vrchat-general-2

[sudden dome]

It was some error I did that had to do with the model editing

in unity

I was just kind of guessing because the tutorials suck lol

[plain ridge]

It's not easy for the first few models you do/first problems you run into. After doing like 300 avatars and purposely breaking models to see what would happen, I can get from mmd download to uploading it to vrchat in like 20 minutes tops.

[sudden dome]

well I guess Ill have to learn from trial and error then

also is making it bigger than scale a bad idea?

wait a second

So I need the fbx file

because I never actually had an mmd I downloaded a dae from mixamo cuz some utube guy said so

[sudden rapids]

all the mmd models I've downloaded seem to have poly counts 100k+, so I've had to decimate the hell out of them

[plain ridge]

That's why I like working with xna models. Usually between 10 - 20k as is.

That or getting a nice mmd base model then adding on clothes or stuff I like.

[south viper]

What tutorials never cover is all the frigging edge cases

[umbral reef]

To be fair, unless a tutorial does not handle most common mistakes or explains why X has to be done like X and cant be in Y its a mediocre tutorial

[south viper]

But like, every new MMD model I try to use has some new problem all the previous ones didn’t have

And at the moment I even have to deal with a different problem just because I updated cats between two imports of the same model...

But for instance, do any animation override tutorials talk about the way that the overrides won’t work at all if the model has no finger bones?

I feel like I watched all the ones which existed at the time and nobody mentioned it. The docs also didn’t mention it until I submitted the edit...

[vocal shard]

Also, if your characters mouth stays open in VRChat it can be because you have a jaw bone selected in the Unity rigging settings.
If anybody knows of more strange cases, please share them

[umbral reef]

They do not explain that as that is part of rigging
If there is something not perfect about the rigging you need to fix that first

If its a hip bone, fingers, only toe bones but no feet bones and ect

It would be smart if they said it but eh

[south viper]

The docs do have a page specifically for rigging requirements

[vocal shard]

Last time I read the docs, they were so outdated that I ended up with the wrong Unity version (whatever VRChat used before 5.3.6p1)
And they do inform us on the avatar page that assigning anything to the upper chest bone can break the model, so they should also tell us that the jaw bone is useless and unrelated to visemes, I think

[south viper]

Agreed. (Though one of mine has a jaw bound and I haven’t hit a problem yet, it is indeed unused anyway)

The SDK could check all these things automatically

[vocal shard]

Yeah, it wouldn't be very difficult to add, I think

[umbral reef]

The official docs are hella odd to use and unclear at times 🤷

[vocal shard]

There's a Japanese wiki which looks pretty good, if Google Translate doesn't mess up too much, it would probably be helpful to look at

lol

just remove the jaw bone from the head and its fine

in unity

but yea.. 30 minutes is doable for an mmd to blender -> fix/decimate -> unity -> upload

but if you want to customize the shit out of it it will take a bit longer

sometimes it's taken upwards of a week. depending on the complexity of the model.

The fix is simple.. If you know what is causing it

[true sky]

i dont know how many people i caught using crash guns in a friends+ world recently. thinking public is the worst

even when i go back, they brag about how they used their crash guns

[fathom shell]

Damn, I never play this game, also, no VR set, bubi.

[cold talon]

They are trying to turn vrchat into a shooter

[jaunty apex]

@south viper a work around for the no fullbody ik is going to blender and adding fake bones without any weightpaint

then just go to unity and assign them

[south viper]

that is how I solved it, yeah

but try figuring that out back in december when literally nobody knew it was even a thing

[jaunty apex]

i did

[south viper]

and it isn't even a lack of fullbody IK, it was a lack of animation overrides, which technically should be two different things entirely

[jaunty apex]

i did it in november actually

strange how there's still no tutorial for all the problems avatars can have

[south viper]

I still don't understand why lacking fingers should stop overrides working entirely

[jaunty apex]

yeah it's weird

it also makes it so the entire body moves with the head

[south viper]

lol

[jaunty apex]

haven't you noticed?

[south viper]

I didn't even notice anything like that at the time

[jaunty apex]

get a model without finger and you'll see the entire body facing the same direction as the head

really bad if you have vr

[south viper]

which I do

[jaunty apex]

you should try it

it looks horrendous

[south viper]

I do remember some thing where the head refused to rotate when doing emotes

[jaunty apex]

yeah that's another problem

doing backflip has the head in a frozen state

doesn't move with the body

[south viper]

I somehow managed to fix it without doing anything to deliberately fix it

[vital rune]

!cleancache

[floral flax]

You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat

[median basalt]

Tbh it's pretty disgusting that the creator of the Pug has the responsibility of having such a big and popular world

And has done exactly zero to optimize it

[quick nacelle]

probably not the place to post , but thought that was funny

got banned for avatar nude avatar , while i only have nikkei

https://puu.sh/As3QO/80e1368a4d.png

[jaunty apex]

and whats a nikkei

[indigo fern]

Nikkei is

[jaunty apex]

oh that avatar has a name?

i just called it custom avatar

[vocal shard]

so for the events in #events do you have to sign up beforehand or just show up?

[raven silo]

@vocal shard go to vrchat event discord ask them there then add to your friend list

if you want to join there event

most event private because trolling

[vocal shard]

lmao

[small wing]

Does unchecking future proof publish fix unity from crashing world upload?

[floral aspen]

idk if it fixes that issue, but its best to have it unchecked anyway. I heard that for some reason future proofing uploads everything in the entire project instead of just what's in your scene. So if you have a bunch of extra unused assets in your project those are getting uploaded too

[molten igloo]

Well guys I found that amd Radeon adrenalin 18.5.1 seems to be working well with VRchat now.

the latest version released.. maybe yesterday...?

the shader problem that makes most avatars to be transparent

it's still happening very rarely

but it's forgiving

[errant sigil]

I just got a new record in the bunny hop

7:25-7:27

in there

I'm the third all time speedrunner now

Eheuehehueh

[vocal shard]

Hey guys, a question... As I understand VRChat is a single-thread intensive game.

Based on the following best single thread perfomance CPU list: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Would there be a noticeable difference between an i7-7700K and an i7-8700K in VRChat?

[safe prism]

minor if any

I’d do the 8700K tho, who doesn’t need 2 extra cores for elsewhere?

[vocal shard]

The thing is that I have a LGA 1151 motherboard, not sure if upgrading to LGA 1151-v2 for the 8th gen would be worth it.

[safe prism]

If you already have the 7700K, yeah, just keep imo

[vocal shard]

I have an i5-7600

[safe prism]

you wouldn’t notice much difference even on a 7700K, then, as far as games go. i5 vs i7 performance in the 7000 series for gaming is super minimal, even on CPU intensive games. It’s all the same cores clocked slightly differently.

and that even holds semi true moving to 8000, 1-2% gains doesn’t translate into things you’d ever notice ever

[silver tulip]

hello

someone hacked a place

there's a bunch of people

and he removed everyone's camera

and is putting on nude models etc

guy called "AO"

#user-support-old i posted pics and

[floral aspen]

#moderation-reports

go there

also send the logs to [e-mail]

[grave temple]

#FreeOmenous

[jolly nimbus]

why are there so many japanese people in vrchat now?

[thorny halo]

What happened to my boi omenous?

[floral aspen]

Theres always been a good number of japanese people in VRChat

[jolly nimbus]

i practically never ran into them until about a month ago

[floral aspen]

There's been japanese players for a long time

[mental verge]

The Japanese stay to them self in there own public worlds

They are all really nice aswell if you try to talk to them

[vocal shard]

True reminds me. I didn't get a screencap but I hopped into a presentation room a friend was in once. And someone was actually teaching someone Japanese. Well the writing. Over half the room,was dedicated to it.

[prime tapir]

cool

[vocal shard]

I know right? Course I didn't understand any of what they were saying or doing. But neat.

I mean writing derp.

[grave temple]

Our boi Omenous was banned while afk on unity in a public world #FreeOmenous

[vocal shard]

Thats... a poor way of trying to get someone unbanned.

[velvet quarry]

This is not the place to appeal bans, have them send an email to [e-mail] with any relevant information. @grave temple

Ban appeals do not guarantee a response, and in my experience, the moderators do not ban users without definitive evidence. Also afraid that emoji is against the server rules.

[grave temple]

OOF

Clearly don’t read em

[steep turret]

sounds made up icon

like a cryptozoological animal

[grave temple]

[elfin forge]

<@&378256373701410817> just one quick thing, you ARE aware of the fact that ppl can come into private words or friends word without knowing the person and start crashing/ hacking / changing viewpoints of ppl yeah?

just wanna know, how do you expect us to not do something like a crash gun with people like that

a whole group waiting for hours for a game and later party had to relog because of this

and i'm not even reporting this to moderation because the guy's gonna do a new account anyway.

[steep turret]

fighting fire with fire doesn't solve an issue

only makes the fire bigger

[thorny halo]

True but it gives a sense of safety

[grave temple]

Deep

[thorny halo]

As you are able to defend yourself

[steep turret]

a sense of safety? so you'd rather pretend to feel safe? I'm just curious

[thorny halo]

Also hackers get hardware banned

[elfin forge]

no i'd rather make the guy go tf out

and not make the whole group of ppl log off

[velvet quarry]

Try not to ping administrators directly unless its a very urgent moderation matter. Are you certain there aren't anyone in that group that could be inviting this person?

[steep turret]

you might have a spy

[grave temple]

Hackers get software banned and bounce back

[thorny halo]

Oof

I mean alot of hackers can just get around all kinds of bans

[steep turret]

at least the mods are taking steps

[elfin forge]

that is urgent @velvet quarry in my opinion at least

[grave temple]

A lot of what goes on in game works backwards but I ain’t trying to get dragged in any of it

[elfin forge]

this is a big problem in this game and noone is doing anything for it

[thorny halo]

It is

[ruby needle]

it is a problem and has to be reported but does not need a urgend response

[grave temple]

nor have my avatar stolen

[modern sand]

@elfin forge If you can send us proof of that over to [e-mail] please

[thorny halo]

Avatar stolen is my biggest problem

[elfin forge]

well tell me

how can i send you proof if i had my computer frozhen

[ruby needle]

logs

!outputlog

[steep turret]

yup

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

[grave temple]

logs and or clips if they make it obvious

[prisma timber]

Why not find the exploit in the sdk and patch it?

[ruby needle]

"why not just fix it"

oh its super easy right?

why dont you fix it

[thorny halo]

I mean there are some hackers who managed to fix it themselves

[steep turret]

no need for hostility

[grave temple]

ez fix bois

[steep turret]

that ain't gonna solve anything

[elfin forge]

it's not sdk

[thorny halo]

It does solve thr crashes

[elfin forge]

it's a client

[thorny halo]

Yup

[prisma timber]

I know it's not easy to fix but it can be fixed.

Oh

[elfin forge]

imma ask if some of the ppl that were there menaged to make a video

[thorny halo]

Seen lots of people with anti crasg

[velvet quarry]

Was it an invite+ instance?

[ruby needle]

anti crash?

[elfin forge]

oh yeah i can't even crash the guy because of anti crash

[thorny halo]

Crash*

[elfin forge]

how about you remove that admins?

[thorny halo]

They should put out the anti crash for everyone

[elfin forge]

i mean honestly

[thorny halo]

This fixes 9/10 crashers

[elfin forge]

i'm not even reporting him

[grave temple]

I’m surprised players got banned for anti crashing

[elfin forge]

he's just gonna do a new account

[steep turret]

I'm sure the admins are all busy with a shit ton of stuff tbh they can't just stop and address everything 24/7

[grave temple]

[thorny halo]

There is already a way to go around anti crash

[elfin forge]

and come after me again because he knows i'm the one

[thorny halo]

Including shader crashera

[elfin forge]

guess what i'll make something so fucked that not even anti crash would handle it

there.

[steep turret]

because that'll solve everything

[elfin forge]

you can't ban me if i'm using it for self defense against hackers

no

[thorny halo]

You will only get banned dude

[elfin forge]

but it'll make me feel better about myself there you go

[grave temple]

oof

[steep turret]

you sound like an angry kid bud

[elfin forge]

i am angry

[steep turret]

it's a video game

[grave temple]

Well have fun kids

Cya 👋

[elfin forge]

a group

[ruby needle]

this escalated quickly...

[steep turret]

bye icon

[elfin forge]

of almost 50 ppl

had to log odd

off

[modern sand]

@elfin forge If you don't plan on reporting that person, i'd ask to move on from this conversation please.

[steep turret]

so?

[elfin forge]

it's annoying

maybe you don't mind

but i do

because it's getting out of hand

how so many little kids are able to do that

it's getting very annoying

i can't go in public words cuz of that, at least lemme stay safe in private ones

because fun fact

[steep turret]

I go in public all the time

and I'm fine

[elfin forge]

they can come in intvite places

well you're lucky man

[steep turret]

if I get crashed I just log back in

[elfin forge]

i'm happy for you

[steep turret]

it takes 3 seconds

[elfin forge]

5 times just this morning for me

[thorny halo]

Maybe you have some frienda who have fked up friends who do that

[elfin forge]

well sorry but my pc isn't as good as yours

[thorny halo]

But otherwise normally public worlds should be relative safe

[elfin forge]

nope

ohwell

whatever

[steep turret]

zuku, bud, why not take a step back from the game for a bit and breathe

[elfin forge]

nothing's gonna be resolved by complainig

[steep turret]

it'll do ya some good

[elfin forge]

and no one will belive you unless you have something

my boy i've just come back from a walk in the city, and even hit the cinema on the way

try not to assume how my life works tyvm

and i'm out

[steep turret]

how very appropriate, lol.

[elfin forge]

he, sry about that merc, it's just annoying how often it happens to me

prolly because i know a lot of ppl

[covert chasm]

@elfin forge If you have an issue with a user invading your instances and crashing you, report them. If you won't report them, then we can't do anything about it-- and saying "do something about it" without following typical report procedures... well, we can't do anything. 🤔

[elfin forge]

no the problem is, my screen was forzen

i couldn't acces my desktop

[prisma timber]

I have a amd A8 apu and a amd RX560 4gb ddr5.

Plus 16gb of ddr3 ram.

[elfin forge]

how would i do that

[covert chasm]

If someone crashes you intentionally, yeah, that's usually what happens. VRChat stops responding.

The best thing you can do in that case is send us your output logs to moderation and describe the incident as best as possible.

[prisma timber]

I have been crashed once before.

[thorny halo]

I have been crashed so many times

[elfin forge]

they didn't crash us

they changed our viewpoint

[covert chasm]

Okay... but your screen was frozen?

[elfin forge]

and since i was saying i would report him

[covert chasm]

Oh, yes, that. Report to moderation email and include logs.

[elfin forge]

he crashed me

i was in vr that's the problem

[covert chasm]

Gotcha. Again, and I hate to sound like a broken record, but get your logs, and email moderation.

[prisma timber]

The people who crashed me had these crash gun things and could fly.

[elfin forge]

ok i'll try

dunno if the viewpoint thing will show

[covert chasm]

Make sure you get your logs immediately after the incident. If you restart VRChat, the logs are reset.

[thorny halo]

Vr screenshot is steamvr button + trigger

[vocal shard]

👌

[safe prism]

flying is easy though :x

[prisma timber]

Next time I see a cheater I'll take a screen shot of them.

[covert chasm]

Flying is done legitimately with colliders on avatars. It isn't necessarily modified clients.

[prisma timber]

Oh

[covert chasm]

I have a few flying avatars 😃

[thorny halo]

Haha xD

[safe prism]

i have a scuffed one where if i sneeze i go mach 2 in a circle

[elfin forge]

flying avatars isn't hacking

it's done by using unity stuff

[covert chasm]

Its a bug that people have been using to fly around. Been around quite a while.

[thorny halo]

You mean a feature :P

[lilac swan]

Users with full-body tracking enabled can also artificially move their VR playspace to "fly" up in the air or where ever they want

[prisma timber]

Not that kind of flying though.

Very fast flying.

[thorny halo]

Real hackers have legit flying

[vocal shard]

Is it possible to toggle the flight? Like if you wanted to walk normally under gravity again and then fly at will

[safe prism]

yes

[lilac swan]

Sure, just letting people know of the legit means

[vocal shard]

Nice

[covert chasm]

@thorny halo Nope, I didn't misspell it 😃

[thorny halo]

They can go through walls attach to someone else

:P

[grave temple]

Dayum Tupper can fly and I can’t? Pls ban

[safe prism]

WMR can walk through walls

they can move their playspace infinitely as a feature

[vocal shard]

But you can't headpat yourself

So not worth

[safe prism]

tru

[vocal shard]

report 🅱u🅱🅱er

[lilac swan]

Opening your menu and physically roomscaling through walls will make it look like your avatar is clipping through it

[safe prism]

openvr advanced settings can do that too, no need to walk~

[lilac swan]

Though the actual avatar position doesn't go with it

[safe prism]

be lazyyy

[prisma timber]

I wonder. If a model has no collision will it go through walls?

[thorny halo]

All models have

[safe prism]

no, vrchat adds collision

[thorny halo]

Its standard

[prisma timber]

Oh

[safe prism]

you can add more collision

[thorny halo]

Yup

[safe prism]

but not remove

[vocal shard]

If you travelled full circle around the entire earth with a wmr would you end up at the same point again in vr

Don't answer that ik

[safe prism]

no

[vocal shard]

I said

[safe prism]

no

[vocal shard]

Don't

[safe prism]

no

[prisma timber]

[safe prism]

yes

[vocal shard]

[safe prism]

ily

[vocal shard]

[safe prism]

[grave temple]

[solar coyote]

[thorny halo]

[grave temple]

ONE MONTH

[vocal shard]

[solar coyote]

4 YEARS

[prisma timber]

[vocal shard]

everyone just got diagnosed with the 1000 year 1 month disease

[grave temple]

Shiet anything but the perma ban

[covert chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMss1CeHOiM

[thorny halo]

Oof

[vocal shard]

OOF

[covert chasm]

[silk olive]

Mad boi hours

[solar coyote]

TUPPER STOP IT

[vocal shard]

oooooooooooooooof

[grave temple]

lmao but remember free my boi omenous

[covert chasm]

stop what

[thorny halo]

XD

[vocal shard]

xd

idk whos doing this but damn ur fast XD

[solar coyote]

god dam it dind't work oof

[vocal shard]

OOOOOOOOF

[prisma timber]

I'm gonna have to make myself or find one of those extremely memeish avatars soon.

[covert chasm]

okay I wanna do something else other than resetting names now

stahp

[vocal shard]

xd

❤

[cold talon]

Wasssaaaaaa

[vocal shard]

but damn 🅱upper ur one fast boi

[solar coyote]

❤

[grave temple]

Tupper sign my steam profile big fAn

[vocal shard]

[cold talon]

@solar coyote uhh i seee~

[solar coyote]

fanfic animation comming soon

[cold talon]

@vocal shard what in the world are you doing with your name

[vocal shard]

being a 🅱rbill wanna be

being cultured

[cold talon]

Ah understandable, carry on than

[vocal shard]

understandable, have a nice day!

[cold talon]

Have a nice day sir steals wallet and runs away

[vocal shard]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[cold talon]

sniff is that spammi?

[vocal shard]

nope

its called culture

[cold talon]

👀

[vocal shard]

one month

[solar coyote]

4 years?

[steep turret]

nani

[cold talon]

Culture drop: "!" has the lowes vaule in ASCII code hende why discord lists it at the top, followed by " " " and" ("

[solar coyote]

abuse yes?

[vocal shard]

wot

[cold talon]

Yes

[vocal shard]

basement?

[solar coyote]

ooooooh

[vocal shard]

oof

[rigid briar]

Me nickname

[vocal shard]

me getting de nicknames ;-;

Lol

What going on in here (:

nani

theyre giving me nicknames XD

[solar coyote]

this is supressing our culture

[vocal shard]

oof

omenous brudda

accept friend request and read dm

exdee

[cold talon]

Jesus criced

Those names

[solar coyote]

10/10 best admins

[vocal shard]

🅱R🅱ILL must stay on top xd

[cold talon]

Non!

U demoted

[vocal shard]

boi

u go home

u go home

[cold talon]

Dis is my home bro

[vocal shard]

SHOW ME DE HOME ME BRUDDA

vrchat home is very cultured yeas

@cursive rain u fucking legend XD

lul

[cursive rain]

they will not heed my requests @vocal shard

[cold talon]

Boiz

[solar coyote]

XDDDDDDDD

[cold talon]

Ur in big dodo

[solar coyote]

I saw that Tupper

[vocal shard]

omfg

[cursive rain]

Already got me man

[vocal shard]

nani desu ka

[cursive rain]

E

[vocal shard]

ooof

[solar coyote]

🅱 🅱ois asamble!

[vocal shard]

🇪

flexing on dem haters 🅱

[cursive rain]

cultured general chat

[steep turret]

🌮👌 so cultured

[vocal shard]

XD

white straight chat here lol

[cold talon]

🍿 just enjoing the show than

[steep turret]

nANI

[vocal shard]

same

[cold talon]

@vocal shard look at that in the distance!

[solar coyote]

❤

[vocal shard]

why in distance?

[cold talon]

Its the kanna gang ban wave!

[vocal shard]

4 Y e a r s

jixyn join us

XD

[cold talon]

Lel, how did you survive tho?

[vocal shard]

magik

oof

[zinc solar]

Why do map updates hate me sooooo much T-T

[safe prism]

one 🅱onth

D:

[blazing trellis]

what was the update for?

[zinc solar]

Yesterday I was 5 minutes late when the devs updated maps at 12pm and people had to wait 6 hours before it went public, so I woke up early today after making and adding some changes and sent request at 11:14am so I don't miss the 12am updates, 4 hours later no update =-=

[safe prism]

some people with their ear to the ground reported that update disables cameras on non-friends avatars

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zinc solar]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vShHzuZzQwULCu7KmWFGMj640oNRYH-M_N1BD30nRF5F9eqGYcLF0E-CTf48RE8qzAzDmv9eqJsdpma/pubhtml?gid=1122762578&single=true

[muted canyon]

That update is lame. Strangers taking pictures of my selfmade avatar was how I made my first VR chat friend. Instead of protecting the "privacy" of avatars and forcing new users to run around for many hours before they can upload their own avatar they should be working on proper multicore scaling. If you want a lame safe space you could be playing rec room.

[steep turret]

so if I take a pic of me and some rando dying for a selfie they won't appear? lamesauce

[pseudo bobcat]

i'll have to give that a go soon

if that's really what the update did then it's fucking retarded

hope it's not

[steep turret]

I'd have to agree

[pseudo bobcat]

screens taken, let's see if they worked

I can still see random pubbies in my screenshots, so that info is false

it's not restricted to friends only

[vocal shard]

VRCHAT in 3rd person

[safe prism]

um lol

everyone above has misinterpreted the information, and it doesn't seem like my information was true yet either.
talking unity cameras, not in-game ones.

[floral aspen]

where are people getting this info?

sounds like another unsubstantiated rumor

[indigo fern]

Rumor of the week?

[safe prism]

sorry, it doesn't seem to be true

just something a dev had talked about and some source (you can do the same thing this source did yourself, hint hint) had mentioned it being in this update.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[muted canyon]

Ok hope they don't put that in

[safe prism]

same but it's more a performance thing they attempted fixing a few months back, but a bug happened.

how you interpreted it was 100% not what i meant though.
i need to just shut up generally tho~

[floral aspen]

well, at least this one wasn't absolutely ridiculous like the one that said the hackers could fry your computer

[safe prism]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mild skiff]

tupper-ware

[lunar zenith]

I really hate playing Never have I ever with guys who try way to hard to be edgy, gross, or dumb sexual questions 🙄

[prisma timber]

How do you make an avatar fly?

[spare cypress]

Give it wings.

[zinc solar]

-Ba Dum Tss-

[vocal shard]

do people actually play never have i ever or is it the same deal as the werewolf game world

[uncut trail]

VRC got updated ?

[floral aspen]

no it did not

[ruby needle]

yes it did

but there is no patchnotes

(yet)

[floral aspen]

no announcement either

[safe prism]

https://steamdb.info/app/438100/depots/
it did, see steam

[plain ridge]

My guess is just some back end fixes.

[safe prism]

or tupper is predisposed~

[floral aspen]

probably no front end features added or changed. there was no beta test for this update

[safe prism]

he is moving after all

[true sky]

at least it fixes the login loop

[floral aspen]

what login loop?

[true sky]

that has been a problem

where you disconnect out of random and stuck in a loop

only way out is to restart vrchat

[mild garnet]

perdon yo soy chilena

hablo epañol

[floral aspen]

huh
haven't encountered that issue

[steep turret]

no hablo banjo

[true sky]

@mild garnet

i dont speak spanish

[mild garnet]

alguno habla español

[floral aspen]

no hablamos español

[mild garnet]

mmm...

ok

[floral aspen]

#spanish

@mild garnet

[mild garnet]

jeje

[crystal pewter]

how long does it take for VRChat SDK to allow me to upload avatars? ive had about like 9 play hours.... and was wondering how much longer until i can use fun avatars :0

[ruby needle]

Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also makeing some friends. Idling wont help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

[candid kiln]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/436247106089386005/449323946928635907/unknown.png?width=598&height=509

[crystal pewter]

Oooof rough

alright thankies

[crystal pewter]

i have another question if you dont mind me asking~ So since im not "trusted" yet, i cant use any other avatar except the default ones like unity-chan, etc?

[floral aspen]

no, you can go to avatar worlds and use the avatar pedestals to change your avatar

[crystal pewter]

Hmm... so i cant grab avatars from like any website or something? im stuck with default avatars and "random" avatar pedestals?

[floral aspen]

yeah, but theres dozens of avatar worlds with hundreds if not thousands of avatars to choose from

[crystal pewter]

i cant seem to find those worlds, do you have a server you know with a large avatar selection?

[floral aspen]

theres literally an avatar world section with the world selection menu

[crystal pewter]

ill look again, thanks!

[floral aspen]

np

[crystal pewter]

Ohhh i didnt scroll down... oopsie! Seems really counterproductive to not allow people to upload avatar's (i am making a concealed suggestion) but i do understand their standpoint, i just think the "bar" they put was too high. Is the trust system still in like a WIP?

[floral aspen]

idk if its WIP, but most seem to gain trusted status after a few days of playing. Personally I'm in favor of it as a deterrent for trolls since if they get banned its not like they can instantly turn around and make another account to reupload their crash avatars

(though there are some exceptions to the 24-48hr rule)

[crystal pewter]

maybe i misinterpreted, is it 24-48 hours of Playtime

[umbral reef]

Im for the system as it does its job- But everything else that isnt the system does not do its job so it becomes worthless

[crystal pewter]

or like days since~

[plain ridge]

It's not really a "Play this many hours or so and get access" It's a combination of play time, action while playing, etc.

[umbral reef]

We kinda do not know but the best guess we cna do from peeps reporting is playtime not a time gate

[crystal pewter]

From what i understand you need to actively talk to people, personally im not a very talky person so it seems like its only harder for people like me :p

[umbral reef]

just need to interact with humans, pretty sure they can not check if your speaking xD

[plain ridge]

If you are just logging on and leaving it afk to round up time, you probably won't get it any time soon. Got to just forget about the avatar aspect and enjoy the game/community. Will come eventually.

[floral aspen]

thats correct Eden. Its your playtime in combination with other factors

[crystal pewter]

arguably avatars are a major aspect of the game, it can be a conversation starter for example, i understand the trust system, but i think that you could improve the system much more if you allowed Avatar Searches ingame (checks every Avatar pedestal in the game with just a name and when you click it, it would load the image) or something similar

having the user search for avatars "randomly" is...

i dont know it just doesnt allow for much freedom

[umbral reef]

Thing for a function like that to work world owners and uploaders would need to throw there avatars as part of that

[plain ridge]

Well you really only need to search once and find a world or two that has avatars you like. After that you can head there every time you need an avatar until you get access to the sdk.

[umbral reef]

Also, a lot of things still have to be added and fixed
The game is far from done or at a full release

[floral aspen]

mhmm, gotta remember VRChat is an early access game. so technically its not just the trust system thats WIP, but the whole game itself

[safe prism]

spending under a week having positive interactions isn't too much to ask imo

make friends, then show your friends the avatar you've spent a week on

like instant "wowwww"

[plain ridge]

True, could spend the time waiting to get the sdk access creating/learning about avatar creation.

Ready to go with it once you get access.

[crystal pewter]

The game could be far from a full release, but adding a "feature" that "blocks" a major aspect of the game without adding counterparts to help find temporary avatars seems counterproductive to me

sure

[floral aspen]

its not blocking, just delaying

[crystal pewter]

there are avatar worlds

my bad, delaying*

[safe prism]

the avatar world category isn't a counterpart?

[crystal pewter]

that makes the user go through many lengths to find what they like

[safe prism]

soon world favoriting too, won't lose the world if it gets buried

well true, but you're doing that anyway for making avatars

[crystal pewter]

i disagree

[safe prism]

do you just pick the first MMD in your search?

nah, you find the one you like

[crystal pewter]

you can quickly find models for characters you want

searching the web

[safe prism]

not always

[plain ridge]

The biggest problem is just the number of people the game is getting now, the amount of trolls coming in, and a proven past of people abusing the avatar system as it was. When you could freely make avatars as soon as you joined, we had like 300 people online on a good day, everyone knew each other. The game has just gotten larger now and they had to adapt to that, the system may not be perfect in its current state, but it is helping.

[safe prism]

sometimes you're lucky

[floral aspen]

I just don't see the big deal in having to wait a few days. I mean, are you that impatient?

[crystal pewter]

i am an impatient person xD
But i can only afford to play a couple hours a week, maybe peoples schedules are different

so adding what seems to be 24-48 hours

is weeks for someone

or a couple of days for someone else

[umbral reef]

I often have to take phonecalls, open the door or be ready to deliver products when at home

[crystal pewter]

i dont think its that balanced

[safe prism]

no one's really sure what the real metrics are

[plain ridge]

It's not a minimum of 24 hours, some people have gotten access in less than 10

[umbral reef]

so its a pain for me to do any vr game

So i know how you feel

[crystal pewter]

i know its not a minimum of 24 hours

but someone mentioned the average

was 24-48 hours

so im basing my opinions on that average

[floral aspen]

Thats unfortunate, and I feel for you, but the devs can't adapt to everyone's schedules. And they had to do something to curb the incoming trolls, even if everyone doesn't agree with their methods

[plain ridge]

The average is only taken from the sample of those who have complained about how long it is taking usually.

Vast majority of people could be getting shorter times and just never mention it.

[ruby needle]

yes

and obviously you see people with longer times complain more often

[floral aspen]

mhmm, vocal minority and all that jazz

[safe prism]

maybe it takes so long because those people complain
and their aptitude for complaining is a negative interaction that makes it longer

xd

[ruby needle]

yes

[plain ridge]

In order for the system to work, we need to not know how it works.

[vocal shard]

[stable aurora]

[young dagger]

How do I see how many hours I have in game on individual accounts?

[floral aspen]

you mean like if you have multiple accounts and you want to see how many hours you have on each?

[young dagger]

Yes

[floral aspen]

I don't think there is a way. Steam only calculates total play time.

[hollow grove]

So lets talk about limiting materials on avatars..........

[ruby needle]

yes please

at lest limit it to 10 which already is way to much for nearly anything even if you go crazy with special shaders on a lot of stuff

[brittle robin]

Hello

Fellow VRChatters

[prisma timber]

Is there a way to increase jump height of an avatar?

[ruby needle]

no

the map can set a gravity value but not for the avatars it self

you can maybe work with the fly trick of a collider below you

to simply "fly" a bit higher then you would have jumped

[lilac swan]

As the creator of the world you're adding jump into - yes

Otherwise no

[prisma timber]

Jesus, just came across an avatar that killed my internet some how and it put a fog shader over everyone.

As soon as I killed vrchat with task manager internet went back up.

[stable aurora]

ya something similar happens to me

except vrchat sometimes just randomly kills my internet

sometimes when i'm randomly in worlds but mostly when i switch between them

get stuck on an empty screen and gotta close vrc with task manager :/

[young dagger]

Just get better graphics cards...

[light gyro]

Hey peeps, Im having an error with unity and the VRChat SDK and was wondering if anyone else had ran into it before, i cannot upload my avatar for testing until this is fixed any help is appreciated https://gyazo.com/2991fe1147475e16c4b0687d2cf1f2f6

[young dagger]

Is it possible to make avatars that can fly?

[ruby needle]

you need an avatar with enoght arm space and a atmospheric collider on them

then you wave your arms untill you lift off

[prisma timber]

I have a RX 560 4gb ddr5 gpu.

Should be good enouph?

[stable aurora]

1060 here 👋

[safe yacht]

There’s someone on right now that forces everyone to see a fake “new avatar” image. It covers all other things, you can’t open your menu or anything. Only thing is to quit the game entirely. They’re doing it on Great Pug maps.

[prisma timber]

Also I've noticed that my isp throttles games.

Even though they don't say anything about it in their tos they throttle specific things.

Only thing about throttling is traffic management.

[uncut trail]

WTF did STEAMVR do

can't move

[vocal shard]

does anyone know how long you have to wait to add a avatar when you make a new account?

Great Pug is pretty unplayable at the moment. Avoid it for now

When I join with avatars shown, I get the new avatar image. When I join with avatars hidden, I get thrown in an infinite loading loop.

I had to go home to get out.

[onyx patio]

I also avoid presentation rooms

those two things seem to draw the most nonsense

[vocal shard]

Avatar Testing has a lot of nonsense but nothing like that

Just lots of particles.

[onyx patio]

yeah, and massive avatars including myself

[vocal shard]

Massive avatars are okay in my book 👍

[onyx patio]

I'm curious, does the same model scaled up affect performance in any significant way

[vocal shard]

Shouldn't unless it does a lot of per pixel calculations in the shader

[onyx patio]

People were complaining about my big avatar in a Great Pug, but the normal version is the same thing

[vocal shard]

If its per vertex it shouldn't be too bad

[onyx patio]

no shaders, afaik

[vocal shard]

Shouldn't be too bad then

[onyx patio]

mkay, thanks

[vocal shard]

The large avatars can poke through the ceiling and show up on upper floors though

[onyx patio]

Yeah, it wasn't that

But that's been fun

I was just in the background for some people and when I turned big, they started complaining

even though they're all chock full of particles

and shaders

[vocal shard]

Only shaders I abuse myself are the toon shader and the scanline shader

[onyx patio]

yeah, I just work with the basic unity smoothness/metal sliders

[vocal shard]

I like the way the toon shader looks so I tend to use it a lot

And it isnt too expensive to draw

[clear flare]

saruf112 Just crashed my game some how, he asked a question about if i was a furry, when i said yes, a couple seconds later my game crashed, My friend told me after i crashed, he said "Nothing personal kid"

making me think he crashed my game

[vocal shard]

Certainly sounds like it.

Avoid life, you might die

[onyx patio]

Send the crashlog

[marsh swallow]

yeah sum guy just crashed me to

where do i find the crash log

i have a screenshot also

[covert chasm]

oh hey what's this #open-beta-info

[marsh swallow]

hey tupper, where should i send the crash long and stuff

for someone who is crashing me

[covert chasm]

#moderation-reports is the best place, or [e-mail]!

[marsh swallow]

itey

which one is the crash log? output_log or output_log1

[covert chasm]

Both!

[marsh swallow]

oh send i send a screenshot of both i suppose

reeee idk how to put the supporting media

[vocal shard]

Add an option for people to select whether or not they’d like to see cameras. Default off.

[covert chasm]

@vocal shard That's probably best posted in #feature-requests , or better yet, on the Canny 😃

[vocal shard]

Or change your viewport cam off of display 1

It will be. Just figured I’d post it now. I’m aware you aren’t content development. Kind of just killed a lot of very cool effects with gpu particles, data storing, chroma changes, and inventory systems with this though.

Which are far less intensive than what some people are running around with on base mmd models

And massive drawcalls

[covert chasm]

I won't go into too much detail here, but the fact that non-local cameras still worked was a bug. The viewport stealing just forced our hand to fix it ASAP.

It was always on the docket to be fixed, we just didn't have much pressure to push that button until now.

[vocal shard]

I’m sorry for discovering that. Unintended effect of an inventory system.

Would help if it didn’t overide display one

But yeah I feel you

[covert chasm]

Honestly, don't apologize. It is better that we know about this kind of stuff. There's probably a better way to fix it, which we can look at if you give us a good detailed feedback. That's the Best Timeline version of events.

[inner cape]

Oh, Tupper isn't just lurking again

[covert chasm]

I've been busy. 😛

[inner cape]

Great to see you once in a while.

[covert chasm]

I moved from the east coast to the west coast of the US. By driving.

[inner cape]

So that's why you were driving a truck recently.

[cold folio]

question.... for vr chat avatars, how long do you have to play to download it?i had a steam account-but it wont work for steam accounts, so i had to make a new one. (please @ me so i get an alert)

[covert chasm]

I need an image of Cirno in a big red ford f-150

[inner cape]

Put micro transactions in vrc, get rich, pay for a commission.

And you'll get any picture.

[modern sand]

@cold folio https://medium.com/@vrchat/trust-systems-content-gating-9e501de487fa

[inner cape]

Oh, Ruuubick as well

[vocal shard]

I’ll put it on the canny. But I do recommend just removing cameras that display on display one

Would be a very simple fix

@covert chasm

[inner cape]

Close

[cold folio]

thanks!!!

[inner cape]

Never mind

[covert chasm]

@vocal shard Gotcha. Putting it on the canny makes it visible to devs and easily linkable on our internal comms 😃

feel free to ping me with the link once you've got it up, i'm going afk for a bit

[tacit plank]

Modifying the SDK is illegal now? It used to be a "grey area" I believe

[inner cape]

Bruh

When was it legal and who told you that?

[tacit plank]

January to recently, multiple VRChat staff

[inner cape]

Eh?

[raven silo]

@tacit plank if you modify sdk or client it more bandable

[tacit plank]

Also, I bet you that at least 50% of avatars are over the polygon limit

If I was just slightly more certain, I'd bet my account on it

[raven silo]

if you talk about how to mod or change the sdk more like get get off vrchat discord

it cant be talk at all here

[inner cape]

Well, answer is simple, arise of malicious users have influenced the way they treat sdk modification.

[tacit plank]

I won't mention how it's done lol

[devout python]

your not supposed to modify the sdk but there can be some benefits to it but i would think the people that do it to help the game work along side the devs

[tacit plank]

Going a bit past 20k polygons is not malicious. That's the thing. It has almost no difference on performance until you go past 65535 polygons ((2^16)-1)
Merging textures more than makes up for it

[inner cape]

I did not say that is malicious. You know what I meant, cmon now.

[vocal shard]

https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/toggle-for-friends-only-camera

@covert chasm

[raven silo]

@vocal shard just have to wait see how many vote then look at it

[tacit plank]

I don't, actually. You can make an avatar which will lag everybody out without modifying anything. The problem isn't the SDK limits, but whenever you know what you're doing

[vocal shard]

He asked me to ping him

@raven silo

[raven silo]

@tacit plank but not good thing talk about change stuff in sdk best less people know about it then more if you do that then you have problems

with trolls

[tacit plank]

And if having 30k polygons instead of 20k barely influences performance, but makes avatar creation vastly easier, we're basically told by the staff "make sure that you waste hours decimating just because we say so"

If somebody is too much of a noob to change the SDK I doubt they know how to merge textures or texture atlas lol

[devout python]

those are two different things

[raven silo]

they need put limit on material before change ploygon up

that has to be first step

[tacit plank]

Merging textures and having more polygons? Yes, but if you do both at once, you will actually have a more optimized avatar

[prisma timber]

Caught my isp red handed throttling vrchat.

[raven silo]

if you give somone 30k no limit on material dont fix problem

[plain ridge]

The problem with allowing anything to be done with the SDK is that even if 80% of users are doing small things like slightly higher limits, there will always be people abusing it. It's simply easier to limit things completely and have a set guide on what is allowed and what is not. Can't allow for too much grey area in things.

[shy nest]

tbh, cats by default should merge all same materials when clicking "fix model", would at least make everything a little more optimized

[raven silo]

limit on material should be 10 or less

before publish

[shy nest]

since majority of models are from MMD that can have 20+ easily depending on the model

[prisma timber]

Why limit material?

[raven silo]

draws calls is problem with fps with material

[shy nest]

1 material = 1 draw call if i remember correctly

[raven silo]

less material better perfomance on the model need to be draw

[tacit plank]

I don't agree with the troll thing btw. If somebody has a laggy avatar, others will tell him/her

[plain ridge]

People do it on purpose. Do it already with the current limits.

[tacit plank]

When I tell people that their avatar hurts my FPS, they usually apologize and change it

[prisma timber]

Only 1 shader per material though...

[uncut trail]

Need MORE horror maps 😦

[tacit plank]

If you make a laggy avatar on purpose then you're an idiot, because blocking you would be easy

[raven silo]

@prisma timber there way to make shader work more then one color and texture

need Map color them

[tacit plank]

And particle effects, crashing effects, overlay shaders, etc. Would all be harder to detect and more malicious

[raven silo]

we have gate system now

[shy nest]

speaking of crashing effects, feels bad that VR users are starting to incorporate them into weapons to remove people they don't like

[raven silo]

report them then lose upload abitly

[wide quail]

What is open beta?

[tacit plank]

Trolling with slightly laggy avatars just seem cute compared

[shy nest]

go read it and fine out @wide quail

[raven silo]

@wide quail It open beta test new patch

[plain ridge]

A beta build of vrchat to test features prior to them being put into the official build

[raven silo]

but wonder how long it last might split up alot people lol

[shy nest]

I dont think it will, my guess the beta is only for smaller things. People will test them and move back to public build

[wide quail]

I thought we were already in open beta

[shy nest]

no we in early access

[tacit plank]

I guess my point is that if you ban everybody who has lewd avatars, bypass some SDK modification, use offensive language, etc... There will be nobody left. You'd have banned the whole playerbase

[raven silo]

there close beta to test patch before give to public

now they open that

anyone can test it now

[plain ridge]

I mean I don't blame people lol. When I came back after like 5 months I kept hearing people saying "Never go into Public Worlds". Initial thought was how bad could it possibly be, I already dealt with the kannas and knuckles. Been like 3 weeks and it's starting to kill me inside being in public worlds.

[wide quail]

You cant lewd in private?

[tacit plank]

Yeah

[prisma timber]

I noticed quite a few people forgot to remove "private parts" from the mmd models they imported into vrchat.

[raven silo]

@plain ridge i think you made knuckle world right

[plain ridge]

No lol

[shy nest]

first thing I check now @prisma timber

[raven silo]

though there was trap who made it

[plain ridge]

I quit about the time knuckles started.

I made an anti-knuckles world though

[tacit plank]

December last year?

[plain ridge]

I don't mind some lewd in my VR chat. What annoys me is going into worlds to find people spamming meme effects, screaming into mics, and crashing people with horse penises.

[tacit plank]

Same, never saw the humor in Emojis

[shy nest]

what do you mean 😂 👌 emojis are funny lmao xddddd

i think i just lost a few thousand braincells typing that

[tacit plank]

And "ironic shitposting" is the worst thing to happen to the internet since Megaupload shutting down

[plain ridge]

I miss times when the worst thing I would find is someone using the Ayaka avatar to be lewd.

[prisma timber]

Will saving avatars from avatar worlds become a thing in the future?

[shy nest]

hope not

[prisma timber]

?

[raven silo]

they have other plans for that

[plain ridge]

Point of them as of right now is to offer a temporary avatar for people to try out.

[tacit plank]

I doubt it, but Steam accounts with hacks can already change into any existing avatar in the game by will

[prisma timber]

Why not trap hackers in a bunch of servers just for hackers as a penalty, kind of like what dark souls does?

[plain ridge]

Sounds like a waste of server space. Might as well just ban them.

[ruby needle]

yes

[prisma timber]

Banning them will just cause them to make a new account.

[ruby needle]

putting them into a hacker dimmension..

[raven silo]

there gate system

[plain ridge]

That's where the new trust system comes in.

[ruby needle]

will cause them to make a new account too

[raven silo]

gate system will block from use upload

there not real info how it work ether

it can be moderation turn it on

all we could be know

[grave temple]

So hackers should be receiving perma bans for modded client

[tacit plank]

You can make new accounts if you're perma'd too

[grave temple]

Oh yeah that's right

they always bounce back

[tacit plank]

But I think the content gating system should have some effect, as long as they fix the issue with Steam accounts turning into any avatar (giving them the ability of VRChat accounts)

Does anyone know if the sound exploit is fixed? I have tinnitus so I don't like trolls with deafening avatars

[slender tendon]

Hey guys, quick question; I recently made an account for custom avatars (i was using the sign in through steam thing previously) and I got a message in unity saying i cannot upload avatars yet. would someone mind telling me what the time conditions that need to be met are for me to be able to upload some custom avatars? thanks!

[vocal shard]

They have hardware Id bans as well

the common guess is 24hr in game

but

it seems how much you socialize is also taken into account

worlds visited

friends made

etc

[slender tendon]

i see, alright, well thank you!

[tacit plank]

The content gating system should allow you to write your Steam account username and password, and then if that account seems good (low amount of blocks, many hours, many friends, etc) allow the VRChat account

[shy nest]

haha what

[tacit plank]

When you make a VRChat account, then if you already have a Steam account with 100 hours and no malicious behaviour, they could reward that

[shy nest]

you can idle 100 hours easily

[tacit plank]

You can do the same on VRChat accounts though. But their system should already know if you're a good user or not based on more than just your playtime

[vocal shard]

hello people of vrchat

[vocal shard]

hi there person of vrc

[vocal shard]

Does a message appear when you get votekicked out of an instance? I was just randomly taken to my home world and can't figure out why.

[devout island]

it does appear

that must've been a little lag out

[vocal shard]

The entire instance I was in seems to be gone so it looks like the whole thing just went down.

I was worried a group of people didn't like me throwing pillows around the top floor of the great pug

[devout island]

that never gets you in trouble

[abstract palm]

I got vr finally yayyyy

[vocal shard]

I just updated my desktop and the update failed and broke my computer there went all my hard work on avatars.. haha never have I wanted to throw something through a window so badly in my life.

[abstract palm]

Rip @-@

[raven silo]

@vocal shard if you get the window 10 undo changing update let your pc reboot 3 times then it pop up then disable window update and delete the window new update in unistall

[vocal shard]

@raven silo i have tried everything i cant even factory reset it

[tacit plank]

Can you take out the HDD, put it in another computer, and copy your unity project folder from it?

[onyx patio]

@tacit plank you can't idle in VRChat and get the ability to upload customs

just not how it works

but you can definitely just open a game in Steam and have 100 hours of non-malicious behavior by leaving it on

[uncut trail]

Need more scariest horror map'

[rough pulsar]

@vocal shard If you can't reset it or do a repair install (if that's even still a thing, I'd hope it is) and you have a spare (no matter how shitty) computer, you can at least get the important stuff off it.
Download a live linux CD (Ubuntu's an easy one to use) put it on a CD or USB drive, boot off it. Assuming the drive itself is fine you can just browse through it and copy it to wherever.
Then you can wipe the drive and do a clean install and pray no further windows updates fuck you over.
Thanks Microsoft. :|

[vocal shard]

So apparently a world with my world’s name was put up for publication

[velvet quarry]

I gave it a look, it seems like it's the same "location", but it's a different port of it. Not the same as yours.

[vocal shard]

The name is the same though. Could’ve used a different name.

A bit of an asshole move to use the exact same name when I specifically chose a version of it that wasn’t used and is difficult to type.

[velvet quarry]

I can imagine if there's suddenly a lot of worlds with identical names, that it might get a bit confusing

Not sure if this has happened a lot just yet

[vocal shard]

I am just petty enough to trash the world and deprive that community of my poopy avatars though for their efforts

Thanks for the info 😄

[velvet quarry]

Do keep in mind that us chat mods here don't handle any direct world verification, but we do have access to look into them, any choice on the publication of worlds and such are up to the actual staff.

[vocal shard]

Oh yes, I’m just prepared to not take this from the dot Hack community if it gets published, is all.

It’s just insulting, there’s like 4 other names they could’ve used, so I’m not a happy camper.

[stone geyser]

So, how long do we need to play before we can upload avatars? I wanna customize some already!

[velvet quarry]

There is no specific criteria that we know of, just generally play the game, socialize and be nice :v

[umbral reef]

or start praying to tbe best boy there is

Also known as oclac

[sterile pebble]

Can anyone help me fix my VRChat?

[lost raven]

hey is there a channel for help on models in unity

[sterile pebble]

I feel like I shouldn't be lagging super badly when I have a 1060 3GB and an i5 3.5ghz processor

Also, wouldn't that be the 3D Modeling tab?

[vocal shard]

Are you on desktop or VR? Are there others in the world?

[young dagger]

8 hours so far on my VRC account I think.

Must keep playing...

I mean, I got 24 hours in total.

But that is spread between accounts.

@lost raven use #avatars-2-general and #3d-modeling

[sterile pebble]

Ah sorry

I'm in VR when it lags :/

Everyone keeps telling me that I shouldn't be having low FPS but I do and idk why DX

[tacit plank]

Mirrors are dangerous for FPS, don't have too many programs open while on VR (Especially ones like Blender and Unity)
Be sure you're not running out of ram and that you're not using shitty security software like McAfee

[sterile pebble]

I don't use McAfee and I pretty much close any apps before playing >w<

Unity should be closed too unless I have to force close it?

[tacit plank]

Unity should close when you ask it to. Have you looked in the task manager while playing to see what resources you're using?

[sterile pebble]

I'll try again and check it to see what might be taking up space

[proper prism]

Hoi

[ocean bramble]

Moin

[rocky blaze]

oh boi there is a new trolling in vrchat

it grabs everyones POV and puts it somewhere else and you can only alt f4 to get out

[stable aurora]

is it that 4chan hacker again

pesky man

[hasty comet]

What happened to the VRChat calendar?

[young dagger]

What does the yellow exclamation mark mean?

https://i.imgur.com/x31paHu.png

OH, IT'S THE MESSAGE THAT I CAN UPLOAD AVATARS! YESSSS

😄

[graceful abyss]

@sterile pebble make sure you steamvr application vrchat slider is at 100% and not above. Increasing it might increase graphics quality, but it also causes horrible stuttering/lag, i put mine back down to 100% and it rund smooth now

You can also launch vrchat from steam and hold down left shift to bring up a menu, to launch it in vr low mode with even lowered graphics if it still doesnt help

[idle cipher]

someone's joining random worlds and locking everyone's camera to a random spot

[safe yacht]

Yah happened last night too

It also seems like the Pug is dead, at the moment

[median basalt]

I wonder, was the recent camera change an attempt to curb this exploit?

Since it's happening a lot lately

[safe yacht]

I’ve also had images forced on my camera.

[young dagger]

How do I center the cam in Unity on the model?

I lost it.

[winged quartz]

Change its coordinates @young dagger

Or click it and press F to center your screen to it

[median basalt]

Ah, the pug is dead because some guy basically joined every instance and messed it up

With hacks most likely

To be honest, the pug is trash anyway.

I rarely see VR users in there, probably because it's so fucking laggy and unoptimized

But hey, at least we got some graffiti for an ARG nobody cares about

[tacit plank]

I can join high pop pugs just fine with my 970, it doesn't run super good though

[median basalt]

CPU matters more than GPU, I have a 970 as well

It's just that nobody atlases their avatars, and the pug has a too high update rate for its maximum population

Also doesn't have baked lights most likely, and overlapping colliders etc.

It's a world of difference compared to japan shrine for instance

The Pug is only popular because its popularity sustains itself

It's a decent map altogether, but the optimization makes me want to kill myself

[stable aurora]

basically come to japanese shrine

[tacit plank]

Lol, Japan shrine does run better

[polar jasper]

Those are two quite different worlds.

[median basalt]

Performance seems to have steadily declined in the game anyway, that would explain why "Box (Lag-free)" is so popular lol

Personally, if I had a world as popular as the Pug, I would take some responsibility and actually make it run well

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[polar jasper]

The main issue is avatars though.

[median basalt]

But I guess the author doesn't care or doesn't know

Yeah, but the effect seems worse in the Pug. My baseline framerate is lower there to begin with.

Tbh I wish they would implement some material and dynamic bone limits on avatars

[gilded ferry]

Good morning~

[polar jasper]

We were around 40 in the pug this morning/last night and we only had performance issues (most of us anyway) when we got close to the world soft limit

[median basalt]

I stutter so badly in the Pug that I can't even use my menu

[polar jasper]

<@&397642795457970181> Can you get a vrchat mod to close down some of the Pug public instances? Many of them are stuck with the camera issue. (Seem to be the only ones up now)

[stable aurora]

morning kitty

[gilded ferry]

Morning Chipp~

[lilac swan]

Those people can just worst case restart their clients? Or do you mean to report it's happening to a lot of different instances?

[tacit plank]

I wonder how people are doing permanent changes to worlds

[vocal shard]

[gilded ferry]

o .o

Good morning Haganeth

[vocal shard]

hi...

[stable aurora]

good morning to you too haga

despite no naked pics

[vocal shard]

hi

u wot

[polar jasper]

@lilac swan No. I think there is a client in there, as all of them have 1 on them, that does it

[tacit plank]

You mean each instance has a person with a malicious shader?

[lilac swan]

Do you know which instances specifically?

[polar jasper]

2 sec, I can give you a list 😛

[vocal shard]

henlo

[stable aurora]

u can't say henlo that's my thing

[vocal shard]

henlo

[rapid heath]

you didn't trademark it soon enough

[stable aurora]

😦

henlo™

[polar jasper]

@lilac swan

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[vocal shard]

lohen

[lilac swan]

Thanks, I'll let the admin team know

[gilded ferry]

x'D

[vocal shard]

henlo

[young dagger]

Everyone in the biggest instance of The Great Pug is being messed up by some hacker or something. And everyone are pissed.

It's all grey and white, like hazy and foggy.

And when you first come here. A screen like this appears.

https://i.imgur.com/YOUv67Q.png

I'd be pleased if a mod would come and fix it.

[polar jasper]

They are aware of it or at least notified

[young dagger]

Yeah, I heard that 😃

[crimson lagoon]

anyone here that can help me with my mic?

[stone moth]

Hey does anyone know why out of my two buddies who dl'd at the same time: One is perfectly fine, but the other is unable to load into most worlds, it'll almost loop and then kick him to his home

@crimson lagoon what's your issue?

[crimson lagoon]

my mic seems to be on but people cant hear me

[stone moth]

What kind of mic is it?

[crimson lagoon]

promate earphones

[stone moth]

Make sure your computer recognizes them as headphones and not just an audio source, then check the system tab to be sure it's selected.

[crimson lagoon]

Yea im pretty sure its on the right settings

Is it possible for you to come over to my world and just check if you can hear me?

[stone moth]

sure man. Let me get my headphones on

[crimson lagoon]

Alright thanks

[rough pulsar]

@crimson lagoon Have you checked vrchat's mic volume is at full?
desktop mode: esc, slider thing at the left
VR: menu button, slider at left

[crimson lagoon]

The one that says mic level? Its max

[cold talon]

@crimson lagoon do you have multiple microphones?

You might have to select the input in vrchat if theres no audio at all.

omer you there?
Should I mark it as fixed? ✅

[young dagger]

All worlds I am in except Avatar Testing, parts of my body turn black, like they have no texture. Does anyone here have any idea why that might be?

Is it because I made them metallic?

[cold talon]

Is it just on a single model?

[young dagger]

Yes.

[cold talon]

🤔 could try turning down the metalic or use a different shader, probably interferes with some post procesing somewhere

[turbid agate]

Im som worlds, with proper metallic maps and emissives, a character looks drop dead gorgeous in VR.

[winged quartz]

My whole skin turns random colors depending where I look at 😩

[cold talon]

👀

[winged quartz]

locally

[cold talon]

Never experienced something like that, so i dont have info on it sorry : /

[winged quartz]

[cold talon]

But could you send a picture might be helpful to narrow it down a little

Oh hey gallium 👀

[rough pulsar]

That sounds like your shader @young dagger

Oh hi, just waiting around for dinner. :>

[young dagger]

How do I fix it @rough pulsar ?

Oh turn down metallic.

Is it possible to turn up metallic a little bit though? To give some more color?

[cold talon]

But metalic increases the shininess of the material 🤔 isnt there another slider like saturation that you could use?

[cold talon]

👀

[gilded ferry]

@crimson lagoon maybe you are deaf by default

Or muted by default