#vrchat-general-2
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Same goes for petting unless i get what they want to do
interesting
Freaks me the puck out
ye need sauce
No that's digusting
was it any good at least?
Wow
They're not even over 18 so I just quit the server
And its the same as here but no 
Il kill you or meme you to ded
okay nevermind
Don't tease us
don't want the fbi
Yeah exactly
I can't seem to log in, it says my credentials are invalid and when I try to recover with my username it saids I don't exist now
Smh fbi just looking to chill
@umbral reef my kyubey is hidden under a halo model helmet
@vocal shard Should have reported it to discord man
can't get any better than that
Told the person I'll hear them out if they want to vent but other than that I'm not gonna hang around for long
that stuff can land people posting it in jail and shit
@jaunty apex ow shit your one of those
hell yeah
I mean I'd rather not butt in
i love to do a close-up on someone's face and then showing them who's under the helmet
I was apparently part of a anti jew group but the guys where friendly as fuck and me being inactive didnt realize that there memes where kinda meant and not just odd jokes 
LOL
I still dont get why im allowed to learn for the job im learning at times
Im to dumb to notice racism
i wonder how you got in that discord server tho ๐ค
Ow i talked with the guys on vrchat
and they invited me
And then i went inactive the day after the invite because internshippuu and school
are you sure they weren't just offensive memers?
and once i read up on the weekend i noped the fuck out
Dude
Most ignorant people that are racists and ect are not offensive...
Thats the thing
And yea
as long as they aren't serious
There is legit nothing i cant laugh or joke about in this world
Its kinda so bad that i joke about a illness where if i lost one 0.5 KG at the end of the week i would be hospitalized and forcefed spacefood 
Take a guess what my go to joke thing is within my group
there's a website
with a lot of offensive memes
but i can't stand seeing the comments
since its people actually being offensive in a serious way
Did they read or did they want fun memes
what do you mean
Anyone from the vrchat team can help me? My account suddenly doesn't exist anymore
Yeah it's honestly hard to tell when someone is really a racist
especially when I love dark humor
But I try to joke about it when the TPO is appropriate
@pearl stag best to email them
oh, where can i find their email?
hey guys
support@vrchat.com @pearl stag
ty @umbral reef
omg its like 3rd time today that someone stole my avatar
whatya think
try again with my kinect for full body tracking or buy vive trackers
beening for anwser for that question
been waiting*
yesterday, I met this person who have full body tracking
and was on a dance pole in some club
so it got me hype to buy a tracker but idk which one
@fervent crypt What do you mean?
Welp. I've learned now that VRC doesn't allow volumetric lighting. ๐ My loss.
At least I learned about it.
I can't login through steam. Does anyone have the same problem ?
Tried loggin on with a VRC account, and it's okay
I havent been on a public server in like amonth.
Cause of them.
I rathr stay safe lol.
it's actually not that bad
I wont risk it lol.
most of them already got tired since streamers for example have everyone blocked by default
and now that there is the panic button you don't need to alt f4 or anything, you can just do that while ingame
and just change world
because people don't re-upload their avatar
Doesnt matter.
not if it's something server sided
i doubt they can ignore something that blocks everyone
We shall see, but yeah make sure to reupload your characters.
wait till when other parts of the world on summer vacations.... im kinda scared to think of this
you guys worry too much
anyone know of a friggen guide for that horror maze map? i just want to finish it so my friends stop dragging me there
not infinite space
Do u also sometimes have issues uploading an avatar
and then it doesnt appear in ur list?
It takes a while to show up then. Just happened earlier today for me. Tried uploading two and it took a while for them to show up.
cause usually i see them instantly
Yeah just give it a while some are instant and other times it takes a bit of time.
hey guys how much does avatar commissions cost?
20 dollars per hour seems to be the popular one.
minimum i've seen was 10-15
hmmmm
seems fair how long does a typical creation cost
need to plan my budget for pc vive n stuff
Depends on how detailed you want it to be tbh
but I'm just guessing here
like 15-25 hours for an avatar from the ground up
I think???
dunno really, i dont even have vrchat installed because my pc cant run it. ๐ฆ
thats gonna run quite the bill D:
just thinking a good avatar will help socialize better
Maybe download a mmd from somewhere and get someone to fix the bones
I just want to commission my OC so I can promote my web series, but most of the money I've been making has been going to the house
so I have no budget ๐ซ
anyone?
?
@green furnace there are lots of good free models
no need to pay for commissions unless you're really picky
commissions usually are above the 200 pounds mark. Which is normal for the time it takes to do them
you can get a free model and pay me, its a win-win for both of us
:I
;3
get a regular mmd, once youre more invested into the game you can still get a comissioned one
how hard would the model be to create @green furnace
handz off my potential customers
i want my vrchat
the longer im i the real world the worse it gets
if you cant pet cute anime girls then whats the point of living
@vale palm who would want a free model anyways >:I
i have the feeling some people really shoud do somethign against vr addiction
that is not gonna help allready adicted people
*
tell them to stop being addicted 
i stopped smoking weed because it made me shyer in vr
i mean

started drinking beers tho but i put an end to that
it makes me not lonely
it isnt too different than going to bars or some shit but the people tend to be nicer and arent competing wih each other like monkies
Kinda funny how I sorta semi-basic learned Unity through VRchat. And now I am here building games with Unreal. ๐

i was here when no one else was 
Well, we kinda already have a whole team working on it, and a following. ๐
is hthat what the knuckles were after!?!? a way to escape the real world!?
@vocal shard don't say those words >:I
sorry please forgive me
๐ฆ pls no dot
and lol
I took a knuckles to that "the way" world where its a grave stone sayng the meme is dead
and he gave me a long speech about how the way is inside of us all
wish I recorded it
i have no social rl, and i feel bad about my social skills so i wanna get vr to make friends so im not lonely. improve myself. Think a good vr avatar will help with that if its got some good tricks ya know since im not very standout myself
it is helping me a lot
at first I couldnt even talk in vr and logged out a few times someone spoke to me
now I can walk up to people in vr no fear
dont worry
its just exposure
when you find your voice you'll find yourself
you know what exposure therapy is? they used old school vr headsets back in the day to put people on airplanes and shit
and it worked great
same shiz but with people
ok im done with league who was asking about the avatar?
Pokes @jaunty apex in the cheeks :3
how tf do i open the barrier in great pug?
scrim somebody got the passcode
theres a password
some people are able to guess it and change stuff in the pug
just use the bsck stairs
anyone else having issues logging in through steam
??
https://www.twitch.tv/beimer123 Go check this guy out, he streams a lot and he deserves some respec
yes
a lot are
there is a #vrchat-livestreams channel do advertice that ๐
thats why im even here instead of in vr world
@green furnace Add me (same name as on here) and if you want to hang out while online just join/invite me ;)
Been talking with a ton of more shy peeps and i always think they are the most fun so dont be scared to ;p
Also i meet plenty of new peeps daily so the odds im with a group that will also enjoy you is big
was asking people about tracker and still didnt get any feedback
VRChat has been helping me talk a bit more, so I guess that's nice
That and because I'm a shut in, it helps me feel like I'm not that lonely
I went from being social online to being a shy guy to being social with strangers again
But i still never join peeps i befriended before unless they are in a publick world
@umbral reef aww thank you
And even then it just feels so Eeeeeee to join them >.>
now i really wanna upgrade my pc ๐ฎ

i dont know much but whats the question alakazam
i do currently have school related stuff every day for like 12h with travel so the odds of me playing on work days are tiny : s
i tried vr for 3 days straight hopping worlds with my scuffed laptop but i didn't find any good instances just people screaming oioioi or show me da whey
Dx
Welp that kinda sums up most publick worlds
Dx
ok hi @open sinew since no one answer ur question
try to get vive tracker
it work better than kinect
oh thank god. a helpful person
hey @green furnace if you ever need someone to talk to or do stuff, you can add me too if you want ๐ i have been where you are
so my oculus was overheating a couple days ago and I haven't been on my computer since then. I come back on and see that the computer isn't detecting any of my Oculus hardware being plugged in. how do I fix this
maybe you should recalibrate them and pull out all of the usb-ports and put them back in
how was it overheating? 
ok
but how can you overheat it (like so its out of spec) in winter? ๐
i mean, sure it gets warm ๐
but warm != overheating
when you dont have the headset on, the screens will go off
when I restarted the rift, the video and audio would turn on for 5 seconds, go blank for 5 seconds, go back to the home, rinse and repeat
hmm
now my pc isn't detecting any rift input at all
it shouldnt really get hot unless actually wearing it ๐ค
have you tried chaning ports around?
and if that doesnt help remove them and delete the driver
then start new install?
let me see
get a tool callend "driveCleanup"
and run that after disconnecting
it removes all usb infos of devices not connected anymore
so it should also load all the infos again when plugin in
^ this will probably work
ok something weird happened and it's somehow working again
gratz
I ran the oculus driver executable and somehow it's working
the oculus drivers should always run when youre going to play a Vr game
yeah
it also starts when you put on headset
like when its orange (nothing initialized yet)
ugh. i wanna make an avatar with a tail but i dont want people to think im a furry ๐ท
Just got a week ban for violating community guidelines lmao
it doesnt have to be yannie
not everyone thinks that, including me
what did you do barry?
dont know I was tabbed out & working on a model at the time
well that sucks :/
where you afk with your mic on maybe?
nah i have it muted
So uh, what are the chances of requesting a 3D model for free if you don't have a budget?
0.00000000001%
a stiched togehter mmd if at all
That sounds about right
its pretty fun finding out by yourself and how everything works
who pinged me 
@jaunty apex doot doot 
:I
I was thinking if it was possible to draw something in different angles
and somehow make it into a 3D model like that
or a program that does that or something
I know people do that for 3D printing though
They take multiple pictures on their phone or camera
and they run it through some software
not sure if it's possible to do that with my character since 2D drawings practically have no depth
Taking multiple photos of a real object and reconstructing it in 3D is called Photogrammetry.
That's sort of what I was looking for, yeah
but is it possible with something like this?
If you did that on a drawing of a character, you'd end up with a lovely 3D model of the piece of paper you drew it on. :P
It was me @jaunty apex
I'd have to redraw it multiple times.
Which would be more time efficient than learning how to create 3D models.
what was it for?
you were asking how complex i want my avatar to judge commission price
pets dotdot btw :3
you gotta pay to pet this loli
Even then it wouldn't work, since photogrammetry works because the physical surface being reconstructed is consistent across the different photos. Getting a drawing to be that perfect would take more skill and practice than learning how to model it yourself via traditional means.
tl;dr, learn character modeling. You'll pick up loads of useful techniques for other stuff on the way.
So If i wanted to make my avatar say a guy in a hot air balloon that floats and can drop fireworks. Sound err too hard or no
mini hotair balloon*
you can
Damn it,.
huh it depends if there are models you can use for it
and if they are for free distribution
I guess I'll just
if that's the case, it's super simple to do
try my luck in traders and keep asking.
whats traders
Place where you normally commission stuff for VRChat.
yeah
If I had time or interest then I wouldn't be asking here tbh.
Even then I can't really save up since all the money I make goes to my house
I'll DM it, yeah.
hey be happy pursuit you got a house ๐
thats good work
<-- still stuck on supermarket wages
Well I worded it out wrong
It's not my house it's just my parents. Staying here until I can pay for my own rent
still good enough :^)
<โ still in high school and working hard
But all the money I make from art commissions
just goes towards bills
Don't really have any money for myself.
story of my life
that realy sucks man :/
yep
oh yeah that traders link? owo
Is there a way to view the world u recently visited?
nope
Oh uhm hi Met
sup ^^
i need help, vrchat is logging me out and when it says its logging me in it freezes, how do i stop it from logging me out? @covert chasm
check out #user-support-old 's pins
lol, im not logging in, in general
its very slow or idk
it finished logging me in then the loading thing disappears and im stuck in space
Well
fuck
"Neither the original HTC Vive nor the first generation of Vive Trackers work with the newer SteamVR Tracking 2.0 base stations"
so my only option for trackers is buy them for 300
or get a new freeking vive
FeelsBadMan
http://prntscr.com/iknhri i can't unsee what i have seen
HTC vive pro can buy bought as an UPGRADE kit to current vive
but doesnt include new base stations
"let's take care of the kid, together"
So i would have to pay either way 300โฌ cause logic
xD @vocal shard
@broken onyx IKR
Euch
also i found these and they're sadly as close to what im trying to use for my edit....
@kindred glacier nothing that has the first generation sensors will work with the v2 lighthouses.
The reverse works though. v1 lighthouses will work with devices with either v1 or v2 sensors.
so.... i can keep my controllers?
Unless your setup will benefit from the new lighthouses (larger than 4m square, need 3+ lighthouses due to weird occlusion zones, etc) you can happily run everything with the v1 lighthouses that come with the standard vive.
Is vrchat ok
That even means a mix, such as a vive pro and gen 1 trackers and controllers.
what event do i use for activating video player?
Play botton
-.-
windows media player

if you use the prefab in the sdk you should have a working one.
Also it shows you what is actually on it.
rip steam
goodnight everyone
gn ^^
first my unity dosnt work and i cant log in just can clear my cache and now im stucked in the infinit space when i wanna log in GG
i hate my life right now......im in immense pain.....
?
cramps.....they fucking hurt so bad
i took pain killers and have a heating pad but nothings helping.....just fuck my life rn
it literally feels like i was stabbed in my lower abdomen by a spear
or somethin'
Do you try take some hot water or lay down relax?
I just logged into my account and it's been reset as if it was new
had a fungal skin infection that lead into a bacterial infection around my inner thighs, legs then spread to my privates recently. had it for 3 months started december only about gone now
and the display name is now the same as my email address before the @
does anyone know why that might happen?
I've lost all my avatars and friends :(
literally one week i was disabled couldn't move on my bed as any movement was extreme pain, painkillers only worked for an hour which was the window id try to sleep, but id only get about 4 hours till the pain woke me up
hmmm
ask bug report?
shit i should be sleeping work in 4 hours zzzzzzz
@green furnace shit..... but its kinda bad once you realize WHY i have cramps (im not saying it)
but yeah that didn't sound fun at all
but yeah i tried the hot water, the damn painkillers shoulda kicked in by now
that or my mom got the 100mg again.....which means if she did then i technically took less then what im supposed to
Hum..What happen to you?
........its personal
id rather not say........
trust me......ill let you guys figure it out
Oh, sorry
Oh, boy this game is the best meme.
This game is meme content
I am totally new to it, so people just casually talking about Blender and Unity makes me feel like a dunce.
But I have already seen several Ugandan Knuckles.
Don't worry
Thats when if you want your own personal avatar
didnt we steal meme of january
VR Chat is all the memes and cancer of the internet, compressed into a single chatroom.
But somehow, everyone is nice!
Sometimes
It is perfect I tell you, perfect!
You'll eventually meet rude people
yeah the ugandans are paying for the wall
learning social skills when rude people are around
Also, this game promotes a heresy that I cannot tolerate.
That girls are in fact, on the internet.
However as we all know, there are in fact no girls on the internet.
Just men with high pitched voices.
I love the leprechaun trolls
do cginc shaders work in VRChat?
might as well, at least you won't get banned from gmod
is trying to get a streamer banned bannable?
yes?
because you will obviously attempt something that is ban worthy
which means you do it your self
you know
๐ค
but yeah normally to get someone banned you hav to do stuff that is bann worthy your self
so its obviously bannable
luckily he mutes his game sound while he's singing so it wasn't audible on stream
the worst part anyway
he got right in his face and said "I don't listen to n***** music"
holy rack didnt expect a wall of text in #vrchat-support
there's a lot to support
thank you tupper once again for being support class
wot mainly because its a update of everything i guess
oh, he just updated it with the automatic cache clearing methods
spell check my butt
So I uploaded a model earlier, it was too big so I just resized it and reuploaded.
Unity says model upload successful after I build and published it
but it wont show up ingame or on my unity model list. whats going on?
oh, I already deleted the 1st model from the VRChat content tab in unity
what should I do?
detatch the id and upload it as a completely new one
first time ban, banned for a week cuz i used an avatar i found in a public world
man these mods are top notch

what avatar was it ๐ค
inb4 lewd yamakaze
Hitler, but I'd have thought that if it's a public world it means they've approved it. would've been fine if they just told me to change it & i could've shown them the world but instead they decide to give me a week ban. Nobody in the lobby was complaining, had a couple people laughing as well. still since the standard ban is 24 hours, 7 days is a bit of a piss take.
then i tried to get through on support email & they brushed me off
whole thing is a bit of a farce tbh
ah. hmm really unlucky combination of things
how do i use a controller, after the recent updates it won't work for me anymore
@grim wren hi
Moike how'd you like it if you got banned for 7 times the standard without a reason, have to contact the mods & ask them to be somewhat specific and it turns out it was because you selected a particular avatar from a public avatar world that they themselves have approved?
Dude, I don't even know how many accounts I've re-made at this point.
What I try to remember is that the software is handled by a small team who are recently dealing with some incredibly tough scaling issues due to an unexpected upswing in popularity
and shit occasionally goes sideways, and I roll with it
I understand that, it still doesn't explain why they've given me 7 times the standard ban for using approved content.
I'd be fine with it if they were like "Ok we made a mistake blah blah blah" even if they gave me the standard 24h ban I'd be much happier with that.
Also making a new account is out of the question as my ISP makes it incredibly hard to change my IP without buying a different router.
Not too interested in circumventing the ban, would rather just go through the proper channels
well maybe you should file a ticket
I did, it's been a couple hours since my last email to them & no reply.
They only replied to my first 2 emails which told me the reason for my ban, didnt state the community guideline i broke like i asked though.
Also asked me which avatar world I got it from, which I can't check because I am banned. All in all, a fat lot of help.
Oh well I'm going to bed, seems to be a bit useless trying to get through to them
Well, there's always AltSpace.
nah tried it
Well then your option at this point is wait for a response back to the e-mail you sent.
Not sure if Tupper is lurking, but here's your daily reminder that we love you
So I just had a streamer just write out the N word in front of my face and laugh
How can I even report this since it got erased? (This happened in the Presentation room btw)
unless you have a screenshot i think it will be hard
except he streamed it and you can grab the video of there
#moderation-reports or an email to moderation@vrchat.com
It's still helpful to let the team know when things like that happen.
Why is vrchat taking so long to load???!
are you stuck in space?
yea i am ;-;
๐
Hunt down
Welcome to Weeb Simulator 2018. Enjoy your stay. : P
anyone stuck in space?
yup
i got in a think
Ladies and Gentleman, howdy and how your day/night? ;3
for the space issues follow the instructions for client issues in #vrchat-support
Anyone having avatar upload issues?
not showing up?
Is there any ETA on rolling back to the previous vive controls? I donโt think I can play with the new layout, itโs really awkward and thereโs a delay when you want to move
there wont be a rollback but they said they look into giving old movement as an option
anyone just getting a blank space background after logging in
nothing happens, i can't get in-game
see the Client issues section in #vrchat-support
@vocal shard detach the pipeline
what is rocknroll on the touch controllers
Apparently devs are working on making a third person camera like what Spazkoga has on their stream.
https://clips.twitch.tv/FancyLuckyEmuLeeroyJenkins
tda?
It's a type of mmd model base
That is because TDA (An illustrator and contributor to the Project Diva series) has these as their policies and deviant art people are telling VRChat players to follow them.
Model data can be used only by the MikuMikuDance software
Do not redistribute model data
Models are not to be for commercial use.
Models are not to be used for videos with scenes of violence, sexual material or slander.
Notice : The distribution of base or naked edits are forbidden. This is due to the possibility that it may violate Crypton's character policy. See author's Readme txt for more information.```
Does that mean MMD models will be removed?

most VRChat users use MMD models ๐ฆ
If TDA themselves asks for it to be removed, then probably?
Not all MMD models uses TDA based stuff so idk.
hmm
TDA suks appearance is the best
I just read one of the comments in the VRChat rant post and all I can say is wow if that's true.
๐ฎ

Basically every of the line besides like the first one seem pretty fine
Anyone else having the issue of the camera moving on its own by rotating, for some reason it only does it for me on vrchat
Do you have any controllers plugged in?
ohh thats why
it means the upload fucked up somewhere, iirc

Basically yeah. It's corrupted somehow.
Currently there is a unintended workaround to use the animation override system to do a bit more than simply change your animations on your avatar. People are changing out the hand gestures to have different "face poses", pull out weapons and such.
There are several guides on "animation overrides" you can look up
are avatar uploads not working atm?
sooooooooooo much kanna @.@
Does anyone have Artsy's VRChat ID? They're not on my friends list anymore for some reason.
we should be able to use seated play in desktop users to give us a crouching option like vr users it would be nice
All I know is their VRChat username
Yes
Seated mode means making your avatar stand up when you're sitting down in real life. Its not crouch mode.
how about just press ctrl to crouch
There is no "Artsy" it seems
they might've changed name (if you can do that)
{"error":{"message":"\"User artsy not found\"","status_code":404}} There's an "ArtsyB" though?
tldr; 'puter says no
Artsy's account went poof. Said so by themselves in their discord.
rippo
Artsy went poof? what happend?
HI pep, good morning
Did something break?
Are servers ded again? My avatars are not updating
Ur SDK
what about it?
Remove pipeline blueprint ID
and reupload
and you cant really update on the current sdk atm
you have to keep creating new ones
kk
Hi
Anyone can send me good links and shops to buy vr? And allll the stuff .. like leg trackers ? Good ones but not that expensive .. cause sometimes expensive things are not the best ones xD
Btw i live in Portugal
well... there isnt really options there 
I see
i also like "good but not expensive" combined
Just like suggestions ..
My best option was ordering my vibe from Amazon
Im thinking of buy it .. not for now.. but yeah
if you dont rneed it now you might want to not directly go all in
Vive
im sure the rift will also come up with a system at some point
Oh i see
its constellation system shouldnt be that bad in price when adding one i would expect as well
Amazon is a good option
Yeah
Ill try to search more about it
I have a friend that send me One shop.. but i Saw some reviews... And it cames like.. hm no ill not buy it
So.. but u guys think its not a good idea to buy it now.. cause they are .. uploading it and stuff
Is that it ?
Oh sรณ Nice
How much u spend?
uploading it ๐ค
600+tax
I mean.. like making it Better
its technology
I bought it new
Oh i see
Ahsh yeah true fact
if you wanna try out a bit (and you have a fitting room for it) the rift should be your best bet (especially for vrchat the controllers are superb)
I have a friend that bought everything.. vr .. leg trackers Bla Bla .. and he spend about 1k
Lol
I was like.. okkkkkeee but for that ill buy another PC xD
Oh i see .. sรณ rift are a good option ?
the vive is expensive yeah, but till oculus comes with a solution the only leg tracker vr headset (except hacks like driver4vr which use the kinect)
tho i think you can use vive leg trackers with a oculus headset 
i heard something like that
Oh Nice o:
what is you main goal with VR?
Head pats
Lol
Not just to VRChat.. i want to play games with that
Like horror and stuff..
I think it would be a different experience
its mostly a money thing
Cause i never tried vr
there are some things better about the oculus and some things about the vive
the oculus scores the price points, for VRChat the superb controllers
it has integrated headset
Yeah the thing os that.. is really expensive .. its like having other pc
Ohh
both have the same rez and FOV
if you have large rooms the vive definitely wins in that cus oculus is some what limited in big play areas
tho with 3/4 sensors they can also get big
since oculus sensors have 110ยฐ FOV insted of close to 180ยฐ from the lighthouses placement is a bit more critical
Hm.. my Room is not that big
vive does neathless 360ยฐ roomscale with 2 lighthouses
oculus doesnt officially
but if oyu use 2 sensor on the ceiling looking at each other it also works
else you will have a "dead zone" behind you
unless adding a thrid sensor
im currently on an unoptimal 2 sensor 360 and its works
tho i need to move the sensors a bit closer since im pushing the edge of range
actually 1,5m by 1,5m CAN work out allready
BUT more for games that dont really have much active movement
So.. we have.. vive.. rift.. and oculus?
a used rift might even be an option
you'll find them pop up in what ever auction stuff you have in your country regularely
Vive has integrated mic as well. Seems to work well enough.
it has yeah
but the rift one's is realllly good
the vive's is more like... "usable"
but i didnt look into too many comparrisons
Vive's microphone "pops" way more than Oculus' mic. However it's perfectly decent for VoIP
yeah its usable but defnitely not as good as the rift's
I cant use the vive mic at all, everyone can hear me breathing it picks up wayy to much
well I did not look into any options because I have a wireless headset
Lol same here
Ill see .. reviews and stuff about
I switch between my wireless headset and vive Mic
leg trackers
I recently bought a rift and love it. Good price, easy to setup and use but you do need to buy a 3rd sensor like someone said before because it stops tracking when you turn around
Thx for the helpp :3 i realllyyyyy aprreeecciate
I heard someone say it good last night as well, if your end goal is full body tracking go vive, if you want just basic VR thats easy to use, Rift
in the end its like this
oculus:
- lower price
- very good controllers
vive
- higher price
- good controllers
- better sensors
- more expandable
oculus weighs less and has integrated headphones
^ also this
what do you mean by more expandable?
u can buy leg trackers
also they said that the vive pro will have stuff u can buy as extras for the normal vive
rift's gonna get their own, very sure of it ๐
but that is the vive pro!
not the vive
Vive, or the SteamVR ecosystem is modular. You can buy different hardware (HMD, controllers) from other companies and they will work with each other
another thing some vr games are headset exclusive for some reason
so some games are oculus only and some are vive only
which i think is the currently best vrchat solution
because the rift controlers are absolutely awesome with all the gesture stuff
Assuming you got the lighthouse sensors to begin with, yes
Yeah, that part bothers me a bit, kind of want to try some games, but since I bought Vive, don't get to play the Oculus exclusives.
but u cant play the robot shooting thingy game on oculus
isnt there revive or what ever that thing is named?
Personally I got major issues with Oculus' parent company, Facebook, and Oculus semi-walled garden practices so it's a major turnoff for me.
all these people with Facebook issues
what?
which 90% then use android phones...
I got major issues with vive pricing policy if anyone asks me ๐
Because that means I don't have bigger issues with google, right? ๐
Samsung and Windows 7, does that mean I don't have problems?
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So... For vrchat.. rift is the best option.. and not that expensive?
doesnt your samsung have android? 
both have advantages and disadvantages
Ah, i get your meaning, sorry, misread that. Thought you meant Google phone.
yeah for vrchat rift is propably what you want to go into unless you REALLY want full body RIGHT NOW
There is no "best" option, it's really what you're concerned about
since.. when?
Right
dunno but I noticed it when I got mine
Thx :3
If price is an issue, Microsofts VR headsets are the cheapest I believe
And if you travel a lot they are perfect for that
there is a 3.5mm thing on the head and u get some easy headphones with it
well...
Yeah the price is an issue but i dont want to buy some shitty thing
is it that 1$ kind you get with phones? 
did not try it
'k
but they seem like that
If all else fails, buy one from best buy / walmart with a 2 week return policy and just try it out
They are actually pretty decent, but I have problem of them staying in my ears. Picked up some iFrogz that I use with my MP3 player to see if they work better.
I think rift in your situation would be the best to go for
i HATE ear plugs
I love em
and yeah i think rift would be what you want
Ohnice
The ones that come with the Vive are earplugs.
the nice thing about the rift is that you and anyone can just drop it on and is ready to go
(there also in an ear plug option tho)
and while the sound is nice
Oki ill see
rift = better controllers and cheaper
vive = more stuff to expand on like leg trackers, better sensors
thats about it
i think rift is also cheaper if you kill your controller
also I kinda prefer that vive is THE steam vr thing, so I know it will work perfectly
Okioki.. thsnk you guys :3
since its basically a xbox360 controller with an ir led ring
Rift is more comfortable out of the box while Vive needs the deluxe headstrap to be arguably as comfortable
Vive has a front camera on the headset aswell which I use religiously
i really thing once rift brings out leg tracks on their own they are back to full competition
oh yeah
the front camera
the vive sits abit too far up imo https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/f02b1701-1.jpg
that one is a point if you want/need it
the vive front camera looks so bad tho
Speaking of front cameras, the Vive is supposed to have one, but I can't seem to get it to work.
the oculus is more comfortable yeah Zer0
I see
The guy in the picture has the strap waaaaay wrong
@shrewd summit for me even discord can use the camera
that also zarni ๐
I can use the vive camera inside discord calls
It's supposed to grab hold the lower back of your head
for some reason
I am probably just missing something in settings somewhere.
I never did anything with the camera
it just works like that
next step
ACTUAL EYE TRACKERS
inside the headset
tracking your eyes
But then you can't look at stuff.
?
really
You know what I mean.
hmm
but vive also has a solution "Planned" 
There are eye-tracking addons for Vive you can plop in and you plug them into the spare USB port in the headset
yeah
i think rift and vive will both always compete
if one goes first
the other will follow
seems like it
thats why im sure there will be leg trackers some when not to long into the future
the constellation tracking should allow it easily
what about mixed reality? samsung odyssey seems like to be the best of em atm
also no sensors but no tracking behind your back
I hate inside out tracking
?
I think it is hella cheap
for vrchat i think you should really aim for the rift or vive
wmr isnt even really supported currently afaik
It's not officially supported, but it works
Didnt windows mixed reality ones need your hands to be in front cause of a camera or something
full body / room things with wmr sounds like hacking solutions
yeah since the sensor is on the head piece u cant track behind your back
i really really wouldnt get anythign like that (yet)
When inside out tracking becomes as good as current sensor solutions, it's going to be a game changer
but doesnt that mean its only stationary?
no not walking in game
since mutiple headset will use the microsoft mixed reality, meaning good support
but walking in your real space
Stationary is wiimote lmao when people hack that
yeah
and transfering that in game
And they have but it sucks for vr
watch the first 2 minutes of the video
he walks 3 feet and grabs a bottle
in the great pug
Oh I just found out I have test in geometry now

i see
Right after history test
i would still say, go for at least the rift
rift is so cheap in some countries that its a no brainer
Simple Geometry
uk its like 250
Official Oculus site has it as $399 US.
us 
also anyone knows if the gokarts and vehicles will be fixed some day soon? I can only see 1 person driving, all others are stuck on spawn
swizzerland 
yeah dont you have that super high tech tax?
780 for vive still sound reasonable in comparrison tho
i heard from swiss friends there is some stupid tax on electronics 
maybe just PC parts ?
if the samsung odyssey would ship to my place I would have bought that
Ok thx really :) ill send news ahah
make sure to have at least 1 usb 3.0 and 2 usb 2.0 ports free
(even if official saisy 3x 3.0 and 1x 2.0)
i dont even know why it lists a forth 
do you have a HDMI output on your graphics card
or dvi out
with adapter?
The Vive linkbox does have a mini display port adaptor, however Vive support still recommends HDMI.
oh yeah
Yeah i have
Also, HDMI to Display Port adaptors do not work, or at least mine didn't. Had to switch my monitor to the adaptor so the Vive could use the HDMI port.
has to be a dual link adapter !
I guess all 1060 and up have a hdmi on it
Well probably ill need someone to see all to really know it Will work on my PC and stuff
The one I have is Belkin.
just gotta reserach the net
searchin the net
HDMI native or DVI with adapter are the best ways tho
and use a DP > HDMI for you desktop monitor insted
(or DP to DVI if you have only that cable)
How do I make VRChat splitscreen for vr without it having to detect a vr device?
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not sure if that is possible
you only really have the desktop window
cus the actuall images are rendered to the outputs differently then to a normal monitor

oof the one eye shader is bad already
@covert chasm @dark harness When someone has a blank name, is it just spaces or no valid characters inside of that person's name? ๐ค
Anyone else knows maybe?
i find it funny that steamvr screenshots save a variant of the HMD view and the desktop view
only time i see blank names are with mods like Naue 
or really only him, public is spoopy, i dont leave the safety circle of friends only or mods 
Lemme ask Ruubick aswell @modern sand
Because I wanna know if I should record it or not
i probably wouldnt ping all of them
its baddo
they get pinged often enough for tiny things
I know haha
Oof
@ everyone is annoying XD
But well, I'll just deal with it for now. I don't think the blank name guy is bad
No invisible avatar or anything. Just normal behaviour
Even got full VR, too many expensive stuffs to risk getting banned on VRchat
He's on The Great Pug #49562
Public that is
not like the expensive stuff only works in vrchat tho 
True, leg trackers are a lil buggy
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@safe glen Just send us your log with a timestamp at moderation@vrchat.com, thanks
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I thought it just was a guy with spaces in his name
let us take a moment to appreciate the fact that the sound bug is fixed
just saw an older youtube video with the sound bug in it, and realized I haven't had that in a couple of days
so nice
You mean the sound only appearing on the right side?
yeah something like that
@brave granite what is the sound bug?
@wide quail Its where the audio would displace itself and cause the audio sources to be stuck or missplaced
Ty
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hi
hello
are you playing vrchat
yes
so are they aware about people crashing people's clients?
No
is there a way to test the microphone in game? For whatever reason people cant hear me, sometimes they can
I clearly have my mic set in the systems
in im not muted myself
Nope, only way of testing is to adjust the bar above the mic toggle till people can hear you
hopefully they fix the crashing stuff



