depending on the project that may be for the better
#hardware
median marsh
fallen oasis
I feel like this guy has said he's regenerating landscape on every tick.
I apologise, btw, @oblique spire. Those are some nice bits of kit and I'm sure you'll enjoy them. They're just questionable choices.
oblique spire
Lol. So funny. Engineer is also an animator. Artist loves to see the big picture while creating the environment. Performance is awesome. We leave builds on the build machine overnight. We bought the Alienwares January 2019. I’m a girl. We’ll a gramma, actually.
fallen oasis
Well done on being a girl, I guess?!
oblique spire
When ppl call me a guy I like to correct them.
fallen oasis
If you leave them building overnight, you still don't need that particular build machine!
oblique spire
Why criticize if it works so well for us? Tbh the one we wanted was back ordered so many times we settled for this one.
fallen oasis
You can ferry your kids to school every morning in a ferrari if you want, too, but (in London at least) if you're doing it in Central London, you're paying congestion and low emissions charges. You're not as safe as you could be. You might be able to park easier in a smaller, hybrid or electric car.
The point being that just having a flashy, good spec PC doesn't mean it's right for the job.
Especially where Unreal is concerned if you're building from source.
oblique spire
Would have cost more to remove the blue ray.
fallen oasis
If you were having issues with backorders, you could have built machines with a better spec in a few days.
oblique spire
Our game environment is very dense with a lot of verticality. 32 gigs of ram was fine but now we have no reason to be impatient. And with my level design I can have the whole city/world environment loaded at once while I build it, fx and all. It’s very very sweet being able to fly around while I do a first pass on one end and 4th on the other. Seeing the big picture like this is an artist’s dream.
My partner works full time for a game dev company with no time for building hardware. We choose our battles according to our needs. This works for us.🙂😎
fallen oasis
Nobody is criticising your choice of ram size or having a br drive, really. 64gb is great! But it's just everything else.
(Except for your server, but 32gb is fine for only 16 threads, really)
median marsh
i'm just saying that it's not a good recommendation, neither important for UE dev (the BR drive)
hard disks are way more flexible, have better price ratio and are faster
fallen oasis
But if they come with the machine, there's no point removing them, per se.
median marsh
yea, but there's also no point of mentioning them here 😄
oblique spire
Lol
Anyone working on a game like ours might find it interesting. Also as a tech artist I love t have photoshop and Lightwave open at the same time so I can smoothly work between them. I’m pretty sure Epic would approve.
wind egret
You forgot to mention the monitors.
wind egret
How is curved for development?
oblique spire
Great
oblique spire
If you look at my WIP posts it takes you to my partner’s YouTube where there are lots of dev vids.
Partner is a pro. We will take all reasonable specs into consideration.
Surface Pro 6 and 8
We can deal with those things closer to release. Partner is also a Systems Engineer.
fallen oasis
I can't get on with bigger than 24". Just seems too big. But then again, I'm not an artist.
oblique spire
I get that. Partner can’t model because of vertigo in 3D. I love it, I get right in it. Might have something to do with coming from being a tactile artist painting huge canvases in younger years.
Also max FOV in all games. Lol.
wind egret
Bigger screen works if you sit further back.
wind egret
If the pixel pitch is higher*, the end result is the same, except you'd need to not be nearsighted.
*Lower? Which direction in pixel pitch is "up"?
fallen oasis
It may be the same, but I'd still lean forward to see it probably. 😛
wind egret
Classic nose-to-the-screen power user methodology.
median marsh
sometimes have that too now, getting older and may be that my old screen had lower PPI
can't imagine how people work with 4k on 27" or something
fallen oasis
UI Scale!
median marsh
yea but then i can just go for a lower resolution xD
instead of scaling everything up
saves gpu resources, too
wind egret
Blame the software for not being compatible with 240 dpi
fallen oasis
Isn't as smooth!
median marsh
squeeze your eyes a bit, then it gets smooth
as long as i cant tell apart pixels it's fine
pallid hawk
Does 1660s is fine for archviz?
I finally have a 3090
sharp pumice
After reading some threads and asking questions, thanks to more knowledgeable people than myself I managed to come up with this setup.
Intent of this build is to handle both unreal and games fairly well (at least compared to my old setup)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL II Mesh RGB Black
GPU: 1070 TI <-- leftover from old setup I don't have enough budget to buy anything better
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X or 5950
PSU: BitFenix Whisper M 650W (BP-WG650UMAG-9FM)
Mobo: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2
SSD: Samsung 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 980 or WD 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Black SN750 or ADATA 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe XPG SX8200 Pro
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V, DDR4, 32 GB, 3600MHz, CL16 (F4-3600C16D-32GVKC)
Cooling: CPU Scythe Fuma 2
I'd appreciate any comments on this setup, especially if it is worth getting ryzen 5950 over 5900 in this particular case
sharp pumice
My project compile times are getting out of hand, not because I put everything into a single module (I split most of my functionalities into plugins), It is probably because my current cpu i5-4690K is quite on the old side. I guess switching to almost any cpu at this point would make significant difference
mighty cosmos
Also I would recommend 64GB of ram if you are going with a 5950x if you are gonna be compiling stuff
It is usually recommended to have 1.5GB per thread
sharp pumice
Also I would recommend 64GB of ram if you are going with a 5950x if you are gonn...
Good to know, does 3200mhz and 3600mhz ram make much difference with this cpu?
fallen oasis
I highly recommend an AIO water cooler. They're fab.
frank glade
I had an Corsair AIO a few years ago, it was cool, but horrible pump noise. They replaced it, apparently the whole series had that issue. Now rocking a NH D15 and very pleased with it
I'm thinking of downsizing to an even smaller ITX case, shame there aren't many options to fit it
fallen oasis
I can't hear my thermaltake one at all.
winged thorn
I just got this to replace my non-chromax version. The absolute best air cooler you can get for 5800x and only 1 degree warmer from the much larger D15
fallen oasis
I used prime95 to test my cooling, didn't go above like 60. Compiling UE sent it to 80 😄
winged thorn
Anything Noctua makes is great but U12A is the champ. What case have you got? I just bought my second NR200. It truely is the most versatile case for the price.
median marsh
https://www.silentiumpc.com/en/product/grandis-3/ that's btw a good and cheap alternative to the noctua, can't complain about it
yea my before all purpose cooler was that "beauty"
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51BaG4lmZdL._AC_SX450_.jpg
had that on 3 different cpu's/sockets
😄
for your chipset?
that looks loud and inefficient
so that was more like P2-P3 area
i had one of those pentium d cpu's they could have been sold as electric heaters
looking at the specs... the pentium d had 95W tdp, which seems to be normal nowadays
Pentium3 with it's 30W TDP was really another thing 😄
the alder lake?
ah i see
fallen oasis
I think I had one of those!
median marsh
i think that was one of the cpu's where amd was ahead of intel
wasn't athlon xp the time when intel had pentium 3?
fallen oasis
None of those fake MHz you get now days
idle ruin
Would the 2 extra cores in a ryzen 5800x be worth the extra bit of cash for c++ development and ue4 over a 5600x which has fairly similar performance?
fallen oasis
More cores is always good. For c++ dev with a source build, it'll be great.
idle ruin
things ive seen online is shown that in gaming and other things the 5600x surprisingly comes out on top yet that is only going to be half of my workload so i might just drop the extra bit and get the 5800x
thanks!
winged thorn
My PC is worth more than my car
fallen oasis
Priorities 😄
winged thorn
Making games is my passion so no expense was spared on the thing 😛
This is my favorite case: https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/mini-itx/masterbox-nr200/
frank glade
Im just thinking of downsizing to a NR200
fallen oasis
Friend is getting this with static text... is his monitor just fucked? (that is a word document)
winged thorn
I'm going to transfer my components into the black one as I decided to do a black build
fallen oasis
For reference, it was a bad hdmi cable.
cloud fiber
does anyone here use UE with an ultrawide?
idle ruin
does anyone here use UE with an ultrawide?
i have been for a bit. Its not too bad
cloud fiber
i have been for a bit. Its not too bad
oh very nice. i feel like the editor takes up too much of its own real estate. i enabled small editor icons or whatever its called and its helps, but the menus are way too big. i think ue5 and darker nodes fix this, but i was curious about how much more space you get out of an ultrawide. fwiw i dont think unity has this issue, or at least has it to a lesser extent. its UI seems a bit more lean
idle ruin
ive never heard of the small editor icons thing but I dont find too much problems. I fit 2 content browsers at the bottom which is very handing rather than having to always go out an back in. most of the editor stuff i keep stock though
cloud fiber
hm fair enough. i wish UE had collapsible menus like visual studio does. that would be 🔥
idle ruin
that would be amazing
nimble mica
anyone know, if a rtx 3060 12gb oc 192 ghz will be enough for ue5 lumen and rattracing ( not sure about lumen I hear its not performant at all ) ? TY anyone 😉
median marsh
regardless lumen and RTX the 3060 is a good choice imho
much vram, and decent performance
tired kelp
anyone know, if a rtx 3060 12gb oc 192 ghz will be enough for ue5 lumen and rat...
I think lumen is a bit of a wildcard at the moment. I'd wait for UE5 to release properly first and epic to stamp down some recommendations before choosing hardware
nimble mica
My system isn't enough really, to handle lumen given the size of my world, but ya I hear its not performant, Ihope they are able to address that.
@tired kelp OK , solid advice. Will do ty ;))))
remote moon
Hey guys. I'm planning to buy a new PC and I need your advice. I wanted to buy the Dell XPS 17 with Intel i7 11th gen + RTX3060 6GB GDDR6 and 32 GB of RAM
I chose this laptop because it seems to be the only good, high-end laptop with such hardware in it
the thing is it costs about 3500€ (~3800 USD), and I wondered if you have any idea of a laptop with approximately the same hardware in it for a lower price ?
I mean it is expansive, but I've literally not found a laptop as powerful as this one (not talking about hideous gaming laptops) even in the same price range
I know MSI does some more powerful laptops but I'm not ready to spend up to 5k
and I've been looking for a while. this overpriced shit seems to be my last option
devout pendant
I have krk monitors and whenever I use unreal engine or play any games I get annoying buzzing sound from speakers. If I drag and resize content browser the sound changes and kinda goes along with mouse movement. On file, edit, window etc it stops.
Any ideas how to fix it?
Same sound changes when you move camera in unreal
it's kinda like stretching/screeching, buzzing kind of sound
pc, monitor and speakers are plugged into one power cord extender
fallen oasis
If you want it for UE dev work, get more cores.
devout pendant
i have ryzen 5600
can't be a problem with that
i mean I get that annoying sound while playing games too
serene sentinel
are you sure its your speakers buzzing and not your graphics card?
devout pendant
yeah
fallen oasis
It might be interference.
fallen oasis
More thinking of the wires. But idk.
devout pendant
yeah weird shit
usually in morning I don't care about it after a cup of coffee
but later on it drives you insane lol
fallen oasis
I fixed an issue with a fan a moment ago.
Bit of tissue under the case to stop vibration! 😄
frank glade
@remote moon brands like schenker, xmg, xenia? Also a lot of Asus laptops are spec'd with 6900x, better RTX cards and way cheaper
remote moon
<@407969219972562956> brands like schenker, xmg, xenia? Also a lot of Asus lapt...
I'll look into that, thanks a lot
tawdry crag
I dunno if im in the right channel
but i have a question regarding hardware
Is there any way to use my 6500 xt(doesn't have h264/h264 encoding) for gaming and my IGPU (vega 8) for encoding? @everyone?
median marsh
for live streaming?
as in encode what happens on the 6500XT with the vega8? (then the answer is most likely: no)
tawdry crag
You know, I thought the same thing until I bought one and guess what: It's 100/100 fine
everything runs smoothly at high settings and some games run fine even with RTX on like Forza horizon 5
anyways
there is a problem with windows
it tells me that there is a device error and the encoder won't show up
tawdry crag
??
wdym?
shadow of the tomb raider works fine if I turn fsr on
but Forza works at native 1080p at 60+ fps all the time
on a pci e 3 mobo
hoary lintel
I chose this laptop because it seems to be the only good, high-end laptop with s...
i dont know where you're from and how hard you've looked but in germany at notebooksbilliger.de, such a laptop would go for 1600-1800 max
not the lenovo one of course, thats more of an logo pricetag kinda like apple and samsung
tawdry crag
also for their prebuild Alienware prebuilds lol
storm plank
We live in a society where a RTX 3060Ti can beat RTX 2080 super
wind egret
And cost more.
wind egret
It'll be interesting to see cards doing 120 fps at 4K. Sounds like the 3090 Ti won't be a member of that party though.
storm plank
And cost more.
You can buy a whole pc with core i7 11th gen, 16gb ram, rtx 3060ti 12 gb, RGB for more fps within 1200$ in my country
wind egret
an RTX 3060 Ti 12 GB?
storm plank
Yes
median marsh
but you wont get 120fps on 4k there
actually it's the only RTX game i've played so far 😄
wind egret
They did add normal maps and PBR shaders, but I'd still expect it's the resolution and raytracing that kills in Q2RTX. I think the 20 series were targeting 1 sample per pixel, and 30 series didn't even double that.
devout pendant
All my friggin peripherals and my machine
median marsh
can it run crysis?
devout pendant
can it run crysis?
maybe
i dunno never tried nor havei played crysis
as you can see i keep my placea bit disorganized. its not messy in the sense that theres garbage everywhere. but there are items strewn lol
median marsh
indeed
devout pendant
the papers in the background have been there for weeks. i keep forgetting to read them. also dont have time
median marsh
devout pendant
https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553
exactly
the cigarette completes the image
median marsh
see
you could lift the carpet, and just hide the papers beneath it 😄
one problem solved
devout pendant
one problem solved
lmao noooo
im studying for a license
those are a study guide
median marsh
that's an i5, not i7
storm plank
Ya that's ok that doesn't matter that much
Also rtx 3060ti is 8gb in this
But this is value for money pc
I mean if you buy rtx 3060ti alone, it will cost 800-900 usd online
Depends on budget
It is upgradable
SuS
Ok
But I had only 1300usd budget and this is great
Yea that's also true
Gr8
See ya
median marsh
Ya that's ok that doesn't matter that much
well, depending on which i5 vs i7 that can matter a lot
specially in game dev
and what lorash said
if you have bad luck you cant even upgrade memory much
because it only got 2 slots or something even more weird
doesn't alienware at least use decent mainboards?
and standard psus
oh, yea forgot that dell bought them
well, any decent computer store offers their own prebuild systems which usually give more bangs for the buck
well, last time i really looked at them where when they've been a standalone company and only their cases where special
computers been gray then 😄
that looks like my air cleaner
😄
yea, but it sucks
^^
so the fan blows the hot air against the PSU which is pretty much laying on the fan
that looks like it was designed for another PSU which has a intake
and they replaced that PSU for another model, which isn't ideal for that
tired kelp
does anyone know if nvidia dch drivers are somehow wrapped standard drivers?
I seem to have some compatibility issues with it
median marsh
or wait, is the PSU mounted the wrong way nah, cant
tired kelp
so is there a tool to install from dch if there's compatibility issues?
tired kelp
doesn't work 😔
hoary lintel
thats my goto clip for when im bored, its fun everytime again
its not garbage, rather a "timeless design" as Stephe said so nicely
youtuber "der 8uer" has a nice video on Alienware Aurora as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeFF51XYq4
its german, maybe subtitles will do good for anyone who doesnt speak it.
they seem to have gotten rid of some of their shitty ideas and it seems to run ok.
but you cant stop imagineng what it could run like if they got rid of all their bullshit design/software/bios decisions
median marsh
lenovo also has some neat bios stuff going on
theres a video of linus which shows how they lock ryzens to their vendor id, so the cpu will never work in another system than lenovo
hoary lintel
seen that video, but as i recall its not a lot of ryzen cpus that get that lock. just some prebuild ones or something like that
oh right lenovo you already said it
median marsh
still sucks if you buy an used ryzen and it doesn't work for you, then you send it back and it works on the sellers machine
and no one of both parties is aware of that lock
hoary lintel
well it should have a fat sticker on it that tells you "CPU cant be used in different machine, sucker"
median marsh
indeed
hoary lintel
that sticker could also prehibit heatpaste to contact the cpu
that would fit lenovo
median marsh
or it should prompt the user on the first start, so that they can decide if they want to lock it or not
i don't had bad experience with lenovo yet
their laptops are solid, and i have a neat mini pc of them here, which does it's job for the usual office workplace
hoary lintel
yeah lot of prebuilds might work alright most of the time, i just dont want'em anymore.
i just feel to much urge to rip it appart and take a look at it, if they did everything correctly
but that would cancel warranty
so i rather build myself
hoary lintel
germany
median marsh
probably illegal there, too
hoary lintel
yeah it is, but the legal loophole is that a specialist is required and you can call yourself a specialist if you're experienced enough but you'll run out of money for the court before you get them to agree with you
fallen oasis
Prebuilts are great if you don't know what you're doing!
I had this friend, he complained his cpu was overheating and his pc was shutting down, so he touched the cpu to see if it was hot. While the PC was running, no less. Just think about what that means.
agile lodge
Intel arc graphics announcements today
errant peak
I had this friend, he complained his cpu was overheating and his pc was shutting...
Wait what.... Wait WHAT... WTF!?
devout pendant
I had this friend, he complained his cpu was overheating and his pc was shutting...
I have a cousin who did this
fallen oasis
Did he go by the name Mickah? 🙂
storm plank
Give this man some thermal paste and a cooler 😂
storm plank
Intel arc graphics announcements today
They are bad. I am amd fanboy
Is gtx 1060 enough for unreal engine?
Unreal engine 5
storm plank
Suggest me a cheap GPU under 500$ which can run unreal engine
frank glade
@storm plank my 1060 6gb couldn't really handle UE5, I mean everything was very laggy in editor viewports. Lumen ran at 20-30 fps with low scalability
storm plank
How much ram do you have?
frank glade
32gb
storm plank
I saw a youtuber making a beautiful scenery with lots of assets in a pc with gtx 1060, 32gb ram, core i7 10th gen pc. The editor was running on cinematic scalability
frank glade
don't know, mine was very laggy evenwith basically empty scenes. it might matter that I was running at 4k resolution
storm plank
Lol you were running 4k res on a gtx 1060
frank glade
and it was great with ue4
wind egret
4k on a 1060, that's cruelty
devout pendant
Did he go by the name Mickah? 🙂
nope
fallen oasis
That would have been a fun coincidence!
wind egret
I'll join him in the 'is this dangerous, lemme touch it' crowd.
wind egret
Judge Thermodynamics presiding
The defendant is found Guilty of being completely wrong and faces a sentence of several minutes of pain before an analgesic can be found.
On the stand, Finger pleaded that Brain has done this before and shown no sign of remorse. Brain praised the verdict, saying that "I should have known better" but "it could have been worse".```a 1060 is good enough to get started if it's the 6gb version
the main reason i've upgraded from the 1660 was that 6gb vram wasn't cutting it at some point
hoary lintel
I had this friend, he complained his cpu was overheating and his pc was shutting...
should have just baken an egg on it to see how fast it was done, to see if its really to hot
median marsh
is that some thing implemented in screens or what?
fossil oyster
Hey guys, I have a 120mhz gsync monitor and I maximize the editor to full size, I start to get a lot of screen tearing. But if I run it in windowed mode, it runs without any tearing. Any ideas how to fix it ?
fallen oasis
You're probably lowering the frame rate by maximising the window.
That might affect it.
Or not, apparently.
fossil oyster
no, framerate is the same
robust parrot
I have a Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD but it's lacking the space that I need. I want to buy another SSD, but I don't know what type of SSD to get for the most performance on my ASRock B560M Pro4 motherboard.
The motherboard specs say
6 SATA3,
1 x Hyper M.2 (PCIe Gen4 x4),
1 x Ultra M.2 (PCIe Gen3 x4 & SATA3)```
Any suggestions? :/Does size of your SSD matters becuase I bought a 512gb sata 3 SSD which feels very light and small in hand.
Will I get better performance with a bigger SSD?
robust parrot
no. the specs is all the matters, not the size or weight
blazing shard
Some bigger SSDs do get better performance then the smallest size option of a particular lineup due to having more storage being able to work in parallel
median marsh
@robust parrot just get an m2 nvme, also check which length your mobo supports
but ususally the common length 2280 is fine
i got good experience with samsung evo 970 so far
robust parrot
yes, thanks. i found out that i can get a Samsung 980 MZ-V8V1T0B/IT which looks pretty decent
median marsh
yea thats pretty much the successor of the 970 series
median marsh
yea but M2.NVME is another story compared to SATA 😄
fossil oyster
depends on the scene, but around 100-120
empty oyster
Hi slackers! Got a dilema i hope you can help me out with. I've got an ryzen 7 2700x 32gb ram and AMD RX 550, which is strugling a lot in both unreal 4 and 5. I was wondering what is a good budget replacement that i can find on the market now? I know that prices are starting to go down bit was wandering which gpu i should look for up to 500e.
Yeah
Hmm, i thought to wait as well but wanted to see what the community has to say.
Hahahaha
median marsh
which isn't that bad either
empty oyster
Yeah same here in eastern europe. But i would like to wait a bit and get that 3070 if i can. Any version of it that is particulary good? I will be doing some arch viz scenes of churches and some smaller environments for gaming.
median marsh
honestly i would think about that
3070 is a bit faster, 3060 has 4GB more VRAM
specially if you want to use 4k+ textures for archviz, the 3060 could be the better choice
empty oyster
Thats something i was thinking about, since i would be using 4k textures more ram would definitely help. I was also looking at some 12gb versions of 3060, it is a bit more expensive. I always used AMD cards for occasional gaming, but this last year or so i got into unreal projects a bit and now I can't rally grasp the idea which n vidia card would be good and not break the bank. If these projects get more serious so will the funding so further upgrades wouldn't be an issue, but for now the upgrade is comming out of my own pocket. Thank you guys for the help! I appreciate it! :)
spare mango
Is there a major difference between the regular 3090 and the founders edition?
blazing shard
No, just the default clocks and cooling solution
rugged seal
Hi guys, can you advise me? I tried to run my game on ue4 on an old laptop, but he told me goodbye - you don't have dx 11 or 12.
And now I'm faced with the question of buying a new laptop just to test my game over the network (no graphics, just mechanics ). The option with discrete video cards is of course more expensive and I don’t want to spend extra money, but I can’t understand whether the game (not the engine) will run on integrated video cards?
For interest, I looked at Intel i3 and the intel website says that Intel UHD Graphics supports dx 12, so the game will work, right?
Thanks.
median marsh
what kind of laptop, maybe you can fall back to vulkan if your laptop supports it
fallen oasis
Why do you need a separate machine to test network? Do you specifically want to test latency or something? If it works with 2 clients on the same machine, it should work over the network, unless you have network settings issues.
rugged seal
what kind of laptop, maybe you can fall back to vulkan if your laptop supports i...
Core i3 5005U with Intel HD Graphics 5500
median marsh
the one which you have now
storm plank
Core i3 5005U with Intel HD Graphics 5500
Pay a few more bucks and atleast get a better laptop which will support you for some long time
storm plank
Idk why ue5 takes this much specs while a xbox can run the games made in it
median marsh
only do that at night, so theres more light to accumulate for unreal lightmap builder
tomorrow tim will tell us that we all living in UE6
while getting served with UE5
cloud fiber
hey lads i bought a PoE-in switch but i dont have an injector and it doesnt come with one. it says accepts passive Power over Ethernet 8-30V DC on Ether1 (Non 802.3af) but im not entirely sure what this means. is anyone able to help me pick out an injector for it? it also says the max power consumption is up to 6w. im thinking something like this https://www.umart.com.au/product/ubiquiti-poe-injector-24vdc-12w-38532
switch is one of these https://mikrotik.com/product/RB260GS
storm plank
Hello cansomeone help me, I saw a video of LTT and he said that data on an SSD can be written to a finite number of times. Is this true with my case too, i have a Seagate 512gb SATA3 SSD. What is the limit of the data written
cloud fiber
Hello cansomeone help me, I saw a video of LTT and he said that data on an SSD c...
Yes it's true. The same is sort of true for hdds too except for hdds is more that the head will die or crash but the physical bits on the platters will probably be fine but for ssds you get degraded flash. Unless you are constantly writing high volumes of data to your drive you should expect it to last at least 3-5 years even with daily use (eg as an OS drive). As for a specific limit, it really depends. It varies drive to drive even in the same model
blazing shard
It's about 300x the size of your SSD. Windows 10 will give you a warning if a drive is close to failure
wind egret
The warranty on the cheaper drives is that long but most drives can last longer, even the cheaper ones. However some drives may just shut down when they hit their warranty limit, even if the NAND itself can keep going. And SSDs may also fail from burning out components, just like hard drives.
There are also 'Q' drives (using QLC) that are noticeably worse than equivalent (TLC) SSDs in every category, though high end QLC may still be better than low end TLC.
HDDs fail too, and may even fail proportionally sooner than SSDs, if only because it takes longer for the HDD to reach the same amount of use.
median marsh
also possible that the SSD firmware prevents that by reallocating the sector to the reserve space, then you will notice that in the SMART report
errant peak
Hello cansomeone help me, I saw a video of LTT and he said that data on an SSD c...
The number of write cycles to do that is very high. Something on the order of hundreds of thousands or millions. It takes years to hit it. It's mostly a concern for applications like server caches that are up 24 x 7 and constantly writing to the same drive.
median marsh
Host_Writes_32MiB 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 1024689
Media_Wearout_Indicator 0x0032 086 086 000 Old_age Always - 0
so 31TB written on that ssd, which has 80gb size...
which is 400x the size of the ssd
11 reallocated sectors, which is like nothing, considering that sectorsize is 512 byte
so 14% wearout at the moment, 86% left :>
but my guess is that it highly depends on flash type and how the firmware handles stuff
fallen oasis
Where do you even get smart data these days?
median marsh
idk which windows tools are good, but guess there are plenty which can read them
if windows doesn't already parse them to warn their user
storm plank
Yaaaaaay
wind anvil
For UE5 open world game development, does it matter if your RAM is 3200mhz or 3600mhz? What about First Word Latency, CAS, or Timings? I'm going to buy 64 GB but I don't want to spend more than necessary
storm plank
3600mhz would give you much better performance
quick turret
did anyone try NVLink dual gpu set up for UE5 yet? Shared memory and all that? Does it makes sense?
mental parrot
6900xt vs 3080(10gb)? Atm they cost the same here, I'm mainly doing 3d/substance/ue
I assume 3080 is a better option, but I want to hear more opinions
mental parrot
Ye, I thought as much
frank glade
yes but keep in mind how much VRAM you need
because if a UE scene needs more than you have, you'll see 2-3 fps
If you're doing 3D and substance it might be a good option to consider 16gb of vram
I have the 3080 ti with 12gb and it's full in substance with 4k projects 😅
shoulda gotten the 3090
mental parrot
I mean 3090 would be perfect but it's just stupidly priced
If it was at msrp I'd get that ez
frank glade
well prices keep going down
mental parrot
I mean so far substance manages just fine with 980ti, so I'm not too worried about that lol
It's mainly UE that murders it 
frank glade
well I would try to get 12gb + of vram
mental parrot
So far 3080 12gb is 2k$
frank glade
the specs for the UE5 city sample
unborn pike
I think I got my 3090 for 2400 euros 😰
waiting for a year for my 3080 pissed me off so I just bought the best next thing that was immediately available
mental parrot
I bought my 3080 Ti for ~1600USD back in may
Yeah, but where I live... Sadly this is also "good"
I've never seen 3080 for less than this, same goes for 6900
blazing shard
Should I go get a $700 ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti from microcenter?
faint creek
its pay to dev again. lol
mental parrot
Should I go get a $700 ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti from microcenter?
Damn that's a good price
Here that thing is 1200 lol
I'd definitely buy it!
blazing shard
I reserved it, will pick it up in a few hours
median marsh
the specs for the UE5 city sample
for the editor project or for a shipping build?
frank glade
for the editor project or for a shipping build?
For the editor, it's in the welcome map 😄
median marsh
wonder how my 3060 will do ;/ (at least it has the necessary VRAM)
frank glade
it's only a 92 gb download 😅
cold harbor
Hi guys, sorry to ask this super general question, but I’m scrolling up and there a ton of info and I’m wondering if there is a sort of FAQ recommended guidelines for hardware specs that work with ue5. I previously did all my cg work on a blinged out company computer running linux, but now i’m on a macbook pro and ue seems to really chug. My new company is just dipping their toes into unreal and looking into buying new hardware, and so I’m looking for recs and wisdom..
was looking at this link if this seems like a good guideline: https://www.cgdirector.com/unreal-engine-system-requirements/
also, I see there are linux and macos channels here, not sure about windows. I don’t know enough unreal to know sort of the pros and cons of how ppl feel working with it in different OSs
thanks in advance, and i hope that’s not too obnoxiously general to ask or if it’s better meant for a different channel 😬 feel free to tell me to go elsewhere, thank you thank you!
foggy rampart
Hi, so how many FPS do you guys have in 3rd Person Template Project on Medium Scalability?
storm plank
Rx 6500xt enough for ue5?
foggy rampart
I have gtx 970 4GB, and ~40FPS
@storm plank not really, 6GB I think is the minimal value
blazing shard
Well upgrading from a 970 to a 3070 ti made a huge difference
median marsh
who would have guessed 😄
congratulations to your new GPU 🙂
now you can play quake rtx
blazing shard
I think I went from 720p20 fps on Lyra with high scalablity lumen, TSR off, VSM off to 1440p60 with everything on epic, nothing disabled, hardware accelerated lumen. Which is much more than 2.5x performance upgrade on paper
That's like 12x just going off frame rate and resolution
median marsh
oO idk how you did that math, but ok
first of all 1440p is four times 720p, then 60fps is 3 times 20fps
so i'm already at 12 times faster 😛
median marsh
oh i was somehow stuck on your 2.5x, my bad
storm plank
So, I want the conclusion. Which is the best 500$ card to run unreal engine 5
blazing shard
So, I want the conclusion. Which is the best 500$ card to run unreal engine 5
GeForce RTX 3060 12GB for $470?
mental parrot
Well, I found 3080 10gb for $1400 which for where I live is great so I ordered it
Will sell my 980ti for $300-$400 so it's going to offset some of the price
blazing shard
I might just sell my 970 for $75 just to get rid of it
robust parrot
I have my 970 still. A fan broke a few years ago but I was able to buy a replacement fan and fix it. It’s still going… might have to put it away soon. Poor fella
frank glade
mine broke a few years ago...good old times, bought it for 300$ new 😆
blazing shard
It's surprising how heavy a terabyte worth of RAM is
north arch
very few people know that from experience
Did you know microsd cards tend to be worth more than their weight in gold? I propose we switch from fiat currency to one secured by microsd cards.
thorny basalt
Hi, anyone have experience in comparison of editor performance (no light baking, no code compile for me) between threadripper1950x vs i7-12700k ? Single core seems 2x although multi is similar. I think about upgrading as I want single core performance but not sure is it stupid plan and will it help at all (the rest of setup is 2080ti+128-2666mhz+980proNvme and the ram for i7 would be ddr4-3600).
fallen oasis
If you want single core performance, I'd go with the i7.
restive junco
placid rivet
Do you guys think 32GB DDR5 4800 MHz is enough for unreal engine 5?
It says in the docs that 8GB is "recommended" but I don't know how much I can trust that
tired kelp
probably more than you can trust an opinion of a random discord user
placid rivet
lmao
it's just that I'm about to make an important decision and I have no one to consult with so I thought asking here would be wise
blazing shard
Epic themselves uses 64 gb for their target workstations, and mentions recommending 32 gb as well so they aren't super consistent
placid rivet
yeah.. it's kind of confusing
blazing shard
Personally I'd go for 32gb with room to upgrade to 64gb
I have 16gb and constantly maxing it out
restive junco
they give an example of what their average rigs are, and recommended minimum specs, hitting somewhere between the two with a goal to reach or surpass their rigs if your budget allows for it, would likely be the ideal spot
cold harbor
catching up on the conversation, thanks and thanks everyone for all the information. i might have followup questions but I will digest this for now.
tired kelp
Epic themselves uses 64 gb for their target workstations, and mentions recommend...
I don't see that as being inconsistent. devs working with the engine typically run multiple applications at once
however not everyone needs to run a DCC tool next to the engine at all times
median marsh
Hi, anyone have experience in comparison of editor performance (no light baking,...
in my experience the amount of memory is important for light baking, had scenes which need >70GB for light baking
so if you don't have enough memory, it starts to swap on your disk, which makes the whole bake process painful slow
fallen oasis
I upgraded from 32 because compiling killed my ram.
thorny basalt
in my experience the amount of memory is important for light baking, had scenes ...
Thanks, although if it wasn’t clear I’m on 128gb and that’s a minimum for me as some Houdini sims are involved
nova moss
I use 32GB now, will upgrade more in future
dawn surge
fallen oasis
Not cursor position. Flickering!
fallen oasis
Lol
fallen oasis
I updated to latest amd drivers, btw, and still get the flickering/not rendering shapes
floral imp
Im looking for a laptop that can run Unreal 5 well, since my current laptop is starting to sturggle. Do you think these specs are good enough to run unreal 5 smoothly (especially with lumen and nanite)? AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz - 32 GB RAM - 1 TB SSD NVMe - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
the GPU is the mobile version ofc
Im asking because I thought my current laptop would be able to run UE5 well and I dont wanna be wrong again
median marsh
nanite will work fine, lumen no idea
and all of this can change as they are still in an early phase, even if there was a UE5 release
astral musk
kinda depends on how much you are trying to do
I have a 3090 and the Matrix city demo makes it struggle in places.
floral imp
Hmmm I found one with a RTX 3070 mobile too
Its cheaper but only 16 GB of ram, so Id need to upgrade the ram
astral musk
depending on the brand of laptop. thats usually easy
floral imp
Desktop is much better than laptop versions
storm plank
the GPU is the mobile version ofc
If you are getting such a high end AMD processor than it depends on what work will you do. Your pc is still very great for unreal engine 5, even gtx 1060 can run ue5 on 1080p cinematic
fallen oasis
Does it have to be a laptop?
floral imp
Does it have to be a laptop?
Yeah unfortunately
floral imp
If you are getting such a high end AMD processor than it depends on what work wi...
Right now I have an i7 so the processor
isn't that much of an upgrade but the gpu is lagging behind a bit for higher graphical settings
fallen oasis
That's one of the issues with laptops. Hard to upgrade, except like memory and hd.
storm plank
Right now I have an i7 so the processor
isn't that much of an upgrade but the g...
You should still stay with what you have because rtx 4000 series is said to be launching this year and buying a GPU almost 3 times it's MSRP is very dumb. I would recommend you to wait for sometime
floral imp
Yeah but those new laptops will be more expensive too, I can sell my current laptop to recoup a bit of cost, and this laptop also has a better screen
Decided to go with an RTX 3070, because its 8GB vs 6GB VRam
There is always a better laptop coming later in the year hehe (and wont have any discounts like these have now)
Also, usually takes a while for the laptops to be widely available here from my experience
frank glade
You should still stay with what you have because rtx 4000 series is said to be l...
3000 series are very close to msrp, it's the best time to buy now, because 4000 series would be very expensive, and you can totally recoup the costs by the speed improvement you'll have for 1-2 years
tired kelp
people buy graphics cards every 1-2 years?! 🤔
floral imp
You cant buy a GPU for a laptop
So in this case im buying a laptop
Wish you could tho
fallen oasis
You can buy a shitty laptop and then a good pc. Then remote into it.
tired kelp
You cant buy a GPU for a laptop
used to be you could for some high end laptops? I dunno if that's the case anymore though
floral imp
You can buy a shitty laptop and then a good pc. Then remote into it.
Thought about this too yes, but I dont wanna be dependant on internet connection to work since Ill be doing a lot at home and at school/library etc
floral imp
used to be you could for some high end laptops? I dunno if that's the case anymo...
I think it is, but thats really a level above this price wise
Alright I made up my mind imma buy it
Theres a 30 day money back period if I regret it tomorrow lol
fallen oasis
Nice!
fallen oasis
What does that give you?
floral imp
Better build quality, less weigth, and less of a gamer laptop look (and more rgb decorations but idc about that too much since I always use blue only)
Better trackpad
But usually the price difference is about 300 euros which 100% would not be worth it
and better cooling
fallen oasis
Doesn't sounds worth 150 euros for a better trackpad.
floral imp
Yeah honestly, its would be for the gamer look hehe
Left is the 7, right is the 5pro
I dont like that Y at all
But 150 euros is a lot of money for style :/
tired kelp
I need better friends then
fallen oasis
But 150 euros is a lot of money for style :/
Style means jack. Your friends aren't going to be impressed. You won't find a girlfriend becuase you had a slightly better looking laptop.
mighty cosmos
3000 series are very close to msrp, it's the best time to buy now, because 4000 ...
3080 is still 1500$ here 😐
frank glade
3080 is still 1500$ here 😐
https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-12g-p5-4877-kl/p/N82E16814487553 prices are becoming crazy low now 😅 AND in stock
mighty cosmos
I wish it was 1k$ here
At the moment that sounds cheap considering how ridiculous the prices are where I live lol
idle elk
u dont even get a 3070 for 1k€ over here
fallen oasis
I'll just leave this here 1>[6050/6050] WriteMetadata UnrealEditor-Win64-Debug.target 1>Total time in Parallel executor: 867.50 seconds 1>Total execution time: 937.66 seconds ========== Rebuild All: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 skipped ==========
median marsh
threadripper?
fallen oasis
Yeah. 3975
median marsh
crazy tech
median marsh
indeed, guess they only really pay off if you need more than 128gb memory (well, or the ton of pci ex lanes that the threadripper offers :D)
otherwise 5950x seems way more affordable
fallen oasis
Yeah.
primal onyx
Left is the 7, right is the 5pro
7 is much better I'm currently debating if i should get that or the razer
the 7 is packed with rgb
It's also got much better cooling as far as am aware
floral imp
fallen oasis
Looks neat!
storm plank
If you have any questions let me know
Can this run unreal engine 5?
floral imp
I opened it up this afternoon and it seemed fine but I had to go to work
I'll test it more elaborataly tomorrow and let you know
mighty patrol
Likely not amd seems to skip a gen for mobiles but its a possibility
mighty patrol
Agreed
river monolith
Hi,
Iwant tu buy a computer. Wich is better for Unreal 5?
dusty anchor
river monolith
)))
I9 11900 KF will not affect the performance?
fallen oasis
KF will mean no motherboard hdmi output
river monolith
Thnx
restive bough
Also MSRP for GPU's are MSRP if u dig enough and is in the right places so u may find worth in building one
fallen oasis
50:50. Also, win11 :/
restive bough
But 3090 has alot of bandwidth in something can't remember but it should fit the workflow
fallen oasis
Is it really that bad compared to the 12th gen?
restive bough
12 gen was a huge leap for intel
restive bough
12 gen power hungry tho
fallen oasis
Kawai-E cores!
restive bough
Feel u but these prebuilds is schetchy sometimes cus sometimes the fan curve is dumb af and PC case dumbo.
They don't talk about thermals ):
The prebuild market itself is sketchy
terse lynx
Would The Razer Blade 17 Laptop be good enough to run unreal engine 5 with like minimum to no issues?
terse lynx
also, would this one be better? https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/laptops/15-special-edition/spd/g-series-15-5511-se-laptop
storm plank
Yes it will surely run it and you should also buy a cooling pad
kind shore
Might have been already asked, but does anyone know whenever the Ryzen 7 5800X3D is also good for game development rather than only for gaming ?
terse lynx
@storm plank which one? and also will it run good or just meh
storm plank
I would recommend you to go with Razer blade
restive harbor
Does anyone dev on IPS panels and have any feedback on how good dark IDEs do? Considering getting the ultra wide LG 34GP83A-B vs dell 3422 and love my current 2716 16:9.
terse lynx
I would recommend you to go with Razer blade
would the dell g15 run ue5 good though?
Cause i might get Dell g15 because of the price
prime loom
Does anyone know when the 4th gen threadrippers are supposed to start being sold?
Trying to work out if I should just buy a 3960X or wait till the newer ones are out.
magic bison
RealityCapture has me running on all cylinders
I included chrome still taking up more ram while the other one just destroys all the cores because I thought it was funny
restive bough
Does anyone know when the 4th gen threadrippers are supposed to start being sold...
One thing that we know is that AMD won't give em too the public market and more send them too companies for servers and etc. But if ue lucky u might get one on a non consumer market but I'm unsure how compatible software will be. I don't really know sure I don't know too much but hopefully AMD releases it to the high end consumer market
But the next gen consumer things could be better than 3d gen threadrippers and save alot of buck.
restive bough
Does anyone know when the 4th gen threadrippers are supposed to start being sold...
I might be wrong
storm plank
I found threadripper 1900x cheaper than core i3. But can the threadripper 1900x run unreal engine 5
frank glade
I think you should get at least 32gb of ram, and 10gb or 12gb for the vram
also, wouldn't it be cheaper to build one yourself?
terse lynx
idk ive never built one before im only 13 so i just dont wanna get into that
lol
and btw about the ram would the middle one be good
The left is the og
minor tulip
Hi!
Might be hardware related or some Windows issue, someone here might know the answer.
terse lynx
why
have any reccomendations for a prebuilt then? i mainly just wanna work in ue5 with no issues
ok
mk i just have no clue what parts, compatibility, like how to even get started lol it just feels like a big hassle idk
ok
thanks for the help lol
yeah my price range is like 2500 - 3000 max rn so its hard to get good parts, and i need a keyboard mouse desk etc.
so is just any graphics card just compatible with any pc?
or anything like that
terse lynx
k
Im Officialy (i think! so not really officialy) getting the standard unreal pudget prebuilt pc - https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Unreal-Engine-200/Buy_285
fresh fog
I found threadripper 1900x cheaper than core i3. But can the threadripper 1900x ...
FWIW threadripper mobos are expensive, and theyre workstation cpus so if you plan on using the computer for games n stuff as well youre gonna have a bad time
median marsh
smol*
is that price with screen and all the stuff? because it looks kinda expensive tbh
also that mobo is quite overkill imho
asus rog-strix with X570 should be sufficient and is ~$150 cheaper
honestly, wouldn't buy there 😄
remove that slow 500gb secondary SSD - $110
set primary to 1TB instead of 500gb + $85
why do they even consider the secondary in the first place, its slower and costs more overall
hushed cloud
Can we solicit sales of hardware here?
fallen oasis
Are you selling hardware?
hushed cloud
Are you selling hardware?
Yes
Not like as a business just one item I don't need at the moment that someone else may want.
fallen oasis
I've no idea if it's against the rules or not, tbh.
north arch
I can recommend a nice $100ish desk off amazon, glass corner desk with plenty of room
add some dry-erase markers and jot notes on the glass surface, which removes easily for washing
my only complaints are keyboard tray's not wide enough for a mouse too and it sits a little far back and up for a tall keyboard
north arch
not sure I'd cheap out on the part that enables communication with the other parts
terse lynx
any case reccomendations?
gilded river
Hey guys, need help with buying a PC for UE5 for film and animation purposes.
I am in-between picking two different pre-built PCs. They are both priced the same at $3699 Australian dollar (which is about $2725 USD).
First option; AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8 Core, AMD B550 Chipset, GeForce RTX 3080 10GB, 32GB 3200MHz RAM, 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD, 2TB HDD, Corsair iCue 465X RGB Case, 850W PSU, Win 10 Home
Second option; Intel Core i7 12700KF 12 Core, Z690 Chipset, GeForce RTX 3080 10GB, 32GB 3200MHz RAM, 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD, 2TB HDD, Fractal Design Case, 850W PSU, Win 10 Home
I do have a third option to build my own PC, but i am not sure what i would change, add or deduct but happy to hear your thoughts?
median marsh
850W PSU is overkill nvm, wasn't aware that 3080 takes up to 400W....
jolly elk
I'm just here for me semi-annual "are GPU prices sane again yet?" Ping.
gilded river
I've been recommended to up the PSU to 1000W because 3080 have occasional spikes in power consumptions
median marsh
850W should be ok if it's not crap
frank glade
@jolly elk supposedly only 10% over MSRP
frank glade
idk that's what they say https://www.techspot.com/news/94242-graphics-cards-now-within-12-msrp.html
wind egret
The new normal is still more than pre-2020 prices, but if that could ever happen it probably won't be before the next gen of cards show up.
pallid flume
when my laptop comes under load from games, the power light indicator flashes and FPS tanks... Any thoughts?
median marsh
probably overheating
north arch
is it a factory power brick or after market?
idle elk
so ive got a laptop with 16gb of ram half of which is soldered onto the motherboard
does me putting in a new 32gb stick besides the one soldered onto the motherboard change anything
im not too sure how does this stuff work when it comes to laptops
both would have the same frequency
idle elk
obviously yeah
i was talking about the frequencies
its the asus zephyrus g14 if that helps
slow pewter
hardware guys help me out here : i have a 10400 i5 currently using the iGPU and am planning on getting a gpu soon once the prices drop a bit more (they have been steadily dropping in my country for the past few months) so I'm stuck between 1660 super and 3050. I know 3050 has the benefit of DLSS so I'm leaning towards that but which one would be better for game dev (im only a beginner so I don't know)
Planning on making my own models and stuff in blender too btw
thanks mate
median marsh
save and get a 3060
devout pendant
Hello
when I launch UE5, everything just runs slow
the editor
compiler
when I run the game
the game runs slow as well
should I upgrade CPU or GPU
frank glade
What are your specs
devout pendant
I got a 1660 with ryzen 3600
2 8gb 3200 ram
it was installed on a fresh windows 10 on a ssd
what gpu/cpu do you use
frank glade
UE5 was very slow for me on my 1060, no probs after I upgraded that
devout pendant
well when I run the game in both unity and unreal engine
it runs hella slow
could it be a gpu problem
devout pendant
yeah
median marsh
well, depends on what kind of project you are working on
i worked quite a while with a 1660
unborn pike
you have only 16 GB memory?
devout pendant
yeah
unborn pike
you want at least 32
devout pendant
It was a 3d fps shooter
unborn pike
personally I have 64 GB
median marsh
what is most utilized when you open the task manager when everything is slow?
something is probably at 100% bottlenecking everything else
median marsh
well, some browser on their own need 16GB memory 😄
devout pendant
even without browser
it was slow
I tried unity, the editor ran faster but when I played the game
it was slow
but when I ran ue, everything was slow
Could it be a problem with all three components, ram size, cpu and gpu?
median marsh
well it keeps a guessing game unless you figure out what actually is your bottleneck
check the taskmanager ffs.... it tells you everything
median marsh
xD
devout pendant
it could be the ram size
median marsh
it could be the weather
task manager has graphs for GPU / CPU Load and memory usage
what do they say when everything slows down?
devout pendant
it says UE5 is using everything
median marsh
so everything is at 100%?
devout pendant
something like that
median marsh
i can barely believe that
devout pendant
hold up ill post an update in 30mins
median marsh
yea, ping me then, but don't expect an immediate answer
slow pewter
dont keep us in suspense here bud
mighty cosmos
Depends which CPU, 360aios will have trouble keeping normal temps for some CPUs at stock... Looking at you i9 12900k and almost 5950x...
median marsh
overclocking and extended period of time sounds like contraproductive
well, i get ~75°C at 100% on 5950x with traditional air cooling...
when the room is at ~20°C
mighty cosmos
Around 65C for me at full load with a 360aio
But around 75c when a single core is under load and boosting
There are some air coolers that perform as good or even better than an aio
But an AIO looks cooler... Might have or might have not been the reason why I switched to it 😅
fallen oasis
So I've ended up with a 6800 xt oc and a 3080 ti in this machine. What can go wrong, right?!
median marsh
median marsh
But an AIO looks cooler... Might have or might have not been the reason why I sw...
indeed, i'm just too scared of water + electronics
unless theres some coolant which doesn't conduct
fallen oasis
Needs more de-ionised water. Or that non-electricity conducting oil stuff.
That's definitely not true
fallen oasis
https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396
Was that at me?
median marsh
yes
fallen oasis
Well I got a new system and my monitor didn't support gsync (only freesync) so I got an amd card. Then my amd card had massive issues with a specific part of ue5, so my employer bought me a 3080 ti to fix it.
median marsh
wait, doesn't nvidia support freesync?
fallen oasis
No. Monitors support both gsync and freesync generally.
I just happen to have one that doesn't.
median marsh
well, gsync needs extra hardware
and nvidia supports adaptive sync which is freesync
since 417.17 / GTX1050
fallen oasis
Except on my old nvidia card, it didn't support my monitor, which is freesync.
And it was later than that.
In fact, I'll see if it's working with this one..
median marsh
However, there are limitations to this decision.
Firstly, only GeForce 10 and 20 series graphics cards support this feature.
Secondly, you should connect the GPU to the monitor through the display port only, meaning you can’t use HDMI or DVI ports to connect to your FreeSync monitor.
Lastly, you’ll need to install the 417.71 version of Nvidia drivers or later.
so it only works on DisplayPort apparently
fallen oasis
It's connected via displayport
I've set up gsync/gsync compatibility in the nvidia control panel, though I can't enable gsync on the nvidia pendulum demo, I guess that's expected.
Seems to be tear-free with vsync on, though.
G-Sync Compatible: G-Sync Compatible monitors are Adaptive sync or FreeSync monitors that Nvidia has certified for use with their GPUs.
My monitor is not certified.
Since there aren’t many G-Sync Compatible monitors, users wonder if they can hook up a non-certified FreeSync monitor to their Nvidia graphics card.
As Nvidia says, “It may work, it may work partly, or it may not work at all.”
mighty cosmos
There are some that perform as good as a 360aio
Like dark pro 4
empty prairie
I am upgrading ram from 16gb to 32. and had a few questions for developing with unreal if anyone knows.
- any difference in performance between 2x16gb and 4x8gb?
- do ram timings have much of an effect?
- any recommended sticks? right now I am looking at these (i dont care about RGB) https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/w3FKHx,vd6qqs,XJVG3C,gqkgXL/
foggy holly
I recommend these,I bought it for 90€ https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/32GB-G-Skill-Aegis-DDR4-3200-DIMM-CL16-Dual-Kit_1332101.html
fallen oasis
Everything about ram will offer improvements, it's just a matter of where the bottleneck is.
I do remember reading that more sticks is better than fewer sticks, but that was many years ago.
But there must be a reason people offer 4x packs.
median marsh
even when you have exactly matching sticks?
empty prairie
so match number of sticks to number of channels
idle elk
there shouldnt rly be a difference in performance in your case
u would go 2x16 bc it offers u to upgrade in the future
tired kelp
I'm looking for a set of speakers that don't take up too much space and ideally have built in subwoofers
anyone know of any?
blazing pewter
I'm looking for a set of speakers that don't take up too much space and ideally ...
Check out the new razer soundbar
grand pulsar
also if you do go with logitech and are/was a student then you can get a college discount
like 30% off and coupons can stack. Their discounts were really broken at one point. I got a G29 for like $120 lol
tired kelp
lmao I haven't been a student for a decade
but thanks
the soundbar does seem to come with a separate subwoofer 😔
north arch
lmao I haven't been a student for a decade
take a class at the local community college for $30
tired kelp
I'm not in the US
grand pulsar
ah
north arch
move for discount
whole nova
I'm looking into a PC upgrade and thinking of going for Ryzen 7/9. My i7 4790 has served me well and still works fine when I do webdev stuff but its really starting to not cut it, especially with UE5. Is there any place I can find UE-specific or analogous benchmarks?
Like one of the things I'm weighing in my head is whether to go for a 8/12/16 core and what difference that would realistically amount to. I'm also thinking of getting an 6 core then upgrading to 12/16 down the road since right now I have to buy pretty much a new everything except GPU.
whole nova
Thanks
median marsh
i would either go top notch ryzen9 or intel 12 series
5900x probably has the best value/price ratio on the ryzens, unless you do a lot of c++/shader stuff (then 5950x)
but even with a bunch of c++ stuff you are fine with a 5900x
whole nova
I do a lot of c++ stuff, not so much shaders.
median marsh
usually you don't recompile 100 big classes, for me it's mostly 3-4 jobs, which even a 4th gen i7 could handle fine 😄
whole nova
Yeah that parts not so bad for me, sometimes I wish the editor would open a little faster from rider but that's about it.
median marsh
if your workload is compiling chromium and firefox all the time^
devout pendant
Thoughts on Computer case on metal filing cabinet? It absorbs heat, kind of like a heatsink , but then that heat has to rise. I'm thinking it's a bad idea for cooling cause the heat has to rise again,; however it does disperse through the filing cabinet
median marsh
in or on?
frank glade
@tired kelp get something from Edifier, surprisingly good, classic looks
tired kelp
<@224571781862653952> get something from Edifier, surprisingly good, classic loo...
those are huge. the main point is that the speakers should be small and have a decent bass (woof or no woof)
tired kelp
Thoughts on Computer case on metal filing cabinet? It absorbs heat, kind of like...
good air flow or water cooling will make a bigger difference than your case
frank glade
my edifiers were cheap 😅 like 60-70 USD
storm reef
what is the minimum components that you need to have to start working in ue5 and what is your recommandation?
fallen oasis
16gb ram, 8+ core cpu, 500gb of free ssd space, a high end gfx card - would be a good starting point.
About half that for a minimum spec.
Double that for approaching ideal.
whole night
I use https://www.notebookcheck.net/. Search for gpus, and then compare their benchmarks. Not the easiest way, but I trust them. Or i just youtube gpu comparison videos lol
storm plank
Which cheap laptop can run ue5 under 1300$
storm reef
based on what Daekesh said, i recommand this laptop, but are many more good laptops on the market
median marsh
that's the bare minimum...
for unreal, and nothing else then, with 512GB ssd
4gb video memory is also on the lower spectrum
i wouldn't recommend that laptop for UE @storm reef
at least not the configuration that you linked
storm plank
at least not the configuration that you linked
Can you tell me then
fallen oasis
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Display-Processor-GeForce-82JW0012US/dp/B08YKG5K7F...
I wouldn't recommend going below what I said was a good starting point, in any part of the spec.
You probably want at least 8gb (maaaaaaaaybe 6gb) or vram. Depends if you wanna run large maps or not.
marsh rover
You probably want at least 8gb (maaaaaaaaybe 6gb) or vram. Depends if you wanna ...
Honestly I have 6 and I struggle a bit, and considering changing a graphic card is almost as expensive as buying a new PC, maybe better saving on something else and go for 8 VRAM already.
median marsh
yea, 6GB VRAM didn't cut it for me either...
specially if you want to work on stuff in blender, etc. parallel
north vine
My poor 1660ti agrees
storm plank
Umm I just want to know which laptop should I go with since I am a student and I am not going to run those large maps or heavy games in ue5. Just som laptop which can help me get started with ue5 with the budget of 1300$
frank glade
maybe something like an asus tuf with a 3060 maybe a 3070 if you score a deal?
storm plank
You know many students like me are there on this server who can't afford expensive lappys
frank glade
Zephyrus g14 with a 3060 is about 1200 usd here, so is the tuf dash f15
storm plank
Oh thanks
frank glade
How about Keychron
Keychron k10 is the only 100% one I think and the matched wrist pad
I have a smaller one, very solid
I think they have a version with hot swappable switches and you can upgrade as you want
I used to have a Logitech g610, very cool BUT, the keycaps were wearing off, both the finish and the lettering, and it died after some keys stopped working
solid atlas
hello i am looking for a laptop with a budget of 2500 euro however im not sure what to take is there any one that can give me specific advice (used for unreal engine 5 with in mind of big projects)
north arch
a proper workstation at home with good internet and something to connect via remote desktop or similar
solid atlas
any suggestions?
fallen oasis
I wish I could turn off the lights on my heatsink fans.
My mobo doesn't have a fan controller port and I cba how to find out how to do it without that. 😛
devout pendant
does anybody know why my gpu shows no signal after post/mobo screen?
the only way ican get it to show a display signal is by wiggling the GPU
and possibly resetting the PC
i think it may have to do with loose/missing standoffs on my mobo. not enough support
even though its always vertical
and the gpu hangs horizontally
fallen oasis
...wiggling the gpu?
I'd suggest removing the gpu and putting it back in. Properly.
(aka reseating)
devout pendant
(aka reseating)
i do that
it helps
but its too cumbersome doing that every time i start up my pc
fallen oasis
Is it screwed in properly?
Is the pci-e clip broken?
Have you tried leaving your pc on its side?
median marsh
when shit hits the fan
strong leaf
Hey guys if I have $2k to build a computer to run UE dev what would you guys suggest for a really good processor?
I current processor is a A10-5800 quad core…takes forever to compile, package etc.
And I’m losing a ton of time trying to work on projects
grand pulsar
it helps to check pcpartpicker for builds around your budget
see what you'd swap, etc
median marsh
also, should that build also include a new GPU? because they can totally shift the budget
final mortar
cpu is more important tbh, but if you want to preview things on high, epic or cinematic, then gpu is also important. Get a lot of cores, right now i9 is a good bet for a consumer budget. If you can afford a Threadripper, this will be the best, but it's super pricey
Ryzen 5xxx is great as well if you prefer amd but atm Intel's got a small leg up imho
I got an i9 12900k (right before KS launched sadly) I'm really happy with it for unreal dev
builds the whole engine from scratch in 1 hour. A Threadripper brings that down to 30m (this only matters if you need to build the engine from source though)
fallen oasis
builds the whole engine from scratch in 1 hour. A Threadripper brings that down ...
I build the entire engine on a TR in 12 minutes.
Well, the 3600 or so actions it usually takes.
1>Total time in Parallel executor: 867.50 seconds
1>Total execution time: 937.66 seconds
========== Rebuild All: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 skipped ==========``` This was a full engine rebuild (not based on project)The state of my network set up right now
storm plank
🤣
cloud fiber
Ye I don't have the key to unlock the fiber cable so I gotta let it hang there
snow coral
Not a professional in pc hardware, but isnt this gpus performance similar to a 3070?
gleaming stone
Not a professional in pc hardware, but isnt this gpus performance similar to a 3...
inn raster yes, in ray tracing, prob not even close tbh. my powercolor 6900xt only gets about 10fps more than my friends pny 3070 in port royal benchmark, but doubles his fps in timespy.
snow coral
good to know
fallen oasis
The state of my network set up right now
I have something similar in a cupboard actually...
round aspen
How much more important is VRAM than overall performance for Unreal? Would a RX6700XT/RX6800 make more sense than an RTX3070 simply because of the higher VRAM (12GB/16GB vs 8GB)?
fallen oasis
8gb is like entry level.
round aspen
Got it, thanks 👍
hallow token
I'm in the market for a new monitor to develop in UE5... anyone have any solid recommendations?
cloud fiber
I have something similar in a cupboard actually...
You living in my house now?
fallen oasis
If only!
serene vale
I'm in the market for a new monitor to develop in UE5... anyone have any solid r...
You need at least 3
cloud fiber
i disagree, especially since ue5 introduces collapsible windows/drawers. definitely has less footprint than ue4
oh
fair enough i guess
errant peak
I'm in the market for a new monitor to develop in UE5... anyone have any solid r...
If you have access to one, Costco has generally decent monitors for about the cheapest you'll find anywhere.
cloud fiber
but i need ips 1440p 144hz ultrawide to run the editor
desert vector
Hey all, looking to get myself a laptop that I can take with me on the go that can work on Unreal projects like on flights, etc. I'm not looking to do anything graphic intensive, my main concern is battery power, screen size and weight in that order. Anyone have any good suggestions they've found? I'd love to get something that could go for at least 8 hours on a battery charge, but I'm not sure how possible that is with UE.
MOney's not really a concern, would love to keep it under 2k Canadian.
desert vector
I guess the battery life would be "Longer than 1 hour" lol
My current 5 year old dell runs it just fine, but it drains battery in about 1.5 hours
And that's with a new battery
And what I mean is I can go more, but keeping it under 2k is most ideal.
That said, I'm willing to fork out for something better as I can use it for my day job as well
Pretty beefy laptop. It's weird, because again - my current non-gaming laptop runs the editor fine, so long as I'm doing low graphics fidelity stuff. If I was able to get the battery to last longer, I'd be fine with it as is lol.
placid obsidian
Hello, sorry if this is unrelated but would someone with experience in computer specs be able to tell me if a laptop I'm looking at is good enough to run UE and other 3d software? Thanks
I was planning to explain more in detail if someone was willing to help haha
So basically I know nothing about computer specs. And I'm a student with a dying pc so I'm looking to replace it with a laptop for portability. What I want from it is to be able to run Maya, Zbrush, substance, UE5 smoothly and hopefully at the same time without slowing down. But I know nothing about specs, so I asked some people on a pc building server and they recommended this
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=710_4419_4428&item_id=212033
But, it says this is a gaming laptop and i thought it would be best to ask in a server with people who use their computers for 3D tasks. I would only use this for 3D and not for gaming
So I just wanna know if this is good enough to run all these softwares without slowing down
placid obsidian
So I just wanna know if this is good enough to run all these softwares without s...
And multi-tasking them
What do you mean by basic UE? And what about Maya, substance, Zbrush?
How basic*
Oh. I only plan on using UE to create my own games and showcase scenes
Not anything as advanced as matrix
That's CAD btw
If I share a dxdiag of my university computer would you be able to tell how it compares?
I'm not at Uni right now. I just took these before because I knew I'd be asking for some help eventually
Oops sent in the wrong channel
That's the school computer
I'm guessing the laptop isn't nearly as good? Or how does it compare
Oh?
I'm already able to Multi task on the school computer so I don't think I need to overkill with 64 lol
Also I think tabs stop taking up ram when they aren't the active tab
In what sense? So will the laptop not run these 3d apps as smoothly?
Do you have any laptop recommendations that have 32?
I'm still considering just getting a pc. I think the main reason I want a laptop is because of portability
Do you have a recommendation for pc then?
Prebuilt I mean
I think the laptop is fine if you're saying it's better than my school pc in every aspect except ram
Because my school computer runs everything very smoothly. And my current home pc has 16gb ram and was ok for my needs. I usually have 2 softwares open at once
Easily with very big projects?
Or in general
Is that my school computer specs?
So the only thing lacking in the laptop is ram. But everything else is more than enough, correct?
Because I think I can expand the laptops ram to 32
I know but I watched a few reviews before asking on here and they mentioned you can on this one
But everything besides ram is solid?
storm plank
Yes if you can get a 6gb vram gpu and very good processor
Also make sure ram is not soldered
placid obsidian
Yes if you can get a 6gb vram gpu and very good processor
So the processor that comes with it isn't good enough? Also what's vram
Sorry for my ignorance
north arch
vram is video ram, like an 8GB 670 or a 16GB 3090
placid obsidian
Oh. So all of that stuff that comes inside the laptop isn't good enough and should be replaced?
north arch
you really can't upgrade gpu or vram or cpu on most laptops
placid obsidian
But are those good? The ones that already come included
north arch
no clue, didn't backscroll and don't really know dev hardware
placid obsidian
Right. But what I was asking is if everything else was solid
Besides ram
You said that's a solid machine, about my university computer
Or were you talking about the laptop
A yes/no would have been efficient..
I assumed everything was solid and good except ram, but then other people were saying I should look into a better processor and vram
Which I can't replace on the laptop
So the processor is good enough then? One thing that I noticed is that on my current pc it always reaches 100 so that's the main issue for me, over ram
This is just confusing for me because I can only rely on what people say, I don't know anything about specs
placid obsidian
So the processor is good enough then? One thing that I noticed is that on my cur...
Also my current pc isn't the one I shared the diagnostics of
And another confusing thing is that you said it's better than my school computer, but after that you said that desktop hardware is better than laptop hardware. So I can't tell if you're saying in the end that this desktop is equal/better or if that's a separate statement unrelated to your previous comparison
It's a lot of potatoes to process :/
Thank you.
(Batteries not included)
devout osprey
Suggest me CPU and GPU combo plz. Guys my usage is mostly UE5 (I'm a game designer) and valorant + league of legends plus some other AAA game when they are released.
fallen oasis
5950 and a 3090?
frank glade
12700kf and 3060 12gb
devout osprey
5950 and a 3090?
5950 what is that ?
devout osprey
12700kf and 3060 12gb
intel 12700 right ?
fresh fog
Are threadrippers any good for pure ue and blender stuff?
No idea how the lower end threadrippers do compared to similar prices non workstation cpus
fallen oasis
I have a 3975 and it's pretty fantastic.
median marsh
No idea how the lower end threadrippers do compared to similar prices non workst...
well some of them are probably slower than an 5800x, etc. their main benefit is that they support more memory, quad+ channel memory and have way more pci-ex lanes
sick lava
hello~
I wanted to ask and didn't know where else to go
I'm having some keyboard problems, as in the lower half of it just stops working (shift,z,x,c... until the arrow keys)
it happens sporadically, with no apparent cause. Then suddenly it works again, like how I could type this message.
Not sure what to do, could anyone help me?
fallen oasis
the boards for em are hella pricey too
Yeah, luckily I got mine like 40% off because it was damaged. Not damaged enough for me to care, though!
fallen oasis
hello~
I wanted to ask and didn't know where else to go
I'm having some keyboard...
Clean your keyboard or buy another keyboard.
sick lava
Clean your keyboard or buy another keyboard.
and i'm not sure cleaning it will do good, cuz it's not like the buttons are stuck
north arch
cable is probably coming unseated
could get an external one or unplug/replug it or learn to type with alt+keypad
which involves opening the laptop
keen lava
I'm thinking of upgrading my CPU to a 5800x.
minor veldt
and i'm not sure cleaning it will do good, cuz it's not like the buttons are stu...
Still worth a try, has helped me a similar situation. Grab a can of compressed air, hold the keyboard up-side-down and give it a good breeze.
Crap, from what I've heard. Assuming "rt" is short for ray-tracing here.
unborn pike
ya I think so
fallen oasis
ya I think so
I'm glad it's not just me that sees that.
agile lodge
as StarWars Day this is my old Razer NAGA what is SWTOR licenced
velvet locust
hey all, maybe weird question. Did someone do some performance testing for low spec target machines in a VM? Did it work?
median marsh
that sounds like a better solution^
but honestly if you have some benchmarks, you can most likely conclude from them how it runs on lower tier hardware
median marsh
but downclocking is kinda the same
you still get the throughput of DDR5, pciex4, etc. (on a modern alder lake)
yea, for reliable results i would pick some game testers with different hardware
proud galleon
So i'm wanting to get into using UE5 but currently I'm using an average, run of the mill HP latop and are afraid that it won't be powerful to let me develop games on UE5. I'm looking at this but don't know exactly is the best option
velvet locust
I'm not looking to optimize the game for the target machine in the end, only figuring out what we can generally do with our basic setup to be able to optimize for the target low spec machines. For example, how does a general mix with dynamic lighting and nanite behave on a machine that's not our dev machine. Can we get it running there or do we need to go back to CSM and classical LODs for performance reasons? Those are the questions I want to answer. For example, if we need baked lighting we also need lightmap UVs and can't use world partition. No world partition means, more manual level streaming/sublevel management, no data layers.
CSM vs VSM would be the easiest difference in this case, especially if we mix in DF shadows
I'll talk to our hardware pro for that. My dev machine is sadly an amd cpu with a RTX3070 gpu, so I can't just deactivate that and go with "internal graphics"
We should have some lower spec laptop with a GTX1060 somewhere and I hope to get that for those tests. It's quite close to our currently defined low spec target
lavish ledge
Has anyone here tried running ue5 on a ryzen 7 5700g with no graphics card?
storm plank
Has anyone here tried running ue5 on a ryzen 7 5700g with no graphics card?
I don't think it's possible
lavish ledge
Oh ok, thanks. I was just wondering because i tried it once on a laptop without dgpu and got some weird orange artifacts even without lumen enabled
But I'll give it a try with this pc and see how it goes
hallow rune
for developing, is it worth getting 3060 for 400$ or trying to get the 3070 for 700$ currnetly
fallen oasis
You want all you can get with UE, really. Depends how much you value $300.
hallow rune
Thanks I'll consider it, I'm getting the Core i7-12700KF, i think it's a good price now
median marsh
3060 has more vram, so depends on what's more important for you
twin knot
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