Ive been hearing rumors about that new client
#vrchat-general-2
floral minnow
Anyone know the name of the world that people could build a nikei by choosing body parts?
"custom avatar"
finite kraken
The fuck is this muffin shit
How dare you open your dried up prune mouth towards a all mighty cupcake
wise surge
you know they're gonna be shipped by the end of the season
vocal shard
lol
finite kraken
You wanna know how people eat a cupcake they start from the top lick the icing then munch down on the cake center
Wanna know how they eat a muffin? They take a bite of the top taste bread then throw it away
Got nothing on me dawg
exotic maple
i hope i get cancer and die
vocal shard
...
raven silo
never wish for that
vocal shard
Oh, hello Jazneo
Hello , does anybody know how long will I need to stay in the game to post my avatar ?
I think is 8 hours or around that
Lemme check
Thanks
If it's only 8h it's nice
I played 6
It's not based on time, so the wait can vary greatly. Some are over 30 hours without the ability to upload
Bruh
Make friend and explore world's can make it go faster
On one of my accounts, I was able to get it in 4 hours... So each case is different
Thank you so much
finite kraken
I hope I get cancer so I can have faith in surviving then dying slowly loosing all the traits that make me human but turning into a raisin that throwing away my moment just to live a few more days just to suffer
queen mango
finite kraken
Is the dev team in VRchat low in funds?
vocal shard
@finite kraken I saw last year HTC investigated 4million $ in VRchat
rough flax
Investigated?
vocal shard
Lol
vocal shard
Logic 
finite kraken
Hmmm
Well that is how getting a GF works
You spend 4 million on dates and movies and etc to see if she is worth spending more on with a marriage
meager solstice
Perfect timing I guess
neon flume
This game has probably sold a ton of headsets and trackers. I don't know if it's $4 million worth of headsets but it certainly has given a large group of people a reason to spend time in VR.
safe prism
more than 4m invested
btw
vrchat's had two rounds made public, both had HTC in the millions, just the second had 4 of those millions. :D
steep laurel
Hello!
So, my pollys are above 20k. I added an AWP to my already fine avatar and it's too much.
How would I reduce that?
vocal shard
You need to decimate the model in something like blender
neon flume
if you haven't watched this already Tupper made a great tutorial a while back on the whole process.
https://youtu.be/7P0ljQ6hU0A?t=2223
true sky
take snapshot and report it to moderation@vrchat.com with the blueprint id of the avatar
if the avatar is private, they will get the 1 month @vocal shard 😉
vocal shard
What if it's public but not on any public world?
true sky
can still report them just let them know its not in a world
vocal shard
I think they might have remotely crashed me too, wtf
vocal shard
Forced crashed our avatars...
Also the crash log didn't pop up for us
He crashed the server
true sky
Just report him to moderation@vrchat.com with evidence
everyone else will say the same thing
vocal shard
what the hell happened to them they were fine but now they just make your body to whatever was attached to them have a dance party on the moon ever since that update happened
Everytime I look at this chat someone is being told to video record their issue 🙃
Let's just put a big fat disclaimer on the loading screen that says "If you need to report a problem, go download Bandicam or something smh idfk"
recording my problem isnt really gonna help fix it persay. its a specfic issue. capsule colliders are invisible. however before update they were fine. this update caused them to bug out. so if i have them attached to a body part they will skyrocket to the moon and fling around the whole map
rigid crescent
ye theyre broke
safe prism
what are you using it for
vocal shard
collision on my clothes so they dont clip though as much
or like the sleeves on sweaters that are too long
or the weapons of a few characters i have
safe prism
for clothes collision, set them to trigger and they don't actually collide with colliders, just cloth
safe prism
they don't if they don't collide
vocal shard
ok so i turned on the mesh for the collider
and i noticed
when i turned them on they shoot upwards
glass yacht
I has question ^^, Is there any way to make my avatar be able to use their fingers in vr but not have the legs have ik? my cows hind legs deform weirdly if the lower ik is on because shes a quad
half elk
@glass yacht have extra bones for the legs with nothing connected to them
vocal shard
god they better fix this next update or tell us how to fix it cause this is annoying
i cant figure out how to fix it
vocal shard
anyone completed trial of the golden poo
vocal shard
how is that a thing?!?!?!
static sable
backend still broken
(the world)
the part with the paintings can't be completed because you fall straight down for some reason
umbral oracle
ya it's not too long. golden poo is mostly a lot of item hunting. what do you mean fall straight down?
like when you clicked on the paintings?
vocal shard
i got passed that part
umbral oracle
the dice part was hard
vocal shard
the 1, 2 ,3 blocks is what im stuck on
neat blade
sage current
I blocked someone and this person kicked me out of the world after this. Is this a reason to kick someone?
dire palm
well if his the room owner he could do what he want
sleek ivy
^
vocal shard
I wouldn't kick someone for that, even if they blocked me, unless they were being toxic beforehand or trying to block me in order to avoid being kicked themselves (like an idiot) or something
Thats a bit childish
Then again its VRChat, most of the population isn't exactly.. Mature.. 
spice cedar
hahaha
meager solstice
I mean, is it wrong to kick someone like that “more than likely”, doesn’t really matter? No
spice cedar
actually ^
umbral reef
But most humans are so 
spice cedar
but what if they aren't actually dumb they just surpass our level of intellect
ever thought of it that way
umbral reef
Wont deny that im hella uneducated on plenty of topics
But im fully confident to say i most of the time know what im saying- Might be that my social norms and ethics are not the same as others... But even then
quartz basin
Go to every public world and find out that the majority of people there are below the age of 16.
spice cedar
hahaha
median basalt
I've definitely kicked a guy for blocking me. I think that was only one time though
At some point it turns very disruptive because you'll have people talking over each other without knowing
spice cedar
that's a valid reason I guess
I haven't really felt the urge to block anyone yet so I can't really tell
median basalt
We even had the same guy ask us all to play "pass the grenade" with us lmao
He had half the room blocked, I told the two to go have fun on their own
queen mango
I can tell that being blocked, isn't fun
median basalt
How the fuck do you expect to play a game when you're a sensitive baby who blocks everyone and therefore can't see half the players
I have been blocked by very few people (probably only 10), my avatars are not eye-hurting and I am normally not a disruptive person in the least
I have blocked plenty of people though, for all kinds of reasons.
Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying blocking people makes you a "sensitive baby".
Friend of mine has pretty loud and spammy avatars, he has been blocked by hundreds
twin jacinth
People are too sensetive and fast to assume things in this game
I had an avatar bug that made this white box and spasmed out but no one told me about they just blocked me or said ''its weird'' and no more
got blocked by 14 people becasue of this, new update makes you see these white boxes on avatars because of the block features
got a temp fix now though.
queen mango
Oof. Has he learned his lesson yet?
median basalt
I don't know, and I don't really care
Most irritating part is that he's always glued to one of my other friends
I already told him I won't be joining on him anymore because of that, there's no use
spice cedar
that's rather unfortunate
twin jacinth
I just block avatars/mute
i rarely block someone because of exactly that you can't see them and that makes things just weird
median basalt
I'm glad you can block individual avatars now
I always hated blocking entire people over their avatars
twin jacinth
Have you asked him to change the avatar or said that you don't like how he is loud and stuff?
may be a bit hard to say it but probably the best way to go about it?
quartz basin
Never max out your sound setting. Always have it at 50%
queen mango
I heard
twin jacinth
I have it at 25-50%
median basalt
I have mine at 100% usually
queen mango
I never liked having people block me... Hurts me quite a lot, emotionally.
Especially, friends.
umbral reef
I think you need to get an different definition for friends and people you know...
queen mango
Acquaintances, yes?
spice cedar
I wish they added a volume bar to everybody kinda like discord so you could turn down the loud people and stuff without having to turn down everyone else
that be great actually
twin jacinth
It's in the canny and it's planned
https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/adjust-volume-of-individuals
spice cedar
hell ye
queen mango
Nice
spice cedar
that will help a lot
ivory folio
Can't wait for that to be put in the game in a years time 👍
gleaming patio
has anyone ever tried out of Ryzen game mode improves vrchat?
(it turns off half the cores (8 to 4 on 2700x) and boosts the remaining cores)
rough flax
Theoretically it should be faster since vrchat only uses "1 core" and "25%" of your CPU. But, that's not what I see in task manager
umbral reef
It should technically boost stuff for this game yea but ^
rough pulsar
@gleaming patio Might be a bit out of the way of what you're interested in, but when I get the time I'm gonna be testing vrchat (in VR) on a Ryzen Threadripper 1950x. I don't know if they also have the Game Mode feature but If it does I should probably try that.
rough pulsar
From what I understand of Ryzen chips and how vrchat works, game mode should give you an extra bit of performance with it.
Downside is it reduces your ability to have other things running in the background due to less available cores.
rough flax
Maybe I should disable 2 of my cores and overclock the other 2 to 5ghz 
k
tacit plank
If you want your CPU to die so badly just send it to me instead k thnx
iron fjord
Hello gamers
kindred briar
@rough flax vrchat uses 4 cores disabling 2 will make it bottleneck even withba higher clockspeed
quartz basin
"VRchat uses 8 cores! 6 of it intensly and 2 for audio! Why would you need more than 4 cores for VRchat? 2 should be totally fine to run it!"
quartz basin
I don't know. The core count varies from post to post.
thorny totem
Hi there, been a long time ;) . Seems the team has been really busy, congratz with the update, seems good
vocal shard
Hey Kane!
^^
thorny totem
hey Jamie :)
floral aspen
long time no see Kane
vocal shard
it was a really full of drama... So maybe best that you missed it
Lol
thorny totem
eheh :D i could easily imagine
vocal shard
Someone figured out how to play the open beta on live servers... So that spread like wildfire, and people started going crazy with assumptions based on the beta, and it got out of hand
Back to normal now though. Lol
thorny totem
lol wow how did he managed that?
vocal shard
It was just the launch options for the photon servers. But they removed that after
thorny totem
I see :), i suppose there is some friction with the rating system?
tacit plank
Bring back vet~
vocal shard
Lol
thorny totem
meh it's will eventually =D
vocal shard
There used to be an extra rank for veterans, but they removed that... So there's cannys and things to bring it back
Some are upset they didn't get trusted ranks... Stuff like that
tacit plank
Yeah, people still bitch after vet is gone
vocal shard
Was an interesting month
still lark
As a veteran user I don't see what everyone is complaining about!!!
tacit plank
They will never be happy either way, so just let the people who like vet have it
thorny totem
I missed all that dang :D
tacit plank
It happened recently though
thorny totem
oh ok :)
the storm will pass as it always did i suppose, the team did a great job anyway :)
vocal shard
Yeah. We asked for more ability to block parts of avatars, and they did deliver
tacit plank
Yeah
thorny totem
i've tested it few minutes ago, it's a god sent option indeed
vocal shard
Personally... I don't think the ranks should be displayed above everyone's heads... I think some are using it to divide... I'd rather see the ranks just in our social menu so first impressions aren't affected by the visible rank over the playsr... But that's just me
I'm good with everything else about the system tho
thorny totem
I think those looking for division will always found a way, not sure a color or a title change that, some will discriminate if your avatar is not fancy enough, your English not being perfect and so on, like in real life in a sense
vocal shard
Yeah... But just like, new players are obvious in a room now because of the rank, so there's been cases where they join, and get kicked because of their rank. Or trusteds getting singled out and people trying to freind them to attempt to boost their own rank... I don't think people realize it, but it does change the way some people act
I already made a video on my options based on seeing this system... So I'll stop there
Devs did good tho
thorny totem
Yeah i understand how it could be exploited by some =)
but as i said haven't had the time to test it fully for now, i may be more opinionated when fully explored/tested
thorny totem
Hey Svel, thanks :)
cerulean sonnet
People are very kick happy period. Rank is only a bullet point on a long list of stupid reasons vain players will kick someone. There seems to be a bad outbreak of a Headupassiea in the community. That's the problem with a social game though. People tend to have a limit on people they choose to hang around. Once that limit is hit, a circle is formed, and everyone outside of it is seldomly let in.
vocal shard
Hey guys can anyone help?
cerulean sonnet
Whatcha got Kell
vocal shard
So I have a Nvidia GTX 1050ti and I know it requires 970 of the same brand. The thing is that whenever I go into worlds it kicks me out like not even a second later. I do have 20mbps (bad area) but the thing is my friend who has 10mbps and the same graphics card can run it fine without hiccups.
If you guys need more info let me know!
cerulean sonnet
Game crash or kicks you out of the world?
ivory folio
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
cerulean sonnet
^this
vocal shard
I actually had tried that but it didn't help. I also tried that tip someone gave in putting a certain thing in properties
I mean I can try again but yea
thorny totem
You right Mystery about the social game effect. Oh cleancache is still a thing =D
do you use wifi Kelly?
vocal shard
I'm connected directly to my router
thorny totem
ok
vocal shard
Someone was saying maybe its with the router port or something to that degree. idk
in settings*
median basalt
I'm neutral on the concept of the trust system but I don't like its current implementation
Don't like the default "shield" settings and don't like nameplates being colored for instant identification
thorny totem
i don't think so, unless you're actively blocking some port or protocol like Ping? could be, Kelly
vocal shard
Yea that makes sense. I mean I even tried turning off my anti virus & firewall
rough flax
Regardless, the game only uses 25% of my CPU from what they said and only 1 core. It wouldn't only use 25% and split it up between the cores, it would use 100% of 1 core.
cerulean sonnet
I really think the smartest thing the <@&378256373701410817>s could do is rename this game from VRChat to something less social, give us a little more freedom with creation, and compete with Garry's Mod 2. If they get the jump on it now, they have a chance of beating it, but other developers are starting to catch on, and I'm almost certain if a new VR sandbox game with less restrictions came out, VRChat would see a significant drop off. All of the other creators I talk to agreed. This game was at it's best when we found out you could put chairs on models. By the end of the week, they were gone because a very small amount of people were using them incorrectly.
vocal shard
They've stated that it doesn't use just one core... That was a rumour that keeps getting spread
modern sand
Please don't ping us for non emergencies
median basalt
I think they're handling the social aspect just fine
thorny totem
oh a Ruuubick :) don't make him angry please :P
median basalt
They should also cater to developers a little more IMO. That's already on the way with Udon for worlds, but tbh I wish they did more for avatars
Most of the game does use one core
The laggy stuff is basically all on the same core
@vocal shard
safe prism
100% of 1 core in a 4 core system is 100/400 or 1/4 which is 25%
median basalt
Or thread or whatever you wanna call it
thorny totem
nothing in your logs Kelly?
safe prism
what is math
cerulean sonnet
@thorny totem not angry. I understand why he's saying that.
thorny totem
i do too :)
vocal shard
I'm gonna check
thorny totem
ok
vocal shard
I found output log
thorny totem
something suspicious in it?
vocal shard
So far no
I mean if you want I can send you the output in dm because I usually miss something
thorny totem
you need to have a fresh ouptput though, gather the logs after the problem occurs without closing the game if possible
vocal shard
Ah okay. will do
So far I was in a room w/ 12 people and didnt get kicked out so its progress
west gyro
I heard a rumour that VRChat is updating its unity version. This true?
vocal shard
I'll try and get the fresh output though
thorny totem
Kelly, let's see how it goes then could simply be a temporary connection issue ISP/Router
vocal shard
Yea true. I mean my internet aint the best either
the most I'm getting rn is "vr chat not responding" when loading worlds, but then it goes into one
@west gyro it's likely and would make sense for them to be doing that, but without official word on the matter, it's still just a rumour
west gyro
Yeah. I thought I missed an announcement or an heads up. Let's see what happens.
vocal shard
If they are, they would probably keep it a bit secret anyway, and announce it when it's close to release
thorny totem
@vocal shard hmmm could also be an exploit, reported few minutes ago on reddit, no idea if true yet though
vocal shard
Ah I see. Well if it happens again I'll find the new output file to send through Dm or something
So far so good
thorny totem
sure, you could also send it directly to the Vrchat support email ;)
vocal shard
oh yeah that too 😃
floral aspen
Something as big as a unity update would be in the #announcements channel
vocal shard
One of the weird errors I found in output was
2018.10.24 10:38:25 Error - SteamNetworkingAPI: Lost connection to steam client, destroying
besides other errors*
If anyone needs me @ or dm me. going out
ruby burrow
Theoretically they kind of have to update their Unity version sooner or later, since the currently used version will be losing official support from Unity soon.
Which is also part of why doing stuff like removing legacy animations was vital regardless of the security issue, since I've heard those don't even exist in newer versions of Unity, and would thus eventually get wiped rather than merely disabled.
tidal aspen
If they ever upgrade I hope they upgrade to 2018.3 so we get that new vfx graph
languid beacon
I like the colored nameplates and I’m fine with default settings but I think sounds and shaders are backwards. Give shaders to known. Reserve sounds for trusted.
indigo fern
custom colored nameplates when? ;-;
maiden hound
Rank colours
languid beacon
Many older anime uploads did not have “toon” in their shader name so fall back to standard sadly
delicate perch
has anyone heard of something called play space mover?
maiden hound
I have it
languid beacon
Yup. Have it
delicate perch
what is it?
languid beacon
It lets you grab the world and move it around, other people see it as you climbing/flying from their perspective
delicate perch
ah
that might be usefull
my friend said it messes with rigid body things like world particles tho
languid beacon
It tends to require either full body tracking or otherwise make SteamVR think you have trackers
vocal shard
It works best with full body though, otherwise your legs won't follow
languid beacon
Yes it does mess with ridged bodies can’t have both
vocal shard
You can use it without fbt to grab things from the floor though..
languid beacon
You can emulate trackers with software just to activate fbt mode tho
languid beacon
I mean you won’t actually have feet they’ll just stand there
But you can then fly around with playspace mover
vocal shard
The feet stay in place ... So if you crouch, they go through the floor with the fake trackers
delicate perch
ive tired FBT with the Kinect, it kinda works, but my arms are way to short and everything is just kinda off
languid beacon
Kinect is baaaad
delicate perch
well i have the Rift
ruby needle
kinect fbt isn't really a great thing for normal playing anyway 
finite kraken
So what I remember last night that I got the new sdk because they wouldn’t let me use my old one.. so when I delete the folder and import it... it has that cashe error
delicate perch
yeah but i would have to buy 2 light houses at 240USD
delicate perch
PLUS the 3 trackers at 100 each
languid beacon
I Rift + touch and 3 oculus sensors for 360 tracking, then 2 vive base stations and then 3 vive trackers on hips and feet for lower body tracking
finite kraken
Rift is trash
vocal shard
well, if you want proper FBT then yeah
languid beacon
It’s nice I love it
vocal shard
nice arguments, Cupcake.
delicate perch
@finite kraken Your oppinion is note and ignored.
languid beacon
I prefer rift at the moment, at least for VRChat. Touch controllers are objectively better and more immersive than the vive wands. That will change eventually of course with knuckles coming
grim canopy
trying to make a video work and im stuck and cant figure it out
who here remembers Disney Wishes?????
Well I'm Bringing it back with all... DIsney Wishes 2.0
More Relistic and Bigger
If Anyone wants to help me fix the video problem that would be Great!!!!!
Messege My Discord If you want to try and solve the video problem, I'll send a copy of the Unity File For WHo ever is good with Video Playing in world!!! Thanks David
delicate perch
so that would be about 600USD for FBT, thats about how much i payed for the Rift anf Touch cotrollers
finite kraken
Vive is far superior
languid beacon
X suxorz I like Y
delicate perch
@finite kraken Your oppinion is noted and ignored.
finite kraken
@delicate perch Max the grown ups are taking
delicate perch
@finite kraken Your oppinion is noted and ignored.
vocal shard
then you need to get out cupcake.
Again... It's all preference. Some prefer the other
finite kraken
Nice argument
languid beacon
You remind me of a 2nd grade console war fight seriously now cupcake
vocal shard
just block him
languid beacon
This is not the place for fanboyism
finite kraken
Xbox is better
delicate perch
I guess the thing is, atm there is only like 3 games that use FBT, i do play VRC a lot, but if the tracking is the same from the Kinect and the Vive Trackers, then i would have to completly redo my rigging
safe yacht
Okay so, I just came across one of hte new Halloween worlds. But its a nazi death camp, with burning crematorium furnaces, decorated with pumpkins. Why oh fucking why would you let that world through, VRChat?
delicate perch
cause my arms on VRC are too short compaired to RL and i have to make my hands giant to match
finite kraken
Vrc is a meme itself everyone I talk to about it that doesn’t know what VRchat is.. only knows it for the knuckles
delicate perch
@finite kraken Your oppinion is noted and ignored.
vocal shard
@delicate perch did you try the kung FBT fix?
delicate perch
kung?
delicate perch
is that the rig fix thing where you invert the hip bone?
vocal shard
not only that
glossy wharf
No its adjusting the proportions
vocal shard
you change the proprtions too
delicate perch
and leg bones?
vocal shard
glossy wharf
and the fbt neck fix
vocal shard
Change legs proportions
glossy wharf
jamie browsing on internet explorer 9
delicate perch
tbh i do front facing, so the kinect is kinda perfect for me
vocal shard
if you want a proper experience with FBT, you should definitely try this
finite kraken
My daddy owns blizzard he will kiss your ass!
vocal shard
It wasn't mee
languid beacon
Yeah fbt is expensive especially hybrid full body and yes imho VRChat is the only game worth using it for; so you have to be really into it. But I am averaging like 35~45 hours a week lately for the last 4 months. I have no problem buying some additional hardware to enjoy myself more and make it a tad more immersive
languid beacon
Not everyone is obsessed tho so it’s not for everyone. Totally worth it to me though
Helps that I have like 6 irl friends who hang out every night
grim canopy
hey jamie
vocal shard
Hey David ^^
grim canopy
you on vrchat
stray jay
It's nice to see people wholeheartedly putting themselves into any one thing. Be it WoW, text RP sites, VRChat or other stuff.
vocal shard
I'm at work right now
grim canopy
ok
vocal shard
Won't be on till much later
grim canopy
messege me when you get on
ruby needle
did you kill all your firends?
ruby needle
how gruesome 
vocal shard
Like I held onto the trigger button on accident
Syrmor was there too, that youtuber dude
opaque hawk
I once walked in front of the gun when they tried to kill the murder and I died
queen mango
Oof.
vocal shard
Ikr
i fucking hate when i'm on stream
especially when i don't even know it and discover it later
finite kraken
Remember that thing people use to say that plants grow faster to classic music then metal... I think it doesn’t mater just the sound vibration it gives off
rough pulsar
It would be nice if vrchat could see if OBS or something else is running and change the user's nametag in someway to indicate streaming is happening.
ruby needle
not reliable at all
opaque hawk
When you see your corpse on a VRChat funniest moments compilation
rough pulsar
I know, but better than nothing.
ruby needle
i dont think so
opaque hawk
True story actually happened to me
rough pulsar
And it would reduce incidents where conversations that are expected to be ephemeral wind up being recorded without the involved parties knoweldge.
Which has happened.
ruby needle
no need to oberve the process list and such.
a streamer mode/status you can set ofc. but system observation to "find it" while it isnt anywhere close to reliable isnt the way to go imo
opaque hawk
It would be helpful but I’m sure some users would abuse the honor system
rough pulsar
Exactly. There's a number of streamers who have stream avatars that have some indicator over them that says they're streaming/recording. They're not the problem and are also the ones a manual toggle would benefit.
ruby needle
a integrated option is more likely to be used as it doesnt require extra work so i'd propalby raise the quote
people love showing off that they are streamers
wether its advertisement or ego improvement 
safe prism
why not both
ruby needle
because there is a or
opaque hawk
It’s usually because Twitch is terrible at promoting their streamers
opaque hawk
Twitch has a massive discoverability problem
ruby needle
it's more because people love to show off
wether its twitch, youtube, or what ever
(and well, twitch is over saturated in most places 
)
umbral reef
It is really more that most people dont have anything worth showing on there stream
There personalities are fairly bland- They are not amazing (not just good, i mean amazing) at the games or well looking/well known by default
There are plenty of streamers that got insane shootouts and viewer boosts but fell back to an smaller user count before those booms because of well... there content was nothing special
And just slapping an "I am live at X" wont change that...
queen mango
Seems to be so. They don't seem to have an interest in whatever details the game has too, nor do they do the usual gamer stuff like hoarding items ICE
ruby needle
well, streaming isnt really about beeing amazing but having fun at doing it.
its fine to stream even if you suck at what ever game you play.
the important thing is that you stream because you fun with that, and not because you want to make money or become famous.
umbral reef
Still- Dont expect to be the next big streamer if you dont have anything special to show
Same goes for anything really...
subtle prawn
Thank you to those that made that Back to the Future ride world. It was a great nostalgia trip to my little self 
opaque hawk
I heard about that world, I better check it out
ruby burrow
A friend of mine streams purely to help record fun moments, sort of like building a photo album, and also so that other friends can see what we've been up to whilst they couldn't get on.
Very small, very casual. No agenda to entertain or seek "content", etc.
Once when someone came over and started talking about some personal drama, unknowing that it'd get streamed, my friend quickly explained he was, and then left the area to avoid broadcasting it.
neon flume
I use OBS sometimes as a kind of journal of what I’ve done in VRC. It’s just local and I like being able to look back on where I met people, kind of like a better version of a photo album. It’s also compressed to hell so an hour only takes a gig. I turn it off or let people know if we start getting into conversation or if we go into a private/friends+ world.
Screenshots used to fill that purpose for me but my steam VR screenshot shortcut no longer works on my touch controllers. I don’t know what happened but I suspect it’s a part of their new binding system.
little wave
I noticed that the Steam screenshot keybind changed from the right trigger to the left trigger on touch controllers
neon flume
oh huh I'll have to try that out
vocal shard
wtf is wrong with vrchat!
it was always on the left for me
it keeps lagging! all i want is to find the stupid characters from bnha to change into!
north axle
It's been lagging for about 10 hours for me.
vocal shard
its pissing ne off
i played today and had no issues personally
wtf!it froze!
i cant search for anything
then wait a few hours to play since it's obviously not working currently 
you have proof ?
yeah you should.
if you want to use it as proof
the video needs to be unlisted on youtube
check #moderation-reports for more info
night lark
can somebody tell me please
vocal shard
I honestly didn't know vrchat discord is actually one of the largest discord servers lol
rough pulsar
We're almost at 50k users (not online, or active, but part of this discord)
raw lagoon
!real
queen mango
Yet, only a few of us actively chat here
warm turtle
You could say a lot of us moved on into their separate vrchat discord groups 👀 or found enough friends.
Or I guess a lot of people are lurkers as usual
vocal shard
a lot do lurk, yeah
subtle prawn
Do an inactive purge then see how much 😏
raven mango
you fokin wot m8
craggy hull
!lurking
indigo fern
A lot also only joined just because the sdk led them here
teal turtle
Guilty
long venture
Vrchat is actually how I started using discord 
ocean bramble
Same
umbral reef
Wait what did you use before then? Skype to talk with friends or TS?
true sky
I moved to discord after Skype was becoming annoying with random FR and malicious links
tranquil perch
i moved to discord when a few friends started using it over standard steam voice chat and it kind of snowballed from there
dawn pecan
I hated Skype. Discord was a godsent
I don't agree entirely with their poliies, but it's still a 9/10
vocal shard
💤
queen mango
VRChat... That was the game that got me to use Discord
Remembered it back when I used to be with my VRChat buddies from a few months ago.
kindred sand
yays an elire pie
north axle
Fun fact: someone on the VRChat team knows someone important from Discord very well.
Theory: it was all a conspiracy all along.
inner cape
queen mango
Test---lar holo----t
Uhh... Why?
rocky blaze
you know what would be a neat feature to have, the ability to rotate objects in your hand for desktop
near saffron
Nice edit there. About to say
rocky blaze
yea
but yea, was playing amneisa the dark decent recently and you just hold left click to hold the item and then hold R then move your mouse around to rotate it about
seems simple enough in text but coding it i have no idea haha
near saffron
Good idea tho, maybe put it in request features or the canny, would make Murder games more interesting
vocal shard
they will need to change how the right click works then
i believe it's used to throw objects currently
umbral oracle
hold shift to rotate?
umbral oracle
I meant that as a feature request :-p I didn't realize they allow it with controller, that's weird
vital rune
the controller setup is a bit outdated
since you cant change sensitivity for it and there's no dedicated crouch and prone button and you can't do keyboard gestures
gleaming hill
will vrchat start saving data on the default installation drive rather than c drive in the future it adds up a lot of space on my SSD over time 🤷🏻♀️
tacit plank
My HDD has 1.4TB left to molest, but my main SSD is in the red most of the time
quartz basin
Reported
sonic verge
which one of the mods accepted a world with the whole avatar section full of private avatars into a public one?
quartz basin
Sounds like communism to me. Those are not your avatars anymore. They belong to everyone!
near saffron
Our assets
median basalt
Reviewers aren't exactly consistent
sonic verge
i was in a PUBLIC avatar world, but all the avatars in it are made PRIVATE so no one could pick it up
near saffron
Quality world 👌
inner cape
Maybe the avatars were meant for specific people
glossy wharf
so?
sonic verge
and that person is the world creator
tacit plank
Maybe it wasn't intentional to upload them as private
glossy wharf
its still an avatar world
just not for you
¯_(ツ)_/¯
maybe they wanna chill with their friends in there and have a place for their avatars at the same time
quartz basin
That's the problem? Why are you getting mad that people make their avatars private?
glossy wharf
Exactly
they just dont want you to use their avatars so whats the matter
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tacit plank
Well, the avatar world section is for people to choose avatars, so it's listed wrong
quartz basin
Avatar World is Avatar World
glossy wharf
and objectively that map has avatars
quartz basin
Maybe theer's a public avatar somewhere hidden.
tacit plank
The world should still be allowed if it has some other useful things, but if it's just avatars then it should be rejected as it has no real value to visitors
glossy wharf
You dont even know what else was in the world
tacit plank
No, avatar worlds are for visitors to choose avatars from. From what you're saying, adding avatars as objects rather than pedestals would still be fine
glossy wharf
It is
tacit plank
Which is why I wrote "But if" in front of the second part
glossy wharf
Its an avatar showcase map in that case
still an avatar world
cause it has avatars in it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Just because its an avatar world doesnt mean that the avatars need to be publicly available
tacit plank
By the definition of the words, yes. But the VRChat definition, no
quartz basin
Where's the VRchat definition listed?
tacit plank
A calculator is tecnically a computer, but we don't call them that
median basalt
@glossy wharf worlds are normally denied for having mostly private pedestals
tacit plank
It does make sense
median basalt
It's usually a mistake
glossy wharf
i mean it depends rokk
if there is lots of other stuff on the map i highly doubt
they would deny
tacit plank
We name things based on an understanding of them, not on the literal definition of every word they're made up of
median basalt
Also since pedestals are either owner only or for literally everyone, having a public world with just private pedestals makes no sense
glossy wharf
It does
quartz basin
So if a world has 10 private avatars and one public avatar is hidden somewhere where the player can reach it but has to look around quite a bit. Should such a world be considered an Avatar Worldß
median basalt
There's one way to settle this
quartz basin
Yu-Gi-Oh Battle!
median basalt
@sonic verge said that it was an avatar world
As in, categorized under "Avatar Worlds"
sonic verge
do i really need to take screenshots of what the world i was in actually look like?
median basalt
If an avatar world only has private pedestals, it's not an avatar world.
tacit plank
By your logic, white people don't exist, because they're not white but some pale yellowish color
quartz basin
Well, yeah? You accused it of being faulty. Now the burden of proof lies with you.
median basalt
If a world only has private pedestals, it should be considered as having no pedestals. That means no categorization as avatar world.
The world reviewers are very inconsistent
There's worlds with broken water shaders that get approved
Or lag free worlds after the ban of the term "lag-free"
Or in this case, avatar worlds with no accessible avatars.
quartz basin
They banned the term lag-free?
median basalt
Yes.
umbral reef
We need a review of reviewers 
median basalt
They never outright said they did, but they did.
Lag-free box has been asked to rename itself too
And new worlds are not being approved if they contain the term lag free (unless the reviewer is lacking as I mentioned earlier)
umbral reef
The worlds most often dont ADD lagg but they also dont reduce it what the term laggfree suggests really...
quartz basin
They probably banned the term lag-free because the game will never be.
umbral reef
As most normal worlds are reallly close to lagg free or just as laggfre
median basalt
Banning the term lag-free is good, but they should be honest about it
Should just say "this term isn't allowed", not say "world is not low lag"
quartz basin
"highly-optimized" is a better option?
glossy wharf
But how is lag free box not low lag 🤔
umbral reef
Any would should be properly optimized before they get accepted 👏
glossy wharf
Like its literally 6 walls and a mirror toggle
median basalt
It's more recently
umbral reef
So world owners should not even have to lure users like that
median basalt
Either way reviewers need to get off their ass IMO
umbral reef
@glossy wharf Pretty sure having an X in the middle that makes it so not all avatars shown when you turn around would help even
But meanwhile- i got no idea how VRC renders things or unity at all really
median basalt
They had to revamp the public world request form because reviewers weren't categorizing avatar worlds as such.
Worlds are sometimes tested only on desktop.
Worlds are inconsistently tested and reviewed as I explained earlier
It seems there are some reviewers that are very thorough and give proper feedback, others do not
Before the form revamp I had to wait for specific dates to update and submit my world
glossy wharf
true
vrc worlds feels like the steam store atm
flooded with low effort garbage
unoptimized
ugh
umbral reef
Steam account lottery!
quartz basin
I mostly go to worlds who are max 10MB since late at night the server just refuses me any bandwith and I download 1MB per 2 minutes.
vocal shard
wicked zodiac
Fly i have bad memmorys from flying in vrchat ...
Never goeten so motion sick before i tryd that cloud thingy in the dragonball world whit the big green eastern dragon in XD i crawld over to hug one of the plar in my room for least 30 min beging for the world stop to spin around,
tacit plank
Worlds rarely lag very much
Worlds often get the blame when bad avatars are lagging people in it
quartz basin
Well, my caffeinated little cup. If you put alot of unwanted crap into a world, it will lag.
So just make tons of empty boxes and do what you're supposed to do in this game.
Chat
sonic verge
that really depends most of the time
tacit plank
You can have a lot of stuff in just 10 or 20 MB, and that much texturing is nothing to a GPU
opaque hawk
Worlds can definitely cause lag.
glossy wharf
and you tell me its avatars?
maps like gaia night and so on dont have that effect, cause old world testing was a lot more strict
opaque hawk
Avatars can definitely cause lag too.
tacit plank
Then your computer sucks
Or there's a mirror in there, I guess. Mirrors just do that
broken sail
is it just me or is vrc a bit sluggish today? I only get 45 fps on most worlds.
even on lagfree worlds and alone it drops to 80...
tacit plank
If your FPS varies from day to day, it's absolutely on your end
You might have a program open which is using your CPU or something
broken sail
ok. maybe a stupid update or something like that...
cpu at 30% and gpu at 16% still 45 fps???
tacit plank
No announcements in a while, and I don't think they have done minor fixes either.
And VRChat doesn't multithread well, you likely have a single core running 100%
broken sail
nothing else is open
rough pulsar
I dunno, I've been having lower than usual framerate lately.
broken sail
its an i7 and as i wrote it lags even on worlds with nothing but a solid color background...
tacit plank
Maybe steamVR changed something?
rough pulsar
Also after a while the update rate seems to drop and avatar motion gets choppy and laggy.
broken sail
thats what I thought...
steam update...
it gets worse if i open the menu or look at lots of geometry.
opaque hawk
Could be network?
rough pulsar
IDK about you but I'm on the steamvr beta
broken sail
network at 1%
tacit plank
I wonder how much debugging you can do before the game bans you
opaque hawk
Oh I did see a steam vr update was being pushed today
broken sail
that might be it.
tacit plank
Because sometimes it would be interesting to know just what the 20GB of memory is used for
broken sail
cause in desktop i get 90 steady in 4k.
opaque hawk
20gb, used for one prog rock song
Jk
tacit plank
In Japan town I have a memory leak, but I don't know what it contains
It seems to be worse if I don't have the game in focus
vivid pecan
question, why can you only favorite 3 avatars ingame?
vocal shard
because that's the limit that the devs decided on
vivid pecan
but why
there are hacks that can make you able to favorite as many as you want
without affecting anything i think
vocal shard
But that's just what they decided on
Could be just a way to test the system, maybe they'll add more later, maybe it's at a limit to encourage making your own avatar. It's still much more than it used to be a few weeks ago
maiden hound
I bet it’s just to test the system, like what Jamie said. To see how it goes and to see if the addition to the game works well
vivid pecan
could be that, but it's a little bit annoying because i dont really have interest in making my own avatars, the limit just makes it annoying
hopefully they will expand it
drowsy summit
vocal shard
why do i have an orange rectangle instead of a green rectangle now
floral aspen
your user rank changed
vocal shard
yay
floral aspen
you've been upgraded to known user
vocal shard
that's good
floral aspen
one step away from trusted
vocal shard
does it do anything else other than turning my rectangle orange tho
if people are using the default safety settings
i believe you can use more stuff
oh good
now they can see my nice shaders
floral aspen
yeah what Svel said
vocal shard
no
floral aspen
nope
vocal shard
that's for trusted
floral aspen
gotta be trusted
karmic talon
Pretty sure shaders are only enabled at purple
floral aspen
your friends can still see your shaders tho
karmic talon
I think you now have the ability to produce noise
vocal shard
!!!
floral aspen
the default safety settings only apply to people who aren't your friend
friends have everything enabled by default
karmic talon
But I haven't really looked at the safety settings so I probably forgot the rest
vocal shard
ah k
karmic talon
Also people can just customize the settings
vocal shard
don't think a lot of people do tho
floral aspen
yeah, most probably leave it on default settings
shadow wagon
meh it wasn't important
covert cargo
any idea why downloading content takes forever? Loading it is near instant and my internet is fine otherwise?
snow wadi
Depends on the content of the world
covert cargo
anything, any world
snow wadi
Does it happen everytime even if it's the same world?
covert cargo
people, the world, all takes me like 30 mins for 80MB
snow wadi
Define "good enough"
covert cargo
30 down last i checked
snow wadi
30mbps?
snow wadi
Have you run a speed test?
covert cargo
... yes that is kinda how i tested it
snow wadi
Also where do you reside?
covert cargo
UK
covert cargo
???
snow wadi
There's an issue with the routing through europe
Even overwatch was having issues
With EU server
covert cargo
oh?
covert cargo
so whatchu sayin is it aint my fault
covert cargo
i doubt it will be any good rn as im ingame
snow wadi
Well not right now but when you can
covert cargo
any idea when it should be fixed tho?
snow wadi
That depends on when the folks responsible for the routing will wake up XD
hoary ridge
When I open vrc I’m just stuck in the loading world
After the logo appears there’s nothing
compact river
no go home button?
hoary ridge
The music plays and everything
It’s just green background lol
Ok now the login panel appears but it’s taking a million years to actually log me in
What is happening
compact river
norm thats what i do and it works
hoary ridge
Now I’m trying to restart
snow wadi
Can't even fire up overwatch
Something ain't right
Huh
I can connect to NA overwatch
Not EU
Uh oh...
vocal shard
overwatch = vrchat 🤔
inner cape
Excuse me, sir/madam/horse/dog, this isn't a topic appropriate for this channel. Move to #general-media .
snow wadi
My bad
As for VRC
There's just the one server right?
Also I am a horse
Thank you very much
vocal shard
this is the official vrchat server yes
inner cape
inner cape
And I guessed right
compact river
just get on other times in the day and you see other people from around the world
vocal shard
hey im new to vrchat but how do you choose an avatar thats not on the default list
go into an avatar world, and choose it]
then favorite it
but how do players get ones that arent on a list
cuz i saw someone have homer simpson
but i cant have that
umbral nova
Upload one yourself
indigo fern
you can favorite a public avatar or upload one
compact river
like favorite avatars can add 3 from worlds or ^
umbral nova
Make a new VRChat account and wait until you have upload privileges.
vocal shard
oh so i cant even upload one of my own
umbral nova
Codes, if you want your own personalized avatar, best bet is to learn Unity and stuff
Uhh
You need a VRChat account not a Steam account
And then you have to wait a bit
vocal shard
im anyways learning unity for school
vocal shard
yea i made a vr account
umbral nova
And you'll likely get notified when you can upload content
indigo fern
hold shift when you hit play on steam, itll bring up a graphics menu
vocal shard
@vocal shard i was in a world last night that had homer, marge, and bart
@vocal shard just go to worlds, in search, type homer
lol ive seen some cool characters
but i cant anyways get one rn
indigo fern
in the worlds tab, just scroll down until you see a list of avatar worlds, there are some interesting ones out there
vocal shard
yea imma check those ones out but ive seen some cools ones in the main home room, like some Halloween rooms
what is "launch in desktop non vr mode"
hexed zodiac
^Exactly what it says
indigo fern
if you dont have vr, thats the normal mode
vocal shard
oh okay, cuz i dont have vr so both these modes will be the same for me
do most players have vr when they play this?
hexed zodiac
i wouldnt recommend launching in vrmode if you dont have vr
no
you will see at least 2 or more players with it in every lobby or so
ish
but there are still some without vr
so i guess ya kinda most players do
but not all
if that helps lol
vocal shard
ok thx
this brings back some memories in playstation home
that was pretty fun
but i dont think you couldve used a mic
@vocal shard i dont have vr either
this is still fun without it
has anyone played this murder game room, im in it rn
im starting to check the world rooms
@vocal shard it is
what is drop portal
indigo fern
it places a portal to the world so people around you can join with you
vocal shard
oh thats cool
candid sphinx
<@&378256373701410817> So my name isnt fit for the competition so how do i change it or do i just contact the email response with a name that i want to use instead?
modern sand
I think you can chose an alias instead 
candid sphinx
So just send the email an alias i want to use instead? 
vocal shard
correct
languid beacon
Alt enter also switches to and from full screen if it’s already running
vocal shard
orly
indigo fern
yea, alt + enter does that in most games
vocal shard
I just wondered if VRChat didn't support fullscreen yet
Even when I watched some clips of other people in VRChat they had their taskbar in the video lol
Now I know
indigo fern
:lul:
umbral nova
Because it's not widespread knowledge
indigo fern
and knowing is half the battle
vocal shard
is it just me or do a lot of russians play vrchat
my first hour of playing and it was mostly russians xD
covert cargo
depends on the time in each timezone
neon flume
Rule of thumb is that the biggest demographic will be from wherever it's evening currently, especially on weekdays. It's definitely not universal but that generally what I've found when I play throughout the day.
ruby burrow
The number of VR players compared to desktop players is also kinda hard to determine really. When I went to visit a public Pug last night, I found 90% desktop. players. When I joined a friends instance on one of my more veteran friends, it was 90% VR players. So there's not really any one place you can go to count them and say that's the ratio.
fervent meadow
Yo i dont pay attebtion to log changes whats the diff veteren a private and pyblic avatar
neon flume
I do wonder what the actual ratio is. I hope I'm sufficiently welcoming and interactive with desktop users so that they also feel comfortable around me. I've noticed that most of the friends who join on me are VR users but I also know a bunch of them were desktop users before and have transitioned to VR because of this game.
rigid crescent
Yeah, it's no secret that VR Users gravitate towards one another, that's just kinda how it is
I don't think it's usually intentional tho
broken sail
Yesterday I was in a public instance of the pug with 17 people and none of them used desktop. But we need even more VR in VRChat. 🤔
tidal aspen
it’s more like people with vr are more invested and thus have more friends that are probably invested and have vr
vocal shard
I think i've given up on vrchat again. its doing the same issue as yesterday 😦
opaque hawk
@fervent meadow if a avatar is public anyone can use it via pedestal
humble yacht
I play VRchat to show off my avatars lol
umbral nova
Honestly I play VRC at this point to socialize
I used to show off a lot but it got boring
I use my avatars to joke around more than anything now.
umbral nova
Kinda same but I talk about something else. I would mention it here but there is a rule against it.
humble yacht
Oofta
umbral nova
lol
humble yacht
I use a 2b avatar sometimes
umbral nova
I mean
You can say you have something from Mario or Zelda or whatever
But you can't discuss how you acquired it basically.
humble yacht
Yeah
I finally nailed my data values for dynamic bones on her so I'm pretty proud of her
humble yacht
unity
umbral nova
I mean I know
But like
What kind of model was it
Was it from PMX or was it something else?
humble yacht
it was an mmd model, yeah
umbral nova
PMX models have way too many bones honestly
umbral nova
To each their own yea
humble yacht
I haven't really tried any SFM ones though... I might.
umbral nova
But they're really unoptimized unless you put in the work to atlas everything.
humble yacht
I pop em in blender, use CATS to fix em then decimate
umbral nova
But do you atlas the materials and such?
humble yacht
decimation can take hours. The other day I got from 189k polys down to like 19800
I split the materials then I split each material into loose parts
umbral nova
Manual decimation or auto?
opaque hawk
Oh nice I just learned how to use that tool
umbral nova
And what about the materials?
humble yacht
I split the materials into loose parts.
umbral reef
Please tell me you combine everything in the end and atlas them 
umbral nova
That's what I mean
humble yacht
I combine them all yeah lol
tidal aspen
it's always great when there's a random 40k poly sphere in the avatar
umbral nova
lol
humble yacht
Oml my 2b avatar had most of her polys in her fingers
so decimating them was fiddly
Her glove pattern kept getting distorted
it still is
umbral nova
yuH
humble yacht
but it's "nice"
umbral nova
You mean "Okay" right?
humble yacht
No it actually looks nice. It's the same on both sides it's just not the original pattern lol
it's kinda stretched and more triangle-y
but unless you know exactly what it looks like you'd not notice.
rigid crescent
you could replace the hands with a lower poly version's hands
vocal shard
I love loading into a new world and getting an automatic disconnection tab
humble yacht
my internet is terrible so I always disconnect :U
It's so annoying.
it's also crashing a lot today? :U it never used to
flint vortex
Haven’t had any connection issues yet.
vocal shard
My internet is fine.
Its just when I try to join new worlds through a portal.
vrchat will freak out.
brisk radish
I drew up the design for the vrchat model i want and i know she'll never exist😂😂
viral yacht
I mentioned this the other day, about my steamvr and VRChat being deleted off my computer randomly. Well it happened again, and I’m honestly so lost on what is causing it
maiden hound
@viral yacht yeah that happens to me sometimes, annoying af I know
charred wyvern
oof
i wonder if valve knows about that, sounds like a steamvr issue
out of curiosity, what headset do you guys use?
ocean bramble
Vive
viral yacht
Vive
Like this time VRChat deleted for a second time, steamvr didn’t but I need to redo my playspace
Which isn’t hard, just annoying that I need to randomly reset it
charred wyvern
that's so wierd
steamvr updated today if that means anything
so maybe it's that
vocal shard
hey does anyone know ehere to get the pokemon animations (idle, walking, running etc.)
When something odd happens, I assume its a virus causing it, because 97% of the internets users are idiots who love clicking flashy buttons, clicking Accept on everything, or just lack common sense in general
umbral nova
@vocal shard Rule #13
Though I can provide... The question is if I'm willing. Probably not since the animations weren't made with IK in mind, so when put on a VRC avatar with humanoid rigging, the animation just... doesn't play correctly. Same applies for a LOT of animations. Now, is it possible to fix them? Yes. Am I too lazy to? Yes.
So likely you aren't gonna receive any time soon.
vocal shard
ok
heavy shuttle
Hmmm... Guys
You think that VRChat Team will implement compatibility with the futuro Valve Knuckles and Pimax Controllers?
heavy shuttle
But It will change gestures system? I mean... Will knuckles users be able to produce more hand gestures rather than oculus/htc vive users?