vrchat-general-2

[obsidian helm]

I feel as if that profile pic would be perfect for the 12 yr old boy voice of a girl its funny AF but yeezus its acurate

[vocal shard]

i have a very deep voice for a woman ive been told ive sounded like 42 with children but i just turned 20 😭

[main rover]

should have a soundboard with crying noises so you can nope out of a game, just start playing that and say you have to go

[tough narwhal]

Bruh why is it so hard get people look at first line my about me like its coolest line ever 🥺

[vocal shard]

haha get yelled at by the bot

[vernal jewel]

anybody know how to get virtual desktop to work on vrc now? i use virtual desktop streamer

[bold flame]

I was tryna say sum funny 😭😭

[main rover]

does EAC actually stop virtual desktop?

[round igloo]

'oops I gotta bounce, forgot I gotta go pick Timmy up from his baseball game'

[vernal jewel]

it does for me

[vocal shard]

i gotta go iron my fish and feed my shoes mb

[main rover]

That's terrible for streamers, hopefully they could fix that

[obsidian helm]

they've said it multiple times that it doesn't but it probably varies from user to user

[bold flame]

Are you able to use virtual desktop without a pc or does it just continue having you as a questie?

[main rover]

I think virtual desktop not only works on quest, but allows you to play pc without the cord

[vernal jewel]

i had to be a questie last night because it said it was a bad .dll inject. so idk

[bold flame]

Do i need a pc though to have vrc show up as a pc player? or like will i need a actual pc for that.

[obsidian helm]

If only it worked for a Rift S, POS but I still love it

[vocal shard]

you need a pc

virtrual desktop is a way to wiressly connect your pc

[main rover]

I think pc is required

[vernal jewel]

i use a PC with virtual desktop because my link cable is messed up, but now it wont work at ALL

[obsidian helm]

ooof

[bold flame]

okayy, i was curious

[main rover]

did you try reinstalling virtual desktop?

[vernal jewel]

ive reinstalled literally EVERYTHING and nothing worked sadly

[vocal shard]

have you tried airlink?

[main rover]

rip, maybe check with support

[vernal jewel]

airlink is literally the worst thing oculus came out with, it never works correctly

[vocal shard]

damn

i switched to the index before airlink came out

[vernal jewel]

if anybody has a quest 2 and uses virtual desktop, please dm me and explain how you do it 🥳

[obsidian helm]

If only oculus put some care into it, but then again prices are high for manufacturing now

[main rover]

At least the index is a better experience (I think)

[vocal shard]

i dont lag as much anymore

[main rover]

Ah well that's good, btw, since I've never had a quest, how is the comfort on it?

[vernal jewel]

stock? shit. need the strap to actually make it comfy

[vocal shard]

you need to get a custom strap if you want to play more then 30 mins

[main rover]

I see, well that's really sad

[obsidian helm]

lol

[bold flame]

Y'all don't just put up with the strap it comes with? 😬 it hurts like a mofo but i put up with it💀

[vocal shard]

ill literally send you my strap dont play with me

[vernal jewel]

you're a trooper, i hate it, feels like its squeezing my head till i pop

[bold flame]

Tuff as hell man 🙏

and send me what??

[main rover]

I wish I bought the index, I got the original vive pro

[vocal shard]

the pro strap

[bold flame]

why would you do that 😭😭

[vocal shard]

the stock is so baddd no one deserves that

[bold flame]

its not bad when you play over 7 hours every day for like a month😭😭

get use to it after awhile mannn

[keen trout]

Anyone know why I cant open my radial menu in other worlds?

[thorny nacelle]

that's a bit sad to still people mad after they did a ton of annoucement, and i'm sure vrc is going to be safer because there no client and stuff (for now) and chillout is going to be chaotic because all of the client and stuff are going to switch on it

[vocal shard]

that means youre just becoming numb

[bold flame]

i loosen it so it's like barely staying on my head just so it feels comfortable if it gets to irritating 💀 doubt i'm getting numb

[thorny nacelle]

But hey, at least we can talk with no insult in that tchat lol

[main rover]

talking about g1?

[thorny nacelle]

Yeah. a little bit chaotic up here

[vocal shard]

some people are passionate about fighting a uphil battle

and some people doxing tupper isnt helping them at all

[main rover]

I am really looking forward to that chat bubble thing, I hope it comes in soon

[thorny nacelle]

Yeah. I can see that, I was sad, but when I think about it it's not that bad to have eac, for now it's protecting from people with client and stuff, will see for how much time it handle, but well. I feel more safe in vrchat than in chillout when mods/client are going to join the game lol

[obsidian helm]

i would hop on cvr but nahhh that's a little bit to much for me, i'd rather not have the same thing happen to where i need to install etc. I'm fine relaxing on vrc. it gives me a sense of safety instead of two people fighting and then pull out mods to crash someone it's dumb to me to not just calm down and think about it

[bold flame]

I'm mainly here js tryna make friends, my friends aren't online a lot and my boyfriends in another country for a week so i got a bit lonely 😞

[vocal shard]

tbh same but without the friends and bf part, i have neither
i also dont want a bf

[main rover]

You could friend me on vrc if you want, but since I am a mute you'd have to carry any conversation you'd want to have

[thorny nacelle]

And saddest thing. tupper is having everyone insulting him, but he is a CM, what in the hell in wrong with people, he do not do the choice of the developers

[vocal shard]

some people dont understand that he dosent have any control of that he is only the messenger

[bold flame]

I can be both of y'all's friendsss and dw about being mute

(idk if y'all care abt age really. i am 16 tho if it does matter ahhh)

[obsidian helm]

once u give people a sense of freedom, they're not willing to hear things out

[thorny nacelle]

he can take feedback yes. he can't make the choice of what is going to happen to the game

[vocal shard]

anyone is free to add me if yall want toooo i like talking to peopleee

[main rover]

Yeah I'm 15 so it won't really effect anything

[thorny nacelle]

and actually, i'm gratefull to vrc team that stay calm face to all of that

[vocal shard]

i would buy vrc+ but kinda low on money lol

[bold flame]

okayy, do you know sign language on vrc?? or ? i wanna learn it just don't know where to go to do so haha.

[tacit wigeon]

experimental asl world I think it's called?

[main rover]

I don't know sign language sadly, although even if I did, I don't have an index, I got standard vive controllers

[obsidian helm]

ASL community

[thorny nacelle]

Like, vrchat said it for a while that mods wasn't allowed, and people keep having it and complaining that it break fonction of the game, but it's mods fault, not devs fault

[tacit wigeon]

you can do vrchat's version of asl with non-index controllers

[main rover]

oh?

[bold flame]

you don't always need index controllers, i've met people that do sign as questies

also thank you @tacit wigeon

and @obsidian helm

[tacit wigeon]

https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_5e778b1b-88c7-4f44-8ff3-a3f289816fd0

[obsidian helm]

I would ask tup to consider having leap motion support so i can use my hands without controllers

[main rover]

interesting, although I likely wouldn't need to learn if vrc plans to add chat bubbles

[thorny nacelle]

Yeah yeah

[obsidian helm]

killing to birds with one stone ASL and having to learn it

[bold flame]

oh rightt, how would typing be though?? it would take for ever, unless ofc it uses your voice to insert the text

[vocal shard]

some people have troubles reading

[main rover]

I think it comes in with TTS

[thorny nacelle]

I'm more and more suprised but those feature tbh, more than I am angry lol, it is what it is I guess eheh.

[vocal shard]

people are also deaf 😭

[main rover]

that is what the chat bubbles are for!

[thorny nacelle]

in that case they only use asl or bubble yeah

[vocal shard]

i know some deaf people that arent good readerssss thaats what im trying to sayyyy

[obsidian helm]

at least i don't have to pay for it like i did i still have TTS on one of my avis(doesn't work anymore)

[main rover]

There is already some OSC applications too that you can add to your avatar, they cost money but it does the same thing

[thorny nacelle]

But you know that bubble still work right? it's working with OSC lol. (you said it first lol)

[main rover]

lul

[thorny nacelle]

but that mean bubble for everyone

[main rover]

I might get an OSC application to use a more realistic AI, just to make it more normal for ppl around me

[vocal shard]

ima get on vrc for a bit so if anyone wants to add me feel freee
my vrc user is nNyeh

[waxen briar]

Anyone know of any good horror worlds in vrc

[bold flame]

i'm debating whether to hop on or not, i need to head to bed soon but i know i'll end up staying up even later on the headset loll

[obsidian helm]

Haunted Asylum Lmfao

[main rover]

Could always try sleeping in vr

[tacit wigeon]

just sleep in vr 👌

[vocal shard]

i would say hds but he moved to another game

[waxen briar]

No, that one isn't

[bold flame]

I've tried, i toss and turn quite a lot to get comfortable so it's difficult 😭

[main rover]

Yeah same, my body doesn't agree with it lol

[obsidian helm]

ik thats y i said it lol r/woosh to u

[thorny nacelle]

I love how people are saying vrc is dead and there is 73k people connected lol

[main rover]

~1/3 of pc players stopped playing, so ig ppl that are saying that are within that third

[obsidian helm]

propaganda thats all

[vocal shard]

get rid of that stock strap thenn

[thorny nacelle]

probably lol

[bold flame]

i need to lmfaooo

[vocal shard]

about to be one more player, oki byee

[main rover]

you could try to loosen the strap and then use a pillow to keep it on your face

[thorny nacelle]

I'm confused

[bold flame]

true true

[obsidian helm]

the HBO Documentary better go through all the areas in VRC(Light,Dark,Backrooms) it'll bring in a good amount hopefully

[main rover]

I hope it doesn't end up being one of those documentaries that say it's an incredibly unsafe place for children

[obsidian helm]

I stg

[main rover]

Like those articles saying that "minors are being allowed into virtual strip clubs"

[bold flame]

I allowed my dad on my headset once. i was in a public (full of people) black cat. that was..quite the experience i'm ngl.

[obsidian helm]

ikr, then again there is truth in those Documentaries like Juice's, I still need to watch the X one

[obsidian helm]

were there people rp'ing at the mirrors(never been in crazy blackcats just chill in GEN)

[thorny nacelle]

Like, i'm only "shocked" by seeing 12yo people on vrc

[main rover]

yeah, 12 is super young

although I sadly can't talk because that's when I started playing vrc lol

[obsidian helm]

u are? i've seen younger and im dissapointed in my own generation already b4 we get to parenting ages

[bold flame]

Some 12 year olds aren't always bad. but it's a rare occasion you find a chill one. One of my friends is 12, he's not your average squeaker and he can be mature so.

[thorny nacelle]

A friend of mine is 14, he is being carefull with people, never talk never send picture, i'm pround of how carefull he is

[main rover]

Yeah, that's an upside abt kids being given internet when young, they SOMETIMES learn how internet security works

[obsidian helm]

same(10 tho)

[bold flame]

Yeah thats the average age of people you find tho, your allowed to own an oculus at the age of 13 so..

[bold flame]

I've had electronics since i was real real young 😭. Maybe if i was protected from the internet i wouldn't be so fucked up in the head 🤦‍♀️

[vocal shard]

bruh i didnt get my first phone until i was 15

[thorny nacelle]

I'm just proud of people being carefull, and that's rassuring to see that young people still being carefull

[main rover]

Yeah same

[bold flame]

i was given my first phone under the age of 10.. 😟

[vocal shard]

and yall getting a vr headset

[main rover]

lol

[obsidian helm]

yea but it's more of the parenting that u can see on those kids that are that age and then u just have ones tht are horrible, I just grew up with good morals and I pretty much had sense

[vocal shard]

ok im done feeling old now im actually leaving now

[obsidian helm]

ur not old ur still a gen z since ur 20

[main rover]

^

[vocal shard]

im oldd

[bold flame]

I was one of the kids introduced to kik when it was around and active .. My sister knew a lot more about the internet since she's older lol, she introduced me to it and i became..fucked haha.

cant blame it all bc of that but that's how i found my first not so safe site ..

[main rover]

I'm lucky, I never really got into social media

[obsidian helm]

Social media just never made clear sense in my head nor when I was on it so I wasn't on it that much

[main rover]

yeah same

[bold flame]

Social media is what helped me be more social i feel like though. i've made a lot of online friends throughout my life.

[main rover]

then maybe I should've gotten into it so I didn't have such a crippling social anxiety in the current

[drowsy sigil]

Got a problem, I didn't download this easyanticheat thing

[bold flame]

don't think it's completely out yet

[drowsy sigil]

I cant play the game

[thorny nacelle]

Well guys, was good to tchat, it's time for me to sleep

[main rover]

cya

[vocal shard]

gnitee

[obsidian helm]

u just gotta be aware of the things u do pretty much, No no Im not saying it doesn't help but it changes ur perspective on everything, since I didn't have it so I had anxiety which also changed me aswell to be protective and to be attentive

[bold flame]

sleep well kith kith /p

[trail sparrow]

Hi

[main rover]

what is /p?

[vocal shard]

my steam vr isnt turning on

[obsidian helm]

U should've gotten an update from/to VRC if u have steam that is

[bold flame]

/platonic (like i meant it in a platonic way)

[main rover]

ah makes sense

[drowsy sigil]

i have steam

[obsidian helm]

what as a friend to hang out with?

[vocal shard]

try redownloading vrc

[drowsy sigil]

but i didnt get a reminder

[bold flame]

I put < kith kith > and meant it in a friendly way i guess

[obsidian helm]

that's odd, also U GUESS hmmmmmmmmm u sus

[vocal shard]

the one thing i dont like about fullbody is that it takes alot to setup

[main rover]

ye lul

btw, have you ever had issues with a tracker drifting away a lot? I've been having the issue for months

[vocal shard]

nope, might be a tracking issue for you

[obsidian helm]

i'm joking obvi but redownload it wavus. yea also for quest users main priority for u guys is to actually track the trackers(my trackers are drifting a little bit(very minor) but thats all

[main rover]

rip, I feel like it's either one of my dongles being faulty or the base station

[obsidian helm]

possibly the bass station

[vocal shard]

is it just one or is it all of them and your controllers too?

[main rover]

I always have at least one tracker, usually the hip tracker, drift either completely or slightly, when I rotate

also idk if it's important to also add, whenever I set my trackers down onto my bed, they stop tracking

[trail sparrow]

Yo

[obsidian helm]

just realized i had mines on the entire time r.i.p battery level

[vocal shard]

is your shirt blocking it

typing in vr hard

[main rover]

I don't think it is, when I play vr I usually wear a shirt that is fairly tight

[vocal shard]

do you tuck it in?

[main rover]

No I don't

[vocal shard]

try doing that

[main rover]

alr, I'll try doing that when I go into vr, might get on today but idk

[vocal shard]

love all the notisi get wwhen i plug in my dongles

[main rover]

lul, you could turn off the connect/disconnect noise in windows

[vocal shard]

lazy

[main rover]

valid

[grim path]

who wears shirts while playing vr what

[meager solstice]

What trackers do u have?

[main rover]

2.0s

[meager solstice]

Interesting

Do u have any mirrors in ur room or do u have ur base stations visible? Like high up?

[main rover]

no mirrors, base stations are high up (unless you consider a tv a mirror)

[meager solstice]

How big of a tv

[main rover]

I think ~40in, could be an overestimate though

[meager solstice]

U try covering it up?

I wouldn’t think it would cause issue but stuff is weird.

[main rover]

no I haven't, although my previous playspace didn't have any big tv with the same issue

[meager solstice]

What base stations u have?

[main rover]

Classic vive ones

[meager solstice]

1.0?

[main rover]

yeah, believe so

[meager solstice]

They connected with the cord thing to sync them? And how long have u had them (have they always caused issues)

[main rover]

Nah too far away from my pc to use the sync cable, and I've had the base station for ~3 years, and I think I've had the issue for around 2 years after

[meager solstice]

Vive trackers up to date?

[main rover]

believe so, nothing showing an update is needed

[meager solstice]

Weird, any difference on steamvr beta?

[main rover]

I haven't tried the beta, though I've reinstalled steamvr plenty of times, and also did a full windows reinstall

I use the wireless adapter for the vive if that means anything

[meager solstice]

Honestly I don’t have any other things that can help

Could it be something interfering with the dongles?

[main rover]

It could be the dongles, with how my setup is like I can't really get them too far from the pc while them still being far from each other

[vocal shard]

new update that push to fast now fck up.... cant search world now... worst.. no update for searching avatars... just please add that back devs....

[trail sparrow]

I think we can say fuck

[main rover]

I never used those types of things, did searching avatars only give the world it's from?

[sharp saddle]

Avatar searching was never a feature. o_O

[meager solstice]

They didn’t push an update, they pushed a beta update. So that…. They can find bugs with the update (pushing updates straight to live never goes well)

[vocal shard]

then why search exist in avatar menu?

[sharp saddle]

It doesn't do anything and more than likely there to keep UI consistency.

[main rover]

it searches for worlds with the avatar tag I believe

[vocal shard]

on world menu its active.. then when goes avatar menu it not active... tags doesnt exist in avatar menu

[upbeat bear]

that’s always been a thing, they’re discussing implementing an avatar search

[sharp saddle]

[upbeat bear]

avatar searching has never been possible, it’s simply greyed out because it can’t be used but they won’t change the entire ui for it, but it’s being discussed as a possibility in the future

[vocal shard]

why is this avatar search such a big issue, do people not just search ' __ avatars' in worlds and go look lol

[upbeat bear]

most avatars aren’t in worlds

[vocal shard]

then eac is sudden update for chaos?

[main rover]

Does avatar searching allow you to instantly copy the public avatars, or give you the world where it's from?

[upbeat bear]

searching it would most likely show up with avatars that include the tags you searched, or have the name you searched

[main rover]

no like the modded avatar searching

[upbeat bear]

pretty sure it came up when you searched the name

[vocal shard]

avatar search help u find where the world and owner of the creator

[main rover]

your can already find the owner if a player has it in your lobby

[upbeat bear]

not every avatar is in a world, though. that’s why avatar search is needed

[main rover]

although the publisher isn't always the person who has it in the world

[upbeat bear]

with worlds, they can have tags put onto them, and the world will show up if you search the tags it has, most likely same thing for when vrchat comes out with an avatar search

[vocal shard]

if the player is not in lobby ?

[upbeat bear]

then that’s why we need avatar search, simple

[main rover]

then gl

[upbeat bear]

a large amount of good avatars aren’t in worlds, so a search would make it a lot easier to find public avatars, instead of constantly asking to clone when you see it

[vocal shard]

true

also a good thing... with mods.. can give u unlimited avatar fav

[upbeat bear]

they’re increasing favourites soon thankfully, non vrc+ to 50, vrc+ to 300

[vocal shard]

urgh...

[upbeat bear]

? it’s a good thing

[vocal shard]

can they just add recent players

[upbeat bear]

that’s been suggested many times so it’s likely they’re taking it into consideration

[main rover]

what would "recent players" be?

[upbeat bear]

having a list of recent players you’ve been in a lobby with, since you can have a great convo with someone, crash, forget to add them and don’t remember their user

[vocal shard]

list of players that were in the last server you were in before it probably shit the bed and crashed out of nowhere

[main rover]

ah yeah that'd definitely be a good thing to have, I've had times where my headset died when I was thinking about friending somebody

[vocal shard]

no... lots of people have more than 300+ avatars fav in modded version rather then current 100 avatars fav. after they lose vrc+. they still have more access to the unlimited avatar fav

[upbeat bear]

limited amount of avatar favourites is what pushes people to buy vrc+. and you really can’t expect them to give unlimited avatars, 300 is more than enough

[sudden galleon]

Yo is vrchat cool yet?

[magic gate]

From what I've read, it seems like the current limit is because of UI limitations, and theyll up the limit again in the new main menu they're working on

[upbeat bear]

the beta is pretty neat

[upbeat bear]

yeah that’s another thing too, it’s pretty impossible to get unlimited in the base game

[sudden galleon]

Is it worthy enough to play at this time. Has the rumors vanished yet?

[magic gate]

The mods could do it because they don't care about "ease of use" and "bug free experience"

[upbeat bear]

i mean the beta is live compatible, i had fun on vrc today. for a non modding user it’s like christmas lol

[main rover]

I think the mods changed how the UI worked to make it possible

[sudden galleon]

Ah so there's no more fears of "hackers". People got over it?

[vocal shard]

unlimited fps and clock need to be add in the menu

[magic gate]

The only people saying that are likely people who just spreading FUD

[upbeat bear]

the massive hacker thing was a rumour, but i have noticed a slight increase in the frequency of crashes since more people are going towards avatar crashers now

[main rover]

why would you need unlimited fps?

I get that it's cool to have a super powerful pc and see how high the numbers can get, but there isn't really a practical purpose for unlimited fps

[magic gate]

Unlimited fps points to someone in this game actually hitting their fps limit, which would be a first

[vocal shard]

yeah, crashers could be done before eac and the reason theres so many now after eac is because the crashers are people who are upset their mods got taken away

[upbeat bear]

exactly

[main rover]

tru

[upbeat bear]

just don’t go into a black cat and you’ll be good lol

[sudden galleon]

Alright sick

[main rover]

I average 40 fps in the default vrc home world :c

[vocal shard]

or the pug

[obsidian roost]

could someone help? my vrchat isnt working

[upbeat bear]

true

[sudden galleon]

Yeah I mostly just play it with my boyfriend in private

[magic gate]

Damnnn (I hit 144), but my PC is top tier

[main rover]

yeah I really only get on when I have somebody to join in a private, any good public world slaughters my pc

[upbeat bear]

but honestly, the features in the beta are really nice

[main rover]

If steamvr didn't have smoothing, it'd be actually unplayable

[vocal shard]

1.fps unlimiter gives boost fps to limit even fps drops.
2.crashers still wild around since there still have avatar crasher uploaded.

[upbeat bear]

now i’m just praying captions will come in soon

[main rover]

if ur talking about the TTS stuff, same

[upbeat bear]

not TTS, speech to text, since i’m HoH

[main rover]

yeah that's mostly what I meant, btw what does HoH mean?

[upbeat bear]

HoH stands for Hard of Hearing

[magic gate]

Oh god I turn that off, it's so jarring, the visual artifacts are insane and so annoying, much rather just see the normal low fps

[main rover]

Oh I see, yeah that'd be a pretty useful for you to have

[vocal shard]

they now empliment what mods we have to mode they add in vrc now

[upbeat bear]

some quest users need it too, though

[obsidian roost]

can someone help? its saying vrchat didnt launch correctly or something, im on index btw if someone needs to know

wdym clean install?

[main rover]

delete all files, reinstall vrc

[vocal shard]

uninstall and install

[obsidian roost]

okay

beta client?

[vocal shard]

im not suprise... if ur idle to long in one world... then trying to join someone thats in blue(join me)... its says the world havent release to the platform yet even ur in pc world an thats is pc world too...

[sharp saddle]

I wouldn't say rushed, these features have likely been done for awhile, they just needed some extra QA testing.

[vocal shard]

they was rushed it... install eac then couple minutes they put exact same mod into beta. letting modded gamer to lose all their mods

[vocal shard]

theres still have flaws because of this

[robust spire]

how do you add notes on the vrc website? i thought it was live?

[sharp saddle]

I see it on my end.

[runic bronze]

Select someone on the website and then you'll see a note section

[robust spire]

where abouts?

[runic bronze]

It should be just above the part that has the location they're in (if they do)

but you might need to refresh your cache to see the update perhaps

[robust spire]

I dont see it im on the users page

[runic bronze]

try ctrl r to hard refresh*

[sharp saddle]

https://artemus.cc/NJvRmu.png

[robust spire]

Thanks both i think its a cache thing with chromium.

[sharp saddle]

That might be it.

[halcyon fern]

wait i heard that they might be getting rid of EAC is that true?

[vocal shard]

No

[silver zephyr]

Does anyone know what it means when it says “Failed to initialize the game launcher” ?

[rustic venture]

I love it how that they didn't decide to do anything with the VRC+ money for years, then after the update, They freaked out, A few days later, They're releasing a lot of features immediately.
LMAO. Lazy developers.
Also, No. that isn't @halcyon fern

[halcyon fern]

Ahhh okie

[heady raft]

Yeah they're profiting off of other people's work.

[open crescent]

House of Hermits

[upbeat bear]

?

[open crescent]

They decided to pay their employees to keep developing the game, for example

[rustic venture]

Yes, Not crediting the one who created it. All they did was using our vrc+ money to go on vacations, years later they add in one or two features. They get so much hate? Omg lemme release so many new things in 2 DAYS! Its ridiculous. xD

[open crescent]

ah, the tantrum gang. never ceases to dissapoint

[sharp saddle]

Didn't you have to pay for some of these mods?

[rustic venture]

A lot of jobs and work does that, All they did was to keep the game running for years. Thats all

[rustic venture]

Nope. All was for free.

[open crescent]

ah, the tantrum gang, just because they didn't do exactly what you wanted doesn't mean the game hasn't changed at all in years

and also, not all mods were free, lol

[heady raft]

They tried to play the Physbone update off as their own creation even though all they did was took the Dynamic Bones script and added colliders so you can pull on them.

[main rover]

Pretty much all the mods that people really relied on were free, things like anti-crash

[dry wigeon]

No whoever's saying that is lying lol. There not changing there minds about it

[open crescent]

you maybe should read into how dynamic bones works, and how physics bones work

tantrum gang doesn't fail to entertain

[vocal shard]

[heady raft]

Ok Questie

[main rover]

Why do people use questie as an insult

[open crescent]

ah the tantrum gang, now they think I use a quest and try to insult me with that lmao

[vocal shard]

Default mindset of a person who refuses to listen to the right things

[vocal shard]

cuz its the only way they feel like a better person ig

[main rover]

HUH?!?!?

[vocal shard]

how dare this person have a diffrent vrheadset then me grrr

[winter sigil]

gm lobotomites, whatve i missed since the last time ive been here

[vocal shard]

Did I stutter?

[main rover]

Using questie as an insult is pretty much the same as calling somebody a brokie, just because they can't afford a 1k pc and a ~$800 headset

[vocal shard]

Mhm

[winter sigil]

ah i see, both sides of the spectrum reeing at eachother as usual, ill take my leave lmfao

[heady raft]

Nah it's because they defend the developers for the shit they pulling.

[open crescent]

ah the tantrum gang, justifying irrational screeching and spamming of misinformation, as well as all the insults

[vocal shard]

I've always been neutral

Hi everyone, new to this channel 👋

Heyo

How’s everyone doing?

[sharp saddle]

God, you're such an ableist.

[vocal shard]

I'm having an ill at the moment, but otherwise I'm pretty much okay

[winter sigil]

watching the local lobotomites tear eachother apart more so than usual

[vocal shard]

@winter sigil that’s a vibe 😂

[winter sigil]

heard about the eac or whatever and watching both sides piss and cry, dont care been here since 17 and been moaning bout crashers since then and just watching the community tear at eachothers throat cause the devs sat around or whatever, dont know dont care lol

[open crescent]

I read this as "God, you're such an atheist" lol

[sharp saddle]

Can definitely see that.

[vocal shard]

Fair enough. I’m sure ittle die off in a couple of weeks, hopefully

[winter sigil]

the shitzos and pervs seem pretty determined so idk lmao

[vocal shard]

Also you’ve been on vrc for a hot minute!

[winter sigil]

i remember the first crasher and model ripper i ever came across years and years ago

[vocal shard]

That’s crazy lol

[rustic venture]

I SAID
M
O
D
S
They deleted my comment LOL

[winter sigil]

imo they couldve done something about it years ago but they lazily did "something" about it with safety but at this point idc im on a haitus and im just enjoying the show of the devs get shit on and everyone crying and getting mad

[vocal shard]

You’re comment can get deleted just from saying that!

[winter sigil]

me or him?

[vocal shard]

Him, I’m on slow mode so I gotta wait half a min to respond lol

[winter sigil]

eugh, me too, probs to keep the lobotomites from spamming

[vocal shard]

Probably. Honestly I had no idea that their discord was so censored

[winter sigil]

wasnt before lmao

[main rover]

maybe wasn't previously, but the security update had lots of people going to the discord to spam

[open crescent]

it's just because of the screeching tantrum gang spamming so much shit these last few days

[vocal shard]

All probably underage kids who can only act on emotions lol, like if you’re upset about the update, discuss about it in a civilized manner 🤷‍♂️

[winter sigil]

eh, ive been watching the lobotomites go at it for years they dont do civilized

[vocal shard]

@open crescent valid point

I’m upset about the update 😠 grrr I’ll never be civilized

Lmao 😂

Pitchforks it is I guess.

[winter sigil]

anyways i had my fill of fun watching gen 1 go crazy, im gonna head out and play something, maybe tupper will listen years in advance next time huh? guess well see if the lobotomites dont ruin everything more then usual

[vocal shard]

Sounds good, take care sauseman

I don’t need to a pitchfork I already found my way 😏 just fun to watch new gens freak out because they aren’t smart enough to bypass 💀 and with that I go back to watching

Fair enough, what’s this new gens you guys keep mentioning? I’m not tracking on that

New generation of all the little toxic monkeys that think they know things and have some sort of power lol.

Gotcha. Yeah they annoy the hell outta me in vrc

Kinda wish they would just stick with Minecraft

[cold talon]

you already bypassed it?

[vocal shard]

anyone has mods bypassers already made?

[sharp saddle]

You're just asking to be banned, my guy.

[vocal shard]

just tested beta version... still broken.

[sharp saddle]

...What's broken?

[vocal shard]

i crashed 7 times already

now i undo update and change back normal vrc... sure theres still bug in beta..

[noble depot]

report it on the beta canny! otherwise it won't be fixed: https://feedback.vrchat.com/open-beta
providing reproduction steps and/or the relevant output log link (via Pastebin or similar) would be helpful

[vocal shard]

reports have been done issue havent being fix.... nah...

im just done with the updates and eac.....DONE.

[noble depot]

oookay

the point of the beta is to find (and report) issues, so they can be fixed before they go to Live - I'd highly recommend making or voting for relevant canny posts if you encounter a bug

[vocal shard]

True

and... im still confuse... social game inputs eac? how that protect crashers still wild crashing?

or should i not go public instance?

Idk why it’s not working tbh i don’t even know why they even put this in in the first place

thats the thing... even i try getting new friends in public instance even this eac is on... i still get crashed multiple times in a minute

The problem is people have avatars that can crash people

true... my last fps before update in vr...... 55 to 79 fps without getting lower then this. now after update. 21 to 15 fps

[surreal plover]

Facebook is making vrc bad so you’ll play in the metavers

[vocal shard]

steam vr of mine usually before update... 25.5 to 30.1 over 15ms.. now after update 50.9 to 80.3 over 15ms

[vocal shard]

sorry... im a person who doesnt use quest side... im on pc side

[surreal plover]

Me too

[vocal shard]

then this update is a chaos...

if they implent the flying mode in menu... that would be useful. like cvr

[worthy helm]

didn't crash once all night, such bliss I love it

[bitter talon]

To be honest, I don't really care anymore about EAC, just the poor treatment of the community by the VRC team. Really upsetting.

[worthy flare]

Soooooo- If ya'll are doin security stuff and taking away our own m0ds. Can you please tell me when ya'll are gonne actually stop r!ppers? Client users have already found ways, considering they have been bragging publicly and you guys have yet to ever take care of the R!pper Store folks. They have a whole website and stuff. (Please don't get flagged again question, this is a serious remark.)

As a person who in the past has had my personal content snatched, it's kinda troublesome ngl... :/

[bitter talon]

Just in general if they would give us a milestone timeline with actual goal dates as oppose to "soon" or "in the next 2 weeks" They do realize that some of my friends and many VRC users can't connect? Its like they want the user base to bypass EAC. I really wish they would release more info in their announcements as oppose to essentially (we are working on it).

[lethal egret]

Vr chat devs

https://tenor.com/view/david-pate-gif-19163254

[warm ice]

How do i get mods

[lament pulsar]

Why don't my mods work anymore? 😭

[vocal shard]

skill issue

[lament pulsar]

I already tried "get gud".

[past moth]

Hey can anybody help me with my vive tracker issue?

[main rover]

?

[past moth]

My third tracker won't pair

[main rover]

Has it paired before previously?

[past moth]

no i got fbt today

[main rover]

All 3 dongles plugged in?

[past moth]

yessir

[main rover]

Have the two controllers paired fine as well?

[past moth]

come to #full-body-tracking pls

[main rover]

oki

[vocal shard]

LFG Ranked black cat

Lmao

[timid heart]

How many matches of Black Cat to get to Diamond Room of the Rain ranked.

[coral bloom]

Hello

[vocal shard]

You must have 10000+ confirmed KIA

[timid heart]

Dang. Gotta get my game on

[vocal shard]

It’s a tough job but someone has to do it 🥱

[charred zenith]

Hello

[vocal shard]

Hello

[charred zenith]

How are yall?

[visual lintel]

hello

[charred zenith]

Would anyone like to play with me??

[bitter talon]

Sure! What game? VRC kinda broke right now.

[charred zenith]

Ok!! :)

U can choose :) I'm ok with any game loll

[bitter talon]

Nice do you have NHL by chance?

[charred zenith]

Idk what that is sry!!😭

[bitter talon]

😫

[sour forge]

🍋lemons🍋

[vocal shard]

[wind cipher]

What’s the new update for?

[umbral reef]

What update- As there is a beta going on right now and we had a few days ago a proper new update where they added an anti cheat to prevent client users from running the game

[wind cipher]

No today’s one

[umbral reef]

Thats the beta update-
Just read #announcements

[jolly trench]

I cant believe people are still flipping out as much as this.

[umbral reef]

Thats what ya get when people accept lies and rumors over thinking for two seconds

[jolly trench]

Devs finally adding in highly requested features, and people are angry that they are doing exactly what they wanted them to do

[vocal shard]

No just angry at you

[hollow grove]

You honestly don't believe that is why they are angry right? Like that is so far from the truth its ridiculous on its face. That is not why people are mad, please don't be intellectually dishonest, you are as bad as the ones who are unreasonably mad.

[jolly trench]

thats not the only reason people are mad. but its one of the things people seem to be mad about.

[austere parrot]

hey does anyone know some good horror maps ?

[vocal shard]

Every map is a horror map without safety settings 😉

[granite summit]

There's a lot of good horror maps. I've mostly played, all of them feel free to add me, and I can show you the really good ones. I don't know them by name at the moment, but I can always send you photos or something

[candid sierra]

i'd be interested to see those horror maps myself

[jolly trench]

it wouldnt exactly call it horror, but, organism is really good

[nova kestrel]

There's a certain map that has portals to a lot of the higher quality horror maps

It's in Japanese characters so I can't put it here

[ivory harness]

What's the world owner's name

[nova kestrel]

also in japanese

[grave haven]

[candid sierra]

Hard to get on cool horror maps xD

[nova kestrel]

There is one horror adventure map i try a bit, its like 2-3 ours on a casual playthrough. problem is its about 1 gig in size and you have to be very careful since unoptimized avatars can break it and even openiung the hand menu could force vrc to time you out

tere is 1 other version of the map that is half the size, way more stable, but way less content. i tried telling the maker to just move to 3.0 but... people are satubborn

[open crescent]

maybe it's this ホラーワールドポータルコレクショ V2＝Horror Potal world＝

[nova kestrel]

hell, i know back when mods were a thing, if you had a mod the larger map would just crash outright upon initialization... unless you reduced your headsets quality

but even then it was buggy

and yes thats it. problem with it is it follows only certain makers and since officialsayon left its been kinda dead with nothing being added

[candid sierra]

2 to 3 hours?
wow that's actually prety cool

[nova kestrel]

2 hours if played normally, 3 if you go for the secret ending

[pliant jacinth]

Cool

[near hare]

Meow how is it going? slow mode still 😄

[full sail]

Too early. Tea hasn't invigorated the soul yet ewe

[lofty kiln]

Meowdy.

[mighty hamlet]

🤠

[vocal shard]

heh

[sharp nexus]

they wont back down get a life

[cyan falcon]

Morning!

[vocal shard]

I just thought of this if vrc gets more negative likes vive might remove vrc off of steam

[full sail]

o7

[vocal shard]

I mean they would if they tried the rippers would continue to come back nonstop so there ain’t no way to get rid of them even if you tried too

Plus your avatar is probably already on a website ready for someone to snag and grab and edit it aswell

[robust spire]

Uploaded one of my worlds! Not to VRC though 🙂

[exotic flicker]

can you show us? i wanna see who asked

[robust spire]

My VRC copy is private still so probably not.

[exotic flicker]

i wanna see who asked

[robust spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgkkdsehQ2Y

[vocal shard]

Damn

[full sail]

Tfw you could be playing any, but you were too tired to remember charging things back up last night and must wait

[open crescent]

valve doesn't remove games because of review bombs

[vocal shard]

Then what do they do to them?

[open crescent]

nothing

[vocal shard]

Oh then the information I got from a friend is false

[open crescent]

correct
and on the contrary, valve has measures against review bombs (i.e. to support games being attacked by tantrums)

[quaint island]

soooooooo bored

[vocal shard]

Oh so that how it works

[sharp saddle]

Try #quest-development?

[vocal shard]

dm me if u trynna play vrchat

[quaint island]

my friends is all AFK

[frank silo]

ok

[peak mauve]

try removing those polys that are not visible to anyone, e.g. chest that is covered with clothes and stuff like that

or better yet - check out this cool tutorial on how to do this properly because I'm stupid - https://youtu.be/8MkgXcidxg4

[lyric eagle]

optimizing? or just converting

converting and uploading is criminally simple, but properly optimizing is much MUCH harder

[peak mauve]

this video might help by a lot, at least you'll cut a lot of polys out

sipp's video helped me out by a lot :0

I'm really bad at Blender because I haven't used it for 3 years, so I almost don't remember anything useful, especially with those UI and hotkey changes

[broken verge]

hello

[hollow mantle]

Select the mesh on the right menu, then move your mouse onto the avatar and press tab to enter edit mode. It should show you all the polygons. Select some of the mesh (press a to select all) and you can then use the toolbar at the top to do mesh -> cleanup -> decimate. This will do a quick and dirty optimisation.
Alternatively you can download CATs blender plugin for VRchat avatars and there is a quick decimate and quick optimize button.
If you want to do it better, ctrl click on an edge loop to select the edge loop, and you can then press del to remove the edge and merge the faces. That’s the best way for a clean overall end result (just make sure not to delete red coloured edges - those are seams.)

[wind island]

Is there a place on the discord for recomended features? Is there any talk at all about a whitelist?

[peak mauve]

#feature-requests, if that's what you're talking about

[wind island]

ty

[frail pendant]

and the hub is down lol

[open crescent]

the #feature-requests channel is for discussion among users, you have to make a canny, read that channel's description

[wind island]

kk so best way is to make a thread on the other website and send it around?

[stuck parrot]

Probably

[serene wave]

honestly with the new update its cool but im dissapointed where was this shit before all this chaos why wasnt it added before why werent they listening before or were they just being fuckin lazy like what the hell if u can add this much shit so fast where was it before

[wind island]

yea, kinda sucks but it feels like playing VRC a year or two ago, untill more of the common stuff gets brought back "officially"

[serene wave]

like honestly they couldve avoided this drama if they started with we are adding eac but we are contacting modders to work on getting modded quality of life stuff added to the base game

would not piss off modders would not piss off those who use mods and would make the coding easier by a longshot as u have a idea of what to do

[wind island]

all the models ive had worked on the last few months are skuffed now untill they add an official view scaler back in or something.

[serene wave]

cause for me my one friend who i hanged with in vrc has left due to lack of confidence in the devs being able to do stuff when asked so im most likely leaving with them

cause i dont mind a eac implemented well but from the sounds of it it isnt done too well and was done way too fast

[lyric eagle]

they were waiting to see how the community reaction would be. Developing new features quickly is very expensive, and it would have been a waste if there wasnt enough demand or a massive player drop.

[wind island]

Id say, quit, cancel vrc+ and post in the feedback forums and vote on things. Dont worry about playing till things are back to the playability of a week ago. Im trying to organize friends who quit to vote on the features we want. Not much but its the only thing we can do

[serene wave]

i more mean the stuff that was asked for so much that modders just did it themselves not so much the smaller things

[wind island]

Hopefully at minimum a mod whitelist will be put in. 99% of VRC is community made, so I dont see how mods arnt just a part of the community experience

[lyric eagle]

again, no reason to speed development when it already existed in mods. People would continue to use mods and not utilize the new additions. The demand for an alternative only comes when the supply is cut off. I guarantee you they didn't have 1/100th of the demand for these features 2 weeks ago

[serene wave]

yeah but as they said themselves mods are against the tos they kinda fucked themselves by relying on them

cause as a man who likes money i can guarentee this was done to promote investors and not to help the community

[lyric eagle]

but clearly we can see they weren't relying on them. it took exactly 3 days to implement some of the most quintessential modded features that took 3rd parties months to make

[serene wave]

yeah then if it took them just 3 days why didnt they do it in the first place

[wind island]

im more worried about more niche mods that will never see the light of day now because they arnt commonplace. all that creativity down the toilet

[lyric eagle]

because its expensive. as a self-proclaimed man-who-likes-money, you should know that

[serene wave]

like disko we are going in a circle here yes its expensive but they were letting modders which is against their tos do stuff that was constantly asked for but then did it themselves in 3 days

they clearly had the tools for it and if they did it in 3 days they clearly had the plans for it

cause ive also done coding u dont just casually code that much shit in 3 days without it being patchy at best or u having planned it out and done it a bit at first

[wind island]

id bet all or most of these things were done ahead of time. Release the update (im assuming its something they were forced to put on the game at some point maybe) knowing theyd get bad feedback. And then have stuff ready to release to soften the blow.

[lyric eagle]

its still patchy, that's why it's in open beta. and most of the basic logic is done, the expensive part is the polishing and optimizing. That's why it's in open beta and why physbones took a whopping 7 weeks of open beta to get proper.

[wind island]

I doubt once they decided there was ever a chance of them not releasing EAC so they had to pull the bandaid off and lose players. But better to do it fast i guess then post in advance and make it seem like they could not do it

[lyric eagle]

if you've done coding, you know how annoying and time-consuming it can be to remove bugs.

[serene wave]

issue with this is then why not say its being added to not panic those who had disabilities feel like they were being ignored yeah but all that in 3 days even if it is bare bones is a fuck ton of code

[lyric eagle]

again, they didn't know how the community would react beforehand, they're not mind readers

[serene wave]

i disagree with that one considering how any community hates when there mods get removed

[wind island]

With how big the mod community is there is no way they wouldnt know

Itd be like Blizzard banning mods and being shocked players were mad

[lyric eagle]

its not that they didn't know mods to improve accessibility didnt exist, its about how the community would react to it. they gave people tools to work around the loss, thats the entire point of the OSC update.

nobody ever said shit about how much mods improved accessibility until the day the eac update was being announced

[serene wave]

well cause we never needed to say stuff about it as they never cared before

[wind island]

I just have to disagree. i dont see any world were them removing mods didnt bring a big backlash. Its a big part of the community as a whole. Id bet most people who play VRC on a constant basis on PC use a mod of somekind

[lyric eagle]

its not about the backlash, it's about the action. How many players left? What would the ratings look like? are we seeing a quick bounce-back?

[serene wave]

i just could never see it going well but i also gtg now

[wind island]

I mean for a lot of people, right now the game is objectively worse then it was last week. Playing right now is endorsing the developers actions. If you dont have VRC+ to cancel the only protest you can do is leave

I dont agree with people being shitty to the developers etc, but quiting in protest or trying out other games are the best action untill the game is in a playable state again

[lyric eagle]

yeah it's a lot of people, but it's not even the majority. About 35% of users actually use pc, and if we're generous and say 75% of them used mods, thats barely over 25% total userbase

and worst-case scenario, they had a contingency that allowed for the most popular mods that were brought up to be reintroduced quickly

[wind island]

Well 25% of a playerbase leaving is still a good chunk

[lyric eagle]

right, but 25% of the playerbase isnt leaving. We have data to back that up. https://imgur.com/BkJRNQA

[brisk herald]

That's exactly what I'm doing. A friend is wrapping up an avatar commission. Once that's done and I sign off on it, I'll no longer have any need to log into VRC. I will be canceling my account immediately after this is done, and I've previewed, accepted and received the package.

[wind island]

But i agree most will come back at some point. The other options TBH arnt that great, VRC has kinda a monopoly.

[lyric eagle]

yeah, we're already seeing an increasing trend on return users

[wind island]

it would have been a bigger deal if there was more reasonable competiton

[lyric eagle]

absolutely agreed. The only reason they went through with EAC is because there isnt

riveting

[brisk herald]

Chillout VR being overwhelmed is probably the only thing that has kept the numbers propped up. There has been numerous announcements of content creators making the jump as soon. As CVR becomes stable

[wind island]

Ill honestly come back if they add avatar scaling in. All my models i spent time and money are broken without it. I will feel shitty though for "crawling back" after being given the middle finger. Been a day 1 VRC+ because i wanted to support the game. But feel like the development is hostile at this moment. Feel how I felt during the blizzard scandal and uninstalling all of thier games

[lyric eagle]

cvr wont be stable for months. they want to see if the playerbase will become stable and only then will they decide to upgrade their servers.

you dont just blow cash on servers large enough to hold 1500+ people actively. that costs a decent chunk of change, especially for a free game dev previously running <25 users

[brisk herald]

This isn't what's being stated in their channel. On top of this, they already have most of the mods that VRC threw in the trash with EAC in place.

[lyric eagle]

can their servers currently hold more than 600 people?

[brisk herald]

They have also added staff, and I don't know. I can't do much while working 12 hour shifts

[wind island]

It will be a shame for the lifetime of VRC if they dont eventually look into a mod whitelist. Theres a lot of stuff that wont make the cut as being a generic addon to the game

the entire point of the game is player made content

[lyric eagle]

i think the best option for them would be to work through steam workshop, but that seems like something further down the pipeline

[wind island]

Outside the default homeworld, and fallback models, is anything in VRC actually made by VRC?

[brisk herald]

As far as I can tell, the developers egos won't let them admit this

[brisk herald]

I doubt it

[lyric eagle]

The entire backbone and tools necessary to creat anything in the entire game?

Udon and the entire vrchat sdk? I'm not sure if you know how much is added in the sdks to create content

[wind island]

Does OVRS still even work? and playspace?
i mean like content. Comparing mods to part of the content in the game, not the backend

[lyric eagle]

Yes, ovras and playzone manipulation work fine. They don't interact with the VRC Client

[lime umbra]

yes yes yes... user created content but they also have a TOS which most people blatantly ignored (good or bad reasons.) You can still make stuff. Just follow TOS. And now people are mad they put an anti cheat? At least NOW they are moving FFW on getting things done, and that is something to be grateful about. Its not that big of a deal. Im happy to see the other social VR platforms stepping up their development too. I see good things coming for everyone (from an optimistic perspective.)

[wind island]

in the grand sceme of things Mods should be treated the same as custom worlds and custom avatars. All a part of content in a social game.

[rigid crescent]

CVR has always been the "better" option, it's been there for what? Almost over a year and people say they're gonna move and never did or came back. As backwards as it sounds being the better game doesn't matter as much as you think.

[lyric eagle]

What do you mean BY vrc? You speak like vrchat itself is some being of some kind, there are staff members on currently that generate content, but most of them are focused on helping US generate content and experience the game. That's the whole idea

[rigid crescent]

Sorry almost two years.

[wind island]

Just the game and developers i guess. Like if I talk about "wow" its the game and the dev team behind it

[lyric eagle]

WoW isn't a game that relies on user generated content. It wouldn't make sense to create things when the goal of the game is to let users make their own things

[main scaffold]

just got a stupid account warning

[wind island]

And im not saying that to disparage the developers, I mean it in the sence that the players make world content, avatar content, and mod content. Without playwer made things there would be no VRC

[lyric eagle]

Right, so why would vrchat devs waste time making things outside of the tools and worlds necessary to help people make their own things?

[vocal shard]

got a point

[wind island]

the whole EAC would be a much different situation if VRC was a game wholy made of official avatars/maps/game modes

[versed idol]

Agree, without the resources and ability for outside users to use unity to make stuff for there game is crazy, never heard of it before. It is great

[lyric eagle]

EAC was only implemented to prevent massive client usage by PC users. It was not made for any other reason. Notice how "preventing mod usage" isn't mentioned one time in the update log

[wind island]

Not making them nessisary, but allowing them. You dont "need" mods to play WoW or other games. but they are worse without them

[main scaffold]

the performance booster

[rigid crescent]

I wouldn't say WoW is worse without mods, it's a different game is all.

[wind island]

if a mod breaks from a VRC update the VRC team doesnt need to do anything. Its on the mod creaters to keep pace

[vocal shard]

tbh people just need to give them time i understand some issue they say like lag they had mods help lag issue and all that but they are trying there best?

[versed idol]

👍

[wind island]

I apreciate the attempt to add back in things lost from mods. But VRC without mods is objectively worse the VRC that allows mods. You dont HAVE to use mods but you would always have the option.

[lyric eagle]

Malicious client usage is a mod. I've already explained why that's not agreeable

[vocal shard]

then there whole oh fav avatars more that but honestly reason why vrc+ was also made to get you that like they done this for free for years like some need to grow up

[lyric eagle]

I think having a steam workshop page would be helpful, but gathering a team to approve and test all the features generated by users a very daunting task.

[tepid burrow]

ow my brain

[wind island]

this would be a good middleground

[lyric eagle]

I agree, but again, very daunting task. If I could guess, it would require 3+ employees on its own, if not more

[wind island]

Im not a tech person, but if its just an issue of mods being a launcher and steam workshop could work that would be fine. Loosing all playermade customizability is bad

[acoustic gyro]

anyone know some fun game worlds that is singleplayer friendly?

[vocal shard]

but image over 73k people making stuff and having short team to approve or decline

[rigid crescent]

They'd need to have a system in place to even make and allow mods which is another resource issue.

[lyric eagle]

It's mostly due to the fact that modification to the client leads to a bad experience for the majority of the player base (quest users). That's why they removed the ability to do so.

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, there was a time when all worlds were manual checked upon first upload. Imagining something similar now would be insane.

[versed idol]

The issue is that I am sure they have to rewrite there game because steam workshop adds files to the actual game files unlike vrc it is all networked base(api)

[acoustic gyro]

or worlds i can just mess around in, like a shooting range or something

[crude tangle]

Can anyone help me my finger tracking no longer works on VR chat and only VR chat

[lyric eagle]

Try closer to 500,000 people

[tepid burrow]

what if vrc hired the modders who helped improved the game would that do anything

[lyric eagle]

Because they don't need them. They have the ability and knowledge to add said features themselves. Look at the new open beta! They added 3 of the biggest features that mods had within days, and just as good as mods ever did it.

[versed idol]

The modder just has to apply on there site

[wind island]

I just hope we dont have to wait a year to get the game back to how it was last week.

[lyric eagle]

Bro we already have 3 of the most important features we had last week in the open beta

[wind island]

there are hundreds of mods. And some so niche theyll never be added again

[versed idol]

Keeping 500000 people happy is difficult, but the game is much better than the past 5 years. One better UI/world creations/avatar creations/ hold a mass amount of people with less lag.

[lyric eagle]

And many players can live without them. Over 150 of those mods were malicious, I'd bet

[wind island]

Players dont have the agency to improve things on thier own, we have to just petition and beg the devs for improvements now is the main issue

[brisk herald]

They need to remove EAC. Above and beyond the .od block They used it for, it's a Spyware cluster fuck that exposes the kernel of your PC to those with malicious intent. It bypasses any firewalls or protections you have in place.

[main scaffold]

when the hp omen optimiser is classed as a lethal mod and you get a 2 week ban

[lyric eagle]

They won't remove eac, you're just wasting your time complaining about it now. If you want new features, request them or make a group to ask for them.

[versed idol]

Behind there mods can be malicious intent, but not even have the vrc players actual opened to see if it contains anything.

[wind island]

The only main malicious stuff ive ever encounterd in VRC have just been avatars, not even mods

[lyric eagle]

Don't forget pickup manipulators, particle crashers, audio spoofs

[worthy helm]

Didn't get crashed once last night in pubs all night 👍 big W

[versed idol]

Jo do you know if there friendly contain any activity, have you actual opened the source files to see or do you hope

[lyric eagle]

Many quest users complained about pickup manipulation specifically.

[wind island]

I dont download random mods, if thats whatyou are asking

[tepid burrow]

yeah that was a big issue

[versed idol]

Jo I believe most of there mods help but some people are smart and will take advantage of a good opportunity

[lyric eagle]

Which has now been solved! Its very hard to make a client that's big enough to do udon manipulation that can bypass eac

[wind island]

I honestly only mainly used scale goes brr for resizing and some visual improvements

[versed idol]

I dont either dont trust them.

[lyric eagle]

I would also like this reimplemented. I've thought about making a group to petition the addition of it.

[brisk herald]

I'm aware of this, and it's why I'm leaving VRC. I have accounts set up in both CVR and Neos. I'm favoring CVR for their adult and reasonable stance on NSFW. Their requirement is only to tag it appropriately. It's anything VRC was always squirrely about

[wind island]

thats the problem, niche use mods we just have to beg to get back or we are SOL, even though they already exist now

[versed idol]

Wolf no need to announce it to everyone have a good time and hope you come back

[lyric eagle]

Why are you ruining our community with your complaints if you've already decided to leave?

[tepid burrow]

If CVR goes in the right direction there will be another outlet for vr which is nice but majority of the community isnt going to leave vrchat as much they say they will cause they'll be coming back

[wind island]

a good thing would be CVR getting more poular. I wont ever move over, but competition will force VCR to be more mindful of the game and community

[tepid burrow]

agreed

[lyric eagle]

Agreed

[versed idol]

That game still alive?

[lyric eagle]

I hope that cvr doesn't suffer the same fate neos did after the crossplay update. Hundreds flocked, they spent time and resources improving their game, and then it died less than a month later.

[tepid burrow]

Yes

[wind island]

they have no real chance right now of losing a lot of people because of lack of big options, so they can tell the community to f off all they want and they wont really feel any pressure

[brisk herald]

Ruining? Elitist or something? I have every bit of a right to voice my complaints here as anyone else. If you have a pro5with this, too bad.

[lyric eagle]

I'm just asking. You 100% have that right. What's the purpose of complaining about something you've already decided to abandon?

[versed idol]

I agree with wolf they are speaking there opinions but sometimes better not say things at all and of people know your upset..

[wind island]

best thing to do honestly is to just try and gather people you know to quit. Posting here will just get a ban eventually

[brisk herald]

Because I can, and despite the odds, I still am an optimist that maybe, just maybe they will actually listen.

[wind island]

best case enough people have canceled vrc+ that they actually will notice it

[brisk herald]

One thing I have been is civil.

[lyric eagle]

They've stayed multiple times that theyve listened to critique, but won't revoke the update

[versed idol]

Wolf, yes but no chat wants negative content

[cyan falcon]

Hi

[brisk herald]

They don't need to tevoke the entire update, just EAC.

[lyric eagle]

If you really want them to listen to you, here is not the place for you to make your voice heard.

[tepid burrow]

You must remember things don't happen overnight, it will take time as all things do. The dev team has to work around things and you don't know the legal stuff they had to do with EAC so they can't just drop it overnight

[brisk herald]

If they do, then I'll probably return.

[cyan falcon]

Most people think taking a chunk of coding is SUPER easy lol

[versed idol]

It will not happen this is a big security thing and will protect the game in the future hopefully. With no protection at all it could get worse with how big vrc has gotten in the past years.

[wind island]

doubt its possible, but someone sugested there be EAC launcher for people who wana play on that, and a normal launcher. Nether servers interact with eachother. Most likely not something that could work but i guess its a better chance then them revoking EAC. The reason they posted it so fast was to get the drama out of the way as fast as possible

[brisk herald]

I've been quite noisy on all of their outlets, along with many others.

[tepid burrow]

Don't get your hopes up cause i doubt it'll happen

[cyan falcon]

Dead horse beaters won't listen.

[brisk herald]

Other platforms have listened to their players and have revoked EAC.

[lyric eagle]

Right, then I only ask you to keep it on the outlets where change is actually possible. Lots of us are sick of complaining here

[wind island]

i feel like the chances of an actual EAC reversion is the same as a mobile game revoking thier cash shop

[cyan falcon]

A lot of us are sick of seeing the "Remove Eac" they said they won't so stfu, if ya aren't happy then move on gd

[brisk herald]

Problem is that it has already been established as a trash program that solves nothing, and actually creates problems. The developers will be learning this the hard way

[tepid burrow]

everything comes with problems, but this is a improvement for quest users who are the majority on Vrchat

[wind island]

im assuming the devs dont look at discord, so if you wana do something find whatever channel they use for feedback and get people to just keep posting or w/e. Doubt it will help at this point.

[tepid burrow]

Nothing is perfect, but yall have to chill out on demonizing the devs

[versed idol]

WOLFY, that is to far, there is a list to follow and precious mods it not one of them, they probably need to implement a system to allow them like Udon. But if not careful it could be dangerous. Look at MC for example a modder destroyed many peoples stuff YTFITMC.

[brisk herald]

Given the overwhelming majority of quest users are children, they would have been better off segregating them to their own server. Kids are probably the most annoying thing within VRC.

[frank silo]

Sure if you don't use virtual desktop and don't mind your information going out to more companies

[versed idol]

Wolfy if you upset how the game is going apply to VRC and see from the inside how hard it is to create a social game such as VRC.

[tepid burrow]

Then the adults on quest would have to suffer

[tepid burrow]

You act like most the software we use doesn't track us

[cyan falcon]

If you hang out with a chill person the sure

[frank silo]

I know it does. But I'd rather not have the Chinese government have full access to my pc files

[brisk herald]

Track, I'm aware,. Open up and bypass your security, I have an issue with

[cyan falcon]

Let them create their own since they think network code is So easy

[versed idol]

Wolfy it's a social game but it is not there fault. KIDS are sometimes dumb and get into things they should not get into. Also some parents dont monitor this kids. Also vrc is an NOT 18+ game. Roblox deals with stuff like this with adults playing with kids with bad intent.(not always true but experienced it first hand) the only way to separate kids from adults is to show license(roblox) but this is vulnerable to privacy. Wolf you can dm me and I can show proof of this. Added "You must be at least 13 years of age to use the Platform" VRC

[wind island]

solution if you hear a kid just auto block them

[cyan falcon]

Tsadly even if they made an 18+ button for worlds, kids would still find a way to get in

[brisk herald]

They gave their digital middle finger to the disabled using their platform.

[versed idol]

I agree

[tepid burrow]

Roblox did add a id verification and kids still sometime bypass it but rarely but it was nice but i doubt the whole vrc community would be comfortable with that lol

[versed idol]

A destruction to privacy

[wind island]

Also sticking to public worlds that are PC only cuts out a lot of kids on quests

[tepid burrow]

You didn't have to do it though 🤷‍♂️

[brisk herald]

I'm not saying they should be barred from VRC. They just need their own play area. Second Life handled this well.

[cyan falcon]

I wouldn't because their are kids I'm aware of that go on vrc to get away from their mentally abusive parents and its like a cop for them

[vocal shard]

they can play rec room

[tepid burrow]

True, Like adults kids also use vrc to escape reality

[lyric eagle]

This is incredibly biased and a really bad idea, especially in a game about content creation.

[tepid burrow]

Rec room is full of screaming kids and it's chaos, as much as there more interactive games then vrc it's just a overall different

[cyan falcon]

Exactly, one of them I know likes to go into relax worlds because he has ptsd due to his parents

[vocal shard]

im saying for children needing an escape they can go there

[tepid burrow]

I consider Rec Room the amusement park of VR

[brisk herald]

World tagging would open up such spaces to them.

[vocal shard]

i dont agree with children being allowed but on vrc

[lyric eagle]

World tagging is a very good idea

[wind island]

It would be nice to have a 18+ world type at some point though. I "think" crv does it. instead of blocking them from the game

[tepid burrow]

I don't either but considering VRC is 13+ there isnt much we can do

[cyan falcon]

I've talked to him about rec room, he doesn't like it because the other screaming kids make the ptsd worse.

[lyric eagle]

I think some form of opt-in for ID verification would be nice. Sending in your driver's license or ID and having them validate it. The process would take them a few days per user but it would be worth it I think

[tepid burrow]

CVR also as a separate DLC for NSFW stuff which is nice

[vocal shard]

ive seen a literal 10yo on vrc

[lyric eagle]

It's another long future addition though, implementing at that scale is hard. CVR has so many features since it was such a small game

[tepid burrow]

Roblox does this, only takes a couple hours depending on your id

[wind island]

Right now, before vrc shit the bed this week, wed run events where youd need to age veryify on discord to get an invite link. and if you fail the checkpoint get auto blocked

[vocal shard]

thisssssss

[versed idol]

I cant remember what questions it asked me when making an account but did it ask for age?

[lyric eagle]

Wow! That's actually impressive for their size, but the scale of their company is very large I'm sure.

[wind island]

public worlds will always be a shitshow or tossup

[brisk herald]

Kinda. They're a lot more relaxed and realize they're going to have users who want mature content. You can upload a "NSFW" avatar in there, and the only requirement is to tag it appropriately. There are filters in the preferences to block the content. Imold A.F., so don't know how age verification interacts with the tags.

[versed idol]

But it not the kids that make it a shitshow it all the crashers

[tepid burrow]

it's only for voicechat and teens still get in but the feature was post to be only 18+ but people were complaining and roblox likes to make money off of people so they bumped it down to 13+ verification but most teens dont have a id till like age 15 so it kinda worked out but there still are annoying teens but you run into more adults in VC

[brisk herald]

You're still required to do mature things In Private instances

[cyan falcon]

Maybe an ID thing for 18+ worlds or something, the kids that use vrc for relaxation shouldn't be taken out for their own mental health

[wind island]

i duno, shreeking children are anoying. or someone butting into a conversation they are way to young to be around

[vocal shard]

there’s alternative games they can play. vrc should be 16+ at the minimum

[dense vessel]

Today on VRChat was terrible! I kept crashing out and getting timed out from worlds multiple times, even from the same world I was In. Switching worlds don't even fix the problem.

[versed idol]

If kids are smart they will get parents ID if that

[tepid burrow]

they have, but you need to take a photo of yourself so

[brisk herald]

I'm not advocating to ban them. They just need to be denied access to the adult themed worlds

[versed idol]

Agree

[cyan falcon]

Well I agree to that, them not being accessible to 18+ worlds like nsfw clubs. But I've been reading and some just want children gone completely from vrc

[versed idol]

For roblox?

[tepid burrow]

Yes, you need to take a picture of your current face and also your id back and front i believe

[versed idol]

Ghost you cant play vrc then Sadge

[tepid burrow]

I havent touch roblox VC since i got into it when it first came out but i remember having to verify that way

[brisk herald]

This would have been a smarter update

[versed idol]

Another one bites the dust

[lyric eagle]

Agreed. 18+ worlds that only people who have been verified with IDs can meet

[lyric eagle]

And a much harder update to implement. Much much harder.

[tepid burrow]

True but most people are gonna go against it

[versed idol]

An ID has alot of personal info on it so I am wary with giving out to third party companies I have never spoken to.

[lyric eagle]

Very true!

[stone sleet]

i think that +18 content it's totally innecesary in a social vr game in the first place

[versed idol]

True and false at times

[lyric eagle]

I very much agree with this as well. If you want to participate in lewd shit, be willing to give your information. Not like you're not ID'ed in clubs

[cyan falcon]

I am okay with the idea ID long as people aren't just saying "kick the kids out completely "

[versed idol]

Ipik I agree but people would say this is segregation and bs about it

[wind island]

i mean thats why I never go to public worlds is to avoid kids. have to step on egshells to not say something inapropriate

[tepid burrow]

Not all kids are bad, it's just some you can tell their parents just threw a headset and went to go drink wine in a different room, people should really watch what their kids are doing cause in the long term someone is going to get hurt

[wind island]

or if you go to a public and hear kids just block them

[lyric eagle]

Eh, I tend to just not give a shit. It's the internet, kids have heard worse.

[versed idol]

It is not just in vrc but IRL to Sadge

[signal plaza]

You say my kids can't get educated by random people in the Internet so I don't have to raise a child? No way

[lyric eagle]

I'm just not about to strip in a public world with kids everywhere.

[restive estuary]

You know what, that’s too good of an analogy

[tepid burrow]

automatically block kids if theyre annoying but if theyre just doing their own thing i let them be as long as no one is harassing them cause some adults think they can bully kids online cause their behind a headset

[cyan falcon]

I have younger ones that hang out with me (young teens) because I'm their vr mom when their parents are being mentally abusive

[versed idol]

DISKO your suspose to be in private

[lyric eagle]

Obviously, that's what I just said

[versed idol]

Diso misread

[wind island]

I just think its creepy if an adult is seen around kids in VR. gives bad vibes

[cyan falcon]

Exactly, there a wonderful kids with bright personalities, but shitty parents makes them feel like shit and vrc is their eacape

[versed idol]

Jo I agree I dont want to effect them negativity in any way and something's can be said that they might get the wrong idea

[tepid burrow]

yeah i agree but ive seen some protect kids from adults that are hostile but it is def a weird thing to see when it's someone grooming a child

[wind island]

its differnt in like an MMO, but being around kids in VR makes me feel like im some creep hanging out at a middle school

[tepid burrow]

I def think adults should warn children on this game about the dangers of vrc but shouldnt control them like a parent

[brisk herald]

Agreed, and the devs knowingly enable this very thing

[versed idol]

Its vr you can actually see them on just on a monitor also if you have tracking interact.

[tepid burrow]

def shouldnt let them go into a strip club though but def not act like a parent but honestly just wish vrc wasnt 13+ it's weird with all the suggestive worlds that are on the front page

[versed idol]

Public is public to all ages matter the world

[wind island]

friends+ was the closest to public world id ever go to

[brisk herald]

This is why I've complained repeatedly about their refusal to limit where they can be

[tepid burrow]

i agree esp with the substance use on this game it's crazy

[wind island]

i mean to be fair can always lie to. and i dont think VRC has a moderator team investigating things

[lyric eagle]

in theory, their refusal to limit where they can be comes down to the fact that if everyone followed the rules, they wouldnt NEED to be limited.

[versed idol]

Wolfy most of us have just have to give it time. I expect the dev team did not expect VRC to blow up so fast 5 years is actually short. Also quest did not help but it is great for people who dont have much money.

[tepid burrow]

there's no way this is a 13+ game like absolutely with the suggestive theme at place like Just b club and other places its screaming 18+

[lyric eagle]

if they changed the rules to state that people with verified accounts over 18 would be able to participate in NSFW content/events, their standpoint would 100% change.

[wind island]

Also i wouldnt hold your breath for "new" features atm. Gona be a while till we get things added to where we are back to 0

[brisk herald]

This is why you have age verification and world tagging, or alternatively a portal you go through in the beginning that is for adults only. If you aren't old enough, the portal is invisible to you.

[versed idol]

I think the dev's priority is to stop crashers who ruin the game just a thought then maybe privacy type stuff later

[wind island]

and i dont think any instance limiting like that was ever in vrc

[lyric eagle]

exactly. but again, rules say no 18+ things so the age verification shouldnt be needed

[versed idol]

Wolf but do you really read the tags when joining a world I just join because of the image(could be just me)

[lyric eagle]

if they change these rules, im sure age verification would be introduced. It's very unlikely that would happen though

[brisk herald]

It's been said repeatedly, but they should have worked with the users to address the reasons for the mods, make in house corrections, and then use an actual good working program to limit mods if they really had that much of an issue with it.

[lyric eagle]

it has also been iterated repeatedly as to how hard this is to do. Its not in their best interest right now.

[brisk herald]

Tagging is for the program to use, not a user read thing.

[versed idol]

This would give bad modders time to start finding loop holes. I would say announcing the use of anticheat is good but also bad.

[brisk herald]

It was an expensive choice of priorities on their part

[lyric eagle]

what do you mean by that

[wind island]

id assume the hopefull loss of a lot of vrc+

[brisk herald]

The issue I have with EAC is the deep Spyware and bypassing of pc protection

[brisk herald]

Pissing off their user base.

[versed idol]

I dont know if someone has it on standby but there is a flowchart of everything they want to add it remember from 3 years ago of something

Wolf I have never heard of anything but not a pc guru, I am sure epic uses it too I have seen it used before and had no issues

[lyric eagle]

i dont think angering a small part of their userbase and losing less than 8% of their total traffic in order to significantly improve the experience for the majority of their userbase was that expensive of a choice

[versed idol]

You win some... you loose some the way the cookie crumbles

[brisk herald]

The mod that apparently shall not be named brought VRC a lot of subscriptions

[versed idol]

Qo*

[lyric eagle]

youd be surprised how many vrc+ users are on quest.

[brisk herald]

Not really. Basic account is seriously limiting

[lyric eagle]

and all vrc+ did for the funny pink catgirl plugin was give 25% more avatars

[wind island]

Hope they dont end up paywalling old mods behing VRC+

[tepid burrow]

people think this whole eac thing made VRC lose tons of people but this was only a small dent, There was no dip in traffic to the game

[old trellis]

Would not be surprised tbh

[lyric eagle]

yes, and no quest users cancelled their subscriptions. Why would they? this update helped them.

[wind island]

some quest users cant play because the the virtual desktop stuff

[old trellis]

Ngl I got crashed by an avatar yesterday so yeah... EAC didn't do much

[versed idol]

Wolfy you on quest or Index/valve feel free not to answer

[lyric eagle]

hell, lots of pc people didnt buy vrc+ because mods allowed them to have more favorites. If anything there will be people buying vrc+ for avatars

@wind island This is only on the oculus suite, the issue isnt present on steamvr and we are talking about standalone quest users.

[tepid burrow]

EAC only prevented client crashers, avatar crashers are still going to be a thing

[old trellis]

Yikes. 10/10 worth the community backlash /s

[versed idol]

You can add way too many particles bones vertices anything can crash a users from avatar

[brisk herald]

I've seen plenty of quest user complaints from not being able to load and crashing

[tepid burrow]

EAC is like a double edged sword and arent they adding a particle limiter?

[lyric eagle]

good thing they added a particle limiter! hopefully they have more things for bones and verts soon.

[wind island]

id assume there were prob a lot of people who played a lot like me that got it as a way to be able to support the game. VRC+ was never worth the money for what you actually got. More of a support system as it stands right now

[versed idol]

But that is why there is safety settings in place just use them

[lyric eagle]

and ive seen plenty of quest users complain about pens and pillows flying around the world and being teleported by client users. New clients cant do those features, as it would be very hard to implement while still allowing them to bypass eac

[brisk herald]

PC linked Quest2. I'm actually looking at upgrading to the index and adding FBT. I want all fingers usable as I have a deaf friend and want to learn andbe able to use ASL inworld

[versed idol]

Wolf that is amazing hope it goes well

[tepid burrow]

i did ASL with the quest and it was fun to learn, but i wish you luck wolf on your journey

[wind island]

if you want FBT id save for index. I used FBT on my quest 2, but calibration everytime you boot up is a pain in the ass. worth the cost difference. Especially since you need to buy the index base stations anyway

Index u dont have to calibrate everytime

[versed idol]

Wolf you have a good enough pc to run index though?

[lyric eagle]

any pc that can run quest can run index just fine

[brisk herald]

Yeah, quest and FBT are a fight, which is playing into sprining for the index

[brisk herald]

My machine is a gaming beast. I spared no expense on the build.

[wind island]

theres honestly barely a visual difference between the index and quest 2 at this point.

[versed idol]

Jo really. What about latency

[tribal geode]

Hey everyone.

[lyric eagle]

less compression, more fov, similar perceived resolution, no latency

[wind island]

but for VRC the index fingers are so much better. Not sure, i used my Quest 2 with the link untill i got my index. never used the airlink

[tepid burrow]

doesn't that all depend on your side? like your internet?

[tribal geode]

Same.

[lyric eagle]

index will always have less latency. just the compression and decompression of the image takes time.

[tepid burrow]

i see

[wind island]

If you never care about fullbody id quest 2 with link. Fullbody 100% the index

thats assuming youd wana save money over an index

[versed idol]

Star yes . I don own either so I cant see for sure. I have a oculus vive.

[brisk herald]

Easily. I'm one processor below the top AMD Ryzen threadripper processor. Memory is maxed out and am running an Invidia Titan RTX GPU, this which will be upgraded to the 4090Ti when it's released

[lyric eagle]

wut? HTC Vive you mean?

[versed idol]

WOLFY what an over kill

Disko yes

[brisk herald]

I wanted a 10 year machine. I'm only upgrading the video card because my Partners is on very borrowed time, and I'm paying for the replacement. If I get to pay, I get the mew shiny

[lyric eagle]

no machine can be a 10 year machine sadly.

[wind island]

since you seem to be in the know with the VRC team stuff, are they going to post another list of fixes today?

[brisk herald]

Wanna bet? LOL

[lyric eagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNo7qoLRtkQ&t=473s

[versed idol]

Wolf it depends on if these new and old game developers want to optimize their game and not make it a terabyte download(over exaggerating)

[lyric eagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PWFdA9pxNk&t=240s

I would absolutely love to bet that a 10 year old system cant exist. Id bet on a "10 year system!"

[versed idol]

GPU is limited to the cpu and motherboard. So make sense

[lyric eagle]

im a very big fan of old computer hardware

[versed idol]

DISKO, did you ever have a pc with windows vista?

[brisk herald]

My Partner did ax10 year build. It lasted every bit of it and spec wise still outclassed anything on the shelf NY a wide margin. We bought a new motherboard and processor last fall after his video card tore the slot off of the motherboard. The GPU was damaged in the failure. We actually reused everything except the processor in the replacement. GPU started overheating running VR, so we slated it to be replaced

[lyric eagle]

yes! my first ever pc handed down from my dad did

[versed idol]

Same

[lyric eagle]

just watch the videos I posted, unless you're playing very VERY resource light games its not really possible

[versed idol]

the effect of how pc are made are affected by the economy so things can easily change but you do you.

[brisk herald]

I've seen that video. My Partners machine was a higher spec build than that one.

[versed idol]

Wolf just becareful where you put your beans they can easily become rotten if not treated right

[lyric eagle]

thats the most powerful graphics card and the most powerful cpu combo a consumer could buy at the time...

[brisk herald]

Nvidia 1090 was around then.

[lyric eagle]

the nvidia 1090 isnt a real card.

and the 1000 series cards only came out in 2016.

[brisk herald]

Funny as I've actually had my own paws on it

[lyric eagle]

damn crazy nobody else on the entire planet has

[brisk herald]

He built it before we met.

[tepid burrow]

[lyric eagle]

i mean the card still doesnt exist

its a bit obvious that you're lying at this point, so i wont entertain the idea anymore

[tepid burrow]

[brisk herald]

I'll Take the picture when I get home from work

[lyric eagle]

[trail sparrow]

Hi

[tepid burrow]

hello

[versed idol]

yo

[lyric eagle]

sup

[trail sparrow]

How has everyone's day been going

[tepid burrow]

people still talkin about EAC in the main chat huh

[wind island]

we know if another update is going out today?

[lyric eagle]

yeah, not too surprised.

probably not, Johaad. Itll be another week or two before we get more stuff, if not longer. The next update will have the new main menu and I expect it some time in august.

[tepid burrow]

not that i know of, unless theyre still doing damage control

[wind island]

damn

[tepid burrow]

been decent wby

[wind island]

guess alls to do now if wait for the fixes to get caught up

[trail sparrow]

It's be ok

[versed idol]

Have to go to work, Take care all. Wolfy good luck in your future endeavors.

[tepid burrow]

take care killer

[lyric eagle]

yeah shes about to buy a 4100ti with 69gb of vram and 420gb of ddr6 ram

[wind island]

is there a threashold of votes that will make the devs actually notice a feedback post. trying to pass stuff around and wondering if its even worth the time if it only gets a few hundred votes

[versed idol]

We just have to wait and see HUH

[tepid burrow]

pretty sure there is on reddit lol

[lyric eagle]

if any post gets even a third as much as the top canny post for EAC, they will definitely look into ways of implementing it.

@tepid burrow VRC actually has no official affiliation with the VRC subreddit

[wind island]

i mean on whatever feedback thing was linked earlier. dont use redit

[tepid burrow]

i see mb

[lyric eagle]

its fine i thought it did too until all this eac shit

[tepid burrow]

I guess the EAC stuff has revealed more stuff

[lyric eagle]

it definitely has

[tepid burrow]

Didnt even know about the mods that helped people who are mute or deaf

[wind island]

i wish they had a longer time before having a beta to live lol. I droped a few hundred on avatar worked right before the whole fiasco thats now worthles

[umbral reef]

They dont really reply when they have decided on something to keep expectations low
(Unless its bug reports or highly specific suggestions that are fairly technical. Then they often explain why/what is happening).
Even if a post has 10 votes the devs can read it and consider it.

[tepid burrow]

agreed they kinda just dropped it out of no where

[lyric eagle]

i mean are you no longer playing vrc? theyre plenty worth it if you keep playing vrc

[brisk herald]

Thanks and be safe at work

[wind island]

ive calmed down but damn, tues/thursday this week i almost just delted my account and ever avatar file i had

spent prob a few grand this year and now need to pray for an update to be able to play again

[tepid burrow]

rip, good thing you didnt let your emotions get the best of you

[wind island]

yea. and im 0% chance gona more money importing to something like CVR for the chance of the same thing happening again

[tepid burrow]

yeah i'm just keeping my eyes on CVR, I have a account on there but i won't be leaving VRC

it's very interesting to watch what people say in the main chat

[wind island]

yea. i made sure to keep my actual "Reeee"ing out of this discord to not get banned or shit it up more

[tepid burrow]

I mean it seems to have calmed down

[wind island]

only on here because i cant be in actual VRC lol. All the discords im in events are canceled for the forseeable future atm

[tepid burrow]

due to EAC?

[vocal shard]

Is VRChat still in chaos

[wind island]

mods being gone. Lot of us use things like scale goes brr. And even those that didnt the update killed the vibe of everyone wanting to play. I dont think anyone i know gives a shit about EAC itself, just the lack of mods

[tepid burrow]

somewhat, just people saying their leaving till EAC is removed which isn't going to happen like their opinion matters to the devs at this point after they screamed and leaked one of their info

[wind island]

90% of my vrc gameplay has been without mods. but the last few months of mods, loosing them feels like going from playing a ps5 game to a ps1 game

[tepid burrow]

Yeah now everything is vanilla so it's a bit boring for people who used mods to enhanced the experience

[wind island]

All my avatars had been built and updated recently with mods in mind. And i have 0% interest in playing with public models, or paying more money to "fix" my models and wait for them to hopefully update the viewpoint

[tepid burrow]

I hope they do, a lot of different things depended on mods and in no way do i hate people who use mods to enhance their experience but there seems to be a rift in the community with people who support EAC and others who support mods

[wind island]

the issue is mods not EAC itself. i think people complaining about whatever eac does is just a little cope. if you could run it with a mod client noone would care

[tepid burrow]

yeah, i agree cause no one would bat an eye if didn't effect them but i feel like people are using disabled people as a weapon cause they lost their ability to do certain things which im starting to see in the main chat

[wind island]

id feel gross trying to play vrc right now to support it. but the truth is theres not enough people quiting for real to make a difference

if this had gone live 3 months ago before scalegoesbrr came out i wouldnt have given a shit.

[tepid burrow]

Yeah, plus majority don't care enough they just want to do their own thing, it's the reason why i don't want to move straight over to CRV cause what is there to do rn

[kind jackal]

When ever i play neos or vrchat the game crash everytime when im in a public session for around 5 min or so
When that happens discord and google chrome crash also
task manager says gpu is at 100%
been using vr for around 2 years never had this happen

[wind island]

not sure. your PC overheating maybe?

[kind jackal]

No not overheating
This also happen after the vrchat update
and i just dowloaded neos yesterday got crashed a few times some lobbies worked some others mostly did not

[wind island]

sounds like more of a PC thing than a game thing. If its neos and vrc maybe a steam vr issue

[kind jackal]

steam vr seems to work great its just when i launch vrchat and join a public lobbie
or start playing neos and join a public lobbie
and both games gpu is at 100%

[uneven jasper]

when I turn on howl now, it takes a very long time to load and I'm not the only one. please correct it

[wind island]

not sure tbh

[grizzled tangle]

I love kim wexlers feet

[wispy turtle]

I love kim wexlers feet

[grizzled tangle]

Preach brother

[bold flame]

hi

[pseudo citrus]

all about the all mighty mid drift.

[warm lantern]

awagga

[vast halo]

@vocal shard is my personal tupper-lover and we personally agree that EAC is a very good update for the Virtual Reality Chat platform

[vocal shard]

YEAAA

[peak mauve]

based

[vocal shard]

we slayed

[vast halo]

@peak mauve is also my other personal tupper lover and half-agrees that EAC is a very good update for the Virtual Reality Chat platform

[peak mauve]

I fully agree that this update is good tbh, it's just the other people that ruin it

[vocal shard]

we stan @peak mauve

[vast halo]

we stan senkodev

my favorite ukrainain (jk my favorite is actually this childhood friend of mine i've known since he was like 10)

[vocal shard]

we stan

shrek is the best waifu

[vast halo]

@peak mauve is shrek irl i know it

[vocal shard]

lorax is better.

[peak mauve]

lmao

[vast halo]

they showed me face reveal and i saw my princess Shrek <3

[vocal shard]

i hate the trees, only shrek

[peak mauve]

what about fiona tho

[vast halo]

@peak mauve hi fiona

fiona dezz nuts

[vocal shard]

i already got the boys on there way over to watch shrek

[thorny nacelle]

!online

[vocal shard]

go away

[junior moon]

Omg ChilloutVR is amazing soooo much better than VRCHAT

[thorny nacelle]

Wtf

[peak mauve]

#bottalk or https://api.vrchat.cloud/api/1/visits

[vocal shard]

was a joke btw love u

[thorny nacelle]

I did it in french tchat lol x)

[vocal shard]

disagree, if you’re upset about the update you’re more than likely a malicious mod user. ive talked to several people who used mods to help them play the game and they said that the new features are neat and that they r going to continue playing vrchat.