#vrchat-general-2
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3D modeling is a skill. Easy to get started, near impossible to master. I think. lol
optimizing an avatar isn't that hard tho
Optimizing isn't hard. Making the model from scratch without references... there's Visa.
lol
and as someone who wants to provide public content (let's ignore the fact that nearly any avatar in an avatar worlds is not according to permission) you should definitely invest time to do atlases
its no magic
if you did it a few times its gonna take less then 15 minutes
and it easily makes time good on upload
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I wish there was a way to model by placing one triangle at the time. Like a massive puzzle. Without the need of knowing 70 tools to get stuff done. lol
you can model fairly decent with just blender alone
I mean, 70 tools... IN blender lol
It's just... the transition from like... RL clay modeling or prototyping with paper to 3D virtual space... doesn't exactly "work". I need to use my hands XD
Now that, is actually a good idea
Or 3D scan.
if you have a reference drawing you can actually load that into blender and use it as a background
yes
Yeah I used to do that in Zmodeler with reference front, side and rear profile of cars.
takes like 3mins to setup correctly so that you have a front and side view
Still takes a bit of skill to convert the angles that aren't visible on pictures, but that's probably a case of "The more you do it, the better you become at it"
yeah
you should maybe try out google's blocks if you own a vr device, it's freeware on steam. basically a very simple 3d modelling tool in vr.
😮
That could make some basic low poly prototypes 😮
saw some pretty cool models created with it and you can also export it as an fbx and import it then into blender for cleanup and rigging work
And with the depth perception of VR, you can roughly measure on 3 axis.
one guy did an awesome mecha from gundam with that tool for example
Maybe just as a basic "frame", then start increasing the poly count in Blender. Instead of starting from just... a box. And not knowing what to do with it. XD
excactly
in a few years we have zbrush for vr, then it gets easier for the people who "need their hands" :D
Oh my god, Zbrush in VR would be... the artist's dream
lol
no
If it's anything like the desktop version you'd literally need to be an actual octopus to use it. :B
the artists dream would be people careing about copyright 
hahaha
It's okay, we have the technology. Make more arms ! 😄
at first we need the processing power tho^^
Quantum computing. But that's getting more #general-media
lol
Anyway thanks for the suggestion, gonna try that.
you're very welcome
i also recommended you a youtube channel in the random-chat regarding the local vr sandbox thingy
@wide sonnet Grab your output log (If you've restarted vrchat since being crashed that's.... uhh, well the log gets reset each time you start vrchat) and send an email to moderation@vrchat.com and attach the log to it. If you know who crashed you, mention their username in the email.
Hm, maybe it keeps the past few and stacks them as new ones are created?
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
There's where to find the output log
i can't find it ._.
have you typed in the path into the explorer window?
not sure if i'm blind but i can't see locallow
dont
i am confused
copy and paste the path
and hit enter
just like you would paste a url into a webbrowser
but insted in the explorer
or you know what
yes
press the windows key + r
its gonna open a run window
paste it there and press enter
ok
I wonder,
file:///%appdata%..\locallow\vrchat
you dont even need that
Nah, didn't become a link :<
oh
wait
so i am in the output_logs
If you have an image of them that shows their username yeah.
its so long are you sure i have to copy all of it?
attach the file to the email.
attach the note?
they really need to make something to upload the output log when using the web form
since not everyone uses mail (and wants to cus lazy)
ok so do i put the note in the email with the picture?
https://gyazo.com/e2760e6c6d70bb24fac660aa88d6e855 arcane the person who crashed me i rejoined the server and blocked avatars i heard him saying he will trick other people with his friend who also has a crashing gun
while you are propably saying the truth if looking at the previous conversation, this is nothing really that should be written here
so many chats didn't really notice that
everytime I report abuse a mod never shows up 🤔
idk cause they would have been banned by now 🙄 in this situation
Tokyo Ghoul avatar world is back up.
It'd be easy enough to write a bat file for pulling the logs and putting them in a reachable place
Not that anyone ever read pins, but making these links more easier accessible for people to share
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
https://medium.com/@vrchat/trust-systems-content-gating-9e501de487fa
Also steam accounts will never ever (As mentioned in first link) have uploading access. Make a VRchat account and play if you plan on ever uploading content. Previous playtime on steam account is not taken into trust system approval consideration.
EDIT: https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/connect-steam-to-vrchat-account has been marked in progress, friends and such should follow with. However I still HEAVILY recommend you make a VRchat account to play, especially if you haven't had your steam account for too long yet.
EDIT2: Account merge is live.
Thank you Zarniwoop
Just wondering, is there ever gonna be a way in the future for moderators to truely ban people on vrchat?
We're just starting getting work on the drones that will follow people around in their daily lives and physically keep them from playing during their ban. 😛
On a more serious note, the unfortunate reality is there is pretty much always going to be a way to bypass bans.
Well yeah some ways more then others are better or worse
Like ip bans work on most common users and hardware works on more
But those dedicated and annoying few are always gonna get past both
That's why I like the trust system. You have something to lose if you get banned
Before that getting banned only lost you that accounts username
The trust system removes the rights to your avatars and making them right?
When you create an account you have to earn the privilege to upload worlds/avatars, that's what the trust system is.
Well what if you bypass a ban?
You have to go through that process again
Ah
What if since people can seem to get past bans that they made it so that if you are banned rather then you being banned your account general is banned from doing anything
Sorry, I don't think I follow?
So let's say the person still has access to his account
But his account just can't do anything really
Like he can't join worlds, make worlds, choose his own personal models, make models
Vrchat jail
Basically
There are already "bans" like that. Public ban makes you unable to join public and friends+ instances
Well what if you made just like
A more intense public ban?
Then since it's nothing to do based on you rather more so to do with the account they can't do much in that basis
Unless they somehow hack the game to unlock themselves or something
Personally I don't see the point of that
Well if people are gonna be banned, just to change their ip or hardware id, then why not just make it so they can still access the game they wanna access but just can't do anything basically?
Going into game and not being able to do anything is basically like being banned and not being able to access it
Why would they want to play like that?
If they can bypass that ban, then they will
I cannot imagine they would accept that situation at all
But how? If it's a game ban that's put specifically to prevent that one account from accessing anything the best they can do is simply make a new account but then have to go back through the trust situation
No Zarni im not saying that you would give them the option to accept it
I'm saying instead of basically banning someone by ip for a month or 2 or by hardware that you just basically put em in Jail
Creating a new account while banned IS a bannable offense in itself. I was talking about making it inconvenience for people who go out of their way to bypass that
Ban evading is not allowed
Because obviously that does happen to some degree
I understand that but what I was saying is to make a bigger inconvience, aka let's say someone, got banned for 4 years by hardware, then bypassed it and got back, if you simply made it so since they are banned for those 4 years they are put into "VR Jail" so if they managed to bypass before those 4 years they are just stuck, in game, without anything to do with just the main avatars to choose from not even their own, then after those 4 years of when they shoulda not been in game they can come back
Considering that since the ban wouldn't be on their ip or hardware yet on their account itself then they are forever tortured with being trapped to do nothing and being forced to actually wait those 4 years
I'm curious why it's ip ban and not a HWID ban
🤷
Who says it isn't?
Like stated this game is still early access so one day, one day, when the game is fully released and done that everything with the hackers, cheaters, rude people, and game issues will almost/fully be fixed and gone
I'd assume it should be since it's easy to do, but I'd also question why it's always mentioned as ip ban
Have you guys found any fix for Vr chat just logging you out then back in and taking you back to your hub
I spent 3 years and about 50€ in a game that never got out of beta test
The server I played on, atleast
And that server got closed down at the start of this year

Well some games just take a long ass time before things finally change and be released
Like Rust, in beta for like 6 years or so then finally released this year
And it was worth it
Hi. Does anyone know what happened to that MMD dance stage world? 


Probably being updated.
Ah hope so! It was one if my favourite places to chill at


tfw when you have animation block


@gilded haven I totally understand and i raise you with that : When you have NOT animation block !
yeahhh i know the feel but least you can do somthing then
but im sitting here with two projects i wanna do AND I CANT FIND A DECENT YUKI-ONNA MODEL
i just want my snow waifu
What the hell is an animation block anyway 
when tyou wanna make animations hand jestures for models
but you dont know what you wanna do
@inner cape It's an old psychology trick when you want to know what the hell is going on :D, now you know
i mean at least he gave a context right :)
You are being summoned
XD
Into a coolest vrchat group out there
what
r u the real jelly
You have no right to refuse
mabey i should devote my vrchat account to making a asston of monster girls
XD?
also jelly your icon reminds me to watch that anime
Gogogogo!

even tho that character is like my main avatar

What are your final words, kane?
@inner cape ok i'll accept, but it'll depend of the answer you'll give me : how many circle do you see in this image ? https://pasteboard.co/HvL58wB.jpg
:D
=D nice one and correct :)
@inner cape so what is the drill, may i know more about the group? ;)
You just join
arrff yep :O
And you'll see
anyone having issues playing atm?
It's sasukes fault
Anyone bored?
@inner cape i'm reading the rules and stuff :)
Mhm mhm
I never read rules I just hope I don’t break them lmao
“dont be a dick”
Now that’s a challenge
@tight flax JELYL JELLY JELLY
Huh?
what
“rubjelltonme”
I can’t spell
Ruby?
ruby?
me me sad boi
Quick question guys. After 20ish hours i only found out yesterday about the vrchat site account and i made one and logged into it. Now: do i have to logout from the steam one and login into the vrchat one every time or does it remember?
It remembers
Ok thanks. I don't know how to make sure because my steam name and vrchat name are the same
I mean, you'll have to logout of the steam one and into the vrchat one, but only once.
I've done so yesterday so i assume i'm now into the right one. Thank you again
Steam logins have 4 seemingly random numbers and letters after the name (Such as Gallium a43e) whereas vrchat accounts don't. Unless you actually put some in as part of your username.
And that i can check through the yellow text on the bottom of my menu interface correct? As i don't see my own nametag over my head
Should show up there, or anywhere else in any menus where it references you by name.
Also if you aren't aware of the content gating system, check the pinned messages here, there's a link to info about it. (tl;dr, gotta use vrchat a bit before it'll let you upload your own content like avatars and worlds)
Yes i'm aware hence why i wanted to make sure i was in the right one 😃
Nothing gets carried over, sadly. So those 20 hours on the steam account don't count.
Yep i got told that..
Sounds like you're good to go then :D
Yo anyone know Whiisper in vrchat
i want that shader he or she has
Mention me if you do know
that would be great help
i'm pretty sure he wont share it like that
This place isn't as active as I thought it would be.
Meh
It's good it's not as active
Don't want this chat turning into a twitch chat with non stop spam

nice world.. Wing it !..
Yeah, I quite like it as well.
I've been there with friends a few times
It's a nice looking world and it performs pretty well, too.
me too!
follow the steps in #vrchat-support

why do avatar world creators ruin their avatar by putting "made by" ?
I never put those eyesores openly visible on the avatar itself
At least not on public ones
But I might hide like a watermark cube in the head
Just a small one that you will never see unless you look inside the model, showing who made the original model and that I ported it
I have no problem with putting names in an avatar's preview image though
i always love to se water marks on badly ported not optimized avatars
how can one be proud of that 
Kinda sad there no fun horror maps still :(
Mhmm ageeed hence why we need new ones
make one 👌
exactly
As far as horror goes, I think Clade's avatar world took the cake. Unfortunately it's been banned
We could use some good horror maps
There's a hide and seek map in an abandoned school that was pretty fun tbh
There's also a hide and seek in an asylum type of building but that map sucks
Anyone got a good pirate avatar?
So just a heads up -- Free Motherboard; Aurora R4 Alienware; accepts LGA 2011 V1 Intel chips.
Any takers, feel free to PM me.
😃
2011 
Should probably mention your location at the very least unless you're willing to ship to anywhere in the world
^
Americans often forget that they're not the only ones in the world

No offense of course
I'm not used to talking to people from around the world! VR expands horizons so much!
Alabama region.





If it gets pricey, I'd be willing to go 50-50. It's a $300 board.
outdated workstation platform tho 
Nyup.
Mobo manual is also kind of useless - alien-ware loves their proprietary nonsense. The LGA2011 V1 ( -- NOT to be confused with an LGA 2011 V3 -- ) is also a bit pricey. But still thought I'd offer.
Alienware 
^_^;;
OEM boards 
!cleancache
You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat
I had 14.5 gigs of cache until i cleared it yesterday
Wouldn't that make u redownload everything back? Like the world resources?
Its time to make a new avatar BOIS wooooooo
Awooo
thanks for answering me
Is that sarcasm
Resolution or anti aliasing (not sure which) and some effects. I play on desktop low even in vr
Yeah.... :/ I just thought ot was the world tbh. Lol
Just came across some really creepy people when I joined on a friend.
The cringe mightve given me spinal damage.
Heya everyone!
nah
Ok
O. K. 😐
But who can send me a download of the avatar of the colored tropper
i dont think a lot of people find the description "colored tropper" enough to know what you are talking about
I'm looking for him for a few days
if you have a picture that might help
storm tropper
Star Wars has its avatar such a colorful
rainbow storm tropper
I can not send a photo
hmmm did you consider taking a normal stormtropper model and modify the texture or add a shader ?
But there are lots of things in it and it's been a long time
maybe someone else can help you. i have never seen it and wasn't able to find it either
I tried and got a failed one
There is over his head a caption that says Wolfe just another little detail
sounds like the avatar creator wnated to sign his work. if that is the case you should leave it
you said fuck!
no im good
:(
keep specific languages to the languages channel

Watching the CS:GO tournament and they are having steam problems too
There goes the quiet chat
Pretty hilarious
gaben btfo
Im sure we can sacrifice some Lolis to the server gods
I'm up for that
can we sacrifice them all instead
Can we leave my daughter?
Then I'm down


dotdot
soundshocker
thing is atm im sending a really describtive report because the second part of everything is he owns a proxy server and there is a thread about him on steam he's been doing this for a while
and he also deleted his steam account to make a new one
🤔
like its that serious
atm we are in a private server so we have some peace but he really has been harassing her
Hello
Since there isn't an actual support channel to ask questions in, does anyone know where the cashe for the vrcsdk login is so I can delete it and force a logout
good question
I'd assume it's where unity the sdk stores the test builds too
watch out for Yuki B4DA, he a crashing boi
yo does anyone here know how to use sony vegas?
? which exactly
ah, why would the SDK be broken for that tho
Idk
But my account says I am offline but I am playing right now
do you use a steam account?
no idea, i have seen others saying they have a issue with beeing seen as offline today
might be temporary server hickups
its not about time
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a certain trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time this takes seems to roughly be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam account by accident because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
but besides that
i can not answere you that
and im not sure if any official knows 
Oh ok thank you so mich
does anyone know of a good karaoke world where we can sing along?
and has iron maiden?
how do i get upload perms?
@covert chasm who do i email about my ban? i dont believe i did anything for it.
Moderation@vrchat.com @vocal shard
Also what was the reason of the ban? Like what does it say
I have a quick question if someone would know.
Why can you become banned for an anti-crash client, but the hacked clients haven't been a possible ban unless a dev/mod intervened?
I've been crashed almost 7/10 times I go to a public server. It's getting absolutely ridiculous
But finding out I can be banned for protecting myself is absolutely ridiculous.
The last one fucked up my GPU and I had to restart my PC and run a patch.
Because a modified client is against the rules and they can't see if it does bad shit or good shit and #particle-limiter-share-settings is a thing FYI
Does the same as the other clients
Even with particle limiters, you can be crashed.
And it's easier to check for false clients then run checks for crahsers so sending an output log gets them beaned then
The one that got me locked my GPU up even with particle limiters.
And your implying the not allowed clients can't be crashed at all?
There are billions of ways to crash with unity if you know what your doing
Also-- not updating the GPU when there have been updated for it live is a bad habit anyway
Then a normal reboot should have fixed it anyway unless your using a card I know Jack shit about 🤷
Who knows what happened with that, then.
But still
The anti-crash protects against more than just particles
I wish the devs would take it and do something with it in a more official manner
It protects against shaders, particles, and mesh crashing.
@plain oracle those "anti-crash clients" are not a solution
Literally all they do is disable particle systems altogether, or sounds, or animations
Basically gimping everyone's avatar so all you see is a Standard shaded model with nothing on it
Hi, do i need a dedicated microphone or will an integrated one do?
You need a microphone. Not sure what "integrated" means.
built into your computer, not on a headset or stand
like using the one in your phone for phone calls over one on headphones
so basically your asking if people would be ok with you broadcasting you and the rest of the neighborhood through your laptop
I do have a proper microphone
but whenever i use it elsewhere, I get told it sounds worse than the built in one
which makes no sense
yes
Nice
I also want to hear everything you, your family, and the rest of what your city does/says over a mic
Please don't be one of those guys, if your going to talk in VRChat, get an actual decent one
ok
I mean he could just use a Kinect for full body and use the built in mic right ?
Lmfao

Personally, I didn't have a semi-decent microphone until I acquired the Oculus Rift. Yes, I never spoke (as in vocally) to people on the Internet before that. Huh 🤔
Kinect mics..
LUL
I remember that shit
Every time you hear a generic sounding white kid whos like 13
Whos sounds like they are in a fucking wind tunnel
Yeah
You know you got a Kinect mic user
My $180 mic broke when I sat on it
I'm not fat either
Its just bad design, everyone on fucking newegg & amazon are complaining about the same thing
Fucking cheap ass plastic for $180
Sad thing is I'm getting the same one tomorrow again, because I don't know of what else to get
Yeah no shit
buy a mic without movable parts and cased in metal
no we're talking
true genius right here
#general-media pls

To #general-media we go !
Lookin' for folks to review a halloween world I made and give feedback!
e
what kind
also, why iasnt there a dogfighting map already
we have planes, those planes can shoot things, why can't they shoot other planes
I suppose that answer is obvious to people who have made worlds
I just really want to play a vr flight game that I can use with my motion controllers
Overload and elite dangerous both require you to use a controller and have no tracked controller support
That would be fun if done right
have a star-fox style mixed depth aim reticle, have the fired projectiles respawn your craft and either take you with it or cause you to fall
the fired projectiles bit is the one I'm not sure would be possible
insofar as them being able to hit things
I see
that one "flying" map with grappling hooks proves you can have the trigger button shoot something while grip aims the machine
even if that map is horrible to play
maybe have the guns on the ships able to kill avatars like in that gold rush minigame
and then the ships themselves fall
What if your model was the ship so u all have the same hitbox
I've seen a map that does something similar
that anime map that gave you a fully interactive cockpit inside your ship
I forget the name of the map though, star flight or something
Im not sure
all I know is I went there solo and flew around and it was a blast
went there with a friend and as soon as he hopped in my game crashed
Is everyone getting logged off like 6 times in a row now?
me and a whole vr box server are
ok we found the player who's doing it how do we report it
he's crashing a full room when he wants he even said "count to 5" and on 5 he crashed us
i mean he actually logs us off
this is insane he's mocking us and logging us out either all together or one by one..ill send it there thank you
if there's a staff member that can actively read this , even better
we're talking he's dc'ing a dozen people together+
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
should reports be send via mail to moderation@vrchat.com or should the link in #moderation-reports be used ? or are they the same
i would have thought that the link is faster since the mods can be sure that basic information is given so that they would deal with those first
Because it's a VR game with desktop support
exactly like some "desktop" game have VR support
Wasn't it vr only at the start
Then desktop was added in later?
are there rules for discord names ? i though Americans were strict when it come to words like f***
no
@cerulean venture that's a dumb reason
they can call it whatever they want
they could call it Get Fucked Idiot and it wont change anything
Why did they call a game "WatchDog" when you are not a dog that watch people ?
the fuck kinda bullshit reasoning is that ?
Let's do it! Enforce VR Chat! Down with the desktop players, and the mutes!
(That day, the vrchat playerbase dropped by 70%)
basically yeah
and i know a lot of people that started with desktop and got a VR headset after
VRChat was what convinced me to get a new vr set. Before that, i was fine with the dk2 for sims. My friend bought vr after playing desktop vrchat. It really is a system seller
I don't have any issue with desktop players in vrchat (other than a few obvious trolls). But just look at the intros.... A good number are desktop users, who now plan on buying vr. Probably from playing this game
Is this chat still going? Or am i just beating a stick with a dead horse here...
This chat is always in dead horse mode. 
Nah
My interest in VR went from 2/10 to ordered a vive after the first day I logged into VRC.
Vrchat I admit was the biggest catalyst for me buying an oculus
vrchat was the game that motivated me to setup my rift 
Had a vive before I stumbled across vrchat. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Vrchat convinced me to buy a new rift.... Then i cheaped out at the last second. Lol 
I owned an oculus before I knew vrchat existed
@cerulean venture again
dumb reasoning
the dude who imported that loli hentai avatar should be banned
not "Vrchat"
ever heard the saying "don't feed the trolls" ?
but they entertain me by their immeasurable stupidity
so tonight, when i lay in my comfy bed, i will think to myself "How did that fucktard even survive to adulthood" and stay awake all night trying to find a logical reason
So... Trolls are bad for your health?
Cause sleep deprivation
probably better to what i'm doing to myself already so 
Lol
!online
There are 6021 users in VRChat currently
well as long as you know what you are doing
ye ye, nothing too hardcore, just small stuff that accumulate really fast and isnt good for health in general
i like my women like i like my updates. big and slow
banana
About the updates, that's what Valve would say.
Never would've thought people would hate their company because of their approach to creating games.
Although I definitely get it, it's been over 6 years since they released something new and fresh.
Valve has a lot less fans
Mainly because they did nothing for so long and made a fair bit of blunders in the past few years
Okay so i have a question if anyone here knows the answer to.
How do i know where the avatar pedistal prefab is facing?
Like when placing it in a world. so i dont need to reupload and fix it.
Why would they have to do anything at this point? Valve has a sizable steady stream of income thanks to Steam, DotA2, TF2, and CS: GO
But that's for a different discussion entirely
@ruby needle How would i do that? The avatar thumbnails dont display in the editor for me.
under the same tab u publish you also have a tab that says test
nah its been in longer
or, when you place the pedestal prefab, if you have the movement tool set to local, forward is where the blue arrow is facing
i heard that there is an advanced settings for vrchat. Trying to google it, but can't find. Does anybody know something about it?
you mean for graphics? or what?
there is a way to adjust your playspace
but you should fix your avatar insted
fixing the source is always the thing to aim at not hotfixing the bad effect
you're probably thinking of openvr advanced settings
Indeed
ok, what can be wrong with my avatar?
if you are sunk in the floor then the base position is to low
looks like my foots under floor
wish you could test avatars before publishing them in the game
so do i have to just move my avatar higher?
your feet bones probably arent set right
no, that won't do anything
need to edit the bone position
no yes maybe
setting higher is correct
but not in the normal unity window
you need to set the rig higher like james said 😄
so that when you are at 0 0 0 the feet exactly touches the ground in the unity view
i've always just gone back into blender to fix. not sure if theres a way to do it in unity
yes
my foot bones have to be placed right i 0 coordinates?
nonono
the modes in the normal unity szene
and you need to adjust your rig/bones in hight so that it is correct hight when you are in the normal unity szene
and yeah blender works aswell james
propably even the easiest
i don't understand the best way to fix it
blender -> fbx
then look into blender if your feeds are exactly leveled
if not move the whole model up so that it is leveled
with that model, it might have a different issue. the arms look like they could longer than the legs, so the vrchat scaling could seem odd when in game. just a thought. but the rig looks good. might not be an issue at all
Go into a Public Pug
a dude see my avatar with animated shader
run towards me
"I'm blocking you in prevention before you crash me or spam shit"
Blocks me
MFW
Okay so ive tested the position of the pedistals, but ive noticed my vrc_trigger to set my game object inactive for my sound source isnt working.
Could someone walk me through the steps for setting that up? I feel like i missed something.
News Alert! Svelsein is a crasher because he put time into his avatar! Report anyone with a custom avatar!
wait... i have a custom avatar.... shi.... 

Only x bot and y bot from now on.
@lilac swan Can't, i have a Cr4
h Y-bot too with l4G
h4D3r https://imgur.com/gYmnJQq
I really, really wish they’d put active moderators into the game.
It's clear you are the worst scum. Is nothing sacred to you svelsien?
Just hop between Great Pug maps for 1 hour and youll quickly and easily find people to ban, without a doubt.
I feel like I should just dedicate an evening to reporting people to be bloody rid of them.
Screenshakes are my religion.
Nah I wish I could’ve blocked the last guy just now
But I couldnt look at his character.
Quite literally.
And people can and will still crash you even if you block them.
In fact, if you block them and they notice that you have, theyre very likely to crash you just out of spite.
what do you mean you couldnt look at his character ?
and if you block someone he can't crash you anymore since you basically dnt exist for each other anymore
When his character came into my visual field, it distorted said visual field so badly that I couldnt see his name.
And thats not true.
THey can still crash you. Speaking from experience.
I couldnt block him from the Social tab either because I couldnt even see his name, so I didnt even know who to block.
Panic mode?
removes all avatars and voice chat from everyone that isn't your friend
I would do that, but it's too effective
And how do I press that if my UI is gone and Im in VR?
I wish I could just block all shaders
Yeah.
hold both menu and trigger buttons
Thanks, Ill try and remember that trick
does it do the command or bring up the menu needed to do that command
because if someones using a severe lag shader
sweet
they will have that weird grey avatar
and they will be muted
and you need to go into the menu to enable the normal mode again
you will have a big message in front of you to remind you of that
And by the sound of it, a lot of people dont know how to report.
no one knows how to report
we have to show people how every day
well, I should say tell people, not show people
or the damn channel named "#moderation-reports"
that would require effort though
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is there a reason why there isn't a report button in game?
where is it? I've gone searching for it a bunch of times
it's basically used to call a mod to you
which never happens
but that was used before the game got his explosive popularitiy
when only 100 to max 300 people played at the same time
if someone gets a high volume of reports then it's pretty safe to assume they're crashing people
or being a cockhole
we need active mods in game
there are, but not enogh
@wary karma some groups of people can mass report someone for no reason like that tho
Maybe it's due to the sheer amount of false reports the VRC team would get. Having to verify everything case by case to make sure it's not somebody reporting someone "just for the lulz".
yep
if you make a system, you need to be sure that people can't abuse (too much) of it
the thing is , absue aside because you can also spamm google form submits,
@vocal shard Indeed, and you must make sure to have the tools to verify the claims of people.
if you give a easy and convenient way, it tents to get over used
like, people start reporting for the smallest shit
pretty sure it's automatically detected
looking at your api behaviour / analysing the executable / ram i would say but yeah that is more like automated
was gonna say that they should give everyone the ability to detect modded clients but then I realized how stupid that idea was
if anyone could detect them then an algorithm could
it's be like adding pedal wheels to the floor of your ford explorer
modded client can detect other modded client tho 
"I have detected that you have a gun with my convenient gun-shaped metal detector"
An other reason why moderation could be difficult in VRChat: Audio logs probably aren't saved for future reviews. Kinda makes it hard to get proofs of abuse.
i like how every time they say steam users will have log in issues but if you have a vrchat account you should be fine, i can never log in
best is if someone is streaming
then the proof is there
but not everyone runs obs 24/7 🤷
how many moderators are there
@true sky Especially if for example you are... "dancing". 😅
@true sky both drivers amd and nvidea have tools for this kind of recording (short term buggered) that saves the last mines on the press of a hotkey
generally I would expect around 1 for every 100 people
hell no LUL
@vocal shard yep 😂
@willow heart Having technical issues with VRChat account ?
thats what I figured
dont know how many times i dance and someone joins the room with an avatar that says "No Anime" that crashes you
10 definitely
how many exactly is a good question tho
but i think it is a question that shouldn't be answered
@vocal shard mhm, every time they say steam users have issues but that if its a vrc account youre fine, but yet everytime they say that i can never get in
with that number all the can to is close the "need mod" messages.
no time for anything else
@willow heart I never had any problem with either. I guess I'm just lucky 🤷
@wary karma you forgot that the mod aren't online 24/7
Is there a way to make steamvr automatically start up when the computer comes on? If I could make steamvr boot by itself , then I won’t have any need for a monitor at all. Can I just place it in the startup folder or something?
One way that the moderation could be handled is like in Second Life. In case of emergency, press a button to call a mod. If you call a mod where it's not needed, you might get banned. lol
that is a not good way of dealing with it
ive pressed it when someone is in the room flashing hentai and covers the menu
and the person is laughing about it in the proccess
not sure why people develop shaders to purposely cover the menu
Like "O-Oh... it's the mods... sorry please don't ban me 😥 "
yep ;P
well you always had trolls and you always will ahve
i think being a troll is part of becoming an adult. most teens do not refelct what there actions mean for others and troll around with time they learn and stop (well most do)
If we could assign a controller button as a "block pointed avatar", that could be nice ?
i do too until you make a poly bomb to lag everyone in the world
if we could rebind controls at all
@limpid river Yeah, like me going full rage on you the other day. Kinda lost it. Still regret it... sorry. >.<
no worry i kinda reacted in a bad way as well
Part of the problem with moderating VRChat is that people can create multiple instances of the same place. That would require a large amount of active mods to monitor everything.
So if you cannot monitor everything, then you need ways to automate the monitoring, such has audio logs. Which would be a nightmare to store.
hmm cant they try to do some automatic avatar testing ? like run a skript with every avatar and if one create unsusal log they look into it ?
That's not a bad idea. Especially if they could also test for the number of textures uploaded with said avatar.
increase poly count, decrease max material count, enforce atlassing, add ability to hide shaders
and figure out why it says someone's online in your world even when they clearly are not
@wary karma Having an option to turn off shaders would be amazing !
if they have the time for it possibly. but dont forgett that it reqires more then just software. this stuff would also have to run on something which raises upkeep cost
and there is tons of other shit to do before it
not sure if the shader changing this would even be possible
mass changing shaders isnt a thing in unity
default shaders is already a function tho
nevermind then?
that's be the point
you enable it in public worlds
that way you can see the cool avatars without having to risk crash or lag shaders
oh, so no textures either?
Maybe a client side, in game checkbox in the options to disable shaders ?
that wouldn't work I don't think
no
that dude ruins immersion
and doesnt jsut look bad
stil hopeing to see a whitelist implemented soonish
so you can whitelist people around you that you interact with
cus without it that function is rather pointless
and kills all immersion
yeah that would be useful
The things that annoy me the most are people covering your screen with a texture or shader so you can't see anything. Also... people making the screen shake. In a VR game, it's headaches inducing.
sound used to be so annyoing for me. i set a tool up to limit the max audio level
Yeah loudness equalization highly recommended. X)
level is one thing
im sure they could detect clipping
and have like a tolerance lenght of clipping
but after that it mutes the source/mic
At least one can play guitar live without constant audio cutting. X)
It's okay.
It's obviously not at Vive or Rift levels, especially regarding the tracking. But for $200 it's not bad.
Is WMR a vr never heard of it ?
I might need to buy a new 3-in-1 cable for my Vive.
Windows Mixed Reality. Microsoft's VR implementation.
is it compatible with trackers from other brands
The best solution is to try some yourself. Some PC stores do VR demos.
cuz i wanted 2 buy trackers later on
Yes and no.
at least leg trackers
Vive trackers require Vive base stations iirc.
No because WMR's tracking system is inside-out visible light CV based. Which is very different from what the Vive Trackers use (lighthouse)
Yes because if you do get some lighthouses, SteamVR allows multiple VR drivers to run together, so in theory you can run a Lighthouse tracking universe, combined with a WMR one.
Then you have the fun part of aligning them.
Assuming you wanted it right now, you'd be paying around... $540 just to get the trackers working.
$99 per tracker (3x), and about $120 each for two lighthouses.
did Someone mention wmr and leave me out of it?
Sounds like it
im kinda the one always promoting wmr lol
They could really do with mechanical IPD adjustment though. Wrong IPD hurts after a while.
yeah. like i say. rift an vive are better. but for the price, wmr is great (if you have an average ipd). iv'e use wmr and the rift, and tbh im happy enough with wmr tracking that id take the odyssey over the rift for the same price.
but the $200 ones like lenovo are good if you have the matching ipd
prices out side of na are terrible
yes
Still happy I got mine for free :D
lol
someone with htc vive can help me?
It helps to know what problem you're having
Audio's kinda fucked on this computer so no, not really.
If you type out what's going wrong that'd be a good start
Yep, if your room is vaguely square-ish putting them in two opposite corners is the best way to do it
You can put them on a shelf or on top of a cupboard or something else in the meantime.
About a month ago I went on holiday and I did that in the hotel room and it worked fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHei7r6sMao
Worth watching as it runs through the whole setup process.
what if my graphic card just have 1 hdmi port
:S
I just realized that
use the display port for your monitor
I can use the monitor'
fiu
You know our memes too well James
i am starting to be assimilated
Then don't go to crowded places, mr.Streamer
"60k polys loli" create lags everybody.
You cannot
anything is possible with your "imagination"
You should get that hat svel has to drop viruses on them
Strange, I'm getting frame drops in VRChat even though no core is used at 100%.
Running a i7 @ 4 GHz and a GTX 1070.
Yeah, I've had frame drops today too. It's weird
frame drops in vrchat? that sure is odd 
No, I mean more than usual
Empty Japan Shrine and 45 FPS on a core i7 7700k
Pull out a camera and drop to 35
Have a friend with a worse CPU and 90 frames
How do you import a .mel file into blender?
yep
that event is going on and I have no idea what it is
their website is down and there isnt any info on where to meet
What’s the world name for gunters universe place
You got that answer yesterday
Well it isint there
That doesn't change the fact you were told
guess he'll just ask again tomorrow 
I'm a nice guy, I'm an asshole but still a decent guy, but that shit annoys the piss out of me lmao
Hi all
Hi
Hi
this chat is dead
Well it’s 1:35 AM for me lmao
Yeah.. this is the low time for the chat
@proven sorrel Please don't mention that website on this discord by name, thanks.
I want to share a little anecdote
I'm dealing with some family issues right now, and I'm being punished for something as silly as admitting to looking at porn
my parents didn't take this lightly whatsoever and told me no internet and took my phone away
but I can't just sit in my room in silence (isn't that solitary confinement?), so I snuck on my computer like I'm doing now, and talked to my friends
I got so hopeless because I thought I had a way out of this house, but it fell through and I just broke down in tears on the floor
I couldn't take it anymore and got on VRChat, where my friends were and they let me cry quietly and grossly while they surrounded me, petting me and comforting me
I had to whisper into my mic with the volume maxed so I don't get caught, but i was able to communicate with them well enough
I don't have a VR headset of any kind, but these friends I've made on here are infinitely more important than ever getting one (though I do really want to get one as soon as possible)
last night I was actually considering suicide, and my friends on VRChat saved my life. They genuinely saved me from ending it all. Don't let anyone downplay the sense of community and friendship you share with friends you meet online. VRChat made their comforting feel all the more real, even through a desktop monitor, through their petting, gesturing, and positional audio.
Please keep up the work on the game, and I hope the friendships and community created in this virtual space last forever


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