vrchat-general-2

[noble oracle]

Ngl better call sual(?) is mid

[quasi iris]

Gus told me

[shy hill]

ngl i always say im gonna be in public worlds or meeting new people but im gonna end up passed out after drunk cuddling a friend before any of that

[bold sable]

roblos

[noble oracle]

Phantom forces is pretty fun imo really grindy tho

[compact tapir]

yooo thats basically what i do, but ive been tryin to cut back on the drinking, i un-ironically become an alcoholic for about a year. But im still down to go to public worlds and be dumb

[rigid cargo]

Dang it

[bold sable]

play vibe cafe they also have vr there

[manic sigil]

Its just a game bro relax

[noble oracle]

I've been binge watching bleach the anime for a while now im on season 8 episode 141

[bold sable]

vibe cafe

[livid orbit]

I really just enjoy games that i can get really high and have a great time on

[rigid cargo]

QUESTION! Does touching grass in vr count?

[noble oracle]

LOOOOL

[livid mountain]

It's a form of reality so in a way, yes

[rigid cargo]

Sick 😎 good to know it’s a consensus lmao

[bold mason]

Only if you have the haptic feedback ||mod||

[rigid cargo]

God I want to buy the haptic vests thing for vrchat but I’d have to make avatars specific for it TwT

[thick adder]

Hey VRC devs.. nice fucking work on the EAC fuckery. Launch error. and been working 2½ hours to get ti to work.. and still no go.. meh

[noble oracle]

Go to general 1

[molten delta]

stfu

[rigid cargo]

puts out match dang it

[nova tiger]

Cope

[thick adder]

Ill butn all the houses i want. Just want to fix this. so I can get on..

[molten delta]

yo the d1ck ridding is crazy

[shy hill]

because why not

[nova tiger]

Because it's literally only furries and degenerates complaining about this. and I'm laughing at it all.

[exotic flicker]

vrchat was always full of furries

[nova tiger]

Continue huffing that copium lol.

[polar orchid]

Furries and weebs were always vrchat's main audience. Of the two, furries are more likely to have income for a vr headset

[rigid cargo]

Ew imagine being a furry says someone who uses furry avatars because they track very well

[visual crystal]

i mean that’s an interesting pov

[thorny bloom]

True, wanna play?

[exotic flicker]

i dont know why but for some reason all furries are just stacked with cash

[polar orchid]

Nah i have to cope with the fact that i woke up and am still alive

[shy hill]

i mean at least the furry conventions in vrchat dont smell bad

[open birch]

TRUE

[long stump]

we run the world from behind the scenes!!

[rigid cargo]

Furries are always suspiciously wealthy

[quasi iris]

Not all, but yes there are a lot of them that work in high-income jobs

[nova tiger]

I'm simply watching a bad game die out because the devs shot themselves in the foot with a bad decision.

[polar orchid]

Also the Competing Brand™ is having a workshop on how to use their software in two hours and i wanna catch that

[visual crystal]

can we have a furry convention in just some random ass dennys like i’d pay to see that

[long stump]

... maybe we have a lot to apologize for

[exotic flicker]

broke people dont have the luxury of being a degenerate

[quasi iris]

Are you the reason I can never find my keys?

[shy hill]

furries are creative too i mean we kinda have to be so vrchat is appealing

[long stump]

disappointingly, yes 😦

[arctic wind]

Have you guys heard about chillout vr?

[honest valley]

the amount of stuff yall can manage to do with a simple base model its outright amazing

[rigid cargo]

Ik lol, just a dumb meme, but it is funny how this engineer furry ik can go from formal, smart, and professional to uwu in less than a moment

[craggy niche]

We just seem to be more likely to be working in IT.
E.G. I'm the Director of IT for the company I work for.

[lapis ember]

imagine having good vibes couldn't be me

[visual crystal]

nah i ate them sorry

[quasi iris]

Every engineer I know is nowhere near professional

[shy hill]

most sell their work too. second form of income and a lot at that.

[honest valley]

huh
based

[long stump]

yeah, this seems correct! to avoid self-doxxing, i'm the equivalent of a google SWE5 at a company that does code stuff

[polar orchid]

Rain and snow are equally good but you get tired of one when you get it for so long. The seasons should be shorter, they drag on

[cold patio]

Keep review bombing y’all

[rigid cargo]

My cousin however, is like what you said there with agricultural engineering, she convinced her boss to buy a 3D printer for their office for “testing reasons” just so she and her coworkers could play with it…

[visual crystal]

i love snow and winter but that may just be bc i snowboard and play ice hockey

[polar orchid]

I love skating on the canal in the winter

[quasi iris]

I did the same with a team of technicians I was working with for a little

[radiant river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/900450104044052533/1001904995957997588/unknown.png

[visual crystal]

i’ve always wanted to do that omg i usually skate on a 3 mile lake

[polar orchid]

Skating on the canal, eating a warm beavertail, then having some hot chocolate. Oh just the absolute best

[thin fjord]

God damn

[thorny bloom]

im on vrchat for if anyone wanna hang out too xd

[visual crystal]

that sounds amazing omg

[polar orchid]

Well if you recognized beavertail that makes you one too eh?

[visual crystal]

canadians are just fuckin awesome
poutine too 🤌

[thin fjord]

Im moving to canada when im 18 fuck the states

[polar orchid]

😋 poutine!

[long stump]

i hear canada is pretty sweet!! i have been very close to canada but i have not been inside of it yet. i have only admired it at a distance!!!! i love you, canada.

[rigid cargo]

I have a crippling Coke addiction

[polar orchid]

hahaha

[thin fjord]

Canada is pretty but i hate the “Canadians are nice” like bro they have manners most of them are assholes just like everywhere else they’re fucking human

[rigid cargo]

Do you also measure in hamburger/bald eagles like me?

[polar orchid]

It's true. I'm the prime example, I'm a bit of a stubborn dick lol

[shadow badger]

Going to ask here instead of general-1 due to speedy wall.... What actually stops the devs to just take/get permission for the QOL mods, check the code and just copy-paste (with touch ups ofc so it works) them to VRC?

[exotic flicker]

schnocker made a contribution in a private repository TODAY. the future is NOW

[visual crystal]

i’m a god fearin, MUG root beer drinkin, WD-40 usin, country music listenin american and if you don’t respect that then i’ll… i’ll fuckin complain

[polar orchid]

Lmao

[rigid cargo]

Ever just put some WD-40 on your PC fans while you monch a borg and listen to the America f yeah?

[deft marlin]

Whenever I try to join certain world before I load in brings you back to the loading screen for my homeworld but I could hear the music from the world I'm trying to join

[thin fjord]

Ong how people are my uncle was like “if you don’t like America then leave” and i was like “ok i plan to”

[indigo escarp]

Did you know, Voyager 1-2 will continue existing even after the human race goes extinct?

[chilly blade]

EAC doesn't even work against cheaters, the bypass can be pasted from other games

[rigid cargo]

If you ain’t gonna love murica, she ain’t love you back none either ya metric lover (Hello yes this is satire)

[limber pasture]

its more of an issue of "how much value does this add for the majority of the population". The VRC team isnt endless, they work normal shifts like everyone else so time on one project is time not on another.

As far as some QoL mods, personal mirror has already be made as an avatar attachment using avatar dynamics. Another wholesome thing got redone using OSC. Restrictions can drive inovations at the end of the day

[visual crystal]

dude i’m a bi dude in like the most republican place in the US it’s not going well lmao

[light wedge]

people are still crying about eac lmao

[thorny bloom]

That's cool, imagine an advanced alien civilization discoverin it, manage to make it work, then found an empty planet

[rigid cargo]

Ik the feel, I’m in iowa and it’s pretty red here

[limber pasture]

If i have any critque of the EAC situation is that its disclosure to release was rushed, we effectively got blind sided and threw a lot of clubs off their footing

[exotic flicker]

im straight so whatever makes my tree grow is a woman

[polar orchid]

I wonder how long it would take for voyager 1/2 to sublimate into nothing, or if they would encounter an object before that

[visual crystal]

yeah dude like lifted trucks, when i was in high school all the guys would wear cowboy hats and be racist

[rigid cargo]

Nothin’ wrong with that either

Bi gang! Hecc yeah!

[visual crystal]

i became bi bc of how bad my ex treated me 👀

[rotund kraken]

Bi gang!!

[polar orchid]

Bi gang!!

[exotic flicker]

bisexuality is transitory. one day you will all learn not to love men and women, but to love yourselves

[proper schooner]

You can already okay vrc on mobile with Shadow

[visual crystal]

this is like the nicest group of people i’ve seen on this discord

[rigid cargo]

I love myself, AND men and women

[silent abyss]

I am Pan. Can I be friends with the Bi gang please?

[rigid cargo]

Yes but only because of the dead game pfp (I miss maple 2)

[mint meadow]

Me 😩

[exotic flicker]

there are only two sexualities: happy and wrong

[fluid quail]

for the people who dont want to be mad and genuinely worry about disability stuff, tfmjonnys twitter has been listing off things that still work

[visual crystal]

i’ve been in the closet to my parents for about 3 years now
and me <3

[polar orchid]

I'm wrong

[silent abyss]

Im right there with you. Pretty sure my mormon family know I am pansexual and are just letting it be. But they don't know I am transgender. 😱

[rigid cargo]

Still, they coulda done the accessibility first, also we just chillin over here away from the chaos

[fluid quail]

I said for the people who dont want to be mad silence bland

[limber pasture]

my sexuality is f around and find out

[visual crystal]

well at least that’s good :)
and me i raise hand

[spark eagle]

Bi gang can I join

[silent abyss]

[exotic flicker]

yes but do they have girls that will hold me by the throat in chillvr

[rigid cargo]

Rudeness like that is exactly why we chillin over here

[buoyant sedge]

Do you not know, Asclepius, that VRC is an image of heaven, or, to speak more exactly, in VRC all the operations of the powers which rule and work in heaven have been transferred to CVR below?

Nay, it should rather be said that the whole Kosmos dwells in this our land as in its sanctuary.

And yet, since it is fitting that wise men should have knowledge of all events before they come to pass, you must not be left in ignorance of this:
there will come a time when it will be seen that in vain have the autists honored developers with heartfelt piety and assiduous service; and all our holy worship will be found bootless and ineffectual.
For the gods will return from VRC to heaven.

VRC will be forsaken, and the land which was once the home of shitposting will be left desolate, bereft of the presence of its deities.

This land and region will be filled with foreigners; not only will men neglect the service of the devs, but VRC will be occupied by Scythians or Indians or by some such ethnicity from the barbarian countries thereabout. In that day will our most holy land, this land of furries and E-boys, be filled with funerals and corpses.

[visual crystal]

i used to be an e-boy and then i broke my chains and then i just was like well! time for pearls

[rigid cargo]

Did it

[silent abyss]

I'm anxious. I sent my computer in for upgrades. I am hopping they will be done in 3 hrs.

[iron apex]

Do yall want an image of a funny cat

[rich prawn]

🤓

[thorny bloom]

wtf? spamming? i was memeing something about bloodborne, vrchat bot is crazy af

[exotic flicker]

i hope youre not gonna tell me theres something good about being sad

[fluid quail]

is this channel chill today I wasnt sure

[visual crystal]

yeah

[vital knot]

was

[open crescent]

memeing not allowed

[gilded token]

All the pea brains go to general 1, this chat is more civil

[thorny bloom]

Great Kos, grant us eyes, awooo

[fluid quail]

thats how it was yesterday I tried to keep the peace in here but eventually people flooded in nice to know its chill in here again

[buoyant sedge]

your sin begets sin, child of Gomorrah

[vital knot]

you know for a game based entirely on the social community, angering that community should be a HUGE red flag

[polar orchid]

To paraphrase Bob Ross, you gotta have darkness to have light

[exotic flicker]

i will cry a hundred tears if it pleases the nut

[buoyant sedge]

this was prophesied

[gilded token]

I can name off a ton of communities that get angry and the companies do even less than the vrchat devs

[untold barn]

wtf is happening over in this chat XD

[thorny bloom]

oh yeah, went some time ago there, gambling, women and men, they talk sometimes about mr House, oh wait, was another gomorra?

[glass seal]

I dont know but im here for it.

[vital knot]

yeah willing to bet they aren't successful social platforms

[fluid quail]

I just kind of assumed all the people with the new to server icon would be here to complain my bad

[cursive zealot]

excuse me

[gilded token]

Roblox is one, it isn't specifically social but it plays a major part. Minecraft adding the report feature is another

[buoyant sedge]

the insidious nature of jannies is always revealed, they speak with forked tongues and lay in bed with the Prince of the Air

[polar orchid]

I'm just here to eat popcorn and watch things go down

[glass seal]

I mean im just here to watch the world burn while others do exactly that. LAWL. I already uninstalled the game to be honest...but this has been super entertaining and its popcorn worthyyyyyy

[fluid quail]

I see

[exotic flicker]

i have extremely high hopes for the future of vrchat, under our new investor overlords

[vital knot]

nonsense, there was never a response that threw off the majority of paying customers with roblox

[silent abyss]

The correct answer I believe is fruity chaos. I could be wrong though.

[past temple]

anyone else having issues with video players immediately crashing you on load? VR PC user btw

[novel hearth]

[lone parrot]

Well, because of all this I'm not going to be going back to VRC. Time to look for another alternative sadly

[vocal shard]

Chaos in general 1 and im new to this server.

[gilded token]

Well when you have millions upon millions compared to like 30k. it is obvious there is gonna be a major difference in the people complaining vs the people who aren't

[polar orchid]

Also all the non leaf complainers got banned already lol
You only see the leaves because the mods can't keep up

[regal furnace]

the only thing i wanna avoid more than public lobbies right now is CVR
all the toxic people over there, no thanks

[novel hearth]

If you have pcvr, neosvr is pretty dope.

[exotic flicker]

somehow im sure xi jinping is behind all this, and i trust him because china is a pretty big community, so i think we have a future

[cobalt venture]

It kinda sucks to move to other platform just because one bad decision from devs

[vocal shard]

NeosVR..?

[lone parrot]

Gonna check out ChillOutVR myself

[vital knot]

It's all about percentages. If you anger 5% to make 95% happy, that's a good business decision. If you anger 50% to do nothing for anyone else, that's a dumb business decision a-la EA and sim city.

[past temple]

I've tried NeosVR in the past, its pretty damn good with its feature set and its polished but the difference in design philosophy. There's a reason most people call it the Linux of social VR platforms

[glass seal]

Chaos tis the best. Also ChillOutVr and NeosVR are both great.

[brisk herald]

Chillout VR is overwhelmed right now.

[hollow jewel]

Have the movies music etc stopped working ?

[novel hearth]

Yeah, I had a friend stream it to me when I wasn’t feeling the best. It’s like if Gmod and Vrc had a baby. That’s NeosVR.

[silent abyss]

I cant leave VRC. It's where all my friends are for now. But I will admit that I have accounts for Neos and Chillout should the need arise

[polar orchid]

Well, that and the native Linux support

[cursive zealot]

i’m still gonna play vrc and keep my subscription , bc i know everyone is gonna switch up after another update happens

[exotic flicker]

the 0.001% has 80 million dollars, they dont give a fuck about you

[vital knot]

LOL you don't understand business if you think that

[polar orchid]

Btw y'all, neosvr is having an introductory workshop at <t:1658959200:t> in their discord so go check that out

[vocal shard]

I feel the same though im a quest user moving to PCVR next week.

[robust spire]

Our first priority for these changes is addressing several accessibility concerns in VRChat.
what does that mean why so vague... are we getting tts support?

[gilded token]

I mean, when looking at the charts, the average player count in the past few days has not dropped that much. It seems despite many people review bombing the game and trashing on the devs, there are still most of them playing the game (at least on steam)

[exotic flicker]

the 0.001% is not users, they are investors. they dont even play the game

[vocal shard]

Can we not use video players in vrc anymore? Some friends are havibg problems with the movie and chill world. Asking for them

[nocturne lodge]

EAC is messing with the video players I heard

[drifting pelican]

"We tested the update on Linux and it works" my ass... It doesn't

[hollow jewel]

Applejuice I couldn't get them working either

[silent abyss]

I am a desktop user. Friends gifted me quest 2 so I could cuddle as a questie. When my upgrades get done, I should be a half body.

[steady zinc]

A dev was in chat last night and they were saying that the entire team has shifted development focus to just working on implementing the most needed Accesibility features as soon as possible. There will be an announcement about it later today.

[vocal shard]

Broo...

[gilded token]

Doubt. They probably want to get most features noted before they announce anything. Don't want to miss a thing to end up in more controversy

[chrome osprey]

Lol overflow angry chat

[vocal shard]

Not good…. Have a DJ event on Friday. Hopefully the stream option works. Will test later

[vital knot]

Yeah this is what I mean about you not understanding, keeping numbers of free users matters very little if you lose 50% of your paying users

[vocal shard]

So no more movies due to EAC...?

[nocturne lodge]

That’s just what i heard. However, most of the people I’ve talked to have said that since this update most video players have completely stopped working.

[gilded token]

And how do you know that the majority of paying users stopped paying?

[steady zinc]

They were actively taking notes and having a good back and forth, building a list of most needed accesabilty / QOL features to communicate to the team. It seems like an honest attempt. It should have been done prior to the update, but it's obvious the effort is there. It doesn't seem like their getting much sleep.

[cobalt venture]

eh EAC need's to get reconsidered really

[silent abyss]

I was in Movie&Chill and it worked for me. I can test more when I get my computer back from the shop

[chrome osprey]

Easy anti cheat also means support for SteamDeck is removed....and no more movies?? Damn I used both those things

[vital knot]

User sample surveys

[robust spire]

Thanks

[hollow jewel]

Yeah the music and videos are pretty major... I understand why they might remove them but even so..

[exotic flicker]

who cares about the users

[vocal shard]

I...dislike this update already if i cant watch movies...

[past temple]

Can I get more details on that? So far none of my other friends, and even some people who have the exact rig as I do didn't have any problems, yet I am consistently quickly crashing on video player start.

[runic reef]

Features don't matter if we still gave to download malware to use vrc

[chrome osprey]

I pretty much convinced my friend to buy a quest so we could have regular movie nights so I'ma be pissed if they ruin that. Oh well I guess there is big screen

[steady zinc]

The quest movie issue is a bug and that is another thing they said they were aware and would be fixed soon.

[gilded token]

@vital knot How many people were surveyed?
@steady zinc That is why I feel most people were overreacting. People say the devs don't care, but they legit stated despite choosing to add EAC, that they would implement the features. That is way better than just ignoring people and not adding anything

[nocturne lodge]

I don’t know the details. However, just from what I’ve experienced and from what I’ve been told by friends that most of the video players have just stopped working. The only one I’ve seen work is within that one Chill VR room

[hollow jewel]

Ah. I was using quest vrc. I usually use pc..

[vital knot]

100 at random

[chrome osprey]

If they want to get people off mods they should add these features first not threaten and take it out on their playerbase

[runic reef]

EAC itself is a bigger problem then features as it allows access to your os kernal

[cursive zealot]

gen 1 are such babies tbh

[exotic flicker]

literally every vrc user could quit and they would still stick with their decision because anthos gave them so much money

[steady zinc]

Like I said, the timing of the roll out was piss poor. They should have added these features first and then rolled out the update. But I get the feeling the EAC addition was pushed by investors to be out before a possible influx of players from the new documentary. I think their hand was forced. From what they were saying it seems they really are trying to push another update out as soon as possible with such a small team.

[vital knot]

Yeah we should stop complaining and just accept whatever BS iwe're forced to accept. Incidentally have you ever complained about taxes?

[drifting pelican]

@dire remnant users. Does vrchat work for you after the update?

[glossy ravine]

Hey us chillout vr available for quest? without pc?

[untold meadow]

nope. Running Arch with the latest kernel

[cursive zealot]

i’ve never seen that many people complain abt taxes actually

[hollow jewel]

Exactly what I was thinking

[chrome osprey]

Fuckin lame. Vrc was awesome on steam deck

[glass seal]

Oh big known name maps are going bye bye

[nimble quest]

Don't forget to review bomb VRC on Steam if you guys haven't done so already

[terse solar]

I cant even watch movies anymore 🧎🏾‍♀️

[gilded token]

@chrome osprey Mods have technically been against their TOS. The fact they are going to add them, even if they made the stupid decision of not doing it before, means we should at least look forward
to that.
@runic reef the amount of services that are probably looking at what you are doing is actually insane. EAC just adds another to the list.

[quaint forge]

I’m pretty fruity why u ask?

[drifting pelican]

Do it, but only it the update directly affects you.

[cursive zealot]

pretty sure this whole server is fruity

[glass seal]

Already did iiit. Unfortunately im not satisfied with the fact that i only got two reviews in but ehhhh im an adult and have a job T.T

[vocal shard]

Movies are gone bc of EAC?

lol their goes like a huge chunk lmao

[vocal shard]

Noooo!!!!

[nimble quest]

You can review bomb even if the update doesn't directly affect you. That's silly to say

[exotic flicker]

it does effect people who care about security even if they use an unmodded client

[glass seal]

Yep. There were like official statements from big creators saying they were taking their content away. Black Cat, Pub world i forgot the name of, Movie and Chill, list goes on.

[quaint forge]

Imagine voting based on principles instead of whether something directly affects you or not.

[vocal shard]

Back to xbox i go c:

[idle dagger]

Nah fam

[gilded token]

Out of curiosity, have you guys even touched the game since the EAC update? Also what do you do in vrchat that you got this angry?

[cobalt venture]

It kinda affects - everybody -

[terse solar]

I cantttt watchhhh moviessss

[glass seal]

Nah nah. Join ChillOutVR and NeosVR...one might catch your attention more than the other. Plus most of the maps are going to be transfered.

[quaint forge]

Idk what a gc is but okay 🤚

@gilded token nope, it runs like shit now in public worlds

[undone belfry]

I heard mods/people from vrchat team were possibly answering questions?

[past temple]

Chill VR room? Do you know the full name? I need this world if I am gonna be able to watch the Premiere of 'We Met in VR' with friends, while in VR

[vocal shard]

It’s been a year daddy the eac didn’t work

[elfin turret]

Are we still going off about the eac 👀

[nimble quest]

I haven't logged on at all since the update went live. It's the principle. This update is keeping a big group of users from even playing (Deaf and HOH) along with people who have older hardware

[quaint forge]

Sure, send it.

[nocturne lodge]

I thinks it’s Movies and Chill. Could be wrong. It’s in the “Hot” category I know that

[drifting pelican]

yes, it does, in a way. But on the other hand, I don't want it to be like a cancel culture thing. Where people boycott something just because everyone else is doing that

[vocal shard]

Then ill have to wait until i get my Asus laptop

[past temple]

That's where I am getting this issue first

[glass seal]

I didnt do anything! I just had two mods that i really really super enjoyed. Anticrash stuffs, easy avi search stuff, letting me see my desktop without having to leave the game, maybe a lovely connection to certain special sexy time stuff. All gone bye bye cause of this. So....yea. Sucks.

[elfin turret]

Evidently yes

[nimble quest]

Not to mention we've been begging VRChat for quality of life updates for years without getting much, so to have mods suddenly taken away is obviously upsetting when they've done nothing to fix any of the quality of life issues yet

[quaint forge]

My guy are you basing your decisions on whether or not you look like a post 2016 singularity Twitter user?

[nocturne lodge]

Oh, that’s where it works for me. Every other movie/tv screen doesn’t work for me.

[buoyant sedge]

By the grace of Allah I return to VRC J*had. FTAC will once again know to fear me and my army of autists. War Squad united under the banner of Shariah Law. Four times banned, will unbroken, one finger pointed towards heaven. Inshallah.

[void hazel]

man, I just want FSR so that I can get above 30fps ;-;

[glass seal]

For sure! Swear its going to be worth it. Least they doing their updates and talk about it actively.

[elfin turret]

That's unfortunate

[peak mauve]

god dayum, this chat is more calm than gen-1 is

[drifting pelican]

what?

[past temple]

damn

[steady zinc]

Don't get a gaming laptop, biggest regret purchase I ever made. Building a PC is cheap again.

[quaint forge]

Same reason you watch movies on a big TV home theater or at the commercial theaters instead of on a laptop. Friends

[polar orchid]

look at their name. they don't have friends lol

[glass seal]

You paid money to watch movies on vrchat? o.o thats crazy....unless you just meant its cheaper than buying a vrset for that purpose specifically? xD Cause Movie and Chill world was amazzinnggg. Had giants amount of free content to watch with big groups of friends. Why WOULDNT people do that when they just wanna chill?

[nimble quest]

PC parts are cheap right now, and getting cheaper. Don't waste your money on a laptop

[nocturne lodge]

[quaint forge]

Then why pay money when you can view it for free on your laptop by your own logic 4head?

[elfin turret]

Some people don't know how to build a custom pc

[gilded token]

@terse solar just watch movies not in vr
@quaint forge Your opinion became invalid when you said you haven't touched the game. How do you know it runs like shit when you haven't tried it yourself?
@nimble quest Those people who used mods to communicate I can understand, but those with old hardware likely already suffered while playing the game.
@glass seal I mean what do people do all day in vrchat? Like do people actually play the minigames and stuff, or do they just sit around talking to people?

[vocal shard]

Again, i wouldnt have enough room for a desktop in my room. I already have 3 tv's in my room

[nimble quest]

I didn't know how to build mine. I bought the parts and had a friend build it for me

[terse solar]

That’s lonely asf

[quaint forge]

Because I ran it for 20 min before I gave up you homunculus

[elfin turret]

For what purpose do you have that many televisions in one room

[nimble quest]

I'm pretty fruity ngl

[past temple]

I wouldn't quickly make the comparison of watching movies together in VR in the same way as watching it together on a streaming service.
That's the same argument of claiming VR is basically 3D skype, and I don't think most of us here would be making that argument

[quaint forge]

I’m still fruity wym

[vocal shard]

Purchasing a gaming laptop was a big regret for me

[cobalt venture]

I really do like VRC... but now it really feels like it is dying out, what will remain if community leaves

[gilded token]

You must have some shitty hardware then

[nimble quest]

That's the point of the boycott. VRC needs us, the consumers for the game to work, yeah? So if we all boycott now, we can demand a change

[north ruin]

how is the game after the update

[elfin turret]

That's highly unlikely. But if it does everyone will just go to the next big competition. Thats just how consumerism works

[quaint forge]

I have a shitty cpu, that’s all it takes. Everything else is new. 3070, 64 gigs of ram, all that. I used a mod that didn’t render models unless they were close enough.

[spare vector]

vr chat is not dead stop overreacting, they could have done much worse

[fair ruin]

I love VRC too, but with someone whos almost cant pay for anything i feel like vrchat is only for vr headsets because mine can barley run vrchat in big worlds. With the mods i could run it and plus i also have a speaking problem where i stutter too much and i can barley speak sometimes but with TTS i felt safe and comfy with speaking. Now i no longer feel Comfy.

[gilded token]

That I can agree with you on. They should have really added mods and features like that before adding EAC which blocked these mods.

[nimble quest]

This is probably the biggest online protest in gaming history. It doesn't get much worse than this

[drifting pelican]

I am definitely with you on this one. I also added a negative review on steam, because my game literally stopped working after the update. I just don't like the people that do it just to be a part of something.

[quaint forge]

That’s all I’ve been saying. Idc about the EAC itself too much, I care about how ham fisted and premature it was

[dreamy sorrel]

All world creators need to delete/private their worlds. The game is useless without them.

[fair ruin]

Hi

[nimble quest]

THIS. I think some already are. Another great way to protest. If you know world creators, it might be a good idea to talk to them about it

[elfin turret]

It's not like they give a crap, they think they're big shots and wont listen to the community anyway.

[open crescent]

eh could be worse, this is more like a big tantrum

[spare vector]

chillout vr sucks ass

[old field]

Neos vr is cool tbh

[sinful niche]

so the EAC wont let me be, or let me be me, so let me see they tried to shut me down on vrc but it feels so empty without me

[gilded token]

Doubt. VRC community is no where near as large as most other gaming communities

[elfin turret]

hsbshshs

[umbral reef]

Cringe

[fair ruin]

If ppl delete their worlds and leave or enough ppl cancel their vrplus maybe

[supple coyote]

This game is still sitting at 50k concurrent users (~45k in private) the content creators aren't all going to dip immediately and good luck convincing that many people to join your protest

[light rapids]

Nah bruh it got crypto

[open crescent]

I don't like that they're into crypto coins

[nimble quest]

There are people who rely on mods to play the game, like people in the deaf community. This is more than just a tantrum. Even big online content creators are talking about this. Not to mention EAC has a horrible history with privacy issues

[marble scroll]

No one with a good world would delete it

[old field]

They mint it themselves its whatever tbh lol the community is cool, and the fact I could make a custom avatar without having to leave the game is a nice thing as well.

[elfin turret]

"let's fix the problem by making it worse" this is how you sound rn

[fair ruin]

I can agree yes but it depends on how far ppl will go.

[gilded token]

50K concurrent over all platforms?

[glossy ravine]

@light pawn Rec room!

[supple coyote]

Steam player count

[nimble quest]

It's called protesting

[open crescent]

it is still a big tantrum
that said vrchat said they would add accesibility stuff, so I do hope they do

@old field of course they mint it themselves everyone can make their own scamcoin that doesn't help their case

[dreamy sorrel]

Good. Fight fire with fire. VRC is useless without its community implementation.

[elfin turret]

Its called breaking a game.

[gilded token]

Don't think it ever hit 50k concurrently on steam. Charts say the highest average is in between 20k-30k.

[fair ruin]

I can agree but i was requoting someone else, I don’t think ppl should do it i just think we should still use our voices.

[nimble quest]

it's the fact that they implemented this anti-cheat BEFORE fixing the issues

[glossy ravine]

Not if your in priv lobbies or adult RR servers

[open crescent]

it doesn't really "run 100x better" it just had a max of 3 players up to now

[supple coyote]

Are the atrocious load times all across the board after the update btw?

[spare elbow]

imagine tanking your entire game because you're so out of touch with your community that you think all mods are bad despite a good chunk of your community being forced to use mods to actually play the game

[gilded token]

Load times didn't change for me

[nimble quest]

Someone doesn't know how consumerism works. We, as the players, are in charge. Not the devs. If we break their game enough, they'll have to listen. Protesting

[open crescent]

that was dumb and predictable yes, but it was also true mods have been forbidden from the start.
now, the following days will tell if they're keeping their word

[glossy ravine]

In discord servers they use bots or you dm birth info/ID

[quaint forge]

Trust system I’m guessing, with mods you could tell if someone had NSFW models but uhh…

[glass seal]

Its a social game, hun. So clubbing, full body dancing, sit around talking, worlds made for exploration, actual mini games, also actual long playing games, it has sleeping worlds for people to nap together. It...it was the embodiment of an active society twenty four seven. A metaverse. It came with its downsides cause of the lack of f's given by the devs but eh. The mods worked in our favor in fixing those issues. Kinda weird to make a sandbox like game to take away someones ability to create. Its a pity...i have so many memories. T.T Should also mention it catered to MANY styles of things to do. MANY. Didnt have to be just a concrete thing.

[supple coyote]

I still wanna see this proof that devs were also using modded clients, I'm wanting to believe but I gotta see it to believe it

[open crescent]

read the blog post in #announcements for the explanation on why mods were causing a lot of problems, it's not what you think

[vocal shard]

So my cousin and nephew have their own tv to play on

[elfin turret]

I'm not going to argue with someone who thinks they need to break something to get their way, that's absurd, barbaric and absolutely childish.

[umbral trail]

Gear question, is the best way to get eye and facial tracking + body tracking via Vive Pro Eye + facial tracker and the tracking pieces they have?

[glossy ravine]

Yeah? you aren’t in any adult discord servers?

[vocal shard]

Oof

[spare elbow]

fuck off bootlicker lmao they didn't say shit, all they said was "oh people have problem with game and it ends up being a mod" big woop

[spare vector]

imagine playing chill🤮ut vr

[gilded token]

@nimble quest Aren't they at least half listening by saying they are now focusing on adding the most important and useful mods
@glass seal Ngl if you spend an entire day sleeping in vr that is a little sad. Also mods were TOS, they just didn't enforce it till now. I completely agree that they really need to add a ton of shit to make the game better and more accessible, but you can't be fuming that a company did a company thing

[quaint forge]

Imagine playing games, couldn’t be me

@gilded token I can cope and seethe all I want just watch me

[nimble quest]

We're not actually breaking anything. This is how boycotting works. This is how peaceful protest works. We show VRChat that we don't support the update by taking away the funding and creations we've provided to them.

[earnest pewter]

Says the guy bootlicking mods.

[spare elbow]

yea because the mods actually make the game playable

[elfin turret]

Simply dont log in. Doesnt mean you delete words. That's literally making the problem worse and you fail to see that.

[nimble quest]

How does it make the problem worse? Please explain

[quaint forge]

Idk how that makes the problem worse it’s just voting with your copyrighted materials. I don’t agree with it, but they have every right to do so

[gilded token]

You can, it gets a little sad though after you do it to a certain extent. Companies do stuff worse than this all the time, so the fact the devs said they would at least add it even after the fact makes me happy

[spare elbow]

the game is horribly unoptimized and the only way to actually make it playable, whether that be optimizing the game, preventing crashers, is through mods because the devs refuse to actually do that and instead just take the lazy route and implement a shit and invasive anticheat

[umbral trail]

Damn general 2 is lit today

[glossy ravine]

Well there’s some 16+ and 17+ discord servers out there but yeah adult servers have verification systems set up or you cant get in

[umbral reef]

Almost all performance is lost by avatars

[supple coyote]

Mods are against ToS though so it doesn't matter what argument you got, I was asking before if they intended on keeping VRC as a safe haven for crashers/griefers and I guess this was their answer :I

[quaint forge]

Homie it’s unoptimized because players create the content, not because of Devs. Devs just haven’t made workarounds, that much is their fault.

[nimble quest]

Do none of you understand how protesting and boycotting works??? This is insane. How else do you expect to get the attention of the devs? This is the best way to do it

[spare elbow]

The game itself is unoptimized, it just gets worse/it's shown by the fact people take advantage of how unoptimized it is. If the game was optimized properly, crashers wouldnt be as easy to make, it would run better on lower-end systems.

[gilded token]

I mean they said they won't be reverting the decision. Unless they lost all funding and the 18k people currently online left, those who are still complaining are fighting a battle already lost

[umbral reef]

You think they havent noticed yet? Like they spend all day answering questions and stuff.
Just because they wont submit to people and do exactly as they say doesnt mean they aint listening

[elfin turret]

Those who actually play or only have friends on there can't spend time with the support system they built on it, they're dealing with the lack of mods. Let them still play. While the rest of us who can go without boycott. Dwindling their numbers by a majority will be better. What happens when you delete all the worlds and they listen to us. Then what? We won't have worlds. Some of those worlds getting deleted are beloved and have been up since the beginning. You saying "delete them because we're upset"is breaking for the sake of a tantrum.

[glossy ravine]

Ay juss a recommendation 🤷🏽‍♀️

[quaint forge]

Not when you need ID or a credit card

[nimble quest]

That's exactly the issue! They hear us, but they aren't listening yet, so we have to continue. We have to make it harder on them. We're in charge. It's that simple

[umbral reef]

Shitty discords breaking laws by not properly handeling personal information does not mean VRchat can do the same 🙃
If you report it they will instantly ban the user from public worlds of VRchat fully

[gilded token]

I could say that for any AAA company. You think the millions that complain can do something but as long as that silent fanbase is there that still pays, the company doesn't even respond

[glossy ravine]

Most do though, at least from what ive seen

[nimble quest]

What happens? We put the worlds back after they listen. Why are you complicated it? It's not as if they'll be gone forever lmao

[stone sun]

Hey is it safe to play pcvr airlink vrchat y’all?

[quaint forge]

Shoa why wouldn’t it be

[umbral reef]

Most of the world doesnt use a credit card fyi--
Also its extremely hard to make a system to automatically check ID's. Roblox 'self made advanced system' gets bypassed by chucky cheese cards 💀

[north granite]

This is why the playerbase is dying... people worrying about getting banned

[elfin turret]

What if they aren't backed up. I'm not over complicating it. I'm literally telling you're going about this the wrong way and you aren't even listening.

[glossy ravine]

they’re actually pretty chill at least when im active, maybe their is weird shit happening when im offline who knows💀 I mind my business

[nimble quest]

We can complain all we want, but the devs won't take us seriously unless we actually take action, and show them we mean it when we say we won't support the update

[stone sun]

I’m not worrying about getting banned I just don’t wanna get crashed by some mega crashes and my pc explodes 😐

[north granite]

You won't, EAC is here!!!!!! :aware:

[glossy ravine]

Yeah?..because i can actually get in? and i like bein surrounded by people my age soo?

[supple coyote]

And ye, the game is unoptimized considering this is Unity jank with user made content, some of that content made by people who have absolutely no clue what you mean when you ask about topology or remeshing, because not all of the modelers are on the same level as professionals

ToS has always stated modded clients aren't allowed but I would love to see this other ToS that apparently exists that never stated such

[nimble quest]

We're asking the creators themselves to temporarily remove the worlds. I think they're smart enough to back up their own worlds

[stone sun]

Okayy thank y’all ❤️❤️

[quaint forge]

I just hang out with adults and talk about adult things with my fellow adults

[snow parrot]

Reject VRC, return to public RUST lobbies

[umbral reef]

Gotta wear them 40K drawcall avatars 💪

[knotty geyser]

yes...ive been very vocal about it in #user-support-old

[glass seal]

Lol do i seem like im fuming? Cause i just uninstalled it and came here to eat popcorn as the world burned. I dont agree with their decisions for many a reason, one being many who created fixes for their game were modders, not devs. And if they truly cared about the community they would have implemented/changed many many things that have been called out for years. Modders dont work for praise, money, or recognition but because they are passionate and love it. Most big named modders even supported VRC by making all their services features accessible to those that paid for VRC+.

Point is, trash decision. Yes its a company though and they will do things for their own benefit. I aint mad at them for being a business. Its private they can do as they please. Im mad at them for just being inconsiderate darnright rude by slapping those who werent even a part of their TEAM in the face. Its cool to be a corporate/system slave but not everyone has to eat it. Ya know? And btw. Do you truly have to attack people that use vrc for sleeping? Its not an entire day sort of thing. Many adults have jobs...many have sleeping issues. Maybe they like the 'idea' of cuddling with friends or sleep overs.

[nimble quest]

We're asking people to temporarily remove their support in protest of the update. Nobody is ruining the game except VRChat themselves

[stone sun]

Oh thank the stars 😭😭

[elfin turret]

K I'm done arguing with you now. Because you truly believe you are right and I'm done trying to reason with a brick wall.

[quaint forge]

Like I said I don’t agree with it, but if people pull their worlds that’s their decision. It’s their copyrighted material and their property.

[supple coyote]

If there's still money to be made they aren't going anywhere.

[umbral reef]

Temporary protest would really just result in those creators instantly being no bodies after they do so kekw
Who is gonna go back to the place that was gone for a month when better and more popular alternatives popped up the second they ran

[glass pendant]

brb gonna delete Win32

[past temple]

Thanks for directing me there

[quaint forge]

I can’t be a fluffy dog man with floppy ears in rec room so that makes it bad

[nimble quest]

I've said it before, as the consumers, we are where the money comes from. If enough of us boycott and protest, they'll have to listen to us. That's how business works

[gilded token]

You made a wall of text so yea, it does seem like you are fuming. Not attacking people using vrc for sleep, I just don't get the point of it.

[supple coyote]

I mean if all the creators now took off that's less competition for people that are just jumping in @nimble quest

[elfin turret]

^^^

[glass pendant]

also I don't think 18k concurrent users is a dying userbase. Also that's only Steam. Quest is probably threefold that size

[quaint forge]

less competition good
Bro what?

[nimble quest]

The less players, the more VRChat will panic and listen. That's protesting, bb. That's the whole point

[supple coyote]

@quaint forge if you're the only gig in town, who are you competing with for business?

[glass seal]

Nah i just explained one of the reasons i dont like the decision. Im pretty civil and like i said i changed platforms to something else thats mod friendly. shrugs And sure its ok to not understand it but you could also try to show a bit more empathy. Its not really all black and white, lol.

[quaint forge]

That’s a monopoly. That’s not a good thing. Ever. At all

[umbral reef]

54K*
Just the SteamVR Pc userbase has dropped, what is far even from the full VR playerbase with a large part using oculus software and not steamVR

[elfin turret]

There's no point, they're literally not even trying to understand what we're trying to tell them. It's worse than a brick wall tbh.

[nimble quest]

I think some of you need a lesson on how boycotting companies works, because it does work

[supple coyote]

@dim citrus weird is fun c:

[glass seal]

Speak. Louder. For. Those. In. The. BaCk.

[gilded token]

Yeah bro I love telling roblox to address their numerous false bans and breach’s and they dont say shit

[quaint forge]

Not me I’ve never used an anime avi, only fluff

[somber estuary]

Im just bamboozled by the slow mode being so long

[supple coyote]

Abandon anime, be floof

[nimble quest]

Exactly this. Thank you

[glass seal]

Thank you, im a cute danger noodle. XD Snoot is there for all the boops.

[quaint forge]

Worlds are free because people made them and uploaded them for fun. If they aren’t having fun and don’t agree, they can take it off. It’s their property. It sucks and I hate it, but they have every right.

[vocal shard]

Bro the atmosphere from here to the c v r discord is just astounding 💀

[nimble quest]

Oh no, how terrible. Temporarily restricting players from accessing free content in protest? You're right, we're monsters

[gilded token]

More like permanently

[glass seal]

Im not reading theirs just yet though i did join. Is it crazy?

[vocal shard]

Crazy in a celebratory way. The environment isn’t nearly as toxic and polluted.

[nimble quest]

Who says? Lmao. You can't just make things up. I'm laughing way too hard

[quaint forge]

Probably because your issue is emotional just like mine, not logical. But the logic stands that they have every right, just like VRC devs have the right to make their own decision about the game, the users have the right to do the same.

[worthy helm]

EAC = Based
Mods = Cringe
😎👍

[glass seal]

Nice nice nice. Can't wait to get home from work to see what thats like. I love it here though. Chaos makes for good food xD

[opaque heron]

So true

[gilded token]

They said they wouldn’t revert it. If people removed their content until the update is reversed, well it prolly won’t be added back

[half sinew]

Y'all still complaining?

[vocal shard]

Chill Out VR

[sick barn]

https://c.tenor.com/4PeBFGUeyewAAAAM/the-it-crowd-moss.gif

[elfin turret]

^^^

[glossy ravine]

I say we all just play rec room👍🏾

[vital knot]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-principal-skinner-skinner-children-out-of-touch-gif-4463952

[quaint forge]

Thx it’s from a super stupid comic I fell in love with

[worthy helm]

CovidR

[opaque heron]

Froggers

[nimble quest]

That's why we need everyone to be in on this, not just some people. When you protest, you can't half-ass that stuff. The more people who join in, the more of a chance we have to make a change

[glass seal]

Forever and always. Blessed be us worker bees of the Complaining Team.

[gilded token]

Good luck getting the 20k currently online steam users

[vocal shard]

CVR, COVR, they both the same thing. It doesn’t really matter that much.

@light pawn It’s going well. It’s chaos but the most supportive chaos i’ve seen in my life. 😂

[umbral reef]

At the sametime, with how toxic most of the people have been its not odd the staff wont engage with the community at all.

[nimble quest]

Ah, yes, because a social game is totally comparable to a competitive battle royal game

[glass seal]

Lol those peeps are enjoying their time in there xD

[sick barn]

I've been playing vanilla for a few months, good for sending log files to get corrupt asset bundle skids banned

[gilded token]

It will go up by the end of the day.

[worthy helm]

54k online atm, look at bot

[nimble quest]

I'm the one who doesn't think? Lmaooo. Oh my god. Are you okay? Read my post one more time, buddy

[glossy ravine]

Soo are there any quest stand alone compatible vrc replacements?-

[cloud plank]

people always bypass anti-cheat. it's a cat and mouse game. the number of people bypassing will be lower than the pre-EAC modded client number. that's the point.

[lone ore]

so this doesnt get deleted but criticism is?

[chrome iron]

Delete EAC

[glass seal]

Well it was subpar cause it didnt have a support base. However its open to mods and most creators are already transferring their stuff over. And they are good at giving live updates and fixing stuff. So far...pretty baddy (in a good way)

[gilded token]

Talking about steam numbers

[nimble quest]

The other games that use EAC are competitive ranking-based games. VRChat is not that. They're not comparable in an argument about whether or not EAC will work well for VRC

[kind jackal]

Pretty sure you are NOT allowed to talk about clients in discord

[sick barn]

The ones bypassing it are the real problem players tho

[worthy helm]

Eh it's the smaller part of the community anyway

[lone ore]

what does this have to do with what i said?

[kind jackal]

message getting deleted lol

[chrome iron]

Delete EAC

[nimble quest]

Exactly.

[umbral reef]

Thats why i dont wear my seatbelt! Its not 100% effective so i refuse to restrict my yoga movements while driving

[lone ore]

i wasnt talking about a client tho?

[glass seal]

Trust. There is no choice but for a pop off. Most PC users, modders, and content creators (aka those that made Black Cat, Movie and Chill, ect) already formally said they transferring their stuff and deleting it from VRC.

[gilded token]

Unlike fps games, i doubt many people would go out of their ways to make a mod for vrchat now

[cloud plank]

did you... read what I said?

[sick barn]

Cvr is going crazy over there trying to keep up with the flood of people

[fading birch]

I wish cvr would work for me rn lol

[nimble quest]

VRChat is literally built on a foundation of user-generated content. We as players have all the power here

[fading birch]

Omg you’re right it does

[chrome iron]

Delete EAC

[nimble quest]

Thank you! I actually drew it myself. Super glad you like it ❤️ I've heard of Omori, but haven't played yet

[elfin turret]

Damn I went, showered, ate dinner, and yall are still arguing about the eac

[gilded token]

Prolly gonna be another week or so

[nocturne lodge]

I hate EAC. Another avatar of mine that I loved got privated/deleted cause of EAC....

[nimble quest]

I own it on Steam. I'll have to finally install it and play sometime soon. I've heard it's really good

[glass seal]

Hun. The game platform is private company owned. The content created? Its by the people playing it. Most that make said content use a PC to develop it. They took away mods that are used to help make those experiences better. Yea...like...big ooooof.

[umbral reef]

You really think most anti cheats are any better then EAC?
If we where having this convo in 2016 id agree but right now its by far the best on the market when you look not at just effectiveness but performance, privacy and effectiveness together.
You can get the valorant mallware that gets still bypassed or some of the shitty EA systems that barely work but steal all your performance.

[gilded token]

Kind of impossible. EAC disables all mods, no the devs.

[nocturne lodge]

So I'm curious, where's our announcement we were told we were gonna get today by Strasz

[umbral reef]

The day aint over yet- Yesterdays release was in 2 hours so plenty of time left for them

[nimble quest]

Alright, I'm done here for today. I need some sleep. See ya, nerds

[gilded token]

gn

[elfin turret]

Oof

[umbral reef]

Dont play games with punkbuster in it so hard to give that
For valorant- I seen plenty, they come in giant waves, update happens and they vanish.
Also valorant also only really gets the obvious stuff, triggerbots have been proven and acknowledged by riot to be almost imposible to stop.

[open crescent]

bruh I got auto timed out for trying to explain how admins using mods was fake lmao, I think you can't mention the admin's name right now, possibly

[kind jackal]

i see i see since the only message i seen has been talking about clients

[dim dove]

Exactly, the power should be with the users imo

[umbral reef]

My RTS hands still managed to get diamond 2 👴
Also back in the OW (non goat comp) i was a regular top 500 visitor

[lone ore]

the reply i made was about mods allowing hate speech but not criticism

[thorny tide]

We could all ping tupper to get his attention

[gilded token]

Not a game dev, but I have tried to make numerous games. Can confirm the logic seems simple, but when you want to code it, it is wayyyy more difficult.

[umbral reef]

The dude has been getting harrased, doxed and ect since the update. Fairly sure he wont look in here because you pinged him 💀

[vocal shard]

“All of y’all who say you’re going to COVR will be back cause you can’t live without VRC!!1!1!”

^ That is an argument that I’ve been seeing recently in both of the general chats.

I and many others most certainly can live without this god awful platform.

Vrchat dev’s what about making two sides of Vrchat one server with EAC the other with no EAC so people can enjoy your game again? Good idea to do or no?

[gilded token]

I do agree with you, cause I know of some games where you can choose to run EAC, although it may have been implemented here in the full game to protect standalone quest users or something

[open crescent]

it's in great part to stop thousands of support requests coming in and wasting time and money from the devs on trying to solve problems caused completely by mods
as well as people getting their accounts stolen unknowingly by installing mods that pretended to be harmless.
(Read the blogpost in #announcements for vrchat's explanation)
not to forget mods have been banned from the start

[umbral reef]

Generally you cant go online in those games without it for a reason...
Also those games from what i have seen have worse working EAC like elden ring

[lime hare]

the one thing i feel really upset about is losing friend categories. i had a separate friend category for people who knew my best friend/semi-partner who passed away from suicide recently. now that category is gone and i dont have room in my friend favorites to rebuild it. very frustrating.

[frigid bramble]

that'd defeat the purpose, they don't want people to hack the game, if you could disable it it would be a useless feature

[open crescent]

many thanks a friend of mine made it 🥝

[upbeat berry]

but eac doesn't fix any of that

[rustic locust]

EAC makes sure you're not running a modded client basically

[glossy ravine]

welp

[gilded token]

Ik, mods were against TOS. I kinda do think it wasn't the best move adding them after EAC, but technically mods aren't allowed

[umbral reef]

The team and the laws they have to follow generally

[cobalt geode]

we heard your feedback, which was nearly everyone against EAC.
so we didn't give a f*ck and still rolled update

Indie equivalent of EA, right here lmao

[open crescent]

of course, but the reason for banning mods is the same as what i said here #vrchat-general-2 message
vrchat can't know if a mod is "good" or "bad"
and users who install "good" mods think they're fine and it secretly steals their stuff sometimes or becomes a botnet and they don't know
not everyone, but enough for vrchat to take action as you can see

[frigid bramble]

as one of the vrchat mods said "we'll agree to disagree on the [effectiveness] of EAC"

[rustic locust]

The only people installing sketchy mods are those using Hacked clients

[gilded token]

I saw lots of people saying EAC can easily be bypassed, but you have to be on the next level of sad to develop a mod to bypass EAC for vrchat

[cobalt geode]

also RIP to the people who use Virtual Desktop and Oculus version because some people can have FPS drops due to SteamVR being terrible

[rustic locust]

Yeah...

[glossy ravine]

oh its Madness combat! Its white hank lol

[golden rose]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ceiling-ceiling-cat-gif-21079929

[fiery sparrow]

so i cant launch the game period, it comes out that eac isnt installed. EAC is in my services list, but it cant start because it is missing the program file. EAC isnt in my program files or my service registry... Nothing I do works to fix it. any thoughts?

Yes i opened a support ticket, I got copy pasted results including a few suggesting that its because my computer is not compatible with eac.

[open crescent]

to do this, they would still need anticheat technology (and they would still break every single update)

[rustic locust]

I used to just get 100+ frames when fully loaded and now I'm gonna get half that

[glossy ravine]

I have a madness combat problem, i swear everytime im on vrc im in a madness combat world💀 ANDD my friend is making me my own white hank custom avatar SO YAYYY

[golden rose]

stop playing the game and go outside

[fiery sparrow]

Thats what caused this issue in the first place. Ive reinstalled the game probably a couple dozen times.

[golden rose]

not if your used to 100 or 120-144

[spiral plover]

I'd like to debunk that

[vocal shard]

How do u o that?

[golden rose]

thats just wrong especially in vr

[barren fractal]

does anyone in here have a decent PC getting over 30+ FPS? wondering if its still absolute dog for the better spec players

[glass seal]

And that right there is the reason everyone super upset. XD free labor. Everyone making your content. Then proceeding to not listen? It is what it is. It's why I'm here watching the world burn

[rustic locust]

Yeah its a buffer at that point but fully loaded I'm gonna be dropping to like 40< probably having to use steam VR

[glossy ravine]

:0 Im jealous

[fiery sparrow]

As i stated above, i did open a support ticket and was given a copy paste response including suggestions that my computer is not compatible with EAC. I already had EAC on here, had run vrchat since the update, but on attempting to reinstall it to fix a crashing issue, the EAC files are gone, and can not be replaced.

[vocal shard]

Thanks

[gilded token]

I didn't enter a public lobby, but in my private world I was running 140 fps no problem. I can see how public worlds run if you want

[rustic locust]

Steam VR was my problem in the first place

[golden rose]

i have a 2060 super and 32 gigs of ram i get around 50 fps though i should be at least 120

[barren fractal]

Up to you but I appreciate it since I plan on upgrading in a few months and wonder if VRC will still fuck the FPS

[glacial isle]

I've lost a ton of performance too

[fiery sparrow]

its so great right?

[gilded token]

cpu?

[rancid rampart]

wish i could play vrc but fucking eac banned all my mods that i need

[golden rose]

idk about eac doing much but the game was horrendously optimised anyway

[glass seal]

Yep. Also funny enough less strain on PC users on the COVR and NVR. Least when they are running. Lol. Unflux of peeps making accounts and stuff making them have to shut down for major updates.

[barren fractal]

holy shit 💀

[gilded token]

This. Tbh though it is hard to optimize a game made almost purely of community content

[glacial isle]

My CPU has gone from 20% usage to 50-60% after this update (5600x), and RAM usage has gone up a lot too, was in a small world with 3 friends and the game was using 6gb of ram.
There are a lot more fps spike drops too. Whenever someone changes avatar I freeze for a long time. Didnt happen before.

[golden rose]

ryzen 3700x on desktop right now i get around 90-100 fps but in vr it halves

[gilded token]

Makes sense that vr halves it. Still a huge rip though

[glossy ravine]

its cool!

[golden rose]

yea but its still crazy to me that hla consistently runs better than vrchat and looks a thousand times better

[zealous hull]

Are there any plans for a tool like panic room to be implied
I don't know how it would be as it slaps you into the void that vinyette enables and plays a custom sound while muting everyone

Mute all and void is doable
Custom sound to help calm down won't be as easy.

[livid remnant]

was hoping by the time i came back the team would have come to it's senses...

apparently not

[glacial isle]

They're doubling down even :D - though they are changing their internal roadmap to accomodate for qol features

[safe inlet]

So how's the fire raging today?

[golden rose]

not bad

[calm harness]

dos anyone have sam vrchat discord server that I can join?

[patent saffron]

I think it died considering the community has lost and the devs just don't care.

[vocal shard]

hey is vr chat safe to play or is this hacker shit going on

[livid remnant]

@glacial isle ofc they are. shoulda done it before adding EAC

@vocal shard https://twitter.com/ajondc here's the artist!! he's incredible.

@short egret red bar go through the floor too 💀

[twin fable]

Haha no not even a little

[gilded token]

safe to play

[safe inlet]

Don't listen to whiny babies. I have 150 hours without ever using mods, and never once ran into a crasher, or a ripper, or anything weird.

[foggy flicker]

EAC update my a$$!
Now i can't even start the darn game!
Devs just have NO idea on how to make a game maintain both the game and the community!

[analog pulsar]

Thats because normal people avoid you

[golden rose]

^^ just dont go into servers where degens hang out

[calm harness]

please I won't sam vrchat discord server that I can join please send me

[livid remnant]

wanting basic accesability features for disabled folks is being whiny? your ableism is showing

[patent saffron]

ripping avatars from what I hear is simple. the cache isn't secured on your local machine like it should be. call that security..

[safe inlet]

Nah I went into all the degen servers too, Black Cat is infamous for crashers apparently, never had an issue.

@livid remnant Stop using disabled people as an excuse to argue, you don't actually care.

[vocal shard]

As someone with 2,000 hours, no. Don’t bother. The game hasn’t fixed the vulnerabilities, they just defeated the ability for people to have their own ways to defend themselves

[steel grove]

^^^

[livid remnant]

as someone who is literally disabled, yes i do, ableist prick.

[twin fable]

Don't believe it nor do I trust it I felt better before the update truthfully

[dark elk]

as someone with 13K hours, just play the game

[golden rose]

ive been crashed a couple times and i have like 64 hours its based on luck quite a bit as well

[gilded token]

Full 18 person lobby running 80-100 fps desktop. Not sure what vr looks like

[golden rose]

you really like pfps dont you

[balmy pewter]

Keep up the good work! This has been funny as hell. Heheheheh.

[vocal shard]

As someone who has crashed people in vrchat for years, the concept of people using them isn’t a constant given. It’s more of, being in the wrong place at the wrong time when someone decides to attack.

[rain urchin]

@sly veldt

[vocal shard]

Despite being a controversial opinion, I personally gladly welcome the update. Let people who want to enjoy a quality experience find a game with developers who aren’t just interested in lining their pockets and doing little to no work for years.

[safe inlet]

The people complaining are not people who know how to be happy. They're the ones who like to latch onto ANYTHING to complain about and freak out about, and are only happy when pandered to. Good luck.

[twin fable]

You would think but based on vrc dev teams notorious reputation on how poor they do the updates I have little to no faith in this one ill just wait until the modding community gets around it all or just move on im just here at this point to see the show lol

[steel grove]

Vrc had the right idea but executed it terribly. There are multiple other, better, ways to handle malicious users and mods that cause bugs.

[golden rose]

fair doos

[gilded token]

I can understand their anger, although many are losing their minds over it.

[pastel hill]

What other things to use than vrc?

[livid remnant]

or its the people who just want disabled folks to be able to actually play the game? and who don't want the FPS drops? and who know EAC will do nothing but bad?

your use of "pandering" tells me you don't give a single shit about disabled people

[shy hill]

who high asf rn

[analog pulsar]

Who sober asf rn

[steel grove]

To be fair, eac is not a good system

[golden rose]

wish i was 😔

[gilded token]

With all respect, out of the thousands that play vrc, how many of them are hard of hearing or deaf?

[safe inlet]

If you're deaf, and start playing a game based entirely on voice interactions with others? Yeah, you signed up for that, and I don't really feel much pity. And the actual number of people who are deaf is probably quite small!

[shy hill]

wya ill smoke u up

[vocal shard]

Probably around 5 percent.

[golden rose]

scotland

[steel grove]

That’s a good point, but it should be accessible to everyone as much as it possibly can be

[livid remnant]

doesn't matter. the question is entirely irrelevant. It's enough to warrant the accessibility features

@safe inlet it's ok you can just say you're ableist.

[shy hill]

my car can barely make it a town over nvm

[golden rose]

hahahahaha i was ready for that lol

[rain urchin]

🍋

[slow owl]

Vrchat sucks, fight me tupper

[gilded token]

Even though the amount of people with actual hearing disabilities is probably extremely low, I would still advocate for more accessibility features. I think the worst thing here is the way the devs went about it. At least they said they would be implementing the features. I guarantee you all the people who said they would leave will 100% come back as long as there is no sudden competition that appears.

[steel grove]

I suppose that makes sense, yeah. I read that as something different, apologies.

[vocal shard]

Vrchat devs have a tendency to say a lot of things.

[safe inlet]

So, being a dumbass. Remind me why I should feel pity for those people?

[rain urchin]

🍋🍉

[pastel hawk]

i find it kinda messed up how we cant have some freedom like.. for people like me having a hard time hearing i cant really hear anymore on vrchat

[gilded token]

It may be common but, certainly not that common when looking at the total population

[livid remnant]

CVR becoming quite popular.

@safe inlet we get it bro you have literally 0 empathy for other human beings, it's ok you can just admit it

[analog pulsar]

How to ruin your entire argument 101:

[slow owl]

I cant wait to get to try cvr

[vocal shard]

One in twenty have hearing issues, gnomeblineer

[safe inlet]

Yeah I highly doubt a significant portion of the population is a military member in active firing environments who had bad ear plugs. Kinda, you know, not likely.

[steel grove]

Really just stopped trying at this point

[rain urchin]

🍋🍉

[pastel hawk]

does Cvr have bones?

[livid remnant]

closed captions are also important for ADHD and autism, not just deafness.

y'all don't understand accessibility and it shows

[golden rose]

ok im very sorry

[grizzled tangle]

I love greggs

[sharp saddle]

Can we have some original arguments, please?

[vocal shard]

Close captions are useful regardless of disability. Most games usually come with them prepackaged as a given.

[elder beacon]

Can someone play Pokémon go with me plez?😞

[rain urchin]

🍋🍉>EAC

[golden rose]

i also love greggs

[urban crane]

welp off to chill out vr because vrchat just is now boring since the devs chose to make their game child friendly

[grizzled tangle]

Good man

[elder beacon]

Pokémon go?😞

[vocal shard]

'we are angry about the vrchat update! 20k of us!!'

only 1k more people on chillout vr for about an hour and then most left

lmfao

[sage kettle]

This shit is not what's up dude. VRC Was already going too shit but this is a fucking line dude.

[urban crane]

ik its not

[vocal shard]

Technically it is. I don’t think vrchat is appropriate for anyone under 18, because of the ludicrously obscene levels of shit that happens in the game.

[trim notch]

Anyone know what happened to movies and chill, it won't work after the update

[rain urchin]

🍋🍉>EAC

[gilded token]

@livid remnant 1285 peak for CVR vs VRC 42,564 peak (Steam). Currently 707 online CVR, and 18,238 online VRC. CVR looks extremely good, but does have some ways to go still.
@vocal shard And out of those 1 in 20, how many are playing a vr game where the main point is to use voice chat?

[livid remnant]

so because other people have made the arguments too that makes them invalid?

@vocal shard Exactly, and its clearly not hard to do adaptive automatic captioning as an option

@vocal shard exactly. it's not even just about hearing. theres also issues of mic quality and accents etc etc.

@gilded token it's been like a few days, give it some time

god slow mode is annoying

[vocal shard]

they were on for an hour and left

look at the hourly steam stats, it is a joke

definitely came back to vrchat lmfao

[bronze mirage]

I am honestly surprised that no one has thought to check out Helios. Its beautiful ^^ With the performance so bad that no one can play in groups might as well move my creator self to the pretty stuff. The whole hacker thing is dumb tho, if people are actually believing that they are going to do anything. lol

[sharp saddle]

No, it's just people keep making the same points over and over and over. We get it, you want accessibility for those who need it. But please make new points!

[rigid cosmos]

CVR doesn't have the capacity to handle the load that VRC can. They literally have been making announcements about current maintenance to scale for higher capacity

[bronze bough]

Question

Are public worlds safe?

[vocal shard]

My figure also does not take into account people with mental disabilities, and considering vrchat is filled with social outcasts (no offense to any) the number is most likely more like 15% or more

[elder beacon]

Pokémon go plez😭

[sage epoch]

What are some good alternatives to VRchat that are up rn?

[vocal shard]

no, you will be eaten alive by Mr Big Chungus Super Hacker and turned into a mindless eboi in 0.2 seconds if you enter into a public world

[robust spire]

is there plans to support linux again i cant boot vrc anymore. do i need to install something new?

[livid remnant]

these are the points, and they're very important points. the more people that say it the harder it is for the team to ignore

[sharp saddle]

It's like a battle of "Reee, my mods are gone. F VRChat" and calling people ableist for no apparent reason.

[steel grove]

If you have any sort of mod loader uninstall it and try the game again, if you haven’t tried it uninstalling and reinstalling should do the trick

[bronze bough]

Can I please get a clear answer?

[vocal shard]

I agree that calling people ableist is fucking stupid but it is the fact that high powered accessibility modifications that helped people play the game have been removed.

[livid remnant]

im gonna try it tonight probably 😎

[gilded token]

CVR looks extremely compelling; it just needs more of a player base and from what I heard, better servers

[winged escarp]

My dm

[elder beacon]

Plez add me Pokémon go😭

[sharp saddle]

Love it when no one actually listens, they just wanna shit-fling with no rhyme or reason. Love it.

[buoyant narwhal]

I never even played VRC. I'm just here to see the chaos

[robust spire]

Its just crashing before i get to any screen after i updated. i dont have any mods installed but im on xubuntu not windows or mac

[vocal shard]

it is completely safe, there was no hackers, only kids who believed everything that they saw on vrchat discord announcements

[elder beacon]

Play Pokémon go plez

[simple zinc]

lol new update cant invite people to my own friends to a invite+ instance

[eager monolith]

Extremely hypocritical.

[rigid cosmos]

you're not going to have high capacity servers when you don't have the playerbase for it. They have the demand now, so they are scaling to accommodate. You can't compare hundreds of users on a platform to VRC when the platform barely supported that much in the first place

[sharp saddle]

All I said was to offer original arguments, arguments that don't repeat the same talking points. I'm all for accessibility for those who need it but what else are you trying to fight for?

[gilded token]

??? I said that CVR looks good, just needs to upgrade shit and it could start to compete

[steel grove]

I’ll be real I have no idea how that system works, I wish I could offer help

[bronze mirage]

Helios and CVR

[eager monolith]

What if those arguments are repeated because they work?

[winged escarp]

Stop playing vrchat.

[hoary gate]

Recent Reviews:
Overwhelmingly Negative (22,180 reviews)
You guys are so done.
you have made so many people angry. many have already gotten rid of their vrc +

[rigid cosmos]

CVR servers couldn't support the demand for people. They have been having maintenances to scale to support the demand

[fossil idol]

No furball.

[umbral reef]

Reporting? The CIA hitsquad (or FBI if your in america itself) is on its way already to blow up your PC and all other electronics

[vocal shard]

There is anthrax in your solid state drive

[open crescent]

the rumours were fearmongering by the same angry people trying to boycott, it was never "unsafe"

[umbral reef]

Nono there is a SSD in my anthrax

[flint girder]

yo?!?! time to crack mine open and have a nice whiff 😎

[sharp saddle]

Dude, I just got home. This is the first thing I've said pretty much all day.

[open crescent]

I'm talking about the rumours that if you go to publics then hackers will steal your credit card and go to your house and etc whatever bs was circulating.

[vernal crane]

We know, Epic Games made it. That's why it is malware.

[livid remnant]

i mean, i wouldn't say it isn't unsafe, but this "safety" doesn't really fix it. it's about as dangerous as any other open lightly regulated corner of the internet.

if people want true "safety" they should play horizon worlds lmao

[river epoch]

Why is nineteen eighty four blacklisted, I get timed out for 20 minutes if I say it

[glacial isle]

its a decent read
mostly because people use it to describe the mo'deration here

[river epoch]

It is nineteen eighty four tho

[open crescent]

but since you mentioned it, mods are unsafe, yes

[sharp saddle]

All I said. Was. Have an original argument.

[peak mauve]

ah yes, a multibillionaire company is "clearly" spreading malware

[vernal crane]

At the same time, every game that has EAC somehow won't even open on my pc

[steel grove]

I absolutely love your pfp :D

[sharp saddle]

Calling someone "ableist" just because they have nothing negative to say about the update is pretty low and makes absolutely no sense. I just want people to be original with their arguments.

[river epoch]

Then why censor nineteen eighty four??? That is just playing the part lmao

[open crescent]

it's because of all the screechers constantly spamming it, unfortunately

[umbral reef]

People mass spam it and shitposted with it, throwing it in the bot filter is easier then dealing with the heaps of spam

Nah just get better at insulting 😎

[cursive lava]

when will cvr port over to quest?
also can someone send me the discord

[umbral reef]

Well better get going then
Where is the fun of being on the internet if your not throwing some low jabs at people
I hope you get this is sarcasm btw

[bronze bough]

Oh okay

[golden rose]

Ok

[umbral reef]

Ironic then or w/e
Should see how many people in this community do follow that advice unironically 🙂

[open crescent]

few years maybe? who knows

[worldly lintel]

wsppp

[cursive lava]

hi

[round igloo]

oof, my bf was playing VRC with his rp group and his headset hardcrashed :x

[solid remnant]

speaking of pfps, idk what to set mine as-

[haughty lily]

Isn't Epic Games owned or funded by a certain country in the far east?

[vernal crane]

China?

[void briar]

tencent

[haughty lily]

China is taking a look at your data to determine your social credit

[solid remnant]

Dunno what that would be— but I’ll try

[void briar]

[peak mauve]

determining how many bitches VRC players get

[nocturne lodge]

[vernal crane]

Non-related to the EAC issue, how do I fix SteamVR not opening at all? Already reinstalled it several times and I don't even know how to get it to open. I'm on Windows 11.

[still grove]

Gen 2 is solo chull xD

[haughty lily]

Soon, you can no longer take pictures of others' avatars standing in front of a tank column

[peak mauve]

god damn 💀 💀

[queen sorrel]

least gen 2 died down but gen one is crazy still

[spring canyon]

I don't think I've ever seen a 2 minute cooldown in a server before

[steel grove]

I like to imagine that it’s just a bunch of chihuahuas barking at each other in gen 1

[queen sorrel]

rip the vrc community though at the very least 60% will be gone

xdd

maybe not i seen some peeps get away with it but this chat is not as active

true its vrc + all over again

thats a new thing they be spammin

[vocal shard]

VRC+ is no-where near the backlash here because it is avoidable. Unfortunately this isn't

[queen sorrel]

yah but each one was a big issue this one might kill the game though for sure the player base

[open crescent]

lots of people love to make tantrums, it'll be fine (as long as vrchat keeps their word)
(55,000 people online rn)

[queen sorrel]

were you getting the number from the bot dont seem to be working

[open crescent]

the bot is working fine just look at the user list

[meager solstice]

https://metrics.vrchat.community/?orgId=1

[queen sorrel]

nvm 55071 online

[ivory harness]

I wasn't here during the VRC+ debacle, but this is a loss of functionality that competition could use to overtake VRC if the dev team continues to double down.

[open crescent]

"most hated"
55000 players online
k buddy

[vocal shard]

[earnest chasm]

How to make your game one of the most hated things on Steam with just one (1) update

1. Add EAC in an update
2. Lock all threads and remove messages about it in the Discord server
3. Refuse to elaborate

[final orbit]

This is a sad situation cuz it could spell the end for vrc

[sharp saddle]

Test, we need to hang out in VR someday.

[queen sorrel]

22,526 negative as of recently

[open crescent]

lmao yeah it feels like vr is a good way to escape the constant screeching
(oh how things have changed, before it was the quest kids screeching)

[sharp saddle]

Agreed.

[umbral reef]

I hope you dont go into data science with the points you drew those lines--
Not wrong in the statement, just reallly bad lines

[cobalt venture]

The quest kids got most attention from the devs in recent months, little to no care for rest

[umbral reef]

It still hurts my soul who did nothing beside cry about data before i had my vacation

[glacial isle]

also consider that theres way more people playing during weekends

[carmine cape]

you got to remember there is always a downward trend after the weekend, we will only really know for sure once we get to the weekend again

[open crescent]

the tantrum making mob like to think they are the majority of users, but it seems clear they are not

[round igloo]

yeahh that was one thing I wanted to point out as well, I think a longer term graph would be a better reference; i.e comparing previous weeks vs just seperate days of this one, since more people are going to be on around the weekend

[umbral reef]

Most people dont write revieuws for fun though do they-
People almost always complain more then that they provide good feedback

[open crescent]

55,000 players online look at how dead it is (also those are only recent reviews, overall reviews are still positive)

[earnest chasm]

Y'know this isn't a bad game, but the rampant nickle-and-dime hell and absolute hostility against mods makes this a never-buy. Give your money to someone more deserving.

[cyan shell]

Hello

[umbral reef]

Nah, 3 data points only and have them all be picked at different days, timezones and events
That is how you get the truth out of the data you know

[smoky anvil]

Lmfao yeah, 22,000 overwhelmingly negative recent reviews and it's only been what, less than 48hrs?

[lyric eagle]

"makes this a never-buy"

game is free

[sharp saddle]

It's from a review for GTA V in 2017.

[earnest chasm]

this is actually Tuppers comment. This is his review he left on GTA 5. LMAO

[lyric eagle]

valid comment, but gta isnt free

[umbral reef]

Ohno he judged a single player game where you run everything locally for not allowing you to mod!
Wait let me guess he did the same for other single player games 🙂 ?
Almost like that aint the same thing

[earnest chasm]

okay but the patreaon and vrc+ is? Charging a sub and spitting in your communities face isnt the way to go. And then dont even start on the mods comment.

[carmine cape]

yeah i was going to say this

[open crescent]

vrchat doesn't have a patreon

[lyric eagle]

you choose to pay for that, it isnt required for you to play the game. Dont like it? Cancel your subscription. Your money will no longer be wasted

[earnest chasm]

someone else mentioned a patreon to me, i only subbed through steam to vrc. @lyric eagle No worries there majority of the community including me, has unsubbed.

[open crescent]

there is no patreon, whoever said that to you lied.

[fervent meteor]

Neither am I

[lyric eagle]

the fact that you bring in a fact to an argument simply from something you've heard from someone without doing any prior research is exactly why the majority of people against this update look like idiots

[charred jackal]

@covert chasm so uh why didnt you tell us like a month before adding this?
i doubt you guys decided on it and implemented it in less then 24 hours so clearly y'all had time to talk

[round igloo]

but are you fried, roasted, grilled or broiled?

[open crescent]

based on the tantrum, the reaction would have been exactly the same so it doesn't matter

[fervent meteor]

Depends on my mood tbh. Some days I like fried gyoza, other days I like grilled, once and awhile I will go for boiled/steamed

[lyric eagle]

not because the update is a good decision for the playerbase (it isnt in my opinion), but all the arguments being made against it are unbelievably shallow and baseless

[fresh merlin]

how is it shallow to let disabled people play vr

[umbral reef]

Risky-

[tight flax]

VRC management team is so far out of touch they might just be boomers trying to grab bank from Facebook partnership regarding the whole quest integration.

Like this game is going to be 100% quest if they don't improve with the QOL stuff in the coming 2 weeks.

[carmine cape]

a lot of the mods disabled players used can be recreated with overlay app or OSC. is not as bad as some people are saying

[round igloo]

The argument the staff gave seemed (paraphrasing, so don't quote me on this) to imply that if they gave that much of a warning, then people would have already made workarounds before the update's release (?) at least that's what I got from it. That kind of confuses me though since if there's that big of a concern of workarounds, doesn't it kind of mean that that's just going to happen regardless, and it's just a matter of when, or?

[lyric eagle]

they're not stopping disabled people from playing vr, they never have been and never will be and they are very clear about pushing for official improvements to make it much easier. Exactly what ewrt is saying

[earnest chasm]

this discord server hides anythign that calls out thee devs. but there it is lmao . subs have been offered for how long with little to no content added afterwards. then they get a huge investment and randomly want to ban mods and give players everything theyve been requestion since 2017? yeah maybe in the next ten years. lol

[umbral reef]

Sure but read the blogpost actually

[quasi snow]

No mods. No worries. Plenty of extra salt to give me a heart attack.

[carmine cape]

a lot of the mods disabled players used can be recreated with overlay app or OSC. is not as bad as some people are saying

[fresh merlin]

who's gonna recreate it if creators are leaving

[earnest chasm]

lmaooo so these people who only had a quality of life through vr just get shidded on while they wait for vrc to maybe or MAYBE NOT actually do it, and do it to the extent the modders already have? @lyric eagle

[high rain]

They also mentioned botnets which makes me wonder if there was some legal exposure or something

[umbral reef]

I got all these bags of salt now i can sell and buy VRC+ from

@violet elmShould also stop wearing a seatbelt then or get vacines then 🙃
Those are also not fool proof so why would we ever use them

[open crescent]

mods have been banned from the start many years ago that is nothing new, and vrc+ is optional with some non essential features as stated from the beginning

[charred jackal]

that kinda sounds like them coping if im being honest

[earnest chasm]

then were is our sub money going? to which resources? EAC now years later AFTER a huge investment? see where im going?

[umbral reef]

Udon, Ik2, Dynamic bones?

@violet elmdw i also got muted already for saying clown stuff.
apparently im bad at licking boots

[charred jackal]

maybe im being optimistic but i imagine they could've launched the update with all the stuff people want(or atleast some of them) if they had talked about it sooner

[lyric eagle]

@short egret They have been 100% clear from the very beginning that any modification, no matter how noble, is not allowed within the game. They did not support these "modifications," even from the very beginning. People broke the rules to make it easier, and now VRChat is preventing you from breaking the rules. But only now are you calling them discriminatory. They have implemented other features to achieve similar results through OSC.

@earnest chasm Maybe don't rely on a free virtual space to dictate your entire life worth, especially when said life worth is almost entirely (for some reason) based on a modification breaking the rules...

[open crescent]

were you under the impression vrchat was a charity?
because they are not and never have been
Also they have to pay their employees as any company.
and their investors that is not free money
And they have released several different features and the game keeps improving don't be ridiculous.
At this point you are sounding like a troll

[earnest chasm]

im speaking for the disabled community and the ASL community .

[carmine cape]

if the people that worked on the QQL mods put the same effort to overlay, API and OSC systems we wouldnt have this problem, people instead just got upset and refuse to do anything other than yell and complain. this is like the network ik update drama just x1000

[fresh merlin]

why should they. months of their work is useless now

[lyric eagle]

Are you deaf, hard of hearing, or unable to speak?

[umbral reef]

Your sub money went to those things though- Dont forget OSC allows a lot of things to be done like word clouds next to avatars or other things.

[earnest chasm]

im speaking not for myself currently. i have a life outside of vr. but theres allot of people who rely on vr to have a life. and vrc is literally spitting in those communities faces. My friends are. i have mute and deaf friends.

[round igloo]

What's people's general take on EAC impacting performance, btw? I've heard some people saying it doesn't, other people saying it does.. Some people saying it won't impact people much if they're already running higher spec machines, but those of us on lower ones might see more of a decrease in FPS?

I hope that if they're planning on putting all of development's focus on accessibility options as they said, then they'll be working on optimization after that. I'm running an oooold card (980ti) but have been able to actually get quite nice fps at a low resolution when I've played in the past, but I know my bf was having some issues running it today on his 1660 super that he wasn't having previously.

[vivid trellis]

bruh 2 min cd 💀

[warm harbor]

anyone wanna play

[quasi snow]

:I Why do disabled people us VRchat anyways. Aren't there better platforms for them?

[umbral reef]

The normal impact for EAC games is between like 1 and 5%. VRC is for sure on the low end with it and people complaining about performance just dont really understand how these things work.
It will lower it a tiny bit but nothing major should happen

[fresh merlin]

huh are u saying people can only speak for a group if they are part of it? that's how segregation starts

[warm harbor]

hello! anyone wanna play

[charred jackal]

ignorant and braindead take stop talking

[earnest chasm]

@lyric eagle its obvious you've never really talked to someone disabled or mute or deaf in the community. maybe you should take some time to get to know someone and listen to their woes. you dont hvae to personally be disabled to be a voice for them . honestly you seem ableist .

[carmine cape]

not all of the work is useless, a lot of it can just be moved over/ported. and it has been known that mods aren't allowed and they could of been working on alternatives for months even years at this point.

VRCX is a example of a API tool that still works and is very much in the quality of life space

[open crescent]

people have been banned all the time for mods since the beginning. There's always (here in this discord ) angry kids screeching about how their ban was unfair because they only used a mod etc

uses mods
gets banned because mods against the rules
pikachu face

[lyric eagle]

That is absolutely not how segregation starts, but I wont get into that...

@short egret So you're telling me you're angry because you can't break the rules anymore. I'm also very offended by that last comment because my best friend of 16 years has lived with deaf parents his entire life and Im VERY familiar with the deaf community and how vocal THEY like to be about their own problems rather than letting other people pretend to know what they deal with.

[round igloo]

oo alrighty. and thank you for your take on it and the information you've been providing. :'] you've been really respectful from what i've seen, and I appreciate that when a lot of people on both sides of the new update have been flinging insults and such aaa

[fresh merlin]

your experience cannot be applied to a whole community

[small smelt]

alright what the fuck is going on here

[lyric eagle]

and neither can anybody elses, which is exactly why i dont pretend to get offended over a decision that Im not affected by

[eternal prairie]

The new update is cursed

[earnest chasm]

this

[quasi snow]

No Mods. No worries. Watch the rats scurry.

[warm harbor]

Anyone wanna play

[open crescent]

it's certainly given people content to make videos and articles it's all over the place
but people are still playing it, so it seems fine.

[lyric eagle]

honestly, ive been playing these last few days and I haven't run into a single toxic pc elitist the entire time, its quite nice

[fresh merlin]

are u implying i'm pretending to get offended and i am not affected by it?

[eternal prairie]

God vrchat needs to do something about all the 5 Year olds running around screaming racial slurs like rec room

[lethal fern]

Remove EAC

[thorn lynx]

VRChat is a social game where 90% of the things in the game are user generated, banning mods on a user generated game is rather idiotic, is it not? i feel as if this situation could've been more thought through to only attack malicious modders instead of ALL modders

[umbral reef]

Im a proper grade Ahole really though 😉 but mainly because i find it funny to say clown worthy stuff back to people who say whack things.
I also dont like the update but i been long enough around and active within the community to know the doom isnt as big as people think.

Give the devs like a week and if things aint clear and started being worked on we got an actual reason to get pissed.

[lyric eagle]

Im implying that many people are, yes. I don't know your situation personally which is why im not referring to you specifically.

[fervent meteor]

Yo, this is false. Disko is one of the NICEST people I have ever met in this game. And slandering someone for speaking about the rules which have been in place since day one is not okay. Disko speaks to EVERYONE, and I think you are projecting a bit

[open crescent]

player count almost at 56000, has just been increasing the past hours, it doesn't seem to be dying sir

[quasi snow]

@thorn lynx I have no problem with it.

[earnest chasm]

THIS and once everyone leaves,. there will be no one to create anything for VRC.

[thorn lynx]

the world does not revolve around you

[opal cedar]

yuh

[umbral reef]

No joke, this is about the 16th time 'everyone left' or 'all creators will stop making content' 💀
Them lame creators leaving just get instantly replaced by upcomming tallent each and every time

[quasi snow]

@thorn lynx Nor you it seems. Bit more on my end however.

[round igloo]

aww that's nice to hear at least; I have a rift S myself, but it always bums me out to see people being rude towards Quest users just because of the equipment they're using; Not everyone can afford a pc, especially with the GPU price gouging that was going nuts up until recently

also I can totally agree that I think there are people pretending to be upset and trolling both for and against the update to stir the pot rn omg, some of the new users I've seen makes me wonder if there was a 4chan raid or smth lmao

[earnest chasm]

hes literally defending everything thats been argued about thats been something that has helped disabled players even be able to PLAY their game. if that makes you sleep well at night ok. but mods like these were not the malicious mods vrc is trying to "protect" us from.

[open crescent]

yes well they went from 3 players to more than 1000 concurrent, currently at 500 and still that's very good for them.
vrchat is still very much alive tho

[reef tendon]

Kinda wish they'd actually leave though lol. It would make the game more enjoyable

[umbral reef]

What they gonna do? finally release that UI update that was promised 2 years ago and was there next (and only) planned major update?

@reef tendonHaving a new group of world creators being well known is IMO a really good thing. Every time it has happened better people got known then before what resulted in better worlds.

[lyric eagle]

Again, I'm not saying its correct, and I dont agree with it. But the fact of the matter is it's in the rules and they're enforcing their rules which you agreed to. If you want to fight it that's perfectly fine but dont go around calling VRChat devs "Abelist" and "Not in touch with their community." Actually formulate a strong argument as to why mods are helpful and how they can be properly integrated. Whether that be through the Steam Workshop, or through other methods.

[fervent meteor]

WOAH. You WILLINGLY signed the TOS to play this game. Willingly, the fact that you would even compare this to slavery is demeaning

[earnest chasm]

all the major creators and modders are leaving tho. so vrc about to be a hella boring shell. Ghostland . filled with 12 year olds

[open crescent]

that's how TOS work, if you play the game that counts as agreeing to the TOS

[round igloo]

oh god yeah yikes.. I'm not in favor of the update either, but comparing VRC's ToS to slavery is all kinds of tone deaf, wot :')

[umbral reef]

You might have not been around before but the dude has two shots at not ruining a community before and messed up the first time big time.
Then worked hard to try the second time and still messed it up-
There is a reason he only had 20 peak users weekly.
(And he made big big bank back then too with the game being in closed beta unless you paid)

[lyric eagle]

you signed it the day you signed up for the game, everybody does... You just didn't read it.

@short egret I lost about 40 mods I genuinely enjoyed, and I'm also pretty angry about it. But im not doxxing the devs or calling them slurs.

[opal cedar]

Let’s follow that up with the hard part: we are going to be releasing this update, and we do not have plans or intent to revert or roll it back. vrc update on steam. Tubber kinda weird weird man

[earnest chasm]

i didnt call a dev abliest, unless you're one, i said you were. because of how you've been defending things against the disabled community. "vrc is god, their rules slurp slurp"

[fervent meteor]

“PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING TERMS CAREFULLY. BY CLICKING “I ACCEPT,” OR BY USING THE PLATFORM OR ANY PART OF THE PLATFORM, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE READ, UNDERSTOOD, AND AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THIS TOU. If you are not eligible, or do not agree to this TOU, then you do not have our permission to use the Platform or any part of the Platform.”

[open crescent]

I'm taking a look at 56000 players online, game seems fine

[violet scarab]

slowmode be like

[thorn lynx]

saying "Why do disabled people us VRchat anyways. Aren't there better platforms for them?" was an insane take. only shows your ignorance

[fervent meteor]

Then why are you fighting for something that you have no say in?

[earnest chasm]

yesss this!!

[open crescent]

only time will tell, my prediction: it'll be fine

[lyric eagle]

If you think this update has anything against the disabled community you need to rethink how you come to a conclusion about anything LOL

[umbral reef]

Like its great we got competition, i fucking love that, look at neos!
But my dude, if it maybe was a different person running that ship CVR would have a shot.

The dude makes insane promises he knewhe could not follow and suprisingly failed to follow them...
A lot of CVR problems are also major core problems that some mods wont solve any time soon

[earnest chasm]

the investors watching all this like

[fervent meteor]

I don’t understand people like you that just join things because you like drama

[open crescent]

I have no idea who that is
did you watch thrillseeker's video? he is also a big content creator and he speaks fairly of both sides of the argument

[cloud apex]

if they broke NDA and told us whats coming, and what people in the company are working on, im sure much less people would have a problem with this...

[tacit hearth]

Its some ordinary gamers

[earnest chasm]

I never said the update itself had anything against the disabled community. Don't know how you interpreted that. I said adding EAC and not adding the needed programs for the disabled community FIRST is a huge slap in the face. especially for the percentage that literally use vr to live. they should have pushed out these alternatives for their platform before forcing EAC out first ..

[fervent meteor]

Not saying that I do? Just saying that I don’t understand why you do this. Does drama help you sleep at night?

[open crescent]

ah, not interested in that guy's videos tbh nothing personal against him just doesn't seem interesting to me

[umbral reef]

You didnt read there announcement right?
Beside that wanna bet that within the next 24hish we get an announcement saying what they are actually working on and maybe even a FAQ?

[lyric eagle]

dude this is like 30-40% of the people here right now, its kind of ridiculous. I've got API dataloggers on actual server population and its only about a 7-10% dip, and 95% of them are on pc. Everyone here is a vocal minority

[cloud orbit]

!online

[vocal shard]

It's Meta, not Quest

[tacit hearth]

He makes technical deep dives and makes an honest point that EAC in general is absolute dogwater at what it says it does

[fervent meteor]

How nice of you to recognize my community ❤️

[cloud apex]

what about all 90% of the features each dev is working on (which they dont currently have working / a release date) that they are not allowed to tell us because of NDA

[boreal marsh]

last announcement was yester in 4h tho

[umbral reef]

Nah me and me alone is the vocal majority

@short egretThere announcement times are whacky as fuck, as an EU person they can drop updates past midnight for me or super early in the morning. Or really just whenever. Its whacky

[earnest chasm]

@lyric eagle

[lime charm]

They will still be the company regardless of whether or not Facebook is involved with meta by name because the same lizard still runs the show

[sterile delta]

August 2nd, 2022. 3:43 PM EST.

[fervent meteor]

dude this is like 30-40% of the people here right nowits kind of ridiculous. I've got API dataloggers on actual server population and its only about a 7-10% dip, and 95% of them are on pc. Everyone here is a vocal minority

[umbral reef]

Kinda funny to see who worked techsupport or service desk jobs react to whats going on and people who didnt

[boreal marsh]

please tell us your findings

[peak mauve]

Most of them will come back anyways

[lyric eagle]

only the vocal minority leaves reviews after thousands of hours in the game they enjoyed so much

@earnest chasm I can't change your mind, so i've kind of just given up on the conversation

[queen sorrel]

kromia seems to have now moved to neos

[vocal shard]

Hi Senko

[umbral reef]

Those people grasp how angry people and vocal minorities work a lot better then those who dont.
People only really get loud when they dont like things and dont say anything if they like something. Also why its hard to get good opinions on things if you dont want an 'unbias' group

[fervent meteor]

True

[lime charm]

You do realize that people who are unhappy can still play? Right?

[open crescent]

remember vrchat has hundreds of thousands maybe millions of players, the tantrum gang is not the majority

[peak mauve]

henlo Rin

[earnest chasm]

You realise pc users are the majority and they are leaving because of this right? quest users are an insanely small percentage .

[lyric eagle]

well, considering more than half of the game's population is completely unaffected by this update and do not own a steam account, I think I have a pretty strong idea of what a minority is.

[umbral reef]

Quest and other oculus software users have been like 50% of the playerbase for a fair while

[viscid grail]

Hear me out cvr instead

[vocal shard]

Welcome to day 2 of EAC drama

[tacit hearth]

Not everyone is going to just drop the game people are voicing there thoughts go into a lobby with long time players and ask people there opinion on the update

[queen sorrel]

fun stuff

[leaden edge]

Well Technically day 3 for me atleast

[earnest chasm]

id like a link too on what theyre looking at

[peak mauve]

we don't have general 1.5 anymore

[lyric eagle]

this could not be more untrue, just look at the steamdb numbers versus vrchat population api numbers. Quest makes up about 65% of all total users.

@short egret go on steamdb.com, search vrchat, and check the steam population from last week. Compare it to the VRCBot on your right and you'll see.

[modern hinge]

good soup

[vocal shard]

I just noticed. No more heaven replica

[umbral reef]

Id rather spin a wheel with hot takes on it. That spinning sign would be better informed and tell me less lies 💀
Like this community is impressive in how badly they understand basic concepts and eat up lies

Not hard when your weekly peak is the same 20 people 💀

[earnest chasm]

you also gotta realise allot of the marked "quest users" are cabled linked to their pc.

[leaden edge]

Not hard when cvr had a concurrent userbase of like 30.

[peak mauve]

Most of them will come back due to lack of content and good servers to handle all this

[severe geyser]

All my homies hate VRChat and the way it's treating it's community but we hate people who enjoy being dicked by the big man even more. The update was a net negative for everyone and defending it is completely moronic. Hopefully one day you'll see how stupid you're being. BUT I doubt it.

[lyric eagle]

but did you see that almost TRIPLE of the population isnt even present on steam currently?

@earnest chasm did you *realize that every single person using oculus link without steam is not applicable to this update because they dont use mods?

[umbral reef]

Now the wait for the UI update went from 2 years to 2 more years 💀

[peak mauve]

Yes I do realize that, but the lack of content will be really noticeable after people will start actually getting into their game (they're on maintenance right now)

[earnest chasm]

yeah but it is to players like me, who do play through steam on my pc cable linked.

[lyric eagle]

im not saying its popular, im just saying many people wont even see the update on their devices because they dont own a pc. I think you refuse to believe that less than 30% of people who play the game will even care

[peak mauve]

I know how stupid I am already, thanks for pointing that out.
I am here just sharing my thoughts on the update and this game's future, which is anyways going to be bright, because of it's overall popularity.

[earnest chasm]

and thats why so many people are in uproar. because the people who are affected by the update are understandably pissed. you have a very "it doesn't affect me it doesn't matter mentality"

[severe geyser]

Not looking too bright right now.

[lyric eagle]

right, but many people who are in uproar think the game is dying, which it isnt

[umbral reef]

Happy people aint be spamming chats or making petitions--

Even if its just 10%, thats still a few thousand users who can be loud
Does not mean its a really insane number

[earnest chasm]

definitely will once everyone realizes all content creators, avi creators, world creators dip. give it a little time and for chilloutvr to get on their feet.

[severe geyser]

Sooner they dip the better. VRChat is a platform that doesn't care about it's community and it's both really funny and really sad watching these people defend this update. It's really, really pathetic.

[violet scarab]

a

[peak mauve]

And that's not the first time VRChat having controversies like this one, no :)
When they've added VRC+ into the game people were mad as well, because they've asked money for a literal in-game Nitro-like subscription.
And in my opinion, this game's community is extremely toxic, and sadly there's nothing much VRC can do about that.

[lyric eagle]

they think the devs have no idea what they're doing and have made an unbelievably stupid decision when they're some of the only goddamn people in this game who know how to look at the bigger picture and make a calculated decision based on risk.

World creators and avatar creators SPECIFICALLY will stay where the people are. Statistically, we can see the people are still on vrc.

[earnest chasm]

okay lets better put it this way the game is becoming a GHOST LAND * not dying, it will be softly gasping for life uwu

[fervent meteor]

We should start a club. The stupid people club! we could hold an election for president

[compact tapir]

I agree, more people just actually need to move over to different platforms and bring new content to them as well (worlds and avatars)

[lyric eagle]

which they wont do, because theres no secure sdk, no population, and unstable servers

[umbral reef]

Its kinda annoying to see this exact same argument for 4 years in a row now for most major updates 🙃
Like im talking about the exact same, with claims of alternative apps being the new main platform and all

[orchid crest]

Also VRC alternatives aren’t accessible to everyone

[compact tapir]

You think vrchat is any better? A game littered with crashers. And don't even say anti cheat will fix it. Cause it won't

[earnest chasm]

EAC wont fix the crasher avis xD GLWS. the mods actually helped reduce crashers.

[lyric eagle]

honestly, right? this happened during the avi 3.0 update, the crossplay update, and now this!

@compact tapir on a technicality level vrchat is not better. However, vrchat has a stable population and quest support

[orchid crest]

Anyone on quest won’t be able to play with any of their friends that move over unless they get ported to quest which most likely wont happen

[umbral reef]

Dont forget like the 20 avatar updates, FBT update(s), safety feature update

[compact tapir]

Fair enough, I'm just saying if people are seriously tired of vrchat they just need to actually take action and play different games. And for quest support if let's say, chillout vr, receives a lot of new players and quest support is frequently asked. They'll do it. I'm just done with the vrc dev team tbh

[lyric eagle]

Right, but vrc didnt get any less accessible. the nearly 60,000 people on right now will tell you that.

[vocal shard]

at least neos has badges for disabilities (vision impaired, hard of hearing, etc)

[leaden edge]

Does cvr have accessibility features? Genuinely curious

[pliant harbor]

they have mod lmao

[open crescent]

they also have criptocoins :/

[vale rivet]

Ah yes, crypto-neos, the saviour of us all 😂

[glacial isle]

worst part about the update is EACs performance impact and how intrusive it is

[earnest chasm]

This this this!!!!!!! lmaooooooo already funding cvr and everyone else who wants to move. the biggest modders are moving over there too . @leaden edge modders are moving their mods to cvr so yes it will be

[umbral reef]

Apparently fully removed now, the Crypto CEO is still CEO though
But ingame its apparently all removed

[lyric eagle]

they are absolutely not here, they're in the headset playing VRChat. I don't know how you came to that conclusion. The number is right over there

[orchid crest]

My point is most people won’t switch to alternatives due to a large percentage of the playerbase not having alternatives. I’m in no way defending the devs on this, I’m just stating that vrc probs won’t be replaced. Devs are hopefully going to reverse this, especially with all the backlash.

[open crescent]

I like that neos lets you edit worlds from inside the game, but the crypto shit really put me off
the neosvr website has a section on crypto it doesn't seem to be gone

[vale rivet]

Development is still not gonna resume. The devs literally don't own the game anymore.

[earnest chasm]

i just scrolled on the right and I see everyone on spotify, gta, mw, unity. but only a couple on vrc xD if you're talking about the sever currently.

[lyric eagle]

VRCBot, playing vrchat with 57426 users.

[umbral reef]

Well that makes me hopeless for it again- Neos is kinda the only competitor i want to see work because of the cool stuff that can be done with it.
Not a game i recommend for most or play myself but damn

[vocal shard]

At the end of the day, I'd still play VRChat

[earnest chasm]

only 57k users on at this time? low for a wed night. ill really be impressed if the numbers are the same over the weekend.

[open crescent]

look at the bot, "VRCBot", it tells you the user count, and it's 57426, very much not a dead game

[silent abyss]

Kind of sad that all of this is happening the day i finally become a half-body

[compact tapir]

It's this mindset of just "putting up" with the vrc dev team that's what causing this problem. Time and time again devs make bad decisions, but people still play their game. Why? Cause you are right, it's literally the only viable all access platform currently. For that to change we actually need to spread out and try new platforms such as chillout or neos

[tropic sentinel]

enjoy the fun

[peak mauve]

≈57699 total players, with ≈18135 of them being online on Steam + ≈39564 Quest Standalone/Oculus Store and online on the website itself

[vale rivet]

Yea, talked to a board member of Neos a few days ago, basically ol' cryptobro owns the game and wants to make it a crypto-nft hell, but the devs won't do that, so it's just gonna die or become a cryptohell with new devs.

[silent abyss]

going to try. just blue screened. according to the steamvr test, i should blame my graphics card

[umbral reef]

Well good thing about the influx, VRC people fucking hate crypto and this community is vile against things it hates.
So the dude would get a proper shock if he dares to push things now

[tropic sentinel]

whhat graphics card u got?

[orchid crest]

We would spread out if we could but Quest users can’t unless they have a pc capable of handling vr, which most don’t. I’m not saying everyone should stay on VRC and just put up with it. We should definitely be trying to get the devs to undo this

[vast urchin]

why did they add anti cheat how am i going to hack the game now

[open crescent]

competition is good of course. only the next days will tell if vrc keeps their word or not, but it's a load of bs that they hate their users and al the insults they are getting

[peak mauve]

so it's not that dead imo

[lyric eagle]

you didnt even know that number existed until i told you where to look, stop with the horseshit

@short egret many are afk, obviously not many are here. Many also are in game.

thank you @peak mauve

[visual dew]

need help something about api network

[light dust]

this is wrong theres a job listing some where on there site for cypto related stuff

[compact tapir]

Hopefully other platforms work on quest compatibility then, cause I agree many people use quest to play vr as it's relatively cheap and easy to use. A shame vrchat has a hold on it. I suspect Facebook or excuse me, Meta, wants that

[earnest chasm]

^

[light dust]

vr-quest any one ?

[open crescent]

https://jobs.lever.co/vrchat/71b4e371-44cf-49b7-b040-9569ce8ad571 please read it

While we do not intend to enter the blockchain/crypto space, experience in emerging financial technologies would likely be relevant.

don't spread misinformation

[vast urchin]

why did they add anti cheat how am i going to hack the game now

[lyric eagle]

also not true! looking for a senior position with a BONUS EXPERIENCE of crypto and digital currency, most likely for their upcoming currency

[umbral reef]

No there aint
Welcome to the Vrchat community that loves to spread around lies 💀

Check it yourself, they just want someone with experience on these things.
https://jobs.lever.co/vrchat/71b4e371-44cf-49b7-b040-9569ce8ad571

Steam would also remove Vrchat from its platform if it added crypto bullshit and the devs have stated publicly (and as VRchat) that they wont do crypto stuff and think its dumb

[vale rivet]

Ah, that again, the side sentence in the job listing stating qualifications for a compliance operations manager 🙄

[rough egret]

Vrchatbuttcracl

[light dust]

yes they want to move off of steam or have another branch like neos does for crypto

[umbral reef]

Stop lying

[earnest chasm]

lol this, naïve people .

[peak mauve]

Sach has even already replied to that question: #vrchat-general-1 message

[lyric eagle]

it doesnt even say crypto, it just says "Digital currencies" im looking at the job application right now. It's called "research." Pretty crazy!

[light dust]

not lying its what i believe

[vale rivet]

Do you know what a fucking compliance manager does and why they should have experience in dealing with crypto?

[vast urchin]

why did they add anti cheat how am i going to hack the game now? some one plz answer me

[earnest chasm]

watch we gonna have to pay for all these QOL updates. they gonna become micro transactions. "pay just $5 to have global dynamic bones!"

[umbral reef]

Your lying, enough people explained your mistake in accepting the lie, stop spreading it.

Your part of this communities problem in spreading fake information on things and actively harming all of the VR community.

[peak mauve]

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