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minor veldt
spare mango
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What's the other major VR headset besides Oculus Quest? I can't recall

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Nvm

hoary lintel
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Building a new PC for Unreal developing, would you rather go for Ryzen 5950x or Intel i9 12900k?

vivid skiff
fair maple
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I'm (trying) to use ue5 on my gtx 960
does anyone know some affordable gpus for using unreal 5?

median marsh
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depends on your budget

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in my personal experience the gtx1660 works quite well unless you want to do raytracing or a lot of groom stuff

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one of the cheaper cards which has 6gb memory (as vram is important for unreal)

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but honestly they are all overpriced at the moment, i bought mine 2 years ago and it was only 50% of what they sell for now -.-

fair maple
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yeah gtx 1660 now costs almost as much as the rtx 3060ti at msrp

hoary lintel
# vivid skiff Preferrably AMD Ryzen CPUs, you got a lot more cores for cheaper, and it's cruci...

my thoughts as well.
Boss just decided to ask my colleagues as well what they think and there are some massive Intel fanboys there. (Even though im the one working with it, i've already argued that it makes no sense to involve the others but it didnt help)
i dont have anything against one or the other, i just want to get superb performance which was in my opinion AMD
ive just been wondering if there might be any argument for intel that i've missed

median marsh
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ryzen is the end of an platform, intel may be more futureproof for upgrades

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also which performs better for you seem to depend on your workload

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end of day, they seem to be both good cpu's

hoary lintel
median marsh
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there wont be any new AM4 cpus

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next amd gen is AM5 with DDR5/PCIx5

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while intel just started on their new platform

hoary lintel
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hm right didnt think about that, good point

median marsh
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if you care about them^

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there's also workloads where one can profit from faster core speed over higher core count

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so it depends what suits you

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quite a few actually

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a lot of stuff isn't threaded yet

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i just waited half an hour to fix redirectors 😄

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and yesterday a few minutes on LOD generation

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yes probably it is

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thats why i say, they both have their benefits

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if you compile a lot, ryzen is probably better choice

hoary lintel
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yeah ive read that article as well in the morning
it end with a "depends on your work" conclusion, so i wanted to see what others think of it

median marsh
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didn't you actually? 😄

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but iirc you have an alder lake?!

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xD

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yea yea, efficiency cores and higher tdp than ryzen 😛

hoary lintel
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well we work in architecture so we dont develop for a broad audience
basically we'll buy 2 PC's
1 for the client to have in their showroom vor VR and Controller Based "gaming" for People to see their real estates
and the second goes to me so i can have an exact idea of how our work will perform on that system

median marsh
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still 20W more than 5950x

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how comes?

hoary lintel
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it is?

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ive not testet my oculus with my new ryzen 5 at home, seems like there will be a surprise waitng for me ?

median marsh
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but honestly, that sounds more like a mainboard/driver issue

hoary lintel
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i can only find forum threads talking about how much a pain in the a++ it can be to connect with an AMD GPU but we're going for 3080ti anyway
maybe im missing something

median marsh
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see, i was using intel since 25 years... and switched to ryzen with concerns

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but everything just works fine

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but i haven't tried VR, so i can't speak of that

hoary lintel
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ok i've heard a few good arguments now, i'll search for what linus has to say about it but i guess Intel would be the better choice for now, didnt think so at the beginning but im open to admit ive been wrong 😄

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maybe we'll hook up an AC with the i9 like ltt did

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wish that new HP Omen case was available as case alone now, that looked like a sweet solution

crimson flame
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Ryzen works fine with VR and stuff for me, just no thunderbolt

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Although i am on laptop so maybe things are different on desktop

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I hope AMD calls zen 4 r9 the 6969x

mighty cosmos
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I haven't had any issues so far with a 5950x and a Taichi x570 board, might be more of an issue on specific or lower end boards?

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Only problem I had is that the xmp profile didn't just work like it did on Intel

Had to switch the SOC voltage from auto to 0.95V and it worked fine 🤷‍♂️

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Interestingly 0.95 is lower than what auto was setting it to

median marsh
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...

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should i start to rant about ram issues on intel? 😛

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but yea, i think my xmp on amd also doesn't work, but i haven't bothered yet

mighty cosmos
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Could be the same thing like it was on mine, just setting the SOC voltage to 0.95 works fine
Default was set to something like .98

I think auto was setting the voltage too low when booting up which caused issues

median marsh
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that's all related to memory right? because i actually haven't even read up much about XMP

mighty cosmos
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Yeah

median marsh
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i just know for a fact that my memory is adverted with XMP compatibility and that it's now running with 2800 instead of 3600MHz

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because it's probably actually only 2800MHz memory which was tested to perform well at 3600MHz

mighty cosmos
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Yeah mine has a 3200mhz xmp profile but I couldn't get it above 2600-2700mhz without increasing the SOC v

median marsh
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i guess i'll just keep it for later, when i feel i could need an upgrade 😄

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on my 3rd gen i7 i was bored when it was busy with tasks

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on the 5950x it stresses me out to be constantly working because everything wents through 😄

mighty cosmos
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lol

serene flame
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Lots of factors to consider. What CPU, MOBO etc?

median marsh
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what's your current memory configuration?

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2x8GB?

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nvm, the board only got 2 memory slots, so you would have to pick 2x32GB at least

median marsh
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i would check the memory compatibility list of your mainboard

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basically they should work all, but it is what it is...

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and get sure that they don't hit your cpu cooler because some modules are kinda high

mellow galleon
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check your motherboard QVL list and pick any available matching

minor veldt
stoic ore
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Which PC components are a must when you want to develop a big game in unreal engine 5(nanite, lumon, megascans etc)?

median marsh
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a keyboard, a mouse and a monitor

serene scaffold
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and the rest

stoic ore
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Yeah and a mousepad

serene scaffold
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dont forget speakers

wind egret
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Mousepad is not a must.

median marsh
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so that's why i don't progress

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maybe it is

serene scaffold
stoic ore
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Alrigghtt enough enough guys

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On the serious notee

serene scaffold
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cpu, ram, and mobo are a must, gpu also since.. yknow, so that leaves.. hmm well a psu ofc, cooling too, then maybe some ssds..

wind egret
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Basically you need all the components, except for sound/capture cards and other special purpose hardware.

median marsh
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there they list what epic uses

serene scaffold
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keep in mind that LED is not a must 😏

stoic ore
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I will paint my components, no need for LED

serene scaffold
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wouldnt advise painting all of them, but alright, you do you

wind egret
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Gun bluing and christmas lights.

agile haven
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Hi all, I'm planning on getting a new computer soon, and running UE5 is high on my list of priorities.

My wife and I travel for work a lot, so a heavy-duty laptop is a necessity for me.

In my price range, I have a choice between a build that has 32gb of RAM and 1tb SSD, and one that has 16gb of RAM and 2tb SSD.

All other things being equal (graphics, processor, chassis build, etc.) is there a strong justification to pick one of these builds over the other?

serene scaffold
median marsh
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i second this^

agile haven
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How portable are external SSDs? This is something I've literally never looked into.

median marsh
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they are like usb sticks nowadays

agile haven
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Oh whaaaaat?

median marsh
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imagine an NVME ssd in a small usb case

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which exist

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if you know how "Large" an nvme ssd is, you get it

agile haven
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Woah. How much storage is on that?

median marsh
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whatever you can afford 😄

agile haven
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XD

astral musk
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you provide the SSD, so whatever you want

agile haven
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Okay, I guess I should ask: How much should I care about Intel vs AMD processors?

To me, this is just a thing I need, and big numbers/newer are generally better. I know some people have strong opinions, though, so should I care?

median marsh
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however you need usb 3.1 to profit from an NVME, otherwise an external 2,5" ssd is perhaps better in price/value

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specially the big ones >2TB

agile haven
agile haven
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Thanks! That clinches the decision for me.

hoary lintel
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upgrading a cpu on a laptop might not be a concern to have, the way they are built nowadays

hoary lintel
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yeah but that person asked that question with a laptop to buy in mind

stoic ore
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Next year I am going to the university and I need a strong laptop which can run unreal engine 5 where I can build seriously big projects. Does anyone of you know any good laptops?

hoary lintel
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watch LTT How to buy a laptop video as there is no "good" laptop for everybody
generally speaking for that workload you should go for gaming laptops

timber cobalt
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just a thought: how easy to use a computer remotely for gamedev?

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just hitting up anydesk or win built-in remote desktop and do stuff

serene scaffold
timber cobalt
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I mean using a decent but not a powerful notebook to connect to the main pc, that is good enough for gamedev

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my logic is all the calculation would be on the PC and I would only controlling it from somewhere via remote desktop

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of course a decent internet is necessary on both places

serene scaffold
timber cobalt
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I downloaded parsec, and actually it is no so bad

errant peak
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I've done remote work between a desktop and laptop in the same room as a sort of KVM setup. I don't remember which software I used but the latency was really bad if not using a wired connection and sorta bad with a wired connection

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I'm also highly sensitive to latency though

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The typing was probably around 50 to 100ms off, which was just enough to throw off my cadence

timber cobalt
errant peak
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Maybe less. I didn't actually measure the latency, but it was enough to throw me off

timber cobalt
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right now I connected the notebook to my mobile

errant peak
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Nice!

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Might have been the software I had issue with

timber cobalt
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suprising actually

errant peak
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I use my tablet with smart something as a secondary screen and drawing tablet, and it works really well

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It is over USB 3 and directly connected to the computer though

timber cobalt
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ah, yeah, I was thinking about using my ipad for that

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could be really useful and not so expensive like a cintiq :D

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I am happy now with that Parsec as a remote desktop solution. Few times a year I may have to work from a remote location, and I would hate to buy a high end notebook for that days. Also there is no chance I would bring my desktop :D
But that is a cool solution.
And my mobile internet is limited to 10 mbps, and was still fine.

hoary lintel
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we've tried some things in our office like Teamviewer and Anydesk, but they all have these waiting times included now to remind you to pay for their service.
pretty daring of them, cause both their services are slow and the picture quality can degenerate fairly quick. in the sense that in anydesk, all colors are shown falsified

we use parsec now, and its the best remote "Working/gaming" software we've ever used

stoic ore
timber cobalt
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I used Parsec to remote connect to my PC from my Macbook Air. I used mobile data to try how would it work from a different location and it is promising.

spare mango
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PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YBQqqm

CPU: Intel Core i9-10900K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($443.89 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B560 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($165.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card ($676.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *Corsair RMx (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($139.88 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $2004.69

System Builder
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Planning on buying parts after saving for 2 years, budget is 2000

serene scaffold
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you'll have to scrounge for that 4.69 then 😢

serene scaffold
spare mango
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Um what?

serene scaffold
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i think the hard drive is a normal disc, not ssd - i would recommend ssd

median marsh
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and the PSU is way beyond what the system needs

serene scaffold
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was gunna say

median marsh
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you can get along with 650W or probably less

serene scaffold
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might be more wattage than needed, and modular isn't really a big deal

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if you can get cheaper than great

median marsh
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yea, half modular is fine enough, you gonna connect the ATX cable anyhow 😄

serene scaffold
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bronze, gold, copper, plat are lies also, just get whatever

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i swear windows keeps going up in price..

median marsh
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and maybe go for 2x32GB instead of 4x16GB

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unless the system supports quad channel

serene scaffold
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not familiar with that mobo, im an amd boy

spare mango
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Oh, thanks. I am not a fan of Good looking pcs, I need High performance for simulations, rendering, etc. This was my first list so mistakes are there. Please recommend where I can improve.

serene scaffold
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read above

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could also get some ram and then get more when its on sale

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g skill are pretty common

median marsh
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for the tower, maybe look at be quiet! Pure Base 500 if it's available where you live

serene scaffold
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i have some in my pc that i built 2 or 3 years ago and i can still buy more for it

median marsh
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it costs like half the price, and overall quality is good in my opinion

serene scaffold
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if you don't plan on using both gpu slots, go with a micro-atx, it's the same thing but not 9'x12', instead 9'x9' - you still have cpu, 4 ram slots, gpu, etc

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im also a fan of the modular thermaltake case

median marsh
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i wont go with micro-atx

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they often have less memory slots and overall full atx has usually better specs

spare mango
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I plan to add another you when the prices go down and my pocket allows it.

serene scaffold
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mine has 4 ram slots 😛

median marsh
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how many M2 slots?

spare mango
serene scaffold
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i think 2, but i dont use em

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its just ssds and sata

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been thinking about getting an m2 though 🙂

median marsh
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save some cash on psu/case and invest in an SSD

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samsung evo is pretty good and you get it for ~$150 for 1TB

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not adding an SSD in such a new system would be a stupid move

serene scaffold
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also, pretty sure the cpu comes with a stock cooler (unless it says it doesnt)

median marsh
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and damn those gpu prices...

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wouldn't pay that for a 2060

astral musk
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the 10900K does not come with a stock cooler.

astral musk
lofty hamlet
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Okay guys I need advice. I just copped an EVGA 3080 12GB on the Newegg shuffle, but I was aiming for a 3090 as I'm working on VR content and animation on UE

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Should I take the deal or should I wait for the card with extra performance?

median marsh
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if the price is good take it

royal aspen
median marsh
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don't become a scalper -.-

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either take it for yourself or leave it

paper cape
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Hey guys currently having my new pc built with a 3080ti , will I be fine running ue4 and ue5 at high settings or is the 3090 a significant upgrade due to the vram?

idle elk
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as far as im aware they both more or less have the same performance

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in unreal engine

paper cape
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Thanks @idle elk just wanted to make sure

median marsh
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doubt that they have the same performance

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but also doubt that an 3090 is necessary if you already have hands on a 3080

idle elk
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surely the 3090 has a bit better performance but the difference should be no big deal

paper cape
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@devout pendant @idle elk @median marsh
Ya I really want to start creating , nothing major like vr or anything but powerful enough to have lumen and ready tracing on my 4k monitor looking good without to bad fps
I have the 12900k paired with the 3080ti
So it seems like what everyone says is that should be plenty sufficient

lofty hamlet
lofty hamlet
paper cape
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@devout pendant awesome I'll stick with the 3080ti then, I was also worried about it getting to hot but I have the build packed with fans and really good cooling so should be ok

royal aspen
magic parrot
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what’s analog of nzxt kraken z63 but without lcd display?

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and how good nzxt water coolers? And how it is reliable?

idle elk
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the alternative would be the nzxt x63

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their coolers arent the best but not bad either

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should last u a couple of years

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if u dont really care about the looks id go with arctic or ekw aio

prisma oak
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Hey everyone, I recently bought a new laptop with RTX 3060 and i7 11800H, is it enough to run ue4 with no lag?

idle elk
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never worked on something bigger in ue4 myself but i do have fairly similar specs performance wise and im having no issues running it whatsoever

prisma oak
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Okk great!!! Thankyou :)

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I'll start my game dev journey soon, wish me luck 🤞

idle elk
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no problem good luck with that then

prisma oak
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Ty ty

silver nexus
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I have a monitor that has 120 and 240hz for refresh rate. I currently have it running at 120hz. Developing on unreal can hog up some resources from the pc so I'm wondering if I run the monitor at 240hz would that take away some of the resources that I could be giving to unreal?

mighty cosmos
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No, the monitor is able to display 240hz, doesn't mean it will somehow force unreal or whatever to run at that or take any extra resources

royal aspen
# silver nexus I have a monitor that has 120 and 240hz for refresh rate. I currently have it ru...

Depends on if you have vsync or gsync on. Both of these stop the game ticking faster than the display rate of the display which harshen the experience when the game could be running faster without showing the frames.

So if these are on then jumping from 120 to 240 could demand more resources yes. If they are off, the overhead is unlikely to be noticeable but you could expect anything outside of unreal to also tax resources a little harder, it would be hard to say your performance be observably worse with 240 so long as vsync/freesync/gsync is off — even with those on you’ll have a better experience with the higher refresh rate if you can hit it. If you aren’t hitting frame rates higher than these then it’s unlikely gonna be any difference resource wise

magic parrot
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if liquid in aio cooler is distilled or deionized water does it means that it will not when leaked instantly kill gpu or motherboard?

errant peak
magic parrot
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So i will heave some time in this scenario?

errant peak
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Impossible to really say

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If you had a leak, shutdown the computer immediately. Unplug it. And let it dry for a day or two

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You might be lucky, you might not

magic parrot
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What chances of leak on average? I think with time they are increasing?

errant peak
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I personally don't trust liquid cooling having had bad experiences. However I wouldn't be able to give any estimate on leak probability. I would assume the chance to leak would increase over time. This is one reason I'm personally not a fan: higher maintenance in the form of periodic inspections for signs of leaks.

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I know people that swear by liquid cooling though

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It's only worth it if you are overclocking

magic parrot
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I wanted to replace Dark Rock 2 for NZTX Kraken X73

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With air cooler i have 80C in 100 load, not good i think

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i can feel heat

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that is uncomfortable

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but death of gpu cuz of leak is extremely unpleasant cuz of current situation with prices

errant peak
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Yeah

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You'll probably want to look for reviews on the kraken. I've only liquid cooled once and it ended in disaster because of a poorly designed aio.

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So I can't really give any idea on thermal performance

magic parrot
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Thanks 🙂

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Lol, what about having humidity sensor in PC case?

magic parrot
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😔

idle elk
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the dark rock pro should perform just as well if not better than the x73 for half the price if ur worried abt ur aio leaking

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although it is very unlikely for that to happen

blissful storm
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whats the best gpu and cpu, ram for a pc to work good in unreal ( i wanna make a big project)

serene scaffold
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surprised there's no pin for this kind of question

blissful storm
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1000$ budget?

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im not american, my currency is 5x lower than dollar

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yeah im sorry

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the best affordablw

idle elk
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only the gpu is going to cost u 1000 usd nowdays

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pretty much

blissful storm
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yeah

serene scaffold
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a rare time where prebuilts are often a better deal

idle elk
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its more common to find an actual ok deal with current circumstances

blissful storm
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isnt there any usb ram i could buy😄

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i would buy normal ram but ||laptop||

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no fr now, does usb ram exist

idle elk
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pretty sure there is such a thing yeah

blissful storm
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wait let me searxh it up

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no i dont think it exists

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at least not in my countru

median marsh
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you dont want USB ram...

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that's slower than a pagefile on a internal hard disk

blissful storm
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i though actual ram could exist in usb form

wind egret
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it could

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there's dram in performance M.2 SSDs
stick one of those in a usb stick and you have... something that will be hilariously bottlenecked by USB 2.0

blissful storm
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is GTX 1660 super 6GB vram, AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.4 GHz, 32 gb ram good?

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i have money for everything in that build

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exept

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gpu, cpu, monitor

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🥲

serene scaffold
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nice, ram is very important

serene scaffold
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how large?

median marsh
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buy all the ram if you want any baked light on that scene...

paper cape
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Can you mix and match ram on your pc as long as it's the same ddr

idle elk
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in most cases yes but u wouldnt be able to run in dual channel and stuff

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unless cas and speed are the same then i believe u should be able to do so

minor veldt
paper cape
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Thanks @minor veldt I got some good info off of that , however I was more so curious about whether brand played a factor as long as they are same size and speed

paper cape
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@slate blade ok cool for instance corsair ddr5 16gb 4800 mhz will pair fine with crucial ddr5 16gb 4800 mhz , correct?

paper cape
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@slate blade oh ok gotcha , thanks for the clarification

serene flame
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Anybody have experience with the Gigabyte 3080 Gaming OC?

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Seen mixed responses about it, particularly temperatures getting absurdly high under load.

idle elk
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nothing new with gigabyte honestly

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had the same issue with one of their cards as well

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modified the fan curve then a little bit and it seems to be fine now

wind falcon
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Which CPU would you recommend for UE5? An AMD CPU which is currently better at multithreading or an Intel XPu with higher clock?

median marsh
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or wait for AM5 which is announced already

wind egret
median marsh
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yea, it's second half of 2022

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i somehow thought it was spring

royal aspen
serene flame
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Anyone know if it's remotely worth buying a 3080 right now? Can't find anything for MSRP so not even worth trying, but there do appear to be drabs of stock around. It seems though that a lot of them are going into EOL status, presumably for an upcoming refresh which probably just means higher prices and no real changes.

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Have a 980 currently, this is solely for UE5 dev, which the 980 can no longer keep up with.

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🎻

serene flame
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Seems to range between 1100-1300 GBP

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But I don't think it's even remotely possible to get one lower than that new from a reputable source.

serene flame
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yeah, debating whether to bite the bullet and suck up the cost now, or wait for whatever mystery surprise comes next

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the endless pc-component purchasing loop really..

royal aspen
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They mentioned being concerned over the next series of cards

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The next series will out do the current ones

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Which is why I said to consider it

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It’s msrp is 50 dollars less which amounts to some larger amount of actual market price

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Well a 3080 msrp is 700

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6800xt is 650

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It depends on how much better the next gen of cards are right?

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That’s not what I’ve heard

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Nvidia will try to match it in their next series too. But yea it’s all speculation

median marsh
idle elk
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3060 performs more like 2060/2060s

idle elk
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idk i had the 3060, still have the 2060s and performance appears to be roughly the same

median marsh
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maybe something else is bottlenecking?

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but we are talking about ~10% difference here, the performance difference between 3060 vs 3080 however is >100% so twice as fast

idle elk
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not sure actually i had both paired with the r5 3600 but i doubt that would be the cause

devout pendant
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@novel briar hard to say if i want to make small maps, i want to make games on steam, maybe other stores on pc's. also i want to make really high quality modelling

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@devout pendant i want mac because of graphics it has, screen etc. also all my other devices are apple so it will be best in my case

devout pendant
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i have a iphone and windows and no problems pairing stuff

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but i can not develop apps for it…

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hmm

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because apple is overpriced generally, but their software solutions are really solid and sometimes people use them for a long time, then it is understandable

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yeah i just like how apple devices works and how they look, overall macos is easier to use and many people say that it's also better for coding, studying etc.

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vim is universal 🙂

royal aspen
serene flame
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I want it to last 6/7 years again at least, so a 3060 probably won't stand up to that. Don't plan to replace it anytime soon. 4000 series is out of the question since it almost certainly won't be here until post-Q3, and that's in this current dreadful supply market - I want it before April ideally, to be able to claim back on the tax year in UK.

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Just seem to be so many mixed reviews about every different card.

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And ray tracing performance on the NVidia cards apparently is so much further ahead than AMD's equivalents

royal aspen
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The raster performance on amd is better

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The ray tracing on any platform isn’t fast enough to utilize at high resolution without legit compromises to image quality and latency

serene flame
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But I'd rather have a higher-spec card that is underworked than a lower spec that is at it's peak all the time. It has to last, and it has to cope with a UE5 workload 10-14 hours a day for 6/7 years.

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nah not at these hyper-inflated prices

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If I really wanted to I could stretch to one but the performance difference seems marginal

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Yeah it's just wasted money though 😦 There's no resale value on them after a few months. Gonna have a market flooded with 2nd hand crypto cards

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Yeah, true

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As usual, it's always the wrong time to buy 😄

royal aspen
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Going from a 970 to a 1660ti even is a upgrade

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If your looking for just a top tier card it will always be changing and you won’t really be able to have great confidence in the market resting for 6-7 years

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But I mean if the 40 series RTX cards cost 4,000 dollars shrug

serene flame
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What I'm thinking atm is just suck up the inflated costs anyway and get the gigabyte 3080, do the thermal pad upgrade, and leave it be for a while

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It's probably mega overkill

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But I don't think costs for retail cards are going to decrease anytime soon, probably the opposite

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I saw MSI doing something like cancelling past pre-orders, then relisting for inflated prices. Even the vendors are in on the game at this point

royal aspen
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If your able to get a 3080 in stock then go for it. But yeah a 970.. like the latest rx6500xt is readily available rn and it in most cases is gonna be a upgrade and support much of the latest stuff unreal would use for a retail price that is supposed to be around 250 dollars https://youtu.be/kE8XUi28JNc

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I really really do not recommend that card

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But I just would say if you pull the trigger on just about anything you’ll have a better experience

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3080 is kinda like the most unobtainable card rn

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But you could get lucky or pay out of nose on one. I don’t know that it will last you 6-7 years but it will serve you well for some time. Idk why it’s got only 12gb of ram but at least it’s fast ram

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eBay is your best bet and prices yknow aren’t great

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It worked out fine for my rx6900xt. I overplayed at 1200 on it back then but now my card goes for 2000 so idk

serene flame
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My 980 has done pretty well tbh, really stood the test of time. After to 1000 series it just went off the rails

royal aspen
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Yeah like the 10 series dominated the 9 series

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20 series did little

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30 series made up for 20 series and then some due to competition from amd

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Yeah you shouldn’t

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There are probably stock alerting discords you could join to try to snipe one at retail

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I don’t know of the Canadian equivalent to nerdspeak but there probably is one

serene flame
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Yeah ebay I don't really trust, and I also wonder about potential RMA/warranty issues buying from there

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Just for peace of mind I'd rather buy from retail

royal aspen
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Nah that’s all through manufacturer. But you definitely need to be careful of fake sales

serene flame
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take that scalpers

royal aspen
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Unfortunately the reality of the situation with eBay is that Newegg and Antonline have eBay accounts they unload their stock on

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Like I got my 5950x from an ant online eBay post

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You just have to be careful to check who you’re buying from

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https://www.ebay.com/str/newegg

Newegg | eBay Stores

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That’s what I found too

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Which is why I went eBay

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Amazon wanted 1700 for it, I got 1200 which was about 200 over retail

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Sealed, new in box

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Yeah it’s weird of how much a upgrade the 3060 is to a 2060

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A rx6600xt is a legit upgrade to 2060 but a 3060ti is beyond a rx6600xt (but not the non ti)

#

Nvidia has a really weird pricing mechanism

serene flame
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I think also though, the 3000 series is already so close to it's peak performance when it comes from the factory. Overclockers haven't been able to squeeze much more juice out of them AFAIK

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Whereas back in the 1000 series days, you could boost them a fair bit

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I think that's where part of that performance bridge has come from, just higher base clocks/tuning etc.

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And no doubt advances with drivers etc.

royal aspen
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You can get more out of the amd chips in that regard but idk if overclocking is great these days yeah

serene flame
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Hardware is so outrageously fast anyway these days it's almost not worth voiding your warranty over it

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Unless it's just for the memes

royal aspen
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Yeah idk, they are all power hungry and probably will be difficult to fit into your case

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The 3090 and rx6800 at least

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Really big cards

serene flame
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yeah I had to plan for that in advance 😄

royal aspen
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That’s a atx case too

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Wish I didn’t have to mount it that way

serene flame
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I measured it out specifically to have that space. It'll be tight though for sure

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tired dawn
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Is it ok to have 100% CPU usage often? when rendering stuff and so on.. I guess that's just how it is

tired dawn
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I guess no (haven't measured) I have a decent cooling system.. It's just that I used to hear ''never let your cpu run on 100%, you damage it'' but that's just some false talk I guess, so it's ok

royal aspen
unborn pike
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'never let your cpu run on 100%, you damage it''
anyone who says something like that is completely clueless about how computers work

timber cobalt
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My motto : "I will use all the cores that I am paying for."

rough spindle
#

Hello everybody!
I was thinking of being a premade ASUS ROG Strix G15DK since it costs 1/3 less than buying all the parts and building it.
Would you guys recommend changing the coolers afterwards?
Or do you have a similar prebuilt you recommend in that price/performance range?
I'm aiming for RTX 3070 with Ryzen 7 series but parts are way too pricey where I live

bitter rain
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Hey Everyone, I am looking to build an industry grade PC to work on virtual productions with. Have a budget of £5000. Looking for some recommendations 🙂

royal aspen
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Id recommend the cpu just because stuff like animation and Niagara can be cpu thread utilizers.. but additionally if you need to pipe out video you’ll have many cpu threads to output better quality than the onboard encoder with gpu

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I don’t think the threadripper pro boards are worth it

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Unless you have a need for more than 256gb memory

near hawk
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@royal aspen we ended up going for a threadripper 3960x and a rtx a6000 (the budget kind of went out the window a bit lol) with the 128gb ram with the option to upgrade to 256 in the future

royal aspen
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I’m running a 3970x with 256gb and a rx6900xt which yeah is well over that even at msrp

royal aspen
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Would almost recommend a 5950x over the 3960x but you’ll miss the lanes and memory yeah

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Much more snappy however

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empty osprey
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I want to know how good would an RTX 3050 be for unreal engine Arch viz work, and how much difference would there be between the RTX 3050 and the RTX 3060?

royal aspen
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Nah

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It’s closer to a 1660

royal aspen
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Agreed it’s confusing

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It was like they had a model at every price point

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But yeah now it’s just all crazy

digital granite
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can i use more than one graphics card on the same game even though the cards aren't the same and they are all NVIDIA cards but i have a lot of them for reasons.

royal aspen
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Afaik you could have problems using sli with two 1080ti from different manufacturers

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Even a different revision number I think can be a issue

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Yeah but I don’t think it’s possible to sli a 1060 with a 1660

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Would you consider a 1060 and 1070 to be the same chipset?

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Ye I just meant the way he asked it is a no

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Sli and crossfire support is mostly meh anyways

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Cards with full nvlink support can combine resources over the bridge but those cards are only Quadros afaik

devout pendant
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which one would be better for unreal engine an RTX 3090 supper or an RTX titan or a Quadro card

astral musk
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3090 is significantly faster

opal scroll
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Hello Guys, which apple device(iMac or MacBook ) do you recommend for unreal development ? Mac build or ios build

royal aspen
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M1 chips run ARM and require stuff like the editor to be ran through a transplier which makes them run slower than native arm

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But apparently unity has a native M1 compile target which still performs worse than transpiled unreal

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Just don’t think I’d recommend either

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If it’s just for compiling on iOS, could probably get a mini

fallen oasis
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I was checking out the prices of the imac pros the other day. Some insanely expensive kit available!

opal scroll
# royal aspen If it’s just for compiling on iOS, could probably get a mini

Yes I am looking for mac and ios build. Why iMac is less painful?
Any suggestion on this video: https://youtu.be/9zQc1Rs_GPY

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I got the 14" MBP on M1Pro, and wanted to test how well UE5 works.
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And overall impressions on how to proceed with Apple Silicon Macs, be it M1, M1Pro, or M1Max.

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opal scroll
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Is mini capable of handling UE ?

royal aspen
royal aspen
opal scroll
royal aspen
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its a imac

royal aspen
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an x86 processor is probably gonna out perform M1 arm transpiling

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#macos might be a good place to ask about M1 support, if its even planned etc

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because like the M1 is newer and all, but yeah if you were to start developing today, i'd pick whatever i9 they offer

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hackintosh is kinda hard

remote wadi
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What Specs do you guys recommend for nanite & lumen?

opal scroll
opal scroll
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Thank you . I’ll keep this in mind

vivid skiff
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Steam Deck looks to be promising for mid range portable PC gaming, for sure.

Though I can't see doing UE development just using Steam Deck alone.

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I mean, it's possible, but I can't see the plausibility of doing fully fledged UE development in SD

wild yoke
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Just connect a rtx 1000 and a rtx3090 and you have it

delicate leaf
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Hey, I have a question about the GPU i am going to buy. I have at this moment an RX 580 8GB but as you know it does not have HIP rendering in Blender. I looked for an upgrade GPU and i found the RTX 2060 KO Ultra 6GB and RTX 3050 8GB. Which one should i get for Blender and Unreal Engine. Is the extra RAM worth it?
Note: The RTX 2060 KO Ultra version has the rendering power of an RTX 2060 Super in Blender(GamersNexus)

median marsh
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yes extra ram is worth it imho

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but also depends on how much you render in blender, thats up to you to decide if performance is more important for you

delicate leaf
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Sure? cuz like it is 22% stronger tho

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i use both of them

median marsh
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do you use cycles or why is rendertime important for you?

delicate leaf
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bcs at this moment i render a 15s video in like 10h

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Cycles

median marsh
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wth

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with denoiser?

delicate leaf
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dont know it was a project from last year

median marsh
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if not, look into the denoiser they added, it gives good results with waaaaay less rendersamples

delicate leaf
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my friend did kinda the exact same thing and it was max 4h or so

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but he has a RTX 2080

median marsh
delicate leaf
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it was a VFX video so i dont know about that. I dont know if i added that or not but still. So the RTX 3050 you said right? cuz for a project i need to make a big forest

median marsh
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depends on what texture sizes you work with

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and how many different textures your scene uses

delicate leaf
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something like this

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delicate leaf
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ait thx tho @median marsh

grave stratus
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Hey peeps, I've been away from unreal engine for about 2 years now due to school and I was thinking of getting back to UE5 since my research focus is graphics and physics simulations and I think there's a lot to learn from it. For people who work with source code in UE4 or UE5, what hardware should I be looking for? I'm mostly looking for a laptop since I move a lot for work but I don't want to spend a lot of money on something I don't need.

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Also, with the shortage in hardware, I'd probably have to go for something more expensive anyway because most of the best-value laptops are out of the market. I think I'm stuck with either a bad old gen one or a more expensive new-gen one

flat glade
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any post-maxwell gpu can run nanite and it's surprisingly efficient for what it does but lumen is very expensive

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if your goal is just to study how they work and not really realtime I think you should be okay with aiming for the equivalent of a midrange gaming laptop. If you want to do a lot of source builds you are going to want a lot of ram+cores as well

grave stratus
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It's both study how they work and trying to implement some of my work in them. I'm looking to start implementing some of the features mentions in research papers with the help of UE. But yes it'll most likely include a lot of builds. I was wondering if an 11th gen I7 with 32 GB of ram might be enough or if I have to bump that up. I'm not too worried graphics but the problem is that most laptops with powerful CPUs only offer options like 3060+

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I was thinking of a Lenovo legion 5 or Asus Zephyrus G15 but I genuinely cannot find them anywhere. There's a huge shortage where I live and I'd mostly have to buy one of these year's upcoming 12th gen intel laptops or suck it up and get an Alienware since it's one of the very few things that are not out of stock right now

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I just don't feel like I need 64GB of ram, esp DDR5 or a 12th gen intel processor at the moment

median marsh
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32GB is enough if you don't plan on working on big levels which need static lighting baked

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median marsh
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maybe when it's in an usable state...

median marsh
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+175% who would have thought

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so a quad cpu system with 4 atom's will beat the ryzen right?

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and that just at 16x 1,33GHz

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if just intel did knew this...

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didn't need alder lake to get back in business

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wait it all makes sense now

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alder lake = 11th gen i series + atom cores

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yea because there's no 16 core test included, but it really may outrun the 5950x up to load for 8 cores

mellow galleon
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if you overclock 5950 to consume as much power as 12700 use it will beat it 😄

devout pendant
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any modern pc can run lumen

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dose your target market run potatoes

wind egret
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It references Sandy Bridge doing something similar in the article.

wind egret
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Makes me wonder to what extent small FPGAs could allow Intel to add completely new features to a chip, as opposed to disabling existing features with a flag. On the other hand, in the future they could sell these as software-specific features. "AVX-1kb is a temporary exclusive for Microsoft 365 apps"

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wind egret
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You are underpaying for kidneys.

sharp pumice
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I need to build my rig from ground up, I'm planning to save GPU and PSU from my old setup 1070 TI and corsair vs650.
I have no idea about hardware whatsoever, my coworker recommended me AMD Ryzen 9 5900X CPU (as it fits my budget) but I'm struggling to match rest of components like motherboard and ram.
On some forums thread I saw people recommend MSI MEG X570 UNIFY Motherboard and mention that I should pair above mentioned CPU with 4000mhz ram.
I'm quite clueless as to why I should (or shouldn't) choose these components in particular so all I can rely on is other users recommendations.

median marsh
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well, sounds like a good recommendation

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not sure if it's worth to go for 4000MHz Memory, 3600 should be sufficient

royal aspen
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I tried twice to buy 128gb in 32x4@4000mhz and was stable only at 3200mhz

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4000mhz is the sweet spot for that generation but if your looking at a 128gb kit, yeah just go for 3600mhz

median marsh
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which kit did you end up with?

royal aspen
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My old Corsair 3600mhz

median marsh
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mine was advertised to be 3600MHz ready, but im not running it at 3600 yet

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because apparently needs some bios tweaking

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ok

royal aspen
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The docp profile for mine is something like 3598 or something

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I don’t understand why it’s like that but yeah

median marsh
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did your kit need bios tweaking to reach 3600? and was it advertised to be 3600mhz ready?

royal aspen
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Used it in a crosshair dark hero and crosshair hero

royal aspen
median marsh
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both no?

royal aspen
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It was advertised at 3600mhz and ran at that docp profile I mentioned without any bios changes

median marsh
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ok

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weird that mine doesn't -.-

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would have expected it to work out of the box

royal aspen
#

What mainboard?

median marsh
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asus rog strix x570 e gaming

royal aspen
#

I’ve had worse luck with g skill

median marsh
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lol

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my kit is g.skill...

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so yea

royal aspen
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The two kits that didn’t manage 3600 but were advertised at 4000 were g skill

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Windows booted at 3600 but it’d crash after awhile

median marsh
#

yea it was my concern when buying memory from a company which doesn't even produce that on their own

#

should have gone with crucial or similar, too

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well, i may retry at some point, may just need some more voltage

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that's my experience from the past with g.skill...

royal aspen
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Idk, docp should be plug and play tbh

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I sent those two kits back and got full refund because they didn’t

wild igloo
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buy 1 processor get another 1 free

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thanks CSME

wild igloo
#

will RISCV save us brother

sharp pumice
#

Can you recommend any m.2 ssd drive that is good value for its price?

median marsh
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samsung evo

astral shell
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I have 4 WD black 2tb SN850's m.2's between 2 pcs. great speeds.

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Oh for sure.

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some of these drives can only last up to about a year

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I mean this drive is decent enough and cheap. When i overclock it is goes to about double.

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median marsh
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well, i got 2 evos which didn't make trouble yet

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guess theres bad experience with all brands

astral shell
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I had a 512 evo before and it just did not meet my quality standards.

wind egret
#

Aren't EVOs the budget Samsungs? The SN850 is even more expensive than the Samsung PROs.

median marsh
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QVO or something is budget samsung

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well, maybe samsung can produce cheaper as the biggest company producing flash chips

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WD pretty much relies on sandisk or whatever they bought

wind egret
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QVO is only SATA/2.5" drives though?
Huh. Samsung now has a non-EVO, in the 980 '""'. Oh that's annoying. Nevermind, it can be distinguished as the "SSD 980".

wind egret
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QVO being only SATA doesn't exclude EVOs from being SATA.
And SATA spec limits drives to 500 MB/s. Unless it's shit in some other way, it's unfair to expect a SATA SSD to go fast, at least by SSD standards.

white gust
#

So I was talking about my old 1060 / Ryzen 7 bottleneck if you want to continue the conversation in here

devout pendant
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I feel your pain

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it’s bad

white gust
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yerah that GPU upgrade was heaven

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I do a lot of water sim stuff

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instand clean fast fps speeds

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instant I mean

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soon as I put in the 3070

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and RTX, whoia

devout pendant
#

I gotta go

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but yea I might upgrade soon

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when prices go down

white gust
#

good luck dude

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you'll get one

mellow galleon
cloud fiber
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not sure if "techsupport" is allowed but does anyone know what would cause multiple keypresses to be recorded in windows? its been happening for the past few hours and ive tried rebooting, shutting the pc down for several minutes, unplugging-replugging my keyboard. its doing it with seemingly all keys and sometimes the duplicate key-presses are delayed by a tiny bit so my words get all jumbled up

minor veldt
cloud fiber
errant peak
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Angrily smashing your keyboard can lead to thiss...

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Not that I know anything about that

tired kelp
median marsh
#

lorash, i think you can have bad experience with all of them

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i had one crucial, which failed on me after half a year, but that was almost 10 years ago

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my others (2x intel, 1x adata, 2x samsung) are fine tho

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but the intels are also >10 years old (still good enough as boot disk)

median marsh
#

just order an SSD from wish

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the guy who made the video could work at wish tho

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800TB = 8PB in his world

median marsh
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my bad

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guess we both are right

frank glade
#

I have a crucial m4 at 128gb, still going strong. I also had to warranty return a samsung evo after 1 month

unborn pike
#

should I be concerned that my display goes dark for few seconds randomly? Not necessarily every day or even during a week but sometimes it happens like once a day

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wondering if that's something nvidia's 3090's do

unborn pike
#

that's a good point

median marsh
#

after which time did the samsung evo fail?

frank glade
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Got blue screens and freezes in the 1st week, then one month later missing hdd on boot 🥺

median marsh
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sucks, at least it failed early

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my crucial died after around 6 months... started to behave weird and disconnect itself, until it didn't really show up anymore

mighty cosmos
#

Have 3 or 4 Samsung evo ssds, had them for a few years now, no issues at all so far

tired kelp
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same, I got 2 and they been working flawlessly

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m.2 and standard

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I used to have (and probably still do somewhere) a WD back in the day that worked for more than 10 years without fail

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good times

median marsh
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yea but the crucial at some point also threw write errors, but it was out of warranty because i barely used it at all

median marsh
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exactly

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they change controllers/flash types in the same product, which perform different than test samples that hardware sites reviewed, etc.

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at this point you can't trust anything

errant peak
#

This is part of the reason I always do so much research when planning and buying new computer builds

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It is always funny to me when family or friends ask me what computer parts to buy. I'm like... I haven't bought anything in X months, info I have is stale! Research it yourself!

errant peak
#

Yes this

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"No I will not fix your computer for you for free"

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Well more regarding friends and co-workers on that one

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Family... depends

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Some have asked a little too much for that

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Then again, a lot of my family ends up with hand-me-down hardware I'm too lazy busy to try and sell

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I mean end up with hand-me-down hardware from me

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At this stage.. friends is kinda hypothetical for me

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I haven't seen many since Covid started

river pagoda
#

nvidia bad

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It worked week ago, just what happened

astral shell
#

289.99. holy... nice cheap storage device!

timber cobalt
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nice, is that suitable for NAS?

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I mean is it recommended instead of suitable?

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ah I see, that is for 24/7 servers, so yeah

stuck tangle
#

Anyone here develop on a laptop? I've only ever had a PC, but will be traveling and would like to continue game dev. Seems like a laptop with a good cpu/gpu would be perfectly sufficient. And I can take along a low profile monitor for dual monitor. Wondering if anyone does this and has advice / can confirm it's doable

tired kelp
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seems like a pain in the behind taking another monitor with you

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but yes a laptop will suffice

median marsh
#

still wonder how reliable those big disks are...

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unless you make 2D Sprite mobile games

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same on linux, but putting 2 of the same devices in raid1 is always a bit risky

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sure backups are there, but still annoying if both fail at the same time

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and if e.g. 8TB are more reliable i would rather go for 3x8TB in RAID5 than 2x16GB RAID1

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costs about the same

stuck tangle
#

Good point I am really limited at 16 right now, thx

unborn pike
#

64 GB ram now 😎

mystic osprey
#

Hi. Is it better to buy GIGABYTE RTX 3070 TI GAMING OC 8G or buy something cheaper with more vram ? for maya and unreal

#

?

frank glade
#

honestly more vram

fallen oasis
#

The performance/price point seems to be better for amd cards right now. Maybe consider one of those too?

flat glade
#

I have seen switching to mobile rendering helps with CPU renderers

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I forgot the game that included that option

mighty comet
#

Hi i need some help. So i decided zo clean up my pc a bit and after putting it together again this red button glows and the pc wont 'start' the fans are working and all but nothing shows on the screen

fallen oasis
#

Have you tried clearing the cmos? You have a super convenient button there.

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Have you removed all unnecessary hardware, including unplugging everythign but 1 monitor and even tryign your onboard graphics output?

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I had a situation the other week where my pc wouldn't boot until I'd just unplugged everything. Then I put everything back and it worked fine. 😦

mighty comet
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Gonna try that thanks!

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Ye it didnt work

mighty comet
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Yes i have

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Damn ok i got it to work

#

Thanks fellas

fallen oasis
#

I still remember back in teh day listening to pc speaker beeps. Damn!

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Damn. Never had a motherboard do that. Fancy stuff.

#

I think I saw a LCD number display on a motherboard I was considering purchasing and was wondering what it was for. Guess now I know!

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Lol.

wind egret
#

Come to think of it, it was with headphones for which the wire (cable? rope?) had been broken, so the exposed wires could be wrapped around the pins. And they were exceedingly bad at holding in place.

fallen oasis
#

That's just asking for something to be short circuited.

median marsh
#

if you mean those, they are basically 8 led's per digit and not really expensive to produce

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solid cosmos
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I like the dual bios nice when you do a whoopsie.

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Ever pull a graphics card and forget to unlock it? Ripping off the plastic and having metal wires just sitting there lmao.

unborn pike
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nope

fallen oasis
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School boy error right there.

short bramble
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Hi all

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I'm about to buy a PC for UE4/UE5 and I want your opinion please

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Is an Intel i7-11700F is a great choice ?

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Intel Core i7-11700F (Octo-Core 2.5 GHz / 4.9 GHz Turbo - 16 Threads - Cache 16 Mo)

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and the GPU is NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
and RAM is 16gb (but I will upgrade to 32gb)

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And last question, is the i7-10700KF is better than the i7-11700F (I saw that the i7-10700KF is more expensive than the i7-11700F) ?

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Is it because the i7-10th has the "K" letter and the i7-11th not ?

median marsh
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oh nvm, the other one is F

short bramble
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I saw that with the "K" letter, the CPU is faster than without "K" letter

median marsh
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The F series range of processors is basically the multiplier locked version of the KF processors.

short bramble
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so I don't know if one more generation (11th) without "K" is better than a 10th generation with "K" ?

median marsh
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so the KF can be overclocked easier (at least on multiplier level)

short bramble
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but what is better ? one more generation or the "K" ?

median marsh
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i think most people saw 11th gen as downgrade to 10th gen

short bramble
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oh so the i7-10th with KF is better I guess

median marsh
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the 11th gen has better tdp (probably because of lower base frequency) and supports pciex4

vivid skiff
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I wonder if the AMD equivalent to that can live up to the performance in lesser price

short bramble
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I get an F version because I don't need integrated graphics if I take Nvidia RTX 3070

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F = no integrated graphics

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right ?

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I guess it's better for the computer to not have integrated grpahics if I already have a GPU installed

median marsh
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you can probably disable it in the bios anyways

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sometimes the ones with iGPU are cheaper for some reason

short bramble
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so F version is better I guess

median marsh
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if you don't plan to use iGPU or to overclock you can get any version i think

short bramble
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ok thanks

short bramble
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So 32gb of RAM + GeForce RTX 3070 + i7-10700KF is a great setup for UE4/UE5 you think ?

fallen oasis
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It's fantastic.

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If you want the best, buy an AMD Threadripper.

short bramble
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Thank you ^^

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AMD Threadripper seems so expensive

fallen oasis
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It is!

median marsh
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rather invest in memory/gpu, 8 core should be sufficient for a "normal" workplace

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true

hoary lintel
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When Baking light with the GPU Lightmass, the encoding textures process at the end takes by far most of the time,
Assuming that that process is CPU-bound: Is that a multi or single core process?

quick turret
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hey people random question, does UE5 supports multiple gpu configurations for lightmass or in some other way? With NVLink / SLI?

hoary lintel
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sorry that was 4.27 specific, cant find it in the ue5 documentation rn

quick turret
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thanx!

radiant summit
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@high basin

hasty orchid
#

Any tips for European Desktop-as-a-service with GPU providers? I've been planing to go for Azure NC8as_T4_v3 as we are already using Azure for infrastructure, but those VM's are not available at all these days. AWS G4dn.2xlarge and Google N1 standard 8 are obvious alternatives, but are quite a bit more expensive. I know some American providers like CoreWeave, but I'm guessing it the machines should be in Europe to minimize delay.

astral shell
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80 dollars off right now, pretty good deal

tired kelp
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even after the WD corruption?

devout pendant
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Question
Should I go for a big SSD or a M.2NVME for Unreal Projects? Of course i'm on a budget as always 😆

unborn pike
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big nvme

median marsh
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nvme obviously, they usually cost the same anyways

devout pendant
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I'm asking because i can get a SSD of 1TB for 59,99 or a M.2 of 1TB for 129,-, but like I said im on a budget so was wondering if it is worth it

timber cobalt
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has the m2 version better speed?

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if yes, and the budget is enough, then go for it

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and of course the speed difference matters :D

devout pendant
timber cobalt
median marsh
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nah

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if the ssd is used and survived, it will most likely do that for a while

unborn pike
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personally I got a 1 TB nvme that has read speed of 6000 MB/s

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you want something like that

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even this 1 TB is too small since I have my OS on it too

fallen oasis
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I've got a 2TB one on order.

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Gonna be sweet.

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Damn those mibibytes.

raw lava
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hi everyone! Wonder if laptop with AMD Ryzen 5 5500U +Vega 7 will be useful for work as VFX and some tech art thingy? Any ideas about intel HD620?

unborn pike
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sounds pretty crappy

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the hd620 that is

raw lava
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that`s bad, but is it an actual experience or suggestion?

devout pendant
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I have a HP OMEN 17 whose left fan is making a rattling noise from time to time, but since yesterday it's permanent... I opened the back pannel and cleaned a bit (there wasn't so much dust), but it didn't solved anything. I don't know what to do...

devout pendant
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I blew a bit in it, it's better but still rattling.

devout pendant
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I bought it 2 years ago.

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But yeah it may be something else than the fan itself...

fallen oasis
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It may be the bearings are a bit knackered after 2 years.

devout pendant
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😕

devout pendant
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get an acer. i love this thing

devout pendant
devout pendant
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My laptop's keyboard smell a little like burnt plastic or dust this morning... 😕

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The temperatures are below 50°.

devout pendant
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Ok... The noise stopped.

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🤷‍♂️

devout pendant
devout pendant
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I think it's because it's a bit cold at the moment so the computer gets cold at night.

median marsh
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or the fan stopped

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also there's not much to clean at a fan, unless you are smoker and there's a film of dust on the blades

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anything else like vacuum cleaner/pressured air is more likely to harm the fan as it may pull/push oil out of the bearing

devout pendant
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No no it didn't stopped. I'm sure it's because it's cold at night and perhaps it affects the fan's spining part.

median marsh
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yea but those of smokers are a bit different, like a fur 😄

faint folio
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Hi, I use the Unreal engine a LOT especially in VR and other pretty heavy software.
I should buy a new PC possibly pre-assembled, because I'm not much of a component expert ...
Could you suggest me some PC / website where I can search?
My budget can go up to around $ 3,500

fallen oasis
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You picked a good time. Gfx cards are starting to come down in price a bit.

faint folio
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Great!

faint folio
fallen oasis
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I'd probably go with build with a 5950x processor and a radeon 6800+ or an nvidia 3070+

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Everything else is basically whatever

faint folio
fallen oasis
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If you find another $5k down the back of the sofa, get a threadripper. 🙂

faint folio
fallen oasis
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Not a bad idea!

fallen oasis
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Has networking evolved to the point where I don't need a twisted pair cable to connect 2 computers directly via an ethernet cable?

fallen oasis
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Fantastic. That'll solve me a good 30s plugging in a hub 😄

tired kelp
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I'm still running a 1070ti and getting 60 fps at 1440p

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then again I have not ran any 2021 game

royal aspen
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Try Fortnite

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Using the dx12 beta renderer, it really utilizes stuff well. Maybe not at 1440p though

jagged coral
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Will the image be bad if I play 1080P games on a 4K Monitor?

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Blur etc.

median marsh
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and how good the scaling processor is

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but as 4k is just double the width/height of 1080p it should scale quite well

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just each pixel takes 4 on the display then

minor veldt
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I play at 1080p on a 55" tv. It's not great,

flat glade
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1440p supremacy

subtle sundial
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144p supremacy*

median marsh
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to work, not to watch movies...

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specially as the trend goes to 21:9 aspect ratio, so when 4k sales go down they'll push 21:9

minor veldt
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So much yes. I'd want somewhere around 110-120 ppi so we get a decent size that can be pushed back a bit to give space for a notebook on the desk. The standard 32" 4k 16:9 monitors are 140 ppi which I find to be on the high side. Until we get working UI scaling everywhere, then 300 ppi and 6000p.

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I'm waiting for virtual pixels.

wind egret
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I don't think I'll be that enthused with high ppi unless it's combined with HDR and no need for local dimming*, so that it can do pinlight effects.
*Whoever thought local dimming should be considered a feature and not a caveat should be forced to stare at virtual pixels on a 36 ppi screen.

radiant leaf
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Do you think unrel engine be good on unreal engine

brave panther
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I need some help. I bought a new computer:

The details:

Case : iBUYPOWER Lian Li LANCOOL II Mesh RGB Tempered Glass Gaming Case - Black
Case Fans : Default Case Fan
Case Lighting : None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion : None
Processor : Intel® Core™ i9-12900K Processor (8X 3.20GHz + 8X 2.40GHz/30MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling : iBUYPOWER 360mm Addressable RGB Liquid Cooling System - Black
Memory : 32 GB [16 GB X2] DDR5-6000MHz Memory Module - Certified Major Brand Gaming Memory [Free Upgrade to 32GB DDR5-6000 GSkill Trident Z5 (RGB LED)]
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24GB GDDR6X (VR-Ready)
SLI Bridge : None 
Motherboard : ASUS PRIME Z690-P - w/Wi-Fi add-in card, ARGB Header (3), USB 3.2 Ports (1 Type-C, 5 Type-A), M.2 Slot (3)

Is this enough to create medium-size games in Unreal 5? I know they recently recommended 64gb RAM, but I'm creating stylized graphics games, not like the demo they show. I'm worried about RAM. As far as I know, DDR5 has some issues going beyond 32GB at the moment.

tall grove
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Good evening everyone. Quick question. I am currently debating about possibly upgrading my computer cpu and was curious what is better for Unreal Engine? My setup is as Intel Core i9-10900K | ASUS Rog Strix z490-E Gaming | Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black | Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200MHz 32GB | NVIDIA RTX 3070 Ti | Fractal Design Torrent RGB Black | Corsair RMx Series RM850x | 1x SAMSUNG 970 2TB M.2 | 1x SAMSUNG 970 500GB M.2. Should I go 5950X or 12900K?
I read the CPU was the most important part for Unreal and that a decent GPU like the 3070/3080 is more than enough. I guess I could look at other parts of the system as well. Thanks!

brave panther
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Oh good, I was worried about the RAM thing.

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I could, but I heard that DDR5 RAM is instable at the moment if beyond 32 GB. I don't know if that's true or not.

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I mean, I heard there's blue screens sometimes.

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Too new, I think.

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I probably have to wait for a BIOS update, but hope that the 32GB is good enough for now.

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I'll just share what the iBuyPower support staff said: "You may come across stability issues. That's another one of the reasons we don't offer higher capacities, blue screen errors are more prevalent with higher capacities. Other than that, the RAM should be compatible."

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Has anyone had any success with DDR5-6000 (64 GB) in a i9 z690-p setup?

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Well, I want to learn Unreal, create a stylized graphic RPG, indie focus. If 32 GB can handle that, then I could stay with that until I need to go further. I don't think I'm doing anything intense.

tall grove
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I see, well I am just learning and designing as I learn my ideas. Outside of that, I do Audio Production with FL Studio 20 and some art stuff plus the occasional gaming.

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Oh okay, Cool

brave panther
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Oops, I got confused with who was talking to who, sorry.

brave panther
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I just bought a 2x32 GB kit (DDR5-5200). Quite happy!

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The problem was that duel kits don't work well (4 x 16 GB) for 12th gen Intel so far with the z690 mobos. Having one kit is preferred for DDR5.

It appears to be an ongoing issue with duel kits. One stated in a forum:

and if you check the the Z690 + DDR5 discussion here and elsewhere, you will find that basically nobody could get 2 DDR5 kits running - at least not at the rated frequency.

DDR5 has far higher capacity per module than DDR4. It is one more reason more to stay with 2 higher capacity modules than trying to combine 4 modules.
fallen oasis
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Damn. Under 100% load, my cpu is barely hitting 55 degrees!

fallen oasis
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Yeah. I need to play around with that.

bright magnet
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Is 3200mhz good?

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For ram

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10ns

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What do you prefer since I will upgrade my PC to 32 from 16

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So just 1 32gb stick or two 16s

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I'm have an i7-9700k

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Idk if that is nonhedt

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Ok so or i could buy two 32 GBS and I'll sell the one I have now or put 2 extra 16 gbs

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Same brand too?

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Nah I have 8+8

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I have like a team force or something are those good

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Oh ok are the vengeance RGB pro good they were one of the cheapest 16x2 i could find quickly

bright magnet
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@devout pendant

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Hmm ok

bright magnet
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I don't really care Abt rbg but a little doesn't matter to me

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Btw is 3600mhz and 18cl good

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The 18 cl seems kinda high so idk

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Yeh but I'll get 3600 for now withy 3000 and let the 3600 run at 3000 and later when I move the 3000 for 3600 too I'll just run it at 3600

royal aspen
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600mhz gain on intel 9700k is probably not worth the effort

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But sometimes the 3600mhz is priced similar so whatever

bright magnet
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3600 was like 10 bucks more

royal aspen
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Ye

bright magnet
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I alr bought it now just waiting for it to deliver

royal aspen
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But just so your aware, there probably won’t be a 3000mhz xmp for it

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Will have to set it to run at 3000mhz manually

bright magnet
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Then when I get another 3600 I'll just set it to 3600

royal aspen
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Aye, the 9700k is a odd one because it’s a 8core 8thread due to intels security issues over hyper threading back then it will probably deprecated quickly

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But you could certainly do that

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I would probably put that money towards a tenth gen replacement cpu instead though, even if it’s at 3000mhz ram
The 10700k has twice as many threads for example

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You’d have to check if your board supported it though

bright magnet
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That'll be my next upgrade

royal aspen
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Would definitely speed up shader compile times if your working in unreal

bright magnet
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Yeh most of the time that takes 10 minutes but what would ram speed up

royal aspen
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Ram speeds kinda vary in effect based on architecture but still like the measurable amount of performance gained is going to be varied based on the task at hand

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The thing I notice most with faster ram would be things like the mouse being a bit snappier in games and stuff

bright magnet
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Most of the timewith unreal engine on takes 98-99% of my ram

royal aspen
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If you’re running out of ram that would slow things a lot

bright magnet
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I couldn't even run discord

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I could but gardly

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So it was a good purchase?

royal aspen
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You’re going from 16gb to 32gb yeah?

bright magnet
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48

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16 to 48

royal aspen
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So two 8gb and two 16gb?

bright magnet
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Yes

royal aspen
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Yep but if performance is something you’d like, like in gaming and stuff, using just the two 16gb sticks will perform better on that generation of intel

bright magnet
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May I ask why?

royal aspen
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Intel runs better with a single dual channel back then than two occupied dual channels

bright magnet
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Is it a big change?

royal aspen
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No

bright magnet
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So for like 6 months it won't matter

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Will prob buy another pair of 2x16s in 6 months

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Or a new cpu

royal aspen
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I think at 32gb you might not need the extra 16gb, so I’d try that and only do the 48gb setup if you find yourself running out of ram still

royal aspen
bright magnet
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If 32 can run unreal

median marsh
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are the 16gb one stick?

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or 2x8?

bright magnet
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2x8

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I think u can't have three stick of ram

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Only 1, 2 or 4

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I think not sure

royal aspen
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Tbh ideally if your getting four sticks even you buy them all at the same time in a kit 4x16

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So if you’re familiar with selling off things, and you need 64gb then that’d be my advice

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That way you get something that is vetted to run at the advertised speeds

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(In theory)

bright magnet
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Or whole pcs

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I think it's globale but not used in any other countries i think

royal aspen
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Cool cool

bright magnet
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They just arrived and it like loaded within 1 minute

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instead of 10-15

median marsh
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yea a pair of 2 or 4 is optimal as they can run in dual channel mode

royal aspen
flat glade
#

mamma mia

wind egret
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hope it was the 12GB version

flat glade
#

the 4000 series is going to reach 2000USD baseline isn't it

brave panther
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Yay, my new workstation computer is on its way. I should get my 64gb of DDR5-5200 about the time of its delivery, too (2 x 32GB). I still think the best idea is to download all the driver updates, and then switch the ram. Less of an issue perhaps with Intel. Is it okay to download the latest NVidia drivers right now, too?

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I heard of a cyber issue with NVidia earlier.

tired kelp
#

welcome to adult life

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even with a decent salary I literally feel like I'm getting fleeced every time I go to the supermarket

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nevermind buying gfx cards in the current market

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I'll stick with my 1070ti for now

tired kelp
#

I wouldn't know, I can't afford chocolate 🥲

minor veldt
#

Why the strike-through?

idle elk
#

did u sell ur kidneys for that

brave panther
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It was either that or a sixth of my paycheck.

idle elk
#

i see haha

rocky granite
lucid cedar
#

Hey everyone!
Can someone recommend a laptop for UE5?
Currently I'm using MPB 15 2017 with 2GB radeon and it's too weak for lumen.

I'm thinking about this one:
Gigabyte AORUS 15P i7-11800H, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD RTX3060
What do you think?
My budget: 1700 eur

winged thorn
#

Call me crazy but I just ordered an Asus Strix 3080 12GB to replace my 3070Ti. I gain +4GB VRAM +30% performance/4K capability 🥳

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Sure the 4080 is released end of year but I doubt they'll be really available until 2023 plus 3080 12GB should be good for awhile. I sell my 3070 Ti get half the money back

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reason i did not go for 3080Ti is because it's $400 more for literally only like 3-5FPS gain

lunar burrow
#

Any suggestions on a good laptop that can handle unreal engine 4/5 development well?? I need to get a new one, mine is really dragging.

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Was looking at the lenovo legion 7 with 32 GB RAM and geforce rtx 3080 with 2 TB SSD. But am worried about the 32 GB RAM not being enough.

frank glade
#

Yeah I would def get 64gb

fallen oasis
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As high a spec as you can get.

lunar burrow
#

well, price you pay for having to be mobile I guess

frank glade
#

Laptops these days are better then the desktop I use for all my work 😅. The new 6900hx vs my 9900k, 64gb of ram vs only 32gb, blazing fast ssds, etc. Only downside are the gpus, but still pretty ok

lunar burrow
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yeah, I also like laptops...

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thinking about getting this legion with AMD and 3080 rtx with 32GB, and just bumping to 64GB.... because they dont sell with 64 out of the store

fallen oasis
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As long as you've got a monitor, mouse and keyboard to plugin in, you're good to go.

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Tbh, I've never seen a laptop with 3 video outs... so I could definitely not use one.

winged thorn
#

32GB is fine in most situtations. 64 GB would be more futureproof

fallen oasis
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"Futureproof"

flat glade
#

well, he did say "more" and not forever

fallen oasis
#

This is true.

lunar burrow
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Nice! Thanks! Much appreciated

winged thorn
#

My GPU arrived. Hopefully this one will be powerfull enough to last me in game development for some time 😀

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lunar burrow
#

niceeeeee

fallen oasis
#

Is win11 a good enough os to even use?

flat glade
#

I'm not touching it until it has actual benefits

fallen oasis
#

Enjoy your ads!

wind egret
#

No more searching in the corners of your 60" TV for the start menu... but there's still stuff in the corners and who uses a 60" TV for a windows desktop

rotund moth
#

I've been using Windows 11 for about a month or so, and so far the experience has been surprisingly positive. I did a clean install and lots of custom configuration to match my preferences, i.e. uninstalling bloatware, turning off features I don't use, etc. but I had to do that with Windows 10, too, so nothing new.

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Once I had everything configured to my liking, I found it to be really enjoyable. I like most of the UI changes, and my experience with Unreal hasn't been much different from Windows 10. Occasional DX11 crashes with UE5 Preview 2 that might be Windows 11 only, but other than that it's been smooth.

#

Yeah bloatware has gotten ridiculous with Windows.

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Even worse when you buy from an OEM.

#

But once you get rid of all that, you can breathe a sigh of relief. 😄

strange mango
#

Hey there,

I need some help in downgrading/upgrading my system, currently an i5 4570, 16G DDR3 and a RX 580 8G

#

Basically the CPU really really holds me back and I've been thinking of replacing it with a beefier CPU by downgrading the GPU possibly

#

My work is in either Premiere or Unreal Engine and I get absurd load times of 3-4 hours on my current CPU which is also an overheating monster currently.

I also considered an R5 5500u laptop due to its portability.

unborn pike
#

how much can you spend?

fallen oasis
#

5500u... that's one tall laptop.

strange mango
strange mango
fallen oasis
#

1u is the height of a rack server. Like 3 inches?

strange mango
fallen oasis
#

What?

strange mango
fallen oasis
#

It's just a joke. Because 1u is a height unit.

strange mango
#

oh bru

fallen oasis
#

And it's called 5500u 😦

strange mango
#

nerd jokes

#

me already failing maths and you making these jokes

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;-;

fallen oasis
#

You are in an unreal engine discord srever.

strange mango
#

I know. But didn't see this coming

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And it's like 1 AM for me so my brain is barely up rn

fallen oasis
#

Lol

chrome girder
#

can anyone help me with an issue?

#

whenever i go into my display settings it displays the wrong monitor I only use 1 but

#

I used one a year or so ago and now its using the settings of the old one

#

my refresh rate is stuck at 60 due to this 0-0

wind egret
strange mango
strange mango
#

Ay I need some help literally.

#

Where is everyone

sharp pumice
#

I keep wavering between these 3 ssd drives for my new setup.
Samsung 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 980 or WD 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Black SN750 or ADATA 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe XPG SX8200 Pro

astral musk
strange mango
strange mango
#

albiet I'll have no GPU or a 2gb gpu

strange mango
tired kelp
#

this much: (------)

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(not to scale)

astral musk
#

Not sure that's some very old hardware. The r5 2600 system would get you more cores and ddr4 ram which would help

tired kelp
#

losing your data isn't worth the difference in price

strange mango
#

will it be worth it, i barely see my gpu get used as compared to my CPU

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which really really drains me and is nearly making me quit

astral musk
#

I can't really answer that. The CPU you currently have is very old and doesn't have many upgrade options.

fallen oasis
sharp pumice
frank glade
#

I vote for the WD!

fallen oasis
#

P5

#

It was like 200 euros.

#

I got it direct from crucial at like 30% off.

median marsh
#

they may be all a good choice

tired kelp
#

WD has supplied me with the longest lasting drives

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I had one that ran for 10 years no issues (10 years was when I replaced it, it was still working at that point)

#

currently run 2 samsung 1 WD

strange mango
median marsh
#

adata isn't "that" popular but i have an normal sata ssd from them and can't complain

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it does what it was advertised with and has a good price/value ratio

oblique spire
#

Just for fun I thought I’d share our UE 5 Dev Specs. Makes working in Unreal 5 a very sweet and smooth experience.

Our Unreal 5 Dev Env.

Alienware Aurora R8
64GB DDR4 at 2666MHz Dual
2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
BDRE Drive (Reads and Writes to Blu-Ray disks)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti OC with 11GB GDDR6
Intel Core i9 9900K (8-Core/16-Thread, 16MB Cache, Overclocked up to 4.7GHz across all cores)

(One each for engineer and artist)

iBUYPOWER Trace5MR Gaming PC - Black (Intel Core i9-11900KF/1TB SSD/32GB RAM/Radeon RX 6900XT/Win 10)

(Dedicated Build Machine)

fallen oasis
#

I would have gone for AMD for a build machine.

#

More cores is always good.

#

Even a 5950 would probalby have been better.

median marsh
#

also i don't know what the blue ray drive purpose is

#

they have a bad storage/price ratio

#

which is kinda expensive for the brand alone, not saying they are bad, but you pay their advertisement

#

what? the 9k series?

#

oh, and skylake is 10th gen?

#

wew

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i only know that 10th gen may be better pick over 11th gen depending on what you want

fallen oasis
#

Also, you have criminally slow ram.

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And your build machine doesn't need a better graphics card than your workstations.

median marsh
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isn't that an nvidia only thing?

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thought it relies on rtx

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ok

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but wasn't gpu LM somehow borked in 5.x?

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i mean, with 32gb ram it does for sure not do much of static lighting on cpu 😄

fallen oasis
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You've definitely got some sort of snakeoil salesman selling you those machines for ue5.

median marsh
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^^

fallen oasis
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And if you're buying that kit for engineers and artists, you could probably have afforded a threadripper for your build machine.

median marsh
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well, maybe they make mobile games 😄

fallen oasis
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Then they should have gotten imacs and stuff as well.

median marsh
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yea, i would rather go with 32GB in the workstations and put 96 in the build machine