There is no one who can make the change
#vrchat-general-2
fallen thunder
empty wharf
Has it been for a game like this, @umbral reef ?
umbral reef
Its not about the users-
It is all about vetting them right, moderating the mods stricktly and not giving them too much power at all from the get go
ruby burrow
I've got someone in my friend list right now, named, "A McDonalds Employee" or some such nonsense. I have no idea who it used to be.
empty wharf
This game is built on its users.
umbral reef
@empty wharf It was a music website where live music could be played
So not ingame but on a website
empty wharf
Creators, cancerous or fair.
umbral reef
Users had full range to fuck with 600+ users at the same time
rigid crescent
Not everyone thinks like that is the problem.
woven stone
just fuck the cancerous creators over
gg win win
because the nice creators will get encouraged 🤷
velvet quarry
@ruby burrow If you check on the vrchat.com website and search that user, you will see their original username below their current name.
rigid crescent
Not everyone wants an unbiased/low bias group, or even cares. If friends want friends as mods ,they'll be lenient with them
Nepotism's the word right?
umbral reef
I know that- Just ask Fpaul or advert
rigid crescent
It runs rampant in social things like this, it's already so.
woven stone
@granite coral cuz they dont fix the security holes
umbral reef
Im friends with both- But if i break the rules il still get yelled at
Thats the payoff you make
ruby burrow
I tried that Afro. I didn't recognise their original name either. ^ ^;
I must have met them during one of their intermediate names.
umbral reef
And fpaul has said if he wont warn us he will get someone else to do it
What is a totally valid thing imo
umbral nova
@velvet quarry Funny thing is, it can be the other way around as well. I can search the old username of a player and their current name will pop up.
woven stone
@granite coral couldn't care less if it cant be abused after its gone
umbral nova
In-game even
rigid crescent
I don't really think that's a comparable thing when it comes to moderation ingame vs discord
umbral reef
@granite coral "So, we got a broken heater in this house, what can we do" "Remove the house" 👌
@rigid crescent And how then?
Its still moderating
woven stone
@granite coral but I don't, security is more important
umbral reef
You think tupper and shit dont have friends ingame?
rigid crescent
I never said that, I know they do
umbral nova
They definitely do
umbral reef
@granite coral Remove the players
umbral nova
Tupper talks about Star Trek a lot as well
umbral reef
fight the problem at its core
woven stone
I wouldn't even care if there is only dev produced avatars everyone can use and noone is able to create but they have their own creation team
umbral reef
And computers
rigid crescent
but I've also heard someone Tupper seemed to at least be familiar with drop the n-bomb in his face multiple times, and all he said was something along the lines of "yikes that's edgy"
rigid crescent
what would've happened if a rando did that?
umbral reef
For me the game is about creating avatars and jokes
rigid crescent
Friends of Guest, Cardboard Box mirror map
ruby burrow
Are you suggesting that Tupper has a bias for StarTrek players. This is a huge scandal. D:
umbral nova
Yea LOL
rigid crescent
I had to dip, it was so laggy
umbral reef
@rigid crescent They dont always moderate everything and if someone reported it they would be banned after still as he would not be the one judging that revieuw
rigid crescent
But yeah that's what I'm talking about. To some mods, a friend dropping the N-Bomb (Hard R and all) and an enemy or acquaintance dropping it aren't the same.
umbral reef
But thats always a thing- Only time it isnt is when there are no mods at all 👏
So i dont see the problem lmao
umbral nova
Anyway Imma go for a second
woven stone
@granite coral or they could just work on the security in the game and make everyone who's nice happy ingame
ruby burrow
I wonder how life as an in-game moderator would go. I feel like I'd just end up lurking and leering at anyone with a hip-hop style hat all day. ._.
umbral reef
Its all about finding the right people who dont give enough fucks about friends or have proper friends while also having moral judgement enough to moderate
Aint every rando you find
woven stone
I kinda instablock people with anything resembling some hip hop gang shit hat 🤷
umbral reef
But plenty out there
rigid crescent
It's obviously a problem. Outsourcing moderation might be a viable way to do it assuming it's people that don't give two shits about socializing.
umbral reef
They will not understand the social things happening- Can just get a robot to do the same
And look at facebook how neato robots work
Or robot like humans
rigid crescent
That's not exactly common Oclac, and that's also not what the team is doing to begin with
As evident by the guy stalking my friend til he slipped up or a guy dropping multiple n-bombs in tupper's face
They're already not finding the "right people"
umbral reef
Who says they wont ban a knuckle saying he is from uganda and asking for the way?
Can be judged as racist towards uganda peeps by someone who doesnt get the game
And paying a moderation group is expensive as fuckkk btw
tacit plank
Algorithms can't judge people
rigid crescent
I just think solving the moderation problem they have now would help before expanding it even more
tacit plank
They could give some known players access to kick and temp ban, but honestly, a lot of known players are assholes as well
umbral reef
That human thing you dislike as it causes problems is always there 👏
Even if work gets out sourced
rigid crescent
because I'm not trying to get banned just for being buddies with someone that doesn't like my friend
It's a "who watches the watchmen" kind of thing
umbral nova
Alright I'm bqck
queen mango
Hmm... Couldn't at least look for someone eligible for a modder whose timezone is around Asia?
tacit plank
Th good thing about staff is that they can ban a ban player the moment they see them. No need for logs or paperwork.
Do admins and mods actually go to public instances anymore?
umbral reef
Like
Get a group to have more trusted reports
Get peeps the tools to flag users for revieuw
Get peeps to kick/check of flaged users in public public worlds
Get peeps a greenlight ban system (More then one greenlight needed to ban ofc)
umbral nova
Ah caffeine joined in
rigid crescent
You could maybe mitigate it by requiring recorded evidence from moderators (so they're only banning/kicking/warning while on the 'clock') and then having those reviewed randomly by people higher up
umbral reef
Make the one who can ban rare
Be hars on staff for making mistakes
rigid crescent
but im sure that has its own holes
umbral reef
Everything has holes
Its all about having the least holes
rigid crescent
yeah, that's true
umbral reef
And what you said is a way to reduce them
rigid crescent
It's a system that I genuinely don't believe they have in place
or any system at all to be honest
ruby burrow
@woven stone More than that really, legacy animations are flat out not supported in newer versions of Unity. They would eventually cease to exist regardless of the devs intent. Spare if they freeze the game in the current version forever.
umbral reef
Take a guess what system i have been yelling about all night and the past 3 months
queen mango
Chairs?
rigid crescent
All those things combined with the required recorded evidence would definitely mitigate "socially charged" bans by a lot
ruby burrow
Creators should keep in mind, that even their older uploads that still have their legacy anims working, will be broken eventually.
cold talon
oh shit waddup
umbral reef
What you just suggested is just an version of how the mod system works in discord and what i would love ingame
cold talon
custom animators!
tacit plank
Personally, I don't think we should use any system which might ban the wrong person, or which can be abused
cold talon
rigid crescent
Enough where I'd think we'd be safe from just frivolous banning
umbral nova
Custom animators lmao
umbral reef
Same that in here i would love to see some peeps with a 'Known helper' tag
rigid crescent
well, mostly safe
umbral reef
Nothing special beside the tag but a way to confirm they are trust worthy
vocal shard
Who really is trustworthy 🤔
rigid crescent
but until they have a system like you suggested in place (and imo video evidence should 100% be required since they expect it of us), then i don't think the moderation team ingame should expand
umbral reef
@tacit plank So no mods then?
rigid crescent
some people are, no one is absolutely trustworthy
woven stone
@granite coral you can't keep something in place until you have a new thing to replace it with, if its a security issue thats bigger than ISIS
tacit plank
You can make sure
umbral reef
The way to expand is to get an system like that
tacit plank
If somebody is suspected of being a crasher, look in his avatar files
rigid crescent
But systems like that help make it harder to get around it and just ban someone you don't like because he made a joke about a close friend's avatar
ruby burrow
Video logs of bans would definitely help the appeal process by a lot. Not that I've ever had any concerns regarding this, but it's a good idea all the same.
queen mango
So hold up a second... What are you discussing here?
tacit plank
We're not allowed to do that, but staff can no problem
rigid crescent
Increased moderation, the issues with it, fixing security exploits, etc
woven stone
@granite coral they need more workers 🤷
umbral reef
Im done with it for today
queen mango
Both the game and this Discord, yes?
rigid crescent
ingame mainly
woven stone
don't go pointing at the devs, go point at the people abusing shit @granite coral
rigid crescent
Discord moderation is surprisingly lax
ruby burrow
I always roll my eyes any time someone makes the "literally 5 minutes" comment, regarding the development of absolutely any game.
woven stone
its not easy, but changing the hate on those that destroyed it for everyone is the first important step
rigid crescent
like i genuinely am surprised i haven't been kicked yet tbh, im probably on a list tho
queen mango
@rigid crescent Probably the punishment we could face is being Ruubwhipped. Heh
woven stone
@rigid crescent you are around bad people and you know it lol
rigid crescent
I meant in discord 😄
woven stone
why would you, you don't say anything bad ... seems like a normal discussion to me?
rigid crescent
I'm crazy rude here what are you talking about lol
afaik though, I'm not around anyone doing anything malicious ingame though
just some lewd pals
my friends' list is pretty wholesome as far as bad guys go though
umbral reef
@rigid crescent ya havent been rude so far in this convo at all btw
sterile drift
I'm very memey at times in here but I'm serious when I need to be. Can't say it's any different in-game lmao
rigid crescent
yeah that's because no one's said anything blatantly stupid lol
ruby burrow
Devs: "We're going to build a treehouse for everyone to enjoy!"
Users: "We're going to set it on fire every other minute."
Devs: "Adding more wood is only making this worse, haven't got enough buckets, shit..."
Users: "Why is nothing getting built!? Where did my favourite branch go!?"
umbral reef
Everyone here acted at worse dry cut and upfront about things
vocal shard
If you want to be kicked out, I can help with that.
umbral reef
@vocal shard Ban me bby
vocal shard
kk
sterile drift
@ruby burrow L O L
ruby needle
Rip Oclac 
rigid crescent
Ban Reason: Wanted to be banned. Weird fetish, but I went along with it.
rigid crescent
that's probably what the logs will read
sterile drift
Oclac is dead
floral aspen
RIP in pepperonis Oclac
We'll never forget you
sterile drift
Mic LMAO
rigid crescent
RIP in Peace bro
vocal shard
Who's Oclac?
queen mango
Well, RIP Oclac.
rigid crescent
Are :Oclac: emotes bannable now?
neon flume
a moment of silence for Oclac
rigid crescent
#freeoclac
floral aspen
Oclac got yeeted so hard even the memory of him is banned
queen mango
Btw... Are there any prerequisites to being a chat mod?
vocal shard
You'll get called when they need you.
umbral reef
Hello people i have never spoken to
sterile drift
Tidus who is this Oclac you speak of?
rigid crescent
THE CALL
floral aspen
idk, don't know why I mentioned him
woven stone
@granite coral the ones that fucked you over are the people that ABUSED what could have been used nicely
rigid crescent
What happened to compatible :0 weren't they a mod
floral aspen
yes, Compat was a mod but was almost never active
queen mango
Damn... My timezone's a sweetspot for activities like this
velvet quarry
Compatible resigned by their own accord, didn't feel like they had the time anymore.
rigid crescent
i liked them, they came in ULTRA snarky when someone said something stupid
ruby burrow
I got banned from Imgur by a widespread mass banning bug they had once. I was very conflicted about appealing it, considering the time it was saving me.
rigid crescent
that's the type of mod I aspire to be whenever I'm given power somewhere
umbral reef
Just realized i dont have my old pfp anymore
woven stone
if nobody abuses the bug, it can still be fixed, if everyone abuses the bug but it can't be fixed immediatly FOR WHATEVER REASON.
its on the bug abusers, not the devs
umbral reef
Welp thats tomorrows problem not today
sterile drift
I feel like I could just be the mod that people know they can mess with
Not saying I want to be
But I could
median basalt
Yo, did I miss a discussion about custom animators, legacy animations, and footstep IK triggers?
sterile drift
L O L
woven stone
I'd do nothing but run through all public maps over and over and instaban everyone with any kind of crash avatars or anything 🤷 no fucking remorse
rigid crescent
@median basalt
sterile drift
Not the IK triggers Rokk
queen mango
Right. I suppose one has to spend more time chatting in this Discord for the higher-ups to notice.
Oh.. maybe they thought they can handle it, Rokk
median basalt
Someone says something like that and I just get summoned here like some sort of demon
ruby burrow
Back in that previous community, I was always the slightly more lenient mod. I'd come in and be writing a warning, when another mod would swoop in and ban them before they could read it.
median basalt
Give custom animators on humanoids, btw.
sterile drift
Lawl
median basalt
Would actually replace legacy neatly.
Devs remove stuff but don't give us replacements
Dang
sterile drift
ouch
median basalt
Remove non friends cameras, replace with blit. Remove IK triggers and legacy, replace with custom animators. Sounds like a very fair deal. But nope
ruby burrow
Both justified enough responses in most cases.
woven stone
I can only repeat shit, don't blame the devs, but those that abuse the shit out of it and made the feature go away in the first place
sterile drift
@median basalt Better idea, let cameras be used by the Shield System
woven stone
🤷
median basalt
@sterile drift I agree
sterile drift
So you don't have to friend someone just to see their cameras.
median basalt
Cameras were restricted due to trust reasons
Why aren't they in the damn trust system???
sterile drift
Let's make a Canny
median basalt
We already made cannys
sterile drift
Can ye do that?
median basalt
Because feature requests are either already on their roadmap and get marked as review/in progress (and still aren't implemented a year later)
Or they get ignored like custom animators and graphics.blit
median basalt
Alternative to cameras for shader purposes
woven stone
fuck graphics.blit
median basalt
Would allow shaders to store and retrieve data inside textures rather than abusing laggy cameras for the same thing.
woven stone
dont give us a new feature that can be abused
median basalt
GPU particles for example
median basalt
The devs just patchwork remove something that can be exploited and leave it there
Legacy animations would have been really cool if they were restricted to being inside the avatar only
woven stone
Legacy animations were so fucking abusable, please, just let them die already
median basalt
I wouldn't mourn legacy if we had custom animators, just saying
umbral reef
So any of you new people want to play ?
woven stone
it is
median basalt
Ok, explain
woven stone
I am not gonna tell people how to break TOS
queen mango
@umbral reef Not yet... Hmm, you look familiar
median basalt
We already know you're a troll, I just want to see you fail to explain yourself.
Go ahead.
umbral reef
@queen mango Nah, your mistaking me
Ask advert- We are old friends
They cna confirm im me
sterile drift
Rokk I would've loved to have you here earlier when he was talking about crashers and such lol
queen mango
Oh right.. Didn‘t see anything here
woven stone
Rokk is just mad because hes part of the cancerous side of VRC
median basalt
You're not explaining how to break the TOS though because Blit doesn't exist. You just don't have an explanation because you're trolling.
woven stone
... bruh
queen mango
Haven‘t we all, Eevee
sterile drift
Hoppou I thought you said he was "mad at the cancerous side"
velvet quarry
We've been having a nice conversation here, let's not start throwing labels and insults around now.
woven stone
@vocal shard thats the sad part, because I can understand WHY animators are mad, but I cant symphazise with them
umbral reef
Cibbi 😂
median basalt
Please remove custom avatars thanks
queen mango
Pls no labels
umbral reef
@velvet quarry You are not bestboi 
So not like that 👀
median basalt
@vocal shard I based that on my earlier interactions with him
woven stone
earlier interactions
median basalt
Actually just the one interaction I guess
sterile drift
Let's remove custom avatars. Problems of crashing and general abuse solved 👏
woven stone
the one interaction where I disagreed with you
makes me a troll, I just value security more than some stupid lil opimization for shaders to make it less laggy
median basalt
No, the interaction where you argued in favor of removing avatars or making them paid only
sterile drift
Paid avatars
umbral reef
Just like he suggested today 🤔
queen mango
Uhh... Afro, are you sure this chat won't go bonkers the next minute or so?
woven stone
a Paid upload system is something to help a company grow.
Thats just an IDEA, i didn't say it needs to happen
but it would be a interesting twist
let people that get banned over and over pay for the game lol
sterile drift
Interesting twist for people to waste their money just to add a simple update to an avatar
woven stone
not every upload
median basalt
People already pay for crashers, you think they won't pay for crash access?
woven stone
just like a B2P model
once bought you can upload as much as you want
thats what I meant
median basalt
No, paid would make sure that only two groups of people upload avatars: professional creators and autismo gang types.
sterile drift
Less would, but still
queen mango
Hmm.. That can do
sterile drift
It would still be just as much as a problem as it is now.
median basalt
Dude, you clearly don't know these gangs
rigid crescent
lol paying to add a hairbow to my avatar?
median basalt
If anything it would encourage a false sense of security
woven stone
I said like a B2P model, but a Pay2Upload, you pay ONCE and you can upload forever
queen mango
Considering the amount of low quality avatars, I'd say this should be a means to quality assurance
woven stone
if you get banned you lose your money and have to repurchase
queen mango
Okay... Custom avatars should cost less than licensed avatars
woven stone
I think we are all talking about different things
sterile drift
Avatar commissions
vocal shard
There's two sides to the coin here... On the other hand... There are plenty who gained an interest because of the free upload system... Making it paid only would harm the already small creative community in a way...
woven stone
I'd say the game is F2P as it is now, but what I meant before is you can purchas a LIFETIME upload that is account bound.
woven stone
@uneven drift there you have to weigh the pros and cons, nothing in this game comes without any counterarguments
median basalt
You underestimate these groups of pure autism
They would gladly keep paying to crash people
sterile drift
Yep
median basalt
Especially if they can make private worlds to host the crash avatars
queen mango
Interesting... That's human nature
median basalt
So that way they only pay once
gleaming patio
i work on a gallery kinda site. rokk is not wrong
woven stone
then they would pay for the game and increase the amount of cashflow you can pump into GM's / moderators
vocal shard
Could paying to upload cause some issues with copyright though...
median basalt
Hundreds of people can easily keep coughing up the money for one crasher account you know
gleaming patio
there are people who actually create hundreds of accounts manually just to poison the system
woven stone
or about 200+
sterile drift
Not paying for the rights of the model you're uploading
ruby needle
having core features completely unacessible without a pay wall would ruin this game, it beeing extendable as in, x amount of free slots might be doable but for any "payment" together with uploads we'll get into big copyright issues
gleaming patio
we keep banning them every day but they keep solving captchas on proxies and everything lol
queen mango
Most people making content here probably have enough money to cover the license fee
plain ridge
Could be seen as the company making money off of another persons copyright material.
gleaming patio
two class society inc
median basalt
That just sounds like pestering, not crash prevention @vocal shard
plain ridge
I think we have been so lucky with not having much in the way of copyright issues with all of our avatars and such because there is little to no money exchange happening with the game.
woven stone
just bring out whitelists and dont allow anything custom until it has been whitelisted 🤷
ruby needle
with the amount of avatars many people have i belive a slot system is more then fine ^^
woven stone
X avatar slots after that you gotta pay for more slots
sterile drift
As in you have a designated amount of upload slots?
Oh
Well that might be a problem for users like me
I have like
ruby needle
are we talking about preventing malicious use or making profit 
sterile drift
Over 208 avatars
woven stone
preventing malicious use, the paywall is strictly to be like "man I gotta cough up money because I got banned again"
sterile drift
So I might need to pay over $100 just to get like the free slots I want
ruby needle
putting that behind a paywall is stupid. people will find other exploits
woven stone
@granite coral oh please, its an infinite amount of custom shaders running rampant.
shaders that if blocked infinitely lag you etc. please
queen mango
Damn... I'm outta ideas
median basalt
Proper ingame moderation
Automated systems will only poison the custom creation system
woven stone
@granite coral if you dont know how it works, then you didn't encounter it
there is ways to get around the system so that blocking certain shaders crashes you and / or lags you out to infinity
sterile drift
@median basalt And they already poison the creation system enough 
woven stone
blocking shaders as in using the trust system to block shaders
if you click that button to block shaders it starts
that is what I meant
also on an unrelated note, sometimes if you block something it emits a blinding white light so bright it hurts.
I reported that bug already
woven stone
@granite coral but you can also make it like the "no anime" penguins where blocking the shaders even if you always have that feature enabled like me, lags you infinitely
queen mango
I know
woven stone
and you gotta restart or hope to god you can dip to your homeworld
queen mango
It's just that the malicious side adapts and evolves faster that the other side
median basalt
Oh yeah, blocked shaders can flash on cloth
median basalt
You're willingly taking that risk by breaking stuff, current fallback system is terrible
woven stone
that can really shine like a fucking quasar
I just block the person if I see it happening 🤷
my eyesight man
median basalt
It's bloom coupled with impossible geometry
woven stone
I know the problem, we already reported it
who knows who reads it tho
aight gonna repeat myself
it happens if you use the trust and safety system and click on "disable shaders" not saying it IS the shaders, saying this setting itself enables the problem
median basalt
I got shaders that only show up if shaders are blocked
Fallback system is not usable for creators
They already tried whitelists
They got rid of that
woven stone
yes, yes, because there is a fuckton of shadercrasher
would be nice if that gets adressed
median basalt
You think such a system would even help? They would switch to methods that don't require avatar access at all
Or they would have one account to upload crash avatars
woven stone
people already do that
median basalt
Yeah but costs would not be a deterrent to these people at all
woven stone
@granite coral man you'd argue to hell and back just to not agree with me, its ok tho.
i get it, you wan't the cancer to stay, I don't.
I can agree that we will forever disagree.
median basalt
They only need one account and they're all covered
woven stone
money hurts people
vocal shard
Hey lad
woven stone
because most of those guys have too much time
queen mango
Oh hey
vocal shard
Or hey lads
median basalt
@woven stone maybe if you stopped strawmanning like that, people wouldn't call you a troll
covert chasm
vocal shard
Irumi ;3
queen mango
Tupp is here
vocal shard
TupperWare giving us some leaks 
woven stone
@median basalt tbh, what does Strawmanning mean
neon flume
don't tease us like this 😰
vocal shard
Tupper with the subject change ^^
covert chasm
I honestly didn't wait to see what the chatter was about, post n run
median basalt
Saying things like "oh, if you disagree with me you're part of the cancer community and you want it to stay"
vocal shard
Smart
queen mango
Oof
woven stone
its my opinion @median basalt I dont say people have to share it
neon flume
That finger tracking is actually so impressive. I can't wait for the knuckles to be out and widely used.
queen mango
@vocal shard Dammit, Kindbot!
neon flume
Also, is that an Apple Keyboard in front of a Windows laptop? 🤔
vocal shard
Wait, what did I do?
woven stone
^
queen mango
@vocal shard Gave me a laugh trip for saying TupperWare
woven stone
creative freedom goes HAND IN HAND with cancer
woven stone
you have to highly limit it and then very slowly open it up again AFTER you fixed the problems
so you have an edge in the fight against it
woven stone
not give everyone everything and hope to god noone finds the big red nuke button
vocal shard
It's supposed to keep everything tight and fresh
queen mango
Man, the avatar creators thing is really controversial here
vocal shard
UwU, what's this?
cold talon
have you tried turning it off and back on?
woven stone
but again, thats my opinion, you dont ahve to share it
queen mango
It's hurting my head
woven stone
enough avatar creators that don't bitch n cry, we got a lot of em
cold talon
but custom animators on the other hand
vocal shard
That's another story ^
median basalt
@cold talon ssshhh, you'll get called part of the cancer community for not wanting to be restricted to Nikei!
vocal shard
BOOTLEG JAMIE SPOTTED
cold talon
darth vader noooo
woven stone
aight I see the discussion now went downhill because whatever I say, you 2 will downplay it no matter what.
vocal shard
Nothing personal lad
median basalt
The game hasn't been treating avatar makers fairly
woven stone
Its aight, have a nice weekend, we might disagree but I don't hate on people i don't know
median basalt
Hope they throw us a bone
queen mango
@woven stone Go to sleep
woven stone
@median basalt only PART of the avatar maker community, we created thousands of avatars and only a fraction of my people moaned here and there
but we kept creating
cold talon
oy sorry, but its general, multiple discussions can go on at once no?
just like how wifi routers comunicate 
queen mango
I guess, that's true. Unless Ruubick comes and sees this
woven stone
creativity can bloom even with restrictions, just...need to get creative haha
vocal shard
Hey Hoppou, I'd like to ask you a quick question
queen mango
Hehehehe
vocal shard
HOw many people have come to you asking for free shit? I presume your work is paid
woven stone
@vocal shard we created over 500 avatars for people without payment
vocal shard
And I understand what artists have to do to sustain themselves, I do completely
woven stone
no its not paid
vocal shard
Ahhh
woven stone
Legion gives out avatars for free
woven stone
we have commissioners ofc
median basalt
Sorry that we wanna do more with avatars than port model and slap standard or cubed on it
/shrug
woven stone
Man, now you are just trying to insult my group, if you insult then at least direct it towards me
not a group of people you never had to deal with
median basalt
I don't like cubed but standard really doesn't look good on toony models
rigid crescent
lol
rigid crescent
I prefer @royal pond's shader tbh
median basalt
Lots of good toon shaders that aren't cubed
Haven't tried Synergiance yet
Cubed has good outlines though
It's funny how I always used outlines on everything before
But now I don't like how they look anymore
Even on characters that are normally drawn and have outlines in the source material
Unless it's Pokemon or ace attorney
umbral nova
My models usually have outline if their source art style uses them
I use Pokemon models a lot though sp
median basalt
I actually think Cubed's outlines are good. Noenoe is shader forge and has weird edges.
umbral nova
Yea but that's with postprocessing
median basalt
Poiyomi is also good
Oh yeah, friend of mine has a shader like that
It can also reveal polys if done right
Just depth testing
Was the shader laggy, or is it because it needed a realtime directional light with shadows?
Unfortunately, slight film grain makes depth texture very grainy
Ah
queen mango
Probably did
queen mango
Well, it was getting a bit salty there
umbral nova
I mean the last bit of the conversation seems pretty wholesome
queen mango
Yeah..
royal pond
Muhrr
royal pond
@median basalt did you want to try my shader?
umbral nova
Did you say shader?
woven stone
Shader? Triggered HoppouLover420 noises
median basalt
Yeah @royal pond
rigid crescent
It's my favorite
royal pond
Ok lemme pm you the invite
vocal shard
So uh I've been having a problem with my VrChat and I don't know how to fix it could someone give me a hand?
umbral reef
If you say what the problem is we can try to help
vocal shard
okay
well it is loading me into the login screen but the login gets stuck, and takes 5 minutes or more to load me into my home loading screen, which takes 5 more minutes. When I am finally loaded into a world, it doesn't load my avatars, friends list, or worlds. The game eventually just kicks me out.
what do you guys think is the problem
umbral reef
Tried the stuff in #vrchat-support (like clearing cache) yet?
vocal shard
yes
umbral reef
And you have enough space left on your drives?
vocal shard
pretty sure
umbral reef
Well you can check that so...
But unless you are running on way under the norm specs i cant think of anything you could do to instantly solve it
vocal shard
I have like 389 gigs left
umbral reef
👏 Last time chancing pfp's
vocal shard
and my specs are fine, I am using full body, and it worked fine before
umbral reef
Then i suggest just emailing support and see what they got to tell ya
vocal shard
okay
royal sparrow
are you able to change ur username at all?
been trying to but i cant seem to find out how/where
velvet quarry
There was a method, but it's currently on hold for a more proper implementation
So you'll have to wait a bit, but the team is working on it
royal sparrow
alright thx
cyan torrent
anyone having problems with random low fps right now
royal sparrow
i was getting that every once in a while....
cyan torrent
standing in home world alone and randomly dropping to like 10-11 for no reason
velvet quarry
Make sure there are no CPU intensive applications running in the background, especially if you have VR
Unity tends to be a bit of a resource hog, so I would recommend keeping that closed when in VR mode.
tacit plank
One case I have noticed as well is hitting a mesh collider
I should probably report that one as a bug, right? Stepping on a shovel almost lagged me out once, as did touching a bench.
And in my own world, a 5k polygon mesh collider will sometimes cut my FPS in half (keyword here, it only happens when you touch it in a specific way)
It might improve now that I've set it to be a static object, but it's still untested and I kind of doubt it too
rough pulsar
@tacit plank A 5k poly mesh collider is gonna kill your fps the instant unity has to do colission detection with it. You should keep mesh colliders as simple as possible. Don't be afraid to take a duplicate of your high-res mesh and decimate the ever living fuck out of it to use as a mesh collider.
royal pond
Can I quote this?
tacit plank
Ah, I see. That's unfortunate. I thought it was a bug, but it seems that Unity just doesn't have a good way of calculating collisions then. Doesn't static help?
royal pond
“Decimate the ever living fuck out of it”
- Gallium
rough pulsar
Haha sure :D
http://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipfs/QmYWNXX2PDTpSSQTMngekzzU55s3ab8egwZ4hSjMEyhhVt/UMC.png
Here's an example of using a higher poly mesh visually, and a decimated collider.
Green being collider and grey being visual.
granite bolt
Quick question, Im about to get into avatar making and I was told that the first thing I need is the correct version of Unity. How the hell do I know which version I need?
tacit plank
It seems like a great way to do it, but I didn't save my Blender file when I the room which is now my mesh collider, and it has a lot of thin things, so they will only have collisions from one side if I decimate them very much...
rough pulsar
@granite bolt You need unity 5.6.3p1, if you login to the vrchat site (vrchat.com) and click download in the left sidebar there's a link to the right unity version.
granite bolt
Thank you very much
tacit plank
Got it down to 715 tris..
covert chasm
thorny lark
granite bolt
Noice
ivory folio
I'm assuming if someone changes their username, then that old username is no longer available for anyone to use?
covert chasm
so you've got two "names" in VRChat. Your username (which is the first name you've ever used, and never changes) and your display name (which is what shows in nameplates)
Let's say my username is Tupper, and my displayname is Tupper2. I change my Display name to Tupper3. Now, Tupper2 is opened up
however, nobody can ever use Tupper, because its my username (and never changes)
and nobody can use Tupper3, unless I change to something else
Hopefully that's clear enough 😃
ivory folio
ah ok, thanks
worthy flame
Anyone know why VRChat pegs my friends CPU @ 100%? I bought her this laptop about 6 months to a year ago https://www.amazon.com/Flagship-Dell-Inspiron-Computer-i5-7300HQ/dp/B07H3TQ3RH/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1541813894&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=Dell+inspirion+gaming+laptop&psc=1
She's using Oculus and keeps her sensors are 3.1 gen 2 thunderbolt.
rough pulsar
That sounds about right for vrchat. It's more CPU intensive then GPU most of the time.
tacit plank
Be sure to enable turbo mode on that CPU
worthy flame
Yeah I just went through and made sure it was and it is but no dice still
She's still pegged @ 100% and he screen is jittering like crazy making her sick >.<
her*
tacit plank
That sounds bad, close VRChat for now and update the drivers or something
worthy flame
Yeah I've already went through all of her drivers and made sure they were up to date.
dense osprey
Yeah it sucks so bad, makes vrchat unplayable for me 😦
tacit plank
And check what else is running. It probably arrived with garbage on it. I had to remove "Office click to run" on my latest laptop because it used freaking 30% on its own
tacit plank
If it's just VRChat itself using towards 100%, there's probably a configuration or driver thing gone wrong, but I bet other things are taking some of the performance
worthy flame
I usually go through and get rid of all the bloatware but it's possible something has gone wrong for sure.
I don't ever notice it because I'm on a custom pc with a 9900k but for her it's like hell because she already gets massive motion sickness outside of VR
tacit plank
Oh, another thing, make sure that the game is not launching on the on-board graphics (intel hd graphics)
worthy flame
Yeah I already checked that.
worthy flame
Yeah I would think so
tacit plank
And her GPU is above minimum specs. So it's some software thing gone wrong, unless thunderbolt has a say in it, I don't have any experience with that
worthy flame
Yeah her sensors were coming back with the low bandwidth error but we lucked into her having TB and they came back okay.
tacit plank
Before they were running what?
worthy flame
They were running on the normal 3.0
Then we plugged in the Thunderbolt and it worked like a charm
meager solstice
Is this with her on vr?
inner oak
Hello
dense osprey
'Yes @meager solstice
meager solstice
Is it oculus or Vive?
worthy flame
Oculus
vocal shard
ocolus vive
meager solstice
I might have an idea of how u could use less cpu
worthy flame
??
meager solstice
Have u tried using open composite?
worthy flame
Can't say we have since I don't know what that is.
meager solstice
Essentially what it does is it stops steamvr from running but still uses the steam api to connect to games
meager solstice
I can link it to u
worthy flame
Please do
dense osprey
Yes
queen mango
Bloody hell, lot's of lag spikes today
civic plume
morning
royal pond
Can you change your display name back to your username?
gleaming patio
if you block someone, will they just stay blocked by their user name internally when they change names?
vocal shard
REEEEEEEEE...
gleaming patio
reEeEeE
cobalt mountain
i think someone hacked my account, i can't log in anymore or change my password, anything i can do?
it says "user not found" when i try to log in, anyone know anything about that?
when i try to change my password in the site (vrchat.net) it says "400:old password required"
it happened when a crasher asked ppl for me to unblock them in a "never have i ever" game to hear me, then game logged off after 10 seconds :/
anyone had anything like that happen to them?
modern sand
Could you not ?
vocal shard
i dont, every single time 😠
queen mango
Look, Tony.. Spamming or flooding the chat is not good. Worst thing is that you get beaned by Ruub.
civic plume
dont spam
queen mango
Well, getting Ruubwhipped is a bit less serious, but that's only if it is off-topic.
Still, don‘t do either of those
In any case, goodnight East Coast and Europe.
vocal shard
I feel bad that VRC has given me hundreds of hours of entertainment and I have no way to throw money at the devs
neon flume
They sell coffee mugs, shirts, and other accessories on Threadless
https://vrchat.threadless.com/designs/coffee-mug/accessories/mug/standard?color=white&size=11oz
vocal shard
umbral oracle
Shut up and take my money 💵 this discord needs to add the new emoji
mortal girder
I saw someone earlier with a cute booette avatar named shadowmaster 😢 I need a booette avatar
stable zodiac
So where do we change our username?
safe prism
read the link in #announcements
turbid pulsar
make sdk limit higher yes?
safe prism
no
final kelp
Im having sdk problems, helpppppppppppp
halcyon kestrel
man having a blast in VRCHAT rn
neon flume
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 8249 users in VRChat currently
neon flume
Yeah, looks like it's a busy night! 😄
rigid crescent
ThE gAmE iS dYiNg
halcyon kestrel
perfect vr game
halcyon kestrel
PERFECT vr game
tropic grail
Pretty sure he was sarcastic tho
halcyon kestrel
PERFECT vr game...
vernal jacinth
nice meme
halcyon kestrel
meme? i dont think so
vernal jacinth
xd
neon flume
Actually Oculus Eyeballs VR Demo is the perfect VR game. You get to pull your eyes off and look around like a chameleon. What more could you want.
https://jackbrookes.itch.io/eyeballs-vr-demo
mortal girder
what the
vernal jacinth
o
neon flume
The top comment is quite the glowing review:
"Wow, I never want to do that again!
Great work!"
lunar oasis
can i post yet
queen mango
You can post pictures in #general-media
Just make sure it isn't NSFW. Simple as that.
cosmic oyster
Is there a way for Vrchat to regonzie my headset mic?
nimble linden
Are we able to change our name back to a previously used username?
modern sand
As long as it's not in use, sure
worthy flame
Can someone tell me why VRChat is consuming (In task manager) 99% of my friends system resources? mainly cpu. Just tried an earlier suggestion for open composite use and no dice. Her computer is ---> https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Laptop-Intel-Graphics-Memory/dp/B0764HW117/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1541830883&sr=8-8&keywords=Dell+Inspirion+gaming+laptop
VRChat is the only game that does this in VR
haughty gazelle
Is it me or have the last couple updates just outright raped the AMD drivers?
I'm getting more display driver crashes than successful loads into worlds
and I have changed nothing about my system
rough flax
I would actually like to get the game to back before the knuckles.. After the knuckles, it went downhil.
hill
I had a friend in every public instance
weary cypress
@worthy flame Vrchat is CPU Intensive .
weary cypress
Im glad you did
vocal shard
I was able to stream VRChat with reasonable frames
Just lowered the quality to 720p30
It was decent, except for a few things, but playable
vocal shard
I have NVENC encoding on
weary cypress
compared to gpu
vocal shard
That's GPU encoding
weary cypress
yeah , that's what i usually do too
vocal shard
Trust me lad, I went through everything I could, I need to get Oculus Tray Tool on soon™
rigid crescent
still timing out :0
vocal shard
will attempt to play tonight... First time since the update... Let's see how it goes.
Lol
It wasn't that bad for me
I'm used to frame drops already, no big deal
fallen thunder
Sorry for bothering again, do you know if it is already possible to make a name change?
queen mango
Apparently, Tupper said something about an unrelated bug that caused them to roll back some code
And unfortunately, it also included the code for the namechanger.
fallen thunder
@vocal shard I do not find that option
queen mango
Oof
flint ore
I like how there's a #FURRY room in the great pug lmao
languid beacon
Will Udon allow text coding or must you use the visual node thing?
still lark
Visual nodes only
north axle
Text coding is the dream. We're not gonna get there though.
safe prism
i'll script a js to udon compiler
coarse anchor
This game is ruined for me
When you turn around in the loading screen it still uses the old buttons
Unplayable pls fix
north axle
clever nimbus
@haughty gazelle What GPU?
vocal shard
They copied vrchat and just changed names
lol
Unless its just like a chinese version of vrchat that devs made
tepid scarab
Howdy folks. Is it allowed to ask about support in one of these channels or is that restricted to the support email?
umbral reef
If you want official VRC support? Yes thats only done by email
But the odds of someone here knowing the answer to a question is big so
tepid scarab
doesn't have to be official
I'm just tryna get my controller to work. Apparently it works right out of the box for other people but VRC doesnt seem to recognize it. If anyone knows about steps needed to get it working, please feel free to ping me.
umbral reef
What controller are you using?
tepid scarab
I've tried a PS4 and a PS3 one
both of which emulate an XBox one, which is compatible with most games out there
umbral reef
And how did you connect them?
umbral reef
And you looked in the settings of VRC already?
vital rune
trying to play VRC with a non-VR controller?
tepid scarab
you mean the configuration window before starting? I dont see any option in game
is there a list of supported controllers?
umbral reef
No.. I mean ingame ingame
vital rune
and no, you cant configure controller control inputs
I'm using a wireless X360 controller, works fine\
vital rune
idk, when I turn on my controller it recognizes it immediately
tepid scarab
that's my PS4 controller which steam "translates" into a virtual XBox controller
vital rune
then I have no idea
tepid scarab
dang it. most people i've asked have said the same
@umbral reef do you mind showing me the in game controller settings you mentioned?
umbral reef
Im not at my VR pc so dont have VRC installed so cant :x
But i think what you showed in the screenshot is what i meant
tepid scarab
yea cuz i dont see any controller options in game besides mouse related stuff https://i.imgur.com/XYKxT9B.png
I can't map buttons using the configuration window either (nothing happens when I press a controller button to bind) https://i.imgur.com/QGet55V.png
zinc solar
Water, everyone drinks it! But is it... Racist? The answers may shock you...
umbral reef
Its a maybe
next fjord
Water Is transparent and white is seen as transparent so water is white which makes it racist
safe prism
white isn't transparent
trasnparent is a parent that is trans dum
why is discord so baka
queen mango
You can say that to the kids and squeakers
civic plume
baka
drifting adder
Does anyone know if you can change your username in vrchat?
vocal shard
north axle
support@vrchat.com
vocal shard
Pretty sure that one doesn't work anymore as they're working with the new way of changing names.
north axle
The email still works, I think.
vocal shard
Unless I missed someone saying that way's available again because of the rollback of the code, Ruuubick said they no longer do name changes in that email.
umbral reef
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/uyGEn40 @vocal shard @north axle
So advert was righto
Wait it's a broken link 
vocal shard
That sends me to an error page-
north axle
Nonetheless, it works, they just don't want to use it this way.
drifting adder
perfect timing
umbral reef
Well you can always send a email but the odds of them just not doing anything is big...
queen mango
Tupper announced it earlier this afternoon that they had to roll back the codes, including the ones for namechanges, due to an unrelated bug
And before you ask. Yes, timezones
umbral reef
Ow yes saw that also but could not screenshot it
meager solstice
They found a bug that effected the name changing and have since removed it @vocal shard
But they said they will bring it back when they fix it
halcyon kestrel
hello
sand lava
hi
maiden hound
I have a question about windows mixed reality, since vrchat says vive and oculus, but no WMR. but vrchat still works in WMR. So can I play other games with wmr even if it says its not supported?
im talking about on steam
vocal shard
Yes. Almost any vive games will work
vocal shard
windows mixed reality is dog doodoo but uhhh ok
Alright... If thats how you feel about it
Between my rift experience and wmr experience, sure It's not quite as good, but it's definitely not bad (unless you get the HP. I just can't recommend that one)
did you say
rift
👀
neon flume
It seemed pretty good when I tried it out but I think it depends on what specific model you get.
vocal shard
wont message me so i can show him how to publicize his world
ya yeeet
thonkineg
Just boop his snoot
Works every time
boopy di snoot snoot di di boop
Snoppy doopity doop
vrchat keeps not loading worlds
he darn snoot too big for he boop
Swoopity boop
boooooooooooooooooooooppp
bipitty bop
languid beacon
i think the limits are backwards. 20,000 favorite slots, 3 polygon limit.
umbral reef
Could be something fun to try out
vocal shard
?
vocal shard
Well... We're gonna be waiting a long time then
umbral reef
Welp
People gotta learn the hard way
clever nimbus
When you add a week on to a year, it doesn't make much difference.
neon flume
Maybe it's already done, but because of all the pings we now have to wait 3018 to get unity 2018.
clever nimbus
They release it in 3018 but have to roll it back anyway.
umbral reef
Because of an audio bug
queen mango
@clever nimbus 3018?
clever nimbus
Yes.
It's the year 3018. We're full diving into VRChat now -- we've finally become actual anime girls.
vocal shard
There is no escape
The log out button has been removed
We now live in a virtual society
gleaming patio
die in vrchat, die for real
gleaming patio
how about that miners game where you shoot each other
queen mango
Steel N' Gold?
clever nimbus
Instead of the crash-on-exit bug, it's now the die-on-exit bug.
vocal shard
You are doomed to eternity in VRChat, but feel everything
gleaming patio
crasher avatar comes in
vocal shard
Including pleasure
gleaming patio
mass murder
vocal shard
Crashes no longer happen, you are one with the system
However, there is no way out
Try to disconnect, and you’ll die
gleaming patio
let the loli avatar lewding commence
vocal shard
The button is removed for your safety
Wait, that would be a fucking great writing prompt
clever nimbus
I can finally be one with my JoJo avatar.
Throw down some JoJo poses without breaking my bones.
rough flax
When someone says you can't crash people anymore 
true sky
I wonder if Windows updates will exist then as technology became perfect or windows doesn't exist
lofty kestrel
Imagine:
Pepsiman receiving a striptease from Billy Herrington while Lesser Dog plays Gay Bar by Electric Six on electric guitar.
I don't have to imagine it, I experienced it in vrchat last night.
I was Pepsiman.
queen mango
Oh my... That certainly wasn't enjoyable
ruby needle
do not post the same message across multiple channels simultaniously.
lean coyote
Well no one is replying on the other group
ruby needle
you posted it less then a minute before the second one
vocal shard
also stated in the rules to not post the same statement/question in multiple channels
vocal shard
Heyyyyooooooo
ocean bramble
Hi 🌺
rough flax
@ruby needle hi
ruby needle
Uhm, hello 
vocal shard
What’s up ™
vocal shard
Bad luck has hit me faster than a truck
queen mango
Why, what's happened?
vocal shard
Well, where do I start
Air conditioner burst into flames
Room set on fire
Wardrobe lost, bed sooted
Laptop which I use for vrchat?
Destroyed by copious amounts of ash
Its 5 am
I'm tired and exhausted but can't sleep because we gotta clean
Also because no bed
But I can't play vrchat unless I get a new pc.
meager solstice
Dam, sounds like you have had a rough a one
inner cape
Now that's an epic victory royale
vocal shard
👏 
inner cape
Yo live out there pls
Hope it doesn't get worse
inner cape
Well, what are the chances of all that happening
Pretty low
People always think luck is about positive things 
vocal shard
Luck is straight up damage chance
simple crow
I saw someone climbing in mid air on the box map he went all the way to the top anyone know how he did that?
rough flax
Magic
vocal shard
I got demoted from known user to user because i erased some avatars I uploaded?
simple crow
How do you even get trusted and user
pseudo basalt
By just playing the game enough
vocal shard
Uploading avatars, creating worlds, adding friends, playing the game
Trying to get SteamVR to work with just Google Cardboard, and Xbox 360, and a Kinect is hard
light saddle
Google cardboard? That isn’t going to work
vocal shard
I'm trying it. it gives me something to do
neon flume
Ehh apparently someone got it to work. I cannot recommend but if you have time and are very patient 🤷
vocal shard
The only issue I'm having is that the Xbox Controller won't work with SteamVR
neon flume
Last I heard I think the person I knew ended up picking up wii motes? Either that or switch controllers.
vocal shard
Probably would be better
I don't have bluetooth though
I don't feel like paying for an adapter just yet
neon flume
I saw them in VR later though, never got a chance to ask what they ended up using. Definitely were using a kinect, iphone in a cardboard mount, with some kind of controller.
Kind of amazing that it worked at all
vocal shard
The thing I'm using for the Kinect tracks your body
neon flume
Yup, I used a kinect for full body tracking before I got my trackers and lighthouses. Not bad if you get it setup just right.
vocal shard
Body tracking works. Just not the controller
VRChat can't do body tracking without VR, correct?
neon flume
I believe you need some kind of headset to get steam vr running yes. There might be some exceptionally strange way by disabling the headset requirements in steam vr but I've never tested it, nor heard of anyone trying it. I have no idea what would happen.
vocal shard
Seems reasonable
You should be able to use an Xbox controller. I used to play vrchat with my DK2 and just an Xbox controller
I mean I don't have any hand trackers to get it to work so I can't bind the keys
I just gave up on it and I'm just gonna wait to get VR in December
probably less of a headache
Was nothing better to do but it's stressing me out
sterile drift
I just realized I have 158 pages of messages when I search my name
neon flume
Work on avatars in the meantime! You'll have a bunch ready for you when you get VR.
I am a little baby, only 21 pages.
sterile drift
oh... I just looked at Rokk and he has 1,490 pages with 37,243 results OOF
neon flume
hmm, well may as well try it again if you've got time?
vocal shard
I have tons of time. I just don't really want to try it anymore since I don't know how I'll get it to work
on mobile... Can't check mine..
neon flume
Have you seen Tupper's tutorial on importing an avatar yet? It's pretty comprehensive.
@vocal shard 242 pages with 6027 results
neon flume
I gotta spend more time chatting here, that's how you get veteran right? 🙃
split vortex
Do any of yall use a psvr for vrc?
split vortex
I was thinking about grabbing one black friday since theyre gonna be hella cheap
And I only have a 970 so the 1080p resolution would be easier
vocal shard
Are you planning on playing psvr games too? Or just PC?
split vortex
I have a playstation as well
vocal shard
Ok, cool
split vortex
I just dont know how well a 970 would handle an oculus
vocal shard
970 is minimum spec
neon flume
That's the desktop variety of 970 right? It should probably be okay but not great.
vocal shard
It will work
split vortex
Yeah but I just dont wanna be stuttering all over the place
Like I tried the wmr earlier this year and had to return it cause of the 1440p resolution
Could barely get 40-60
neon flume
I believe you can subsample, I forget if that option is in the steam VR settings or somewhere else.
vocal shard
In vrchat, that's normal framerate...
vocal shard
Nice thing about the rift is the asw to help with frame drops
neon flume
Oh yeah, I generally hover between 45 fps and 20fps in populated rooms and I have a gtx 1060 6gb and an i5 6600k @4.3ghz.
split vortex
So I was thinking about psvr and maybe a kinect eventually for hips and legs
But I don't know if there's good software for the ps wands
I only know that the headset has software
vocal shard
Tbh... The psvr will probably run worse than a rift
Because it will need to run through Trinus.. and all the hoops to get it to work
Compared to a native running rift
split vortex
True
neon flume
Some Salty Kid, do you mean you're finding it slow to load into worlds? Try restarting the game, I've noticed that will usually fix slow loading worlds.
Might be a temporary network issue.
- the rift would have ASW which drastically helps to compensate for low framerates.
vocal shard
then again... I ran vrchat wmr on a 1050 laptop, where as a rift won't even run on that
Rift asw is nicer than wmr downscaling tho
neon flume
All the headsets have some kind of frame interpolation right?
Well, except maybe psvr, no idea what it does.
vocal shard
Yeah, but wmr has that mode where it cuts the resolution and caps at 60hz... But it looks not that nice
Rift with asw on looks better than wmr in low mode
compact river
mixed can be run on a 840mobile if in low mode
neon flume
Hmm dynamic resolution changing doesn't sound like too bad of a solution. The rift is kind of capped at 45fps when using ASW.
Power settings can help if you're on battery mode on a laptop, I've heard that'll underclock on some laptops (I don't have a laptop so I can't confirm). Just set it onto whatever the highest setting is be it high performance or otherwise.
Unless you are on battery power of course.
vocal shard
Is avatar uploading broken right now?
compact river
just uploaded one like an hour ago