they can decide if they want the name or not i think
#vrchat-general-2
vast lintel
split steppe
@analog frost unfortunately they seem to be in such a minority it doesnt really count
visual birch
True @mental ember they can get this anti-cheat engine which stops people from doing a .dll , buffer overflow, and some other crap...
quiet willow
i mean, the name shown when u select them while panel's up
simple path
analog frost
@split steppe well that minority are probably the most affected by this hacking spree
simple path
Have some of you seen this happen ?
split steppe
no one cares about your original IP lolicharacter with the entire cast of rick and morty running around
lusty sorrel
I just exited vrchat after a hacker teleported everyone in the world and have the log ready but I have no idea how to send it in
lean mortar
i mean we need a word from the develpores here if its actually real
visual birch
I was just on vrchat earlier and seen nothing much of the ordinary
lean mortar
it might be fake
vocal shard
@simple path What...
onyx tendon
@lilac swan ok thanks
quartz marlin
Some models allow you to edit them too though so although you may have got it from somewhere else once brought into game it could be something completly diffrent
visual birch
But hearing the problems here does makes sense of the pop count or so.
raven silo
@charred breach use google drive or one drive then send to #moderation-reports fourms
lusty sorrel
Got it, thank you
soft skiff
@lean mortar Dude, scrollback.
lean mortar
reeee
mental ember
@visual birch Yeah, pretty much. Another thing that makes this issue hard to combat is the fact that this whole game is dependent on creativity and doing your own thing with almost all freewill. Doing too much will limit that and doing too little will let hackers rule. So its a hard balance to strike. I'm sure Second Life knows this feeling all too well as they went through their lifespan
And yeah for some reason I just cant upload tonight. Oh well.
charred breach
Wrong kyo lel
hazy maple
Just make custom models with micro transactions and it's all good
raven silo
upload more to do server issue
split steppe
charge for upload
visual birch
Lol hell no
hazy maple
Like different shirts and hats
split steppe
like 5bucks an upload
soft skiff
MOAR HATS
lusty sorrel
LUL multiple Kyos
lean mortar
im pretty good with the skins i have for now
visual birch
Bad idea to get microtransaction
analog frost
@split steppe do you want to kill vrchat? that's how you kill vrchat
hazy maple
No, it works for other games like PUBG and CSGO
mental ember
Charge for things and then the game will die.
split steppe
and extra if the character is anime to balance out the population
lean mortar
but i should probably stop being lazy and learn how to do more complex avatrs with weapons
quartz marlin
if they had more ppl a way they could make money is possiblly getting requests for personally made avatars
visual birch
Yeah IMA a damn car in vrchat heheh
lilac swan
@mental ember Are you using SDK 2018.01.03.12.06? There was an update not even 24h ago
raven silo
@hazy maple mostly like happen in future vrchat right now need focus on security
visual birch
Oh god I spent hours on tut. To do a lot of the basic stuff
soft skiff
@visual birch When I get a simpit built with a wheel/pedal set I'm going to do that so I can drive around in VRC
mental ember
@lilac swan Well shit, didnt know that lol
lilac swan
Check #announcements
visual birch
Ooh I just did
pale wolf
Just wondering if you open an instance friend only... it wont show up in the worlds tablet will it?
quartz marlin
EXACTLY
pale wolf
As in those who who are not friends wont see it on the tablet when searchibg that public worlds instance
raven silo
there still be option upload free avatar
but there plan for custom avatar be able to sale inside vrchat
hazy maple
and custom things like belts and shoes that would fit all the characters, even if you are a car XD
visual birch
I mean I wish the import wasn't hell but you know... Selling avatars could make sense but idk if it'd be a micro transaction thing be a good idea
pale wolf
Think buying avatars will be more a thing when you can customise them ingame to make rhem look just a little unique
lilac swan
Monetization in some form is planned, an avatar market seems like a no-brainer. Personally I'm learning to 3D model and plan on selling my creations there.
quartz marlin
they should get like sponsers and provide map creaters with like irl vr billboards of there sponsers to put in maps
lilac swan
"Creators will be able to earn from their content" is a quote from one on the dev team regarding monetization.
vocal shard
Down to buy some hot furry avatars if ur into making that
Maybe instead of making uploading cost anything, make the game cost few $
lilac swan
I will be making low-poly stuff mostly
raven silo
upload be free it just if want somone custom cool avatar might have buy from people
pale wolf
If it cost $1 to support it would still earn enough and people would pay that per month
lilac swan
Furry and non-furry stuff
visual birch
No I mean I'm just doing the blender mmd unity thing but the polygon restriction makes it hell @low phoenix
hazy maple
or make the SDK cost money
tall monolith
finally, they created a Ugandan Knuckles plushies
mental ember
I agree with Creators being able to charge for premium models. (im sure they would have to be original too). I just don't think an all around "upload charge" would be a good idea like someone was suggesting.
vocal shard
Furry + sexy doesnt match
soft skiff
ERC821 would be a good idea, implement token based ownership
vocal shard
Yeah whatever weeb
visual birch
SDK cost money? Wut no why would it be..
lilac swan
I like making modest stuff, but I will probably do avatar commissions aswell.
opaque star
We don't kink shame here
raven silo
@visual birch sdk be all free
solar mulch
make sdk cost money to get less people working on worlds and avatars? lel
split steppe
what would be a good price for an avatar? like 5 dolla?
opaque star
This is a wholesome environment
hazy maple
Or have the cost based on the triangle count, like 20k = $5, 50k $10 etc
soft skiff
the price would be what the market is willing to pay
hazy maple
and extra animations some cents
quartz marlin
the problem is though that who's to say someone wouldn't just take a model from the interwebs and try to sell it as there own
visual birch
No I was referring to @hazy maple
raven silo
@hazy maple people need to learn how reduce the material on there avatar ploygon dont effect network
lilac swan
Exactly. The market will solve the pricing on VRchat.
raven silo
it draw call from material
lilac swan
Prices too high, no one will buy them
hazy maple
but with more money you get better network no?
pale wolf
Flat rate of $1 subscription for advanced content (uploading custom anything)
opaque star
Why buy animations when mixamo already provides some animations for free
soft skiff
you seen what some of the idiots in Star Citizen are paying for ships?
split steppe
also pay extra for better decimate modifier work
pale wolf
Per month that could earn in excess of 10k dollars for vrchat
weak frost
there are very little animations on mixamo
mental ember
This is the slippery slope that always comes about when we start talking about micro transactions.
raven silo
@opaque star people can make custom dance you cant get
visual birch
But more polygons means some people won't be able to render?
vocal shard
Make the game cosr few $ so kids wont be able to buy it. Most if them kids are meme/bored hackers. Lol
visual birch
I mean its just a theory but I meant laggy*
raven silo
custom animation would be other thing should be add to avatar market
pale wolf
If it gets to secondlife prices though im out xD
rare fox
@vocal shard overwatch costs 40$ but trolls are everywhere
quartz marlin
@mental ember atleast there is a big community to give ideas about micro transactions
soft skiff
there are things that impact your ability to keep a consistent FPS far above polycount
lilac swan
Personally I think ~5 USD for a decent looking avatar is fair.
tall monolith
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 7476 users in VRChat currently
split steppe
@visual birch they can pay extra to get it rendering properly
raven silo
be able to buy dance animation instead need whole model for it
gritty shard
@raven silo What I'm wondering is if I spawn 10 swords with the same material. Would be the same performance wise as 1 sword with 10 times the polygons?
tall monolith
not bad
vocal shard
@rare fox Make the game VR only then XD
raven silo
@brittle crystal ploygon only effect download speed material will make less for cpu to draw
quartz marlin
@lilac swan so do you make models from scratch then?
rare fox
Don't even think about selling avatars. The creators of models don't allow making profit of them.
lilac swan
That is what I'm trying to get better at right now
indigo forge
Hey everyone ^^
lilac swan
But yes
raven silo
but need to know what % vrchat will take base on how much we can sale custom model
soft skiff
@lilac swan Dude I paid 30 bucks for a model w/textures off the asset store because I though it looked cool and I still had to do all the work rigging and dialing it in.
vocal shard
@indigo forge hayooo
pat pat
pale wolf
$1 subscription for advanced developers... (anyone at all using sdk for model world uploads) ... then % commission on any sales...
untold bloom
@vocal shard https://www.twitch.tv/videos/219435771
I beat your map
pale wolf
The no heavt upfrontcost to the seller
quartz marlin
ay as long as you're having fun
hazy maple
7476 users with 20,000 triangles is 149 520 000 triangles in total
lilac swan
Artists set their own prices ๐คท
dim briar
I don't see why, there could be a really amazing thing that could be started. The demand for more and unique models are getting bigger and bigger, why not have a user run marketplace to sell user made models.
indigo forge
i have been having a bug since i got the game ;^; and i finally got pictures to show it to people. where could i post em in here?
indigo forge
i dont wanna seem rude or anything
mental ember
@pure urchin I agree, but I just hope we're all careful about the whole thing is all. Because imo, what ruined second life is when they started involving an economy. By that I mean alot of the fun was sucked out of the game because everyone then only wanted to be "serious for money". I just don't want it to turn into that is all. In the end we're not the staff so anything could happena nd we're just looking into a crystal ball for what we want to see lol
rare fox
my PC survived Crysis and will survive 60k poly limit.
raven silo
or they sale there own ingame money
mental ember
Damn this upload is taking a long time lol
quartz marlin
true
soft skiff
@mental ember There are other projects similar to VRChat that are already going down that road.
raven silo
vrchat need there own in game money so player can make money off there avatar
split steppe
@rare fox crysis is 10 years old
gritty shard
As long as VRChat doesn't involve lootboxes I'm happy ๐
sullen pumice
If you think selling fully rigged avatar on vrchat for 5$ sounds fair, then you should look how much it sells on the internet .... ;D
thin onyx
How do I see movies in the movie thater?
vocal shard
If anyone's down to make some furry avatars just go ahead and dm me, I'm willing to pay a lotta money
soft skiff
@sullen pumice yep... true.
dim briar
@mental ember I mean that was a downfall to secondlife, but it also opened a huge doorway. Artists and creators were able to make a living income off doing what the love, 3d modelling and texturing, They're basically making a portfolio to join real world game industries. Thats amazing, VRC would just have to do it better than SL did.
pale wolf
Which is why what i mentioned above would work @mental ember ... been in secondlife for me fair share ofnbusiness too. XD
vocal shard
I love me some sexy foxes and shit
thin onyx
It's just a white screen for me
raven silo
VrcCoins
split steppe
@vocal shard whats a lotta money?
vocal shard
@vocal shard I can link you the commission server if you want to pay for avatars.
soft skiff
honestly that's what I predict, an ICO
dusky vault
A lot of avatars are of copyrighted content, so that does have me wondering what would go down if VRChat put up a price for the game or avatars started being sold on the game
vocal shard
@vocal shard Go watch some horse porn u horny motherfucker
@split steppe A lot in terms of avatars
dim briar
They would have ot be models created from scrap.
raven silo
@dusky vault i dont think we see IP avatar in the marekt
untold bloom
damn euro tone that edge down a bit
vocal shard
@vocal shard Stop being a rude dick I'm just tryna ask for some avatars here
quartz marlin
Honestly if it meant a better VRchat i'd be willing to watch a like 30sec long ad when starting the game
soft skiff
good lord no
hazy maple
There should be just one avatar that you commit to when you buy the game and that's it
dusky vault
Oh I'm aware that we'd not see IP sold, but I'm weary that stuff being sold would draw attention to IP content and give people like NT or Anime companies reason to get pissy
pale wolf
The thing that killed sl was the cost to actually get your stuff there... if vrchat only costs $1 flat rate for sdk subscription... then a fair % for any commissions on sales it keeps it more balanced.
soft skiff
I'd rip off my HMD if I had to deal with popup ads
vocal shard
U tryna to find some animal porn, not avatars
hazy maple
what's the point of changing identity? You don't do it in real life either
vocal shard
Boi I know where to find my furry porn
split steppe
if you can afford an HMD you can afford to pay a smalle fee for an upload
vocal shard
Idk where to find furry avatars
rare fox
@split steppe and?
soft skiff
@hazy maple That's kinda the whole point.
quartz marlin
make the loading screens ads that judge the ad off of you're loading speed
sullen pumice
reasons why avatars are free atm:
a) most are imported MMD models
b) they are under CC license
onyx tendon
@hazy maple dude I play games to escape real life, not to simulate it
raven silo
@dusky vault i think marekt going be while till we see it
dim briar
Honestly the USD/or etc currency to SL currency wasn't that rediculous so I mean????
vocal shard
Who the fuck is weeb? You horny animal fucking pony loving kid
quartz marlin
so you watch an ad that be the same loading time
opaque star
https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests please post your suggestions in the forums where the devs frequently look.
vocal shard
@vocal shard I thought u were leaving, pedo
split steppe
@rare fox just sayin. The fact that it "survived" crysis means nothing in 2018
dusky vault
I'm cool to pay a price for the game
untold bloom
euro you need to chill m8
vocal shard
@untold bloom i am xD
tall monolith
guys
dusky vault
like off steam or whatever
soft skiff
'crypto collectables' will be the way things move forward
hazy maple
But then we are back to the original point: What is the difference if someone steals your avatar and impersonates you? He is basically just larping who you are at that point
vocal shard
@vocal shard @vocal shard If you two are going to have beef, do it in DMs.
dusky vault
but eh microtransactions and in game currencies are a slippery slope
raven silo
would anyone just pay subscribe fee?
vocal shard
Yeah let's move to the dms man
mental ember
@dim briar Very true. and to counter my own argument, I brought this up before. But the generation that VRchat is appealing too seems to be alot more focused on fun than the generation that second life was attracting at the height of its popularity. So in the end maybe the fun will outweigh all the seriousness that comes along with profit.
untold bloom
I wouldn't pay a cent to use vr chat, honestly
tall monolith
after i downloadede the sdk version of vrchat, should i install the steam client
vocal shard
@vocal shard No need, blocked that furry gay already
untold bloom
I think donating is the only viable option
vocal shard
No one wants to hear about your pedo fantasies here
hazy maple
@vocal shard that's rude
split steppe
I think roleplaying someone else is fine
dusky vault
monthly subscription would be eh to me. There'd have to be some benefits.
tepid raptor
donating for what?
vocal shard
@hazy maple Blocking isnt rude.
pale wolf
@dim briar true but renting land or being creative with a sim cost a fortune to have a physical inworld presence.
hazy maple
yes, in real life and in VRchat discord both
vocal shard
@lilac swan Yo this dude is being disrespectful towards furries
quartz marlin
i'd pay a one time fee but maybe not a monthly
soft skiff
the problem with moving to a pay-for-service model is the dozen competitors that exist that cost nothing
opaque star
Book boop we need chat mods
vocal shard
I ain't even do anything wrong
dim briar
@mental ember This is also true, but having a marketplace for users to create models wouldn't dampen the fun. It's always possible to get free models too, it would just open a door for people to get something unique.
untold bloom
all I know is I tossed some dosh to get a good computer and an oculus setup
pale wolf
I used to have a calm meditive hangout inhad to close as it cost $80 a month to run... before was on a full sim $200
onyx tendon
they could do something like discord nitro where you get some extra features if you pay, but can still access all the basic stuff if you don't want to spend anything. I think leaving it free to play is a good way of getting new people into vrchat. If you put up a paywall, a lot of people that may be interested won't even try
split steppe
@soft skiff are there free competitors with loligirls??
soft skiff
@split steppe that existed before VRChat even, yes.
untold bloom
but beyond that, nah
vocal shard
There are chat mods.
sullen pumice
The things is, VRC got investors money, so they have (or at least should have) plans on how to monetize ready
tepid raptor
htc and occulus gives em big $$ tho
lilac swan
Multitasking stuff and chat is progressing bit fast to keep track of everything. I was needed?
untold bloom
nah some guys just mud wrestling and dragged you in
lean mortar
oh dam good luck
hazy maple
euro guy is dissing furries
vocal shard
Yeah man we had a real negative nancy in here
soft skiff
@tepid raptor I'd love to see their current bill for AWS right now.
vocal shard
Guy was mad over nothin
sullen pumice
nah @lilac swan we good
vocal shard
Being rude to a big group
hazy maple
He is the black sheep
dusky vault
I'd only put money into it if I was guaranteed good servers and connections, even out here in Straya, and was spared any hackers.
lilac swan
Let me know if it turns into personal insults.
pale wolf
In fact they could probably stay free as they are oculus and htcs best advertisement.
tepid raptor
@soft skiff me 2, wish they'd disclose actual numbers
sullen pumice
sure will, lol
vocal shard
@lilac swan He already did that man, he blocked me and got outta here
gritty shard
having it pay to play even a tiny amount would probably deter a lot of hackers though since right now it's so damn easy to access
dusky vault
I used to play GTA:Online and the constant timeoutes and hackers in that game made me wonder what Take2 was doing with all that Sharkcard money
raven silo
i think security need be first thing before any market system come in place no one would upload avatar if somone can steal it
quartz marlin
agreed
soft skiff
It's going to be interesting moving forward, the recent surge in users and popularity is always good and draws in eyes of even bigger investors
pale wolf
Yes definitely
dim briar
Words are just words buddy, they only have meaning when we ourselves attach meanings to them. Just don't take anything personal and move on.
pale wolf
Stabalise the system first
lilac swan
@vocal shard https://i.imgur.com/n8rORby.png Giving you a formal warning for this, this is not excellent behaviour.
gritty shard
just upload half ass things for now that you don't care about ๐
vocal shard
But he was tellin me how I wanna fuck ponies and shit, I don't wanna do that
It's just not right
soft skiff
But, the million dollar question is how do you make this pay the bills? And I'm sure they're working really hard on that part.
dim briar
Well that's someone on the internet assumin shit, it don't mean nothin.
You da tough guy
vocal shard
Still hurtful
dim briar
Yes it is no excuse.
hazy maple
@soft skiff crypto coins most likely
raven silo
@soft skiff they have investor and some money from valvve
soft skiff
Let me level set
pale wolf
Started mining bitcoin today
dusky vault
hide a bitcoin miner in the client ๐
pale wolf
Might come in handy xD
lapis lintel
thats disguesting shadoo
gritty shard
@pale wolf you rich yet?
opaque star
Rip all the gpus
dusky vault
It's a joke
pale wolf
Made ยฃ5 so far i think
soft skiff
@raven silo You would be shocked at how fast you can burn through 4 million.
hazy maple
@dusky vault that's honestly the only way. Why else would there ve a 20k poly limit if modern games can have millions os polys in game
that processing power has to go somewhere
pale wolf
About 3 hours with 1080ti and two 970s then overnight with one 970
Back on thismorning all 3
tepid raptor
no wonder my pc is acting up when I launch vrchat ๐ค
opaque star
Give your pc a rest :c
tepid raptor
tfw being played
soft skiff
@hazy maple Honestly it wouldn't be a bad idea to use a token for in-game property ownership transfer and payment
hazy maple
@dusky vault but it is a viable way to get money though
raven silo
vrchat is all about the CPU
lilac eagle
dynamic bones anyone?
thorny sail
So if vrchat is not bad anoth this idot makes a totorial on how to hack vrchat
hazy maple
and should become a norm for free websites aswell
quartz marlin
reason to live anyone?
soft skiff
@hazy maple There are projects similar in design to VRChat that are going down that road, but are years behind VRC in terms of having a functional system and established userbase.
dusky vault
True but it's stressing the components of another users PC and driving up their power bill. Services ran fine before BTC mining, so it's not like they are totally reliant on it now it's a thing.
raven silo
sansar is boring
vocal shard
Patting anime girls is a reason to live.
gritty shard
Becoming an anime girl is a better reason to live.
dusky vault
It gets more money sure but you treat your users worse in order to get it, which in turn could drive them away from you
quartz marlin
true
hazy maple
@dusky vault coin mining is nominal in your power bill
pale wolf
Yeah sansar really failed... they came in late with a terrible early access
raven silo
sansar your just generic human if they have idea from secound life they should use there avatar system they have all ready
soft skiff
I wouldn't say it's failed, but it's off to a rough start.
vocal shard
coin mining is not nominal lmao
dusky vault
Any difference is a difference
hazy maple
if there are hundreds of thousands of people doing it for you
split steppe
vrchat should set up its own ico ugandacoin or something
pale wolf
Place looks nice but its hard to build... and the physics are diabolic
olive pine
is that the way?
gritty shard
thanks guys I now have Ebola...
dusky vault
D:
quartz marlin
Can we take a moment to just appreciate the VRchat team for trying there hardest to deal with this explosive situation with the small team they may be
dusky vault
appreciates VR Chat team
pale wolf
โ
gritty shard
OMFG why is there no Ebola Chan yet?!?
dusky vault
There is one
lilac swan
There is
restive bronze
hey @tame lagoon just pinging you here to check your DMs, It's the youtuber from VRCtraders
vocal shard
There's one already.
soft skiff
@pale wolf This was my tweet about it after trying to use the first release - https://twitter.com/Moike_the_Squid/status/892289620318105600
dusky vault
It was made when the whole outbreak was super spoopy I think
hazy maple
Can we have a moment to appreciate the original content creators, especially the MMD team
gritty shard
i know there is ebola chan but I mean in VRChat?
lilac swan
Question is, is there a Ebola chan model out there?
vocal shard
Yes
dusky vault
oh I see
vocal shard
I've seen them last nigyt
vocal shard
Yes
gritty shard
there is
lilac swan
I have seen one
dusky vault
Sounds juicy
gritty shard
still don't understand how some things even become a meme ๐
quartz marlin
@lilac swan have you ever had a wtf moment when making a avatar and something super unexpected happens but you love it
dusky vault
Discord-chan avatar when?
How about VRChat-chan
vocal shard
Like the knuckles one
opaque star
lilac swan
Yeah. My Fionna avatar in my dungeon world keeps spazzing her arm for everyone else but you locally.
quartz marlin
beautiful
lilac swan
Never gonna fix it
vocal shard
@dusky vault There is discord chan already. Not the model tho i think.
My fav chan is Jackie Chan
lilac swan
(Or maybe I will I dunno)
vocal shard
If it aint totally broke, no need to fix it. :geblobcatshrug:
soft skiff
My River Song would do the creepiest possessed-demon-eyeroll flutter when I'd talk
lilac swan
My favourite chan is Chris Chan
vocal shard
Chris Chan Chan Nel
gritty shard
some things don't seem broken till you use full body tracking...
opaque star
2014 meme
vocal shard
๐
lilac swan
My chun-lee avatar apparently is super broken for desktop users, but works fine in VR
vocal shard
^
soft skiff
note to self, make Chumlee from Pawn Stars avatar...
dusky vault
I was watching another stream earlier today talk about VR Chat body tracking and they mentioned hip and leg tracking which sounded pretty cool. Can imagine it's a world of new headaches for avatar makers tho
opaque star
๐ค
dusky vault
A while back I saw video of someone using a kinect
raven silo
@dusky vault tracking been out for while
soft skiff
I have two Vive tracking pucks but I need a wireless adapter for my Vive before I can safely use them.
gritty shard
I use kinect with oculus. lots of avatars hips turn 90 degrees or somewhat. also ruins your view position. and some reason with full body my dante's legs are backwards when running
raven silo
@dusky vault to much for server might make them crash lol
dusky vault
Lol I know, just a funny thought
wonder if someone would mod some kinda mocap into it tho
soft skiff
I was able to hack together decent face tracking with my DK2 just using facerig and a webcam
quartz marlin
i'm hungry I should probably eat
dusky vault
O:
gritty shard
such intelligence
vocal shard
Smart
lilac swan
vocal shard
@viral stratus <--- Life changer.
Can u teach us more usefull stuff? Pleaseee
dusky vault
This is very sugoi
vocal shard
Oh shit let me try
gritty shard
hang on... let me try it
hazy maple
smoking also makes you less hungry
quartz marlin
if you think about it humans only have 2 min to live breathing just resets the timer
dusky vault
Can you eat cigs while smoking them? Get less hungry twice as fast
dusky vault
So that means you could live forever if you just keep breathing
quartz marlin
exactly
lilac swan
If you stacked all the elephants in the world on top of each other, some of them would die
quartz marlin
see
dusky vault
Age is just an illuminati construct. The faster you breath the younger you get
gritty shard
apparently with enough cigs shaving off your life you can even go back in time
vocal shard
Im going to have fun with no breathing. Brb
quiet willow
isnt it more like u put urself in the future?
gritty shard
I meant to say it takes away your time.
lilac swan
Would you even be able to process going back in time though? Your brain require impulses to travel through your nervous system, which is happening through time moving forward. If time stopped or went backwards, then those impulses wouldn't be moving "forward" thus you not being able to process or being concious of traveling back in time.
gritty shard
i'm drinking
vocal shard
My brain can't even process reading that.
mental sigil
This is some deep shit
quiet willow
//mind-blown
gritty shard
@lilac swan get out. I watched xavier renegade angel so I know what doth life.
lilac swan
Only saw the first episode of that. Saving the rest of the series for when I really need to mellow out and doth life
safe yacht
Time travel is always a mess.
You gotta suspend your disbelief for the sake of the story.
lilac swan
Time travel and higher dimensions always facinated me
soft skiff
I always liked the whole idea of not only do you have to get the time/date you want to travel right, but you have to take into consideration the position in the universe at the exact moment you want to be, lest you just transport yourself back to empty space, or into the middle of a star.
safe yacht
Because in that, time travel is magical in nature rather than scientific.
So you cna go "WELL, MAGIC"
lilac swan
As I understand it, time is more of less a 3D snapshot of the entire universe, which is just going forward frame by frame
safe yacht
Our perception of it is flawed.
soft skiff
so if you want to go forward or backward within time and remain in the exact spot you started out in you need to do some math or you won't stick the landing.
safe yacht
We simply cannot perceive it.
glad crow
But black holes destroy information
light ivy
Holy moly i get on discord and i get astronomy and quantum physics
lilac swan
4th dimentional beings (Like us humans) can only flow along the river of time. 5th dimentional beings can hop to whichever "snapshot" they want but never change the order of the snapshots themselves. 6th dimentional beings can "rewrite" those snapshots however they want as long the universe's laws allow it
light ivy
Continue :3
soft skiff
we'll be folding space to traverse distances long before we figure out time travel
quiet willow
So, if the concept of time-travelling is possible, we will become 5th dimentional being?
safe yacht
I think that us putting laws on everything is our flawed perception.
soft skiff
of course this is all just a simulation anyway so none of that matters
safe yacht
We expect everything to make sense, and I just dont think it does.
quiet willow
we lack the ability to know if the concept make sense or not
lilac swan
Depends on if we can use that information to change history or not
safe yacht
Of course there's a way of things. But I don't think we've the capacity to understand it.
quiet willow
we have no basis nor anything to prove that it's true anyway
lilac swan
Also depends on which theory of time travel you're using
safe yacht
We're limited by our dimensions!
soft skiff
I had a GF who was a doctorate in physics and her father was a professor in physics at San Jose State and I've had way too many of these nosebleed inducing conversations.
gritty shard
wouldn't work well? you would either see nothing or everything would be thin?
quiet willow
make entire world to be flat and spreading on 2 dimension only, set world collider to be very narrow so u can on move in 2-axis only
gritty shard
otherwise not really 2D
wraith anvil
You would just see colours which change depending on the distance the other flatland creatures are away from you
lilac swan
In practice I guess everything would be 1 pixel tall and it being stretched upwards
soft skiff
what you want to build is called an etch-a-sketch
quiet willow
and u need special avatar for it that have side way pov
fiery rune
tfw can do almost anything except rig
lilac swan
I also want to experience VR apps where the left eye is normal but the right eye is facing backwards
quiet willow
lol wut
lilac swan
Cool shit like that
quiet willow
would be very trippy
gritty shard
well I have a proper 2D character already in mind I would use since the 3D model is no longer available...
soft skiff
chameleon eyes
eternal ginkgo
I like throwing up too
lilac swan
Or increasing the virtual FoV to 360 degrees
quiet willow
having like, half of the inner sight be front, and outer half be back might be better?
or have it pan out like google 360
soft skiff
the amusing thing is if you wore the HMD in that configuration long enough your brain would eventually learn how to process the visual information and it would feel normal.
quiet willow
and when u r back to actual world, u cant stand straight
soft skiff
Then when you took the HMD off you'd be hosed with normal visual input for pretty much the exact same amount of time it took your brain to learn how to process the distorted information.
gritty shard
Already woke up one day and couldn't turn off my alarm because I was literally trying to control myself as if I was wearing my VRheadset. Hate to know what a 2D world would do to me IRL
quiet willow
talking sophistical is fun, in its own way
soft skiff
I fell asleep in my simpit while playing Elite Dangerous... parked in the station waiting for an item to refresh in the commodities market and nodded off.
lilac swan
One time when I played VRchat for almost 6 hours straight I kept seeing the mic indicator in real life
soft skiff
When I woke up I was very confused.
lofty atlas
I wake up in the middle of the night, shocked on how extremely responsive my arms are.
gritty shard
omg these graphics in "the real world" are disgusting
lofty atlas
Sometimes i slap things off the table expecting to to stick to it because i made a fist halfway through.... vr is breaking me slowly.
quiet willow
should i be glad that i dun have that problem just yet cus i have no VR set?
gritty shard
too much immersion 11/10 IGN
vocal shard
An African warlord in Gia Night told me that they originally found the way and the knuckles people stole it from them and they are a disease and there blood must be shed ๐ค๐
soft skiff
Driving into the evening sun squinting with my hand over my eyes thinking, "This shader is bullshit..."
vocal shard
He pulled out a gun and started shooting them
lofty atlas
I've also started the habbit of booping my wife in the nose, she seems to be fine by this so that bullet is dodged.
vocal shard
Speaking of, does anyone know how to remove sleep move for rift?
So I can wake up not seeing a black screen.
gritty shard
omg yeah VR on my head 24/7 has totally made my eyes hurt with any bright lights xD
quiet willow
VRchat : booping intensified
soft skiff
@vocal shard you mean when you pull the headset off and the screen blacks out?
quiet willow
it's kinda funny how people like to do boop-ing to cute things in VR
vocal shard
Non, it's when I sleep. It just goes to sleepmode if you dont move for a while.
lilac swan
I find being in VR strangely more comforting than in real life. Everything that happens in the virual world can be explained in lines of code, logic and such, unlike the real world.
gritty shard
I like having a giant model and stepping on people with full body
lofty atlas
It's adorible, i must violate its personal space.
quiet willow
lolol
opaque star
Pls don't boop my snoot
gritty shard
knuckles explained with logic?
vocal shard
A dumb meme.
lilac swan
Yes
vocal shard
Explained.
gritty shard
ahh ty
quiet willow
someone need to make clown nose that actually boop when someone boop it
lofty atlas
I mostly find VR soothing because the community is absolutely batshit crazy. there is always something amusing right around the cornor.
soft skiff
@vocal shard That's going to be a Windows display setting.
lofty atlas
And yes the devs may quote me on that one ^^
vocal shard
Don't think it is because I already have it set to "Never"
lilac swan
It is pretty much like the early days of the internet all over again imo
thin ember
If you drink and play vrchat are you a social drinker? 
gritty shard
If only I could taste things in VR
soft skiff
@vocal shard I use a CV1 for development and my solution while working has been a bit of tape over the face sensor... the HMD has literally sat on my desk untouched for hours while I'm working with the displays still lit, it doesn't sleep.
lofty atlas
Effectively my stories to friends went from, "that time i got wasted..." to "So i decided to go and draw something in presentation room and..."
soft skiff
which I should mention, is horrible for your displays in your CV1 and can cause burn in
split steppe
@lilac swan I agree. the real world is a chaotic and miserable place where people dont understand they are not truly free - they are shackled by the constructs we built around us. VR is less chaotic
lilac swan
@gritty shard Here, eat this tasty looking piece of cake! (Actually tastes like literal poo)
quiet willow
we got limited by the non-existence physics instead
lilac swan
I would argue it's still existing, just in a virtual sense
split steppe
it is funny since NEO got UNPLUGGED to ESCAPE we PLUG IN to ESCAPE XDDDD
lofty atlas
That moment you drink beer in vr and your body starts acting up as it has been prepairing for it for over an hour and you drank nothing.
Effectively you're being a tease towards your own brain.
vocal shard
By that time, you should buy drinks and actually get drunk.
quiet willow
just make the drink looks weird
lilac swan
Maybe humanity will instead of exploring outwards, going into space and colonize other planets, it will explore inwards, going into virual worlds instead?
soft skiff
far less technical challenges
quiet willow
why do we still stick to the traditional looks of food and drink?
sharp prism
Can someone ban the fucking hacker on gaia nights
gritty shard
and more possiblities
split steppe
then we will find FOUNTAINS of truth
quiet willow
reminded me of an avatar that eats knuckles like tomatoes
lofty atlas
I'm absolutely fine with that at this point @lilac swan , vr has more cute lolis
lilac swan
Lolis are disgusting though in my opinion
lofty atlas
A diferent galaxy is nice and all, but vr promises more cuteness then space rocks.
soft skiff
I mean crap, look at Elite Dangerous, the Stellar Forge engine has 400 billion star systems a player can visit, each one unique.
thin ember
gritty shard
Well in VRChat we all already found aliens. So far the virtual world is already a step ahead
quiet willow
sadly, this game is not suit for small child to play
soft skiff
that's what Rec Room i sfor
vocal shard
I sya children shouldnt use vr in the first place.
quiet willow
so we cant have actual children being children in here
vocal shard
@lilac swan "Blerh... kids" xD
lofty atlas
Only grown ups get to be kids in VRChat, kids get to be mutant sega characters.
vocal shard
Lmao
split steppe
Can we take a moment to appreaciate the work VRChat devs are doing? They are really pushing humanity forward toward a better world where everybody is virtual
quiet willow
lol
lofty atlas
My avatar is a loli pupper, it's perfection squared.
vocal shard
@celest heart Then u stick that in accidentaly
sly aspen
Its such a magical world when I can meet hitler and the gang
lilac swan
Cats are cute, you mean
quiet willow
yeah, until you hear them talking in an old man voice
lofty atlas
Old man loli is best loli.
vocal shard
Manly lolis ftw.
quiet willow
oldman loli fox
lofty atlas
Especially with a deep wiski and cigarette damaged voice.
Essentially i want a johny cash loli.
lilac swan
My cat lets me pet her belly
vocal shard
Oh wait, ain' that Magnanix?
serene merlin
cats are a blessing
vocal shard
If you consider his avatar as loli
gritty shard
Virtual nojya loli fox girl oji san...
quiet willow
i bet most of us here are cats people
lofty atlas
My cats likes to assault me while in VR. so i have to seal of my office and make sure they did not stow away somewhere for a sneak attack.
quiet willow
@brittle crystal one of the best Vtuber
grand zealot
Is anyone able to help me with japanese password instructions?
quiet willow
zipping?
serene merlin
im not a cat person, i love animals in general
gritty shard
fox girls best girls
lofty atlas
So you're a open minded cat person?
lilac swan
My cat steals my computer chair when I play VR and generally keeps out of the way
quiet willow
he changed his channel's name to animal-ears nation or something though
serene merlin
you could say that
lofty atlas
Sadly i can't stick around youtubers and streamers to mutch.
serene merlin
same
lofty atlas
Players bunch up around them causing massive frame loss when i look in their direction.
vocal shard
Become the youtuber yourself.
gritty shard
honestly I find them boring anyway and suck away any fun that could've been there
lofty atlas
I'm slowly building a community of friends and friends friends.
quiet willow
i need more friends in VRchat
vocal shard
@quiet willow friend req spam
I wish to do that to but it's hard if you don't talk in game. 
lofty atlas
I get like 3-5 invites every map i am at. o.o
quiet willow
and not just randomly spamming friend on some unknown people
serene merlin
jelly
gritty shard
i wish there were more worlds with games to play than the ones already there
quiet willow
i want gaming community in here
lofty atlas
Is there an actual friend limit by the way?
serene merlin
don't think so
soft skiff
I put a tracking puck on my cat's harness, but didn't make a specific cat-like model for my cat in the environment I built to test it with, I just made her a rectangular cat-sized box
lilac swan
When playmaker hits I'm sure more game worlds will be out there
quiet willow
but if they are using VR, they cant play game, i guess
gritty shard
but playmaker won't be for Avatar's at all?
soft skiff
and I nearly crapped myself laughing because this rectangle would waddle over to me in VR and meow at me
quiet willow
lol
lofty atlas
I'm both worried and excited for the worlds with more scripting options.
soft skiff
hmm
lofty atlas
I want a proper shooting range. <3
soft skiff
wonder if I could bring my cat in to VRC
lilac swan
Playmaker is just the short-term solution for scripting
gritty shard
i think it would be more exciting if someone is actually willing to buy it and bother making something
lofty atlas
With a box i can stand on so i can see over the counter...
quiet willow
she probably wont like it
lilac swan
Long-term I believe there will be a VRC scripting language
quiet willow
cat's eyes aint like us humans
soft skiff
well, obviously not stick her in a headset
just run a VRC instance on another system in the shop and track her puck
lofty atlas
A cat vr headset would be adorible tho...
soft skiff
maybe use a wireless mic
lilac swan
Poor cats though
lofty atlas
At this point yeah, it would be heavy and cumbersome.
lean mortar
.>
gritty shard
before you know it the cat will have more friends than you
soft skiff
that's not a high bar to set
lofty atlas
inb4 the cat refuses to add you and nobody cares anymore because the cat is cooler.
quiet willow
give it a mic, and scratch the chin, and let the whole world hear ur cat purrs
lean mortar
yaa must be
quiet willow
get out of there @vocal shard , there's nothing u can do but report the teleporter right now
lilac swan
Send a report through #moderation-reports and include your output log!
lofty atlas
Yeah there are no real tools avaiable to us outside of reporting them.
lilac swan
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
soft skiff
She follows people around when they're using the Vive - https://i.imgur.com/5uhdSZK.jpg
lofty atlas
That is adorible.
vocal shard
That's a fluffy cate.
lofty atlas
Also i want that play area...
gritty shard
that space
olive citrus
My cat doesn't even care when I'm on my vive
vocal shard
olive citrus
she'd rather sleep
lilac swan
Nice virual boy in the background
lofty atlas
I would not have my thumb completely borked if i had that space.
quiet willow
man, i missed the time when a cat massage my lap
lofty atlas
I keep loosing fistfights in vrchat because of concrete walls...
gritty shard
I just can't believe I haven't broken my TV yet
soft skiff
@lilac swan Bought new from Toys 'R' Us in 1996, I've held onto it all this time.
lilac swan
hell yeah
gritty shard
@lofty atlas those walls were actually there to protect you from getting into worse trouble
olive citrus
Has the cat attacked anyone using it
lofty atlas
But they are so solid! almost broke my hand twice in a week...
soft skiff
the only thing that cat attacks is food
olive citrus
My cat has attacked pizza before
She somehow managed to nab a slice and ran around growling at it
lofty atlas
Mine attacked my super spicey chicken filet once.
quiet willow
poor pizza
lofty atlas
The sadness that night on the litterbox was...audable.
olive citrus
haha
quiet willow
lol
soft skiff
the stack of boxes in that corner of the shop has grown by quite a bit - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN5lWWQVwAAsO1j.jpg
lofty atlas
Why do you have this mutch space?!
lofty atlas
That is one hell of a mancave...
quiet willow
if im to have VR space, mine would be only 2x2 m^2
lofty atlas
Mine is about 3x3 meter
soft skiff
...so I like do this stuff for a living, for over three years now. It's why I'm sitting at my desk in my office at 2:22 AM working in React on one monitor and talking to all of you in another.
gritty shard
with full body tracking. trying to stay in my already small space to have the legs detected by the kinect... less than 1x1 >.>
lofty atlas
Kinda expected that bit. god if i had even remotely that kind of office.
worldly comet
@soft skiff awesome studio you got there ๐
lofty atlas
Mine is pretty darn small sadly. And i has 3 desks in there so floor space is limited.
vocal shard
@lofty atlas use roof then lol
soft skiff
But, it is a glorious desk to burn the midnight oil at - https://i.imgur.com/OscT7ya.jpg
lofty atlas
That would be amazing, build a makeshift roof on it. Sadly i have it filled with solar panels.
quiet willow
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 6534 users in VRChat currently
gritty shard
thats a lot of hackers
vocal shard
xD
worldly comet
out of curiosity, what exactly do you do in the studio that bring in money? Are you building games or are you renting out VR time to people or something along those lines?
soft skiff
@worldly comet We have an industrial-use-case application we developed that fills a niche market nicely and pays the bills, and we have a social application in the works... but nothing that would be considered a competitor to VRC.
worldly comet
I see, that's awesome ๐
soft skiff
What I originally planned for the company and what we've actually end up doing are wildly different things, but it's been a fun ride.
vocal shard
Hello! My friend joined up with a username, but put in the wrong email, is there anyway to cancel the email request and request it for his actual email?
Accept email and change the email later. Thats what i would do prob
gritty shard
"wrong email" is it an email they have access to?
vocal shard
He said he has to verify the email he put down at creation before he can change it to his actual email
No he tried to create it but it's taken
soft skiff
Ok, time for me to wrap up and head home, it's way too late. good night and bbl.
vocal shard
Does VRchat have an account support email?
OOH.. that.. wont the email req wont work after some time?
worldly comet
@vocal shard support@vrchat.com
vocal shard
He might just contact support to delete the acc or do a new one with changed name
Okay thank you ๐
tall monolith
OMG
quiet willow
?
tall monolith
no one ever told me that uploading a skin is easy
brave dragon
jesus, encountered 2 hackers within 45min of streaming
both teleported and crashed the lobbies
shadow iris
I encountered one, but it was the same one multiple times
brave dragon
it's pretty easy to spot them honestly
tall monolith
yes it is
brave dragon
since most people use avatars from rooms, most hackers I've seen just use the default
shadow iris
Not same, some of them can steal your avatar, or other players
tall monolith
im not a hacker tho
brave dragon
I look for cloned avatars as well
tall monolith
I believe you are trying to hint to something nue
brave dragon
and if the name is different
tall monolith
i use default avatar
brave dragon
@tall monolith wat, I'm not accusing you of anything
tall monolith
lol im k
brave dragon
I'm talking about once a teleport happens, one way to spot one is to find a default avatar
never said everyone with default avatar does it. Only as a hint when such an influx happens
shadow iris
The one I saw was using a unique avatar until I would find him. and then he'd steal mine and crash my game
brave dragon
yea, same. If there are two copies of an avatar, it's easier to spot
if onyl there was a way to make twitch clips longer
shadow iris
All I have to say is beware Dog cd9b, because he was stupid enough to not change his name before doing it each time
vocal shard
:ArtsyThumbs:
shadow iris
where the logs at
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
brave dragon
@shadow iris that's the guy who crashed my last session
vast tulip
Happy birthday VRChat! It is 4 years old today!
zinc sable
Ooooh so the teleporting is not made by playful admins? I thought it was made by em..
brave dragon
admins would never do stupid things like that
zinc sable
Its mostly harmless though like teleporting everyone near a portal or something... i dunno.
But anyways
Thanks for telling me. Will keep an eye out.
zinc sable
Mhm.
brave dragon
and when they steal your avatar that you worked hard on
also those custom animations, and someone steals them
it's just dumb
sharp moth
did you make the entire model yourself or do you use an mmd model
brave dragon
I used an MMD model, but I make a lot of custom animations to make it something like my own
I probably should have worded that better lol
I don't mean to steal credit from the creator
zinc sable
Oh. Yeah. I never claim credits of models for myself since I am a shit artist overallm
sharp moth
mmd model creators are starting to get pissed about vrchat apparently
vocal shard
Lol
brave dragon
i'm quite aware
zinc sable
Why wouldn't they if some people are being racist and offensive while using their models.
shadow iris
Well at least I can see that Dog cd9b isn't the dudes actual username in the logs, he was "The Red Menace is Real 2cf6"
lofty quest
Add your nickname on your avatar if someone try to steal just screenshot and report it mod. The nickname is the proof that guys stole your avatar. ๐
But only low level tier hacker will do this mistake.
shadow iris
where am I supposed to send these logs for the devs to see?
brave dragon
@shadow iris did he also play music before he crashed the lobby?
fresh hound
any word on when they'll fix uploading avatars?
lofty quest
@fresh hound Did u already downlaod the new sdk?
brave dragon
@fresh hound update your SDK
vocal shard
@fresh hound update ur sdk
fresh hound
i'm updated
vocal shard
U might be, but ur sdk is?
shadow iris
I don't think so. When I saw him we were basically alone and I was calling him out and then he stole my model (which i can see him load up my model in the logs) and then crashed me out of the server. I don't know if it was everyone
@brave dragon ^
fresh hound
2018.01.03.12.06
safe yacht
AllKn0wingDin0#0378 Use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScy051RCaR0BRe8JPiWpfAgYlAf-VyunKVTm14Q4YMZPY3jDQ/viewform?fbzx=-474236545394583200
Find your outputlog.txt before you start the game again
and include it in the report
Every time you start the game the log is wiped.
zinc sable
I just hope developers dont stop support for this game evenwith all the problems they are facing.
shadow iris
Do I just copy paste the output log?
quiet willow
riding a roller coaster with marching band cats + Umaru OP is just...... woah
dark hawk
Best way to report a hacking user? lol
olive citrus
The thing with TDA MMD models is it does say in their terms of use to not use it outside of the MMD Software
vocal shard
ya but it's gonna spread
lofty quest
No
shadow iris
@celest heart the log is too big for paste bin
lofty quest
They share between friends
vocal shard
Oki im just really scared to log in
safe yacht
Say, is there any model of Fafnir? From the Dragon Maid series.
dark hawk
Someone in this session is flying, has a yellow nameplate with red text that says 'hackerman lily'
languid flicker
it's more like a kick
zinc sable
@safe yacht look out for fafnir in bowlroll using kanji letters. Maybe it pops out there.
Or for short. Go to a dragon maid wiki and copy the japanese text name for fafnir and paste it on bowlroll.
zinc sable
Yeah. That too.
lofty quest
Btw you can make a avatar where he can fly...
zinc sable
What
lofty quest
Already did it.
safe yacht
No there's models that appear to be flying
with jetpacks or other things
But if you target them you'll notice that the model really extends to the ground.
safe yacht
no Fafnir ๐ฆ
lean mortar
i give up trying to get a weapon to my skin
lyric dome
@safe yacht friend of mine had a waldo avatar that does thay
safe yacht
Fly?
There's also models that will disappear at a distance. Which I htink is really neat.
lyric dome
Dang thing was like 30ft in the air
safe yacht
Then as they get closer they start to be more visible.
Yeah there's no limit to how absurd a model can be
lyric dome
Hmm textures set to fade maybe?
lyric dome
Omg i thougjt i was having an acid trip. Went to the mmd room and a guy had a Wendy avatar with fucking ranbow glowing outlines and jiggle limbs
safe yacht
"sh sh sh sh ha ha ha ha" as he crept up on people
lyric dome
Doing the macarena with wobbly arms legs and neck
safe yacht
that Wendy is on a public world
quiet willow
i forgot how to do the fading effect, say it some time ago
polar arch
Yeah. The one with all the Borderlands avatars.
lyric dome
Yeah but the things this guy was doing with it haha
Like jesus i thought i was on acid haha
safe yacht
Yeah that one
safe yacht
Yeah it's got barely any bones in it
There's one that's even more wobbly in the same world
lyric dome
Well its more that all its bones are set to be dynamic with zero exclusions haha
rough pulsar
@vocal shard These 'hackers' cannot ban you. If one of them does 'ban' you, just go to another world or restart vrchat.
lyric dome
I think they shove the spine into dynamic bones
Without exclusions
It turns all the limbs into jiggly bones
vocal shard
I just found out why its so hard to land a basket in Doki Doki
I fukin accidently put bouncing material on the backboard and rim
fml
safe yacht
The dress on my Chii avatar has the same wobbliness to it.
quiet willow
rip
lyric dome
Yeah. You can adjust how much they sway and stuff too
safe yacht
Some folks have a bit too many visual effects
that get a bit too obtrusive.
Good thing Block exists.
safe yacht
Though when someone shows up that's as big as the entire damned pub it's hard to target them...
open your menu, click on them and select Block
lyric dome
True
safe yacht
They will disappear
You dont see them and they dont see you.
It's what I do to all the knuckles
polar arch
I love how people experiment with avatars now, but some people push it. Massive avatars, particles everywhere.. @o@
brave dragon
funnily enough I finally encountered the entertainer knuckles on the videos
brave dragon
sprungusbungus
brave dragon
I don't think I've met that one yet lol
safe yacht
Ooooh the Godzilla series is available on Netflix now
analog frost
I don't block all knuckles. If they start talking about "de way" and such, I'll mute them. If their avatar is obtrusive, then I'll block
brave dragon
I'll post the video in #vrchat-videos
analog frost
but if they're just chillin, I let them chill
brave dragon
The best knuckles are the creative ones
safe yacht
like Aku Knuckles.
analog frost
I have a pretty unique knuckles avatar. It's translucent, so it looks like a ghost
brave dragon
also I was only able to clip 60 seconds of shenanigans, there's at least a couple more minutes of his madness lol
olive pine
I found a knuckles avatar that was a blue knuckles wearing the skin of a red knuckles. That was impressive
polar arch
I have a Knuckles dressed up as Kazuna AI
analog frost
the problem with creative knuckles avatars is some people just block on sight, which is sad
safe yacht
I find most of the actual good people are the ones with VR...
brave dragon
I can see that, it's mostly because VR humanizes the models on screen
safe yacht
THey tend to be talkative, friendly and more mature. In my anecdotal experience.
analog frost
yeah, if they're going to invest $300+ into playing the game, they're not going to waste their chances being dickheads
brave dragon
so there is more connection than seeing a stiff body
safe yacht
which is why a vast majority of KNuckles are garbage memers who're trying to be hip, 3 weeks late.
This is GamezJohn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0EgMQbGLOA
He's fucking brilliant
quiet willow
is there any world worth going right now?
safe yacht
it's not his channel, just him being recorded.
granite coral
Private ones
velvet quarry
The recently released Half Life 2 trainstation port is neat.
quiet willow
im afraid of great pug cus of hackers now
safe yacht
I liked the bowling map.
analog frost
I went to the train station, a hacker came in and changed the skybox to black with red letters spinning that said "you don't know de way"
quiet willow
well, at least to avoid the toxic one
analog frost
I alt+f4'd immediately
quiet willow
if they r cool hacker that's not a d head, im fine with it
granite coral
@brave dragon true, it is less likely to happen
brave dragon
There is no such thing as a "cool" hacker in this game
brittle quarry
yeah I just saw a hacker crashing everyone who called him out for being an ass, me included
rough pulsar
@analog frost That likely wasn't a hacker, just a very interestingly put together avatar.
brave dragon
they're exploiting the game for their own amusement
and putting other players at risk
well, on edge is more accurate
granite coral
@analog frost that was not an hacker
eager ledge
Mfw yesterday mods said not to discuss the topic "hackers" and now everyone is talking about it.
analog frost
because it's been a big problem today
severe mural
@safe yacht not always the case
analog frost
the great pug has been become almost entirely unusable because every instance has a hacker teleporting people around
rough pulsar
Maybe they were referring to the actual hacks themselves? Because they definitely should not be discussed publicly.
eager ledge
This specific youtuber (not naming names for obvious reasons) goes around showing off hacks, even "how to unban myself" where all he does is make a new account... ;-;
severe mural
Yesterday I just showed up saying the servers were broken again and I just got insulted of weeb anime trap, gay, fapping to my model apparently, the list goes on
By guys using VR
shadow iris
All we can really do is hope the devs do something about it soon.
safe yacht
" got insulted of weeb anime trap, gay" ok
eager ledge
Welcome to the invasion of "youtube followers".
Some guy makes a video about urgadan knuckles, next thing you know VRchat gains 20k members in a week and all public worlds are invaded with cancer.
Luckily these memes go as fast as they come.
safe yacht
It'll even out.
shadow iris
This is the time when we have to wait things out. The good people will stay and the bad people will leave eventually.
severe mural
@safe yacht I don't even know myself ๐
safe yacht
The game -is- an advertisement for VR after all.
lyric dome
I give it less than a month
safe yacht
So it's doing its work.
safe yacht
People tend to flock around those that have VR because they're more fun.
rough pulsar
@safe yacht @lyric dome And then people completely lose it when they see someone with full-body tracking on :D
Also can confirm: VR user, are more fun.
lyric dome
Gahd i really want that
shadow iris
fb tracking is amazing
safe yacht
Yeah dont bother that full body tracking stuff, it's expensive as fuck.
safe yacht
And if you live outside the US, even more expensive.
lol
Yeah I just have another 300 laying around for that
no big deal
E X P E N S I V E
eager ledge
Yesterday I met someone with full body tracking. A clown that even had sound effects for slapping people and whatnot. That was hilarious
rough pulsar
It is expensive, but if you either have the money or have other uses for 3 vive trackers, or are a VR developer, then it's totally worth it.
lyric dome
Lol if i start cryptomining i will
rough pulsar
@eager ledge Ahh! You met Lolathon! He's amazing.
eager ledge
Yep
rough pulsar
I was actually the one who pushed him over the edge into regret getting the trackers
safe yacht
Good luck getting the trackers in EU for 300.
analog frost
doesn't the vive's base set include 3 trackers?
rough pulsar
@analog frost No, they're extra.
eager ledge
Then he fell over and he even had a sound for that. Like this cartoonish ridiculousness sound
lyric dome
@celest heart honestly i think i have enough gpu power to mine ethereum
Between my 970 and hd7850 they actuslly mine damn well
The 7850 is only a bit slower than the 970 for mining
rough pulsar
Also my trackers were ยฃ300. (ยฃ99 per tracker) @safe yacht so idk if the prices have changed recently or if it's different on mainland europe.
safe yacht
They're extra and they come either out of the US or China. The shipping on that is absurd if you live in the EU. Can't imagine it's any better if you live in a place like Australia either.
rough pulsar
@safe yacht Okay that's definitely not true since my trackers got delivered from Ireland.
lyric dome
@celest heart hows the payout
safe yacht
Really? From what site? I've a friend that might be interested. He lives in Denmark and couldnt find any suppliers.
eager ledge
What do you need 3 trackers for? You mean like an extra base station, or 3 trackers on your body? (Hips and legs?)
lyric dome
@eager ledge hips and feet
eager ledge
Currently my room scale is really small so I can't move a lot. But I'm moving to a bigger appartment soon with 3 bedrooms where I will make one specific for my office with lots of space. So I might get full body tracking then.
tall monolith
So guys
safe yacht
Ah, for developers
tall monolith
Is Nuts here
safe yacht
Thanks, Gallium! Not that -I- can afford it but my friend might.
lyric dome
Im doing testing for garlicoin and found my setup mines as well as a 1070 woth an overclock
unkempt berry
Its funny to me that on every VR Chat group discord i am on people are just going on about how vrchat is a exploiter paradise atm and we should not get on but not even a mention of it here
rough pulsar
And on the note of garlic, I'm off for dinner.
unkempt berry
lean mortar
Hi
lyric dome
@celest heart whats your hashrate
lyric dome
Oh. It switches coins?
Dang. Garlicoin uses scrypt-n algo11
1070s are at like 130-150kh/s
My combined is about 155kh/s
flint gust
theres a coin for garlic? >_>
lyric dome
Yes
Launches jan 21st
Were doing testing currently. The reddit sub has more subs thsn doge coin lmao
flint gust
any reason for this lol
zinc sable
Wait wtf
lyric dome
For dat sweet garlic
zinc sable
Doge coin is actual cryptocurrency?
zinc sable
LOL I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A FUCKING JOKE LMAO
lyric dome
I think it hit a 2bill market cap
Or was it 1bill
A guy in the uk owns a bakery and is legit going to accept grlc for bread
zinc sable
I dunno how to generate bitcoin. But i would love to do so and get monies.
lyric dome
@zinc sable honestly doge is the kind of crap where if ypuve been mining it as a jokefrom the start andhave crap tons it hasvalue
umbral reef
Im pretty sur eif you just mine bitcoin and no not an other curency you would lose money in the end
lyric dome
My phone is lagging like a tard and keeps missing my spaces cause im typing too fast lol
zinc sable
Hmmm. Interesting.
lyric dome
Anyways i needa drive home ffor now