#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 679

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:16 AM

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like the lag one? people were jsut lagging for no reason

still lark Dec 21, 2018, 5:16 AM

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@languid beacon Wouldn't restarting steam be better?

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Merry Christmas vrchat i probably wont see any of u the next couple days so saying it now :)

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:16 AM

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:0 is that one thing fixed tupper or nah

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Didn't trigger it for me, @still lark

covert chasm Dec 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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@rigid crescent yes, it was a rogue script not playing nice

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fixed

still lark Dec 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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vrclike

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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It also gave people 8 hours to make chairs

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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guess I should install this new unity version so I can get on making stuff, 5th unity version here i come

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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@languid beacon or cars

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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so if we break it, just document it and email it? canny seems like a bad idea since thats just a guide

remote drum Dec 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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or mechs!

rough flax Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Everyone just get ready to blow the discord with complaints about your framerate

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Omg mechs i never thought of that omg!!! @remote drum

still lark Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Chairs was leaked for ages.

remote drum Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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😄

umbral oracle Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Make a canny and email it to hello@ is probably not a bad idea

empty wharf Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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I sure hope my avatars don’t got a bad rating

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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if they have 4 million materials, expect it to

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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I hope mine is at least medium

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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@empty wharf i rate it 11/10 IGN

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Let him cry.

remote drum Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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or a chair on the hand for the little avatars

royal pond Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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they'll probably mostly be marked as poor

golden violet Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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I hope mine are all poor

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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@umbral oracle Well making a canny detailing how an exploit works is most likely a bad idea is what I mean.

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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No guarantees, but I was just in a room with 40 people and all avatars showing, still had 45 fps

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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Mine should be poor like me irl

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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oh shet

empty wharf Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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Lmao

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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fixed many bugs in 8 hours ahaha

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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There's been big IK perf improvements in this

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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oh shnap

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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@placid umbra what cpu u use

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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does that mean colliders on every bone Pog /s

empty wharf Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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Well I’ll have to check this out

blissful meadow Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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KirbyF

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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@rigid crescent Emails are fine for bug reports if it's sensitive like that

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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im just chilling on my i7-2600 still

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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6700k

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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im a broke boy

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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I dont think i need to worry about getting poor on my henshins

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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I mean if they're not willing to understand it's not the end of the world, then you can't do anything but let them realize it themselves.

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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Think a ryzen 5 2600x will be good for vrchat?

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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@crystal plover His animations still work just like before

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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Their avatars all work just fine.

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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However im just worried of people blocking me for em when they see red star

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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more then enough in my opinion

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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hi Aev how you doing

covert chasm Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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@royal basin If an avatar does cool stuff, but is marked poor, I don't really care as a viewer.

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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Best i can tell you is make an alternate version without all the big stuff on it

covert chasm Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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But that's just me.

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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O good @half apex im using a amd fx 6300 atm

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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Yeahh

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It differs from persn to person

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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that'll be a BIG increase

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:20 AM

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@half apex ikr xD

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10 fps atm

remote drum Dec 21, 2018, 5:21 AM

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I hope my furbies rate as green 😃

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:21 AM

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my poor child

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:21 AM

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well i've been bitter enough for one day, gonna get in VR 👌 good to see a bunch of unfamiliar names on the discord tho

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:21 AM

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i see how it is aev ummmm

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:21 AM

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@half apex with fullbody hahahahaha

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:21 AM

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xd

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:21 AM

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He can keep doing it, Green. Nothing in the system prevents hisavatars from doing cool stuff

versed plank Dec 21, 2018, 5:21 AM

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To be honest i think they should have implemented the performance ranking system as numbers instead of icons

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Thanks a lot though i feel a bit better about this

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:22 AM

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It ranks his avatar low, which if he's doing big effects, everyone already knew lol

lone thicket Dec 21, 2018, 5:22 AM

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there where a bunch of concerns with public avatar cloning and Im sure not a lot of people got to test the feature in only 8 hours

versed plank Dec 21, 2018, 5:22 AM

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I can already see so many people being blocked gust because they used an avatar

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Now i can spawn a chair with my avatar to do fullbody "stuff" on person on chair?

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:22 AM

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The limits are pretty friendly, even if they end up hardcapped one day

covert linden Dec 21, 2018, 5:23 AM

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Woahwoah

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:23 AM

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Like what Floober? Most I saw were socially related ones, like people sharing crash avatars which was already possible.

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:23 AM

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Would you want numbers cluttering your screen whenever you look at someone

golden violet Dec 21, 2018, 5:23 AM

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Hard cap would be the worst idea

still otter Dec 21, 2018, 5:23 AM

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@crystal plover tell them peoples framerates and experience in VR are overall more important to the community than fancy animations. They can still make cool avatars and aims but just needs to be more careful about when and where they show them to others.

modest halo Dec 21, 2018, 5:23 AM

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what is the point of the performance system if most avatars are rated poor anyways GWmiyanoDisgust

lone thicket Dec 21, 2018, 5:23 AM

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easter egg avatars was the primary concern

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 5:23 AM

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so you know who to block @modest halo

lone thicket Dec 21, 2018, 5:23 AM

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sketchu has locked all her avatars private because we have no middle ground as creators

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:23 AM

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So u can block them

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:23 AM

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Yeah, that's also true as a concern.

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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@sick cobalt been a long week but I'm very glad it's out

versed plank Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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No

gloomy sequoia Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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Why is every avatar in every room red?

covert chasm Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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@modest halo Most aren't poor. I was just in a room with 35-40 people and some were medium, a few Poor, mostly Good

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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!cleancache try that

floral flaxBOT Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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@cold saddle not any different then when safety features came out

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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yeah could tell lol, noticed you peeps where on the closed beta alot

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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Because it judges people by literally one thing

distant charm Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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@lone thicket Avatar cloning has been in focus testing much longer than that, it's just only been in the open beta for a bit.

gloomy sequoia Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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No, I mean their circles.

still lark Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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So much testing was done. lol

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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it's not an average like it should be

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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open beta may have been short, but this release had a ton of testing

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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yeah I was on the closed beta memeing around from the start right til the finish

golden violet Dec 21, 2018, 5:25 AM

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I know if someone has blocked my avatar by just sitting down. If they look down when talking to me I'm not blocked. If they blocked me I block them Shrug

steep pagoda Dec 21, 2018, 5:25 AM

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o.o ton of testing.......
~~there are still so many issues~~

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Memeing around ...

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:25 AM

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it was the most fun i've had in VRChat for a while in general lol

lone thicket Dec 21, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Yeah focus testing doesn't matter when no one in the focus group cared about easter egg avatars

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and Im not sure why no middle ground for avatars could not be implemented

versed plank Dec 21, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Think this update should have been a little bit more delayed

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:25 AM

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@golden violet same if im blocked i block them too

versed plank Dec 21, 2018, 5:25 AM

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The beta was way tok short

gloomy sequoia Dec 21, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Mmm.

versed plank Dec 21, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Too*

covert linden Dec 21, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Im happy it happened, now I can make my avatars once im not busy

modest halo Dec 21, 2018, 5:26 AM

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most of the avatars i've seen so far are poor/very poor

distant charm Dec 21, 2018, 5:26 AM

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This is just the 1.0 of avatar cloning, they're likely to build upon it over time

lone thicket Dec 21, 2018, 5:26 AM

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there is no point in making maps for avatars when people can just get them off their friend

like the whole hook of having a map full of hidden avatars is gone

gloomy sequoia Dec 21, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Should make a way to announce to everyone playing there is an update so people realize they need to update so they can see their dang friends.

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Vrooooooooom thats the sound of my new car avatar

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:26 AM

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i dont think it'll be too big a deal

unkempt cliff Dec 21, 2018, 5:27 AM

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I don’t know why, but when I got on today a few hours ago, it feels like my descriptor moved forward. I could see the inside of my fingers if I got close enough which I could not even do before since the headset would block my hand. I don’t really know what happened but I didn’t notice any changes in Unity. Hoping I don’t need to reupload all my stuff.. again.

idle cipher Dec 21, 2018, 5:27 AM

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lol wow everyone's avatar including mine i've seen are all poor/verypoor

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:27 AM

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^

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:27 AM

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Rip

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:27 AM

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everyone will just ignore it imo

idle cipher Dec 21, 2018, 5:27 AM

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i dont see any frame drops with my avatar tho

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:27 AM

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L2 optimize

modest halo Dec 21, 2018, 5:27 AM

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that's why i think it was pointless to add this system

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:27 AM

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^

versed plank Dec 21, 2018, 5:27 AM

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It is not pointless

wary monolith Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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^^^

covert linden Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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At least I wont be judged for having very poor

rough flax Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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The game is literally unplayable right now

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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^^^^^^^^

tidal aspen Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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If people want to optimize they can, if they ignore it w/e

versed plank Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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But needs a diffrent way to show the performance

wary monolith Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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its point less

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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bro can we like start prompting people to update their games in vrchat when their is an update

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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^^^

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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^^^

umbral oracle Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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How is it unplayable

rough flax Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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I was getting 45 fps before this shit update, and now i'm getting 15

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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put it in your socail menu for now

still lark Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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@idle cipher Of course you wont, it's just you, but when there's 30-40 of you it gets bad.

gloomy sequoia Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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I've been crashing since the update before this, still crashing a lot.

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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I just wanted to put ^^^

umbral oracle Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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People are going to work to improve their avatars now

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In a month it won't be all red

gloomy sequoia Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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Can't load anything either.

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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helo me name raheem me get 91 pfs now me get 2 chickens

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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my name jeff

still lark Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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@gloomy sequoia Have you been reporting the crashes at all?

wary monolith Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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roll back pls and keep it there

still lark Dec 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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Not just ranting in Discord.

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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@gilded valley pfs? Whats dat

rough flax Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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Making the game run like shit on purpose to get people to optimize their avatars is not the way.

gloomy sequoia Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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True.

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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i know i'll be optimizing some current, and all future avatars from this point on.

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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On purpose

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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WAIT A MINUTE

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@half apex AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

umbral oracle Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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How is a red star have anything to do with the game running well

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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LOL

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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@vocal shardwhy do i have u blocked hmm?

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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saaaaah dude

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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Not going to entertain trolling, if you have feedback send it in an email @rough flax

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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@molten hornet Thanks for reminding me to block you

gloomy sequoia Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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Mmm.

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Hmm

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Seems I missed something whups

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Jeez, love having people telling me why they blocked me

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Or they have me blocked

rough flax Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Constructive feedback is consdered trolling now thonk

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Just gives me reason to return the favor and be cordial

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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🤔

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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There are indicators on what causes the ranking though

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Update went live eevee...

still lark Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Can drama go to #general-media @vocal shard @molten hornet ? 🤔

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Must be cause of how u act i guess

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Ik that Jamie

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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@placid umbra https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/525545290074423298/525545495180083210/unknown.png how do i get this to stop popping up

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Mini mod spotted antonnLUL

vagrant bobcat Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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@covert chasm my mother says it's passed my bed time but i want to play this awesome update!!! what do i do ?

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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And I wish it stayed in beta longer

gloomy sequoia Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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I can barely get into worlds, not sure if it's my internet or not.

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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That's whats up Jasyidk
You know what follows

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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great idea ping admins

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Too much dynamic bones, having colliders, too many skinned meshes, too big bounds, and too many materials

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:30 AM

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@still lark tru ill stop tis xmas

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:)

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 AM

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@vocal shard Would you rather a kick?

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 AM

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@vagrant bobcat join the dark side

bold quiver Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 AM

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and now i cant even log in after the new update

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 AM

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Gonna run on data since the internet here S U X

umbral oracle Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 AM

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@gilded valley same problem here, for months. Just got used to clicking ok. Popup about installation helper when it already works. I'm on win7

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 AM

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And I love when this stuff haappens

lone thicket Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 AM

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Im gonna leave it at this. A bunch of creators who would like to have control over if avatars can be cloned only found out about this feature when it was PUBLICALLY announced yesterday and now the update has almost immediately left open beta and is live a few days later.

And when these creators raised their concerns they where told to wait till the feature is public and that a middle ground could not be implemented.

Im sorry but a bunch of us feel very alienated atm and we're not sure what to do.

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 AM

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So what did u all wish for xmas?

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 AM

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@gilded valley Comes up even after you click the button?

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 AM

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And is that the real MsteLink

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 AM

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im scared

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:31 AM

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And the real Scared

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Famous map creator

vagrant bobcat Dec 21, 2018, 5:32 AM

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is that the real lonebeevee

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 5:32 AM

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@placid umbra its been showing up again for the past month now no matter how many times i press ok, everytime i close the game it shows uup

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:32 AM

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@vagrant bobcat I wish

umbral oracle Dec 21, 2018, 5:32 AM

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@lone thicket the usage of the private setting on avatars to prevent cloning by modded clients was announced months ago but maybe only in discord. I can't find the message so it may have been deleted

finite kraken Dec 21, 2018, 5:32 AM

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so the new avatar seats are out?

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:32 AM

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@gilded valley I'll need to look into the fix, can you send an email to support@vrchat.com and I'll follow up?

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:32 AM

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@umbral oracle ya it was

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 5:33 AM

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ight

half apex Dec 21, 2018, 5:33 AM

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@finite kraken i believe so

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:33 AM

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Thanks much

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:33 AM

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Mistake were made

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:33 AM

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Can we please clear something up?

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:33 AM

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I wish I was home so I could actually see what issues are happening

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:33 AM

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VeryPoor <--- This is an exclamation mark, not a red star.

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:33 AM

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Anyone u guys know how to uninstall a driver for steamvr? I tried playspace mover and cant use vr now cause of it

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:33 AM

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Adeon LOL

lone thicket Dec 21, 2018, 5:34 AM

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@umbral oracle
thats a security feature not this new public avatar cloning feature

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:34 AM

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Might as well be one

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 5:34 AM

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@placid umbra sent

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:34 AM

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Ya'll haven't even been in the game to know what the symbol is, stop complaining

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:34 AM

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Did k1nbot get the big yeet?

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Ohk nvn

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:34 AM

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O.o

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:34 AM

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His name is "still here"

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He's still here everyone

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:34 AM

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Is he though

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:35 AM

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Prob

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He's most likely hiding

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:35 AM

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We all hide

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:35 AM

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it's literally a yellow dot lol

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:35 AM

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~~Kronik is back too~~

split vortex Dec 21, 2018, 5:35 AM

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Lol me and a giant group had to close rn cause of the late night new update

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:35 AM

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shut up

split vortex Dec 21, 2018, 5:35 AM

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Perfect timing

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:35 AM

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No

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I talk if I want

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:36 AM

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stop being a toxic meanie

split vortex Dec 21, 2018, 5:36 AM

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Tf is going on

late dock Dec 21, 2018, 5:36 AM

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People are vote kicking people with more than 30 dynamic bone transforms, is this how the avatar stats system was intended to be used?

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:36 AM

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How am I being mean? Literally all I said was that you're back

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:36 AM

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LOL yeah the trust system had a rocky start and it normalized

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dont worry about it

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:36 AM

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its just a knee jerk reaction everyones having

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:36 AM

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It will be a bit.... Shakey for a while

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:36 AM

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I guess that's being toxic 🤷

late dock Dec 21, 2018, 5:36 AM

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Just gonna stick to invite only worlds for a couple weeks

tidal aspen Dec 21, 2018, 5:36 AM

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expecting people to not meme in the first day

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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invite only? just go to friends+ hello

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why kinda forehead only goes to invite+

storm stag Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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Cringe

late dock Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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block list over 20,000 long

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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lmao

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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Lmao

wild sleet Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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Remember when people used to be able to sell avatars? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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you still can wut

storm stag Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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Never ever go to public world again

wary monolith Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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^^^

covert linden Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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I cant wait to make loli towers

storm stag Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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Get demoted after an hour

umbral oracle Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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@late dock I've never seen public world group lobbies manage to successfully kick a troll with bad avatar and mic spamming. So I'd be impressed if they vote kicked a red star aside from making fun of the system

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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people who buy avatars typically want something customized. this avatar sharing doesnt fill that gap

storm stag Dec 21, 2018, 5:38 AM

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Cuz the block and vote kicked you

light pivot Dec 21, 2018, 5:38 AM

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wat? I see people get kicked in public all the time

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:38 AM

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that has very little impact on your trust rank, if any at all.

light pivot Dec 21, 2018, 5:38 AM

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like every time I go to public

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:38 AM

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i know people blocked by HUNDREDS and they were veteran

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:38 AM

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^ that

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:38 AM

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(and are still trusted btw)

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:38 AM

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@sick cobalt Can you explain though?

storm stag Dec 21, 2018, 5:39 AM

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Only japanese people blocked me but that was when i was new

opaque comet Dec 21, 2018, 5:39 AM

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How do i type for vr chat

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:39 AM

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All I said was that you were back now and that's somehow toxic

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:39 AM

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you cant type ingame

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:39 AM

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hitorgay

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:39 AM

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lmao

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:39 AM

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i mean you are trying to be rude about it, its obvious lol, stop being a smart ass

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:39 AM

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I'm getting kicked? Well if I'm going, I'm going out in style? 🤸

storm stag Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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My touhou and kemono friends modelllll

opaque comet Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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My mic is ass, so how do i talk in game without my mic

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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@vocal shard nooooo not here

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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Rude? Mk

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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you dont, @opaque comet

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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pinglurk

opaque comet Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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Ok thank you @rigid crescent

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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heart hitorgay

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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Also I'm not really tryna be smart about it either

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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Nooooooooo

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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🤦

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im done talking to you

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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I'm I just being the usual idiot I always am

earnest ermine Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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ricardo

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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@sick cobalt nice profile pic m8

modern sand Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 AM

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Let's not make this an emote spam

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:41 AM

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yeah xd

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:41 AM

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H*ntai :O

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Random chat time

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@atomic sage getting yeeted

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O H

earnest ermine Dec 21, 2018, 5:41 AM

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rip

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Yeet

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:41 AM

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They actually did oof

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Well then

finite kraken Dec 21, 2018, 5:41 AM

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how does the vrchat seating gestures work

queen mango Dec 21, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Time to go to random chat then.

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:42 AM

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The Ruuubick has been summoned

storm stag Dec 21, 2018, 5:42 AM

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Well i heard their gona improve this Avatar stats system sooo

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I guess its worth a wait

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:42 AM

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All remaining cards get sent to #general-media

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:42 AM

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I mean I assume you just put a station on your avatar.

storm stag Dec 21, 2018, 5:42 AM

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Besides i like this update

molten hornet Dec 21, 2018, 5:42 AM

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@umbral nova i play pot of greed

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:42 AM

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Unlike regular chairs, it can't have a trigger

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:43 AM

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Can't or doesn't require?

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:43 AM

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Avatars still can't have event handlers or triggers

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:44 AM

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And do chairs even require triggers in the first place?

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:44 AM

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I mean they never did, but that the most common type of chair was an OnInteract trigger

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:44 AM

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they automatically add oninteract

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if there's none

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:44 AM

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You can do other kinds I believe

still lark Dec 21, 2018, 5:44 AM

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Actually they strip triggers, and then add their own.

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:45 AM

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for avatars specifically you mean

still lark Dec 21, 2018, 5:45 AM

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Yeah

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:45 AM

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actually it won't let you upload it with a trigger anymore

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it'll make you remove it

still lark Dec 21, 2018, 5:45 AM

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anymore? 🤔

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:45 AM

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Which is fine because it never worked any way

finite kraken Dec 21, 2018, 5:46 AM

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so is the chairs system out?

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:46 AM

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Yes chairs are live

finite kraken Dec 21, 2018, 5:46 AM

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i got the sdk but idk how to make the chairs gesture work

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:47 AM

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because if you hard limit creativity more people will get mad

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 5:48 AM

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these numbers for the rating system are terrible

still lark Dec 21, 2018, 5:49 AM

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@earnest harbor You gonna explain why or just leave it at that?

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 5:49 AM

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a single dynamic bone and it's ranked poor? nice.

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:49 AM

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No it isn't @earnest harbor

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The numbers in paranthesis show you the "Excellent" threshold status. Really, just target for the medium ones.

finite kraken Dec 21, 2018, 5:50 AM

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so do i just add a world chair prefab to my model?

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 5:50 AM

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the target is 0

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:50 AM

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That won't work @finite kraken because you can't have triggers or events on avatars

burnt bolt Dec 21, 2018, 5:50 AM

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Hi everyone I have a quick question does anyone know how to fix playspace mover after the update mine broke 😕

finite kraken Dec 21, 2018, 5:50 AM

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then how does one get the chair gesture if it's live

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:50 AM

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Yes, the Excellent Threshold for dynamic bones is 0. that doesn't mean having 1 makes you poor.

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:50 AM

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The target for very good is 0, but as you add more, the ranking goes down

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:50 AM

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The number in parenthesis is the recommended amount. You can have dynamic bones and still be "good" if they're limited. I'd recommend reading the page for it

chilly current Dec 21, 2018, 5:51 AM

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I already don't like this update

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 5:51 AM

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how do you make avatars clonable

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:52 AM

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Make them public

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:52 AM

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Will the requirements for public WORLD avatars be changing at all? Maybe to match the Medium category? Maybe? 😛

chilly current Dec 21, 2018, 5:52 AM

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Its an easier gateway for model stealers now

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:52 AM

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Whu?

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 5:52 AM

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lmao

velvet quarry Dec 21, 2018, 5:52 AM

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I would suspect this is already the same system that was initially used for avatar stealing, which was patched up long ago.

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 5:53 AM

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set avatar to private

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really easy

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:53 AM

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DEVS HELP I CAN'T GET IN

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IM TOO DRUNK FOR THIS

covert linden Dec 21, 2018, 5:53 AM

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Hard to steal without the unity files

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:53 AM

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well i'm just saying if they could just outright say "public worlds must have medium avatars or better" that would like, give us more dynamic bone colliders. ; )

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:53 AM

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i dont wan tot talk to the 12 year old rec room people

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halp

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🤔

velvet quarry Dec 21, 2018, 5:53 AM

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@vocal shard I'd recommend sobering up first.

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 5:53 AM

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oh, apparently I do have one model that's not poor...

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:54 AM

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no

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:54 AM

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Most of my models were good or medium, happytimes

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:54 AM

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i'll sober up tomorrow when i have to be an adult but its DRUNK HOURS BABY

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:54 AM

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Excellent

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:54 AM

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NekoRainbow

velvet quarry Dec 21, 2018, 5:54 AM

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Aslong as you don't spam up this discord due to it.

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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only reason most of mine are in poor/very poor are dynamic bone transforms

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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you're right tho wrong channel but user support isn't helping

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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im going to like it how people use the system as a reason to block you completely, but i like to see how the system works 😃

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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check out bone merging @earnest harbor

velvet quarry Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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Mine are currently in the poor category due to my one bone collider, so I suppose I have to do some tweaking.

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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you can often get the same visual result wiih less lag

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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bone collider

queen mango Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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YokoSweat Oof.

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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insta block avatar

oblique crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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the beta is already live?

velvet quarry Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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Patch is indeed live

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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Elire with that sweat emote

queen mango Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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Already in live, Rin

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:55 AM

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its live on the normal ver

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:56 AM

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"Patch"

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 5:56 AM

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oh, no i actually have one that should be perfect...

oblique crescent Dec 21, 2018, 5:56 AM

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how do they fix any current bugs? the beta was literally not too long ago

velvet quarry Dec 21, 2018, 5:56 AM

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Its been in closed beta testing for several weeks

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 5:56 AM

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We're still waiting for that patch, people are reporting framerate issues

earnest ermine Dec 21, 2018, 5:56 AM

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thank I don't think I'll stop making hand colliders a thing, touch in vr is fairly important imo

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 5:56 AM

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@velvet quarry You can have up to 4 dynamic bone colliders and remain Medium status.

fathom nymph Dec 21, 2018, 5:57 AM

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if VRChat has a way to tell the number of polygons an avatar has, when why are avatars with more than 70,000 polygons still allowed and accessible? shouldn't they be at least "not allowed" to use or disabled/deleted?

velvet quarry Dec 21, 2018, 5:57 AM

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@languid beacon Yeah, my problem is the collision calculation is hitting 10, which puts it down to Poor.

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Limit to medium is 8

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:57 AM

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but at that point unity's gonna start splitting your meshes up and killing your shapekeys aka ey etracking and mouth movements so why would you even want to

fringe glade Dec 21, 2018, 5:57 AM

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so like people in the beta for several week were litteraly like "yeah no colliders seem like a good vr experience peepoChristmas " ? thinkin

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No it does not anymore.

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 5:57 AM

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@fathom nymph poly count doesnt affect performance. what kills it is too many skinned mesh renderers and materials

heady sequoia Dec 21, 2018, 5:58 AM

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2017 doesn't split meshes

fringe glade Dec 21, 2018, 5:58 AM

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Welcome in unity 2017

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:58 AM

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dynaamic bones are nice but at least be considerate of frames man no colilders is reasonable

velvet quarry Dec 21, 2018, 5:58 AM

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2017 will only split meshes into the millions, if not billions of polys, I don't recall the specific number

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:58 AM

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huh

fringe glade Dec 21, 2018, 5:58 AM

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2.5M still does not split.

velvet quarry Dec 21, 2018, 5:58 AM

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You'd hardly need anything above 70k though, my primary avatar is 5k, and looks pretty good due to its normal maps.

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 5:58 AM

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wait what nice

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:58 AM

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I think it splits at like, 2.7 billion

sullen escarp Dec 21, 2018, 5:58 AM

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^

fathom nymph Dec 21, 2018, 5:59 AM

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@true sky if that's the case, then why does the SDK limit polygons rather than skinned mesh and materials?

sullen escarp Dec 21, 2018, 5:59 AM

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should be like 2^31 iirc

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 5:59 AM

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the fact that you're starting witch hunts because of this....

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 5:59 AM

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at that point, multiple meshes is not your main concern lol

steep pagoda Dec 21, 2018, 5:59 AM

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lol framerate issues? its litteraly worse then it was in 5.6 near the end (witch was already bad)
2017 improved sooo much in term of performance
and now we went back to square one

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 6:00 AM

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@fathom nymph Probably because after 65k polys, the mesh splits into two parts

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creating a 2nd skinned mesh

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:00 AM

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from what i heard lego th enew update doesn't do that?

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 6:00 AM

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@velvet quarry It may be higher, but the highest integer I can recall would be 2,147,483,647

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:00 AM

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im drunk right now tho dont trust me

steep pagoda Dec 21, 2018, 6:00 AM

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@true sky that no longer happens

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 6:00 AM

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So unless you want a model that high poly to test that

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Suggest starting lower lol

steep pagoda Dec 21, 2018, 6:01 AM

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in 2017 mesh poly limit in unity is 4billion XD
no longer 65535

earnest ermine Dec 21, 2018, 6:01 AM

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oof people are trying to kick you for not having a very poor model and then there's also people trying to kick them

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vrc battle royale

tidal aspen Dec 21, 2018, 6:01 AM

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epic 😎

earnest ermine Dec 21, 2018, 6:01 AM

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guess I'll take another break from vrc

queen mango Dec 21, 2018, 6:01 AM

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What the? People kicking you for having lag-free avatars?

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YokoSweat

earnest ermine Dec 21, 2018, 6:02 AM

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does that surprise you?

queen mango Dec 21, 2018, 6:02 AM

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Yes

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 6:02 AM

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still spoofing numbers btw

queen mango Dec 21, 2018, 6:02 AM

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Just why? YokoStress

earnest ermine Dec 21, 2018, 6:02 AM

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why not

tidal aspen Dec 21, 2018, 6:02 AM

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people are petty

earnest ermine Dec 21, 2018, 6:02 AM

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they're trying to make fun out of it in their own way I suppose

fathom nymph Dec 21, 2018, 6:02 AM

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not as surprising as people being able to "force logout" other players

tidal aspen Dec 21, 2018, 6:03 AM

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it's like when the trust system thing happened, people memeing and people doing it out of spite

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:03 AM

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so apparently having 1 dynamic bone is enough to have poor ranking? laffeyDrink

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 6:04 AM

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Nope

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:04 AM

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it's the transform that nukes rating

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 6:05 AM

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Aev plz be my friend in vrchat sadcate i wanna hangout with u peeps every once in a while

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:05 AM

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how are you people even logging in me and like a billion other people can't even enter the game

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@sick cobalt go to vrchat events if you want ot meet devs and people who know devs dorko

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 6:05 AM

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Why dont my flying colliders work anymore?? @placid umbra

sick cobalt Dec 21, 2018, 6:05 AM

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i know aev

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:05 AM

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i'm just checking my main avatars. so that they aren't stigma'd by poor rating lol

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:05 AM

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sup

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:05 AM

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thank god they are good and medium aniblobsweat

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 6:06 AM

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@gilded valley I think a method of doing it was fixed/broken, it's definitely still possible

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:06 AM

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just have watch how much dyanmic bone you use

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 6:06 AM

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wtf

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:06 AM

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Wait... That update here already? I was just reading about it in the documentation like yesterday.

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 6:06 AM

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why was it changed???

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 6:07 AM

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It's a bug in the first place, these things aren't guaranteed to work

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:07 AM

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damn. i guess rip hair physics peepoStudy

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unless you want to run around with a very poor rating

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:08 AM

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So how many people have complained already with the stars?

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:08 AM

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my main avatars are fine

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just not the ones where i did some extra

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:08 AM

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only thing need to do reduce the bone in hair

delicate stump Dec 21, 2018, 6:08 AM

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If you sit on a station that is on the avatar of someone sitting on you, you get flung into space. This is your punishment for breaking physics. Workaround: Don't do this-- or do, and accept the wrath of Newton

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:08 AM

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all the ones where i put real hair physics on they are pretty much very poor

idle nova Dec 21, 2018, 6:09 AM

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Why can not I see my friends?

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:09 AM

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in the menu or in the world?

placid umbra Dec 21, 2018, 6:09 AM

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Either they need to update VRC, or you do

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:09 AM

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so when can we get vrc classic?

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:10 AM

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@earnest harbor never update lol

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:10 AM

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if only 😦

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:11 AM

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hmmmm

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:11 AM

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I'm just soo happy I get to make my safety setting higher so I don't get crashed for using a public model that's ranked as very poor colbert

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:11 AM

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yea the public model that i use frequently is poor

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only because of 13 dynamic bone collision counts

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:11 AM

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some with to many material or to many bone in skirt and hair

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 6:12 AM

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legit one of the only fun things about this game was being able to fly on my bird and now thats fucking gone too lmao

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fuck this game

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:12 AM

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except people with logout crashers still bypass safety settings anyways

idle nova Dec 21, 2018, 6:12 AM

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I enter the map on the friend or he enters mine and I do not see he did not understand why ??

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:12 AM

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system is a good idea. but it seems flawed

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:12 AM

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love how we alow them to still do that and witch hunt 👌

vast tulip Dec 21, 2018, 6:12 AM

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wait, you have 13 dynamic bone colliders?

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:13 AM

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a public avatar

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 6:13 AM

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@gilded valley If you want it back, just open up a canny post

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vrchat.canny.io

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:13 AM

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one i like to use, has poor rating because of 13 dynamic bone collision check counts peepoStudy

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:13 AM

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what they remove collider when touch your avatar?

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 6:13 AM

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all broken

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:14 AM

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I still find it odd that people make it seem that the performance rating is a bad idea

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:14 AM

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hm? i think it's a good idea

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:14 AM

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i think good thing show people need figure way fix there avatar

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without guessing

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:14 AM

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but idk if i'm "stealing frames" if i have 13 collision counts

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:14 AM

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@woven steppe it's that we wanted to see our own rating, not allow everyone else to see it

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 6:14 AM

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its sorta a problem with people who are picky and expect everyone to be very good performing

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:15 AM

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dude collision takes a bunch of cpu cycles even moreso than just havnig straight dynamic bones which are already a bane on our frames

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:15 AM

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so if you have a skirt and have a collider in your hip to make it not clip through, expect poor rating laffeyDrink

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:15 AM

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weight painting skirt to leg and and hair can make less bone do alot thing

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:15 AM

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you really don't need colliders if you do the mix of weight painting and bones the right way on skirts reeeee

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:15 AM

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I mean I could be reasonably certain of how good someone's avatar performs without it anyway but it just makes it easier now.

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:15 AM

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"Several people are typing" - The Channel

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:16 AM

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yeah cause half of us can't even log in so we're here

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:16 AM

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@woven steppe make it easier for crashers to justify their "job/crusade" you mean?

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:16 AM

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The funky part is that VRC has gone through two somewhat major updates and I still haven't finished the avatar I started making on the start of november

idle cipher Dec 21, 2018, 6:16 AM

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im getting ugandan knuckles flash back with this puclic avatar copying

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:16 AM

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and did you remove my post for saying gay im a fag irl reee

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:17 AM

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Eh, just be like the avatar status system, give it a 9/10. Extreme terrible and needs work.

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:17 AM

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cat plugin can reduce avatar with 30 material into 4

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:17 AM

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thats why you atlas reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

vast tulip Dec 21, 2018, 6:17 AM

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I would love to see the avatar stats of the people who think its terrible :P

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:18 AM

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I would love to

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:18 AM

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And people say it's a good way to teach people how to optimize avatars. I ask how

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:18 AM

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force them to do it not be lazy lol

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:18 AM

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My favorite part of VRC is the calamity that is any major update.

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:18 AM

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well, my friend has an optimized avatar with 20k polys and his only dynamic bone are 3 hair bones with a collider in the head and it has a poor rating apparently

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only 2 materials

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 6:19 AM

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no pepe emotes allowed @strange wagon vrpill

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:19 AM

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Because you know, everything being good to great, but have 4 mesh renderers because I use my tail and ears for animations. So it's apparently bad.

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:19 AM

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i keep forgetting that

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cause i use them frequently everywhere

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:20 AM

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@opaque jewel just combine into one mesh in blender

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:20 AM

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gomene atpQuan

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:20 AM

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I use them for animations.

vast tulip Dec 21, 2018, 6:20 AM

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its not going to teach you how to optimize. it's going to teach you you need to. #avatar-optimization can teach you how

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:20 AM

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So you tell me how to do that and make them disappear no problem and I'll do that.

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:20 AM

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@strange wagon the problem is >with a collider

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colliders are checking every frame for the dynamic bone hitting it they're cancer

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you can do just as good with good weight painting + just bones

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:21 AM

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it's like having three props.

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:21 AM

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This avatar I'm making is going to be very poor rating if I have to guess

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:21 AM

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@opaque jewel cat plugin for blender

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make it easy to do it

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:21 AM

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And I wouldn't mind

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 6:21 AM

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the announcement thing when loading in is really small and cant read it

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:21 AM

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So how can I make it where just my ears and tail disappear?

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 6:21 AM

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in new update

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:21 AM

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idk if i want to spend time weight painting because i despise it

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:22 AM

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weight paint the front of the skirt

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and dynamic bone the sides

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 6:22 AM

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if its got really low polys, add some cloth 😃

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:22 AM

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@opaque jewel make them into blendshape

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 6:22 AM

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all i wanna say is i hope there's a better alternative for dynbones in the future

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:22 AM

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my main avatar doesn't use a collider. so my main avatar isn't gimped by the rating laffeyDrink

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:22 AM

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@opaque jewel that go in your head in your head and butt

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 6:22 AM

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@gilded valley my method of flying colliders still work

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Thank you

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 6:23 AM

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none of ours work

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Mine probably does still

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:23 AM

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just to let you know, not being a smartass. Just literally thank you

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 6:23 AM

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My friend Octuplex has the same setup

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Didn't even think of that.

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Since I sent him mine

gilded valley Dec 21, 2018, 6:23 AM

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literally every model i have that has it is shit now

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 6:23 AM

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He says it still work

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:23 AM

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You all realize that everyone is just going to ignore the whole rating system in a few weeks, right? I mean, except for you niche creators who really care about it.

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Shit maybe just a few days

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:24 AM

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it just make for event host to know who make event lag

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:24 AM

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only people I'm worried about it are crashers

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:24 AM

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a lot of people who have a shit rig are probably gonna start blocking people with poor rating

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:24 AM

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None of my friends are bothered

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:24 AM

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@raven silo thank ye, sometimes takes more than one perspective and I'm just slightly annoyed by the system.

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:24 AM

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And the rating system will be refined and changed down the line ... This is more of a rough first version

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:25 AM

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since they'll use the rating system to justify their crusade

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@vocal shard what's sad is we told them that the starting numbers were too harsh...

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:25 AM

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Now if the devs decide to implement and auto-block based on avatar perf rating, that would be fucked.

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:25 AM

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@opaque jewel it not like take your stuff away

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:25 AM

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but they didn't listen

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:25 AM

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They did they changed it already

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:25 AM

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yea update today

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:26 AM

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it's not based off overall, it's off lowest rating

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:26 AM

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@pliant prawn i can see that coming tbh

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:26 AM

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From the first reveal, it was discussed here and they upped it

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:26 AM

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@raven silo it's all good. It was more on the side of "I made sure to try and optimize this as best as possible and it's still apparently crap"

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 6:26 AM

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@opaque jewel i get that feel

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:26 AM

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so that just made me annoyed and blind a bit

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 6:27 AM

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i was expecting at least a medium

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:27 AM

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@earnest harbor from tupper earlier on that same subject of averaging it
We thought about it a bit. This is the v1 implementation. We're looking at more advanced ways to weight the "score" to give a better overall rank. That's for v2 though.

halcyon matrix Dec 21, 2018, 6:27 AM

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How are you guys enjoying the vrchat update, having fun?

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 6:27 AM

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deadinside

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:27 AM

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like my model with a pair of bones no colliders and 300k tris is very poor, despite itself not having an impact on others' performance on lower end systems

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:27 AM

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well, any type of collider will nuke your rating

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:27 AM

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I lile the update... Ive got 10 more fps than normal

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:27 AM

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single material, single texture

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:27 AM

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same thing for a friend of mine too, optimized af but 1 collider and rip rating

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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they should honestly do more of an average scoring system unless one thing is in the red, but I don't know

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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dyanmic bone collider make go up high lol https://i.gyazo.com/12ed3a9b8381e318867d5e5897a69521.png

halcyon matrix Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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Nothing wrong with discord wars

opaque jewel Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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See how it plays out

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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@earnest harbor 300k polygons you say? vrpill vrpill vrpill

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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I personally never used dynamic bones.

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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They said they'll work on averaging it later

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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they should instead have kept the system private like is should've been

halcyon matrix Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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It's good to release stress by

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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i only care about dynamic bones in medium short to long hair

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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Just right now they wanted to get it out

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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Well anyway since the update I'm not crashing constantly and FR has improved so good job VRC devs for once.

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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ive used cloth physics on hair and clothes ever since I started.

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:29 AM

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rushing a bad system isn't a good way of fixing a "problem"

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:29 AM

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@woven steppe what rating you get

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:29 AM

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i used force on some avatars to make real hair physics, that also nukes the rating lol

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 6:29 AM

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do you need to separate meshes for cloth?

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:29 AM

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sorry, a "very poor" system

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:29 AM

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@royal basin yea

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:29 AM

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@earnest harbor I see what you did there

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:29 AM

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no idea but Im predicting very poor coz I have 5 mats and 9 meshes.

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 6:29 AM

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damn

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:30 AM

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cloth need mesh

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:30 AM

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not just the cloth

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:30 AM

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if you don't have a collider you're good lol

vast tulip Dec 21, 2018, 6:30 AM

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5 mats and 9 meshes would not get you "very poor"

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:30 AM

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you can expect any avatar with a collider on it to get atleast poor

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:30 AM

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I decided I dont want to upload 8 separate avatar variants in different clothes.

unkempt cliff Dec 21, 2018, 6:31 AM

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Has anyone experienced their descriptors seeming to be pushed forward in-game? For some reason, despite my descriptors being in the middle of my eyes, the sphere being a bit submerged with the surface of the face, if I put my fingers which are human sized near my face, I can see the inside of them. This never happened before from what I could notice as I could never even get my hands that close to my face because of the headset.

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:31 AM

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so I made my ava be able to change clothes

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:31 AM

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But without colliders how else am I supposed to play with my big anime tiddies?

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:32 AM

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jUsT wEiGtHpAiNt

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:32 AM

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still can

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:32 AM

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I guess you can still use them and just get medium score

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:32 AM

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see... cloth collides with disabled colliders so my 50 capsules and spheres are all disabled but interacts with the cloth... gonna go look later to see what my collider count is at.

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:32 AM

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dont worry about the star only worry about people doing event lol

jagged mural Dec 21, 2018, 6:33 AM

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Having a bit of trouble. Not a single one of my avatars are "optimized" and people are blocking me

fervent fossil Dec 21, 2018, 6:33 AM

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why is "Avatar cloning" a thing now? nobody asked for this

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:33 AM

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for public avatars i guess

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why is that a problem

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:33 AM

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just make sure your avatar dont want to be copy set to private

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:33 AM

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public avatars are available to everyone no?

fervent fossil Dec 21, 2018, 6:33 AM

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adding public avatars as your favorites was enough

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:34 AM

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even the public set one

unkempt cliff Dec 21, 2018, 6:34 AM

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You can disable avatar cloning, even on public avatars.

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:34 AM

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i don't see an issue in cloning public world avatars

sonic elk Dec 21, 2018, 6:34 AM

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well you could argue it makes it much harder to spot avatar stealers

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:34 AM

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so make sure there private dont want random person use them

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:34 AM

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another person who didn't read the fine print

unkempt cliff Dec 21, 2018, 6:34 AM

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It’s not a big deal. It can be enabled or disabled at any point.

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:34 AM

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"stealing" public world avatars?

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:34 AM

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to be fair... it is VERY fine

fervent fossil Dec 21, 2018, 6:34 AM

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fair for you

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:35 AM

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you even change setting

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turn it off

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:35 AM

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If it really puts you off... then just don't use the feature

fervent fossil Dec 21, 2018, 6:36 AM

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my question is, why do we have to go through all that to turn off the feature when we shouldn't even have this feature in the first place?

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:36 AM

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it just make raid event eaiser

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:36 AM

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This

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:36 AM

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I wish I could disable this avatar ranking "feature"

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:36 AM

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Stop being lazy and just do it

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:36 AM

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i would understand if it's your own avatars. but afaik this feature is for public world avatars only.

fervent fossil Dec 21, 2018, 6:37 AM

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how about you stop defending this crap?

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:37 AM

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avatar ranking system there so make people aware need optimize if didnt do this might lose more stufff

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:37 AM

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i'm not defending it, i don't see any issue with it.

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:37 AM

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Supposedly the avatar cloning in testing helped promote smaller avatar worlds and circulate less used avatars

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:37 AM

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I'm not defending this crap... I'm just amused at how you're so offended by it

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:37 AM

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like it would be the same thing if people go to that world and take it for themselves

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:37 AM

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would you perfer them limit dynamic bone more

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:37 AM

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blobshrug

earnest harbor Dec 21, 2018, 6:37 AM

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@raven silo then make it private and stop giving crashers justification

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:37 AM

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Also the avatar rating system apparently does not count my disabled colliders

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so yeah... 0 colliders

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:38 AM

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👌

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:38 AM

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my disabled colliders that still do their job lol

fervent fossil Dec 21, 2018, 6:38 AM

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shitty update with shitty features. lol

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:38 AM

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meanwhile 1 collider is enough to give you poor

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:38 AM

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well it of not use cpu

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only when it on does

tidal aspen Dec 21, 2018, 6:38 AM

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I don't see the issue with avatar cloning, you can turn if off if you dont' want people using the avatar you're currently wearing (if it's public)

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:38 AM

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No, one collider will put you to medium

sonic elk Dec 21, 2018, 6:39 AM

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issue is the avatar rating system is poinhtless. mkost will be poor cause of snail marker

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 6:39 AM

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time to optimize my 2k poly model:
https://i.imgur.com/inJOMyz.png

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Even if its public you can turn it off @tidal aspen

fervent fossil Dec 21, 2018, 6:39 AM

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I hope to god someone makes a shitty avatar that can cause lag and have people clone it

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:39 AM

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i have snail marker on every avatar. and the only avatars that are medium and below are the ones that have atleast 1 collider

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:40 AM

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@fervent fossil Just go to any avatar world my dude

tidal aspen Dec 21, 2018, 6:40 AM

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people already do that with avatar worlds xd

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:40 AM

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LUL

fervent fossil Dec 21, 2018, 6:40 AM

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lol nice

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 6:40 AM

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i dont see any animator

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:40 AM

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like legit i have one avatar that only has dynamic hair and skirt and a hip collider and it's poor

fervent fossil Dec 21, 2018, 6:40 AM

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i dont' even think dynamic bones have any impact on performances?

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:40 AM

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Because its poorly optimized? Maybe that is why?

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:40 AM

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barely.

sonic elk Dec 21, 2018, 6:40 AM

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have an avatar with 0 bones or collideres. no snail markder and very good. add snail marker and goes to pooir

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:41 AM

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Dynamic bones and colliders are the hardest hitters as we've been told by the team

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:41 AM

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Nick- Lets just say you can be happy you said that right now with these people instead of any dev or alike around...

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:41 AM

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well i have snail marker on all of mine. and most are good

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:41 AM

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mine only has ear dynamic bones so 2, and its poorly optimized its great

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:41 AM

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they are EXTREMELY bad for the game, take up more then most game systems when done bad and colliders are pretty much an x2 against the performance count

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:42 AM

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bad colliders yea. but one?

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:42 AM

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@wicked marsh Two scripts or two calculated bones

fervent fossil Dec 21, 2018, 6:42 AM

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the only thing that you'll have to worry about with avatars is the shaders, how many materials they have, and if they have any colliders

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:42 AM

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@strange wagon It still adds a lot

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:42 AM

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just 2 normal bones

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It might be the materials tho cause its a xenoverse 2 rip

tidal aspen Dec 21, 2018, 6:43 AM

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you can open the avatar's details to see what's giving it the ranking @wicked marsh

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:43 AM

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@fervent fossil Not sure who fed you that false information but

Dynamic bone colliders + Colth colliders
Dynamic bone and cloth
Lose meshes
Materials
Polygons

In that order is how bad the peformance hits are

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:43 AM

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I never really got around to using dynamic bones

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:43 AM

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ye its his 10 materials xD

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:43 AM

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when I started I didn't have the asset for it

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:43 AM

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hair made out of plastic doesn't look good you know

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:44 AM

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Weight paint it right- Merge useless bones being transformed and you can still be anything above poorly optimized

tawdry hinge Dec 21, 2018, 6:44 AM

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Yeah hair concrete went out of style after FF7

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:44 AM

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so I always used cloth... and when I did get some bootleg dynamic bone asset from a friend... I never figured out how the hell to make it work properly.

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:44 AM

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It would be a flat out lie if they claimed that anything with dynamic bones or cloth is optimized

fervent fossil Dec 21, 2018, 6:44 AM

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bruh, I have avatars that have like a bajillion dynamic bones on some of my avatars and I have a shitty PC and it runs smoothly even with other people around and they don't have any issues

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:45 AM

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It's not about ONE avatar lagging people

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:45 AM

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yea i only have a medium rig too. so idk what these performance rating are based off of. of what system

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Tbh- Im not even going to bother defending facts after you stated that
You clearly stated you do not understand how calculating systems works, rendering and unity...

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Also it's your avatar... So you're not looking at it 🤔

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:45 AM

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VRC player not looking at a mirror? this is new

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:45 AM

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kek

fervent fossil Dec 21, 2018, 6:45 AM

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if you ahve any gaming development knowledge, you'd know that bones in general don't impact gaming performances.

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:45 AM

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this is mirror simulator

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:46 AM

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because we all know that the best content is yourself

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a mirror helps you see it XD

sonic elk Dec 21, 2018, 6:46 AM

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well technically there there is 1 thing even worse than dynamic bones. the IK itself is shit

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:46 AM

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If this is the state of gamedevs is not odd we get games like Fallout 76

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:46 AM

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20 people with dynamic bone 20 bone hair on your cpu would be process 400 bone to make sure there move with dyanmic bone

sullen escarp Dec 21, 2018, 6:46 AM

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hey don't diss todd's game

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:46 AM

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@sonic elk Not anymore-- There are plenty of avatars with worse dynamic bone performance then IK takes

tidal aspen Dec 21, 2018, 6:46 AM

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@fervent fossil can you tell me how calculating how each and every bone moves and influences the other bones per frame doesn't affect performance

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:47 AM

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Todd loves his mirrors

sullen escarp Dec 21, 2018, 6:47 AM

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he worked hard on his new game

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:47 AM

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I got a shit laptop so I always spend most of my time in smaller friend groups with like less than 10 people

royal basin Dec 21, 2018, 6:47 AM

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same

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:47 AM

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that said the new update gave me like 10 extra fps

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:47 AM

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dont worry about star then

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if with friends

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:47 AM

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vr needs a decent rig to begin with, why cater to potato systems then?

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:47 AM

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That is purely because the IK changed

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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that's what i would want to know atleast

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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I don't avoid public even with my shit laptop

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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The IK and VOIP got improved realllyyy good
Only thing shit right now from the game are nameplates

tawdry hinge Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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Not really gonna care about the rating system itself but if people start giving shit for avatar ratings then like tf.

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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I just disable shaders and I swim around in public pugs quite a bit...

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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@tawdry hinge this will 100% happen

tawdry hinge Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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I know.

sonic elk Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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tell that to full body useres after the update itrs fucked 2 full body and frames disapear. was fine before. there are ;people posting about it @umbral reef

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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@tawdry hinge Tbh- Depending the rating they should
If someone knows what they are talking about they can judge a bad avatar fair

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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im usually only in friends+ anyway and most my friends have worse stuff being in the db community so they cant say anything xD

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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See the best raid is if you all use the same account

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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and because of that i'd feel bad running around with a poor avatar in public lol

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:48 AM

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@strange wagon because the devs are walking this fine line between letting people with powerful rigs do what they want, and keeping the game accessible to the general public.

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:49 AM

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If its like because of the avatar box its stupid to call them out
If its because of billion unmerged things and dynamic bones- Fuck yes yell at them

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:49 AM

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A small room with a couple people, go all out. A full room with unoptimized avatars has lagged 1080ti's... So can't say "my avatar doesn't affect performance, you just have a potato pc"

tawdry hinge Dec 21, 2018, 6:49 AM

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Safety system is there for people with worse rigs

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But again, it is a VR game.

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:49 AM

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yea

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:49 AM

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@sonic elk They ran a ~~retardedly~~ short beta so that happens because of that...
Its stupid they did it that short and its prob- a fix they should not have pushed because of that

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:49 AM

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TFW you can afford a VR headset but can't afford a rig to run said headset

tawdry hinge Dec 21, 2018, 6:50 AM

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8 hour long beta I was told, thats.. hectically short

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:50 AM

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But the rule still stands- The IK system overall improved in performance by a lot

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 6:50 AM

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I wonder how to fix this when uploading avatars and worlds:

  at Mono.Security.Protocol.Tls.SslStreamBase.InternalWriteCallback (IAsyncResult ar) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ```

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:50 AM

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The closed beta was weeks apparently though

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:50 AM

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blobshrug

tawdry hinge Dec 21, 2018, 6:50 AM

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Yeah but 8 hours isn't really long enough to get a proper public opinion

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:50 AM

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mxr is the worst for lagging for no reason on vrchat its great

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:50 AM

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people who were asleep probably didn't know a beta happened... like me

true sky Dec 21, 2018, 6:50 AM

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i have been unable to update anything since i got that error every time

tawdry hinge Dec 21, 2018, 6:50 AM

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Ditto

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:51 AM

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@tawdry hinge My 8700K would like to talk when it jumps from 90 FPS to 30 when i jump towards a different room purely because of avatars

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:51 AM

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better hide avatars that are very poor rated then Kappa

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:51 AM

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also my flying thing still works... I recall someone in here saying that the game sucks now because they can't fly.

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:51 AM

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@strange wagon you shut your mouth

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:52 AM

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deoKek

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:52 AM

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@strange wagon i will

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:52 AM

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atpRtsd

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:52 AM

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And il have no shame in it

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:52 AM

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Don't give them any ideas

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:52 AM

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perfect

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:52 AM

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Why the fuck should i look at a laggy as fuck avatar thats prob just a potato mirror anyway?
Doesnt add anything to my game and only ruins my performance from peeps with neat animations and shit 👏

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:52 AM

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i'm just glad my main avatar is medium lmao

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:53 AM

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All i gotta do to get Fu back to optimized is learn to atlus in blender

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:53 AM

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Like shit- Im all against the trust system and stuff but i like the idea of this
Just that the numbers need tweaking what the staff also knows

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:53 AM

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everything else is green

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:53 AM

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@wicked marsh
Atlassing in 3 steps
Install cats
Press ALTAS button
Profit

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:53 AM

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oh bOY

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:53 AM

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Oclac is triggered

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 6:54 AM

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He just woke up ^^

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:54 AM

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ok but the hard parts I gotta find and assign the materials cause its a rip xD

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cats is magical

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:54 AM

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Well no- Its just peeps are saying a lot of uneducated things 👀
Im being really short and blund as else id be typing books as to what they can do

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:54 AM

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Got 'em

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:55 AM

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@wicked marsh If you only run ~3 materials in the end its easy to export them and assign them manually
Its a lot less bad as when its unmerged and stuff

wicked marsh Dec 21, 2018, 6:55 AM

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thankies

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:56 AM

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one good thing no more need destory avatar ploygon

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lol

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:56 AM

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@raven silo there never was a need tbh

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Even my idiot friends knew how to edit the SDK

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:57 AM

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It was indeed ~~mainly~~ useless

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:57 AM

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I never really did that since I just uploaded my avatar with the mesh disabled... then an animation activates it when I'm in the world.

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No idea how to edit the SDK and isn't that illegal?

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:57 AM

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With the old version you had to stay below 65K polys to not get a plit mesh
Right now that number is in a few millions if i recall right

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:57 AM

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it against rules even talk about it

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:57 AM

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Editing the SDK was never monitored anyway because of what you said ACH

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But its technically against the rules

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:58 AM

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only bits I had that went over 65k were some props I made in sketchup

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 6:58 AM

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feels like a greyzone. everyone did it (or mostly everyone)

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:58 AM

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But they still approved avatars worlds who had it

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:58 AM

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coz... sketchup

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:58 AM

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might change next review lol

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:58 AM

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@woven steppe If its not part of the main model it changes nothings
Props are there own lose thing when your looking at avatars imo

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 6:58 AM

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Yep. Everyone was fighting the 20k limit since the start

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 6:58 AM

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might not let upload till fix them

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some world have alot material on there avatar

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:59 AM

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I been always for a dynamic bone cap- Mesh cap and material cap
One at like 500 transforms with 5 colliders
not more then 5 mesh
And 10 materials

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there is almost no reason at all to ever go above those

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 6:59 AM

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I should only have 2 materials but shader rendering made my transparent material be wonky

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and had to split it into 3

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 6:59 AM

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Maybe the bones even higher GWnanamiLaceShrug I dont use them lagg machines so

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 7:00 AM

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make sure put transparent material on it own material

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:00 AM

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I know

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I just said that

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 7:00 AM

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all i want is dynamic hair and that's it blobshrug

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 7:00 AM

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just need reduce the bone

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 7:00 AM

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and ofc.... plot

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:00 AM

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p l o t

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and sometime backstory

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 7:00 AM

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smoogbucky

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:01 AM

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The problem is that my shader doesn't seem to understand how one transparent material should be rendered when it was in front of another transparent material

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so those two things are in separate materials now

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 7:01 AM

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2 transparent materials on top of each other sounds like it's only gonna look bad

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blobthinkingglare

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:02 AM

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I managed to make it work but the downside is that I've got 5 mats instead of 2

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:02 AM

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Tbh- I still cant wait for the heaps on content creators toflood this chat and complain there stuff is no unoptimized but was fine before

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 7:03 AM

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one collider with a certain amount of collisions can give you an ez poor so yea

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:03 AM

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I know my shit's unoptimized but I ain't complainin.. I made it that way... heck 5 materials lol

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:03 AM

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You mean the heaps of people who keep this free game popular?

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:03 AM

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no colliders tho

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:03 AM

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Well- Im more talking about the very poorly optimized rank or how its called

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Anyone on poorly optimized has to be manually judged imo
Anything above is totally fine GWnanamiLaceShrug

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:04 AM

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Very poor

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 7:04 AM

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there is very poor and poor. and i think both are equally bad

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:04 AM

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I still want a weighting system

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:04 AM

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Yo, mine's very poor

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 7:04 AM

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medium would be the limit for me

ancient kayak Dec 21, 2018, 7:04 AM

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i have a question.. if i accidentally enable people to copy my avatar, can he/she still use it after i disable it?

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:04 AM

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My avatars shouldn't be held down because I have audio sources on it

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:04 AM

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because of that clothes changting shenanigans I got

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:05 AM

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When they're inactive at first

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:05 AM

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@umbral nova fairly sure the devs themself also want that but more as version 2 of this system

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:05 AM

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Yeayea ik

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 7:05 AM

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why audio even rank lol

strange wagon Dec 21, 2018, 7:05 AM

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@ancient kayak if they copied it before you disabled it, probably.

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:05 AM

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But still, A U D I O

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 7:06 AM

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i dont think audio use much cpu

opaque hawk Dec 21, 2018, 7:06 AM

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it can

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:06 AM

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still means it uses cpu tho

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:06 AM

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Mmmm

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:06 AM

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It still does a fair bit- nothing insane like most othey systems but its not lagg free, its still free lagg :^)

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:06 AM

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Ah yes, the trash fire rages on

stone current Dec 21, 2018, 7:06 AM

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selfo

indigo fern Dec 21, 2018, 7:06 AM

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Thank you Tupper, very cool

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:07 AM

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right on schedule

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:07 AM

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Poggers- Another chat mention another strom of msgs

low shard Dec 21, 2018, 7:07 AM

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Its warm

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:07 AM

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Ohwait

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The messages sent already why are they sending again

opaque hawk Dec 21, 2018, 7:07 AM

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audio either uses ram or cpu or both. So take that into consideration

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:07 AM

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Oh nvm

fervent glade Dec 21, 2018, 7:08 AM

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help

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:08 AM

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@opaque hawk But what about if it's inactive

atomic swallow Dec 21, 2018, 7:08 AM

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Nice... so... why are there even things like open beta... if you're going to push the patch out a few hours later. What

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:08 AM

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There is no help here

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:08 AM

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That's the issue

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If I have audio sources that only appear upon awake

timid heron Dec 21, 2018, 7:09 AM

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How to merge vrc & steam acc together ?

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:09 AM

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@atomic swallow for the idea?

opaque hawk Dec 21, 2018, 7:09 AM

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@umbral nova it depends.

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most of the stuff you do is really short

velvet quarry Dec 21, 2018, 7:09 AM

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@timid heron
https://vrchat.com/home/steamlink

fervent glade Dec 21, 2018, 7:09 AM

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help it keeps saying "verify email and birthday" and when i put it correctly in it just keeps telling me to do tht

atomic swallow Dec 21, 2018, 7:09 AM

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It defeats the point of it being a beta.

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:09 AM

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@fervent glade welcome to any VRC update

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Enjoy

fervent glade Dec 21, 2018, 7:10 AM

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...

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tf i do then

velvet quarry Dec 21, 2018, 7:10 AM

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@fervent glade The team is aware and is looking into it.

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:10 AM

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Read #announcements

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 7:10 AM

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The open beta found some bugs, but most of the testing was in the closed beta that lasted much longer

opaque hawk Dec 21, 2018, 7:10 AM

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@umbral nova if your stuff is short then unity's default audio settings would be proper

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:11 AM

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@opaque hawk We're talking about the "optimization" gauge here

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:11 AM

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"The team is aware and is looking into it" should be a slogan

fervent glade Dec 21, 2018, 7:11 AM

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e.e

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Can we maybe get a tshirt with that slogan ?

opaque hawk Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 AM

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its one of those things where nobody knows really how to optimize audio in unity so the gauge makes sense.

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Yes

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 AM

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@fervent glade sorry friend. They'll figure it out.

opaque hawk Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 AM

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You much suffer from their incompetence

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 AM

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@umbral reef Should I throw the Dosis font or the Nameplate font at you when I get home?

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Can make that into a meme

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Yea

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Oof, 100% of my avatars would be "Excellent" status if a single custom animation didn't knock you to Good

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:13 AM

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Luhmaou get rekt scrub

atomic swallow Dec 21, 2018, 7:13 AM

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Oh. Yeah, I know. That closed beta with a handfull of people. stalking1

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 7:13 AM

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@sterile drift nameplate font please

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:14 AM

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I'm in for a t-shirt

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:14 AM

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Wrong LoneEevee lmao

brisk umbra Dec 21, 2018, 7:14 AM

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Lmao

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:14 AM

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I wonder who that guy is

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Probably some dweeb

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:14 AM

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Can it have the red broken avatar model on it, too?

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:14 AM

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Pfft LoneEevee desktop

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 7:15 AM

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that thing still happens btw tupper/any dev looking

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 7:16 AM

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i have good avatar rating because im 920 polygons over 32000 PogU

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time to chop away at something for that perfect

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:17 AM

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So the avatar rating system is becoming the new 20k limit?

noble narwhal Dec 21, 2018, 7:17 AM

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I am gonna use all of the 70k

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:18 AM

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Something else for people to obsess over

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Or bypass

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 7:18 AM

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i mean i just want excellent because why not

noble narwhal Dec 21, 2018, 7:18 AM

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All of my avatars are bad so are this point I ain't care people can just hide my avatar

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 7:18 AM

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it's designed in a way so we shame eachother into optimizing rather than them giving us hard limits

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 7:18 AM

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i did that anyway

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:19 AM

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Lul

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:19 AM

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Yo if you want these jiggly animes you better be ready to lose some frames.

noble narwhal Dec 21, 2018, 7:19 AM

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Cause each public world I go everyone has my shaders off so this is no different

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 7:19 AM

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i prefer avatar system over remove and limit stuff

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:19 AM

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That's just the way of it

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 7:19 AM

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I mean the jiggle anime im making is almost excellent

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so no reason why you cant make it good

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:20 AM

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Not that jiggly then

low shard Dec 21, 2018, 7:20 AM

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Semi jiggly

noble narwhal Dec 21, 2018, 7:20 AM

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I use dynamic bones on almost all of my avatars and people don't complain

low shard Dec 21, 2018, 7:20 AM

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Just semi

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 7:20 AM

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I just dont use colliders sansundertale

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:20 AM

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I want E V E R Y T H I N G to jiggle

atomic swallow Dec 21, 2018, 7:20 AM

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I still don't get it. They can see it's flawed. Like really badly so. Why not keep the ranking back and actually tune and fix it... instead of bloody pushing it with the update...

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 7:20 AM

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@vocal shard yes it does if room with 30 people dyamic bone

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:20 AM

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EVERYTHING MUST JIGGLE

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 7:21 AM

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if you want everything to jiggle, use cloth on the entire avatar so its just a pile of mush on the floor

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:21 AM

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@atomic swallow whats fucked then?

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 7:21 AM

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ultimate jiggle

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:21 AM

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@vocal shard because of shitty optimized avatars

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 7:21 AM

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weight paint is our best friend

low shard Dec 21, 2018, 7:21 AM

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Annoying but necessary

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:22 AM

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If the entire avatar is cloth... it wouldn't be on the floor

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it'd just fall infinitely

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unless you remove gravity

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:22 AM

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Even a small amount with colliders adds up fast

noble narwhal Dec 21, 2018, 7:22 AM

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Like almost any public world I go people already have me muted so at this point just do what ever

mighty galleon Dec 21, 2018, 7:22 AM

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so wait, the update for 70k is now fully out?

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:22 AM

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Jup sean

mighty galleon Dec 21, 2018, 7:23 AM

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kk

raven silo Dec 21, 2018, 7:23 AM

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yea

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:23 AM

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Jupanooz

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:23 AM

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Oh god damn it

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The system no work very well yaes

noble narwhal Dec 21, 2018, 7:23 AM

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Well I mostly use dynamic bones for hair breasts booty sometimes for tail or skirt etc

ancient kayak Dec 21, 2018, 7:24 AM

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new update causing wayyyy too much lag

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:24 AM

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Really?

lusty hearth Dec 21, 2018, 7:24 AM

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But no-one needs boob/booty colliders 😊

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:24 AM

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new update gave me 10 free fps...

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 7:24 AM

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346 from excellent but I cant spare anymore angerycog

noble narwhal Dec 21, 2018, 7:24 AM

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I ain't care if it says poor I just dont

pliant prawn Dec 21, 2018, 7:24 AM

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Plz stop DeeJay

ancient kayak Dec 21, 2018, 7:24 AM

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i was in box lag free and server is lagging

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:24 AM

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Well- The first problem is being in the lag free box

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And not just being in the box :^)

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:24 AM

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Why are you in the box lag free... when it's probably the worst case of false advertisement?

ancient kayak Dec 21, 2018, 7:25 AM

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isit because everyone using same avatar(which is poorly optimized)?

vocal shard Dec 21, 2018, 7:25 AM

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You can still get medium with 32 dynamic bones

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 7:25 AM

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I mean I don't really care if its just good, at least it aint poor QuackThinking

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:25 AM

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@woven steppe Its just writen the wrong way aroudn
They meant to type "FREE LAGG WORLD"

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:25 AM

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OMEGALUL

atomic swallow Dec 21, 2018, 7:25 AM

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Hidden parts that do not influence anything kicking you down. The bloody stages It goes in as well. The fact it's all based for the lowest of the lowest specs of computers it seems. It feels like they're shoving optimisation problems onto the people instead of fixing it themselves. It's lazy.

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:25 AM

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Box O' Lag

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:26 AM

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Aslong as your above poor
On poor with a valid reason (bounc size for example)
You should not care imo

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Else you kinda should start caring as the numbers that low arent too bad

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 7:26 AM

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well I mean it makes sense to base it sorta close to minimum spec for vr, most people arent running 2 2080ti's with a fucking i9

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:26 AM

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@atomic swallow They fixed IK by a lot, the voip is fixed even more
The only main thing they could fix right now is the nameplates...
So im unsure why you are saying they need to fix there game

fringe glade Dec 21, 2018, 7:27 AM

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the legs are jittering in full body, fixed joint is still not fixed while being the most upvoted thing in the canny since before the 2017 update

umbral reef Dec 21, 2018, 7:27 AM

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Welp im out for a while 👋 dont shitpost too much owkay

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:27 AM

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does dynamic bones not work if you disable the colliders?

fringe glade Dec 21, 2018, 7:27 AM

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anything more ? @umbral reef

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I could keep going if you want, logout, public unitypackage in the API

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:28 AM

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I know that... I meant do they work if the colliders are disabled but still in the model?

fringe glade Dec 21, 2018, 7:28 AM

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No.

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:28 AM

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Because I know cloth will still interact with colliders that are disabled

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which is why the game rated me with 0 physics colliders

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when I actually have like 50

atomic swallow Dec 21, 2018, 7:29 AM

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Im going to ignore this ranking system anyway. fastraindowdance

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:29 AM

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that's what most people do

flint ore Dec 21, 2018, 7:30 AM

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I miss the other Birb world.

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:30 AM

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There just seem to be a select number that like the look of a green star

opaque remnant Dec 21, 2018, 7:30 AM

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it's useful for finding that person that drops the frames by 10, but that's about it

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 7:30 AM

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Excellent Good Medium Poor VeryPoor

woven steppe Dec 21, 2018, 7:30 AM

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I like the Caution sign

atomic swallow Dec 21, 2018, 7:31 AM

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Boy... last night i saw a avatar classed as good... it dropped me 15 frames. The thing is already circumvented to troll people.

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 7:32 AM

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Nothing's being circumvented, their avatar would have been laggy without the system

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 7:32 AM

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last night?

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pretty sure its only been around for a little bit now

atomic swallow Dec 21, 2018, 7:32 AM

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Beta.

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 7:32 AM

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It's been on beta since yesterday

shy nest Dec 21, 2018, 7:33 AM

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maybe your computer is just shit

safe prism Dec 21, 2018, 7:33 AM

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i mean i can have a very good avatar, do a crazy shader, and you'll lag

indigo fern Dec 21, 2018, 7:33 AM

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💩

safe prism Dec 21, 2018, 7:33 AM

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the edge cases don't outweigh the benefits

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:35 AM

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@languid beacon Are those the real textures?

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 7:36 AM

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They are the official ones from the ranking page, with whitespace cropped out, downsized to emoji

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:37 AM

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Mm

rigid crescent Dec 21, 2018, 7:37 AM

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chairs scale with bounds

umbral nova Dec 21, 2018, 7:37 AM

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What if I...

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Because remember what I can do Adeon lmao

languid beacon Dec 21, 2018, 7:37 AM

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recommend creating chairs on a cube instead of an empty, it doubles as the collider making it much easier to resize than the stupid bounds

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at the price of 12 more polys /shrug