android-discussion

[uncut void]

Same here, im trying to change my passworf, and I cant. Jut realised this is only for android. Im having the problem on pc. What should I do?

[half tapir]

It does have it unless you got Chinese version

But global and Europe version definitely got Google stuff pre installed

Source: me having multiple Xiaomi devices

Anyone can post some pics of the UI?

[naive bluff]

PFFFF. As soon as I hit "Play" I get sent to the backrooms.

Here's the front page, btw.

[half tapir]

Oh ok

Interesting. Thanks

[light river]

Is vrchat mobile available already

[hardy garden]

Need VRC+ to get access to it

[lilac delta]

They will ping when it's ready, if you want to be first then sub to their youtube channel. They will release a video when mobile is out.

[light river]

When is it coming out I've been waiting a whole year since my headsets broken I have nothing to play VR chat my computer doesn't have a microphone I'm literally poor my headsets broken I don't know what to do

I'm literally impatient as hell

[naive bluff]

It'll come when it comes.

[light river]

I can't wait much longer

[naive bluff]

Freaking out about it won't make it come any sooner.

[light river]

I don't know what to do about VR chat I don't know what to do

You don't understand my pain and suffering I have autism and ADHD and I have no one to talk to or hang out with

[naive bluff]

Why not sub to VRC+ and use it then? 👀

[light river]

I can't I'm broke

[naive bluff]

Can't borrow $10 from someone?

[dense hawk]

You can get it gifted too

[naive bluff]

It's a lot better than freaking out.

[dense hawk]

Not exactly 🤔 there's ways to ask without coming out as rude

[light river]

Shut up

[naive bluff]

Wow.

No need for rudeness.

[naive bluff]

Ask one of your friends.

[light river]

Don't have any friends

[naive bluff]

Make some then.

[grand bolt]

i have it but it aint lettin me download

[naive bluff]

Is your phone supported?

[thorny star]

oh. honey. please. 💗

[light river]

I'm Just lonely

[hybrid tendon]

Couldn't you play VRChat desktop at least?

[light river]

I don't have a PC

[hybrid tendon]

But you said your computer has no microphone

I repeat, your, computer

[light river]

I see a lot of things but I just just can't believe the archive about a microphone and also a whole bunch of other stuff like my phone has a microphone it's the only thing that I can play VR chat right now because I don't have a microphone I don't have anything

[hybrid tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-sigh-cute-lucky-star-gif-12069368

[light river]

Just don't have any friends and people keep saying go touch grass people are being rude to me I just want to have fun that's all I want

[hybrid tendon]

Let me ask you this

[light river]

I'm doing someone's dirty work for promoting their business not in VR check but on here for commissions

[hybrid tendon]

What is it that you really love about VRChat, that you don't want to play other games?

[light river]

I get to make videos with friends and also I get to enjoy talking with the community

Also since my VR headset is broken I can't use VR chat without speaking and it's hard to type stuff without speaking it was no one even listen to my messages

The other thing I like about your chat it allows me to be expressive of my life

[light river]

That's why I love vr chat

[hybrid tendon]

Well, can't you contact your friends in any other ways than VRChat, during the time your VR headset is broken?

[lilac delta]

This is a new way of petty, VRC on mobile is not even good. Either pay vrc+ or accept that it's gonne be months before it be released.

Also you have a pc so it should still have vrc

I like the hub thingy that vrc mobile get. Remind me of thst old vrc tracker app i had installed on my phone. But give dark mode please lol

[thorny star]

the very much incomplete and still being heavily worked on alpha mobile client has a limited release scope on purpose

(because it's not ready for a wider public release)

[hybrid tendon]

Mhm

Like I said before, if you don't have VRC+ in the first place, just don't waste money spending it only for this mobile version

Unless if you're like me, having it for being able to store many favorite avatars/worlds

[lilac delta]

Reason i got vrc+ since the beginning: profile picture and banner picture. But yeah for what you get vrc+ should be either cheaper or get more features.

[half tapir]

I can't really do the profile picture thing without vrc+ but for the profile banner thing i simply upload whatever I want as the avatar picture via vrcx and it essentially does the same

Unless I switch to a avatar that has another picture of course

So the profile banner picture is bound to whatever avatar i use

[lilac delta]

that's why i can't live without it, it gives me a bit more privacy cause we all saw that one friend on red with a 'typical' avatar. so with vrc+ i use a wallpaper as my profile

but yeah i don't have much experience with vrcx

[half tapir]

Vrc+ unfortunately same as discord Nitro are subs i can't really justify to have

Especially now i get 70€ less each month

[lilac delta]

i have to disagee, nitro is litterly spoiling me with new stuff monthly xD

[half tapir]

(i do have Nitro now but just because I got 2 weeks for free. Will expire after these 2 weeks)

[half tapir]

Yeah but it's still 10€ each month. I don't want my monthly subscriptions to be 200€+ or whatever

[lilac delta]

that i understand ^^

[half tapir]

I don't necessarily need these features

As long i can use text and voice and screen share or whatever it's fine

[lilac delta]

fair

[hybrid tendon]

giggles
Yeah, I get that

[half tapir]

Found that even though the sdk supports avatar image uploads now too seperately vrcx still does it better. With sdk it zooms in the image for some reason after it's uploaded while using correct dimensions in vrcx makes it work like it should

[lilac delta]

ohhh!

[light river]

Just my PC doesn't have a microphone

And no one can hear me

[lilac delta]

and that's bad? i got so many mute friends

[hybrid tendon]

So you, do, have a PC...

[hybrid tendon]

Man

[finite cairn]

buy one

like 5 buck investment

[hybrid tendon]

A headset mic should be doable enough

[lilac delta]

yes, or even use your phone as your pc mic

[lilac delta]

^w^

[light river]

Shut up

[finite cairn]

?

Why are you so rude?

[light river]

Rude listen I have autism and ADHD and it's just unfair that you guys get to have VR chat plus and I'm stuck with nothing nothing and I'm tired of waiting for the stupid app it's already available in the store why can't they just release it to the public

[finite cairn]

???

[light river]

I know it's bad business model but it's already available

[finite cairn]

i dont even have VRC+ XD

[light river]

I just want to play VR chat I can't be muted I can't and I can't afford a brand new microphone

[finite cairn]

BUGS

i know that because i make my own game

game development is hard

VRC Mobile is currently in VERY early development

thats why it is currently VRC+ only

[light river]

Yeah I don't care I just want to play VR chat since that my headsets broken

I have no real life friends people keep telling me to go touch grass I have no friends

[finite cairn]

howd it break?

[light river]

Microphone broken on the headsets

[finite cairn]

did you check in the quick settings? or restarted the headset?

[light river]

A lot of times five times to be exact

[finite cairn]

did you check in the quick settings if your microphone was on?

[light river]

Yes I checked in quick settings in my microphone doesn't want to pick up anything so this is why I just want to play VR chat mobile at least until I can buy a brand new headset

[finite cairn]

no i mean the oculus ones

[light river]

Plus meta is being no help I'm just asking about if it's possible to use earbuds for a microphone because I actually own a pair of earbuds

[finite cairn]

you can!

you can pair bluetooth devices with your headset

[light river]

Meta is being salty

[finite cairn]

and there is a headphone jack on the Quest 2

[light river]

I've been talking to them for 2 hours straight about asking if I could use earbuds with a microphone built into them

I got blocked by a meta support member

FUCKING helll

[finite cairn]

wait a sec

im a dumbo

you can use bluetooth on your pc

[light river]

Yeah but my headphones microphone don't pick up for some reason

[finite cairn]

does windows not pick them up or does vrchat not pick them up

[light river]

Nope

This is why I just want to get at least a chance to play VR chat again because I have it for PC it's just well that's the only problem I don't have a good microphone I'm really really broke

My VR headset is the only thing that I have as for like a new console I have a still I still have a Nintendo wii a whole bunch of other old school stuff my gaming PC forget about it I'm still working on that thing and plus the microphone that doesn't exist on it doesn't work including with my own headsets AKA my airpods that got 5 years ago from a giveaway and those are starting to have issues with the microphone

[hybrid tendon]

...

[half tapir]

@light river https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/use-smartphone-windows-microphone/

[hybrid tendon]

You have autism and ADHD, but you treat people as if people disrespect you, while merely, we're just trying to point you out on solutions you can take into consideration

And you have to understand, that the current state of VRChat mobile app is still under alpha build, which means, bugs can happen

You have a PC, which can play this game just fine, and have less bugs to encounter than the mobile app version

So why don't you take that?

[half tapir]

Last i checked i couldn't even login anymore in the mobile app

It was straight up broken and just telling me i input wrong password

[hybrid tendon]

Hmm, dunno about you, but I could login okay today

[half tapir]

So even if he gains access no guarantee he can even use it

[hybrid tendon]

[half tapir]

Yeah no matter what I did i couldn't login. Kept telling me wrong credentials.

It worked before that UI update

UI update broke login somehow

[hybrid tendon]

That's unfortunate

[hexed iris]

As a person with autism, I would like to say that people like that need to stop using autism as an excuse for being rude to people for something that's mildly inconvenient. I don't do that, we're not all like that, I take people's feelings into consideration, and it makes nice guys like me look bad and have a bad rep overall!

Excuse the little rant, just needed to blow off some steam. They just need to have some patience if left with no other options.

[hybrid tendon]

No worries. I get your point

[hexed iris]

Oh, how agitated I was getting when I was expecting some new info on the mobile version with the unread messages here, only to be met with messages like that with those excuses.

I gotta get some sleep, 5 am does a number on emotions 💤

[lilac delta]

okay i need to say something about this, he demands the mobile app just for the mic alone cause he already have desktop mode vrchat, or if i'm wrong just the mic on the headset. but it is a COMMON know issue that the mic is currently the most broken feature of the mobile app so what are you going to gain? from no mic to a crappy mic? you have a switch, a ps5 and a pc, you are still able to have fun online with people, AND as others stated, a mic is cheap OR it's easy to use your phone as the mic for VRChat, so either DO our solutions or WAIT like the rest. ugh spoiled young people...

now stop complaining or i ask staff cause this was bugging me

sorry for the mini rant guys :c

[hybrid tendon]

Like I said, no worries

It's all up to them to decide what to do next

[lilac delta]

yes ^^

[light river]

I hate this

I have to wait until I get a refurbished headset

[naive bluff]

[half tapir]

Issue unfortunately still persists

Even after reinstall

[grand zenith]

Because this tablet kid won't shut up about the fact that his mic is broken, and typing is toooo hard. Here are some methods I've used to hook a phone up to my computer, as a mic in the past:

• https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/bluetooth-audio-receiver/9N9WCLWDQS5J?hl=en-US&gl=US

Used this for years with no issue.

• https://github.com/suda/wireless-microphone

Used this when I don't wanna install software.

[shut ocean]

Anyone else getting app crash/restart when rotating to landscape? Presently getting that when it was not the case before the update.

Notably any time, even when loaded it refreshes the app and then crashes.

[lusty hazel]

God... Audio just dying all the time has to be the most annoying thing about this entire beta 😅

[shut ocean]

It was pretty fine before the extra steps to load in. I honesly was fine with how it was before, since it matched the quest and pc versions.

[warm geyser]

I have a problem that I don't understand with the vrchat app on my phone when I try to connect I can't get further than this step

[half tapir]

Does it say wrong credentials?

[warm geyser]

no exactly everything is correct I even had a code request by email but it always comes back to this result

[half tapir]

Ah yeah i can't even get it to accept my login at all

[solar moth]

@warm geyser yeah because it says you need an vrc+ subscription in your account to access the game.

[narrow ferry]

Sad, it's compatible with my device

[naive bluff]

How is that sad?

[hybrid tendon]

Guess they had a typo

https://tenor.com/view/rezero-rem-laugh-laughing-anime-gif-25098531

[naive bluff]

Could be.

[lilac delta]

He thought he would be free.. but no vrchat took over his phone! Lol

[cloud quest]

Is there a way for me to see avatar statistics of the Android version (like download size, texture size, etc,) without actually having to be ingame of the Android version?

[misty root]

Does anyone else have a issue where its just loading? Cant join worlds, only get notfication telling me VRChat is still loading, please try again in a few seconds

Didnt have this problem before the new update

[naive bluff]

You're on a VPN with low signal, might be the cause.

[grand zenith]

I've seen it a handful of times, but often fixes itself next time I click the button.

[half tapir]

Really wondering why apparently there are only 2 people (me and someone else) that don't seem to be able to login

[shut ocean]

unsure if it is the new start page or what, but whenever a device screen rotation event occurs (either by user, or by app) the app seems to soft reset and crash. any one else getting this behaviour? S22 Ultra with 12GB/512GB. i did just uninstall though so likely not going to be installing again until the issue is fixed or they revert to what worked.

[balmy pilot]

i haven't noticed

[nova ravine]

Regarding this being free and open for everybody, what are the legitimate reasons as to why it's not fully ready to be released for

[grizzled coral]

It is quite buggy and VRC still has some more features to add going by it being an alpha (which means not feature complete).

[nova ravine]

Oh okay. I do hope that we get to see it by the end of this year like they said they wanted

[hybrid tendon]

On my S23+, the performance in a public instance was at worst, 6 FPS

[hybrid tendon]

Just to let you know that "just add me to every channel" is missing the Android Mobile section

(and VRCNYE2024 too)

[native igloo]

ah....

[naive bluff]

You can also enable this in the server dropdown menu.

[hybrid tendon]

I know, but not everyone know that so that means that 7 channels may be invisible for a lot of people

[dapper osprey]

So they claim you need 6gb of ram but I can load into a world with my phone that only has 4gb and move around and talk, but most of my screen is just black lol

[naive bluff]

Diiiiid you side-load it? 👀

[dapper osprey]

I can't figure out why a lack of ram would cause the screen to be black

Yeah I just installed the APK myself

[naive bluff]

That's why.

[dapper osprey]

Still doesn't make sense

[naive bluff]

Your phone ain't strong enough to run it, which is why Google Play tells you your phone isn't compatible.

[dapper osprey]

All the menus and everything are fine, it should run just with stuttering or low framerates

Unless theres some fundamental difference between Android and PC I'm not understanding

[naive bluff]

Other than architecture, yeah?

What it might be doing is borrowing virtual RAM from your storage to compensate for what it's lacking.

[dapper osprey]

Hmm, because once the world loads the screen kinda flashes and I can see through like a small portion of the corner of the screen and I can see I'm moving around and everything it's just that the rest of the screen is black

Maybe it's a GPU issue

Ayo I got something this time lol

Is there a way to load into a private instance on Android?

[naive bluff]

Errr... no?

Well, depends on what you mean by "private instance". Do you mean, like, can you join non-Public instances?

[dapper osprey]

Yeah like make my own

Like on pc

[naive bluff]

Then yes.

[dapper osprey]

It's so close to working, I got the menu open

[naive bluff]

It's effectively the same as Quest but on a phone.

[dapper osprey]

I've never used the quest version

Always been on pc

[dapper osprey]

Oh I see I had to load into a public then open the menu to create a private

I see

[hybrid tendon]

remember that 6 GB of ram is just a (recommended) system requirement, but technically you can play it on devices with 3 GB of ram and even get better performance if the SoC is more powerfull

[grand zenith]

Main issue is crashing, if the vrchat app crashes and reports back to the play store too often, it hurts vrchat.
But if you side load it and crash, it doesn't phone home.

[dapper osprey]

Ah ok

So for experimentations it's actually better to side load

I think my phone is having g issues with it's graphics drivers or some other kind of incompatibility with how the screen flashes and i get incomplete imagery

For reference I'm using a 2022 Motorola G Power

[amber crater]

how

[amber crater]

low end phone(?)

[dapper osprey]

How what

[amber crater]

to install the game on 4gb ram devices

[low lion]

what phone version can run the vrchat thing

[amber crater]

phone version?

[low lion]

yea

what kind of phone can run vrchat

thats in alpha rn

i know android but i need like versions of it

[amber crater]

The website says you need at least 6GB of RAM and Android 10 or higher

[low lion]

kk

android 10 or higher got it

[amber crater]

bruh

[low lion]

wut

[dapper axle]

https://www.sammyfans.com/2023/11/11/samsung-galaxy-s23-android-14-one-ui-6-0-canada-release-date-confirmed/

[naive bluff]

👀 Hello there?

[low lion]

so does anyone know how to load both your avatar and others on android

everyone is a fallback for me

[grand zenith]

Android can't load any avatar that is perf ranked at very poor

There is no force show avatar you can do on quest. This is intentional and will not change.

[low lion]

damn

[bronze marlin]

https://youtu.be/wNCLnFYW7Pk

Oh, I uploaded English subtitles. Will YouTube automatically switch according to the system language?

Hey, I suddenly discovered that the PICO version of VRChat can be installed directly into the mobile phone and used normally. VRChat Plus is not required. Unfortunately, the touch screen cannot be used and the viewing angle cannot be moved up and down.

[low lion]

so can mobile see videos in urls yet or no

[bronze marlin]

All restrictions are the same as the quest version

[river osprey]

Release with touch screen controller in it, I don't sure if somewhere have it if it might work well

[lilac delta]

Nice touch is this!

VRChat has this as a widget!

[hybrid tendon]

That's cool

[half tapir]

What does it do?

[lilac delta]

The rat took over lol

[lilac delta]

it's like the cat in game, talking to you and being funny, but now the rat took over so i guess 2 in 1

[heady sparrow]

I now want the widget to actlike the avatar preview as that would be neat

[brittle cypress]

Omg haha I think we were meaning to disable that widget before launching the native ui as it was more of a test. I'm glad it's there though. We're not removing it, haha.

Also hi I worked really hard on this app and I didn't realize we have an android channel here otherwise I would have been talking in here since forever ago. Sorry for the bugs we're working on it lol.

Also yes a dark mode is coming after the more important stuff gets done, heh.

[hybrid tendon]

Good to hear so far Squid

[half tapir]

you made new UI? i got the issue that since then it refuses to accept my login credentials for some reason

[brittle cypress]

Yep! Aware! It's a bug with how the password is interpreted. It's on my radar hopefully this week.

Hardest part of figuring out what causes it is that you can't really go around asking what the bad password was to repro, so had to find the repro the more tedious way, heh.

[half tapir]

well, i can say that mine is pretty much just a long randomly generated one with all kinds of characters from a password manager

[brittle cypress]

yep, that's been the theme so far. will be fixed hopefully in the next app release, but if not the release after.

app releases aren't in sync with the normal game client.

[half tapir]

yeah that i noticed

[brittle cypress]

The app has a lot of issues, but I think it went a smoothly as it could have for a first alpha release, heh. Hoping to polish it up quite a bit over the next little while!

[lilac delta]

Yay! But i am glad ^^

[naive bluff]

Heyo Squiddy!

[lusty hazel]

Huh weird, mine is also like that but it works 😅

[lusty hazel]

I'm taking care of VRCat with my partner now

[opal needle]

VRCat on the home screen damn might get an android phone now

[lusty hazel]

VRRat stole my child :c

[lusty hazel]

what type of messages can it display btw?

One (actually usefull) widgit that I think would be nice would be one for seeing how many Friends etc are online

(the API would probably not like that though xD)

[brittle cypress]

Maybe someday. This widget is just gonna sit here for a while though as it was more of a test widget done during one of our jam weeks. I wanna do widgets, but not in the cards atm given how much actual app needs to get done.

[lusty hazel]

Yeah makes sense ^^

[light wind]

Hmm, I only have the cat

[half tapir]

Could just refresh it like every hour or something

[lusty hazel]

Just wait

[light wind]

I mean it handles vrcx load just fine

[lime rose]

That's actually exactly what it does right now mixed in with flavor text, I did not expect those widgets to make it all the way to the app from jam week. And yea refreshes only once per hour to keep API usage in check.

[lusty hazel]

I always just get VRCat or VRRat

[lilac delta]

I love this widget lol glad that i discovered it and please don't remove it xD

;-;

[boreal moss]

Um, it keeps sending me the same code

every time it says it's invalid?

🤣

...

It's not fun anymore

[brittle cypress]

Heya! Mobile auth is borked right now, you're not crazy! We're working on fixing it right now!

[boreal moss]

Sounds good!

[brittle cypress]

Should be fixed now!

[boreal moss]

It is, thank you.

[boreal moss]

Also, is it intended behaviour that I can have two photon sessions with single account?

I am logged on both on my phone and PC at the same time, neither of them get kicked out.

[brittle cypress]

yep! just can't be in the same instance.

only time you can be in the same instance on different sessions is when local testing a world on PC

[boreal moss]

Oh that's cool.

[hybrid tendon]

I gotta try it

[lusty hazel]

I feel like the API is going to be very confused about what tf you are doing 😅

IIRC I have seen people doing that before with Quest and they started to have a Quest badge on their nameplate for others in their PC instance

[brittle cypress]

Honestly the API should just handle that better for what issues still exist. Not encouraging people to take advantage of a feature that exists feels like it wouldn't really solve anything.

We let ya be logged in multiple times at once, so anywhere that isn't handled correctly is more on us.

Not that I want to open that can of worms, but I guess that's my view on the whole thing.

[nova ravine]

I'm still jealous

[sharp thicket]

How?

[lilac delta]

idk it just changed from time to time lol

[hybrid tendon]

Myself included

It prevents me from going to PC only worlds, while I was in PCVR

PC only avatars still can be used PC though

[lusty hazel]

I so far have only ever gotten the Meow one and the one where VRRat takes over

[brittle cypress]

meow

Widgets are hard though. When/if we get around to them it's gonna be a task. Since they have some pretty strict rules.

[lusty hazel]

from what I know you can still do more with them on Android than you can on IOS

god... I can imagine that getting all of this to work on IOS will be fun...

[half tapir]

Can just leave certain features out

[boreal moss]

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/widgetkit they have whole SDK for it... With extensive documentation.

Shouldn't be any harder than in Android. Granted I only made widget things for MacOS but it should be same process for iOS it is pretty Universal.

But as far iOS goes, they have barely any freedom lmao

[karmic trail]

I have a question. I got VR chat+ a month ago and I was using the android build. What happens when my subscription expires and I cancelled it. Would I be locked out of the android version?

[naive bluff]

The alpha period, yes.

[boreal moss]

xD

The new UI atm is so broken

I'm not sure how it's made but if it's made in Unity... Please just make Native UI and then make a different activity to start the native game client 🫠

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/UnityasaLibrary-Android.html

🤫

[brittle cypress]

Nope! We're keeping it all single activity. It's already native and not built in Unity. The bugs you're seeing are exclusive to some recent Samsung devices. Working on fixing!

If you could tell me the device and android version that would be super useful!

[boreal moss]

I have Xiaomi Lite 5G NE running Lineage OS 20.0* (Android 13; Latest build lineage-20.0-20231114-nightly)

[brittle cypress]

Ahh, got it. That helps a lot. Thanks. This is my first time seeing the thumbnails zoomed like that. So maybe a new Xiaomi exclusive bug. But the play button being behind the tab bar is an issue on Samsung devices as well. So that one should resolve for you when we fix that.

We're working on getting more test devices, but not all phone manufacturer's versions of Android are made equal and it results in lots of fun bugs exclusive to specific manufacturers.

[boreal moss]

Well Yeah, Lineage should match the AOSP tree except of course the fixes they keep adding. Which makes me question whenever is it actually Vendor specific.

[brittle cypress]

For reference, my primary test device is a Pixel right now.

[boreal moss]

What were the devices reported to have this issue? (Specific models)

[brittle cypress]

You're the first the report the thumbnail issue. As for the play button being behind the bar, we've only seen that on the Galaxy S20, S21, and S22 so far.

It does not happen on Galaxy fold phones however.

[boreal moss]

To reproduce:

1. open VRChat Mobile in portrait mode
2. Switch to landscape mode
3. go back to portrait mode
4. vola, you got broken images!

[brittle cypress]

This doesn't repro it on a Pixel.

[boreal moss]

Well, yeah. It doesn't happen everytime.

[brittle cypress]

We haven't seen this bug in the 7 months the app has been in dev. So we may need to install lineage on a phone at some point to repro unfortunately.

Will get around to it eventually though!

[boreal moss]

👌

[brittle cypress]

Unfortunately alternative OS's like Graphene and Lineage are somewhat second class citizens to bug fixes at the moment due to existing issues with OEM android versions being higher prio. But we'll get to them eventually. A lot of the fixes for OEM android versions (such as the Samsung ones) should still help with some bugs though.

[boreal moss]

It is understandable, and I am not worried about such whatsoever. It was my own decision to use it and I just gotta deal with it :P but yeah this bug itself rarely happens and if it does, I can just restart :D

[brittle cypress]

It's actually a bug that you even can rotate. So if rotating causes it on lineage, then the next patch may fix this for you!

[boreal moss]

You call it a bug...

I thought it was feature LMAO

[brittle cypress]

Heh, the UI was never designed to be horizontal, but a bug was still leaving the rotation unlocked for a short period of time when starting the app. This is gone in the next patch.

You can still rotate when in the game client, so will be curious to see if it still happens if you rotate in the game client then back out to the native UI. But either way, the effect should be lessened at a minimum.

[boreal moss]

Sounds good, also are there plans to make the loading of the game client manual? I am not a fan of it launching at the exact same time in the background when just using the UI since I may find it useful to see who's online and whatnot. While not using much system resources.

Or is this yet another of these bugs?

[brittle cypress]

Not at the moment. Maybe in the future. But as it is it doesn't use much. I think the real solution is to more so work on background resource usage. But as it is now it doesn't do much when it sits in the background so it shouldn't be very resource intensive.

[boreal moss]

Understandable, sounds great! But hey. Thanks for your time. I appreciate the open feedback and I shall inform you whenever the new version fixes the issues! If you still remember me then, feel free to even ping me here to remind me to test it 🙂

[brittle cypress]

For sure! Thank you for testing the app!

[lusty hazel]

weird, I don't have that issue on my S9+ (running Android 10) or my Tab S7+ (running Android 13)

[lusty hazel]

urgh this is a bit annoying on Tablets

and probably also on fordable devices since they tend to have more of a square inside screen

[brittle cypress]

Yep, it's not reproing on my S9 either. It's more recent devices only.

[lusty hazel]

huh, weird issue

[brittle cypress]

blame every version of android having it's own fun small quirks.

[lusty hazel]

[lilac delta]

i noticed a weird 'bug' on my fold 4 when i am playing in game and i rotate my device it yeets me back to the vrchat mobile 'hub' thingy and i got to re open the 'game'

bit annying but expected from alpha builds

[boreal ermine]

Why are there no official updates to this? No Discord pings or anything

[nova ravine]

Has anybody tried a controller on VR chat on Android?

[brittle cypress]

Because there hasn't really been much of a need for them until recent. Up until our new UI, the mobile builds were pretty much the same as the existing client, and patches were included with the normal client. We've only had one update with new systems like the new UI so we just don't have anything established yet.

[hybrid tendon]

What about the widget? :>

[gusty snow]

Suggestion about friends section -> by location.
Wouldn't it better to show (total user count)/(world capacity) for instances instead of (friends count)/(world capacity)?

To clarify I mean these numbers:

[astral tusk]

Has anyone come across an issue where they can't see someone's quest avatar, until you yourself switch into it and then the person's avatar shows up as well. Upon relog its back to fallback. The avatar in question is poor, and works on android. This bug doesn't seem to hapen on pico version

[brittle cypress]

Def a thing on the radar already. All the implementations of pretty much everything are in their simplest implementation at the moment due to time constraints. Will be re-visiting that at some point and making that change.

[lilac delta]

questing, you said you are testing this app on a google pixel device right? What device is it? Just a stupid question of mine lol

[brittle cypress]

Pixel 7a

[lilac delta]

Thanks!

[brittle cypress]

ye

[hybrid tendon]

I have a question

Will vr chat ever be available on like older moldes of phones i have newish old phone and it only has 5g

[naive bluff]

#android-announcements

5G has no real effect on the requirements, it's how powerful the thing is.

[hybrid tendon]

Dangg

My phone js rlly laggy ngl so thats probably why i cant get it

[naive bluff]

And seeing how VRC is already a pretty demanding game on PCs... you need a somewhat-powerful phone to run the mobile app too.

I derped that.

[hybrid tendon]

dang yeah also btw rlly love the pfp

[brittle cypress]

The only real hard requirement is 6gb of ram atm. If your phone has that then it likely also has a CPU that's capable. But that's not really a hard stat and more of a loose guide. Milage may vary for any device, but pretty much most flagship devices from the last 3-4 years tend to be capable.

newer ones being more capable more frequently than older ones within that spectrum obviously.

[distant canyon]

I have a Galaxy A53 and it ran the game fine.

[violet sequoia]

J tried vrchat mobile on my pixel 4 and at least on small worlds it runs great. I have experienced lots of crashes though but that could also be just because my phone is old.

[violet sequoia]

On big worlds it's terrible though

[half bay]

i don't have a phone good enough to get vrchat mobile

[late sparrow]

are you getting it on a chrome book?

[half tapir]

Probably doesn't get displayed on the phone for them but on pc it does

[vocal nimbus]

How well is VR chat running on the Galaxy s23? I'm going to try it later myself but I wondered if anyone could share their recent thoughts on it with me.

[lusty hazel]

should be pretty decent

Probably one of the phones with the best performance xD

[spiral prairie]

I use it on a Flip 5, which has the same processor and RAM, and it works beautifully. s23 should too.

[spiral prairie]

I can run it on my Pixelbook Go and my HP Dragonfly chromebooks, and it runs well. Those are higher-end ones though. The Dragonfly is now retroactively a Chromebook Plus.

[hybrid tendon]

This, but don't expect high FPS in public lobbies though

[hybrid tendon]

FYI

[edgy pumice]

hear me out
a one time pay wall for the VR chat app when it gets released to the public, like a dollar. it'll keep so many kids, of all ages, from getting access to VR chat, because they wanna be in a youtube video

[naive bluff]

👀 What's to stop them from using their parent's card?

[lilac delta]

Or hear me out.. in app purchases!

[half tapir]

lol google rewards exists too. I pay with money from google most of the time

[boreal ermine]

Even recently, there isn't any update pings in the Discord server

[brittle cypress]

The last update ping was in #announcements on Friday

[boreal ermine]

Not for android

[brittle cypress]

There hasn't been any updates to the app's native UI then. If there were updates to the app, it's just updating to the current client version.

Just checked, the last app update was on Nov 9th in my timezone, which I think was just an update to the latest client version. no actual app changes.

[edgy pumice]

So
How do I play in landscape mode?
Cause it won't get out of portrait

[brittle cypress]

Are you using Graphene or an alternative andorid OS to the one your phone shipped with by chance? That's a known bug that we've only seen on Graphene so far.

if not, knowing the phone model and android version would be imensley helpful!

[shut ocean]

S22 Ultra is within margin of error of the S23 in most fronts, runs 120 FPS in 1's Optimized Box, 48FPS cap is advised though.

[shut ocean]

it is happening on OneUI as well where the app resets on rotation, auto or otherwise. i was encountering it as well. S22 Ultra 12GB RAM/512GB ROM

OneUI 5.1/Android 13, to be exact.

[brittle cypress]

That should be fixed in the next patch. Local moth is referring to the app being totally locked in portrait, not able to rotate, even when in the client.

Or at least I assume that's what they're referring to.

The bug with app rotation when the app first boots up has been fixed locally and is just pending a patch to go out!

[shut ocean]

gotcha. might reinstall once that patch goes live to see, though not too pleased with a blinding entry page.

[brittle cypress]

if it's resetting for some other reason then I'm not sure. I just tested to be extra sure, and yeah, rotation looks fine for me on my OneUI 5.1/Android 13 device. So if it's not fixed then there is another factor at play.

[shut ocean]

i doubt it is anything system related, other than maybe the app not liking being forced to refresh rates not 60/120? i use a 3rd party service (GalaxyHzMax) to set the game to 48-96Hz for battery reasons instead of the default 60-120 like normal. odd it is happening unless something was changed, since the quest technically does something similar, but system-side. (hench why some people notice scaling battery life with FPS)

the issue is also happening on my OneUI 5.1.1 tablet, Tab S7 6/128GB. that doesn't have hte service enabled.

[brittle cypress]

actually yeah, I just tested the current live build on the play store without the rotation fixes and it's still working fine for me. no app resets. so I'm unsure. may need more data.

[shut ocean]

maybe. test device?

[brittle cypress]

Pixel 7a, Galaxy S21, Galaxy Fold 3, Galaxy S9. All don't reset on rotation.

[shut ocean]

gotcha, must be a app to driver issue for the SD8G1 chips then. S21 uses i think the SDM855S, same with the Fold 3? i haven't tested on my S9+ since making it solely a tracker, but might yoink that out of its horrid harness and give it a run.

as for why it's happening on my tablet, might just be something in a recent patch thati need to repair apps for.

[brittle cypress]

I doubt the chips would have anything to do with it. It's an OS level call.

[shut ocean]

hence driver

[edgy pumice]

I'm using the galaxy zfold 4

Idk much about the internals and stuff-

[brittle cypress]

no worries. thanks! and are you trying to rotate while in the mobile interface, or when in the VRChat game client?

[edgy pumice]

I think the client-

[brittle cypress]

hmm, alright. and you're 100% sure rotations are unlocked? we have a tester with a fold 4 and I haven't heard of this yet. so I'll be poking them when they're back in.

[edgy pumice]

In terms of on my phone, rotations are unlocked

It'd rotate when I opened my menu but when I closed it, it'd just pop back to normal

[brittle cypress]

ahhh, that's super helpful actually. thank you!

[dusk needle]

Uhm checking in, do i still need vr chat+ to play on mobile?

[half tapir]

Yes

[dusk needle]

When will it not?

[lusty hazel]

Once it's out of Alpha

[dusk needle]

And... when is that?

[worn drum]

no eta, be patient

[lilac delta]

sigh sub the vrchat youtube channel, the day it's live your sub box will have a video

[verbal pivot]

audio stutters fixed or not?

[grim night]

I understand the desperation 💔

[hexed iris]

At least that gives me time to update my remaining 19 avatars for mobile use.

[low rover]

bro im gonna dump this app off of my phone to install it on my quest 2 lol

[naive bluff]

Okay...?

[low rover]

i am THAT bored lol

[lilac delta]

Oookkkkkaaayyy..

[grand zenith]

[warm laurel]

Any chance the alpha could at least be opened to creators? I wanna make my avatars quest compatible but I don't have a Quest to test on. Lol

[naive bluff]

👀 Get VRC+ and you can have all the access you want.

[lilac delta]

I love the begging they do lol, it's not that good xD

Get VRC+ for everything not just this app. Simple right?

[naive bluff]

I mean, it is an alpha...

It still has a ton of work to do.

Also, not sure what you mean by "begging".

[bleak pebble]

Vrc is not working for me nomore since a while on mobile it allways says VRchat is still loading

[naive bluff]

Stuck in the green void?

[brittle cypress]

Check the app's permissions. There is a bug that if you've denied it mic or storage permissions it won't load the client properly. A fix is underway but likely not going to be in the next release.

If you're on android 13 or later, just mic permissions.

This is the part where I apologize for all the weird bugs, heh, but so it goes when building something this complicated.

[bleak pebble]

I tried that, still doesnt works :s

[brittle cypress]

how long have you waited? it can take a little while for it to fully load.

changes depending on the device, but usually no more than 30-40 seconds.

we hope to reduce that though.

[bleak pebble]

Oh actually worked, thank you :)

[brittle cypress]

wahoo!

yeah the bug causing it to not load at all from the permissions is caused by some leftover code from when that stuff was handled by the client without the new native layer. Introducing this app on top of the client has brought in some fun new bugs to squish. A lot will be fixed and added in the next patch, but the bug stomping never truly ends, heh.

[dark sleet]

Yooo creator economy is out rn

[analog lodge]

Can someone remaind what build and patch notes are active now to mobile beta?

[naive bluff]

alpha*

[indigo cobalt]

i wish i could use the app but my phone is a lg stylo

[naive bluff]

You need a more powerful phone, I'm afraid.

[indigo cobalt]

But it is powerful

I've played tons of VR games on my phone

[naive bluff]

It only has 4GB of RAM.

6 is the recommended minimum.

[indigo cobalt]

Darn

I can't afford a new phone rn

[naive bluff]

Sorry.

[indigo cobalt]

It's ok

[old garden]

Hi just saw this !

« Improved shader features like a better Shader Fallback 9 (https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/shader-fallback-system/) system, improvements to the “Standard Lite” shader, and a brand-new
“Supersampled UI” shader intended for high quality mobile UIs »

Is this mobile oriented or just for PC ?

[grand zenith]

Mostly yes, but also applies to any platform as those shades work on all.

[iron apex]

Yo I just saw mobile got roblox UI, how the heck do I join my home world and play it like traditional VRC?

Every time I click join to any world the app says it hasnt finished loading and it wont even let me make a private instance

[bright dove]

Is that related to "W gralloc4: Unable to set buffer name SurfaceView[com.vrchat.mobile.playstore/com.vrchat.app.MainActivity]#1(BLAST Consumer)1: File name too long" ? Seems to be what I get in the ADB logs, as well as something about "Unable to open '/data/app/<snip>/com.vrchat.mobile.playstore-<snip>/split_UnityDataAssetPack.dm': No such file or directory" and missing split_config.arm64_v8a.dm

Also these entries, if it helps:

11-23 22:31:48.212 10449 10449 W obile.playstore: type=1400 audit(0.0:30721): avc: denied { execmod } for path="/data/app/<snip>/com.vrchat.mobile.playstore-<snip>/lib/arm64/libloader.so" dev="dm-52" ino=405419 scontext=u:r:untrusted_app_32:s0:c222,c257,c512,c768 tcontext=u:object_r:apk_data_file:s0 tclass=file permissive=0 app=com.vrchat.mobile.playstore
11-23 22:31:48.432 10449 10449 W obile.playstore: type=1400 audit(0.0:30722): avc: denied { execmod } for path="/apex/com.android.runtime/lib64/bionic/libdl.so" dev="loop11" ino=43 scontext=u:r:untrusted_app_32:s0:c222,c257,c512,c768 tcontext=u:object_r:system_lib_file:s0 tclass=file permissive=0 app=com.vrchat.mobile.playstore
11-23 22:31:48.588 10449 10449 W obile.playstore: type=1400 audit(0.0:30723): avc: denied { execmod } for path="/apex/com.android.runtime/lib64/bionic/libdl.so" dev="loop11" ino=43 scontext=u:r:untrusted_app_32:s0:c222,c257,c512,c768 tcontext=u:object_r:system_lib_file:s0 tclass=file permissive=0 app=com.vrchat.mobile.playstore

[muted kayak]

Yup I was expecting that

[lilac delta]

Omg lol

[shut ocean]

trying to play on hte Watch 5? :LUL:

[hexed cloud]

Any reason why VRChat says "Loading" for ages..? I've checked permissions, reinstalled it. Cleared cache. Nothing

Running on Android 14 if that helps

[hybrid tendon]

its not compatible with android 14 yet, just got a message when i started the app saying its not compatible and it might not work

we have to wait for now ig

[hexed cloud]

It worked last time?

And even after the new interface

Also btw i noticed that music gets paused when opening the app

[boreal ermine]

I got VRC+

And I'm having problems with logging in

I put my email and password in their respective spots

And it says "Incorrect Username or Password"

[naive bluff]

..... Why did you put your password in the email field?

[boreal ermine]

XD

🤣

[boreal ermine]

I changed it

[boreal ermine]

Anyways, it still said that the email or password was incorrect

Even when I copy/pasted it from my browser where I have it saved

[naive bluff]

Put your email in the email field, your password in the password field.

[boreal ermine]

I DID that

[naive bluff]

You just said you put your password in the email field.

[boreal ermine]

XD I know I did. But I meant that I put the email and the password in their respective spots

Just no more joking around

Be serious with me, what should I do?

I put my email and password in correctly

But it still said that the email/password were incorrect

Are the servers down for the android build????

[vale edge]

Same. Within the last few days the game just stopped loading despite no updates to anything on my end. Just went to open it one day and haven't been able to use it since. I'm on stock A13 but the issue is the same. Mic perms are granted. Uninstall, reinstall, clear cache, log out, reboot phone, etc. It worked fine then suddenly at some point in the last few days, the loading icon never stops loading. Everything in the background loads fine but it wont let me join worlds.

[half tapir]

nah its a bug

you cannot login if you are affected

[boreal ermine]

Well... Is there a way around the bug?

[clear coral]

I can't log in to vrchat mobile help? It's the only reason I got vrchat plus and it stopped loading I tried everything deleted and reinstalled. Cleared the cache and data. Everything and it stays forever loading

It ran smoothly b4 but idk why it just stopped one day hopefully this gets updated

[naive bluff]

Did you download it normally or sideloaded?

[vale edge]

This seems to be a bug introduced with the new TOS update. The new launcher doesn't have a way of displaying this to you. You will endlessly load.

I'm traveling so I wasn't able to launch the game on desktop or quest to accept the new agreement so I rolled back my apk to 2023.3.3 which has the original launcher and the agreement popped up. I accepted it, then uninstalled, and installed the newest version from the app store and it immediately worked.

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-alpha/p/new-launcher-endless-loading-from-tos-update

[naive bluff]

Welcome back (apparently).

[vale edge]

Had to see if anyone fixed that annoying issue. See a few posts about it but least I figured it out and why it only affected a few people since most probably accepted the agreement on desktop and few are only using the mobile apk right now.

Wasn't able to play since they pushed the new agreement but I had no idea they pushed a new agreement since the new launcher apparently can't show it lol. Glad I can play again

[half tapir]

not that i would know of, but i dont have vrc+ anymore so cant test

[vale edge]

See my post #android-discussion message

May fix your issue if you haven't accepted the newest agreement yet.

[clear coral]

How to roll back apk?

Nvm I figured it out it worked tho thank you so much! @vale edge

[vale edge]

Nice, glad ya got it.

[hexed cloud]

yep fixed it tysm! Yea i haven't launched VRChat in a bit so thats why

[split nymph]

How do you merge a vrchat account with a steam account?

When you're using the PC version

[naive bluff]

Make a new account > log into the game with your Steam account > open big menu > upgrade account > copy-paste the token on the website.

[rain vault]

Are we gonna get a dark theme setting for the app home screen?

[split nymph]

Another question,
Can you buy vrchat plus using steam wallet balance instead of a credit card?

[naive bluff]

Yes? That's how it's done with Steam.

[split nymph]

Alright then!
That answers my questions!

Thxs for helping me and I plan on seeing ya in game!

[boreal ermine]

Could someone help me with a way to log in? I'm unable to do so. every time I try logging in, it says "Incorrect Email/Password"

I have rolled back my VRC build

And it let me in.

It didn't connect to a world though -_-

I updated my VRC build and it's still saying "Incorrect Username/Password"

[nova ravine]

free yet or nah

[boreal ermine]

no it's not

[nova ravine]

Fug

[naive bluff]

Heck.

[static wing]

Is it fixed yet

[naive bluff]

No?

Last I checked, it's still Sunday.

[static wing]

😭

[naive bluff]

Have some patience.

If you're having the "nothing shows up" issue, MERC posted how to bypass this.

[static wing]

No it’s doesn’t stop loading

@naive bluff

[naive bluff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vale edge]

#android-discussion message

See this post, I explain how to get around the issue.

[static wing]

Now do I do that tho

[vale edge]

Idk what the "nothing shows up" issue is lol. I had the endless loading despite all perms issue :p

[naive bluff]

That's how I interpreted it.

[rain vault]

Random game crashes on mobile.. just the entire app freezing. Anyone else getting this too?

[naive bluff]

What phone?

[hybrid tendon]

... any android phone there is (not apple yet)

[naive bluff]

👀 That doesn't answer my question in the slightest.

[hybrid tendon]

Not all Android phones are supported by VRChat mobile app, just so you know

[naive bluff]

^

[lilac delta]

Meanwhile me playing vrchat on my pixel watch with a rtx 4090 e-gpu (jk)

[nocturne meteor]

Quick question.

So I have VRChat+ and VRChat Mobile, but when I try to login it keeps saying that I need VRChat+ even tho I have it.

Is there any reason behind that?

[naive bluff]

Are you logging into the right account?

[analog lodge]

Has anyone tested vrc mobile performance on android 13 vs 14?

[lilac delta]

if samsung would finally release it on my fold 4 i would since i use the app a lot xD

[rain vault]

S23 ultra, sorry

[analog lodge]

I got oneplus 11 still android 13 but 14 should come soon

[naive bluff]

Ayyy. 10 Pro here.

[analog lodge]

I assume vrc mobile is still 60fps locked

Havent gotten fps to go over 60

[rain vault]

Just crashed again, fun

[hybrid tendon]

So I got a tablet recently and was considering the idea of it making for a good device to receive and stream a video feed of vrchat, essentially to do mocap stuff, but vrchat apparently isn't compatible with the particular tablet I got.

I'm a bit dumbfounded by that because I know it's a plenty powerful tablet. Tablet in question is a Galaxy Tab S6 Lite, so it's got enough horsepower to do it. Only thing I can think of is that it's not meant to run at the resolution of my device? Which is JANK because I've got a Galaxy Z Fold 5 that has no qualms with running it at its wack double wide screen mode lol

Maybe the issue is just that the open Beta is picky? I'm wondering if there's any available information on how support will scale to more and more devices over time 🙂

[hardy garden]

So I'm a bit confused, you want to play VRChat on that? If so, it's not compatible. From a quick google search it's only got 4GB of ram. You need 6+

[hybrid tendon]

jesus christ. a mobile app needing 6 gb in 2023 is a bad sign

ugh 🤦‍♂️

[hardy garden]

lol most computers have 8. Gaming computers have 24 accounting for both system and Vram.

[hybrid tendon]

alright well never mind then

no in PC gaming it's fine, i get it. i have 32.

but my god, technology is making developers lazy imo.

[hardy garden]

I mean, it's not like they haven't been trying to sqeeze every drop out of the quest since it was able to. It's just not enough for an OS and a ram intensive game like VRC

[hybrid tendon]

yeah but i'm trying to have a teeny tiny green cube world to use as a green screen, and a single user on the screen.

like i get that because of the general usage, it's set to be a 6gb app, but in practice what i'm doing would never need that much and i absolutely could get away with it

[pearl mulch]

It's a 3D application with user generated content

[hybrid tendon]

you're a bit behind on the convo rn man

[hardy garden]

Wait, your just using the tablet to capture video?

[hybrid tendon]

well, what i need is the vrchat user to be in the world, the world is basically just a neon green cube so i can take the video feed and output it.

then post process it from there. i can think of workarounds, but i still wanted to have the option

[hardy garden]

Just record from your computer then..?

[hybrid tendon]

well i'm not gonna just carry a whole ass pc around under the basis that i might see an opportunity for an AR project

[hardy garden]

Ah. I see. Yea, that's a specific use case.

[hybrid tendon]

gaming file sizes and demands in 2023 bother the piss out of me though. like im talking, in the 90s and 2000s, developers were so good at fitting games onto the gameboy that they were able to fit a whole other game onto the same card.

and in 2023, cod eats over 200GB, and mobile apps need 6gm of ram.

[hardy garden]

Well like RAIN said. It's because most people making the content, aren't professionals

[hybrid tendon]

that sucks, because i'm not a professional, but i know what i'm doing and how to keep a single world with a single FBT user and a single avatar optimized enough

it would run. if i were some l33t haxor that could brute force it to do it, it would absolutely do it

[hardy garden]

Just comes with the territory of what this platform is. Many games have tried this sort of thing, and in the end, your performance is at the mercy of the least optimized creators creations.

[hybrid tendon]

understandable, although in my tablet's case, since it would literally be solely a node for lack of better terms, it's literally at my mercy alone lol

there's always the possibility to just receive a discord screenshare and process that, but that's gonnna add more moving pieces that can fail.

i've got solutions, and maybe somee day if i see a tab 7 or newer selling cheap or second hand, i'll jump on one. i'll live, just a bummer

[pearl mulch]

Most of the people on vrc are developing content with PC specs in mind

[hybrid tendon]

vrchat itself def could run on 4gb, but then again, we live in a world with avtars by godfall so out the window goes that dream

[hardy garden]

I think you mean PC specs from the year 2030

[pearl mulch]

2 gb are like taken by the OS on the quest so no

[hybrid tendon]

i'd argue they're actually developing content with NASA supercomputers in mind, have you SEEN the amount of phys, lighting, poly, and texture res on these things???

[hybrid tendon]

i'm not talking about quest os....

[pearl mulch]

The quest is running Android

[hybrid tendon]

but i'm not talking about quest.

[pearl mulch]

I'm trying to say they literally have the same OS your tablet and the quest

[hybrid tendon]

not to be a d*ck, but it bothers me when people don't even actually read the relevant details of a conversation...

[hardy garden]

Avatar with 120 Materials and 8k Textures. Because they want it to "look good"

[hybrid tendon]

okay and a quest OS obviously eats more RAM because it's custom and has to do more than a tablet alone

i know they're based on the same basic OS platform, but they are not the same thing

it's not an issue worth fighting over, man. i'm bummed but i'll live. another day i'll come up with something to mitigate it, but it's fine for now.

[lilac delta]

the main reason they make 6GB of ram the standard is because that's the ram amount of the quest 2. lower ram = quest 1 and we don't want to do that again lol

[lusty hazel]

Kinda sad about losing landscape mode for the Native UI soon

Especially for a mobile game

Cause most things worked fine, it's just the profile UI that was kinda broken

[cedar tulip]

Gonna sound like an ass here but AS soon as me and a lot of other Avatar creators (The decent ones that make stuff for Quest and PC), seen the phone ver of VRC was going to come out...We pretty much said we weren't going to make content for it....This includes when apples app comes out for vrc.

[vale edge]

Quest content is content for it, unless you're purely meaning making poor or better rated avatars.

[cedar tulip]

Which can be annoying to do. Plus people will still lag regardless on Android phones vs a quest

[grand zenith]

Don't gotta drag all the avi creators down just because you're bad at optimization.

[cedar tulip]

LOL Im not. You want to waste your time for phone users then go for it.

[grand zenith]

Or I can just avatars that are not very poor

It's okay, you can just rely on imposters

[cedar tulip]

Good luck on that. I'd rather just not waste my time on that lol.

[grand zenith]

It's a one button click to make an imposter

[cedar tulip]

I meant for the like good/green light xD for the models I use.

Not sure what all it would even take from my models on imposter o.o;

[grand zenith]

[boreal moss]

Question: when will the Mobile version be synced with the latest main release of the game?

[naive bluff]

Probably when it exits Alpha.

[worthy gust]

ssomeone knoww how can i disable clock?

[native igloo]

no way
(I don't think there is way)

[naive bluff]

On... your phone...?

[worthy gust]

i see, it's sad

[naive bluff]

No, am asking if that's what you mean.

[worthy gust]

i mean on vrc by phone or by computer

now we can know the approximate loocation of every streamer who use vrc

[naive bluff]

Streamers used stuff like OVR Toolkit anyway.

That shit tells the time.

[orchid owl]

Question is android version free yet

[heady sparrow]

no

[orchid owl]

Oof

I feel like it's an attempt to fill there pockets 😕

[heady sparrow]

idk how morningstar cant afford a vr headset or pc when he owns a whole ass club

[orchid owl]

Lol i never said i didn't own one

I just think its scummy practice to put android behind a paywall

[heady sparrow]

android isnt even remotely close to being a finished version

its not even up to date with the current vrchat

[orchid owl]

Exactly

[heady sparrow]

this is for getting feedback rn

[orchid owl]

Yet they want you to pay for a subscription to use it

[heady sparrow]

yet they want vrc+ members to test it

[orchid owl]

I don't find the subscription worth it just to play android

[heady sparrow]

its not just to play android

they just want vrc+ users to test it

considering its an opt in thing on the playstore I can see them wanting not everyone to just spam the opt in

[orchid owl]

It's limiting us from using it, if they want feedback make a app that you can download from here

Not the playstores

[naive bluff]

The app is currently in Alpha testing. 👀

It's not ready for the public yet.

[orchid owl]

I know but in that case people should be able to play free

[heady sparrow]

you use the playstore to download it
they arent just going to send an apk here and say "you should run it"

[orchid owl]

And why wouldn't they

[heady sparrow]

it will be made free after its out of alpha testing

[orchid owl]

Other companies do it for instance minecraft

[naive bluff]

Even if it were free, your phone needs to be supported.

[orchid owl]

I know

Thats why it should also be free to try

[heady sparrow]

they would rather have people actually testing and giving feedback and not
waaaaaaa why wont my phone run it

[orchid owl]

No i just feel they are doing it for the money just like twitter makes you pay for a checkmark

[heady sparrow]

they arent

because vrc+ was already there offering other stuff

[orchid owl]

Yes however vrc+ doesn't have much to offer

[heady sparrow]

you shouldnt be buying vrc+ just for the android test

there are other reasons for it

[orchid owl]

Like?

Sadly i miss my avatars that i was able to use that's one reason i stopped paying for the android and why i quit playing the quest version

Because they made very poor avatars no longer usable

[heady sparrow]

for android specifically

you can still use very poor on quest

[orchid owl]

No if i remember correctly they took that away for meta quest 2 too

[heady sparrow]

no because I can still use them

for others you just have to force show like always

[orchid owl]

Ok

[naive bluff]

Not yet.

[orchid owl]

Ok but do they plan to?

[naive bluff]

On Quest? Eventually. Not right now though.

[orchid owl]

Ok

[half tapir]

Prepare for Quest-apocalypse eventually

[heady sparrow]

prepare for so many quest kids screaming about it

the adults will complain but holy with the kids scream

[static wing]

The forever load😭😭😭

When are the ganna fix this😭😭

[vale edge]

See this comment:
#android-discussion message

[static wing]

That works?

[vale edge]

Yes. As they also noted on the canny, it will also be fixed next update of the app.

[static wing]

When’s next update

[pearl mulch]

next year

[vale edge]

Who knows. So you can either try installing an older version of the apk to accept the terms or wait lol

[static wing]

Where do I download it

@vale edge how do I download the apk thing

[vale edge]

Some things you need to do for yourself.

https://gprivate.com/684jb

[static wing]

😭

Thank u

[naive bluff]

.....?

[static wing]

Wrong ss

[naive bluff]

[static wing]

The apk didn’t work

I’ve given up

[grand zenith]

Man, this is a while new level of point the phone at the screen, mans pointing a phone at a phone

[muted kayak]

Well that's why imposters are coming

[heady sparrow]

imposters are here

[muted kayak]

oh yeah I didn't saw that it was released in live 💀

but imposter generation is still manual (and not automatic), so they aren't as wide-spread as when they will be automaticly generated

Btw, it's been a pretty long I didn't heard anything about the Android version and I have a question :
does the microphone stuttering when low FPS bug got fixed or not ?

[brittle cypress]

👁️

Sorry for that bug! It was an unintended blocker that we overlooked due to how infrequently the TOS and Privacy Policy changes.

The Android release has not been delayed out of the projected range we've given in the past though. Still targeting this year until we say otherwise!

[pearl mulch]

good to know I was just going off the assumption that the last announcement said it was the last update of the year

[brittle cypress]

The VRChat client and android app are gonna have their own updates and release cycles since under the hood they're 2 different things. When the app updates next, it'll be brought up to date with the latest client module, but will also bring it up to date with the latest android Native UI module.

At some point in the future android will have updates that only update the native ui without touching the client and vice versa.

We'll try to update the client module with the client updates of other platforms, but the native UI can be updated independently.

[haughty kraken]

Hey, how can i show my own avatar on android if its very poor (need to learn blender stuff, but it takes time)? I only the the dafault fallback

[naive bluff]

You can't.

[haughty kraken]

well thx for the fast answer time to learn some blender skills then qwq

[grand zenith]

Yeah, very poor is just not a thing on Android.

[split nymph]

So,
When will we see the open beta go public?

[heady sparrow]

They have no idea yet

[grand zenith]

When enough commits happen to the code base

[split nymph]

They could at least open it up for the public for maybe a week or so for the people to test it out and see what the current status is and let them close it at Christmas

[grand zenith]

Nope, it's still in early alpha. Meaning it's not ready for people to see it yet.

Development at scale usually always goes. Dev > QA > Closed alpha > Open beta > Live.

[heady sparrow]

Its very much not ready

[split nymph]

I'm really getting impatient with this..
I wanted to play vrchat cuz I never played it before,
Now I'm regretting my decision

[heady sparrow]

And judging by its development currently might be pushed back into next year

[split nymph]

Vrchat better be prepared for my review.

[grand zenith]

Ok

[heady sparrow]

Vrchat got dislike bombed for the eac update
I dont think your singular review will do anything

I dont even think you trying review bots/alts would actually do anything either

[heady sparrow]

I dont think the android/ios(whenever that gets put into far enough development) will even be a recommended way to play because you would still need a strong enough phone to even open the game

Let alone it being only 2d mode since a google cardboard most likely wont be supported

[split nymph]

I have a 6GB ram phone,
It's obvious from my YouTube videos when I did play it with vrchat+ membership that it can work on a 6GB phone

[naive bluff]

6GB is the minimum, of course it'll work.

[lapis briar]

Is there a bug with vrc mobile that prevents it from showing how many people are in an instance?

[lilac delta]

cringe xD

[heady sparrow]

you are running a completely different version of vrc on mobile

[slim niche]

coyote noises

[naive bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/be-quiet-back-there-ms-crabtree-south-park-silence-shut-up-gif-21681151

[analog lodge]

got my oneplus 11 to android 14 now need to tweak it's on settings little before i go and try performance in vrc mobile

[rain vault]

android app feels kinda buggy at times, sometimes even navigating the main menu just makes the app have a brain fart and it closes itself, and sometimes i've noticed it just doesn't let me manually rotate the screen unless i turn on auto rotate, a bit annoying
i hope atleast that the sudden random app crashes are fixed

[rain vault]

S23 Ultra btw

i am curious though, anyone gotten vrchat running on tablets? like a samsung tab S8?

[jaunty ice]

it just doesn't let me manually rotate the screen unless i turn on auto rotate, a bit annoying
ha i thought i was the only one. it used to work, it broke when they added the pre game launch UI

[rain vault]

Atleast i'm not alone, haha

[boreal ermine]

I'm having a problem where when I input my email and password in correctly it says "Incorrect email/Password"

Could someone please help me with that?

[jaunty ice]

probably this https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-alpha/p/native-uiandroid-alpha-cant-login

[azure nexus]

Lightings broken brrrrrr

[astral scaffold]

My pixel 6 says VRChat is not compatible on the play store

But it should meet the requirements

8gb ram, Android 14

[astral scaffold]

Got it working with an APK. I guess Android 14 shows incompatible on the play store

[brittle cypress]

it doesn't for me. running Android 14 on a Pixel 7a 🤔

[astral scaffold]

Bizarre. I've heard both that it work son Pixel 6, and that it works on 14 now. Both of which are me, but the store says its not compatible. I'm not rooted or anything, just on newest update.

[boreal ermine]

Didn't help me

[fallen parcel]

If this goes public, I wonder how this will impact the VRChat community when everyone with a phone can join, making the entry barrier virtually non-existent. No longer you need a VR headset or a Desktop PC. More people means more fun, right? Public lobbies aren't gonna be overrun by even more kids screaming racial slurs... right? Interesting times lie ahead of us.

[naive bluff]

"Everyone with a phone" is a bit too wide, considering you need a relatively strong phone to run it.

Most people use budget phones that don't meet the criteria.

[fallen parcel]

That's fair, although there are many kids who own the latest Galaxy phone each and every year. Phones are still somewhat of a status symbol. But saying that everyone has soon access to VRChat goes a bit too far, you're right.

Nonetheless, I see the need to make VRChat accessible to more people. Not every Quest user is a child, so not every Phone user will be either.

By the way, since the latest patch, standalone VR devices are only displayed as "Android" in the nameplates, which was previously only intended for mobile users. There is now no longer any distinction between standalone VR and phone users. This makes sense in that the content to which these two user groups have access is the same.

[naive bluff]

Well, there's also Pico.

Would be redundant to label Pico users as Questies. You know?

[fallen parcel]

Of course, but they could have chosen a different label so that standalone VR and phone users could still be distinguished, but they decided against it. I find that interesting.

[naive bluff]

You do realize Quest and Pico both use Android, right?

It's simply reducing it to a collective term.

[fallen parcel]

I think there's something more to it. Quest users are often discriminated against by PCVR users for being Quest users. Some immediately block Quest users on sight because they simply assume it is a child. Maybe the devs want to prevent this for phone users.

[naive bluff]

Nnnnno? It's because Android is a collective term for standalone. It was "Quest" before 'cause that was the only standalone headset on the market that supported VRC.

Now that Pico (and likely Valve's headset in the future) is supported, it's now labeled as the OS.

[pearl mulch]

that change in labeling wouldn't change the behavior at all as probably most of the Android phone users are going to more on the young side

[pearl mulch]

https://ask.vrchat.com/t/developer-update-7-december-2023/21274

[naive bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/demjointz-incoming-nah-nah-nah-kanye-kanye-west-gif-25809722

[barren field]

YIPEE

[brittle cypress]

oh boyyyy

Mostly just waiting for google to give the thumbs up, otherwise the build is pretty much ready!

[barren field]

I'm watching the player count avidly

[keen carbon]

I honestly think it’s a great idea for people that live in countries where it is hard for them to afford a pc or a vr headset because phones are more accessible worldwide

[vale edge]

I was really hoping for an invert view option before beta but I'll patiently wait. I've enjoyed it regardless. Just cant use my controller like I'd love to xP

[brittle cypress]

For the record, the app still has it's issues, heh. This upcoming patch addresses a looottt of them. But we have to pull the trigger on opening it up at some point, and the more errors we have getting reported, the more info we have to fix things. This is just sort of the next step in getting things to the point we need for a true "1.0" of VRChat on Android and its wrapper app. We're still a while away from that "1.0" point though.

[verbal pivot]

Uhh, it still says i need vrc+

[barren field]

Soon™️

[native igloo]

Google Play Store use grouped rollout system which means...it may take up to few hour to rollout update to everyone.

[young kindle]

so its live but not yet for everybody

[native igloo]

bacause of google, yes.
vrchat did their part already.

[verbal pivot]

Uhh, that explains it

Seen couple of people on mobile without plus

[keen storm]

how long does it take Google to roll out the update to everybody?

[vale edge]

It takes exactly however long it takes

[keen storm]

hours, days, weeks, months?

[grand zenith]

87 years ofc

Man didn't expect to see android to move out of alpha so soon to christmas.

Man the 26th is gonna be nuts this year lol.

[brittle cypress]

Nobody has the update. It's not rolling out to people currently. It's currently sitting in review for Google. Once it's out of review, we'll be able to flip the switch to make it live.

[foggy mountain]

tomorrow or a week i'm guessing?

[grand zenith]

Soon tm

[native igloo]

ah, review process still going on, ic

[brittle cypress]

I hope for tomorrow, but it's up to our Google overlords 🙏

[foggy mountain]

is it going to have the impostors feature too?

[native igloo]

1 small request,
do announcement when google review done next time,
then everyone be happy when see announcement said rolling it.
(and it is much more.....general habit of these kind)

[lusty hazel]

I feel like always having to wait on Google will be quite annoying in the future

[dark path]

I would love an apk off the site tbh

I would gladly give vrchat permission to install apk so it can update itself

[verbal pivot]

not possible, they use device trust services by google

[verbal pivot]

staged rollout is optional for app devs

[amber wolf]

What req of VRChat Mobile are?

[exotic relic]

This is listed in #android-announcements

[half tapir]

I guess the login fix didnt got published yet

[keen storm]

it would be nice to have the option to sideload the new .apk instead of waiting for Google

[amber wolf]

really?! I have Android 11 and 4gb ram. I hope they will decrease (for testing purposes).

[grand zenith]

Nope

[olive ingot]

Soo VRC on android should be beta soon?

Heard google play is slow to release updates

[verbal pivot]

i thought apple was slow, sad to see google doing it now too

and they probably dont even do anything, just some poor worker clicks a checkbox

[drifting slate]

Do I still have to pay to play on the phone?

[grand zenith]

Yes.. Until google gets their act together and pushes the update lol.

[olive ingot]

Idk its prolly servers exhanging apks n shit

[verbal pivot]

It doesn't take several hours

[naive bluff]

You'd be surprised.

Certification can take days.

It's a relatively long process.

[drifting slate]

[dry wharf]

is there a dark mode for the menu?

[keen storm]

How do I equip the imposter version of my avatar on mobile? I generated one over a week ago.

[dry wharf]

it shows as default i believe

if the avatar rating is poor

or thats what its doing for mine

[unique umbra]

Any chance anyone's figured out how to create a VRChat mobile instance that isn't public, from the outside-instances menu you get when you first open the app? (not the normal vrc menu within an instance)

was poking around for a settings menu option to use something else by default but zilch so far... having to boot into a public just to then make a private's pretty goofy. 😛

[undone slate]

do i get mobile notifications for instance queues?

[verbal pivot]

ummm

i guess we have a big problem, i try to login but it says that login failed
and then i receive an email with confirmation code

[patent flint]

how do i get it on my phone

[naive bluff]

Play Store.

[patent flint]

is it out in the uk yet?

[naive bluff]

Uhhh.... I don't know?

[wheat crest]

...why is VRchat Beta not available for my phone?

[verbal pivot]

i have just updated the app btw

[patent flint]

because i cant see it

[wheat crest]

I've got a OnePlus 11 with 12GB of RAM

I think that's plenty powerful but it says it's not supported lol

[naive bluff]

Android 13?

[wheat crest]

Yea

[verbal pivot]

there's whitelist of devices or something

[wheat crest]

Ah ok

[verbal pivot]

did you root it btw?

[wheat crest]

Yeah, but I've got Safetynet check and a root blocklist

That's not the issue

[verbal pivot]

idk, try aurora store? might not work at all.

[naive bluff]

11 Pro or non-Pro?

[wheat crest]

There is no 11 pro

[naive bluff]

Oh. Well... then how the hell do you have 12GB of RAM. It only comes with 8 or 16.

[wheat crest]

That's what I meant lol

Not 12, 16

[patent flint]

bruh i cant seem to find it on app store can some one link it?

[verbal pivot]

https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.vrchat.mobile.playstore

[naive bluff]

Android package names are weird sometimes.

[forest blade]

bruh i can't install it because i'm in android 11

[patent flint]

its not compatible

[stiff ibex]

👉👈

[naive bluff]

That's... good?

10 is the minimum.

[upbeat mantle]

I found bug that if u have a home world that is PC Only, u cannot play using the "Play" Button

i got stuck in a infinity loading

because of that

then i change it to the default one and works now

🤓

[naive bluff]

Ahem. Squid, did you forget to change the wording on the build name?

[forest blade]

it says that my devise is not compatible with this version

[remote temple]

vrc Android is available for everyone now?😳

[upbeat mantle]

yes

[proud creek]

The Prompt for 2FA using Google Authenticator shows up but then goes away immediately.

[muted kayak]

yes

[remote temple]

gott expand my memory

[worldly tulip]

I'm stuck on the first loading screen

[kindred haven]

will it ever be compatible for lower android phones

[naive bluff]

Likely not, considering Quest has 6GB and is built for that standard.

[kindred haven]

my phone only had 4GB even tho it's newer😭

[wheat crest]

That did in fact work, and you turned me onto a new app

So now I can use my modded playstore without having to have 2 installations, thanks for that 🙂

[muted kayak]

cheap phone then

[verbal pivot]

aurora store is also on fdroid btw

[wheat crest]

Yeah, that's where I got it

Well, I got it from the fdroid website

[worldly tulip]

How do I switch to landscape mode?

[verbal pivot]

based

[wheat crest]

Should just rotate automatically

[naive bluff]

Tilt your phone and hope that you have automatic rotation.

[wheat crest]

Also, I assume >60fps isn't supported yet?

[verbal pivot]

if you have samsung you can create an automation profile to force landscaped mode

[wheat crest]

It seems to think that's my refresh rate cap

[icy stag]

How do i download the vrchat game?

It says mt device isn't compatible?

[naive bluff]

Does your phone meet the requirements?

(Android 10, and at least 6GB of system RAM)

[icy stag]

Idk

Mine has 4gb of ram

[proud creek]

VRChat crashes and sends me back to the home page when opening the Big Menu

[naive bluff]

Then you can't.

[icy stag]

Damn

[naive bluff]

Funny how everything necessary is posted in #android-announcements yet no one reads it.

[proud creek]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I can't even send any media from my phone, new discord update is great!

[heady sparrow]

newer yes
cheap? also yes

[proud creek]

This is with a Pixel 7

Oh no its when rotating the device it crashes

Don't forget about the channel description

[worn drum]

They forgot to update the description

It's open to everyone now, no longer in alpha

[remote temple]

nope. this one is one laggy machine.

hopping on my pc idc

[naive bluff]

Found a smol bug.

[native igloo]

discord experiencing issue at the moment.

[brittle cypress]

This is all great feedback! I have no idea why the app is crashing/re-booting for you like that. it shouldn't be... But either way, I'd like to voice to please not post bugs here! They will get lost!

Please post all bugs and feedback here so we can track and actually fix it!
https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-alpha

[native igloo]

This is just...oudated @brittle cypress need to update channel desc.

[brittle cypress]

I don't have permission to do so, it will get changed at some point though.

[native igloo]

oh....sad to hear that as you are main person speaking here...

[brittle cypress]

I don't run the discord...? That's up to a different team.

[south sparrow]

VRChat enforces Play Integrity???

I'm getting device is not compatible on a Pixel 6a, rooted

[brittle cypress]

yep, if you're rooted then you unfortunately may not have access.

[south sparrow]

I'm my opinion dumb, but I get why

[worn drum]

You can still install via aurora store fine (open source frontend of play store), just keep in mind that it may come along with it's own set of issues

[south sparrow]

Oh I know

I just wanted to confirm is all

[worn drum]

:3

[south sparrow]

Thanks tho:3

[worn drum]

tfw aurora also fetches updates faster than the play store itself wtf

[naive bluff]

What's the official build number?

It won't let me submit a bug report without a build number (I tried 2023.4.2p2m but didn't work)

[oblique sequoia]

Does anyone know why the play store that my device is not compatible with Vrchat mobile, and that my cell phone is good

[naive bluff]

Does your phone have >6GB of RAM?

[worn drum]

i'd assume it'll be whatever build number is shown ingame

[oblique sequoia]

I don't know lol

[naive bluff]

How do you not know?

[worn drum]

[naive bluff]

1390, got it.

[oblique sequoia]

Would it run on a cell phone with 4GB of RAM? Because that's what I have and I'm using

Unfortunately, poverty is a reality

[naive bluff]

It will... but it's not officially supported.

Will run like ass.

[worn drum]

ye don't expect great things

[oblique sequoia]

But if you put everything to minimum I think it works hahaha

But I could try it out because I've already figured out the beta program thing.

A cell phone with Android 12 only having 4GB of RAM is complicated

[worn drum]

Not really, with 4gb of ram, especially on top of latest andriod versions, you're going to run into a lot of OOM scenarios

and you're just going to be fighting android on it wanting to kill the app/etc

only way i can see it remotely working would be disabling avatars entirely and playing robochat

Even then, you'll still be heavily limited depending on the world and amount of players

gotta keep in mind how bad vrchat runs on the quest, mainly due to ram issues (6gb), expecting less to work well is insane

[naive bluff]

Think of it as a Quest.

[worn drum]

an OG quest

not even a quest 2

[naive bluff]

Well, OG Quest had 4GB, 2 has 6.

[oblique sequoia]

You can use desktop mode

It's practically the same thing but more limited

[worn drum]

Doesn't fix the ram/vram issues, only helps with rendering

[worn drum]

O ye, does support above 60, just change fps setting to capped and then raise it

[naive bluff]

VRCM go brrrr.

[south sparrow]

Even on 6 GB phones, even the UI before getting into the actual game is really sluggish

[rotund mortar]

Anyone still experiencing issues with correct credentials being considered wrong when trying to log in?

[little halo]

if those temperatures are correct then yikes

[unkempt nimbus]

gonna be honest, I kinda wish I could just boot in directly without the weird af UI like PC VRchat, still trying to figure out how tf to open my home world

[naive bluff]

Easy: tap the "Play" button literally in the middle.

[unkempt nimbus]

you mean the greyed out rocket that's perpetually saying loading and has been saying that for the last 30 minutes?

[worn drum]

not unusual for phones

especially for the pixel series, they are notorious for overheating

it's my only issue i have with the device

pixel 7 pro

Debating wiping and installing latest beta with the gpu driver updates and other shii to see exactly how much of a performance gain i get, ive seen a lot of really good results

[little halo]

ah, I have the S23 Ultra and the temps are usually handled well

[worn drum]

samsung does a good job with their device cooling