You can ask on steam fourms or try googling for commissioners
#vrchat-general-2
warm turtle
VRC Traders
grim tide
warm turtle
discord server
quiet prawn
I believe it's a Discord
shrewd star
avatar stealers are back lol
vocal shard
They never left
shrewd star
They left for awhile after the game got updated
vocal shard
Hello, is there a new VRCtrader Discord link?
sick plaza
well they can jsut save it for later
they dont really need ot change into u when u meet them
soft turret
if they're putting in that work to steal an avatar of mine you know what
you can have it
personally i don't quite understand stealing garbage BuT
to each their own
small radish
fortunately, anything I have no worth stealing ๐
desert lotus
I wish I could remember which world I saw that had the avatar Ainz Ooal Gown from Overlord anime.
shrewd star
Ofcourse they left after the game updated, they needed time to update the hack themselves
solar mulch
@crude walrus most avatar worlds that iknow that are down because they updated their world and need to be approved again
crude walrus
Ahhh thought so
solar mulch
just takes a while but they should be back
paper cloak
I take an occasional peek at the parent directory of where the most popular script download is hosted. It's updated constantly.
knotty dew
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 10075 users in VRChat currently
small radish
!offline
inner idol
!nearline
stoic heron
I can't go on for a while now because my finger is broken...
inner idol
Ouch.
warm turtle
If hackers got my joker avatar had VR, the whole world will bring because it can attack and switch personas
All the particles to abuse
Though people already can abuse particles and crash
meager sundial
All people who use Dragon Ball avatars with super saian (idk what it is) abuse particles everyday
copper shard
Online!
inner idol
Probably the only realistic way to make that less grievous is to scale the effect for people with weaker systems.
copper shard
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 10164 users in VRChat currently
inner idol
But that means taking a baseline, and what system would that be
rain isle
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 10267 users in VRChat currently
vocal shard
stone current
celest pendant
I guess they found their queen.
flat lake
Hey could I get the discord link to this server? Trying to invite a friend but on my mobile
vocal shard
/vrchat
orchid hazel
If any of you are interested in me drawing your oc/avatar dm me
I will show you examples of how I draw and the prices
vocal shard
?
minor saddle
A GIRL JUST STARTED CRYING AND SOMEONE WAS SCREAMING AT HER , I MEAN, NOT INGAME, IN HER ROOM
I FKNG HEAR HIM HITTING HE
WTF I NEED TO DO
OH GOD
orchid hazel
but like
vocal shard
You... can't really do anything much if you don't know where they live or who she is...
orchid hazel
why would they record the whole thing
minor saddle
IM FKNG GONNA CRY
orchid hazel
it's prob fake
honest helm
@minor saddle you cant do anything
orchid hazel
because nobody would record the whole thing
charred scroll
well, you could try screaming next to her that he should stop
minor saddle
we where all talking and suddenly someone joined in her room
honest helm
@orchid hazel she may have it on hold and not on push2talk
minor saddle
no u dont
honest helm
@Zerlingg-Chan ~ ๏ผผ(^ฯ^๏ผผ)#1995 does she use vr setup
vocal shard
As I said, if you don't know anything about her IRL, there's not much you can actually do...
charred scroll
welcome to the world of parents who are aholes who dont know anything else then violence
honest helm
@minor saddle ye can only hope for her best
honest helm
@charred scroll wow, i only know those from movies
vocal shard
You still can't do a lot without any personal information about her
grave holly
just found a hacker in the avatar testing rom, gonna clip the stream and post in a bit
minor saddle
;-;
charred scroll
from personal experience, it sometimes gives enough time for the other person to get away
honest helm
@grave holly those happen to appear a lot currently
minor saddle
;;-;;
grave holly
his name is GXD DVMN
he stole avatars, flew, talked about being able to follow anyone and join even private maps
novel plume
the servers are being eating alive i see
vocal shard
@grave holly, report them to #moderation-reports including with your output log. Do say what time day appear.
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
vocal shard
Why does it take so damn long just to get a single Verification Email?
grave holly
i got video
vocal shard
;-;
grave holly
whats an output log?
vocal shard
Did you click on their character to make sure they're using the real name?
someone should make a ugandan knuckles emoji, by that i mean a tombstone emoji
Output log is something that keeps track of what's happening when you're in game.
You asked for it.
grave holly
im looking at the vid now to clip il see if i did click on them, did look them in the room members list too
vocal shard
Yes, but this is better. 
novel plume
does anyone know some fun effects with cubed shaders
vocal shard
@vocal shard, try using a different email host.
Nah I'll just play via Steam Account and try to get it sorted when I have more time
I am positive its not a problem with my email
Because when I made a new Account and tried to get an Email on a different one
It still wouldn't go through
grave holly
hacker report sent now we wait lol
empty sand
How do you reset 'centwr' in steamvr using oculus? Ever since I started with 3 sensor room scale the center marking is no where near ceneter for me
vocal shard
just realized i can just paste this link to my browser vrchat.com/download/sdk and have the sdk file downloading instead of logging in
brave furnace
hey @covert chasm can I PM you a name of an account you should look into? they're making hentai avatars
grave holly
if hes online "GXD DVMN" is in need of a ban too for hacking lol
vocal shard
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
grave holly
i sent a report wit hlog+vid proof
thick escarp
Seriously, no one wants a witch hunt here. Keep calm and report.
grave holly
moon that just gave me an idea
with the hacker i requested a mod an none shown up but there should be a way to report someone like him and its sent to a dev. the dev gets the note and starts watching them in spectator
because when they would see the DEV name they would of course stop lol
thick escarp
An in-game report button is in the works, I'm 99% sure. Early Access game is Early Access.
grave holly
gonna love to see the final release, like AI being added + more guns so for example, this game is golden
charred scroll
more guns? you are aware that we can make anything shoot anything
and ai isnt that far away
vocal shard
devs can toggle their extra nameplate
brave osprey
Could use some support myself, I've been unable to log into VRchat for 2 days now, nothing has changed on my computers end configuration wise, It will not let me connect Via steam as it always has, instead it brings me to a login screen and askes me to select which method I should use, Steam or VrChat - Neither work. Steam tells me its unable to do so at this time, and VRchat just gives me the forbidden message.
Please help.
vocal shard
and toggle their own visability im pretty sure, so them coming over to peep wouldnt be known
wispy imp
do you think making my own map will be a big challange? im going to make a partyhouse for me and my friend :)
friends*
still dragon
@brave osprey devs caught you giving too much smooches out, you were put on time out.
tepid aurora
Why is it so damned hard to find good male characters from animes ie Allen Walker from D.Grayman and Oz Vessalius from Pandora Hearts...
charred scroll
cause the internet likes girls
sudden fulcrum
Has anyone here played slay the spire?
vocal shard
invade the empire?
final quartz
cosmic fable
has eye tracking been fixed yet
molten knoll
Is there a world that lets you watch YouTube Videos with friends?
vocal shard
Eye tracking will be fixed in the next update
Just killed a wherewolf as a hunter first round
wild mulch
Sick servers
shadow prism
@molten knoll many worlds once had a web panel, they are sadly broken atm
open karma
I saw a world with a painting app or something in it.
safe yacht
I cant seem to log on in this moment.
rare cliff
Worlds aren't accessible either.
safe yacht
RIP
vocal shard
Upload servers seems to be broke.
safe yacht
They always seem to be broke though.
safe yacht
Best save your project then
chrome scarab
^
ivory geode
but..ill have to redo all the dynamic bones X(
chrome scarab
why lol^
ivory geode
for some reason when i save it doesn't save the dynamic bones and shit i do
boreal plaza
also saved scene?
chrome scarab
yea
tranquil terrace
Do you adjust them in play mode?
ivory geode
Oh
chrome scarab
you have to save the scene
chrome scarab
;D I can relate though; had that at the start aswell xD
ivory geode
yeah this model was complicated. its the most complicated one for me ive ever done 0-w
chrome scarab
how many (dynamic) bones (scripts) :p
meager sundial
I dont played in vrchat day... Knukles worlds are dying?
modest halo
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 8935 users in VRChat currently
chrome scarab
yeah cant even login
modest halo
๐
chrome scarab
definitely down
modest halo
i can't change rooms
chrome scarab
^ servers are down
north plaza
Has the infinite load loop been fixed though?
vocal shard
I was just banned for a month for no reason, Who can I talk to about this? because one of the mods assassin is not online so i cant talk to him atm
Wait what
spare root
@Ck TheSorrow#1583 email support
tacit plank
Does it not give a reason?
north plaza
I know, but i mean normally. When i tried a few weeks ago both from hdd then ssd, it had a loading loop that bounced me between 2 different loading screens
modest halo
i know it's broken
severe cloud
dont join public instances then
modest halo
i can join friends
wicked dove
vrchat machine rboke
vocal shard
Okay so i was in a avatar testing room and some guy was threating to crash this streamer's game
meager sundial
@vocal shard maybe some hucker took account. Usually they give first warning
leaden kiln
@vocal shard #moderation-reports
vocal shard
I mean i ran into ramsonvr 2 or so weeks ago
i miss the days of eye tracking as well
back in '94
thorny pond
everyones so soulless now
icy horizon
how do you even break eye tracking when the patch was meant for security? why did they need to touch it in the first place
vocal shard
it also says i'm IP banned for 24 hours ;-;
Bad boi
You probably got a spoof ban, just restart the game and log in again.
Im unable to log in as well
We're aware of users having issues connecting to our services. We appreciate your patience while we work on this problem!```same result @vocal shard
yeah
You... probably have done something wrong then if it's a real one. You can email an appeal at moderation@vrchat.com though.
high lava
The annoucements seem more and more unofficial everyday in my opinion ๐คท
vocal shard
well I'm just gonna wait til assassin is on
polar rose
i know servers are having issues right now, is it causing issues uploading avatars for anyone else?
just to double check
undone geyser
@polar rose Yeah im having issues uploading too
cursive edge
Seems so
undone geyser
@polar rose What error are you getting?
polar rose
Error updating content. Unity package upload failed. Failed to create file record.
undone geyser
im getting a similar one
vocal shard
#announcements, anything VRChat servers related might not be available.
paper cloak
@covert chasm should edit the announcement to say "game and upload services" instead of just "services".
get rid of the ambiguity
covert chasm
Any/all VRChat services are degraded at the moment. Ambiguity is intentional.
paper cloak
I just mean everyone's asking if it includes upload services, might clear up the confusion
covert chasm
ah
vocal shard
its the mods plan to makes us confused
i've been hearing that you won't get banned for going over rhr polly limted is that true? @covert chasm
covert chasm
Modifying the SDK is a violation of the terms of service
vocal shard
Ok thank you
covert chasm
It is not open source by the definition you're using
regardless
it is against TOS to modify it
and violating TOS is a bannable offense
upper fox
play by the rules, dont get banned
covert chasm
that's all I've got on the subject
upper fox
it's that simple
wild mulch
20k poly is super low though
covert chasm
i believe in you
paper cloak
I'm sure they've heard that
covert chasm
you can decimate, i believe in you
modest halo
some models seem impossible tbh
covert chasm
plus CATS does it automatically nowadays
modest halo
cats can screw up stuff ๐
paper cloak
The models weren't made with decimation in mind, it's not a guarantee it will ever work, but that's just life
molten pewter
you can decimate the legs pretty hard and use a shader outline to get rid of the transparent parts
wild mulch
mods are saying that its not against tos Tupper
vocal shard
Ya where would you want me to send it
modest halo
๐ค
vocal shard
wild mulch
Dunno the name off the top of my head. But he told a friend "You can modify it as long as you optimize it"
pearl stag
LOl
covert chasm
aha
paper cloak
wtf
brave furnace
Hey Tupper I just sent a moderation report about someone running around in a hentai avatar
wild mulch
I can get the name
paper cloak
I mean the ban wave part probably isn't true...
covert chasm
Boatzy was asking me, specifically, if there was a banwave of people over 20k polys. That isn't true.
spare flower
if that's is true, then over 30% of people are getting banned
covert chasm
HOWEVER, modifying the SDK is against TOS.
brave furnace
Also a heil hitler avatar, that they themselves uploaded
spare flower
hitler avatar is bbannable
upper fox
What is the animation time limit for gesture overrides?
vocal shard
i will let them know
Welp, looks like that person who told me that before misinformed me then.
covert chasm
It isn't out of context. All the information you need is from that image.
lost agate
TOS of the SDK though. As far as i am aware you will only be banned from the use of the SDK?
paper cloak
he clearly says there isn't a ban wave, not that you're free to modify the sdk lol
covert chasm
The answer to that question is: "Modifying the SDK is against the Terms of Service."
stable juniper
Hey guys
polar rose
20k polys is enough for base models
spare flower
pretty sure if you want over 20k poly limit, you need to modify sdk for that
vocal shard
I remeber being told by someone that going bypassing isn't an issue then sends me that photo. 
spare flower
=_=
vocal shard
me to
modest halo
that's literally what was just said
wild mulch
I dont understand why you cant just up the poly limit
charred scroll
Tupper, does having a avatar have 25k polygons in total when the weapon animation is done as modifying the sdk?
vocal shard
Hard to read back when lots of people are typing.
covert chasm
No, @charred scroll, modifying the SDK is what counts as modifying the SDK. ๐คฆ
modest halo
i have a question : why do rooms and props/weapons have no limit but avatars do?
spare flower
i just state the "obbvious" becaues people still wondering
charred scroll
cause its kinda going around the restrictions of the sdk
so i wanted to be on the save side
covert chasm
There's only one world in a world. There's anywhere between 1 and 100+ avatars in a world. @modest halo
rigid crescent
D: was my friends list deleted
covert chasm
If you want to make a world with 20 million tris, go for it.
paper cloak
@wild mulch one or two people in a lobby being above the poly limit may not affect performance, but having everyone bumped up even like 5k would drastically hit performance
spare flower
my friend had the same issues
upper fox
Don't bypass the polygon limit, you'll ruin the experience for other players. Instead, learn how to reduce your polygon count
wild mulch
@paper cloak Optimization
paper cloak
that's why raising the limit isn't gonna happen until the game is better optimized
and even then it's not like that's a guarantee either
wild mulch
The game cant be better optimized if all the worlds are player made
rigid crescent
wut...
vocal shard
Tupper, I think you should put that in one of the chats in the official category. Just to bust the myth.
paper cloak
lol
covert chasm
Anyways, I've said all I need to say on it. The message remains. Don't change or modify the SDK in any way, that is a violation of the Terms of Service that you agreed to. If you violate what you agreed to, then that is a bannable offense.
charred scroll
well, i think the next big thing is gonna be having the sdk count stuff that is inactive too
lost agate
I dont want to sound rude, but i think its a little silly that the polly limmit is 20K. Decimating it to that level requires not just effort, it also makes the model look just generally bad. Would it be possable to add another checkbox for the upload menu to enable this but only let people use it in private, friends(+) worlds? As just removing it alltogether, and i feel like i speak for allot of people here, feels really restictive on the creation one can do.
paper cloak
@wild mulch the underlying code that runs the game needs to be optimized, not the player-made worlds lol
rigid crescent
I see plenty of great looking avatars that are 20k or less...
charred scroll
i just hope flying is never going to be something banable. well, using the buggy unity physic engine that is
modest halo
some avatars are impossible though
wild mulch
Great looking and detailed are different
vocal shard
gotta make use of what you have
modest halo
you can't get everything you want to 20k
low ether
rip upload
rigid crescent
Then use something else?...
modest halo
๐
meager sundial
Or they ded?
lost agate
Thats past the whole point @rigid crescent
lapis meadow
Yo is anyone else having problems connecting to worlds / your avatar resetting randomly?
rigid crescent
I'm not really getting the issue with the limit. It's kinda low, but you're able to make some nice things even with it.
wild mulch
Yeah but not everyone runs a potato
vocal shard
saw some nice anme avatars at 23k yesterday
rigid crescent
No you won't be able to have a hyper-rended MMD with a thousand effects, but it can sitll look nice.
vocal shard
i run a potato
charred scroll
ok. to hit the nail on the head, you dont have to use the decimate tool to decimate. you cna manually decimate stuff and thus still have it looking good. an avatar of mine used to be 80k, got it down to 20k because i removed some transparent and non usefull stuff and decimated the hair a bit. and it still looks good
lost agate
actually its exacly inverted
modest halo
20k is too low and some people think it isn't but it is
rigid crescent
When you've got an MMO you have to keep in mind all the players, because ones with decent computers are the minority.
paper cloak
@wild mulch you aim to run on as many systems as possible
fading tendon
Oh boy guess who I founf
paper cloak
especially on a social game like this
meager sundial
20k is already crash game
wild mulch
Deep down everyone of you knows that 20k is stupid
spare flower
on top of that, VR
wild mulch
period
rigid crescent
lol I don't mind 20k at all
charred scroll
same here
paper cloak
@covert chasm remove ned fiddly flanders link
fading tendon
The guy shows hacked versions of the game.... wtf
brave furnace
lets set the limit to 1,000
vocal shard
100 poly games
brave furnace
10 poly!
wild mulch
Thats called minecraft
lost agate
you will be able to have a hyper rendered MMD with a thousend effects just not look good. Its effects that make people lag, not polly's.
paper cloak
<@&397642795457970181> Ned fiddly flanders posted a link to the scripts video, pls delete D:
vocal shard
Done.
rigid crescent
Kinda feels like the people that have an issue with it are the ones in said minority though.
modest halo
there was even a forum post where tupper said it ๐
paper cloak
ty
trim hamlet
Thanks advert-chan :P
wild mulch
You think that people playing in VR are minority in a game called vrchat?
vocal shard
when you wanna vr headset but gpu prices are insane
paper cloak
they actually are lol
charred scroll
to be honest, we dont need a polygon increase and a performance increase(well, still kinda). we need a limit on the particles!
wild mulch
Poly limit is a joke
spare flower
nope
spring shard
Voyager only had a 20K computer, surely that's enough for an Avatar.... ;-)
lost agate
yeah because that said minority are the ones actually knowing how it works and use this game for creativety too besides running around as knuckles
rigid crescent
Pop into any room and count the number of VR users vs non-VR
spare flower
back when it was 2k people maybe bbbut now? no
placid umbra
Reminder that the canny is a good place to make suggestions like that
rigid crescent
any public room rather
vocal shard
majority is desktop but it's good that we're getting desktop users to buy a vr
charred scroll
^same here
wild mulch
10k people as a knuckles means I should have my character decimated to 20k poly
charred scroll
gonna get one soon
paper cloak
raises hand this game sold me on VR
charred scroll
first gotta upgrade from my 750 ti 1gb vram doe XD
paper cloak
ouch
cursive edge
That's what I got, fam
charred scroll
its not fun lol
vocal shard
750 Ti friend. 
charred scroll
although i kinda made my cpu a beast
wild mulch
750? LOL
paper cloak
I went from a 2500k to an 8700k last month. Never realized how bad my bottleneck was
wild mulch
dark age stuff
placid umbra
I'd really like to see a max limit of materials, meshes, and dynamic bones added to the SDK
wild mulch
get a real card
vocal shard
I got my bank card.
It's a real one.
i feel like i fucked up with a x4 845 with a 1050
spare flower
that will be good idea aev
charred scroll
@wild mulch not everyone got all the money in the world
wild mulch
use it to buy a better gpu then @vocal shard
quiet prawn
I agree Aev
spare flower
so people who doesn't merge their mesh can't get in the game
vocal shard
Already did. 
paper cloak
@wild mulch are you just trolling now?
wild mulch
$600 for a gpu is not much
paper cloak
yeah... you are
vocal shard
not much
rigid crescent
Yes
sharp moth
my gtx 1070 was $380
wild mulch
Trolling? If someone even has a convo it's trolling?
charred scroll
180โฌ for my upgrade. aka getting a 1050 ti 4 gb
spare flower
you joking right
rigid crescent
lol
placid umbra
Limit the stuff that really hurts performance (especially meshes), and there would probably be room to raise the poly limit
spare flower
1070 for 380?
rigid crescent
Them fallicies baby
paper cloak
lol... my block list grows another name this day
sharp moth
gpu prices started skyrocketing when the gtx 4 series released
rigid crescent
Bitcoin caused that mess
wild mulch
Meshes dont even affect performance? lol
spare flower
this guy
trim hamlet
Mesh count does :P
sharp moth
bitcoin is not the cause of the currentgpu price hikes............................................
vocal shard
kan i buy your bitcoin with my bitcoin?
paper cloak
like I said, he's just trolling now
sharp moth
it is alt cryptocurrencies..............
wild mulch
Mesh count does. So combine them
paper cloak
block him
wild mulch
cats does it for u
placid umbra
Bitcoin hasn't driven GPU sales, it's the raise in popularity of alt-coins
sharp moth
^^^^^^^
quiet prawn
indeed
spare flower
hi awrini
quiet prawn
Hi
brave furnace
Yeah you can't mine bitcoin with GPUs
placid umbra
Paired with the fact that flash memory is scarce right now
brave furnace
If you do, that's silly
spare flower
ah crypto
sharp moth
this is why i don't talk about crypto with non crypto people
brave furnace
You're wasting power and time
spare flower
was wondering what alt-coins is
rigid crescent
I'm not used to someone knowing what I mean when I say altcoins so I stick to just calling them bitcoins lol
brave furnace
I bought a 1080ti for MSRP last week
sharp moth
@rigid crescent that's incredibly incorrect though
paper cloak
$200 CAD for my RAM when I upgraded to a ddr4 board ๐ฆ
brave furnace
It's not hard to get them MSRP
spare flower
ship me some cheap GPU lol
rigid crescent
Yeah, it's wrong but I don't feel like explaining it every time lol
charred scroll
just use 16 gb of DDR2 ram xD
quiet prawn
Something something halp stuck in hub. waits patiently in a slight panic
spare flower
it cost 500 euro here
spare flower
which is 620 dollar ish
rigid crescent
If they don't already know what it is they probably don't care /that/ much
spare flower
i have never heard of FX
wild mulch
CATS Blender plugin joins meshes for you. This optimizes the model. @trim hamlet @placid umbra So that argument is stupid
quiet prawn
oh my...
trim hamlet
Eh? Cat's plugin does it because it affects performance
wild mulch
Even without blender ui can join meshes
spare flower
Do you know that there are people think they can just throw model in unity and import it in game
wild mulch
yeah i know
vocal shard
possible
lost agate
allright tell you what. Make VRchat into an actual game then:
give people the ability to upload higher polly versions of their avatars and a low polly version too. then depending on the users client gfx settings it will show the proper avatar. If this is not possable then idk anymore. Its restrictive and thats how it is.
polar bone
...You can @spare flower
vocal shard
if you have a very lucky model
wild mulch
So if you have joined meshes then it doesnt hurt performance.
charred scroll
joined meshes fk with the textures doe
quiet prawn
Is someone being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative?
undone geyser
I just uploaded an avatar from Unity, went into game and it isnt there under my avatar section, any ideas?
charred scroll
,3,
rigid crescent
@quiet prawn yes
trim hamlet
if you have multiple skinned mesh renderers it affects performance, which is why cat's does it
spare flower
or they just learn how to decimate then import
wild mulch
So you cant argue that the reason the poly limit is low is because of someone not joining meshes when it does it for u
polar bone
@undone geyser #avatars-2-general
trim hamlet
๐คฆ
placid umbra
@wild mulch The issue is that a surprising amount of people do not hit the button
spare flower
^
wild mulch
all the models start with joined meshes
quiet prawn
^
placid umbra
They separate by material, but forget to re-join
modest halo
i always join meshes
placid umbra
and the SDK doesn't let them know currently that it's an issue
quiet prawn
Something something 50 meshes 128 materials, 287 dynamic bone transforms.
charred scroll
cause i generally do everything manually
polar bone
It's pretty obvious when you forget to join meshes, as they all show up iduividually in unity
rigid crescent
Plenty of people don't know/don't care about making them, I've seen a lot of comissioners making money off it lol
so I don't doubt plenty of people screw up
polar bone
I'd dynamically bone miku
placid umbra
Right, but even if they see that, a lot of people won't understand that it's an issue
spare flower
you would bbe supprise
quiet prawn
Yeah, those that optimize, are vastly in the minority.
spare flower
have you been in avatars channel?
charred scroll
@vocal shard did do that. i know of the fact that joining meshes fixes performance issues. i always join the skin meshes and stuff. but blender and unity hate me
sooo, only gonna join skin meshes and the meshes that use the same material
placid umbra
If you refuse to get Cats, there's not much to go on
charred scroll
its not that i refuse to. i just forget or am too lazy
vocal shard
It's 10 seconds of time and it solves so many headaches
charred scroll
lol
spare flower
lazy to get CAT bbut not lazy to decimate 
placid umbra
Take 5 minutes to save hours of work
rigid crescent
GEttings cats takes 5 minutes? lol
lost agate
I optimise all my models to the best of my abilities every single time. It makes me sad that others are so lazy that they just think its fine to trow in an half wacky decemated yet unoptimised avatar in the game.
primal herald
then maybe give people to option to upload to the 1 mesh limit aka 64k which does not affect your performance at all. its other problems that does it
lost agate
^
primal herald
and actually allows for decent quality models
lost agate
i agree
placid pumice
any idea on when I'll be able to upload my half wacky decemated yet unoptimized avatars
charred scroll
well, i still got 1 avatar that i decimated terribly and it has around 90 meshes
spare flower
for the love of god
charred scroll
i never use it doe XD
lost agate
you can upload them when you can upload them. Asking wont speed it up
placid pumice
asking isnt to speed it up but to know when I can start doing things again
wispy cape
Most of the problems that people get framerate related are usually related to a large amount of dyamic bones (and their updates.)
lost agate
Server admins arent future tellers buddy
spare flower
they are aware bbut that doesn't mean they can give you a time limit
charred scroll
well. the worst thing i managed to do was a bit ago. i bugged the particle colliders. so now when someone gets hit by the particle they dissappear. i have no idea where they land doe
spare flower
no estimated time is better than give you a estimated time then prolong it
placid pumice
suppose
spare flower
so you don't have bbunch of people waiting at that estimated time to told that it take longer than they though
ivory geode
It'll be done when it gets done, best thing to do is drink tea and just watch something or play something.
Or perhaps go work on more models. its quite a fun hobby i like doing now.
uncut talon
:o You mean like converting said models for VRChat?
modest halo
i suck at models ๐
vocal shard
Dx
uncut talon
Or actually making custom models?
vocal shard
Vr chat down? But...but...
ivory geode
Both.
vocal shard
How do I get the presentation room link?
sand imp
i cant log on lol
vocal shard
Dragon, #announcements
lost agate
probbaly servers restarting, wild guess though
desert lotus
I thought I had done something wrong in Unity. Didn't realize it was the servers.
"Bad Gateway? What the fuck does that mean??"
lol!!
lost agate
bad gateway literally means the servers dont work aka error 50x
desert lotus
I'll have to remember that.
noble herald
The fabric of virtual reality is unraveling.
wild mulch
It unraveled when they made the poly limit 20k
lost agate
i still think setting it to 64K was indeed genius as it solves it for both sides
wild mulch
Its roblox instead of vr
hearty chasm
Any word on the connection issue ?
ivory geode
its just down, nothing else has been said that they are working on it thats about it
atomic tusk
is someone thinking poly count affects fps?
atomic tusk
the polycount is so low that it doesn't hurt fps at all
it's dynamic bones and materials
desert lotus
Woah woah. So a 40k tri model wouldn't kill everyone?
wild mulch
At least we know that it doesnt take a resume to work in the dev team
brave vessel
how can i find out the link to a certain world so that i could paste it in the console?
desert lotus
n64
atomic tusk
more like 20 player because 75% of players have models with 10 material
mental cosmos
Day 402 of Survival Journal: Still searching for civilization
wild mulch
lol
atomic tusk
the draw calls can be like having 100+ players
wild mulch
Most worlds have 20/30 player limits
30 people with 20k poly doesnt even touch performance
atomic tusk
that's why I don't use some of my avatars anymore until I can nuke them
wild mulch
I might as well just upload a potato avatar to appeal to everyone with a computer from 2005
If you have so much trouble running a game that runs on the unity engine
its no ones fault but yours
atomic tusk
I think they want to play it with a intel integrated
wild mulch
Unity engine is one of if not the lowest detailed engine ther eis
tame stone
(โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
floral flaxBOT
โฌโโโฌ ใ( ใ-ใใ) There you go
quiet prawn
Good bot
wild mulch
I cant believe theres seriously people that think polycount is what degrades performance
the worst part is that its the staff
atomic tusk
I think 30k limit is reasonable
rigid crescent
I can't beleive there's seriously people that think VR users are in the majority lol
but
quiet prawn
Actually, it's draw calls
rigid crescent
i just saw one today
wild mulch
You are still on that subject because you know I'm right @rigid crescent
lost agate
hey sword i am running on a 486sl plox dont go above 2 polly's, i cant render more then 1D
rigid crescent
No I just thought it was funny, I don't really care if the limit stays this way forever or goes up.
wild mulch
Yeah man I think ill be safe and lower it to 1 poly for people with no gpu
atomic tusk
some people are whining that it should be 10k
lost agate
people using pen and paper to render those polly;s
quiet prawn
Sword, we are actually mocking you because you are purposely arguing in a circle for nothing more than the sake of argument. Just stop.
rigid crescent
^
molten knoll
Whenever I try getting on VR Chat, it tells me to sign in. When I do, it just takes me back to the sign in screen again.
vocal shard
cant really blame them for being given incorrect info, much that they dont have much knowledge in 3d magic
atomic tusk
server is borked due to knuckles
wild mulch
We're making fun of you guys because you have no education on the subject matter
ivory geode
Server is down right now
wild mulch
but you think you do
ivory geode
they are fixing it.
wild mulch
lol
rigid crescent
all I've been saying is that I don't care lol
It's not a big deal, especially in a free game anyway
vocal shard
oof
quiet prawn
Oof
wild mulch
It is. Because its popular
molten knoll
It's odd though because it never tells me to sign in, because it automatically signs me in. Why is it not doing it automatically?
rigid crescent
Go chill and hang out with some 20kers and have fun
wild mulch
Upgrade your potato
ivory geode
@molten knoll The game is down right now dude.
molten knoll
I know
rigid crescent
My computer isn't even an issue lol I just genuinely do not care
ivory geode
Thats why you cant sign in.
wild mulch
Then shutup @rigid crescent
ivory geode
and thus it reverts you back to the sign in screen.
molten knoll
Just confused why it's prompting a login instead of being in a loading loop like usual
atomic tusk
server down due to knuckles
rigid crescent
lol if anyone needs to I think it's you, you've just been rude this whole time.
wild mulch
I've not been rude. I've challenged your stupid point on the matter and youre a triggered snowflake
rigid crescent
What point?
wild mulch
Exactly
tame stone
"i havent been rude, you're just stupid and a snowflake"
scarlet bridge
you guys dont know what your talkin about
tame stone
kek
rigid crescent
So...you challenged something taht doesn't exist.
and then call me names despite being wrong?
lost agate
Lyra he aid triggered, not stupid, dont lie
rigid crescent
No, about me being "triggered" or having some "point"
I'm just saying that it really isn't a big deal, the limit is alright.
wild mulch
It is
vocal shard
If you two gonna fight, do it in DMs or stop.
uncut talon
Hmm.
wild mulch
I shouldn't have to make my avatar look like I'm from roblox because someone has an outdated GPU
If you are serious about gaming it shouldnt be an issue
distant pelican
Was there a unity update recently? I can't upload avatars to vrchat all of a sudden ๐ฆ
quiet prawn
Oh look, still trying the same ol strawman
ivory geode
Vr chat is down right now
vocal shard
Servers broke. #announcements
edgy glen
servers are down
ivory geode
Uploading avatars and logging in are not avalible right now
distant pelican
Okay, thank you everyone
rigid crescent
Gotta stay pluged in 25/7
quiet prawn
The poly limit is not because of peoples GPU.
lost agate
most games have the ability to render at lower quality models in the distence. Its called LOD. Why doesnt this game have that...
rigid crescent
Nah it's a No true Scotsman deal this time lol
Only REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL gamers care
edgy glen
simmer down sword
rigid crescent
or maybe they're the same thing
quiet prawn
it's simple. It's what the devs chose.
little pond
Omalawdy lawd drop the fekn argument or take it to dms
uncut talon
^
wild mulch
Then theres no reason to not raise it if thats the reason
lost agate
oml that what we just talked about
rigid crescent
Nah, apparently that's not an issue
lost agate
its just no
wild mulch
Polycount doesnt affect performance you dunce cap wearing potato
quiet prawn
You can be as argumentative as you want, but untl they choose to raise it. IT WILL NOT BE RAISED
little pond
This is #vrchat-general-2 not #argumentchat
quiet prawn
end fucking discussion
little pond
^
polar bone
^
wild mulch
You know what General means right?
polar bone
little pond
You know this is not an argument channel right?
safe prism
general trash
ivory geode
Not really.
wild mulch
Yes
uncut talon
... But the rules do say not to argue or take it to DMs.
ivory geode
^
wild mulch
Google the word General right now
vocal shard
Aye, if you guys gonna fight, take it somewhere else.
coral kelp
๐ค
uncut talon
I don't know why it's so hard to follow the rules? .-.
little pond
Right you're one of those people then, good to know, have a nice day
safe prism
Now youโre fighting the mod
vocal shard
Argue/fighting.
vocal shard
Kek.
safe prism
xd
ivory geode
Yeah but your basically just flooding general chat with a heated debate.
wild mulch
And? It's General
quiet prawn
Uh. Yes it is, but ok.
weak pewter
wild mulch
Google General please
weak pewter
rip the picture wont load
rigid crescent
#rekt
safe prism
da, adverto-kun
wild mulch
IF hes a chat mod then he should do a better job of moderating no?
uncut talon
point given though, Nguyen :o
rigid crescent
LOL
wild mulch
He couldve removed my messages
polar bone
ITT: "We need to raise the limit to 200k"
vocal shard
Aye, and I'm warning you people to take it somewhere else.
little pond
RULES (CONTINUED)
- For small disputes between individuals, please take it to a private chat and do not involve others in it.
wild mulch
If its wrong then remove the messages
winged widget
CHANGE OF SUBJECT: I can't wait for the servers to be okay again since I can't upload my model right now. RIP.
weak pewter
same KyGeux
polar bone
@winged widget What avatar is it?
uncut talon
Oh same
vocal shard
How can they, when you keep constantly trying to cause issues. Read the rules and take it to DM's or leave, please. You are ruining other people's time.
winged widget
Umaru! ๐
placid pumice
@winged widget I feel ya
polar bone
Pics?
rigid crescent
umaru is life
vocal shard
I feel ya KyGeux
uncut talon
I've been trying to fix an avatar I edited the textures for and now I figure out the servers are down. rip
polar bone
oh
rigid crescent
Hopefully it's soonish so I can upload mine today
vocal shard
Oh, he got kicked.
edgy glen
same nikki
polar bone
THAT umaru
vocal shard
Praise
safe prism
rip
little pond
Praise
weak pewter
rip
rigid crescent
But why he didnt do anything wrong lol
edgy glen
but we gotta be patient
rigid crescent
RIP
edgy glen
devs are doing the best they can
winged widget
Not sure if I have rights to upload photos on Discord. I tried and I canceled for me quickly haha
rigid crescent
Yeah, it's not really a rush
winged widget
it*
edgy glen
and they are under immense pressure from people bugging them to fix it
quiet prawn
You were too patient Advert...
lost agate
no he actually just left
vocal shard
You can't upload photos in this channel, but you can post link. @winged widget
Welp.
uncut talon
Honestly, I want to post some of my art, but none of it is actually VRchat fanart so I can't do that
coral kelp
+pats Advert 8)
vocal shard
And yeah, I usually am like this.
I wouldn't doubt it if it was to avoid a kick/ban.
safe prism
if you have problems with mod decisions, easy enough to write your complaints on some paper and laugh at it for a good 5 minutes, cut out the middleman~
little pond
People expect too much a small team working on an early access game as big as this
quiet prawn
Advert-chan has been reported for being too nice.
vocal shard
D:< Ay, no report.
rigid crescent
no clue who i tagged lol
uncut talon
Ah, okay. I'd have to use my puush links for that though as I can't upload directly
lost agate
no he's just really mad as he cant speak his mind without being told to stop drama
edgy glen
plus it's free to play
safe prism
adversarial language my dudes~
edgy glen
they don't earn massive amounts of money or anything like they would be
ivory geode
Is he gone finnaly?
coral kelp
Yeah he got pewpew punished.
edgy glen
so give em time
rigid crescent
mods please sticky https://puu.sh/zbLWF/f4e7fae9f8.png
coral kelp
Indeed.
weak pewter
Im not sure about the hole polygon lag thing but I do know when someone joins with dynamic bones on every item the avatar has it takes me to 1 fps always
vocal shard
"Several people are typing"
ivory geode
it depends on how much dynamic bones someone use.
rigid crescent
LOL
coral kelp
Public lobbies are a mess, can't be in them for too long.
polar bone
Same
ivory geode
I'm trying to keep it to at least 6-7 dynamic bones for my models.
rigid crescent
which are the dynamic bones?
ivory geode
If not lower.
coral kelp
Usually friends / friends+ lobbies are fine, even when full/nearly full.
rigid crescent
like the special animations?
ivory geode
Movement bones
weak pewter
Its like moving hair or clothes
ivory geode
such as hair physics
ivory geode
boob physics etc.
winged widget
This is my model I'm trying to upload! https://ibb.co/e18JRw
polar bone
"Jiggle Physics"
winged widget
Thank you ๐
ivory geode
Get the cube shaders
polar bone
I can't stand the look of that model
ivory geode
for unity
quiet prawn
what, you mean you don't just put a script on the hip and call it a day
weak pewter
it really bothers me when I see two anime peoples "making out" in vrchat
winged widget
Yeah I figured I need shaders
polar bone
The huge head doesn't make her look cute, it makes her look like a brat to me
ivory geode
Just go to google and grab Unity cube shaders.
coral kelp
As long they are having fun and they are not harassing others who cares
ivory geode
Should make it look really nice โค
coral kelp
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
ivory geode
@winged widget
edgy glen
anyone know how to do that rainbow shaders thing
winged widget
Okay thanks! ๐
river egret
Has anyone tried uploading an avatar right now? I just noticed the announcement from a few hrs ago, but I'm new to this whole unity thing. Curious if I'm the only one having upload problems or not :/
ivory geode
And if you cant figure it out, just look up on youtube how to add them~
polar bone
@edgy glen #avatars-2-general
vocal shard
@edgy glen Google "Unity rainbow sharder" then download the shader in the last comment in the forum.
edgy glen
ty
vocal shard
Everyone is having issues, jsut wait it out.
uncut talon
https://puu.sh/zbM2F.png This isn't the character I was editing, but this is the one that failed to upload earlier due to the complications of the server being down
coral kelp
kawaiii
river egret
@ivory geode okay thank you, just wanted to make sure lol. i should have read the anouncement earlier
uncut talon
Ikr? I fell in love with her ;u; The big ears!
coral kelp
- w *
vocal shard
I cant log on to vr chat through steam or making an alt. What to do?
Servers broke #announcements ^
uncut talon
I love huge animal ears on a character
coral kelp
I know right, mine has some too.
rigid crescent
Ooh Serval-chan
coral kelp
Had to give them less detail because I had to decimate a lot though ๐ฟ
rigid crescent
She's from a show called Kemono Friends, it's a really small animation project about cute animal girls and mystreries and stuff
it's pretty chill
safe prism
kemono friends
uncut talon
Oooh!
rigid crescent
lots of cute animal girls like her are in it
safe prism
mhmmmm
uncut talon
I'll have to watch that :o
quiet prawn
friendos
vocal shard
That anime that has a real life penguin fall inlove with a character.
modest halo
i want snow sheep from kemono friends as a model
uncut talon
No wonder she has the huge ears though lol
rigid crescent
safe prism
ezo aka kitsune besto~
rigid crescent
I see a lot of the wolf
coral kelp
Ohhh I've seen stuff about this.
rigid crescent
It was a suuuuuuper small project.
vocal shard
I want to say you guys should move to #general-media because of the channel info. But this channel's been used to talk about random stuff as well so eh.
rigid crescent
Like one guy did most of the work from what I've read. Never actually watched it, but a lot of people swear by it
uncut talon
https://puu.sh/zbMbP.png This is the character I was editing earlier; Her ear physics were messed up and so I decided not to use dynamic bones on her
uncut talon
She's supposed to look like my mascot, Rea
vocal shard
Didn't see it, thought it was another update post
rigid crescent
rigid crescent
here's one I'm working on, gotta decimate her into oblivion though
sudden fulcrum
/wrists
rigid crescent
uncut talon
Oooh, Mic, that's a cute character!
vocal shard
It really is
rigid crescent
I literally searched for hours for a good hairstyle lol
uncut talon
Goodness, you put the model together yourself?
vocal shard
When someone asks if the servers are down, please redirect them to #announcements and say that it's down. :v
uncut talon
That's gotta be a ton of work tbh
All I did was rework the textures on mine to look like my mascot
rigid crescent
Well just from parts other people made.
uncut talon
and add what I needed
rigid crescent
It's the first time I've done it so it did take a while.
uncut talon
Ah :o did you use PMD/X editor for it?
rigid crescent
I had to mess with the hair texture a lot because it originally looked like this https://pre00.deviantart.net/5844/th/pre/f/2013/201/5/e/_mmd__mayu_by_saberzakura-d6ebl0t.png
Yeah
rigid crescent
I've never used PMXE before at all til now, so hopefully she doesn't just fall apart like a zombie or something lol
rigid crescent
Yeah, basically half the hair texture was semi-transparent
uncut talon
I know there's some kind of rigging feature in PMD/X editor but I dunno really how to use the program itself so I'm stuck with what I've got
rigid crescent
so I had to remove that then tweak out the rainbow bits over and over
Yeah I just made it in PMXE and I'm gonna do the rest in unity, I just wasn't sure how to put it together at first.
uncut talon
Ah, okay!
amber socket
yo anyone hear me
uncut talon
I don't know how to decimate with Unity other than that there's a plugin or something for it, so I use Blender to decimate models
amber socket
if so
rigid crescent
Oh I meant Blender, I get em mixed up
amber socket
anyone know where i could get ds3 models?
uncut talon
ds3?
vocal shard
Dark souls 3.
amber socket
dark souls 3
uncut talon
Ah
opaque lichen
hi
wild mulch
the plugin for decimation in unity is Lodeditor
vocal shard
You could go to the dark soulds world, there's lots of DS3 avatars there.
sour sandal
*raises hand
wild mulch
My apologies for how I acted. I just really don't see the real reason for the poly limit
amber socket
@rigid crescent i love you thanks
wild mulch
Sorry for anyone I disrespected
vocal shard
All good, I warned you because you started calling people names.
rigid crescent
https://www.deviantart.com/art/Abyss-Watchers-png-mmd-xps-625779193 can I throw out a guess and say you want this one? lol
grave holly
is the game crashing alot for other people latly?
vocal shard
And personally argue with them.
tranquil shoal
anyone getting a bad gateway error when trying to log in?
vocal shard
Servers are down, #announcements
vocal shard
Welp, lmao
heady lynx
