vrchat-general-2

[queen mango]

@small wing Umm.. I don't think there's an easy way around that. You still remember the name, yeah?

[small wing]

His name was using foreign characters

[rigid crescent]

What? Because we think harassment is bannable? lol

[small wing]

So nope.

[queen mango]

Oof.

[ornate pawn]

lol

[rigid crescent]

People who do that shit literally don't deserve to play lol

[small wing]

I'm down for the hard way.

Just dont wanna see this guy ever again.

[ornate pawn]

then block him lol

ur such a baby

[sterile drift]

Avatar won't be deleted by moderation, almost never how it goes

[small wing]

I get panic attacks super easily and this encounter wasn't a fun one.

[ornate pawn]

anti block doesnt exist

[sterile drift]

The user will be banned over the avatar

[rigid crescent]

see, if you had reading comprehension, you'd know that he couldn't because the player used foreign characters in their name

[ornate pawn]

if thats true this game is not for u

what??

[rigid crescent]

There's no excuse for harassment. Zero.

[ornate pawn]

u can block any user no matter the name u just click on them

[queen mango]

But th... that name

[rigid crescent]

He couldn't click on them, again, lack of reading comprehension.

[ornate pawn]

social menu

[rigid crescent]

Again, it rendered over the menu, reading comprehension.

[sterile drift]

ScrufflesRuffles

[still lark]

👀

[stone current]

ye all u culd do is use safe mode then block

[rigid crescent]

I know you're running of fumes up there but try to use at least 2 braincells lol

[stone current]

but will prob crash u 4 blocking them

[small wing]

Going to give these output logs a look

[still lark]

You can use that online log parser. lol

[ornate pawn]

and now ur bullying me thats bannable

[stone current]

oof

bulying

[small wing]

Nah, log parsers will get me banned as its a mod of a client.

[still lark]

🤔

[small wing]

I dont do that stuff, against tos.

[still lark]

No wait what

[rigid crescent]

@small wing do CTRL+F search for "onplayerjoined"

[small wing]

Waaiiiit, you didnt mean ip adress

yeah nevermind what i said

[stone current]

??

[sterile drift]

Hold on we're the ones bullying 1231?

[small wing]

I thought he was mentioning an ip logger

[rigid crescent]

could take a bit depending on the size of the log, unless you remember the world you wre in.

[small wing]

which is against the rules, as its a mod

[queen mango]

Y'know I can clock that

[sterile drift]

Eh yea but I never said how to do, I don't even know myself

I just know that it's possible

[rigid crescent]

https://puu.sh/CXiuR/0a3f290748.png Do a search for that term and it shows who was in the world

"OnPlayerJoined"

[ornate pawn]

hmmmm
mmmmm
mmmm
mmmm
mmm

[rigid crescent]

then just find the foreign name and block via website

again, depending how big the log is you might need to first find out the name of the world you were in

[sterile drift]

What's with all the M&Ms

[small wing]

lol doing that shows me i sent the wrong output log

thanks @rigid crescent

[rigid crescent]

yeah you get a few, typically the bigger the log the longer the play session

[sterile drift]

Is that the REA L L Adeon?

[languid beacon]

Disabling animations... do not disable screen space shaders. You can have an avatar that just has the effect always on when near you.

[sterile drift]

Here's what I was saying earlier but deleted

They possibly had it disabled upon awake and turning off custom animations enabled it

[languid beacon]

If you want to disable screenspace, disable shaders specifically

[sterile drift]

Because there's no animation to turn it off.

[languid beacon]

Yeah in which case just disable shaders there’s no workaround for it

[stone current]

i hate most those people that have a "virus" avatar

[languid beacon]

Besides become your friend

[stone current]

like it looks fine

but little things start happening

like filters fading in and menu stops working

then they start bricking ur game and crashing everything and u have no idea wtf happened

[small wing]

@languid beacon My safety settings have animations off, and he was able to trigger the screen space shader with an override just fine.

He didn't have the shader on by default.

And thanks @rigid crescent for the help, found a username and now i can refer to the email i sent with it. 👌 bless

[rigid crescent]

try pasting it into the website search and you might able to block fro mthere too

[small wing]

Was really upset about all this, but now i can feel safe playing again.

thanks.

[languid beacon]

@small wing As I said, you don't need animations to use screenspace shaders.

[small wing]

I saw

[sterile drift]

Roll, read what I said, though at the same time if he activated it remotely, I guess that isn't the case.

[small wing]

Still not my point

[languid beacon]

If you don't want screenspace shaders, block shaders, not animations. blocked Animations won't stop shaders

[small wing]

I know how safety settings work trust me.

[rigid crescent]

🤔 why would they not

always worked for me.

[languid beacon]

Because screenspace shaderes don't need animations

so it doesn't block them

[small wing]

And i have them set just how i want them to be, but my point is that using screenspace shaders to harass users is messed up.

[rigid crescent]

neither do most things, but 99% of the time they USE them

[small wing]

I can see every game object on this guys avatar too, nice.

[stone current]

woag

[small wing]

One of them was named "lilcrash" meaning at least something points out in my email that he was being malicious i guess.

[stone current]

haxxx

yea crashers so stupid

got names like fuckuppeople for crash object

[small wing]

Glad to know i can read output logs somewhat decently i guess.

I never liked code, always had a hard time learning it but my friend who worked as a webdeveloper is encouraging me and making it seem less hard.

but that would be for #general-media if i wanna go in on it

Going to go work on my shader im doin owo, thanks for the help again.

[stone current]

wat

output log not code but shore

o shader nvm

[small wing]

""status":"active","statusDescription":"NO SQUARES","inVRMode":true,"showSocialRank":true"

i would say this is pretty much code imo

[stone current]

no

just a list of things

its JSON so not rly but sure y not

[small wing]

Then shaders aren't code then considering its the exact same layout. :

[stone current]

uh no

shaders use config properties and cgprograms

[small wing]

Enlighten me more

Is a cgprogram the only part considered code?

[stone current]

basicaly

everything else mostly part of "header"

but there passes and subshaders and stuff

[small wing]

.shader seems to be a version of HLSL which is TECHNICALLY a coding language.

Am i right?

[stone current]

ye but JSON has nothing 2 do with coding

unless JSON-like format used in a coding language

[small wing]

It looks similar to shader code though ngl

[stone current]

uwot

200 lines of shader code != "property":value

[small wing]

Pretty close yeah

😉

[stone current]

woof

[small wing]

.json is basically just another language to me

which is still code, i cant find any reason why it isn't. Wish you could tell me so i knew better.

[still lark]

🤔

[small wing]

Your silence pretty much sums up what you think about that. I'm not being cocky by any means, i just need a better explanation if you already said why. I would love to know more.

I never turn down new information.

Again, i'm just learning this stuff.

[stone current]

json just storage

much like .txt is just text

doesnt run or do anything at all

[small wing]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

[stone current]

just a readable way 2 store and print data

[small wing]

So its basically only showing what looks to be code because its archiving it?

[stone current]

[item1,item2,{"prop":value,"oprop":ovalue}]

[still lark]

it's key:value

not prop

[stone current]

"key"*

[small wing]

🤔

man its great to actually be ignorant for once

Last time i felt this overwhelmed and exited to learn something was 10 years ago when i got into audio

[stone current]

well

making shaders while its prety fun

still like not really true coding

its shader programming sure

but its not like u can performantly create an entire videogame

using only shader code

but u can using languages like c++ and etc

[small wing]

Minecraft shader edition though 🤔

[still lark]

wait what, did you just say it's not true coding?

[stone current]

yea but GPUs would need buffering for all that and help from CPU prob

as in its like part of coding

but theres much more to it if u rlly like creativity

[fervent frigate]

Is anyone having issues with worlds not loading. My loading bar is stuck at %0.00

[stone current]

like if all u do is only make shaders ur prob never gonna realize the potential of making neat games

[small wing]

Common issue i have too, just restart.

might fix it.

[stone current]

but its a good start ig

[fervent frigate]

I've tried restarting the game multiple times.

My last resort is to restart my computer.

[small wing]

I'm using amplify for now, until i'm more clear headed to tackle HLSL directly.

[stone current]

yea that visual coding

idk if blender lets u program a shader

[small wing]

@fervent frigate if you go into right click your start menu and click run and type AppData you can find the vrchat folder in there, delete that and try again.

Thats the cache folder.

[stone current]

lets u visually program it but not directly prob

[rigid crescent]

im surprised youre still sober enough to function lol @fervent frigate

[small wing]

Blender has node support yeah.

[fervent frigate]

lol I havent even started drinking yet

[rigid crescent]

you do a cache clear yet?

[stone current]

[small wing]

I like how shader nodes are all the same pretty much.

makes it really inviting to try in other places like octane and shader fourge.

making shaders for vrchat is basically a way for me to break from the norm of avatar and world creation.

it feels "new" and "wild" being immersed in something i know very little about.

[rigid crescent]

might have to do a game restart

[small wing]

Also realized that it has changed the way i think with other things also. Shader making is very interesting when it comes down to how i need to think about getting things done.

[stone current]

it a lot more annoying when ur coding it manualy

[fervent frigate]

I just tried deleting my cache and restarting the game and I am still having loading issues.

[stone current]

i had 2 fix liek 200 things in me PS2 shader

[small wing]

oooof

[stone current]

related 2 lighting, ambient lighting, culling, depth test, and transparency issues

[small wing]

that sounds like a pain

[rigid crescent]

yeah, probably gonna need a PC restart, rip

[stone current]

https://i.gyazo.com/4b0d23d318c6c774874f310b2ab2578a

before i put dynamic bone on it

[small wing]

looks really good

[stone current]

it has rlly good transparency

[small wing]

i like how its one of those types of things where its nostalgic and adds value to it.

[stone current]

bc it doesn hav depth issue like other shaders

yea i added params and stuff

[small wing]

I figured this out in amplify https://gyazo.com/89867fb4cda2bf8a2e393c809f96b58b

[stone current]

so u can change the rounding error, worsen the lighting, and etc

[small wing]

neat little fire shader

i used to use psx retro, but had to edit the code a bit

it was too intense in vr mode

[stone current]

havnt used amplify or shaderforge yet

[small wing]

its really fun

[stone current]

prob make it easier but also prob add overhead cuz visually coded so prob not as optimized

[small wing]

well, for what it does i think its a good trade off for people like me.

[stone current]

yea ik

[small wing]

I just cant push it as hard as you lol

[stone current]

just kinda been having issues when i did manualy

wel i knew liek 5 or so languages before starting shaderlab and hlsl

and i was doing glsl in shadertoy beforehand

i was working on raymarchers that used buffers for movement

[small wing]

Ah, so you get the minor changes in glsl and hlsl confused?

[stone current]

not rlly minor changes

a lot pickier and also not using shaderlab so

[small wing]

🤔

[stone current]

things work and do differently

example

i could add properties for my shader in unity and use rendertexture with cam as buffer

in shadertoy

i needed 2 make them all constants at top of my code, use an image buffer for position and rotation data, etc

[small wing]

I see

[stone current]

also unity have overhead with it cuz it running unity

and shadertoy thing ran at couple hundred FPS cuz it was just my shader doing 3d renders

[small wing]

Plus taken into account the other stuff rendering in vrc.

[stone current]

or would run at couple hundred fps

[small wing]

so i can see why you gotta be precise

[stone current]

locked at 120 fps for vsync

[small wing]

Ooo

So i assume you have to lock it to 90? or do you remove the cap?

[stone current]

no

locked at 120 fps for vsync

[small wing]

🤔

lemme re read that

[stone current]

vsync means framerate locks to displays refresh rate

[small wing]

Yeah, so isn't vrchat locked to 90?

[stone current]

yea

[small wing]

This is where i'm confused in what u mean

[stone current]

shadertoy != vrcat

and unity itself not locked at 90 fps afaik

[small wing]

Ohhhhhh

i was thinking you were doing this for vrchat then.

[icy stream]

Hello

[stone current]

henlo

[cold quiver]

json isnt code, its just a format for data serialization

and a log parser just reads the log files to summarize information, it doesnt modify or touch the client at all

[stone current]

and provides better interface than if just treated as text

[civic plume]

vrchat added an afk feature. 3 times now and when i stand still for too long my screen goes black

im not too sure what it is. i got logged out and now logged back in

i hope they;re gonna throw out they're cheap potato server units for some good worthy ones soon, it will forever piss me off that im in a convo then get kicked and have to continuously join again

[umbral reef]

@civic plume Can also be the oculus doing it as they go into sleep mode when inactive

[civic plume]

not in vr

i dont have oculas either

i sent email to support

oh oclac its you

lol

[queen citrus]

Yo i keep getting sent back to my home world and having to log back in again any info will help thanks

[willow kiln]

Prob internet issues

[civic plume]

@queen citrus go to support and report there because im getting the same issue

[queen citrus]

Thanks will do

[civic plume]

thank you because it will wake up the dev team and make them look into it

[finite kraken]

i really hatehow vrchat does not have a nickname system yet because i find people who i have no clue who they are

[tacit plank]

It would be nice if you could add a description of them. Would probably stress the API a bit though.
I think client-server information could be batched better, at the moment it seem to send a lot of messages. The client also doesn't cache avatar preview images very well. They're slow and not in sync unless you have had the menu open for a while

[quiet torrent]

I literally got something on my mind. What if you could use 2 mouses for your characters hands. That would be dope.

[south viper]

it would be hard to hold a mouse while using VR controllers

[warm swallow]

@civic plume vrc doesnt have an afk feature

[civic plume]

dont ping me

[south viper]

ping

[quiet wave]

For recording on desktop mode, do people still use those 'camera avatars' to change height?

[wide kettle]

hello everyone XD

[tacit plank]

How much work is FBT?

Does it really take like 20 minutes every session to calibrate?

[languid beacon]

One of my Vive Base stations suddenly is always flashing blue and green and no longer tracks. Any advice?

[umbral reef]

Tried to do a full unplug?

Also make sure its placed stable
From what i can see blue light is that its stabalizing

[languid beacon]

Yeah it’s but constantly thinks it’s not stable all the sudden, it worked for over 400 hours

[umbral reef]

Also i assume you dont have them wires? If so make sure they are set to B and C

[languid beacon]

Tried with and without my sync cable as well as on its own, with correct channel setups

[tacit plank]

There's likely still warranty on them

[languid beacon]

I could t figure out how to make a vive support ticket on their website

[umbral reef]

disconnect them and place them facing towards eachother

[languid beacon]

Yeah I did, but shouldn’t it be able to stablieize with only one station?

When fully powered down and back on, it runs for about 2 minutes than just starts blinking blue and green and when blue the red light array is off and it does not track

[umbral reef]

Then its time to contact support

[languid beacon]

Do you have a link? There website seems to have professionally well hidden the create ticket link if there is one

[umbral reef]

For what country

[languid beacon]

USA

[umbral reef]

https://www.vive.com/us/support/contactus/

Start the live chat there if you can and get them so there is already a ticket made for it

[languid beacon]

Thank you

[abstract leaf]

hi

[languid beacon]

well vive support firmware flashed my base station and it's maybe working now

[ornate pawn]

anyone know why my particle system is attached to my head instead of my gun in vr but when im in desktop mode it works fine

[languid beacon]

Can't seem to update base station firmware. I pause on this screen https://i.imgur.com/DLuYJQ6.png

[fervent crypt]

Anyone knows how to change vive controlers settings?Cause everytime I'm trying to walk i trigger a animation

[echo fable]

I keep trying to fix the unity

but still wont let me type

so i cant upload

I cant post a picture

cause it wont let me but i have the play buttonon

[stone current]

ya u can also prob not the channel 4 support

[echo fable]

?

[covert linden]

#user-support-old

[vapid musk]

Yaaaay, I have been granted upload access and am not officially a new user! 😛

Took about two days worth of lots of playing, I'm just happy it wasn't two weeks like the early estimates I've been told about were ^w^

[neon flume]

Oh yeah it varies a bunch afaik. One of my friends was able to get it in about 4 hours of playing.

[vapid musk]

I wasn't as good as your friend then I suppose, but I think I did decently 😄

Now I can finally create and playtest some custom worlds!

[warm wave]

erro

[vapid musk]

Mi español es mui mal, por que el idioma primero para este sala de chat es inglés.

(Took almost 3 minutes for that sentence, lol xD)

[lunar willow]

He said, he has the game for, the phone?

[covert linden]

@lunar willow what gamr

[lunar willow]

I don't know, It is not specified

Probably just sent the message in the wrong server

[vocal shard]

?

[viscid totem]

@tacit plank i got fbt in yesterday. it took me like 30 min. you have to pair them (click on steamvr pair controller and than turn 1 tracker on (one at the time), update the firmware (takes like 20 sec per tracker). Than you have to tell steamvr what the 3 trackers are used for and ur done. I think you dont need to do the setup ever again after that

[safe prism]

vive-only fbt ez asf

[viscid totem]

setting your model up perfectly takes more time than the setting up of the trackers

[tacit plank]

Alright, thank you! Some people just play without FBT some days, so it seems that it's a lot of work now and then

I have vive

[polar jasper]

It all depends, I prefer playing with FBT all the time, but sometimes I just cba to take it on as I am only going to sit there and talk with people. So no need to use up the power to do that

[vernal shuttle]

I founded the mini game soccer ball on vrchat

[coarse sorrel]

Football?

Or is it like that game where you use your hands instead

[vocal shard]

so, after 1 year of desktop mode, getting an oculus was a great change, my avatar game went up a lot after i got vr, i could make more complex animations and such

is full body tracking a big change for immersion?

has anyone ever made something with it for avatar? like, a collider on your foot to kick soccer balls you spawn with a gesture?

[primal oak]

Just wrote my first report email. I kind of feel bad having to write a report email with evidence, but I just lost the trust in trusted users.

[umbral reef]

The trust system can only work if people report users...

[jolly sky]

hi

i need helpi just started playing and i dont know what to do can anyone help me?

[pale quail]

there's no objective

just talk to somebody and hang out I guess

[jolly sky]

ik but i wanna know how to play lol

[pale quail]

just hit buttons until you figure out how it works?

[jolly sky]

how to getavavtars? theres only a couple good public ones

[queen mango]

WASD and Space for movement and jumping as standard
Shift+F1 - F8 for hand gestures
Shift+Esc for Safe Mode
Esc for the Quick Menu
Ctrl + / to switch to Default Y-Bot

[jolly sky]

more specifically how to get ugandan knuckles

[queen mango]

[jolly sky]

whats safe mode

[queen mango]

Safe mode disables all avatar features which are featured in the "Safety" settings except for those of friends

And no, I do not kno da wae. I am the guider of da wae.

[dense meadow]

hi with my oculus is it supposed to be a crystal clear image or just a regular slightly blurry image

[jolly sky]

im not using vr headset lool

[queen mango]

@dense meadow From what I seen in the pics, it's as a bit blurry as the Vive, and a bit more than any of the WMR Headsets besides Samsung Odyssey+, which is much less blurry

[dense meadow]

oh its not supposed to be a crystal clear image but a slighlty blurry one?

[queen mango]

There's a reference pic that I seen before but forgot where it came from. You could find it in Google Images

Hold on, I'll search it for you

[dense meadow]

Ty

[vocal shard]

2000+ hours veteran/trusted represent

[ornate pawn]

Can anyone tell me if this girl actually seems like she cared about her relationship

She said "I'm single now and im sad lol"

[stoic halo]

haha

got mine at 200. flex on them plebs

[vocal shard]

got what at 200??? ive been veteran/legendary since befroe the ranking patch

[median basalt]

k

Too bad the worst people I know are all "trusted" lmao

[warped bear]

When I load into Vrchat with vr I'm stuck in prone

[worldly cedar]

Does anyone know the code to the volt secret room?

[median basalt]

Volt Club has a keypad that has been disabled temporarily

The code had been leaked

I don't think it ever allowed access to any "secret" rooms

Only spawned a baseball bat to teleport people (why even?) and an override for the music

Right now there is no code so it's always just "incorrect"

[versed sleet]

Has Vr Chat moved out of SHITNESS phase yet ?

or is it still are aesthetic vomit pile with clumsy UI and terrible avatars ?

[queen mango]

[earnest drift]

VRChat team: what's up with this response? https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/ip-exploit
Are you all aware that people can use IPs to track others actual location in real life? This makes me seriously want to quit/delete your game. You all are not taking security serious enough between the constant exploiters who steal other peoples avatars and crash others to this nonsense.

[stray quartz]

@versed sleet yes because it was never bad :D

@earnest drift did u read the response on that post as it was answered

[earnest drift]

Yes, I did and it's BS

[stray quartz]

I disagree as it's not fully Vrchat but Steam itself

[earnest drift]

the client that users are using to steal other people's IP is not to steal IPs from Steam. It's collecting userdata from VRChat.

[stray quartz]

"Steam Networking is a peer-to-peer realtime networking service in use by many applications, including VRChat." Yes they get the info from VRChat but it still via Steam Networking

Like many other games on steam

[earnest drift]

well most people would "use a vpn" in this case

however, VRChat isn't that friendly to VPNs

[stone current]

i see how getting IP is a problem but the IP itself doesnt contain any useful information other than ur location and etc about ur provider

typically the only thing people would do with that is dox someone (there are other cases obv) but i mean it shouldnt be that common

[earnest drift]

yeah, it "shouldn't be"

let's be honest

[stone current]

ive played vrchat for a while and mayb ppl have done it w/o me knowing but its not like anything has happened at all

[earnest drift]

vrchat is a social platform where others talk to other people and learn bits of information day by day with others

there are some really creepy and dangerous people that play this game

[stray quartz]

Yea but that's info people decide to give out

[earnest drift]

agreed

there's volunentary info and then there's involuentary info

[stone current]

if u feel threatened change ur IP address and make sure in case the threat is real that someone else knows about it

[earnest drift]

I dunno of anyone outside of local friend circle who would willingly give someone there personal information like that

[stone current]

if its to that point

but it really shouldnt be getting to that point

[earnest drift]

also depending on your isp

[stray quartz]

I dont understand wat your trying to say about involuntary info

[earnest drift]

you can't just "Change your ip"

involuntary information would be information that you find out about me that isn't publicly accessible by me that could be used to track me down

[queen mango]

@versed sleet For note, VRChat moved out of the Ugandan Knuckles phase..
While the UI could still use some improvements, and we lost the old startup and loading screens, they're doing what they can to try and introduce regulations to avatars, especially those in public avatar worlds.

[earnest drift]

I work in security so I am very aware of what a person can do with an IP, that's why this response pisses me off

[stone current]

well yea its kinda the same debate with anything political or anything controversial

[stray quartz]

If u know about security why not e-mail vrchat and work with them

[earnest drift]

When a person builds an application they have full control of putting security in place to stop this kind of thing from happening

[stray quartz]

Help the develop something better

[stone current]

we could talk about gun control and what giving and taking away guns would do and what harm they cause but both points are pretty valid

[earnest drift]

"use the canny" system was the response

which guess what lol

that's what the original hyperlink was from

wunder, gun control doesn't have anything to do with finding a person's location. And VRChat can't fix a gun control policy

[stone current]

i didnt say it was related 2 security or vrchat

[earnest drift]

ok that's what I am talking about tho

[stone current]

i was comparing the debate

but ok

[earnest drift]

this doesn't need to be a debate

[stray quartz]

I'm just going to say drop the subject as it's going no where from here

[earnest drift]

It just needs to be fixed

[stone current]

i mean cant steam also fix it

would sure help with those other games too

[earnest drift]

Ok steam fixes it on their end, what about users who go to vrchat through oculs directly?

[stone current]

but wasnt it a 'steam peer-to-peer' thing

and not an 'oculus home version' issue

at least from what ive heard

[earnest drift]

From what I know on my end regarding the exploit and how users connect it wouldn't fix the issue. That's why the security needs to be on the application and not on the 3rd party client being used to connect to the network. Considering the database that VRChat team is using with Amazon, I know there are bare minimum things they can setup on the application to block this information.

I don't really care for debating this. Awareness has been made for those who didn't know about it, especially to my friends who are playing this game. What I want to know is what the VRChat team is doing to address this issue, except for the obvious "It's not on our problem" answer that is in the canny link.

[weary bison]

Security is never not being worked on.

[stray quartz]

And tupper did respond to that as well

[weary bison]

Discussing precise details is a bad idea for any service, but they're always working on it.

[earnest drift]

the lack of transparency is why VRChat keeps getting exploited

[warped bear]

how do i get out of prone in vr

[weary bison]

If you have questions or concerns you'd like to bring to the attention of a staff member, the best way to do it is to email [e-mail].

[earnest drift]

if your avatar is bugged out, switch avatars or grab a chair nearby

[warped bear]

im not using a proper vr headset im using my phone and then a controller, keyboard and mouse but i cant move my hands to get to settings and stuff like that

[earnest drift]

can you move to a chair that is close to you and grab one? That usually fixes it. Otherwise you may need to restart the game

[warped bear]

ingame hands i cant move with the controller. when i presss pause comes up with the options but i cant select anything since im using a controller

[earnest drift]

I am not sure how the controller works, but for people using their phone as a headest, the keyboard and mouse still operates the same way it does without it

unless for some reason you unplugged it

[calm frost]

guys i play in vr and my world with a friend works fine but when im in other worlds the fps drops significantly

[stoic halo]

ok guys this is super important

would it be possible to put a vive tracker on a sprite cranberry can and match it to a can in vrchat

[vocal ibex]

Hello

[gentle plume]

anybody know how to help with a steam vr critical error

im totally stumped and dont know where else to asdk

[rapid granite]

whar vr are you using?

[gentle plume]

Vive

I dont know whats happening, it wasnt happening earlier today

[rapid granite]

try restarting the steam client

[gentle plume]

i did

multiple times, same with steam vr, and i tried uninstalling and re installing steam vr as well

nothing

critical error

[stone current]

did u restar pc also

[gentle plume]

yep 3 times

[stone current]

weird

[gentle plume]

im honestly really scared

[rapid granite]

go to steam setting and use beta vr version thats waht i had to use to get it working

[gentle plume]

hmwait what

how would i do that

can you elaborate some more

[rapid granite]

yea one sec

[gentle plume]

?

[rapid granite]

goto steam setttings and in the account tap ther is a beta participitaion click change the change the pull down to beta update and click ok. then exit ou then restart stem and it should update.

[gentle plume]

ill let you know if it works

pls pls pls work

[rapid granite]

If dont work you will have to uninstall the vive drivers then reboot an reinstall them

[gentle plume]

it didnt work

still a critical error when i launch steam vr

[rapid granite]

whats the error say?

[gentle plume]

it says ipc compositor failed

error 306

[rapid granite]

how many monitors you have?

[gentle plume]

one.

idk what is happening i just dont want it to be broken

[rapid granite]

do you have Natural Locomotion installed?

[gentle plume]

what is that?

[rapid granite]

try reverting back the beta opt out of it

[gentle plume]

to the steam vr beta?

[rapid granite]

are you on a laptop?

[gentle plume]

desktop

[rapid granite]

opt out of beta

[gentle plume]

which beta steam or steamvr

[rapid granite]

both we are trying to force a update

message me so we don plug up the chat room

[sturdy pagoda]

@gentle plume it could be your link box or hdmi cable

[little aspen]

i found a way to get oob in the great pug without cheats or chairs

[elder fractal]

hey dudes im super new to VRC, the few times i played i just walked around

but what is some other stuff you recommend i should do

[vernal forge]

MMD dance world , murder room , werewolf

[fast mural]

.

[vocal shard]

Hi yes

[carmine dew]

So can anyone tell me why I was unable to sit in my home/my friends world?

Everytime I would go back to either they game would just go black then send me somewhere else aka back to my home or to a public instance of my home?

[polar jasper]

@signal sequoia #moderation-reports

[signal sequoia]

Thanks

[kind anchor]

lol

[signal sequoia]

yeah ive gotten crashed before plenty of times

[rigid crescent]

turn off animations for non-friends. you'll most likely never get crashed by an avatar after that

[white lichen]

those lags by avatar will make my whole computer crash

[rigid crescent]

then turn off animations 👌

[umbral reef]

And block avatars with loads of dynamic bones... Also helps a lo

[lethal summit]

hello buddyes

it is possible to export prefab as fbx for blender or a way to load the avatar in to blender?

[rigid crescent]

you can import fbxs into blender

[lethal summit]

ik that but there is no fbx in there...

just prefab/assets..

[prime olive]

Does anyone got thw shiba doge avatar?

[lethal summit]

its a mesh asset to be exact

in a mesh folder and called body.asset

any suggest?

[still lark]

Sounds like a ripped avatar to me. 😏

[rigid crescent]

it definitely does lol

[lethal summit]

whats ripped?

exported from unity as asset instead of fbx?

[still lark]

Also got an Avatar folder too, probably a Texture2D as well? :P

[rigid crescent]

[lethal summit]

yea kinda.

textures..

nah nvmind

il make my own custom objects instead.. il just use some photos as example..

[vocal shard]

if you're a normie just turn off animations and particles 4head... dont be racist

[analog schooner]

Does anyone else hate it when someone presses the reset button in the Presentation room?

Like frequently?

[vocal shard]

unfriend them or dont go to public presentation room

[median basalt]

That's why you don't go to public presentation rooms

[vocal shard]

and if there are a lot of steam users you should change worlds

[median basalt]

Nah

I met some cool steam users

Although a small amount of them just clones some very annoying avatar and starts spamming it, at which point I block the person entirely

I might disable just audio for visitors so I don't get earraped as often anymore

[analog schooner]

At first, my trick was to avoid full Presentation rooms. That stopped the crashing.

Now my trick for public Presentation worlds might be to only join at an earlier time.

[median basalt]

I don't go to presentation rooms at all

I don't go to The Box either

That alone avoids 90% of the toxicity

Although the Pug is usually full of laggy Larens thots these days lol

[lethal summit]

in my opinion....public stuff should have the most stuff blocked...avatars included.. except voice sound.

[covert linden]

I always have all my safety off

No regrets

But there was someonee in the public lobby placing portals on everyone the other day

To a worls called public ban

[lethal summit]

i did met ppl that they open portals in to players.. that was wierd.. 100 portals in same place.

[covert linden]

Thia guy just dropped them on people

No mattrr where they were in the world

[woven laurel]

Question: I took some pictures in VRChat using the built-in camera. Where are the photos saved to? Thanks.

[carmine dirge]

sup guys

[tacit plank]

Mine go to C:\Users\%USERNAME%\Pictures\VRChat

And the Steam folder, but they're not as good quality in there

@woven laurel Been over half an hour, so I'm pinging you to make sure you see it

[polar jasper]

He got responded to in #user-support-old

Hey @carmine dirge

[tacit plank]

Shit. Well, hopefully it's useful to some other reader

[carmine dirge]

ya guys playing some vrchat?

[polar jasper]

Not at the moment no, will be later at some point

[carmine dirge]

ah ok ok

[polar jasper]

Still in bed, so not gotten that far 😛

[grand zealot]

Does anyone understand why blocking all models also mutes people?

I do not block voices.

[heavy dawn]

It doesn't for me. If I go max safety I still hear them.

[thick rivet]

Hey guys, for some reason, when I go to any world, all other peoples' models have their download stuck to 0, without exception. Is that actually the bug the devs talked about on february ? Or was that supposed to be solved ?

[umbral reef]

That problem should be solved
I highly suggest trying out the steps listed in #vrchat-support
If that fails you will need to contact support and provide your outputlog.

[thick rivet]

alright, I'll try that. Thanks

[late lake]

helllllllllo everyone. anyone daydrinking atm? 😊

[languid beacon]

I hope there’s not some link between VR use and heavy drinking because I’m starting to notice a pattern in VRChat lol

[covert linden]

Eek thats why im.always in friends+ my ptsd canf handle this

[dense meadow]

https://goo.gl/images/eW2pE5 does anyone know what video this originally comes from

[late lake]

oh yeah?

[hasty delta]

So any person on this have an oculus go

[frosty pumice]

I'm done with airports.

[vocal shard]

Yo

[frosty pumice]

So We had a giant fail for a youtuber trying to be on a flight.
It was, hilarious.
Plane 2 was doing a wheelie
And then we got hijacked twice.
Then the plane flew away across the water.
A hacker flung everyone.
The plane got destroyed.
We couldn't take off because, tailstrike was on and we still weren't going
Also
d_ang got admin.
He messed up the plane flight.
People were trolling,
People were crowding.
It was, AMAZING.

That was the best flight ever.

[lethal summit]

guys!
it is possible to spam warning message to other ppl?? when u are the one who made the session?

spamming that fast that you make the one who gets warning unable to move?

[vocal shard]

Shrugs

[lethal summit]

how fast can u give some one a warning message?

[heavy dawn]

Lots of terrible things are possible in VRC.

https://tenor.com/view/aladdin-disney-cartoons-jasmine-ican-show-you-the-world-gif-4545341

[vocal shard]

Pffft

[heavy dawn]

I can show you a world
Huge, creative and steaming
Refuse shiny and gleaming
Knux on every map

A whole new world!
A whole fantastic crash for you
No one to tell them no
Or where to go
Or mod their awful screaming~

💜 VRC

[lean fulcrum]

Wow!

[vocal shard]

why did the white girl walk into odd numbers?

[lean fulcrum]

why?

[vocal shard]

becuz they cant even

[lean fulcrum]

I shoulda seen that coming lol

[heady sluice]

anyone know how to fix the issue with steamvr always starting in safe mode and being unable to disable safe mode?

[calm frost]

guys i play in vr and my world with a friend works fine but when im in other worlds the fps drops significantly

[rigid crescent]

it's either your pc, or the worlds

whats your specs?

[stray mesa]

Is there a legend or document that explains heat, seven, and the other stats on the VRC site?

[rigid crescent]

wut

[stray mesa]

The VRC site got an update and it shows more stats, but I have no idea what some mean

[rigid crescent]

stats?

link?

[stray mesa]

Not sure which are able to be shown publicly or not

[umbral reef]

https://i.imgur.com/Sjl0LFW.png

Its on the normal website so you are lmao

[rigid crescent]

oh for worlds

[umbral reef]

Atleast they cant stop me

[stray mesa]

Yeah, the only stats they don't show publicly are reports and report weight. Still want to know what seven is

[opaque hawk]

How do you access that?

[umbral reef]

https://www.vrchat.com/home/worlds

Its legit in the worlds tab

[stray mesa]

Wish they had the thingy where you can put your cursor over the world and a little tooltip pops up

[opaque hawk]

Mine doesn’t look like that

[stray mesa]

Might be different according to browsers or something

Mine looks different, but I'm looking at my own world

[umbral reef]

🤷
So far i know im nothing specil so.
Im on chrome and the .com link as i showed

[stray mesa]

https://imgur.com/a/Dl3SaI0 this is what mine looks like

[umbral reef]

Guess world owners get to see a bit more then normal users

[opaque hawk]

It just rolled out for me, like I refreshed the page and it was different

[timber swan]

how do i use the in-game camera?

[opaque hawk]

Are you in vr?

[timber swan]

yeah

[tall abyss]

7⃣

[stray mesa]

7⃣

[cold quiver]

[stray mesa]

Open your quick menu and go to camera

[timber swan]

alright thank you

forgot that existed

[rigid crescent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443296254995464193/554456970745217042/unknown.png 🤔

seems like every world just has 1 report and report weight and are at 7

[stray mesa]

Probably a basic value everyone starts at

Report weight probably changes the higher amount of reports and shows how in danger the map is to being taken down or something lmao

Seven is just 7⃣

[cold quiver]

the seven, what does it mean

[opaque hawk]

What does heat mean?

[cold quiver]

i'm guessing popularity relative to a recent time interval

like how hot the map is now

where as popularity is overall?

my map has 2 reports

[rigid crescent]

is it an avatar world

[cold quiver]

https://nyanpa.su/i/5NDCs9A.png

[opaque hawk]

My avatar world has one

[rigid crescent]

who tf reported this world

[stray mesa]

Report weight 95 👀 holy shity

[rigid crescent]

LOl that weight is 95

holy crap

so report weight is defaulted to 1 unless youre the world owner then you can view it

[cold quiver]

my other public maps have 1 report and 1 report weight

[opaque hawk]

We will probably get a official announcement within a day

[stray mesa]

Guess 1 actual report kicks it up to 95 lmao

[opaque hawk]

🤔 now I cannot see my worlds listed on the website

[cold quiver]

popularity seems weird, my private worlds that no one visits

popularity of 4? lol

[vocal shard]

squidward on a chair

[rigid crescent]

https://puu.sh/CY9FO/2b6823130c.png mine is the opposite

My Seven is Seven at least 👌

[stray mesa]

7⃣

[cold quiver]

https://nyanpa.su/i/iJbSsCS.png

[covert chasm]

s e v e n

[cold quiver]

[vocal shard]

NANI?!

[rigid crescent]

why isn't it 9⃣

[covert chasm]

because i don't write the api/website

[rigid crescent]

just write the api forehead 🤔

[vocal shard]

A wild Tupperware Salesman appeared! Go VRCat

[cold quiver]

2 visits >popularity 3 https://nyanpa.su/i/7AsnsD6.png

yeah popularity metric needs some work

[rigid crescent]

POPULAR

[vocal shard]

Someone who uses > right

[umbral reef]

We feel its unfair towards the number 8 and demand the 7 becomes a 8 :^)

[rigid crescent]

at least your 7 is 7 tho

[vocal shard]

I like you

[covert chasm]

>not knowing how to comedy chevron

[vocal shard]

Don’t mind me gonna screenshot that

[rigid crescent]

I'm gonna lose my shit if we find a 7 that isn't 7

[tall abyss]

7⃣

[cold quiver]

thats going in the thread

[umbral reef]

Its just a really shitty writen 1 @rigid crescent

[stray mesa]

Are we implying

[vocal shard]

Yes

We live in a society

[cold quiver]

i'm guessing report weight is to show how important/significant a report for a particular world would be

a world that gets a lot of reports has a low report weight, while one that is rarely reported has a high weight

[vocal shard]

report weight
300 pounds

Like it’s a lotta reports

[thick rivet]

dunno what kind of bad luck I'm having, but now each time I enter a map, I get kicked back to Home map 30 seconds later

[vocal shard]

Ha

[thick rivet]

goes to read the logs and sees "k_EP2PSessionErrorTimeout"
facedesk

[vocal shard]

trying to find a world with people to talk too im :(

[thick rivet]

Ah you and I have the same dilemma

[dusky harness]

Your world is already public and approved. You do not need to re-submit your world when you update it anymore! Did they change how public worlds updates are handled ?

[vocal shard]

ah i found some people. lit

[covert chasm]

@dusky harness Yes. If the world is public, you don't need to request approval again when you update.

argh name changes

[vocal shard]

Tup using emotes Pog

[dusky harness]

Thats amazing @covert chasm , tho must open some doors to people fill worlds with malicious stuff or high poly avatar bypasses . How you guys will handle that ?

[covert chasm]

Same way we always have been handling it, reports and etc

[dusky harness]

someone just crashed my graphics card, these days these crash avatars are a plague jesus .

[vocal shard]

Wait what

Like BSOD?

[covert chasm]

I strongly encourage you to turn off custom animations for users who aren't your friends, unless you're in an instance of users you trust

[dusky harness]

like modded sdk with trillions of particles avatars or others .

my settings are only allowed to the purple rank

so theres a "trusted" player trolling

[rigid crescent]

the worst offenders lol

[vocal shard]

ok i really don't think my computer was meant to run vrchat rip

[dusky harness]

im still orange juice rank XD

[vocal shard]

There are a lot of trolls through all ranks. Best to disable animations for all except friends if you're concerned.
Will keep from being crashed by particles or shaders, but still let you see everyone

the whole game just crashed because i Crouched

[dusky harness]

hmhmhmm

well im on a brazillian map, you can imagine the level of fuckery rolling around in these avatars .

[rigid crescent]

well, the required/recommended settings are on the website 🤔

[vocal shard]

meh it may just be my computer being stupid it doesn't like games :/ but it's getting late so imma get off for the night lol

[thick rivet]

I always set the safety mode to OFF... but perhaps it's because I'm bad at making friends xD

[wary carbon]

SUP!

[tepid rampart]

Hello everyone! Its nice to meet you!

[wary carbon]

OOF

[sour sandal]

hello

[vocal shard]

Edgy Gamur Gurl

Ohh boy

hey does somebody wanna play vrchat?

[vocal shard]

hm

[languid beacon]

I wonder what my world’s Seven rating will be

[glass goblet]

If you see a pole it's probably me

[rigid crescent]

not the other hundreds of vrchat players copying the pole avatar 🤔

[calm frost]

@rigid crescent about my problem(laggy in vr), my specs are i7-4770 @3.4ghz, gtx 1660 Ti, 32gb ram

but the utalization of each component is only at 50% when playing

[rigid crescent]

🤔 that's weird then, you should be perfectly fine in VR...

[covert linden]

Could be a bad windows update?

[finite topaz]

@calm frost it may be a internet problem because it’s definitely not the computer

[calm frost]

im on the most recent one

might be internet... my pc is op i built it myself

selfless bragging

[finite topaz]

There’s no way that computer has trouble running vr lol

[calm frost]

sometimes it does

well i mean the fps dropps alot

dont think its internet

[umbral reef]

Welcome to dynamic bones and other unoptimized avatar components

[finite topaz]

That makes no sense at all lol

That’s a super computer almost

[stone current]

window update kill fps

[finite topaz]

Unless there’s something I’m missing

[umbral reef]

Its a mid to high end pc with those specs...
a 1660 TI = a 1070
The game also has a fair big components that are single core. So the 3.4Gh instead of a 3.9gh also isnt in your favor.

[stone current]

the cpu not best

i think lower than mine

[umbral reef]

The ram is high end tho if the read speed is proper

[calm frost]

its turbo boosted to 3.4

and i upgraded the gpu

[gloomy valve]

anyone having this weird issue where avatars load in as plain phong materieals?

[calm frost]

ram is ddr3

[stone current]

do u hab shaders blocked

[gloomy valve]

nope

no sheilds, i like to live dangerously

[calm frost]

@umbral reef so the only thing i can do is get better pc?

[finite topaz]

What’s your ping

[calm frost]

me?

[finite topaz]

Yea

[calm frost]

not sure, but i dont experience rubberbanding or anything

[umbral reef]

Not really- Its better to just laggy as shit avatar with dynamic bones and evne more important dynamic bone colliders

[finite topaz]

[calm frost]

but that juicy 90 fps

i cant go 45 fps with asw

[umbral reef]

Also close programs like discord and chrome when playing in VR

[gloomy valve]

time to upgrade i guess?

[finite topaz]

My pc switches between 90-91 FPS it’s weird

[calm frost]

damn discord too

[gloomy valve]

oh yeah. that makes a big diffrence. since the two are hella ram hogs

[calm frost]

i just spent 600$ to build a pc for my dads house

ram stays at around 50% the entire playtime

[stone current]

goes 2 100% within a few hrs

memory leaks op

[umbral reef]

The ram is totally fine.
Its prob your cpu dying but everyone has that in Vrchat.
Recently with the changes the game made there have been a shit ton more unoptimized avatars that can roam free. They got unchecked and can be so bad that blocking them can boost your performance be like 10 FPS

[stone current]

na was RAM

i playd like 3 or mor hr in vrcat

and it started blacc screening and crashing

and i look at task manager and 100% memory usag

[calm frost]

not my cpuuu

[umbral reef]

Well please explain me how 32Gb ran by default causes a problem in Vrchat then :thonk:

[calm frost]

i dont wanna upgrade a new mobo, cpu and ram

[stone current]

well i had liek 10 gb for vrcat

[gloomy valve]

oh yeah, its best to have avatar's that are super optimized.

[stone current]

cuz other prgms

[gloomy valve]

not to mention if they have crazy shaders on

[umbral reef]

@calm frost Again and i wont repeat it.
Try blocking avatars first. There are some laggy ass avatars there that even the really high end pc's cant handle well.

[gloomy valve]

or emit alot of particals

[calm frost]

cuz the i7-4770 is the best cpu i can get for ddr3

[stone current]

my laptop got like an i7 6k or something

[calm frost]

oofer

[stone current]

cant remembr

[calm frost]

i have a macbook bleh

[umbral reef]

@stone current You =/= this person
also ram problems most often means you crash not that you get a shitty fps

[stone current]

but no good fps with many thing

many world in vrcat with lot of people*

[languid beacon]

FWIW: VRChat Desktop Third-Person: Add a rigid body to avatar's head, disable gravity. Create an empty gameobject inside the avatar (but not inside the armature), add a fixed joint to it, make the target the avatar's head. You're done. When worn by a desktop user, they will see from the camera. Menus will useable but rendered in front of your avatar's face, so make a gesture that disables/repositions it so they can return to first person.

[bronze bison]

You can get banned just for having the game crash on you?

[stone current]

??

no banned for making others crash lol

[bronze bison]

Oh okay

[stone current]

also #moderation-reports

[bronze bison]

I wonder does avatar emitting a light crash the game?

[rigid crescent]

You're not going to crash someone accidentally most of the time.

you can report them at the moderation email with their new account name

[signal sequoia]

Yeah, I will. Thanks

[languid beacon]

realtime lightsources on avatars are, in general, a terrible idea, they're not laggy so much as annoying, they can steal frames in abundence but mostly they just make everything look bad

anything positive they do can usually be done with baked lighting instead

[bronze bison]

I kinda wanted to make my avatar look like it had little siren looking lights 😐

[languid beacon]

Nothing's stopping you 😛

[inner cape]

baked lights don't work on avatars

[paper cloak]

anything positive they do can usually be done with baked lighting instead

on an avatar?

[languid beacon]

Emissive textures

if you want to light up

if you want to shine a flashlight, no

[paper cloak]

nobody uses realtime lights in place of emission in their materials

they accomplish two completely different things

[languid beacon]

the only realtime lights i've seen on avatars are to make everything bright

[inner cape]

he wants to have siren lights like on a cop car, wdym

[paper cloak]

Realtime lights are fully customizable, range intensity, shadows, etc

[bronze bison]

I still have a maya avatar that’s like a not near finished state. Like I forgot to get a add in slip in to work in maya at college to finish my vrchat avata. Now I’m stuck with something in my usb file that I don’t know what to do ...

Maybe I should make a memorial for it

[paper cloak]

they serve a purpose, if someone is just "making everything bright" for no reason, they aren't using them correctly

[languid beacon]

The problem is you don't have an instillation of maya?

or am I misunderstanding

[bronze bison]

Yeah i can’t afford maya

It’s expensive

[languid beacon]

i mean if you had the ability to use it for free

just use it for free

I guess it depends on how important going by the letter of the law is to you rather than spirit

[bronze bison]

It won’t let me besides I thing the free pirated versions of animation software will infect my computer even more.

I can’t even afford a anti-virus so I have avast

[languid beacon]

That's a change of subject but, anti-virus stuff is typically a scam

Especially if it's paid

Windows defender as part of win10 is entirely sufficient

all that crap paid does is slow down your computer and hold it hostage if you want to uninstall it

[bronze bison]

Yeah I don’t have that so I use ccleaner

[vocal shard]

how hard is to get a known user role?

[languid beacon]

I got known at 152 hours and trusted at 302. none of that was idle, most of it spent with groups in a world i made

[bronze bison]

I wonder once you leave vrchat for many months does known user go away?

[tulip pivot]

I love scamming scammers

[languid beacon]

trust does not decline

unless you do something bad

[bronze bison]

Oh okie.

[languid beacon]

like get reported / kicked /blocked / warned

[tulip pivot]

No your rank stays the same

I’ve been on VRC for couples years now

[languid beacon]

in general, create a positive experience for other people and rank goes up fast. make avatars that other people like to wear, make worlds that other people like to hang out in, etc

that's all just a guess

but, it seems to be part of it

[tulip pivot]

I never made a world or avatar but I’m trusted user

You don’t have to make worlds or avatars

[languid beacon]

Your account could just be older than jesus

You don't have to do anything

[vocal shard]

soo, how i can do it?

[languid beacon]

But having other people hang in your worlds absolutely fast tracks it

[bronze bison]

I wish I had vrchat equipment just to make myself more interesting 😐

[tulip pivot]

Guess just time 🤷🏼‍♂️

I got full body but it gets boring

I wouldn’t recommend it unless it’s on sale. $1k+ not worth

Or get an oculus then rig leg trackers

[languid beacon]

i got trusted at 302, got a friend at 1000+ and is still known, only real difference between us is he never uploaded a world

[tulip pivot]

I went from trusted user to known user because I got blocked by another trusted user. But then it went back up and I haven’t had a problem. When the update got released for ranks I was already purple

It went back up in less than a day

[languid beacon]

yeah people who were placed into higher ranks are a bit different

[tulip pivot]

I’ve never seen my account below known user

[languid beacon]

many old accounts were just trusted by default

[tulip pivot]

Maybe

But then again I have probably top #10 rank in hours played

[languid beacon]

i already had around 100 hours when rank came out i was placed into User

[tulip pivot]

I probably already had over 1k

But I have uploaded avatars

Never made them though. Or made worlds

[bright widget]

That's pretty good!

[tulip pivot]

I bet I could replace dubbed Kirito

But that voice actor is good at it

But I’m better

And he is one guy I look up to for voices

How’s Asuna?

[bright widget]

You could replace my voice for one SAO episode 😉

[tulip pivot]

Nah it’s all good. Don’t wanna ruin the rep and immersion 😃

I’ll make new sao. And I’ll be named Hurlito

Lmao.

[bronze bison]

:| feeling like vrchat should’ve been my social life since day one X_X and failing at my first impressions just cause I don’t know how to model with blender or unity and only maya

[tulip pivot]

Pay people to make avatars

That’s what I do

[bronze bison]

Do they sell those for like thousand dollars?

[tulip pivot]

$10-500

[bronze bison]

A price of a car right X_X

[tulip pivot]

Depends on the model you want haha

If it had a lot of shit then probably haha

How do I make my dreams more real?

[bronze bison]

Grr sorta made a drone that looked like it was equipped with a deadly audible weapon. Though honestly the drone was supposed to look like a sphero

There are tiny drone toys that are small balls ...my idea was to make my avatar look like that

With portal 2 turret sound effects 😐

Bet someone would take my idea right now as I said that

Oathmeal and naddition would probably spit at me if it look like I stole someone else’s idea when they already took mine.

Trying to be a fan or a friend is a sin X_X when your a individual that you just want to be interesting to everyone heh ;_;

[cold talon]

Thx for the avatar idea

[bronze bison]

Yeah do me a favor and tell oathmeal and naddition to spit at someone name hiz manufacture. Cause honestly now you took my idea you took my worthiness away to meet them. Bahka

Have fun in the v.i.p list bahka

[queen mango]

[rigid crescent]

You realize you don't need to make your own model from scratch, right?

Like almost no one has that.

[bronze bison]

Naddition and oathmeal created those from scratch didn’t they X_X

If I ever meet those two or accidentally stepped into the same world I’d be scared shitless to face them . Cause I feel like I should breath in the same vrchat world they are in cause I ain’t qualified for wherever they go

Like I should leave immediately if I see them.

It’s a pity vrchat autographs isn’t a thing X_X

[rigid crescent]

Literally who and what are you talking about dude

[vocal shard]

lol

[bronze bison]

Two youtubers who are known in vrchat dude ._.

[rigid crescent]

They user generic mmd avatars like everyone else.

They didn't make them from scratch

[cold talon]

The only vrc youtuber I know is shana

[rigid crescent]

The only known person I'm aware of that does Avatars from scratch is Bem.

[bronze bison]

K well thanks for helping my self esteem. I felt inadequate just cause people made avatars from scratch and took every hour to make it including you mic sounders

[rigid crescent]

Well almost no one does lol

[vocal shard]

u wot from scratch models

[rigid crescent]

A lot just buy them or piece them together from mmd assets.

[craggy tapir]

hey is anyone awake?

[rigid crescent]

💤

[umbral reef]

Also legit all youtubers who have cloths and ect that are specially made are payed for.
They dont edit it themselves.

[vocal shard]

is just me or some avatars effects are really annoying tho?

[bronze bison]

Going to go sleep now I was just awake cause vrchat was near to give me nightmares of feeling unqualified for the people of vrchat. Anyway goodnight all of you.

[umbral reef]

Plenty are annoying yea marco

[rigid crescent]

Most Avatar effects are annoying. It's why I play with animations off

[umbral reef]

Even worse if your in VR

[vocal shard]

yeh, im in vr...

and some idiots decide to play a dance animation that affects your view

[craggy tapir]

is it ok to post my bfs twich channel he is live on vr right now and he has recently just started streaming ?

[rigid crescent]

Block animations from non friends.

[vocal shard]

luckily im immune to that stuff lel

[rigid crescent]

#shameless-self-promotion

You wanna post is there

[vocal shard]

but it annoys me , since if im playing a game..

like murderer, i dunno my view gets replaced by manga faces

devs shall do something to prevent this kind of effects c_c

[craggy tapir]

ok posted it 😛

he been up all night streaming XD

[rigid crescent]

They do, it's called the trust system and you can use it to block animations. You can Also report those users for it if it becomes a problem.

[bronze bison]

You know if you take away animations and emotes people who like goku will probably get angry

Cause preventing the cameha isn’t a pretty sight to see

In a dragon ball fan perspective anyway

[rigid crescent]

Well he can be annoying in another world lol I block animations from anyone who isn't my friend, since cloning avatars became a thing I haven't been turning it off at all.

[bronze bison]

Oh alright

[cold talon]

Ouch all the broken avatars

[rigid crescent]

Lol why would I play with something I don't like. They're annoying.

Only smoothbrains need flashy lights to be entertained

"duhhhh look at these flashy effects wooooow" then they get drool all over their shirts.

Talk to people forehead. E z clap.

[vocal shard]

Yikes

You got at least 2000 hours right

[velvet quarry]

Don't look at mirrors, problem solved

[umbral reef]

Oi no using logic in here Afro

[bright widget]

I wonder how vrchat would be without mirrors.

[rough pulsar]

Over 2k hours of vrchat, pretty sure about 1% of that is looking at mirrors, and most of that is for FBT calibration.
Get on my level.

[bright widget]

75% of the vrchat
playerbase sat in front of mirrors looking at themselves with their public avatar in the box, the pug and even the void club back stage lol. I think vrchat need a bigger community.

[polar jasper]

People just need to get out of private lobbies 😛

[bright widget]

Talking about the void club, when the room is fill by 25 people but nobody on the dancefloor. Lol

[glossy wharf]

Yeah its just as if people would go there to chill and listen to a bit of music

or because the map itself has a nice background area

[rigid crescent]

People act like the majority are literally just sitting silent in the mirror.

They're talking and hanging out. It's what I see everywhere

[glossy wharf]

Idk, usually people do stuff in front of the mirror that the game was made for, yknow, socializing

[rigid crescent]

Mirrors help with immersion as well as fov, so I dont quite understand the stigma

[glossy wharf]

and its also comfy

[bright widget]

I myself sit in front of mirrors most of the time cause that's what most people do

[rough pulsar]

I love worlds without mirrors

[rigid crescent]

Either is fine. It's all talking to me.

[glossy wharf]

complains about mirrors
"i myself sit in front of mirrors most of the time..."

[rough pulsar]

Maybe I'm just an odd one out that likes to have some kind of actual eye contact when talking to people

[rigid crescent]

Well you have no choice but to have eye contact with eye tracking lol

[bright widget]

Yeah, I'm honest, most wouldn't be

[rough pulsar]

You know what I mean

[rigid crescent]

So you get the in mirrors too.

I do lol

Not wanting to do it is totally ok but this weird stigma seems to exist as if socializing is any different without it.

"haha mirror chat" ok haha circle chat, like I don't get it. Your alternative is 10 people in a circle talking instead lol

[queen mango]

From my part, the maps I found myself in with Gallium don't have any mirrors

[rigid crescent]

Except now you take up more space in publics as well. I kinda noticed that a night or two ago in a pug oddly enough. We were all dead center of 2 walkways in the pug but I guess there's no collision so it's whatever

[rough pulsar]

In my experience it always feels like you aren't the one they're paying the most attention to when with people in front of mirrors.

Like they're focusing on looking at themselves and you're jsut background noise they're kinda paying attention to.

[rigid crescent]

Hm, I can see how you'd perceive it that way. I tend to look at the speaker in the mirror or sometimes turn to them if they're nearby

But there's no way for you to know that

The social cue definitely isn't the same as face to face.

[solemn relic]

i still think they need a huge mirrior for twitch con

[rigid crescent]

They had one I'm pretty sure.

[solemn relic]

i missed last years

[rigid crescent]

My house actually used to have a vrchat style wall before we renovated. Two floor to roof 13 foot wall of mirror lol

[rough pulsar]

I also wonder how much social skill is involved, since a visible portion of the vrc userbase have some kind of social anxiety or other factors hindering social interaction in some way.

[solemn relic]

this year is closer so probs might make that one

[bright widget]

Lol mic

[rigid crescent]

Involved in face to face vs mirror?

[rough pulsar]

Yeah

[rigid crescent]

That's s good question honestly.

[rough pulsar]

Like does interaction through the mirror feel less direct and as a result is easier for those who aren't as good at navigating social situations?

[queen mango]

Probably..

[rigid crescent]

The screwy thing is that since mirrors are so commonplace it's almost weird to not be using one, which I think people might perceive as lacking social skills too

I'm fine with either form but I definitely can notice a difference in the overall feeling that I'm just not used to.

[queen mango]

I'm not sure about this, but how does a VR user feel when facing a Desktop user (like me)?

[small wing]

Pretty much the same as i see a vr user honestly.