My avatar is the sexiest 1 in vrc now
#vrchat-general-2
proper stump
lemme see dawg!
vocal shard
Zzz have to upload
Hold on
Zzz
Im on my phone
A crown and heart that render through everything
Have some toggle prop emotes on it
Personal "darkness" bubble with a high render q for those worlds that are as bright as the sun
Because rip my eyes
I could put it on actual glasses but nah
ruby burrow
Suave.
vocal shard
And some other stuff
My standard invis animation so i can run away from all them thirsty people
Passive eye glowing animation
ruby burrow
Regarding that by the way, stuff like sunglasses. Do you happen to know how to get them to render for the person wearing them?
Last time I tried mounting something to the head, it became invisible to myself. Which I hear is a deliberate feature to prevent you seeing your own head.
vocal shard
No
My shader is different
It just darkens the area inside
But i made the area the size of my avatar
ruby burrow
Dang. Yeah, I just thought you might know, since you mentioned glasses as an alternative.
vocal shard
Nah
I meant like
Wait
You can add your glasses in unity
Just attach them to your head
ruby burrow
I just want something locked my head movements, that I can still see.
ruby burrow
Last time I tried it was invisible. ._.
vocal shard
Huh
ruby burrow
Despite being a good distance in front.
vocal shard
You cant see your glasses
Thats normal
I used to have shutter shades on 1 of my avs.. I would not want that in my view
Lol
What you could do is put a personal hud or overlay shader on yourself
If you really wanted to simulate that
ruby burrow
Well the thing I'm actually trying to accomplish, is mounting a fixed camera and local display in front of me. But should be the same principle.
Hud/Overlay shader huh? That might be what I need. '-'
Probably be a far better solution too, if it works for it.
I'll look into that. Thanks for the lead.
ruby burrow
Yeah. As I discovered/heard.
vocal shard
parent them to the neck and it will still follow the head movement but you should be able to see it
ruby burrow
I'll have to try that first.
vocal shard
you'll see that the head will follow it perfectly
ruby burrow
It will depend on the neck having identical tracking though, or else the object won't lock to my view correctly.
vocal shard
but stuff will still disappear if they get too close to the viewpoint
ruby burrow
Thanks for this tip too then. I really should have just tested this myself already.
uncut trail
Anyone owns a Verico Element G G350 USB Virtual 7.1 RGB Gaming Headset ?
ruby needle
a what 
ruby burrow
If I can get this working, the next step will be trying to find maps worth having zoom vision for. ^ ^;
Need an over sized opticians testing map.
uncut trail
Nm my good mic broke off my headset and looking for cheaper good quallty headphone with mic
ruby needle
cheap and good does not mix
you can either have cheap
or good
and good plus gaming headset also does not mix well 
in generall that is something for #general-media btw 
ruby burrow
Eh, far as gaming headsets go, expensive is no guarantee of quality either.
ruby needle
yes
finite bolt
I find quality doesnt matter as much as comfy for headsets
ruby burrow
You can get $30 sets that are better than some of the $200 branded trash out there.,
finite bolt
I mean headasets are just to hear
uncut trail
Really which one's ?
finite bolt
Not like youll notice much of a difference
uncut trail
Im only for the mic and comfort
finite bolt
Yeah
Comforts all that matters and mic i suppose
Im fine with earbud if i dont use a mic
finite bolt
Rip
uncut trail
<< cannot use earbud due to hearing impairement
uncut trail
Yeah looking @ Cooler Master MasterPulse MH-320 Stereo Headset <<
ruby burrow
Better solution. Buy yourself a VR Headset. 😉
uncut trail
I have VR headset (Window Mixed Reality) no mic built in (all due to graphic card 960 GTX)
ruby needle
960 + vr is very oof
uncut trail
I can stream and play vrchat just fine long not over 20+ people hence why im trying to get donation goal to get better graphic card
uncut trail
CPU: Intel Core i7 6700 Quad Core LGA 1151 3.4 GHz CPU Processor XD
ruby needle
thats not too bad
uncut trail
Yeah it' was build for CSGO game but they took it off the market
So my PC just need 1070 TI xD
median basalt
@uncut trail a 960 is decent
Your CPU is probably the bottleneck
Even my i7 8700k only gets 45 in 20 pop rooms
GPU barely matters in this game. Like, at all. Maybe slightly in VR.
rancid stump
GTX 1080 w i7 2600 4 lyfe
ruby needle
@median basalt for vr the 960 is old
clever furnace
@rancid stump tell people that you have a 2600 so they think you mean the ryzen 2600
median basalt
Maybe, I keep forgetting how much the 960 and 970 differ
clever furnace
I'm trying to use KinecttoVR, but part of the steps involves using KinectV1Process.exe, which is supposed to be in a folder that came with the download from Github, but it isn't here. Anyone know where the exe is supposed to be? I tried searching with .exe and the name already in the folder
rancid stump
Lol that's probably a lot more acceptable
ruby needle
@clever furnace if its causing to much hassle dont worry... kineckt FBT is not really worth it anyway
clever furnace
@ruby needle I was being stupid, the file was under the release section
@ruby needle I have everything already anyways
rancid stump
I've heard that the kinect and steamvr tracking fight with one another, is that not always the case?
ruby needle
in general playing i persoanly find the kineckt a step down
because it limits you so much
due to you having to make sure you are within its limits all time to it doesnt freak out
no free turning and such
all that for a not good FBT
not worth, but that only my opinion
rancid stump
Having more kinects would eliminate that problem mostly, right?
ruby needle
except that you cant use multiple
the kinect has never been designed for this permanent realtime application simply
it works nice if you do animations and such
but else
no matter if its V1 or V2
rancid stump
Hm, yeah I was looking into it a while ago because I'm not a fan of strapping pucks to myself for tracking. I was eyeing up some intel realsense cameras but I don't think anyone has tried using those for VR yet so it'd probably be a lot of dev work
ruby needle
looking forward to oculus's "kinnect"
the prototype showed 
there is a big advantage of a optical tracking combined with the other tracking hardware
for example it knows the orientation
kinect doesnt know what back and front is
rancid stump
Yeah, having the camera be able to use the data from the controllers/headset could really improve the solving. It'll be cool to see people start to integrate them
still plume
Let me ask a question, This is to the dev's primarily, I do believe you have already done this, but have you tested out only GPU rendering/CPU rendering and cpu+mutlithreaded rendering
This is unity we're talking about and I don't think if you know your way around unity, that it should be hard for this to be done.
ruby burrow
Belatedly, I'm using a GTX960 myself actually. And an i5-2500k. It's been sufficient for me thus far.
still plume
I'm noticing that the game is constantly jumping back and forth between utilizing the CPU and GPU for different scenes
ruby burrow
It's certainly below the recommended specs for most VR stuff, but does do the job.
I didn't realise that the game is CPU intensive though. Somehow I baselessly assumed it was all GPU load.
Perhaps I should finally look into overclocking my old CPU.
still plume
If you have VR and you can see the frame timing console, it utilizes both and trades off from CPU to GPU in certain situations, but when things get hectic they both come into play but somehow even with both in play your framerate can still be like shit.
overclocking won't help
tacit plank
If better hardware works, overclocking will too
ruby burrow
^
Surely.
Saying overwise is essentially saying upgrading to a better CPU would do nothing either.
tacit plank
But something labeled "old CPU" won't run anything well unless you double the clock speed and cool it with liquid nitrogen
ruby burrow
Hey, the old i5-2500 is a fairly solid CPU.
The CPU market had been pretty damn stagnant until only recently, with everything intel released being scarcely any different to the last.
tacit plank
Yeah, the market is poor
I have a i7-4790K. It's around 4 years old now, and there hasn't really been anything better since
The worst thing is that it's raising in price, it's like twice the price of when I got it. What the hell? Technological singularity my ass
clever furnace
@tacit plank dunno where you live but that's not really the case in the US
finite bolt
Yo someone wanna check public lobby cause i desperately need help yeeted
tacit plank
USD, approximate numbers though
clever furnace
yeah I dunno about that
cause I bought my 4790k for 250 USD
and the newer gen cpus are similar in price
i7-8700K is 350 usd
or you can go ryzen
and get 16 threads for 320 USD for a 2700x
tacit plank
I'm seeing 3 stores here selling it at 600$, 500$, 500$, all out of stock too
clever furnace
for the 4790k?
clever furnace
You're looking up a product that is no longer made
so
obviously out of stock
and inaccurate pricing
tacit plank
Why isn't it? It's one of the fastest CPUs out there
ruby burrow
Computer hardware is raising in price across the board for the UK, but that's probably as much to do with Brexit and the plummeting currency as anything else.
tacit plank
I need single-core performance
tacit plank
Mine is 4.4
tacit plank
Turbo mode, which is pretty much default
clever furnace
you are literally talking about a CPU 4 gens behind the current one
you might as well ask why they don't make iPhone 5s anymore
tacit plank
Newer CPUs are slower though. More cores, but no programs multithread well, so it results in less performance 90% of the time
clever furnace
Completely untrue
IPC is independent of core count
the only time cores slowed down IPC was with the horrendous execution of AMD's bulldozer architecture
infact, IPC was so poor on bulldozer cpus, some of them could hit 5ghz+, and still perform terribly
if you talk about a 4 core newer gen cpu
like the 7700k vs our 4790ks,
performance increase is obvious
it's not dramatic, but definitely not slower
lithography is also vastly different between the two, which explains the difference in performance
tacit plank
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html Okay it's not #5 anymore, but it's still amongst the best
tacit plank
Only one i9 beats it
clever furnace
and the 7700k
and some random xeons that are at lower clock speeds but with better IPCs
tacit plank
Okay it's 60% smaller, but how does that matter if it runs like absolute ass in games?
clever furnace
and the 7740x
Are you asking me why the 7700k runs vrchat worse than a 4790k?
the transistor size shrink just means they can cram more transistors in the same amount of space
tacit plank
The 7700k is pretty much identical on benchmarks
tacit plank
That site knows what it's doing
clever furnace
I think a lot of people know what they're doing
tacit plank
And I was talking about single-core performance to begin with
Multi-core doesn't matter
clever furnace
unity can be multi threaded
tacit plank
I don't remember ever going over 50% CPU usage, and unless I hit 100%, no amount of cores will help me
tacit plank
Well, VRChat is not. Neither is most games or game servers
tacit plank
I'm saying that multi-core performance doesn't matter, so the past 4 years of the CPU market is uselss to most people
ruby burrow
I thought most games do use multicore these days?
clever furnace
you can now buy a cpu that is just as good as our 4790k, for almost 60% of the original MSRP price
which is a huge plus for most people
there's also better energy efficiency in smaller transistor sizes which means that you can hit more boost, put it in a system with a worse power supply, or in laptops
tacit plank
I haven't done anything but play videogames since I was a kid, and I've yet to use 100% cpu on a game
red drift
IS anyone else having issues uploading avatars?
ruby burrow
Even Supreme Commander back in 2007 used multicore, and would suffer badly on any system that had only one core.
red drift
Mine are coming up Red figures.. :/
tacit plank
The 7700K is 2% faster than the 4970k in single-core performance.
It's TDP (power usage) is 3.4% higher
clever furnace
TDP is not power usage
tacit plank
It had watt besides it, but I will look for other numbers then
clever furnace
it means the amount of cooling power you need
you have to scale it to the physical cpu size
you also have to compare it to the ghz
vocal shard
@red drift Do you have a screenshot of the red figures ?
tacit plank
But usually, I run 100% on core 1 and barely anything on the rest
clever furnace
that's understandable
tacit plank
My watercooling has been wasted, I get a cold if my feet go near my computer
vocal shard
I had a couple CPUs reaching 100% in the past, but they were single core (Pentium 4)
clever furnace
I was gonna say I'm the odd ball out here since I do video editing
but doesn't unity and blender render with CPU?
I know for a fact that blender 100 money percent uses multicore
tacit plank
Blender doesn't use more than like 10% CPU for me
tacit plank
When working on models, I don't do fluid animations or anything like that
clever furnace
I'm pretty sure that at least a fourth of the programs on my task bar right now could max out my cpu
tacit plank
Unity about the same, unless it's "Baking" or whatever, but I never make objects static anymore because it always freezes in the process
vocal shard
Blender loves Ryzen from what I saw in tests. Those delicious Threadrippers.
clever furnace
are pictures not allowd in this channel?
tacit plank
You can only send them as links
clever furnace
@vocal shard buy me the new 2990x with them 32 cores and 64 threads
tacit plank
Which programs? Prime95?
vocal shard
@clever furnace That will be just 2000$. o3o
clever furnace
I don't have prime95 anymore
tacit plank
I'm literally using 0% CPU right now
clever furnace
@vocal shard 2000/64=31.25 dollars per thread
350/8=43.75 dollars per thread
so it's somewhat reasonably priced if you think about it
vocal shard
@clever furnace Put cryogenic cooling tower on it, overclock that thing to heaven maybe ? lol
tacit plank
That's with Chrome, Firefox, 18 exploreres, task manager, 3 notepads, Firefox, Steam, Gimp, 2 audacity, 3 mspaint and a notepad++ running
vocal shard
My CPU is at 3-4 % right now. Not much open. Firefox, Steam, Discord, Mbam, Oculus Tray Tool, Displayfusion, the Nvidia thingy and the rest is like Intel stuff.
tacit plank
Thanks for the reminder, closing mbam now, it won't stop nagging me because it's a few hours out of date
vocal shard
That's a premium feature right ?
tacit plank
Nah, free version, but it's still bugging me every time an update is out, which seems to be more than daily
clever furnace
@vocal shard just pull an intel move and run a 1500w chiller under your table
vocal shard
Strange, I never had a nag screen from Mbam
clever furnace
also forget to mention that the true base close is like 2.3ghz and that it's oc'd to over 4gh on the chiller
tacit plank
Something like "Red text: You're not protected, update now!"
vocal shard
Never seen that. They did nag once because the premium trial was over, but that's it.
clever furnace
same
tacit plank
It's every time I start it, maximize it, or scan anything, and a few more things that I forgot
Maybe the win7 version is different from what you guys have
vocal shard
Maybe. Current version I have is 3.5.1.2522
@clever furnace Btw can threadripper somehow "stop some cores" to increase the effective speed of other cores ?
tacit plank
I think all CPUs can "park" cores, but I doubt that they can run faster than they do by default without overheating
vocal shard
I see. Cause eventually if their boosted clock speed is superior to what I have, might see AMD being an upgrade in the future for the first time in... centuries lol
clever furnace
ryzen has put amd in that spot solidy in the last year or so
also @vocal shard amd ryzenmaster OC feature can already boost specific cores
in consideration to what @tacit plank was talking about earlier, xfr can boost single core performance automatically given that you have enough power and thermal dissipation power
tacit plank
They should be boosted by default then, power is rarely an issue
Since most things run on core #1 to begin with, with the rest being near idle, it should be the standard
vocal shard
Put a decent cooler on it and go crazy o3o
Can't go wrong with good old CM Hyper 212 Evo.
ruby needle
its ok
vocal shard
It's not the best but it's cheap as dirt.
vocal shard
low range is duct tapping a box fan on the side of the case ? o3o
vocal shard
What would fit that range nicely ?
ruby needle
there is quite a few nice coolers in that range these days
the Hyper TX3 is one of the most ocmmen i use if someone would have otherwise gone with stock
vocal shard
Noctua fans :trollface:
ruby needle
noctua is high end
and worth it imo
i had so many different coolers by now
yet my old noctua top down blower kicks their ass
wether its a CrapInOne or Hyper 212 dual fan
i mean, for the CrapInOne's it makes sense but thats not the point
vocal shard
They are really quiet as they advertise those Noctua ?
ruby needle
the noctua fans are absolute the best, quietenes always depends on how much you push them ofc but i can not tell
cus i am slotting all fan slots
cooling performance is 10/10
vocal shard
"Oh, what's this ? Is that a fan slot without a fan ? Quick ! Must add fan ! NOW !!" X)
ruby needle
if you include the 3 of CPU and GPU i have like 10
uncut trail
mm $61 for Verico Element G G330 USB Virtual 7.1 Gaming Headset or $150 for cloud II
ruby needle
gaming headsets 
uncut trail
cause of no mic on wmr
vocal shard
Anything by Audio Technica would be decent I think
If you only need a mic, one of those clippable mic could do the trick too.
ruby needle
i'd be carefull with that claim, im dissapointed by the price / value ration of my AT BPHS1's
anyway. we're drifting off to much again 
vocal shard
VRChat-general. Something something VRChat. X)
uncut trail
im get the veri
candid kiln
watch out Master of Lolis aka Pedo aka @pearl stag will ban you from his server like big white knight without talking to you about situation when your tryna stop a girl thats is like ur gf from killing herself but then she fakes her suicide and goes fully in depth "VRCHAT BTW"
thick escarp
Is this sarcasm or is it something I should be concerned about?
candid kiln
oh then he ignores ur dms
its something u should be concerned about
toga is a white knight pedo
the girl that im talking about was 14 aswell
toga is atleast legal
thick escarp
I was going to ask about what's going on right now on VRChat. It's been a while since a major update.
thick escarp
I'll be honest, man. When I hear of these allegations, I can only think of witch hunts. If there's proof then it should be brought up to the VRChat team and the Discord staff.
ruby needle
^
thick escarp
There was no proof the Salem Witch Trials had actual witches. That was superstition back then.
crystal rain
does someone know how to toggle a loop animation with a gesture?
ruby needle
while there is a toggle possibility i recomand against it highly
it is not synced
if you wanna give it a try regardless:
safe prism
oh toggle
ruby needle
this is the second time today my copy paste didnt work
im getting to old for this job
candid kiln
hold on
crystal rain
i'll look at this and if i don't get something i might come back. kinda new with unity. thanks for the help
ruby needle
just remember the toggles are not in sync
candid kiln
there some evidence that she was my girl
and im 14 aswell xD
and heres evidence of toga being a cunt
ruby needle
what is that supposed to prove? 😄
ruby needle
@crystal rain the big issue is that if you use toggles people that did not have you loaded or join later get out of sync
we dont want to you do anything
personal things are for PM's
not here
thats what #rules says and thats it
crystal rain
it's really just a take on me "dance" that i want to make toggable so it's not that important to be synced
thick escarp
So what is happening in the lands of VRChat right now? There hasn't been a major update in a while. I'm a little worried development hit a roadblock.
ruby needle
@crystal rain now to the issue
if someone joins while you are in the dance
then you turn it off
for the ones who joined you are now dancing
while for you and for those who where in you are not
that is the issue!
crystal rain
ah i see
ruby needle
dont
vocal shard
o0
candid kiln
thes a jimmy savale 2.0 going round
candid kiln
hides it with his worlds and being popular
thick escarp
Gonna check.
candid kiln
actually is a pedo
ruby needle
interesting stuff in it
@candid kiln again... no prove no claims
this is no place for shaming people
regardless of what they did
if its against teh rules report em at #moderation-reports
everything else is not for this discord
candid kiln
ok
thick escarp
@ruby needle Thanks! 👍
crystal rain
@ruby needle thanks for the help
ruby needle
really looking forward to seh reh netcode refactor in action on the live patch
also the player join hitch
some nice things in this update
tacit plank
Will triggers get fixed?
ruby needle
read the notes
candid kiln
sorry Fpaul but dont really have time to right an email everytime i need to expose a pedo
be writing emails all day
ruby needle
then dont do it
candid kiln
hmm or maybe im the guy that got an audio leaked of him by a 22 yr old girl? 14 btw 😉
thick escarp
Hmmm. 🤔
torn whale
I dunno what telling a bunch of randos is gonna do, versus reporting it to people who can actually do something about it.
candid kiln
warning the kids tbh my dude
tacit plank
It has to be a pretty explicit audio to be worth anything, also not a joke
thick escarp
Same with the DeviantArt forum.
tacit plank
I do jokes like say "too old" quite often
candid kiln
alot of my young friends around my age got like these 27 yr old bfs and shit
vocal shard
One thing for sure: This is not the place to report or discuss of such a thing. If one wants to report someone, they must contact the VRChat moderators by email.
vocal shard
If one doesn't want to contact the moderators by email, well... TOO BAD.
vocal shard
👀
candid kiln
everyone on this game just gives a shit when they need you
no one is there for u when ur actually going through shit or wanting to die
vocal shard
no, but general isn't really for drama
torn whale
Apparently you don't care enough to report him, so...
candid kiln
but thats me peace 👋🏼
vocal shard
Welp... lets close the topic I guess and move on.
torn whale
agreed
thick escarp
Please
blazing badger
Anyone getting random disconnects recently?
Like while loaded into a world where your buds are waiting only to be given a empty room and a relog screen 4 minutes later?
It’s been happening three times today
ruby needle
you dont happen to be on the beta client by accident?
torn whale
I've disconnected randomly a lot, but I think it's my whole computer that disconnects from the internet.
blazing badger
The occurrence wasn’t this frequent tho
My WiFi is like at 5 bars
And aside from my sound board and discord program running in the background. I got nothing else running
@ruby needle how do I check if I’m on beta client or not? And the heck is the difference? Cause I assumed I’m running the official launch client
ruby needle
look at steam if you are opted into it, generally WiFi is not a good connection for this game
blazing badger
O I’ll look at it when I get home
Flipped 25 tables since I got way too irritated at the dcs....
ruby needle
blazing badger
Bless rage room
blazing badger
NA if it turns out I’m running beta, I’m gonna just scream until I die
ruby needle
dont do that
blazing badger
Cause literally the dc occurred 3 days ago and I started playing vrchat 7 days ago
ruby needle
you're nighbours will call the cops before you die
and you'll just have anoying trouble
look up for a better methode
blazing badger
Wait no I’m gonna scream as I flip 30 tables over at my local rage room
(Y)
Back to eating dinner
vocal shard
Do like me: Get a 75 feet Ethernet cable and just pass that stuff through walls and floors
lol
ruby needle
walled installation is always the best thing if doable
installation across floor and trough walls also works well
in worst case outside trough windows downstairs is also not a problem (use the right cables!!!!)
vocal shard
Could even use a hose like those to connect faucets to protect the cable outside
ruby needle
vocal shard
Or go full spartan and run the wire on the floor or ceiling. lol
ruby needle
thats the second thing i said
tacit plank
Please let that "porn" thing die, it's from Reddit and they have no sense of humor
vocal shard
#general-media Can be converted to food goodies o3o
food porn is a term which dated way before reddit exist
tacit plank
They call everything porn though
vocal shard
👀
tacit plank
"nature is plant porn haha we're so funny" -reddit, probably.
Well, I'm off, laters
little aspen
winged quartz
talk to people
don't be an asshole
and you should get a bunch of friends
any pug can get you friends
@little aspen
torn whale
yep, pretty much that. I met a lot of neat people just by wandering around in servers and chatting, lol.
And I've only been on for a day. Not too hard, even for a shy person like me.
radiant moon
Ironically it's more from the traps
little river
I need it to be cooler in Southern California so I can get back into VRChat and make more of The VR Puppeteer
indigo fern
Oof, good luck, hot weather is the worst
vocal shard
have weird ass avatars and you'll make friends
mighty galleon
like me
fading owl
or cute ones
mighty galleon
no
fading owl
mighty galleon
that attracts weirdos
mighty galleon
weirdo
cold talon
1Use lots of particles
2have animated models
3lots of emotes
4????
5 proffit
near saffron
Gotta be high poly mesh particles. If your not dropping everyone’s frames to 10 then your making avatars wrong
inner cape
vocal shard
and make the music loud, shouting nonsense
near saffron
Yep needs to be global and have extreme screenshake to compliment it.
cold talon
Dont forget about chromatic aberration
And tell everyone its an lsd shader
near saffron
😩
vocal shard
to be fair, my fav avatar is with a starlike shader
cold talon
Havent seen that one yet 
meager crown
...
fickle mirage
Hi, can avatar thieves steal unity packages as well? I just worked on an avatar for a week and someone stole it the moment I used it...
near saffron
I believe it is possible for people to steal the avatar as a prefab with its dependencies. Tho a lot of the time people will just use ur avatars ID so updating the avatar as a box will stop them using it.
polar jasper
Your unity package isn't available for download, only a "prefab" as Tate said with what is used
fickle mirage
What about detaching the ID?
near saffron
Detach the ID after updating it as a box or something or the stealer will keep the avatar
polar jasper
Won't go into how it works specifically, but uploading something else on the id will surely work. Just don't upload anything that can get you banned 😛
polar jasper
Just open a new scene and attach the ID to a box instead 😛
As long as you haven't deleted it from your account
fickle mirage
Oh right, I can copy the ID through "Manage uploaded content" right?
polar jasper
yes
fickle mirage
Um, so I just create a simple cube, create an avatar descriptor and attach it on the blueprint ID? I don't need to upload it right?
polar jasper
You need to upload too
fickle mirage
Oh. Okay, I will try doing that now. Thanks a lot, you two have been a big help!
It's just kinda demotivating to have these people around
fading owl
@fickle mirage a thing you can do is sth attached to your avatar with text like "This avatar belongs to Ruika and only Ruika if you see someone who is not me using this avatar contact me with their name on discord" etc etc
thats what i do to my ocs
fickle mirage
Makes me scared to make more avatar and upload them ;-;
Ah, you mean on the description? I kinda wrote that... and even added a name tag (particle effect) to boot
fading owl
nah not a description
polar jasper
No, as a watermark on the avatar
fading owl
Most people ive seen have the message written on the back
but yeah
ive had 4 cases where that helped me to recover my stuff =w=
fickle mirage
Okay, thank you. I will do just that. I really hope they find a solution regarding these avatar thieves x.x
near saffron
Unfortunately the best solution at the moment is don’t use avatars u want stolen in public
warped thorn
Yup. Don't upload it if you don't want it stolen.
fickle mirage
@ Alaylle But woudn't that make creating avatars pointless? .-.
I suppose I'll just stick to avatar pedestals I guess
vocal shard
wait
mighty galleon
just stick with being in friends only places
vocal shard
you mean
warped thorn
No, you still gain experience, and there's nothing wrong with grabbing something common and putting your own spin on them.
ivory folio
VRPrivateChat
vocal shard
if i uploaded the same blueprint id with a box
fading owl
exactly @ivory folio
ivory folio
depends on the client they used
warped thorn
Just don't go too far like I just did and... (sigh).
vocal shard
if that is the case
ivory folio
all my avatars that have been stolen cant be removed from the stealers
fickle mirage
What someone told me back then was just to detach the ID and it'll be solved. Didn't know you had to reupload a box x.x
vocal shard
if i upload a bannable avatar, delete it from my upload storage, then report them
mighty galleon
i remember back when there was a problem when multiple people got the same id when uploading avatars
polar jasper
@vocal shard you can be banned too for uploading said content as well. They log each id even if you detach it
vocal shard
shit
fickle mirage
Anyway, I sent the screenshot to VRChat's moderation email so I just hope the guy gets banned. Thank you guys again for the help
polar jasper
My recommendation is use a "public" avatar in public instances and a less private in friends and private in private. Also, don't create avatars from mmd, but rather create a unique one yourself (if you can)
ivory folio
put his name on a kos :)
near saffron
Kiss on sight
vocal shard
for me i put a hidden box in the head which have my name on it
one more thing , if they stole my avatar, and entered another room
will the uploaded image that i used apply on them as well?
near saffron
Should do. Tho I sometimes find that pics take longer to update In the social tab
vocal shard
Might as well put my name on the uploaded image then
mint fable
Why can't I use a linear rolloff for my audio source?
maybe it's the "safe limits" thing that's trying to mess with it
meager crown
...
mint fable
I don't think the SDK knows what "If necessary" means
yup, it thinks that increasing the volume from 0 is something necessary, lol
jovial ivy
so i just reinstalled my pc could someone tell me what is needed so my videoplayers ingame work again allready got flash player and screen stays white but its not loading the video
polar jasper
@jovial ivy Update your graphics card driver
jovial ivy
It is updated
polar jasper
Are you on Win7 ?
urban canopy
Hi. please help me with something. i can't upload avatars in vrchat because i have this error
you cannot edit yor VRChat data while unity application is running.
polar jasper
You have "Error Pause" enabled, make sure this https://i.imgur.com/MzI6iRM.png isn't checked
Unpausing it will also allow you to edit - But is not needed if you disable Error Pause
polar jasper
Open the Unity Console and you see it in the top of that window
urban canopy
i found it but how can i disable it
polar jasper
Just click it
polar jasper
Press the Pause button at the top then
urban canopy
ty so much
oh
another one
Error uloading content, Unity package upload failed. Failed to optimize file for upload
median basalt
Check the console for any errors
lavish mulch
how ?
ruby needle
lavish mulch
i need help with avatars and animations
ruby needle
azure wren
Paul sometimes you're just.... 
vocal shard
hm
vocal shard
sometimes...
azure wren
Paul most of times you're just... 👌
vocal shard
But what about all of the times?
hi
Don't just say hi, start a topic!
What do you mean
azure wren
Kyura
azure wren
Don't mind his... Peculiarity
karmic talon
I haven't actually looked at the site much but, can you start vrchat without steam?
karmic talon
Great
vocal shard
Ok @azure wren
azure wren
Yeah ...
vocal shard
Did... Did you yourself just make first impressions on me 👀?
I've only just started on VRChat so, you got any tips?
No i did not.
I wasnt talking about you
I was talking about Noram
vocal shard
Oh
karmic talon
Yes
azure wren
Like crashers...
karmic talon
Also yes
vocal shard
Mhm....
azure wren
It would be a great start to play from the beginn with someone
karmic talon
I haven't actually seen a crasher yet, odd
vocal shard
I'm on it now
azure wren
So like, you have a pal or 2 to hang out with
karmic talon
Or maybe I have and I just didn't notice
karmic talon
Rip
azure wren
Yepp
karmic talon
Gl, eheh
vocal shard
Wait how do i use the mirror?
karmic talon
You look at it
azure wren
Which mirror?
vocal shard
the one on the home world
karmic talon
You look at it
vocal shard
next to a bunch of avatars
azure wren
Ooh
vocal shard
it's just whit tho
vocal shard
i have tho.
karmic talon
Pure white?
vocal shard
yes
azure wren
Ohhh
karmic talon
Then something's wrong
vocal shard
ok i'll have a lookat the problem, Cya later.
azure wren
Gluck and have fun!
karmic talon
Oooof I just noticed I put a spelling error in my username on vrchat
modest halo
what causes worlds to not load and red avatars? I've reinstalled my game,verified integrity of game files,and cleared my cache at least 4 times
and i have over 1 tb of storage
polar jasper
Could be network issues. As for the red avatars, do you have the particle limiter config? I would suggest following the steps in #vrchat-support
vocal shard
watch out my bois' a person named boneiti crash me and a friend while in the great pug
he be a pc user with some type of blue shader on his clothes and hair
modest halo
pretty sure i don't i just will see people's avatars red and it's been happening a lot
vocal shard
ok so, my vive has a red light on it, which according to the internet means a physical hardware error or a driver error
Now I used it last night with no issue, put it away like normal, no dropping or anything. So I am guessing its a driver error. How would I fix that?
inner cape
You dun goofed
Try updating/reinsralling drivers and check if all cables are in place
Make sure u using 3.0 usbs as well
vocal shard
Ya, I am. Last night it was working. Now its not
so I just get the vive setup thing and reinstall the drivers?
ok I think my usb port malfunctioned or something. Got a notification for it. Went to redo vive setup and it wasnt detecting it. unplugged it and plugged it back in, then it got detected
rough pulsar
@vocal shard In steamVR there's a remove USB drivers button, use that.
You don't need any drivers from vive.com as they're likely viveport stuff which is crap.
Ah, well there we go. :)
vocal shard
All good! Thanks
rough pulsar
So it was a hardware error, just fortunately not with the vive itself.
vocal shard
thank god ya XD
karmic talon
so heard someone earlier say mirrors didn't work for them
I just opened up vrchat and i'm getting the same issue it seems
they're just solid whit
white*
rough pulsar
Usually a graphics driver issue. Try updating.
gilded ferry
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
gilded ferry
Hmm..
karmic talon
hmmmm
little river
Anyone know what program is mainly used to display Twitch Chat in VR?
little river
That's something that is customized in VRChat?
polar jasper
nvm read it wrong
little river
Got it
little river
Gotcha. I have OVRdrop purchased but I wasn't sure if that was what was mainly used.
Thanks!
polar jasper
It's that or the older version of it
ruby needle
its just for twitch chat and doesnt cost a penny
modern sand
opaque oriole
ah
inner cape
safe prism
you close commissions so you don't get any while you're overworked on other commissions
like i accept them to like a month's backlog just to have a good queue but
speed is not one of my strong suits
night lark
is there a way to use vrchat with psvr without paying for software
vocal shard
hm
ruby needle
no @night lark
afaik there is no open one yet
generally PSVR is not a great device anyway especially for PC VR.
vocal shard
Isn't trinus only like... $13 or something?..
ruby needle
unfortunately for some thats a fortune when its about software
if you know what i mean
vocal shard
Gotta smash open that piggy bank
ruby needle
😄
winged depot
for those who have used clownfish. when trying to use vbcable. is there a way to lower how loud the music playes through the vb cable? seems like regardless of what i do with the sound setting in clown or actually lowering the output in recording settings, people say its still loud
ivory folio
try Voicemeeter or Voicemeeter banana if you just want to play music through the mic
winged depot
its controllable volume?
vocal shard
So, how does VR chat go about finding out if people are using modded stuff? Some dude was flying around and someone made a comment that they did some sort of hack, so it got me thinking about it
tawny kestrel
Is there a general list of things to try in order to fix black screens on video players? Anything i should install, reinstall, etc
It's pretty easy to fly without a modded client
There's the playspace mover, or just having colliders in the right spot.
vocal shard
Well, my question still stands on HOW people get caught when then do use a modded client, since I know for a fact it's a permanent ban if you use it
tawny kestrel
I feel like the answer to that question will just help people avoid detection.
vocal shard
Good point
vocal shard
So mods in the game can see people who use modded clients? Well, thats good at least
Think they will ever let you save avatars to favorites without a modded client?
A lot of avatars I see come with some sort of tag on it, usually on the arm, of the artist
undone harness
Has anyone seen a Johnny Five from Short circuit yet on vrchat?
Or Maybe a kamen rider?
vocal shard
[rainbow] dark be a crashin boi, grey ugandan knuckles
pretty sure its a particle crash so yeah
dusk dagger
''did you just votekick mickey? excuuuuuse me?''
then the dude proceeded to crash the whole great pug lobby. excellent!
vocal shard
"i need my crash gun to protect myself!"
then proceed to got their avatar stolen, along with the crash gun
brilliant eh
torn whale
Welp
safe prism
best way to get rid of someone else is a big 🅱LOCK
mossy sigil
Hey guys
blazing badger
Htc vive pro allset up. Gonna return my rift and then need to do the set up.
Also got three body trackers but waiting on the straps
-frustrated noise-
mossy sigil
Can u hook up psvr to computer and Bluetooth oculus and controllers and use them together
Oculus controller*
blazing badger
Uhhhh duno about pace but if u are using rift headset, controllers and vive body trackers I think u need to change a code?
Psvr
mossy sigil
Ok
blazing badger
On the crasher note, I really dislike some of them who have high egos. They are obnoxious and irritating but that’s just me
And also the crashers who are just utter dicks and crash people with no reason
median basalt
That's most crashers
vocal shard
@mossy sigil you're asking if you can use the touch controlelrs with the psvr headset on pc? No. The touch controllers are locked into the oculus software, and will not work without a rift plugged in. You can however do a setup like that with the vive controllers for psvr, but you also need the vive base stations as well before it would work
vocal shard
Yes, there is a program that will let you use them
vocal shard
I've never done it so i can't help much more. All i know is the program is called psmove service. There are tutorials on YouTube for the full setp
mossy sigil
Can u send me those tutorials
vocal shard
Sure
mossy sigil
Cool thx
soft turret
Hello? Tupper? Are you ok?
i swear it must have been months since I last had to update my vrsdk
ruby needle
vocal shard
hey so i have this weird problem porting a model from blender to unity
like i can only explain with images
nevermind i figured it out
signal field
anyone else having hanging or slow login with vrchat
stone current
im trying to upload an update to my avatar
using the sdk but it will not update
triied 2x
no errors
vocal shard
Someone in game today told me to check out a website called something like "vmods" on help for making vrchat avatars
Does anyone know what it's called as I forget
near saffron
can’t discuss that site on this discord but there’s plenty of YouTube tutorials to help u make avatars
vocal shard
What's wrong with the site. Just wondering
That site has stolen content and modified clients, so we can't suggest it
Oh shid
torn whale
Yikes
lilac swan
Stolen content, their staff upload KKK avatars, modified clients/SDKs to name few reasons
And yes, mentioning that website by name is not allowed on this discord
vocal shard
So I shouldn't use it then ? Just wondering
vocal shard
Only reason I want to is because I'm new and they told me to mess with pre existing avatars
Let's just say, some of the stuff on there can get you banned.
torn whale
I'm sure you can find stuff more legitimately
vocal shard
O
lilac swan
Main reason is they use a god damn knuckles in their logo
torn whale
Lmao
vocal shard
Knuckles is the scum of vrchat
Did you know people still find that funny?
It blew my mine
Mind*
lilac swan
I saw a knuckles avatar on a skateboard that was a bit funny, but that's about it
vocal shard
It's only funny ironicly
mighty galleon
-blocks anyone with knuckles instantly since day one-
vocal shard
Good
vocal shard
Sean was a hipster.... O.O
mighty galleon
i was a what?
vocal shard
Heard the dude who made it regrets it
mighty galleon
im confused james lol
vocal shard
Hipster.... Like, they know more than normies... They knew before it was cool, that sort of thing..
A joke is all
mighty galleon
oh ok
but yeah i dont like memes
so i usually block anyone who uses something thats annoying
vocal shard
You play vrchat and don't like memes..
mighty galleon
yep
vocal shard
That's half the experience
mighty galleon
i found this game through a discord abuot making a porn game
mighty galleon
b/c monster girls are life
vocal shard
I heard abour that discord
mighty galleon
nate
vocal shard
Yessur
mighty galleon
its probably not the one you're thinking about
vocal shard
O.
mighty galleon
anyways
i mostly play vrchat to have actual convo
none of my avatars have animations or anything like that either
vocal shard
I've had some deep conversations with people at 4 in the morning on rec room vr
You can really do it on any game
vocal shard
You are a social gamer... Not a casual gamer...
winged depot
why is it now all of a sudden, clownfish's tts after like 4 or 5 sentences, lags my game enough to send me to home... so annoying
narrow iron
@covert chasm So people are now able to not only crash your game but also crash your whole computer
winged depot
thats been a thing for a while now, just saying
vocal shard
@narrow ironis that first hand knowledge? Or did you hear it from someone?
narrow iron
@vocal shard Its just happened to me
vocal shard
And your pc shut down?... How would that even work?..
narrow iron
Thats now the second time It has happend
mighty galleon
@vocal shard social gamer?
ivory folio
did you get the people's names that crashed you?
vocal shard
@mighty galleon you are mostly in a game to Communicate and Roleplay, not to really play the game itself...
vocal shard
Boring as if? Missing something?
vocal shard
Oh...
mighty galleon
yeah
vocal shard
Welp that was a try (O_0)...
warm kiln
How do I go into the vrchat files and find that robot guy.. so I can bring it to unity
mighty galleon
<.<
still lark
@warm kiln He's called Kyle and they're a free unity avatar. lol
ivory folio
there are many robot guys 🤔
tacit plank
If you mean downloading people's avatars, it's rude, so please don't
calm jay
Where do I file a complaint about someone who's crashing people. I have the crash report ready, where do I put it?
tacit plank
#moderation-reports info is here
calm jay
thx
kind wharf
Any neps in this discord?
azure wren
Yo
kind wharf
The game series any good @azure wren
azure wren
Wdym
mighty galleon
not sure, i only played the first ever hyperdimension neptunia game
none of the oters
vocal shard
hey guyz
how long do u gotta wait to upload avatars and search for stuff like worlds
and how do u set somewhere as your home , etc friends home
polar jasper
@vocal shard for uploading avatars, check pinned. Searching for worlds can be done on the website or in game in the worlds section by clicking the search bar top right.
To set a home world you have to open the world info page for the specific world you want and click “Set Home” on the right side. Only works for public or your own worlds
vocal shard
@polar jasper i know how to search but nothing happens when i press enter
@polar jasper also it doesnt state when but just u have to play
polar jasper
Because there is no set time. You will get it when the system accept it
Search in game can also be a bit buggy at times. But it does work
vocal shard
owo ok ty
vocal shard
@polar jasper is there like approx time that you will get it
cause my friend told me he had to wait 1k+ hours
vocal shard
idk he has been playing over 1k hrs
also if you are inactive will they remove the permission?
inactive for a year
polar jasper
If he had played for over 1k hours he would already had permission from before the system was implemented
Who knows
polar jasper
If you weren't active the 2-3 months before the system was added then no, it will not count
vocal shard
yeh i wasnt active for the last 2-3 months
sorry i read that wrong
i have been over a year
turbid agate
Oh hai, i was wondering if im allowed to use or atleast if its possible to use some kind of Unity statistics tool to gather data about performance or if that is strictly allowed only by mods and developers.
Afraid to do a At mods since im not clear about that rule so just gonna wait and hope someone sees it.
lilac swan
Suppose the devil is in the details. Email hello@vrchat.com if you want an answer from staff
turbid agate
yeah
turbid agate
hope so at least, been having some weird performance and want to track performance over time
doubt info about drawcalls, cpu performance etc break ToS
tacit plank
Just don't modify VRChat itself, or it will notice and ban you
tacit plank
I tried comodo killswitch but it wouldn't work
Well, only about half the info shows up, I can see things like "500 million page faults"
turbid agate
lol
vocal shard
Does it say anywhere when new updates will come? Or if someone knows when new update will be (security one, not new camera shaders one)
winged quartz
median basalt
Basically never
Maybe in two years when Udon releases, or in one year when the new IK system comes around
fleet ice
are the video panales currently broken?
polar jasper
no
fleet ice
but all where i am doesnt work o.O
hearty chasm
Hey, does anyone know a good artist to get your vrchat avatar commissioned?
acoustic obsidian
check fiverr
but fully rigged and animated avatars can cost a lot
(~500$ sometimes)
edit: seems that the expensive guys are gone from fiverr
distant charm
@hearty chasm For avatar commissions you should check out the VRC Traders server over at #community-servers-old
hearty chasm
Oh I think I should have made my question more clear.
I made an avatar myself and want to have it drawn by someone
distant charm
Ahh okay. If you look around Twitter you should be able to find some VRC-centric artists. Not sure how many of them do commissions though
vocal shard
Hey guys, I've been using steam for vrchat for like a year now. I guess I need to use a vrchat account if I want to make avatars. Is there any way I can link my steam to one or no
ruby needle
no
vocal shard
Not even transferring friends or anything ?
ruby needle
no
vocal shard
That kind of sucks
ruby needle
it's not optimal but there is no system for migration yet.
vocal shard
Oh
burnt frigate
okay my vrchat works again with videos did delete the youtube dll.exe and then joined the worlds normally and did redownload the youtube dll.exe today again and now videos play again without crashes in desktop and vr. Yay:3
turbid agate
I understand if someone makes a avatar from scratch, fully custom with rigging, visemes etc to cost alot but 500 bucks just seems fkn expensive considering most avatars. But people can spend their money however they want i guess
500 bucks gets me a decent used car here
dire palm
it can reach up to 2000 bucks for an avatar 😄
sleek pecan
5
median basalt
Prices can vary. I've seen decent work be done for 200.