#vrchat-general-2

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timid vine
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Test do you know if it would be okay doing what i said or no

open crescent
timid vine
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I have

open crescent
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there was a "shameless self-promotion" channel, but it seems they deleted it

timid vine
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Yeah lmao i remeber that

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Remember

boreal surge
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Thnks. I thougth that wouldn't be allow because of the rules. But I wasn't sure if things 100% related to VR would also not be allowed. I sold a avi as a commission a while back for $324 and the customer said that my offer was the cheapest, so I wanted to check if was charging to little for my work or not.

timid vine
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I was only asking abt it bc its avi showcase so i was hoping theyd let you get away with it there lol

open crescent
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best bet is ask a mod but there's a discord specifically for that

timid vine
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Ik i was just waiting to see one tbh i dont wanna ping them

rich elk
open crescent
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so that's fine

rich elk
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Lel ye

timid vine
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Oh wait i didnt get you was saying theres a whole different discord

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Brb ig lmao

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Um how far up

open crescent
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vrctraders

timid vine
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Okay thank you

boreal surge
misty night
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Yo who here knows how to make an avatar? If so can you teach me?

vivid elbow
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Can’t you just tell me what to do?

open crescent
vivid elbow
vivid elbow
sharp saddle
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Wait.

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What is it you're wanting...?

open crescent
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Webcam tracking

vivid elbow
old stump
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force of habits

open crescent
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my suggestion: don't do webcam tracking

barren horizon
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Does anyone know if the video players broke again? They seemed to work yesterday and now they don’t load anything??

open crescent
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don't believe this guy he seems to have no idea

stray sapphire
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Hello

still pendant
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Does anyone wanna chill and play vr?

vivid elbow
open crescent
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it's not very good

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and uses your cpu so if you have a shit computer it's gonna hurt your performance even more

open crescent
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whytf are you replying to a 4 year old comment

neat falcon
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they probably just left web signed in

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they are away on it anyways

open crescent
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I mean you're free to try it

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I'm not your mom

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but a kinect is probably better for tracking at that price point

open crescent
exotic birch
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How the freakness do u even friend ppl😭

hollow ingot
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Just keep swimming~♪

rancid jewel
exotic birch
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Thank u oml

lavish girder
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Anyone wanna chill in vrc?

timid rock
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I am kinda new to VR Chat still learning, kinda lonely without knowing anyone. What are some good worlds to go to?

tribal gust
upbeat parrot
ember tundra
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Very clever naming

unreal verge
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I would avoid black cat publics at all costs lol

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Publics are dogshit there

timid rock
vocal shard
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so ripping hey

fresh garnet
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I'm gay.

rancid jewel
ember tundra
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Ruby is fart

vocal shard
hollow raptor
fresh garnet
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Shid and fart

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Gen-2 bunker prevails once again.

hollow raptor
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Yes it does

neat falcon
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ripping

fresh garnet
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@rocky night

hollow raptor
fresh garnet
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MF DOOM

neat falcon
hollow raptor
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Yeet Yeet

neat falcon
fresh garnet
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I'm going to

light acorn
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How's yall day/night going?

rancid jewel
fresh garnet
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Gen 1.5 rip in pizza

rocky night
fresh garnet
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Hi, Spiro. Welcome to the bunker.

rancid jewel
fresh garnet
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🤮

fresh garnet
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I dunno man, I just live here.

broken plover
rancid jewel
zinc socket
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Sub Cloud Birb

light acorn
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Hi

rancid jewel
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hello!

zinc socket
# light acorn Hi

Say, It's mainly the delivery I'm worried about. I'm used to buying games on steam, and that's gone fine, but how do you go about it with hardware?

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First time as you can probably tell

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Yo?

light acorn
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. Its basically the same as buying something from amazon.

zinc socket
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Ok. So any other "online" experience basically

light acorn
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yes

zinc socket
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You make sure you got your adress in order, and it's done

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Delivered within a few days?

karmic rose
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That's how ordering things online tends to work yeah

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Steam support is pretty solid. Dw

zinc socket
# light acorn yes

Say, how about I add you as a friend so I could give you a update when I chose do something?

light acorn
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sure, I have no issue with that

zinc socket
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Super

zinc socket
hollow raptor
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@sharp rose Looks like you’re having fun

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Gonna be a fun next week or so of people popping in about all that. At this point I’d just put ā€œripperā€ and ā€œrippingā€ on a blacklist for a week lmao.

sharp rose
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Eh, dealt with worse. People were a LOT meaner to me during EAC last year.

hollow raptor
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I feel that

sharp rose
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And even that was mostly annoying, rather than harmful. :p

hollow raptor
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I remember how toxic everyone was being about it

sharp rose
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Yea they were. But I get what they were upset about, justifiably so, even if the message itself was poorly designed.

hollow raptor
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I get that

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Huh?

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Apparently I said something that wasn’t allowed ._.

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Gist of what I said was essentially there wasn’t a way to tell what mods were malicious and what ones weren’t, so a blanket removal was the best option, and some of the good mods have been added as part of VRC and stuff that’s being worked on.

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But people couldn’t understand that

neat falcon
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the main issue everyone had was that everything they used to make the game better was stripped away from them and replaced with "maybe it will get added later :D"

hollow raptor
neat falcon
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some of the good ones were added

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however a lot of the anti crash either hasnt been added, or they just blanket it under "security fixes" as to not draw attention to it and so no one knows

hollow raptor
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Just use your safety settings wisely

sharp rose
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Caps is right that we rarely detail specifics in security updates, since that's usually more useful as an advertisement to bad actors than it is to inform good ones ratlurk

frozen bridge
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People were salty about EAC and now they're salty about EAC not stopping the rippers..

VR Chat avatars are so personal though. I can definitely see this growing into an even bigger swarm of angry bees.

neat falcon
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eac was never meant to stop rippers

frozen bridge
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No, but that's the kind of security the average user cares about

sharp rose
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Largely owing to EAC stopping a much larger and more pervasive problem, making ripping the new Big Issue. šŸ˜„

People being mad about it, makes sense. No one likes getting stolen from, especially so brazenly. We are too, frankly. But this kind of thing takes some finesse and time. dead

meager solstice
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People do not realize that ripping is an industry wide thing and not a ā€œvrc only thingā€

sharp rose
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It's just much more obvious in a UGC-centric community, since that makes up the bulk of what people experience.

meager solstice
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If a trillion dollar company can’t stop it…. Why do people think vrc can stop it

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Also true Sach

lofty folio
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Server encryption for one

meager solstice
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That does not stop ripping

frozen bridge
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Yeah, but here the users are the ones getting stolen from, so naturally they can more easily relate and get upset about it..

meager solstice
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Just sayin

frozen bridge
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No, they don't, which is ironic

meager solstice
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Very ironic

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Or the movies that r shown on vrc….

frozen bridge
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It's like a person getting mugged vs a bank getting robbed.

quick egret
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I guess i should be glad I don’t go into publics often

meager solstice
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Publics r the best

quick egret
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They can be very hit or miss

meager solstice
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Literally vrc would be boring without public instances

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I would choose the worst public instance over a private instance

quick egret
lofty folio
hollow raptor
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I’m telling you right now, 90% of the avatars that have been uploaded to RS is never used.

The people who actually use that site are more than likely looking for malicious avatars to reupload to their 30th ban-evading account than your random egirl/eboy/furry avatar.

meager solstice
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The artist I bought the avatar from has been paid already… such a bad take

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Weird copium

kind jackal
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where are the crash logs located?

karmic rose
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Logs are typically in forested areas as they're from trees and trees hang out in forested areas.

sturdy ermine
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It's so amusing how worked up people get over it.

Like my avi so much? Oh ripped? Dang public now. Cause I can wear it more without issue.

hollow raptor
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I mean my main avatar has my username tattooed on the texture

quick egret
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Same

lofty folio
sturdy ermine
meager solstice
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I’ve been using the same base model since 2018. Could care less if it’s ripped

sturdy ermine
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Not me still getting in vr to have date night in a movie world OH WAIT? COPYRIGHTED MOVIES? GASP

lofty folio
# meager solstice It baffles me

You're not the one actually making the avatar assets though, I mean why pay $30 for an avatar someone spent a month making for people to buy when they could just steal it instead?
Hell, why would anyone bother making a living by creating game assets at all if they aren't going to make any money off it?

sturdy ermine
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That's been such a long running thing cause so many people left their high paying jobs to do things such as that.

and 99% of the people who quit to become full time artists for ANY Platform complain a month later on homelessness, no food, no bill money, etc

lofty folio
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When no one makes the cool avatars and assets, no one gets to use the cool avatars and assets

sturdy ermine
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Oop I tried saying something deep about scripts-

But yea 95% of vrc worlds are embedded rip stuff. Music, movies, avi's etc

lofty folio
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I think i'm just a bit stirred up about all this, there at least seems to be a large amount of people who do support avatar creators enough still pay for the assets they want.

sturdy ermine
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Yea, the furry community is HUGE About that for Vr Chat we all support our creators big time

jovial echo
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is this the channel for discussing the space

sturdy ermine
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It's basically a less crowded version of general 1

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More calm civil people speak here vrcShh

hard burrow
sturdy ermine
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The same slowmode is in gen 1

ruby needle
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I mean, the 5 sec slowmode is purely a spam bot measure

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Or some really spammy people

hard burrow
sturdy ermine
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I feel like people just forget this is here

ruby needle
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People already barely use it cirBox

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It's more an overflow channel

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if G1 is busy but people want to have another conversation

hard burrow
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Fair

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Now where’s the gen-2 dwellers VRC Group?

tribal gust
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avatars are hard work and non avatar creators dont understand how much labor is put into it

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i make sure i paid whomever i comissioned enough money, especially if they're in america and not outsourced to pakistan or whatever

jade lotus
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I only use personal avatars now. It's a labor of love for me.

tribal gust
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i haven't messed with vrc sdk since it upgraded to 3.0, never bothered to learn, too confusing/not for me

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how so?

i had no background with Unity or Blender until i discovered VRChat

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i'll have to revisit it another time, never really messed with VCC

hoary bramble
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what is keeping VRC from encrypting avatar IDs?

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I'm less informed on how their system works but last I heard they didn't encrypt those or really anything related to avatars server side

sharp saddle
hoary bramble
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a lot of the avatars that were just recently ripped from my friends and me were ripped without us even being online

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at that point it has to be a server-side issue that could be fixed right?

sharp saddle
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Ya can't stop ripping.

hoary bramble
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you can make it harder, at least hard to the point where people are discouraged from running events around ripping avis

sharp saddle
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They can make it 10x harder but once it's cracked, it's pretty much useless.

hoary bramble
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it's still better in my opinion than laying down and taking it

sharp saddle
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If it's a 100% custom-made model that's been reuploaded, you can issue a DMCA against them to get it taken down. But that's the extent.

hoary bramble
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what's stopping VRchat anyways from at least adding server-side encryption? they definitely have the money, time, and resources now

sharp saddle
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Because it won't do a thing.

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Not to mention they'll need to add a decrypter to actually see the avatar...

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Pleeeeeease use the search function for every suggestion you're making and notice how many times it's been brought up.

hoary bramble
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idk im pretty annoyed/heated over this, sorry for my rambling.

sharp saddle
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That's understandable. But know this exact convo has been discussed to death already.

viscid root
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gaming.

sharp saddle
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Agreed.

graceful pewter
frozen bridge
graceful pewter
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people can automate tooling to make that 10 times as harder method child's play and can't really stop anything as far as external file sharing as far as the Avatar bases themselves

frozen bridge
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I guess we'll just need multiple accounts to keep all our avatars from being ripped at once.

karmic rose
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Lmao

hollow sluice
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they could definitely be doing a lot more, yes you cant stop ripping fully, but making it harder means less people have the patience to do it, Its less accesible

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people who rip avatars are not the kind of people to put effort into doing something, so most of them will just give up.

vocal shard
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Why is anyone debating over something I don't think anyone here is actually qualified on. It would be different if your proposed idea wasn't completely based around code, but like

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Make a new idea. It's so boring to hear the same ones all the time

hollow sluice
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Just because a solution is boring doesnt mean its bad

graceful pewter
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there's no way for VR chat to tackle folks just pirating fbx files around @hollow sluice

hollow sluice
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A lot of these "boring" solutions are good, but not implemented yet

vocal shard
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And that's not even to say code can't do it

hollow sluice
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I literally didnt even propose anything yet...

vocal shard
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But you just propose that the people who code will arbitrarily somehow magically make the code

hollow sluice
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I am just saying they could be doing more than they already are

vocal shard
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You don't have any real idea here.

graceful pewter
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like Studios with way more money and much more invasive DRM have not been able to prevent the issue

vocal shard
graceful pewter
hollow sluice
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I do have my own ideas. The question is if its financially viable for them to spend time developing these solutions instead of ignoring them

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That I can not answer or debate obviously

vocal shard
hollow sluice
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Its going to get bypassed, especially by big groups like these, but I think its worth doing at least something

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Though I think most creators in VRC are way too overprotective of their models

graceful pewter
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like most of the avatars people upload to VR chat already exists as fbx files somewhere so even if we invented Magic no ripping DRM folks would just go trading around those Unity packages instead of the uploaded VR chat IDs

vocal shard
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Yeah so I think they figured something out that is above that framework

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I would imagine if they are now bothering to make any announcement

graceful pewter
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I'm not quite sure what the point to making a announcement in the announcement channel for we know this is bothering you all but we can't tell you anything about our Solutions

hollow sluice
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You look at a game like Second life, Theres people who rip in that game but the community is Tiny relative to their playerbase compared to VRC.
Everything in second life is proprietary so thats not exactly a feasable solution, but my point is that there can be a significant reduction of asset ripping done for vrc, its not magic code. Its real solutions.

graceful pewter
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second life has about the same concurrent user account numbers as vrchat

hollow sluice
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Yet the only practical way to rip things in that game is a client that is stupidly unstable, gets you banned if you rip rampantly and cant rip half the content in the game. And they have a total of 1 developer whos bothering to keep it somewhat functional lol

graceful pewter
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Linden Labs has more than one programmer

hollow sluice
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... not relevant?

ruby needle
hollow sluice
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Dont quote me on this but I think SL is stil la bit higher than VRC when it comes to playercount

neat falcon
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on average yes

hollow sluice
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though you cant really tell how much of that is bots

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and SL has a LOT of bots

graceful pewter
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and in general the second life Client List how many people are currently online

rapid pulsar
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does anyone have issues where vrchat will open and as soon as you load in it closes the application?

ruby needle
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sounds like a self crasher

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reset your avatar on the website

rapid pulsar
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it wont let me login for some reason

ruby needle
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what type of account do you have?

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You can not login with steam or oculus on the website

rapid pulsar
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ummm a steam account i believe

ruby needle
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Yeah, that doesn#t work since it's just a guest type of account

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Try holding the ESC key while loading into the world

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until you spawned in with a error avatar

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You also want to consider turning your account into a full VRChat account

rapid pulsar
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ok i will but like not even a second in the world it crashes

rapid pulsar
ruby needle
rapid pulsar
ruby needle
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Do the ESC thing

smoky fog
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And that was removed because?

ruby needle
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@smoky fog please don't fall victim to the marketing strategy.

rapid pulsar
# ruby needle Do the ESC thing

ITSSSSSS FIXEEEDDDDD thank you so much ima go change my account just to be safe also can you post that to my post in the user support it'll help out others

smoky fog
ruby needle
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  1. We have implemented and continue to implement changes and improvements to make ripping harder and more painful for those who rip your content. It will never be 100% solved, but we can make it much more difficult.

It's an eternal cat and mouse game.

graceful pewter
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like no AAA game Studio even with their unlimited budget has made a rip proof game

umbral reef
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Also where are all these people coming from today
Haven't seen people complain for months about it and now student suddenly heaps

graceful pewter
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and everybody spreading it on Twitter basically advertising it so potentially being counterproductive

umbral reef
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That would explain it

smoky fog
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Vrc needs to go after the site itself, and get it taken down... They have the legal authority to do so.... Why not do it

graceful pewter
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what's stopping them from just setting up another website after the first one gets shut down?

graceful pewter
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like all of the content uploaded the copyright would be owned by the individual Avatar makers not vrchat?

umbral reef
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Vrc does not own the content that's uploaded on there platform
All they have rights to is storing and displaying it.

Any other side having the same content means nothing by law for vrc

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Avatar makers can g after the website. But if they comply with a takedown notice, not much else you can do after that (without wasting a lot of money). And even beside that, setting up a new website and host isn't hard for them

ruby needle
scarlet hornet
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ok so what is that about?

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Yall mean the one that people keep posting about the preemium thing?

smoky fog
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Mhm

scarlet hornet
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So I don't understand, I need an understaning as to why this is bad

graceful pewter
open crescent
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I wonder if vrchat would have a legal case on a different basis, kinda like how other big companies have gone (and won) against sites selling mods

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to other games

scarlet hornet
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Does it work in the same way that you can do that with Roblox? I know they state that if you upload a game to Roblox, it's legally theres or something like that

graceful pewter
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vrchat does not own the copyright on any of the avatars uploaded

scarlet hornet
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So then technically the only people who would be able to sue would be the people that own it.

open crescent
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correct, that's why I wonder if a different approach would work like the modders who have gotten sued by rockstar etc

scarlet hornet
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hmm

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People will go to the extreme to allow you to do stupid shit

ruby needle
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Hacktools are very specific

open crescent
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the rs stuff seems to fall into the same category

ruby needle
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You sell specific utilities that interact with and modify the code of the game and company

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Which is stuff that directly concerns the company and their code.

open crescent
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exactly

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that's what I'm trying to say

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that's what RS is doing too

umbral reef
open crescent
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which is what I see as analogue to the cheats

umbral reef
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Even then, sueing someone unknown in another country is stupidly expensive and often doesn't even work

storm geyser
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anyone wanna watch a movie tonight?

karmic rose
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Sorry, I'm busy watching a movie.

ember tundra
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I’m busy watching a movie about Mercā€˜s movie

karmic rose
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b...busting? MercBlush

neat falcon
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bustin

ember tundra
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Shhh I’m spelling weird today

sweet crow
storm geyser
sweet crow
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Nice you mid movie rn!

storm geyser
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gonna get a stroke from reading that

sweet crow
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My bad ment to put a question mark. Are you guys in the middle of the movie?

storm geyser
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nah I went to eat first

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while I got a response

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I'll probably just watch it another day tbh

sweet crow
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K anyoke else playing vrchat rn? And wanna play?

vocal shard
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Can a new account clone avatars? I'm trying to clone an avatar from my first account, I have the setting enabled to clone but for some reason the Clone Avatar option is disabled on my new account

umbral reef
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Need a higher trust rank to clone nom avatar worlds avatars I think

vocal shard
umbral reef
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Odds are those where avatars in public worlds

open crescent
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are you sure? I think cloning is possible always, but you might be trying to clone an avatar from someone that has cloning disabled

fresh tiger
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Gormundr?

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I thought that guy was a racist neo nazi years ago, why is he in the community lol

open crescent
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why did you think that

simple nimbus
fresh tiger
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He was the ringleader of this back in 2018

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That's him front and center

open crescent
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I don't understand what the hell is going on there

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def seems kinda cringe tho

rigid locust
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can i edit my group information (name, description, identifier), after the group was created ?

grave cosmos
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I kinda wish there was an option to change the loading screen back into the 2017 one I miss that loading screen sometimes

whole fjord
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Either or I agree for nostalgic reasons

radiant lichen
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They're in among us

whole fjord
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^ this is true

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Or sometimes prison escape

unreal verge
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group public instance but group doesnt exist, how is that possible lol

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First is API error message if you try to view instances, second ingame picture what happens if you try to view the group related to the group public instance

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someone broke groups

karmic rose
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Oof

fresh tiger
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Groomer alert

sharp saddle
true sky
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Time to get the wood chipper out

neat falcon
chrome trout
neat falcon
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tizzy where were u adventuring

tired bolt
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that aint the face you made ._.

chrome trout
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Looking at the skybox I was probably at the Trans Academy!

forest hawk
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WTF VRChat Mobile.. "Sorry, the requested URL could not be found on this server." XD

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Amazing their download link

neat falcon
uneven swift
still pollen
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no IOS?

maiden shuttle
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i cant even log in, it keeps saying "invalid username/password" and i log in on a dayly on pc, so i know that's a lie xD

ruby needle
fresh garnet
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Not compatible 😭

spring sand
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hey do you guys know of any worlds that might be cool for a new person on vrchat? a friend of mine wants to try vr but I am not really sure what new people like to do on vrchat since Its been like several years since I was new

novel stump
vocal shard
novel stump
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yea toxic people

slow halo
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And then get called a slur by a 12 year old

novel stump
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ā˜ļø

spring sand
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ehh

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she wants to do somethign where we dont have to talk with a million strangers or games that arent too confusing

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We tried Murder and Prison Escape before but it wasnt fun for her

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She also doesnt enjoy much just sitting around and looking at mirrors

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I was maybe thinking more adventure type maps

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:wonder: something where youd explore the ocean or something like that

pure hemlock
ruby needle
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You do realise that this changes exactly nothing?

spring sand
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wait whats going on with public worlds?

quartz bane
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So why are YouTube links not working anymore? I thought a recent update fixed them?

spring sand
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Ive been out of the loop

slow halo
spring sand
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oh Ill just block them

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im used to blocking a million people on vrchat I am a woman on vrchat its crazy

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not just kids but pervs too

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it would be nice to have x rank required to see or enter other worlds but I also see the issue of people being so gatekept that no new players can meet new people

pure hemlock
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I mean if they don't implement this change I am just going to start banning Mobile users and Visitors on sight regardless from my publics šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I already moderate a public world and 99% of visitors are trolls and young children.

marble lark
verbal fractal
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Would anyone like to chat with me and be friends on vr

pure hemlock
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How old are you?

verbal fractal
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I'm 33

slow halo
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Heey a fellow old. Hi! Want to talk about how depressing things are?

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I'm 34

verbal fractal
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@slow halo in vc or dm

vocal shard
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need help w something rq dm me, I’ll pay

slow halo
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I'd join you on vrchat but I've got a migraine that's been going for three goddamn days right now. Driving me crazy

pure hemlock
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I'm 32. If anyone other oldies wanna add me I am up for meeting some new people.

spring sand
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im only 21

verbal fractal
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I've been trying to chat with adults

spring sand
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im still baby

slow halo
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I'll hit you all up later for friend invites. When my eyes go back to normal and my head stops pounding

verbal fractal
#

If anyone 18+ adult want to add me u can

slow halo
#

I'm Llen Coram in vrc too

granite siren
#

im stuck infinitely on the loading screen on vrc, i updated the game, validated my files, and even reinstalled vrc
is it the activity of all those people trying to rip avatars right now?

spring sand
#

oh theres people ripping avatars right now?

pure hemlock
#

There is always people ripping avatars. But I guess the popular ripping site is holding a give-a-way contest for who can rip the most. Doubt it'd affect servers though.

spring sand
#

oh thats a bit worrisome

#

Usually all the avatars I use I either made them myself or I purchased them from a creator

pure hemlock
#

If you go to public worlds or events they've probably already all been ripped

#

Nothing you can do about it really outside of not wearing your avatar

spring sand
#

I usually wear public avatars when I go to public worlds

#

Ive been using this really cute public model with cat wiskers

#

I am not sure how avatar rippers work

#

so idk if I am at risk by just being in the world or not even if I am not using the model

placid kettle
#

My wife had all her models ripped. Even all her private models some of which she hasn't worn in years. So it doesn't really matter. Honestly you might not even need to be online for them to do it.

spring sand
#

huh that sucks

#

I feel like the only way to make people stop ripping models is to straight up sue one of them into oblivion and make it an example

placid kettle
#

There would have to be a large number of them consistently getting sued. People like that always think they'll never get caught.

slow halo
spring sand
#

im not worried the ones I purchased get ripped because theyre sold by the creator theyre not commissions

#

Like windowshopping deal

#

thats for them to be worried about and It is a problem

#

I am mostly worried about my models being ripped which goes the same for the creators I bought the models for

#

its not like theyre good or anything because I made those models while I was learning blender and unity as a hobby when I was a teenager

#

but they hold sentimental value idk

slow halo
#

Yeah

spring sand
#

sometimes I wonder what makes a person just ruin other peoples days

pure hemlock
#

I believe they need the avatar ID to rip it. Which they can get by you wearing the avatar or if it's set to public.

spring sand
#

ohhh okay

slow halo
#

That's what I figured. I mean, they don't have magic or anything, right? Though honestly with the sheer amount of kids we're likely to get going forward, I'm unlikely to join any public worlds ever again

spring sand
#

im really not a fan of kids

#

kids are frustrating and they tend to ruin all the fun with their way of having fun

rose valley
#

Kids act the way they do because parents use Vrchat as a babysitter

spring sand
#

Ive been saying this for a long time but I wish there was a Verification you could Purchase on VRChat to verify ur an adult and then it shows you worlds that only people who verified can see

slow halo
#

I'd pay for that

spring sand
#

me too

rose valley
slow halo
#

I don't hate kids, I just don't want to waste my precious game time talking to people with whom I have nothing in common

spring sand
#

kids are gonna be talking about fortnite or something and im gonna be like "erm"

slow halo
#

Like you're having trouble in highschool? That sucks dude, I hope things get better. But I want to talk about my adult hobbies

#

Like how work sucked this week but the weekend is looking nice so my wife and I are going to spend the weekend on my boat, but also I have to deal with my in-laws. Or something like that

spring sand
#

man the difference between 5-14-17-21-29-38 age is crazy

placid kettle
#

I wonder about maybe having some hidden interest tags you can set and when you join a world, it will try to put you in instances that have users with shared interest tags.

slow halo
#

Sometimes I feel like I'm way too childish for my age, and I'm not that different from how I was in highschool, but then I interact with a 16 year old and yeah nope I'm ancient

#

That would be cool

placid kettle
#

That could also work as a sort of soft filter for age as well if you make one of the tags your age.

spring sand
#

I just want a way to filter kids using a verification payment method

#

but honestly that wouldnt completely filter kids because parents would purchase that for their kids and verify for them

placid kettle
#

Yeah, a lot of parents these days are lazy and just don't want to be parents. They'll do a lot just to keep their kids off their backs.

slow halo
#

Yeah. People been lying about their age online since the dawn of time the internet. I definitely used to

spring sand
#

I used to lie and say I was 30

#

when I was like 14

slow halo
#

Same

spring sand
#

then I hit 16 and I was like "!? this is the best age to be alive why lie"

slow halo
#

Now scrolling to my actual year of birth takes just a little bit longer every year

spring sand
#

I just have to scroll down to 2002

#

which in some apps actually takes some time

#

cuz the scroll is so heavy and short

slow halo
#

Scroll past the 2010s. Then the 2000s. Then the 1990s. 1989 here we go!

#

I do like saying "I was born in the late 1900s" though. Good for a laugh

spring sand
#

my sister is 33 and I call her old

#

ahh embeds are disabled

slow halo
#

Lol

spring sand
#

yeah I am 21 so im at the prime age I see things I love and im like omg I love them I wanna be like them

#

VTubers in this case

placid kettle
vocal shard
#

It makes me wonder what framework would be better for a user indexing through hundreds of thousands of worlds

#

Definitely not an easy task but logically something must be better

vocal shard
#

I think it's funny that I have VRChat installed on my PC but haven't actually really played the game yet.

#

Been slowly saving up on money so I can do stuff related to VRC though cause I do want to try it out.

#

...oops I thought it was the other channel

distant ravine
#

1st mistake

#

Thinking VRChat is a game

#

It's not. It's more like an oppressive social platform

vocal shard
#

Hm

distant ravine
#

Like, why did they remove quest audio? It had no performance impact

ruby needle
#

They didn't remove it, they never added it

#

Plus, yes it does impact.

distant ravine
#

Not for me

#

I used it a shit ton

ruby needle
#

"Works on my system" is really not the way to go. cirBox

open crescent
distant ravine
#

Never said I was the one making it

#

I'm just saying, during the time of which we could, I had a lot of avatars that played songs I liked

open crescent
#

You need to understand, it was and is forbidden because it does affect performance. And the quest is a piece of shit hardware -wise.
When a more powerful quest exists, it might be allowed

distant ravine
#

I don't see how audio affects performance? I assume it's the increased file size?

open crescent
distant ravine
#

Which is kinda ironic that there are games on quest that are far larger and run many times better

timid zealot
#

Yeah...

#

But then again

distant ravine
#

I see this as an error on VRChats part

timid zealot
#

Say you have a lobby such as "The Black Cat"

#

It's gonna be full of Very Poor avis

distant ravine
#

Then don't show them.

#

Seeing how many people are there

#

I mean, I thought that was obvious

#

Also

#

The threshold for Very Poor is stupid

#

Like, you have 1 particle system, and it's instantly ranked very poor

open crescent
open crescent
#

Not saying vrchat is perfect by any means, but when all the content is uploaded by the users, you run into performance problems very easily

#

And the quest already crashes constantly because of that

#

Anything else, like audio, just contributes to more crashes

indigo wind
#

does frame drops for like 20 seconds count then it says ā€œno memory left so you went back to homeā€ count

#

šŸ˜„

tacit plank
#

Blaming VRC for lagging avatars is like blaming car manufacturers when people drink and drive

indigo wind
#

blaming vrchat when my game lags when I have a good performance avatar in a good performance world with no one else in it

#

šŸ˜€

#

šŸ™‚

tacit plank
#

Then your computer likely sucks, or maybe you don't know what assets makes a world perform well

indigo wind
#

I always use bad performing avatars though

#

that scenario isn’t likely

tacit plank
#

Unity needs a minimum amount of resources to work, but it's not like VRC are allowed to modify Unity.
And even avatars rated "good" might be terrible, like if you have too many animation layers, heavy shaders, or if you do weird things with shapekeys

kind jackal
#

Is the VRCLens worth getting?

kindred nymph
#

When a world u made gets a report, can I see what the report was for? I'd like to fix the issue

vocal shard
open crescent
#

I think a lot of the stuff vrclens did is now included in the normal camera

open crescent
#

an add-on for the camera

vocal shard
#

oop

#

what does it do? :0

open crescent
#

I suggest you read it directly from it's store page

karmic rose
#

Imo vrclens still is useful. It offers a desktop mode camera that is a very nice way to do advanced photography in VRC

#

Also using the radial menu for specific things like focus and aperture is much easier than faffing about with the camera touchscreen

#

I can basically leave the camera in one hand, and have my radial menu open for focus in my other hand and lock the camera at 80mm or 110mm and lock the aperture at F1.2 then only adjust the focus with my other hand. Much quicker shooting

kind jackal
#

But for recording its not worth it?
seen a streamer using it

hexed shuttle
distant ravine
#

I know

#

Tbh, idc about good/excellent

#

Poor+ is fine

hexed shuttle
#

VRC performs just fine with optimised worlds and avatars, its the fact that you can run into people with avatars with like 200,000 polygons

ruby needle
distant ravine
#

With the plus

#

Don't try to correct my preferences

ruby needle
#

You can have your preference but people can also criticise it.

#

If you don't want that... don't say that.

distant ravine
#

Poor+ implies Poor, Medium, Good and Excellent

ruby needle
#

Err

#

That's fair yes

#

But for Poor+ i'd understand Poor and Verypoor

hexed shuttle
#

wouldnt that be -

ruby needle
#

Poor or Better is probably the clearer one.

distant ravine
#

Yeah

hexed shuttle
#

you go up from poor to excellent

distant ravine
#

Glyphid Oppressor! And what do we say to oppression, lads?

ruby needle
# hexed shuttle wouldnt that be -

Well... depends on how you view it.

In the ranking excellent is the first, good the 2nd medium the 3rd, poor the 4th and very poor the 5th.
So + would imo be poor and very poor.

distant ravine
#

No

ruby needle
#

But i think the more ideal way is to just say Poor or better.

#

Cus that's not misunderstandable

hexed shuttle
#

honestly the best way is to have a proper avatar performance metric :)

#

vrc's one is... okay at best, out of touch with player expectations at worst

distant ravine
#

And be reviewed by humans, not a fucking algorithm

ruby needle
hexed shuttle
#

well yeah, but the performance ranks are also like, pretty simple in how they catagorise performance

#

ideally performance should be like, a runtime thing thats calcualted by the client, unity definetely has ways to sandbox each player so you can see how much resources each person's taking

#

if some apparantly cant say a-hole is using up like 5ms of your render time, or 20% of your vram allocation then that's a lot more valuable than "very poor" which could literally be a 4000 polygon avatar with 20 physbones

#

or a 400,000 polygon avatar with 30 materials, 20 physbones and 300 animations

open crescent
hexed shuttle
#

yeah, but without proper tools and feedback its hard to know if an avatar is

open crescent
#

just get up close, look at them, look at your fps, and then look away and check your fps

hexed shuttle
#

thats not really how that works in unity

open crescent
#

it is exactly how it works what'cha mean

hexed shuttle
#

especially not when you're trusting world authors to do proper culling

open crescent
#

I'm talking about avatars not worlds

hexed shuttle
#

its besides the point anyway, its not about individiual avatars

#

its the whole ranking system that's broken

#

the fact that so many people in publci lobbies are very poor is a fault of the system

#

the game doesn't do a good enough job to maintain performance ranks and they're so arbitrary that there's no real incentive to do it

open crescent
#

could be better, but being able to block avatars by particle numbers, physics bone numbers, and filesize etc, does help a lot

hexed shuttle
#

honestly, ive been wanting something like that

open crescent
#

that's already a thing

hexed shuttle
#

let me set a texture limit or a polygon limit or a mesh limit

hexed shuttle
meager solstice
hexed shuttle
#

im not complaining

vocal shard
#

How are they going to see

meager solstice
#

But the system is fine and can be achieved however most of the community could care less of the performance of their model

vocal shard
#

I'd rather complain about unoriginal content

meager solstice
#

95% of vrc

vocal shard
#

That's actually sad idc if the perf was bad but the avatar was good

#

But it's just bad and bad yk

robust thunder
vocal shard
#

I do many things

robust thunder
#

😮 guess my name

vocal shard
#

No

robust thunder
#

fair

distant ravine
robust thunder
#

NO WAY

#

reported for doxing

ember tundra
#

Actually…. It’s… SpongeBoingus MeowAll the 1st…

radiant lichen
robust thunder
#

no thats wrong, and kinda offensive, if im a cat it doesnt mean i meow

radiant lichen
#

Did you just say offensive

robust thunder
#

yes

radiant lichen
#

Alright buddy I heard enough

robust thunder
#

iyonz

ember tundra
radiant lichen
#

"Guess my name"
I guess
"That's offensive"
Bro what

robust thunder
#

well....its meowall the 2nd, the 1st was my grampa :>

radiant lichen
#

This is why I bully people

ember tundra
#

Woah

#

I almost knew!!!

cursive barn
silver lance
#

anyone know where to find avatars with screenspace effects

hardy perch
crystal epoch
#

#bait

silver lance
hardy perch
silver lance
hardy perch
#

rude

silver lance
hardy perch
#

no i'm not

silver lance
#

why would you need my username

hardy perch
#

ok i'm gonna come clean

#

now I'm nervous

#

never mind.

silver lance
#

spit it out

#

cmon

karmic rose
silver lance
torpid pewter
#

šŸ¤”

vocal shard
#

hello šŸ™‚

shell marsh
#

Love the pfp

wind lintel
subtle axle
#

Can you guys help me

#

I have an android tablet version 10 can I get vrchat or is that no possible??

wind lintel
wind lintel
#

so if you know how you can add them to like your private avis

vast oak
#

does anyone know where thumbnail pictures get saved on the pc? which folder

short summit
daring granite
#

Does anyone know how to get into quest only lobbys, I've been crashed by butthurt PC players probably 10-20 times this week alone

hardy perch
#

look for worlds that are only quest compatible

daring granite
hardy perch
#

it definitely is as underpowered as I think

#

I'll grant you that there are malicious people that make avatars specifically to crash people, and they're garbage, but the quest 2 is hilariously underpowered

#

the entirety of VRC gets 4 gigs of RAM to run, which isn't a lot when you're trying to do what VRC does

graceful pewter
#

like your average PC running VR chat has like four times that amount to work with

open crescent
#

Not to mention the shit cpu

spring ibex
#

Hello

quaint tree
#

Hi

quaint tree
#

All I hear is bad but expensive and you want to make better even more money

vocal shard
#

Those people really need a reality check, for heaven sake

formal nimbus
#

fr

vocal shard
formal nimbus
#

i have been glitched 2 times

#

and i started playing 2 days ago

#

like bfr

vocal shard
#

That's why I hate those peeps

#

Not everyone can "get a better PC" like what they think they can. Oh, you want people to have PCs? Donate then

open crescent
#

in anything but games I guess, cause quest games look like shit most of the time

#

the game boy was a technological marvel in 1989, but by today's standards it's pretty weak

formal nimbus
#

anyone has tips for what i should get to get started in pcvr?
im interested in getting a valve + fbt but idk what to buy

open crescent
formal nimbus
#

i have a 10k budget from working

vocal shard
#

Sheesh

formal nimbus
#

hard werk

vocal shard
formal nimbus
#

alr writing that down

vocal shard
#

What does light house do?

#

Providing lights for tracking?

formal nimbus
#

i think it makes the tracking easier since theres light or sum

vocal shard
#

That's kind of odd, because wouldn't that be what Quest 2 uses for tracking?

karmic rose
formal nimbus
karmic rose
vocal shard
karmic rose
ember tundra
#

toof blood bugspit

vocal shard
#

I see

karmic rose
#

Quest can see IR since it's cameras don't have an IR filter like most cameras. But they don't use IR for tracking aside from position of the controllers which is why they don't have an IR filter. But headset position is not done using IR.

This does mean however you can play quest in the dark with an IR floodlight like you can get on Amazon for cheap.

Index can play in the dark regardless

formal nimbus
#

can anyone helpme šŸ˜”

vocal shard
#

That's what you meant

#

Mhm

open crescent
sharp saddle
#

I R Baboon.

wind lintel
karmic rose
near crane
#

Does anyone know of a avatar that might look like mine

#

Like my pfp

cold sierra
#

sad

#

no one wants to be my friend

#

coz im so boring

radiant lichen
#

Don't be boring then

latent jolt
#

Whomp whomp

brittle solstice
#

skill issue

meager solstice
cold sierra
bleak zodiac
ember tundra
bleak zodiac
ember tundra
bleak zodiac
kindred nymph
bleak zodiac
#

Shit

kindred nymph
bleak zodiac
#

People are shit

kindred nymph
#

Have you tried making them better

bleak zodiac
kindred nymph
#

Next time u meet a shirtless person I want you to try giving them a chance to better themselves and if they don't put a shirt on you have to cut them out of your circle sadly

hardy perch
#

grab the nipples and twist

vocal shard
cursive barn
brisk aspen
#

After you do that to someone go all GTA and say "Wasted"

crystal crag
#

Hola a todos, espero que estƩn bien.

shadow fog
#

il do anything for nitro

inland knot
shadow fog
inland knot
#

šŸ—£ļø

open crescent
broken plover
#

paypal me 29,999.99 USD and I'll gift you nitro

open crescent
warm merlin
little shuttle
#

Yo I need support.

open crescent
#

trusses are good for support

rough latch
#

Does anyone want to be friends? I am really lonely and open to hanging out with anyone ngl. I went through a horrible break up and don’t have a lot of people to support me. So if your willing to be friends, dm me or not yk not forcing anything.

uneven willow
#

anyone else here experiencing a longer boot up for vrchat?

sharp saddle
#

Goooooood afternoon.

still copper
kind jackal
#

Just wondering what are good apps for 3D scanning ?
I tried Polycam but i can't upload anything to blender or unity if i don't choose the paid plan

#

I will check that one out thank you

grave cosmos
#

Do y'all know any good vrchat pc only horror maps?

#

It seems most of the good ones got deleted

#

Besides the devouring that is

hard burrow
#

Yo, new Profile Picture for me!

echo sphinx
full loom
#

Anyone know why when I join this one specific world in VRC, it always says ā€œ Cannot join instance ā€œ although it’s perfectly fine for desktop?

vocal shard
#

howdy

lapis wing
#

looking for new friends add me! my username is AnimeBacon69

lethal hare
#

Looking for People to play horror games with, add my user:TheFallenOrigins.

vocal shard
#

heya

#

odd timing i just so happened to look here

#

was just about to ask for somone to hang with n just chill

serene frost
#

I want to play with somebody cuz I’m lonely

still copper
white idol
#

Hows it goin people

vocal shard
wraith plume
#

Hi

open crescent
#

with all due respect, I think you should talk to people who know this person instead of complete strangers on the internet.

#

(as you're more likely to get useful responses then)

wise blaze
#

Can someone help me find someone that can make me a custom avatar

#

Just like add a onsie A tuxedo

sharp saddle
mental shuttle
#

what to call my video where I show off this cool room in VRC? I dont often stuggle with this...

lilac ether
#

it is harder than i thought

sharp saddle
#

[name of world] - Exploration.

mental shuttle
#

no Im not exploring it

#

so hungry but wanna finish this... orz (too early to eat anyway)
need thumbnail too

tired bolt
#

Uh, without knowing the room and context kinda hard to pitch an idea

mental shuttle
#

haha. I can tell u

#

(or I can link the video)

#

it's The Cave, and it has a bunch of stuff in a room that I like. it's quite a big coincidence I think. Im showing them off in the video. filming with the camera in my hand.

tired bolt
#

My twin built my ideal mancave in VR (real) (not bait)

mental shuttle
#

haha

#

I want something more simple and sincere

#

maybe something like This room in VRChat blew my mind

tired bolt
#

Im sorry, the algorithm consumes all. You must conform.

mental shuttle
#

it actually did a bit

#

never EXSGT

tired bolt
#

Demonetized

broken plover
#

Demonetized DEMONETIZED

tired bolt
#

Close enough I'm tires

mental shuttle
#

haha. Im not monetized yet T.T

#

Catboy... coincidence... cant think of anything better

#

and what to put in the thumbnail?

#

coincidence is such a good word for this but too long to fit vertically

#

so annoying how you cant change the text in PS without selecting it, cause then you wont see the result while you're selecting the font

vocal shard
#

hello

loud schooner
vocal shard
#

how are you

meager solstice
#

I’m chillin hbu

vocal shard
#

if anyone wants to just chill in afew im free just ask to add me

dreamy dagger
#

Would anybody be up for playing Cards against VRC?

daring granite
#

Ah yes I love instantly bring crashed just because I use a quest, essentially hardware racism

sharp saddle
#

RIP.

daring granite
#

Oh and then before I quit the game someone says "pedophiles aren't that bad*

sharp saddle
#

Sounds like you're in a shitty world.

daring granite
#

Yea, EXEPT about every world I'm in has some loser with a crasher

#

What pisses me off is the devs are doing absolutely nothing to fix this

sharp saddle
#

šŸ‘€ What do you expect them to do?

daring granite
#

I don't know start doing the least amount of effort to get rid of them?

#

Maybe put a bit more care into the game?

sharp saddle
#

They aren't monitoring 24/7.

#

If you want them to "get rid of them", report them.

daring granite
#

How do I report it when I can't do shit because the crasher is crashing me šŸ’€

sharp saddle
#

Get their name?

daring granite
#

HOW

sharp saddle
#

Bruh.

daring granite
#

I'm being crashed

#

How the fuck do u expect me to get they're name when I literally just cant

sharp saddle
#

Surely you can get the name before you crash.

daring granite
#

No, you cant

#

Because I'm running at 1 frame per minute because of it

#

And guess what? I can't hide the avatar because if I do it still crashes

#

I literally can't do anything in this situation

sharp saddle
#

You can: go to a different world.

daring granite
#

I can't, BECAUSE I'm being crashed you imbecile

sharp saddle
#

šŸ‘€ Your avatar is crashing you?

daring granite
#

meaning: I can't open menu, I can't see names, nothing

open crescent
daring granite
#

Sure but it's different when your talking to a brick wall

sharp saddle
#

I'm just offering basic suggestions. Not my fault you can't stop yelling.

daring granite
#

Not my fault you can't use your head

#

At this point your making me look like a Harvard teacher

sharp saddle
#

No, you just really suck at explaining the issue without resorting to yelling.

daring granite
sharp saddle
#

... Go to a different world.

daring granite
daring granite
#

I can't open a menu in that situation

#

Literally not possible

wheat sequoia
#

Restart the game and turn on safety settings. It's not hard

daring granite
#

Ah yes because either I get crashed(not fun) or I get rid of the entire point of the game (not fun(

sharp saddle
#

Do you not have a PC?

daring granite
#

You wanna know a real fix? Fix the damn game

daring granite
open crescent
#

I'm starting to wonder if you're really getting crashed by someone or it's just the quest crashing because you enabled too much very poor avatars

grim path
#

and all avatars hidden

#

because try that and gradually show more people without starting to crash

daring granite
daring granite
grim path
#

damn tf kinda lobbies u in

#

people be malicious

daring granite
#

Any murder lobby

#

Literally about all of them

sharp saddle
#

There's your problem.

grim path
#

pretty f’d up but its not like vrc can do much to fix that at this point, cant stop all the people using modded clients

#

they have EAC but for the people who get through that they rely on user reports

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and i dont think EAC is even on quest

daring granite
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That's why I can't wait till someone makes a rip off that is somehow way better

grim path
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well, theres always CVR

sharp saddle
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Maybe not go to Murder lobbies?

open crescent
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The hardest thing to get is the community. CVR has like 50 users (simultaneously)

sharp saddle
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I am, actually.

grim path
sharp saddle
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Weird that it's an insult. o_O

open crescent
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If you keep being cringe you're just gonna end up getting banned

sharp saddle
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Bruh.

daring granite
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Cool at this point I do not care

sharp saddle
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It's quite apparent you can't take basic critique.

daring granite
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Getting banned is a badge of honor considering every mod I've met in other servers abuses they're power

jovial kestrel
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Their*

sharp saddle
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Sup Ati.

jovial kestrel
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Yo

grim path
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ati didnt even post the bird emoji this time

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live atiash reaction

vocal shard
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What’s happening?

open crescent
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Thankstiash

grim path
sharp saddle
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Gross.

vocal shard
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Oh ok

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question

sharp saddle
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Statement.

vocal shard
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When’s the servers gonna be back up for vrchat

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Cause I can’t get on TwT

sharp saddle
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You in EU?

vocal shard
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Idk

grim path
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wait i just realized this is gen-2 tf

vocal shard
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I’m in Canada

open crescent
sharp saddle
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Welcome to gen-2, bed. sansgrin

vocal shard
open crescent
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What has humanity come to

grim path
vocal shard
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But are the servers also affected in Canada?

daring granite
vocal shard
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Cell when you gonna absorb android 18 and 17

sharp saddle
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Who farted in your corn flakes this morning?

daring granite
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Don't know still on the calendar for that

open crescent
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I thought you got banned lmao

vocal shard
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Ight

daring granite
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No they gave me a warning šŸ’€

vocal shard
vocal shard
daring granite
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Trying to get me banned for that is just sad

daring granite
vocal shard
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Like

daring granite
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Slow, spectrum, brick wall, imbecile

vocal shard
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Ok

grim path
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i mean spectrum internet is hella fuckin slow

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fuck spectrum

daring granite
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Not as slow as atnt

vocal shard
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Question for you cell

grim path
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didnt even know atnt was still an internet provider

daring granite
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Sadly it is

sharp saddle
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I had AT&T before (via Cricket). It was... meh coverage.

daring granite
vocal shard
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What’s your favourite anime

wind lintel
vocal shard
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STFU

daring granite
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Hard choice between jojos, dragon ball super, and jujutsu kaisen

wind lintel
daring granite
daring granite
vocal shard
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Mines one piece

grim path
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my favorite anime is king of the hill

sharp saddle
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I miss Dale. :(

grim path
open crescent
daring granite
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Only reason I don't watch one piece is because I AINT watching

wind lintel
daring granite
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ALLAT

vocal shard
daring granite
sharp saddle
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Seriously, dude. What is your malfunction?

wind lintel
daring granite
vocal shard
wind lintel
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I go camping

vocal shard
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I have a perfect video for the go touch grass thing but I can’t put it in

wind lintel
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Wanna see a pic of my friend holding 5 goldfish he grabbed out of the lake

daring granite
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Quick notice Artemis I have you BLOCKED

sharp saddle
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Do it.

wind lintel
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okay one sec

vocal shard
cursive barn
fresh garnet
daring granite
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?

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What bout it

fresh garnet
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yeah

vocal shard
wind lintel
vocal shard
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Also, her name is Meru

dry violet
daring granite
sharp saddle
sinful hedge
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Cool

wind lintel
vocal shard
vocal shard
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<@&397642795457970181>

open crescent
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Not really "weird" just another edgy cringe kid

cunning dagger
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idk why it didnt delete their shit

karmic rose
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Cuz edgy letters

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What a cool kid that was. So cool

cunning dagger
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i hope he didnt cut himself on that edge

karmic rose
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We all gotta learn somehow

vocal shard
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I actually went and asked them why are they mad at VR chat they said I am not mad It is just funny to troll

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._.

karmic rose
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Yes. It's a child.

vocal shard
karmic rose
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They prob play VRChat a ton. Just haha funny edgy. Child behavior. Ain't hold it against em. Kid gunna kid. But yeah lol

vocal shard
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Childish behavior

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Play VRChat a ton to be a bad person

karmic rose
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Lmao

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Too much tap water

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Probably lives next to a 5G tower.

vocal shard
karmic rose
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One can only hope

worldly raptor
hardy perch
worldly raptor
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suggest edit link in the page not working.

hardy perch
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idk who to yell at about that one

hardy perch
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ok i see it