Eye tracking is broken right? Not just me?
#vrchat-general-2
rough flax
When eye tracking does work, just limit the range of eye movement by alot, and then make your own eye blinks
300IQ blinking
lone scroll
just dont have eyes, duuuuuh
vivid pecan
is the game normal now?
lone scroll
it wasnt 1 hour ago, not gonna try anytime soon..
iron thunder
Whats the best way to make two strangers fall in love? Someone serenading and playing a guitar isn't working right now.
lethal stag
i got that penguin avatar but what are the buttons to zoom in and such
ruby burrow
Sadly the alternative eye tracking method isn't possible for my Cyclops. Losing eye tracking has a huge effect on that giant eye. Everyone that knows me has noticed something is strange instantly, even the people who hadn't realised it was broken til then.
Alt+F4 to zoom in.
iron thunder
those penguins need to be exterminated
lethal stag
yeah that isnt gonna close my program
nimble linden
Ctrl r system restore
ruby burrow
More seriously, it's presumably just one of the gestures, but be aware that overused avatar is likely to get you blocked by dozens of people if you start doing that.
Everyone's seen it 100 times by now.
nimble linden
People who use shaders that grab my camera in any way get insta-hidden
rigid crescent
Yeah, blows my mind that people wanna be instablocked lol
iron thunder
I dont know why Shaders or whatever can effect you from all the way across the map.
That shit should have a smaller radius.
ruby burrow
One more reason to look forward to the days of affordable mainstream VR, where there won't be hordes of 14 yearold desktop users, apparently unaware of how much they're irritating people.
rigid crescent
It's not the shader, it's the usage of it. People could make the area as small as a coin if they wanted to, they just choose not to.
ruby burrow
@iron thunder That's just the nature of user generated content. In 3D modelling there isn't really such a thing as true scale. All a "global shader" is, is a box or sphere with a shader applied to it, and scaled to a high value.
So you might say, "Just limit the scale of any object can be in Unity to 10 "...
But then all you have to do is make the box bigger in the original model first.
iron thunder
I mean I don't want to see people shrinking or anything. I just got gobbled up by a giant furry and I think I'm into that shit now. I just dont want music playing from across the map.
or having my vision turned into a bad music video.
queen mango
You could disable shaders in the safety settings..
iron thunder
Then I miss out on little things. Like I turned down the avatar SFX because of people spamming music. Went into a staircase.. barely heard a guy growling in my face and it would've been an actual funny moment.
Its the lame shit that fucks up the good shit.
vivid pecan
@marble igloo aeou
marble igloo
aeou
ruby burrow
I entirely agree with you on not liking intrusive spam like that. Was just explaining how there's not really any way to limit the size of objects quite like you mentioned.
There will probably be some other VR social game someday, one that will use a built in character designer and impose hard limits with far far less freedoms.
Some will prefer it. Personally I really value the creative freedom, even despite how many unfortunately insist on abusing it.
iron thunder
There are plenty of those social games. Altspace is one. It's more structured so more people do serious events for singing and stuff.
But nothing beats the spontaneity of VRChat.
Its always changing.
I guess every once in a while I'll just have to go out into the ocean to find the single guy spamming shit all the way across the map.
jolly minnow
When you upload an avatar on unity, what happens if you set it private? And should you set it to private ir public?
torn nebula
If you set it private only you can use it. If you set it public, then assume that other people might be able to use it (eg with avatar cloning, but there are other ways that don't require you to enable cloning to copy a public avatar)
So if you're okay with other people using it, set it public, otherwise set it private
steady locust
pulls out meat scepter
queen mango
vocal shard
Does anyone know how to take a screenshot without a headset. I'm just on desktop
queen mango
On Steam, it's a simple F12 press
But you can take 4K pics by combining Ctrl+F12
vocal shard
Thxβ€
queen mango
iron thunder
What worlds can I draw for a while in? I was in the presentation room doing a presentation and that shit started erasing mad quick.
floral aspen
it only erases when you hit the button. If you want to draw, make a private room so randos can't hit the erase button
vocal shard
is there a way to report someone that keeps crashing you and other players
umbral oracle
queen mango
There's the in-game moderation report option.
But you may wanna copy the output log text found in your VRChat folder
umbral oracle
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt
queen mango
Beat me to it
Anyways, make sure you didn't restart the game before copying the output log.
After copying the outputlog, send it over to moderation@vrchat.com
vocal shard
yeah hes jumping random servers and crashing everyone
true sky
Report him and at some point, they will ban him and encourage others, like friends that were in the room with you, to report him as well.
spring bronze
Where do you post reports for hackers
queen mango
Usually in moderation@vrchat.com
spring bronze
@winged igloo do you accept the ideal of banning people for using hacks like flying in game and killing players
queen mango
Check the #moderation-reports for info
spring bronze
I got photos of the username and prove of them flying
hazy crown
Not everyone that flies is a "hacker", You can simply put colliders on and underneath your avatar and it will make you soar into the sky
vocal shard
hacking or using modded clients is a bannable offence if that' what you're asking. report it as elire said if you would like it dealt with
finite kraken
so i am confused on how the favorites list for friends i keep adding friends for RP set up and it keeps clearing it
queen mango
Simply put; spend time visiting worlds, and talk to people there
vocal shard
@vocal shard
happy now
light wedge
hi
vocal shard
is that james vickers i see chatting"!
versed hound
So someone was first my friend, found out a lot about me and my shitty life, cus he offered to lsiten... After a week he lied in my face and blocked me... All this happened here but what he did in vrc is worse... He shit talked about me to others and I even lost a friend because of him... He shared the private conversation I had with him to his friends... Today he showed up again and started shit talking about me to others whilst I was present... After telling him that is not nice he said it is my fault cus my depressive life made him want to kill himself, which I doubt... I also told him that he should not share what I said to him especially that he said lies too... After listening to me he came to a conclusion that he will block me... And now he is still shit talking about me to the group I am with and I can't do aynthing about it... I am shaking, my chest hurts, I can't withstand the level of bullying he does...He basically got me close to him when he offered to listen to me, he shit talked about me to others doing harm, now he keeps doing that whilst I am shaking in the corner...
I love when people hurt me and I get punished for it too...
subtle prawn
π¦
umbral oracle
That's messed up - I've heard other stories of "gas lighting". I would take advantage of ingame reporting or #moderation-reports as it seems the user harassed you.
Now you are left with the harsh decision of starting to get a new set of friends ingame if you can't get them to remove this user from their friend list. And you're probably not going to open up as much as you used to. Another option is make a new account. It's going to be painful to get back to where you were.
versed hound
And now I got kicked from the group I was with cus of his lies, I would consider that part of bullying...
I love being powerless...
umbral oracle
You can take starting anew as an opportunity to find some different people or spend more time in public worlds.
versed hound
I will ask around in "dark" servers...
Maybe someone will feel bad enough to "help" me...
glass spire
Can we do something about people who hack the game. Basically modders.
umbral oracle
I wouldn't go the route of "dark" servers. try to stay in the light. Requesting help from others isn't going to help your situation
versed hound
The "light" never helped me...
umbral oracle
If you can connect directly with some of the people you were with on discord you can try telling your stories or explain that you love them but are sad that you can't stay with them in vrchat any more. ask if they can make time for you.
glass spire
@versed hound luna i read glimps of your story wr can hang out or talk about it
versed hound
That would be good...
I would love to hang...
Does not work that way, I am not a person, I am just a creature existing, no one cares about me and everyoone believes his lies...
vocal shard
time to get some better friends then
glass spire
Hold up
umbral reef
@glass spire Normal crashing/ect can be prevented by using the Particle Limiter (not part of the trust system, its an opt-in system you have to manually activate) and material crashing can be prevented by disableing materials.
Nothing can be done about the logout exploits sadly and with how long its taking for them to not use the system being abused... Its well... 
shitty
glass spire
@umbral reef oh well
umbral reef
Normally they are fast with fixing these things but as the system for logouts (This is an educated guess, i cant see or know there code so...) is prob part of something important it aint easy to disable
umbral reef
Hacking isnt a thing in this game.
Its all native Unity things or using exploits (for example to logout)
If the game allows me to pull all objects by having my avatar send a request to there servers to do it
It aint hacking but abusing an exploit/unity
glass spire
Alright lets forget about the hacking
umbral reef
Its still shitty what happens, how much people get away with these bullshit actions and how badly we get feedback on reporting- Cant deny that in any way or form
Im all for more moderators and actually feedback on reports...
glass spire
Yeah well we are fucked
umbral reef
If i now report a user without actually giving the right information i will never know that...
Unless we get a "You provided all the right information now we can look into it" it might be usefull for the community.
Or "This is a personal problem. They didnt break the ToS"
glass spire
So how can i report these incidents. Is there an option?
umbral reef
Depends kinda per case on how effective it is
But the basic rule is
Send your outputlog with as much additional information as you can to moderation@vrchat.com
!outputlog Both goes for crashes and logouts
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt
jolly nebula
And timeout issue is back π¦ Getting disconnected from vrchat with timeout error
plush cove
me too
rough pulsar
Are you guys in the eurpoe region? When it hit last night it seemed to be mostly EU users suffering from it, myself included (UK)
north axle
I'm still affected as well.
umbral reef
Fairly sure its the latency problems
plush cove
yep i am in europe
north axle
Last night I thought it was a client issue and switched to beta, but nothing new happened.
lethal summit
wierd how vrchat has no packet loss..
rough pulsar
My bets are on there's something going on in our area, or with the major routes across the atlantic that's making the client shit itself for no good reason.
north axle
Someone assumed it's got something to do with Article 13, but it's too early for that.
plush cove
i have problems about the shaders of the worlds
rough pulsar
And something as absolute as that wouldn't be causing intermittent connection problems, it'd be an all or nothing kind of deal.
queen mango
There doesn't seem to be a problem between Pacific lines
north axle
@plush cove Check #world-development, #vrchat-support, or #user-support-old, depends on what your question is.
plush cove
ok
rough pulsar
boo π»
polar elm
Shimmy in chat π
vocal shard
Maru! 
rough pulsar
Yeah, pretty good. Just re-rigging & weighting some fingers
vocal shard
Sounds "fun"
umbral reef
We will pray for you gallium
rough pulsar
Pff, it's easy and I know what I'm doing
umbral reef
Untill you accidentally paint that one vert that you didnt want to and only realize that a month later :X
vocal shard
Let's distract him so he mess up the fingers π
umbral reef
What we gonna do? Throw paper airplanes at him? Ring his doorbell and run?
rough pulsar
Jokes on you, I ignore the doorbell 99% of the time
meager solstice
^same
meager solstice
Go get one?
umbral reef
Owmy 
rough pulsar
You'd have to wait until I break out my towel and even then it's just an abyssal black void
vocal shard
Nuuu ;-;
rough pulsar
Hasn't stopped anyone from trying Β―_(γ)_/Β―
inner cape
π€
vocal shard
We need someone extra extra Lewd for you 
I can feel it, i will be banned in a sec 
hides
inner cape
what the hell you doing
umbral reef
We can get Fpaul to lewd Gallium 
inner cape
that's true
umbral reef
Ow wait Elire, you want to lewd Gallium then?
inner cape
vocal shard
Imagine everyone slide in his DM's now. His DM's would explode π
queen mango
No thanks.. I'm not in on the lewd biz anymore
vocal shard
One time lewd, always lewd π
inner cape
erie is pure now
vocal shard
Can't just stop D:
umbral reef
Its funny how now your a chat mod you think you have to act all pure
Meanwhile some chat mods are the biggest lewds here π
queen mango
umbral reef
@inner cape Well you where there for adverts model righto?
vocal shard
oof
umbral reef
His lewd model
inner cape
oh
he has ahegao faces on all models, except for the robbit
I don't remember any extra lewd models
umbral reef
Well lets keep it at advert was a big lewd
queen mango
Hmm.. I believe he had trap avatars in his avatar world, but they're all locked now
It's got Felix Argyle, Hideyoshi, and Asuramaru.. it's all I know
This is not to mention that the map itself is not yet 100% finished.
As in, sections walled off.
inner cape
oooh, I remember now what lewd avatar you're talking about
we shouldn't really talk about it here 
rough pulsar
Oh man, once a bunch of us were in a world and we'd found some very... interesting avatars. And were seing how badly they did in fullbody (oh lord did they do badly) and I forgot I was practically on top of the spawn point and ||haha nope no names for you|| spawned in right as I'd bent over and got a face full of animu panties. π
queen mango
Oh my... must've scarred you for life there
inner cape
plush cove
who wants to play vrchat w/me?
queen mango
It's pretty late for me to play VRC.. so I'll just look over this server for a bit more
umbral reef
Id recommend actally sleeping on time for once Elire π
plush cove
i am in italy, its 15:06 rn sooo if u want me to play w/u i should wake up like 00:01 or 20:00
queen mango
Probs.. I've been passing out on my bed countless times.
Right now, it's 22:07, or 10:07 PM for me
plush cove
yesterday i slept only 4 hours
plush cove
ok
rough pulsar
A good portion of the vrchat userbase is in american timezones, so with me being in the UK I do spent most of my time in vrc late at night (between 10pm and 4am)
queen mango
With my location being around Southeast Asia, most of the people I tend to meet aren't other Asians, but from EU and US
It's at a time where the sun shines right on us..
vocal shard
Does someone know if there is a way to delete the WHOLE friendslist in vrc?
queen mango
It's an impossibility
vocal shard
Like can you maybe send in a ticket and devs remove all ppl with one click or w/e... its hard to delete everyone when u have over 400-500 friends..
queen mango
So.. how come you want to delete your entire friend list?
vocal shard
because i have TO many ppl and its so hard to remove the ones who arent hanging out with you or you dont even know when u got 500 ppl +
So i would remove all and just add the close ones back.
median basalt
Pfft, avatar cloning is killing this game tbh
Every public instance is just 15 desktop users standing in a circle pulling out the same malicious "meme" avatars
Zero socialization
vocal shard
I am trusted user and have many avatars, not gonna make a new acc
median basalt
It seems the game might have issues keeping older players
Hence all of the playerbase in public is new
Move on to what?
umbral reef
Also why would you move on?
Ow brb let me stop living then because i been here for too many hours
Or quit this discord because i send thousands and thousands of msgs in here π€
queen mango
Gonna be honest with you. It depends on the people you're looking at
umbral reef
Just because a part of a content you enjoy is stale does not mean everything is stale within it
You can go explore the thousands of well made worlds, join one of the thousand different times of groups or care a bit less about wanting to find that 'perfect' person in the game
vocal shard
You can make new friends everywhere with new users/old users! Dance, Games, just talk and enjoy other ppls company
umbral reef
There is legit nothing proper to take this games place over...
If a game is more polished its because people get a lot more restricted
Id be like saying minecraft would get taken over by the billion clones that had one or another thing better but never understood the core msg of the game...
vocal shard
Everyday is a day full with fun and new ppl
queen mango
Steel 'N' Gold and Murder are two gamemodes I find fun playing with people
umbral reef
Its tbh sad how much people just stay n the same worlds instead of joining a server to play specific maps
The game isnt just 3 maps :x
New users are often cunts anyway from my experience
Tbh most people are cunts within this community so that above statement from me is meh
But most new users without Vr do not understand how annoying specific actions are within VR
That is one thing i highly dislike when meeting new people. I still do it as there are some great fun gems out there to chat with.
umbral reef
Ow well the high rank often have elitism type people yes- They are just stuck up bigtime
But i tbh enjoy talking to normal users the most as well- They are often to inexperienced to fuck you up and understand how annoying some things are within the game.
its why im happy they removed that Veteran rank after enough people (rightfully) complained about it
cold ibex
You can combine your steam and other account?
umbral reef
Steam and VRchat account? Yes you can
rigid crescent
Imagine getting the biggest streamer in the world off the game due to login loop that's been around 2 months. . We literally dropped 700 users in minutes lol
meager solstice
i dont think that was the login loop
tbh
the world probably hit the hard cap before he could load in, than kicked him out
considering there was 1500+ people in murder
main elbow
ok, im a nooby how do i use tools on my avatar on pc?
is it possible?
cursive ember
How do I put video quality lower?
zinc solar
Sup
rigid crescent
tools?
main elbow
@rigid crescent for example a gun on ur avatar
cerulean horizon
anyone noticed that the new public avatar models view points are above the head and not in it?
stoic halo
because people are dumb alot of the time and jack it up
cerulean horizon
but on every one of the new models
opaque hawk
I have that issue when I donβt zero out the y position of the armature bone
iron thunder
I saw a cat with a butthole in VRChat. Now i'm just questioning if thats obscene or not.
stone current
wat do u thincc
doesnt rlly matter if nsfw tho unless u dont like it
it sorta against rule and whatnot but not like u gota report it unless it gets on ur nerves or u know
dapper stump
The game is only as fun as you make it out to be. If you wont even try to find the fun or the great friends then of course you will be alone and bored
dapper stump
For a veeery long time now and still never had a thought of changing it 
stone current
idk how mani wulfe wulfie and wonder wafl i find but i OG o3o
dapper stump
2016
stone current
opaque hawk
Maybe I should make a spider-wolf. A wolf spider if you will.
stone current
make a fluffer wit a pettable fur shader
opaque hawk
Already have fluffy spider girl
languid beacon
@dapper stump they were probably all by the same creator
light wedge
how move vr chat data different local disk
my c: ran out for space
rough flax
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
vocal shard
Symbolic links
vocal shard
I do it to the majority of my appdata stuff. I don't want my boot drive pointlessly filling up.
light wedge
how do that
covert linden
@light wedge uninstall vrc and reinstall it to the D drive if thats where u want it
redirect steam downloads in general to the d drive
vocal shard
That's definitely not what you do. lol
I got a tutorial for symbolic links, I'll send it to you.
south spear
will there ever be a possible solution to lagers?
deep bramble
Probably not unless they want to employ a team of content-vetters to check everything that's imported.
light wedge
i think not work
vocal shard
da hecc does right click do
queen mango
It does two things. When not holding, it simply highlights your cursor, leaving particles when you look around, the other one is that it drops the item you're holding.
The longer you hold the right button, the farther and faster it goes
Going to the point where you're throwing it
iron thunder
I've been in VR in VRChat all weekend and I swear I just saw the little friend invite icon in the bottom left of my eye while browsing the web.
queen mango
Sounds like afterimages produced by your mind. You body may still be trying to get used to VR.
You may notice it less and less overtime the more you use VR, though..
Not sure though.. I haven't tried out VR yet
subtle prawn
@iron thunder That happened to me when I first started using VR and other things too. I called it VR vision! @.@
iron thunder
I've been using VR a while, but I went a little hardcore this weekend.
but now I know that cyberpunk eye implants would work.
subtle prawn
Do 10 hour runs π
mossy canyon
umbral oracle
I've caught myself looking for the mic icon before irl
That's wrong on multiple levels. Why would you even be doing that kind of crap in vrchat
queen mango
That's not how memes work, Frankly
vocal shard
frankie did you learn how to hop?
lime umbra
does vrchat work in linux ?
opaque hawk
Steam store page only lists windows
long tundra
thats kinda sad
but maybe the proton thing works?
it works with other unity games so
vocal shard
Can someone helps me ? I have no sound anymore in the game and i can't select any microphone.
long tundra
I feel very underqualified to answer (I just downloaded vrchat) but I would check the standard sound settings on your OS and if you cant find anything reboot
vocal shard
i tried to reboot and uninstalled the game
but the issue is still here
and it's happening only in VRChat
umbral reef
Gotta set the main input and output to what you want in windows for it to work within VRchat
vocal shard
my main input/output is the same as usual
wide iron
noble hemlock
dead meme
wide iron
Yes dead meme for the normies
rigid crescent
Know what's worse than knuckles ? Kids screaming "DEAD MEME DEAD MEME"
At this point it's turned some dumb awootist reaction
meager solstice
@stone current I donβt understand ur question
Unity packages r just exports from unity
stone current
in the project files
there are a bunch of unity packages
that i didnt manually create
are they leftovers from the avatar upload process and can i delete them
stone current
k
meager solstice
U sure u didnβt get a unity package from somewhere else?
stone current
no like
every avatar i have on the project
has a unity package in the project
outside of the assets folder
meager solstice
Yeah..... double click it and it opens up the model or whatever is in it
Itβs the scene+everything else shaders...etc all put together
subtle prawn
Ye
meager solstice
Oh I donβt enable future proofing
stone current
cuz vrchat seemingly makes unitypackage when uploading with future proof
subtle prawn
I did, I needed that save it was taking lol
warped thorn
Future proofing doesn't really future proof it anyway!
stone current
does for me
used 2 hav bugged avatars for some reason
but ones that were proofed didnt bug
tacit plank
I had a complex shader break in the Unity 2017 update, that's essentially it
Now the right and left side of my face are different. But it doesn't look too bad
median basalt
@tacit plank that happens to Noenoe a lot
A reupload fixed it for me
Future proofing basically just uploads a package of your avatar, but it makes the model easier to steal
Apparently Tupper got his model ripped more easily that way lol
subtle prawn
oof
tacit plank
Yeah, reuploads fix it. And it was some wet ground shader I molested into becoming a "wet paint" shader. The cubemap is just a black-white edit of the AO map. I didn't even flag the normal map as a normal map, because doing so would make it look wrong.
It's a mess, but it worked, and even after the update it looks pretty cool
rigid crescent
Tons of people sadly. Next patch might fix it
spring bronze
Is it worth getting VR to experince Vrchat in its glory?
torn nebula
yes.
queen mango
VRChat may as well be the game that sold VR headsets
Considering that there's so many levels of interaction in the game that is only possible with VR
spring bronze
true
I have often wondered why there isnt a keyboard button to wave or tpying for desktop users
subtle prawn
I first got my headset just for vrchat π
queen mango
Desktop mode is just the entry level.
Though I've heard of many people like myself that are stuck there, either due to VR headsets being unavailable, or being unable to afford a VR-ready PC
spring bronze
Lucky for me i got a vr ready pc for only 1500 thanks to working for 3 weeks
I only have the money for a rift but im a bit ify on wether i should even consider VR
queen mango
You could try Windows Mixed Reality.. most of their headsets, aside from Samsung Odyssey, go around 200 to 300 dollars
Plus they use built-in cameras to track your controllers, so setting up external sensors aren't required
spring bronze
would that still work with Vrchat
vocal shard
I know another giant tank tho.. π€
subtle prawn
Turn off cloning in settings
queen mango
Which is why avatar creators go to private worlds for security..
Before they turn it off
tacit plank
Then upload as private
vocal shard
If you uploaded your own avatar, it should be private by default anyway
tacit plank
That will overwrite the menu option
queen mango
Honestly though.. uploading avatars, blue placeholder holo avatar..
It sounds a lot like the Matrix, doesn't it?
ruby burrow
Nah, matrix would be green, right? : P
tacit plank
I see a lot of slightly scifi-ish elements in VRChat
I remember having to move my head, because a virtual sun was bliding me through a hole in the ceiling
ruby burrow
I enjoy the occasional moments when cloning lets you have some quick silly fun with friends, and it's also useful for quick and easy casual testing with a friends help (Eg for testing particles that don't show in mirrors).
But at the same time it's been awful for spreading ugly spam throughout the game.
tacit plank
It's not the avatars fault as much as group behaviour and bad senses of humor
ruby burrow
And has made the performance standards emplaced on avatar worlds seem like a redundant double standard.
tacit plank
To sum it up, people are the problem
ruby burrow
True. But it helps them be the problem far far far easier.
queen mango
They make both problems and solutions for said problems..
tacit plank
Well, I think the performance limits are mostly working
But funnily enough, purples have the worst avatars. It's because they upload their own avatars, and either don't care about or don't understand performance factors
ruby burrow
No I mean that avatar worlds have strict performance standards. More strict that personal uploads.
However if I want to upload an avatar with garbage performance and some dumb meme on it, and then run around a few "Box" worlds, that avatar will be everywhere before long.
Even though it would never get approved for an avatar world.
tacit plank
for other ranks, pretty solid. I had 35 FPS in a room with 30 other players today.
They were like 14 on average, and it really showed, but at least I wasn't lagging
And that's a good point. It could happen, but I haven't personally seen it myself. Not that I'm in public much
rigid crescent
"strict performance standards" correction, NEW Avatar worlds have that standard.
tacit plank
Also, what's up with the world review process lately? I've had 20-30 FPS in rooms despite being alone
ruby burrow
It's also resulted in people that argue, "I only have a crash gun for defence or to crash 'bad' people" getting their avatars stolen and then cloned.
rigid crescent
We've still got plenty very popular worlds that break these rules that they are aware of and have taken no action against
ruby burrow
Well that's still kind of beside the point, even if older ones are getting a free pass.
tacit plank
A lot of worlds are also really small. Like a regular room, except with all 4K textures and a real time light or two to make your expensive computer seem like a toaster
ruby burrow
That kind of thing only reduces as time goes on, and all new uploads (and plenty of less popular older ones) are being held to the standard.
rigid crescent
If nothing gets done about it, how does it reduce 
ruby burrow
I know several people who have had their long existing worlds denied because of it, when attempting to update.
tacit plank
I think these were new worlds. My friends chose them, but they usually hop around to see what worlds have been made recently
ruby burrow
I should go visit some of the avatar worlds a bit more. Barely touch them lately.
I make my own stuff, but it's often good to see what others are doing.
queen mango
There's Blue-Kun's avatar world
clever shard
Hello
rigid crescent
"pretty old" wut
clever shard
blue kun?
tacit plank
At least half my friends seem to be using booth avatars lately
clever shard
I am lost rn
queen mango
Yes, I seen that.. New layout, and a new lounge room
tacit plank
Booth is a Japanese virtual item store. It's pretty cool if you think about it
clever shard
since I barely downloaded VR Chat a few days ago
tacit plank
Which part confuses you? Just ask
clever shard
I am just learning the language of the game
subtle prawn
π
rigid crescent
it's an avatar world, that's all. Blue is the person's name
clever shard
Okay, thanks
torn nebula
@tacit plank booth actually sells physical items too, just most can't be directly shipped overseas
tacit plank
Yeah, that's true
clever shard
all of you are avatar creators?
queen mango
Not all of us..
subtle prawn
olive pawn
Man I wish the devs would add in a DM system. The website looks like they're working on it but its been awhile.
rigid crescent
It'd just lead to people spamming shit
vocal shard
Does anyone know the last puzzel in the Horror Darkness Escape, with the 3 pictures of the 'ghost girls'?
we've been stuck at the last gate and can't figure it.
hollow laurel
what do i need to do to be able to build n publish?
rigid crescent
what's it say when you try and do it?
hollow laurel
it says play more before u can build n publish
hollow laurel
then how will i know when i will be able to do it?
rigid crescent
You'll get an email and possibly a little notification ingame if that's still a thing.
"New User" is the rank you need to do it as far as I know
vocal shard
what version of unity do i need to make vr chat avatars
someone said not to get the latest version
subtle prawn
2017.4.15f1
vocal shard
thanks
stone current
why is my viewpoint moved up so far wit full body
when i not use full body my viewpoint/eyes stay where they supposed to be
but when i am it gets pushed really far in front and cant even reach my face nymore
torn nebula
adjust your user real height
use openvr-advancedsettings to line up your feet, then decrease user real height to make your avatar smaller, increase to make it bigger, until your eyes line up too
note that you need to change avatars after changing user real height because it'll break the t-pose
stone current
but i used the steam vr floor fix
torn nebula
I'm not sure what you mean by "steam vr floor fix" but aligning things requires you to unfix your floor, essentially
unless your avatar matches your IRL proportions
queen mango
@violet creek But crikey.. I believe you've not chatted here for 3 months until now
Something happen?
violet creek
Bruh not sure why I even chatted here 3 months ago I havenβt played vrchat since August
vocal shard
They didnt play sweet vicorty at the super bowl
violet creek
Idk I donβt have a computer anymore and idk Iβm just active in other discordβs
vocal shard
They didnt play sweet vicorty at the super bowl
violet creek
^
queen mango
Oof..
queen mango
Jeez..
May I suggest letting it easy on the capslock key?
violet creek
But they didnβt play sweet victory
queen mango
Also, this ain't the right channel for this
vocal shard
They didnt play sweet victory at the vrchat superbowl stream
fathom elbow
got a headache from playing vrchat today
but it was still fun
also this one dude crashed my entire computer somehow
vocal shard
can anyone reference me to some unity guides for creating avatars and adding animations? Im new to all of this
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt
queen mango
If you haven't restarted VRChat yet, copy the entire output log, then send it over to moderation@vrchat.com
There are some general tips to send a report, over #moderation-reports. Try looking it up
sweet belfry
Why disable eyetracking???? When will it come back?
opaque hawk
isn't it just broken
meager solstice
its fixed in the beta @sweet belfry
rough pulsar
It's funny how almost exactly a year ago eye tracking broke in full body and they said they'd fixed it
rough flax
!playercount
umbral reef
Look to the right
rough flax
umbral reef
The bot also shows the playercount without having to use that command
umbral reef
Eyo
vocal shard
Hey there ^^
bright needle
π
ruby burrow
Eye tracking is reportedly disabled for security reasons. May sound bizarre, but from what I've been told it was a major one.
Like, allowing file writing access, kind of major, not just petty crash the game stuff.
So it will be back when whatever weird loophole that was is gone.
In the meantime MMD users can use the illusionary eye tracking method if they want.
Or people with spherical eyes can use Vilars eye tracking shader.
vocal shard
It's apparently back in the beta, so it looks like they figured out the security issue.
raven mulch
how long is the beta gonna be up for? 
umbral reef
When* they slapped enough bugs out of the build
raven mulch
fair enough 
atomic swallow
Aka. 3 hours an then they push it anyway... like most of the times?
vocal shard
it's usually up for a few days-week. it was just the last couple that were quick because it already had private beta testing
rigid crescent
"most of the time" imagine lying on the internet
vocal shard
rigid crescent
Private testing that had plenty of known issues and public testing that revealed more still unfixed ones. Somehow the "most tested" update managed to be the one that messed up the most lol
vocal shard
They have the fix for current major security exploit but they wont implement it
rigid crescent
isn't it in the beta
vocal shard
it should be on live
theres no point having it on the beta version since its just going to break the game on live anyways as usual
i dont see the point of a beta version of the game they should push everything on the live version
umbral oracle
You've obviously never been on a real development team. π
Oh the stuff programmers will shove out to the release branch without testing
vocal shard
"REAL DEVELOPMENT TEAM"
beta finds so many bugs. if everything was pushed straight to live, it would be a mess. it's also a way to have a controlled environment to test
are you meming
umbral oracle
Beta is there for a reason
umbral oracle
Often beta testing is closed, and vrchat has been going that route for some features
vocal shard
are you new to vrchat ?
rigid crescent
lol even AAA games have betas, hello
vocal shard
it doesn't just sit there to go an try out a preview. the point is to use beta to find the issued. the beta chat is always full of reports where the team then takes it and tunes it before live. sure live break a bit, but without beta would be terrible
time to block all the normies
umbral oracle
I get you're probably making a point that vrchat is early access and has plenty of bugs even with their current development approach
rigid crescent
It's just Kuro saying dumb stuff as usual lol
umbral oracle
But it would be oh so much worse without a beta
rigid crescent
No point in a beta, just push everything to live one by one as it's fixed
best logic right there LOL
vocal shard
dw mic is covering up for me to keep you normies in the dark dw about it
umbral oracle
Also doing incremental bugfix releases is a huge strain on a devteam
torn nebula
ah, continuous deployment. that only works if you spend the time to build a good unit and integration test framework, and I've never heard of a games dev shop that does
kinda hard too since a lot of time "correct behavior" is subjective
vocal shard
im just saying dumb stuff as usual
umbral oracle
Also true. Beta helps get real user feedback. It's sometimes possible to miss things that aren't bugs in a technical sense
vocal shard
π
torn nebula
anyway continuous deployment isn't crazy but it requires you to aggressively automate your testing
rigid crescent
The issue isn't so much with having a beta, it's issues found in the beta being pointed out and ignored.
umbral oracle
"Also true" - not intended as a reply to you kuro. Really sorry about the timing there
torn nebula
which is a difficult balance to strike - you need to spend a lot of effort on your test suite, especially when you're first getting started with CD
umbral oracle
You are asking a valid question
vocal shard
normies dont need to know what they dont need to know
kuro talks about beta like he knows it all, and called everyone normies who disagrees, yet has never spoken in the beta chat
nice
drop it
torn nebula
and more so when you're building client software, which has to run on who knows what systems
or you can draft an army of unpaid QA testers for free
vocal shard
the users submit the security fixes
vocal shard
we dont talk about those things
umbral oracle
Oh my don't even get started on user submitted security "fixes"
inner cape
imagine taking kuro seriously
rigid crescent
Oh good point
vocal shard
dw about it im just making these up
rigid crescent
I haven't been around as much so I forget who to just ignore
vocal shard
i actually thought he blocked me about a month ago for no reason
rigid crescent
The downside to blocking him is that I can't make sure people know he's either lying intentionally or making things up on the spot, so bad info can get spread
inner cape
blocking is weird
vocal shard
it doesnt even block properly
rigid crescent
Yeah, sadly you still see the fact they posted to begin with.
tiny ginkgo
The best solution is to block people mentally. Then it's like they don't even exist.
vocal shard
i love it when people come into a room and block everyone who has particles on them
odd thing to love
inner cape
but okay
umbral oracle
Well hide avatar might make more sense true. But there's a lag bug that makes it hard to get that menu to show so you sometimes need to go through the social menu. I wish they would fix that issue
vocal shard
not realy i dont like it nor does any1 else who gets discriminated against just becauise people cant move their head in a mirror at 90 fps
rigid crescent
Doing things with the intent to disrupt 100% deserves a block.
inner cape
you drop to 45 in front of a mirror even in an empty room anyway
rigid crescent
On a bad map typically, yeah.
vocal shard
so blocking the entire room because you dont get 90 frames looking at yourself
rigid crescent
No one's blocking the entire room, you're exaggerating.
Unless they're on a potato of course.
umbral oracle
Potato user here
rigid crescent
and if they are why do you care? They just blocked the entire room, now they're alone.
vocal shard
i dont care about normies
queen mango
You're looking at me.. I'm using a laptop
inner cape
rigid crescent
But I get 90 frames routinely on the airship and firework maps that kareeda has, and that's in the mirror
umbral oracle
Well my cpu is a potato with turbo boost (i5-2500k) so half as bad
rigid crescent
and in VR, of course
inner cape
what is that, a server pc you have mic
vocal shard
still using that word
lol
rigid crescent
We had about 8 or 9 people there too, so assuming IK doesn't start dragging you down, 90 isn't hard
umbral oracle
eagerly waits for IK update
rigid crescent
no i just have a 1070 and a 7700, his maps are just optimized.
inner cape
vocal shard
they need to just implement TPOSE mode or disable dynamic bones or something
umbral oracle
Tpose mode would make for a funny april fools joke or something
Mmd dance world is almost that
rigid crescent
An optimized map can help prevent fps dropping a lot. I have a friend that routinely gets 15-20 frames even without a mirror. On the airship they could get 45, and with all the items, avatars, and other things off, they hit 90 for a bit
umbral oracle
Yes to dynamic bone disable option.
inner cape
ngl, kuro, you sound like the type of person to have over 30 mats on your avatar
inner cape
I'm impressed
rigid crescent
I scanned your avatar last time I saw you lol don't lie
rigid crescent
You were using a world avatar
umbral oracle
One for purple sunglasses, one for screenshake (just going off your profile pic)
rigid crescent
LOL
vocal shard
no screenshake
i have a general unity question. I only have Project, and Console as the only 2 tabs on the bottom left corner. No Animations tab...is there a reason why the Animations tab isnt there?
rigid crescent
Go to Windows at the top and look for Animations
that'll open the tab and you can move it where you want it to stay
vocal shard
theres a discord bot that allows you to change youyr profile photo to add effects to it
still lark
EBIP ERP? lmaoooo
inner cape
wot
vocal shard
thanks
rigid crescent
ebip what
vocal shard
if you have nitro go add notsobot to your discord server
still lark
That's their avatar name, mostly.
inner cape
rigid crescent
LOL
vocal shard
then you can generate profile photo with a screenshaek on it
inner cape
okay buddy
umbral oracle
π it is a fun effect for discord , just being silly
umbral oracle
Didn't realize so much went into it tho
vocal shard
you post the photo and type the shake command and it generates it
vocal shard
lol
long tundra
hey I assume that the models and stuff work with asset bundles, but that means that no scripts can go with the assets, right? So it there any way to include a dll file or something with your assets?
long tundra
no not that
like when you import to the game
is there any way to have scripted stuff ingame?
umbral oracle
Content you upload to vrchat cannot have scripts. However many assets are whitelisted. Is this for avatar or world
vocal shard
dynamic bones and final ik
umbral oracle
If world yes there is quite a lot of scripting possible even without script dlls
long tundra
ah ok cool
vocal shard
too much of a security risk unfortunately
long tundra
yeah I can see that
umbral oracle
For avatars, shaders give many possibilities. Combined with animator state machines and particles you can do still a lot more than you might think
still lark
If only we had cameras. :(
umbral oracle
Graphics.Blit please
still lark
That too
tiny ginkgo
I guess it takes some abstract thinking to get the things you want done.. I've seen some craazy stuff but I can't even imagine how they did it
long tundra
I think I saw someone with a gun ingame, how would that be done?
raven mulch
if you mean cameras that you can take pictures with, we have that already in VRChat 
vocal shard
animations and particles
still lark
No I mean Unity Cameras with render textures.
umbral oracle
Don't worry., that's normal. It took me a long time to stop assuming something was impossible
raven mulch
ohh
long tundra
oh that would be cool yeah @still lark
but the assets work with assetbundles, right?
vocal shard
wait... i thought we still had cameras... it was just disabled for non friends tho?
umbral oracle
Yes that makes it really undesirable to use
still lark
It's not the same Jamie. :(
vocal shard
true
umbral oracle
Also it's destroyed so you can't show even after becoming friends
vocal shard
add it to safety settings
long tundra
^
still lark
Like cached destroyed?! so you have to update the avatar or restart your client. lmao
umbral oracle
Safety settings are too buggy... they just need to prevent cameras from accessing the main display
long tundra
what if you add a script thats already in the game to a avatar or something?
umbral oracle
There is a whitelist so no
long tundra
ah ok
umbral oracle
You used to be able to, then someone added webviews and stole player cookies and all sorts of badness
long tundra
rip
umbral oracle
Whitelists are a good thing. There's a lot possible with what we have. Again worlds have access to oh so much more. You can do almost anything a real game can at this point. #world-development #event-system-sdk2
long tundra
oh ok, is there like a lua script system or something like that?
umbral oracle
Phasedragon released a time trial racing game as a world. No script programming at all sadly, but custom shaders, standard assets, triggers, animators and events can do so much
long tundra
I should learn how to write shaders 
umbral oracle
Udon scripting is being developed but don't expect it for avatars. Best we can hope for is Graphics.Blit
long tundra
I have made a lot of mods and stuff for other unity games, but I have never gotten into shaders
seems like it could be fun
umbral oracle
But custom gpu particle systems, and the minecraft shader edition world are good examples of what shaders can do
long tundra
can you add image processing and stuff like that? or just normal shaders?
oh wait I think thats done with scripts so nvm
still lark
I believe you can do some Post Processing stuff but yeah
long tundra
but a lua scripting thing for worlds could be cool
umbral oracle
They are developing udon. But I think it's still at least months away.
Also you can write and use editor scripts. Some world creators use those heavily. Basically create all the triggers and so on from code, and then the logic is basically all precomputed
long tundra
also I noticed that I cant upload things to VRChat without playing for a bunch of time, but is there any way to just try things locally or something until then?
umbral oracle
Unity play mode can test most things (avatars) for worlds you should be able to do test builds since those don't get uploaded
But the 10 hours of vrchat time goes fast. Gives you a chance to understand more about the community and explore a bit while you can still work on content just not upload yet
It's a bit of a commitment but try not to let it get in the way. Vrchat has more to offer than just a content platform (do browse other worlds to see what people have made. Lots of amazing stuff out there)
long tundra
ah ok thx for all the help π
umbral oracle
For testing emotes or gestures, you can drag the override controller into the animator controller slot in play mode. For gestures, You need to create a left hand and right hand mask, apply those to the left and right hand layers and set the weights to 1
That mask thing is just a small sdk omission but easy to fix yourself
And you can test vr by going to Edit -> Player Settings and dragging openvr to the top of virtual reality apis
long tundra
π
vocal shard
lol in the middle of a project and unity decides to crash
vocal shard
if your project folder is massive you might want to make a new 1
vocal shard
its fine, it saved my project right before the crash luckily
long tundra
nice
vocal shard
i wish unity was more simplistic. So much just to do simple things
long tundra
idk I dont think its that complicated, what are you doing thats so complicated?
vocal shard
trying to get an audio clip to play when i use a gesture or a emote
ive been watching tons of youtube guides but i can never hear it in game
long tundra
you can change the active states of GameObjects in animations
inner cape
how can a game engine get any simpler, unity is already simple as hecc
vocal shard
i almost want to pay someone to make me an avatar lol
inner cape
don't
vocal shard
have to spend hours and hours to learn the whole system
long tundra
so I think you can add your particles to a disabled GameObject and just enable it somewhere in your animation
inner cape
^
vocal shard
all the guides say to put the audio in the hand bone in armatures, and then make a duplicate, make the original invisible, then go to animations, create, add the hand bones for the property then add the audio, I put it at 10 seconds, but i honestly am confused after that
i know how to place it in the gestures or the emote
but i dont think its reading the sound itself
like when i look at the audio clip i created, it doesnt show any waves like the others do
as if its silent or something
long tundra
huh I think just having a GameObject thats disabled and has a AudioClip on it and then just enable the GameObject from a animation should work
oh wait its silent in the editor?
vocal shard
ok, im gonna do a quick rebuild and ill let you know what i find
the guy in the video used a prop animation and put the audiosource on it
spring bronze
I got a question
When you use Vrchat VR height for yourself when using a VR headset does it change the size of the model on the outside so that its at your actual irl height for other players or is it just a pov for you
rough pulsar
Your avatar's size in the world does not change, it does some baffling math to scale vrchat around you.
vocal shard
im just gonna call it for a night and try again tomorrow. One headache after another
rough pulsar
If your avatar has the correct proportions setting your real world height correctly in the settings will make everything in vrchat scale correctly.
spring bronze
So you wont be your actual height to other players...
rough pulsar
No, if you want to be your actual height you'll need to make an avatar that's scaled up (or down) to your height.
rough pulsar
Make the model, rig it, get it in unity, configure textures & materials, set it up for vrchat, upload.
We've got several avatar related channels for help in that whole process, but that's the general idea.
spring bronze
ah ok
finite kraken
What voice changer works well with vive users in VRchat? Plus how does Kimble do her robotic sound
vocal shard
Watch the mega guide on YouTube pretty helpful
Oh Le seigneur sent that msg an hour ago
vocal shard
I'm thinking about changing my VRChat nametag from OhWell to either DontTrustALoliWithAGun or CallMeUwU
umbral oracle
UwU sounds like OhWell
vocal shard
What do you think of DontTrustALoliWithAGun?
umbral oracle
You're going to be wearing that nametag for 3 months. Make sure that's what you want. You can practice with your discord alias
vocal shard
Well I can change my name through steam at anytime and it changes in VRChat
umbral oracle
Oh. You're on steam account? Also I've heard reports it doesn't always change vrchat
But you'll probably want a vrchat account someday
vocal shard
If I need to I'll just uninstall then reinstall my VRChat
And then it will change while keeping everything saved
umbral oracle
Not sure it works that way. The account data including friend lists is stored on vrchat servers
vocal shard
Honestly I like both names though
Just trying to decide which is better so I want third party opinions
umbral oracle
They are quite different . DontTrust is hard to say so people will just call you Dont which has a bit of negative connotation. So be prepared for that. I'd suggest doing something not as negative sounding
vocal shard
True but DontTrustALoliWithAGun is also funny
rigid crescent
names have limits
umbral oracle
Funny yes but this is the name you may have to keep. Oh yeah also that
They get cut off and that can look awkward
rigid crescent
and all a name like that will do is make people thing "uhhhh what do i call you?" and not laugh like....at alll
"hey do i call you trust?" "hey do i call you loli?" "hey what should i call you?"
stoic halo
its awkward when people called me bean
then realizing my boyfriend's name. is also bean
vocal shard
The reactions are part if the fun in my opinion
rigid crescent
that's dimensions funnier than "dont trust a loli with a gun"
vocal shard
Yeah how people react when they see my name. If they get confused it amuses me
rigid crescent
uhhh then sure i guess?
stoic halo
if you want confusion
rigid crescent
that's...weird
stoic halo
get one of those. models with the fake blank nameplate
rigid crescent
they're really not as confused as you think lol they just want ot know what to refer to you as
vocal shard
But then there's also the second option "CallMeUwU" which is cute and has a small splice of humor
rigid crescent
none of these are as funny as you think tbh
they'll literally just call you owo and then everyone will owo and it'll get really old really fast
vocal shard
I chose those two names because they both fit my Avatar pretty well
rigid crescent
just use whatever handle you normally use, that's what most people do
vocal shard
I don't have a usual one. I like to change things and experiment
OhWell used to be RelaxedGamer83 and RelaxedGamer83 used to be Cela_Nobrag83
I've also used names like Oatmealrasin, TDoll, Luni, and OkamiChan83
I've also used different aliases like Adrianna, Riley, Eve and Max
There's also Addison and a whole bunch of others that I've used
covert linden
Im always ashs so I dont confuse people
And my irl name is Rea, so I get that, Ray, Raya, And any of those work too but theyre just said by my friends
If you swap names a lot people are liklier to forgetcha
stoic halo
also PSA: The Box has a bug which could cause vrvhat to crash when people join
it gets worse the more people there are in the world
umbral oracle
You sure it's not just the box stereotype that people like to hang out there and crash others?
stoic halo
i was in friends+
every time someone joined me and 3 other people would freeze
until we switched worlds
other people had the issue too
i think its dependent on how long the instance was running for too
like with presentation room+
umbral oracle
Did someone go mashing button triggers in the past. Could be a bug with some buffered triggers
umbral reef
Can also just be performance capping with unoptimized avatars
stoic halo
yeah buffered triggers probably
its something with the world
because it stopped when we went to a new world
umbral oracle
Shouldn't freeze people. Triggers are usually the cause but also I thought that usually only affects the joiner not others...unless the world has badly designed triggers that rebroadcast to everyone else
stoic halo
idk what it was
it was super wack
everytime someone joined i went into steamvr loading
bf locked up and my friend azure did too
covert linden
I get thqt in some worlds, usually just when people load in
vale palm
@stoic halo its the video stream thing in the box that does it, as soon as someone turns it on it'll lag for everyone once someone joins
umbral oracle
box added video players?
vale palm
Pretty sure that was the issue last time i talked with someone about it.
umbral oracle
that world is already scary enough to visit without an extra laggy thing to mess with :0
stoic halo
oh huh i didn't know someone had that on
stone current
al the lag free place end up laggin more than evry other place simply by playr count and trolls
at least in public wurld
vale palm
That world is always scary to visit cause its where most kiddos n "modified client" users hang out
umbral oracle
Box definitely fits the horror genre more than any other map
stone current
xd
vale palm
Mhm why visit the Silent Hill PT Map when you can just visit the box
stoic halo
thats why u never goto public box
still lark
I sometimes hop boxes for fun, counting all the modified client users.
languid beacon
How do you tell?
quiet prawn
1 box 2 box, all I see are lag box
median basalt
Modded client users are pretty easy to spot, generally they have super stable flight or they disconnect you as soon as you block them
plush cove
hello
languid beacon
Can modded clients see if I have turned their avatar off rather than block them
As long as I do not block or mute they should not be able to tell right
Wish we still had individual volume sliders. 0 volume was a nice sneaky way to mute without sending it over the network
Avatar hidden, and voice at 0.000001% , volume, but totally not blocked tho nope nope nope
tidal aspen
just look for hats and guns with rimlighting xd
still lark
@languid beacon Yup, they can tell if you hide their avatar. AFAIK no client does though
vocal shard
Anyone know the Arnold Schwazenegger using crutches?
I'm asking cuz that avatar has a animation of him falling to the floor, i'll like to know form where is the sound of the hit
torn nebula
it's impossible to prevent - you have to send your avatar data to someone in order for them to see it
vocal shard
If you're worried about avatar theft, don't use it in public right now. And watermark your avatar picture
hasty wedge
they can change the picture
grave dagger
Its just the normal cycle of hackers, VRChat devs will patch it out, things will be calm for a bit until they find the next security hole. Lather, Rinse, Repeat
rich reef
Yeah, u can turn off "Alow Copying" thing
but shouldnt that have no affect on private models, even if its on?
ppl shouldnt be able to duplicate private models
torn nebula
the basic problem is you have to send all the interesting parts of the avatar data to someone for them to do the local rendering/dynamic bones simulation/IK/etc. and at that point they can turn around and reupload them. fixing that would require DRM, and much better-funded companies have failed to solve that one
polar elm
What about some type of encryption
tacit plank
They download the unity package and reupload it
They will likely not be able to do it remotely, but if you join a room that they're in, you're fucked. Private or not
umbral reef
Also at one point you will need to decrypt the files so...
wise trench
So when will they fix the "small update with security fixes" with people stealing avatars SMH
austere burrow
being an apologist isn't the way to fix the problem
it's a glaring flaw regardless of how serious it is
hasty wedge
but it cant be avoided 
umbral reef
It can kinda though- But not as easy as people claim it
austere burrow
it can, the issue is can they fix it without breaking everything else in the process
umbral reef
And only to a degree then
wise trench
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 6169 users in VRChat currently
stone current
ruby needle
just download the newest of the website
willow flume
is full body tracking with the xbox 360 kinect good
queen mango
Pretty poor
willow flume
but it works right
queen mango
Yea.. but the other issue would be space.
willow flume
well what about xbox one kinect
queen mango
Better than Xbox 360, but much less so than Nolo VR
raven mulch
from experience the xbox 360 kinect is okay at best if you can't afford anything else
meager solstice
i mean u still run into the probelm of space and tracking with both
raven mulch
then again setting up the thing was a nightmare, so i don't really recommend using it
willow flume
i have some space to work with
vocal shard
I'd say it depends on what you want to use it for. If you plan on doing heavy dancing, and turning a lot, the best thing to get is the VIVE with three trackers. But if you're going to be kinda laid back and not moving much but just casually, the Nolo/Kinect are okay.
bitter bridge
Hello
vocal shard
Hi
sudden gull
In regards to the hacking thereβs a program where they can literally steal in in game and it uploads to their vrc account with shaders and animations
So what do people do generally do just deal with it ?
covert linden
It is what it is
bitter bridge
Whats up
sudden gull
I feel ya
analog hull
guys, can someone check if your eye tracking are working?
umbral reef
Stuffs broken untill the next update
So just sit tight and get a water bottle to keep them eyes hydrated
analog hull
fuck, and i kept updating my avatar thinking i fucked something xD
queen mango
Eye tracking's disabled until the next live build comes along
queen mango
Yea, I know.. just clearing things up
floral aspen
yeah it only needs one person. Heck, it's possible to kick yourself from a world lol
spring bronze
Just a thought but anyone think that with vrchat we will see tank game modes and battle royale or is that to complex my desire is vrchat over throws gmod
opaque hawk
It certainly sounds possible
tacit plank
VRChat has quite a delay, so some games won't work too well. Besides that, most things are possible if you have the Unity skill
They're also working on a system to allow for more complex worlds
opaque hawk
There are a few skilled creators who are working on games like that. Itβs a ton of work so donβt expect them be come out in the near future. Itβs a ton of work so a lot of world creators get serious burnout. Iβve already gotten burnout on my adventure map twice.
edgy storm
3 hours into the world VERHACK. Got 43/50 golden coins, 5/7 green coins and all the mix tapes / infos except the last 2. I have no idea what the secret/encoded message translates to in one of the infos.
tranquil perch
i really want to try more on that world. For some reason i always seem to get progressivly worse frames the longer im in that world. Still not sure what triggered the giant floating coin
queen mango
Hello there
tacit plank
"secret messages" are almost always simple medieval ciphers (Like A=1, B=2, C=3) or "A=B, B=C, C=D)
opaque hawk
I popped into my avatar world because it seems people have been consistently going there. Like one person in one of my avatars the rest just hanging out. Meanwhile my hangout world is practically empty.
tacit plank
It's difficult to guess the popularity, or even use, of a world
Sometimes people will stay for 30 minutes just trying to stack a tower of your world props or something..
velvet gull
Switch to vive or stay with oculus π€
velvet gull
Eventually yes
rough pulsar
@velvet gull when valve's knuckles come out, yeah, switch. Even the dev units are impressively good, despite all their shortcomings.
velvet gull
Solidified release date for the knuckles yet?
rough pulsar
Nope, sadly. :/
velvet gull
Yeah, I mean, vive would still be an upgrade
rigid crescent
Can video players only play youtube links, or is there a room that can do dropbox/google drive ones?
velvet gull
Tracking on oculus isn't too great
rough pulsar
@rigid crescent If youtube-dl can handle the url the players should be able to play it
rigid crescent
Hm, is there a way outside the game to find out?
rough pulsar
Ooh in fact, https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/supportedsites.html
ruby needle
@velvet gull Tracking on the oculus is just as good if you use the apropriate sensor setups for intendet usages
rough pulsar
To test you could download & run youtube-dl on your local machine and see if it gets an mp4 file successfully
velvet gull
I figured I'd just resell my oculus and pick up a vive tbh
I can just use revive for oculus exclusives
near crypt
If anyone ever has issues with VRCHIVE panorama, let me know through here. I made VRCHIVE. FYI the photos appear here https://vrchive.com/all and while streaming directly to your own account is supported by VRCHIVE, it isn't yet supported in VRChat. (this is more for anyone searching "vrchive" in here than people right now)
ruby needle
which hmd everyone preferes is still pure preference.
i personally would never get a vive to have a worse mic, shitty controllers and a worse lens.
near crypt
There are NOT issues 99.9% of the time when using VRCHIVE panorama capture/streaming
velvet gull
How are the lens' worse?
near crypt
So helping me find out when the 0.1% happens helps
ruby needle
the default lenses are not as great
thats on of the reasons people put in Gear VR lenses insted
rough pulsar
It's possible to do hybrid setups thanks to steamvr being able to run multiple VR drivers together, but the different tracking universes need to be aligned and they drift out of alignment pretty easy
velvet gull
Exactly
rough pulsar
Whereas a pure-lighthouse system is always together in alignment. So if you're planning to switch to a vive you'll wind up with a better experience overall with not having to fuck around with it to make sure everything is aligned.
velvet gull
Hence why my only viable option for full body with the oculus is Nolo
rigid crescent
Hm, it says google drive works, is there a particular link format?
velvet gull
Better off asking in #user-support-old
But yeah, I guess I'll switch when the paycheck rolls in
Only had this thing a couple weeks too lol
median basalt
Lotta devs online, is something about to happen?
hardy seal
i bought a wmr headset i found a "new"(hopefully) open box one on ebay just to see if i like vr
and if i do ill probably get a vive down the road
vocal shard
Ooh nice.
hardy seal
$200
vocal shard
It's actually a good one.
stone current
the rift is selling for like $250 in some places
but mostly around $300 and the official $349.99
hardy seal
well i was looking for deals just couldnt find any on the rift that got it down around my budget
vocal shard
just checked ebay. Almost every used rift is $300+. Only ones around $250 are still in auction bidding
velvet gull
Probably should've bought a WMR to try vr tbh seeing as I'll be switching to a vive soonβ’
Could've saved some money
vocal shard
π€ you're switching from what?