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wraith atlas
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Wish the unread notification would disappear if the message is deleted... Would solve that problem.

burnt zephyr
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agreed

heavy pulsar
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Would it be possible to add a feature in the VRCSDK, to "bake" dynamic bones movements into the walking and running animations of the player?

Like you add dynamic bone like normally, but the SDK let the Avatar moves with it's default movement animations and add the dynamic bone Transformations while the different walking animations into a custom movement animation that is based on the default but where are added the Transformations of Hairs and skirts from the dynamic bones into the animation and delete the dynamic bones contentment while building the Avatar.

upper plover
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Blender can do that, not dynamic bone specifically, but creating animations from baked physics is a major part of what makes Blender, blender.

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Unity plugins could be made to do similar things with the third party dynamic bone asset, but I wouldn't count on the devs considering that in-scope for the VRCSDK

near nymph
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The UI i have made is not working well: it is like there is a large hitbox around it. I have searched for all possible reasons but couldn't find. Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong?

burnt zephyr
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are there multiple vr UI shapes?

near nymph
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right next to it, but not overlapping, is a box collider used to pick up the item this UI is attached onto

burnt zephyr
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where is the box collider? is it a parent or a child somewhere?

near nymph
burnt zephyr
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nk

near nymph
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the "pickup" box collider is attached to the grey board gameobject, which is the canvas's parent

burnt zephyr
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so how big do the buttons feel? does the unity UI wireframe look bigger than the UI background for the buttons?

near nymph
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so the handle and canvas both have a box collider, but set up so they don't overlap

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what is unity UI wireframe?

burnt zephyr
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the white box of UI space

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its like box collider wireframes

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but for ui

near nymph
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ah yeah

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i did my best to scale things so that is all perfectly sized as should be

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everything is the size it should be

near nymph
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is that a big issue?

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ive compared to my other UI's that don't have this problem, but they have it too

burnt zephyr
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hmm. im not sure then, the buttons are flushed woith the panel?

near nymph
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yup i made sure of that too

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the weird thing is too that the raycasting problem or whatever to call it, only really happens when looking at the buttons dead on

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when aiming from the side it seems to work exactly as intended

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i might just get rid of the UI and replace the buttons with shapes

burnt zephyr
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oh i have seen this issue before. but it never bthered me so i never sought out to fix it, so ihni how one would fix that

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sorry lad

marsh steppe
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Just a theoretical thought, not really related to anything but I'd still like to hear people's thought on this:
Unity has a known issue with large float values, because of the decreasing rounding precision the larger the float gets, something vrc is already having issues with on some large worlds.

Now here's a thought, rather than storing one float vector3 we store 2.
Now whenever the first vector exceeds lets say 10, it'll get decided by 10 and 1 will be added to the second vector.

Now when doing things in reverse to get the real space we simply multiply things back to 10.

This way things would-

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actually, come to think of it, it wouldn't work because the Final number would still have the loss in precision which would still cause rounding errors

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hmm I wonder if there's actually a solution to this issue, other than "allocate more bytes to the vector lol"

near bronze
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yes, that's what it would mean to use 64 bit numbers

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and yes, you can do that but it's more expensive

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and you can't change it at runtime so take your pick

candid owl
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so that would be overkill for the vast majority of worlds

marsh steppe
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I think the only viable way of handling it is to shift the world locally

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actually, I kinda want to run that experiment sometimes to see if I can shift the world instead of the player in vrc

candid owl
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or to have your level design where you can teleport around

marsh steppe
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but the other issue will be other players since they won't be moved

candid owl
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yeah which is why I was contemplating like level design that doesn't require you to do World shifting shenanigans

wraith atlas
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This is why a lot of open-world games in Unity have loading zones.

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But VRChat can't really support a system like that without abusing the crap out of Udon.

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Even then, it would have some issues.

warm niche
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Once vrchat updates to unity 2019... how do I update my projects?

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I know it probably is a few more weeks away yet but... I want to know for when the time comes. Saves me from searching for it on Google and never finding a proper answer.

pine depot
# warm niche Once vrchat updates to unity 2019... how do I update my projects?

When the move to 2019 happens the specific version will likely be linked in the release announcement. You would install that version of unity, change your projects to that version in unity hub and then presumably update your SDKs to the latest given release also. + any additional steps that could be in the announcement.

warm niche
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I don't use unity hub, I use standalone unity.

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If I import my projects into hub, can I still update them?

pine depot
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Yes

warm niche
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Cool, thanks! :+1:

normal harbor
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Have the devs said specifically which version of unity 2019 they'll be updating to? I'd kinda like to pre-install it so I can test stuff ahead of time

manic zealot
proud totem
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Is there anyway to remove the world android build (not whole world) temporary or permanently?

upper plover
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Think very carefully if you want a popular world to become crossplay, there is no going back unless you change blueprints and resubmit to labs

proud totem
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Thanks.

vapid valve
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I think you can send a support ticket to have the quest upload removed but not 100% if someone has had success

hexed sun
dense rose
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i mean at that point you might as well store it in the world files right

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technically it'd work but things like lightmapping completely break and it wouldn't really give you that much

dense rose
silver badger
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Is that something where you would have an automated system uploading VRC Avatar Images?

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I'm curious about more of the use case.

hexed sun
silver badger
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It's there a specific use case?

hexed sun
silver badger
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Oooooo that's a good use. Ok. Makes a lot of sense.

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What I had in mind was a bad idea. So bad I won't repeat it.

patent owl
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Where could I get some help for avatar publishing?

mild magnet
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Need some help with positioning. Anyone here good with VRCPickup, I'd like a pointer.

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This is what it looks like in my hand on desktop, but on my friends avatar in vr it looks fantastic. This is using Exact Gun as the grip point.

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What should I do to fix this, if it's even possible? D:

viscid night
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Also for reference the readme is slightly incorrect, it actually supports 202 500 characters now

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About 405kb per image

silver badger
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That seems really high! I figured with the jpegness it would be much lower.

viscid night
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Theoretically if you go over the max bandwidth for Jpeg you may start to encounter issues

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But given the 3 maps I know it is hasn't reached such limit yet idc

viscid night
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So stuff tends to fit differently and not be... perfect

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Really the only way to make it perfect is some sort of self configuring bone nonsence

hexed shell
tough iris
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Help, please. How do you stop the automatic animation?

hexed shell
fathom frost
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I saw some people simply swap a texture on the face of the avatar when they talk, I wonder how this can be achieved ? Do you need need to do it all on a 3D software or can it be done in unity

fathom frost
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think i found a workaround using a flap object

silver badger
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Is there a way to make there be a surface where I can induce VRC to make a pointer, but redirect all motion/events/clicks/motion to a U# script?

silver badger
hexed shell
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I don't understand what you mean by making a surface a pointer

silver badger
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What I "really" want is say "this surface is a canvas, make it do the point-at thing where there's the glowing orb at the end." And "please report to my udon script the coordinates of that pointer on the canvas" so I can code a shader-based UI.

hexed shell
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I see

silver badger
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I mean I'm cruising now. I have it working in Desktop and VR. It's not great and feels a little clunky but, it should be fine.

wraith atlas
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Before i could even ping the mods lol.

pine oracle
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Anyone have any idea why every camera in my scene uses the depth texture from the main camera? This causes some weird shader issues with the other cameras. I created the excatly same setup in a fresh scene with no problems.

frozen field
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At what trust level does an account have access to the VRChat API?

pale dove
frozen field
pale dove
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It could also just be the api being weird

frozen field
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Possibly. In the mean time I’m just leaving up my new account :)

frozen field
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or maybe it has to do with age?
idk.
account is new user now and still can't access api

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weird

warm niche
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I have concerns about VRchat - is voice traffic encrypted?

viscid night
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I do not believe so

rigid jay
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Photon supports it. Don't know if it's on.

golden sky
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If you’d concern is security, this is probably not the game for you. 🥲😅

timber mason
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is anybody having trouble launching the game since the update?

lyric spire
sharp meteor
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Is there any way I can get the reference to VRChat's scriptable object for "FX Controller" field in the VRC_AvatarDescriptor(This is a unity tool I am making, not UDON)

naive peak
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I haven't posted any of my tools in a while, used to post them in #avatar-showcase but here feels more appropriate I guess, so here's one.

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ControllerFix
A Tool that serves to edit Controllers and Animation Clips to fix somewhat obscure issues

  • (Unity 2019) Fixes Pasted and Duplicated assets hideflags (Shows in inspector). Can be used on pre-existing controllers and applies it on runtime during editing too.
  • Turns clips with one start frame to two frames
  • Turns off Loop time on constant clips
  • Turns off Transition to self on Any state transitions to states with constant motions
  • Adds buffer to states with no motion

https://github.com/Dreadrith/DreadScripts/releases/download/Scripts/ControllerFix.unitypackage

sharp meteor
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@naive peak thank you so much!

sharp meteor
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I cannot access field "runtimeAnimatorController" are you explicitly using System.Reflection to access the field or am I accessing the wrong class?

Here is what I am currently using.

Edit: Found the field with object explorer, thanks to your message 😄

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naive peak
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👍
Can never remember all field names lol. Glad you got it

sharp meteor
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While we do some cool stuff within the editor, what's your take on using a framework for writing and extracting from VRChat's SDK components? I am making a one click install for one of my assets(A VRC Marker and annotation feature for 3.0 avatars)? 😄

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Basically I made a helper class for easily adding and removing VRChat Avatar parameters, expression menus, and FX layers. Here is one of the method's I've written to easily add new expression menus. While the SDK doesn't have commentary/annotations on methods it's still in theory on what I am doing, but that's where my fun begins soon when I do some testing and document it myself!

VRChat Avatar Asset Installer for your custom assets and prefabs

Creators can use this to make installation of their assets much easier.

Features so far that are working:
** General **
-Procedural backup of files before they're modified.
** Animation Controllers **
-Copy in layers from another controller onto FX controller for installing your asset's layers required to function.
-Run a text based report(for now) on animation states missing a transition and or the animation clip.
** Avatar 3.0 Features **
-Add parameters into VRC Expressions Parameters and Animation controller Parameters programmatically
-Add new menu items into VRC Expressions Menu programmatically.
-Rename parameters across the VRC expressions menu, animator controller, and VRC avatar menu.(No need to manually go across all three and the transitions if you changed your mind! Soon will support updating parameters in animation controllers as well.)
** Armature and GameObject manipulation**
-Locate finger bones within the armature of the provided avatar GameObject and apply prefabs.
-Map and link up constraints from finger to the marker cursor(and any other rigid/constraint object you wish to apply)
** Third Party **

  • Integrates and listens for calls from Lyuma's Avatar 3.0 emulator to provide your own animation controller for testing without having to insert it into the playable layers.
sharp meteor
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Hello VRChat Devs, I need your help please.

Please let me know if this is the correct order for variables on subParameters array for specific menu types:

Parameter field is the primary parameter modified when the menu item is toggled or open/held.
I.e. Parameter field = parameter itself

Sub Parameters for puppets
Sub Parameters for Radial Puppet
0 = Parameter Rotation
Sub Parameters for Two Axis Puppet
0 = Parameter Horizontal
1 = Parameter Vertical
Sub Parameters for Four Axis Puppet
0 = Up
1 = Right
2 = Down
3 = Left

naive peak
sharp meteor
# naive peak That's pretty close to what I do/did

Very cool! Well I am hoping to expand that functionality so I could get to a point where avatar creators can use the install wizard to easily make their assets more appealing to install and use without needing a ton of Unity Knowledge. Basically one click install and good to go. My hand writing marker asset is complex to install for a novice at the moment, but I could make it appealing to everybody with such installer. No need to copy/rewrite the FX layer for your toggles, etc.

naive peak
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I'm trying to look into what you asked above but I'm confused as to what you're asking about lol

sharp meteor
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The only nuisance I see is that I want to add a button onto the VRC Menu editor for the avatar, but that would break TOS as I would modify their SDK. My installer only modifies the settings and assets outside of the SDK at the moment.

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Ok so about that, there is a field called "SubParameters" under the expressions menu control object.

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naive peak
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ah in that case yeah you got the right order

unknown.png
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for the other ones too

sharp meteor
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Yeah just making sure, I will find out when I run the wizard.

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naive peak
lean agate
candid owl
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that looks handy

naive peak
sharp meteor
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Y'all are awesome, thanks for the tools!

silver badger
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Is anyone else getting errors on VRWorld Toolkit's Build Analyzer? Only been happening since switching to 2019

near bronze
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1 just released a new version for 2019, do you have that?

silver badger
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OSNAP

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I got it earlier today

near bronze
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it was very recent haha

silver badger
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Other random question - did they remove support for OSC?

near bronze
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If it doesn't work, that's not on purpose no

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but it can be annoying to set up. You got the launch parameters?

silver badger
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No, I can't figure out how to actually add it to my object? It doesn't appear to be something that can be added anymore. This is not critical. Was a curiosity, after talking to ThousandFaces.

near bronze
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oh right I was all mixed up. Udon doesn't have OSC yet, I was thinking of midi

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it does have midi, it has never had OSC

silver badger
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I mean I couldn't even attach the OSC component... But, that's also good to know. OSC is more versatile for my purposes, but, I guess that's ok. Is OSC geared more for avatars I guess?

near bronze
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OSC is not currently available for avatars either. It is only available in sdk2 worlds, though I'm unsure if that still works

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It was teased at the dev stream that OSC for avatars may come some time in the future, though OSC for udon has several prerequisites so it won't be at the same time

edgy terrace
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Getting a warning each time I import an sdk and the control panel doesnt open at all.

Things im using:
sdk: VRCSDK3-AVATAR-2021.08.04.11.23_Public
Unity: Unity 2019.4.29f1 (64-bit)

Unity Warning CS0168 : The variable 'has three fingers' is declared but never used and [Always] fetching fresh local config

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silk wave
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Sounds like you have both SDK2 and SDK3 in your project. You can't have more than one.

cobalt glacier
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I think this is where I should have asked my question earlier:
I have a rather big issue, I've been building a world, and suddenly when I try to build everything errors out saying *.vrcw doesn't exist. Anybody know how to fix the issue? (sorry if this is the wrong channel)

naive peak
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I recently put out a huge update for my Controller Editor. Here's a gif highlighting some of the best stuff.
Besides the gif, some noteworthy stuff are:

  • Setting newly created Transitions and States default settings
  • Setting newly created Layers default weight.
  • Useful controller features using the window.
  • Disabled layer view scroll reset when editing
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wraith atlas
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Holy heck, where has this tool been all my life?

edgy terrace
silk wave
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Maybe one of avatars you imported into your project had SDK2 files shipped alongside it.

opaque wedge
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anyone who can help me with card physics ? 😄

viscid night
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What specifically about card physics?

austere breach
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Can someone tell me what I need to do to set up a mesh particle that will retain direction on-impact with a collider? (eg; arrows embedding into a wall). The best I've been able to puzzle out is I should use a subemitter to spawn a second particle on-impact rather than expect it to retain direction and kill the original's momentum on-impact, but the subemitted particle just faces in an arbitrary direction.

vapid valve
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Working on the that with footprints atm, still not completely solved but it’s align by velocity

opaque wedge
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I´ve got a problem, im doing a reset script for a deck of cards, so far it works fine but if a 2nd user take a card i cant reset his used card. Anyone who could help ?

lean agate
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Need to transfer ownership first

mighty compass
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does anyone have a way to use "Particle Forge" or "GPU Particles"

near bronze
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I'm not familiar with anything called particle forge, but shader forge might be what you're referring to

mighty compass
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this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvZNVQuLDjI&t=74s

YouTube
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near bronze
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When doing anything with GPU particles, you'll run into two main limitations in vrchat:

1, it has to work with the built in render pipeline. That means no scriptable render pipeline, HD render pipeline, none of those. The unity VFX graph is not compatible with this.

2, you cannot use C# scripts to create compute shaders. This is difficult to work around and anything that comes from the asset store will likely run into this. Instead you have to use tricks with cameras, which can be quite complicated.

mighty compass
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well damn, thanks for the clear and to the point response, thanks, does the GPU prefab system still work?

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from like 2018-19

near bronze
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not sure what you mean by GPU prefab system

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do you mean GPU instancing?

mighty compass
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im asking cause the major updates we have had

near bronze
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yeah, it should still work. Stuff like that uses the trick I mentioned about cameras

mighty compass
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ok, thank you very much

near bronze
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Though it was made for avatars in SDK2.0. The shader itself may be the same, but it's worth mentioning that the setup and interaction with gestures will be completely different in SDK3.0 avatars

mighty compass
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yeah, kinda thought that too, but i know my way around 3.0

muted ore
mighty compass
muted ore
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well no

mighty compass
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okay, i ask cause i think i have it setup right for 3.0 from the video above

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Activate on menu toggle and Reset,Push,Pull on gesture

muted ore
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But you could setup the layers similar to the old animator

mighty compass
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should work, imma be testing it inna few minutes

mighty compass
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Whelp, i give up, i can't get it to work and now when I upload materails get messed up that the arent the same in unity

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OH, now my feet bones are tilted down

frosty dust
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I have the original HTC Vive and want to learn to use Unity. Anyone know of a good resource that will walk me through how to get connectivity in Unity? Every tutorial I have watched seems to have been outdated or incomplete or maybe I just suck but I would still like to learn anyways lol. Video or text walkthroughs with recent Unity versions would be great (the dependencies seem to have changed a lot through different Unity versions). A more relevant discord community would also be very welcome.

tranquil sail
frosty dust
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Joined the discord. Thanks, I appreciate it.

west elk
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Does anyone who is far better at using probuilder than me, have any advice on properly tiling a dome?

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violet willow
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hello! how would i go about checking to see if a player is in desktop, and then making it so if they are, they can press E to interact with something?

stone vortex
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i think disabling the interaction behaviour isn't included by default, but you can always hide the object if the player isn't on the desktop

tranquil sail
barren estuary
# mighty compass yeah, kinda thought that too, but i know my way around 3.0

I made 3.0 package for that GPU particles package, it just gets imported on top of the original package and the instructions for the 3.0 prefab setup are included in my package. It's in the downloads channel in Quantum's discord (the person who made the original package.) If you don't have the server I can DM it to you

mighty compass
barren estuary
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Haha nice, np

woeful oar
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made for fun share

warm niche
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for some reason my cursor collides with a box around my ui buttons but wont allow me to actually use them why is this happening?

viscid night
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UI is not intended to be on certain layers

echo bay
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Yop guys. I made an issue to the Unity teams so they can fix the free mirror built in unity for use in VR. If you have an unity account that would be awesome if you could give your vote to the issue so it get fixed faster 😄
https://issuetracker.unity3d.com/issues/xr-hdrp-planar-reflection-probes-reflection-is-misaligned-for-both-eyes-when-vr-is-enabled

Unity IssueTracker - [XR][HDRP] Planar Reflection Probe's reflectio...

Reproduction steps: 1. Open the user's attached "hdrpportalvr-main.zip" project 2. Load the "PlanarReflectionProbBug" scene 3. Enter...

silk wave
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People won't really bother about it, since that is for HDRP, while VRChat uses Built-in Render Pipeline.

vapid elbow
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Since Udon can't access streaming/resources assets from my understanding, nor has support for unity's video player component, is it possible in any way to play an mp4 file compiled with the world? Would like a prebaked video into it.

last laurel
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Does substance Designer and unity's shadergraph work with VRChat?

near bronze
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substance designer is just a way to make textures, so yes of course

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shadergraph however requires a different rendering pipeline so it is not supported

last laurel
near bronze
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amplify

last laurel
noble folio
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It seems like the system that basically prevents you from moving when pressed against a wall (even though you aren't) just freezes you...

opaque wedge
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Anyone know a code for rbg lighting based on world sounds ?

near bronze
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Udon is able to read and react to audio. The most common way to do this is a prefab called AudioLink

little bridge
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Hello! I'm not sure if this is the right channel for this, but I'm trying to animate the shader of a mirror I've made, but for some reason it doesn't let me change the values, and I've noticed that if I disable the VRC Mirror Reflection script it works, so I'm guessing that the script somehow block the animator...? Is there a way to solve this? I still didn't tried, but I'm guessing one solution would be having a parent with the animator 🤔

little bridge
stoic tapir
little bridge
barren estuary
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This is totally off topic but does discord consistently show that this channel has unread messages even when it doesn't for anyone else? The 'unread messages' symbol comes back pretty much every day no matter what, it's really weird. There's a channel in VRC Traders that does it for me too.

wary ingot
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Several channels in here does that for me

barren estuary
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Huh, that's really weird, good to know it's not just me

wary ingot
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Future request, User support and general-2 tend to blink up when theres nothing new

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🤷 dunno why

barren estuary
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Thanks discord 🙃

tranquil sail
manic zealot
barren estuary
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Is that why? I didn't think it was that common because I don't see it that much in the channels that I do frequent

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Maybe they target less active channels or something?

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I know that can explain it if it just happens here and there, it's just odd that it's every single day without fail, while I can't remember the last time I saw a spam link posted in say #avatar-help. Maybe it always happens while I'm sleeping.

near nymph
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how can i make a VRC World Portal a little smaller in size?

warm niche
dull reef
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alright this is an abstract question, but i'm about to embark on a big project and I'd like to know the feasibility of this idea with performance in mind:

i'm a drummer looking to perform in VR. I have a MIDI controller drum kit, and I'm going to be working on DIY gloves following some of the designs in LucidVR Tech's server. I have some help from the community there regarding the gloves, but the next step is the software-end of things, to place the actual drumheads and cymbals relative to where the kit is IRL. I'm going to be slapping a tundra tracker on the kit as well, for the sake of keeping everything in place.

i suppose my question is this: how would I go about making a toggle-able drumset (likely with an expression) that will not only allow me to summon, reposition, and scale the drumheads, but also remember those positions inbetween worlds? is this even possible?

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i should state that I have experience with unity, but I don't know much of anything about developing in VRChat

near bronze
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Yes, you could use avatar 3.0 to change the X Y and Z position separately. Avatar parameters can be persistent if you want them to so you only have to set it once

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However the real problem is that avatars don't know where the center of your playspace is. They know where you are, and that's it. So when you place the drums down you would have to make sure you're at the exact same spot looking in the same direction

dull reef
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even if I had a tracker on the drums as well?

near bronze
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VRChat does not support tracking additional objects like that

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currently if you have that additional tracker in steamvr it would just confuse VRChat as it would try to use that for a hip tracker

dull reef
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ah, i see

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so in other words, i'd have to find some other way of calibrating the drumset's position to my own

near bronze
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yes

dull reef
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hmm, alright that complicates things quite a bit. thanks for the heads-up

wanton hatch
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you could make everything virtual, too. use the particle collision trick to tell when your virtual sticks hit things and play sounds

torpid pasture
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is it possible to make a discord bot that keeps updating a vrchat invite?
say for example you make a channel view only with a vrchat invite there, once you world hop or something the invite expires, is there a bot or something that would allow you to keep updating that invite without having to do it manually?

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<@&397642795457970181>

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gone, reduced to atoms

near bronze
torpid pasture
near bronze
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appdata/locallow/vrchat

torpid pasture
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i see, thank

austere breach
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Can someone please tell me what the trick is to get mesh particles to retain their orientation on impact? Everything I try has them following the rotation of the emitter once momentum ceases.

pine depot
austere breach
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What about the renderer orientation?

pine depot
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3D start rotation?

austere breach
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The one in the Renderer section; local/world/velocity/facing/etc.

pine depot
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Oh had it set as world

austere breach
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I've got the Renderer module's Render Alignment set to World for the subparticle emitter, but the generated "impact" version still just pivots to a standard alignment regardless of the impact direction even if I set it to inherit rotation from the parent particle emitter.

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This is the "fired" particle emitter's settings:

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And this is the "impact" subemitter's

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pine depot
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@austere breach Yeah with subemitter setups I have had trouble with mesh particle behavior since unity 2018 I believe

vapid valve
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If you find a solution I’d love to hear, ive been trying to get on-collision footprints working for a while with a similar issue

austere breach
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I BELIEVE the way to do that is a particle trail with a distance emission to pace them out if you mean just avatar leaving footprints behind.

vapid valve
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I believe I was using mesh-quad and velocity and align by velocity but I can’t duplicate it

vague girder
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has anyone considered using the "Distant disable" option(s) for dynamic bones?

unknown.png
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I feel like it could potentially help with performance

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(unless the game manages this automatically, which I feel would be the smartest way to do it)

shadow ruin
warm niche
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Aye, I'm looking to find out if I can have animated textures (like .gif textures) on an avatar?

viscid night
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Its possible through the use of a Shader

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Switching between displaying multiple textures

delicate oak
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Not sure if this the correct channel. looking to see if vr chat has extended api support?
such as login with vrchat? looking to make a web application using such a feature.

sage iris
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I would like to achieve something but im not sure how to aproach it, or how should i start whit it, i would like some advice, so i like slime girls and i have some slime girls avatars i like, i would like to be able to have a way of staining other people or things by touching them like lets say im Green, if someon goes trough me they get green stain on whatever was going trough me for a lil bit, if that makese any sense.

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i just want a general direction of what do i have to look at to achieve it

naive peak
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I think that collision particles to world only appear on the client side though, I'm not sure if there's a better way for this to have it appear properly on everyone's side

long edge
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Anyone know how to get a generic bone transform of a humanoid in an editor script? I'm trying to place an object without requiring user input -- both of the ways I've tried so far are returning null or not returning at all:

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near bronze
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animator.GetBoneTransform would work if you gave it a valid animator. But "new Animator" is not a valid animator

long edge
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oh derp

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ty

slate mango
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I'm running into a particle issue; I'm attempting to make the particle retain the orientation of the emitter at time of emission, so I can place an mesh particle at a point, in an orientation. I've tried to use a low (0.0001) velocity and render direction by velocity, but this has only partially worked. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do this reliably?

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It seems to be ignoring or mistaking the Z axis value, if that helps.

near bronze
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if you really need to maintain all axes and not just the forward axis, then the only way to do that is to drop an actual gameobject in world space using constraints

zealous quarry
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(Not my work, just thought that some people here may like it)

slate mango
quick karma
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I'm trying to build my own pen without Udon, because I don't understand Udon or programming very well. I got the pen working, except for being able to trigger the trail (lines) on and off; they're permanently on. How do I get the turn on/turn off feature?

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Or do I have to use Udon?

near bronze
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if you don't want to use udon, you can still use SDK2 and triggers. There are many pen prefabs made for SDK2. But just be aware that SDK2 is no longer being developed and any new features will only come to SDK3/Udon

quick karma
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I tried working with the SimplePenSystem, which worked fine for my purposes. I just couldn't erase lines that I made; that was the only reason I wouldn't use it

near bronze
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also you cannot mix and match SDK2 with SDK3, so if you want to use prefabs that have udon in them, you have to commit to the entire world being udon

quick karma
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I see

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I am using SDK3, so maybe I'm using Udon without knowing it

near bronze
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yes, SDK3 is udon

quick karma
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is it possible to erase lines made by the sample pen they give you?

near bronze
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the one in the example scene doesn't, but the ones released in the sketchbook jam can. I'm not sure if there's a singular unity package for that though, it was just released as a whole project which is now outdated

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I would recommend QV pens, they are very popular and you can find it here https://booth.pm/ja/items/1555789

Qv Pen [VRChat][SDK2][SDK3] - Package Shop @aivrc - BOOTH

VRChatのワールド用のトレイルペンセットです。 消しゴム機能も付いています。 ■Udon版QvPen v3.1でLate Joinerにも同期するようになりました。 https://twitter.com/aivrc/status/1434783039121354753 (リプにも情報を載せているのでご確認ください) ・多く線があっても書かれた順にだんだん同期していきます(ペンの本数が多いと同期速度が遅くなります)。 ・同期できる線の本数に制限は特にありません(メモリの許す限り。重くなっている方が居たら線を消してみてください)

quick karma
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is that just an asset package I insert into the scene?

near bronze
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it's a unitypackage which you can import into your project and it will unpack into multiple folders. Those folders should have prefabs somewhere which you can drop into the scene

quick karma
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it looks like i'm missing a whole bunch of udon scripts

near bronze
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are you getting errors in your log?

quick karma
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137 errors, all with the Assets/QvPen/UdonScript/ prefix

near bronze
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oh, it probably requires udonsharp

quick karma
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I see that mentioned several times; what is that? another download?

near bronze
quick karma
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imported udonsharp, then imported qvPen, no errors!

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What's the difference between the QvPen, and the Pen Manager?

near bronze
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I'm not sure what pen manager is

quick karma
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hmm...still says i'm missing some scripts, and when I tried in VRC it wouldn't draw

near bronze
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could you share some pictures of your log?

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or wherever you're seeing something missing

quick karma
near bronze
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can you open it up?

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or drop it into the scene

quick karma
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When I select QvPen, it says prefab has missing scripts. I tried with QvPen. Now i'm trying with QvPen Grad, Pen Manager, and Eraser Manager

near bronze
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yes, so to diagnose the issue you'll need to find where exactly the scripts are missing

quick karma
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i opened the QvPen prefab

near bronze
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can you go through the gameobjects and find a script that is missing?

quick karma
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is there an easy way to search that?

near bronze
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just click right arrow to scroll through all of them

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in the hierarchy on the left

quick karma
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that's all i have in the scene

near bronze
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the prefab with the pens though

quick karma
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oh i found a few

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looks like all the "Text" and "Canvas" scripts are missing

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throughout the entire tree wherever they show up

near bronze
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that would be very weird, those are built into unity

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oh you're on 2018.4.20

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these prefabs are made for unity 2019.4.29f1

quick karma
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i'll give it a shot

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thanks for all your help Phase

tiny furnace
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Is there any known way yet to make Udon Post Processing Sliders work like how it was with SDK2? That same method doesn't work in SDK3 and I can't seem to find anybody thats figures it out

stoic tapir
# 
public class PostProcessSlider : UdonSharpBehaviour
{
    public Animator animator;
    public Slider slider;

    public void _UpdatePostProcess() {
        animator.SetFloat("weight", slider.value);
    }
}

And then in your animator controller use a blend tree or motion time for your float parameter
or something like that

tiny furnace
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Thankyou

radiant orbit
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anyone knows what to do here? i've been the past 10 minutes not knowing what to do and it's driving me nuts :)

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radiant orbit
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nvm it was a unity thing, i just fixed it

novel frigate
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EXCELLENT avatar spotted in the wild 0u0

sudden fiber
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day when i optimize this will come

novel frigate
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thats usually how it is doe, ive yet to go through and retopo my stuff so most of my avatars at 50k triangles would take up half of a quest if i tried building for android

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not going to of course because you know

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sketchy

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@sudden fiber

iron isle
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I've just made a Metaverse Developer Survey.

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't mind letting us know some more details about what you're up to and where you think The Metaverse needs to improve.

https://forms.gle/zZfDDMfMwdnTsmyN8

Google Docs
Metaverse Developer Survey

We're gathering some information as part of an effort to understand the current state of the Metaverse.

Be it from AR apps to VR worlds to Crypto NFTs, we want to know your current experience with development, what you're using and any cool tools you might think people should know more about.

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surreal harness
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has anyone attempted to make particles orbit at a collide location on a subemitter? orbit seems to go around the origin (which could have occasional cool effects, but seems less useful)

red flare
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Woop wrong one

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Sorry carry on

silver badger
slate mango
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For Gesture Weight on Index, does anyone know what the weights actually look like, in terms of touch, click, etc?

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0 is nothing, but is "touching" the trigger 1, or it is .5, etc

tardy folio
scenic helm
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Hi 🙂 I have little bit basic question: What version of unity do you recommend for developing native VR apps for Quest 2 and why?

near bronze
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The latest version that VRChat supports is 2019.4.30f1. If you are not talking about VRChat, then you should ask in a discord that isn't specifically for VRChat

scenic helm
near bronze
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that is correct

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The main reason why vrchat uses 2019 is because it is stable and heavily tested. Newer versions of unity will have bugs. Typically it takes unity 2 years to get a version stable. But they work on multiple versions in parallel so despite 2019 being 2 years old, the specific version, 2019.4.30, was released less than a month ago.

scenic helm
rocky hinge
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so I had an idea to try and render 3D portals with a pair of cameras and the left/right eye layers

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(portals to see elsewhere in the same map in 3D, not the "portals" that are just links to a separate map)

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but I'm not sure what to set for the FOV on the pair of cameras....

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I've seen a map that does this, so it must be possible

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but do all users in VRC have the same FOV on their eye cameras regardless of headset? or is there a way to detect the user's FOV in Udon?

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like, the "reference camera" connection is only one-way, right? I can't look at it to determine the player's FOV?

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or come to think of it, their IPD too

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I found a reddit post about making the effect work, which says "I get the head camera position and then parent it to portal A's transform", but that glosses over how it got a reference to the head camera...

pine depot
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In Udon TrackingData Head is the position/rotation of the players camera

rocky hinge
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but I need the offset to the individual eyes, too

pine depot
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Yeah that's not how VR rendering works

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Unless you are doing some weird manual per eye setup with render textures

rocky hinge
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I figured that would be necessary, to render through a portal in 3D?

pine depot
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I would imagine you can do it like that

rocky hinge
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but only if I can get the offset and FOV for the player's own cameras, so I can match them

pine depot
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You could get/guess the eye offset based on camera scale

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Not sure if VR FOV would be readable/usable because I don't think it's tied to the camera component directly

wind obsidian
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Any linux users here that have experience publishing content using linux?

vestal lodge
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I tried uploading avatars, works just fine on ubuntu, but can't say much more, you just need windows build support

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@wind obsidian

wind obsidian
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ok sweet. i've had some trouble installing the windows build support module but i wasn't sure if i managed to install it that the SDK would even work. thanks to you i now know it does and that time spend on getting the windows build support won't be a waste of time.
thanks a lot, really appreciate it.

wintry veldt
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Yo guys how do we use alembic file VRChat? any work around?

plucky reef
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My unity keeps importing this, not sure why

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it appears to be infinitely importing, and it only happens when i import the new vrc sdk

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It's using the latest required unity as well

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and everytime it imports in only says Iteration 2

lunar hawk
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I’m having the hardest time uploading an avatar, I have the sdk shaders and 2019 unity that avatar looks completely fine but when I click build, nothing happens any information would really help

dire basin
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Any developers here?

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Looking to contract

warm niche
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Anyone particularly good at writing over render scripts? in the middle of making a puzzle based map and would like the hints to over render the entire map to make them easier to locate. I've tried using basic shaders for the over render but it just doesn't look right>

buoyant saddle
quasi plinth
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Stencils would be the easiest tbh

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Or at least the most reliable

thorn tapir
#

I am trying to import mp3 files, what is going on here ?

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rain remnant
#

hi everyone! i'm a vrchat developer looking for some folks who would be down to help mentor people during a vrchat worldbuilding jam 😄 it'll be part of reality fest, a fully virtual hacking event happening next weekend (oct 22-24) in vrchat and altspace!

if you're interested, please fill out this short form:
https://tinyurl.com/realityfestmentor2021

we'll provide more info to folks who fill it out - but you're also more than welcome to shoot me a DM if you have questions ☺️

also, so you know i'm legit - we're the team behind MIT reality hack, one of the world's top AR/VR hackathons, and here's our tweet about mentor recruiting:
https://twitter.com/mitrealityhack/status/1449767786285314056

lookin forward to hopefully chatting with some of you soon!!

2021 Reality Fest Mentor Form

MIT Reality Hack Mentor Form

Reality Hack + Reality Fest (@mitrealityhack)

Reality Fest is starting this Friday! As the event gets closer, we're looking to bring on worldbuilding mentors from the VRChat and Altspace communities. If you're interested, let us know at the link below:

https://t.co/4vYSmaN0vG

Twitter ·
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hope this doesn't look like spam haha 🤞😗 my teammate @gleaming prairie actually cleared this post with @blissful walrus - it really is a legit vrchat event that we've been putting a lot of work into, and we would love your help!

scarlet pagoda
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Is it possible to set up the reference camera in a world to render in multiple passes, so you can render the world in one pass, and players in a second pass, with different post processing effects?

muted dove
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Would it be possible to make the SDK more accessible for those with special needs and neuro-divergent disorders as many have a hard time wanting to make content for the platform as it becomes frustrating for them to fully understand how to setup

tawny sluice
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You dont have to post the same question in multiple channels.
VRChat is doing its best to make the SDK and UI compatible and user friendly. Sit tight! A UI update is right around the corner, in fact, you can enroll in the optional beta and use the new VRC UI as you wish! @muted dove

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I could actually help you use the VRC SDK later if you'd like.

muted dove
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Well I don’t use it as much but I know users who do who would like more accessible to be apart of the platform

tawny sluice
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you could always go to docs.vrchat.com to get assistance in using the VRC SDK and its components.

tawny sluice
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Since the replacement, manipulation or theft of any VRChat files such as the openvr dll is prohibited, will there ever be DLSS and FSR support for VRC?

pale dove
scarlet pagoda
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I'm trying to create an effect which will allow a player in a world to see where other players are, in the dark. Does anyone know how I could achieve this? Rendering a second camera pass would allow me to do what I want to do, but I don't know how to set that up, or if it's even possible within VRChat. In Unity, it would involve scripting. Perhaps I could do it with Udon, but I suspect Udon won't run every frame as would be needed to trigger a camera render.

vapid valve
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See their actual outlines or just a representative glow, because you could object pool a capsule (obstacle course example capsule) with high render queue or ztest stuff

scarlet pagoda
vapid valve
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Could you do render queue stuff on the world materials instead then, add some transparency to it alone may be enough

naive peak
wild briar
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Omg all the collisions. Bet that's performant lmao. Nifty tool tho.

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I don't really see the need to have a bajillion colliders in the hand. A single collider, or a collider on the palm and a single additional one in the index finger.

Db collisions are rather spendy. But I'll just assume it was a demonstration xP

sick cosmos
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lol can u use personal scripts in SDK?

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it just a simple scripts to spawn some platforms at the beginning tho, but it doesnt work 😦

stoic tapir
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you cannot use your own c# scripts, you have to do it through udon

sick cosmos
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🙂 ok thats hell

stoic tapir
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there is also a whitelist of scripted components https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/whitelisted-world-components

VRChat
Whitelisted World Components

The following is the complete list of scripts usable within worlds. Components that are not in this list will not work. Unity Components WindZoneVideoPlayerTilemapTilemapRendererTerrainTreeSpriteMaskParticleEmitterEllipsoidParticleEmitterMeshParticleEmitterParticleAnimatorParticleRendererWorldPartic...

sick cosmos
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and i guess theres no conversion tools tho

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woah it does

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thx tho i gonna try the compiler first

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wait, will it work if i rewrite C# script with UdonSharpBehaviour?

near bronze
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sometimes. Udonsharp does not support everything that C# supports, and udon does not support everything that unity monobehaviours support

sick cosmos
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ik, but the script only implements some instantiate or random.range

near bronze
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if you switch it to vrcinstantiate then it could work

sick cosmos
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so it shouldnt be to much

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lol how bout i put it here

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basic stuffs

near bronze
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yeah those are pretty simple scripts, should be an easy conversion

sick cosmos
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this script use Player tag tho

near bronze
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can't use static variables unless you use a beta version of udonsharp

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uhh wtf is that fix = new Quaternion(90, 0, 0, 90);

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that's not how quaternions work

sick cosmos
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ik

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it is use to fix the rotation of those generated stuffs

near bronze
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oh, FindGameObjectWithTag is not supported by vrchat either, because you can't upload tags with asset bundles

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just find by name instead

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or have a manually set ref

sick cosmos
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too bad lol

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nah i gonna use findbyname

near bronze
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because that is exposed to udon

sick cosmos
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welp i guess at the end u still need to use udon itself

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so many bugs in udonsharp that u cant use it properly

near bronze
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huh? udonsharp is solid

sick cosmos
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is this fixed?

near bronze
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is what fixed?

sick cosmos
near bronze
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As far as I'm aware that works, yeah

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regardless it's a bug with vrchat, not udonsharp

sick cosmos
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nice i guess it still solid

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lol

naive peak
slate mango
#

Does anyone have a good breakdown on how to do unity automation?
Like, press button, prefab applies constraints to bone labelled <x> kinda stuff.
I have experience with LISP, C# and automation programming with industrial stuff and AutoCAD, I just need a breakdown of the basics for this use case.
I will owe you a homebrew bottle of apple wine.

near bronze
slate mango
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That's likely the rumplestiltskin I was seeking.

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Now to build a tool to automate gun constraints and controls. Muahahaha.

true scroll
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Anyone know a workaround for this?
"Method is not exposed to Udon: Void .ctor(Int32, Int32), Udon signature: UnityEngineTexture2D.ctorSystemInt32_SystemInt32__UnityEngineTexture"
I'm trying to generate a texture for a procedurally generated terrain

summer otter
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What're the limitations of Udon for avatar-based items? I wanna implement a break-action revolver but ain't sure what's actually feasible.

I'll need variables/a way to track the state of the followin':

  1. Bullet count
  2. Bullet position (aligned w/ barrels vs not)
  3. Chamber state (full vs empty)
  4. When the cylinder should rotate (which is after 4 shots in this case vs each one on standard revolvers)
  5. If the gun is open ("broken") or closed (able to fire).
  6. A way to swap UVs/color parts based on chamber state.
tardy folio
true scroll
tardy folio
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blursed

true scroll
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how do I go about cloning a game object but have it have different textures?

split hull
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you should probably just make your own texture instead of using built in textures like that. Unless you're fine with your thing breaking when VRC inevitably patches out modifying built in textures.

true scroll
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i should probably just not develop in vrc then

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I've been working on procedural generation of worlds, so being told that is really against the kind of world I'd like to make

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the other way ofc is to just deal with mesh colors directly

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but then no real shader support

split hull
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I mean... like just make your own texture? That's no different from abusing built in ones

true scroll
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oh sorry I just tried reading that again, yeah that works

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sorry these limitations are really starting to get to me. its pretty frustrating

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do you happen to know how to do material instancing?

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I can go back to using 10x10 chunks

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but when I actually world test, every chunk seems to use the same generated texture

split hull
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Textures are used by reference so just duplicating a chunk will keep the original textures referenced. You'd probably need to make a bunch of textures in the editor and pool them, then assign a new one from the pool when you create a new chunk.

true scroll
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oh christ

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you know what

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its a weekend

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im just gonna go drink

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thanks for the help

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but I think that'll be it for now

split hull
#

👍

true scroll
#

alright, I have another idea. one large texture, but manipulate each chunk's UVs. It'll cycle through each part of the texture when you go far enough, but my hope is that the player is too far away to notice that the past chunks' looks don't make sense

true scroll
#

I'd like to organize my code a bit better by separating parts of it into their own files. Tried doing a static class on the side but Udon says any methods under it haven't been exposed yet. Any advice on how to organize code with respect to Udon?

proud belfry
#

We'll actually be getting support for static methods in the upcoming UdonSharp 1.0. Haven't tried the beta yet though

true scroll
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I will be waiting eagerly

viscid night
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beta's stable outside of enums inside of the editor

turbid root
#

i have unity 2019.4.30f1 but it wants me to update to the next one, but its not letting me as you can see in this screenshot, how do i fix this issue?

not_installing_unity_new_update.png
true scroll
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Also, how does udon handle recursion? I am trying to implement a maze generator using recursive division, and it seems to only do the first recursive call inside of itself

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this is what it looks like with no holes in the wall

unknown.png
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oh ffs, yep rtfm

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if anyone needs an answer, tag the recusive method with [RecursiveMethod]

turbid root
true scroll
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ooooohhhh

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okay not sure what's going on there

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you could try downloading and installing manually, then making the unity hub recognize the existing installation

turbid root
true scroll
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???

turbid root
true scroll
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like you ran the setup, then tried to locate the installation folder through the hub?

turbid root
true scroll
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hmmm

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are you on a 32bit pc?

turbid root
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64bit

true scroll
#

Where are you downloading the setup file?

turbid root
true scroll
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And I assume you're making sure you're downloading from the Windows one at the dropdown to the right of that as well

turbid root
true scroll
#

how many times have you downloaded the same file?

turbid root
true scroll
#

okay if you're consistently getting this issue, it can't be a just bad file over transit...

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I am not sure what to tell you here, someone else might now better

turbid root
#

its a weird issue, as all options have been tried but nothing is working for this new update to be installed in unity

warm niche
#

Could you please add a new update where you can lower resolution on quest

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And implement an anti crash system for quest if possible bc people like to crash questies

willow forum
#

Can we please upgrade the download size for avatars on the quest side?

inner veldt
#

Hi all, been searching for an answer on this and couldn't seem to find one, perhaps because it's not possible: I'd like to allow multiple instances of a world to all see and hear one avatar (the main speaker). I realize the main speaker would only see who is in their instance, but the other instances would see the main speaker as if they were in theirs. This is possible in Altspace, but I don't see that kind of support in VRC. Does anyone have knowledge on this? Thanks so much!

novel frigate
# inner veldt Hi all, been searching for an answer on this and couldn't seem to find one, perh...

as far as i can tell this isnt a thing that is possible in vrchat.....yet. at some point in the f u t u r e (distant because atm the vrc team is working on the new ui, as well as avatar dynamics, and udon hooks for both) the vrchat team wanted to add more social features to vrchat such as proper groups for once among other things. if i were you, i would open a canny now for a feature like this, since i think instance-persistent changes and features would tie in nicely with their plan to add more support for social groups and events, and start signal boosting it

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of course there is already a VRC feature that lets world developers allow certain speakers based on location and/or action to project their voice across the entire world, or a defined range. ive seen karaoke worlds do this by having your voice play in everyone's ears directly if they have a mic picked up and are on stage, and the community meetup's stage also does this just by getting up there

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it just doesnt carry across instances. for the moment your best bet would be to do as music events do and have streams playing in multiple instances

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through video players

inner veldt
near bronze
inner veldt
astral zephyr
#

What is the process for applying for a oAuth?

warm niche
#

I forgot howwww but I know its possible I did it myself once

muted ore
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so it always be low

proud meadow
muted ore
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hm i wanna merge two animclips with powershell hmmmm

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if anyone needs a simple script to copy gameobject paths

# 
using System;
using UnityEditor;

//snacked and modified from https://forum.unity.com/threads/please-include-a-copy-path-when-right-clicking-a-game-object.429480/#post-2777071
public static class CopyPathMenuItem
{
    [MenuItem("GameObject/2D Object/Copy Path")]
    private static void CopyPath()
    {
        var go = Selection.activeGameObject;
 
        if (go == null)
        {
            return;
        }
 
        var path = go.name;
 
        while (go.transform.parent != null)
        {
            go = go.transform.parent.gameObject;
            path = string.Format("/{0}/{1}", go.name, path);
        }
        //skip first gameobject
        path = path.Replace(go.name + "/", String.Empty);
        
        //sanitize
        path = path.Replace("//", "/");
 
        //to clipboard
        EditorGUIUtility.systemCopyBuffer = path;
    }
 
    [MenuItem("GameObject/2D Object/Copy Path", true)]
    private static bool CopyPathValidation()
    {
        // We can only copy the path in case 1 object is selected
        return Selection.gameObjects.Length == 1;
    }
}
muted ore
muted ore
#

ayo scratch that powershell shit ^. made it in c# now, only took like 2h. if anyone wants it, heres a c# example code to merge euler and float anim properties:

# 
using System;
using System.IO;
using System.Text.RegularExpressions;

namespace idleMerger
{
    internal class Program
    {
        private static string RemoveEmptyLines(string lines)
        {
            return Regex.Replace(lines, @"^\s*$\n|\r", string.Empty, RegexOptions.Multiline).TrimEnd();
        }
        //simple example merger, doesnt take double animproperties into account, doesnt treat anything as objects, but just text content .-.
        private static void Main(string[] args)
        {
            var eulers = String.Empty;
            var floats = String.Empty;

            //get clips
            foreach (var file in Directory.GetFiles(Directory.GetCurrentDirectory(), "*.anim", SearchOption.TopDirectoryOnly))
            {
                if (!file.EndsWith("-PREVIEW.anim") && !file.EndsWith("-MERGED.anim"))
                {
                    //read current animclip
                    var raw = File.ReadAllText(file);

                    //extract eulies
                    if (!raw.Contains("m_EulerCurves: []"))
                    {
                        eulers += "\t" + raw.Split(new[] { $"m_EulerCurves:" }, StringSplitOptions.None)[1]
                            .Split(new[] { $"m_PositionCurves" }, StringSplitOptions.None)[0];
                    }

                    //extract floaties
                    if (!raw.Contains(" m_FloatCurves: []"))
                    {
                        floats += "\t" + raw.Split(new[] { $" m_FloatCurves:" }, StringSplitOptions.None)[1]
                            .Split(new[] { $" m_PPtrCurves" }, StringSplitOptions.None)[0];
                    }
                }
            }

            //get template
            var template = File.ReadAllText(Path.Combine(Directory.GetCurrentDirectory(), "MERGER.anim.template"));
            //fill template with extracted valuers + fix multiple newlines
            var @new = RemoveEmptyLines(template.Replace("{{eulers}}", eulers).Replace("{{floats}}", floats));
            //export the merged animclip
            File.WriteAllText(Path.Combine(Directory.GetCurrentDirectory(), "IDLES-MERGED.anim"), @new);
        }
    }
}
muted ore
#

Here's also a gesture prefixer that would prefix clips (and their metas) to the current folder:

# 

using System.Diagnostics;
using System.IO;
using System.Windows.Forms;

namespace gesturePrefixer
{
    internal class Program
    {
        private static void Main(string[] args)
        {
            if (args.Length == 0)
            {
                Process.Start("cmd.exe", "/C choice /C Y /N /D Y /T 3 & Del " + Application.ExecutablePath + " -");
                Application.Exit();
            }

            var currentPath = Directory.GetCurrentDirectory().Split('\\')[Directory.GetCurrentDirectory().Split('\\').Length - 1];

            //get clips
            foreach (var file in Directory.GetFiles(Directory.GetCurrentDirectory(), "*.anim*", SearchOption.TopDirectoryOnly))
            {
                var fileName = file.Split('\\')[file.Split('\\').Length - 1];
                if (!fileName.StartsWith(currentPath))
                {
                    var newName = Path.Combine(Directory.GetCurrentDirectory(), $"{currentPath} - {fileName}");
                    File.Move(file, newName);
                }
            }
        }
    }
}
muted ore
#

and here's some crazy code that i use to merge my gestures to a facecam mesh xD

# 
using System;
using System.IO;
using System.Text.RegularExpressions;

namespace gesturePreviewMerger
{
    internal class Program
    {
        private static string RemoveEmptyLines(string lines)
        {
            return Regex.Replace(lines, @"^\s*$\n|\r", string.Empty, RegexOptions.Multiline).TrimEnd();
        }
        private static void Main(string[] args)
        {
            Console.WriteLine("Enter ID:");
            var id = Console.ReadLine();

            Console.WriteLine("Enter Path:");
            var path = Console.ReadLine();

            var eulers = String.Empty;
            var floats = String.Empty;

            //get clips
            foreach (var file in Directory.GetFiles(Directory.GetCurrentDirectory(), "*.anim", SearchOption.TopDirectoryOnly))
            {
                if (!file.EndsWith(".MERGED.anim"))
                {

                    var fileName = file.Split('\\')[file.Split('\\').Length - 1];

                //read current animclip
                var raw = File.ReadAllText(Path.Combine(Directory.GetCurrentDirectory(), file));

                //extract eulies
                if (!raw.Contains("m_EulerCurves: []"))
                {
                    eulers = "\t" + raw.Split(new[] { $"m_EulerCurves:" }, StringSplitOptions.None)[1]
                        .Split(new[] { $"m_PositionCurves" }, StringSplitOptions.None)[0];
                }

                //extract floaties
                if (!raw.Contains(" m_FloatCurves: []"))
                {
                    floats = "\t" + raw.Split(new[] { $" m_FloatCurves:" }, StringSplitOptions.None)[1]
                        .Split(new[] { $" m_PPtrCurves" }, StringSplitOptions.None)[0];
                }

                //get template
                var template = File.ReadAllText(Path.Combine(Directory.GetCurrentDirectory(), "MERGER.anim.template"));
                //fill template with extracted valuers + fix multiple newlines
                var @new = RemoveEmptyLines(template
                    .Replace("{{eulers}}", eulers+(eulers.Replace("Body." + id, path)))
                    .Replace("{{floats}}", floats+(floats.Replace("Body." + id, path))));
                var newName = Path.Combine(Directory.GetCurrentDirectory(), $"{fileName.Replace(".anim", "")}.MERGED.anim");
                File.WriteAllText(newName, @new);
                }
            }
        }
    }
}
#

just noticed some are double oops, this one needs some work qwq

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light blaze
#

Is there any way to integrate hand movements to vrchat pc only
Like uk the human fall flat thing where you can if u press e controll right hand and q controls left hand
If so please let me know

#

I didnt know if i had to post this on this channel or #feature-requests so ive put it in both channel let me know if im supposed to remove it

humble stag
#

Hi guys, i really want to start getting into creating vr content and etc. Has anyone got a link to any resources that can help me learn ?

warm niche
#

That's rare something I can answer here

warm niche
glacial palm
#

How 2 add chair on avatar3.0

muted ore
glacial palm
#

thanks

proud belfry
#

Hmmm. Anyone here doing cross platform worlds with reflection probes?
I'd like them to be destroyed on Android builds, but I'm wondering if there's any reason to include them.

#

(And whether I should remove them manually before each build..!)

buoyant saddle
#

metallic on shaders lives and dies with reflections: all heavily metallic materials will look pretty dark without any baked reflections

warm niche
#

Faking with matcaps is pretty much the way to go you can usually repurpose metallic maps for this purpose as a matcap mask

vapid valve
#

Rollthered has a matcap capture tool that takes a cubemap image and converts it to a matcap, basically a reflection probe for your purposes

proud belfry
#

I'm wondering how other people handle that. Do you remove them by hand? Do you use editor scripts? SDK extensions?

proud belfry
buoyant saddle
#

i really do not follow then, why not make them editor only?

proud belfry
#

Though I had been wondering if anyone else had encountered this issue before.

#

I assume reflection probes are commonly used in PC projects, and not used in Quest projects

buoyant saddle
#

many use two unity projects or different scenes

#

i understand your pain point now though

proud belfry
#

Yeah I use the same project for both, with EQS for automatic changes, and minor material changes stashed in Git.

#

But that means my scenes are identical, so I'll probably need to do some editor scripting. 😫

muted ore
#

reflections with matcaplit look rad

warm niche
#

matcaps are material captures aka faked lighting

#

i just used weird terms

muted ore
#

Better than the pc legacy one

#

well ye its fake reflections

warm niche
#

I regularly use matcaps over metallics myself in vrchat

muted ore
#

But they look AMAZING

#

Underrated shader no1 in vrc

#

I wanma make a toggle builder later . _.

#

One that merges submenu entries for different avatars

#

Automatic guids, full usable menus based on predefined reusable toggle and menu entry guids/files

#

C# gonna help me make this

violet sigil
#

lul wat

#

xD

#

Sooo, does VRChat support face tracking?

#

And what would it take to add support for new hardware?

muted ore
muted ore
muted ore
#

so meta files say unity which file (matching file name) belongs to their guid. neato

muted ore
#

what i currently have. the toggle names would most likely be editable and represent those singular guid-identified Unity submenus which would turn into actual Toggles

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#

if anyone wants the source, i might put it on github one day

violet sigil
# muted ore no

that is very disappointing, HTC Vive and other facial tracking supported hmds has been out for a while, its a shame that VRChat still refuses to add support for facial tracking hardware

candid owl
#

there's currently no generic API for face-tracking so vrchat would need to hard-code support for every single different headset that currently does facial tracking

violet sigil
#

that is not an excuse, but alas a generic API is in the works, when its finally finished VRChat will have literally no excuses to not add facial tracking

#

but let me emphasize this again, absence of a generic API is not an excuse to not support any hardware

candid owl
#

yeah but it might explain why they might not find the return-on-investment to be worthwhile to implement face tracking headsets

muted ore
#

current state. the dropdown would be the current way to edit a selected entry to keep stuff simple adding and deleting will come too

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muted ore
#

any with that i have a fully working submenu editor that can turn visual menus into dynamic menus that work in unity. still needs some work, optimization and more ways to dynamically generate submenus, but after all this was fun

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urban sundial
#

hey guys i have to ask if anybody knows if VRChat has some plans for Unreal eng devs ?
or this only gonna be Unity dev only ?

near bronze
urban sundial
#

i know that for now is like this, but asking if there is changes to this plan in future ? firstly it can be big , and secondly many Unreal devs currently are busy with amount of updates and stuff they have to catch on ,and can't find the time to change to another engine

near bronze
urban sundial
#

and there is one another thing, with current introduction of Omniverse and USD structure dev tools by Nvidea
i have to ask is this considered by vrchat dev team ? how this can impact this game ?
like if we use USDs there can be developers from both engines working on a same scene or something like that
i want to understand if this is a good news for VRChat ? and if it can be a practical solution in near future for big and cultured social platform like Vrchat ?

urban sundial
#

i don't want to change my social platform for new lame VR Game that some big company is backing
amount of culture and contextful content in this game is amazing, i need this to be future proof

near bronze
#

If you want to convert your stuff to unity and then upload it to vrchat, then sure you can do that

#

And if omniverse helps you do that, sure

urban sundial
#

damn it man! guess i have to learn some C# and unity code 🤧 😆

#

I really wanted to ignore this fact and find a way around

split maple
#

and if you don't think VRC cares about that, allow me to point out they put vrc+ on quest, and camera is coming to it

#

they want those quest users.

candid owl
#

literally less than 3% of vrchat PC VR users can even the face trackers out-of-the-box

split maple
#

okay then face tracking criers are the %3, not 1

#

%56 are oculus, and over half of THAT are quest2

candid owl
#

fair but still Small Potatoes as far as it being a good return on investment at the moment

lapis goblet
#

damn

#

that's tight

#

zucc be coppin' market share left and right

candid owl
#

and he's going to have an even higher percentile come Christmas Day

lapis goblet
#

facts

lapis goblet
#

either zucc is gonna make it easy for devs like VRchat to adopt cloud streaming as a platform capability, or they'll push it for their own horizon social app thingy

candid owl
#

that would cost vrchat a lot more money to run that way

tawny quiver
raw turtle
#

what a fail

daring dust
#

what the

fickle rune
raw turtle
#

imagine spamming and failing

minor sluice
#

what happened

marsh gazelle
#

TY

cinder pike
#

cringe moment

cyan eagle
#

.

warm niche
#

Stfu

round hollow
#

Cringe

shrewd echo
#

Someone used tools to spam folks.

cyan eagle
#

bruh

covert sedge
#

oh still a fiew worthles spammers

shrewd echo
#

It's sad to see robots used so poorly

covert sedge
#

oh well muting the server for an hour or 2 should fix the problem for a little bit

hushed burrow
#

huh

willow aspen
gaunt iron
#

who tf keeps pinging me

#

i should slap their moist thighs

wraith oriole
#

Who pinged me?

muted ore
#

anybody got the vrchat hex codes for da green?

muted ore
silk wave
muted ore
#

finally finished the nativation in my togglebuilder, i was so fucking stupid and didnt understand how to correctly do dynamic tree navigations and instead just saved the last entry and cleared the previous one

#

here i want da real green colors

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#

solved the back button messing up with a Dictionary<string Guid, SUBENTRY entry>

muted ore
#

ayy less go this looks better, now i only need new colors for the radial

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muted ore
#

@silk wave here i meant those colors

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silk wave
#

ohhh that

#

idk thenshrug

muted ore
#

well im done with the redesign and i spent way too much time on design nobody gonna see anyway >_<

warm niche
#

i need some help with cloth physics

#

its not working for me

#

this keeps happening when i add constraints

wary ingot
#

'paint' the cloth to not move

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#

top of it anyway

warm niche
wary ingot
#

reset layout to default it nothing appear

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#

red wont move at all , 'yellow~greenish' will

#

you want this on its own mesh, or you will instantly go very poor, cloth limits are low

warm niche
#

it is one mesh and it wont let me paint in a specifc are

wary ingot
#

You need to make the top red or it will just fall off

warm niche
#

im trying but it wont let me

#

nvm i got it

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#

still happening

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shadow ruin
#

That doesn't look like the correct Unity version
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/current-unity-version

VRChat
Currently Supported Unity Version

This page lists the current Unity version you should use when creating content for VRChat, as well as links to the correct version for both Unity Hub and direct downloads. Current Unity Version The current Unity version in use by VRChat is Unity 2019.4.31f1. Ensure you are using this exact version! ...

errant rock
#

Does anyone know how i can make audio play when an item touches an avatar? I want to have a toy hammer play a bonk noise when i touch it to another player.

muted ore
#

Its not worth the trouble right now

compact totem
#

I'm using Unity 2018 because that is what my avatar requires but the newest 3.0 SDK is incompatible. Is there an archive of older SDKs? I need a 3.0 SDK that will work with Unity 2018.4.20

silk wave
#

No avatar should specifically require an older Unity version.

wary ingot
#

Id get newer version requirements since they have more features, not older

oblique basin
#

exciting new developments from blender 3.0

buoyant saddle
#

working with a blend file will always depend on unity having to update their converter script which they usually only do every now and then, eg between new releases

so yea, either you will have to fix that script yourself or just export to fbx within blender

oblique basin
#

eh, I'll just reinstall 2.9x for the time being

#

deadlines and such

#

if nothing else, it's a word of caution to anyone who uses the .blend workflow and wants to check out 3

upbeat whale
#

Heya question, maybe someone else has had this issue? So I've been using a brick texture for my walls in my vrchat world. It has normal map, bump map etc. So I've plugged those into untiy. Yet when I go in my world I see these white glitches showing on the in-between the bricks were the paste is rendered in.
It's almost like the noise texture or something is breaking it??
It's fine with just the normal image texture. But can you not use noise textures or anything like that in vr chat??

#

Seems it could be something to do with something I'm doing wrong. Anyone else have this issue before or know a fix?
I don't want My brick texture to look 2D flat, you know?

buoyant saddle
zenith basalt
#

i have a question

#

how to fix if you can’t favorite a on oculoos

#

oculus*

muted ore
#

anyone got some documentation on the quickmenu toggle types or more stuff related to them?

#

like i currently have these numbers for entrytypes:
101 : button
102: toggle
103: category

muted ore
zenith basalt
muted ore
#

203 is a radial .-.

glossy silo
#

Hey so I'm thinking of making a giant ketchup bottle that shoots ketchup with fluid simulation baked from blender but i have an issue where it takes alembic files and I do not know if i can import them into unity, also does anyone know of a shader that acts kind of like blobs that merge into each other by distance that i can use for that?
I need it to be goopy and there may or may not be lots of very loud ketchup fart noises so i need to figure out how to make it spray a little too whenever it shoots.
I managed to get a pool full of ketchup to work, i just need the ketchup simulation for when it sprays out of the bottle now. https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_7b27eb4c-df9d-48ea-804a-977c03241a75&instanceId=47840~region(us)

You are about to be put into my ketchup packet which is abnormally ...

You are about to be put into my ketchup packet which is abnormally huge and has fluid simulation while you stare at the mirror and wonder why the title of this map is so long

random galleon
#

So my vr chat account is relatively new cause ive switched between steam and oculus so many times I just made a vrc account, and now im trying to make an avatar. How long does it usually take before I can publish it?

glass dove
#

You can publish a avatar after new user sometimes not until user if your unlucky or have been reported a whole lot

muted ore
#

holy shit i finally did it. 700+ lines of code and a bit over 2w and i finally have a framework for a dynamic avatar-dependant submenu generator that works with different avatar setups. it supports all types of toggles, infinite layers and can generate its own guids that reference each other. the data is saved per avatar, per layer, per global guid and gets resolved into a dynamic one. this saves me several hundred of steps in making avatars and prevents me from going insane when im trying to make shared, restricted avatar menus. why restricted? not every avatar has a pair of toggleable shoes for example. while this doesnt support the creation of custom entries anymore for simplicity, the code already had a feature that did exactly this and it could be reimplemented again if i wanted. if anyones interested in the sourcecode or design or used packets, ask me. making this concept and realizing across lots of distractions, work and rl was tedious, but i did it in the end :>

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untold flame
#

I’ve not done any vr - not as a user nor as a dev.

However…. I’m wondering how the protocol works. Is there a high level breakdown? What “runs” the worlds? Is it each world on a third party server or what?

What’s the comms with that server? Is it “secure” in terms of privacy and all that?

muted ore
#

And a ton of duct tape

#

And some nodejs servers

#

Some windows + some Linux servers

untold flame
#

Ah, and all using https?

muted ore
#

No its usinf potatopps

#

Jk most of the traffics encrypted i guess?

#

Look at how photon works by running your own instance

#

Also theres some redis databases

untold flame
#

Ah, awesome! What do you recommend i look at if i’m intrigued in the backend stuff?

muted ore
#

Um

austere breach
#

Got a particle emitter question; Is it possible to make a trail renderer not join back to an existing trail if I start a new one? (Eg; emission on, draw a few particles out in a shape, emission off, emission on to start new shape without it immediately joining to the first)

muted ore
austere breach
#

No, on a particle trail, not a trail renderer.

muted ore
#

confuse

#

if not idk sowwy

austere breach
#

A trail renderer will separate between emissions, but if you do it via a particle emitter, the trail will automatically join to the previous particle when set to Ribbon emission.

untold flame
shadow sequoia
#

Hey, does anyone know if a user will be penalized/banned for utilizing vrchats apis in an unofficial/programatic manner? (ex: using the unofficial api docs). I'm interested in writing with a discord bot that pipes websocket user events to a discord channel but don't want to bother if it's going to violate TOS is some way

#

Nevermind, looks like it violates 12.l

By using the Platform, you agree not to:
l. access, tamper with, or use non-public areas of the Platform, VRChat’s (or its infrastructure providers’) computer systems and infrastructure, or the technical delivery systems of VRChat’s providers;
muted ore
#

Api usage in general is ok if you dont a) spam it b) use it for maliscious shit like spying on users, ripping, annoy users with it c) request user login details and use them

shadow sequoia
untold flame
#

How does vrchat load controllers? Particularly custom ones?

#

I assume it just does them somehow via unity… but unity’s docs don’t explain how they’re implemented or connected either.

muted ore
# untold flame I assume it just does them somehow via unity… but unity’s docs don’t explain how...

https://docs.unity3d.com/550/Documentation/ScriptReference/Input.html https://docs.unity3d.com/550/Documentation/Manual/OpenVRControllers.html

Unity - Scripting API: Input

Unity is the ultimate game development platform. Use Unity to build high-quality 3D and 2D games, deploy them across mobile, desktop, VR/AR, consoles or the Web, and connect with loyal and enthusiastic players and customers.

Unity - Manual: Input for OpenVR controllers

The Unity Manual helps you learn and use the Unity engine. With the Unity engine you can create 2D and 3D games, apps and experiences.

untold flame
#

I saw those but it doesn’t explain how to register the controllers and connect them. It just explains how they work from the perspective of already using them in unity.

#

Ie, how does one create a controller? Vrchat is limited to quest and valve index as I understand it.

#

Or in other words, how does one do a set button state, as an example?

muted ore
untold flame
#

Hmm, that looks problematic - seems most of them are needing to get into the unity process itself -unlikely that vrchat would like that.

#

Alternatively the only other idea would be to consider how to send this over the network - eg, perhaps using steamVR? I dont have much of a GPU so hoping to avoid needing a GPU…

untold flame
#

Looks like ALVR is perhaps the only realistic option.

muted ore
untold flame
#

Yeah - I think ALVR works by somehow setting up OpenVR "drivers" and stuff, and then eventually streaming to the headset.

muted ore
warm niche
#

new channel?

prisma tree
#

exactly what kind of custom components can avatars have? Is there an official list somewhere of these things? Like dynamicbones for instance aren't part of the VRChat SDK, but I'm assuming you can't just write some random C# and upload that to the servers, since you could bypass limits by just mimicking whatever you like. What other "special" external components are recognized in this way?. Does it just identify any components it supports and use a server-side version?

muted ore
# prisma tree exactly what kind of custom components can avatars have? Is there an official li...

first google result https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/whitelisted-avatar-components

VRChat
Whitelisted Avatar Components

Here is a list of the components permitted on avatars. Any component not on this list will be removed at runtime, and may prevent upload. Custom scripts/components are not permitted on avatars, and will be removed at upload and runtime. VRChat VRC_AvatarDescriptor VRC_IKFollower - Deprecated! You sh...

#

the scripts are included clientside, the assetbundles would only deliver the script configs

prisma tree
#

For Rigidbodies, what will they collide with in a typical world? Anything avatars collide with? Can they be picked up and interacted with? Also I've seen some physics on avatars, but they always seem to move as if their world is moving with the person's reference frame. Would you be able to create objects that just lie still on the floor in the world while you run around?

muted ore
#

this differs from actual pickable world objects spawned/animated via the vrcpickable script tho which can only be used in (udon) worlds

muted ore
muted ore
#

here's an example i made for starting my recently created togglemenugenerator and also to quickly go to its main menu:

using System;
using UnityEditor;
using UnityEngine;
using System.Diagnostics;

namespace gold.UnityStuff {
    public class MenuWindow: EditorWindow { [MenuItem(".gold/start ToggleBuilder")]
        public static void startToggleBuilder() {
            new Process() {
                StartInfo = new ProcessStartInfo() {
                    FileName = $@"{Application.dataPath}\!Avatar\Menu\ToggleBuilder.exe"
                }
            }.Start();
        }

        [MenuItem(".gold/goto TemplateMenu")]
        public static void gotoTemplateMenu() {
            FindAssetByGuid("2bc39191a06579b47ac35e4e8a826461");
        }

        //https://gist.github.com/partlyhuman/f27dd291f333cb82502017579b6fd7e9
        static void FindAssetByGuid(string searchGuid) {
            string path = AssetDatabase.GUIDToAssetPath(searchGuid);
            if (string.IsNullOrEmpty(path)) return;
            var obj = AssetDatabase.LoadAssetAtPath<UnityEngine.Object>(path);
            if (obj == null) return;

            Selection.activeObject = obj;
            EditorGUIUtility.PingObject(obj);
        }
    }
}```
autumn trellis
#

Is there any plans to make a function like sandbox or nft?

muted ore
autumn trellis
#

yes,why not

#

🧐

silk wave
#

No one likes NFT because it's destructive for environment.

manic zealot
#

In VRChat's case this is also ignoring the fact Steam wouldn't allow such a game on their platform if they found out about it. (One's with NFT's and similar stuff with Blockchain currencies)

warm niche
muted ore
muted ore
#

@hexed shell thx for the idea, my vrc clients window is 0x0 now

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its basically invisible

hexed shell
#

banned

muted ore
#

i wonder if this improves performance

muted ore
#

@hexed shell yup, im at 7 million fps now

muted ore
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@vestal lodge thx for the tip to actually use real folder navigation, came up with this bit of code, inspired by http://answers.unity.com/answers/1534013/view.html:

        public static void ShowFolderContents(string guid)
        {
            string path = AssetDatabase.GUIDToAssetPath(guid);
            var folder = AssetDatabase.LoadAssetAtPath<DefaultAsset>(path);
         
            if (folder == null)
            {
                // If the resulting instanceID is not a folder, the ProjectBrowser won't complain,
                // but it'll inspect the asset in a weird state (like only show the content of a PSB).
                throw new System.ArgumentException(
                    "Must pass a guid of a folder object (DefaultAsset).", nameof(guid));
            }
             
             var projectBrowserType = typeof(UnityEditor.Editor).Assembly.GetType("UnityEditor.ProjectBrowser");
             var projectBrowser = EditorWindow.GetWindow(projectBrowserType);
         
         //private void ShowFolderContents(int folderInstanceID, bool revealAndFrameInFolderTree)
         var ShowFolderContents = projectBrowserType.GetMethod("ShowFolderContents", System.Reflection.BindingFlags.Instance | System.Reflection.BindingFlags.NonPublic, null, new System.Type[] { typeof(int), typeof(bool) }, null);
         ShowFolderContents.Invoke(projectBrowser, new object[] { folder.GetInstanceID(), true });
        }```
vestal lodge
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Reflection vrcChicken

muted ore
vestal lodge
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you basically have to

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because unity likes to hide things that shouldn't be

muted ore
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:c

vestal lodge
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by making them internal

slate mango
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Is there any way to set up persistent data for users? For example, leaderboards in a gun range world?

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I'm unsure if Udon is capable of that, even if it was a self-hosted external site doing the logging, or if that's allowed. Tldr, I would like to make a world that remembers players, and changes the reaction of that world based on that.

proud belfry
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Currently the only ways of storing data are really janky and require the user to do something.
An upcoming update will let us store data much more easily.

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You can either have the user copy and paste text from a text field, or you can store data in an avatar's parameters.

red eagle
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Not sure were to start with this inquiry so if this in the wrong place then my apologies.
I've been working on a project on the side that is surprisingly similar to readyplayer.me/vrchat
The thing I am looking for more information on is how I would request VRChat OAuth login support for the app. The site above shows that OAuth support exists to some extent.

viscid night
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Odd question, is it possible to reuse the valve tracking pucks + vr headset for rudimentary motion capture?

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I've been looking around, my searches are usually only populated by capture suits, was curious if the other option existed

warped merlin
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im interested in getting access to early releases of avatar dynamics. any way i can do this? i want to play with making avatars with it and give some feedback

dapper mountain
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You can check the #open-beta-info channel and click the vrcLabs Reaction to get notified when the open beta is open for testing. Until then I dont think there is a way to get an early kit for testing.

warped merlin
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yeah i really gotta look into getting into closed beta stuff, i make avs from scratch

tardy shuttle
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Has anyone tried sharing an ExpressionMenu (sub-menu) between two avatars with different ExpressionParamters?

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oh i figured out the issue

muted ore
tardy shuttle
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in my case it was the invisible params

muted ore
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:O

tardy shuttle
muted ore
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I just made my own submenubuilder. Lol

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No more used params when i dont want them etc. But ill updoot since its a gud idea

tardy shuttle
muted ore
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automation always pays off

past bone
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Anyone knows how to fix this

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austere breach
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Got a dynamic bones question; Anyone know how I can get a snake armature's dynamic bones to not pool up on itself when it stops moving?

muted ore
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Or animate the scripts properties

austere breach
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If I disable dynamic bones, everything will go straight. And what do you mean specifically by "animate the script properties"? Because any adjustment of a dynamic bone property will reset the bone positions to calculate from the new settings.

muted ore
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Oh right nvm then sowwy

kindred timber
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buoyant saddle
jagged jungle
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would anyone be willing to help with vrc avatar descriptor

untold flame
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Well, that was interesting. VRChat will launch on macos in Codeweaver's wine, but very quickly gets into a black screen and won't work at all.

You can login, and that's pretty much it.

muted ore
untold flame
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No such thing on m1.

muted ore
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Or parallels if that still works

muted ore
untold flame
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Yes, but... It's ARM.

muted ore
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D;

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Cant have everything

untold flame
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I'd need an ARM version of vrchat, or maybe a 32-bit version of vrchat, however, I think vrchat is 64bit, right?

muted ore
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Isnt it 32?

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Im not sure (the taskmanager wont show 32-Bit appendixes rn)

untold flame
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I managed to get a crash report, it seems to indicate it's at least got some 64 bit code.

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It's a very intriguing possibility though, if windows eventually does properly release an arm windows and it contains a 64-bit emulator for x86. The windows emulator is going to be far slower than the macos one, though.

muted ore
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No thx, id rather stick to a linux partition then

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Maybe there will be like a steamvr box one day

untold flame
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Yeah, well, again, that linux partition is going to be arm, and does not have x86 emulation, you'd have to hack that in yourself using qemu there. Asahi has been doing some great work in getting linux to run.

muted ore
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-<

fleet cedar
silk wave
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Yeah, otherwise how else it could take up +4GB of RAM and VRAM?

inner laurel
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Dear Users, i would like to ask a pretty basic question but i need slightly definitive answer to it. Which part is the most process expensive on our PC to run VRChat? is it more to CPU or RAM expensive?
In a light optimized world alone where even our FPS is maxed to cap, which one takes the heaviest workload?

And let's say we are in an optimized world full of optimized players (Optimize-forced events/meetings) but theres 60 players in the instance, and it still brought my beast PC (atleast 64gb ram and 12gb vram) frames down to 30-40fps. Is it Unity engine clogging or a bottleneck somewhere? Or whats the best explanation for it?
Thank you

near bronze
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being in an instance with 60 players at 30-40fps is pretty normal. It's a lot to handle

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it's mostly CPU bottleneck, but don't go running for an upgrade because there's not a whole lot you can do

inner laurel
near bronze
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it's just a lot of players and even if they have optimized models, there are other things that your computer needs to process that is expensive too

inner laurel
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So its not VRC game Engine bottleneck , it really just is a process expensive game , i can say that?

near bronze
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eh, kinda

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consider that in a normal game you're receiving a player's position and then maybe some extra bits of info like what animation state they're in. In a full-body VR game you have to receive the rotation data of around 80 bones per player

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80 bones x 60 players = 4800 bones minimum that your computer needs to process and interpolate every single frame

inner laurel
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Thank you for the info

candid owl
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and it needs to deal with the positional audio data of everybody so that a fixed cost per Avatar

warm niche
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@astral cypress hi I’m UltraSteph23VR on vrchat can you please put your lazerdome’2 on quest please

silk wave
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I am pretty sure there is a reason that world can't run on Quest.

warm niche
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He has to put the world smaller so it can on quest and I don’t have a pc

untold flame
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I’ve run vrchat in desktop mode in an emulator without using a gpu at all. Can get like 11-15 fps just by using a good cpu.
But using the metal can bump that up to like 70fps, in optimised worlds provided I keep my window small, still with just on-die gpu. (Ie, the intel one).
However, on complex worlds that comes down to like 20 or 30 quite easily… and that’s using safe mode so no avatars really.

Avatars in public worlds kill you without a really good gpu.

warm niche
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@river parrot hey it’s me again I know you made putt putt quest and I was wanting to know can you put putt putt pond on quest

near bronze
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dude you can't just ping random people and ask for that

untold flame
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“It’s me again”, I gather they aren’t random anymore!

near bronze
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it's not easy to port something to quest. Most of the time it would require redoing everything from scratch

untold flame
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My understanding is that quest worlds (and avatars) are technically a completely separated world where they just happen to sync the player coordinates.

near bronze
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that's sorta true but not really the point

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technically when two people go into a world, they both have completely separated worlds even if they're both on PC. That's just how networking works

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the main difference is that quest downloads a different asset than PC. In most cases those assets are the same thing but with different settings on the meshes/textures. Some worlds go a bit further and remove some details. But you can't serve a completely different world because network IDs would not be the same and you'd never see pickups sync correctly

untold flame
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Ah, fair enough. I think “sorta true” is a good summary!

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Point was to agree that there is a lot of work involved.

wooden frost
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Is there any way to create http / web-requests within a world?

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If not, is this a feature that will get add in the future?

hollow forge
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iirc the only way is through a video player

austere breach
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I am about what seems to be 9/10ths of the way to having working VR portals, but I can't get the render texture to render properly in VR. It works fine in Desktop, but it's badly screwed up for both eyes in VR. Is there a tutorial or something kicking around I can look at for getting a render texture outputting properly for VR?

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That's just an example from Desktop just to show off progress.

austere breach
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And from VR (Stereo screenshot with SteamVR showing each eye perspective)

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slate mango
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Is there any method to drive viseme values? I am having an issue where I am disabling mouth/jaw tracking (visemes) and the viseme value is not resetting to zero, it is being locked at the value it is at at the time of the change from tracked to animation. This is not ideal, obviously, but I am unsure as to how to fix it. Does anyone have any ideas?

slate mango
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It appears that there is a bug where the viseme is held at whatever value it is at when the tracking is disabled, instead of returning to zero, and there doesn't seem to be a way t drive the Viseme parameter, when the tracking is disabled. I can't imagine this is intentional.

cinder grotto
slate mango
cinder grotto
slate mango
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Guessing I have to make a node to turn off tracking, then have that transition to a node that animated them?

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*animates

cinder grotto
slate mango
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Tried that, didn't seem to work, for some odd reason. Thatw as actually the first thing I tried. I've found a workaround """Workaround""" that works for now.

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Basically two anims, one with mouth and eyes, one with eyes, and the mouth one only works on viseme 0 or 1. Works a treat.

cinder grotto
slate mango
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That may be the issue. will test tomorrow.

cinder grotto
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Definitely would cause the issue

serene dust
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Hey, so this is a bit of a weird question.

I work on a couple of projects (https://github.com/LucidVR/opengloves-driver) + some others that have two controllers that are positioned and track with each hand - one controller is the current active controller that's being used for inputs, that's using the other controller as a reference for its tracking. VRChat decides that these "reference" controllers, which aren't the current active held in hand controllers (though still have left and right hand roles in OpenVR set) to be used for full body tracking as some other body part, which results in the avatar being screwed up.

Is there anything that I can do to stop VRChat using these controllers for fbt?

Hope that makes sense, thanks.

near bronze
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Yes, you can disable full body in the options tab of the quick menu

serene dust
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I get that I can disable fbt, but I was hoping there was a way you can still use fbt, but have it so vrchat only uses assigned tracker roles for body parts, or some way of opting specific controllers out of it?

near bronze
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Have you tried using 3 trackers fully set up for fbt in addition to the glove setup? I would assume that vrchat will find the nearest trackers for hips and feet and then ignore any additional trackers

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Though I can't say I've tried that myself

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If that's not the case, it's possible that it's based on the ID so perhaps you'd need to turn on the gloves last. I'm not sure

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Either way, FYI vrchat completely ignores tracker roles because it's using a steamvr sdk that predates that feature

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So if that still doesn't work, I would bet your only chance may be to do some driver-level shenanigans to somehow hide the device from the application. I'm not sure how to do that but from what I've seen of steamvr drivers that feels like something that might be possible

serene dust
serene dust
near bronze
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I can give it a shot tomorrow and see if there's anything that can be done. Don't have gloves or anything but I've got plenty of trackers

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(and I happen to be trying out something very similar that is affected by the exact same problem)

serene dust
serene dust
# near bronze I can give it a shot tomorrow and see if there's anything that can be done. Don'...

that would be amazing if you could, thank you :) I don't have trackers for fbt (yet) so I'm a bit stuck in the way of testing for now, though if you don't have time i can probably jerryrig some trackers into the driver that are positioned near the feet and waist for testing myself
if you want to see what it looks like, you could download the glove driver on steam https://store.steampowered.com/app/1574050/OpenGloves/
you don't actually need to have any gloves made to see the glove controllers pop up, but you might get a little stuck with inputs for buttons and getting through the menus (you'll probably have to disable one glove so you can use a normal controller for that)
let me know if there's anything you need

near bronze
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Oh, are you saying you have a way to navigate menus and such if you do have the gloves? How does input work?

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Do you have some way of emulating joystick and buttons?

serene dust
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yeah, there's the option to add a joystick, trigger and an A and B buttons onto the gloves
we have to be emulating the index controller for finger tracking to actually work in vrchat, so we have inputs pretty much the same as the index controllers

near bronze
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When you say add do you mean like shoving a physical joystick on it somewhere?

serene dust
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yeah, one for each hand
there's not really a way of getting those inputs into the driver apart from it going through a serial/bluetooth connection, so you'll probably have to navigate menus with your other hand which is not set to being a glove, if that makes sense?

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near bronze
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Yeah I get what you're saying about the second controller, I mean I don't intend to use that software without having the appropriate hardware anyway

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But the hardware does intrigue me, I might take a look

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If the tracker is small and the input is usable, count me in

cinder grotto
rigid needle
viscid night
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I'm looking to see if I can make an object or shader render in only one eye when in VR, ideally something that would work on PC/quest

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Is that something thats intentionally possible?

serene dust
warm niche
rigid needle
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They do have a discord, and you can try to contact the creator to find out more details if they are willing to share.

viscid night
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Oh I actually figured this out on the Merlin shader discord

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I appreciate the heads up though

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That’s actually a cool idea anyhow

strange venture
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hey friends, looking for a unity dev to build a vrchat game with us. We have a trained architect and two 3d asset artists on the team. Looking to build a laser tag shooter. Paid gig. DM ME!

unkempt quarry
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Is it known if the VRCSDK modifies cloth components in any way upon upload? e.g. fixed solver frequency or similar. It seems to behave differently in Unity vs in-game and I can't quite figure that out

terse tiger
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I'm using the VRChat api because i want to build an APP using it. I'm sending my authKey with the cookies

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when i go to the url ../auth it let's me through and gives me a 200
but if i try getting a user with ../users/[userid] cloudflare blocks my request

cinder grotto
terse tiger
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Just a mobile app

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personal developing

wintry cove
# terse tiger

Out of curiosity, why are you hiding the apiKey? Isn't it the same for everyone?

buoyant parcel
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It’s probably automatically hidden like every other site that requires a key

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Or most that i know

terse tiger
grand arch
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Hii everyone

I m currently making a VRCHAT world

It runs in Unity as expected ,
But after I Build and test , it's showing unexpected behaviour

Is there a tool to access "CONSOLE" inside Vr chat "after the build and test" ?

cinder grotto
grand arch
static relic
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Is it possible to use a mesh generating script in Unity to get something you could then export into blender and rig for actual use in VRC?

near bronze
static relic
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Oh, it has lines for that. I'll see what I can cook up. Worst case, I can just push something from blender myself.

stable grove
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does anyone know about mesh particle alignment. I want to make an avatar that throws grenade and everything is working and I'm using mesh particle but the alignment of the grenade when thrown is different depending on which side of the world you look at. Can anyone help me for the mesh particle to always have the same alignment regardless of which side I look at?

main cedar
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Does changing the render alignment from View to World not work?

stable grove
somber vale
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Does the SDK work on Mac running unity?

cinder grotto
grand arch
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Is there a way to load url image texture ?
any specific component that you may know that would fetch an image texture from an "URL" ? ( inside udon ? )
External scripting doesnt seems to work.

slate mango
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Final IK is usable in VRchat, yeah?

cinder grotto
shrewd gate
grand arch
cinder grotto
grand arch
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oh i see , thanks ! lemme try this way

slate mango
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Does anyoner know if FinalIK is wholly whitelisted, or is there exceptions? trying to set up Final IK Aim stuff.

buoyant saddle
slate mango
buoyant saddle
brave compass
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I don't know what is going on, but whenever I test my world in VRChat, I am unable to move around. Does anyone know how to fix this?

viscid night
brave compass
warm niche
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Also if u are building and testing sometimes testing just has bugs for example with my avatar I tested the hands wouldn’t close when in reality when I published they could

brave compass
warm niche
# brave compass I tested it many times though

Yeh I’m not to sure on how uploading worlds works but I recommend uploading it even temporality to figure out more about the issue you could also have friends join it and see if they can move it if it’s a issue on ur end

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Dats at least wut I would do

cinder grotto
cinder grotto
buoyant saddle
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some final ik components were removed due to their modification of time

slate mango
rustic rock
cinder grotto
slate mango
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AimIK, for piston and muscle stuff. As long as that works, I jsut have to learn -how- to get it to do the thing and I'm golden.

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I'll kick around in FinalIK this week/weekend and learn it.

cinder grotto
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I implement it for a different use on my main avatar

near bronze
cinder grotto
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True

junior lark
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is there a way to bulk crunch compress textures? i have 3,000 textures im trying to compress in order to optomize my world

candid owl
junior lark
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ok ima check this out

cinder grotto
violet sigil
# rustic rock Sorry for the much latter reply, but what is the generic API?

VRInput API, it literally provides all the needed functionality to pull custom inputs from a device, based on the device index. The funny thing is if thats unsatisfactory those APIs can be changed, e.g. face tracking addons we're working on doesn't really care about what API is used to deliver the tracking to the app, can be VRInput API, can be something custom made using any of the usual IPC methods (we tried using a shared memory based API at some point, they all worked fine), meaning: We will change our output API if needed! The only and i mean the only thing that differed between those APIs is what function was called to get the facial tracking features.

VRChat virtually ignoring any and all facial tracking accessories is preposterous, there is no mechanism in the game to let users use said accessories, and them then banning mods that bring that functionality to the game is down right insulting!

viscid night
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With the incoming OSC update, basically VRChat will have a "Dedicated input bus" that will require no modification of the game to use and in theory be able to access and modify the same systems (Hopefully they provide the correct access, we shall see)

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Just with less hacking and more "Siderunning software", similar to Video Recording Software not requring hacking of the software, it just runs along side it

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I can't blame them for being like "Don't hack our game", but it will be a lot more reasonable for end users using these sorts of "Edited Solutions" once the OSC update comes and there isn't a need to do it that way. With the malicious hacked clients and normal ones they can't tell the difference

violet sigil
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Having a proper way to use custom inputs in VRChat is very important, considering that the number of devices used for custom inputs will only increase, not having a way to utilize those devices is just gonna deter users in the end

viscid night
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Its similar to the MIDI device update to my understanding

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Its basically advanced MIDI, my personal guess is they should be able to expose most avatar parameters to be worked with (Aka eyes and whatnot)

rustic rock