#vrchat-general-2

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rough flax
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monkaS

vocal shard
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Called out by Tupper. oof

umbral reef
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Exposeeeddd

rough flax
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Don't worry, when I get my nep I will be putting effort into it. Animations and optimization.

umbral reef
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Can we get a VRC produced and promoted Yt channel where we expose semi known users within this community for there bad optimazation 👀

vocal shard
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💨

median basalt
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That's no longer necessary lol

opaque hawk
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How about no

umbral reef
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How about yes GWnanamiSataniaEvil

median basalt
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I have brought great shame upon myself already lol

umbral reef
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@median basalt Seen what i wrote within BM?

vocal shard
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yeah rokk

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i'm disappointed

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the mighty atlas God

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having more than 30 materials

median basalt
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Which one? @umbral reef

vocal shard
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a shame, really

median basalt
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The 39 material avatar is older I swear

umbral reef
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My new friends 👀

median basalt
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I had no idea it was that bad even

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After combining it's 6

tardy ridge
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So i have a guy who I have unfriended, blocked/etc and he can still join on me in friends only servers when im the only person in there

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How is he doing this?

north axle
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Probably a friend of other friends.

tardy ridge
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No one else is in the map, he shouldnt be able to join on me if I have him blocked

vocal shard
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modded client then

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or maybe

tardy ridge
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How do i report that

vocal shard
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he is using the website

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to join on you

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i think you can bypass some stuff and directly join on a world

tardy ridge
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How does he know im online within second of when i login

north axle
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If you suspect him of doing something bad, moderation@vrchat.com.

tardy ridge
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if I have him blocked

vocal shard
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maybe he got another account that you friended ?

north axle
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No one is safe.

tardy ridge
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I blocked all 3 of his accounts cause he was doing it on others I didnt know he had

north axle
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Oh, I know someone who got banned 40 times. They never came back to VRChat, according to my sources, but if they have multiple accounts, things like that are to be expected.

wise basin
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Anyone have a good tutorial for OvrDrop? Been having a ton of issues trying to get my chat up in vrchat while streaming.

north axle
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No need to repeat your questions in different channels.

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We saw it.

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We don't know.

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There are 50000 people in this Discord, for Christ's sake.

wise basin
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bro "we don't know " seems like a pretty generalized response, also calm down.

north axle
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It's against the #rules, is what I meant.

rigid crescent
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what's their main name statr with Pun?

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the letter

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or the last letter

cold talon
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time to bring the clapp hammer

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👏

north axle
tacit plank
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OvrDrop has great support I've heard, also a bug tracker and a Steam forum thingy as far as I remember

vocal shard
lilac swan
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They can try as much as they'd like, only staff can do actual bans.

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File a report and submit evidence.

tacit plank
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Tony these things happen to you surprisingly often, are you trolling?

dapper stump
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What the hell lmao

vocal shard
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How old are you?

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Sadly, we do need to remove you from here as you need to be 13 as the first rule says.

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please remove him

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Yeah, that's the reason why.

dapper stump
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this guy is pretty bad at trolling

vocal shard
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thanks

umbral reef
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Clapped

floral aspen
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I missed some entertainment?

vocal shard
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no

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just a kid

lilac swan
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Just a self-fulfilling prophecy. Someone asking for help because they're afraid to get banned, then admits to being 10 years old.

rigid crescent
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what're the odds of an ingame yeet/

vocal shard
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he should get banned in-game too technically

umbral reef
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Then he was right GWnanamiRankoWink
Only in a different way he was thinking

lilac swan
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If there is undistupable evidence to connect their discord account to their VRchat account, then it most likely will happen

subtle prawn
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and if there was, ban wave?

vocal shard
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Seeing as they posted VRC stuff in their channel... GWnanamiLaceShrug

lilac swan
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Then appropriate action would be taken. Not sure why it would come as in a wave.

floral aspen
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It wouldn't be a wave. The kid admitted to being 10, but there's no way to see if others are lying about their age unless they also admit to it.
it would be nice if there was a way though. Not a fan of squeakers in VRC

queen mango
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Pretty easy to track them down.. Just hear their voices..

sterile drift
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And if they're mutes?

queen mango
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Then it's impossible

zealous locust
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has anyone had an issue where you cant change your home even if you reset it or go to another world and try to set it?

raw void
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hey guys i got a question

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how do i use private avatars

civic plume
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why does unity just constantly freeze ? is it like an autosave??

vapid socket
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Hey

silver dust
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Hey

winged dirge
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Hey

vale fog
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Hey

mild topaz
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Hey

clear swift
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Hey

vocal shard
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Hey

neon flume
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Hey

vocal shard
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Hello people

vapid socket
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@vocal shard hey

inner vale
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Hi all

lilac lake
civic plume
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OH

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MY

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GOD

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21

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'2

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UNITY 2017? O.O

simple crow
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What do red avatars mean?

glad hazel
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means the avatar is broken i believe.

ocean arch
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2017 but not 2018? Reeeeee

idle cipher
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vrchat upgrade?

ocean arch
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2018 is more stunning in graphics

gritty shard
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REEEEEEEE its not 2018
built in shader graph 😦

lost hull
trim hamlet
vast tulip
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@ocean arch why would the update be to an incomplete version of Unity? This is an LTS version

ocean arch
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I'm confused on what you said

covert chasm
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Read the blog post. 😃

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Please! I worked hard on it. 😄

ocean arch
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Will do

civic plume
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NO GUYS

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read it

ocean arch
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Good to hear about an upgrade anyways though. This is already a major improvement

civic plume
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its good you didnt go to 2018

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tupper i read it well done!

night lark
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ONGONGOGMGOGMGGKOEKFOFOGKFKFKGKKEIG

golden bluff
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VERY VERY EXCITING

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Yes

inner vale
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I'm just here for VRChat. Not Unity. Lol

opaque jewel
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Clearly an early April Fools prank

opaque hawk
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oooooohhhhhh, I'm scared-cited

opaque jewel
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Seriously, glad that it's getting an upgrade

sterile drift
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I'm mega scared

ocean arch
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I just read it. Now I understand

kind folio
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oh boy it's happening

noble hemlock
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shields eyes

sterile drift
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One thing I'm somewhat okay with is that people won't say "It's single core" anymore

ocean arch
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2017 is a major leap regardless. Also the same version our university uses for our game development course. Looking forward to it guys :+1:

sterile drift
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But at the same time

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Updating all 200 of my avatars is a big no on my part. I'm just gonna update the ones I use

distant charm
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EXCITING THINGS woo

queen mango
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O my

floral aspen
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Finally upgrading but not to 2018
Only slightly disappointed but glad at the same time

astral cliff
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We gots multicore now?

queen mango
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Finally, an upgrade

civic plume
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I HOPE MULTICORE

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PLEASE I HOPE SO BAD

floral aspen
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Anything is better than 5.6

noble hemlock
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(i will not updating all my avatars, because all of them look cool n cute)

lost hull
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I already moved voice off main 😃

tidal aspen
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what are some features of unity 2017?

kind folio
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idk much about 2017 but I guess I'll check it out.

queen mango
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Hopefully we'll get improved multicore now

heady sequoia
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can we use more than 1 core now holy

sterile drift
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Is that a VRC Team member on Invisible?

queen mango
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Man, we've got new users chatting here now

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Yep, Eevee

sterile drift
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G A S P

lost hull
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is invisible

noble hemlock
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holey flipmoley paint3d fbx models can't track there

queen mango
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He's just one of many

lost hull
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<.<

civic plume
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HAHAA

lost hull
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>.>

civic plume
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DAN XD

floral aspen
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Voice off main?! Yes!!!

idle elm
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FIVE SIX!

noble hemlock
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im clapping

sterile drift
noble hemlock
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vrclike clap clap

astral cliff
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I see a VRC team dude, if we have multicore now then praise the emperor I shall bludgeon a heretic in your name 😄

hallow zenith
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VRChat’s Community is now much larger, and asking users to re-upload allof their content is simply not viable. With some very gracious assistance from Unity, we have managed to avoid this issue and move forward with VRChat. Unity provided us with a patch was released in 2017.4.15f1 LTS that allows us to use the shaders included with the AssetBundles you’re uploading to VRChat.

queen mango
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There was much rejoicing when the upgrade was announced

sterile drift
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@astral cliff L O L

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It was already multicore

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lmao

gritty shard
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I really want to use unity's built in shader graph and make some toon shaders that don't use emissions. Guess i'm stuck with the outdated Shader Forge :/

civic plume
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A common question we’re expecting is “Why not Unity 2018?” We’re primarily focused on moving to Unity LTS (Long-Term Support) versions rather than every incremental Unity version. This allows us to ensure that we’ll receive support from Unity in the long-term and that future upgrades go more smoothly. Once 2018 has an LTS version released, we can start looking into moving forward with that upgrade.

median basin
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does that announcement mean that the game will finally run well or what

civic plume
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We chose Unity 2017.4 LTS because it gets us a lot of fixes, tools, and improvements that have come along with the last year of Unity development.

tidal aspen
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@gritty shard just download unity 2018 and make the shader there

violet creek
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Kinda

civic plume
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for the people who cant read

tidal aspen
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then move it to vrchat

violet creek
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It will run better yeah

civic plume
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im so happy for this!

sterile drift
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Several people are typing

kind folio
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I'm just happy that more variety will be introduced with the 2017 compatible assets.

civic plume
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same!

noble hemlock
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i wanna stay forever, 5.6.3!

vocal shard
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naisu

lusty venture
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ayy perfect timing

violet creek
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This update is fucking huge and has been needed for a long time now

lusty venture
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i gotta redo all my avatars anyway

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bc i made them fast and shitty

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now i can go slowly

unkempt cliff
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So will this version of unity run on the gpu or what? I heard the current version doesn’t really

vocal shard
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Please do not tell me I have to reinstall a new version a unity and redo all my avatar projects for vrchat now

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i know a lot of people are pissed about having to redo their avatars but tbh this is for the best

hallow zenith
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@lusty venture dont need to

lusty venture
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well i shitty decimated them too

kind folio
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I bet this is all in preparation for the udon inclusion as well. They probably didnt want to be limited to 5.6 features with udon.

gritty shard
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@tidal aspen won't there possibly be compatibility issues using the shader graph on an older unity version?

lusty venture
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like everything shitty

noble hemlock
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my head hurts now because of hype

violet creek
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@vocal shard there is a folder you can most likely use for the new unity

frail drift
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maniacal laughing we will have control. all the buggy scripts..

hallow zenith
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VRChat’s Community is now much larger, and asking users to re-upload allof their content is simply not viable. With some very gracious assistance from Unity, we have managed to avoid this issue and move forward with VRChat. Unity provided us with a patch was released in 2017.4.15f1 LTS that allows us to use the shaders included with the AssetBundles you’re uploading to VRChat. @vocal shard

lusty venture
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im just gonna play other vr games until vrchat is done going to 2017

median basin
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tbh i just want the game to run properly when there's more than 14 users lmao

civic plume
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We chose Unity 2017.4 LTS because it gets us a lot of fixes, tools, and improvements that have come along with the last year of Unity development.

tidal aspen
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no shader graph is like shader forge where it just converts all of that into unity's shader code

lost hull
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It's true, we do all of our rendering with SwiftShader and avoid touching the GPU. /s 😉

alpine cove
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you shouldn't have to redo your avatars lol

vocal shard
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oh, nice

sterile drift
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So updating all my avatars to 2017... Will my Unity scene actually be intact when I port over or will it be entirely broken?

unkempt cliff
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Well wouldn’t using the gpu be a good thing?

lusty venture
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YO, i play VRchat with a gtx760

tidal aspen
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there shouldn't be any compatibility issues unless there are some functions I'm unaware of

lusty venture
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get on my level

civic plume
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@sterile drift yes

median basin
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gt 740

unkempt cliff
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Because I have a nice gtx1070 waiting to be used :^)

kind folio
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@sterile drift You wont have to touch your old avatars, unless you want to update them

somber rapids
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Weird flex but okay

sterile drift
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@civic plume Which one is it L O L

civic plume
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just get the new unity version and it will upgrade and thats it

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what?

gritty shard
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these people with crappy graphics cards make me sick

civic plume
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someone enable slow chat

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too much spam

median basin
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well you could give us the money

sterile drift
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@kind folio The thing is I'm gonna want to because I update so many of my avatars a lot

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Small things but still

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I use a lot of them

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All the time

lusty venture
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give us money rich baby kid

dense orchid
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I assume we will basically be on the final build of 2017? @civic plume

gritty shard
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rather buy myself 2 rtx 2080 ti than give someone else free stuff

lusty venture
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its gonna be the build that supports "long term support" from unity

unkempt cliff
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2017.4.15 it says

civic plume
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im not sure @dense orchid just read the blog post

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tupper put the chat slow down thing on D:

grand zealot
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Multicore confirmed or naw?

vocal shard
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i play vrchat on a gtx 960m

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in vr

unkempt cliff
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Man I just wanna use the gpu so it’ll actually run well

median basin
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i mean gtx960 is the min for vr isnt it

kind folio
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Can someone please explain what everyone means by the multicore stuff?

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Im dumb sry.

lusty venture
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gtx760 in vr

dense orchid
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@lusty venture Well ya obviously, but I mean like, "2018" is the current Unity build being focused on for new features/updates. I was wondering if this is the last 2017 they released before moving on to 2018

lusty venture
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40% res scale in steamvr beta thingy

alpine cove
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i play vrchat on a playstation 1 in vr

vocal shard
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minimum specs for vr are a meme

median basin
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^

lusty venture
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tru

vocal shard
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it depends on the game

lusty venture
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very tru

covert chasm
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It's a bit of a meme. People state that VRChat doesn't use any more than one core (it does), and that new Unity versions make it possible to use more than one core (only partially true).

civic plume
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tupper enable slow mode

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pls

covert chasm
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oh yeah good idea

empty bridge
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Still no news about chairs on avatar..sad

lusty venture
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i can play vrchat smoothly at 60 with the gtx760 at 40%

median basin
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can confirm my gt740 can run some vr games

civic plume
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thanks

kind folio
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thanks tups

vocal shard
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i have a couple of vrgames that i can run fine

lusty venture
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if the 2017 unity improves performace i prolly can go to 50% realShit

sterile drift
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Funny thing Tup, I've only seen like 2 people say things about it using only one core since last time I talked to you

unkempt cliff
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So will this version of unity use more of the gpu power?

noble hemlock
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clap clap

median basin
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i hope so

vocal shard
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it's just the more demanding titles that i can't play

vestal edge
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Will I still be able to upload from the Unity being used today after the upgrade? I have a world I'm working on with Animations and I don't want to have to reanimate it all

sterile drift
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Either no one asks or everyone is catching on

median basin
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probs both

civic plume
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@vestal edge No nothing bad should happen

sterile drift
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Fraggington what is this beast of a message you're typing?

sage pewter
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What version is it again? 2017.4.15f1 LTS or 2017.4.5f1 LTS? or are they the same thing?

lusty venture
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maybe hes slow

covert chasm
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Nothing is happening to Live VRChat. You can still upload stuff, update stuff, etc. However, you can upload worlds in 2017 and it won't affect Live VRChat. Avatars are a bit different, read the blog.

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@sage pewter 2017.4.15f1 LTS. Did we misspell it somewhere?

unkempt cliff
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So we can start uploading ahead with different ids?

covert chasm
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Read the blog, it tells you.

lusty venture
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i think reading the blog is the good thing todo

sage pewter
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@covert chasm Nope, I noticed a very similar version number in my Unity Hub Launcher under Official Releases

unkempt cliff
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I did read the blog. I just want confirmation from a person.

lusty venture
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then just use copy paste

civic plume
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no its the correct thing

kind folio
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@unkempt cliff Correct. Detach the id and reupload with unity 2017.

sage pewter
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Thanks

unkempt cliff
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Kay thanks

covert chasm
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I'm the person who wrote the blog. @unkempt cliff So, uh.. double confirmation?

lusty venture
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ctrl+f, copy unity version in discord, ctrl+v, search in unity

unkempt cliff
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Yes I like double confirmation. Lol

lusty venture
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looking at it twice is a double confirmation too

tidal aspen
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I would like a professional referenced citation please

civic plume
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i can confirm tupper i see the version, it is the last version for unity 2017 @covert chasm

queen mango
upper fox
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unity 2017, squeee

sterile drift
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At tupper

heady sequoia
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is this blog post even peer reviewed smh

upper fox
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I hope this means I can reopen my theater world

civic plume
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oh boi i am so excited! i just copied the block to the 70 servers i am in to spread the word

sage pewter
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Derp. Of course, I didn't see the latest 2017 LTS because I hadn't updated my Unity Hub Launcher

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I'm going to go sit in the corner

vocal shard
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Ok if we are using this version of unity

distant charm
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Fixes to audio/video sync means theater worlds should be much more reliable

kind folio
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All my assets need to be reimported PepeHands

upper fox
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yay open beta

vocal shard
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Then what about all the stuff we got. Do I need to do them all over again and install and new unity version

tidal aspen
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If you don't care about the beta just keep playing you don't need to reupload anything

kind folio
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Read the post guysss (Before asking questions)

lusty venture
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uuuuh im looking at the new feature list of 5.6, and it looks epic

civic plume
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all you should have to do is get the new unity version and detach the avatar pipeline thing

lusty venture
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well read it twice for a double check

pallid vapor
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I am so pumped for new unity!!

queen mango
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Appreciate the announcement, Tupper.

kind folio
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Oooh I wonder what kind of new particle features there will be, if any.

civic plume
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already gone to 10 different isntances in vr telling everyone xd

lusty venture
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it seems its gon have better fps, so im happy for the 50% res scale to lower it again

vocal shard
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I’m reading the thing. And I might have to redo all my avatars. Not happy

unkempt cliff
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My VRChat uses about 10-15 percent of my gpu lol

kind folio
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@civic plume Im too lazy to play vrchat while on my pc lol (you know what I mean)

sage pewter
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@kind folio how about working built in world space particles

kind folio
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Thats a feature?

vocal shard
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Yay I gotta reupload 70 avatars

lusty venture
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epic

kind folio
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@vocal shard I mean, not really lol, if you use 70 all the time then suuure but you dont NEED too.

lusty venture
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im gonna delete all of mine exept 1 i like

civic plume
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others are doing the same thing! haha

undone belfry
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When you're happy you're only a creator for 1 year in vrc and have less than 20 avatars.
And only 5 of them i like to use. xD

vocal shard
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clap clap clap great update vrchat team. I love wasting my time uploading shit I already uploaded

tidal aspen
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I literally said you DON'T need to reupload avatars unless you wanna play the beta

civic plume
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ok i am going to the presentation room to spread word now

tidal aspen
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VRChat’s Community is now much larger, and asking users to re-upload all of their content is simply not viable. With some very gracious assistance from Unity, we have managed to avoid this issue and move forward with VRChat. Unity provided us with a patch was released in 2017.4.15f1 LTS that allows us to use the shaders included with the AssetBundles you’re uploading to VRChat.
kind folio
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was just about to post that lol

unkempt cliff
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I have to reupload like 200 avatars lmao

upper fox
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the panels in my world don't work, in the beta

vital urchin
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So does this mean my tail wag won’t work anymore?

undone belfry
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Yeah, i usually don't do the beta stuff so i'm fine.

tidal aspen
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alright you guys waste your day reuploading instead of reading a post for 2 minutes lmfao

civic plume
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No, Lunaco

distant charm
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We should be lucky this isn't a complete content wipe. The fact that this upgrade is coming with this amount of compatibility is appreciated. It's annoying that I have to upload a lot of my avatars, but it could've been much worse.

vocal shard
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Couldn’t figure out a way where we don’t have to reupload everything. Nahh it k fam. Cause i have lots of fun reporting all the textures, models, shaders, dynamic bones, animations and everything

vital urchin
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Ok cause like I just learned how to do that and I’d be salty if my wag broke Xd

kind folio
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you can always do it again for more practice 😄

vocal shard
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I’m gonna be honest. ReUploading my 70 avatars isn’t a great update

sage pewter
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But you don't have to

kind folio
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... facepalm

tidal aspen
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.

vital urchin
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You don’t have to re upload all your avatars

kind folio
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read. the. post ❤

tidal aspen
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Clearly you can't read

vocal shard
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Read the blog post. That's stated as a reason why they're using 2017... So you DONT have to re upload

undone belfry
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puddle i'm not sure if trolling....

kind folio
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Hopefully he is.

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ANYWAYS while unity downloads Ill just be here.

queen mango
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Then Unity announces their newest version in 2018

vocal shard
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Oooo do I gotta reupload my worlds too. Cause that’s greattttt

tidal aspen
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technically it is, they're just still working on 2018

vocal shard
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Ok... Gotta be a troll

dense orchid
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So I gotta ask

kind folio
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They just dont have the lts version for 2018 yet

sterile drift
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Wait so we DON'T have to reupload.

kind folio
sage pewter
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@vocal shard You don't have to reupload anything, especially if you're not participating in the beta. They pulled some strings to ensure reverse compatibility

civic plume
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WE do]

sterile drift
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But if we do want to update our projects, we will have to update that project's version, safely mind you.

dense orchid
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Does terrain lightbake work in 2017 VRC? @covert chasm 👀

tidal aspen
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yeah from what I remember

sterile drift
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I'm getting mixed signals uhh

kind folio
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You dont HAVE TOO unless you want to be in the beta. Or you can just make a new avatar

thorny sparrow
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Sorry if this has been asked 100 times, what can we expect it terms of performance gains and optimization, anything?

undone belfry
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I miss visiting this chat channel, its always great....

sterile drift
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@kind folio My friend is in the Open Beta right now and he never reuploaded his avatar

tidal aspen
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The light not baking in terrain is a 5.6.3 specific bug iirc

sage pewter
#

Who is this Several People user I keep seeing typing messages?

brave drift
#

That bug is caused by shaders

sterile drift
#

He's screensharing and his avatar is perfectly fine

kind folio
#

@sterile drift if you want any of the new features then youll have too.

brave drift
#

If you switch out the shader on something like terrain the issue will go away

vital urchin
#

But when the update actually happens would we have to reupload then, I’d think not right?

dense orchid
#

The light was baking into terrain though.. in Unity.. it just didn't seem to survive the uploading process into VRChat @tidal aspen

vocal shard
#

I’m sorry but it said we had to reupload our avatars due to shading issues and blueprint issues. @sage pewter

tidal aspen
#

TL;DR uploading
5.6 avatars work in 2017
2017 avatars don't work in 5.6
if you upload a 2017 avatar it will not show in 5.6
if you upload a 2017 avatar onto a 5.6 blueprint it will not show in 5.6

civic plume
#

Dafire im gonna copy paste that often

vital urchin
#

Ok so when the update happens we don’t have to reupload unless we updates the avatar correct?

vocal shard
#

Only need to re-upload if you want to play on the beta. If you wait until 2017 goes live, than your avatars well switch over on their own

vital urchin
#

Ok that makes sense

distant charm
#

@thorny sparrow The update to 2017 itself will bring a host of network stability improvements, things related to networking should be relatively more stable. As for the actual performance, all the update will do is open doors to future improvements that the devs can work on

thorny sparrow
#

Got it, thanks

civic plume
#

thanks gama

kind folio
#

Over time things will improve (it all wont happen at once)

vital urchin
#

But what about animations with rotations it said something about it not working and I’m alittle confused on it

civic plume
#

100% Tree, overtime things will improve but slowly as dev is difficult at times

vocal shard
#

Some specific things may need to be updated, but the majority will port over

tidal aspen
#

None of what's posted will affect you if you're playing 5.6

covert chasm
#

@vital urchin In the cases listed in the blog, you just reupload your avatar/world in 2017.

distant charm
#

Yes any animations that involve rotations will be broken sadly. You'll have to reupload with the new Unity version

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What tup tup said

tidal aspen
#

all of the issues are from playing 2017 which will be fixed when you reupload that stuff, not everything needs to be reuploaded though

vital urchin
#

Ok thank you.

brisk umbra
#

I don’t see why people are panicking I see this as. Good opportunity

dense orchid
#

I'm lowkey kind of sad we don't have to reupload everything. I feel like it'd kind of give the place a sort of fresh start, specially their servers that are probably clogged up with old abandoned avatars and worlds from the player surge earlier in the year

kind folio
#

You can still have a fresh start.

civic plume
#

no we are preparing sniper

pliant heath
#

im kinda happy about it, like ive deleted like 70% of my old models cuz they took up too much space and I would never work on them again, but I still wouldnt want to loose them

kind folio
#

I havent played vrchat in months seriously, so Im going to personally look at this as a sort of fresh start.

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(if unity would hurry up and download)

ocean bramble
#

Fresh start VRChat 2 when?

tidal aspen
#

default avatars only

undone belfry
#

lol hotox. xD

pallid vapor
#

I'll have 220 something to reupload with my estimate but still so worth it XD

kind folio
#

uh oh

civic plume
#

holy shit xd

vocal shard
#

TIME TO MAKE SOME NEW AVATARS

kind folio
#

tru

vocal shard
#

15 sec slowdown wtf!?!?!

sage pewter
#

I'm excited

vocal shard
#

Turn that shit off pls lol

sage pewter
#

Maybe I'll have shadows with transparency

noble hemlock
#

ok im out for vrchat2 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

brisk umbra
#

I am excited too fraggington

kind folio
#

@vocal shard Its helps keep down the spam.

floral zodiac
#

hello evryone , just wanting to know , multicore support on the more recent version of unity there gonna update to it ?

noble hemlock
#

*everyone

floral zodiac
#

english aint my main language

undone belfry
#

tpying is hrd lunre scoot.
Especially for us non-engrish primary speakers.

floral zodiac
#

guess u can't ask a comunity something simple eh

ocean bramble
#

But seriously, I love that we get Vrchat on a new unity version catbongo

noble hemlock
#

okeh

shy pawn
#

what does that mean

vocal shard
#

Excited

undone belfry
#

I feel like i'm one of the few greek players. I've never met another yet.

shy pawn
#

what does upgrading to other unity mean for players

floral zodiac
#

better performance maybe ?

shy pawn
vocal shard
#

Better performance and support

floral zodiac
#

but if the content people make are unoptimized that probably why it run badly

civic plume
#

@shy pawn The update to 2017 itself will bring a host of network stability improvements, things related to networking should be relatively more stable. As for the actual performance, all the update will do is open doors to future improvements that the devs can work on

undone belfry
#

also drafy, yeah multicore. so at least we'll have a bit better performance.

noble hemlock
#

c-can you slowdown pictures too

civic plume
#

the game already is multi core silly

indigo fern
#

Did someone say...
VRChat 2?

civic plume
#

apparently, i think tupper said before

distant charm
#

Am I a copypasta now? oFish

vocal shard
#

🤔

floral zodiac
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@undone belfry thanks god , that the most wanted thing for the game , hope it will help older cpus

civic plume
#

yes gama :3
just continuing to spread the message for those who jsut learnt of this upgrade to vrc

kind folio
#

@indigo fern vrchat 3 technically

vocal shard
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low key curious what new avatar limits will be snuck into the new sdk
Lol

floral zodiac
#

why not calling it vrchat 2017

indigo fern
undone belfry
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jamie i was thinking that as well.

floral zodiac
#

😂

shy pawn
#

will this update mean more easy time adding extra features to specific games/worlds, so like stuff like being killed and combat can work easier

noble hemlock
#

😃 vrclike smiley approves

indigo fern
#

You right, this is VRChat 3, but now that this is out in the open, I can complain about wanting VRCh4t

ocean bramble
#

Only in Vrchat V!

shy pawn
#

i hope this upgrade lets me actually have an upgrade button on my vrchat, so i can actually link my steam and vrchat account mad

undone belfry
#

vrchat 2025 when?

halcyon kestrel
#

ooooo Unity

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why is there a 15 second timer no one constantly types that fast maybe a 5second timer

shy pawn
#

vrchat was already running on unity right, just another version?

finite kraken
#

When can I mess with the new unity?

shy pawn
#

because its an update, i'd think a pretty obvious reason to have a slow mode on it, otherwise some chats wouldnt be able to get a word out

indigo fern
#

yea, its on unity 5.6 currently

halcyon kestrel
#

hey Staff change the time on here to 5 seconds 15 is to much

ocean bramble
#

We need VRChat on CryEngine!

vocal shard
#

You can use unity 2017 on the open beta

kind folio
#

@finite kraken right now.

civic plume
#

the slowmode helps keep this channel flowing well, theres alot of messagers >.>

indigo fern
#

CryEngine tororo

vocal shard
#

why can my 2010 laptop not run this game what makes it so demanding

halcyon kestrel
#

then at least 10 seconds

tidal aspen
#

when are we gonna get vrchat (game maker studio)

indigo fern
#

VRChat: RPG Maker Adventure tororo

civic plume
#

wait

topaz lance
#

VRchat Smash Bros

tidal aspen
#

or even better vrscratch

civic plume
#

VRCHAT UPGRADES TO UNREAL ENGINE 4 :ghasp:

vocal shard
#

damn nobody is computer savvy in here

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Unreal-chat

ocean bramble
#

Battlefield VRChat

umbral oracle
#

VRChat Source

indigo fern
#

Left 4 VRChat

quartz osprey
#

CryVRC

civic plume
#

lol source xd

tidal aspen
#

why won't my 2005 IBM thinkpad run vrchat :((

undone belfry
#

runescape but vrchat
I'd be in it for the pvp.

topaz lance
#

Why won't my TI-86 run VRChat?

quartz osprey
#

no idea @tidal aspen my commodore 64 is running just fine

ocean bramble
#

But can it run Vrchat?

civic plume
#

lol

undone belfry
#

i forget the make of tablet my brother used but it ran novmember build of vrc with 5 fps in a world with other people lmfao.
at least it worked

vocal shard
#

Why can't I run it on windows me?
XD

indigo fern
#

I dunno whats wrong with you guys, it runs fine on my Motorola Razr

civic plume
#

what are you talking about i can run it on windows Youlose

topaz lance
#

When will the game get rotary phone support?

queen mango
#

When will VRChat get calculator support?

civic plume
#

when will vrchat be social again
Make VRChat Social Again

ocean bramble
#

Playing vrchat on my Casio

topaz lance
#

Are you guys hyped about the upcoming VRChat sequel "Private World Simulator"?

vocal shard
#

"mirror simulator"

indigo fern
#

Hotox
Playing VRChat at all
tanabae

civic plume
#

oh boy these memes

undone belfry
#

I can't be the only one that doesn't stand in front of mirrors 99% of the time.

ocean bramble
umbral oracle
#

Playing the IRL version of VRChat

topaz lance
#

I can stand in front of a mirror for like 5 seconds then I get bored and find something else to do

undone belfry
#

i only use 'em or my camera for fbt calibrations then move on.

vocal shard
#

i see the community is still a bunch of virgins

indigo fern
#

welcome back then

vocal shard
#

Jasysidelook
That was random...

undone belfry
#

Alcolet, you went from 0 to 100 bro. incoming flame lmao

indigo fern
#

0 to 56 real quick

vocal shard
#

Super Mario Chat

undone belfry
#

damn it n8 with the puns.

ocean bramble
#

Good n8

queen mango
#

@vocal shard We're entering a second life here. Of course we're gonna ve on that

rigid crescent
#

still not understanding the people confused by mirrorchat

vocal shard
#

Mirror = larger fov for talking with friends

rigid crescent
#

Not everyone needs to constantly run around and have particles blasted in their face while riding a flying rainbow unicorn on a gaint space ship underwater

umbral oracle
#

MirRChat

rigid crescent
#

Some people just like to....yknow. Sit and talk with friends. How is that so confusing? lol not really trying to roast, but I always think "have these people never had friends?" when someone doesn't get it

topaz lance
#

Standing in front of a mirror talking to friends is one thing. The people who sit in front of a mirror silently and are clearly not afk is what we are talking about

undone belfry
#

I just prefer a world with some good lighting, ambient bgm and just talking or moving around every so often within the world.
Never understood the sit in front of a mirror for 24 hours

tidal aspen
#

Exploring cool worlds people make with friends vrcdislike
Sitting in mirror all day in a box vrclike

queen mango
#

Speaking of cool worlds, there's that Shibuya map

indigo fern
#

oh no, not the cursed box tororo

vocal shard
#

Should I install the new Unity into the same folder as the old Unity? Thenking

indigo fern
#

wait, which box we talking about? theres like 500 of them

ocean bramble
#

Wants to privately sit and talk with friends

goes to public world
matsix

queen mango
#

On the second floor of Cafe Seiren (Starbucks in 2018), there's a mirror room.
Cafe's in the building just in front of Shibuya Station in that map

vocal shard
#

Nobody said spend all your time in front of a mirror. But like we go and run some maps for explor world's with some friends, and then after that, we might just want to sit and talk. It's usually easier too see everyone if you're all in front of a mirror when winding down after hours of activity

undone belfry
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@vocal shard Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying you guys all sit there all day long.
i have a few friends that do that though, won't even move for 8 straight hours from the same spot in front of a mirror.

vocal shard
#

I don't understand that. The mirror itself is boring... It's your friends that make things fun. Lol

indigo fern
#

yea, ive seen people who have some group where a requirement is to sit infront of the mirror for extended periods of time

topaz lance
#

I have two friends who sit in front of a mirror hugging each other for up to 4 hours at a time

#

it's a little creepy

rigid crescent
#

oh those are annoying, i've yeeted them all from my lists though

#

they add nothing to my experience

indigo fern
#

yea, im 100% down for actually communicating while in front of a mirror for hours, but there are definitely people who just sit there and say/do nothing

topaz lance
#

^

covert chasm
#

2017 🤔

vocal shard
#

yo

undone belfry
#

idk maybe i'm the weird one, i'm fine with looking into a mirror rarely like i do irl.
This is coming from someone who spends 4-14 hours of her day each day tweaking and working on a model.
Yet i won't sit there and admire myself in a mirror forever when i can just go do stuff while in the body i am proud of creating.

ocean bramble
indigo fern
#

oh snap 2017

wintry wave
#

damn i thought it would be drinking friday

#

one day ill drink with you

rigid crescent
#

"when i can just go do stuff while in the body i am proud of creating." like what tho lol

indigo fern
#

thanks whoever added the emote, may or may not be Tupper

ocean bramble
#

Rip 56, long live 2017

vocal shard
covert chasm
#

I both made and added that emote

rigid crescent
#

weird flex but ok

wintry wave
#

one day

undone belfry
#

mic, explore worlds, play some of the not so broken game worlds actually go chat with people not lurking at mirrors 8+hours

covert chasm
#

questionable showcase, but all correct

queen mango
#

👀
New emote?

rigid crescent
#

I mean i chat with people...in front of a mirror lol most of these worlds really aren't that impressive, not in a bad way, it's just like

kind folio
#

started at 56 , now we here 2017

civic plume
vocal shard
#

yo anyone elses avatar loading red

rigid crescent
#

like i'll play murder once in a while, sure

tall ingot
#

Is there still going to be a 20k poly limit?

dense orchid
#

2017 \o/

civic plume
#

yes @tall ingot

queen mango
#

Yes

dense orchid
#

Friendship ended with 56
Now 2017 is bestfriend!

tall ingot
#

Disappoint

rigid crescent
#

but I prefer sitting and talking no matter where it is. it's a social game, I'm socializing and mirrors add the larger FOV and more immersion while doing so, so of course it's what I'll be looking at while doing the thing i like

undone belfry
#

Well yeah there are days where you want to just sit and relax too, i get that.

queen mango
#

Yea..

#

Like after a stressful day, you wanna relax in a flower field with a mirror there

indigo fern
#

a certain flower field with a lot of bloom vrpill

queen mango
#

Inside a cave with a shack, and soothing music courtesy of Emi Evans

rigid crescent
#

oof

ocean bramble
vocal shard
#

ban me

rigid crescent
#

i usually prefer friend's worlds

raven silo
#

bet no one want to join unity 2017 vrchat without mirrors lol

undone belfry
#

nier and Nier:auto best music tracks, fight me otherwise.
Seeing someone add that area to vrc made me cry when the music came on.

ocean bramble
#

@undone belfry Agreed

undone belfry
#

I just want seafront from Nier: gestalt now...with the music.

queen mango
#

And the entire Amusement Park with its signature theme

undone belfry
#

ooooh yesss. the fireworks in vr would look insane.

queen mango
#

Pls make Square Enix convince Tokyo Disneyland to make that one

#

Or Pascal's Village with the music

weary cypress
#

just release an update where they remove mirrors

#

because 80% of the people in great pug sits at the mirror .

raven silo
#

@weary cypress just go to 2017 unity vrchat most mirror broking lol

indigo fern
#

^

weary cypress
#

is that english

gloomy valve
#

??

indigo fern
#

the update to 2017 will break all the old mirrors, its in the update blog

gloomy valve
#

oh well :3

weary cypress
#

but mirrors will be back after awhile anyway

topaz lance
#

What would actually happen if VRChat removed mirrors? Mass hysteria end of the world shit?

gloomy valve
#

we can build new ones?

weary cypress
#

vrchat will be dead cause everyone is all about mirrors

raven silo
#

world be empty

gloomy valve
#

now to play devils advocate it makes sense to have htem if you make avatars

hexed bridge
#

Is the new patchlog saying that video sync will be same for everyone after the patch?

#

Can anyone tell me about the videosync patch?

gloomy valve
#

i dont have much info

vocal shard
#

guys i have a problem i was known user and my steam account disconnected me from my vrchat account and for some reason i'm a simple user now

brave whale
#

i found a server to a random place that was in the Pug server's basement idk what to do xD

rigid crescent
#

without mirrors people would just be annoyed for a time because sitting with groups to talk would be less immersive and it would be harder to test things

#

that and harder because of the fov being lowered

sleek bone
#

It's time to reupload my avatars

small wing
civic plume
#

i bet all avatar worlds will get broken if they need to re upload? but im not sure

small wing
#

lookie here

#

particles are gonna be so freaking cool

civic plume
#

OH BOI

#

MORE CRASHERS BlobbleWobble

small wing
#

Uhhhh, safety settings? Hello?

civic plume
#

doesn't matter

small wing
#

Uhhhh, block button?

rigid crescent
#

lol those existing arent an excuse to have annoying particles, that's like saying "uhh, safety settings? hello?" as an argument for particle crashers

undone belfry
#

well if the particle limter thing still works, i'm fine with people doing whatever.

sage pewter
#

@rigid crescent That's not like saying that, that is saying that

civic plume
#

are you brain dead XD

#

crashign and shit will always exist as long as the particle systems are actually aloud in vchat lol

sage pewter
#

Hey loud is not allowed

true sky
#

noted: no nice looking particles on avatars

#

plus particle limiter disables playerlocal

undone belfry
#

they don't even need particles to do it tbh.
A single shader is enough, so is anyone making a mesh override that renders so much to crash you.

You'd have to restrict the game almost entirely to attempt to prevent it and even then...yeah.

true sky
#

which causes people to crash

civic plume
#

did you not just read what i said? did i fuck up?

If particle systems are enabled in vrchat then regardless of sdk restrictions people will still make particle crashers.

true sky
#

all you can do is report them

#

they arent going to disable a feature over 1 bad egg

undone belfry
#

people will always find a way

civic plume
#

i do, reported someone last night. a girl thinking she cool owning a crasher and just crashes "cancer" people, sorry lol you can use the vote to kick thats why its there

vocal shard
#

This is why we all need to play Roblox

civic plume
#

lol

true sky
#

plus most particle crashes dont work if limiter is really reduced. the crash that may happen is if they are using a bad shader

small wing
#

"which can be blocked by safety settings"

true sky
#

^

undone belfry
#

I've yet to meet a crasher i think, all i run into are people that make loud bass-meme avatars with obnoxious screenshakes that throw the screen around and flash colours fairly quickly making me dizzy and almost fall over lol.

#

i just block them or their avatars.

true sky
#

i dont mind the bass ones since avatar and sound effects are low

small wing
#

God forbid someone figures out how to stack audio sources though.

vocal shard
#

Crashers crash for attention and superiority. Have we tried just ignoring them? Or is it our need to be superior that pushes us to retaliate?

umbral oracle
#

the sound fx ones are bad because some worlds have quiet music so I bump it up to max, and then some avatars still somehow are allowed to use sound fx

undone belfry
#

joined a public pug a few weeks back to a shader screen shake that covered half the pug and the music had to be global, there was no escape and that nails you a perma-block from me.

civic plume
#

@small wing already found a guy that did that

small wing
#

I assume vrchat has a hard clip set to the volume sliders themselves or a limiter of some kind.

#

Oh, then they dont. oof.

civic plume
#

one guy had a blackhole shader that slowly expanded whilst being locked to the world and eventually crashing everyone. it was in mic night and pug once

vocal shard
#

I had a great time in vrchat, but j guess that's an outdated topic

true sky
undone belfry
#

Yeah, exactly, lego.

true sky
#

and pray they get the 1 month vrpill

small wing
#

Or just flat out tell everyone in the room who survived who did it so they mass report

compact river
#

in the past i used none standard shaders on my outfit to just mess with people ( turned into green army man) then i looked at how many people clicked show avatar from the api and stopped doing that

civic plume
#

no i pray for 1 year

true sky
#

cant wait till next update

vocal shard
#

This years theme is talking about crashers non stop, giving them the attention they seek, and either fighting back or joining them.

Screw having fun in vrchat. This is why we are all here

#BattleOfTheEdge #2018 #blessed

civic plume
#

so your a crasher?

true sky
#

there is 1 month for being bad, 4 months for ban evading, and 4 years bans for multiple moderations on the account unless there are others i dont know about

small wing
#

I think you can just straight up get permabanned once tbh. It depends mainly on how bad you screw up.

true sky
#

yeo

undone belfry
#

@vocal shard Yet i've never met one and just go about enjoying my time in vrc. I only run into obnoxious meme-avatars with max music volume radius.

#

Which is easy to deal with vrcblocked

umbral oracle
#

the funny thing about crashers is that vrchat crashes often enough by itself (memory leaks, etc) that they would have to make it clear it was a deliberate crash or you will assume it's a bug/glitch (so if you block/mute/pay no attention to them it makes their crashing pointless).

compact river
#

]mostly it just lags when it leaks to that point

hasty wedge
#

crashes when alone REEE vrchat is full of crashers

true sky
#

i dont mind meme avatars until its a really bad shader that affects you in vr and desktop

vital rune
#

lmao

#

VRChat's """optimization""" is worse than Mafia 3's optimization

true sky
#

but yes, blocking or hiding their avatars will lead them to the nuisance role, making others not experience what you have seen

undone belfry
#

@hasty wedge b-but they joined you with modded client just to crash you, so you weren't really alone.
x-files theme starts playing.

hasty wedge
#

😱 !!!!

vocal shard
#

@undone belfry I've been around long enough to see pewdiepie popularize it marginally. Then the knuckles. Then the death of the game with the popularity of private worlds and the death of the knuckles.

#

I can officially say the latest trend is crasher fear mongering

compact river
#

back in my day the devs told people to start using private worlds

undone belfry
#

@vocal shard Were you around for "its free realestate", rainbow cult, nep takeover?

vocal shard
#

If you're not afraid of, constantly taking about, or are a crasher, you won't fit in

true sky
#

i still use the knuckles model as its sorta cute to look at as a 3d model BlueKnuckles

compact river
#

public worlds are just fine tbh

true sky
#

i would pet myself if steamvr didnt always crash for me

vital rune
#

I never went to public worlds all that much anymore considering the state of them

vocal shard
#

Crashers = end of the world

Model rippers = meh

hasty wedge
#

o no theyre gonna crash me and steal my CUSTOM AVATAR that took me 5 hours vrc devs when are u gonna fix till then ima stay in private xdddddd

undone belfry
#

Cause i've been here since early October-2017 and know how the whole fear thing trends.

compact river
#

joined around or after the celb thing

vocal shard
#

Oh boy. The old meme is back

#

The contest of who's the most veteran here

true sky
#

then people make up BS rumors to scare others and most now come from groups of crashers or people who think scaring people is funny

compact river
#

the devs pushed priv worlds about that time

undone belfry
#

"contest" lmao. I don't use it like that, it was a simple statement. There still actives far as i recall that played in feb 2017.

vocal shard
#

I've been in vrchat since the start of it being conceptualized on paper for a project

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Gg I win

compact river
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dead mouse was it played and vrchat started getting more popular

vocal shard
#

Please.. I just started 5 minutes ago. Get on my level.
XD

true sky
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unless i see something in #announcements about a rumor that is debunked true, peoples rumors are debunked as BS as always

compact river
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but it was not a push because of crashers i dont thing

vocal shard
#

I'm gonna make my own game

compact river
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but anyway im gunna keep going to public

vocal shard
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You'll have to try and have as much of a chitchat with other players as you can before a "griefer" shoots you and crashes the game

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I'll call it VRConversation

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$0.99

true sky
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definately doesnt come from a trusted user. i put all my trust in them ablobangel

compact river
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ill just stick with normal vrchat and be in public all day with no crashes tyvm

undone belfry
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don't make it crash the game, just make it invert the entire area and controls as you fight your way back to that awkward conversation.

vocal shard
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This is why I like ForHonor

undone belfry
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You mean peacekeeper spamming lights? :^)

vocal shard
#

As long as For Honor exists, VRChat is a good game

undone belfry
#

I think Fallout 76 is the worst game ever released atm apparently to everyone.
So many people hating on it its unreal.

vocal shard
#

Know what game I hate the most?

compact river
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76 is a dirty number now

undone belfry
#

It always was ever since soldier 76.

vocal shard
#

I cant get past level one. I even tried the bonus "I'm feeling lucky" level

sterile drift
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Inb4 everyone says "Why can't I upload my avatars anymore?!"

rigid crescent
#

lol

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get ready with the copypasta

sterile drift
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Jamie I beat you to this nickname lol

vocal shard
#

looks at eevee's send tag....
"Well... This is awkward"

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I believe I had it for the last hour.. but I can change
Lol

sterile drift
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I mean

compact river
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🤔 who is who

sterile drift
#

We can both have it. (Forgot safe mode was a thing)

vocal shard
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There ^^

indigo fern
#

when you go to a party and your friend is wearing the same outfit

vocal shard
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Lol

queen mango
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Hmm...

compact river
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hmmm

vocal shard
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Hmmmmm
~Banned for spam~

compact river
#

is it just me or is slow mode getting even more ....... slow

vocal shard
#

🤔

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They raised it to 15 seconds.. compared to 10 last time

compact river
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and b4 1 min timers

undone belfry
#

1 min timer? oof. I doubt it'll get that bad.

neon flume
#

I'm waiting for 2 minutes (the max afaik)

compact river
#

now thats just spooky

vocal shard
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We can't just sit around waiting to get a 2 minute timer!.. We have to make it happen!

undone belfry
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15 seconds feels long enough tbh.

empty wharf
finite kraken
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how do i beta test the new unity?

vocal shard
#

Chat kinda died quicker than I expected after an announcement like that... O.o

queen mango
#

They wait anxiously, Jam

vocal shard
dense orchid
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Speakin of silly rumors, just this very day, hours before the update announcement, someone made a comment about a "lost the source code" rumor on the canny post about updating the unity version v:

undone belfry
#

I love when silly rumors are spread.

finite kraken
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so to making it clear i download unity hub then i click the download in the hub exe and then 2017.4.15f1 LTS

gilded haven
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so out of question is there any berserk fans out here cuz i wanna know a fitting theme to play cuz im making a guts model transform into berserk mode

sage pewter
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I bet I'll end up sitting in the corner again, but how do I opt into the beta?

gilded haven
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or should i go for like 45 seconds of ash crow and move to blood and guts

dense orchid
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@sage pewter Same way ya opt into any beta build on a game in steam. But incase ya don't know, in steam, right click on it in your library and go to properties, there will be a beta tab in there

sage pewter
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Derp, thanks

old flame
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you know what would be cool?

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A 2d model that when it rotates, it changes image

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something like in doom.

gilded haven
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i mean i belive thats just a shader

sage pewter
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I've seen it a million times

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@sterile drift has one he uses for a Game Boy overworld sprite pokemon trainer

opaque hawk
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Will all avatars have to be reuploaded with the new version of unity?

vocal shard
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Not when it goes live. Only if you want to try the beta now

opaque hawk
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ok cool

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I'm liking the new name meme

vocal shard
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In the blog post, they mentioned how that's one reason they went with unity 2017 rather than 2018. If they used 2018, everyone would need to re-upload all their content, and they didn't want that

vast tulip
#

unity 2017.4 isnt as old as someone might think

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the version we are on was released tihs month

indigo fern
#

If you used crunch compression you'd have to re-up ;-;

raven silo
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@vocal shard 2017 better then then nothing lol

little rune
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Why do I have a feeling something major will break 🤔

vocal shard
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hmm? i wasn't complaining. i think it's great

opaque hawk
#

I’m hoping light baking runs faster and better in the new version.

vocal shard
#

i'm having an issue where

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if i play the game in vr, i instantly get disconnected (connection timed out)
but the game works just fine on desktop mode

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help

true sky
#

connection timed out sounds like an ISP problem as its high latency from you to vrchat servers

vocal shard
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apparently my isp hates vr then

clever nimbus
#

Why is slow mode enabled wew

kind folio
#

obvious reasons

raven silo
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@clever nimbus because 2017 unity news pop up lol

gloomy valve
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so im kinnda dumb when it comes to the inner workings of unity. why is this upgrade big news?

raven silo
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@gloomy valve spouse to bring better performance and more feature

rigid crescent
#

best part? all these worlds need to be reuploaded

gloomy valve
#

same goes for avatars too i suppose?

raven silo
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and learn how to use 2017 unity feature

rigid crescent
#

No, avatars should be mostly fine

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Unity 2017 is basically the same but with more options from the little I've seen. the average creator should have no issues

raven silo
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some avatar have reupload

rigid crescent
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yeah a few will need to be, like crunch compressed, but on the whole I think it should be fine

raven silo
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animation rolation and some shader might change all black or white

rigid crescent
#

but worlds needing to be reuploaded is pretty much genius 10/10 big brain play

gloomy valve
#

would this increase how many polys our avatars can have? or are we still stuck with the standard 20k limit?

raven silo
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still at 20k

rigid crescent
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Maybe in the future, no one really knows. as of now it's 20k limit that everyone totally follows

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notice poly count isnt mentioned at all for world declining despite it showing up in the scan

raven silo
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if whip vrchat now of day we have alot mad people lol

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5.3 to 5.6 was small group people lol

meager solstice
#

I mean with the unity 2017 upgrade I can see them updating the standards as they go, such as poly count and such

rigid crescent
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for now i think the standards are good where they are

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besides polycount, but again, they don't decline avatars over the limit

raven silo
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people need learn reduce there materials

gloomy valve
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but 3d modeling is harrrrd

kind folio
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cause they know where the actual lag comes from.

raven silo
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dont be lazy and learn lol

rigid crescent
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i mean if you're making a true custom avatar

undone belfry
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Ever since i started my material limit is 5 for max and if i have to push it, i go to under 10.
1 is my goal for materials and i prefer manually atlasing.

rigid crescent
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but if youre just importing an avatar for VRChat it's braindead easy and not real 3d modeling

kind folio
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*looking at all those people uploading with 50+ materials 50+ dyn bones and 30+ meshes

gloomy valve
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im trying. for some reason 3d software takes longer for material to sink in for me.

meager solstice
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Mine has been 1-10

rigid crescent
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my avatars i use in public are always 10 or less and 40 or less transforms

raven silo
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@gloomy valve there tools reduce it like cat plugin

umbral reef
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ay shit- thats a neato teaser within announcemen

kind folio
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? @umbral reef

undone belfry
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when people are like; "i'm 40 materials and have complex shaders"
me: AAAA

gloomy valve
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i have been wanting to make my own avatar based on the one you see on my discord icon

umbral reef
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game version upgrade

rigid crescent
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oh, that is a bit harder then if you're doing your own from scratch

kind folio
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It's not a teaser the open beta is out rn. @umbral reef

umbral reef
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Right now? Lmao the post says soon

meager solstice
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No

gloomy valve
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thats waht im talking about. its not the basics, its learning allt he macros for maya or blender

meager solstice
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Beta is now public release later

kind folio
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Its coming public soon but it's in open beta right now for any user

raven silo
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6 month learn blender make it easier

meager solstice
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But it will probably be in open beta for a while considering this is a bigger update

kind folio
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true

gloomy valve
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@raven silo so it took you 6 months to learn it? im sorry im having trouble reading your statement

raven silo
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@gloomy valve yea took me around 6 month my avatar in my pic what made for avatar

undone belfry
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It took me about the same to learn a lot of blender's uses.

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i still learn stuff everyday that makes rigging easier for myself

gloomy valve
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saddly rn im busy wiht a comic project so i dont really have the time to learn.

meager solstice
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But u can probably learn a lot faster considering there is a lot more videos and tutorials than there were back than @gloomy valve

raven silo
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you can allway get some one to make one on vrctrades @gloomy valve

gloomy valve
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this is also true. but at the money commissions are not in my budget

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for now edits and imports are a fun way to get my feet wet.

rigid crescent
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i learned all i did mostly on my own through tutorials. every time i have a problem, i just google it

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9/10 times i find an answer

raven silo
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just get bear head with mmd hoodie add string on top of it head

undone belfry
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yeah, ihad to use google before all the guides started showing up for stuff i was learning

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My favorite video though for when i was learning textures is a guy that showed me how to make really good detailed spec maps. 👌

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its not a vrc vid though

gloomy valve
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See i wanna do textures. I just hate the Unwraping Process.

undone belfry
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yeah, unwrapping can be. Quite a pain at first.

gloomy valve
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any advice on how to ease the burden?

undone belfry
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that took me a week off and on to even start learning cause i was so dumb lmao.

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I'm trying to remember the video i used for it in blender.

gloomy valve
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i'll check this out. saddly i gotta turn in for the night in a few minuets lol

undone belfry
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no worries, i should prob sleep myself.

vocal shard
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Wont i have to do everything once again in new unity version?
Or ill be able to just make unity package of things and import them to new project in new version?

umbral reef
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ya read the post they made...?

vocal shard
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Not yet, i just woke up lol

umbral reef
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do that first ;p

gloomy valve
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@undone belfry oh Heck, this video makes so much more sense...then again i had a Terrible Professor when i was learning Maya.

undone belfry
#

Blender guru has been my go-to for learning so many things lately if i get stumped learning it myself.

gloomy valve
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i wish i had this guy as a professor back when i was in school lol

kindred nacelle
#

I want to dance in VR but the sticker shock for that is un-fucking-real

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especially for a gadget that does literally nothing else

grave carbon
#

I cant see my mouae in world menu. Any solution?

light wedge
#

hi

umbral reef
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@grave carbon Tried restarting stuff yet?

grave carbon
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I changed my avatar.. Seems to be working so far

umbral reef
#

This slowmode triggers me hard mainly because its 15 seconds instead of the previous 10

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Or well- Here its 5 seconds now but still

vocal shard
#

why do we have slow mode enabled now ? the fuck happened

umbral reef
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Announcement with an @ every one mention

vocal shard
#

that really seems necessary with all the current spam in all the channels 🙄

umbral reef
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They did it last time, did it this time and will do it next time

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Well- EU is still waking up to the announcement but at the same time- People dont want up at all around the same time

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So it will be a trickle of users asking stuff instead of a flood

rigid crescent
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when they matter doesn't wake up, they won't check announcements past the title anyway lol

vocal shard
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all the info is in the docmentation anyway
dunno what they have to ask

umbral reef
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Implying people read things

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nice joke

rigid crescent
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they'll check the title then come here and ask

vocal shard
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they will read since the only answer they will get is to check the official documentation for more info

rigid crescent
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Nope

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Unless you are in an alternate reality discord

ruby burrow
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How do am custom unity?

rigid crescent
#

someone here will always answer it trying to be nice when all it does is promote laziness

umbral reef
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Fairly sure last time i checked this community was not filled with tech smart people but instead the most average (dumb) humans there can be

near saffron
#

Good edit ^

rigid crescent
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dumb is an understatement. you've gotta be braindead to see an announcement and come in and not read it

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then ask about it when all the details are there

vocal shard
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only thing i wanna know about that unity 2017 is how it affect the average player
the people that only know how to use avatars from avatar world or upload a very simple MMD model without any modification to it

rigid crescent
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basically, it wont

umbral reef
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Average dude has to pray the avatar world they use gets updated

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and there favorite world gets updated

vocal shard
#

so the average player won't really gives a shit then

umbral reef
#

Not really directly

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they will have to bitch there fps still drops evne though we upgraded versions GWnanamiMeguSmug

vocal shard
#

nah man, since it's unity 2017 it will be multicore, it's obvious

umbral reef
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that means we can have 1K dynamic bones on all avatars unity_chan_dab

queen mango
#

No

ruby burrow
#

I was about to say. Won't the most obvious benefit be potential performance improvements?

queen mango
#

Isn't that still taxing on CPU, Lac?

rigid crescent
#

does 2017 split your mesh?

vocal shard
#

cutstom render texture apparently
so no need for that weird camera workaround for GPU particles

umbral reef
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Dynamic bones and cloth are a one core script only

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Its why they are so bad

vocal shard
#

also i wanna know if there is something new with the IK system with this new unity version

umbral reef
#

Prob not yet-

rigid crescent
#

nothing mentioned

umbral reef
#

Might be redone from the ground up, same version or a slightly more stable current version

ruby burrow
#

For creators, there's also nice little details all over, like improved features for mesh based particles, so to get an arrow to point in it's direction of travel, you won't be forced to jury rig it via a special shader.

umbral reef
#

Its an big update for creators

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Also- Now this project is finished i got non meme hoped for udon GWnanamiIllyaThink

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Shit man- Soon people can only complain* about performance but even that can be shut down

queen mango
#

So I can eat it

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Heh

rigid crescent
#

im still on that "no more subcom" high tbh

#

the new unity is jsut icing on the cake that was my good day

ruby burrow
#

If I understand correctly, one thing that might be broken, is legacy animations on avatars uploaded before that previous cut-off point.

vocal shard
#

aw fuck man
i use some animations with a lot of rotations
i'l have to redo all of them

umbral reef
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There is a reaosn they killed them off squishy

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@vocal shard From how i see it all you need to do is reupload them

ruby burrow
#

Since I believe I've heard that up to date versions of unity removed support for legacy anims entirely?

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I know why they killed them off.

umbral reef
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Jup- Its the reason they gave in the past

ruby burrow
#

I'm saying that all the older uploads that were allowed to keep them, might also have them removed now, since the game will no longer support it outright.

umbral reef
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Ow yea- They wont work

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But eh- So what

rigid crescent
#

that's not too bad

vocal shard
#

it was kinda obvious tho
legacy means that it's no longer supported and is just there "just in case", not for continued usage

#

if you see something with "legacy" in it, you should probably rethink your choices

umbral reef
#

It was added into that version of unity so devs could upgrade theree projects without having to redo months of work

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And they made it clear they would vanish in later versions so that peeps would have to jump over

ruby burrow
#

However actually, since the animation component that used to hold legacy animations will no longer have the option to be marked as legacy, does that possibly mean the component could be re-whitelisted?

vocal shard
#

exactly, it was not there to be constantly used
especially not for random tail movement.

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i don't think so squishy, there was an exploit in legacy animation files

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you could modify the code of the animation file to take control of objects in any world you went tho

ruby burrow
#

But the exploit was with the legacy mode right? Not the animation component?

vocal shard
#

one simple example is that you could go into the pug and remove the floor

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the animation component is still white listed

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just not usable 🤷

ruby burrow
#

Unless that component itself is also obsolete or something, I'm thinking that if it can't be marked as legacy, then there's maybe no issue with it?

#

Although, I've no idea what it's supposed to do without legacy mode on...

#

Ah.

rigid crescent
#

all these new shaders we can use will be fun

vocal shard
#

aww fuck
all those useful tool will be useless now

ruby burrow
#

?

vocal shard
#

except if you can port them version from version

rigid crescent
#

honestly there'e not much difference, probably an eays prot

vocal shard
#

also, every single world will need to be re-uploaded

rigid crescent
#

yep

#

that's good, very good. best move ever made 10/10

umbral reef
#

Big odds its still supported

#

most devs throw working from X to X in there read me- this one didnt sadly

ruby burrow
#

Ouch.

umbral reef
#

All avatar worlds will be denied now for being badly optimized nanoadeLEWD

vocal shard
#

Lol

ruby burrow
#

Ah dang, that means I'll lose my old crying Unity-chan from that world that got set to private.

vocal shard
#

in 6 months, the general FPS will rise

#

A new age is among us

crimson terrace
#

seems like people think we don't follow rule leyShrug

umbral reef
#

For avatar worlds? My dude

rigid crescent
#

i LOVE it

vocal shard
#

look at the google doc form
every single world got denied

umbral reef
rigid crescent
#

yeah, imagine al lthe denied worlds

#

forced optimization bby

floral minnow
#

mfw people have irrational hate for us and think we're going to stop making avatars just because VRchat is an unoptimized platform that can't handle simple dynamic armature transforms

rigid crescent
#

here we go

umbral reef
#

Mouse- Your retarded af for saying that

rigid crescent
#

you make unoptimized avatars. period. you knowingly do so, knownig your platform has issues

floral minnow
#

Enjoy the ban. ❤

umbral reef
#

Its you not understanding how the engine works and how scripts work

vocal shard
#

stop lagging people and don't blame dyn bone for your lack of proper optimization

umbral reef
#

Not the game-

vocal shard
#

also, from classified world
World contains 6 avatars with greater than 50 DynBone affected transforms (highest count on single avatar is 206). World contains 8 avatars with greater than 2 DynBone Colliders (highest count on single avatar is 14). World contains 11 avatars with greater than 10 materials (highest count on single avatar is 53). World contains 8 avatars with greater than 2 Skinned Meshes (highest count on single avatar is 5). Please consult https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-optimizing-tips for tips on optimizing your avatars.

rigid crescent
#

a ban from your world?

vocal shard
#

get rekt

umbral reef
#

100 active bones are the same as a Full body IK tracking and the voip system...

#

Your claiming its the games faults if insane amounts of users make 100 dynamic bone SCRIPT avatars, not active bones?

#

Please 👏

rigid crescent
#

it's ok, they're fixing all their avatars so they're within parameters

queen mango
#

Wait up.. Wherr is this getting to?

rigid crescent
#

so that's good, shows initiative to change

ruby burrow
#

53 materials. Fack. That goes beyond disregard for optimisation. That's just plain masochism. Who could stand to try and work with such a mess? It'd be impossibly tedious to change anything.

umbral reef
#

Because they are forced to lmao

vocal shard
#

slow mode is still on...
O.o

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Avatars mini sarah, uwuǃǃǃǃǃǃ, sarah 2.5x, up sarah, Timora, echoooo, uaaaaaaa, ?????all contain more than 100 DynBone transforms. 11 avatars contain more than 50 DynBone transforms. 12 avatars in the world contain 2 or more DynBone colliders. 16 avatars contain 20 or more materials. 8 avatars contain more than 2 Skinned Meshes. Please limit the usage of Dynamic Bones to the recommended limit of 30, limit the use of DynBone colliders to 1 maximum (ideally zero), atlas textures to reduce material count, and merge your meshes.

rigid crescent
#

holy...

vocal shard
#

this one pisses me off tho:
This is the VEXPO event hall, so it is being approved. However, there are 96 avatars present, of which 15 avatars have over 100 DynBones, 60 avatars with 3 or more Skinned Meshes, and 37 avatars with 11 or more materials. Avatar "WooNanKki-Chan" by user "Gwisin" is particularly bad: it has 239 DynBone scripts affecting 393 DynBone transforms with 59 DynBone colliders. This is FAR BEYOND any kind of limit that we would ever recommend. Please encourage your creators to optimize their avatars by limiting use of DynBone, merge their meshes, and atlas textures to reduce material count.

rigid crescent
#

yeah the vexpo one kinda gets me...

queen mango
#

Even I am surprised

#

That one avatar has 23,187 damn overall dynbones

umbral reef
#

I find it cute how our friend doesnt even want to argue agaisnt this stuff and is prob reporting me to staff right now 👏

#

Ow my im scared to get banned from this discord- Would totally ruin my life

vocal shard
#

it's little mouse

#

don't pay attention

umbral reef
#

Im memeing my dude

queen mango
#

A Jerry. Nothing to worry about

umbral reef
#

Its sarcasm

vocal shard
#

Gonna call advert to ban you 0.0