Still unplayable with 25 people
#vrchat-general-2
worthy swan
And this is after the update
Before we were able to rock 40+ with everyones regular avatars in use
leaden kiln
you can see it just watching the big streamer videos. They have top of the line machines and they still have to block avatars and they still lag
leaden kiln
that's not even a thing that should have to be voted on. It's common sense.
worthy swan
Whatever this update did, it killed the game for several people and prevents a lot of things from happening
leaden kiln
more than several
worthy swan
Yeah
Like ive seen some people with beef computers go
“Oh ive only lost a few frames”
THEY shouldnt even BE losing frames
keen chasm
I prefer fish computers
worthy swan
Agreed
worthy swan
From 90 to 30 for me
keen chasm
Don't worry. We'll buff out those scratches
ruby needle
12FPS full pug 
keen chasm
you're good you're good
floral aspen
until VRC can take advantage of multiple cores it doesn't matter how much of a badass machine you have. There will always be a little bit of lag in high population rooms. Though I do agree that if current performance is affecting a large number of users it needs to be addressed
surreal moth
never had a problem with my fps
leaden kiln
unless I go to like avatar testing, where I get 5 because they absolutely ruined it
worthy swan
Certain individuals havent experienced anything, a lot have.
floral aspen
yeah they went a little overboard with the mirrors in avatar testing. performance in that world isn't what it used to be
worthy swan
Few peoples have cancelled some community events or put out extreme restrictions after the update. Other players cant even get on
leaden kiln
a little, lol
leaden kiln
the cameras seem to be ok
worthy swan
Its whatever came with
I wish for it to be addressed somehow, bunch of players cant even get on through the home screen at times
leaden kiln
the home screen or the home room where you spawn directly in front of a mirror that lags you out?
worthy swan
Homeroom*
soft turret
yea
ruby needle
the homeroom should only lagg directly after loading as it spawn all the youtube stuff
soft turret
update defo made performance ass
worthy swan
Some peeps get 5 fps at the homeroom and cant leave and are forced to end program
vocal shard
I bet kitchen gun could save us.
leaden kiln
so glad I already had an optimized homeworld set
vocal shard
3 quick blasts and all our problems would be gone.
rocky blaze
i feel like the 4k screenshot thing is uses some of the bandwidth of the game maybe that's causing my issue cause i have to use discord to speak to people in game now or rather stick to low pop worlds just to be able to talk and hear people
floral aspen
screenshot are saved locally though...
leaden kiln
can you even run this game in 4k?
rocky blaze
cause before i'd be able to let avatars download in the background and still speak and hear everyone around me now i cant
floral aspen
yes, in desktop mode
worthy swan
Cant even stream the game in certain mid pop areas anymore. The minute it reachs 20+ people in presentstion room i have to bail, and when it gets higher then that I have to leave even without streaming
vocal shard
Just never interact with others
vocal shard
Become a cool social outcast in VRC
worthy swan
Due to lag
rocky blaze
this update has made me less social than i already am haha
vocal shard
Haha ekks dee
worthy swan
All I want is some like, “hey we know performance is down, we gonna fix dis shit” by the team
But the lack of communication is disheartening
rocky blaze
yea at least acknowledge that shit is happening in the annoucements
floral aspen
yeah I agree it would be nice if the development process was a little more open.
leaden kiln
they're probably a bit busy being buried in unstoppable hackers atm
floral aspen
Without a roadmap its hard to know how far along in development VRChat is
worthy swan
Ive even heard some peeps have blamed avatars, like.. Are you kidding me? If the avatar was fine before, how does it get worse suddenly
After an update, at that point itsnnot the player
rocky blaze
yep
worthy swan
There are so many bad things poppin up, idek if personally the game is worth to play outside a basic social aspect with small groups. Cant do big group things anymore
floral aspen
It would be cool if they opened up their development process like the subnautica devs did. public roadmap, public trello detailing every single addition and change made to the game from big things like new tools, creatures, or biomes, to tiny things like icons, and script changes. Hell, you could even check their github check-in description to see what changes to the backend code they made.
rocky blaze
also the voice prioritisation option that is borked too cause i think that helped me hear and speak to everyone while everyones avatars were jumping around in the room moving now it gives no sound and cant speak but with it off i can hear everyone and have small windows of talking
worthy swan
Thats why im unhappy
soft turret
big group things are difficult but there's no need to be so dramatic about it
worthy swan
Inagine how I feel when im usually 30 fps in some areas
soft turret
it's definitely going to be a temporary thing lol
rocky blaze
yesterday in the pub i had avatars blocked and i wasn't getting any frame rates it was that low, was saying 0-10 like boi and normal is 90-92
soft turret
remember it's still early access
worthy swan
If its gonna be a temporary thing, they should atleast address it. I can give slack if its been a few days, but a whole week of seeing my friends be extremely unhappy as they cant play the game they love anymore and several people unable to do the thinfs they could before. Yeah no, they need to say something at that point
The more time this keeps going on, the more people are gonna be unhappy
rocky blaze
i am slowly not playing the game anymore due to this
soft turret
true, but i put faith in the devs.
they're good on fixing issues thus far.
even if it does take weeks sometimes lol
small dev team what can ya do
worthy swan
They released a broken avatar that forced a restart of your client before, and didnt fix it until 2 months later
worthy swan
I have some faith, and the more they delay even as a small team, the more it causes issues. Problems like that should be addressed and looked out for immediately, ive seen smaller indie devs with more passion and care. Prove me wrong vr devs, please, I would love it. Love this god damn game so damn much
But im an extremely unhappy pickle atm
Communicate more with us, it’ll change a lot even if peeps need to take more time to string out updates
The lack of communication gives out an uncaring feeling to a lot of people which is why they are giving up. Even addressing the problem a little bit would do a lot to help
Ima go take a nap now
bronze moth
May I ask a question about computer specifications in this channel?
ruby needle
sure
bronze moth
Can I run Window mr with G4560 and 1050ti?
ruby needle
desktop definitely
vr maybe
you need to test
as vrchat doesnt really multi thread a dual core can perform ok
4gb vram should also be fine
but besides vrchat steamvr and oculus (if oculus) also use CPU resources but they SHOULD be fine with one other core
you wont multitask at all tho
bronze moth
Thank you for your reply!
floral aspen
yeah as long as you have decent single thread performance you should be fine. but like FPaul said, close all background programs first
soft turret
mann scroll on #announcements they've been good in the past with vocalizing their awareness of issues
opaque hawk
Do you think the cameras might have something to do with performance
iron heart
yeah i thought their awareness of issues and some announcements of them have been fine
i honestly think we just act like babies and complain way too much anyway in floods and floods. it may not feel like it but every single day i see all the channels on this discord blow up with complaints
it would be silly to think that all of us would get something to soothe us
cosmic sentinel
Salutations my friends.
iron heart
i've managed a community before and had to also look at the ban appeals emails and some other bug report emails, and oh my god there were SO MANY to deal with
it was fucking overwhelming
plus a lot of you really misbehave on here, you think that every single thing is gonna be solved just like that, in a snap
it won't
it'll be done when it's done
you joined a game that has a smaller team and most of you newbies can't even import a simpleass avatar anyway so what do you know. just wait and be patient already
i shouldn't have to scold some of you like a mother does but i feel like i have to now
if many of the people in the world building channel can be patient, then so can you. they've had to deal with a lot too but they've known forever that they just have to be patient
and if it's taking too long for you then go do something else
cosmic sentinel
I think perhaps there should be more of a presence of such tutelage on hand , since we have quite the diverse range in terms of age, understanding etc.
I believe, folks simply do not understand the work process.
iron heart
it takes simple empathy to understand it though
"small team"
"lots of complaints"
but sure, maybe i ought to be here to roast you all to remind you to stop being brats
cosmic sentinel
I understand that it must have been completely vexing to try and accommodate a whole chat room full of such things, but I believe its simply because people do not have that good sense
winged quartz
Oh
vocal shard
@vocal shard did you upload it yourself first / on your account?
gotta remove the blueprint id thing then
reasinged a new one?
inner cape
Did you log in with his account?
cosmic sentinel
Perhaps a form of sensitivity awareness would be ideal. But i imagine the damage had already been done.
winged quartz
Yeah, you can check if he's "able to upload avatars"
Check in Unity if he's able to upload
vocal shard
O_o
winged quartz
Curious
Oh
🤔
Disabled future proofing?
that future bullshit
that makes the upload take a lot to upload
Well uhh... I don't have Unity here to tell you rip
Just go to VRC SDK configs on Unity
You should find it easily
Curious
Try enabling it and uploading... if it doesn't work, disable it back
devout island
That happens when servers are wonky
winged quartz
Hi @vocal shard
devout island
Where are his shaders
devout island
Because that's what his name says
devout island
Kuri sounds like a good vrc name
vocal shard
I redid my model
devout island
What model was it
vocal shard
The miku 1
I fixed everything
🤔
The mouth is no longer broken
And i redid all the materials
For full customization
So i can change clothing to anything whenever
devout island
I wish I could do that
winged quartz
Too bad I'm very bad at Blender to do something likr that
vocal shard
Both eyes can be changed seperately
winged quartz
I can only do nice shit on Unity
vocal shard
O
devout island
I can't even do animations yet
vocal shard
In unity is where i can choose my textures
winged quartz
It's actually quite sad because I really wanted to be able to make Sunrider avatars
vocal shard
XD
winged quartz
Yeah, you choose them in Unity but
You can't just throw them there an expect it to work
vocal shard
I know
winged quartz
Specially when there are different shaders
vocal shard
I had to fix the uv mapping and textures in blender
Had to reassign different parts of the mesh
tacit plank
Met an invisible person, I'm guessing this log message has something to do with him?
uSpeak: OnSteamNetworkingMessageReceived: vrcPlayer is null!
devout island
I thought it was done with shaders
floral aspen
thats one way of doing it
tacit plank
They don't show up in the social menu
devout island
Modded client
kindred glacier
whats the point of hacking in a game which isnt really a game?
vrchat is more like a 3d version of facebook for me
floral aspen
trolls don't really need a reason to hack other than they're trolls
proper prism
Hoi ppl
leaden kiln
people hack facebook
junior fable
Guys I'm excited they mentioned playmaker in announcements
devout island
They'll implement it soon
devout island
For a short time
south oyster
when does the sale end? 😮
devout island
Not sure about that
junior fable
I think the 11th
inner cape
Wait, we'll have to buy playmaker to use it with vrc?
south oyster
from my understanding, yes
as there will be playmaker worlds that will require having playmaker
polar jasper
No, only the developer of the world is required to buy it
polar jasper
No need. If you want to create a world with playmaker you need to buy it. If you want to join a world that uses playmaker you don't have to do anything (than keeping your game up to date)
lilac swan
On what exactly?
lilac swan
Obviously, yes. If you want to use playmaker, you have to buy it. You don't expect VRchat to give out someone else's paid product for free, no?
hasty wedge
he means if u need playmaker to enter a world with playmaker
south oyster
^
lilac swan
lol no
hasty wedge
south oyster
ah I see, I was under the impression you needed it 😃 thanks for the clarification
lilac swan
Playmaker is just a scripting tool
south oyster
soft turret
how soon after playmaker is out can we expect the VRChat Skyrim port
south oyster
😮
next frigate
Think of it this way: if you're making a game, you need 3d software, 2d software, a programming environment, etc. But the person who buys the game does not need any of that.
lilac swan
Basically yeah
leaden kiln
unless it's this game, lol
south oyster
hmm, I may consider getting it anyway
soft turret
do great things vr-heart
south oyster
I worked with a program in the past called Alice, but I sucked at actual C++ code
with Microsoft visual studios
usually people tell me to try Java because its easier, but eh xD
next frigate
Well, C# IS easier to learn... Well, somewhat
next frigate
Yeah, that's fun. Each to their own XD
south oyster
I liked Alice since it made coding fun and easy xD
it had drop down options to choose from
like, if ball1 is within 1ft of ball2, then ball2 moves 5ft away or something like that
the final class project was to make a small game, i made a shooter 😄
@soft turret unfortunately I may have to pass on it 😉 need to save money
but I'll keep thinking about it
next frigate
Yeah, I remember using a program like that in school; then I moved on to Game Maker (which uses a language they made called GML, which I later found out is somewhat like simplified C#), then onto Unity (C#), which is still FAR easier than writing a program from scratch.
If you want something between Alice and full C#, I would STILL reccomend Game Maker. They've rebranded to Game Maker Studio, but I believe it still has a free version. It's got a strong drag and drop programming system, so you can still start with that, then as you get more comfortable with the commands it has, you gradually move from that into writing the same stuff in GML. It's very useful to help understand how programming flows.
A bit of a disclaimer though, I haven't been following their program for 4 or 5 years now, so it might have changed
soft turret
:[
south oyster
d'awe
@next frigate Ah I see, I feel like I've heard of that somewhere
I could be thinking of RPG Maker lol
next frigate
Well, it used to be SUPER popular before they rebranded and dropped the entire community it had built, which sucked.
south oyster
ah
what I didn't like about coding was having to comment every single line and explain what it did lol
which was tough if you didnt know what it did in the first place
next frigate
Well, RPG maker runs on Ruby (or at least the old ones did; maybe they changed) and didn't really help in learning actual programming, as far as I could tell.
south oyster
I had a friend help me with that class, passed with a C x_x
i started to learn about computers instead, buying parts and putting them together
next frigate
Yeah, it definitely takes a lot of practice to get "fluent" with programming...
south oyster
and troubleshooting techniques
a friend suggested i get into networking, but I'm not sure yet
its just a hobby for now
iron heart
Alice was terrible
Yet i made some trex collecting keys game in it also
Collision and shooter stuff is bad in it tho
south oyster
lol hiya mRage
iron heart
I think colleges are using unity now
south oyster
yeah I heard that too
indigo fern
Mine does at least
soft turret
unity will unite us all
iron heart
I still joke about bad animations in other gsmes now looking like when my friend and i messed with Alice and moving stuff in it
south oyster
soft turret
viva la revolucion
south oyster
😄
iron heart
At least it makes you get used to things like loops tho
But while loops were never hard i guess
I had set up a whole environment with wind blowing through trees
south oyster
I think my friend made a zombie game, where you run over zombies with your car lol
iron heart
And a train was going around the track
That's cool
My group partner was totally useless
I had to do my whole thing myself
south oyster
😦
south oyster
luckily we had to work alone when we made our games in Alice
vocal shard
henlo stonks
vocal shard
wat
south oyster
I grabbed a tank/APC from the assets and I took a 3D model of a pen and resized it and textured it black to look like a turret on the APC
then I took a tennis ball or something and put that inside the pen
iron heart
That's good practice for doing shit like that in blender
south oyster
then I had to set it to where if tennis ball is within 1 ft of ''enemy'' then enemy turns 90 degree angle
I don't remember too much
I set the enemies to follow the player, but i ran into an issue where the enemies would eventually converge and clip into each other
I wasn't sure how to fix that at the time
indigo fern
waddup acorn
south oyster
acorn 😄
iron heart
I can do some C++ shit but idk if it's gonna help me much for games
south oyster
I remember when I was a kid I wanted to work on video games, but now these days im just comfortable with working on my computer
ashen hatch
Same here
opaque hawk
I’m amazed that today kids are learning coding in school
ashen hatch
Working on video games seems way less appealing once you find out how much work it is
indigo fern
it's...
the afternoon already
well, nevermind, I can't say anything, I ate a bowl of cereal an hour ago
pseudo bobcat
devout island
Good afternoon
devout island
Let me see I have like 9 pics
indigo fern
oh, you need more
indigo fern
nop, not my waifu
devout island
Damn it
winged quartz
your uhh... waifu
devout island
I get a new one daily anyway
devout island
She's older than she looks
winged quartz
is her
vocal shard
Fbi starts knocking on the door
indigo fern
she's older than she looks
inner cape
Is there a way to make a particle system emit random particle textures so I don't have to make a ton of emitters?
winged quartz
"Nanachi (ナナチ, Nanachi) is a Narehate; a former child whose mind survived the 6th layer's curse in the Abyss. Possessing vast knowledge of the Abyss - its ecosystem, vegetation and even the use of the medicines, Nanachi is currently a part of Riko's party, assisting her in reaching the bottom of the Abyss. "
🤔
police car noises
indigo fern
former child, she aint no child anymore confirmed
vocal shard
Does human aging matter to Nanachi actually? Since they kinda mutated in the 6th layer...
devout island
She was turned into a sort of bunny because of Mitty
indigo fern
rip Mitty
devout island
I'm still crying today
devout island
If it's manga, I don't wanna read right now
winged quartz
it's reddit, ffs
devout island
It says spoilers
winged quartz
You actually managed to make me want to watch the anime
devout island
I'm underage btw
winged quartz
ffs I want to finish jojo already reeeeeeeeee
devout island
Stop watching it
winged quartz
fuck off
devout island
It's no good for you
winged quartz
Jojo is beautiful
devout island
MiA is anime of the year
winged quartz
isn't cory in the house the anime of the century
soft turret
made in abyss was the only anime i've watched that i was actually able to endure
vocal shard
Oh... Why didn't you say that in the first place?
soft turret
it's pretty alright, you guys
devout island
My hero academia doesn't get close
winged quartz
My Hero Academia was nice but
lilac swan
Just take your time and enjoy the JoJo ride, Bornato
winged quartz
too much bs
ruby needle
well it was the runing gag getting all other awards wasnt it? 😄
winged quartz
You know what I'm talking about then @lilac swan
devout island
@ruby needle Yeah
lilac swan
How far are you in?
vocal shard
Bornato, probably it would be better to see a JoJo reference now and then than binge watching the entire masterpiece
winged quartz
The minimum time that I get, I try focusing on map/avatar making
Nah, it's actually a pretty good anime @vocal shard
I didn't expect much tbh
but it's pretty good
lilac swan
It gets better
vocal shard
I know...
winged quartz
Yeah, they told me
lilac swan
Part 1 and 2 is still kickass
winged quartz
Told that the 3rd and 4th parts just get better
Yeah, the Part 1 got me in the feelings :'(
vocal shard
I think the artist was on lsd while making it xD
lilac swan
Part 4 is beautifully made
winged quartz
the art?
winged quartz
Oh well
I need to manage to continue watching
but I still have to finish Danganronpa (2) as well reee
winged quartz
but I can only play danganronpa at home as my notebook is pretty bad xd
vocal shard
Bornato, are you at the beginning stages of watching anime or in the middle stages?
winged quartz
Well
I don't watch a lot
Tbh before Jojo, I didn't watch anything since 2012/2013
I'm way more into games
I actually just don't like animes that are too much bs
"Oh no you will kill him" "Yes I will lol"
vocal shard
Oh, boy, I'm going to have to tell you that, days and nights will pass without you noticing them xD
indigo fern
That's why I like comedies*
winged quartz
"no don't do it" "I will lol"
Well, I try not watching a lot of anime so I don't focus the very little time I have only on them
As I still have my Youtube shit to continue, my maps to make, my everything aaaaaaaaa
vocal shard
Just like films many animes are soap operas
lilac swan
I can't think of any filler episodes in jojo, so I really liked that
inner cape
Aayy, jojo
winged quartz
and it doesn't even feel like they didn't put enough effort on it
lilac swan
I sent you the stuff, Ghosto
inner cape
Saw it.
lilac swan
👌
inner cape
Currently working on something else, will put it there later.
winged quartz
brb
vocal shard
But, I cheese many good parts of any anime that i know by spoiling myself with the manga, because for some reasons I love spoilers (O_0)...
i mean its the same thing, just presented in a different form
so its not really spoiling yourself
devout island
That's why I'm waiting for MiA season 2
winged quartz
When are they making Made in Heaven 2 😭
vocal shard
I get a sense of what is going to happen, and I can imagine how it's going to end up in its animated form... Many times I somehow can do so, even with ONE's chicken scratching it's the same experience for me...
vocal shard
mia?
devout island
Made in Abyss
vocal shard
No duh they are probably not see anything 😐
vocal shard
Not gonna see*
devout island
They're beautiful, trust me
vocal shard
Welp, then this was a nice short talk! Gotta go for now!
devout island
Me too
vocal shard
See ya!
winged quartz
There's a Nanachi on that MMD stage map that has this music, but with some male vocals in the back... does anyone know where that version is from? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh9lynUFikc
devout island
It's kinda impossible to get nanachi mmd models since the author removed them from bowlroll
Only available in a nicovideo community
devout island
You got lucky too
winged quartz
Anyway. Do you know where that version is from?
devout island
Let me see
winged quartz
It's an edit of Platinum Disco, but I don't know which one, if it's a meme, where it's from, meh
I just like that version xd
devout island
Oh can't hear it right now since I'm in school
hasty wedge
cant hear that song without the old spice ver hitting me LUUL
opaque hawk
It really isn’t hard
devout island
If you have the time
vocal shard
I have a weird bug where one person is muted for me and I'm muted for them, but neither of us have the other muted or blocked
winged quartz
vocal shard
What part do i do in blender
opaque hawk
Make a big cube and add vrc world prefab
opaque hawk
Done basic world
opaque hawk
Skybox isn’t super hard
devout island
Make a gta v apartment
vocal shard
Penthouse suite overseeing the city of vancouver
umbral reef
There is a diffrence between making a world and making a map
A world can be done with excess assets and stuff and its legit throwing things together untill it looks dope
Making a map where you got your own house that you want with own stuff
opaque hawk
Get six images that represent the skybox
umbral reef
That is learning how to use blender
opaque hawk
In unity you can make a skybox material
Add the images
World skybox is under lighting
opaque hawk
Finding the right buttons in your right clicks and menus is the hard part
You will also need to figure out how to get your pano to loop on a skybox
opaque hawk
It’s the same, but it’s 6 images
vocal shard
Ah
opaque hawk
Bottom, top, nsew
opaque hawk
Yep
floral aspen
so it looks like Oculus just showed off its new prototype headset
140 degree FoV
gloveless finger tracking
full body tracking with a single camera and no trackers/pucks
eye tracking
facial expression tracking
variable focus display
umbral reef
They showed it working or just as a thing
floral aspen
idk, I'm at work so I can't watch the video.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/8gjj2u/oculus_just_showed_off_a_new_rift_prototype_with/
This is just a prototype reveal though, not a Oculus Rift 2 announcement
umbral reef
Cool stuff
floral aspen
yeah, seems like a good indicator of what to expect for gen2 headsets
umbral reef
But i really wonder how the body tracking will work when you turn around because its only one camera
And how easy it will be to mess u the hand stuff
floral aspen
yeah I was wondering that myself
umbral reef
But the second i see new tech i want to abuse and destroy it 👀
Reasons why im not allowed to be the first person to play around with the robots at school
floral aspen
I'm most excited about the increased FoV and the variable focus display though
opaque hawk
Fingers crossed it has a hinge on the front
ruby needle
now THAT is an answere to the Vive Pro
if the price tag is going to be right 
but the eye tracking and especially moving screen part (varifocus) will increse the hardware costs by quite a bit
umbral reef
They dont need to throw everything on there proper V2
Can do a proper 1.5V like vive claims they did
and a full V2
ruby needle
umbral reef
One with better screen and full replace the old build
One with every new stuff at proper price
ruby needle
i wonder if the varifocus will be a game changer for Oculus since i think i saw them patenting the needed eye tracking technology
cus damn, that looks amazing... except when the motors die after exactly 3 years
umbral reef
Im legit hyped about the finger movement
As once that stuff works well
Ow boy its gonna flood out to other tech things
ruby needle
guess i gotta save money for a new pc and the headset in like 2-3 years
cus i belive it will require a bit more juice 
umbral reef
I gotta like upgrade everything 
But not enough money
ruby needle
same 
umbral reef
My headset cable is scuffed
I need a new pc
My keyboard is prob dying soon
Atleast i can play stardew valley now 
umbral reef
WAy more intensive then max settings fallout4 or the division
vocal shard
lol
ngl
my computer lags when im on max settings in starbound & i zoom out all the way
floral aspen
at least when the motors die in 3 years it will be time for gen 3 lol
but seriously though, if the eye tracking is good enough for a variable focus display I'm hoping thats going to open the door for foveated rendering
umbral reef
Also
Still gotta keep in mind that the devs have to start using it...
An system stays a gimmick if its to hard to use or never gets used..
opaque hawk
Star bound is good
umbral reef
Some insane innovations for some systems got removed because of that
floral aspen
very true
soft skiff
I picked up a Go last night
and just returned it
dead pixel in the left screen, smack dead center
opaque hawk
I’m looking forward to when vr headsets have self contained gpu
floral aspen
santa cruz is your answer akalink. It'll be a mobile SoC but still standalone nonetheless.
Wouldn't recommend the Go though. Only 3 DOF and no controllers
soft skiff
I picked it up to test WebVR projects on and possibly integrate 3DoF/click controller HMDs into my existing 6DoF/tracked controllers WebVR projects
but a dead pixel in the screen out of the box? Nah, I'll give Soccer Mom VR a pass.
golden violet
avatar uploads not working? getting red avatars
floral aspen
if you're getting red avatars clear your cache
golden violet
in managing uploaded content
it's showing the red question mark that indicates a failed red avatar
floral aspen
clear cache
lean coyote
I wish I could use all my old skin because I have like 1000 skin I have made and I can’t even scroll back to them
opaque hawk
That’s a lot of avatars
Have you thought about making a private avatar world to easily pick the avatar you want for the day
lean coyote
I have done that but you know someone was in a sever and they stole my avatar when even it was on private like 2 days ago
carmine dew
hey
golden violet
nope, cleared cache, still not working
carmine dew
too anyone that can I have reported this incident in the moderation area but also wanna state it here
lean coyote
It happened in the THE GREAT PUG
carmine dew
there is a guy called "CanYouNot" who has a gun which he keeps using to crash people non stop so please be on the look out
lean coyote
why can’t you just report him
lean coyote
The THE GREAT PUG sever has to be the most buggy’s sever when there lots the people on the sever
carmine dew
weso I did report him but im just stating it here so people can see and know to avoid em
devout island
And this last update just made things worse
tacit plank
@carmine dew Directly with the gun, or is he placing an object?
I was in a world with him earlier but I'm not sure if it was him or his friend who crashed me
carmine dew
he has a gun in which he pulls up and if it is aimed at you in your face or towards your face you will be crashed
he can either do it the way he wants to be really obvious which makes a loud noise when he is just holding it
or he can just straight up fire it which crashes you
honestly people just annoy me now a days on vrchat
tacit plank
I see. Yeah, people suck.
I crashed due to walking into a cube though, but that was likely an invisible player
devout island
So much trouble in public worlds
tacit plank
This was a friends+
devout island
It's even worse than I thought
lusty mortar
can anybody tell me the name of the song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amP6cGB3JBE&feature=youtu.be
tag me if u know it
devout island
Which one of those
tacit plank
I'm looking at every avatar of everyone who joined that world where I was crashed
lusty mortar
oops wrong link (fixed it)
tacit plank
Haven't found a box yet, but found an avatar URL which 404s
devout island
Must've been that one
median basalt
Oof, I got another one of those super-fancy models that don't have Ah, Your and There shape keys for some reason
tacit plank
Avatar thumbnail works, avatar image URL doesn't. I can't accuse random people though, the invisible guys might not show up in the log at all, in which case this one is innocent
The keys only appear when you translate the keys (if it's Japanese)
Otherwise, that sucks, idk if any other keys fit the sounds or not
devout island
I've found most of the time mmd models have copies of Ah, Your and There but with different names
median basalt
This particular creator simply doesn't seem to make Ah, Your and There shape keys
Instead, he includes like a gazillion different shape keys for the different mouth aspects
It's actually really good if you want to do them all by hand. There's like 10 different mouth shapes, shape keys for the teeth, tongue, etc
His models are always super high quality so I tend to favor those if I can
But it's kind of a pain if you just want quick lipsync
tacit plank
Can I get the artist name? I haven't found any avatars like that
opaque hawk
About to ask that as well
median basalt
I actually don't know the artist's name, all I found was a blog post with a bunch of models. They're all Touhou. I'm not even sure if this guy is the original artist or if he makes edits. I could DM you the blog thingy if you want
tacit plank
It is some fc2 link? I think I've been on it
median basalt
It's a nicovideo blog link apparently, had to dig into my history to find it
Luckily I only use Google Chrome to translate japanese sites, so it didn't take too long
tacit plank
Oh, I see, thank you for the link!
median basalt
Artist's name is Arlvit apparently
opaque hawk
I think I have his Marisa model
I’m mostly interested if he allows part harvesting, which if it’s the same person who made that Marisa model I have, then the answer is no
median basalt
I'm actually porting his Marisa model right now, lol
opaque hawk
Can you screen cap the model for me
median basalt
What's part harvesting? You mean taking parts off models and using them on others?
opaque hawk
Yep
Frankenstein original characters
I usually hunt on DeviantArt since there are lots of bases and parts there
opaque hawk
I use pmx editor to do it. Fairly simple since bones of the same name combine (don’t rely on this though)
Sorry typo
inner cape
I tried getting the pmx editor. I could barely even open a model.
Some were giving me an error in japanese, so I didn't even know what's wrong.
Maybe I just found a bad translated version.
opaque hawk
Maybe
opaque hawk
Search my username on YouTube, I have a tutorial that explains the interface
Or better PMX editor Overview "Tutorial" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJJdoZ6-RuU
inner cape
I'll check it out later. Good nighto.
opaque hawk
Blender > pmx e
But at least pmx e is simple
indigo fern
I start with pmx then move to blender after
vocal shard
anyword on oculus go?
winged quartz
"no" should be a good word for it
jaunty apex
theres info on the oculus gen 2 tho
little river
Hey everyone! I was asked to perform at tonight's ENDGAME at 7pm PST.
Has anyone attended before?
devout island
Never attended to it
vocal shard
@winged quartz Whys that? The go would be a great option to play VR chat with. Doesnt need full body tracking. Just add mouse and keyboard controls and simply stream the video from the PC to it via USB or something. Would open it up VR chat to many more people.
indigo fern
Glorified cardboard 2.0
ruby needle
i mean, the price is right i would say for what it is and for what it tries to be
jaunty apex
have you guys seen the update on the cv2?
carmine dew
the oculus go is a headset meant to be brought on the go and used for any needs for vr without the hefty price of a pc compatible or a phone that works on it
jaunty apex
well it's gen 2
ruby needle
but its damn nice 
carmine dew
the headset I dont believe though can be used for vrchat quite frankly because it can not connect to steam on it
ruby needle
i worry about priceing tho
carmine dew
only the oculus store
ruby needle
why... would that matter?
jaunty apex
yeah @ruby needle . An integrated facial expression tracker, fullbody tracking and gloveless hand tracking?
carmine dew
because vrchat is only found on steam or the website
carmine dew
and you cant use the internet on the oculus go or connect to steam so
you cant do either to download it
ruby needle
it already was on the oculus store and it will be again some when this year
and steam connection is never required if they write a client for it they have a client for it
however a client will never work in it
carmine dew
the oculus go uses absolutely nothing but the headset and the controller to run, although with the oculus it has the oculus website for all 1000 games it currently can play
but the steam games in which people want to run like vrchat they cant be done on the oculus go because you cant connect the go to a pc I believe and even if you did get it to the go it most likely wouldnt work
although either then that the go has many many games for very cheap prices with new deals everyday and the best lenses yet on the oculus
so its still a good idea to get it when you can
ruby needle
wait could the go potentially work the way the smartphone hack works currently
i can see that beeing a thing
carmine dew
well not really since the oculus go is set up quite differently but maybe it will work
but to hack the oculus go it might be a lot more difficult but who knows
vocal shard
indigo fern
tacit wing
that moment when you run out of space on your hard drive because you took too many vrchat pics
karmic locust
what would happen if were to hook something like Reshade into VRchat? Would it work, or would it not? Would i be doing something bad and get banned? hmmm
devout island
I wouldn't really recommend using it in general
ruby needle
why would you even want to hook something like that into vrchat
soft skiff
Returned my Go earlier today
out of the box with a dead pixel in the middle of the left screen
devout island
Good choice
vocal shard
@karmic locust i dont see why you'd get banned, its just post processing tech in game
but it might not sit well with the game itself in terms of usability or performance wise
uncut trail
What is this playmaker ?
devout island
Vive pro isn't really all that great
devout island
I don't understand who'd want a vive pro
warped urchin
eyetracking? 140* fov? facial expression tracking? Markerless body tracking? Finger Tracking?
boi
jaunty apex
vive pro isn't gen 2
warped urchin
sign me up
jaunty apex
half dome is
devout island
Good comparison lol
warped urchin
I mean it's true lmao
warped urchin
what oculus is doing is incredible
devout island
I was gonna buy vive but now seeing half dome, I'm gonna wait
warped urchin
yeah please don't buy a vive pro
vocal shard
whats dome?
devout island
Oh no, never gonna touch a vive pro
vocal shard
can i get som links
vocal shard
i dont use reddit lol
devout island
I mean holy shit this is great
vocal shard
oh
devout island
140 fov omg
warped urchin
the screens also autofocus
if you move something closer to the screen
so that's insane especially since it's got eye tracking and apparently presumed facial expression tracking too
warped urchin
https://i.imgur.com/yFWBf6R.png this is their apparently planned tracking system
vocal shard
whats oculus rn?
warped urchin
probably best to watch the whole f8 conference now
and yeah it'll probably be cheaper then vive
so im going for it
vocal shard
like $400 for oculus?
devout island
Yeah
vocal shard
im gonna guess gen 2 will be somewhere around $600 then
if not $500
they can kinda do that bc like i mean
they are owned by facebook lol
winged quartz
The biggest downside of it is that it's owned by zucc
warped urchin
oh well i mean sure facebook is a "red flag"
warped urchin
But I mean it's not even instrusive.
vocal shard
hes obviously an alien guys come on
warped urchin
It has amazing support, and updates all the time
I mean tbh
Oculus Home
is amazing compared to SteamVR I don't know how or why valve legit dropped the ball so damn hard on that
winged quartz
owned by zucc
vocal shard
daddy succ
vocal shard
zucc*
winged quartz
stay away
vocal shard
i cant spell
indigo fern
Robot-lizard hybrid, either way, he isn't human
knotty cosmos
yo does anyone else have to reload worlds instead of them instantly loading when u have been there before
kindred glacier
same
knotty cosmos
:/
knotty cosmos
suburban house n open mic night
full ivy
thorn latch
vocal shard
question whats the best shader for models in vrchat
devout island
I always use cubedshaders flat lit toon
vocal shard
where is that in unity
floral aspen
its a 3rd party shader that you have to download
floral aspen
cubedshaders good for anime/cartoon style avatars and some video game avatars
dull oar
I had no idea Cubed made those shaders for VRChat for the longest time. I thought it was just a generic toon shader that everyone used with Unity
vocal shard
k
devout island
Sometimes it gets buggy in game and it starts to show default shaders
floral aspen
lol you had no idea cubed made cubed shaders?
devout island
You should've seen tupper's tutorial, it explains about the use of cubedshaders
vocal shard
another question
whats the best setting for dyamnic bones
i want them too be flimsy yet i get them kinda stiff in my settings
dull oar
It's different for every model
devout island
And also depends if its hair, clothes, tails, ears
vocal shard
and boobs nah jk
devout island
I knew I forgot one
dull oar
Lol
vocal shard
some people gotta be careful with the boobs
like this one guy i met did it work
*wrong
something with his model
and the tits would clip though the bra
the avatar was a bikini model
devout island
I don't think he did it wrong
dull oar
Lol that's just bad weight painting
devout island
If it's not weight painted, it's intentional
vocal shard
probably a amateur mistake then
vocal shard
if he did it on purpose wouldn't he get banned
devout island
If it was very noticeable maybe
dull oar
Is nudity actually disallowed?
vocal shard
ive seen some naked furry models
dull oar
I see a nsfw checkbox in the upload thing
devout island
Good question
vocal shard
anyway how does one figure out they are breaking the rules besides reporting. like do the admins look and see what models you have downloaded or "hEY HE GOT TIDDERS"
devout island
I think only reporting works
dull oar
He got the tidders lol
devout island
lol
vocal shard
not on my christian server
also, ive notice something lately
how are people getting away with uploading models the size of buildings
dull oar
I don't think we're allowed to say in this discord
devout island
lol
vocal shard
just tried of having to dumb down models because they happen to be 5000 polygons too much
devout island
We can't discuss that here
vocal shard
yeah yeah yeah
if your models look bad after you only put down 5k polys then you aren't doing a terribly great job of decimating
lol
its not that
devout island
Depends on what materials you're decimating
dull oar
?
dull oar
Wait you can still decimate single mesh models
devout island
They need to have at least some materials
vocal shard
yeah ive tried before
dull oar
Are you using a plugin like CATS? It automates all of my decimation for me so I don't even have to worry about it
vocal shard
wait it can do that
dull oar
Omg yeah
You can also set it to not fuck up your fingers and keep your shapekeys intact
devout island
You have to be a bit careful with it though
vocal shard
i usually put it to fix bones
mental heron
isnt weird that maps take longer to download than usual
devout island
Depends on the map
mental heron
its probably me
vocal shard
this saved my life
i was able to decimate my model and it doesnt look liked anything even changed
floral aspen
that just means your model had way more polys than necessary
dull oar
@vocal shard lol
karmic locust
hey, meme man again, i checked with a mod, hes says reshade is cool and i wont get banned, and it also works
i think
maybe
yeah it works
karmic locust
that would be a particle, go on the unity asset store for those
vocal shard
I dont need it to be like that fam
cosmic veldt
Doh!
scarlet flare
Particles are dangerous and can make people mad at you, better to use shaders
vocal shard
"boo hoo my pc is absolute dogshit and i cant handle particles"
lol
mine is ass but thats my fault
its from like 2013
mental verge
Dont care about people make the particles cool if they cant handle it then they should block you and not complain to everyone
vocal shard
lol
yea
can someone help me with adding clothes on a model
im losing my mind and cant figure out why weighted paints isnt working like i want it too
please dm me. i really need some help
does uploading an avatar with a newer version of unity not let me upload it
ruby needle
if you issue that it gets stuck? if yes upload a new picture EVERY TIME with it
devout island
^
indigo fern
"You're so cute, you're probably a grown man in a little girl's body, but that's fine"
Oh, ok
safe prism
i wish i could just share the fixed SDK file ahha
like
seriously, move exactly one thing and bang, fixed uploading updates without images
cyan rapids
am i required to update the sdk or can i keep the one i already have downloaded? because i honestly dont wanna update mine
right now
iirc correctly im still using the 2-28-18 one
inner cape
Update. 
cyan rapids
but i dont wanna if there's all these issues
but if i cant upload anything unless i update it then i will
lofty mesa
Is there anyone on?
inner cape
Hello, Morte.
vocal shard
Hello, Morte.
alpine cove
@mental verge i would agree if blocking actually worked lol
vocal shard
@scarlet flare I just want a tiny flame above my head fam o.o
demon flame basically lol
Nothin epic or shit ton explosions
inner cape
Gotta find a good uv map of a fire and then just make a particle effect.
lofty mesa
Hello to Ghosto, Cool dude nd Cyhann
obsidian forum
yo i found some hacker named HazardSnipe stealing avatars in the friend+ Avatar Testing world
also, sorry if i posted this in the wrong place, not too sure which one of the channels is the correct place
vocal shard
obsidian forum
ah alright, tyvm
inner cape
@placid current Finally, a good intro. I've been waiting for it for so long.
scarlet flare
@vocal shard Lol, I wasn't trying to discourage you. Just be careful to keep it simple or optimized. The people who are complaining about those who mention lag are clearly not aware of what the purpose of my comment was.
inner cape
@placid current You didn't use the format at all. You deserve to be in my intro hall of fame.
placid current
@inner cape I am sorry. Which format? Are you being ironic or honest?
vocal shard
@scarlet flare oh i know lol i still want the flame tho xD
placid current
If there was a format I had to use like the several users before I am sorry that I didnt 😛
umbral reef
Its good you dont
The format is dumb, boring, bland, give shit information about who someone is and is boring to read
And the format is only a thing because people are sheep like and just follow the guy before them and no other reason
vocal shard
sheeple wake up
inner cape
I'm being honest, and I do have an intro hall of fame on my map, so I could put you there.
inner cape
silver socket
hi my mic isnt working in game and it works in other stuff but vrchat
inner cape
People who are smart enough to make something so simple - original and interesting deserve to be there.
tacit plank
Try changing mic in the options, uninstalling any voice changers, changing Windows device settings, etc
placid current
Yeah, hall of fame, I am coming xD
lofty mesa
I wonder which chat is fun?
inner cape
Not really, but I can make that. 🤔
placid current
😉
lofty mesa
Could anyone recommend me one world?
silver socket
ive done all that still nothing
vocal shard
Do it boi
inner cape
Might as well.
placid current
@silver socket I think you already chosed the right recording device in the system menu and you don´t have your mic on mute?
silver socket
its not on mute it was working fine the other day
inner cape
Every friday, 17:00 utc 0, the intro of the week will be announced.
tacit plank
Did you mess with the volume slider?
inner cape
silver socket
nah
tacit plank
Anyways I have to go now.
Try the usual VRChat fixes (validate files, etc), also specific avatar things can break the sound I've heard, try a default avatar
umbral reef
when testing the avatar make sure to go to default, restart the game and then test it
silver socket
still nothing
silver socket
still nothing i cant figure anything
umbral reef
And the volume mixer of windows does not list more then one output/input?
shy nest
got my rift back today, feels good to once again be apart of the master race
no longer pancake
inner cape
Ay. Welcome back.
umbral reef
One of us
One of us
One of us
silver socket
like it detects its but when i press v nothing
shy nest
would deff recommend not trying to play pancake after playing vr
inner cape
You gotta hold it if it's not on toggle.
silver socket
ye ik, nothing