I love crypto currency. I just wish to know more about it.
#vrchat-general-2
zinc sable
lyric dome
Also my setup uses 400w at full power and that only costs me 90c a day
zinc sable
I have a i5-6600 and a gtx 1070. Is that good hardware for bitcoin?
umbral reef
and learn...
lyric dome
And its very inefficient for mining cause its set to full tilt power wise.
marble lintel
@zinc sable don't bother with mining bitcoin
lyric dome
It IDLES at 100w
marble lintel
it will take ages, you're better off buying actual bitcoins
lyric dome
@marble lintel yeah bitcoin is ruined unless you have asics
marble lintel
or try mining something else instead
umbral reef
Also if you want to invest money into stocks or stuff...
Do your research even ebtter
olive pine
If you're gonna mine something, mine an altcoin that's got a lower barrier to entry
lyric dome
Like garlicoin!
umbral reef
Money in companies or other stuff is just as good with earning money (long and short) but a lot more stable imo
marble lintel
Kodacoin has potential tbh
zinc sable
It just confuses me to learn it. There are a lot of mining websites and stuff. I dont know if there is software or to regulate how much I mine. Thats why I cant learn as easily as to import models with mmd and blender and unity
olive pine
lyric dome
Lol actually the scrypt it uses prevents abuse from asics
marble lintel
considering everyone's a goddamn photographer now apparently
lyric dome
Kodacoin? Like kodak?
marble lintel
i decided to get a few stocks from kodak just to see yesterday that it plummeted lmao
yeah Kodak
vocal shard
@zinc sable Theres a program called afkcat. Works similar to mining bitcoins. If u want have a look at it. Leaving a ref link: https://afk.cat/signup?ref=FKUZLfSlP7TY
umbral reef
@marble lintel Well it jumped up really high not to long ago after the announced the coin stuff
so its not to odd it would be jumping up and down
flint gust
guess i could always pop in my 2nd gpu and mine garlic along with eth.
zinc sable
Ty. Guess its not as easy as anything i have done before. But if I want to turn into a successful entrepreneur I MUST know all about cryptocurrency
marble lintel
ill wait till the end of feb, if it ain't doing any chances ill just sell em
you're not a successful entrepreneur if you don't post on your social medias every day quotes from other people while drinking some BS
flint gust
yeah, also if you do gpu mining, bewarned some algs will reeeeealy slow down the gpu performance, so its best to not use the pc or have a second gpu on hand
marble lintel
it's never the successful people quoting someone else lol
shy nest
nani, this convo is still going from hours ago wot
zinc sable
Lmao. I just want to gain monies, travel and help people.
zinc sable
I want to have the power to change the world. Like my dad did. And how Elon Musk does. Maybe not as hardcore as elon because it sounds impossible to reach him.
flint gust
i should plant garlic in my garden too
elder harbor
Garlic is nice
zinc sable
What about garlic bread
vocal shard
@brave dragon is the anyone teleporting to private worlds still an issue?
^ winner
Garlic bread is bae
dusky vault
I've been interested in crypro currencies but I'm apprehensive to start mining as I only have this one PC and so little income so I'd be scared to stumble upon some kind of scam or malware or cause harm to my PC parts
vocal shard
Garlic Bread Pizza
dusky vault
if I damaged my gpu or cpu or whatever, there goes my uni chances
I'm saving for a clevo laptop to use for uni work so I suppose then I could be a bit more off the edge with my desktop
zinc sable
@dusky vault Me too. My Mettaton (name for my pc) is my baby.
dusky vault
I've got an i5 4590 and a 970
I can't remember how old it is now, maybe 3 years soon
If I could like, throttle the mining, I could give it a shot at one of the cheaper currencies in hope that it gives a tiny profit
eh, not bad, but not loads
Is that constant mining?
oh so even less if I switched it off to do uni work or play games
I'm still living with parents (lucky in that regard) so IDK bills
but if they saw the spike they'd start asking rent maybe
Instead of putting money into laptop I should maybe get a new keyboard. I'm used to a mechanical one which died so am just using an el cheapo MS one. Not used to having to fully press the keys still
Aussie electricity prices might be similar
75 usd is like a new steam game a month to give it some context tho
vocal shard
Electricity is included in the place I rent from
safe yacht
yeah I pay a little less than 35 USD in power and I live in Sweden
vocal shard
I'm in norway
safe yacht
Depends from month to month
safe yacht
theyre raising my broadband price though...
dusky vault
would internet speed affect mining actually?
safe yacht
Really wish I had an alternative to the ISP I have, but I dont.
dusky vault
Asking because Australian
safe yacht
Oh I'm not talkign about coin mining, just general bills
dusky vault
best speed I've ever had here is like 12 to 14mbps
safe yacht
I'm on 300.
dusky vault
Lived in houses where it was 1 to 2 tho, and 0 option to have any improvements made
polar bone
It must be my computer or the router but I only get like 1 or 2
dusky vault
ouch
vocal shard
5mb dl
0.5 upl
Help ;-;
safe yacht
and soon I will be paying 62 fucking bucks for my internet
polar bone
MB/s is megabytes not megabits right?
candid marsh
My main concern here
dusky vault
I'm hoping to move some place with Coax Cable internet so I can get 30/5 (mbps)
candid marsh
is how hard does nicehash or afkcat push your hardware
Like I feel like this thing isn't gonna pay itself off if it burns out my GPU
dusky vault
If you can scale it back so it's not like a full load constantly running
should be okay
If you're not reaching super high temps it might not burn it out
maybe you'd wear the fan motors a bit but those can be replaced
lean mortar
i will need to buy a new gpu at some point
candid marsh
Man
lean mortar
but for now even if my gpu is a bit old it should work
candid marsh
I wonder what I'd have to buy
to have a zombie mining rig running in this unit
And have it be monetarily viable
jovial jolt
I want to share one photo of a hacker in VR chat
dusky vault
Do you need a beefy CPU?
if you had the dispoable income, could invest in like, a cheaper smol PC and put most of the budget into the GPU and PSU
gotta get a stronk 12v rail for that mining power
That's what I'd do at least so I could have something running without interfering with my own comp needs
Can't have BTC get in the way of VRChat
Core 2 duo cpu it is then
quiet willow
guys, i think u are too late for mining now
dusky vault
I'll mine my 1millionth of a bit coin, you'll see
lyric dome
Basically you can have a garbage pc as long as ypu can stuff a 1080 in it youre goood
dusky vault
It'll pay off half the transaction fee of using the btc service
lyric dome
Im being cuddled to death by 3 smol cats
dusky vault
Are they really nice and really cute cats?
ocean needle
@velvet quarry so when i do the mod report google doc someone will see it eventually right
lyric dome
@dusky vault extremely
dusky vault
That's good
lyric dome
Indeed lol
ivory hollow
I’ve been getting DCed a lot more recently from VRchat
Randomly just get kicked out of rooms and back to the hub multiple times a day, used to not happen at all
dusky vault
Could be hackers others are talking about
sleek bone
Can you still play in the old hub world?
woven vale
Yeah
sleek bone
Just search?
woven vale
Just search Old Hub
versed mountain
they are not hackers they are simply script kiddies(hacker wannabe's) i feel like im talking to brick wall these days so many people in the world completely ignorant of the proper terms and use what others call them because they are told thats what they are
sleek bone
Thx
woven vale
Np mate
vocal shard
Just takes too much work to type script kiddie
dusky vault
Just callin' them what everyone else is
vocal shard
Also we can use words like haxorzman
olive pine
1337 h4x0rz
dusky vault
xXx_H4x0r_Boi_9000_xXx
olive pine
best way to avoid hackers is just play after 9pm as they've all been made to come off the computer and get ready for bed
eternal rivet
I see talk on Bitcoin mining. Not worth it with consumer GPUs anymore. You need an ASIC.
jade oasis
where u can walk through the whole map
olive pine
ivory hollow
Are you talking about haunted prison or hide and seek?
jade oasis
nonoono
olive pine
suburban house
ivory hollow
Now I’m thinking about Halloween horror nights
jade oasis
its a puzzle map but scary
jade oasis
theres like rules in the starting area
its not a walking map where u just sit around and talk
u have to solve puzzles
like its quite big
anyone know any good horror maps ?
ivory hollow
Haunted prison is mediocre, better in VR
olive pine
Uganda, if you're an anime girl avatar
ivory hollow
If you play the rules correctly hide and seek can put you on the edge a bit
jade oasis
its like haunted prison but darker
ivory hollow
That’s all I know 
olive pine
this sounds 2 sp🅱oopy
ivory hollow
I’m sure once the new scripting system is implemented they’ll have some real scary stuff
ripe comet
@versed mountain they are hacking, therefore they are hackers. it's still hacking if they didn't find the exploits or make the tools used to hack.
vocal shard
I can't join any server :c
daring echo
i n33d help
ripe comet
it's not like we should be giving credit to people who have put effort into hacking vrchat, they are still ruining the experience for others just as much as the people who just followed youtube tutorials
olive pine
Ay
languid flicker
Ay
vocal shard
Dammit, can't talk to people and they don't got discord--
hazy maple
But don't you hack MMD to get the girls?
ripe comet
wut
hazy maple
To take the models from another game and import into VRchat
ripe comet
nah MMD models aren't included in MMD
it's just software to make animation video thingies
steady nymph
Lul who want to hack a mmd model?
ripe comet
people upload models they've made on deviantart etc, and then they get used for VRchat. no hacking needed
versed mountain
(my late reply )@ripe comet that is actually false a script kiddy is those who use the "tools" scripts made by other people that doesnt make them a hacker by a long shot,a real hacker decodes things with their own custom made code to fix things in software/stress test the security of said software or security wall strength of certain sites or games/ or break into the code to use the info for bad deeds there is other defintions aswell
vocal shard
Why is this game so fucking broken?
hazy maple
I don't think everyone is speaking the truth
vocal shard
Like i cant leave the hub
steady nymph
@vocal shard it's still early access
ripe comet
fair enough Lord, I had only ever heard the term in watch dogs 2 and thought that the cast was just being really insecure and thin skinned when they got so offended by people calling them script kiddies XD guess it's the actual term though
vocal shard
i know but it was working fine before
steady nymph
The sudden increase of ppl playing this might be the problem
Well it's good that It get knownw
But the servers aren't ready yet
vocal shard
mhm
steady nymph
And now there's another problem which is the "hacking"
vocal shard
i know
Yet it is good that the hacking started this early because it did highligh some security flaws in how much the server side trusts clients. Would be far worse if such exploits wore discovered in 1/2 years.
hazy maple
It would be nice if you could kill characters in game
ripe comet
Lol
versed mountain
Sword art online scenario worlds lolz thatd be fun
ivory hollow
How robust is the new scripting system? They already have a SAO boss fight in game
vocal shard
From what ive seen visual scripting is not implemented yet @ivory hollow
steady nymph
I still remember Japan made a real VR sao
ivory hollow
Right, I just saw it in the patch notes that it was coming
steady nymph
And they ask for volunteers
versed mountain
also, its all good @ripe comet i just get a little peeved when people misname script kiddies as hackers, if i came across as rude that was not my intention and i apologize
vocal shard
Should I be scared to come onto VRchat?
versed mountain
@vocal shard not really tho id recomend staying in friends only or invite only lobbies
and no matter wat dont go near the main hotspot worlds
they target those the most
sullen pumice
random vortex
They can join locked rooms.
ripe comet
@versed mountain no worries
rocky rivet
I encountered a guy called "thief" he went around stealing peoples avatars, he wasn't on the list either.
versed mountain
they may be able to join locked lobbies but its less likely i personally havent had any issues ingame with friends only or invite only lobbies
sadly alot of the people on my friendlist ingame for some reason be in public lobbies and ive asked a few of my friends and they said they dont care
but yeah for those like me itd be nice to ba able to catagorize our friendlist and have a like most played with catagory or something/alphebetical sorting system and maybe numbers to show how many people are in each section in the social tab, i right now have "most likely" over 400 people on my friendslist and about 200 of those were possibly in just the first week i played vrchat i believe, i find it hard to find people who are on my social tab online when alot of the time there is anywhere from 20 to 75 people on my friendlist online at same time ( but of course id willing to wait until after these jerks messing with the enjoyment of this games community are dealt with as i know u guys have small team and are doing the best u can with all the work u guys are doing)
vocal shard
Y u friending everyone like Facebook
versed mountain
its a social game
hazy maple
Name me one thing that is better in Vrchat than in recroom
random vortex
Custom avatars.
lyric nebula
custom everything.
random vortex
^
cerulean ice
Dokidoki
hazy maple
But there arent any custom things you can add to your character
vocal shard
Wut
hazy maple
Every time you want a new hat you have to make a new character
versed mountain
i meet people we chat we chill if they be cool i ask if we can add eachother 99% of the time its a yes tho on occasion if i see someone who has cool avatar that they uploaded or regularly using same avatar or if they be interested same things i like(anime) then i also see if i can add them again 99% of every person i asked if i could add them say yes
lyric nebula
I for one make my avatars so that I won't want a new hat 😛
maybe I will make an avatar that IS the hat
and put myself on everyone else
in fact that's an alright idea
versed mountain
i have no life or friends outside the virtual world, i never have ever, im not capable of having friends outside of the virtual world
hazy maple
But I feel like going to VRchat is a bit like going to buy drugs from deepweb.
tall monolith
Please god save me
split steppe
yea vrchat is really not suitable for children
hazy maple
It's shady as hell, and rec room is sort of like buying alcohol from the store from trusted sources
vocal shard
Nothing more nothing less
split steppe
or anime in general is not
lyric nebula
we can't help you to not feel that way @hazy maple 😛 but personally I find recroom unpalatable
vocal shard
We have memes
hazy maple
But the fact that everything is stolen was a big let down when i realized it
vocal shard
I love the attention from shooting a fire work and everyone comes up and goes wow
versed mountain
100% VRchat is definetly not for kids or safe for work at all never will be
hazy maple
But that is alienating 90% of the users no?
carmine stream
It’s the internet in VR form what did you expect
lyric nebula
@hazy maple I make all of my VRchat stuff from scratch and I'm not the only one
tall monolith
u mean mimis
hazy maple
How?
versed mountain
majority of users are of age in vrchat even if they dont sound it
tall monolith
or a meymey
lyric nebula
If there's anything in my worlds I didn't make I have a poster up with credits (like music in my world)
split steppe
@versed mountain what does that mean? they dont sound adult?
hazy maple
@lyric nebula do you have a group of online friends who you hang out with in your world?
tall monolith
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 8416 users in VRChat currently
tall monolith
nb
lyric nebula
@hazy maple Not really, I find new friends around in VRchat and I bring them. I didn't have anyone with me when I started out
hazy maple
ok
lyric nebula
since then one of my irl creative friends have joined, making her own avatars and worlds too
carmine stream
@split steppe yeah, like I will make my voice sound different depending on what I’m doing. Usually it’s my normal voice but I have fun with it
versed mountain
alot of people in VRchat don't sound like they are mature ingame which results in the highly common stereotype that they are kids
lyric nebula
besides, my world is public, and the goal is to make worlds for everyone
hazy maple
Sort of like recroom
split steppe
exactly like recroom
versed mountain
for example i verbally sound roughly 10 years younger than my actual age
vocal shard
But can your rec room give you customizable avatars
split steppe
yeah but all I keep hearing is young voices
versed mountain
ive come across people who have even stated i dont sound my age at all
hazy maple
But one thing I don't get.. Why isn't there a world where everyone would hang out in instead of being alone in their own corner. It's like IRL in VR
vocal shard
With jiggle bob
lyric nebula
you can't be whatever you want in recroom, right? I find a certain peace in being able to become a shark whenever I want 😛
lean mortar
oh i found a hacker i think
hazy maple
But how would anyone find my world if i dont advertise it?
lyric nebula
if your world goes public it will show up in the new worlds tab
vocal shard
New world show in the bottom
versed mountain
i sometimes like being alone and listening too mmd music nothing wrong with that virtual reality is a way to escape the trashy thing that is called IRL
lyric nebula
and most players are so hungry for content they will check it out
vocal shard
Not that far
hazy maple
ok
lyric nebula
then eventually it will drown, but there will be that small amount of players that liked your world so much they come back to it
versed mountain
i personally live in the virtual worlds whether on VRchat or any other game
i cant stand IRL at all
hazy maple
@vocal shard are you the owner of pug?
vocal shard
Nope
lyric nebula
when I first launched mine it had 74 concurrent users which for me was super cool, now it's off the new worlds page but I still see some players active there now and then. people who found it and keep searching for it later
when I push the update, maybe I will find some more!
hazy maple
I think I will make a world based on portal 2 map
just need to find a way to rip it
I will download the game today and give it a try, you can find me there
versed mountain
i wouldve published my world but i at the time didnt know bout removing the bp id and wasnt able to upload to my account and forgot to save the project before i exited at that time
then again mine wouldve been invite only lolz for friends only
steady nymph
I just join world to world using a 2D Kanna sheep and baaa-ing
Seeing ppl reaction makes me happy
carmine stream
I dig it
lyric nebula
indeed, what's cool about VRchat is that you get a new surprise every time you log on
sometimes good sometimes bad 😛
carmine stream
Sometimes you just don’t know what to think
versed mountain
reason why i attempted to make a world before was because the main hub is prob the worst place to have as your spawn hub the lag in there is ridiculous cool map just really lagy on load and when loading into game that lag can hurt ur final connnection to the servers
lyric nebula
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTul_8kW4AAcz5f.jpg:large related screenshot of people being sharks and octopuses in my world 😄
carmine stream
Like super saiyan bee movie ken
lyric nebula
I thought good things about super saiyan bee movie ken
dawn gate
How’s it going peps
old socket
To HTC Vive users.
Can you confirm this?
When you move your controller forward, your avatars hand gets aligned with the controller location?
Do shoulder bones move?
sour quartz
What's "Voice Prioritization"?
velvet quarry
@sour quartz Causes nearby players to be louder when they talk, distant players get lower.
Prioritizes anyone closest to you basically.
sour quartz
Ah, alright thanks!
lyric nebula
also prioritizes friends right?
velvet quarry
Not that I'm aware of atleast.
lyric nebula
huh where did I read that
low ether
apparently there was hacker in shukaijou earlier
sour quartz
Is it preferred to be unchecked?
proper spoke
When you use VR for the first time and it makes you sick as hell.. sob
proper spoke
I hope so ;;
velvet quarry
Might take some time to get used to
lyric nebula
(but don't push yourself too hard! remember, you can always close your eyes in there!)
proper spoke
Couldn’t play more than 10 minutes but that was awesome
lyric nebula
colleague of mine used to get sick after a couple of minutes now he's completely fine
proper spoke
It’s mostly when I walk around
lyric nebula
tried both walk settings?
velvet quarry
You could switch back to "Third Person" if that helps
lyric nebula
third person is more comfortable, lets your check yo self too
pine portal
Are the devs planning on raising the poly count at some point
velvet quarry
Not any time soon I believe.
lyric nebula
(I like to make sure my character isn't bugged out)
proper spoke
Oh same !
carmine stream
Yeah that’s how I made sure my character was bugged out... oops.
But I figured out what was wrong and made it work so that’s something
proper spoke
Also the way you stand.. I play seated so I didn’t realise my hands where doing the mr Burns stand pose
lyric nebula
I do that pose even when I stand 😛
proper spoke
Oh like a small rodent...
lyric nebula
I find it difficult to relax haha
versed mountain
i do use the site but that takes xtra ram to have the browser open and launch the game right now my ram is throttling my performance cause i only got 8GB of ram and when playing game along its at bout 98% usage or higher lolz
lyric nebula
but I'm working on it
proper spoke
XD oh
olive citrus
Are friend requests bugged right now again?
tepid grail
maijin 21 huh
lyric nebula
I see a post processing stack
I tried to get the stack to work in VRchat yesterday actually, no go
seems unity didn't get single pass stereo support for it until later
(or is vrchat multi pass? who knows, not me)
anyway gonna take some time for worlds to start looking like that ^^
shy nest
the fuck, a hacker teleported me to spawn so i asked him why i was teleported, he apologised, went back to where he teleported me from and brought me back
nani
surprised i wasnt crashed for noticing who it was that did it
rough pulsar
@lyric nebula Odd that you couldn't get it to work. Basic setup is pretty simple.
shy nest
recorded it anyway so 😉
lyric nebula
@rough pulsar mind giving me the rundown?
vast lintel
has to be 2min+ to be valid i think ? xD
nimble frigate
Hey a dude walked up to me and stole my name and avatar and an admin banned him and said it was a 24 hour ban, Are they not still perma bans?
shy nest
ive been recording for the last 2+ hours
vast lintel
ahh ^^
lyric nebula
not post process, not terrain and fog, not special shaders
my entire week has been unity saying things look one way and VRchat throwing it in my face
with no documentation
long story short: GRRRRR
and also the local testing of worlds doesn't work
plain current
Is it just me or does anybody notice the later you stay up, the cooler/weirder vrchat gets?
lyric nebula
I might just make small assets until they fix some of this shit..
maybe it's just the time difference 8patar 😄 other weird parts of the world log in
shy nest
i had some really fucking creepy dude hanging around me
vocal shard
Lol nani
shy nest
i generally dislike people talking about lolis because i hate the word in general and this guy wouldnt shut up about it
just decided to leave
plain current
Let me.tell you the tale of the loli, the literal bag of shit, a toaster, and a anime tiddies
It's a good one
rough pulsar
@lyric nebula
Import PostProcessing asset.
In assets right click>create>postProcessing profile
Add Post Proccessing Behaviour component to scene camera
In VRC World component, set reference camera to the same camera you added the postprocessing behaviour to.
That should work.
lyric nebula
it doesn't 😦
or wait
behavior...
is that a different component than post process layer?
the documentation was whining about layers
and it not being set to default
jolly nimbus
the tech demo in the video was made to show off unity 2018.1 with it's scriptable render pipeline
versed mountain
i edit/make more than a few loli avatars they are very adorable if i had a vrkit already id pat every single one on the head i came across
lyric nebula
@rough pulsar which version of the stack did you manage to get it to work with?
versed mountain
i still use the version i got originaly as newer ones break my projects
rough pulsar
@lyric nebula 1.0.4
lyric nebula
same as I used 😦
lean mortar
im actually pretty happy rn with what i did
lilac swan
@uncut plaza Are you using the latest SDK?
lyric nebula
@rough pulsar shit you're right, it does look different
versed mountain
VRCSDK-2017.10.26.17.36-Unity5.6.3p1 is the sdk version i still use as its only one that hasnt broke my projects i tried newer ones but they broke em so i deleted the sdk from the projects and re-imported this version which works for me just fine
lyric nebula
maybe I grabbed the wrong version after all
lyric nebula
the one I tested with looked completely different
uncut plaza
It*
lyric nebula
it had icons and UI and stuff
versed mountain
yeah some of them for some reason have different names too i dont know why
lilac swan
I'm guessing you're not. A new SDK was released 22h ago.
uncut plaza
Oh
lyric nebula
huh really
uncut plaza
Thx ❤
random vortex
Hackers attempting MAC bans with the admin powers now? Can anyone confirm?
timid light
Hello
plain current
So I'm using a Mashu avatar a friend is letting me use, just chilling in the pug, boby flay comes in and is taking us to flavor town. Suddenly, a leprechaun comes in and keeps blue balling us from going to flavor town so eventually boby flay just says fuck it, explains the situation and leaves. Then while I was chatting normally, a sacman comes over and asks one of us to shit on his face. After having a talk with him and some other people, apparantly the sacman is literally full of shit and he eats it (yeah weird I know). Then out of the blue some yandere chick starts making out and some snu snu ensues with another person, I got dragged into it. After bottles were shoved up places that should never be shoved, they ran off somewhere. While we explored and talked, we came across the duo with two more added on. One of them shot fire at us, another stabbed me in the tits. Cory came in, said what the fuck and left. The four sexy time folks left by then and Morgan Freeman, after molesting me, asked me if I knew what in the hell did he just witness. I explained it and sacman came back. I then nearly passed out at the keyboard, at which I decided it was time for me to go sleep.
That's the story
lilac swan
False indeed. Hackers can spoof bans with custom messages. Switching worlds and/or restarting game client gets rid of the "ban" they hit you with. @random vortex
random vortex
Sweet, thanks. Just needed a confirmation on this.
vocal shard
Can we just get the access to these stuff blocked from client level? shouldnt be hard to fix :/
plain current
Was that story I said the average day in vrchat?
lilac swan
Dev team has confirmed with me that currently no one has been banned for real due to hackers.
timid light
Cool
lilac swan
And they cannot cause any permament damage to your avatars or account status
Only temporary annoyances
vocal shard
One question, if eye bones are out of face, clipping half way out, wont it destroy eye tracking?
so i bought an oculus rift last night, what exactly can you do on the rift that i can't do on the vive? (not sure if i'm using the right thread to ask this)
@lilac swan have they leaked any time when we will get some basic client or server side hack prevention?
lilac swan
I have no time frame, but anti-hack measures are actively being worked on.
vocal shard
do they also include server side? or only clients?
sharp dew
👌
lilac swan
They want, probably more than anyone else, get it done sooner than later.
I cannot answer technical questions like that. I'm but a mere discord mod. :(
vocal shard
Oke, thanks
lean mortar
btw i think i found something
timid light
Found what
lilac swan
inb4 the way
timid light
Ok
lilac swan
Heard someone else say that too
lean mortar
i saw everyone teleporing but i was still seating
ripe comet
I don't think so, I was in the pug or whatever it's called and we were all sitting at tables and kept getting teleported to the same place
Maybe it depends on the map?
lilac swan
Please send a report along with your output log when that happens.
nimble frigate
so just hit repot abuse or?
lilac swan
lilac swan
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
timid light
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 9457 users in VRChat currently
timid light
Wish i had vr need to get it some day just need to upgread my pc parts
tired sphinx
Ran into a hacker, sounded 13, threw a big temper tantrum when everyone called him out and then said we were all getting banned gg
timid light
Lol
vocal shard
do you have one? @celest heart
carmine stream
@vocal shard atleast with my experience the oculus touch controllers are much more “natural” to use. After using both I really enjoy the sensors on each button and the control it gives me of my hands.
regal sedge
@vocal shard, from a bit ago, I believe the Oculus touch controllers have dinner tracking, so you hold up two fingers in real life, your avatar holds up two fingers. With the vive, you touch a certain area of the trackpad
I have a vive, so I'm not certain
vocal shard
am i able to move my entire body in the game, or is that only a thing for vive users?
regal sedge
And that's specifically how it's different in VRChat
carmine stream
Yes you can
vocal shard
because i legit bought it last night and amazon pulled the money out like a vacuum so
tired sphinx
also curious if full body tracking is just exclusive to vive
vocal shard
this is my fate now
lean mortar
dam rip
carmine stream
@vocal shard you won’t regret jt
regal sedge
You can, but vive room scale tracking is better, I think
vocal shard
i really wanted the oculus rift, not because it was cheaper but the controllers look more comfy
lean mortar
yaa they look good
tired sphinx
any special accessories needed for that sort of thing? I know vive has those little sensors you put on your feet
vocal shard
and i dont have like a whole room to dedicate my soul into vr
carmine stream
The oculus room scale is only a little smaller, not less accurate or anything. Unless you try to do too big of an area which hasn’t been a problem for me
regal sedge
Yeah, I really wish the vive had controllers like the Oculus. Hopefully the Pimax controllers are decent
timid light
Indeed
lean mortar
i should of went with faster shipping
rough pulsar
@regal sedge seen valve's knuckles controllers? Whenever they come out…
regal sedge
Not sure for a minimum, but I know there's a maximum
lean mortar
its gonna take a while
lilac swan
🤤
carmine stream
I use what is roughly a 3x4ft square at home and 8x8 at a friends house
lean mortar
maybe end of this year im guessing
vocal shard
i did 1 day shipping lol
lilac swan
The only knuckles I want to hear about
vocal shard
astro what vr do you have?
carmine stream
Oculus
regal sedge
@rough pulsar I know of them, but as you mentioned no word of release date. No showing at CES either
vocal shard
you're able to move your legs in the game as well?
tired sphinx
I wonder how hard the vive will drop when the pro is released
rough pulsar
@regal sedge Valve rarely bother with stuff like CES unless they've got something SERIOUSLY cool.
vocal shard
idk knowing them they probably won't drop the price lol
rough pulsar
@carmine stream The vive does have vive trackers at $99 each that give leg tracking in vrchat.
floral aspen
Wouldn't be surprised if they didn't drop the price
tired sphinx
they ain't getting my money if that's the case
regal sedge
I guess the knuckles aren't HTC, so that makes sense
rough pulsar
I would know, I have them. (the trackers)
carmine stream
Nice
timid light
Well im going to go see ya till i get on my pc
regal sedge
And I really hope the Vive trackers come down in price soon
carmine stream
@rough pulsar didn’t know they’d work like that, that’s pretty cool.
vocal shard
Explosion through wall
rough pulsar
@carmine stream I bought 3 vive trackers and for a week strapped them to my feet and belt with rubber bands the postman dropped.
Then I made my own better straps that are super-comfy.
vocal shard
yeah i bought it last night.. so we'll see i guess lmao @celest heart
i'm sure it'll be a great experience
rough pulsar
@vocal shard Have you tried VR at all yet?
shy nest
3 trackers?
where is the third one put :^)
vocal shard
Nope LOL don't judge me with my life decisions pls
rough pulsar
@shy nest hip area.
vocal shard
I was gonna go to best buy but I'm too fucking lazy
shy nest
😉
carmine stream
That is cool. However I currently have too small of a room to take advantage of that. Once I have my own house hopefully there will be more options.
rough pulsar
@vocal shard Holy shit dude, you're in for a wild ride.
VR is one of those things you literally can't describe to people. You have to do it yourself.
vocal shard
Whats the cache command
rough pulsar
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat
vocal shard
Oh gosh, I'm scared but excited too LOL @rough pulsar
I'm assuming you have the Vive?
Thankkks
shy nest
vive has trackers, nothing else does atm
vocal shard
Kinect tracking is pretty solid
Oculus will def. release body trackers eventually
Vive just beat them to market & they are working on Santa Cruz
rough pulsar
@vocal shard A vague fear response to the first time in VR is normal, since it's totally new. Even I was a bit worried what I was getting myself into when I first went for a demo.
shy nest
im expecting to break one controller in the first week
carmine stream
Yeah. You also have to take it a little slow at first if your prone to motion sickness (don’t give up though) eventually your brain will get the idea of all the moving without moving
rough pulsar
@vocal shard But the second you get that thing on your face, there's nothing like it.
It's the difference between hearing someone talk about a tennis match they saw on TV last night, and going down to a tennis court yourself and playing a game.
vocal shard
Knowing me I'll get motion sickness, but I'm gonna fight that shit and play it.
olive citrus
The only time I have fear in VR is when I'm alone or booting up something new
vocal shard
I'm definitely excited !!!!
olive citrus
Mainly because I really don't want to get jumpscared in VR
shy nest
if i do, i think its ok
carmine stream
You’ll be fine just don’t give up. I got it bad, like real bad for a bit. Then One day it kinda clicked in my brain and stopped.
rough pulsar
@vocal shard If you do get motion sick, play until you do then take a break until you feel fine again. Then go back in, play until you feel sick, take a break. And just keep doing that, your tolerance will increase until you can outlast the controllers batteries.
tall monolith
Bloody hell mate, if I was ever to record a funny and wtf moments in vrchat it would be a 24/7 video
vocal shard
yo i think vrc traders just got ddosed
tired sphinx
Just realized Vive is $930 if including straps for extra trackers
regal sedge
Everyone is affected by motion sickness differently, but for sure you'll be off balance for a bit the first time
vocal shard
Okay someone said you can't bend on the Rift
can anyone acess it
I just saw a video of someone doing it on it
I'M SO CONFLICTED
SOMEONE GIVE ME A VALID ANSWER
regal sedge
I was, and I hardly feel any motion sickness at all
tired sphinx
Excluding shipping costs, and getting VR ready parts
I'm lucky enough to get some fuckin' McDonald's after school
vocal shard
okay thank you @proud folio
carmine stream
Yeah
vocal shard
Someone said you can't move your legs
tall monolith
there is that one time where i found an anime girl ( not a trap thankfully), she was obsessed with one character in the game, and she would go nuts about him, like a yandere simulator, you cant imagine how crazy she would go
olive citrus
My natural tolerance outlasted the batteries from the start. haha
tall monolith
i got scared
gusty crest
I see there is a youtuber who share the vrchat hack
tall monolith
her name was nuts
carmine stream
It depends how the character is animated when your head and arms move down
rough pulsar
@vocal shard Out of the box for both the rift and vive you can move your legs as much as you like, but they won't be tracked in VR. Just your head & hand position.
With the vive get the trackers and you can kick people.
shy nest
well i mean, in the sense that you're bending down irl
rough pulsar
like physically kick your feet at them.
tired sphinx
virtual bj's
proud folio
lol
shy nest
im waiting for a non animation override break dance with vive trackers
will have to be with the new vive because wireless
rough pulsar
@olive citrus The things I can do with my vive trackers and my legs border on truly indecent. 😛
vocal shard
lollll dab wth your feet
olive citrus
That's perfect
tired sphinx
I'm also patiently waiting for someone to bust a fuckin' move in VR
vernal siren
Does anyone know why I was kicked??
velvet quarry
Time to tell Lolathon to get good at break dancing.
tired sphinx
streamers get on that shit asap
olive citrus
My leg jealousy will know no bounds
vocal shard
I hope I made a good decision buying the Rift @proud folio
olive citrus
As I want to dance with them way too much. haha
haughty parrot
I want feet trackers so i can hold 2 pints of beer while doing that kick dance
proud folio
I bought the rift a week ago as well, I dont regret it
shy nest
i just hope that if oculus does come out with trackers it follows the same sort of route they took with the controllers, making them basically feel like they arent there
vocal shard
I get it in the mail tomorrow
tired sphinx
Kazotsky kick dance pls
floral aspen
@shy nest if they do it won't be until cv2. The current sdk doesn't support multiple tracked objects unfortunately
rough pulsar
Clearly I need to learn various dances just to entertain you lot.
shy nest
do it
carmine stream
Dew it
haughty parrot
Your a flexible metal. You can do it
shy nest
take dance classes just so you can show off in vr, feel like it'd be worth it
rough pulsar
I am also a flexible person. 😉
haughty parrot
OvO
vocal shard
oh god
olive citrus
Dancing in VR is super fun, I imagine it becomes a whole lot more fun with leg movement
vocal shard
looool
olive citrus
Then when you shake your hips it's actually picked up. haha
rough pulsar
There's a lady I work with who does… swing dancing I think? And she's agreed to let me 'record' her dancing sometime with my vive trackers+controllers.
shy nest
if they ask why you want to dance just respond with "i wanna impress anime girls and the ugandan knuckles" they'll know exactly when you tell them that
haughty parrot
Whats swing dancing
rough pulsar
dancing to swing music I guess
tiny shadow
guys
shy nest
dancing on a swing? 🤔
tiny shadow
is there tutorial for adding effects to our avatars?
rough pulsar
Like this I imagine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26-1t15R_MU
rough pulsar
With 6 more trackers I could record both dancers to some degree.
tired sphinx
oh shit youtube is gonna start demonetizing small channels and paying bigger ones more now
shy nest
how much are the trackers anyway? dont have a vive just curious
bold citrus
Rip
tired sphinx
o o o o o o f
tired sphinx
each
shy nest
oh so at least 130aud 
bold citrus
Me and my 20 subs are gonna die 
vocal shard
vrchat needs more mods ):
tired sphinx
unless you buy them off someone for cheap
velvet quarry
Cost me about 400 USD when you put shipping ontop of it.
rough pulsar
Yeah. If you're getting trackers for vrchat, get 3 together. Saves on shipping.
shy nest
let me just say that amazon to australia shipping sucks serious ass
low phoenix
Anyone knows if you can do fullbody tracking with oculus?
shy nest
well i can see why tbh
glossy wharf
with a bit of hacking you can just build body tracking on the rift
and its cheaper
you can use the microsoft kinect
ripe comet
You can use a kinect can't you?
rough pulsar
@low phoenix With the xbox kinect, or PSMove controllers.
Both are hacky and you get what you pay for.
haughty parrot
I keep my first time dynamic bone model for raves. When i mildly spin the battle gear tears appart and reforms
vocal shard
i was gonna use a xbox kinect but it looks so complicated
rough pulsar
Once working you will get some leg movement out of them.
Exactly how much and how well, flip a coin.
tired sphinx
I think I still have that old junky kinect somewhere around here
haughty parrot
Also laughing my ass of when someone puts dynamic bone on the eyes
low phoenix
@rough pulsar thx but do you need the psmove controllers if you have vive controllers?
rough pulsar
@low phoenix Vive controllers for hands, PSMove for hips and feet.
low phoenix
@rough pulsar Ah oke thx 😃
tired sphinx
I wonder how people apply dynamic bones to the whole body without it surpassing the limit? I've seen some real spazzy models that just wiggle and go nuts
rough pulsar
Although if you have a vive, you might as well save yourself a lot of time, effort and screaming by saving up for some vive trackers.
vocal shard
Do you have rift? @glossy wharf
little pond
Hmm
glossy wharf
No but i helped my friend setup the kinect tracking with a rift
vocal shard
ah ok
lean mortar
oh k
haughty parrot
Whoaaa rainbows
wise surge
I'm here watching one of Tupper's videos in the background while messing in Blender
glossy wharf
its like one page
little pond
For those wondering, server's infinite loading again is happening
floral aspen
@glossy wharf Microsoft discontinued the adapter you need for that
wise surge
"it going to pop up a special snoflake blender dialog"
glossy wharf
plain current
Servers borked?
glossy wharf
this one works
little pond
yes i just said that
plain current
Sorry just noticed
little pond
is ok
vocal shard
you can use xbox 360 kinect for rift?
glossy wharf
you can combine both
wise surge
kinect is terrible
floral aspen
@glossy wharf that's the adapter for the 360 Kinect not the Xbox one kinect
wise surge
you'll hate life and waste your money
vocal shard
it sounds like it'd be overly complicated to setup lol
What is with people and nazi drawings in the presentation room
🤔
anyone able to get into vrchat?
north fractal
no
severe sundial
nope
vocal shard
Do they think their edgy
little pond
Do the Chat Mod's have any way to send a message to the higher ups? Server's are indeed down again, same issue as last night
inner hearth
servers just shit them selfs lol
haughty parrot
You just enjoyed one of Hitlers artworks
floral aspen
@little pond I'm sure they already know
glossy wharf
@floral aspen so?
little pond
Whether they do or not, it's better safe than sorry imo
north fractal
they always go down when i open my evening beer and get ready to start playing 😦
floral aspen
@glossy wharf I thought driver4vr only worked with the Xbox one kinect
glossy wharf
@floral aspen no works with 360 too
vocal shard
Hitler had beautiful art tbh @haughty parrot
floral aspen
Oh
lean mortar
i dont even have a kineckt xd
vocal shard
So is vrchat just down now for anyone else?
lean mortar
its down
safe yacht
Yes
sharp dew
vrchat is acting up
plain current
Rip servers are borking
floral aspen
I have the Xbox one Kinect but you can't get the adapter for it anymore. :(
north fractal
^ just wait
haughty parrot
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 7447 users in VRChat currently
vocal shard
thank you
timid light
okay im back
timid light
well right now im trying to rig a body
carmine stream
I finally got around to designing my OC... now I have to make it...
timid light
well this is my first time
lean mortar
i have my oc (my pfp)
timid light
rigging i normaly import mmd models
lean mortar
cant make it in vr chat tho
north fractal
stuck on space screen on startup -_-
strange wyvern
server boom
carmine stream
I made a rigged 3D model about 6 years ago now... I don’t remember a damn thing let alone modern tools.
proud folio
servers are down
lean mortar
@elder coyote servers are down reeeee
tiny shadow
yay ~
carmine stream
yOp servers are having some “me” time
tiny shadow
sugoi
elder coyote
reEEEEEEEEEE
tiny shadow
time for witcher 3 👀
jagged walrus
is the server down agien
plain current
Servers are derp
vocal shard
wait hackers are patched now?
confirmed. stuck at empty starfield on login. was just working 5min ago
spare root
Sweet
vocal shard
u deleted ur comment fire?
and yea i've seen people teleport all users in a room wherever they want, make themselves look however they want (including changing name above head), kick/crash people from rooms
carmine stream
Yup
vocal shard
yeah someone took my name about an hour ago
proud folio
I've seen a user with a monika skin do that
olive mesa
#rip
vocal shard
who ever decided to release stupid shit like tele and kicking is a dickhead
proud folio
The guy I saw was able to place text over your full vision as well
which was gone after 3 seconds but still
spare root
is in over 20+ servers xD
proud folio
saw that guy twice, he has a custom made monika skin, not sure if it was stolen or not :P
solemn knot
my VRChat isnt loading anymore
proud folio
servers down
digital comet
damn that sucks
gentle karma
hallo
regal sedge
Yeah, that's part of why I haven't played VRChat at all in a couple months... Waiting for them to get the constant server issues sorted out.
spare root
Why are you guys in the hacker group anyways?
vocal shard
i wouldent discuss it here
wild mulch
Anyone elses game not starting?
digital comet
aye
vocal shard
it's adorable that those script kids think clicking some buttons that say "teleport all players to x,y,z" think they're hackers ❤
trim spade
sword me too
vocal shard
@proud folio you can place stuff on the screen without hacks you need advanced (subjective) shaders for that
?
gentle karma
basso
median adder
servers ded?
gentle karma
if u knew what he daid wouldnt you be in that group
gentle karma
said*
pure basin
Servers are down
marble frigate
feelsbadman
median adder
im still in game th0o
low ether
@vocal shard you were in our private room earlier, what were you doing here?
wild mulch
My game wont even fckn start
vocal shard
our?
low ether
yes
marble frigate
stuck at empty login, staring at space lmao
plain current
Space is nice
low ether
it was private and you joined and no one knew you
wild mulch
same @marble frigate
low ether
lul
digital comet
alright kids calm down..
wild mulch
NO
vocal shard
yeah with my freind skyphenoix who was in your session?
wild mulch
i want to play the damn game
steady nymph
Looks like game is down
vocal shard
joined through her?
low ether
oh so skyphoenix was your friend
viscid juniper
Servers died
vocal shard
Your anime waifu will be waiting when servers are back up, don't worry Senpai
steady nymph
And so did discord
wild mulch
Thats a guy if ive ever seen one
viscid juniper
Discord is working again tho
low ether
but elvis, the room was friend only
tiny shadow
how to add effect .fx files to our Unity?
vocal shard
shes the quiet one
low ether
just curious xD
vocal shard
Discord fixed when they upped the member limit. It's not tied to the game server, it just got overloaded similarly around the same time.
low ether
since it is friend only, you should'nt have been able to join since you are not friend to the owner room? 🤔
vocal shard
i just clicked join?
vernal cave
Is the Hackerthing still a big Problem or is it Safe for friends only again? Especially since they apparently got admin tools now
gusty crest
only the room master friend can access it
marble frigate
tfw u go on vrchat and it's knuckle infested
low ether
yes thats why elvis shouldnt have been able to join even tho you are friend with skyphoenix @vocal shard xD
vocal shard
Good. Cryptocurrency is cancer. They cant buy their CP the old fashioned way again.
modest pond
@vocal shard they got meetups now lol, see a big group of a 50 year old men exchanging flash drives you know exactly whats happening
but yea
crypto is a great currency
lilac swan
@vernal cave If you're refering to hackers banning people, well, they cannot ban people at all. They can only spoof bans with custom messages and the "ban" goes away when you switch world and/or restart the game client.
wild mulch
Anyway to fix the fact that the login screen has no... well...login screen
crimson condor
@lilac swan Hi zarni, sorry for the ping but can we have an update on login problem. looks like a lot of people have encountered it.
vernal cave
Oh okay
dusk bobcat
oh so there's actually a problem with login?
steady nymph
Maybe some idiot try to teleport all in one world
lilac swan
I'm a discord mod, not part of the backend team.
vocal shard
Is anyone also getting stuck on the login screen
wild mulch
YES
digital comet
aye
crimson condor
😢
steady nymph
See the chat above
plain current
Stuck on loading
vocal shard
Damn
plain current
It doesn't even show a login screen
lilac swan
So I don't know anymore about when the login servers will be up anymore than you guys.
vocal shard
);
wild mulch
just expand the dev team and your problems will go away >_<
jovial jolt
is the server down?
light salmon
stuck on the galaxy screen
earnest ermine
"just"
light salmon
it's not even showing it's loading
spare root
@lilac swan good thing I got this week’s traveling Kitsunes done early
steady nymph
The server is sideways
earnest ermine
devs grow on trees
wild mulch
Coders do
wild mulch
Half the people that are in college in VRchat take something related to CS
steady nymph
I like the black hair one
plain current
CS?
wild mulch
computer science
steady nymph
Oo
regal star
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 4744 users in VRChat currently
steady nymph
I also uploaded all three
spare root
Give me a sec to get on my laptop and I’ll tell you @vocal shard
earnest ermine
if the issue was so easy to solve it would be solved
steady nymph
Look at that decrease of players
vocal shard
!players
serene orbit
so uh.. anyone else having trouble with getting stuck after the first loading screen when starting up the game?
steady nymph
!offline
vocal shard
!online
steady nymph
Read
floral flaxBOT
There are 4744 users in VRChat currently
deft copper
I'm stuck
vocal shard
I miss time with steady low numbers but no knuckles and hackers 😦
mild harbor
Is it safe to log in or is risk of being banned high by hackers?
deft copper
I don't know why is the game broken with only 4k players
earnest ermine
you can try logging in
wild mulch
Modders*
mild harbor
Well im unsure tho e.e
steady nymph
They are bunch of kids
jade zephyr
Something going on, on the servers? Low player amount atm?
steady nymph
SEE THE CHAT ABOVE
vocal shard
Hi
steady nymph
you can see the server is sideways
vocal shard
is the game working for anyone atm?
lilac swan
@deft copper Risk of getting banned by hackers is 0%, and has always been. They can only spoof "bans" on you.
jovial yacht
Hackers looks better on youtube titles though
serene orbit
yeh.. my VRChat has turned into Alt + F4 simulator for now lol
gusty crest
and it is not take down
earnest ermine
need a bot that posts the same message "server is down" every 3 minutes or so when it goes down
gusty crest
it need to be taken down by the Dev
earnest ermine
lmao
vocal shard
Uhh;;;
lilac swan
Sorry, wrong person :P
deft copper
I mean I spend most of the time on private servers so
vocal shard
Hello?
steady nymph
Incoming users who will only ask " is the server broken" then won't chat again
lilac swan
@mild harbor Risk of getting banned by hackers is 0%, and has always been. They can only spoof "bans" on you.
plain current
Gos this is hell
mighty fjord
So why does the community feel using others' avatars is a bad thing?
plain current
Huuu?
lofty quest
@vocal shard 🤔
paper cloak
probably only 2% of thopse people are talking at once
digital comet
i can onkly imagine the stress the mods go through\
serene orbit
i'm not really active on this discord no, too many servers >.>
tepid raptor
give the rest of us plebs the ability to ban hackers 😏
mild harbor
People scare me...
spare root
@vocal shard how the traveling kitsune board works is that you press the center button to turn it on, when it's on you press the arrows to cycle through the articles, and press the center button to create a portal to the world we talked about (you can only create one portal at a time). HOWEVER, the board is tempermental so you have to be gentle with it and not cycle through it too quickly
quick finch
@mighty fjord What do you mean using other's avatars? Most folks in this community use avatars found online
mighty fjord
But I mean, who cares? You're still going to use your own avatar @vocal shard
paper cloak
yeah, and most of them only have 2-5 other people talking
spare root
pan's looking for a unity expert to help with it
paper cloak
this one is the most by far
spare root
as well as a couple other things in that world
crimson condor
zarni could you pm tupper maybe, he always posts in #announcements about that stuff
steady nymph
@mighty fjord you don't understand the feeling
dense moat
