#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 452

ocean bramble Jun 15, 2018, 9:06 AM

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It's the best you can do currently

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:06 AM

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Yes

supple swan Jun 15, 2018, 9:07 AM

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Ok, thanks xwx just worried about uploading a from-scratch avatar

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:07 AM

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I know your feeling

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I use a different model in crowded and prone to stealing public worlds

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:09 AM

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Its kinda going without windows defender compared to with windows defender as virus protection

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You can still get hit but its a lot harder

supple swan Jun 15, 2018, 9:10 AM

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I'm honestly surprised this hasn't been fixed yet. Has there been any word from the mods or devs about something happening that i may have missed?

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Oh and by steal, I'm assuming you mean downloading it?

supple swan Jun 15, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Yeah

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:10 AM

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It's impossible to fully protect against ripping

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Because they can still just change into it in game

meager solstice Jun 15, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Tbh it will never be 100%

supple swan Jun 15, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Wait

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:11 AM

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The thing that can and has to be fixed ia the ID based steal

supple swan Jun 15, 2018, 9:11 AM

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So even with Cats, they can just swap into it?

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:11 AM

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Yeah

meager solstice Jun 15, 2018, 9:11 AM

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Yes

supple swan Jun 15, 2018, 9:11 AM

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...

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:11 AM

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you can't stop that

supple swan Jun 15, 2018, 9:11 AM

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Welp, guess i'm not uploading the avatar ^w^;

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:11 AM

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as long as you know an avatar id, you can change into it

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:12 AM

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The ID steal doesn't give them the model files tho

ocean bramble Jun 15, 2018, 9:12 AM

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Swapping into it is not as bad as downloading it. Because they only have it temporarily

supple swan Jun 15, 2018, 9:12 AM

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I really wish that the dev would at least speak about the problem...

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:12 AM

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And most of the time they won't stay as your avatar

meager solstice Jun 15, 2018, 9:12 AM

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I mean convex even if they tried to fix it, someone will always find a way around it

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:12 AM

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They'll probably find someone else's to steal 5 mins later

ocean bramble Jun 15, 2018, 9:12 AM

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They just do it to get your reaction. They are not interested in keeping it

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:12 AM

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What would they have to say?

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"Yea things fucked ok?"

supple swan Jun 15, 2018, 9:13 AM

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An attempt would be nice regardless xwx

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:13 AM

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The ID steal definitively needs to be addressed

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:13 AM

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They have made clear how to report those users if someone joins and asks for it 🤷

meager solstice Jun 15, 2018, 9:13 AM

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I use the same model no matter what lobby I am in, yes it’s a (complete original) but I’m not worried about it tbh

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Worrying about my model literally in my opinion would ruin the game for me

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:14 AM

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Just take it as a compliment if someone steals your work

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:15 AM

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For mmds or similar maybe. But for originals it is not that easy

ocean bramble Jun 15, 2018, 9:15 AM

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Every update there are security improvements in the patch notes. So they are doing something

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:15 AM

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"Aaa what nice an cunt that nicks every avatar that looks ok stole mine"

supple swan Jun 15, 2018, 9:15 AM

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No need to be rude

meager solstice Jun 15, 2018, 9:15 AM

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I suggest u just don’t use the model in public lobbies, best thing u can do

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:15 AM

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Its a dumb statement imo so i just made clear why in a really sarcastic way GWnanamiLaceShrug

supple swan Jun 15, 2018, 9:16 AM

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Right, you are correct

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the devs should do nothing

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:16 AM

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Being happy someone stole your things does not make anything better at all

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Also-- I never said that at all

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:16 AM

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Getting mad does nothing either

supple swan Jun 15, 2018, 9:16 AM

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Well that's what I am saying

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I haven't had my avatar stolen, i'm just worried it might be

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and i think at least some effort to stop people from doing it in general would be nice

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:17 AM

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You never know if someone extrated it

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:17 AM

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So far i have seen people throwing up those annoying visuals that ruin your vision and or crash you are a bigger problem then avatar stealing
Atleast i find those people more then avatar thiefs

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:17 AM

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I feel like the public/private tag doesn't do much atm

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:18 AM

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It's for pedestrals

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:18 AM

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Private should restrict it to your user only

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:18 AM

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Its honestly how i expected it to work when i read the patch notes

meager solstice Jun 15, 2018, 9:18 AM

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It still wouldn’t stop someone from taking the model

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:18 AM

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Why not?

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if its an api thing it would

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:19 AM

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Dont let an user with the wrong ID send a request for the server to give you that avatar ID?

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:19 AM

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Exactly

meager solstice Jun 15, 2018, 9:20 AM

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Technically u could still use 3rd party programs to just rip the model from the game. U would most likely only get the mesh or something but still they would have your model

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Yes it would probably waste a lot of space on their storage device but there is always a way

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:21 AM

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That's the worse steal tho

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:22 AM

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Still prevents people from just clicking a couple times and changing into your avatar

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:22 AM

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Especially for original characters that get spread on download sites

meager solstice Jun 15, 2018, 9:24 AM

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The point I was trying to make, there will always be a way around the security, no matter how they attempt to fix it. Best thing to do is to stick to private worlds and hope none of your friends r scrumbags

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Well with the model specifically

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I worry about model security to but t the same time I believe that worrying about it to much would ruin vrc for me

amber spindle Jun 15, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Hey

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I'm getting uh

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"Unity package upload failed. Failed to optimize file for Upload"

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Dunno if this is the right channel for that

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:46 AM

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Got the right unity version?

amber spindle Jun 15, 2018, 9:46 AM

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5.6.3p1

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:49 AM

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That should be the right one GWnanamiIllyaThink

amber spindle Jun 15, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Yeah, no idea what's wrong.

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It's literally just a plane.

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Like, a flat surface with some letters on it.

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Maybe just try later?

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:56 AM

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Try turn future proofing off

languid pasture Jun 15, 2018, 9:57 AM

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Have anyone here check out the refuge map yet

tacit plank Jun 15, 2018, 10:11 AM

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You can always unchek the "optimize" button, but it sounds like there's a bigger problem that you should fix lol

amber spindle Jun 15, 2018, 10:29 AM

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Does it have to be fbx? I maaay have accidentally used an obj this time lol

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 10:34 AM

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An obj is just a mesh without Armature

quaint nova Jun 15, 2018, 11:21 AM

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I've been out for 2 month, just came back and found out that I am not allowed to publish avatars.

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Help me plz :.(

regal turtle Jun 15, 2018, 11:41 AM

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you need more playing hours

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just play the game and you should get it quick enough

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 11:50 AM

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@quaint nova
»THE PASTA«

“Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.”

“You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling wont help.”

“According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.”

“Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.”

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

fair hill Jun 15, 2018, 1:01 PM

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How can i report ppl for avatar stealing? i have proof

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(video)

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 1:02 PM

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Go to the google form in the #moderation-reports channel.

fair hill Jun 15, 2018, 1:08 PM

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ty, uploading the video on yt

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(private)

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Avatar ID steal idea : Add a check box in the SDK like "I'll be the only one using this avatar", use that flag as an index to check how many occurences of that said id happen to be in use, if more than one instance, then flag the offender for review, send an email to the owner asking him to reupload the Avatar to change the ID. Done no more drama. Won't stop cache rip technics though, but people having the knowledge to do so is way way lower.

floral aspen Jun 15, 2018, 1:17 PM

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Any security they add would have to be done at the server level, since you can literally just open up the SDK in a text editor and edit the code.

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 1:17 PM

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Throw that on the canny.io ;p

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That is THE place to suggest things

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 1:18 PM

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Tidus the only input from the SDK is an indexable checkbox

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everything have to be done on the server itself (scanning part i mean)

floral aspen Jun 15, 2018, 1:19 PM

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lol yeah, you're right. Its too early in the morning for me, okay? :p

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 1:19 PM

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that's fine ;)

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 1:19 PM

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But kane make an submission on the canny.io and link that here

floral aspen Jun 15, 2018, 1:20 PM

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^

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 1:20 PM

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i'm lazy today =P, but be my guest, take it as your own and submit it if you want

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 1:20 PM

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Dont like the copy work GWnanamiLaceShrug

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https://vrchat.canny.io/ if you get the mood

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 1:21 PM

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you have my authorization =)

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Still dont enjoy doing it

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 1:22 PM

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it's in the public domain now, so whoever want to, can, but i'm sure they are reading ;)

floral aspen Jun 15, 2018, 1:29 PM

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just made a canny post. I made sure to credit you Kane

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 1:31 PM

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no need for the credit ;) you did it. That's cool though ;)

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 1:34 PM

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linku

floral aspen Jun 15, 2018, 1:34 PM

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https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/avatar-id-stealing-countermeasure

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 1:35 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Jun 15, 2018, 1:35 PM

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There are 5741 users in VRChat currently

nimble nimbus Jun 15, 2018, 3:35 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Jun 15, 2018, 3:35 PM

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There are 6870 users in VRChat currently

versed cove Jun 15, 2018, 3:36 PM

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hm

native lake Jun 15, 2018, 3:46 PM

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im trying to upload an avatar and everytiem i press build and upload it doesnt do anything

versed cove Jun 15, 2018, 3:46 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Jun 15, 2018, 3:46 PM

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There are 6883 users in VRChat currently

native lake Jun 15, 2018, 3:46 PM

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seriously?

versed cove Jun 15, 2018, 3:46 PM

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ok

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idk im just screwing around

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huh

native lake Jun 15, 2018, 3:47 PM

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i asked a question

versed cove Jun 15, 2018, 3:47 PM

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why doesnt it?

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check the console

native lake Jun 15, 2018, 3:47 PM

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im trying to upload a black mesa scientist

versed cove Jun 15, 2018, 3:47 PM

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i guess

native lake Jun 15, 2018, 3:47 PM

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hang on

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 3:49 PM

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@native lake
»THE PASTA«

“Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.”

“You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling wont help.”

“According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.”

“Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.”

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

native lake Jun 15, 2018, 3:49 PM

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ive uploaded avatars before

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this is the first time this happened

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and im on my vrchat account

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ok i fixed it

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the avatar's lip sync is a wip.

versed cove Jun 15, 2018, 4:02 PM

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hm

clever echo Jun 15, 2018, 4:13 PM

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So uh, hey. I am still messing with my first MMD avatar. Am referring to Tupper's tutorial, and am currently trying to manually atlas the textures. Should I ask my questions here?

floral aspen Jun 15, 2018, 4:13 PM

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no, ask in #avatars-2-general

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or #avatars-mmd

clever echo Jun 15, 2018, 4:13 PM

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What about #avatars-mmd

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Yeah

floral aspen Jun 15, 2018, 4:14 PM

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either one

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since atlasing isn't just for MMD models

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 4:20 PM

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👈👏

fervent crypt Jun 15, 2018, 5:55 PM

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How much oculus sensors should i have?

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 5:55 PM

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depends on your room

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2 sensors can work for 360 if placed right

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3 are the recommendet setup tho

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4 if you use a big placespace

fervent crypt Jun 15, 2018, 5:56 PM

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should i have like 1 sensor in front of me and other behind me?

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 5:57 PM

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my 2 sensor 360 setup is like this

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http://Shared.DJ-FPaul.de/0096cKn1u8.png

fervent crypt Jun 15, 2018, 5:58 PM

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sensors must be connected to pc all the time right?

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 5:58 PM

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ofc

fervent crypt Jun 15, 2018, 5:58 PM

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how long is the wire

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 5:58 PM

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they work on USB 2.0 tho

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so you can use a long 2.0 extension

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a 3.0 extension would be better tho

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but i personally have no bad experiences from 2.0 only

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 6:00 PM

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USB 3.0 for the sensors though otherwise it switch to jpg mode, less accurate

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 6:00 PM

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not from my experiences

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 6:00 PM

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it is

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 6:00 PM

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it works just fine wiht a 2 sensor 360 setup

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and i have both of them on 2.0

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and i cover a rather long distance per sensor.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 6:02 PM

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it works but it's not optimal, as i said. Better keep the usb2 for the headset itself

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 6:02 PM

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let's say. try it if tracking is to bad get a thrid sensor and be done

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getting a propper 3.0 extension is like 1/3 of a new sensor allready 😄

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 6:04 PM

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i said less accurate ;), not bad. Jpg is compressed so, more artifacts possible

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 6:04 PM

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from a technically side it is worse yes

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 6:04 PM

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yes

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 6:05 PM

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but form the result it can be just as fine

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 6:06 PM

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Doc did some tests, there is a notable difference, now you may not catch it

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 6:07 PM

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what kind of tests cirBaka

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tracking is very VERY room and setup dependant

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from the positions to lighting

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Kind that are relevant, scientific one, check Doc_ok

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but if you're fine with it no problem of course

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 6:16 PM

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still hope i can afford a thrid sensor in the next months to cover some death spots i still have

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with only 2 sensors you ofc only get one ensor tracking when your back is facing the other one

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but generally it works pretty well cirPrise

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 6:16 PM

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yes it's way better, you can in that case use 2xUSB3 and 1xUSB2

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 6:17 PM

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nope

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not long enogh 3.0 cables / extensions

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but the thrid can be 3.0

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thats one big issue with 3.0

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distance

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 6:18 PM

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a good USB3 PCIE card could do the job unless it's a laptop

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 6:19 PM

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nah

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i can live with tracking of 2 sensors on 360, and the third alone will add a lot more precision

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and if thats even 3.0 it is more then fine 😛

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 6:21 PM

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sure as long as it work for you, the bigger the space, the higher the problems tend to appear (jpg quality wise)

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 6:21 PM

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yeah for really big spaces it might be way more torubleing

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 6:23 PM

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if you have some jumping controllers it could be a sign (tracking errors)

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 7:12 PM

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Okay so, Vrchat keeps wanting to crash on me no matter what, I don't move or do anything and I still crash, it doesn't close the game but it brings up a spinning vrchat logo, says 'loading' and then says "Logging in username...", Sometimes even doesn't respond, So I'm trying to see how I can get this shit fixed, I've tried EVERYTHING under the sun, clearing cache, restarting computer, and for some reason it even glitches out my wifi sometimes, so I don't know

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(I'm on desktop btw)

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 7:12 PM

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did you only clean the cache?

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or did you also delete the temp and registry entries?

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 7:14 PM

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only cleared the cache, it couldn't been anything else possibly because it started happening ever since I joined a specific world

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 7:15 PM

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it can

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follow the instructions under #vrchat-support

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the command there will clear all, cache, temp and registry

fast bronze Jun 15, 2018, 7:35 PM

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great, watch out for the crash guns again people, had one black out my windows untill i relogged to my pc

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forced my pc to 100% usage, this could potentially damaged my cpu left unchecked

vague slate Jun 15, 2018, 7:36 PM

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yea right thanks for your deep computer insight

white saffron Jun 15, 2018, 7:37 PM

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oof

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 7:38 PM

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@ruby needle here : 2 commands you may submit a .bat, but work as it is (clean the cache) and option can be added to clean files older than X days

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forfiles -p "%AppData%..\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat\VRCHTTPCache" -s -m * /C "cmd /c del @path"

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forfiles -p "%AppData%..\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat\HTTPCache" -s -m * /C "cmd /c del @path"

candid kiln Jun 15, 2018, 7:38 PM

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Just got a 4 year ban for no reason

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????????????

vague slate Jun 15, 2018, 7:38 PM

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unlucky

fast bronze Jun 15, 2018, 7:39 PM

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clearly your insight is so much better @vague slate

candid kiln Jun 15, 2018, 7:39 PM

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wtf i literally just got unbanned like a week ago

vague slate Jun 15, 2018, 7:39 PM

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haha indeed i do you downsyndrome bullshit talker

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 7:39 PM

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@thorny totem i actuall have a bat http://dj-fpaul.de/vrc_clear.bat

white saffron Jun 15, 2018, 7:39 PM

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sounds like you didnt stop doing what you did before

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 7:39 PM

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but i try to stick to the official reference first

fast bronze Jun 15, 2018, 7:40 PM

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what a great addition to the community lmao

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 7:40 PM

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ok i see

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 7:40 PM

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but if someone is to stupid for it i will link it 😛

thorny totem Jun 15, 2018, 7:40 PM

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ok ok ;)

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Joltze might be worth emailing them to ask why GWnanamiLaceShrug

tribal umbra Jun 15, 2018, 7:41 PM

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hey, im new to vrchat and im trying to upload an avatar to vrchat and stuffs, but when i try to upload it, it says that 'i have to spend more time on vrchat' how long will it take until i can upload my avatar?

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 7:41 PM

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Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also makeing some friends. Idling wont help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

tribal umbra Jun 15, 2018, 7:44 PM

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ah okay

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thanks

candid kiln Jun 15, 2018, 8:00 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429605168825499658/457273112283578369/unknown.png

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wow i literally have an email that says the date i got unbanned

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now i get banned for that wtf

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:02 PM

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did you use a second account during your time?

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:04 PM

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When I used CubedParadox's Flat Lit Toon shader in Fade mode (so I can use partially transparent textures), it ends up entirely invisible. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:05 PM

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you might wanna ask in the avatars section

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:05 PM

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👌

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:05 PM

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thats the right channels for this kind of question cirComfy

candid kiln Jun 15, 2018, 8:05 PM

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no

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why do u think i kept complaing when the kept extending my ban

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and now it finally unbanned 5 days ago and now this wtf

humble marsh Jun 15, 2018, 8:06 PM

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https://www.twitch.tv/martinsprojects

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:06 PM

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Can we also get a #ComplainAboutYourBan channel

humble marsh Jun 15, 2018, 8:06 PM

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Streaming now.

candid kiln Jun 15, 2018, 8:06 PM

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ive emailed them but idk when theyll reply

humble marsh Jun 15, 2018, 8:06 PM

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Making an avatar from a CT scan of myself.

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:06 PM

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no self promotion here @humble marsh

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keep it to #shameless-self-promotion

humble marsh Jun 15, 2018, 8:06 PM

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Oops.

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Sorry.

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:28 PM

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I tried posting on the vrsubreddit and I'm not having much luck. So, about ４ days ago, I can no longer use people's public avatars! I get a weird warning sign. But all my friends can use them just fine, and I used to be able too as　well! What's going on?

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 8:28 PM

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hai

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:28 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/mKlL8QY.png

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:29 PM

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Well read what it says...

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Make a public instance of that room and you should be able to get the avatars

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:29 PM

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Obviously, but why? It's random with what rooms I get this in

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I did!

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and all my friends can use them

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:30 PM

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Public instance as not friends+ and private and ect?

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:30 PM

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I'm not too sure what you mean, they're just people who i was talking to at the time who followed me into the room

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but theyre not on my friends list

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:31 PM

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Then big odds it was a non public instance and they got the ability to upload avatars (so they can also select them from a private world

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:31 PM

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and the rooms are public rooms listed under avatar worlds

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I double checked and it was listed as public

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many people were telling me that until they went in with me and thought it was strange that only I can't use them

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one person mentioned you have to have 50 hours in the game but I'm not so sure on that

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:33 PM

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The 50 hour thing is bullshit

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:33 PM

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this place for example doesnt work for me https://www.vrchat.net/launch?worldId=wrld_30fca9f2-6894-48c2-b447-8c404b4ef2f5&instanceId=1~public

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:33 PM

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Cant be assed to find the copy paste but there is no set limit for anyone to play

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:33 PM

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where as there were 15 other random people in the room using them just fine

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thought so

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:33 PM

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Just need enough hours but we dont know what enough means as its diffrent for everyone

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:34 PM

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Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also makeing some friends. Idling wont help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

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tho, we are talking about using a steam account

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:36 PM

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I have 40 hours in the game, im using a steam account, im not trying to upload

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:36 PM

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and those can't get verified

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:36 PM

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just use other peoples public avatars

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which I was able to use just fine a few days ago

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:41 PM

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Yes this is new and didn't exist before, basically, if you can't upload your own avatars, you also can't use world avatars unless it's a PUBLIC (not private, not invite, not friends, not friends+, PUBLIC) instance.

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once you have the ability to upload your own avatars, you can also grab world avatars from non-public worlds, too

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People were just using private worlds to get around the "no custom avatars yet" restriction

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:42 PM

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The world is listed as public

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:43 PM

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Then that sounds like a bug

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:43 PM

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i gues this is to prevent uncertified acounts to pick crash avatars of a private avatar world with those avatars in them

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:43 PM

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Ah hm

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:43 PM

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but yeah, if its public, it should not behave like that cirThink

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:43 PM

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thanks for the info

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:43 PM

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it is possible to have a private avatar pedistal in a public world, though

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I don't know why people do that, but I've seen it

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:44 PM

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Oh. Hm, but the room used to work just fine for me 3-4 days ago

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:44 PM

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They could have updated it.

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:44 PM

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and random people around me can use them who have steam accounts too

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thats true

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:44 PM

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Feel free to add me an invite me, I'm a VRChat account, I just play via Steam

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:45 PM

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so can a steam account never be verified?

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:45 PM

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There might be some confusion

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:45 PM

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no Apidooda

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:45 PM

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EVERYONE plays via Steam

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:45 PM

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as far as i know not

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:45 PM

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Right, but I sign in via steam

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:45 PM

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but you can either log into the steam version via a steam account or a vrchat account

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and yes if you use a steam accn't you can't get an avatar inventory or upload stuff

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:46 PM

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Aaah ok ok I

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sorry bird walking on keyboard, I'll have to make a Vrchat account then

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:46 PM

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I don't know why they even give people the option to use steam accounts if they result in a gimped account

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:46 PM

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Best to swap to an VRC acc so you wont have problems with moving over friends

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As you gotta do it manually

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:46 PM

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because convenience i gues Adeon

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:46 PM

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Im still for the idea to swap steam accounts name to guest accounts GWnanamiLaceShrug

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:47 PM

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but there really has to be a REALLY BIG HINT

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to the drawbacks of using it

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:47 PM

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I know but I keep talking to people in hubs and they're all like "WAIT YOU CAN JUST CHANGE AVATARS TO W/E YOU WANT?"

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:47 PM

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How do you swap to a vrc account oclac? i thought you just make a new one and you have to re-add friends

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:47 PM

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yes thats how to do it

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there is no migration system yet

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:48 PM

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oh ok. oclac mentioned not having problems moving over friends so i thought there was an easier way lol

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:48 PM

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You make an account
You stay logged into your steam one
Go onto the VRC website, log into there, search for all your added friends and send them a request
After all that is done you can log into your VRC acc

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Well, the longer you play via steam the more works it is

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:48 PM

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i guess he means readding them and staying in contact wasn't as bad as feared cirLaugh

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 8:48 PM

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It's actually better if all your friends, friend request your new account 👀

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:48 PM

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^ yes

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:49 PM

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Its a pain to find some peeps you want to keep added though

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I got like a guy i have not joined for 2 months by now but we both talk on discord at random times

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So we dont want to remove eachother

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:49 PM

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one thing you might wanna do is create the account but stay on steam then

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join them and tell em you will switch soon

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and to add your new account

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cirThink

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:50 PM

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i'll do that thanks guys

quiet perch Jun 15, 2018, 8:55 PM

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VRChat doesn't include Oculus SDKs does it?

covert chasm Jun 15, 2018, 8:55 PM

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We strongly strongly strongly recommend that users create and use a VRChat account as soon as possible

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cirhi

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:55 PM

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cirHi

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:56 PM

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GWnanamiRinWave ima be special because i dont have nitro

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:56 PM

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i dont have nitro aswell cirThink

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:56 PM

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Wa

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:56 PM

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i'd never subscribe to that cirLaugh

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tho i am subbed to the twitch streamer these emotes belong to

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and since im in his discord, i can use them globally on discord too

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:57 PM

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Same thing GWtogaTheSaddest

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 8:57 PM

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no

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the emoji you just used is also paid btw

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but by the server owner cirBaka

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:57 PM

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Not by me GWnanamiSachiHeart

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Also-- pretty sure its not payed anymore after the discord changes

limber kayak Jun 15, 2018, 8:58 PM

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when i search in japanese i get no results :c for my friends

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o wait nvm its just being slow

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 8:58 PM

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VRtrapo getting exposed soon 👀

winter bobcat Jun 15, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Trapman is an idiot

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I saw his face under that mask

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Its the joke 😂

winter bobcat Jun 15, 2018, 9:23 PM

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he's ugly

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:23 PM

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Average really

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Its nothing to special really GWnanamiLaceShrug

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But what did we expect

topaz notch Jun 15, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Does anyone have a photo of gestures for vrchat on the Vive, and perhaps even Oculus...

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:34 PM

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cirThink

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 9:36 PM

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A photo of gestures?

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:37 PM

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I know what you mean and i have seen photo's for both

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Lemme see

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Oculus is simple, just do the thing you wanna do with your real life hand

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vive is a bit more complicated but yah hold on

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:37 PM

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY5fwsEU0AE279G.jpg

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 9:38 PM

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there ya

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:38 PM

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dont forgett there is 2 options!

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the bad one and the advanced one

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Rocknroll aka everyone overrides it to be the bird

surreal silo Jun 15, 2018, 9:39 PM

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hi, anyone seen those super fancy animations that has like 10000+ particles rendered in gpu?

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Hi! No I haven't, I block them too quickly

surreal silo Jun 15, 2018, 9:39 PM

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how do they do that... without scripts? or are they cheating and got scrips to work somehow

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:39 PM

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yeah

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compute shaders

surreal silo Jun 15, 2018, 9:39 PM

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i mean seriously :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnII1SOe7Oo something like this isnt done with scripts?

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or partially

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:40 PM

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its shaders

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 9:40 PM

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looks like shaders to me

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:40 PM

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compute shaders

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 9:40 PM

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Shaders are op as fuck

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Same that a low poly thing can still look insanely detailed with the proper materials

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 9:40 PM

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shader code is an language, it's not TECHNICALLY scripting, but it is full on logical code.

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:40 PM

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yes

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and its on the GPU side

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thus can do a hell of a lot more then the shurikens

surreal silo Jun 15, 2018, 9:41 PM

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ive been trying to find examples but all of them seem to have scripts one way or another 😦

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:41 PM

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which use the CPU too

languid beacon Jun 15, 2018, 9:41 PM

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put it this way, i'm a scripter, but I'm afraid of shader code

surreal silo Jun 15, 2018, 9:41 PM

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i want to render a particle effect in GPU... the problem is that lets say you got a particle system with 20-30 particles

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the moment you start rotating that particle system.. it lags stupidly

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is shaders that scary :(?

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:42 PM

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compute shaders for this kind of stuff are

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the shuriken system is extremely easiy in comparrison 😄

surreal silo Jun 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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a what O-o

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-imagines naruto somewhere-

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:47 PM

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the thing unity uses is called the shuriken particle system

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afaik cirThink

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 9:49 PM

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if you want to get into shader coding but you don't wanna learn the language i highly recommend cheking out shader forge

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it is quite easy to use and you can do a lot with it

sage pewter Jun 15, 2018, 9:50 PM

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and it's free now

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 9:50 PM

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it is?

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wait wut

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:50 PM

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once we update unity

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 9:50 PM

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i paid 40bucks for that fml

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:50 PM

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we can use the one in new unity

sage pewter Jun 15, 2018, 9:51 PM

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We'll all be old by then

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 9:52 PM

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anyways there are a lot good shader forge tutorials out there if someone has trouble with all the nodes

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but it is really a powerful tool

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you can also load existing shaders into it and see how they're build

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which increases the learning curve a lot

surreal silo Jun 15, 2018, 9:53 PM

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well alot of ones im trying to find involve scripts 😦

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with shaders

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like kvant

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 9:54 PM

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then you need to figure out workarrounds

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i for example had one shader which also used a script

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and i got a workaround for it

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took me a week but still

surreal silo Jun 15, 2018, 9:56 PM

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also i think shaderforge is still good, especially since it seems vrchat will be locked to a old version of unity

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which makes me sad, because the latest version of unity DOES have a GPU option for particles

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 9:56 PM

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updates will come

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but its not just done with a snap

ivory folio Jun 15, 2018, 9:56 PM

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and shader graph

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much better than shader forge

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 9:57 PM

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yeah

surreal silo Jun 15, 2018, 9:57 PM

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bah ill stick to my subpar particles for now

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 9:58 PM

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im pretty sure in a year or so we are able to use a decent unity version

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at least i hope so^^

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 10:00 PM

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i can already hear the screams of people not knowing that wipes are also things that can happen in alphas and then screaming the hell out of it cirMini

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 10:00 PM

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i don't think a wipe would be a big deal tbh

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 10:01 PM

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for worlds it would be not that great

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 10:01 PM

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there is no problem converting current worlds to a newer unity version

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some worlds might have to make some small adjustments but overall it wouldn't be problem

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 10:02 PM

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i heard the opposite from the firwst update

umbral reef Jun 15, 2018, 10:05 PM

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Ow my that driver fix

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That is awesome for plenty of people

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 10:05 PM

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flat lit toon shader saved cirPrise

vocal shard Jun 15, 2018, 10:06 PM

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Don't have to worry about appearing invisible to people any more! What a godsend.

analog charm Jun 15, 2018, 10:34 PM

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<@&378256373701410817> Apologies to @ you here, but I have no idea where to ask. I don't get responses from any of the contact emails, not even automated ones. Any idea why?

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 10:34 PM

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cirSlain y..you're living dangerously

modern sand Jun 15, 2018, 10:34 PM

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If you've emailed, you need to wait.

analog charm Jun 15, 2018, 10:35 PM

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Ok thank you.

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I just thought I would ask, thats all FPaul, I just wasnt even getting the usual confirmations.

topaz notch Jun 15, 2018, 10:36 PM

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Hello I am here to murder.

ruby needle Jun 15, 2018, 10:36 PM

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cirComfy

topaz notch Jun 15, 2018, 10:36 PM

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Cirno

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Wtb souls of turkeys

static gulch Jun 16, 2018, 12:34 AM

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haiii

midnight harness Jun 16, 2018, 12:35 AM

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hey

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whats up

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alright, quick question. i have a gtx 970 and can run altspaceVR fine at like 90 fps. but vrchat runs like shit. and looks alot worst. what the fuck

tender nova Jun 16, 2018, 12:42 AM

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vrchat's optimization err

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needs work~

midnight harness Jun 16, 2018, 12:42 AM

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yea.

tender nova Jun 16, 2018, 12:42 AM

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i have a gtx 1060 and it still runs at like 11 fps when i start the game sometimes lmao

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and takes up 100 percent gpu

midnight harness Jun 16, 2018, 12:42 AM

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970 is almost 1060. with a slight overclock.

tender nova Jun 16, 2018, 12:43 AM

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yeh~ it's the game!

midnight harness Jun 16, 2018, 12:43 AM

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hahahahaha

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are there any plans to optimize it?

raven silo Jun 16, 2018, 12:47 AM

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Vrchat only program for one CPU

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need update to 2018 unity

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 12:54 AM

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It's the CPU stuff

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VRC is horribly optimized in terms of CPU usage, GPU barely even matters anymore

vivid grove Jun 16, 2018, 12:55 AM

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let's hope they switch to gpu once they're out of alpha... or better yet, do that instead of making detrimental trust systems

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 12:55 AM

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They're not gonna fix performance issues, certainly not any time soon

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At best, they will try and prevent it from becoming worse

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 12:56 AM

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Technically speaking VRChat uses more than one core, but mostly uses one.

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A lot of the optimization issues can be solved by having optimized avatars. Being in a room with 30 people all wearing very optimized avatars will result in pretty dang good performance.

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Not ALL the optimization issues, but a lot of them.

raven silo Jun 16, 2018, 12:58 AM

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best have less people in world dont go over 60 people in room

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 12:59 AM

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60 is obscene even if everyone's at 1 draw call in generic avatars. sweat

vivid grove Jun 16, 2018, 12:59 AM

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I wonder how many polies you can have before optimization doesn't eliminate lag. so far, I've seen the bar go at 300,000

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 1:00 AM

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Yeah, but people aren't prevented from making unoptimized stuff, that's the problem.

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:00 AM

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Polygon count isn't really what you should focus on. Focus on reducing your material count via atlasing and keep your dynamic bone usage to a minimum (or don't use it at all)

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 1:00 AM

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It's not just the avatars either

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:00 AM

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Dynamic bones is hoooooorrible

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for performance

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 1:00 AM

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Instead we get this stupid poly limit that doesn't matter, rather than a proper dynamic bone and material limit

raven silo Jun 16, 2018, 1:00 AM

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yea to many Dynamic bone and mirrors kill fps

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:01 AM

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We're working on ways to solve the issues. It isn't as simple as "slap a limit on X", unfortunately.

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 1:01 AM

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It would certainly help

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:01 AM

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and general optimization, of course 😄

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Nobody needs 50 materials

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And yet, that is what is allowed

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But 21k polys is not

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vivid grove Jun 16, 2018, 1:02 AM

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I might just try practicing optimizing on static objects. I'm going to be using a wild hunt ship sometime anyway

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:02 AM

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Regardless, we're more than aware of the problems with both standing systems and user's avatars. I can't tell you much more than "we're working on it" at the moment.

vivid grove Jun 16, 2018, 1:02 AM

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lord knows how many materials that has

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:02 AM

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It could have one if you atlas it cirThink

vivid grove Jun 16, 2018, 1:03 AM

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gonna have to look that up unless it's a one button thing I can do in blender

raven silo Jun 16, 2018, 1:03 AM

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cat plugin

vivid grove Jun 16, 2018, 1:03 AM

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got that

raven silo Jun 16, 2018, 1:03 AM

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or watch tupper video on altas

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:03 AM

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Some guy made a video on YouTube on how to make good atlases for VRChat avatars cirThink

raven silo Jun 16, 2018, 1:03 AM

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manual

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 1:04 AM

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We need a better automatic atlasing tool tbh

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:04 AM

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Its hard. UVing isn't easy for a computer to do on its own.

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 1:04 AM

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The fact that CATS now combines materials by default is a good step

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:04 AM

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Smart UV Project is the best that exists and it isn't great.

raven silo Jun 16, 2018, 1:04 AM

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givemeallyour cats and hotox try imporve on it

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just take time

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 1:04 AM

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Yeah, but what about something that tiles the textures and scales/moves the UV maps accordingly? I know that process should be automatable

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Of course it's not without issues

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But it would be pretty good for a bunch of cases

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:04 AM

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Has problems, could be automated.. but takes 10 minutes to do once you've got the process down

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 1:05 AM

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Yeah, atlasing is pretty easy once you've done it a few times

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But not many people do it, because they're not forced or encouraged to do so at all

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:05 AM

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VRChat creation is like any other creative skill-- it takes practice to learn and do well

raven silo Jun 16, 2018, 1:06 AM

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@median basalt back then if you want a model you had to do it manual with no easy tools

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back then

vivid grove Jun 16, 2018, 1:06 AM

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I may need to learn how to do all optimizations because decimating a 60,000 poly witcher avatar to 20,000 does not look great at all

raven silo Jun 16, 2018, 1:06 AM

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there was not many avatar worlds

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:07 AM

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Decimation is not an ideal tool. It isn't really meant for the usage we use it for

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in a perfect world, people would model their own avatars with the 20k limit in mind, but even then there's problems. Normal maps and etc can help

vivid grove Jun 16, 2018, 1:08 AM

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besides, not everyone who plays vrchat knows how to model and most get avatars off the web

covert chasm Jun 16, 2018, 1:08 AM

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I didn't know how to model until I tried 🙃

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(i'm still not very good)

vivid grove Jun 16, 2018, 1:08 AM

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same with me and rigging (at least bahamut)

raven silo Jun 16, 2018, 1:09 AM

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just take 3 to 7 month learn 3d modeling then get it down

indigo fern Jun 16, 2018, 1:12 AM

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hey uhh, what was the keys to switch to default avatar, current avatar is a little broken

static gulch Jun 16, 2018, 1:16 AM

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Im adding a halo hunter

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into vr chat

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ive already got it as a dae

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via miasamo

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lez goooo 😄

modern sand Jun 16, 2018, 1:28 AM

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@indigo fern ctrl + / i believe

indigo fern Jun 16, 2018, 1:36 AM

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i'll try it, thanks

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 1:39 AM

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Despite the talk about limits not being the answer, the devs seem to cling rather hard to the 20k limit

raven silo Jun 16, 2018, 2:21 AM

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@median basalt i agree the material should be limit first before raise the polygon

granite hazel Jun 16, 2018, 4:05 AM

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Does anyone know the name of the avatar world that has a super sayian blue evolution Vegeta cuz I can’t find it and I’ve tried everything that I can possibly think of

jolly totem Jun 16, 2018, 4:12 AM

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Is there a way to scale Unity up to like 115 maybe 120%? The window size that is, because I am having a hard time reading some of the stuff

languid beacon Jun 16, 2018, 4:16 AM

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I'm new to Unity packages in general. As I understand it, some packages, like Dynamic bones, can't be distributed because they're something you buy. Cubed Paradox's shaders however, I got from a friend for free, so I'm not sure how one legitimately gets them, and I also don't know if they're OK to package and give to friends. Are they?

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:17 AM

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Cubed Shader a free asset.

languid beacon Jun 16, 2018, 4:17 AM

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Ok!

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Thanks

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Does anyone know where they originally come from? I see CubedParadox is an Team Member here, so I'd think they're official?

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:18 AM

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People often share paid assets too, it can't really be tracked and stopped.

languid beacon Jun 16, 2018, 4:19 AM

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yeah I just don't want to step on toes

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I have no problem paying people for stuff

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I just don't always know when I'm supposed to

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:20 AM

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I got them from the link in Tuppers avatar making guide. Shrug

wild mountain Jun 16, 2018, 4:20 AM

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:3

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:20 AM

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Pretty sure the main/official download is there.

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Cat... dog.. ?

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Think

solemn stone Jun 16, 2018, 4:25 AM

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hmmm

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anything goin on right now?

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any cool worlds i should check out?

lilac swan Jun 16, 2018, 4:28 AM

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I usually recommend the Beeple Hub. Got lots of great worlds inside that one

solemn stone Jun 16, 2018, 4:46 AM

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nice

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ok, ill check it out when im done with this new mmd

solemn stone Jun 16, 2018, 6:45 AM

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ok yea, this place has some cooooool worlds, too bad they empty

dusky pelican Jun 16, 2018, 6:48 AM

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maybe i was kidding.

royal pond Jun 16, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Re the conversation earlier on atlasing it doesn’t really make sense to enforce having strictly one material since clothing and skin have vastly different properties and if you have a shader that accounts for them then you’ll realize you actually need more than one material on a mesh. So I’d expect somewhere in the rage of 3 to 5 materials necessary to make an avatar (at least one that resembles a human) look right. 3 being the bare minimum for skin hair and cloth

still lark Jun 16, 2018, 7:13 AM

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most people use the same shader for all

royal pond Jun 16, 2018, 7:22 AM

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Well it goes beyond shader, one thing that can’t simply be atlassed is a sphere texture for a material.

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Which are coming to VRChat for certain, I’ve got my hands on a capable shader

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 8:08 AM

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Have the mods stopped trying to make sure the maps they approve are, well, anything?

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We world hopped to a literal grey plane with a black skybox

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Another world was a black box with nothing but a campfire in it

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Even a white plane with a mirror and a single avatar is better than that thonk

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And this isn't even taking into account the black box with the text "NOTHING" in it.

lilac swan Jun 16, 2018, 8:11 AM

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They're not breaking any rules, why should they be declined? World approval has never been about "Your world must be this cool to be public".

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 8:12 AM

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You used to see rejections due to "world is nothing but a plane and a mirror"

lilac swan Jun 16, 2018, 8:14 AM

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imo in your examples, a black skybox and campfire is much more effort put into rather than a default plane and mirror prefab.

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 8:15 AM

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The black skybox and a grey plane though.

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What this means is, if that's the lowest bar, it does open up things thonk

lilac swan Jun 16, 2018, 8:16 AM

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Sounds like it's still changed, even if extremely little.

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 8:16 AM

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Ah, the map funposting you can do as long as you stay within the rules.

lilac swan Jun 16, 2018, 8:17 AM

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And yeah, if you don't like it then just don't visit. Let it fall into obscurity.

long venture Jun 16, 2018, 8:17 AM

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I wonder if I can import roblox games in when playmaker is available shana

lilac swan Jun 16, 2018, 8:18 AM

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To me very low effort worlds like that are a non-issue.

long venture Jun 16, 2018, 8:18 AM

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But the script would have to be altered

#

Worlds can be weird in vrc 😂

#

Sometimes people just prefer a box with a mirror

#

I'm actually pretty confused about avatar worlds

Like some avatars can have a gigantic music sphere and tons of effect

And even have audio that defies the sdk limit but it's allowed

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 8:53 AM

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Its cuz you can animate the range on the animation component

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That is also bannable

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Ok so I build the eye blinking thing onto my model in blender cat tools

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But where do I put them in unity

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 10:30 AM

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Hey guys

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1 question

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is this the general chat where everyone talks?

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 10:31 AM

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this is the chat for general talk about vrchat related content

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 10:32 AM

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All the 3 main chats are where people talk

#

where is the main chat

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where everyone talks

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 10:32 AM

#

public lobby is the same but can go more offtopic and everyone can write

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 10:32 AM

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which is the most active

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 10:32 AM

#

and random chat is the main offtopic chat

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 10:32 AM

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from all

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 10:32 AM

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mixxed

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 10:32 AM

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gona take a shower

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i guess cya xd

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20mins

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Except at public you need to stay somewhat SFW, at general you also need to stay SFW but can ask for help for VR related stuff, while at random you can make NSFW innuendos but can't put NSFW things there, but are generally more free to cause chaos there

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 10:54 AM

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KK

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 10:55 AM

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All channels are to be kept SFW

#

random chat even specifically mentions it in the description

brittle bloom Jun 16, 2018, 11:11 AM

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im so fucking pissed some guy in a lucio avatar used a crash emote on me and it crashed me and now it doesnt let me play vrchat it says my graphics card blocked vrchat

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:12 AM

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uhm... sure

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cirBaka

brittle bloom Jun 16, 2018, 11:12 AM

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?

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:13 AM

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"it says my graphics card blocked vrchat" take a screenshot please

brittle bloom Jun 16, 2018, 11:14 AM

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it says it is blocked from accessing graphics hardware

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its a windows notification thing

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so idk how to screen shot it

#

i can call you and share screens

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:15 AM

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just take a screenshot

brittle bloom Jun 16, 2018, 11:15 AM

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i just said i didnt know how to take a screenshot

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:15 AM

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press the print key and paste the screenshot you just created inm your clipboard to paint then upload it to a image hoster like imgur or what not

brittle bloom Jun 16, 2018, 11:16 AM

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where is the print key?

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:16 AM

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it... is labled like that cirBaka

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might be shorter like Prt Sc or something

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basically "Print Screen"

brittle bloom Jun 16, 2018, 11:18 AM

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i did print screen my screen flashed and nothing popped up

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:18 AM

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open paint and paste it using ctrl + v

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it should be in your clipboard now

brittle bloom Jun 16, 2018, 11:19 AM

#

it isd

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im about to send a link

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i sent it in dms

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:20 AM

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cirREE

brittle bloom Jun 16, 2018, 11:20 AM

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?

severe wind Jun 16, 2018, 11:20 AM

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hi

brittle bloom Jun 16, 2018, 11:21 AM

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do you know how to fix it fpaul?

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:21 AM

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i said to upload it an post it here

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http://Shared.DJ-FPaul.de/b32aDaO1ub.png

brittle bloom Jun 16, 2018, 11:21 AM

#

oh

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:21 AM

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interesting tho. you're not lying cirBaka

brittle bloom Jun 16, 2018, 11:21 AM

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yeah

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:22 AM

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please reboot your PC

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which i guess you have not done yet?

brittle bloom Jun 16, 2018, 11:22 AM

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ive not done

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:22 AM

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thats the number one thing to do 😉

#

the block might have been a thing to prevent graphics driver crashing

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no idea about how windows 10 works in that regard

severe wind Jun 16, 2018, 11:25 AM

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Hello how long will it take until I can upload Avatars with Unity?

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:25 AM

#

Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also makeing some friends. Idling wont help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

severe wind Jun 16, 2018, 11:26 AM

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thank you

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well I alrady got 11 hours in the Game tho xD

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:27 AM

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thats nothing 😛

severe wind Jun 16, 2018, 11:27 AM

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at least someting

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Sorry that I have school and stuff xd

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:27 AM

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if you have school donjt you have a full afternoon for playing? cirBaka

severe wind Jun 16, 2018, 11:28 AM

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sorry that I like to play other Games xD

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:28 AM

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😮

severe wind Jun 16, 2018, 11:28 AM

#

and what about Homework

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and exams

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:28 AM

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screw homework

severe wind Jun 16, 2018, 11:28 AM

#

no

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Homework is important

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:29 AM

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homework is a joke 😄

severe wind Jun 16, 2018, 11:29 AM

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I know xD

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:29 AM

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im not wasting my freetime with school when i got to school for that

severe wind Jun 16, 2018, 11:29 AM

#

but still I want a good grade

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 11:49 AM

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Homework does almost nothing to your general success, and no one asks if you have done homework to accept you into their schools...

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:50 AM

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the issue is teachers giving bad notes for it

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 11:50 AM

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They act like it matters

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Even though they do nothing about it unless it's pointed out

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:51 AM

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cirThink what

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when homework is checked and you dont have it and the teacher gives you a bad note for not having done it then that is bad and matters

severe wind Jun 16, 2018, 11:51 AM

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yep

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 11:52 AM

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I did most of my homework, except when for some times when I was sick, or wasn't focused enough to do em

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But I don't count those because I called in sick, they forgot I was a student in that class, or I just said that I'll do them as extras

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And so, to me homework seems pointless

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:54 AM

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pointless (for some) but doing them still matters

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even if you didnt have bad influence from the checks getting bad notes is possible and likely for others if you refuse to do them regularely.

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 11:55 AM

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I did them often enough

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But again, not all of em

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Maybe like 38% of homework that I was given I didn't do

severe wind Jun 16, 2018, 12:00 PM

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well

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xD

pearl jasper Jun 16, 2018, 12:34 PM

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hey in the patch notes it states "Many safety and security fixes have been implemented" does this mean no more avatar stealing or what

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 12:37 PM

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there is no info on details

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but i've still seen complains about stealing i think cirThink

muted canyon Jun 16, 2018, 12:47 PM

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Hi I've sometimes streamers have something like a twitch window around their arm for quick access. Which app would that be?

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 12:50 PM

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there is multiple ways, the first would be OpenVRDesktopDisplay Portal or OVRDrop

muted canyon Jun 16, 2018, 12:50 PM

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Ah "Open VR Desktop Display Portal" found it thanks 😅

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 12:50 PM

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the sencond would be OpenVRTwitchChat which is a bit like them but has the twithc thing integrated and doesnt need to run a window capture

#

if its just twitch i would recommend the second performance wise for vrchat

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 12:50 PM

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And it's free

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hahaa

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 12:51 PM

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OVRDDP does unfortunaly only run on CPU (while OVP Drop does have GPU capabilities on W10)

muted canyon Jun 16, 2018, 12:52 PM

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would be for discord, but hm I want every performance I can get

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 12:52 PM

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if its for discord then you only have OVDDP or OVRDrop

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OVR drop is the "newer version"

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but costs money

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 12:52 PM

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Is it the same developer?

brazen vale Jun 16, 2018, 12:54 PM

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Blind!

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002hug

severe wind Jun 16, 2018, 1:04 PM

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whats up

idle cipher Jun 16, 2018, 1:15 PM

#

!online

floral flaxBOT Jun 16, 2018, 1:15 PM

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There are 6388 users in VRChat currently

twilit crest Jun 16, 2018, 2:04 PM

#

!online

cold talon Jun 16, 2018, 2:31 PM

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!offline

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 2:32 PM

#

!inline

cold talon Jun 16, 2018, 2:42 PM

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!outline

ocean bramble Jun 16, 2018, 2:55 PM

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!frontline

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 3:02 PM

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!delayline

jaunty apex Jun 16, 2018, 3:06 PM

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!line

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 3:06 PM

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sory dot dot

#

but you disqualify from using line commands

#

cirBaka

jaunty apex Jun 16, 2018, 3:06 PM

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why is that

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you dont like dots/

#

?

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 3:07 PM

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i do

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but dot's and lines are not compatible cirBaka

jaunty apex Jun 16, 2018, 3:07 PM

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!dotine

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see doesnt work, has to be a line

pulsar solar Jun 16, 2018, 3:44 PM

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eu!luo¡

cold talon Jun 16, 2018, 4:12 PM

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!dotedline

pallid escarp Jun 16, 2018, 4:23 PM

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hello

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:23 PM

#

Howdy!

pallid escarp Jun 16, 2018, 4:24 PM

#

sup?

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:24 PM

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Just managed to get onto a pc

#

and you?

pallid escarp Jun 16, 2018, 4:25 PM

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just trying to rig a character

supple bison Jun 16, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Just waiting for the day @vocal shard streams vrchat OMEGALUL

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:27 PM

#

thats going to happen?!

supple bison Jun 16, 2018, 4:27 PM

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Yea but first he needs all the infinity bans

pallid escarp Jun 16, 2018, 4:28 PM

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cool i guess

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:29 PM

#

he already got 1 week and 1 MONTH whats next?!

languid beacon Jun 16, 2018, 4:30 PM

#

OVRDRop is nice very and fully featured, i just wish you could could bind displays to arm bones but those are special to VRChat not OpenVR

#

So hands only

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I just offset mine to sort of look like they’re coming from my arm instead

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:31 PM

#

vrpill

#

HE ARRIVED!

languid beacon Jun 16, 2018, 4:32 PM

#

There I go responding to a very old message and then seeing all the chat scroll to current

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:32 PM

#

Lag?

candid kiln Jun 16, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Thankyou Admins for unbanning me

languid beacon Jun 16, 2018, 4:32 PM

#

No just stupidity

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:33 PM

#

HE LEFT 👀

languid beacon Jun 16, 2018, 4:34 PM

#

So I once changed my height And got logged out in a sequence that looks identical to how it looks when someone gets banned from VR chat on Twitch

#

Scared the crap out of me

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:34 PM

#

the twitch streamers get a special ban screen?

#

not fair

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 4:34 PM

#

Wat?

languid beacon Jun 16, 2018, 4:34 PM

#

No they don’t I just know it getting banned looks like

#

You suddenly go to a loading screen and then the login screen

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:35 PM

#

well usually a ban looks like "you were banned for (period of time)
cause: (cause here)"

#

lol that's a softlock

languid beacon Jun 16, 2018, 4:35 PM

#

That’s when you try to login

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 4:35 PM

#

The random logouts happen sometimes when you lose connection

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:35 PM

#

it means your connection is bad

#

i get it all the time because I use dialup

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 4:36 PM

#

You suddenly get greeted with the logging in screen while in an instance for example

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:36 PM

#

yes

languid beacon Jun 16, 2018, 4:36 PM

#

You use VR chat with dialup

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:36 PM

#

the game stops and your viewpoint is reset and the vrchat loading icon show up

#

i dont have wifi

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will get some soon

languid beacon Jun 16, 2018, 4:37 PM

#

I mean Wi-Fi won’t make you not have Dailup

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:37 PM

#

don't ask how I stream stuff because I don't emoji

languid beacon Jun 16, 2018, 4:37 PM

#

It will just make your dialup wireless

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:38 PM

#

no

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I'll stop using it

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and not pay subscriptions anymore

#

so the company will stop my service

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 4:38 PM

#

dailup internet in 2k18 GWnanamiSawakoWut

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:38 PM

#

I'll just swap to WiFi subscriptions

#

third world

#

we don't exactly have vrs here too

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 4:39 PM

#

It was more of a joke anywa

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:39 PM

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I'm planning to get one soon tho, from ubuy

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well that was a long message wasted

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 4:41 PM

#

Eh- i have often that i write something and remove it

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:41 PM

#

soon

#

let's hope the computer mall has a 1050ti

#

i dont know any other graphics card

#

except for the 1060

#

but that can never exist

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:42 PM

#

Wat

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:42 PM

#

as in

exist to buy

#

as in be in stock

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:43 PM

#

I don't recommend a 1050ti for vr, not a good experience

steep turret Jun 16, 2018, 4:43 PM

#

ghoost ❤️

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:43 PM

#

I know for sure, because I have it

#

Hai taco boye

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:43 PM

#

well is the 1060 worth shipping

steep turret Jun 16, 2018, 4:43 PM

#

whaddup pizza girl

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:43 PM

#

they say there is a major performance boost

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 4:43 PM

#

Well depends how much you pay more

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:44 PM

#

I'm hating the internet rn cause I can't find any good sound effects for my weapon

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:44 PM

#

look on soundbible

steep turret Jun 16, 2018, 4:44 PM

#

if you can find a chicken noise, I recommend that

#

my sources tell me that's the only way to go

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:44 PM

#

Glare

#

No.

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:45 PM

#

good thing is that they put the copyright usages with each sound so you know what you use

#

helps to dodge a potential lawsuit

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 4:45 PM

#

Ghost just rip it from an video GWnanamiRankoPog

#

Ezpz

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:46 PM

#

That's the thing, I can't find even videos

steep turret Jun 16, 2018, 4:46 PM

#

ghoost you're right that was a bad suggestion. definitely gotta be a turkey call

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 4:47 PM

#

Also ghost when ya streaming again

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:47 PM

#

what kind of weapon is it?

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:47 PM

#

Sniper

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:48 PM

#

don't tell me its a chicken invasion's lightning beam thats my idea

#

oh

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:48 PM

#

Looking for some kind of futuristic sound

steep turret Jun 16, 2018, 4:48 PM

#

future turkey

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:48 PM

#

well you can look at the files used in c&c tiberium series

#

it's a p futuristic game

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 4:49 PM

#

Dont ignore me GWtogaTheSaddest

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:49 PM

#

Idk Oclac

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:49 PM

#

or just use a general beam sound from the contra laser general's second tier defense unit

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:49 PM

#

I really couldn't handle the daily regime

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:49 PM

#

it sounds futuristic to me

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 4:52 PM

#

GWtogaTheSaddest

#

Make it a less strickt thingy then

#

Dont force it upon yaself

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:53 PM

#

Ye, I figured

#

But only got a week left so I'll try to do yeet

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 4:54 PM

#

Gonna feel odd with you not hella active

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:54 PM

#

:<

#

Hold up

#

I know what to do

#

One of my favourite animes has dope sound effects

#

Gotta rewatch it now

#

Cause no one ripped it

#

Ree

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:58 PM

#

which anime?

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 4:58 PM

#

What is the name again from the VRC component ya need to add to avatars GWnanamiNotLikePapika

#

avatar descriptor?

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:58 PM

#

yes

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:58 PM

#

yes

#

it has all those settings too

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 4:59 PM

#

Arpeggio of Blue Steel

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 4:59 PM

#

oh

#

never heard of it

#

guess I should watch it sometimes

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 4:59 PM

#

Why has my avatar added more poligons on his own GWrainTohruREEE

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 5:00 PM

#

Most of my favourite animes are really unpopular so getting art and sound effects is tough cause no one makes it

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 5:02 PM

#

try using remove doubles in blender

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 5:02 PM

#

Could just possibly rewatch the last episode as it has that massive mech with a ton of stuff happening

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 5:03 PM

#

Eh i just removed the shoe laces

#

As they are 99% under my pants anyway

#

But its first time for me to eat--
Only ate a single bread piece this morning and nothing else while its already 7 pm

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 5:08 PM

#

oof

#

go eat pls

#

nutrition is a huge factor in being awake in vrchat and not making noises and slumping half dead till your controllers run out of charge and you disconnect

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 5:09 PM

#

Why do characters have to talk during one of the most epic chare up scenes reeee

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 5:09 PM

#

use voice remover ghoost

#

it works sometimes and isn't perfect

#

but will help

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 5:27 PM

#

Well rin i had to burry my dog today so that might explain why i ate even worse then normal today

steep turret Jun 16, 2018, 5:54 PM

#

my condolences oclac

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 5:57 PM

#

Just use Lanis Space duck sound, that always does the job

#

Or just use a barrage of Nî

grave mesa Jun 16, 2018, 6:26 PM

#

So, is there any way to deal with the client crashers? I seem to be running into them constantly now. Is the only solution really turning off all avatars and muting everyone? Sorta kills the fun.

arctic cradle Jun 16, 2018, 6:29 PM

#

Could try reporting them if you can catch their name

#

If they catch them, maybe an ip ban can be issued

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 6:31 PM

#

If you crash do not reboot the game
First get the loggs and email them towards moderation@vrchat.com so they can find the user and ban them

arctic cradle Jun 16, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

@umbral reef thanks for the tip, I didn’t even know you could do that upon crashing

#

Def gonna start reporting

umbral reef Jun 16, 2018, 6:35 PM

#

Someone else will prob explain how to get the loggs and ect in a second

#

I cant recall and am today not willingly to look it up again

ivory folio Jun 16, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

!outputlog

floral flaxBOT Jun 16, 2018, 6:39 PM

#

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 6:42 PM

#

If you get crashed again use this link...

#

And do not relogin after a crash because your output log will get reset

modern kernel Jun 16, 2018, 6:58 PM

#

Hi, anyone know where to change the avator measure in unity?

#

0.0

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 7:08 PM

#

@modern kernel As in, the scale/size?

tranquil sequoia Jun 16, 2018, 7:17 PM

#

Has anyone had issues with the SDK recognizing their play time when logging in through steam to play?

#

I'm close to 100h and still getting this https://gyazo.com/987790581ce32a044f9da15d68d431f9

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 7:17 PM

#

steam cant get verified

#

your vrchat account counts

#

and on that time is also not the factor

#

Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also makeing some friends. Idling wont help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

tranquil sequoia Jun 16, 2018, 7:18 PM

#

Thanks for the info

#

I hope they integrate steam api in the future for the hours

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 7:19 PM

#

actually steam is more supposed to be a guest account

tranquil sequoia Jun 16, 2018, 7:22 PM

#

Thanks for sharing

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 8:28 PM

#

Hi new to the VR world just got my HP MR set. And started playing VRchat. im having issues with lag and being cutoff everysecond.

hazy river Jun 16, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

does anyone know if it is possible to download models from lolking.net?

inner cape Jun 16, 2018, 8:38 PM

#

Negative.

hazy river Jun 16, 2018, 8:40 PM

#

are there any other sites i can get league models from?

surreal bobcat Jun 16, 2018, 9:02 PM

#

Question! What does "Please add a scene descriptor or avatar descriptor to your project." mean exactly?

#

I'm a complete unity noob

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 9:15 PM

#

i really dont know how much more descriptive that error message could be cirBaka

white saffron Jun 16, 2018, 9:16 PM

#

think

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 9:32 PM

#

cirThink

surreal bobcat Jun 16, 2018, 9:52 PM

#

Thank you for the reply!

#

@viral stratus

vocal shard Jun 16, 2018, 10:56 PM

#

!online

floral flaxBOT Jun 16, 2018, 10:56 PM

#

There are 6300 users in VRChat currently

kindred glacier Jun 16, 2018, 11:14 PM

#

uh

#

why do i sometimes randomly go back to my main house?

winged quartz Jun 16, 2018, 11:14 PM

#

hax, server issues or internet connection

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:15 PM

#

instable connection is a common cause

winged quartz Jun 16, 2018, 11:15 PM

#

Yes

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:15 PM

#

maybe take a look at this

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https://support.streamlabs.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004232954-How-to-solve-IPv6-issues?mobile_site=true

winged quartz Jun 16, 2018, 11:15 PM

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But people can kick you from a server now

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:15 PM

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but kick's should come with a message cirThink

kindred glacier Jun 16, 2018, 11:16 PM

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when i get kicked i dont see them while voting is still

winged quartz Jun 16, 2018, 11:16 PM

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Nope

kindred glacier Jun 16, 2018, 11:16 PM

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active

winged quartz Jun 16, 2018, 11:16 PM

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They can kick you back home with no alert

kindred glacier Jun 16, 2018, 11:16 PM

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but the same happened to my buddy aswell

winged quartz Jun 16, 2018, 11:16 PM

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It's a new hack I guess

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Also

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Deactivate ipv6

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My internet connection sometimes just die because of it

ruby needle Jun 16, 2018, 11:19 PM

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you shouldn't deactiavte it completely

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it will cause issues on other ends

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ipv6 is the new standart that is getting more and more implemented

rocky blaze Jun 16, 2018, 11:27 PM

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i had something on my vrchat that i wasn't supposed to

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there was a muted mic icon, a grey circle with LIVE next to it and 2 symbols of added or number of friends on

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at the top right of my screen

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 11:29 PM

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Probably just some guy with a shader

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We get that like every 5 minutes in this chat lol

rocky blaze Jun 16, 2018, 11:30 PM

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but i went back to my home and it was still there

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but after restart game it was gone and went to the same world i noticed it

median basalt Jun 16, 2018, 11:30 PM

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Maybe it's a hack or something, people with modded clients can do a lot of bad stuff

gritty sonnet Jun 17, 2018, 12:09 AM

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Um

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There's a video I just got sent

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Of a hacker

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https://streamable.com/da2b5

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What is this

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It kicks the people he shoots

ivory folio Jun 17, 2018, 12:16 AM

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wow that's a new level of crashing

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aimbot in vrchat lul

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how old is that video?

gritty sonnet Jun 17, 2018, 12:21 AM

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I just got it today

ruby needle Jun 17, 2018, 12:21 AM

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hacks but doesn't know how to crack bandicam 😄

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 12:28 AM

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People actually hack in a social game

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Lmao

gritty sonnet Jun 17, 2018, 12:29 AM

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Ikr

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 12:32 AM

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has blocked avatars by default

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Lmao he has a potato pc

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And hes also in desktop

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OMG

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The state of hackers

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 12:36 AM

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About the video : another one that will come around saying " I don't understand, i see banned, then banned for 4 years, i've done nothing". Anyways, as i said already if the server logs are verbose enough about the kind of disconnect these users suffer, a simple algo could help to reveal and put an evident flag over the hacker "script kiddies" heads. IF X is always present when A B C...+n crash for Z reason in V amount of time, with enought itteration could pinpoint the guy. Basic, not heavy to put in place at all

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 12:57 AM

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^^^^^^^^^^ this

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there should be a script kiddie detection algorithm, like the trust system they implemented

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they already can tell when you actually interact with others, so why should it be hard to know if one is the perpetrator of a client exploit or a script damaging other users?

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:01 AM

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because these exploit a specific flaw, not easy to see if at all from a server perspective

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they can check for a modified client, or scan the memory, lock the SDK but not much at all

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:03 AM

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seriously tho, something that would actually fix this is a hardcoded signature inside the client's exploitable areas that is deleted upon the user's alteration of the client's data, and that signature is verified with login, start-up and/or update. if the verifaction fails it registers it as a modded client and shuts down.

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wouldn't prevent them from hacking, but they won't be able to log on which will reduce hacker count

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:04 AM

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they know when a client is modified already

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:04 AM

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so why don't they block modded clients?

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or they do but ip addresses are changed often?

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:05 AM

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they do but not immediatly i suppose

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:05 AM

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well, another option is to ban steam accounts or turn them into guest accounts with extremely limited access

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most script kiddies are steam accounts from my experience

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they just modify the steam edition and run amuck till they're banned, then laugh about how they "triggered those normies"

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:09 AM

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steam or not, IP seems to be the target for now, HWID someday maybe

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:11 AM

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maybe they should use their copyrights

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to get the sites for downloading modded clients shut down

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it is a violation

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:12 AM

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but they should be clever than that, not banning at all, just screwing with them could be a better lesson, something like your account is locked to : Basic avatar and no sound for X months, Inverted Vrchat (screen upside down) for X months, VRchat "disconnect edition" sending them home every 3 minutes, you name it, bully the bullies for some time.

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:12 AM

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or

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they could give them my vrchat experience

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like this

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extreme lag, broken skyboxes, 30 of rooms inaccessible because of serious errors, screenshot taking causes client to stop responding, everything is blaring colors like you're using a battered HP WMR headset, tracking loses its shit every 2 seconds, and controller softlock till they reboot their pc and entire gear

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oh and 16 youtube-downloader-dl processes breaking the back out of their CPU

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and a generic room takes 3 hours to load and everything loads in decimals (if you're lucky)

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i3 with integrated graphics

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laptop

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i want to get a pc soon

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it barely does

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i dont have one

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i use Google cardboard

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sometimes

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other times I'm in desktop mode

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:19 AM

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The tracking errors are on your side, HP is known for this kind of issues. Seems that you have a low end hardware, but i get it, it could kill your experience

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:19 AM

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I'm just saying they could do this to hackers

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theyd abandon the heck out of the game

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:19 AM

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nah not to much, just enough to make a point

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:20 AM

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i just play it because I've met this super nice guy who uses the same character as mine and we're good pals

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:20 AM

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it could be more productive than a ban at the end, but you know

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:21 AM

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never touched an actual vr in my life except for Google cardboard so idk

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:21 AM

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true Akumo

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:21 AM

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best rig I've ever gotten was a 760 nvidia

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damn

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why

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:21 AM

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k

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:22 AM

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tfw

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you have cash to afford an oculus and upgrade to a vive

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I'm legit selling land to get a pc build

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a vive pro?

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heard it had sound issues

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idk

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saw it on r/vive so

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oh

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yeah

thorny totem Jun 17, 2018, 1:24 AM

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good choice then

vocal shard Jun 17, 2018, 1:24 AM

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full body isn't hard from what i heard

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you just

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slap pucks on yourself

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right

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I'm going for a kinect

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yeah I'm never getting a vive