#vrchat-general-2

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ruby needle
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which i dont doubt

broken kite
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@shy nest Same thing happened to me the other day, thousands of error boxes, brang back some nostalgia from win 95/xp

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I could upload at 11h

meager solstice
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I’ve heard people get the privilege to upload in like 4 hours some 54 hours

balmy sable
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Hello, who know what's the differences beetwen "Driver4VR Friend:Free" and "Driver4VR Gold" for the full body tracking ?

raven silo
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@balmy sable free only give limit time to use it

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gold no time limit

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free basic a trial if you like you buy it

balmy sable
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Ohh i see, ty !

dense ivy
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Hello! What's everyone doing?

tired path
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I've been wondering what's going on with the server for awhile now.

rustic berry
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I heard from a friend while playing VRchat that now people have to play for atleast 24 hours before being able to upload avatars. I just wanted to make sure if that is true or not, because I am thinking about setting up another account.

tired path
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It might be true,I'm not quite sure though.

vocal shard
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apparently time isn't and has never been the sole factor

tired path
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All that I know is that continuously every time I try to log in it tells me something is invalid, when I have the correct password and Username.

rustic berry
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that is what I read, but wanted to make sure

vocal shard
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you have to actually play: roam around, interact with people, visit places… even though it seems to require about 20h to 40h (on average) of gameplay to unlock

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as in, you might unlock it at 10h like you also might at 50h ¯_(ツ)_/¯

rustic berry
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I know I can do it on the account I have, but I guess I will have to do that if I do make a new account

raven silo
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need build time machine take you back 5 month before it happen lol

naive gust
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When I upload my model and then go back to VRChat it's not there, how do I fix this?

balmy sable
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"Supported USB 3.0 port detected with unknow bandwidth. Kinect may or may not compatible withy our hardware." it's so frustrating..
anyone know what to do?

raven silo
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sound like your Usb bandwith go for as it can go

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might need buy other USB3.0 PCI card

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extend the bandwith better

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kinect use alot usb bandwith

balmy sable
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thank you

kind folio
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yikes @ anyone who uses external clients

vocal shard
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I’m really frustrated with how long it takes to be able to change your avatar. I’ve played games, hung out with people, explored a ton of worlds, I’ve got like 5 hours in. I just wanna be jacket from hm, how long does this take?

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Why is this a policy? Don’t want new people creating malicious avatars?

raven silo
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@vocal shard take alot longer then 5 hour

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some people took couple week

sacred dove
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Well, I figure this would be the best place to ask this

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Is it legal to use a free blender script you found (like GxAV) and, after a lot of modifications to the scene and the use of your own music, use it to render a youtube video

rough pulsar
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@sacred dove When you say script, I'm guessing you mean an addon to blender?

sacred dove
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Yep

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Although it's just one long python file

rough pulsar
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In that case, there's a good chance it's okay.

sacred dove
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I tried digging through the GLP, but that seems to handle the distribution of files, not their use

rough pulsar
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There's a specific thing in blender's licence (not sure if it's the GPL part or what) that covers software output and basically says it has no licence, and such is yours to control (unless somehow some other licence kicks in, say if you're rendering a video of the Marvel studios logo)

sacred dove
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And, if the script is copyrighted?

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Do I just have to give credit?

rough pulsar
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Hm, that I'm not sure. If you open up the .py file in a text editor it might have a comment block at the start with what licence it has

sacred dove
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It said it just uses the GLP, which is complicated as fuck

rough pulsar
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Oh, if the script is also GPL then software output is yours to licence how you wish.

sacred dove
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Oh. Well that's helpful

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So that means it's legal?

rough pulsar
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Relevant section of the GPL FAQ

sacred dove
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Yas

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Thanks, I'd rather avoid sudden lawsuits

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Ah, so what I've read, someone can control how their software is distributed, but not how it is used. So, even if a youtube channel starts making money via the output of the software, the software creator can't sue

rough pulsar
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Most of the GPL relates to modification and distribution of software. At least in my experience.

umbral reef
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Cant do a lawsuite anyway GWnanamiLaceShrug
Would cost them to much and at worse you will get thrown a DMCA claim or alike

vocal shard
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That seems silly

sacred dove
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So, I should be safe

vocal shard
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And it’s frustrating because half the reason I’m playing the game is for a custom avatar

sacred dove
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Um.

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This is no longer relevant

vocal shard
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I don’t think I’ll ever have a lot more than 5 hours

sacred dove
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when you have 16 custom avatars

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I mean, I pulled them all from sfm, but.....

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They all were fucked up in one way or another

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So that needed fixing

kind anchor
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how do i fix reload bug like everytime i load even i join same world?

fading topaz
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nerd

floral aspen
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the impatience is real

shy nest
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god this game runs like ass alot

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its like 1/10 times I get decent fps and can play but the other 9/10 times I get put straight to 10fps on launch

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other games work perfect but not this one vrpill

umbral reef
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single core with bad optimized content (because we make the content...)

ruby needle
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gotta optimize more cirREE

umbral reef
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Reduce the drawcalls GWnanamiChiakiYeah

ruby needle
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i really hope cats automatic atlasing gets improved with better unwrapping and such so more can use it without it ruining models cirBaka

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but the way it currently works is kind of stupid anyway cirLaugh

idle elm
vocal shard
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hey everyone

coral vessel
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hi

vocal shard
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hi

umbral reef
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hi

candid kiln
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what happens when i get unbanned what if someone uploads old footage again

winged quartz
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I schlept a lot today

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Hello

ruby needle
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Comfynato cirComfy

umbral reef
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Id expect them to log the bans so being reported for the same thing should be hard GWupuGuriThinking

winged quartz
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@ruby needle yesh indeed GWnanamiLupuFlower

raven silo
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in my opinon if you get banned you should not be able upload avatar anymore but you can still play vrchat

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after the banned

ruby needle
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if you have been banned for avatar resons maybe

raven silo
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yea if it avatar relate

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best not get banned in first place

umbral reef
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Im against the never thing but it should not be an 4 minute job

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Because if its never people will just make new accounts GWnanamiLaceShrug

raven silo
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make new account with waiting period plus easy moderation figure out same person to

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that waiting peroid can over couple weeks

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get access for it

lusty mortar
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bad servers orjust me

vocal shard
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Got the empty Space Screen again for the last half hour cirPls

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Empty space screen is actually a prediction of your future

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Sorry to tell you :(

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I shall pray foe you

quiet perch
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rest in peperonies

ruby needle
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try deleting the temp folder under %temp%

small wing
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Okay does anyone else have any issues with the worlds approval list?

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Mine NEVER loads.

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It always say's N/A

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About to put up a post on the canny at this point begging for their list to be on thier actual site instead cause google docs are horrible.

noble dirge
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anyone else keep crashing lol, just crashed 4 times in a row now

vocal shard
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I've been messing around trying out vr with my phone today in this game

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Do you guys know an alternative to vridge that works over wifi

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Problem with vridge is the time limit

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10 minutes is nothing

vague hound
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Did they change the distance of the [interface] window? If feel like it's sitting my my chest and I have to reach back to click buttons. (Especially the "Back" button in the bottom right.)

tacit plank
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No Roll, but my search is broken. If I search for a player, the information showing up is always blank

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If your interface is closer, maybe the avatar descriptor is too far back on that avatar or something

south oyster
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-eats cheerios-

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hello 😄

small wing
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rages over portal system in game when trying to make it work with a space ship in unity

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Hi 😄

spring atlas
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Question: I know that it's possible to play music through the mic input, but is it possible to play insturmental music into VRchat while still having the mic free for singing?

small wing
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@tacit plank Search will do that from time to time. its an issue with the game trying to pull from the servers, wait it out and it usually loads.

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@spring atlas Try looking into animation overrides.

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It will let you play music in game without quality loss

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Otherwise you will have to get a virtual audio output

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which cost some $$ so be aware

spring atlas
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Is that how all the VRchat dancers play their music?

small wing
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From what ive seen yes

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its all animation overrides

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if the music didnt sound like total potato that is 😄

spring atlas
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See, I don't necessarily play any instruments, but I want to be able to sing some covers (and maybe even dance too, once I get a Vive and leg trackers).
To do that, I'll need the mic intput to be free so I can sing to backing tracks.

small wing
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No need to get vr to trigger animation overrides

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Just press shift and f1 to f8

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But yeah animations are the way to go

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If you wanna sing and stuff i would say that is best too, just dont use the animations in large places where people change avatars a lot or else your animation might reset.

spring atlas
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So, from what I gather, overrides replace preassigned animations with audio files, correct?

small wing
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That, and anything else you would want to fit in there too.

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so say if you wanted to also make a lightshow, you could.

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Its a bit of a learning curve due to having to do it all in unity, but when you watch a couple tutorials on how to get it done it eventually clicks.

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plus having the sdk makes it 100x easier

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I would reccomend fade's tutorial on weapon animation overrides, he talks about sound in there.

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anything from that tutorial can be easily manipulated to serve your purposes.

spring atlas
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I see.
So, what would likely be the simplest way to play backing tracks I can sing to? Especially since I may want to swap out the backing tacks fairly frequently.
Animation overrides or Virtual Audio Output software?

small wing
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I would say the latter, but it will make it sound far less pleasing in terms of audio fidelity.

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So if you aim to put on a show i would go with the former definetly.

spring atlas
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Got it. Thanks.

small wing
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Np

obtuse linden
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just got logged out

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everyone in the room did

mighty galleon
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blame the communist

devout island
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Always blame politics

vocal shard
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Is there a way to view a avatars description while in-game?

lilac swan
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AFAIK the only way to view avatar descriptions is at the VRchat website when you logon

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At this time anyways

vocal shard
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Alright

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@vocal shard
Pretty much everyone uses official vr headsets or desktop. So I'm not sure who would? General consensus is pretty negative most places about that. Surprised no one replied to you. Lol

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Cause a lot of the MMD community is getting quite angry that their models are being put into VRChat without a way to show credit.

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Ouch

lilac swan
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Leftover from the very, very old avatar system that was in place before

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Yeah, there's been quite a lot of drama and anger from the MMD community about that

vocal shard
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Yeah

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MMDCommunity is super strict about crediting people

lilac swan
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Cough cough to the point where #rules 12 had to be a thing

vocal shard
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I don't know that plugin and the story behind it so

lilac swan
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It's not relevant today at all, thankfully

vocal shard
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Righto

lilac swan
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But yeah, I would love to "inspect" avatars. Bringing up the description and perhaps other info

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Tri count, material count, shaders, number of users wearing avatar (if public)...

vocal shard
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And most importantly, who actually made the model and where it came from

lilac swan
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Yup. That would go in the now visible description

vocal shard
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I see alot of people use the Tda style model, which is actually not allowed in VRChat as requested by the original modeler of the base model.

lilac swan
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I moreso want avatar specs so I can shame people into optimizing their shit 😛

vocal shard
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Lol

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Stay away from me then sweats

lilac swan
vocal shard
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I can't use normal maps if I atlus everything so it's hard

lilac swan
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It's a bit of extra work, but you can. I atlas'ed my materials in blender, got my atlas texture, and then I redid it again but I switched out the textures for the normal maps for each material.

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So I ended up with two atlas textures. Diffuse and normals.

vocal shard
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But if it's all one texture my skin would be all shiny and stuff like the clothes or vise versa

rough pulsar
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Gotta be careful atlassing normal maps, don't wanna fuck up the tangent orientation.

vocal shard
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^

lilac swan
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In my case it worked out fine, but yeah

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Atlas when you can

vocal shard
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I mean, the textures I use aren't massive or anything

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And most of the the time it's 3-4 textures

rough pulsar
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It's not texture size, but keeping material count as low as possible.

vocal shard
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Materials, whatever

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That's what I meant I guess

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Like, a material for the skin, hair, and clothes. That's about it

lilac swan
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That is reasonable enough

rough pulsar
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You can have loads of textures, that's fine for performance. It's when the material count gets high problems happen.

indigo fern
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That sounds fine, had us worried for a second

rough pulsar
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Yeah, separate materials for distinct surface types is okay.

vocal shard
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Well, in my case each material is a different texture

lilac swan
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Personally when you reach 10+ materials is when eyebrows are absconded through the roof

vocal shard
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Nah, I don't use that many

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That's way too many

rough pulsar
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Are they also different shader types? If not then they can be combined.

vocal shard
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They are different

rough pulsar
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Okay that's fine.

vocal shard
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Cause like, I don't want the skin of my avatar to be glossy and shiny like the clothes

rough pulsar
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You could combine them and use a texture to vary the glossy factor between the clothes & skin.

vocal shard
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I'm not sure how to do that

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Pretty novice with Unity here

rough pulsar
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I'm on mobile atm but basically you make a greyscale texture and stuff it into the appropriate texture slots in the material and that controls the parameters rather than a global value.

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Reading the unity manual on materials is a good place to start.

vocal shard
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Righto

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The stuff I've been doing has been working so, idk. I'll take a read tho

sweet agate
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meme nation hereeeeeeeeeeeee

tribal kite
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any of you know the name of the world that has the purple haired fox girl? she holds a gun and a school girl skirt and a bunch of dances

waxen shadow
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Any karaoke world I join is just a white screen ...

shy nest
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lmao when people say that tda style models arent allowed in vrchat nuttWhy

tribal kite
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lolwut

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also dang i still havent found it

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coulda sworn there used to be place called "wacky island" or something like that

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and it had attack on titan and that purple haired fox girl

shy nest
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Ive read through the terms of use ect and I have nowhere found that tda models aren't allowed to be used outside of mmd. The only instance of this is on the mmdwikia so...

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id trust a official document over wiki page

indigo fern
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I believe the wiki page says bases aren't even allowed?

stuck swift
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Rip I cant find a blank Nanachi model

topaz notch
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Blank how?

sweet agate
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naked GWqlabsKek

blazing ember
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growl

sweet agate
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rawr REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

tribal kite
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the character looks like that but with a jacket

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i used to know the name of the world but it's been a while 😦

stuck swift
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Yeh nakey

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Theres a world with a bunch of Nanachi or whatever theyre called, but I cant find it. Hoping one of my friends knows it, but Im tryingto get it to change it into one of my characters

hollow kayak
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anyone have the same problem where when I click ESC>System>Exit Vrchat, then the game not responding and end up crashed?

uncut trail
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Whats code for big sister dungeon

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Sinxe not 356 ?

lavish kraken
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368 and E N S W for the coffin puzzle

lavish kraken
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Sadly I have all the puzzles and codes memorized for BSD part 1

vocal shard
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hello

thorn ocean
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Hello, socially awkward butt here

sweet agate
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me2

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lets be socially awkward together

kind folio
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@thorn ocean I like your pfp lol

thorn ocean
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@sweet agate Im down XD and @kind folio Thanks c:

kind folio
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@stuck swift just remove the clothing I'm blender ezclap

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in*

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np adro

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I'm still procrastinating sleep cause and I have work in like 2 hours.

thorn ocean
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There have been maybe 2 times ive interacted with people, but most of the time i just stand in the corner cause i dont want to interrupt anyone XD

proper prism
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Hoi

kind folio
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in publics I usually don't talk unless I need too

thorn ocean
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Lol my sleep schedule is beyond messed up cause of my work

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@proper prism Hello there

kind folio
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I'm honestly just stressed and can't sleep cause the store i work at got robbed for $10000 the other day

proper prism
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Hay ^-^ @thorn ocean

thorn ocean
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Oh lord, i can understand that

kind folio
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and today is my first day back since it happened...so I might not have a job by the end of today lol

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which I'm okay with.

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but still stressed

thorn ocean
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Understandable, i hope it all works out for ya

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😃

kind folio
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thanksu

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I met a Japanese guy on vrchat the other day and ive been slowly learning Japanese lol

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watashi wa Tree desu

thorn ocean
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Ive only met like one person who was willing to show me around

kind folio
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Awe :( I would show you around

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I love showing people cool world's

thorn ocean
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The ones he showed me were Battle Disks which i visit often now, Moonbase, and some horror map with a Big Sister that i forget the name of, met him in the presentation room

kind folio
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Big sister dungeon

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You a vr user?

thorn ocean
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Yup, was one of the first games i got after i got VR lol

kind folio
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oo

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If you want me to show you around some cool world's you can add me if you want ^_^

thorn ocean
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Im down cx

vocal shard
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my oculus smells like NEWCAR

umbral reef
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My oculus smells like alcohol

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But my whole room does so GWnanamiIllyaThink

shy nest
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mine also smells of alcohol :^)

meager solstice
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At this point My alcohol smells like oculus

uncut trail
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Code didnt work

kind folio
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my oculus smells like salt

thorn ocean
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My vive smells like vape

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but like Oclac so does my whole room

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That moment when all the events happen while youre at work 😦

lavish kraken
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My oculus smells like bacon

thorn ocean
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The best kind of smell

thorn ocean
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Kinda regretting i got a vive instead of oculus, using the controllers in VRChat can be very annoying

timber junco
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Valve seemed to be working on oculus like controllers for the vive

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You'll just have to wait

thorn ocean
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The main thing is the trackpad, especially with things that require a lot of movement like Battle disks

median basalt
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Tbh I regret not getting WMR

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Oculus tracking is CPU heavy

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Controllers are awesome though

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As long as I stay out of the Pug or other unoptimized maps I'm pretty okay

timber junco
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Just get a new cpu you dingus

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Yours is YEEEEEEEARS old now

indigo fern
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I got WMR
It makes me want to pat my own head though, which I cannot do

raven silo
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yea that limit of camera tracking lol

indigo fern
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I cri

raven silo
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you can pat other people head for your limit

indigo fern
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People can't really tell what headset anyone uses until you tell them

raven silo
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that good thing lol

inner cape
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Who even wants to pat themselves...? Glare

indigo fern
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Anyone who didn't buy WMR 😢

inner cape
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Never wanted to pat myself

indigo fern
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I need to get my Kinect working so I can test it with a discount headset

inner cape
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360 or 1 ?

indigo fern
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1

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Had it for quite some time

inner cape
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Reee

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Gib me 1

indigo fern
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Full intention of buying the adapter, when I was going to pull the trigger, discontinued

inner cape
indigo fern
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I bought it for $10 though, lul

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Was gonna use it for motion capture for animations, when the adapter got discontinued I was mega pissed

inner cape
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Just gotta stick to a 360 for eternity

indigo fern
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I still need to modify it though, to work on PC

inner cape
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Modify?

languid ravine
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Well if you wait Oculus just needs to release a software update for full body

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Works like the Kinect

indigo fern
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Ye, it needs a power source like the 360 version, but the it has a different USB type, so you gotta solder the power to it

inner cape
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Oh, so you got that

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Good luck with it

indigo fern
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I can't wait for oculus full body, mostly because I don't have oculus 😢

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Wait, oculus full body? That was gonna be a thing?

inner cape
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Did you watch the oculus 2.0 vid?

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They revealed some of the new features coming

indigo fern
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Hmm, gotta check it out now

raven silo
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you can connect vive tracker to rift just need 2 vive base station 3 vive tracker

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driver4vr

indigo fern
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💸

inner cape
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^

raven silo
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well nothing cheap lol

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want be cool kids need pay up lol

indigo fern
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That's true too

raven silo
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guess the crasher dress up like tupper Touhou

quiet prawn
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Well I mean, Cirno is a little shit.

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So accurate roleplay?

balmy sable
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i bought a usb 3.0 pci express 2.0 fast, for my intel core i5, but the the kinect does not work .. "Supported usb 3.0 port detected with unknow bandwitdh. kinect may or not be compatible with your hardware"

naive gust
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Whenever I upload a world or avatar they don't show up anywhere, is there a way to fix this?

umbral reef
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Ow--

indigo fern
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If you have an Nvidia GPU you could always turn on shadowplay

kind folio
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@naive gust right account?

naive gust
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Yes @kind folio

kind folio
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@inner cape do you mind linking me

inner cape
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Wat

kind folio
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the video for oculus 2.0

vocal shard
median basalt
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I think three pings is a little excessive man

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Or just ping him once

kind folio
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@shell sage yeah this game is ridiculous. and the fact they don't know how to tell bad news. aka playmaker release being cancelled.

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they just can't dev/ moderate their game properly.

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and you're not slick vrc. we know you messed up with releasing playmaker lmao.

balmy sable
kind folio
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they don't care. if they mess up a ban they won't go back and look at it "oops we might have messed up but we have no way of knowing so we will not touch it"

balmy sable
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yes beep :c i installed the kinect driver 2.0, and i bought a new usb port 3.0 pci express.. :c

kind folio
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clean out the usb slot may be lol

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compressed air

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may be something is in it

balmy sable
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its a new one :c

kind folio
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soon to come there will be new vr mediums.

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vrchat will become a thing of the past with the way it's going.

north axle
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Contact them via email, and only then they'll investigate.

kind folio
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@balmy sable could be faulty or defective

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@north axle he has

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it's been 4 days

vocal shard
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Mails need a month to be processes

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Just calm down and wait

balmy sable
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"vrchat with 6666 users" wtff

north axle
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If you did, they already investigated your client.

balmy sable
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look at the bot

umbral reef
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They have been banned for a month though cyhann

kind folio
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his ban is done in a month LUL

umbral reef
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Thats kinda the problem lmao

kind folio
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Actually ridiculous

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They probably mistyped a username when banning someone using the anti crash client

vocal shard
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That's the joke

kind folio
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the irony LOL

north axle
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Yeah, the mail usually reaches them within seconds.

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Are you sure you used the same email you mentioned when you signed up?

vocal shard
kind folio
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depression

vocal shard
kind folio
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👀

vocal shard
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Please confirm. Putting an avatar into an empty game object with a long dancing animation will fix the 30 second limit animation bug

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????

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Yeah

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Ok

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So i just add an animation controller to the dancing avatar and disable my mesh render on my main

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?

cold talon
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Oh your doing the animation cheat?

vocal shard
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Is that how its done tho

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And it fixes the hand gesture glitch too right

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So i can have more than 1 keyframe on my hand gesture without glitching out

cold talon
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Well your hand gesture is still one, just the child object of the toggled parent has more frames.

vocal shard
#

Ah

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@cold talon thank you very much for helping.me with my ava creation bruh

#

U de best

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My daddy thought me if someone helps you

#

You gotta be greatfull

#

And express that gratitude

#

Therefore tyvm Pray

subtle imp
#

dadception vrpill

umbral reef
#

Howly shit its already 7 pm
I planned t play vr for some hours but dam

#

Not even started yet and time legit flew by

vocal shard
#

rip

#

lol

cold talon
#

Reep

#

So kuro managed to pull it of?

cold talon
#

Well if he makes awesome stuff its kinda obvious he's gonna be targeted hackspanner

vocal shard
#

huh?

#

what happend?

#

poor kuro :(

cold talon
#

Yeah kuro got targeted by the hackers witch tried to leak his avatars

vocal shard
#

I can't even imagine the pressure if someone wanted to steal my avatars sadCirno

cold talon
#

Yeah but he managed to encrypt most of his avatars so they couldn't get them ripped

vocal shard
#

Oh snap, truly foresight only the best would have

#

mine are completely unprotected Sweat

#

does a password help if I zip the files?

cold talon
#

You should get him to encrypt them, but only if they are worth it, he is a very busy man

#

Gets commission from left and right

turbid agate
#

For some reason, my gpu usage drops to 20% from 40% when i look at a group of people, is this supposed to happen? 🤔

halcyon ingot
#

This game is cpu limited

#

so that is the bottleneck

#

when you are looking at all those people im assuming your cpu hits 100

turbid agate
#

Nope, 60%

#

all the time

halcyon ingot
#

thats weird

cold talon
#

Or magically the avatars are more optimized than the background geometry tanabae

turbid agate
#

Oh wait, my cpu stays at 44% all the time wtf, ram stays at same mb too

#

only gpu changes 🤔

halcyon ingot
#

If your cpu wont hit 100 its probs because the game is early access so performance is buggy

turbid agate
#

A recent update, dunno which since i was away for few weeks, just made my performance tank when looking at people

halcyon ingot
#

Last few updates have hampered performance somewhat

turbid agate
#

Sucks since now i cant really go into VR and be around people without 5fps

#

and constant stuttering due to how it switched to the vrchat logo whenever you load an avatar

small wing
#

Did you set your stream vr settings?

turbid agate
#

the what now, i never messed with those

halcyon ingot
#

You could try turning down supersampling to .7 - .9

#

it would look worse

#

but run better

small wing
#

Steam vr has a downsample option it helps with ---

#

nevermind lol he types faster

#

time to be lazy

turbid agate
#

where is that option though

small wing
#

under developer

subtle imp
small wing
#

If you are talking about anti theft, apparently even that is against tos

#

kinda triggers me

vocal shard
#

nah I heard there is a legit tos way to do it

small wing
#

O nice

vocal shard
#

only true top tier ppl know how to do it tho

turbid agate
#

i cant find any supersamling options, just options to turn off and on Advanced Supersampled filtering

halcyon ingot
#

What do you guys mean by encrypt?

small wing
#

go up to where it says games i think

halcyon ingot
#

Like the thing in cats?

small wing
#

@turbid agate hold up im checking for you

#

Go under applications and select vrchat

#

move the slider towards the left to make the game more potato

#

move it right to make it more pc master race

#

😉

cold talon
#

Kinda the kats i think 🤔

#

No idea how to do it tho

turbid agate
#

i see

small wing
#

Probably deals with the http headers

#

so that it cant be ripped from cache

#

idk

halcyon ingot
#

If its the cats thing that pretty easy

small wing
#

*not headers but like the https links

cold talon
#

Not the cats thing, I know he encrypts them somehow before sending it to the server

vocal shard
#

wait who do you mean?

halcyon ingot
#

I'm not sure how that would work

#

Peoples clients would need to be able to decrypt it

#

Ye and as cyhann said who are we on about?

cold talon
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯ haven't worked with it, kuro uses it tho

halcyon ingot
#

Who is kuro?

vocal shard
#

oh ye ofc

#

kuro the legend pog

halcyon ingot
#

still clueless

cold talon
#

You really dont know kuro?

turbid agate
#

me neither

halcyon ingot
#

Nope

#

Can you tell me who they are?

kind folio
#

lul

halcyon ingot
#

I'm assuming this is some joke i'm not in on.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

vocal shard
#

he posted a bit higher

#

scroll

#

you aren't supposed to ping them

#

bad karma

kind folio
#

@Kuri#7186

#

I live for bad karna

#

karma

vocal shard
#

fake ping tho thonk

kind folio
#

:monkas-1: :monkas-1:

#

fake emote too haHAA

cold talon
#

Haah nice bamboozled tree

kind folio
#

🇴

#

🇮 🇨

vocal shard
#

use monika

#

and make sure to use

#

Just Monika

cold talon
#

Anyway im going to implore kuro to encrypt mine tomorrow hope he accepts

vocal shard
#

I made the bad joke

#

I fly now woooossshhhhh

cold talon
#

uses yuri

vocal shard
#

nope.jpged

#

idk

#

natsuki is pretty good

halcyon ingot
#

I think this encryption may just be cats blender tool

vocal shard
#

tbh

#

also only innocent person

#

g1fan just ask him

#

yeah monika a hoe

kind folio
#

main character is my bae

vocal shard
#

oh

#

oops

kind folio
#

not monika

#

not sayori

#

not natsuki or yuri

umbral reef
#

Me?

vocal shard
#

oh the guy?

kind folio
#

yes

vocal shard
#

ohhhhh

rapid heath
#

y'all are mad.... Yuri - best girl

cold talon
#

People were saying that the cats encryption doesent really work, so he must be using something else

vocal shard
#

YURI IS

cold talon
#

He was the only one i the room not affected

vocal shard
#

SPOILERS

halcyon ingot
#

It does work

vocal shard
#

LIBATINA

halcyon ingot
#

It depends on the ripping method

rapid heath
#

Had such a sad backstory.... but Monika needed to spoil it for us

vocal shard
#

Fake

kind folio
#

just block everyone

#

tip

cold talon
#

I like hanging around sayori most

rapid heath
#

Monika - is second best girl though 👀

kind folio
#

people won't steal ur avatar if you just block everyone

umbral reef
#

Tmw your snapchat starts to send notifications of vids from the past 4 days all in one go GWnanamiNotLikePapika Help

halcyon ingot
#

I don't find the game fun if I block everyone

#

But thats just me

vocal shard
#

Wat

#

Just ask kuri

#

God

#

I like sayori

kind folio
#

lol just go in soley invite only world's and you'll be fine

halcyon ingot
#

Staying in private rooms just stagnates the game

cold talon
#

Sayory is best tbh

halcyon ingot
#

I play to meet people and see the creative things people come up with

vocal shard
#

yeeee

kind folio
#

@halcyon ingot I do too but you can't anymore with how shitty oyblicd are

#

publics

#

even friends + is scary

cold talon
#

Low five 🖐

halcyon ingot
#

What is so shitty?

#

the performance?

vocal shard
#

Hell yeah

#

👏

#

Everybody is a chicken dmh

kind folio
#

@halcyon ingot performance, avatar stealin, crashing, just shitty people without any of those things lol

#

one in 100 people you'll find someone you might actually become friends with

halcyon ingot
#

I've got 650+ hours in this game and have met less than 10 hackers

cold talon
#

I really wish sayori could have hanged whit me more.

halcyon ingot
#

I really think this issue is overblown

vocal shard
#

Lol yeahhh

halcyon ingot
#

A lot of people I know have similar playtime and they agree

kind folio
#

Nor really lol

#

700 hours and publics are still just kinda cancer nowadays.

halcyon ingot
#

I disagree

#

but thats cool

kind folio
#

I mean, there's a good reason most people go in friends- invite only world's

#

statistical proof mah dude

halcyon ingot
#

Not really

kind folio
#

Hm

halcyon ingot
#

They go in friends+ because the issue is overblown

#

It is an issue

vocal shard
#

I have met zero hackers PogChamp

halcyon ingot
#

I am not denying

kind folio
#

lies @vocal shard

halcyon ingot
#

But it really isnt that bad

vocal shard
#

No

kind folio
#

I got a new avatar, went in a few publics cause I was excited to show it off and shit

#

had 3 people steal it in like 5 diff lobbies

#

and 2 people try to crash me

halcyon ingot
#

Unlucky

kind folio
#

Not unlucky if it happens all the time lmfao

halcyon ingot
#

You gave one example

rapid heath
#

never been crashed either high fives Cyhann

vocal shard
#

I mean if you just go and show it off lmao

cold talon
#

I've met a single hacker

vocal shard
#

Nah I was crashed by a guy once

cold talon
#

And thats me!

vocal shard
#

Ain't hacks tho

halcyon ingot
#

Just saying the majority of the people who have spoken here have a similar experience as me

cold talon
#

pam pam paaaam

kind folio
#

im outtie

vocal shard
#

Why lie

cold talon
#

🤔

#

Tree you out?

subtle imp
#

crashers are pretty frequent tho, lets not ignore these issues do exist... but lets also acknowledge that the devs and moderators ig are doing their best efforts against them ¯_(ツ)_/¯

halcyon ingot
#

We killed tree

cold talon
#

Woops

halcyon ingot
#

The issues totally exist

#

But I haven't really seen the staff do anything to stop it

umbral reef
#

Batata at times i wonder though

cold talon
#

I guess you could say we
Killed nature

vocal shard
#

No

#

Bad joke

cold talon
#

yaaaaaaahhh, rides int the sunset

kind folio
#

@subtle imp by banning people who aren't hacking lol?

#

they don't do shit 😅

halcyon ingot
#

We brought him back bois

#

I can agree there tree

cold talon
#

Damit cyann

halcyon ingot
#

This game has a serious moderation issue

kind folio
#

Either there needs to be more or they need to be better trained

#

or both.

halcyon ingot
#

Agreed

#

But for those they need money

#

So it isn't likely anytime soon :/

vocal shard
#

Idk still waiting for proof

cold talon
#

More = less trusted mods which could abuse power,
More trained =/= better moderation, you cant split a person

vocal shard
#

Thonk most 'innocent' ppl broke and admited their deeds

#

How do I trust anyone

kind folio
#

why don't they just offer some sort of paid service lmao

umbral reef
#

Volunteer programs like they do within discord are an option though really

halcyon ingot
#

The game should be paid

#

as far as I am concerned

#

Even 5 bucks would only help

cold talon
#

They cant

#

Game contains copyright material uploaded by users

umbral reef
#

They would need prob. NDA's because it includes account information and ect then
Also needs diffrent 'tiers' and one of the official members that currently does moderation would have to start guiding those peeps and taking reports about those instead of user reports

vocal shard
#

Lmao would help killing it

umbral reef
#

But plenty of modern tech companies use peeps with trust systems to moderate

cold talon
#

So they would get theyr arses sued into oblivion too

halcyon ingot
#

If they can charge for gmod

#

you can charge for vrchat

vocal shard
#

Lmao

#

No

halcyon ingot
#

The copywritten material argument made sense to me

umbral reef
#

Also, they can ask money for it as the core products has no copyright materials

#

That the user content has does not mean they sell that content towards users

halcyon ingot
#

Exactly

cold talon
#

Well that is true 🤔

umbral reef
#

For now thats totally legally solid

cold talon
#

Well lets hope we dont get nintendo material, cuz they get around that :lul:

vocal shard
#

You can't ask for money in post

#

There is a lot you can monitize tho

#

Special members only servers or something for chicken for example

halcyon ingot
#

I really dont want that kind of monetization

vocal shard
#

Not the whole game tho

halcyon ingot
#

All that does is split the community

#

Not what you want in a game all about community

cold talon
#

Well if you make it cost money you remove a part of the community 🤔

halcyon ingot
#

The people who have it would still have it

#

New people would need to pay

#

Like any steam game

vocal shard
#

@cold talon

#

So do i have to put empty game objects within each other

#

It would split it less than what you say tho

halcyon ingot
#

It wouldn't split it at all

cold talon
#

No its the model whit the animation in the empty game object no need for a second one

#

And make sure the animation is set to play when the game object gets enabled

vocal shard
#

Is that the legendary kuro? PogChamp

#

How do you encrypt your avatars?

cold talon
#

Yep you be he is

vocal shard
#

Everybody asked

halcyon ingot
#

I don't see how it could be anything other than cats, but I would like to hear if that's not the case

kind folio
#

I've technically already paid like 450 for it lmao

#

I just want ANY kind of profit on their side

halcyon ingot
#

Same

vocal shard
#

hey does anybody else have the issue with sound being quite?

#

like effects that you trigger?

halcyon ingot
#

The sdk turns them down

vocal shard
#

oof

kind folio
#

may be the sound clip itself is quiet

halcyon ingot
#

Also may be that

cold talon
#

And check the fx slider in the menu

kind folio
#

or your volume range is scuffed

cold talon
#

All sounds from avatars use fx layer

kind folio
#

check those 3 things

vocal shard
#

whats the best range of volume?

#

like 0-30?

kind folio
#

5-6

#

tbh

vocal shard
#

0 to 5-6?

halcyon ingot
kind folio
#

I put all minesuper low

#

cause I don't like bugging people

cold talon
#

I was doing that too before, but they nerfed the sound emitter again so its super quiet now : (

kind folio
#

I haven't touchedvavatars in a while so idk

#

too busy too tired

inner cape
#

It's super weird for me

#

1 sound scource is crazy loud

#

Others are barely heard

#

I don't get it

vocal shard
#

Lol

#

@vocal shard lol

rapid heath
#

oh....my.....god......The Legend ascended to us plebs

vocal shard
#

Im like a legend now

cold talon
#

You're not like a legend

#

You are a legend

vocal shard
#

A meme

#

?

#

Ok i am a legend and a meme

#

Gg

#

A meme legend PogChamp

cold talon
#

A legendary meme

rapid heath
#

A Legendary Meme Legend
wou wou wou wou wou

vocal shard
#

A meme legend so legendary it's only told in legendary memes

#

Or so the legend goes

rapid heath
#

instead of "ora ora ora ora ora" everyone is doing a "kuro kuro kuro kuro kuro"

somber obsidian
#

Sorry, but where can i ask for support?

cold talon
#

A legendary legend that is legendary beyond the definition of legendary meme legend

vocal shard
#

😏

somber obsidian
#

Ah, i used this, but nothing helps me

umbral reef
#

Ow boy

#

Its 10 pm

#

and i have not eaten yet

#

I maybe got sucked into Hearts of iron 4 again GWtogaTheSaddest

vocal shard
#

Oclac is sicklac

#

FeelsBadMan

somber obsidian
#

Problem is, i deleted VRChat folder in my AppData, and now, when i fully reinstalled a game (even from reg) custom models and maps are not loading anymore

#

They're just red holograms

umbral reef
#

To be fair im kinda at a point in the game where i can just go afk and win GWcfcThonk

cold talon
#

Than play and lose

#

Ez

uncut trail
#

Wtf hacker can delete yout avatar list ?

boreal shore
#

Does anyone know what the Community discord link is? id much appreciate it 😄

halcyon ingot
#

@uncut trail No

uncut trail
#

Really ?9

halcyon ingot
#

Yes

#

This community loves rumors so try not to spread them please

vocal shard
#

4chan allready deleted my avatar :(

#

During the big raid

ornate estuary
#

@vocal shard was just wondering why you unfriended

#

I'll leave you alone

limpid obsidian
#

what does the yellow exclamation point on vrchat means?

ruby needle
#

c...carefull cirPls

vocal shard
#

Clearly lmao

ruby needle
#

open you menue

#

does it show anything?

limpid obsidian
#

its shows "You have access to custom world system"

#

and idk what does that mean

ruby needle
#

Oh, seems like you got enoght "tust points" to upload custom content now (if you wanted to)

limpid obsidian
#

ahhhhh XD

#

ty XD

winged quartz
#

I awake from my eternal schleep

candid kiln
#

what gonna happen if when i get unbanned someone sends in old proof

#

even if i dont have cheat anticrash or anything anymore

ruby needle
#

nothing

#

thats why moderation actions are tracked

#

unless its old proof for a different case

candid kiln
#

well i was banned for multiple reasons thats why i got a month ban for my first but it definitely taught me a lesson

#

stealing cheating crashing and lieing i think was what an admin told me

devout island
#

As long as you're not doing it anymore, it's ok

candid kiln
#

aight im just worrying cause i lost alot of friends from being banned and been painfull not being able to make avatars but like i said its defenitly made me stop

#

but most people just make a new account and there happy but i play for the socialising not that so making a new account dosent give me anything back i dont get my friends back so

#

thats why i cant wait to get unbanned being able to talk to old friends again will be nice

devout island
#

Yeah I understand

#

Those other people don't really get the point of the game

inner cape
#

Turns out I have nimbo in my vrc friend list Think

devout island
#

Yeah I added you long time ago

inner cape
candid kiln
#

well as long ill be okay im happy

devout island
#

How long is it until you get unbanned

candid kiln
#

2 more days

#

i also got a unity ban with mine aswell

devout island
#

Rip

#

Stay away from that shit

devout island
#

We talk about vrchat here, no bots

#

Let's forget this happened

candid kiln
#

me?

#

or beep

white berry
#

Does anyone know where i can find a Splatoon avatar? I search it up on VRchat and all i found were Salmonid avatars.

devout island
#

Try to search for splatoon xna models

white berry
#

Ok.

white berry
#

I couldn't find anything.

#

I can't do the models myself sadly because i don't really get most of the tutorials, and Mixamo doesn't let me map the bones.

white berry
#

All i gound were Off The Hook models for Gmod, which i was looking for "Evil Callie" from Splatoon 2.

devout island
white berry
#

Thank you, but that doesn't help my case with Mixamo sadly. I tried with the Off The Hook models but it said "Can't find existing skeleton."

devout island
#

Why are you trying to put them into mixamo

white berry
#

So i can map the bones-

#

It doesn't let me tho for some odd reason-

devout island
#

Are you sure? It let me use it in unity pretty well

white berry
#

Oh, i'll try it in Unity first.

devout island
#

I put them into blender first though

#

Using cats tools, I imported the models and then clicked on Fix Model

#

@white berry There's an easier thing that we can try, I can give you the fbx file I used with all fixes for her model

white berry
#

Sure, that'll help.

#

For some reason addons are being weird and not appearing, despite putting them in the addons folder.

devout island
#

Try restarting blender

idle elm
vocal shard
pastel grove
#

Anybody know how to make my play area not float a foot off the ground? It's really annoying not being able to pick stuff up off the ground no matter how smol I get

rough pulsar
#

Probably your avatar proportions. Switch to Y-Bot and see if you can get to the floor. If you can it's avatar proportions that give you 'stilts' to make things line up.

median basalt
#

Move your playspace with OpenVR advanced settings or whatever

pastel grove
#

It happens with all the avatars and only in vrchat

median basalt
#

@idle elm does this mean the map is more optimized now?

#

Lol

#

You could try adjusting your real height in user settings and moving your playspace a little (or use seated play function even while standing)

#

Lower it down to like 5'2

pastel grove
#

Tried that as well, doesn't do anything

median basalt
#

That's a nuclear option that always works fine for me

pastel grove
#

My play area still stays floating off the ground :I

median basalt
#

Run SteamVR room setup again and give yourself a higher height than you'd think

pastel grove
#

Already did that like 3 times my friend

median basalt
#

Or, again, use OpenVR advanced settings and manually force your playspace into the correct position

#

Hmm

rough pulsar
#

Do what I suggested. Avatar proportions can cause your playspace to float. (or sink)

pastel grove
#

Every other vr game the floor is actually my floor, just not vrchat

#

As stated before I've tried all the base models the game comes with and it still happens

median basalt
#

Then it's almost certainly a proportion or real height issue, since those two are unique to VRC

rough pulsar
#

Hm, that is odd that even with something like Y-Bot you'd float.

pastel grove
#

If I change my player height it just makes everything bigger or smaller and moves my head positioning but the floor boundary still doesn't go any lower

median basalt
#

Weird

#

If I change my player height, I definitely reach the floor

#

If I set it to my real height I can't reach the floor, but if I set it a lot lower I can reach the floor entirely by just barely crouching down

idle cipher
#

ummm i got logged out automatically what does that mean?

weary cypress
#

Internet issues (question mark) ????

idle cipher
#

doubt it it was random, got taken back to log in screen

vocal shard
#

maybe just a bug

wide quail
#

What build are we on?

vocal shard
#

!online

floral flaxBOT
#

There are 6758 users in VRChat currently

rough flax
#

@vocal shardds I sent an email about my ban 2 days ago, no reply yet 😦

vocal shard
#

wrong person

#

U forget the D

#

hehe

rough flax
#

That's weird it tagged you

vocal shard
#

well thank you

#

if u want to mention moderators

#

i will help u

rough flax
#

@vocal shard vrpill

vocal shard
#

<@&397642795457970181>

covert chasm
#

Email's the only way communications will go through about bans, you may or may not get a response

mighty pawn
#

Has anyone had an issue where the game "loads" you into the game like normal but all you can see is the opening space theme but without the loading logo or the login screen? I let it load and I started hearing the Pug's music play (my set home) which meant that at least the game itself was loaded, but visually all I could see was a dim version of the startup screen's background. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling, and making sure that the game was up to date, but the same thing occurs every time I try to launch

gritty sonnet
#

Sometimes when that happens to me, I just leave it for like 30 mins

#

Then it works when I'm back

mighty pawn
#

huh, alright then thanks!

stable arrow
#

Where is the horror world you were the most scared? I want to go there!

inner cape
#

@stable arrow Don't think there are many horror maps, check out Big Sisters Dungeon

south oyster
#

greetings 😄

daring lark
#

私は死にたい

#

:(

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Why do I hurt myself :c

mighty pawn
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I don't think waiting this issue out works on my end, still having the same issue as before, I can hear everything, I'm not sure if my character can move due to the visuals just being a bugged version of the startup screen and there's no curser or any sign of my mouse while the game is open, anyone else got any fixes?

gloomy tree
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There's horror maps! One called Hospital is a new one, and there's another that I really like called Mirror's Curse. There's also a new one (Not new in general) Silent Hill P.T.

meager solstice
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I haven’t encountered that bug before, sounds like it sucks

tawdry canyon
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Hello?

meager solstice
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Hi @tawdry canyon

stable arrow
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Thank you! I will go to two places. Please let me know if there are any others!

vague slate
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!cleancache

floral flaxBOT
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You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat

weary cypress
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Uhh...how do you guys setup the vr?

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If the sockets... is weird =-= , cause i gotta buy another adapter to fit in that socket and then into a 3 pin socket connector in the wall outlet.

oblique field
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I have been playing this game for 24 hours

weary cypress
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Oof

oblique field
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But the mail is not coming

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I want change avatar

umbral reef
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Rawr what vr headset ya using?

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Also the 24H is a false news
There is no X amount of hours you need to play

oblique field
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I am computer

umbral reef
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I varries from person to person

oblique field
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oh....

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T T

weary cypress
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Htc vive , just bought it today , but didn't set it up yet... it's 6.30 pm now so im gonna set it up tomorrow

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gotta setup the wires and everything =_=

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i know right...

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especially the wire management and stuff

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i thought it's plug and play

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but then i need the stations as well for it to work....

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literally 100 wires in the box.

umbral reef
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The tl;dr of it
Plug all the things that fit into somewhere

weary cypress
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there's no power socket outlet on my celling ... so yeah

umbral reef
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The camera's have one power suply and nothing else

weary cypress
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so i gotta buy like a wire coil , and like diy it myself

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the base stations 's power cords is not long enough

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to reach a nearby wall outlet lol

umbral reef
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The headset has one cabel with cabels to the tiny box that splits into 3 end points

weary cypress
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and it's not the typical 3 pin socket as well... so i gotta buy a adapter

umbral reef
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You plug those into that tiny box

weary cypress
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those that's fine...but the base station is the main big issues

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in terms of the wiring

umbral reef
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Ow like that

weary cypress
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oh yeah you bet i did (actually not) plan it out before i buy today

umbral reef
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Well aint sure, im just just burning my house down by using another powerbox

weary cypress
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i thought it's like insert a graphic card , install driver kind of thing and boom , done

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zzz my desk is so small now

umbral reef
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Tl;dr of it
Have 2 power spots in the space ya want it
Have an extra HMDI spot or DP to HMDI for the headset, an usb 3.0 port and power for the headset itself
Download the software to run the vive

weary cypress
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i decided to go with 2 monitors (i have one only before) , nintendo switch and a htc vive

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but this table barely fit them xD

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zzzz my gpu only have 2 hdmi ports , so i gotta buy a either hdmi splitter or dvi cables ...

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can i install htc games without the thing ?

umbral reef
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Same
Got a fairly nice sized desk
But it only fits my desktop, One screen, a laptop with station, the VR headset + normal headset + working tools and one book at max

weary cypress
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cause i cant setup the base station ==

umbral reef
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You can also play the vive for now with only one camera

weary cypress
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one camera?

umbral reef
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Jup

weary cypress
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i mean... what can i play without the base stations lol

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my country doesn't have vive pro yet

umbral reef
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Wait the vive pro legit cant go without two?

weary cypress
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malaysia *

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vive pro just vive pro

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no controller or base stations

umbral reef
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Ow nope, cant play without the sensors

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There is no way the headset knows whats happening then xD

weary cypress
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dang i thought at least vrchat is possible with just the headset

umbral reef
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well the normal vive has also two camera's...

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But you can use one for just normal seated play

weary cypress
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right now im like staring at it be like wow ... cant use it

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oh yeah.. i just realized , i gotta spent money on vr games now

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dang .

ruby needle
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i belive the vive/pro technically could track without if they wanted to do it.

weary cypress
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That's possible BUT , i dont have a power wall outlet for them

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so i gotta DIY it , like buy cables and stuff

umbral reef
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Games that are IMO worth it for now (so not just a gimick)
GORN
SuperHot
(If you enjoy FPS) Payday 2 (Yes that shit is in VR... ITs part of the base game GWnanamiRankoPog !!!!)

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Like imo those are must haves for anyone who likes action games

weary cypress
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actually , i got the headset is for unity and blender

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for college uses

umbral reef
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Dont fall for Fallout 4 VR
Aint realllyy worth it at all

weary cypress
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like animation and stuff , it would look cooler i guess

umbral reef
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Skyrim VR is dope though

weary cypress
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my main gaming is my desktop and my switch

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tbh.. im not a fan of vive games tho

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like skyrim , all those... i mean if i didn't play them before then yes sure

umbral reef
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Most games are really shit 🤷 Cant deny that

weary cypress
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but i already been through the game already

umbral reef
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But the 3 i listed are really polished, feel and play great once you understand how VR works and dont take even a lot from your pc]

weary cypress
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Lol the vive cost more than my computer that comes with keyboards , mouse everything and monitors .

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well i hope... cause i might be bored of vr games and just leave it lol

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i mean , it looks cool and all but setting it up is hella hard

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idk man ... i haven't decided on what games i wanna play

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i still dont know why i buy it in the first place .

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i mean blender and unity . yes that

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oh wait really?

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okay at least unity ...right

ruby needle
weary cypress
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i dont want to ''play'' i mean like do animation and modelling in vr mode

rough pulsar
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Doesn't the latest builds of unity have an experimental VR mode? I know Unreal has a surprisingly usable VR Edit mode

weary cypress
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So vrchat it is ... (question mark?)

umbral reef
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Blender has a VR look mode

ruby needle
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i wonder how well it will work when the vive costed more then your pc... which came with pheriperals cirBaka

umbral reef
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Cant edit and ECT while in that mode but you can look at animations and objects/models while in VR

weary cypress
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My pc cost less cause it's like a bare bone machine

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just a 1070 with a 7400 i5

umbral reef
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Just

weary cypress
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yeah , im learning 3d animation now in my college

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then i got the pc for that

ruby needle
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*just is good yes. how can it bee cheapter then the vive bundle cirThink

weary cypress
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yeah idk why

rough pulsar
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Yeah, we were probably worried you were trying to run VR off some 750 or something weak like that (weak for VR anyway)

umbral reef
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Wait-- How much did you pay for the vive GWnanamiSawakoWut

weary cypress
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it's around 1458 usd if i wanna convert it from malaysia currency

ruby needle
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o.O

umbral reef
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OW my, well that explains it

ruby needle
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what the hell

weary cypress
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yeah , for the headset

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well it's malaysia , so the pricing is a bit mess up

ruby needle
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whats a rift over there

weary cypress
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cause importing and tax and everything else

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no i dont think so , bought it in vr lab

rough pulsar
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Some countries have some really nasty import taxes and similar stuff. I remember the PS...3 I think? was nearly unaffordable in some south american countries because of some weird import stuff.

velvet quarry
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We have pretty high import tax around here, and that's about the price of a Vive and a Vive Pro combined around here.

weary cypress
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it should be more than that , but government and stuff , so tax goes to 0% for the next 3 months

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tbh , im not satisfied on what i paid tho

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like the base station , it's not (so) convenient to set that part up

umbral reef
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Could have googled the cable length though

weary cypress
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no not that , just that there's no nearby wall outlet im my room haha

rough pulsar
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More convenient than the Rift I'd say, since you don't need to have a route back to the PC for the cables.

weary cypress
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well , i cant really blame anything or anyone

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wait what 1989 malaysia bucks ? no ...

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you mean dollar

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yeah. import price all those are expensive

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just like last time i buy a switch when it release , it's like 95-110$ just for import

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from US

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Oh well

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wait ... Oculus rift?

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Does anyone here use it ? is it good?

ruby needle
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yes

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and ... yes

weary cypress
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i got the vive in the first place cause of the controller , im not a fan of rift's controllers

ruby needle
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between vive and rift is a lof of personal preference

weary cypress
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but it feels like im using a tv controller to play xD

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Oof , rift is hella cheaper tho... idk why

ruby needle
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the rift controllers are the better ones normally cirThink