ios-discussion

[sonic ridge]

Perhaps you could sideload the game? But eh, tedious process

[wise remnant]

as in like

[sonic ridge]

As in install the game with the Pc instead of the App Store and bypass the requirements lock entirely

But I doubt we have what we need to do it

[wise remnant]

yeah no i wouldnt be able to i dont have a laptop

[sonic ridge]

There’s nothing we can do my friend, I’m sorry

Try to not listen to the people who will say “get new fon”

Cuz ur phone itself is very capable lol

[wise remnant]

its alright i have a quest 2 anyway but its just slow and crashes alot so ill have to make do until this phone stops working

tbh it is quite old anyway

[sonic ridge]

Vrchat isn’t a traditionally intensive game, so even older devices should handle it fine on paper. The problem is when you join lobbies with the most unoptimized avatars known to man, I suppose

[wise remnant]

yea

[sonic ridge]

You reckon you could get yourself a pc at some point, or is it out of the question

[boreal bear]

Hello? I have a question! My ipad is less 6 ram

[dark badger]

honestly having selfie expression would make the iOS version more fun to use

thanks bot, that doesn’t explain anything relating to selfie expression tho lmao

[stray shore]

🔫

Apple store now has Nvidia GeForce Now.

[quick lodge]

Wait, is it only iOS now?

Forget it, I saw the announcement, it's available for Android too

[green sonnet]

Amazing! Still can't believe I can do this on my iPad with a keyboard and mouse while at work

[stray shore]

I sent this message with my iOS phone

[stark silo]

They blocked vrc gfn what the fuck

[stark silo]

I think there were some talks about utilizing FaceID to make it possible, but don't quote me on that

[stray shore]

Yes and I have this problem only with my iOS devices and not on other platforms, I think it's related to Safari.

[stark silo]

I was able to use gfn a couple months ago tho, weird

[stray shore]

I just learned today that the laws in France really don't want us to play these games on iOS. I don't know about Android.

My only way to play remains on the test fly version

Who will expire on January 1, 2026

[cloud vapor]

Remember in the past when there used to be 'App' and 'App Lite'? Why not released VRChat Lite with just the launcher and then make VRChat app locked to the 6gb devices?

[versed fiber]

Hey, quick question, ProTV ain’t working what do I do?

[copper dawn]

We need selfie expression on mobile

[green cairn]

why is the iOS version missing the option to suppress background noise for your mic unless it’s something to due with AirPods mic

[hoary thicket]

to be honest i cant get pro tv even work for me

cant evn get my world to upload in ios format

[green sonnet]

I've noticed a problem where using AirPods Pro will lose audio. The mics will work, but I lose voice audio for some reason. Even the world volume still works sometimes, just the voice audio is lost. I have wired headsets I use, but just reporting it

[sullen dome]

You get god rays and i get missing textures?? How 😭

I’m on iphone 14 pro max

Which does currently run 3x better than my quest 2 atm

[green sonnet]

Yeah my iPad crushes full VRC lobbies rn at 90-120fps too, amazing honestly

There are some worlds with missing textures that I've found now. There aren't many, and I assume it will get better with time. I just let it go, idc

[sullen dome]

I care

Because there are so many with missing textures

[green sonnet]

I haven't noticed very many. Rooftop has a few missing textures, the lights that hang from the trees on the roof are missing. In Murder 4, there's missing textures as well. I just ignored it though

[near crypt]

So, I keep seeing that VRChat is unavailable on the Apple App Store in France because of French Digital Laws… But I really cannot find more information about it. It’s not in FAQs, and nothing more is really said by staff. I don’t really understand why it would be blocked on Apple’s devices, but not on any other platforms. :/
I guess I should just be patient.

[stray shore]

Yes, even when trying to play well with Nvidia GeForce Now and then Safari, it was blocked (only for the iOS Safari version) not on other platforms. The law really doesn't want us to play this game on this platform in France.

[near crypt]

But what law :<
and why only Apple's ecosystem

[stray shore]

I don't think that comes from Apple because otherwise the game wouldn't be on the Apple Store.

[near crypt]

It was a bad time to get an Apple device for the first time just a few weeks ago lmao
I thought "sideloading" was possible thanks to the EU but it's wayyyy more limited than on Android too
oh well

[stray shore]

It is the only way for me to play on my phone I am lucky to have received the invitation almost 1 year ago

[sterile furnace]

Why is it glitching intiating world and joining world and then it like freezes

[near crypt]

Lucky! I hope it will officially come in France before it expires

[stray shore]

Yes, but it is very likely that we will end up having to do an update that is impossible to do in order to continue playing.

[elder merlin]

Given the several iOS apps for face, head, cam, and even FBT tracking for IOS to desktop, are there any cam tracking apps that are currently compatible with just having the app open while playing iOS? Or is that an eventual feature? Otherwise if iOS has a preprogrammed webcam available for iOS VRC, how would y’all setup selfie expression to be available from the jump and/or via VRC+?

[green sonnet]

I just realized this, but if you play on an iPad with an external monitor, normally there's 2 black bars on the sides unless your monitor has the same aspect ratio as the app. BUT if you launch VRChat on your main iPad display, it will launch VRChat on your monitor in real full screen

[versed fiber]

Doesn’t Roblox and Geometry Dash for Apple Silicon Macs take some code from their iOS/iPadOS counterparts?

I think they could use the iPad app, and use Catalyst for a macOS port, at least for Apple Silicon.

[steel glacier]

I have sent in this bug multiple times during the beta period, and it has not been fixed in the release. VRChat team, please fix custom written BiRP shaders for iOS rendering. This literally isn’t an issue on any other platform.

[timid ruin]

I don't know anything about those platforms. Blocking a iOS app on Mac is specifically a developer choice, in this case VRChat. Other devs can leave their iOS apps unblocked on Mac if they want to.

[delicate charm]

I am really happy it’s finally out

[bright gull]

Same

[haughty kettle]

This is mostly just with quest worlds.

I’ve already got it

[sour rampart]

Your should grab a canny link and post it here if you can. Others may upvote it.

[vale relic]

Quick question, where is the expression wheel on iOS?

[open elbow]

thanks for the PING STRASZ

[copper cave]

ah update

[spice thunder]

There’s tons of bugs in the VRC IOS version!

[silk warren]

It finally comes out and neither of my Apple devices have 6GB ram (iPhone 13 btw)

[brazen dragon]

The app does not exist on the French app store 😔

[copper cave]

please do always report to canny as usual, otherwise no one knows it.
(top on that, share link here would help)

[open elbow]

It's being made

There's 6634 bug reports to deal with..

[brazen dragon]

We don't have a release date at the moment?

[open elbow]

Sadly not, but keep a eye on #announcements

[copper cave]

more of your gov reviewing app I bet so....no clue myself too.

[open elbow]

Not sure if you can download vrchat and get used to english for now unstill French lang comes out.

[tulip parrot]

iOS sucks ass bro

Can’t even play it unless you have the newest iPhone

[pearl nymph]

Will players with devices under 6 RAM be able to play in the future?

[idle horizon]

thats what im wondering

[fluid shadow]

Wrong.
@brazen dragon
Due to the current state of French online policies, VRC is not available in France at launch. It might change in the future.
TL;DR: Legal issue

[sage birch]

Are we getting the selfie expression??

[torn peak]

catalyst requires unity 2023.3 or higher. unity 2022.3 crashes because it attempts to load the app as a universal binary and not as a catalyst binary. this is documented on unity’s forums

[teal gate]

I agree

[cloud vapor]

iphone 14 and iphone 12 pro are not new tho, we are now on iphone 17 series

[teal gate]

All I can do is favorite a world that I wanted to visit once I get to play or explore

[cloud vapor]

no

[halcyon summit]

Fr I hate it

[pearl nymph]

What is new these days?

Will the 6gb of ram be lowered? Because im on iphone 11 pro max

[cloud vapor]

Anything that runs apple intelligence xD

[pearl nymph]

Apple intelligence is at a 0

[cloud vapor]

Sadly no sorry

[pearl nymph]

Wahhhhh

[paper crypt]

I wish it worked for iPhone SE

[teal gate]

Same over here brother

[lofty briar]

Wish vrc could run iPhone 11

[teal gate]

Yep but we have to upgrade to the ones that are supported sadly ; (

[bright gull]

It fun

[dusty mantle]

Any good ios avis?

[indigo shard]

iOS avis is Android/Quest lol

It's the same, nothing different!

[delicate imp]

I got a question

[delicate imp]

Can’t they just lower the device compatibility to iPhone 11-17?

[dusky quartz]

How to use hand gestures in ios owo

[cloud vapor]

Again no

[delicate imp]

You never know :0

[cloud vapor]

Oh i know, vrchat used quest 2 as a base, they are actively capping the platform to 6gb ram

Vrchat likes ram lol

[delicate imp]

Still they should so people with older devices can play

I mean hey they did it for wandroids

[cloud vapor]

Wandroid?

[copper citrus]

I can’t even play on mobile bc I have an SE 3 at least I got the menu if I ever wanna see who’s online

[twin snow]

Fuck me i guess thank you devs i guess i don't have enough ram for this game but i can perfectly run roblox and its ram eating games wow

[stray shore]

The problem is that the game requires 6GB of RAM because of the avatars. The only way to run VR Chat on a platform with less than 6GB of RAM would be to prevent users from displaying avatars, because if 2 avatars are displayed, the game would crash.

Roblox doesn't require as much because the level of detail can be reduced on the maps and the characters in Roblox are optimized.

[twin snow]

Mhmmmm but yet i can play multiple other games that REQUIRE 6gb if ram just fine

[stray shore]

I don't know many games that require 6 GB of RAM except Grid Legends because of its high textures.

[stray shore]

The Meta Quest 1 headset had 4 GB of RAM and when displaying 2 avatars, the game would crash, so I thought it would be the same with a phone or even worse with a 3 GB of RAM

[true cargo]

the quest 1 has been entirely unsupported for several years now

[twin snow]

How much ram dose the 2have

[true cargo]

6

[stray shore]

Yes

[true cargo]

I do not wish for anyone to be stuck with quest 1 hardware trying to run this game cause that was awful

[stray shore]

Technically, the Nintendo Switch 2 could also run the games but Nintendo's restrictions could prevent the games from being released.

[true cargo]

well yes and no
you can just boot android on the switch

[stray shore]

Many people told me the same thing

[stray shore]

[true cargo]

its not great cause the hardware in general for it just sucks

[stray shore]

I find that the switch 2 has enough power to support the games since a phone also manages it

[cloud vapor]

as an ex quest 1 user, yes vrchat was horrible on the quest 1 xD

[stray shore]

Don't tell me they closed the game on test fly

[cloud vapor]

it's very simple: your phone/tablet doesn't have 6gb ram? no play, stop crying about it. you can still use the hub as a companion to your main vrchat experience (vr or pc)

[rough barn]

I mean there’s no reason to keep the beta up since the game has released now but I’m sorry for france 🙏 🫠

[stray shore]

😞 But the worst part is that it is stuck on Nvidia GeForce Now so I can no longer get around it.

[cloud vapor]

sadly this beta build will die 90 days after it was released

[teal gate]

I mean ur not wrong though

[fading knoll]

No worry we can still sideload it that the only ways 🙁

[supple igloo]

I mean most iPhone don't have 6gb so this is a little bull

[wind dew]

Fr iPhone users always get the worst end of the stick for everything

[supple igloo]

I just realized I have 6gb and it still not working

[wind dew]

Same

[cloud vapor]

Iphone 12 pro, 13 pro, 14 pro, 15 pro, 16 pro, 17 pro, 14, 15, 16, 17, air, 16e. Those are a lot

[teal gate]

Same

[cloud vapor]

The only iphones currently supporting that do not vrc mobile are: iphone 11 pro, 11, 12, 13, se 2, se 3. Not much left lol

[supple igloo]

Those are all the pros

[cloud vapor]

Read

All this complaning god

[supple igloo]

Maybe if it was fixed and let everyone play then maybe there wouldn't be complaining

[fluid shadow]

They already knew what they were doing when selecting people to the beta. And thats how they also got invalid reports due unsupported hardware. Hence said message was born.
Unsupported hardware = Lied on the application

[wanton ridge]

Yeah I have a 14 pro max. I don’t have iOS 17 and I don’t want to update my phone for various compatibility reasons.

Just wish the minimum was iOS 16.6

[wanton ridge]

I can run almost anything right now forever

Almost being some hitches or snags

[wanton ridge]

Only apps being flappy bird, cookie clicker, and vrchat

[inner path]

i fine it funny how it say it can run on iphone 11 when i have iphone 11 pro max a better phone but yet it can run on 11 pro max

fix the website

[teal gate]

Yep

[dusty mantle]

Yeah i realize last night i can use a quest avi and i didnt know that

[lament fiber]

How can i fix this hahaha,I can’t see myself

Oh wait im find it

[quasi quarry]

do you mean tur your mirror of grabbable?

[stray shore]

It's also frustrating when I want to see a photo

[balmy shell]

Ngl it’s smooth like butter

[bright gull]

Yea

[balmy shell]

If it gets support for post processing. I had a little doubt that it would be able to run it.

[bright gull]

True

[oblique steeple]

So i JUST downlaoded vr on my iphone and i tried joining a world for the first time n it keeps glitching and wont load is this anyone else or just me

[balmy shell]

The cou is so fucking strong Ngl

[bright gull]

It’s just you

[balmy shell]

Probably just you I don’t know this doesn’t happen to me though

[oblique steeple]

Aw shucks okay ill keep trying

[bright gull]

It doesn’t glitch for me

[copper cave]

I think people in this channel already knows where to get app by now.
Is it ok to turn off sticky message and pin message to channel instead?

[cloud vapor]

Sure!

[copper cave]

%unstick

clean

[orchid fulcrum]

Does this happen to anyone else on mobile, like I’ve tried fixing this with the shields and stuff and I can’t seem to find anything in graphics 😭

Ths lights keep getting weird and I can’t see shit

[stray shore]

Is the world compatible with iOS?

Generally, the lights are gray when the world is not iOS compatible.

[orchid fulcrum]

OHH- I didn’t know that thank you :)

[stray shore]

Generally, creators ignore the iOS platform so their evenings are catastrophic and not enjoyable on this platform.

[orchid fulcrum]

Ah that’s unfortunate given I don’t quite planning on buying a PC any time soon.

[stray shore]

I use Nvidia GeForce Now to work around it, but in cases where I can't use it, I don't go to parties if the world is not iOS compatible and the gray lights make the world unplayable.

I stopped complaining since the game's public release because the creators can now test it themselves and other people can complain in my place.

[orchid fulcrum]

That’s so valid 😭

[stray shore]

And about the French community when I complained to inform the creator what their world looks like on iOS because everyone could test it, I was often insulted.

Likewise with avatars when it was in robot error surely because the SDK of the avatars is too old.

[balmy shell]

Ngl this is so real

[stray shore]

😂 stop

[orchid fulcrum]

Dude the only good thing bout mobile is that crasher avatars just done work

Because they never fucking work/load

[potent spire]

Guys why am I getting this..

I have the ram for it

Its just not letting me play

[teal gate]

Is your device compatible or on the list if not then welcome to the club like the others like me

[potent spire]

I think iPad version I'm on is 18

[rigid surge]

Since Apple makes it so annoying to figure out what exact version of an apple product you are even using we can't do much to help you, you simply have to go digging to figure out what IPad you actually have.

But Apple is really stingy with the amount of RAM they give you, the Ipad 2025 only has just enough at 6GB of RAM for example, the 2022 and presumably all prior, 4GB.
If you have a Pro or Mini you might be fine if recent, if more than like 3 years though then probably not.

[idle horizon]

Question: Couldnt they add a setting to disable all avatars and then let people play as long as they had enough RAM for the world?

[cloud vapor]

Noooo

Give up, don't have 6gb ram? No play simple end of complaining

[magic condor]

Getting a whole bunch of “application error” when in Verizon cellular connection anymore else have this issue?

Hmm I completely deleted and removed the app from my iCloud account and redownloaded it after restarting my phone and it’s still not working not even on wifi anymore

[fluid shadow]

API issues. Read #server-status

[magic condor]

Thanks I completely forgot to check there mb

[torn peak]

i am hearing talks in world about there being an ios badge. a badge like spookality, bsb, vrc gifting, etc. anyone know anything about this or is it confusion with the platform label

[dusky bough]

I don't believe we have a badge for iOS BUT there is a label on y our nameplate that designates you as an iOS user if you're on iOS. Maybe you were hearing something about that?

[fluid shadow]

Exactly like this. iOS has tag, not badge. There is canny sbout giving selected few a badge for their help on beta, nothing more

[lofty briar]

Is vrc coming to console as the next beta

[true cargo]

no

just a hard no

not even going into the legal issues with trying to partner with consoles just to have it put on there
you require the sdk for said console which they dont just hand out to people to even make content for that platform

[lofty briar]

🙁

[stark silo]

It could mean the hero mobile badges?

[violet trellis]

Keeps lagging and keeps making me rejoin over and over again

[magic condor]

Option to create an instance from iOS home page randomly gone, it’s only their 50/50? I know it’s a very early app but just wondering if this is common or has been a known issue or if it’s a me problem

[small solstice]

Why is it pink when I look at tv on VRC? I’m playing on iOS

Can someone help me please

[rough barn]

Ios devs haven’t gotten TVs working well yet

Anything that’s pink means the world creator didn’t or couldn’t port that thing to ios

[prisma bronze]

Is anyone else in the same situation?
https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/building-avatars-for-ios-breaks-uploads-to-other-platforms

[fluid shadow]

Dupe. I reported that months ago
Original ticket: https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/critical-android-quest-worlds-gets-corrupted-if-uploading-ios-version-as-well

[long kraken]

Question: is it possible to play vrchat on an iPhone SE, because i don’t think it’s possible due to RAM.

Thanks.

[cloud vapor]

None of the 3 iPhone SE's can run VRChat

[long kraken]

Darn, well thanks for letting me know.

[tulip raptor]

It won’t load my friends avatars for me

[warped atlas]

So for some reason the action wheel just… doesn’t work

Like I can’t access any of my toggles

Or emotes

Disregard. Fixed with a restart

[green cairn]

Some reason the game audio starts becoming distorted and then will mute itself and come back, I’m not sure if this is because I’m using AirPods Pro or if it’s something with VRC itself

[fluid shadow]

known bug, reported view times

iirc it could be both?

dont quote on me that :d

[green cairn]

I could try connecting my old AirPods or my JBLs and see if it’s something with vrchat itself or just a AirPods Pro bug

[pliant thicket]

why do you need to have push to talk for ios :(

[fluid shadow]

Iirc it was something to do with Apple stuff. I could be wrong. I have JBL and Apple headphones so I can try too

[lapis prism]

there should be a way to select what mic to use and be able to use your camera for face tracking! doesnt ios already come with it? (sorry im new to this. i just wanted to suggest future updates)

[rigid surge]

So you don't have echoing, it is the same with the android phone version, plug in any headphones and it will stop being push to talk, or at least that is how android works.

[green sonnet]

For some reason Airpods Pro does the same thing for me. It will cut the audio randomly for a few seconds, then come back, then mute the audio again. It's only voice audio as well. I can hear the world volume most of the time

[fluid shadow]

Upvote the canny about it

[green sonnet]

Good call! Thank you

[trim galleon]

Is it just me or has all the avi world search engines just… not been working lately?- y’know, for mobile?

[rough barn]

Prismics isn’t working either?

[shadow junco]

Still working fine for me on Android and iOS mobile.

[silver notch]

yeah I can’t seem to play on iOS since I literally can’t.. I mean I have the app but it’s not letting me join any worlds??

[valid quartz]

#vrchat-general-1 message

^^

[trim galleon]

Not like it should, lesser avatars are occurring as of questies and pc users can see everything else. I dunno, it’s weird-

[haughty kettle]

Did video players get fixed?

[stray shore]

😄

[hollow lichen]

The ice type

Nice

Did someone hide evolution stones around worlds to find

[livid shuttle]

haha probably

[tardy wyvern]

Why the heck does it need so much SPACE!?
I tried playing on my ipad but i needed 6MG and discovered that even if i reset my entire ipad completely, i STILL wouldnt be able to play T_T

[true cargo]

its not storage thats the problem

its ram

[frosty saffron]

Is anyone else having severe crashing and instant app kicking I'm on android(no support chat for andriod) I've never has this issue before in the past 3 months is it the new update I assume?

[tardy wyvern]

The heck is ram/gen

[true cargo]

memory?

like what your system can use at any given movement

[tardy wyvern]

I cleared most of it though

[true cargo]

no

memory is not storage

[tardy wyvern]

Oh, hm

How do i clear memory then

[true cargo]

you dont

[fluid shadow]

You cant

[true cargo]

thats not how it works

memory is used for processing

not storing

[tardy wyvern]

Dang it

[true cargo]

its why its called random access memory

you cant just "clear it"

[fluid shadow]

Please read official requirements list at: https://help.vrchat.com/hc/en-us/articles/19616653355411-VRChat-Mobile-System-Requirements

[tardy wyvern]

Ohhh

[true cargo]

you dont even have enough to begin with

your device likely only has like 4

[fluid shadow]

Here is a list of specific devices that meet the requirements:

iPhone 14 or newer (all models)
iPhone 12/13 Pro and iPhone 12/13 Pro Max are supported, base and mini models are not
11-inch iPad Pro (2nd generation or higher)
12.9-inch iPad Pro (4th generation or higher)
iPad Air (5th generation or higher)
iPad Mini (7th generation or higher)```

[tardy wyvern]

How the hell do ppl play it then

Im a tenth gen i think

[fluid shadow]

If your device is not on that list, you cant

[true cargo]

use hardware that actually has 6?

like different hardware different specs

[tardy wyvern]

9th gen

[tardy wyvern]

Ah, okay

[fluid shadow]

@livid thunder sorry for ping but ^

[cloud vapor]

9th gen ipad?

The final home button ipad, rip. But yeah ipad 11 have 6gb ram.

[silver turret]

I have an iPhone 12 but it says I don’t have enough ram when I went to join a game💔

[cloud vapor]

Iphone 12 can't sadly, iphone 14 is the lowest

[rough barn]

Actually 13 pro is the lowest 😎

[cloud vapor]

Actually in a matter of fact iphone 12 pro is

[cloud vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-well-actually-as-a-matter-of-fact-gif-27665011

[tropic delta]

I might ramble on about this from time to time whenever I'm in this server. Lol.

But now VRChat is on iOS (which I'm gonna try while on iPhone mirroring), MacOS next?

[ancient palm]

hopefully so

[tropic delta]

Really do hope MacOS support comes back. Especially for Apple Silicon Macs.

Honestly tried playing VRChat multiple times on Crossover VM but due to EAC not launching still unable to play.

[ancient palm]

easy anti cheat might be the worst update implemented so far ngl

bricked multiple platform support and shot down multiple mods

[rough barn]

It was supposed to remove mod support. It was too easy for there to be bad actors.

[ancient palm]

that’s why we can’t have good things

[cloud vapor]

from what i understand, Unity 2022 doesn't support the new M series Macs. VRChat first need to move over to Unity 2023 or 6 to make it compatible.

but it said that the final LTS build of Unity 2022 LTS lost support this May 2025 interesting

[stray shore]

I managed to log in to my account 😃

[copper cave]

ah, ic

[visual burrow]

oh lord 😭

[trim galleon]

How do I keep my mic on with mobile instead of using push to talk? I couldn’t find it no matter how hard I checked. No tutorials, nothing.

Seriously, a lot needs to be fixed on iOS, literally every other device do not have this many problems-

[cloud vapor]

Android mobile also does this, use headphones to disable push to talk

[surreal lance]

https://tenor.com/view/long-tears-gif-11087877242190144149

[mellow quartz]

man...i just wanna play, but ofc the ram limit's there...

even a full on restart wont do anything lol

curse you iphone 14 being the lowest...

[sage birch]

So like. Is IOS getting selfie expression?

[worldly plume]

[fluid shadow]

Already have like two or three bugs to report xD

[indigo shard]

I think the latest iPhone doesn't have a headphone jack, not sure if it works on Bluetooth

[cloud vapor]

I misread as 'Bluetooth Jack' xD but yeah you can use a usb c to 3.5mm adapter for wired headphones or Bluetooth headphones

[feral ether]

Guys how do u join a instance on iOS

[low cliff]

I don’t think it’s released yet-

[near crypt]

it is

You just need a device with 6+ gb of RAM

Then simply select an instance or press the big play button at the bottom of the screen

[haughty kettle]

You always have the adapter or your wireless headphones as an option

[haughty kettle]

• video players don’t work at all
• certain textures and materials render incorrectly
• almost no content to speak of
• fake platform support in some worlds
• issues with semi-transparent texture in some worlds
• etc.
  -# also I’m pretty sure some people have said they’ll never create content for iOS and I’m pretty sure that includes a few big creators

[cloud vapor]

That's a bit petty of them to never make ios content

[haughty kettle]

You can’t really “clear” RAM but you can reduce usage by closing apps and not letting things run in background.

[tardy wyvern]

I got that

[haughty kettle]

True. Especially since the only actual iOS content seems to be Japanese karaoke worlds

[tardy wyvern]

Thx

[haughty kettle]

VRChat does have memory issues so it’s possible you’re unknowingly getting put on “compatibility mode” sometimes

[tardy wyvern]

Wait how, whats that mean

[haughty kettle]

Enabling game mode gives the game you’re running priority and allows it to use a bigger chunk of memory.

[haughty kettle]

You run low on memory, it turns stuff off to save memory.

Also, use game mode, it helps a lot.

[tardy wyvern]

How do i turn it on???

( i have a 9th gen ipad btw)

[haughty kettle]

Which OS are you on?

It should work on any HW

[tardy wyvern]

.

[haughty kettle]

It should turn on automatically, but to see if it’s enabled or not search “game mode” in your iPad settings

[tardy wyvern]

Alr

Uh..

[haughty kettle]

Okay

Now go to settings, general, about, iPad os version

Or if that doesn’t lead you to a screen like the one in the attached image.

Settings, general, software update.

Screenshot either one.

You need iOS/iPad 18 or newer

[haughty kettle]

Oh sorry searching for it didn’t give me any results on my iOS 26 device either. It just auto enables and you can check from action center

[haughty kettle]

That’ll support it

[tardy wyvern]

Alright

Well, i checked the updates thing, im updating my ipad rn

[haughty kettle]

I have it too and I’m on the latest iOS

[haughty kettle]

I’d recommend just getting the latest version of 18

[haughty kettle]

Nice

[tardy wyvern]

If ts works
Youre my lord and saviour after wards/silly/pos

[haughty kettle]

Game mode should enable automagically when you play a game

[tardy wyvern]

Checked, it does
But it never lets me be able to play

But, ima hope the update thing works

[haughty kettle]

Also check for updates for the app itself in the App Store

[haughty kettle]

Make sure the app is also up to date

[tardy wyvern]

I recently downloaded it so it should be

Just got back updating, it still doesn’t work 😭🙏

[haughty kettle]

Did you check the app store for updates for the app itself?

Open App Store, go to your profile image (tap it), pull to refresh, scroll down to the pending updates section, tap update all.

Also certain materials don’t seem to work properly on iOS

Here’s a world that claims it’s is compatible, however we can see that almost all the materials are broken.

[tardy wyvern]

The only thing that needs update rn is my twitter

[haughty kettle]

Hmm

Maybe your device is just too old

[tardy wyvern]

What world

[haughty kettle]

Uhh…

This one. But the issue exists on several supposedly iOS compatible worlds

[tardy wyvern]

I might need a link, its not showing up in the search

Nvm

[haughty kettle]

I can’t

[tardy wyvern]

Its alr i found but diesnt work

Ima js give up atp

[haughty kettle]

It’s annoying that some worlds claim to be iOS compatible but obviously aren’t

[tardy wyvern]

Yeah

[haughty kettle]

When it works it looks really good

But it doesn’t work most of the time

[tardy wyvern]

Damn

[cloud vapor]

lies, it's 26.1 xD

[haughty kettle]

Hm?

Did Apple put out an update since yesterday?

[cloud vapor]

2 days ago ^^, nothing to fancy, just a way to disable the swipe lockscreen camera, and alarms and timers now use swipe to turn off

[haughty kettle]

Oh

Interesting, I’m updating now

[haughty kettle]

Are some transparent/semi transparent materials still broken in VRChat?

[cloud vapor]

that's on vrchat/users making content in game sadly. it's hard to find a good homeworld since it need to work on all my platforms

i use the cloud loft world, i love it, but the theme slider makes everything pink, and when i revert some stuff stays pink

[haughty kettle]

This even happens on worlds that claim to be compatible with iOS.

It’s super annoying, does iOS support alpha tested texture?

[cloud vapor]

i'm not sure, i'll let others answer that if they have more information ^^

[haughty kettle]

Hmm

Okay

[trim galleon]

EXACTLY… we need more justice for iOS and I can’t stand no one doing anything about it. Makes me sad… like why add it in the first place if you ain’t gonna fix those problems as fast as you fix everything else… it’s almost obvious at this point they’re either too busy, too oblivious, or just don’t care at all 🙂‍↕️

[haughty kettle]

It did only come out fully a few days ago but there is still almost no content for it. And that really sucks

[trim galleon]

That’s my point. Like- if ur gonna add it, at least test it first

But oh well, right?-

lol

[haughty kettle]

Yeah

I’m wondering if they even had any beta testers

This is a joke btw

[haughty kettle]

Also it makes no sense to not allow custom shaders for mobile platforms now

[stray shore]

Most old worlds cannot be compatible with iOS because the SDK is too old. If they update the SDK, it could destroy the world's system.

Normally, the more complaints there are about a world, the more it encourages the creator to make the world iOS compatible.

I had a friend who had this problem.

[haughty kettle]

I’ve seen multiple “iOS compatible” worlds that do not render properly, lag, etc.

Then there’s ones that look almost as good as PC

[stray shore]

I have never seen this to check if the creator of the world had made a mistake, because most of the time, creators do not check the world in the iOS version.

For the video player on the beta, there was simply no sound.

Certain maps are not iOS compatible, so the video player does not work.

[haughty kettle]

I’ve checked multiple maps that claim to be iOS compatible and it’s broken on all of them

[haughty kettle]

It might be something that’s being done automatically?

[stray shore]

On my side, I don't have the app store version so it may have changed.

[haughty kettle]

I’m on the App Store version

And there’s a lot of apps that show up as compatible that when you join them everything is broken

[stray shore]

Not me

[stray shore]

Idk

[haughty kettle]

Do you have issues with rendering transparency?

[stray shore]

With the ios compatible world I have never seen

on the other hand if the world is not ios compatible the transparency is replaced by pink or gray

[haughty kettle]

I’ve seen that, or the “transparency” just being solid

[rigid relic]

Let me install it on my apple silicon maaaaaaaaaaccccc

[haughty kettle]

That’s overkill

[haughty kettle]

I’m having issues where things like windows or stuff with alpha transparency just renders the transparent geometry with a color instead

[stray shore]

Ha ...

[frail meadow]

I HATE this 6GB stuff;-;

[tired maple]

Is it just me or is it whenever I reload VR chat I hate that I have to turn on people’s avatars again over and over if I reload the app TwT

[grave swift]

I just got that too, I swear I have exactly 6GB

[frail meadow]

Same

[grave swift]

so annoying

[sturdy cargo]

That was setup for very poor avatars under safety settings for both Android and iOs.

[cloud vapor]

What's your device?

[grave swift]

iphone 11

[cloud vapor]

Base 11?

[grave swift]

yeah im pretty sure

[cloud vapor]

That's 4gb ram indeed, but also a 'old' phone for this kind of game

[grave swift]

ah

damn, Im surprised it can run the games it does

[cloud vapor]

Apple gonne drop the 11 series next june so it's retiring soon. If you upgrade in the future but are on a budget the base iphone 14 supports it.

[grave swift]

hmmm, yeah I was thinking of trying to upgrade to the 15 or 16 soon

[cloud vapor]

Nice!

[haughty kettle]

It’s doesn’t even happen on every world

I’m hoping iOS gets more advanced shaders for avatars

Worlds that work correctly look amazing

If they’re actually compatible

[worldly stirrup]

On iOS why do I need to subscribe to VR plus to verify age?

[rough barn]

It’s the same for every platform, and it’s because VRC has to pay persona to get your ID verified so having VRC+ just guarantees you or someone has covered the cost of your verification

[worldly stirrup]

Can I subscribe, verify my age, and unsubscribe?
I don’t really wanna pay for that

or does it unverify me

[rough barn]

Yep, you don’t need keep it

[worldly stirrup]

phew

[rough barn]

It’s just needed for the initial verification process

[worldly stirrup]

I didn’t think there was a verification thing requiring payment

[rough barn]

Yeah persona is the same verifier used by linkedin and roblox, meaning they must pay for your verification

VRC just doesn’t make or have enough to pay for all their players to verify, or something

[worldly stirrup]

It how do I unsubscribe?

Also my pc doesn’t have a camera how do I verify it

[cloud vapor]

Your phone or tablet

[autumn mortar]

Hm it’s funny they have money to pay for a iOS port but no money for a Mac port I mean to get a game on an Apple product it litterly cost the same

[cloud vapor]

again, the mac needs a newer version of unity, vrchat doesn't run on that engine yet

[worldly stirrup]

It’s a steam account

[rough barn]

You gotta merge it with a real account before you can verify at all

Go to the website and make an account then log into your steam account, go to the big settings window, and there’s a merge accounts button in the top-left

[stark silo]

you don't unsub from vrc+, it works like discord where it only charges you for the amount you pay iirc

non-renewal subscription essentially

ok i was wrong that discord was non-renewing but point still stands with vrc+

[stark silo]

unity issues

[rancid nexus]

I want VRchat for low-end phones.

[gray gust]

true, no fun allowed i guess

"To protect you" :tf:

[rigid relic]

Ah yeah the iMazing method

[gray gust]

Nah PlayCover

[rigid relic]

so even if the ipa file is signed with our own account it would still not let us boot it, nice. We were THIS close to have a playable version in some degree of vrchat on MacOS

would have been the first step to see it on Apple Vision Pro

[sonic ridge]

The thing I find entertaining is that there is no such hard limit on Android or the PC build. This is specifically an artificial iOS build limitation

[frail meadow]

Exactly

[sonic ridge]

Furthermore, the only thing there really is to worry about on Mobile is throttling, which unfortunately all users are more or less affected by, but phones are extremely capable still for this game. I ran this thing on a 2013 low end Asus Vivobook that gets slammed by even a 2017 iPhone X, and the game experience was OK

iPhone 11 runs rounds around this game, and though with 4GB of RAM it definitely cant load the heavier worlds, it can load some, and perform great in them

[rough barn]

I’m not sure why they don’t handle it the same way they do with lower spec’d android, but they did mention that 6gb is what the quest, which has a mobile processor, has

[sonic ridge]

Indeed, but the Quest is built with another objective in mind, and that is to be able to load all the worlds possible and provide an experience that offers few compromises. I should also add that Quest 2 has less capable hardware than an iPhone 11, way less.

I should also mention that the original Quest had 4GB of RAM, and VRchat originally supported it

Updates to the game may have slightly increased base RAM requirements, but the main driver remains worlds and avatars

Artificial limiting mobile games’ operation or settings on mobile devices is something I’ve never understood. Users are ultimately responsible for what they do and don’t do with the device they own. I am fully aware the mobile userbase tends to be way louder and more technically inexperienced compared to PC users, but that doesn’t make the VRChat (or any other mobile game) devs liable for any damage the players may somehow do to their device while playing.

[cloud vapor]

Capping vrc to 6gb is a good thing guys

[cloud vapor]

Android also is capped at 6gb, while pc is not good luck running pc vrchat on a windows pc under 6gb xD just accept it that 6gb ram is perfectly fine for 2025 vrchat

[sonic ridge]

I've ran VRChat below 6GB on PC already, and below 3GB on Android (Though the Android device was unable to load any worlds). Please refrain from being passive aggressive as I do not bear any ill will.

[cloud vapor]

Then stop whining, this is perfectly fair. End of conversation

[sonic ridge]

Last but not least, regardless of capability of running a game, hard locking people out of trying is morally unfair and a practice unheard of on PC.

[sonic ridge]

I am not whining, I am explaining something, and validating the complaints of many others

[cloud vapor]

Alrighty then

[cloud vapor]

Meanwhile windows 11 itself

[sonic ridge]

Yeah, that's a similar situation, though one could argue it's in the name of security. However it can be bypassed with uh, sufficient expertise

People aren't really locked out of trying there. Hell, I am typing from Windows 11 right now, running on a way outdated machine for its requirements

Windows 12 will likely render any workaround impossible I guess

The age of Linux is coming

[cloud vapor]

I'm so waiting for that to happen. Windows must fall

Anyway sorry for being passive aggressive

[sonic ridge]

It's all good. If anything you engaged in conversation fast. Many can't do that even

🤝 soon we will all be united by Linux

[placid cosmos]

that is awful, VRChat team!

[fluid shadow]

That is Unity issue, not team issue. Read up, that has been multiple times talked in this channel.

[worldly stirrup]

One game that is okay for IOS keeps freezing my game

I screenshotted the name

[rigid fossil]

Is it just me or are the prices a little different in the shop when you go to buy vrchat money I mean bc yes I have vrchat plus and I play pc but I go on the vrchat app and it shows the prices but not how they would be if you have vrchat plus which makes stuff cheaper like on vrchat pc it showed one of the options up to $25 and on iOS it shows it as $29

And I’m kinda right but that’s bc I just checked on the app and on pc itself on the pc side they do have the $25 dollar option for 3,000 vrchat coins but on iOS they don’t but they have all the others

[worldly stirrup]

It won’t let me log into my account because my username has a space in it 😭

😭😭😭😭😭😭

I’m trying everything, and nothing is working
I’ve changed my password several times,
Nothing is working

[stark silo]

apple tax

apple takes a significant cut therefore th prices are higher

same goes for cross platform games like warframe; plat is more expensive on ios than thru pc

[stark silo]

have you triedyour email

[rigid fossil]

Well good thing I did it on steam

[haughty kettle]

Is there issues with VRChat and Lockdown mode? There shouldn’t be but I’m wondering if there is.

[unkempt burrow]

i got a question how do i turn on my avatar wheel thingy on moblie

[cloud vapor]

bottom right hold button in, it shows a menu

[rough barn]

Can you not unfriend on the companion app? 🤔

I can’t see anything for it

[placid cosmos]

wht

[stark silo]

VRC uses an older version of Unity (2022 to be specific) that isn't well suited for the iOS/Mac compatibility layer
This means that this is beyond VRC's control and is not their fault, but rather a bug since it was around the time you could start running iOS/iPadOS apps within the MacOS environment
Unless VRC can migrate to Unity 5(?), which is a fucking hell of a hassle (see also: Unity 2019 to Unity 2022 in 2023), this will not be fixed and is beyond VRC's scope

(Anyone who has a better technical knowhow feel free to correct me)

[stark silo]

iirc the companion part of the app is still more of a dollar store vrcx
until they get other major fixes down, I don't think it's much of a priority
I'm pretty sure we're yet to get the hero mobile quests too

[rough barn]

hero mobile quests? what's that

[stark silo]

It's a (currently) Android exclusive feature where you do some stuff in VRC mobile for Android to get a badge

Some people like Haxy have it on their profile

Probably functions similar to the candy codex but for mobile

[rough barn]

Wowsers yes we do need that lol

[sullen dome]

When are we gonna fix video players

[sullen dome]

Wanted to watch vids with a friend but can’t

[mellow stream]

Lots of apps charge more on iOS cus Apple charges awful fees to devs

Take BitLife for example

[civic yacht]

Question… how do I get VRchat chat on ios…

Is there a way to get it yet

Wait nvm I just realized it’s out lol

[mellow rain]

How do I even play?

[sullen dome]

If you have 5 gigabytes…it’s time for an upgrade

[tulip parrot]

Idk man lowkey giving up on VRChat

[gritty star]

Idk bro

[radiant fable]

RAM is not that type of storage it's volatile memory meaning it doesn't retain data when power is cut and is used by the CPU/GPU to access data faster

[cloud vapor]

If you don't know the difference between RAM and Storage you shouldn't be playing

[cloud vapor]

What's your device?

[fluid shadow]

You cant since your device does not fill the requirements to play.

[sullen dome]

The equivalent of: if you don’t know the difference between a tangerine and an orange, you shouldn’t be eating either

People can still play.

They don’t HAVE to know the differences, if their device is suitable for play.

[true cargo]

more like not knowing the difference between gasoline and diesel

[sullen dome]

As long as that’s closer

[true cargo]

you require gasoline but think this amount of diesel is what its talking about

cant run a gasoline car with diesel

[cloud vapor]

agree

[true cargo]

dont know the difference and suddenly you filled your car with diesel expecting it to work

[rotund lichen]

I cannot connect to my account on the app when i out the correct password and email even the username doesn't work. I know it's now and update since i JUST downloaded it so there must be an issue somewhere that i don't know about or a setting

Nvm now has decided to work -.-

[obtuse trench]

Does anyone else have their notifications stolen while they are online? Mine go to my phone and instantly go away on my headset

[haughty kettle]

What device is this?!

[haughty kettle]

You uhh… have less storage than the current iPhones have memory.

[haughty kettle]

Nice two TB

Also that’s not local storage I just realized

VRChat needs local storage

[gritty star]

Yup, thats an iCloud storage with free plan

Thats what you get for buying an iPhone

[clear igloo]

I just wish the pink would stop killing textures... my worst problem with ios is just missing textures.

[stark silo]

Would you prefer they be blue

[cloud vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/cososo-gif-18216600

[cosmic sedge]

I'm having the exact same problem. I actually got a headache from the flashing lights, and that usually never happens to me.
I'll try restarting my phone yeah :(

[cosmic sedge]

Not sure what's the issue, phone isn't having any problems as this happens

[cosmic sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/spinel-garden-waiting-waiting-patiently-space-gif-17939383
ios

[cosmic sedge]

Managed to (sort of) get the game loaded, but it got stuck in a join loop

[cosmic sedge]

If this is a bug that cannot be fixed, I guess I'll have to ask a friend to get some avatars from there.
It's unfortunate, since this is probably the best device I've ever had (iPhone 12 pro max).

[haughty kettle]

People need to uhh… make stuff and not say “oh I won’t make stuff for it”

[true cargo]

You can always just make something

[haughty kettle]

I’m unfortunately unable to currently

[true cargo]

You really shouldnt force people to make their stuff for something

[haughty kettle]

If a platform is claimed to be supported then it should be supported

[stark silo]

hence why the indicators are there for whether a piece of content on vrc is actually supported
it’s a wonder that android auto-conversions are a thing for iOS, but native VRC platform building is like being a chef: you have to cook ingredients considering the allergies of different customers, but you really can’t figure that out unless you’re told exclusively of said allergies — same logic applies to general VRC content stuff, there’s only so much balance between passionately putting work into a world/avatar and optimizing it for as many people to experience that it boils down to if it’s worth going the extra mile

[true cargo]

You can open the game yes? You can load into a world yes?

Then its supported

Expecting people to cater to your platform just because you feel like you should get it is a bit rude

[ebon ember]

is there anyway to turn off push to talk on mobile??

or is it just stuck like that

[cosmic sedge]

You should be able to change it in the settings, I did it

[haughty kettle]

The icons lie though. It’ll say “supported” but it clearly isn’t

[stark silo]

You can only disable push to talk if you connect headphones

This is just to prevent echoing

[stark silo]

That means it hasn't been fully converted for iOS, functionality over fashion, as they call it

[haughty kettle]

That’s like saying a computer works great for CAD because it turns on. iOS VRChat “works” but right now pretty much everything but basic gameplay is broken.

Materials and shaders not working correctly or consistently, video players not working at all, etc. transparency especially seems to have issues despite iOS not having issues rendering alpha transparency.

[haughty kettle]

So then why is it marked as such?

[stark silo]

I can deal with a few broken textures here and there (see also: warframe on ios being buggy as FUCK)
But for what it's worth, running is considered compatibility

[haughty kettle]

If is isn’t actually compatible why are the saying it is?

[haughty kettle]

I guess there’s a difference between “compatible” and “good compatibility”

[stark silo]

My iPad could technically "run" a PS2 emulator hence "compatible"
That's really the best logical analogy

[haughty kettle]

My iPhone can run PPSSPP (sorta)

(Don’t turn off JIT)

[stark silo]

this is true

PS2 runs like dogshit on iOS but that's really not the point I'm running across
Really, it's all in the matter of getting VRC to run on iOS atm

[haughty kettle]

It does technically run

[stark silo]

hence "compatible"

[haughty kettle]

And when it works properly it’s amazing

[stark silo]

that didn't reply properly

[haughty kettle]

Eh

[stark silo]

i was trying to reply to your other rebuttal about video players

until the video player prefab creators can somehow work with iOS' weird audio systems, video players will remain broke

[haughty kettle]

The video players need to be fixed 😭

It isn’t even audio anymore

[stark silo]

Haxy's airship world is the only world I know with a """"working""" video player

[haughty kettle]

It’s “at all”

[haughty kettle]

iOS you have a few ways to do audio but the most common is “coreaudio”

I think Apple has docs for it

[stark silo]

working in the beta

Only certain players and certain versions work

[haughty kettle]

Which players work?

Also does AVP work?

I’m hoping iOS gets more content

But I don’t have the time or equipment to make content of any kind right now

[stark silo]

Idk what version of ProTV Haxy used but that's the only version that seems to work the best

[haughty kettle]

Hmm

[stark silo]

@zenith solar have you touched the iOS airship build at all recently

[ebon ember]

OH ok thanks

[zenith solar]

Don't think so

Its protv v3 though

[dreamy spindle]

for me the audio of the viedeoplayer in Haxy's Airship does not work

[stark silo]

Hence working in heavy quotes

[dreamy spindle]

VRChat has been aware of the iOS audio issue with video players for over a year - but unfortunately, not much has been done about it 🙁

[stark silo]

Like I mentioned, iOS handles audio very differently
With the addition of Steam Audio apparently being implemented in the future, expect these kinds of things to break in the meantime

You can thank apple for that

Until VRC can figure out how to get audio working where it not only functions but also syncs up for all users, it's hard to say if it'll be fixed any time soon

[dreamy spindle]

Audio generally works with standard audio sources (and the bug was fixed for distance volume falloff some weeks ago). Only the videoplayer problem is open

[haughty kettle]

Steam Audio is iOS compatible though

However I’m not aware of any games that use it

[stark silo]

Yeah that’s why I mentioned the apparent implementation from early betas
I’d be interested to see what games use it, but idk how much of a difference it would make since most iOS games have low quality audio

[haughty kettle]

A well made iOS game will have decent audio. There’s an issue I’ve been having though with audio randomly becoming deep fried when using AirPods

[stark silo]

Not surprised really, bluetooth kills audio quality like a feep fryer with old ass oil
Warframe had to reduce a lot of quality both audio and visual just to run, RE8 had a similar case
Games made natively for iOS tend to have higher sound quality, but a lot end up nuking the bitrate just for the sake of battery life and stuff

Even PUBG mobile on "Extreme" sound quality sounds bad

[haughty kettle]

This seems to only have audio issues in games and seems to happen specifically when they get slightly dislodged

And I don’t have issues with music listening for extended time periods

[stark silo]

Apparently audio can take up a LOT of memory when it comes to VRChat, I heard a single OGG 2MB OGG file can absolutely spike up high
Not sure if this was a bug

[haughty kettle]

Or YouTube videos either

[stark silo]

When it comes to music and videos it's a weird case really

[haughty kettle]

There might just be a bug with AirPods when playing games that causes this

[stark silo]

Some instances my IEMs will sound better than my wireless earbuds

[haughty kettle]

Might be the noise cancellation or spatializing system

[stark silo]

That could do it yeah, I hear a lot of complaints about AirPods regarding that

It could just be reduced quality for reduced latency to be fair

I suspect Game Mode would do this

[haughty kettle]

That’s different from just breaking entity

[haughty kettle]

Might be a slight dislodge causing it to think game audio is outside audio

[stark silo]

Entity?

[stark silo]

likely unavailable for iOS

it could also be ranked very poor

[indigo shard]

Isn't it because of safety settings?

[true cargo]

it does have the lock

[tropic orbit]

Anyone know why ios vrchat aint workin? I have plent space so idkk

[true cargo]

Ram isnt storage space

[tropic orbit]

Whats it mean by ram

[cloud vapor]

What's your Device?

[tropic orbit]

Ios ipad

[cloud vapor]

What ipad version? It's in settings -> general -> about -> model name

[small solstice]

Heyyy iOS friends

[cosmic sedge]

Anyone know why I can't hear audio that's toggled in the action menu? Or is it a memory issue

[cosmic sedge]

Let me rephrase, avatar sfx that can be toggled through the action menu. For some reason I cannot hear it in my end.

[true cargo]

avatars dont have audio on mobile

audio in unity is very cpu heavy

[cosmic sedge]

ah thank you

Figured

[indigo shard]

That's the funny part (for me), we could hear avatar SFX from PC users without performance issues but not on Quest (play on non PC)

[pearl nymph]

I think it’s bullshit they can’t audio to function as good as pc. People say it’s because of the 10MB limit on avatars. But that’s bullshit too because I’ve loaded avatars over 100MB on quest. There is no way you can’t to it. I’ve heard audio from quest avatars veryyy rarely.

[stark silo]

1. Audio on mobile devices work differently compared to PC, and it’s a miracle it works at all on iOS, Android and PC while all synced; You can thank Apple for their audio workings to be built different (tm)

2. The avatar limit was for optimization reasons, otherwise say byebye to your performance on the lowest end device that can run VRC

3. That last point was an exploit patched extremely quickly in 2022(?)

[stark silo]

Very poors have a limit on iOS iirc, and depends on the device

[indigo shard]

On Android, does not have robot like that before the very poor avis allowed. iOS might be a bit different ig

[stark silo]

It's really just due to the differences in the OS
Android gives you more freedom, while VRC had to deal with apple shit

[sturdy cargo]

Check your content filters

[haughty kettle]

iPhones have really good CPUs but your main concern on mobile is battery life

[haughty kettle]

Apple is weird

[haughty kettle]

Very poor work on iOS too

But the recompiler for shaders and materials is crap

[stark silo]

You make native iOS versions of your content atp

[rigid surge]

Thing is that they aren't recompiling the shaders, they are just replacing them with known ones, which afaik are the VRChat mobile shaders.
So no world shaders would convert cleanly.

Pretty sure the system for adapting Android content to IOS did both worlds and avatars.

[haughty kettle]

It’s super broken

[haughty kettle]

That’s probably best since you can optimize it for each platform and get relative parity across the board

[cosmic sedge]

I love iOS

[haughty kettle]

What’s the name of the world?

[stark silo]

Haxy's airshkp

[cosmic sedge]

Unfortunately it crashes upon joining for me (flickering lights) despite hearing the ambience

[haughty kettle]

Video player doesn’t work for me at all

[radiant fable]

I don't think you guys will be getting that anytime soon unfortunately.

https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/?utm_source=chatgpt.com#intellectual-property

[haughty kettle]

I don’t think allowing you to play videos from a media service such as YouTube breaks this rule.

Or really anywhere

Since you’re just playing the video and not actually saving it.

It’s probably something to do with the video rendering backend on iOS

VRChat will need to update to support it

[radiant fable]

._.

[haughty kettle]

Damn

So then why did they release this again?

[radiant fable]

Because there's is more to VRC then video players

[haughty kettle]

Eh

[cosmic sedge]

anyone notice that flight mechanics you can toggle on some avatars are broken? I've tried different ones yet they all seem to not work

answer: ios sucks and it needs to explode

[cloud vapor]

that's a bit much

[sturdy cargo]

If you are talking about gogo loco, you will need to turn on face mirror first before activating flight

[placid cosmos]

Do you love vision OS

[cosmic sedge]

That did work, thank you

It did not work with the monster hunter avatars I use frequently, which use "flight collider". shshdakaljhxnxjskwhdbxn I just want to be a silly dragon and fly

[rough barn]

Me, adding anti flight to all my games: 😈

[covert hornet]

so VRChat was released on the app store but i downloaded it and an so disappointed my Iphone 11 doesnt have the conputing power to actually play the game 😭

im just hoping that when i get one of the more newer ones soon it will be powerful enough 🙏

[thick rune]

When is vrchat releaseing on app store

[round current]

it's been out for a few weeks

[thick rune]

Are… you.. KI-

Omg

[cosmic sedge]

Looks like other flight toggles don't work outside of gogo loco. Should I DM the person who made the model and try asking them? (Personally, I'm scared of vrc users...)

[teal gate]

Yea

[stark silo]

Video stream seems to work, meaning VRC's YT-DLP fork must be working
Unfortunately TechAnon themselves doesn't even know why this is the case with whatever version of ProTV Haxy's using in his Airship world, at least in the beta back in January (when I was harassed to test it)

[haughty kettle]

I’m having issues on all worlds. Can you check if this is an issue caused by lockdown mode?

[stark silo]

That has to be the weirdest fuckin way to activate it😭 😭 😭

[stark silo]

Lockdown mode on iOS or VRC?

[haughty kettle]

iOS

[stark silo]

I don't have my iPad on my rn since I just got back from my job
My XR would br a no-go so I'll give you some insight when I get home

[haughty kettle]

Okay

[stark silo]

But I don't know if I even have lockdown mode on my iDevices

[haughty kettle]

It’s in your privacy and security settings

Also a few more worlds recently got updated to iOS

[stark silo]

My iPhone XR's on iOS 17 so idk if it exists for it

I stand corrected

Lockdown mode might actually be a factor since it might as well have some super duper secret DNS or firewall that prevents features that VRC uses to function

[indigo shard]

Sometimes you don't need to open your face mirror to activate flight. There are gigantic mirrors that exist to make it work like Prismic and Furry Hideout for example

[cosmic sedge]

having a mirror to enable it is strange though.

[haughty kettle]

It shouldn’t cause issues though and my phone is using manual dns configs

[stark silo]

You'd be surprised how much that could affect things

[haughty kettle]

Yeah there’s like one or two games I can’t play with it on because they require Game Center or were basically scams

[stark silo]

Not sure the need for lockdown mode to begin with but VRC worlds and stuff probably call for things lockdown mode doesnt like

I would seriously consider an opening on the canny because who knows what else is affected

[haughty kettle]

I’m gonna check if turning off lockdown mode “fixes” anything

[haughty kettle]

I wonder if that’s what’s breaking video players or if the video player backend for iOS VRChat isn’t updated to work with iOS yet

I suspect it’s the latter

[stark silo]

most likely, i don't have lockdown mode enabled

[haughty kettle]

Are video players working in more worlds now?

[stark silo]

They're """Working"""

[haughty kettle]

Like the ones recently updated to iOS compatibility

[stark silo]

all have the issue of either being purple, fucked contrast or dysfunctional
but they all lack audio

[haughty kettle]

Also iOS VRChat gets hit by the same memory usage bug as windows does

[haughty kettle]

Yeah the players will need to be updated to work with iOS then

Eh it’ll happen eventually

iOS VRChat is super new anyways

[stark silo]

it's more of the fact that vrc's audio engine probably doesn't completely play nice with ios

[rough barn]

Wonder if steam audio helps with that part at all

[haughty kettle]

The video players still use their own system to decode audio

Steam Audio while being iOS compatible is only being used by the spatializer

They still need to use coreaudio i think

[stark silo]

i can't imagine the nightmare techanon will suffer trying to get all that working plus coreaudio compatibility PLUS syncing it with all users

[haughty kettle]

Luckily I’m pretty sure iOS also supports a few other backends too

[stark silo]

Yeah no, haxy’s ProTV is the only thing that “works”

[haughty kettle]

Also why didn’t they just use molten VK?

[haughty kettle]

That’s the same one in a few other worlds? Can you put a video link in from YouTube?

[stark silo]

this is a youtube link, my album video in fact

[haughty kettle]

Vulkan to Metal

[stark silo]

shameless self promotion moment
but yeah, let me see if this works in some other updated worlds

[haughty kettle]

Okay

[stark silo]

primarily because of the fact that unity natively supports metal iirc

[haughty kettle]

Does it also work with lockdown mode or is it just weird

[haughty kettle]

Eh sure

[stark silo]

i can't really be bothered to activate lockdown mode

[haughty kettle]

But also Android is using vulkan and vrchats compatibility shader is garbage

[stark silo]

to be fair i would imagine playing vrc on arm alone would equate to chaos

you arenot gonna fucking believe this

i found a world

With.
Working.
Audio.

YTS works????

@haughty kettle check out YTS 3.0 right fucking now and confirm this with me

this is INSANE

[haughty kettle]

My phone is charging

Let me check when it’s charged past 80%

[stark silo]

yeah no take your time but i didn't expect this to have SOUND

[haughty kettle]

17 minutes

[cosmic sedge]

what world is this holy shit

[stark silo]

YTS 3.0

[haughty kettle]

When it works iOS audio is good

I have a PSP emulator and it’s amazing

Sadly MIPS emulation is pain

[stark silo]

Here's the thing
Haxy's airship natively seems to play videos at 1080P (or 720P) but there's no audio
YTS has audio but seems to be stuck at 360P

[haughty kettle]

Jank

[stark silo]

shoving texture upscales makes things look heavenly

[haughty kettle]

You should be able to change the quality

[stark silo]

I'm double checking it

[haughty kettle]

I just run the 2x since I have a non-pro iPhone

[stark silo]

i run native/auto and my xr works just fine

[haughty kettle]

If you know of a surround audio source video swap the audio to surround sound if the player supports it and see if the sound comes from all around

[haughty kettle]

I meant for the textures

[stark silo]

There’s no way to change the video output quality it seems

But weirdly enough the video’s upside down on the phone screen

Yeah something’s going on with certain video players lmao

[haughty kettle]

Not working for me at all

[haughty kettle]

Nevermind I’m just an idiot

[haughty kettle]

This world works properly for me on both normal and lockdown mode. Direct YouTube url entry is broken and that’s the only one that doesn’t break

Exoplanet Journey retries too fast and rate limits me instantly

[haughty kettle]

It works if you use the YouTube search function

That nuked half my battery tho

And it seems AVPro players are the issue

My poor phone 😭

Even with all background activity turned off

Direct url input is also null on PC

[stark silo]

that's what i was using ye

[shadow junco]

That's not why there's a giant mirror but glad it helps 😅

[haughty kettle]

Works the same for me on iOS and windows

[long lotus]

Hello! Is there any way to play with an iPhone SE 2020 (A13 bionic/3GB RAM)?

or are there no options?

[pale sable]

Okay i just saw the app on the app store but i really want to play it i likely have an iphone12 pro or something i was wondering if its possible it will be available in any brand?

[rough barn]

#ios-discussion message

[rough barn]

According to the lists there, 12pro should be able to play

[pale sable]

It said something about 6GB

I did remove everything in my storage and the bar is low

[rough barn]

Some iphones don’t have enough ram to play it

[pale sable]

Nothing happened

[rough barn]

It’s not storage, it’s the ram that came in the phone

Not something you can change

[pale sable]

Dang that kinda sucks

I was gonna have a good time playing it

[rough barn]

Yeah your only option is to upgrade phones unfortunately

[pale sable]

i couldn't likely afford enough to get an upgrade

Hopefully soon i could get one

[rough barn]

Yeah I wouldn’t either, I get it

[pale sable]

Trust me as i load in creative in fortnite and use any really good map of Cod Zombies the app crashes alot

Very much meaning the phone is very old

https://tenor.com/view/bf-gf-girlfriend-boyfriend-fnf-gif-16822914008880281078

[cloud vapor]

12 pro have 6gb of ram

Also ram is not storage, you will always have 6gb. Just install and enjoy the game!

[cloud vapor]

person left oh well xD

[haughty kettle]

VRChat is a very memory heavy application, so it’s unlikely.

[placid prairie]

Hey is vrchat available for Xbox?

[cosmic sedge]

I wish there was an option to disable heavy effects (like particles) in the settings. I feel like it may be a reason why worlds would crash on lower end devices, being another "straw on the camels back".

[rigid surge]

no

[placid prairie]

Okay

[stark silo]

Due to presumable content regulations and stuff, it's extremely unlikely that consoles will receive VRC access
Even a PS5 would chug on VRC

[stark silo]

This would entirely be on the creators of worlds

[cosmic sedge]

I've got a lot to learn about the functions of vrc then c:

[cloud vapor]

surprisingly not xD

[haughty kettle]

My laptop is about as powerful as a PS-5 and it runs VRChat just fine

[haughty kettle]

You do have the particle limiter at least

[haughty kettle]

Also when it comes to games your local storage is the most important storage since your phone needs those files quickly and easily.

[stark silo]

head to any COMA. world in VR with antialiasing on 8x and come back to me with your fps results

[stark silo]

yeah it's all in the matter of the creators to optimize their worlds

[haughty kettle]

Why are you running 8x?

[stark silo]

my point is VRC has a lot of unoptimizations that would make it nigh unacceptable for PS5 standards... disregarding the AI slop games

[haughty kettle]

Also I have 64GB of RAM and my laptop doesn’t struggle as much and I overflow my video memory compared to other systems

[haughty kettle]

Mostly its memory usage

[stark silo]

just because something like roblox is on xbox doesn't immediately equate to vrc having the same treatment

[haughty kettle]

On iOS I can only show like 3 avatars at a time

[stark silo]

again, bandage optimizations

[haughty kettle]

It’s a result of the horrible memory usage

[stark silo]

vrc doesn't have the budget to do full R&D into fully optimizing the game for ios

[haughty kettle]

And I have to use a stupid workaround to fully show avatars anyways

[stark silo]

^

[haughty kettle]

Because VRChat is a memory hog

[stark silo]

vrc working on iOS to begin with is a miracle period

[haughty kettle]

True

But iPhones are already very good at managing their own memory

And it runs fine for me in compatible worlds

[stark silo]

so is lunatic rave 2 but people tend to find ways to optimize that shitshow of a game
the issue lies within so many people being understandably unskilled enough to optimize their worlds for all platforms, that would require some developer type knowledge

worlds like haxy's only run so well at full 120hz on my ipad because he has a programming background

[haughty kettle]

That’s true, though I’ve not hit the low memory thing on most iOS compatible worlds

[stark silo]

the average vrc content creator isn't gonna go the full length to learn C# just to optimize their waterfalls

[haughty kettle]

Then again I’m on an iPhone 16 and I’ve disabled background all activity

[haughty kettle]

There is like one iOS world with waterfalls and idk if it’s still broken or not

[stark silo]

my ipad has a """"desktop"""" cpu but i haven't tried finding worlds that would lag me enough to bother me

[haughty kettle]

It’s faster than my “server” CPU

[stark silo]

the point is that most creators for vrc don't know the advanced knowledge to optimize their worlds

[haughty kettle]

And yeah the Apple CPUs are powerful but VRChat redlines any CPU

[haughty kettle]

That’s true

[stark silo]

vrc's base is seemingly okay enough, but again, like i said, it's usually the content creators that end up adding the extra bulk

[haughty kettle]

Most of them just port the quest version over

[stark silo]

the best worlds don't need 3000 qvpens, 500 photoframes and an 8k texture for a toothbrush

[haughty kettle]

Does using basic realtime lighting help at all?

[haughty kettle]

The pens don’t even work on iOS

[stark silo]

if you program the shader to place nice with lower end specs

[stark silo]

facepalm.gif

[haughty kettle]

Just basic HW lighting

Doesn’t need to be complex it’s a social game

[stark silo]

my point that i'm driving across is that vrc's inner machinations are already such a clusterfuck of both trying to optimize the base game itself and the amount of content creators pushing out stuff that might not play nice when they might have like thousands of scripts together
it's to be expected that ios needs these bottlenecks so the ipads and iphones don't turn into bacon cookers

any trust me when i say every dev i've met would rather book a ticket to brazil than to develop anything for ios

[haughty kettle]

It sucks that Apple stuff is hard to develop for

[stark silo]

it really does, the hardware has a lot of potential but once innovation died, so did the process to make developing for it easier

the game porting toolkit they made to make resident evil 8 possible for ios was the fattest bandaid solution they could think of

surprised i even beat the goddamn game

[cosmic sedge]

warned some friends that the YTS game would crash, but it didn't?
Everything seemed to function fine except for the fact that I was stuck on the join screen.
Watching YTPs with audio only I guess

I could also hear the UI sfx when I messed around with the screen. Not sure what's happening here

[cosmic sedge]

Tried entering it, seems like it loaded properly but apparently "lost connection with vrchat". Automatically loaded again, and was met with flashing lights :)

[cosmic sedge]

Managed to recreate it.

[haughty kettle]

Might be network issues

[long lotus]

If you're sitting with 2-3 people and have the right settings, 2GB of RAM will be enough for him.

Well, at least I was able to achieve this on the computer.

[true cargo]

definitely not

[long lotus]

a small, optimized instance, and a bit of shamanism in the settings (to put it simply, we either turn avatars into potatoes, or simply turn them off)

[true cargo]

the phone itself needs to also use that ram

[long lotus]

In this particular case, 2GB of RAM will be enough for the game.

[true cargo]

its definitely not enough

[long lotus]

I tested this on a PC, and I'm talking about the application's consumption, not the entire system.

[true cargo]

but the phone ALSO uses those resources so its not stable let alone if it even could run an instance without crashing

[long lotus]

I have an iPhone SE 2020 (2nd gen), it has 3 GB of RAM, and when there isn't enough memory, iOS seems to reduce it to 700 MB, leaving 2300

[true cargo]

its not "leaving" it

[long lotus]

I remember playing on a great system once... Core 2 Duo e8400 3GB RAM (because I simply didn't have any more) GT9500 256MB without a paging file, and it ran on Windows 10, which ate 1.1GB of RAM. There were no crashes, just some pretty serious lag.

[true cargo]

thats a miracle

[long lotus]

There are only two options here: either I'm the luckiest person in the world and spent all my luck on chatting on VRChat at the time, or it was supposed to work this way

[true cargo]

when I tried sideloading onto a 4gb phone it couldnt even open an instance let alone not lag in the selection menu

[long lotus]

If you enable RamPlus on your Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite by adding 2GB of RAM, VrChat will run smoothly. But the most interesting thing is that it will also work even if you disable RamPlus.

🙂

[long lotus]

If you don't know, ramplus isn't free RAM, it's literally a swap file forcibly renamed to RAM.

[cloud vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-confused-blinking-okay-white-guy-blinking-gif-7513882

me reading this whole conversation

[stark silo]

Absolutely not how it works
Memory management on mobile devices works very differently, and recent iOS versions use a pretty hefty amount of device RAM to run the OS itself
I'm left with barely any RAM on the iPhone XR here for example

Sure, I got VRC booting on a 2012 MacBook Pro dualbooted to Windows 10 with like 4GB of RAM, but it required the window to be resized to like 10% of the screen
Still ran on 10FPS and crashed a lot

[haughty kettle]

What app is that?

[stark silo]

Screeny
It's no longer on the App Store but there's other hardware monitor apps

[haughty kettle]

No, the phone also has to use its memory for graphics and VRChat is a big memory hog. Even small worlds will eat memory

[haughty kettle]

Do you know any good ones?

[stark silo]

Any will do

[haughty kettle]

Okay

I wish there was one I could have as an overlay or Dynamic Island

[haughty kettle]

I shouldn’t be having much issues with my 8GB RAM iPhone

[true cargo]

the menu before you load into an instance is a memory hog lmao

[haughty kettle]

That too

And there’s a lot of things that cause lag

For instance the Unity video player

[stark silo]

No wonder it's locked to 30FPS

[cosmic sedge]

Not sure about that, my internet was working just fine before entering

[long lotus]

It's a pity that my experience with PC was not suitable.

🙁

[zinc hull]

I'm playing on an iPad 11 Pro 2021. And the avatars don't really work. Is this somehow related to the device's memory?

[haughty kettle]

???

[long lotus]

There may be a translation error, I'll try to translate the phrase into logical parts: "It's a pity that my experience with the computer" "was not appropriate for mobile devices"

[haughty kettle]

Not sure

[haughty kettle]

You need to be in the same avatar as them (I recommend having them clone an avi that you know for sure works properly on iOS) then you can turn their avatar on and they can switch and it’ll still be shown as long as it’s compatible or something didn’t break. Please note however there’s a limit to how many you can show at a time.

(It’s like 4 I think)

[weary canyon]

I got a question

[lapis prism]

since its out on ios, is it possible to get a mac port? cause i mean, plenty of tools that could be used to per say hack someone can't even be used on mac. i know theres definitely more precise reasoning, but i still think we should be able to download it, even as a ipad app.

[cloud vapor]

Mac Apps require a newer version of unity that VRChat lacks, when the beta was out me and some others tested it, the launcher works but the game crashed the mac. we first have to wait until VRChat updates the unity engine but it's possible as an ipad ported app then ^^

[haughty kettle]

The only way to do this is to use the iPhone emulator built in to the MacBook Pro models

[cloud vapor]

Unless you live in the eu like me xD no iphone mirroring for me

[haughty kettle]

Oooof

Also it only works on M series MacBooks afaik

[zinc hull]

But the settings in the application themselves require display in 10

[lapis prism]

iphone mirroring is on imac m3 as well. would that work? assuming so

[stark silo]

I've mirrored my iOS devices through AirServer and it works just fine
It's probably a different protocol on native macOS but it should work in theory, just hook up a gamepad or use a mouse and keyboard

[cosmic sedge]

Anyone know why I can't fly?

[haughty kettle]

I think the native “emulator” is on M series only

[haughty kettle]

?????

I described how I got it to work. VRChat iOS doesn’t like loading avatars that aren’t already loaded I guess…

[haughty kettle]

Is this world supposed to have flat colors everywhere?

[cosmic sedge]

That's unrelated, but it's from a cartoon. This is still not properly ported to iOS.

[fallen dawn]

Whenever y I go to “play” it says that I have less then 6gb of ram why is that I’m not a tech guy so I just need a little help.

[teal gate]

Ram and storage are two different things

[rigid surge]

And phone manufacturers have been needlessly confusing people by using the word memory for storage while everywhere else it means RAM.

[haughty kettle]

There’s an issue iOS has had where things will be drawn with solid colors even when they shouldn’t be solid at all. (Transparency)

[cosmic sedge]

Thank you for the clarification :)

[haughty kettle]

It’s from improperly ported materials

iOS itself has no issues rendering transparency and stuff

[static gulch]

My game just crash when I join black cat with 19 people only

[haughty kettle]

The game eats most of the iPhone 16 memory

[static gulch]

I am on iPhone 16 pro max and it not even working good I had to hide everyone avatar and my friend avatar from crashing

[haughty kettle]

VRChat is memory inefficient

This is with it automatically trying to free memory whenever it hits 97% btw

[static gulch]

They need to fix it

[haughty kettle]

Only active, wired, and compressed are actually important tbh.

[static gulch]

And it overheat my
Phone too and my phone is not even 2 months old

[rigid surge]

Aside from the VRChat menu which is notably memory heavy, everything else is user generated content and there is little to nothing they can do to make that more memory efficient without changing how the platform works on a basic level.

[haughty kettle]

That’s an iPhone issue. They get very warm when doing some stuff. The 17 pro has a vapor chamber for that exact reason.

[haughty kettle]

VRChat runs in Unity, Unity for some reason is very cpu heavy. Mobile doesn’t support workarounds like AVPro for video players which leads to the CPU having to do more work than it should.

[stark silo]

wat widget is this

[haughty kettle]

Device Monitor

It’s the live activity

[stray shore]

🪦

Well, I can't play in destroying my 5G.

[cloud vapor]

Rip

[marsh helm]

Do you guys know any shops that sell avatars similar to this one?
Or maybe the name of a creator in the game who makes this style?

[true cargo]

Jinxxy or booth

[mint harbor]

the one on the right is a heavily edited sio from booth.pm!!

[digital badger]

why it cant run iphone xs because it have low ram

[junior perch]

Anyone having issues where it says they need to update the VRC app to continue playing ? But like.. I checked the App Store & Test flight. It’s up to date ?
Ver : 2025.3.3 build 600

[fluid shadow]

Check AppStore, Go to Profile, pulll down, now it updates

[junior perch]

Nothing there- it’s up to date

[rough barn]

@junior perch have you restarted your phone and tried again, both updating and playing?

[junior perch]

Nvm I figured it outttt
I had to delete the TestFlight and go into the official build in the iOS App Store

[rough barn]

That makes sense yeye

[gilded apex]

Hi VRChat team I really love VRChat. I have an iPhone 11 Pro Max (4 GB RAM). I understand performance matters but would it be possible to add a “low-RAM mode” or “small-world mode” that works on 4 GB phones? Many users like me can’t afford high-end devices but still want to be part of the community. Thanks for listening :).

[rigid surge]

-# Since the team very rarely answer questions
More RAM doesn't increase performance it just increases stability (especially when getting above the bare minimum).
During the android beta I sideloaded it to a 4GB phone and while it of course wasn't a powerful thing, it had frequent and harsh stutters, to the point where the phone was almost locking up in a reasonably sized world while entirely on my own, this is the effect of not enough RAM.

They did talk about trying to lower the required amount many months ago, but seen nothing else about it, there is just only so much they can do without replacing how entire systems work. It is unfortunate that Apple is so especially stingy with RAM.

[cloud vapor]

you don't need to buy an iPhone 17 Pro Max, you could buy a used iPhone 14 or 14 Pro and be golden ^^

[gilded apex]

what if people dont have enough money?

[gilded apex]

Oh.. Bro, I checked with the VRChat team.
iPhones with 4 GB RAM can’t run VRChat worlds yet because they freeze and crash.
They tested 4 GB phones and they almost lock up even in tiny worlds.
They said they might fix it in the future, but it’s very hard and might take a long time.

[rigid surge]

I would assume it will never get support, RAM amounts in devices is on average going up, some day 6GB won't be enough.

[cloud vapor]

Then you don't play VRC mobile. This is the way.

[haughty kettle]

VRChat uses a lot of RAM

[haughty kettle]

iPhones are almost always using most of their memory. Although a good chunk of it is inactive memory or being stolen by the OS.

Does the 17 pro get more memory than the 16?

[haughty kettle]

The device is unsupported by vrchat due to the memory requirements

[cloud vapor]

17 pro have 12gb ram but i don't have one so can't verify how much it uses in game compared to my 8gb iphone 17

[haughty kettle]

Here’s what I get when in VRChat

For some reason iOS isn’t clearing inactive memory even when in game mode

[cloud vapor]

Interesting..

[haughty kettle]

It’s probably doing that so you can reopen “closed” apps easily maybe?

[gilded apex]

Oh... Okay soo Thank for talk

[gilded apex]

I know he told me @rigid surge