vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:37 AM

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someone should just develop actual trackers and sensors for lower body

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 2:37 AM

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they do have those. IT's called a motion capture suit

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:37 AM

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does it work with steam vr

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The oculus isn't able to support more trackers due to the bandwidth

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They would need something new

crisp ruin Dec 22, 2018, 2:38 AM

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i like the oculus controllers but i have to admit vive does tracking better

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:38 AM

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lmao

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 2:38 AM

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https://www.rokoko.com/en/products/smartsuit-pro you can rent one

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:38 AM

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so youre saying that hip trackers not once have they decided to fly across the room because a wire passed over

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:38 AM

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I remember perceptive neuron suits. Things were ridiculous. - That's only that variety of suit though.

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:38 AM

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thats never happened to anyone you know that uses vive

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And kuro, im a big oculus fan.. but you have to be fair on some points

crisp ruin Dec 22, 2018, 2:39 AM

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^

rigid crescent Dec 22, 2018, 2:39 AM

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Ah it's kuro nvm

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:39 AM

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fudgeshrug

rigid crescent Dec 22, 2018, 2:39 AM

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l8r, im tapping outta this one 👌

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:39 AM

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Yeah

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 2:39 AM

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me too. I GOT AVATARS TO OPTIMIZE!

safe furnace Dec 22, 2018, 2:39 AM

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Is drunk vrchar fun, asking for a friend obc

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:39 AM

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you guys are so delusional that youve never seen any of your FBT friends have thier hip trackers glitch even once

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 2:40 AM

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@safe furnace DUUUUUDDDEEE drunk vrchat is HELLA fun

safe furnace Dec 22, 2018, 2:40 AM

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Where do I go

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 2:40 AM

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it makes it more real and you forget your in vr

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:40 AM

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Claim was never that trackers never glitch; claim was tracking accuracy between Valve and Oculus' solutions.

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:40 AM

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Every full body tracking glitches. Kinect, nolo, psvr, trackers. From what I've seen though, trackers are the most accurate

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 2:41 AM

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the hip flying out is a steam vr problem

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:41 AM

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no its the vive bases

safe furnace Dec 22, 2018, 2:41 AM

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I wanna go somewhere fun with good people but public world's seem cancerous

crisp ruin Dec 22, 2018, 2:41 AM

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vive trackers definitely work best but they arent always perfect. stuff like 2.4 gHz wifi can interfere

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:41 AM

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That's some intense pelvic thrusting dood

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 2:41 AM

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I've done Dev for vive. The raw data the trackers is on point

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:41 AM

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i use 5 ghz wifi

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 2:41 AM

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it's a steam vr issue

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:42 AM

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i disabled my 2ghz

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which channel do the vive trackers use on the 2,4 band

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:42 AM

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@earnest vortex Didn't you work on that CoolCat animation a while back?

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:43 AM

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a b and c is not a 2.4ghz channel btw

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 2:43 AM

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@near sky yes that was me. Im the same guy who also does the youtube stuff

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@near sky VRCHAT is my new venture in character animation. I wantted to see how far I can push the character animation in this new medium. It's been really fun and challenging

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Cool

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:45 AM

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@earnest vortex Ahaa~ I've seen your name around a good bit. A few of your older animations too. Good stuff, man! 👊 Kudos.

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Interested in what you're managing; new medium gives a lot more room

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 2:46 AM

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👉 😎 👉 thanks @near sky you should see my shiba character i've made. I did a lot with the facial expressions https://youtu.be/tgdBoce3OVA

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:47 AM

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I feel like I'm watching a fever dream

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I love it nepSmug

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:48 AM

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okay, so I just logged into vrchat after the update and it's so laggy I can't do hardly anything

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 2:48 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/442444657428004866/525867124682653728/2Q.png

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:49 AM

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XD

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:50 AM

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@earnest vortex I see what you mean with facial detail; I'm liking the way you've done your visemes -you're managing to keep the tooniness through it. I don't think that's a word but fudgeshrug Kudos.

rigid crescent Dec 22, 2018, 2:50 AM

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You know, that would be funny, but it makes perfect sense.

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:51 AM

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Animation principles at work I haven't yet picked up

rigid crescent Dec 22, 2018, 2:51 AM

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Ranking is inaccurate. People who don't understand the numbers will think it's accurate.

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mash both buttons.

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 2:51 AM

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thanks! I had a lot more cool stuff on my avatars like a delorian taking off https://clips.twitch.tv/SmoggyEasyTigerSoBayed

but then the update happened....

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:52 AM

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@rigid crescent I think you're right on that.

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I've just used the ranking as an excuse to go back and hyper-optimize

neon flume Dec 22, 2018, 2:53 AM

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Adeon that's too accurate 😆

rigid crescent Dec 22, 2018, 2:53 AM

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I use it as a guide to help find who is likely causing the issue, but still cross reference with the numbers

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:53 AM

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before i come back, i just feel like optimizing. Lol

rigid crescent Dec 22, 2018, 2:53 AM

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your 80k polys isnt doing to me what your 2.5k collision are

stone current Dec 22, 2018, 2:54 AM

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cough cough

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562k polys and 130 skined meshes

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thinko thinko thinko thinko

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:56 AM

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@stone current Excuse me. 130 skinned meshes. gifshock I think I'm reducing mine from 12.

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@earnest vortex How much of your stuff did the version shift break? I know most particles ended up needing a rework, animations weren't quite playing the same. I've stuck to one avatar since. Took most of my mates a good bit to get things up and going again.

rigid crescent Dec 22, 2018, 2:57 AM

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How can you even get to 130 skinned meshes lol

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 2:57 AM

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In an attempt to set a world record.

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Or something, man -geez

neon flume Dec 22, 2018, 2:58 AM

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A poly in every mesh and a dynamic script on every bone!

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 2:58 AM

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For an avatar that can kill your game?

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200 skinned meshes, when you want to bring your frames from 90 to 20 in the blink of an eye

covert linden Dec 22, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Theyre aiming for that sexy 11fps ;)

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You know its good when you can count each frame

neon flume Dec 22, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Cinematic 24 is where it's at

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eyes can't see ... etc etc

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Lol

rigid crescent Dec 22, 2018, 3:00 AM

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"VRPill HATES him! Find out his this Trusted User sneaks 294 Skinned Mesh Renders into a Pug by himself!"

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 3:00 AM

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I need that cinematic 24fps VR experience

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Any more and I get sicc

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:01 AM

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I remember a video where it was the same shot, one in 24 an one at 60.
The comments were "the 24 looks like a movie. The 60 looks like it was filmed by an amateur in their phone"

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Im going to use seperate by material and then export to fbx without combining anything

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😏

stone current Dec 22, 2018, 3:02 AM

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use blenddodod

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:02 AM

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imma subdivide it and create random material layers

stone current Dec 22, 2018, 3:03 AM

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give it 839k polygons

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Why....

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 3:03 AM

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jevildance CHAOS CHAOS

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:03 AM

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add multiple dynamic bone scripts and just stack hair meshes and bones on each other

neon flume Dec 22, 2018, 3:04 AM

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Heh I ran into someone with around 140k polys. I know it doesn't affect performance much, I was just wondering where all those polys went because they looked pretty much the same to me.

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:04 AM

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ill just be hair

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 3:04 AM

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Arbitrary, unlinked dynamic bones

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:04 AM

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dont even need a body... ill just be hair

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make my body out of hair meshes

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each finger will be a hair mesh etc

sullen escarp Dec 22, 2018, 3:04 AM

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be sure to also subdivide all your bones several times for extra realism

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:05 AM

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i wonder how laggy it would be except i would only test it in desktop mode

near sky Dec 22, 2018, 3:07 AM

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This is some kind of c y b e r - t e r r o r i s m

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:07 AM

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dw

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ill put them inside an empty game object😏

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 3:07 AM

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emilthink YokoThink

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23,187 total dynbones.. courtesy of a single VEXCO avatar

sullen escarp Dec 22, 2018, 3:10 AM

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i mean really every vertex needs its own bone, gotta go for maximum mesh control

umbral oracle Dec 22, 2018, 3:11 AM

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If that's what you want, may as well go for cloth at this point

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:11 AM

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do both

sullen escarp Dec 22, 2018, 3:11 AM

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^^

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dynamic bone AND cloth = maximum realism

umbral oracle Dec 22, 2018, 3:12 AM

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Cloth 50% strength and weighted to a bone for each vertex simulated with dynbone

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 3:12 AM

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BUT, your frames drop to 11.

sullen escarp Dec 22, 2018, 3:12 AM

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also need 3 shapekeys per vertex for even more vertex control

umbral oracle Dec 22, 2018, 3:13 AM

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I don't think that number ever shows anything below 11

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 3:13 AM

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AND, your RAM starts leaking.

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YokoRip

sullen escarp Dec 22, 2018, 3:14 AM

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that's how you know you're doing it right

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 3:20 AM

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vaywoke

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Deffo so

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Huh.. I rummaged through some of the feature request cannies, and I found one regarding introducing guilds into VRChat.

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It was a year ago, and is planned.

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 3:29 AM

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@near sky Hi mute!! to answer your question for almost an hour ago. MOST animation overides broke. But not all because i animated some scenes completly in 3ds max under one rig then brought that in as a clip. Those did not break.

I've worked in the mobile gaming industry for years. so im used to optimizing the shit out of my animation clips cause dealing with the mobile chipset. you REAAAAAALLLLY have to pay attentioin to the number of draw calls the device is going to make

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like building an entire environment conference room. but it has to be 5,200 tris

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 3:31 AM

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wow

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 3:32 AM

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yeah..... in the gaming industry. but MORE OPTIMIZED is actually the cooler thing to do.

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 3:33 AM

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Anyone else feel like this avatar ranking system is so strict that optimizing avatars is a waste of time. I have 13 materials 2 coliders and 2 dynamic bones and I'm still at a poor ranking. Like why bother optimizing if I just get poor anyway.

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 3:33 AM

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You gotta try harder..

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cirnoShrug

earnest vortex Dec 22, 2018, 3:33 AM

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you all are doing game dev with vrchat. congrats kids. 👉 😎 👉

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 3:34 AM

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The only way to improve this is to get rid of my dynamic bones and 2 colliders completely but I can't do that I have a tail and longer hair.

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I like that all it takes is 2 dynamic bones and 2 colliders and BAM very poor.

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 3:35 AM

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Oof. YokoSweat

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Without it its a good model apparently. I have checked the stats and its all green except materials which is yellow but if all it takes is 2 dynamic bones and 2 coliders I'm not gonna go back into blender again. Its not worth my time

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:37 AM

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🤔 you can have dynamic bones and 4 colliders and be medium... So there must be something specific bringing you down to very poor

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 3:38 AM

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There isnt and I double checked its just poor.

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not very poor

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:39 AM

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How many dynamic bones is it though? 32 is medium. More than that is poor

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 3:39 AM

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Hmm.. you checked your ava. perf. stats?

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You may know which is red 2bthink

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 3:40 AM

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Well obviously I checked dude and its collision check 65 that brings me down

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:40 AM

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Ah

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 3:40 AM

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again dynamic bones I said this

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and coliders

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which is just 2

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:41 AM

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I wasn't trying to disagree, i was just thinking of ways to maybe bring it up

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 3:41 AM

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Big hog though.. dynbone colliders double the total no. of dynbones.. YokoSweat

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 3:42 AM

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The only way to bring it up is to get rid of my dynamic bones and 2 coliders. Both are 2 each

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Tail and Hair

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Yeah, the max collisions is 8 for medium

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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Everything else is bright green so if all it takes is 2 dynamic bones and 2 coliders I'm not gonna bother. Also how does one lower the collision check? Get rid of the coliders I assume

dawn tree Dec 22, 2018, 3:44 AM

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are the servers slow or is it just me right now?

vast tulip Dec 22, 2018, 3:44 AM

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hows everyone doing today? :>

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:45 AM

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The collisions is how many bones the coliders can affect i think. I wouldn't worry about it. They said that eventually the system will rate more accurately by averages and not just by the lowest rating

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The issue with the current system is if we go into public worlds we could very easily get blocked because of the poor ranking

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Thats good to hear. The system needs to rate on averages not the lowest value. Still early access I guess. I was just wondering because as it currently stands I see no reason to go back into blender if I'm gonna be poor rank anyway

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:47 AM

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Yeah, i get ya

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 3:47 AM

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My model runs well and I know this. Thats all I care about at the end of the day

ebon plank Dec 22, 2018, 3:47 AM

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Anyone else having trouble gettin on VRchat?

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 3:47 AM

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I was yesterday.

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:48 AM

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Yeah i think there was an announcement that there were login issues

ebon plank Dec 22, 2018, 3:48 AM

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Like, it loads to log me in, then restartes and loads again

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and i cant get in

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 3:48 AM

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Yea.. I was thinking of avatar rating calculated to the average mean of all ratios.

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Well, total ratio.. if that's right...

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Avg. mean = sum ÷ count

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YokoStress

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Speaking of that.. There's supposed to be a ratio range within the perf. stats where an avatar can be listed according to its avg. ratio

timid heron Dec 22, 2018, 4:04 AM

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The avatar rating makes a lot of avatar's world gotten reported & taken down :/
Ppl reporting world because of its poor rating on the avatar's colliders/dynamic bones .-.

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:06 AM

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Yeah... I think they are trying to get us to use less and less dyna bones/colliders

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So we have better overall performance across the board

timid heron Dec 22, 2018, 4:07 AM

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Yea but the avatar would just look meh. Did you check the default vrc avatar ? Got some poor rating too xD

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:07 AM

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Yeah those are funny. Lol

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 4:08 AM

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I don't think the devs care how bad avatars look without dynamic bones and what not. Have you seen the default models lol

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Wait what

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Which default models got poor ratings?

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:08 AM

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I don't know the name... Sue is it?

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And some others. Mainly too many materials

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Oh wow no kidding

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skinned meshes to apparently

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:10 AM

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most optimized model is the knuckles
XD

timid heron Dec 22, 2018, 4:10 AM

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Most of my avatar got very poor rating because of dynamic collision :/

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If i remove those, i'm unable to touch my ears, tail, hair etc

opaque remnant Dec 22, 2018, 4:11 AM

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upload one version for use in public and friends+, and another where you can touch yourself for friends and private?

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:11 AM

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Yeah I'm going to have a separate public/private version

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 4:11 AM

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If the devs hated dynamic bones and colider so much there should be a toggle to turn it off like shaders and animations for ranks

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problem solved

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:12 AM

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In the canny they said that was planned... Idk

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 4:12 AM

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Would it be integrated in the safety settings, though?

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:12 AM

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I personally love this update

shut star Dec 22, 2018, 4:13 AM

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It should be intergraded. I don't see a reason why it wouldn't be.

timid heron Dec 22, 2018, 4:13 AM

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i posted one of my fav avatar in #vrchat-pictures ...the rating x_x

jolly delta Dec 22, 2018, 4:17 AM

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Why cant i see the avatar when i turn on the avatar switch its all holohram though

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Its not loaded though tbh

opaque jewel Dec 22, 2018, 4:26 AM

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So has anyone explained why mesh colliders for like a plane is suddenly a no for avatars, but box colliders and others are just fine?

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Henlo, am new

sullen escarp Dec 22, 2018, 4:27 AM

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because mesh colliders normally get worse on higher poly models

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:27 AM

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Im on like day 5/6 of my vrchat adventure @___@

sullen escarp Dec 22, 2018, 4:27 AM

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it's fine for planes, but sticking it on like anything else = death

opaque jewel Dec 22, 2018, 4:28 AM

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The plane uses a mesh collider.

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this update seems to just screw up everything it seems

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:33 AM

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Can't seem to access VRChat 🤔 perhaps the traffic is high or I am banned
which I doubt as I keep myself to only my friends.

jolly delta Dec 22, 2018, 4:34 AM

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Anyone?... the loading avatar just broke abit when im in a world and when i turn on the avatar it broke prob like there all blue hologram avatar

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:35 AM

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@vocal shard so does it loop the login thing

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go upvote this https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/cant-even-login-now-201844

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yeah it does it

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hell I even got a crash error before the update

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so before this happened did you also have the but whre you had to use the vrchat website to switch worlds to join people

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They should just blacklist dynamic bones then

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4head

neon mesa Dec 22, 2018, 4:45 AM

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Can someone explain to me what a dynamic bone transform is compared to the dynamic bone component? I feel it it's related to the amount of polys being moved but I'm not 100% sure

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:46 AM

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Doesnt matter just use the grey alien model that ron uses

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 4:46 AM

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"Can't even log in now" lmao

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:46 AM

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Then youll be optimized

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 4:46 AM

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Someone tried to pass off the Avatar Cloning system as the reason

neon mesa Dec 22, 2018, 4:46 AM

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Not really what what im asking but ok

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:47 AM

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So people can report badly optimized avatars

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 4:47 AM

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Anyway, Squiz, I wasn't talking about you

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:47 AM

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Might as well use a quad that has a photo of your main avatar as your avatar 😏

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 4:48 AM

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Kuro's got the right idea

neon mesa Dec 22, 2018, 4:48 AM

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Nah nah wasnt directed at you

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:48 AM

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@neon mesa i think component is like it says the amount of times you added the component anywhere on your avatar and transform is how many bones in total its affecting

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:48 AM

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Can you even get green status if you use a single quad

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😏

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:49 AM

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yes

neon mesa Dec 22, 2018, 4:49 AM

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Oooh okay that makes sense yeah, thanks

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:49 AM

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np

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 4:49 AM

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@vocal shard What if it's a subdivided quad

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 4:49 AM

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Mind if I ask.. What time is it for you, Jerome?

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 4:49 AM

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😏

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:49 AM

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mind blown

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@queen mango its almost 6 am

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why?

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 4:50 AM

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Just asking.. YokoSweat

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:50 AM

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hmm crazyeyes

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i should probably take a nap

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 4:51 AM

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Yea.. I think you should.

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:52 AM

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ill go lay down a bit cya in a few hours

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 4:52 AM

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Sounds lIke you didn't get some good sleep there, tho.

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:52 AM

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yeah i got back from a dinner and had to finish Ruuubicks cutout and check all my messages

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kinda got sidetracked tho

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oh well

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 4:53 AM

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Holdup

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A cutout of the rubwhip himself?

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:53 AM

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ofcourse

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wanna see?

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 4:53 AM

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Hmm YokoThink

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 4:54 AM

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Elire what server are these on lmao

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 4:54 AM

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I'd like to take a peek..

@umbral nova The Bunker: (NieR: Automata)

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:54 AM

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its in 3D Modelling

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 4:54 AM

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It's a Discord server

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Hmm.. I'm curious about this Ruubick cutout.

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:56 AM

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i posted it

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in #3d-modeling

sturdy atlas Dec 22, 2018, 4:56 AM

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Is it random when you rank up past user in social tiers

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 4:57 AM

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Alright

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:57 AM

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what? @sturdy atlas

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oh

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it varies for each individual user and depends on alot of factors

rain isle Dec 22, 2018, 4:57 AM

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is there a good avatar chair guide out there yet

sturdy atlas Dec 22, 2018, 4:58 AM

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I just feel like I been user for a while now lol

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:58 AM

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@rain isle not that i know of yet no sorry but maybe @inland jay knows

sturdy atlas Dec 22, 2018, 4:58 AM

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Like ever since the update lol

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:59 AM

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it takes a while just be patient im sure you will rank up soon! patkyutie

sturdy atlas Dec 22, 2018, 5:00 AM

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I mean I have like 500 hours

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Whatever i dont really care lol

midnight nimbus Dec 22, 2018, 5:01 AM

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I’m open to chatting

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 5:01 AM

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have you uploaded an own avatar yet? @sturdy atlas

sturdy atlas Dec 22, 2018, 5:02 AM

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I have like 300 or so avatars uploaded and more that I overided /deleted

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 5:02 AM

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oh wow thats alot

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are any of them public?

sturdy atlas Dec 22, 2018, 5:02 AM

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Like probable like a 50

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 5:02 AM

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hmm ok

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have you made worlds?

sturdy atlas Dec 22, 2018, 5:03 AM

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Not yet cua all my world projects are on hold

inland jay Dec 22, 2018, 5:05 AM

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i dont know of any guide but you can use the chair prefabs and remove the vrc trigger and event handler.

sturdy atlas Dec 22, 2018, 5:05 AM

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Maybe i should make one just been so busy with school and stuff via my avatars are damn good

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Thanks anyway

midnight nimbus Dec 22, 2018, 5:10 AM

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You got it

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 5:13 AM

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seeing as this is the last update for the holidays ig i'll see u guys when the login bug is fixed after the holidays x3

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Whats the version of Unity the SDK is using rn

rain isle Dec 22, 2018, 5:32 AM

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yeah you can also just add vrc_pedestal or w/e the name is to something but im not sure how the hitboxes work for it

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i tried adding it to an empty gameobject and people kept accidentally clicking on it

polar pewter Dec 22, 2018, 5:36 AM

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is it normal that i see on unity that i have 6 unique material but in game it says i have 39? causing me to have overall performance of very poor ingame

halcyon kestrel Dec 22, 2018, 5:36 AM

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Question: if you turn off cloned avatars and if someone already cloned it does it remove it from their list? SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER

modern sand Dec 22, 2018, 5:37 AM

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@polar pewter How many meshes do you have ?

polar pewter Dec 22, 2018, 5:37 AM

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it says 0 ingame

modern sand Dec 22, 2018, 5:38 AM

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In unity i mean

polar pewter Dec 22, 2018, 5:38 AM

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in unity it says 0 meshe renderer. and 2 skinned mesh renderer

modern sand Dec 22, 2018, 5:39 AM

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that's the vrchat window though

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 5:39 AM

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Thank you VRChat team for chairs. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/511417163874172932/525904478935973900/VRChat_1920x1080_2018-12-21_22-07-15.807.png

modern sand Dec 22, 2018, 5:39 AM

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@halcyon kestrel There's no "list"

halcyon kestrel Dec 22, 2018, 5:39 AM

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where do the "Clone Avatars" go?

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if someone clones it

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does it go to their Favorites list?

modern sand Dec 22, 2018, 5:40 AM

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No ? It behaves like an avatar pedestal

polar pewter Dec 22, 2018, 5:40 AM

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on unity i have
Skinned Mesh Renderers: 2
Mesh Renderers: 0

modern sand Dec 22, 2018, 5:40 AM

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Can you get me a screenshot Firmus

polar pewter Dec 22, 2018, 5:41 AM

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http://postimg.cc/d7Lyq71c

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can u view link here?

halcyon kestrel Dec 22, 2018, 5:42 AM

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But still

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lets say someone clones my avatar

modern sand Dec 22, 2018, 5:43 AM

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@polar pewter And what about the hierarchy of your avatar ? Do you also have only two skinned mesh renderers ?

halcyon kestrel Dec 22, 2018, 5:44 AM

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lets say someone cloned my avatar and i uncheck the allow people to clone my avatar option, does it automatically switch their avatar to a default or something? or do they still have my avatar on?

polar pewter Dec 22, 2018, 5:44 AM

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i have 2 skinned mesh renderer

modern sand Dec 22, 2018, 5:44 AM

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They'll have it until they change avatar or change world

halcyon kestrel Dec 22, 2018, 5:44 AM

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oof

tidal aspen Dec 22, 2018, 5:44 AM

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If you don't want people wearing your avatar set it to private

modern sand Dec 22, 2018, 5:44 AM

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@polar pewter And also 6 materials on each ?

polar pewter Dec 22, 2018, 5:45 AM

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no. 1 of the skin have 1 material. and 5 on the other 1

modern sand Dec 22, 2018, 5:45 AM

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Can you send me the ID ?

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i'll send you a friend request on discord

polar pewter Dec 22, 2018, 5:45 AM

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alright

silk chasm Dec 22, 2018, 5:45 AM

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123

stiff tree Dec 22, 2018, 5:58 AM

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Lemme just say rideable avatars is amazing

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:00 AM

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:>

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:01 AM

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@median basalt @small wing What avatars have we stolen exactly?

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Also we're actually really psyched about the new avatar standards. It's great that everyone is now expected to meet the same standards, and that it's ultimately to the benefit of the platform being more optimized / stable.

I'm not sure if VRchat has a roadmap to end up on the Oculus Quest, or other upcoming future mobile VR platforms, but that's definitely the future, and going to require optimization standards we all have to get used to.

If having less special effects on avatars means onboarding more folks into social VR, then hell yeah, let's optimize.

It's a slow process getting our older avatars optimized, but we're getting there one step at a time. Also, the unity packages we offer is something we were doing right before the standards hit, and we continue to offer them for people who want to DIY based on our edits.

We're actually in the process of optimizing the unity packages as well.

If you want to talk about avatar world circumventing the new standards, just go to places like Shonzo's who updates their pedestals rather than updating their world and risking it getting taken down.

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Shonzo obviously isn't the only avatar world doing this. There are far more egregious offenders who wait until their world is approved and then replace all the avatars after the fact, but hey, that's between them and VRchat moderation team.

At least now everyone can see for themselves if an avatar is optimized or not, and I'm proud we're able to at least fall in the Medium category without losing too much of the polish we enjoyed using dynamic bones.

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:15 AM

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so are the devs going home for the holidays

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whats the chances of the login loop being fixed

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im sorry for being annoying but im starting a new job soon that i wont be on vr for a while

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:16 AM

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Ya know I find it odd that dynamic bones are so popular given it's regular price of $20

modern sand Dec 22, 2018, 6:16 AM

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Won't happen today for sure

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:16 AM

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and im closer to the people on this game than i've been to anyone else in my life

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yeah its already pretty late

snow fable Dec 22, 2018, 6:20 AM

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Is there a place I can submit a feature request?

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:22 AM

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@snow fable Also the canny : https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests

snow fable Dec 22, 2018, 6:23 AM

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thx

kindred nacelle Dec 22, 2018, 6:27 AM

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... where is the list of worlds you've favorited? I can't find it

fresh tiger Dec 22, 2018, 6:27 AM

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Any guide for converting to unity 2017

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:28 AM

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@floral minnow "We" implies a group

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:28 AM

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@umbral nova Yes, that is true.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:29 AM

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But what group

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:29 AM

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I'm confused. What are you talking about?

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:29 AM

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"@Rokk @I said "Audio" 33 times What avatars have we stolen exactly?"

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:30 AM

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My partner Diviy and I.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:30 AM

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I don't even see a conversation above about those two, unless I'm using the wrong search term

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:30 AM

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Subcom.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:31 AM

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Oh those, never mind

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I've heard a lot

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I'm not publicly siding with either side of the argument.

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:32 AM

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It's honestly neither here nor there. It's a minority that cares about any drama associated with avatars. Most people just enjoy cool shit regardless where it comes from or who is involved in making them.

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It's just personally fascinating to me seeing those who are intent on making everything a bigger deal than it actually is. :3

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:34 AM

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you're making from mmd texture shader reedits though when money is involved it changes the whole dynamic

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:34 AM

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That is true

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:34 AM

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If you think we only edit textures of deviantart MMD's then you definitely haven't been paying attention to the work we do. ❤

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:34 AM

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and you're still spreading your unoptimized avatars with that little trick you used

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:35 AM

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Also I stopped working with MMD's months ago. I've been making original meshes for quite a while now.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:35 AM

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But who models them?

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:35 AM

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@vocal shard I already addressed this above.

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Who models what?

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:35 AM

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The meshes

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You literally just mentioned them

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:36 AM

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I'm very confused by what you are asking Lone.

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:36 AM

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im going to be honest you act like you're on a high horse for donating to lgbt groups but when i asked what that trans avatar was about because I'm trans you were very rude to me and my friends, and every time i've heard about you being talked about it's always been negative

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:37 AM

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Well then I've been trying myself to not starting an argument u h h h

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:37 AM

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yeah i should probably dip out from this

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:37 AM

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Well time to start going in hot

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:37 AM

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@vocal shard It's obvious you have a personal issue with me and I accept that. Sorry you feel that way. You're always welcome at subcom. We have a pretty large group of trans folk there who are always looking out for each other. ❤

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:38 AM

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orbiters obviously

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:38 AM

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@vocal shard We do a lot more than simple texture re-edits.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:38 AM

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I wanna bet they either have the memory of a walnut or there's multiple people behind the account

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:38 AM

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I make my own meshes from scratch.

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No, I was just confused by your statement. If you were asking who made my models from scratch... I literally told you... me.

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If you are asking about Diviy's models, then I already explained, they are MMD edits.

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:39 AM

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We should just start the anti optimization gang @floral minnow

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:40 AM

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Lmao

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:40 AM

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@vocal shard I'm actually really happy with the optimization standards. Really surprised so many people are upset by them.

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The opportunity for VRchat to end up on mobile VR platforms is going to be huge.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:40 AM

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Doubt that'll happen though

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:41 AM

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I'm honestly hoping them implement a system to automatically block unoptimized avatars if it means ending up on more platforms.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:41 AM

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You have every right to correct me in the future

tidal aspen Dec 22, 2018, 6:41 AM

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stuff being a no-no still doesn't stop someone from doing it xigOOF

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:41 AM

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i really should just dip i've heard stuff about you through the grapevine and i dont want to shit up the discord with it im out

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:41 AM

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But I don't foresee VRChat itself going onto mobile VR platforms

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:41 AM

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Me or her?

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😏

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:42 AM

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You or who? And about what?

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:42 AM

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@vocal shard I'm not sure why everyone is fixated on textures. We sell edits of all sorts and are very comfortable with the grey are we reside in in terms of copyright. We work hard on our edits, and we don't charge much for that work.

... and once again, that's Diviy. I'm doing original mesh work now, so... big shrug

timid musk Dec 22, 2018, 6:42 AM

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If you didn't let them publish through Unity they would find a way around it

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 AM

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@vocal shard No, I mean allowing them to exist on the platform, but blocking the same way you automatically block using the safety features.

vast tulip Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 AM

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how is everyone doing?

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Pretty good Mimi. ❤

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Arguing

vast tulip Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 AM

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:>

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 AM

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I think we're having a lovely discussion. 😄

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 AM

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get out while you can

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 AM

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I wanted to like

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Not start it, someone else did

vast tulip Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 AM

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oh thats still happening? why dont you just play and not argue? :P

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 AM

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And it kinda went downhill

vast tulip Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 AM

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dama is lame. just have fun

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Sup

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:44 AM

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@vast tulip Same... heading into VRchat in a bit. ❤

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:44 AM

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Thats because you guys always bully us

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:44 AM

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Looks pretty chill to me o.O

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:44 AM

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I've been more of a bystander more than anything

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:44 AM

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@vocal shard We have traditionally extensive mesh edits... not texture edits.

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:44 AM

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Ok the hells going on now?

tidal aspen Dec 22, 2018, 6:44 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it's the nature of social games to have drama

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:44 AM

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@vocal shard Once again, Diviy is continuing to do MMD edits... I'm creating original work from the ground up.

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:44 AM

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Nothing, just let people do what they do. shrugs

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:45 AM

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aye

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lol

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Never

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Oh is this about commision things again?

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Not on my christian minecraft server!

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:45 AM

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o.O

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:46 AM

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I have a friend that was too christian he was forced to change his name

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:46 AM

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ye... just the typical debate on the ethics of doing MMD based commissions

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:46 AM

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He was called... Jesus Christ

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:46 AM

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Imma dip so they dont switch to me

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:46 AM

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So don't go full Christian

crude river Dec 22, 2018, 6:46 AM

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10-8

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:46 AM

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Go with like Chris

floral minnow Dec 22, 2018, 6:46 AM

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Ye... just wanted to address a few things and show my support to the dev team for the new update. ❤

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I'm off to chill in VRchat... feel free to hit me up... I accept all friend requests : LittleMouseVR

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:47 AM

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Chris Chen is the now name :>

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:47 AM

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The main reason I don't go about in debates about the ethics of MMD models being used and edited in VRChat

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:47 AM

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Imma invite you to my private world then 😋

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Hehe

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:47 AM

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Well, if you saw the models I do

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:47 AM

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Nah... Jesus Christ is now called Hikari

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big change I know

crude river Dec 22, 2018, 6:47 AM

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I'm loading in as well

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:48 AM

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Hikari

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:48 AM

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There's literally no room for me to talk

indigo fern Dec 22, 2018, 6:48 AM

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HNNNNG

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:48 AM

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vrpill

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:48 AM

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So the models I work with kinda don't really fall under fair use either

crude river Dec 22, 2018, 6:48 AM

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vrpill

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:49 AM

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Also N8 that emote

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That's gorgeous

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:49 AM

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My 3d modelling abilities are limited to props

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:49 AM

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Yeh basically

polar bone Dec 22, 2018, 6:49 AM

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Mine neither, I steal all my assets from Fortnite

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:49 AM

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:>

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:50 AM

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Dude like someone offered to pay me to do custom visemes for him

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I did the visemes but refuses the pay

polar bone Dec 22, 2018, 6:50 AM

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Shoulda taken it

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:50 AM

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I mean it is natural to be paid by someone who asks you to do something for them I guess.

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:50 AM

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whats wrong with pay for visimes

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:51 AM

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E h

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I don't take money from people

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:51 AM

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That means you don't have a job...

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:51 AM

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Plus the visemes were kinda easy

crude river Dec 22, 2018, 6:51 AM

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Imma be in the box

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:52 AM

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No face bones but I had experience with proportional editing at that point so

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:52 AM

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That's literally what a Job is personally... I bake you cupcakes... you pay me for it...

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:52 AM

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No big deal

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I mean I don't have a job yet you are correct on that

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I would take money for doing this for people but eh

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I would have to set up a paypal, and this was for a friend anyway

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:53 AM

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On a different note... Ive run into network hiccups again (seems to happen at around this time)

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I'm trying to put a friend into my favorites... won't let me

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:53 AM

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Ooph

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:53 AM

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A lot of people on right now

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:54 AM

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"VRChat let me put this particular person in a category he belongs... GRRRR"

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:54 AM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Dec 22, 2018, 6:54 AM

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There are 7417 users in VRChat currently

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:54 AM

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O H

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Explains a lot then

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:54 AM

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I wonder how many of them are in private rooms

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:54 AM

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tfw login loop

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:55 AM

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it's a lottery

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:55 AM

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Probably about 4,000 at least

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:55 AM

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You might experience problems... you might not

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:55 AM

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You know people and their private worlds

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Always. ALWAYS

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:55 AM

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To me varcht feels empty since a lot are in private rooms

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:56 AM

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It would feel that way if you haven't had the oportunity to make friend groups over the past months or years already.

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:56 AM

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My friends all left me

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 6:56 AM

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Get out of the private instances

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:56 AM

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My personal problem is timezone issue

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:56 AM

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I started a year ago today :>

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:57 AM

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AUS time doesn't work well with the majority of my EU and US friends

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Like I'm about to sleep and all my German and Italian Friends get on

subtle prawn Dec 22, 2018, 6:58 AM

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I also don't feel like hanging out in the same worlds, I world jump a lot to newer but the worlds are empty

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:58 AM

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@woven steppe hi ach!!!

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:58 AM

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Sup Kasu

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:58 AM

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XD my play time only works with aus people

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 6:59 AM

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I find amusing situations in public Japan Shrine

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Can't understand anything tho

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 6:59 AM

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I needa start goin there. Its fun

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 7:01 AM

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My usual late night source of VRChat entertainment has decided to do something else

kindred nacelle Dec 22, 2018, 7:05 AM

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hawaii here

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australians keep me company a lot

still lark Dec 22, 2018, 7:06 AM

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Ah yeah no worries mate.

severe lily Dec 22, 2018, 7:15 AM

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@still lark 👀

still lark Dec 22, 2018, 7:15 AM

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@severe lily 👀

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 7:59 AM

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Filipino here. I usually run into US and AUS people, but I never encountered people of my own nationality ever.. nakakalungkot n'man

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Though sometimes, I do get in touch with EU people... including those from the UK

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 8:10 AM

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The Twitch team I'm associated with has a load of folks who are either fully Filipino or has Filipino ancestry.

ripe mist Dec 22, 2018, 8:11 AM

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Question

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Can i Ask VRpill to update one of his Maps because when i joined VRC it was such a Cool map can i contact him ? (Haunted Prison)

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 8:18 AM

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Ooh. Pwede ko po patignan? @woven steppe
(Can I see it?)

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 8:37 AM

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@ripe mist You can ask him but he either doesn't have the file, isn't willing to update it, or some other third thing.

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He might do it

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But I suggest you don't ping him.

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Take a look at Rule 23 to see what I mean

true sky Dec 22, 2018, 8:38 AM

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vrpill

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Shouldn't this emote be updated by now

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Should be 2017.4 :P

wide jetty Dec 22, 2018, 8:41 AM

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ayaka

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 8:42 AM

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@true sky They HAD a 2017 emote but

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They removed it

still lark Dec 22, 2018, 8:43 AM

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Probably wasn't as memed

indigo fern Dec 22, 2018, 8:45 AM

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tupper added it and it got deleted soon after garyShrug

ripe mist Dec 22, 2018, 8:48 AM

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@umbral nova How can i Contact him?

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 8:48 AM

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Idk

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I mean you can try to ping him but nu guarantee you'll make it out alive vrpill

indigo fern Dec 22, 2018, 8:49 AM

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sweatGuts

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 8:52 AM

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wtf

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10 fps in desktop mode

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wtf did they break now

mighty galleon Dec 22, 2018, 8:52 AM

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your heart

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 8:55 AM

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theres nothing in #announcements

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 8:56 AM

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They broke your base stations

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 8:57 AM

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??????

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do you know what desktop mode is

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do you know how to read?

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clearly you do not

mighty galleon Dec 22, 2018, 8:58 AM

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your computer is now base station

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lol kuro blocked me for saying that

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 8:59 AM

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They're referencing your name...

mighty galleon Dec 22, 2018, 8:59 AM

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and told me to kms

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 9:01 AM

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Wow

mighty galleon Dec 22, 2018, 9:01 AM

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yeah cant take joke i guess

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 9:02 AM

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He's probably in a bad mood...

mighty galleon Dec 22, 2018, 9:03 AM

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maybe

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Welp... He went off on me and blocked me too for no reason...

mighty galleon Dec 22, 2018, 9:10 AM

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why

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Idk... Just said kys

mighty galleon Dec 22, 2018, 9:10 AM

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yeah same to me

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 9:12 AM

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@vocal shard are you ok? Is everything alright?... You aren't normally angry like this. Asking because actually concerned

raven mulch Dec 22, 2018, 9:12 AM

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thonk

mighty galleon Dec 22, 2018, 9:12 AM

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wouldnt that still be blocked?

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 9:12 AM

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Yeah, but they can still tell of someone messaged them and check

mighty galleon Dec 22, 2018, 9:13 AM

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ohhh ok

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so jamie

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 9:16 AM

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Hmm?

mighty galleon Dec 22, 2018, 9:17 AM

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any news on this update i been at work all day so idk whats happening

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 9:18 AM

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@mighty galleon hug5

mighty galleon Dec 22, 2018, 9:18 AM

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oh hi shima

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 9:19 AM

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Other than before, they rolled back the new ik system, and now let you favorite 16 avatars instead of just 3

mighty galleon Dec 22, 2018, 9:19 AM

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interestin

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btw jamie can i show off my paitnig im proud of to you :3 its a cute spooder

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 9:20 AM

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Sure

serene talon Dec 22, 2018, 9:36 AM

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I've been disconnected 16 times between the hour of 12 am and 430 am EST.

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 9:37 AM

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Network being wonky

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it's a lottery

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 9:50 AM

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the circle is spinning around when i try to login... since update, vrchjat servers are so bad..

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Yeah, they announced there were some server problems earlier

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 9:51 AM

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It's just chance at this point... currently I'm having no connection issues... but bout 4 hours ago I had trouble even leaving my home world lol

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I have just logged off tho... so maybe someone out there having connection issues stops having them

errant merlin Dec 22, 2018, 10:06 AM

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Been charging my Vive Trackers and they seem to never turn white, only remain yellow/orange for me

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:26 AM

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@errant merlin a recent firmware update caused that. Theyll fully charge but never turn white anymore

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I have a couple that occasionally turn white, and a third that never does. All on the same firmware

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:30 AM

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Meanwhile I never got told to kms. I don't feel special.

errant merlin Dec 22, 2018, 10:31 AM

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Oh, I see.. I hope they fix it soon since it's hard to tell

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:31 AM

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going off of what happened up there

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:32 AM

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Kiss your sister

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:32 AM

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LOL

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I guess that works

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:32 AM

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Lol

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:32 AM

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Thanks

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I actually have no idea what's going on with Kuro, unless that Base Station thing is really getting to them

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 10:33 AM

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He has always been mean so imo its nothing new

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:34 AM

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When I was unable to play VR I just went to Desktop anyway

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I didn't care

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Actually that was the time I was most productive

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:34 AM

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But sean or I didn't really do anything... So that was odd. Lol

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:34 AM

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I mean it was me more than anything

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I went straight to the point on them

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And they went off at me

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But they never DM'd me

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:35 AM

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Hmm...

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:35 AM

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I WANT MY CUSTOM COPYPASTA

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Will my ping not work if I @ someone without their numbers?

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I want that to happen so

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:36 AM

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It still does.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:37 AM

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It still works?

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 10:37 AM

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@umbral nova

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Nope

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fuckit and do a real ping 👀

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:38 AM

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unity_chan_dab

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 10:38 AM

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😂 bruh

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:38 AM

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O.o

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:38 AM

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You told me to

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 10:38 AM

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i joked about it

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:38 AM

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Lmao

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Ouwell

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Should I delete that lol

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 10:39 AM

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yea

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:40 AM

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ShanaTHINKING

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 10:41 AM

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inb4 hour long video on eevee

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:42 AM

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Bring it

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:42 AM

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lmao

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:42 AM

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I wonder if Giffany gets what we're talking about

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:43 AM

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ShanaPout

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:43 AM

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zamz_sip

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Hmm...

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:43 AM

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Anyone else experience some odd effects after using VR?

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Like your irl hands look odd, as do like smartphone displays

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:44 AM

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Like waking up the next morning and thinking you have controllers in your hands?

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:44 AM

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Yeah, the first week of vr is trippy irl

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:44 AM

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I had that after playing a long night when I was just starting VRChat

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Good times...

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:45 AM

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I also feel

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Like im controlling my body

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Rather than I am it

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:45 AM

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I still wish my old old friends still played

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:45 AM

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Mhmm

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You'll get used to that feeling after a while.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:45 AM

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Like from back in from January through March

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They kinda fizzled out after April...

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:46 AM

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When you say youll get used to it

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It goes away? Or you adapt to it lol

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:46 AM

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I'm the only one that consistently plays

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:46 AM

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Adapt

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:46 AM

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For me it went away.

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Elire 💛

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Might be different for others.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:46 AM

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Adapt to VR, the side effects go away

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:46 AM

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Interestingly I didnt experience motion sickness at all

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:46 AM

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Like fake controllers after you wake up

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:47 AM

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If you want to test if you can get motion sickness in VR, I suggest this world: https://vrchat.net/home/world/wrld_4c573269-8de5-4dd7-9a3b-30b3c9aaab03

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Oh god is it the park?

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Nah, the Twindrive Testrun.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:48 AM

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Advert lol

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That might be too intense

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:48 AM

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AdvertHoppouShrug Issa test, jyano

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:48 AM

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Lul

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:49 AM

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But yeah, its definatley an odd sensation

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Im also more confident though.

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love the downsy in public open mic with avatar clone

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:50 AM

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YokoThink

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:50 AM

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If you start seeing the mic icon irl, that's normal.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:50 AM

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It's just burned into your retinas, that's all

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:50 AM

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Haha

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Or if you start doing gestures irl... That's a normal part of a vrchatter lol

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I have noticed I point more

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:thonk

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:51 AM

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@vocal shard Actually that's kinda what I meant with the phantom controllers when you wake up

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Did you ever get that?

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:51 AM

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Ah

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When I try to write in midair ill do a spoop

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I started to shrug a lot more IRL when I first started.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:52 AM

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I remember the morning I tried to pick something up in my room

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:52 AM

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I wonder if there is any studies on the physiological effects of vr use

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Not really... I just notice i double thumbs up now, talk with my hands, exaggerate my laugh, and sometimes peace now

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:52 AM

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And all I did was pull an imaginary trigger

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:53 AM

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This just in: VR makes introverts more expressive and easier to interact with

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Lmao

wide jetty Dec 22, 2018, 10:53 AM

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vrclike

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Hello I'am Woops

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Today Is Good Yeah ; )

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:53 AM

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The R E A L WOOPS?

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:53 AM

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Hello, I am Elire

wide jetty Dec 22, 2018, 10:54 AM

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Hello Elire

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:54 AM

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I also have begun wanting to take pictures of cute/fun/interesting moments lol

wide jetty Dec 22, 2018, 10:54 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:54 AM

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I remember watching a documentary that uses VR for hospital stuff. Can't exactly remember what hospital stuff tho.

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:54 AM

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Heh. That's expected of your increasing socialization.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:54 AM

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@vocal shard Surgery training I presume

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:54 AM

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hi!

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Hi

cold talon Dec 22, 2018, 10:55 AM

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greetings

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:55 AM

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It also makes you approach the world as if your attractive

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Welcome

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Which is interesting

wide jetty Dec 22, 2018, 10:55 AM

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_< Vrchat Game Is Good

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Can't exactly remember so I dunno if that's it, chief.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Super admin

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Yea. True that

cold talon Dec 22, 2018, 10:55 AM

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ChariotShrug

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Boss of both Tupper and VRPill

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Ruuubick is undecided

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I forget is there a fourth?

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Wait nvm now I remeber

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:56 AM

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Wait.. 4th admin?

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:56 AM

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Gunter yea

cold talon Dec 22, 2018, 10:56 AM

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nah ruuubick is still above me, but im aiming for the top

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:56 AM

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Forgot for a sec

placid zealot Dec 22, 2018, 10:57 AM

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I saw one where they used vr to distract kids from pain during procedures like putting a cast on.

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:57 AM

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Cyber Tupper?

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:57 AM

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So.. Cyber Tupper, Pirate Pill, Ninja Ruubick, and Shady Gunter.

cold talon Dec 22, 2018, 10:57 AM

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uh message deleted

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:57 AM

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I did that

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:57 AM

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Them Nintendo ninjas man

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:58 AM

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Fuc.. my text is lagging

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:58 AM

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They're out to get me

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:58 AM

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Stop downloading 18+ stuff

cold talon Dec 22, 2018, 10:58 AM

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no saying Fuc in my Christian server AngryEyes

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:58 AM

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YokoStress

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:58 AM

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@vocal shard it's not the 18+ stuff

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It's all the ROMs

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That's the real reason I left home for a week

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 10:59 AM

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18+ ROMs? CopThinking

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weewoo
"Boys we got him to admit it!"
"Move now!"

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:59 AM

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They've infested the streets

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:59 AM

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TupperIsAngry

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 10:59 AM

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Lmao

queen mango Dec 22, 2018, 10:59 AM

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18+ ROMs?!

cold talon Dec 22, 2018, 11:00 AM

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super_mario_world332.rom.png.info.exe

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 11:00 AM

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Lol

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But no really me and my friends do way too many Nintendo models for our own good

rocky blaze Dec 22, 2018, 11:00 AM

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so am i supposed to log in into my account like 10 times before i go to each world now?

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 11:00 AM

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They're ou to get us

rocky blaze Dec 22, 2018, 11:04 AM

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all my game is doing for like 10-20 times is "logging to account...done" "loading" "logging to account...done" then eventually does what i wanted

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 11:05 AM

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That's why they announced that there's server problems right now with logging in and loading

rocky blaze Dec 22, 2018, 11:05 AM

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ah

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 11:16 AM

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@vocal shard Should I do that next?

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Make a loading thing and logging in screen?

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 11:17 AM

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Lol 👌

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 11:17 AM

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I already made one with the Authentication Failed screen

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It was beautiful

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 11:17 AM

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Yeah lol

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 11:17 AM

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Actually did you see it? I forgot if you were still there when I finished it

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 11:19 AM

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With the vrchat error sound?

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 11:19 AM

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Yes

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With the VRC logo and all

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The loading screen rather

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 11:20 AM

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Maybe i saw an early version?... I remember sort of, but not detailed

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 11:21 AM

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Oh it was finished when I first showed it off to people

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But you remember I put it on that cockroach Pokemon right?

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 11:22 AM

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I can't remember animesweat

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 11:23 AM

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When I get home I'll show you what it looks like in Blender

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 11:23 AM

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Ok cool

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 11:23 AM

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WAIT

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I found a post of it while it was still in Blender

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 11:33 AM

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So wait, i'm not the only one with a never ending loop of logins?

umbral nova Dec 22, 2018, 11:34 AM

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Idk

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But now I'm gonna make it into an avatar meme

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Login loop avatar? That would be quite interesting

delicate stump Dec 22, 2018, 11:53 AM

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happy optimizing holidays

red fable Dec 22, 2018, 11:54 AM

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Quick stupid question but can anyone find the favorite worlds tab? Been stuck looking at this screen for about 12mins, can only see Featured, Popular, Avatars, etc.

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Oddly enough

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I don't have favorites

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In my tab

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Favorites is down while they replace it with playlists

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Is that what they are doing?

red fable Dec 22, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Ah, alrighty. Thanks for the info.

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Yeah. You'll be able to share it with friends

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How about the infinite loop logins

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No one having that issue?

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Yeah they know about that. Even vrpill had it earlier. They tweeted about it earlier today

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Hmmm, do you have the link for that? Just curiosity, also for read.

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In announcements up a bit. And in chat earlier vrpill was asking if anyone else was having loading loops

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Thank you very much

vestal star Dec 22, 2018, 12:09 PM

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The loop never ends.

light wedge Dec 22, 2018, 12:12 PM

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why my vr chat auto log out

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 12:13 PM

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That must be the loop everyone is experiencing

coral steppe Dec 22, 2018, 12:14 PM

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This new favorite extension, i have 4 avatars favorited, but i only see 3

mint turret Dec 22, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Can someone tell me how to upload an avatar on the latest SDK ?

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Same as before

mint turret Dec 22, 2018, 12:42 PM

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No

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I don't see Build control Panel

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 12:43 PM

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It might not have imported the package properly. Maybe try reimporting the vrcsdk?

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 12:43 PM

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What unity version are you using
What SDK version did you download

mint turret Dec 22, 2018, 12:43 PM

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Is it still above on the VRChat SDK Tab ?

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I'm using Unity 5.6.3

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 12:44 PM

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https://vrc-community-docs.gitbook.io/docs/faq/unity-faq

Better get going removing it then as your leaps behind

rigid crescent Dec 22, 2018, 12:44 PM

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->

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 12:45 PM

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We're on unity 2017.4.15f1

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 12:46 PM

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Gotte edit the link then to exclude the VR stuff- Unsure how that worked again 🤔

rigid crescent Dec 22, 2018, 12:50 PM

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1 sec

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--no-vr in launch options

inner cape Dec 22, 2018, 12:54 PM

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soon

earnest harbor Dec 22, 2018, 1:11 PM

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Why are we on unity 2017 when it's 2018? THONK

glossy wharf Dec 22, 2018, 1:11 PM

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Because theres no 2018 lts build.

earnest harbor Dec 22, 2018, 1:11 PM

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Nearly 2019!! DoubleThonk

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Think of it like windows 10

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Where was windows 9?

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Brain explodes

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 1:12 PM

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we dont talk about windows 9

earnest harbor Dec 22, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Where was fallout 75? That was a classic imho

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 1:12 PM

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XD

rigid crescent Dec 22, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Windows tupper

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 1:14 PM

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Tupperware

safe marsh Dec 22, 2018, 1:14 PM

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GWfroggyZoomeyes

quiet river Dec 22, 2018, 1:20 PM

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Windows 9 is 8.1

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 1:20 PM

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Yeah, though a tad confusing.

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:13 PM

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lol wow joins a world with fully optimized avatar just to get voted kicked not even 30 secs later.... 1000 vr chat community

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i didnt even talk either xD

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 2:14 PM

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guess they didnt want unneeded lagg

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:14 PM

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lol i was under 20k polys

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 2:14 PM

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Polygongs do almost nothing for performance

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:14 PM

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had 3 materials

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 2:14 PM

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Unless you are leaving stuff out your part of the also fully optimized group then

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:15 PM

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im all green on performance

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 2:15 PM

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Why would they kick you then if your all green?

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:16 PM

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i have not the slightest clue

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its was public too

fast dawn Dec 22, 2018, 2:16 PM

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probably some normies

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:16 PM

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...oh no a trusted user run kick him hurry..?

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makes no sense

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im a normie

fast dawn Dec 22, 2018, 2:17 PM

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probably some normies who think if you don't have excellent performance rank you're lagging them. makes no sense. there is different types of normies

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:18 PM

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lol their avatars were very poor

umbral oracle Dec 22, 2018, 2:18 PM

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More than likely they were all friends and didn't want visitors. Also check your mic wasn't too loud or maybe there was something they didn't like about your avatar.

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:19 PM

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im a mute most of the time

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its a tera avatar

tacit plank Dec 22, 2018, 2:19 PM

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Cute loli?

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:19 PM

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if you dont want visitors then make a private instance

umbral oracle Dec 22, 2018, 2:20 PM

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I've had vrchat inexplicably unmute my mic before when taking headset off and on :-p so who knows. Probably they were friends withe each other and didn't like someone different

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Well it happens all the time that a big group of friends all invade a public instance maybe by mistake opening the wrong type of portal

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:20 PM

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make me almost not want to finish my avatar world for the community you know xD

tacit plank Dec 22, 2018, 2:21 PM

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Don't think all players are like that

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:21 PM

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thats why i said almost

umbral oracle Dec 22, 2018, 2:21 PM

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You should never read too much into such things. Most people in publics i have seen don't care about performance yet or laugh about how everyone is poor or very poor

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:22 PM

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i was just shocked that that happened

umbral oracle Dec 22, 2018, 2:22 PM

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If your stats are all 0 people might think you are hiding something (disabled stuff doesn't count)

fast dawn Dec 22, 2018, 2:22 PM

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no one cares because most got very poor or poor themselfes lmao

umbral oracle Dec 22, 2018, 2:22 PM

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Ya pretty weird. Just pick a different world :-p shrug

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:23 PM

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well would anyone care to join me for some animation?

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 2:23 PM

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Tbh- I might be the only one with this
But i would love to see medium + optimized only or even higher

fast dawn Dec 22, 2018, 2:23 PM

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If hidden stuff doesn't count, then there is possible to bypass the performance rank thingy?

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 2:24 PM

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Would be neat to have the 30+ users room already even with the reverted IK changes

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:24 PM

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i have 2 i have recently set to public if you would like to copy @umbral reef

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 2:24 PM

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And cant wait for the IK stuff to be added again for 40+ users room when people optimize

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@gaunt pine I got a perfectly optimized one myself--

But i was talking about needing to use a optimized avatar to join a room.

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Not an avatar world with optimized stuff ;p

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:25 PM

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lol no one could join anywhere

tacit plank Dec 22, 2018, 2:25 PM

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If only baking didn't mean ruining colors

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And fuck Gimp. It's shit. It can't change any colors reliably, and half the time it reduces the color quality to a 16 or 8bit look

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 2:26 PM

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I got an avatar thats optimized to the max without losing anything really--
I have animation version of the avatar that are less optimized ofcours
But i dont need laggybones on my avatars GWnanamiLaceShrug

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:26 PM

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welp ill be bouncing christmas worlds letting people copy my avatarsee you around

tacit plank Dec 22, 2018, 2:26 PM

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Laters

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:26 PM

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all my avatars have animations

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even the optimized one

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that im giving out

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❤ vr chat

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 2:27 PM

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But still- Would it not be neat to see the 30+ users rooms again?

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Instead of the 3 friend groups within public or loads of lonely people like happens right now...

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:28 PM

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indeed

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40 ppl lag box

empty hull Dec 22, 2018, 2:30 PM

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Is anyone experiencing favoriting(social) issue since the update?

gaunt pine Dec 22, 2018, 2:30 PM

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anyone else getting randomly disconected

indigo fern Dec 22, 2018, 2:30 PM

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yea, the social menu favoriting is messed up right now

empty hull Dec 22, 2018, 2:30 PM

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okay thank you

indigo fern Dec 22, 2018, 2:31 PM

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but you can unfavorite people without a problem garyShrug

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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The disabled stuff doesn't work tho... you can upload your avatar with all the stuff disabled and have an animator that spawns everything a second after loading, after the calculations are done...

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BUT you will only appear good/very good to yourself

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everyone else who loads all your stuff will see whatever the true ranking is when they do load your avatar

long venture Dec 22, 2018, 2:44 PM

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i feel sad that all my avatar will be very poor

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shana

stone current Dec 22, 2018, 2:44 PM

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wuf

long venture Dec 22, 2018, 2:44 PM

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fatdoge

stone current Dec 22, 2018, 2:45 PM

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woofo

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:45 PM

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Give it money and it won't be poor anymore

stone current Dec 22, 2018, 2:45 PM

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spitzo

long venture Dec 22, 2018, 2:45 PM

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but i dont have moni either

stone current Dec 22, 2018, 2:45 PM

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sno hat

desert rover Dec 22, 2018, 2:45 PM

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Alguien habla espanol?

stone current Dec 22, 2018, 2:45 PM

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no hablo español

long venture Dec 22, 2018, 2:46 PM

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hyperdoge

stone current Dec 22, 2018, 2:46 PM

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oooff

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:46 PM

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#spanish

desert rover Dec 22, 2018, 2:46 PM

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ah ya dale

ruby needle Dec 22, 2018, 2:46 PM

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@desert rover #spanish

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 2:46 PM

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Fpaul, give me a burg

stone current Dec 22, 2018, 2:46 PM

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giv me a hugggggg

long venture Dec 22, 2018, 2:46 PM

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Huggu

stone current Dec 22, 2018, 2:46 PM

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doggo

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#ransom-chat for all ur ransom needs

vocal shard Dec 22, 2018, 3:00 PM

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anyone having issues with favoring avatars and un favorting stuff not updating

neat ferry Dec 22, 2018, 3:45 PM

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My recently favorited avatars are not appearing.

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Might be a bug i suppose.

oak trench Dec 22, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Anyone notice that Dropped Portals don't decay? (Don't time out/count-down and disappear?)

vast tulip Dec 22, 2018, 3:46 PM

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@neat ferry check #announcements

opaque hawk Dec 22, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Yes @oak trench

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It happens sometimes

oak trench Dec 22, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Kay, I thought I was going crazy 😂

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The world I'm in has two dropped portals and they haven't gone away

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It's been like 20min

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 3:58 PM

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it happens shrug

leaden flame Dec 22, 2018, 3:59 PM

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So, since a new favorite system with the play list was added, I don't see my other favorited worlds before that was added. It said it was in playlist one, but only the new world I recently favorited popped up

hallow thistle Dec 22, 2018, 4:06 PM

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The new update thingy that gets people banned because of their high poly-count. I'm wondering what the cap is? how many polys can I have on my avatar? the old SDK said 20k but I've heard people say 70k with the update

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:07 PM

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I’m not sure who told you those lies but the performance system does not ban anyone or punish them in any way. It just tells you how laggy your avatar is.

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:07 PM

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don't be silly... the new thingy doesn't get people banned

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asfor favorited worlds... scroll down

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:08 PM

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And yes, the new polygon limit is 70k, you are advised to not use that much unless you really need them, it’s not recommended.

leaden flame Dec 22, 2018, 4:09 PM

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I scroll down, and it shows my 2 playlist of favorited worlds, one is 32/32 but it only shows the new ones I recently favorited, and the other playlist is also new ones I currently favorited, not my old ones

supple sedge Dec 22, 2018, 4:09 PM

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Sometimes you just get stuck on "logging in as [user]" and it started happening ever since the new patches that just came
uarghh what a pain

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:09 PM

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The new recommendation is 32k or under, still more than the old recommendation of 10k

ruby needle Dec 22, 2018, 4:10 PM

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and the new cap is 70

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with a new higher and more then reasonable cap it's possible that new violations might be punished now tho.

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Could be fun af if we could let a robot scan all uploaded avatars and just clear all the bad avatars 😂

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Yeah there’s really no justification for it. It wouldn’t surprise me if they started actually enforcing the modding SDK is bannable rule now

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:12 PM

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NSFW mode for me then if that happens OMEGALUL

ruby needle Dec 22, 2018, 4:12 PM

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i'd hope for that Adeon

dark narwhal Dec 22, 2018, 4:12 PM

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I like the new stats...i never would have known the trash avatar in front of me was over 800k polys without it

ruby needle Dec 22, 2018, 4:13 PM

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800k LUL

dark narwhal Dec 22, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Yee

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:13 PM

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my props can be that much

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Late triggered constant Animations

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Yeah

dark narwhal Dec 22, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Ya i think it was his gun

undone cobalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:13 PM

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hey look at this cool flashlig.. "POOR"

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:14 PM

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You can fool the uploader and get it in but the in game one will not be fooled :p

umbral reef Dec 22, 2018, 4:14 PM

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What is funny af

dark narwhal Dec 22, 2018, 4:14 PM

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My life

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:14 PM

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I still have a variable rating avatar... although with my 9 animators I can't reach good anymore

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still can be medium, poor and very poor tho

ruby needle Dec 22, 2018, 4:15 PM

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anyone can be very poor cirBaka

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:15 PM

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I feel that’s why they sent avatars out of excellent just for using an animator at all, they can’t verify what you are doing with it

dark narwhal Dec 22, 2018, 4:15 PM

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I expected my acatars to be very poor but most were medium

ruby needle Dec 22, 2018, 4:15 PM

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thats an interesting theory @languid beacon

digital sparrow Dec 22, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Some avatar worlds have avatars with >2000 collision calcs

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:16 PM

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all my animators are for the clothes changing thing... which incidentally is what made my avatar a variable rating one

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:16 PM

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I really wish I could just have my idle animation and stay excellent. It’s less laggy than IK anyway

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:16 PM

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swimsuit and (almost nude) = medium... fully clothed = very poor wiBlush

ruby needle Dec 22, 2018, 4:17 PM

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optimization. whats that cirBaka

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:17 PM

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VRchat encouraging me to wear less clothes in public OMEGALUL

digital sparrow Dec 22, 2018, 4:17 PM

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of polygons added by the clothing, dyn bones in the clothing etc

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Or just optimize your clothes. You’d be surprised how much stuff has no real impact from others

dark narwhal Dec 22, 2018, 4:17 PM

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If your chain aint a seperate mesh with bones in each link with colliders ur doin it wrong

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:17 PM

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I don't use dynamic bones on the clothes

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Remember I never really got to use dynamic bones much since when I started I didn't bother to buy the asset and used cloth... and stuck with cloth

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eventually got dyn bones... was disappointed with how it simulated things and relegated it to tail applications

dark narwhal Dec 22, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Ive always wanted to be able to see peoples poly count...it makes for a fun guessing game as well

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:19 PM

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I feel like a parrot saying this over and over but I got myself from 260k down to 32k polys and most people didn’t even notice a change, then my first response I got was “is that a more detailed model? you look less wrinkly” >_>

dark narwhal Dec 22, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Ye

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Yes but dyn just looks more unnatural than cloth

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it doesn't respond fast enough

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coz the force input has to travel down the bones

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it looks hilarious with people who have massive numbers of bones on their hair

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takes the tip like 5 seconds to follow a movement

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:21 PM

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Increase dynbone radius for faster response lots of people don’t realize how small the default radius is far inside the geometry making it look like a delayed response

dark narwhal Dec 22, 2018, 4:21 PM

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Thats why u make a dynamic bone component for every bone squirtle

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I need to practice the art of cloth

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:22 PM

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And while flowy most dynamic bone applicatons I've seen just seems a little stiff

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Hair doesn't hold it's shape like that

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:22 PM

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Cloth is easy, make sure the separated parts are no longer skinned though, rig data is ignored when there’s a cloth component, but the rating system will still punish you for having it be skinned.

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So just remove any bones from the cloth model in blender or whatever so it imports into unity as a static mesh

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:24 PM

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I edit the parameter of every vertex on mine

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I like the 2017.14.5's cloth tho... easier to tune than 5.6's

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:25 PM

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Yeah inside out cloths is a problem if you use tension

leaden flame Dec 22, 2018, 4:25 PM

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Oof

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:27 PM

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I am interested in looking for alternate ways to get a wagging tail outside of dynamic or custom animations, I hear it’s possible to do with a shader?

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Trying to see how detailed I can get an excellent rated avatar (without cheating)

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:29 PM

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one thing I haven't re-added from my old avatar that I stopped using back in September was my flashlight

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With Halloween over there'd be less dark maps... At least I hope so

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:31 PM

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Nothing wrong with alternate versions with lights when you need them. I feel the performance rating is only relevant for social hangout maps. Not game maps which are usually not with big crowds

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:31 PM

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Many A time I went to visit friends and they're in this dark maze thing... "Oh damn it... The hell's everyone!?!? Can't see shit" is my usual reaction

humble geode Dec 22, 2018, 4:31 PM

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Lights count against you but light from particals don't. So if you make a flash light I would use a partical.

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Sounds like an oversight

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:32 PM

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one light drops you to what rating?

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Good

humble geode Dec 22, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Poor

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:32 PM

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What, I thought two lights drops you to very poor

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:32 PM

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because I technically still have a light source on my avatar I just have it disabled and none of my animations activate it.

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:33 PM

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Not used stuff does not count against you

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:33 PM

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the question is will it still take load on someone's CPU even if I don't use it?

humble geode Dec 22, 2018, 4:34 PM

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No

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:34 PM

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It’s just binary at that point I don’t think it matters

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:34 PM

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I have replaced the gesture that activated my flashlight with my "walk through walls" thing... Which was even better when I find my friends midway in a maze map

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:35 PM

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I thought they broke noclip/speed modifiers

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:35 PM

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what even is a noclip/speed modifier?

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Mine's just a collider that pushes me past the collider of a map's wall

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provided there's a floor I can stand on, on the other side It usually works... I faceplant into wall... activate gesture... be on other side...

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often falling to my death

humble geode Dec 22, 2018, 4:37 PM

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They didn't. Last night people where able to get on top of the dynamic theater.

median basalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:40 PM

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All of mine work

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:40 PM

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I guess it’s behavior was modified and some setups broke, have seen two people saying theirs were broke. It that it was ever intended behavior

median basalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:40 PM

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Some people have way too convoluted setups lol

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:41 PM

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I just have a cube push me through wall

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different topic tho... Avatars with tails... Why do some have their tails literally coming out of the back instead of where tails are normally expected to come out of...

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:47 PM

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I just assumed most tails are a cosplay thing

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Like it’s normal to see cat ears with normal side ears too

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Or they always have hair long enough to cover them

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Lol

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:49 PM

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My friends are obsessed with animal bits

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:49 PM

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Yeah. I see that.. a lot. You could say.

still lark Dec 22, 2018, 4:49 PM

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I don't think I've seen a model with a correct tail placement

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:49 PM

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I'm like one of two that has a demoness avatar

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I didn't like any tails I've seen so I made a super low effort and low poly arrow tipped tail in Sketchup... a Program more at home making... well homes and furniture rather than tails...

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then stuck it where it's supposed to go

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:51 PM

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I wasn’t even aware sketchup could do skinned mesh

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:51 PM

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I made the mesh in Sketchup but rigged it in blender

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:51 PM

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Ah

opaque hawk Dec 22, 2018, 4:51 PM

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Does manually rigging hair so that it has only a couple bones for dynamic bones count as cheating (not a tip)

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:51 PM

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also UV mapped it in blender coz I still have no clue how to UV in sketchup

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:52 PM

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Of course it’s not cheating

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:52 PM

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how is reducing bone count cheating?

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that's like... a good thing

median basalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:52 PM

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That's how you're supposed to do it

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:52 PM

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But I am targeting excellent status so I can’t use dyn bones at all

opaque hawk Dec 22, 2018, 4:52 PM

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I think I jokingly replied to a really old post

median basalt Dec 22, 2018, 4:52 PM

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You can achieve very low bone counts while still making it look good by abusing auto weights

opaque hawk Dec 22, 2018, 4:53 PM

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discord didn't refresh until I typed something in

vestal star Dec 22, 2018, 4:53 PM

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Is the loophole issue fixed?

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:53 PM

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I also decided I had to cut holes in my avatar's clothes for the tail to go through

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:53 PM

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... what loophole.

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:53 PM

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coz... reee at tails going through things without holes in em

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Ears going through hats....

vestal star Dec 22, 2018, 4:54 PM

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The loading loop that some people are getting trapped in.

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:54 PM

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You’d hate my avatar

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:54 PM

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That's more a lottery on the network

languid beacon Dec 22, 2018, 4:54 PM

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My tail goes though my pants and my ears poke out my hat.

still lark Dec 22, 2018, 4:54 PM

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Triggered

woven steppe Dec 22, 2018, 4:54 PM

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At this point in time I have no network issues... but 6 hours ago... holy crap I'm trapped in my home world

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of polygons added by the clothing, dyn bones in the clothing etc