#vrchat-general-2
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im a lot more lax with my settings tbh
I always have my shield set to none
Monty the issue is, a lot of people i encounter don't think that way, will harass me
but anyway, i never have them on unless i want a descent convo to last a while. other than that im vanilla
and because i'm a really shy person, i find it hard to do anything other than blank and just stop playing vrchat
and havent gotten crashed unless i specificslly join my one friend who hangs out with people that have bad avatafs
the safe spot is to only let shaders be visible for users, snd particles for known users
that's why i can't do public lobbies, it's too much stress for me
i love public lobbies
trustedd users are the only ones allowed to have animations, and i have audio disabled across the board unless im not in the box or pug
pubs are the shit
i like mic night, been there quite much to see such wow lately
i get being rlly shy in vrc
It's why I do not go to those things anymore
uhm
i was like that for the first month or so of playing and nobody judges
@queen mango .... your name.....
you can get good with 9/10 people by giving them headpats in front of a .mirror
i just can't, i just can't do public lobbies
people are awful, they call trans women horrible names and trans men
Some things have changed just a few minutes ago.
Even I myself was surprised by it
lol
People just get called shitty names in general, if you find such a person just mute and/or block them
Surely randoms in public can't really know whether you're trans though? Unless specifically brought up?
I'd have thought that's something that would only be mentioned to friends after you trust them.
i literally get called trap even when i say i'm trans, it's not just a 'woopsie they made a mistake'
my vrchat user name is ||you actually thought i would?||
tbh i think vrchat's userbase has a lot of support for lgbtq+ just not a whole lot in public lobbies tho
You put your pronouns in your username?
thats in my experience tho and its a good thing that weve got a lot of good people
Yes, because i get misgendered a lot and it makes me really uncomfortable,,,
Not gonna lie, that's gonna attract a lot of attention.
@civic plume nice username, mine is || you actually thought i would too? ||
what a fail
i saw that lol
the pronouns barely attract attention
No u didn't
darn lloll
Trust me, they do
in fact they barely fucking work, i still get called he/him
Yeah that's what I mean
One friend of mine gets called a trap purely because his VRC name is a female one. Is just the name of his OC, that he built the avatar based on.
and it stressed me out
yes i did 
stresses*
my vrchat name is ||Kindbot (toaster you dipshit)||
VRC discord mod team was like "Hey we noticed you guys give actively assblasted and shit on while working because your name isn't purple, here ya go."
kiera regardless of what you say to people, theres always gonna be people that will say it wrong. you just need to build internal resistance against it

@shy spoke wutt
I like how they had to differentiate between active chat mods and the non-active ones
it's really hard to say 'just ignore them' when you have dysphoria
Guess it's a more accurate rank anyway
Dysphoria is fucking horrible, sometimes i literally can't do normal things like using the bathroom and showering because looking at myself is just, too much
my actual vrchat name is ||my discord wink||

i hate living with it and if i could remove it and live as a cis man i gladly fucking would
@civic plume So your vrchat name is "my discord wink"? what a long name
lol and thats why i did not directly say it
πΆ

@desert stratus "you can get good with 9/10 people by giving them headpats in front of a .mirror"
Well... you're not wrong. π

I did that and that person blocked me
well it is wise to ask for headpats first
yes
assk for consent that is
it is very wise ||i prefer forced||
Yeah I guess touching someone in VR without asking is almost as invasive as IRL.
pico ur coming along too
meh, I just pat
so... "hey random person in front of a mirror, Can i pat you?"
I feel that's surely a bit too much. Asking consent to headpat. ^ ^;
yeah i agree letor ||lol its a virtual 3d space are you crazy XD||
some people rlly do get bothered by it
especially those sensitive to pphantom touch
Almost goes beyond politeness, and instead becomes creepy and paranoid.
i can understand why
I don't think so. "hey, want headpats?"
If someone doesn't like it, it should be obvious enough and you go from there. It's hardly a traumatising event.
Not sheepishly asking to do it like it's weird. Just act like it's normal, because it pretty much is normal to give/get headpats on VRC.
i can hear pigeons making weird noises
I've never asked anyone I've headpat is ok and have only been met with positive feedback in like....2500 or so hours lol
I think it's honestly weirder to ask
Yeah to be honest I haven't ever hated it. If someone did they probably just back away.
i guess my experience is diff then lol
yeah, the only time I see anyone like "don't headpat me!" is when they're memeing
cuz ive had a handful of people who were like "aaaa" when i pat them
Just begins to feel a bit like humanity has become far too scared of itself these days. Human contact is a natural and timeless part of communication itself.
I mean, like Mic said it's about reading the room too.
these pigeons are getting loud
good point
i think there is several
Pidgeons make bad pets. π
I generally back away from headpats, it's just a little annoying when I'm in a menu and have to close it because someone tries to headpat me
At least if they aren't in cages.
Oh definitely, read the situation. If you're awkward or have trouble reading social situations then it probably is better to ask
My avatar isn't as short as most so I don't get headpats any more lol
I'm currently converting a bunch of old swf files from my site to MP4... (wish me luck with this rando software).
Kind-of want to play VRC though. Might try anyway. CPU don't hate me.
I get headpats bc I beg
hahah, everyone knows that every cpu hates our absolutely glorious 1-core game
Oh no... it's playing each swf over the VR headset. I'm getting 2000s memes piped into my brain D:
One of my friends has complained about that too Mic. Their avatar is taller than most and so rarely gets any. :v
this si why its important to invest in some loli avatars!
They keep saying they need a loli alternative of their avatar to use occasionally.
and for new users reading this, as a rule of thumb most avatars are 5'
plan accoddingly
https://puu.sh/CZ88i/e7c994ee52.png like this is my old height on the left vs my recent one RIP
My avatar is like 4"7
headpats Ash
YAY
headpats everyone in the server
Im gonna repost i guess uh
would anyone like to hang out with me? probably in a private lobby cause i don't really like hanging out around too many people
I have smaller people try and give me headpats on occasion
Apparently animal ears or looking "cute" can increase the likelihood lol
having a onesie on ur avatar is instant headpats
I will never turn down headpats
literally as soon as u join a lobby the hands start flying towards ur hand so quickly the air offset by their speed starts fusing with the hand and tears off ur face with an explosive force
its great, so pls use onesies and cat ears and short avatars
Although I guess I'm still kinda short, I'm the size of a regular TDA model
... th...that sounds terrifying
also yayyy headpats >u<
I have an avatar that meets all those criteria but the face color is very off
Wish I had a better texture for it or used a better head
Most people don't have permission to touch me anyway
A unique issue I have in the game, is being unable to distinguish nose boops and eye pokes before it's too late. >_>;
I'm 6'3 IRL so I reaaaally appreciate the smol catgirl avatars
For reasons related to my pfp.
hehe squishy a cute problem
Same, I'm like 6'5 and it's nice to feel small for a change
Do you have a cyclops character?
π
aww the squid-cat shirt too
has anyone found out what the hell "heat" means yet
heat in what context?
On your world page now, theres a "Heat" rating
i havent heard anyone talk about hheat in vrc in a unique way
But noone seems to know what it means or what its out of
ohh, iirc i think it was a measure for how much content u could have in a world
for performance sake
My old internet alias since forever, up until joining VRC, has been Squid. So the hoodie was a small reference to that.
Heat is based on your world's carbon emissions 
n0

Ah! I just watched a stream I did where someone heatpatted my character and I couldn't help but make a squeak out loud. >o<
I was assuming that "Heat" is how active the world is.
Since that's a core mechanic of the community labs.
There's Box Avoid Game, Deathrun, Murder, Werewolf/Mafia, Battle Discs, Steel N' Gold, and Capture the Flag.
the mcdonalds map
Those are all game worlds
deathrun will come from counter strike source forever in my heart
On a side note, there's VRChat Times Square, Lakuza's Luxerion World, Pan Diman's Virtual Week-ality (weekly VR news updates), and Blue-kun's Avatar World
I agree to that
Same.. I love Deathrun, even if I dunno how to play it, hah.
Fun game to play: Go to VRChat Times Square, see if you can find me, Afro and the other girl.
(spoiler: it's easy. So easy. Oh my god)
us
HAPPY NOW
Death run is okay

Hoi Im New to the game moind teachen me?
Harder game..go to times square and find me :D
Same
(desktop users)
we stack in world "overwind" because we can't bring-up the menu
is there any way to spawn a portal so we can get out of there instead of pressing alt+f4
please help us
hardest game, go to times square and find me
Impossible game, find me in VRChat
You'd be hard pressed to find me in a world that isn't highly populated
Let there be... green!
Feels a lot easier to look at right now! 
The purple will rise again
That'll come soon. For now, just enjoy the greeneries.
NANI?!
On the plus side if you're looking at discord in VR (most of) you'll see us in slightly higher resolution thanks to the pentile subpixel arrangement.
green good color
I prefer blue but as long as you're happy
The switch to green means that Jamie is now the head mod right? 
I need friends... can anyone assist in my journey to find friends?
tomorrow when im ive
im diggin the color change

friend me on disord snd we can go on a vrc friend seeking adventure
Who knows?
Thank you apple
By the way, aside from Leeroy, we didn't have another loli as a moderator

Jamie.. whenever he switches to his loli avatar
I'm not full time. So i don't really count
I've been a fulltime loli since October 7th 2017

Traps tho..
did someone say traps? π
Carry on
Heck me and 2 other buddies made the first loli group in VRC
And were still going strong today
I remember you guys had a flag at TWitchCon
π π
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I remember being right next to the peeps when they got that group photo with the flag taken
I stepped out since I was barely active in the community at the time
And it would have been awkward
still tho, neat
I'm a 17 year old kid
The yikes would have been kinda insane
besides, I knew noone there 
In fact, first time even hearing about Kinetic was thanks to TwitchCon
Met them IRL before I even knew who they were online
@vocal shard wouldnt have been a yikes your only a year younger or same age as Rad
Also I'll be going this year again if u are going
Yea for sure...I'll have the flag again this year and majority of the lolisquad is coming this year
screw you kuro, i'm going baby
Neat o, neat o, i'll contact you closer to TC's date then
@vocal shard for sure man
Go for it
thanks for sending
Ayoooo
hi

Yo, Game doesnt launch for someone else too? When I open it its just stuck on 0 procent
Have you made sure your connection isn't being slowed down by other people using YouTube or background downloads?
the heck is up with logging on to friend requests from randos π€
why would someone go through the trouble of searching me to add lol
Maybe people recognise you? π
LOL actually now that i look at who it is here, definitely recognized for something 
I searched you to add.. 

But you're someone I've had positive interaction with π
Ok, now this is wholesome
ok
now this is epic
That was fun. I got to see a friend I haven't see in a long time and we watched AMVs together in VRChat. He scolded me for not getting an Oculus yet. π
Awesome. It's really cool the different ways we can hang out in vrchat
lol that time i was testing if my video player worked and i put your video in
Yeah, lol. I was facing the other way going through my menu, and then heard my intro start. Lol
does the link for guntersuniverse bring anyone else to a weird Russian site?
What link and where did you find it?
the one in events http://guntersuniverse.com/
Weird, I'll notify the guys about this
nice.
or he's been in cahoots the entire time π€
Cool, Gunter is aware of it now, so hopefully it will be fixed soon! π π
Goddamn loli avatars.
They've had too many undergarment pics..
i wonder when they decide to fix the social list being so utterly slow to update.
i literally just saw 2 people doing "it" 1 anime girl and another anime girl, and lag crashed me, this might be the best crash out of 4821 crashes i had so far this week
i wish vrchat available on oculsu go and quest later down the line, no matter how poor the graphic will be. i really love vrchat
palying vrchat on pimax5x is amazing
no idea where else to put this... Does anyone else have an rtx 2080 ti and get the most garbage tier performance in vrchat? ( in vr )
i use 970 with pimax5k, all good as long as using deafult setting and not go over the top. but some room indeed stutter
i mean considering vrchat mainly uses ur cpu..... @glass yacht the 2080 wont give u much better performance
207X+ drivers are still in their infancy. :D
ok so... its the cpu? its a 32 core gen 2 threadripper
Idk how optimized vrc is for multiple cores
it base on the programmer to make better performance for vrchat
need somthing better then dyamic bones for vrchat
Uses like 4 cores at the maximum, and pins one core from memory.
So need higher overclocks. Which a threadripper doesn't really do well.
Does anyone have any clue what "flame" is?
Not the one that's against the rules, anywhere.
Flame as in the popularity symbol of a map?
Yeah.
Ah.. It determines how popular or "hot" a world is in terms of average visitors per day
At least I believe so..
Okay... Doesn't add up since today's count was literally 0.
I kinda watched and refreshed... Unless I've been missing those join-and-(promptly)-leave-ers.
Maybe someone else can explain this better than me. I haven't gotten into the latest update of VRChat yet.
Well, we're as cluesless as each other.

Bleh...
hey guys Reaper_wolfy is streaming right now he needs 1 more follower for 50 please help him out
maybe they'll release some info that lets us know, it'll probably be a documentation thing if it happens
I wonder who's doing the documentation...?
is it just me or is Fullbody broken?
What's wrong with it?
The trackers still work, but the camera is being put in the wrong place, and the Ik seems to take over the chest or spine.
it happened after the update
mhh weird
why the notification from announcements wont go off? i checked all the messages
also there is no other notify to "mark as read" how it usualy is...
try to go back and forth between announcements and a random channel
hello
Hi
can i ask questions about Mixamo here?
do you know if they have a discord or telegram channel?
I think they have a channel related to that but im not sure Β¨
hi
so where can i find out?
should be
yo there is some dude telling his friends to all report me because he thinks i use some kind of client to teleport props too him even tho i just joined the world lol
now i got arnd 20 reports he says π
good motive
except it isn't 
the reports wont matter since at bset they'll investigate and, assuming youre tellnig the truth, nothing will happen lol
people seem to think reports = ban, they still double check stuff
trusted user looks good on you when you've made multiple worlds and avatars. other than that its useless, maybe a rank for people who bust their balls to make content for the community idk 
basically ^
they didnt fix the mouse being kidnapped btw, if im in discord whilst vrc is loading it steals my mouse still. idk if thats the game or windows or something else, either way if its out of the devs control idc if it is someone ping me and tell me to make another canny or whatever coz its super annoying u kno 
it always does that and im pretty sure its a mix of the game as well as windows usually for me once im in a world i just open my menu select avatar or friends list then i can move my mouse over to my second monitor without my mouse accidently moving me arounf in VRC
idk. they should properly address it and see if they can reduce or fix the issue
They said it was a lot less not that it was fine if I recall right
its not really that big of a problem atm
i dont feel a change at all except for when im in vr i dont have to constantly press the windows key to move mouse in vr
based off others things they could be working on or are currently working on this i would thing would be near the bottom of the to do list
The new sound stuff they are working on
Gonna be hype if they can get it right
i think they should start sorting their servers out before adding anything else big like community labs.. just my opinion
yeah same. im quite excited for that
Also server devs =/= game Dev
Will it bring the old Doppler sounds back, though?
im always in for the realism side of gaming and not so much performance but when it comes to servers it makes me dry 
I loved that back before Unity 2017.4
@queen mango Doppler?
Doppler effect.. sounds get distorted the nearer or farther you go to or away from an audio source
ohh
Nearer = higher frequency
Farther = lower frequency
idk what use of that is, made enough worlds and with enough sounds to not know what to use it for
Ow yes, but you can also actually hear where people are. Sounds can be properly mixed now with 2017
bring back cross-character touching π
lol wot
For a time, you could touch other people's dynamic bones that were set up for touching if you set up your avatar to be able to
Only locally though
oh i remember that mic, didn't know that got washed away
Wasn't it the person touching and the person being touched could see it? π€
yeah that's the only reason it isn't on literally every avatar any more lol
i remember you could go desktop but with a hmd on and use keybaord and mouse to move around whilst controllers were charging.. now it doesnt only if the first menu is open you can move with mouse
So far I have seen it was only the person touching
oh i guess it was just the new way he was working on that others can see https://twitter.com/TheKareeda/status/1102730202889768960
;-; i just wish they'd bring it back, it was neat but some bug messed it up supposedly?
So far the one way it's visible to everyone (and synced perfectly) is if you're using an object to touch, but hopefully it's getting there
They broke either hinge joints or character joints
You can also use seats to accomplish the same thing by the way
But it requires careful setups on both ends
Not sure who makes the Youtube plugin on VRchat worlds, but you know what would be a good feature?
The ability to block or warn you when a video marked as 18+ has been put into the playlist.
It uses yt there public and only way to do it api
So unless YT adds it themselves for off website video showing. They can't do it.
I believe the Youtube functionality is handled by VRChat itself, so I'd recommend that if you want to suggest features relating to it, that you should make a post about it on the canny, which is where they look for feedback: https://vrchat.canny.io/
Ah thanks.
They do fully use it themselves? Isn't that against YouTube's TOS?
Looks like some people have suggested it anyway
Suppose that means that the canny is working atleast, helps get suggestions like that in one place and the interest in them properly shown, always a good idea to upvote features and bugs you bump into even if they're already posted.
Good idea
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Iβm thinking of getting a vr set for my birthday tomorrow and Iβm either gonna get the oculus go or windows mixed reality, ik the windows mixed reality works in vrchat but does the oculus go also work in vrchat ? Really curious if it does bc if so Iβll just get the oculus go
Oculus go won't work
go for WMR, the Go is a mobile headset.
Or well not good at al
aight thanks for telling me
Oculus Go would not work with VRChat, or any other PC VR titles
Do you have a PC capable of VR too? @vocal shard
Yes I do and I just realised that the oculus go is a mobile vr set lmao
@cold saddle Gonna have to go check that out sometime. Finding a well made beautiful world is getting harder and harder, but on the other side it makes it so much sweeter when you do find one.
I can recommend Mountain Forest for the same reasons. Beautiful, good perf considering its size and no mirror.
might try go for the lenovo set those that also work In vrchat
Huhuh
Sorry for going on and on about just trying to get the right one
Any WMR headset will work with VRChat since they have to run it through steamVR anyway
Oh wow, nice
ok
yeah the Lenovo is mixed reality for windows 10 so Iβm guessing it will work then
@cold saddle That's some nice detail.
Is that a VRC world?
I need to get gud.
I want to keep my overall world size tiny but have decent detail. Working now on optimizing my UV mapping, etc.
One of the suggestions on the world submission page is to have mirrors start as off.
I didn't do that with mine but it's pretty high performing anyway I think...
Yeah, don't have an enabled mirror at and/or near the spawn.
Nobody likes a rough landing that continues to be bumpy
Does the mirror being near the spawn cause performance issues?
I mean, I violated both of those. haha vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_2105eb08-75f6-41c9-90b8-1d04040552b0
Well it makes it so you have a shit framerate the instant you drop in
Well you don't just load in the spawn once but twice thanks to the mirror
Oh neat. Good to know. π
Blue-kun's home drops you right in front of a mirror, though
Wouldn't be too bad when in private
My whole home world is < 50MB. It used to be only 18MB but I added some textures that are probably too big.
Yeah, that's the worst thing about mirrors. Put one in and nobody goes any further than it.
Should make it so you can only enable a mirror if you have been in the room for 10 minutes
Even better, make it so the mirror auto-disables after 2 minutes and is at least 1.3 meters above ground level.
Talk for 10 minutes and then you can just stare at yourself as a reward
And the enable button is on the far side of the room
Also this slowmode is slightly annoying man..
There are a fair bit out there
They just aren't popular for long. No one wants to chill and talk in a really big world where it's hard to find someone
unless u make like some grabpass magic prob not
I mean, I had a pretty fun/pure experience on someone's world that was a Warcraft 3 level with 2 or 3 Warcraft 3 avatars but many other ones and a mirror and we just had fun trying them all out and talking about the features.
Well people are anti social in this game.
And plenty of people don't enjoy using there voice
use hand
^that too. My voice is a huge downer for me but I just go with it.
It's almost like if you try to put yourself in a slightly challenging situation you can steadily get over your anxieties over time.
OMG... that avatar world, I just kept gasping as I found out new tricks to them. It was a cute place.
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@rough pulsar Something like that is called exposure therapy and its a real strategy for traumatic experiences too. But forcing others into those experiences does the opposite. It has to be in a bit of a controlled environment, so the person feels like they are gaining more control rather than losing it.
(off topic but I think it's interesting)
@rough pulsar tell that to the anti social people.
It also does not help that in public world there are plenty of cunts who block out people from there conversations and even bully users for there voices.
Or plain hating humanity
@vocal shard thanks...but it was a glitch...it dissappeared after a while...
If anything VR is the perfect environment for exposure therapy (or related behaviours) because if you get to the point where you have to stop you can bail out instantly and easily.
not liek entire comunity is liek dat
Elire that's a natural feeling sometimes. Humans are complicated and messy. Hard to deal with.
But yeah I get what you mean @heavy dawn
It's also a symptom of really advanced loneliness.
@rough pulsar I think you're right in some ways.
Literally his fans, as in his case fan noise over the open mic

π€£
Most annoying part of streamers is there ego* once they are growing
And there die hard community white knighting them.
I don't mind being around a streamer unless his fanbase is there.
gona lok at banjo tooie walkthru >3>
You can do it Wunder!
idk wat 2 do no moar
is also dope
gaem do me a confoos
And Tosha is trap-man?
I've been stuck on a puzzle in a particular world, and I have the feeling if I tell someone where I'm stuck I'm going to get laughed at because the solution is obvious and I've just overlooked it
oof
Alright so theres a hacker in a murder lobby.
cool
I got blue screened today.
ugh.
o
Report him #moderation-reports
May I say the name?
Ah.
doesnt matter we don't hav any proof nor rlly care
so not like we also gona report em
No perms
....
Read the channel
obv u don't hav perm did u even read the posts
@ember arch Whoever you chatted with last will be in your logs. I think there's info on how to get that in #moderation-reports
No idea where to ask this but is there a way to add a NPC to an avatar that follows you by foot (so not the floating thing with joint bones)
animations and floating bone prob closest u can get
unless u like use a rope and a rigidbody
a follow script is allowed in worlds right... having the npc follow the player (only locally)
Yeah, standard assets can be used
You can use the character controller scripts etc
was thinking of having Rex from xenoblade Chronicles 2 as an avatar , using a emote toggle spawn in Pyra that follows me like another character (so walking along)
found a video about setting up NPC follow but that is using C#
Oh, on an avatar
Yeah you can't do that very easily if at all
I remember doing it in the days of playmaker though lol
lol as a world avatar/object i first need to make a world
last time i uploaded one as a tryout the textures where flashing and some shaders were not working in-game
and that was just a MMD world
as in ... supposed to be used in MMD
if anyone want to meet up, my VRchat name is CammyMoon
It would be cool if you could bake a nav mesh and use navmeshagent in VRC worlds. Is that possible?
Yes
Sweet! So you could have an NPC come up to you and give info or whatever.
Or make a zombie map where zombies follow the characters around.
Yeah
Or like, have a map where you're fighting off waves of monsters in a tower. π
arent following enemies already used in some worlds?
it already exists, yes
I'm a bit of a noob. I haven't seen many worlds with use of features other than simple click buttons.
I guess everyone assumes if it's a Unity feature that isn't replicated in the official VRC SDK then it probably won't work.
hmmm wonder if you use the spawnable worldobject prefab and have it trigger the navmesh thing
The navmeshagent is just a component you can add to any Unity object. It's pretty nice! There's a tutorial for using it on the Unity3D site where you build a game with zombie toys all coming to attack you.
So you would just add navmeshagent to your prefab and set your world up to have a baked nav mesh so the prefab knows where it can / can't walk.
(at least I assume that's how it works in VRC. It might require some tricks to work.)
yea .. i know one person that was making a zombie map spend months on the A.I system alone
Whoa... well yeah you might need to code extra if you want them to avoid certain things/be smarter.
Oh yeah you obviously have to have a target for the NMA or it won't walk anywhere. π
Coding something is easy. Using shitty Unity components is a pain
With code you'd have defined some bounds. Then just told it to move to a random point by first rotating towards it, and then moving towards it while playing the walking animation
My vrchat isn't updating in oculus
tried restarting the service and even reinstalling the game entirely.
I'm stuck on 2019.1.2
"shitty components" (the actual Unity SDK) β
Wowwwwwwwww
i just got the notification that its updating.
after what, like 5 hours?
I hate oculus sometimes...
The unity SDK as well as Unity itself
You're meant to use code to interact with them, which is why Googling "how to (anything)" will lead you to scripts most of the time
I tried that stupid VRChat soundbank thing, and it just played the first song in it at varying speeds. then I used the Discord search feature and found no evidence that anyone else could get it to work. I will try the Youtube player again I guess, it has gotten some updates since last time I tried it. A shame every sound is loaded on world join. Player-made video prefabs don't seem to have this limitation
Strange. Play on awake is set?
It's the default behaviour I believe. Every dance-music map almost crashes you on join as your computer starts a youtube_dl.exe for every Youtube URL contained in the world.
As for the sound bank thing, I don't recall. I deleted it in frustration
By default, it's even set to activate for "every other player than yourself" or something weird. I changed that and bricked it completely
A VRChat component which can deal with numbers in various ways (track them, maybe do simple math with them, compare them, etc) would make a lot of things easier, but we'll probably need Udon to make advanced worlds possible
I mean, you're talking about VRC components which might have more problems than basic Unity3D functionality.
Not to speak ill of the VRChat devs of course. I just feel limited with these components. I can't make a clock, can't track player locations, can't even replicate the functionality of IF statements. Even if I used unity cubes to represent bits and moved them around, they would likely get out of sync
Well, I will hop on VRChat now. Laters
do i really need to update the SDK to upload new updates for my avatars?
or il just keep the same?
it's generally a good idea to atleast, but not required per say, most of the time.
every time when i did updated something that has to do with unity....at the end the answer was not to make any update.
Unity? Don't update that.
Sdo? Update it.
Your Unity version needs to be version 2017.4.15f1 at the moment, and should currently not be updated unless stated otherwise for VRChat compatibility.
@tacit plank it's annoying because they can't add any components that'll get overridden by Udon because then they'd have to support this garbage legacy component.
so i need to update the SDK for each time when vrchat gets an update or almost all the time...
They will say when you need to update it. It isn't every update but close to all.
so...il update the sdk or not?
Right now yes
You should always update the SDK when a new one is released.
You don't need to. But it is reccomended.
For instance, my old unity project has an excessive amount of stuff in it and importing a new sdk would take forever. So i just keep it on the old one.
once a more crucial update is out, then i update it.
I find it kind-of baffling why Unity3D just DIES once you load the VRC SDK.
Like scrolling becomes an issue, etc. On 4Ghz?!
Yeah I don't update my SDK every time either but I also understand that if something goes wrong or breaks that's my fault for not updating.
@heavy dawn If you look at the code for the sdk, you will understand why something like scrolling is a issue.
I started even looking into the directories and there's a lot there. Yeah probably a lot going on in the SDK too.
I bet a lot of it could be threaded workloads.
... but isn't for sake of simplicity.
Uhh. Someone told me there was a way to prevent hair going into your forehead by locking a certain axis. i forgot how to do that. does someone know

never used that before but i wanna try
Oh i figured it out. You gotta freeze the Z axis.
Depends on the rotation of the bone but yeah.
@heavy dawn the biggest problem is just having the pipeline manager with the blueprint expanded
yea a certain frozen axis will make the hair look weird
That makes unity lag like hell
I don't know if I have ever done that. I have barely scratched the surface of the SDK. Oh you mean the tiny little component with an avatar ID?
Yes
Jeeze if I shrink that would it make it responsive? !!!!??!?!?! whoa....
Its like a lagswitch
So much of this program is just :foreheadsmack:
@heavy dawn hmmm. I got ear bones on a head. But if i put a dynamic bone on each of them they don't move 
if i take the head and exclude everything else they move as if they are not attached
Make a root bone

And also weight paint the tips of the ears to the head bone so they dont detach
Uh base i mean, not tips*
The lowest parts
^^^ the knowledge
i hope i don't have to do everything from the start in unity after i did that in blender
@strange wagon not if you overwrite the fbx
Look at you - still helping people π
Disable your dynmic bone components before you overwrite
so root bone. i assume i just create bones at the base of the ear and that's it?
yee
Cats has a root bone tool
π
Yea
I have to block unity from accessing the internet and then it doesn't lag
Thats cause the pipeline manager constantly makes requests
EarL EarL Earl... he got TRUCKS (an ad from a city I used to live in)
only the left ear is in there though
@strange wagon it shows 2 bones
I disables the pipeline manager and it still lags so i just block the entire thing until i need to upload
why does it say EarL only 
Because it takes bones that are named --L and --R
Wild... I guess it's probably blocking on network transfer. That's like... dotnet 101. Always do network or non ui tasks in a thread.
And then just shows one of the groups
oh yea both are in there now
c:
Now go in unity, disable the dynbone scripts, overwrite the fbx
Reenable dynbone and change root bone to the new ear root
i just open my vr today and wanted to play vrchat and I go to oculus and start it up like I always have since oculus came out with it and no matter what I crash at the vrc loading screen... anyone that can help??
hey nice 
Open vrc on steam
same here 
Some people have tons of problems with steam vr some with the oculus client
@gentle fossil if you use the oculus client try steam vr, if you use steam vr try the oculus client. Also what are the specs of your system?
Like your cpu ram and gpu
i just tryed steam vr, but as shit as steam vr is it lags and it keeps coming with freaking pop ups
kind odd, when i use my clear cache script it runs and crashes instantly, restarting it gets stuck in a loading screen or crash (vrc loading screen rotating logo), the only way to get out of that loading loop is by clearing and it repeats.
But it works with steam vr?
yer
I want to know your specs
oh my thanks for saying that, im actually not intellegent
Very possible that if its not running with the oculus client qnd poorly with steam vr your system cant handle it
i run an i5, 16gb ram, 1tb hdd 256ssd and 1060 max Q
why?
@lost agate Its np, it should work when you do it ingame but if not itll be better out of game anyway
Because your system may not be able to run vr @gentle fossil
That's probably a good enough system. π€·
the script i wrote shuts down VRC before it runs, i was being sarcastic
That system is good nuff
I wass thinking that too but.. the "max q?"
i5 might be the worst part if it's low clock speed.
stop saying stuff you do t know about Ash
Seeing as VRC seems to pin just one thread.
Isnt the max Q suppos to bee liie mega shit
Wym stuff I dunno I know that some systems cant handle vr
Never said yours couldnt just that itd be possible silly
i have bin running vrchat on oculus since it came to oculus and before that on steam, for over 1.5 years
my specs are:
I7 6700K @ 4.6Ghrz
GTX 970 HOF
42GB DDR4 @ 3.1Grz
Samsung 970 SSD
i run vrchat with 90 frames like almost 24/7 but it just won't start up that's the problem dude...
This is a laptop isnt it?
Sometimes I think being stuck with DDR3 RAM might be why I get performance issues despite having a 4Ghz clock speed.
Why is you ssd better than your gpu
yes
I run vrchat on 90ftames with a 1050, you have to realize vr is basically playing the game twice
@dark narwhal SSDs have gone on sale for ultra cheap a lot in the past few years.
its not, you just dont know Galax HOF lmao
In fact, SATA SSDs are ultra cheap right now.
Ah... yeah could be thermal throttling issues too.
Not even gonna ask about 42 ram
the 1060 max Q is pretty good it's the 3 Gb model and I run all vr games... it just won't start op today after the update for vrchat yesterday..
Yes it is Tobias. Its the same as the game running twice and if you dont believe me you can ask either Sai or Kairos, the two people who know tons about pcs and told me this
i make maps and love lighting that tends to be idiotic with how much ram it uses during baking
I want 99gb ram
The fact this laptop can run vr in its own is outstanding, means its one od the few thats not dumb with its hdmi placement
Mhhh light the killer of frames and spinner of fans
@covert linden fucking listen to me for fuck sake!!!!! I don't have lag problems!!!!!!! it just dont want to start VRCHAT!!!!!! AND ONLY TODAY!!!!!! I PLAYED IT YERSTERDAY ALL DAY!!!!!!!!
Its ok just play vr in a pitch dark map
anyhow this is not related to crashing on startup, this is related to software as it wouldn't run if i cleared cache
You needa chill lol you said literally 5 minutes ago steam vr lags you
@lost agate vrchat wont run when you cleared your cache?
it not like lag lag
Hmm, Steam VR runs pretty fast for me.
It crashes uppon entry to the laoding screen aka spinning vrc icon
Steam vr runs fast for all my friends
Define fast
when i then start again it gets stuck in that screen instead
@dark narwhal the sexy 11fps
thus its a software issue not a hardware one
i just hate that when someone does something in vrchat and your frames drop like 5 ore so, steam vr goes in loading screen and it kiss me off oculus doesn't do that....
Yea real fast u right
But yeah the crashing issue isn't likely to be performance related unless the Oculus would just not start running if you can't push enough frames. Is that the case?
@lost agate you mightve deleted more than just the cache and it corrupted files maybe?
Because deleting the cache shouldnt break the game
thanks See @covert linden.... @lost agate he gets it
@gentle fossil go into your steam VR settings in desktop and set scaling to a lower percentage
Tobias Q yeah I get that if my frames go too low but that hasn't happened for a while. Not unless someone uses a crash script.
The fun of Vive
@gentle fossil theyre talking about their own problems bro
Oculus has this feature set to automatic, steam just fails to understand this is usefull
thanks @lost agate finally someone that can help...
Yours should have nothig to do with cache
I put shader files in my cache folder so im always looking good
I put water in my computer so it cools better
So did Tobias Q clear cache? Yeah that would have been my first thought.
adn then i use oil and ignite it so it runs so fast its on fire
wait @lost agate it's not steam vr I have problems with... it's oculus that won't start vrchat
I dont think she did
i know, but that way Steam gets more rames
Thats truee
I like my pc running smooth so i use spray butter on the gpu
Oooh so thats the secret?
true π€
clearly there is a issue thats not up to us to resolve atm, all you can do is report the issue and wait for a fix
See im on a laptop, so I justpour baby oil into the ports
i use thermal paste underneeth my CPU in the socket so it connects better to the motherboard
i hot glued an intel to a threadripper and its still worthless
Darn thats ass
See I hhad an intel celeron and I read they coudnt run vr so I hotglued one od those new vr cords with the usbc to it
I got 500fps after thhat i highly reccomend it
"pour baby oil on" You know... you joke but that actually might help. Just fill the whole damn laptop with mineral oil and it'd have no thermal problems. It'd be all goopy though and any labels inside would lift off.
It would also weigh a metric shit ton
Woudnt it also break everyrhing insid
No.
Mineral oil is non conductive and people use it to build PCs that don't need other cooling.
Id do it and test it if I had a laptop id risk losig
YOu jsut shove a motherboard in a fish tank full of mineral oil and call it a day. It's SO MESSY though.
It's cool looking. The oil is thick so fans run slower and such.
That sounds awesome
The oil tends to break down some plastics and stuff so it's not totally harmless.
Over a long period of time you might have some stuff just fall apart if it's made of the wrong stuff.
I'd have to look it up, I don't know what it's incompatible with.
LOL
I use it in my microwave
I always thought it would be a fun thing to try but you need: fish tank, enough mineral oil to suspend hardware, hardware you don't really care about, tolerance for having oil EVERYWHERE if you have to take something out.
Youd look hilariou
Imagine having touch screen
touches your screen
Actually I hate that a lot. At work if someone comes and smudges my monitor trying to show me something like... HANDS OFF MAN!
You wanna keep that finger? π€£
Ew people used to poke my laptop screen and was like "oh lame its not touchscreen"
Like no fucking duh
Touch screens tend to have that layer that reduces the appearance of fingerprint oil.
Ive never wanted a touchscreen nor owned one
I have one of those Windows 10 atom tablets that's really underpowered. I wanted to draw on it but with 2GB of RAM and a 1.4Ghz quad core it tends to be useless even at that.
They are honestly really nice for specific cases.
ew get that ramoutta here
2GB works... Ok kind of but not smooth enough for something interactive like painting.
I'm amazed it can run stock windows 10...
Well. Depending how good you are with tech you can load a lite version of Windows into it. Or just disable specific things on the normal windows 10 version to make it atleast worthy of a Google/YouTube machine.
If you have more RAM Windows since Vista have always used extra RAM for caching.
It already started lol, people are using community labs to upload laggy avatars
And the report system is probably still not functional
Rokk was it you who called it? Somebody called it. Everyone was thinking it.
Donβt forget to thermal paste your ram and usb slots to keep them cool ππ
What do you mean arctic silver is conducitve? It's only made of metal and ceramic! π
Hey there
Hi =**=

Ello
Hi
Hello there
can anyone join?
so when i login all i see is 0.00% and then nothing.. it's not loading me into any world at all D:
could it be that your pc is out of space and u need to clear cache @whole flare
it's not that it can't download it. it's that there's nothing downloading. i normally load into the box. that world is less then 1mb. and my drive has at least 100gb left
hmm not sure. I would try exiting the game clearing the cache and restarting it that may help
nuked my cache. fingers crossed ;3;
What is your internet speed and general ping?
40Mb/s and usually my ping is no higher then 100 or so
Very odd indeed
log is full of messages like this 2019.03.13 22:25:25 Log - [VRCFlowManagerVRC] Preparation has taken 20 seconds, progress is 0%, loader state is PreparingAssets 2019.03.13 22:25:35 Log - [VRCFlowManagerVRC] Preparation has taken 30 seconds, progress is 0%, loader state is PreparingAssets 2019.03.13 22:25:45 Log - [VRCFlowManagerVRC] Preparation has taken 40 seconds, progress is 0%, loader state is PreparingAssets
http://prntscr.com/mxikup this is litterally all i'm seeing
i've restarted my pc. rebooted all the networking hardware in my home. cleared my cache. guess i'll try reinstalling. even tho i litterally played without issue last night
π€ wait a minute or two it may load. That may be the bug I ran into in beta.
why does this have to happen the one day it's important i get online ;A;! (best friend is celebrating his bday in vrc today)
yes
henlo?
Works just as normal as always for me 
does new update 4 window still oof games
cuz gota restart pc but cant restart w/o updating
a
just keeps on crashing when trying to start it up
and if it doesent crash i get an infinite loadingscreen
have you tried the steps provided in #vrchat-support ?
interesting 
ill install it on steam now even tho its gonna ru like shit
Is there an easy way to change your username, or do I need to go thru a bunch stuff in order to do that?
I recently finally found a name to go by online in general and I want to change to it, but I don't want to leave friends behind, haha.
Yeet, thanks.
Same issue as penelope
Just be sure as you can't change it again for a while ;p
tried all stuff in #vrchat-support already I assume? If so try launching the game from the website and see if that changes anything.
I guess it can also be things related to Oculus (again) being down/struggling earlier today.
oof it wont let me update oculus or kinect
Yea it's about Oculus (and Facebook) being down then for users over the world.
So guess you gotta wait untill they solve there stuff
wait wat
All Facebook services are down
No idea
I don't work for them
lol
Yeah my group of friends IRL use Messenger for chat and the images were broken and even text at one point.
hi
wakes up to a nightmare
oh hell no
Anyone who still has the free $15 from Oculus, don't forget to spend that today! It expires today!
Oh wait, it really expires today? I should probably find something appealing to buy it with then!
I had no idea, thanks Mimi
bish wat
@vast tulip they want my mom credit card information before buying so Iβm going to have to pass 
can someone say to me the code to the secret room ?
Hey peeps
hi guys
new here,anybody ever use voice chat?
I don't think there is a voice chat channel here.
I haven't seen one
Also, isn't VRChat technically one, in addition to being able to look at other avatars?
add search function for community lab please so makes easier to find certain worlds n maybe tags aka horror
hi
Any RWBY VR people here?
Last time I checked, there were a few of them RWBY fans in VRChat. I dunno where they are now
They're everywhere
I saw someone with the name Ruby Rose and using an avatar from the show.
Pretty neato
yeah i see alot of RWBY fans
Nice person iirc
ingame atleast
Yeah. I've also seen a lot of mute people. I mean, I'm one of em (new to vrchat) and I just find it curious.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34512645? Hmm... serious overclock and still just "ok"
I guess it's 2x the minimum spec for VR according to 3DMark
Sometimes I'm mute, sometimes I have a mic. Depends on whether or not I'm on VR or desktop.
Sometimes I get lazy.
Wonder if plenty of girls don't talk cause of harrasment issues.
I'd all but guarantee it
It's a given I guess.
The Internet is a cesspit full of creeps and losers
Word
Unfortunately, that's the stigma we're forced to live with. Not to mention the gaming community.
I know a couple like that. They only talk when with close friends
It's for the best. Harrasment isn't an ok thing.
No, it isn't.
I don't use a mic for that reason.
I don't really blame anyone for not wanting to talk.
I don't mind being mute. I like expressing myself with the avatar.
I'm very emotive
anyone know the code for the classified avatars world?
Classified?
Luckily it seems like being mute is more accepted now. I stopped being a mute because i used to get cornerd and teased for being mute. That's why i started talking.
I think expressive mutes are really fun to be around though
I like little mute anime girls. Like the really tiny ones. They're adorable.
Mhmm
I saw one of those little tiny avatars running around between the legs of other female avatars and looking up.
Maybe talking to people that like a subject as much as you would let the talk flow easier.
I tried to report the little bastard but he left before I got the chance
It's very annoying.
Dang creeps
are worlds loading slow for anyone
it didnt work ;-;
Avatars weren't loading for me yesterday. But it turns out i had a war thunder update in the background.
So I deleted the game since I never play it.
You know on the one hand I wish I could pick up other avatars. But on the other hand it's probably best I can't do that because if I could, I would. A lot.
I would yeet annoying people across the room.
Yup.
Can't tell you how many times I've seen some teeny little dude running around and thought "I could chuck him 60 yards, guarantee it.."
Of course it could easily be flipped on me, and somebody using one of those GIANT avatars picks me up and tosses me across the map
You've seen them, I know you have
Load into a Pug and it's like the Attack of the Fifty Foot Waifu
Yes. I saw a huge demon trying to caress an afk anime girl. Very weird indeed.
The pug is where I always go
I spend a lot of time in the Pug.
I like the Volt club too, that place is pretty neat
I met a depressed kid in the pug. Like talking to himself a lot in the corner.
The Pug was created by a long term member here- called Owlboy
I stuck with him for an hour to cheer him up. Poor kid.
It's a nice place
The club is loud.
He put a lot of time and heart into it.
The Pug is the kind of bar I'd hang out at IRL
Grab a stool, have a couple beers and chill
The pug is based on a real bar
I'd just go for a glass of wine
I just chuck beers at people
lol
It's amusing
Great Dane for reference.. I believe it's around the Madison area
I love being mute
Every now and then I'll see someone behind the counter trying to stack everything on top of each other
A lot of people do that. Hell I've done it.
Me too. I like this game.
Still a fun time though
I like to just wander from world to world and watch people
I go around head patting everyone
Now and then I'll find a world with games and puzzles and that'll keep me occupied for awhile
You may wanna keep out from the Box though. I heard some bad stuff happens there on a regular basis.. also for the Presentation Room, damn leprechauns
I think I found a couple of guys falling for my cute antics. IDK.
Vrchat is so cool to me. The whole aspect of making friends around the world, and all being able to hang out in the same virtual space. Always feels so cool to me
I found a world called Eye of Newt that has some neat alchemy type stuff going on.. craft recipes, get avatars
Oooh. I would like to check it out.
It's cool. The avatars are nice too, and well-optimized for the most part
I need to find more worlds. Only been to like 15 or less I think.
I like simple avatars without all the extra bells and whistles.
I found a neat world in the community lab with some very cool-looking avatars, but their stats all show red
Oof.
It's an indicator for poor performance
Ohhhh
Really resource-intensive. They can drag people's systems down
Try to avoid using them if you can.
I have two crashes so far from people using avatars with crazy effects. I just block them now.
It's a shame, because I found an avatar there that I REALLY like, but it's a total hog so I can't use it...
I need more ram maybe
Well, there is the safety settings. That allows you to block the avatar, but not the person
How much RAM does your setup have?
I'm fine with just blocking the avatar. I don't like blocking people in general.
8 atm
Passable.
I'm told VRChat is more CPU-heavy than GPU-heavy
I forget my things
I'm not sure how true that is










