the lag spikes in vrchat, that supposedly only takes up one core of a 16 core processor, were causing the media player to lock up and stop playing
#vrchat-general-2
leaden kiln
what the fuck how
like I said I bsod yesterday and the game starts playing an audio loop of conversation for 30 minutes before I crashed
tacit plank
You mean when you load worlds with songs?
leaden kiln
wtf how
tacit plank
That starts youtubedl.exe a bunch of times
leaden kiln
no, local file
indigo fern
Wait, so all you had open was vrc and your media player?
leaden kiln
and discord, yeah
indigo fern
Very strange indeed
leaden kiln
and vrc took up 100% of all resources for no reason
that's why I'm asking here, because this doesn't make sense and it keeps happening lately
I have a Ryzen 1700 with 8 physical cores and twice that with amd's version of hyperthreading
what's been happening to me should not be possible
vocal shard
i hang out at hub most of the time and it took like 75% of my resources most of the time
leaden kiln
yeah, see, how?
vocal shard
thats for cpu
leaden kiln
why am I running at 15.7gb of 16gb ram most of the time running vrchat?
vocal shard
for ram though
leaden kiln
and it doesn't do that for all users
vocal shard
it is 50%+
leaden kiln
I've seen it much lower in the past
opaque remnant
i rarely go above 5GB in vrchat
leaden kiln
yeah, wtf is going on?
tacit plank
How muhc of that is VRChat?
leaden kiln
most of it
I close everything but discord and obs
also that cat I saw was huge, but I went out to confirm it and it was gone
and the people who were out there didn't see it
so... freaky
10am still no devs up
median basalt
Time zones exist
Besides, they probably are up if they're in the US, just not on Discord.
leaden kiln
11am eastern, 8am western
median basalt
Right
leaden kiln
sooo
leaden kiln
ruubrick has been up
leaden kiln
viking logged out
I'm not going to bash them for not being on, I'm just picking at them
but if I had a position like that, I would live here
umbral reef
You would be working instead of discord then
leaden kiln
I would both
this would be part of work
and life
not claiming to be at all normal
median basalt
If you had a position as a dev, you'd spend your time developing
Not lazing around on Discord
leaden kiln
nah, part of developing is listening to your user base
leaden kiln
this is early access, as they like to remind us, so evey bit of user input is part of beta testing
so what do we need to work on? check the discord
worldly gate
most important part of developing is dabbing on the haters
merry sparrow
aye
umbral reef
Also- Users are often retarded or know jack shit about how things are made
So listening to them can be a big waste of time
And they use the canny.io my friend
leaden kiln
true, there's a balance
merry sparrow
really
leaden kiln
nah, they don';t listen to that
merry sparrow
the hell is this
leaden kiln
I'm saying
how is it this broken in September when I started in January and it wasn't this bad?
umbral reef
So they would not listen to the thing they made for input but instead use discord where they get bitched at without proper feedback ?
leaden kiln
obviously not, go read it
how many things on there make perfect sense but still haven't been addressed?
umbral reef
What is more broken then? And btw this has nothing to do with the 'devs are not on discord as there job'
It's an suggestion board not an "vote and we do"
leaden kiln
there are less users. the game is more broken. etc. etc.
median basalt
The canny does have quite a few issues that are stupidly enough not fixed
bit 01 is being extremely vague here so I can't speak for him
But things like sitting down breaking your gestures
leaden kiln
not really if you read back
umbral reef
Won't deny some stuff is bad
But instead listening to discord chats is far from better lmao
leaden kiln
I want to play the game without crashing for no reason, or with reason
median basalt
The devs outright fabricating stuff to argue against custom animators
leaden kiln
or custom controls
that would fix one big thing right there
why try to customize controls when you can just make them customizable by the user and be done with it forever?
we can't even assign gestures by right or left hand
median basalt
Also when I look at older canny's, it's interesting to see how many features have been dismissed as "this is planned already lmoa"
leaden kiln
no reason for that
median basalt
The game has gotten almost no new features for a very long time.
leaden kiln
yeah, planned for when? 2030?
median basalt
Other than some tiny tools for world builders
I do wonder what the devs are doing all day honestly
leaden kiln
there will be another game out that does basically everything better within the next year
median basalt
Other than shouting at people who want custom animators
leaden kiln
the moment that happens, this game dies
median basalt
It's downright ridiculous how slow development is
leaden kiln
that's fact
median basalt
It took them a month to release a toggle for vive movement
leaden kiln
adapt or die, there's no time left
median basalt
VR Pill saying "this should be fixed", it's almost a year later and not even planned
They're quick to remove exploits, but even the simplest of features takes them months
leaden kiln
it's not a mtter of ego at this point, either development gets kicked into high gear right now or the game is literally dead
median basalt
We probably won't see Udon for at least two years at this rate
leaden kiln
ahah, remove what exploits, chairs?
median basalt
No, VR IK and webpanels
Still salty about VR IK but it had to be done. I'm mostly salty that we haven't gotten custom animators officially
leaden kiln
ugh, webpanels were only removed after someone pointed it out to them and they ignored it, so the person exploited it and forced them to take emergency action
median basalt
They're at least giving world builders some attention, but avatar makers have gotten zero
vocal shard
well, at least they tried to stop cheaters
leaden kiln
nah dude
scarlet patio
so uhh
why did i get a black screen trying to load into a world? like no loading screen, just everything black black black~
leaden kiln
cause broken, thus my ranting
scarlet patio
it was the first HDS map
leaden kiln
it's infuriating
scarlet patio
if the world is broken because of the web panel update then the devs should reach out to owners of worlds with those >.<
leaden kiln
it's not, it's just broken
scarlet patio
imma try again but... if it don't work it should be taken off the worlds list
leaden kiln
I tried to load into hangout house last night 5 times in a row and it crashed me every time for no reason
leaden kiln
I talked to a friend of mine that had the same problem with a completely different world
it's just sadness at this point
scarlet patio
thats called their update to make avatars load slower so people can't steal them or something lmfao
leaden kiln
yeah, they already got around that
scarlet patio
thats where your issue lies
scarlet patio
i have to have avatars off otherwise i crash
leaden kiln
having them on doesn't matter
I literally got bsod sitting in a private room with 5 people talking about random stuff
nothing happened
I randomly crash with the audio from half an hour ago playing
game is fucked
vocal shard
the last time i was crashed is more than 1 month ago
leaden kiln
it's not my issue, based on the fact I mentioned clearly that many other people have crashed with me or complained to me about it, and many of them with better hardware and internet connections. All agree that recent update have made it continually worse
many others have just stopped playing
scarlet patio
i've never BSOD
that means one of your friends probably has a crash avatar or something my guy
or the world you're in is a crash world xD
vocal shard
Tbh I’m just glad to see this kind of discussion hasn’t been removed. Criticism is important, and my experience in the past has been that VRC doesn’t take to it very well.
So I mean to me it says that VRC is improving in that regard (or these haven’t been seen yet but I’d like to think positively).
scarlet patio
with the big hacker scare
people blew up out of proportions
that's wherein most of these problems lie
leaden kiln
well, they aren't awake yet
vocal shard
Ahh fair point ^^
vocal shard
Oof
raven silo
anti-cheat program for vrchat lol
leaden kiln
that exists, and they ban for using it
raven silo
no anti-cheat is program check the client not be mess with
median basalt
They ban for modified clients
raven silo
it program stop hacker
median basalt
If you modify your client to stop crashers, that's still modding your client
raven silo
alot mmorpg use it
leaden kiln
yeah, but makes no sense
vocal shard
i am sure most of the game ban client modifying
raven silo
yea but they have anti-cheat program on them to
vocal shard
Yeah, if it’s a straight up client mod I can see where it would be problematic
leaden kiln
but it's a mod where it just dumps anything that crashes you
sleek galleon
Hiiii
leaden kiln
which the devs were handed the code to
raven silo
@leaden kiln that hack client
sleek galleon
I'm new XD
vocal shard
But I also see why having the ability to defend against cheating players is important, and features to do so should be implemented into the main client tbh
leaden kiln
but they aren't
sonic coyote
hey just so that i dont annoy anyone by not checking, is there somewhere i can look for info on how to get verified so i can upload avatars?
vocal shard
then the problem is not about them banning the mod client, it is about them refusing to implement it
leaden kiln
just play for a while
median basalt
@sonic coyote play more
sonic coyote
how long is a while lol
median basalt
There is no "how long"
raven silo
yes it has option in hack client to fake ban,make people stay up in air, teleport etc them thing do exist but slove problem would make sure client check got any hack on them
median basalt
It's not time-based
leaden kiln
I don't know what it is, but I'm tired of it cause I have to suffer for it
sonic coyote
mk well i gotta play 5 more hours then at least lol
median basalt
Just play the game normally until you get a message
raven silo
if you dont have program check client anyone can hack it
median basalt
Some people get upload rights earlier FYI, since it's not time-based
sonic coyote
fair
median basalt
I think your account has to be of X age, and getting friend requests helps a lot. Personal experience.
They intentionally keep the system vague
sonic coyote
i've already been in game for 15 hours according to steam (and no i didnt login with steam, i know u can only upload avatars with a vrchat login)
raven silo
client is where this problem coming from it need better security
sonic coyote
then what's the point in it? 🤔
leaden kiln
just punishes us
sonic coyote
weird
sonic coyote
i really wanna get my kirito or aqua avatars in game soon lol
it's difficult to find worlds with good avatars
sonic coyote
i mean today
vocal shard
my standard is quite low, so it is easy for me to find "good" avatars
leaden kiln
far more than when I started
sonic coyote
cuz for some reason it keeps disconnecting me
vocal shard
good enough for me anyway
sonic coyote
yeah
my wifi is running fine cuz i can play youtube while waiting for vrchat to load again
modern sand
Have any of you contacted the support yet ?
leaden kiln
and they were jsut talking about network optimization
sonic coyote
nah cuz i only just joined the discord
leaden kiln
dude, that's obviously not working
here's a feature for you: every time a client crashes, it automatically sends the log to support
how much would that help the dev team?
I'm thinking MASSIVELY
do that
vocal shard
i doubt they will look into it though
vocal shard
unless a massive amount of players encounter it
leaden kiln
a massive amount are, that's been my point
vocal shard
as a software developer, i ignore those too unless it is in huge amount
leaden kiln
it is, believe me
safe prism
use ML to sift through what happened
ivory folio
are you complaining about being crashed by people or just the game crashing in general?
vocal shard
game crashing
leaden kiln
BOTH
more the game carshing for no reason though, since I rarely go in public to be crashed
sonic coyote
i have yet to have my game crashed by someone else
leaden kiln
but that's sad that I can't go in public to meet new people
sonic coyote
but i have had it crash on it's own a lot today
it was fine when i used it yesterday
just today
leaden kiln
cause if we can't go inpublic to meet new people then how will the game ever grow?
sonic coyote
it keeps disconnecting and needing to re-download maps and takes forever to load maps
leaden kiln
it can't,. new people are screwed
sonic coyote
im new lol
safe prism
but not everyone experiences this
leaden kiln
I admit it's hit and miss, but far more hit
safe prism
prove it
vocal shard
I'm new. It really depends but I've had a lot of fun with people
leaden kiln
keep in mind that most people will jsut give up the game than ever complain abou tit
vocal shard
I just want to upload my skins. I want to start doing the genome soldiers as well
safe prism
if people give up on the game how could they have told you
modern sand
Definitely not as impacting as you might think, but if you don't get in touch with the support, it won't get more attention
safe prism
or how do you know they didn't
safe prism
then why isn't it
raven silo
best report to #moderation-reports want problem to fix need to be more then one person complain about the person doing it get better info
safe prism
that's sort of the logic i see
leaden kiln
don't sit there and pretend nothing is wrong when you know it is
if nothing is wrong then why am I here?
safe prism
i don't experience this. only one person on my friends list does, out of a couple hundred.
leaden kiln
why am I here with 1000 hours of play time in this game?
safe prism
i don't hear people in larger VRC discord communities saying it
with similar amounts of time
raven silo
if one person complain not enough info. mostly ignore one person complain if there 10 or more complain about person mostly going look into it
one reason support ticket need to be made
leaden kiln
unless the other 9 have complained, been ignored and quit
I have watched that over and over
look at the latest dev video for NeosVR
you see the guy with the goatee?
safe prism
the fact remains that being loud here is just going to make people like me question every word you make until no one believes you
mighty galleon
ive never really experienced any problem with vrchat
raven silo
big problem is public
mighty galleon
my only problem in public is squeakers so i just block them lol
candid goblet
I dealing with the most Abusive people in a lobby rn
Causing Huge unmovable lag and noises
modern sand
leaden kiln
yeah, wow, you can report a toxic crasher with a vendetta against you and all your friends only to have them unbanned 30 days later while they use an alt account in the meantime
affect against them=zero
does literally nothing
leaden kiln
and addresses no part of the issues with the game stability or total lack thereof
candid goblet
have to restart my game
leaden kiln
not to bash on you ruub, but yeah, that's where we are
candid goblet
yep
modern sand
You still haven't emailed the support right ?
candid goblet
Idk what to email them. Yea my game was getting lag and no one could move. So Its not like I can know who it was
modern sand
You specifically, anyone who has any bug should email us, if you don't do it thinking that other people will in your place or already have, then there's not gonna be any progress on it for sure.
leaden kiln
I have, my friends have, there's been no progress. It's gone backwardds and gotten worse to the point that here we are with me spending hours on this in the discord for lack of any other option
I honestly don't know what else to do
candid goblet
was not a bug, just abuse of a model.
leaden kiln
people getting banned means nothing
most of the people that I've caught crashing me have been steam accounts
other than the game just crashing for no reason at all
modern sand
I can't find any ticket linked to your email, so again, please send us an email.
leaden kiln
you really need an email describing what people have been telling you for months?
really?
I want to help, I really do, but it's just a pit of frustration at this point
modern sand
Users describing an issue in discord is not super helpful, what's helpful is users emailing us with their output log, crash log, info on their network, or anything reliable that we can use to understand the issue.
leaden kiln
how does a crash log work on bsod? Nothing is written to any log on a hard crash
and are you debating the fact that crashers basically have free reign no matter what you've tried?
modern sand
I thought this wasn't about users or network ?
modern sand
So you still won't email the support i'm guessing.
leaden kiln
with what? other than what I've sent over the past 8 months?
you want video of me crashing every time I join a world?
modern sand
That and your outputlog, yes please.
leaden kiln
and that' snot automatically sent why?
simple thing
on crash=send log
pretty much everything has that, right?
candid goblet
i dont who was though??
modern sand
Firefox has tens of thousand of employees, it's a system that requires work and time, we're working on a lot of things at the same time, We're still in alpha btw.
leaden kiln
you've been there for a long time
tacit plank
Weird, browsers kind of suck
leaden kiln
your competition is catching up really fast
leaden kiln
and liek I said earlier, you're approaching that adapt or die point very fast
indigo fern
Not sure why the naming scheme changed, it was easier to recognize the game was alpha when it was version 0.xx
now its just 2018.x ;-;
leaden kiln
be a lot better if it was unity 2018 lol! /troll
candid goblet
idk, just summited a ticket that would be discharged pretty easily because I have no backing up sources or names
indigo fern
did you give output log?
candid goblet
no, I never fully crashed. I had to manually close the game because I froze
leaden kiln
that's what I'm saying
candid goblet
Thats what they
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt
indigo fern
weird things in my ctrl + v i see
candid goblet
It never fully crashes you but it causes so much particle lag you cant do anything
leaden kiln
I'm also annoyed because I know I copy pasted the log several times so I'd have it but now that I look at it the last one is from 8/23
umbral reef
Because it clear each reboot
umbral reef
To where
umbral reef
Why would you even keep it there-
That is honestly asking for problems
leaden kiln
why dump that on the users
why are your customers the problem?
seems like a bad business plan
umbral reef
Bit- Have you ever worked at a new company or an start up? Or at an marketing company?
leaden kiln
yes
umbral reef
If so- You would think a lot different of a lot of stuff that happens..
Im working at an location where there are 12 start up companies going.
Two years ago i also worked at a fairly new company
Both where with tech
And all problems VRC has those companies had also
leaden kiln
uh, no
umbral reef
Alpha/beta products are not user friendly
leaden kiln
your customers are generally ignorant, and blaming them for your problems makes you an idiot
as the second in command of a small telecom I say that from experience
umbral reef
Do they blame you? They never did- All they did was ask for more information then "shits broken" and that is all your saying if you make it compact
They need a way to reproduce your bugs and an way to do that is the outputlog
umbral reef
Since when did i blame all users for there own problems
You know what- If you want to keep talking do it to #general-media il be happy to explain/talk about it
But this is the wrong channel for it
leaden kiln
what no, vrchat is
any problem with the game = did you report it? your hardware sucks, blah
umbral reef
Again- do it in #general-media
leaden kiln
why, it's directly vrchat related
we have been talking about nothing but vrchat and why we aren't playing but in the discord instead
safe prism
<- also second in command of a small-ish telecom
<- also deals with gamers every single day that complain about stuff that we have evidence to the contrary
<- also sees that when things are actually wrong in a place we have to fix it, things get very loud very fast.
where's the loud
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i'm not playing atm because the only person i want to be around is asleep
leaden kiln
k, and your system does not crash for no reason at random, yes?
umbral reef
English isnt even my second language
And got dyslexia so its hard for me to undo those things 
And this is also far from an professional place so i dont spend energy into fixing up my grammar
tacit plank
Vocal sounds are "an"
leaden kiln
hissing
umbral reef
No we dont
candid goblet
didn't realize that I needed a new account to make Models😦 , 34 hours down the drain
vocal shard
i played on steam account for 100 hourish
if that makes you feel better
Oh boy
State based animations
Zzz
My heirarchy on my avatar is like 10 screens long
😏
holy...
tacit plank
How do you manage states?
vocal shard
By making your own version of toggle props that isnt broken
tacit plank
We're only allowed to upload animations basically, and they're very limited
vocal shard
?
tacit plank
Can't script etc
vocal shard
You can have over 100+ animations
By doing combinations gestures
And using toggle emotes to change states
like one gesture enable the upper hierarchy
and another one to enable the lower etc?
tacit plank
4 emotes for control, 4 for states, so 16 in total?
vocal shard
Theres a video on it
tacit plank
I could use the video
vocal shard
But he doesnt explain how to make the toggle system
tacit plank
FinalIK is gone and I can't think of any good workarounds
The ones I've seen sync badly too
tacit plank
Ah, cool, thank you!
vocal shard
Essentially infinite magic spells
For you magical girls
😏
ban for nudity during transformation
Lol
Nudity is just apart of life
ban overlay effects because they make me feel ill and dizzy
Lol
Im unaffected by overlays and motion effects
I dont use them tho
Even tho i have all of them none of my avatars use them
It is
If a mod is in the room
You get banned
Ive seen some of the devs mass ban people ingame
nothing wroong with a little spook
noble dirge
when are the mods ever in a room tho 
vocal shard
just not fun when it's just sudden disorientating noise and flashing visuals
basically find myself blocking nearly every desktop user I encounter. Some are cool
and ear rape music too
@noble dirge sometimes they are invis
noble dirge
fair enough, thanks m8
vocal shard
Generally the problem maps have mods lurking around
umbral reef
Fairly sure they can also disable there mod tag and just have an normal acc like
vocal shard
yep
Ive seen people get taken out by mods in the old box
if you can program it you can do anything
unless it's source SDK because that stinks
as a rule of thumb
Source 2 WHEN FFS
just block all of the avatars which looks something like this
If they look like a crasher they probably are
crasher?
the image that i posted is a perfect example
if they are not with crash guns, they are with earrape music and screen shake shader
I saw a The World shader done
was actually pretty cool
The fractals
Yea i have some of those
my plan with my MGS ones is to give them alerts
make it covered with a box as moving animation
that can work as well
a button for my Snake to play this
i.e. the best track in MGS1
I am WEAK for heavy synths
umbral reef
Just make sure to properly report users like that with an video and or photo's
And do not forget the outputlog with the local time of when it happened
vocal shard
I wanted to create a mist shader for a SKULL soldier but that would only be irritating for other players sadly
also giant models are a pile of poo
😦
but not gonna lie, i've been so tempted to make a giant REX
What's wrong with giant models? (Within SDK limits)
just overwhelming
maybe I don't like them because I've just seen meme ones.
🤷
wait until you see my dragons
are they lewd?
haven't made a lewd one yet
i'd love to see them
probably kanna
huh okay
Lore wise ..... She's hundreds of years old...
But in dragon years... She's still a child
it is ok, the kanna gang in vrc is going to be dominated soon
tacit plank
Lolicon isn't illegal, that's just a dumb meme
Unless you live in Canada, or maybe England
vocal shard
by the almighty ouka
tacit plank
But who wants to live there anyways?
umbral reef
@tacit plank Canadian people or english ones 👀
tacit plank
You mean English people enjoy lolicon, porn and butterknives being illegal?
They're not
umbral reef
Oi mate where is ya license to have an license :^)
tacit plank
Technically illegal in some states, but it's entirely unenforced
vocal shard
edit:politic
tacit plank
"political" is very broad
modern sand
amazing topic for #general-media
vocal shard
best to avoid it though
candid goblet
well it happened
again
but this time it was not lag but Loud ear raping noises with extremely bright colors
@modern sand Is this breaking tos?
loud/Screen filling colors
modern sand
Yep, #moderation-reports
Please keep the report videos out of the other channels, not really appropriate
next oxide
anyone knows if there is "Seven Deadly Sins" avatar world?
candid goblet
in the second video he was just showing all his models that would simply kill your screen in a VR headset
frosty fog
Hey just got randomly disconnected out from my account with the message "disconnected"
any reason that I got it?
candid goblet
Im legit just going to follow this guy around till he gets kick or something
Did my ticket go through? Admins?
terse path
I don't mean to be in a rush, but I've had a problem with VRC for three days now and all I got was an email telling me to follow #vrchat-support when I had already done so. I would really like to get this issue over with.
VRC being broken as f***.
I even have problems getting onto vrchat.net.
meager solstice
u gonna say the issue?
vocal shard
Any error showing ?
terse path
Won't go past the loading screen. When it finally does I'm loaded into the error world with no avatar. All of my custom avatars have a thumbnail saying No Picture and the same goes for all the worlds. I have neither an online or offline friends list and if I try to load into another world it either jump me to my home then default then home then error world or it doesn't load at all.
Nope.
meager solstice
i would just say try clearing cache/verify files/ reinstall
never had a problem like that
terse path
Well like I said in the first post, been there, done that.
And nothing happened.
Disabled.
vocal shard
Strange. Sounds like a corrupted install of VRChat.
terse path
That keeps corrupting itself every time I reinstall apparently.
vocal shard
Error world is due most likely to something related to the servers tho. Maybe your Internet provider is blocking something VRChat needs ?
terse path
Already checked Router logs and nothing comes up.
vocal shard
You did write to support right ?
terse path
Yes.
And all I got was an email. telling me to follow #vrchat-support.
Welp, looks like I won't be getting any help today just like yesterday.
vocal shard
I don't think they have a massive support crew that's the thing.
terse path
Also, sometimes as I'm spamming refresh on vrchat.net to get it to work I get this: ERR_SSL_VERSION_INTERFERENCE. Anyone care to explain why I'm getting this even if my anti virus is turned off?
vocal shard
For that specific problem, have you tried using a different browser ?
terse path
Same issue.
noble dirge
Disconnected>Log back in>Disconnected>Log back in>Disconnected gg servers lol
vocal shard
Maybe the servers are experiencing issues ?
small wing
I cant afford the merch so im gonna get angsty and make the black shirt i wanted that wasnt in the store anyways for my vrchat model in game 😩
terse path
None of my friends have been having any problems
terse path
No.
small wing
Good
cause that would hurt
and it was expression
1v1 me in lumbridge
imma make my vrchat shirt
Why they didnt make black a choice in the store is beyond me
vocal shard
@terse path I wonder, what's your antivirus ?
small wing
windows firewall but i disable mine 😉
cause i do scans and im not an idiot when i download
vocal shard
I see. Cause I've read Kaspersky could have issues. But since it's Norton... I don't know.
noble dirge
kk servers are good for me again
small wing
Ive ran my pc without a reset for 3 years
no antivirus
and i only reset cause i wanted my files wiped.
norton has triggered me in the past and you can already tell.
👌
See if norton is blocking the connection to the server if possible
If not i think you can do a cmd command in command prompt to reset static ip for the computer you are on
terse path
It would be in the logs and I haven't come up with anything yet.
small wing
forgot the command
terse path
I can look it up
vocal shard
@terse path I've read that AWS (Amazon servers, which VRChat uses) have issues with some connections sometimes, especially with some Internet providers and countries.
small wing
netsh int ip reset reset.txt
netsh winsock reset
netsh advfirewall reset
command prompt
terse path
I'm in the US. I got ipconfig /renew
small wing
put that in and restart, or dont if you dont know what im telling you.
But what that should do is reset your connections and attempt to fix things.
if it doesn't then its either on vrchats side or firewall.
@vocal shard I was told the opposite about the servers 🤔
someone told me they own their own
vocal shard
Personally if I had the problem, I would just go "Uninstall Norton. If that doesn't solve the issue, reinstall Windows entirely"
small wing
"Uninstall the bloatware"
😉
Windows defender will do you just fine
just dont be an idiot and torrent stuff you shouldnt be.
And also keep up with the updates
vocal shard
There are still people in this world that attempt to "Download RAM" lol
small wing
lmao yep
the new one ive seen is antiviruses that are actually just the viruses
and they pop up on websites and so many people fall for it, its sad.
But im going to get back to working on my vrchat map
super tied up at the moment with this AI im working on.
Figured out navmesh and npcs in a world
somehow doesnt get blacklisted so im excited
broken sail
Who ever made this africa map with the toto song should have used that cover version...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH9FyLsfDzw
🙏🏻
small wing
too clean for me imo
vocal shard
XD
vocal shard
More double bass pedal action. lol
broken sail
@small wing Ok I agree but with the voice of the other version....
broken sail
Not only that. Sounds like someone grabed his balls. ^^
small wing
yep lmao
broken sail
Well I guess thats what old power metal sounds like...
The moment I wrote that my looked at the first suggestion. Even harder grab on the nutsack...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZukAbzbhFOo
Even his face looks like that. 😄
small wing
damn now i wanna listen to the devil wears prada again
you are taking me back to my edgy years
but imma need to remaster it first
all of thier old stuff is muddy
terse path
It's still broken.
vocal shard
I wonder if there's a diagnostic tool that could allow you to test connection to Amazon servers.
terse path
Why Amazon servers?
vocal shard
Because VRChat uses AWS, which are Amazon servers.
terse path
The funny thing is all this started when I closed VRC to get something to eat and when I came back it was broke.
safe prism
that's a reachability test for AWS, doesn't test really anything other than your ISP can route into and out of those IP ranges, which is the entirety of AWS
vocal shard
All green o3o
safe prism
should be no matter what
if it isn't, yell loudly
amazon traffic engineers are beautiful humans
vocal shard
When Amazon servers go offline, half of the Internet dies.
vocal shard
so i have an oculus and i started using my 360 kinect to do full body tracking
have you guys heard of that
terse path
Nope.
vocal shard
It works. It's far from ideal.
Like VERY far from ideal.
But it works.
works for me
terse path
Then again I don't use VR.
vocal shard
it has some leg trackings
it works ok
except for some times
Vive body trackers is like... owning a Porsche 911 while Kinect V1 is like... a tricycle. X)
But it's still fun to experiment with it if you find a Kinect for free.
Kinect V2 improves the tracking a little bit, but requires modification to get it to work on Windows.
But Vive trackers 🤤
@terse path If there's really nothing that helps, I would go full drastic and somehow borrow a computer from someone else, plug that bad boy to my connection, and test VRChat on it. If it works, you got a problem with your PC.
i've had my 360 kinect for like 4 years
safe prism
i'd had random issues with vrchat breaking my network speeds for just my VR PC, just kinda resetting the adapter in windows fixes it sometimes
sometimes restarting the PC
¯_(ツ)_/¯
not a big deal, i can usually catch it on world loads, kick myself to home and do it and never disconnect
terse path
So I'm not the only one. That's somewhat good to hear.
terse path
Did he get it fixed?
placid pumice
nah
terse path
Damn.
I'm getting to the point where I'm going to end up uninstalling VRC for good.
And if that happens then oh well.
dense plume
@terse path I actually fixed mine by switching network channels. I didn’t catch that I was on my routers 2.4ghz channel. I then switched to my 5.0 channel and it worked like a charm
terse path
Been there, done that. Still didn't work.
noble dirge
67554-*/9+8
terse path
What?
vocal shard
67,561.88888888889
small wing
its a secret code for the key to the universe
noble dirge
yus
small wing
and if u solve it u nutt forever
vocal shard
have i nutted forever because i solved it
small wing
yes
vocal shard
DAB
small wing
you are the nutt
candid goblet
anyone having issues with models not loading
staying red
with a stuck 100%
vocal shard
you got enough space on your pc ?
candid goblet
where does that stuff save?
I have VRchat on a separate drive which has 120 gb rn
but I started to notice my C drive was low but Its not stored on that drive?
terse path
It's come to that moment where I say kiss my a** VRC.
Because the problem is not getting fixed.
vocal shard
@candid goblet There's a workaround to tell Windows to put all the files elsewhere, yes.
vocal shard
Full path is "C:\Users\ [Your username]\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat". But you need to make sure that Windows is displaying hidden folders.
candid goblet
its crazy though, started to notice my storage was being used up at an alarming rate. I dont know if its crchat
vocal shard
4 pictures is almost 3 mb
exact amount 2.80 mb
if you have vr you might have used the camera
that effects storage
wispy ivy
did anyone else just get disconnected
floral flaxBOT
There are 5685 users in VRChat currently
floral flaxBOT
There are 5685 users in VRChat currently
vocal shard
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 5688 users in VRChat currently
floral flaxBOT
There are 5688 users in VRChat currently
faint hatch
@wispy ivy Yup.. now can't login
floral flaxBOT
There are 5688 users in VRChat currently
floral flaxBOT
There are 5624 users in VRChat currently
vocal shard
oh man
dae vrchat is dying?!
its still over 5k
5.6k
There's a dedicated channel for requesting commands to the bot too: #bottalk
south mist
Is there a way to make it so you can see a shader on everything around you while other people cant?
vocal shard
@floral flax someone by the name PaulPer has kicked me out and I feel very scared. can you please come over to my world?
or at least send a moderator?
vocal shard
okay. can you let him off with a warning not to do that? @meager solstice ?
I feel scared.
meager solstice
I’m in no way affiliated with VRChat
vocal shard
okay.
meager solstice
Just a player
vocal shard
okay
south mist
someone cant just kick you out???? were you vote kicked?
vocal shard
no just kicked.
meager solstice
I mean if they owned the instance they can kick u out
modern sand
He can kick you out of his instance as many times as he wants.
south mist
that too
vocal shard
I feel like everything if breaking down.
south mist
wat
south mist
for what though? If you were in someone elses instance then they can kick you
so you got kicked
thats all
vocal shard
I know. Look the guy kicked me because he though I was an asshole. he still wouldn't move on and give me mercy to have a fun time, it's harder for me to forgive him. I need some help, that's all.
I've been through a lot of this and I need a person to understand me.
vocal shard
can you at least tell PaulPer to not do that the next time he sees me. I'm tired of him as he is of me.
I'm very pissed at him for doing this.
meager solstice
Block him
vocal shard
I can't
modern sand
That's nobody's job, he has the right to do it.
vocal shard
I don't have him in my world.
meager solstice
U can search his name in the social tab
south mist
chances are you'll never see him again anyway
vocal shard
I did.
south mist
ok thats that
south mist
Look, you will probably never see him ever again and if you do block him on the spot
simple
vocal shard
but that's the problem. In vrchat, I can't
south mist
what????
vocal shard
not unless he's in the room.
south mist
if you ever meet him again block him on the spot
simple
chances are you wont anyway
south mist
he didnt do anything wrong
he didnt want you in his server so he removed you from his game
vocal shard
you know what I did after that? pressed alt f4
south mist
sarcasm
modern sand
Can you two take that to DMs ? If not, probably best to move on.
south mist
its not personal though
vocal shard
okay.
thanks!
here you go! @vocal shard
but one more thing: if paulper does this, tell him this: you might get away with this now online, but in life, It's going to stab you in the heart.
ruby burrow
I've had the same thing in the past, where whilst trying to visit a friend the host of the instance kicked me the very instant I joined the room. Have never even met the guy, but he's done it three times over different days now, and presumably is just too damn stupid to create an invite only instance rather than friends+.
It's frustrating, but not remotely against any rules, and not something worth worrying or getting stressed about.
formal night
Yep. Just hit the the block. Plenty of others to get to know.
south mist
it really do be like that sometimes
formal night
Needed that before work.
vocal shard
Back then when i had an english name, i entered a public death run room full of chinese which were meant to be private only. Lo and behold, they were panic about this "lao wai (foreign people)" who is suddenly in their room and is apparently going to kick me.
candid goblet
what do I delete in the locallow vrchat
cunning pebble
I'm trying to extract a japanese rar file and I followed instructions to change the unicode language to japanese and my whole windows settings is in japanese
any help?
vocal shard
Delete the following folders inside that folder:
Cookies
HTTPCache
Unity
VRCHTTPCache
cunning pebble
Well unfortunately I can't read Japanese and I can't navigate windows settings anymore
modern sand
follow the same stepss but change it back to 英語
cunning pebble
I was so frustrated for 5 minutes, thank you
Japanese files are now properly displaying japanese
wintry wave
eh
i joined my bud and i was in a blue test map
i was in the wrong map
everyone was in a avatar testing map but i was in a blue squared map with grappling hooks and health bars
it do have a screenshot
cant post it tho
vast sail
are the servers shitting out for you guys too?
vocal shard
yeah
vocal shard
Somebody forgot to pay the bills...
patent grotto
oof lol
vocal shard
Btw, does anyone uses OVRdrop in VRChat and could confirm if it offers a virtual keyboard in-game so I can type my text to speech stuff without the need to drop the controllers or switch to old SteamVR desktop ?
chrome grotto
Have a wonderful day today everyone! You are all amazing, make today count! 
zealous pelican
I have played 56 hours, but I do not have avatar rights. Help
My game ID is HueyEllen.
vocal shard
@zealous pelican Getting upload permission isn't based on time. It's based on how active you are in-game. Things like making friends and not getting kicked speed up the process.
zealous pelican
thank you
dire palm
no
true sky
@zealous pelican plus you need to use a vrchat account, not a steam account
small wing
I feel like shana is secretly the most angry person on the planet is only tells us to have a good day because she will eventually end us all.
im scared guys help
fast bronze
@vocal shard
inner cape
vocal shard
@fast bronze Hmm ?
vocal shard
RIP.
inner cape
@vocal shard get pinged nerd
vocal shard
Well technically it's 3 am here.
fast bronze
Same
vocal shard
@inner cape
inner cape
fast bronze
Teal teach me how to use stations with animator blend trees
vocal shard
That. I absolutely have no idea what's that. lol
fast bronze
A blend tree tells an avatar how to move when it walks
I can make NPCs do that
But I want a station vehicle to do that
vocal shard
I... am confused.
true sky
fast bronze
Fuck
modern sand
Why don't you just add a station onto the gameobject and add the npc in it btw
fast bronze
Hmm
modern sand
that's how i'm controlling my generic models that are quadripeds
fast bronze
I just got the image of house pets that you click and their heads scale to 0 and your body does too then your head replaces theirs and you become them
I think it's bed time
vocal shard
@fast bronze Ni ni o/
modern sand
You could also have a separate NPC object, that is an empty gameobject i'd guess, and tied to that, a generic model with a station on it
Or you could wait for stations on avatars
maybe it'd help
fast bronze
No
A. Id just make my own game faster and B. It's easier to try out getting hacky with what's available
As I said in world's Ive got 90% of the game made in unity, it's my compulsion to make it work in VRC that keeps me trying
Either way I like your npc that follows the station idea
Just gotta try to make it not lag and stuff lol
Ni Ni
sonic verge
is it just me or vrchat connection is so bad atm
loading every other game is easy af
true sky
did keep getting vrchat is not responding message
sonic verge
manage to load but god damn it took like 10 minutes to load a world thats 60mb small
vocal shard
a lot of other players complained since yesterday
i have no issue though
I did everything on #vrchat-support
And I am still logging out or timing out
and it is getting annoying
umbral reef
You also send the email to support@vrchat.com yet/
vocal shard
do they actually respond?
from my personal experience, yes
sometimes it might take more than 1 day though
sonic verge
it didnt log me out but more like, what i get for 3 minutes, will take me 10 minutes at the very least
i think its in the widespread atm
considering not a lot of worlds have above 70 people
vocal shard
Huh. Just as I was checking out the vids I just found of a guy called Lolathon, youtube axed his channel.
hushed isle
Axed?
vocal shard
Yeah. Deleted.
hushed isle
Oof
mighty galleon
well then
hushed isle
I uploaded a stream from my race in NFS Underground 2 and youtube warned me to remove the music from the vid 'cuz it violates copyright. But the music was the ingame original soundtrack. I wrote back to YT started with WTF? Next day: video still online with no sound...
I had conflicts with steam too... Last one was blizzard with diablo 3. Without the expansion i'm limited to level 75. Is this discrimination or what?
twin jacinth
The song is copyrighted and they will strike you / take money earned from the video
Does not matter if it's in a game or not as long as it's copyright material
Free content these days is rare aint it? don't expect to get stuff free.
umbral reef
Writing an "WTF" does not give an counterclaim
And ingame music can be copyrighted-
But make sure to check who made the claim first
And this isnt VRC talk so wrong channel
mighty galleon
oclac
umbral reef
Hm?
mighty galleon
what should i eat
umbral reef
Food
mighty galleon
what type
odd beacon
edible
mighty galleon
good suggestions
odd beacon
preferably tasty
odd beacon
yes
vocal shard
wow nothing is loading all of a sudden
and plus i have been dealing with the stuck in loading screen
and for fucks sake when i was on the game yesterday with all them streamers i was lagging HORRIBLY like i couldnt even move
the optimization is taking forever to fix honestly
just constant popping sounds for days
umbral reef
Crazy- You do know 80% of the performance hits are because of the users right?
Avatars with Dynamic bones and lots of materials are far from an good thing to performance...
median basalt
80% is a bit too much
A room with default MR bots will still lag if there's 30 people in it
The largest performance hits are not in our control (other than excessive dynamic bone)
vocal shard
so far the game can handle 15 or lower...
which is annoying
once theres like 16 or something...here comes the lag lol
median basalt
I'm still fine at 20 as long as the avatars are optimized
We need stricter limits on the SDK IMO
Material and dynamic bone limits, a less harsh poly limit
Ask Diviy and Littlemouse lol
vocal shard
bruh even those lag free worlds is making people lag....
which is VERY misleading XD
median basalt
But I think we can't discuss any DMCA stuff in here, especially not specific cases
I'm curious what their general policy is though
floral minnow
We're not allowed to talk about it here per VRpills previous request, but suffice to say VRchat aren't following DMCA law.
median basalt
Oof
opaque remnant
haven't seen any evidence that they aren't
floral minnow
Once again, I'd love to talk about it but I don't want VRpill to ban me.
median basalt
@opaque remnant Most people thankfully don't have to deal with DMCA
In this community
The ones that do all report similar stories.
vocal shard
Hello
Can anyone help me with this polygon bs
I am like stuck and that is the only thing I need to do
median basalt
Polygon BS?
vocal shard
I am a complete noob using blender
floral minnow
Actually a lot of people are dealing with DMCA right now. We are a special case because someone is actively harassing us using DMCA as a tool.
median basalt
Tupper's MMD to VRChat megatutorial has a good guide on manual decimation, which will bring your model under 20k.
vocal shard
it's not gonna cut it
median basalt
So definitely check that out
vocal shard
I am not in a mood to fucking watch videos
I've been on this tutorial for the past 5 hours
median basalt
Good luck figuring it out, in that case.
Because the other methods of going under 20k involve remaking the topology to be lower poly
Which requires 3D modeling experience
Or use the Cats auto decimation on "half" @vocal shard
vocal shard
"how to make custom avatar"
mighty galleon
how to claim froppy
slim temple
@floral minnow can you give me some examples?
floral minnow
Once again, VRpill doesn't want me talking about it. I don't want to be banned.
slim temple
MMD is a special case, anyone claiming dmca on something they released on deviantart is HIGHLY, HIGHLY unlikely to hold any copyright
oh! I didn't realize, sorry
south mist
What you talking about
vocal shard
about the DMCA bullshit
inner cape
mighty galleon
-pats ghosto-
mighty galleon
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
vocal shard
THANKS
hushed isle
Devil May Cry Alpha 😉
ruby burrow
You've gotta love when people come in here asking how to do something, and then throw a tantrum when you tell them it will require learning, and that you can't magic wand their problem away.
thorn latch
In fairness, the CATs tool is basically a magic wand
velvet kite
Na man. I should just be able to import my 3d model from my head by now.
Also I've noticed CATs tool breaks more models than it actually fixes.. or is that just me?
median basalt
Cats works fine for me most of the time
But the current build tends to delete the Hips and Head for no reason
All the other functions work fine, just avoid Fix Model
Or try it out anyway and only disregard using it if it breaks
velvet kite
I'm pretty sure using the translation tool gave my model bones, then proceeded to rip them out of her flesh.
Just fun tool things
vocal shard
ooh new update
frank pawn
stable aurora
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median basalt
Active Worlds now also shows at the bottom of your Social menu
Avatar Worlds now also shows in the bottom of your Avatars menu
Can we stop clogging up lists with uselessness?
The menu is slow enough already
night lark
update 3.1 is called 1.3 in steam pag