hardware

[orchid iron]

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Converter-Reader-Expansion-Internal/dp/B0BK2R7T57?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.kLFnABxj-JjWC23LWWWnY5i1QfOkk6N3dGvjp3JsyOaFJKYuhrTKnDMtpBMVGair4c94D3AT2B03CX0YbPHa1jZMXmkDk4JnqGpe0RfI-MJoiAqyMZFP_549qmqrUpu3M3vsjDIml41H79S2iN6omXcfN6PXJAfNwP7ioCSiDSEkYV5CfHkmc7Wm3NqmOIskTcwQ1IQgFm5IV7-DExcFxg.aVBSJmi40oxeYKmaJcJrl2BP9eUsdcRxZYD2xSrgCps&dib_tag=se&keywords=pci+express+m2+adapter&qid=1758527338&sr=8-15

[grave sundial]

Prices for hardware are going to come down 10-18% in the next couple of days, over here.

👏 Benefits of lower GST. That being said, I still have to wait a bit to buy an 8TB storage.

[orchid iron]

Soon, we'll have a 1PB SSD!

[grave sundial]

PB pshh.
QB WHEN?!!!

[median marsh]

yea but these just route 4x4 to the slot, so it needs 16 lanes

with an nvme which only needs 2 lanes there "could" be cards which only need 8 lanes for 4 ssds

[ocean galleon]

rocking a 13 1/2 year old cpu 😔🙏

[orchid iron]

Nice, that's some chad CPU right there, mine is not that far off, just 10 year old but still kicking!

[ocean galleon]

Yep
I mean compile times, packaging times, and basically anything that involves waiting is horrendously slow but if it works dont fix it lmao

doesnt help with an external harddrive but my equally old motherboard probably doesnt even support m.2 lol

[vernal urchin]

Hi. I have a question that I want to ask. Can my rtx 3060 ti card handle ray tracing, mega lights, hair grooms, lumen, nanite, and big complex large environments?. Because I’ve been feeling bummed out lately when I had ask to ChatGPT of what type of features can my rtx 3060 ti handle in ue5 with my 8gb vram gpu card. And I really don’t like disabling anything that’s gonna make the demanding features look so dull and very low graphics while I’m working my projects in the viewport editor. And I wish I can able to afford like an rtx 40 series card that has 16gb vram that’ll give me breathing room to do large complex scenes that I wanted to do so much. But I can't for right now. I don't have the payment for it as of for now. And plus I don’t feel confident and brightful about my 3060 ti gpu card at this point for using ue5. Had end up taking a break from ue5. For now. Depending

[orchid iron]

See the difference between asking chat GPT and asking humans, is that humans won't hesitate to make you question your intention

First off, all those fancy UE features aren't the only way to make a game look pretty, look at 10 year old games like Arkham knight, they didn't have the same technology, yet people would argue they look better

Don't forget, games are art, they are subjective in nature, as long as the style you go for makes players immersed, it doesn't matter how many polygons your meshes have

Your 3060ti can handle every single features in UE 5.6 it all depends how those features are implemented by you

Which is why it is very important to hone your skills, practice, learn, repeat

If you are starting out, learn that blaming the hardware is the easy way out

[tribal ruin]

3060ti? like on low or medium graphics settings?

[orchid iron]

On high

[tribal ruin]

1080p i guesss

[orchid iron]

It depends how you implement them, what is on your scene, texture sizes, polygon count etc

[tribal ruin]

lets say the City unreal 5 showcase project

[vernal urchin]

yeah, true. You ain't wrong on that

[orchid iron]

Oh yeah, it'll handle it, but you'll only have a few FPS

Now the question I ask back is, what for?

Players who have a 4080 super and above at home?

Remember, PS5 hardware ain't that strong, it is on AMD integrated graphics, yet it can render beautifully games

Why?

The Devs optimised for it

[tribal ruin]

Yup

very few games are well optimized for pC these days

[somber surge]

Well, it's much easier when you only have a single fixed hardware to target, that's why consoles games are generally more "optimized"

They can also apply hardware specific "hacks" and optimizations, and they have some additional hardware units that we don't have on PC

[orchid iron]

What are those additional hardware units?

[median marsh]

no it will not handle it fine

not even close to fine

it may run on a 3060, but you'll get a hard time to load the map in the editor with 8GB video memory

but a 3060 can get you pretty far in my experience, and it's good enough to do most things in UE

it's pretty easy to get to a point where your map takes up >16GB video memory in editor while a 8GB card would be fine to play the packaged game

[somber surge]

They have dedicated units to handle data decompression, and overall a much better IO subsystem

[orchid iron]

Interesting, I wonder if those would work if Linux was installed on it

[ocean galleon]

I run a 1660 with 6gb of VRAM and an i7-3770
While i have my fair share of lag and very slow compile/load times, its doable and workable

ill still hit 40fps on high or ultra settings in editor with other apps running in complex render scenes

so id say a 3060ti can do quite a decent amount more than a 1660

[median marsh]

i've started with a i7-3820 and 1660 and used it the first ~18 months when i started with UE

[ocean galleon]

whatve you got now?

i used to run a 660 😔🙏

[median marsh]

5950x, which was quite the upgrade...

you'll lose your mind if you upgrade to some latest CPU/GPU right now, because the difference can be day and night depending on what you do 😄

[ocean galleon]

im running on skin and bones rn
1660, i7-3770, 16gb of DDR3 1600MHz, external HDD, 2.4ghz capped + no bluetooth motherboard

what i need is a new pc 😭

if i upgrade anything itll be a night and day difference

[orchid iron]

Awesome one, I have the same...in a box, waiting, for that one day xD

[ocean galleon]

Either way, put in a megagrants app for the hell of it and gonna be looking for investors/publishers for my game, so just hoping one day I can afford something better

[median marsh]

new hardware doesn't always boost productivity... sadly 🙁

[ocean galleon]

i mean
does boost the time it takes to compile (which rn can be anywhere from 2 seconds to 2 minutes), time to load maps (about a minute or two), time to load unreal engine (like 5 minutes minimum), no more lag in editor/blueprints, able to actually package the game (because half the time it errors out because of limited RAM or times out, often goes on for >2 hours then half the time errors), and stops my entire PC from freezing when i wanna do... anything. start menu? frozen half the time. Right click a folder? like a 25% chance file explorer freezes for 5 minutes. Wanna alt tab? no.

i think in my case
it may

even downloading a file off of fab can take upward of a minute or two. not because it takes awhile to download, but purely because it takes that long to switch tabs from fab to level

plus, better marketing material when you have access to ray tracing and run at 60 fps consistently

[orchid iron]

@ocean galleon the good thing about all this is that, when your game will be finished, I'm sure it'll run quite well on more budget friendly hardware, thus more players will be able to enjoy your game

[ocean galleon]

Exactly, which is why im not just gonna throw away my pc lol
Its always great to have a baseline on the lowest hardware you can get to see how well it runs for the every day person

but for developing, gets infuriating sometimes lol
especially on tight deadlines

[tribal ruin]

the Shader loading may take more than 10 minutes as well if you have i5 equivalent CPU

[median marsh]

well, i've been there long enough to know 😄

[tribal ruin]

i didnt want to stretch the same dull topic so i was like

https://tenor.com/view/horse-riding-yes-please-oh-gif-21079988

ys ys ys

[median marsh]

but with better hardware you get more sloppy, put optimization to "i can care about that later" etc.

and at the end you just raise the min specs and call it a day 🤷

[toxic axle]

Whats people thoughts on upgrade path from i5 10400F to i7 10900F strictly for gaming. Trying to upgrade fiance PC without changing motherboard? If not worth it may just get newish Ryzen and new Mobo.

GPU = RTX 3070

[ocean galleon]

Nice gpu, personally I’d recommend going and getting a new motherboard and ryzen
For future upgradability, get a AMD AM5 compatible motherboard (as it support current gen and future gen)
But AM4 is still of course good, though no more chips from my knowledge will be made on it

[toxic axle]

Thats a good call. Was hoping to get another year or so out of this system hence looking into CPU upgrade idea.

[ocean galleon]

Im all for letting systems last lol
My current ones lasted for 13 1/2 years

Ive got an i7-3770 in it lol

[toxic axle]

I made a intel i7 2700k system last from 2012 to 2019. then got a Ryzen 3700x until the start of this year. Now running a 9800x3d.

[ocean galleon]

Ah sweet lol
Im just waiting for profits or investors for my game so that I can afford something better
At this point it doesn’t take much to get something better. Tho I’d rather get something good than only a bit better

[toxic axle]

Yep PC components are pricey. Good luck getting the funds.

[ocean galleon]

For the meantime im sweet with sitting on my current build, even with the compile and waiting times
But yeah thanks man, and goodluck with your fiancés build

[toxic axle]

Just need to make it run Borderlands 4 ok and she be happy lol

If anything can run that ok even

[ocean galleon]

Im sure you’ll get it figured out, I don’t have experience muxh with borderlands lol but I’m sure there’s plenty of benchmarks your could look up to see what would pair nicely with the 3070

[orchid iron]

Even a 5090 can't make it run okay, there is no saving grace for that sorry excuse of a game

[delicate crystal]

Couldnt you just use a vm to simulate an okder system?

[wise elbow]

if you're even going to bother upgrading, I'd probably get an i9 for the same socket

borderlands 4 is really poorly optimized

good luck finding a 10850k or 10900k tho

might also be able to get an 11th Gen i9

[orchid iron]

What's the price of a 10900F?

What is the price of a b650 mobo + Ryzen 7600 and a kit of 32gb ddr5?

[wise elbow]

I'm seeing i9 10900k/f/kf used for under 100

For an extra 2 years probably worth it

[wise elbow]

Also assuming you meant i9 and not i7 YOU WILL NEED A NEW COOLER

My old 10850k still ran at almost 100C with a giant noctua brick on it

[gleaming stone]

i upgraded from a 5600x and 6900xt to a 5950x and 5090 this year and my project instantly went from 40-50 fps to 100-120fps lol

[orchid iron]

Somehow it feels like an upgrade from a 6900xt to a 5090 should feel bigger
There might be a bottleneck somewhere else to think about

[somber surge]

The 5950X is definitely a bottleneck

[gleaming stone]

Yeah im still holding onto hope that theres going to be a 16c/32t+ CPU coming with the 3D cache on both CCX's

[somber surge]

Next gen the new 12c X3D will likely beat or equal current hypothetical cpus with 16c X3D

And without any of the multi CCD penalty since it would be on a single CCD

Maybe they'll do the 24c full X3D, but I doubt it since the base cpu cost is already going to be very high because of 2nm 😬

[gleaming stone]

That would be cool, I just don't want any of the problems I read about with games running on the wrong CCX and not benefiting from the X3D like i read about with 7000 series. Although going down from 16/32 to 12/24 feels a bit like a side grade without seeing real world numbers

[somber surge]

The 5950X 16c will get obliterated by that 12c

On frequency alone, it will likely be around +2Ghz compared to the 5950X

[somber surge]

To be frank I haven't noticed many issues with it, I have a 7950X3D and it's running very smoothly, haven't seen many games targeting the wrong CCD, the only issue i've got is that it is very hard to cool even though it is insanely efficient

[gleaming stone]

Yeah i struggle to keep my 5950x below 75-80c with a 360aio on it

[somber surge]

It's even worse than that with Zen 4X3D :p

[tribal ruin]

the Ryzen 7000 series why they have to reach 80-85 C on cold start up? and then maintain 70-78 C on light work not even gaming

i never see below 60C temps on new Ryzens

during heavy gaming its 75-85C

[somber surge]

Yeah by default they are designed to run at the thermal limit to have the most overclock out of them, you can disable PBO to remove that behavior
And the very thick IHS doesn't help either

[gleaming stone]

Tbh it might be worse. I only use my PC in the evening or over night, I've just moved house to a costal town. Humidity is like 75-90% here everyday and it feels so much hotter than my old house in the daytime

[orchid iron]

Aio issue

[tribal ruin]

i just set the thermal Throttle limit to 87 so it stays close to 85, but sometimes i see lag or frame drops in browsing as well.

[tribal ruin]

which CPU you have?

[somber surge]

I doubt it's related to temperature though, it might be something else

[tribal ruin]

its like Ryzens can not operate at 45-59 C this is the behaviour, In Cold Winters as well

[gleaming stone]

Nah, I don't think so. As soon as it idles it drops back down to 35-45c

[somber surge]

On full load yes, but if you're seeing those temps at low usage...the problem is elsewhere

[tribal ruin]

what are your temps when you browsing or Youtubing?

[gleaming stone]

35-45c

[tribal ruin]

im just typing right now and its 70-78C

[gleaming stone]

Gaming or using unreal is normally 75-85c, although in summer when it was 32c in the uk i saw it it 92c

[somber surge]

Well..not sure which cpu you have but it seems like you got some cooling issues

[tribal ruin]

same For me, i will check this winters again

[somber surge]

It is expected for those cpus to run hot on full load, but typing on discord should not give those temps

[gleaming stone]

Fairs. I guess where I went from i7 4770k》5600x》5950x I've not had a CPU like it before

Im used to the I7 and 5600x running at like 65c under full load lol

[tribal ruin]

same i had i5 7600K before this temps were pretty low with Stock cooler lmao

[ocean galleon]

Hour 4 of packaging a handful of slices of levels

It’s by far the thing my build makes the slowest

[orchid iron]

@gleaming stone what's your case?

[gleaming stone]

Asus helios, with 3x140mm fans front intake, 3x120mm fans top aio exhaust and 1x 140mm rear exhaust

All running 1400-2000rpm

[orchid iron]

Have you removed front panel?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ONGbgF6t03w

[gleaming stone]

The glass? No

[orchid iron]

Consider watching this video then
Might be why your 5950x is so hot with an AIO

[tribal ruin]

All your fan and cooling is ok dude, I have talked with multiple people who have AMD 5000 and 7000 series. It's the chip design and behaviour. even at light work it will touch 75C where region outdoor temperatures are 28-36C

[tribal ruin]

This data is from controlled room temps, most probably below 22C.

We are living in very different Hot climate conditions now

[gleaming stone]

22.5c currently in my house, I dunno how much humidity affects hardware but its currently 91% and feels so much hotter to me

Its too hot to sit in the room with my PC under gaming load. Hence why I only game or run ue5 in the late evening/overnight

I need a dehumidifier

[tribal ruin]

Imagine there are cities with outdoor temps are 38-42 c every summer. With out AC their Ryzen will be hiting 85C constantly even during browsing and youtubing.

[gleaming stone]

I hit 92c peak during gaming load when the uk was getting 32-34c about 2 months ago

Literally didnt turn my PC on for 2weeks after that till the weather cooled off

[orchid iron]

@gleaming stone you could also remove the glass Infront of those 3 fans so that more air flows

[gleaming stone]

I cant see how you can take it out. Looks like its all hidden screws

[tribal ruin]

you said 92C and you dont have Mesh front and top? that will increase your temps by 5c compared to mine. (25-28C room temp)

[gleaming stone]

Glass front with small intake area at top and bottom of the glass. Mesh to exhaust

[tribal ruin]

3 of my fans at front are intake, top and back exhaust total 4 fans, all Mesh

[orchid iron]

Yeah, mesh is way better to have than glass

[gleaming stone]

Yeah my next mobo/cpu upgrade im going to go for something like the Lian Li 011D or that Hyte Y60

[wise elbow]

haven't really seen that

the bigger performance hit is a program with threads across both ccds

[tribal ruin]

you see any change after under-volting cpu?

[somber surge]

A bit, but not much

[orchid iron]

Undervolting and over clocking is not very common in a more professional setting

There might be some niche cases like making 192gb clock at 6000 MT/s on am5

But for the most part, default settings are fine (with xmp/expo enabled)

[wise elbow]

I had to undervolt my 9950x3d after turning pbo on

I get really great performance out of it now with roughly 60 C over ambient

x3d CPUs seem really finicky with memory

I couldn't get the base expo profile to work and had to increase voltage slightly

Everyone I know with a x3d IRL has had similar issues

9000 ryzens seem to undervolt really well

[tidal fable]

Hello,

We’ve got a NAS at work running an Intel Xeon Silver 4110 CPU @ 2.1GHz (16 threads), 32 GB RAM, and 6 TB of storage. Each of our PCs runs Unreal Engine 5.6, and we use Helix Perforce as our source control solution.

I’m wondering : could we use this NAS to automate builds ? For example, let it handle compiling so we can just pull down the cache on our machines. Ideally, it would take over some of the heavy lifting to save us time and keep our PCs free for dev work. Or is this kind of hardware realistically only going to serve as storage ?

Basically, I want to know if this setup can significantly boost our productivity, or if it’s better to just keep the NAS as storage and invest in something else.

Pro tips are welcome ! What kind of setup do medium/large studios typically use to boost productivity and streamline workflows ?

[orchid iron]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VbI4BAaSZb8

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoiFMbEuV9I

[visual jay]

https://i.postimg.cc/RFkXxcsz/IMG-20250928-145833446.jpg

just bought this

storm and rainy season has just begun

[orchid iron]

noice, looks flashy

[wise elbow]

at a loss. built a PC with a friend a few months ago and we haven't been able to get it to turn on

have legit replaced everything but the case at least once

[orchid iron]

which are the specs?

[wise elbow]

Now I think it's
Pny 5070
R7 9700x
Asus x870e something
16x2 memory
1kw PSU

It's gotta be the case or some shit at this point

Or just user error

I haven't gotten able to look at it myself in months

I feel so bad because this is his first pc

Confirmed had at least a dud mobo and psu

[vestal tundra]

Need a laptop to work while I'm traveling for the next 6-9 months. Was planning on AMD but Intel CPU laptops are much cheaper. Do they self destruct like the desktop versions?

[wise elbow]

Supposedly no

Supposedly the desktop issue is also fixed now

Supposedly it was also only 13 and 14th gen CPUs

I am just skeptical at any "official" info that came out on this

I think their mobile CPUs are fine though. They perform the same as AMD

[orchid iron]

nothing self destructs, only very rare cases of unfortunate moments, and whatever intel had

[wise elbow]

I'm assuming he meant the 13 and 14 gen issues

[orchid iron]

intel has had better moments

[wise elbow]

Undeniably lol

[orchid iron]

cpu/ram may have been damage due to unfortunate mobo and psu

[wise elbow]

Replaced it

Tbh

I'm convinced at this point it just needs a lot of time to memory train and my friend is impatient

My new desktop needed like an hour for the first boot for whatever reason

[orchid iron]

man, that's unlucky that it is his first pc

[orchid iron]

oh if he didn't wait, yeah that's true

[wise elbow]

My build experience with an amd CPU was honestly rather poor

Lots of memory issues

Seems to be a x3d thing

[orchid iron]

hard to make thinks work over jedec speeds?

[wise elbow]

Probably

Tolerances are very tight now

Very motherboard dependent even for common oc speeda

[orchid iron]

hopefully new memory controller makes things better

[mighty patrol]

https://www.wired.com/story/xiaomi-17-pro-max-hands-on/

[nova moss]

i was used AMD in pass, i dun use them today

[tribal ruin]

what are your specs?

[nova moss]

11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11700
128 GB
RTX 3070
NVME 4 TB

[tribal ruin]

Wovv which softwares use more than 100 gb ram ??

[somber surge]

Unreal Engine

😆

[nova moss]

i also using more than unreal haha, i making modular stuffs using more than 2 different DCC 🤣

[orchid iron]

🇱

[tribal ruin]

How much ram does that use?

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmoN6D1roXM

[orchid iron]

The fact that this issue hasn't been fixed means it is very random and few sample actually fail
Forums have quite a bit of these failures, but x3d CPUs are so popular, still quite impressive there isn't more issues from stacking the cache below cores

Asrock is getting quite a bit of negative press fron this which is unfortunate, really wanted that brand to become more mainstream

[wise elbow]

it sounds like a bad bios or something

I can't imagine the new x3d layout has anything to do with it

seems like CPUs when the boards fail are getting cooked

[mighty patrol]

Seems only asrock having the issue 🤷

[orchid iron]

The issue is that zen5 x3d get cooked in older b650 boards too

So bios isn't only problem

[orchid iron]

Other vendors also have it, but ASRock is way more impacted

[wise elbow]

voltages are also cranked crazy high by default for zen5 I've noticed

[orchid iron]

Way more than zen4?

[wise elbow]

I believe

[orchid iron]

Hopefully it is fixed before zen5 refresh

[agile lodge]

seems good platform for miniNAS https://www.lattepanda.com/lattepanda-iota

[median marsh]

with like 0 s-ata ports 😄

[agile lodge]

https://youtu.be/IxUOOcPgfK0?si=XupVTJcx0_xP6Jyd

[agile lodge]

https://youtu.be/ymrX61x61uM?si=LRI9Cub1_JttWHkP

[mighty patrol]

That was a good one

Can hardly wait to see part 3

[orchid iron]

Out of curiosity, unreal engine allows for direct x 11 packaging, but do all direct x 11 GPU work? Because I have a GPU with direct x 12 feature level (11_0) and most direct x12 games use feature level (12_1) at the minimum

[willow badger]

2 m.2 ssd died under 2 weeks. Anyone has any ideas? I post here because I suspect Unreal Engine - but not sure if that can be possible. Maybe someone heard something;

The secondary SSD died almost two weeks ago.
The computer didn’t recognize it.
Later I connected it to another PC, and it was detected there, but folders were opening very slowly, sometimes it would freeze, and eventually the drive disappeared from the list altogether.
Today it works, but still quite slowly.

A few days ago my primary SSD failed. I got some weird screen error, then a restart, and straight into BIOS – no bootable drives anymore.
That happened in the evening. Earlier that same day, in the afternoon, I had moved my Unreal Engine project from the secondary SSD to the primary one.
I accidentally created an infinite loop, Unreal froze, the computer started lagging heavily, I managed to open Task Manager and close Unreal. Later that evening the SSD died.

Just now I connected the primary M.2 SSD to an external enclosure and it showed nothing – but when I opened Disk Management, it appeared as a new disk. I formatted it, added it, and now I’m restoring a backup onto it with Veeam. I’ll see if everything works.

What could this be about? Is it possible that Unreal was the cause? Could it have started writing like crazy to the drive? Any ideas?

[orchid iron]

Did you change your motherboard recently?

Did you looked up if your SSDs are known for failing?

Unreal engine isn't supposed to damage any kind of components, you could run SSD benchmarks for a long while to check if unreal engine is the sole program causing this

[fresh fog]

even if it was writing like crazy it shouldn't be the program's fault.

if an ssd can't handle sustained writes for 2 weeks then there's something wrong, because it's going to have sustained writes all the time

that would mean anything from the pagefile to installing a game could kill it so it's definitely going to be faulty hardware

how long have you had the ssd's?

[tribal ruin]

How old were they , brand and model id ?

[white horizon]

I've had my M.2s for 3 years, tons of writing on the game dev drive daily from work stuff, no failure

CrystalDiskInfo reports 100% health on my data & game dev drives, 98% health on OS

WD_BLACK SN850X

2TB for the OS, 2x4TB for the Data and Game Dev drives

[willow badger]

2 years old - The ASUS 2022 G15 laptop with an RTX 3070 Ti typically includes a Western Digital PC SN735 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD.
2nd SSD was kingston, a bit older. But funny how they both went bonkers (not dead it seems) in under 2 weeks. It was 96% healthy. Main one.
It was all perfect until.
Some ppl are saying this: https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/reports-say-windows-11-update-is-bricking-drives-is-yours-on-the-list

[wise elbow]

if your GPU supports dx11 I'm pretty sure it works for any dx11.
dx12 feature level 11.0 is still just dx11 capabilities but technically works with dx12 API

so if a game uses dx12 but not any features beyond dx11, it would work

I can't think of a single game that does that though

[orchid iron]

ooooh, now I understand

[orchid iron]

if another ssd break, I'd sus the asus laptop

[willow badger]

Yes, I heard bad things about sus.
1st sign was ctrl button on keyboard. But other than that, its pretty good.

BTW my laptop is now working. Did veam backup.
And secondary is plugged with external housing. But its slower. All tho, ssd doesnt feel like its working fast enough, so I will format it tomorrow and see if that helps.
I should get Lexar 790 2tb, so I will use that as secondary and my current one for some backup.

I have no clue what happened. Only strange thing was that with Unreal. Then reports people SSDs dying with windows update.
Or I dont know if laptop itself could have do that, some short or some stuff. Oo

[willow badger]

Main SSD is 2 years old, with laptop.
WD SN735
Secondary is Kingston, Nv1 2tb. Dont remember exact model. Its in housing now, so I cant check now. But I think its not that good. Its about 3 years old. Used in Desktop and then moved in my laptop. It has been burned at 90c since then : p.

[orchid iron]

my money is on laptop bios / laptop motherboard somehow destroying those drives

[willow badger]

I'll check for updates and search about that to see if anyone has similar issues.

BTW do you people install Unreal on main OS drive or secondary drive?

I just found 60gb megascans library in my documents... ugh

[orchid iron]

main drive, secondary partition

[tribal ruin]

Laptop ssds are smaller right ? Bcoz desktop ssds come with 5 year warranty if i remember correctly

[willow badger]

No same size, 2280. Not sure how is warranty with one I got with laptop, but laptop warranty was 2 years, now its a bit older than 2. And I am back using that ssd after format and backup.
2nd one, I think it maybe has 1 more year warranty, but I dont have receipt or box anymore because I traveled for 2 years, so stuff got lost in the middle of things.
New SSD should arrive today, with 5 yr warranty, will warranty properly stored now 😄 .

[tribal ruin]

This is a lesson for everyone. Ssds are most important for your pc as OS is loaded from it. KEEP THE RECEIPT SAFE for 5 years!

[willow badger]

Agreed. And its critical to do backups regularly. I do it daily. Saved me 2 times now.

[wise elbow]

UE5 shouldn't be killing a drive. Sounds like a hardware failure

[willow badger]

I dont know man. Its working now, both discs. But I got new one, so I am using main OS one, and new one. And secondary is now in external as backup something.
I mean, so far its, Unreal writing to disc like crazy due to some loop with scriptable tools, etc. Maybe not but they went similar.
Hardware failure of 2 SSDs in similar way.
Windows messing them up what people have been reporting.
Or maybe solar flare or some stuff like that, coz neighbour car has issue starting, then my car, and my brother's monitor was acting weird today.
Or maybe aliens.

[wise elbow]

I use unreal regularly and have never had any issues with it

It would have to write a LOT to damage it

It could just be thermal issues

[orchid iron]

true, he didn't say what his temps was

[agile lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6wUk44HtO8

[orchid iron]

ah yes, this looks like pathetic lake alright, but nice that intel is now showcasing for of their engineers on camera instead of the marketing team

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/SmTH9JPjEh8?si=1qxDsBWp-ml3hiMF

[fallen oasis]

They were definitely stoned when they came up with that.

[delicate crystal]

As someone that went through dealing with faildd nvme drives and worried inlost everytjing, defintely second this

[orchid iron]

I follow the rule of keeping 2 back ups on site, and one back up off-site

Also yes, I use git local repo of a git local repo

[gleaming stone]

Anyone here know much about servers/ server blades?

My friend that works in a data centre in London upgraded all their equipment and has given me 4 server blades. All running 48c/96t xenon cpus with 196gb ram.

I know nothing about servers, can I link these 4 blades together somehow and run/host UE5 on them?

[ancient moon]

You can run a swarm server/cluster to help with certain builds inside the engine. The engine itself would still run on your computer, but you could offload lighting builds and things like that.

If you regularly build the engine or your giant C++ project from source, you can also get something like Incredibuild which will allow you to compile across multiple machines.

Bear in mind, these are loud, hot, and power hungry machines. You probably won't end up running all of them 24-7, unless power is very cheap where you live.

[orchid iron]

Just one is enough for most projects

How big is your unreal engine project for you to think about uniting them all together?

Also, you might be able to sell them at a really nice price, maybe sell just 1 or 2 so you could upgrade GPU maybe

[gleaming stone]

Its more a case of he gave them to me and I didnt know what to do with them lol, as for GPU upgrade im running a 5090 in my main pc atm and a 6900xt in my old pc

[orchid iron]

Start hosting services

Cheapest pack: 1 core 1 GB of ram 10 GB of storage for 3$ per month

Medium: 2 core 10 GB of ram 50 GB of storage 20$ per month

Professional: 10 cores 100gb of ram 300 GB of storage 120$ per month

[median marsh]

10/10 would host at someone who can't spell Xeon correctly 😛

i think he's gonna spend more time on learning/setup than he's gonna save in the end when trying to use them for UE

[gleaming stone]

Well I have plenty of time on my hands. I dont work as such, im a carer for my elderly mum who lives with me

[fallen oasis]

I've been there. 100% recommended getting a job and hiring someone.

[agile lodge]

for the stack this could be nice solution perhaps https://youtu.be/zfjHudNoiqs?si=slc5bqf_tDxMJhYQ

[median marsh]

if you want to learn, sell 3 and keep one

it's likely impossible to utilize them meaningful alone

one alone however can be useful to move some tasks and unblock your workstation, e.g. making builds, etc. (also good for backup)

[delicate crystal]

As someone that had an old server, id echo selling the rest. Im sure part of my.hearingnloss is from dealing with how loud those fans are, and four is overkill unless youre planning a rendering farm

[median marsh]

yea they gonna be loud af with a xeon in a 1HU case

[gleaming stone]

That's fair, any ideas what one of those blades might go for?

A rough Google search is showing anything from £800- £5k lol

[orchid iron]

check prices of similar spec-ed blades on ebay?

[stable trellis]

Hey guys, Im currently looking for a laptop as a second machine to take to co working spaces, cafes, presentations or conventions so I can work on the go. Do you have any recommendations for a solid laptop that runs unreal decently?

[orchid iron]

Depends on what performance you expect from a laptop, also is Ray tracing/ ai important for your work?

Also, do you enjoy being able to repair a desktop yourself or would you let a professional repair it (asking because some laptops are easier to repair than others)

[tribal ruin]

Depends on your use case. You have main machine right?

[stable trellis]

I built my own pc and don’t mind the working on hardware stuff. It will be just for coding c++ mainly. Level design, lighting and gpu heavy stuff I would do on my main mashine

[stable trellis]

Yes it would be mainly for programming on the go or doing some rough block outs.

[wise elbow]

id reccomend at least a 5060 and a Ryzen 7 or Intel 7

and probably 32-64 GB of memory

12gb of vram or more and a i9/ryzen9 would be ideal as well as 64gb of memory

IMO though you can get by with very little as long as you have a decent CPU and memory and a somewhat modern gpu

I still regularly use an old Thinkpad for ue5 and while it isn't optimal, it works good enough for when I'm away from home

just saw you would mostly code lol

yeah a 5060 or something with good memory and a CPU is fine

I would probably go to a store and ask clerks for new "low end" gaming laptop reccomendations

every manufacturer has some stinker models

[orchid iron]

Framework makes laptops around the concept that customers should be able to repair/upgrade their laptop easily if they wanted to, so that's why if you want this laptop to last you a long time and don't mind spending a bit of a premium, you should get one so that you'll be able to repair it easily, they even sell their laptop parts

For a more traditional approach, Lenovo got quite a good reputation of ease of repair and maintenance, but be sure to look online for reviews since I believe their very thin laptops are just as glued and soldered as your average Asus laptop

Lastly, you could also look up second hand professional enterprise laptops, they are a whole tier above average customer laptops (gaming laptop included) and are built to last and easily be repaired

[orchid iron]

Some low end gaming laptops only have integrated graphics

[wise elbow]

I wouldn't even call that a gaming laptop

[orchid iron]

I know, and I wouldn't even call a 4090 on a laptop the same as a 4090 on a desktop

But here we are anyways

How much vram did a 5090 have on a laptop? 16gb?

[wise elbow]

I think it's 24

4090 mobile had 16 though

I agree the names should be different

at least put a "m" on it

[orchid iron]

I know right!
They used to do that, I have a Nvidia 960m laptop and that makes it clear it is different from a desktop Nvidia 960

[wise elbow]

I think the 10 series made the mobile GPUs identical to the desktop ones apart from power limits

So they made the naming consistent

No clue when that changed again

[orchid iron]

Marketing BS if you ask me, whenever people look up how good a 4090 and a 5090 are, they are probably standing in front a of a laptop with them in it, not realising that reviewers review desktop GPUs, not laptop ones!

but they have the same name

For me that's false advertising, and they should be sued by the government for it

[tribal ruin]

Yup there are litterly 7-8 types of 4070, ti, super, ti super , OC

So Confusing

[wise elbow]

the supers made it so much worse

and there were different 4070s with different memory speeds, right?

[tribal ruin]

yup

[wise elbow]

4070 super was also substantially faster than base 4070 iirc

all the funnier when they compare a 5070 to base 4070

[orchid iron]

Gotta remember

The 70 class of GPUs are the highest a gamer would need

Everything above would be for professionals or luxury

So we can charge the models above it insane prices let's goooo

(and funny enough, the classes above 70 were the most affected during the 600 watt cable melting issues 😢 )

[tribal ruin]

Yes according to my understanding 4070 ti super 16 gb should run All the Games 4k Rtx High EASILLY.

But i see even 4090 5090 struggling to maintain 60fps 4K high

[orchid iron]

With the exception of poorly optimised games on launch...unless you use the power of AI ||To render the games at 1080p instead of 2160p and to render 1 real frame out of 4 ||

[wise elbow]

I honestly have no problem with relying on dlss for performance

but rely on it to hit higher than 24 fps LIKE COME ON

[wise elbow]

tbh it mostly can unless you use path tracing

and some games just run like dogshit

[median marsh]

https://videocardz.com/newz/mirror-mirror-under-the-gpu-whos-the-fairest-graphics-card-of-them-all

[orchid iron]

People in the comments are saying this increase the GPU temps by a few degrees

They might be missing the point of this fancy item ngl

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-confirms-geforce-rtx-5080-hatsune-miku-price-at-1899-90-above-nvidia-msrp

The art was generated by that GPU probably xD

[mighty patrol]

Yo looks to good to be real

[median marsh]

i don't think that the concern is based on any facts

i feel like it could rather optimize airflow since there's less dead spots 🤷

[orchid iron]

Maybe the point was that there is an object in-between the bottom fan and the GPU

But again...if someone wanted to optimise air flow, they probably wouldn't buy an item which is purely for showcase

[mighty cosmos]

It's a midrange card, not something I would expect to run 4k high well

[grave sundial]

There's a new brand of miniPCs doing the rounds in India, called SkullSaints. ☠️ Affordable, and cool sounding name. 😄

[orchid iron]

That does sound very gamer

[grave sundial]

I think that's where they're headed. From what I understand, they are rebranding N1000s or N100s or something from China and selling them. They've got some really cheap ones and the most expensive one is roughly $650-700.

There are some limitations to them, though, like 32GB RAM maximum.

[gleaming stone]

Yeah with my 5090 running Doom:DA or Indy Jones, it deffo dropped below 240fps (4x FG) consistantly at 4k

Lowest I've seen was 190fps, so ÷4 is like, what 40-45fps?

[gleaming stone]

Although thats running DLSS Balanced too so I guess true 4k would be considerably lower

[tribal ruin]

Im not expecting Intense RTX games like Cyberpunk to run more than 60fps with 4070ti super but many games should run fine with that Card on 4K60fps with light rtx or No rtx.

[orchid iron]

Has anyone tried running unreal engine direct x11 packaged games on Nvidia 200 or 400 series?

[wise elbow]

They support dx11 but they're so old I don't think very many people use them

[orchid iron]

perfect

[agile lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEXRJ20Oals

[orchid iron]

I like how ai Response is completely different from first 2 search results

[feral cypress]

Im pretty sure they are talking about different things (I might be wrong)

Bc the google ai specifies Ryzen AI 7 PRO 360 not the Radeon 300 series unless they are the same thing

[orchid iron]

yeah, they are completely separate things, the amd radeon 300 series is a very old gpu series and I was looking for specs and release date of those models

And the amd ryzen 300 series is the APUs they make (mostly cpu cores, but there is NPU and GPU tiles) which is very recent and quite strong

but the fact the AI recommended me the latest thing instead of the thing I was actually looking for (first 2 search results)

is quite funny

[feral cypress]

It is

[orchid iron]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pA-R1FabTDY

[sweet island]

This might help explain the key differences between Nvidia GPU generations. For traditional gaming, there aren't necessarily huge performance differences between high-end RTX cards (no major MHz boosts), but the difference in processing times becomes significant for AI computing workloads. The jump from Compute Capability 8.9 to 12.0 and the evolution from 4th to 5th generation tensor cores is substantial. The fifth-generation tensor cores are specifically optimized for AI-enhanced rendering tasks (DLSS and other advanced features).

[somber surge]

It doesn't change anything for DLSS and such though

RTX 4000 perform pretty much the same as RTX 5000 even with the latest-much more heavy DLSS 4 model

The gap between 3rd and 4th gen Tensor Core seems to have been much more substantial as RTX 3000 do get a much larger performance penalty with DLSS 4

[sweet island]

True, true. But here we come to the point that they are using the same software not the full capacity of technology. As I said: no major changes in actual game performance, but differences are substantial in actual AI workloads. So lets roll our thumbs and see what people come up with. I personally have been trying to get the most outta it and for example running models on TensorRT inference with RTX5080(sm120) is blazing fast and faster in some tasks than 4090 (sm80). But you are right, in gaming they perform so far about the same.

[median marsh]

the large difference in AI usage is because of the memory speed

[sweet island]

That too GDDR6 vs. GDDR7 and memory badwith difference about 800 GB/s. Also PCI-E interface 4 -> 5th gen. But how fast mr. AI "thinks"/"thinking unit" is pretty well demonstrated by CC and tensor throughoutput. In practise: FLUX.dev fp16 takes about 23gb vram on 4090 and renders a picture in 30 secs. Same model fp4 10gb and 5 seconds on rtx5090 without significant difference. Nvidia, pay me XD

[mighty cosmos]

my 5090 is about 1.8-2x faster for ML tasks than my 4090
The jump between 4090 and 5090 is massive in memory bandwidth bound tasks, like ML

in games it's usually around 35-50% depending on the game

[somber surge]

I'm not denying that the RTX 5000 aren't faster in ML, they just aren't faster when it comes to DLSS as the first post suggested :p

I sure hope they are faster in other ML tasks, that's pretty much the only upgrade on Blackwell

[orchid iron]

What about GPU cache capacity and cache size? It is missing from the list

[gleaming stone]

Obviously not gen jumping but the difference in gaming usage between my 6900xt and 5090 is so substantial, honestly think its more than I've ever seen between upgrades before

My current ue5 project jumped from 60fps to locked 120fps instantly. Everything i try with new this GPU, its just easy

[sweet island]

First post did not suggest that. It suggested that 5th generation tensor cores are optimized for these tasks. And those are not yet fully harnessed.

[sweet island]

There you go XD

[wise elbow]

i dont think anyone knowledgeable is saying there wasnt a compute difference between latest generations. for gaming its been minor in most cases, but for everything else its rather significant

[orchid iron]

Sorry, meant to say cache speed instead of size, capacity and size are same thing xD
Ignore my sleepy self

Didn't get coffee today

[sweet island]

Lack of coffee is terrible. Quickly, bottoms up😂

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGe_fq68x-Q

Yooooo!

[grave sundial]

48 + 48GB?

[mighty patrol]

Seems possible

He didn't take it apart like he usually does I don't think.

Oh wait nvm

I forgot I didn't finish the video yet.

[orchid iron]

LPDDR4X is significantly cheaper and has significantly worse specs

But that capacity feels perfect for things like AI

[mighty patrol]

This thing only works with specific Huawei servers too

So nothing in the west will run it 😂

[orchid iron]

Has anyone ever tried to use a modern sata SSD on a 2009 computer?

[median marsh]

i use one in a 2007 laptop (but the ssd is also kinda old by now)

[orchid iron]

Just thinking about getting an old workstation from 2010 for cheap, and I was thinking about moving my SSDs (2020) to it

[median marsh]

i wouldn't even think twice

ssd is the best upgrade you can do to any PC with HDD

[orchid iron]

Oh yeah, absolutely

[wise elbow]

it'll breathe new life into it

[tribal ruin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZL-dQmN36Nk?si=cc15GoKYNGhAL0Ck

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qCxTs7QwgLk?si=n6CqS_PQ9As76N4A

[grave sundial]

https://www.amazon.in/WD_BLACK-Western-Warranty-Internal-WDS800T2X0E/dp/B0D9WT512W

Roughly $797 here. 😄

This was SO expensive before. Yay for price reductions.

There are still $1400 ones around. But... I'll take what I can gets. 😄

[mighty patrol]

PCIe gen 5 when

[orchid iron]

Solid!

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/pNu8JxDemNw?si=HHutvtwpU8LQ8_sO

Found something else solid xD

[subtle rock]

unstable they said it would be

[subtle rock]

top tip for you impatient speed freaks out there .. let the bios memory SPD detection finish before you decide its impossible!

its a long way down from 7000 to 4200

[grave sundial]

I have my 64GB at 6000 MT/s. 😄

Based on my research, what I did was disable that mem training - quick whatever option in BIOS. Well, it was already disabled, I just kept it that way.

Never had a single problem with le RAM.

[opaque pond]

i have my 32gb at 3200MT/s

[grave sundial]

matching digits! 🙂

[mighty cosmos]

The challenge is 4 high capacity (dual rank) dimms 😉

[orchid iron]

Ngl, when I first saw that capacity amount I thought:
"Nice amount of DDR3 RAM, he probably has a dual CPU workstation on LGA 1366"

And then I look at the 7000MT/s xD

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qf90_1qTJrU?si=XYzjvFv_gopWMqa9

Now this is interesting, if a PSU company told them to do that...how would the warranty work...

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/ERJJp-5HdQs?si=O5rNRgZj2woxgcBJ

[plush turret]

which should i pick?

[median marsh]

neither

why are they so expensive?

[wise elbow]

pcie4 is probably more than enough

depends on use case

[mighty patrol]

https://my.mbuzztech.com/portal/en/kb/articles/m-2-ssd-tier-list

[plush turret]

replace my C drive which is currently a 500gb pcie3

[wise elbow]

does your motherboard support pcie4 or 5?

and do you do things other than game?

[plush turret]

mostly game and local hosted Ai stuff

[white horizon]

Can someone recommend a good high capacity M.2 ssd for work

Got moved to another project and it's 1TB just for it

ignoring the engine I had to download and all

[orchid iron]

4TB or 8TB?

[white horizon]

4TB minimum

8TB if worth it

and not to the detriment of speed/durability

[orchid iron]

Samsung 990 pro is solid price to performance wise

[white horizon]

right now I have a WD Black iirc

SN850X

3 of them, 2TB and 2x4TB

[white horizon]

about 100 CAD more than the WD, is it that good?

[orchid iron]

Only main difference is 4gb of ram instead of 2gb on the WD
Not worth 100 CAD
What about the 8TB version of the WD ? What's the price

[white horizon]

829 CAD on Amazon before taxes

[orchid iron]

If it slightly over double the price of the 4TB then it is pretty interesting price, but more than that and just buy the 4TB versions

[white horizon]

a little less than double

so might go with that one I guess

put my own projects on the 8TB and use the 4TB for work only

ouchie price wise though oof

[orchid iron]

AI making ram and SSD prices go YEET

Also tariffs

[grave sundial]

4TB WD Black PCIe Gen4 - $263
8TB same brand - $729.01
Here, in India, now. 🙂

I protest that 1 penny for the 8TB. It's extortion. 😛

There's also an alleged 8TB Pci Gen 3 nvme for $250-ish.

[white horizon]

might just bite the bullet and go with 8TB

[grave sundial]

I trust that listing with a kilo of salt, but interesting...

[median marsh]

check out price for the 990evo?

[grave sundial]

standby. Please transfer 10 TIm coins in consultancy fees.

[median marsh]

no, i have one already 😛

[grave sundial]

Ben, what capacity are you asking about? Also Evo and/or Evo Plus?

[median marsh]

4TB

evo plus

[grave sundial]

$338 USD

[plush turret]

yeah im looking for a 2+ TB nvme for my MB

the MB i have: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09KKYXXQB

[median marsh]

i would go for 4TB at least

speed is secondary imho as long as you pick a recent branded SSD, they're all fast...

[plush turret]

looking to stay under $400 usd cause thats 2 months savings

my current SSD is old, like 2018 old but its a tank for some reason

its survived multiple problems, including a PSU that literally blew a main capacitor, a slight fire in a laptop, and the abuse of being used as a swapped drive between dekstop and laptop for years

Samsung PM961 512GB NVMe SSD

also a self encrypting drive

[orchid iron]

Yeah, there are bunch of 4TB drives under that price

Check WD black sn850x 4TB
And Samsung 990 pro 4TB

[grave sundial]

4 tubby is nice.
8 tubby is best buddy, but costly bubbly.

|| Yes, I know that doesn't make sense. ||

[median marsh]

i would prefer the 990 evo plus over the pro

it can use 2x pci gen5 lanes (the pro is only 4x pci gen4)

[orchid iron]

16 tubby is quadrubuly bubbly, to meet him is to be left muddy

[grave sundial]

32 tubby could be cuddly.
Disclaimer: Appropriate security precautions apply.

[orchid iron]

lmaoooo

[plush turret]

mainly just want a larger c drive for games and programs that doth protest disk drives

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JJJLq1US5vc?si=gyV0NNRK6BWtf2bi

[tribal ruin]

500gb c drive enough for you ?

Any perticular reason you want larger?

[plush turret]

because games are getting larger and im being forced to constantly shuffle whats on the C drive because some really get performance impacts when not on an SSD

like when i initially played starfield on a 14tb disk drive it stuttered during cutscenes

[mighty patrol]

That and you can have more free space

[plush turret]

yeah

i mean some games like GTAV work fine on either, but some, especially UE4/5 based games really work better on SSD's than my datacenter grade disk drives

[mighty patrol]

I normally partition 20% of a drive off to make sure I can never actually fill it though.

[plush turret]

and my only other SSD is 1TB but its NOT a desktop drive

[mighty patrol]

Samsungs overprovision settings

[plush turret]

its a removable media drive from one of those sandisk X-treme external drives

i simply pulled it out of the enclosure and stuck it in the slot

[mighty patrol]

I got a ugreen m.2 adapter

That thing works great

[plush turret]

lol

i have 2 adaptors

1 is a proper adaptor enclosure

the other is the M.2 to USB-C converter from that external enclosure

[mighty patrol]

Think it's this, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D2NHJT6T

[plush turret]

yeah i have that but like $15 and cheap as shit

[mighty patrol]

I usually go mid-tier

[plush turret]

so, went hunting and my 1tb is a Western Digital Blue SN550

[mighty patrol]

Cheaping outs bitten me in the butt too many times

[plush turret]

what i love is that my HP Elitebook HATES that drive with a PASSION

like straight up refuses to boot period

[mighty patrol]

😮

[plush turret]

acts like you fed it something illegal

[mighty patrol]

Remind me I need an AIO

[plush turret]

wants some sort of drive unlock password that I never put on it

my desktop just goes "sweet dude, more physical storage, right on bro"

[mighty patrol]

Lol

[plush turret]

the hp laptop? "hell to the fuck no, i dont know this drive, i dont like this drive, and its mother was a filthy toaster"

but yeah want 2-4tb to have some storage room

plus i can move the existing drive for backups

dont know how much life it has left but that drive deserves at least one purple heart

[mighty patrol]

Crystaldiskinfo?

https://i.imgur.com/LcRG8Hy.png

[plush turret]

send me yours? my luck ill click the wrong shit and get my drives wiped

why i never let anyone touch my pc anymore

[mighty patrol]

https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskinfo/

This is useful to, https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskmark/

[plush turret]

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-im-in-danger-ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-gif-14149962

those on hours holy

[mighty patrol]

Sheesh

[plush turret]

4.1 years of continous use

[mighty patrol]

My 7 year old drive doesn't even look that bad 😮

[plush turret]

1.7 years for my main drive

https://tenor.com/view/that-hardly-seems-likely-spock-star-trek-that-seems-unlikely-i-doubt-it-gif-23502139

i usually have drives till they burn out

that power on number cant possibly be right

unless ive restarted my pc only 63 times in the last 18 months?

I mean i fear the on hours of my server rig

that thing doesnt shut down until power goes out

once had 670 days of constantly on

its poor $28 CPU must be almost dead

[mighty patrol]

As soon as I build a nas I am retiring my media pc

May have a 2080 super to sell

[plush turret]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A4-7300+APU&id=2357

this is the cpu i torment in my server pc

hey its now down to $18 in value

[mighty patrol]

Does the job

[plush turret]

like a champ

tbh despite only being dual core and ancient and the fact i initially tried to put i in backwards... its been pretty good at running stuff

I love these rankings

this means of all 5,421 tested CPU's this thing is worse than 70% of them...

[mighty patrol]

Could be worse

[plush turret]

oh totally

and for $18 thats not that bad

but i have to wonder the age of most of those worse ones

[orchid iron]

Looks like my 1TB HDD from 10 years ago

[plush turret]

lol

[errant knoll]

Hi guys, I want to buy a graphic card and I'm thinking about
Rtx 5070 and Rx 9070xt
I like 9070 more but wondering if it works well with 3d soft and unreal
What do you think?

[orchid iron]

Depends if you want to use AI a lot
Also depends on the price of these, what are your regional prices on the 5070, 5070 ti, 9070 and 9070xt?

[errant knoll]

9070xt cost 70$ more than rtx 5070 and 5070ti cost 250$ more than 9070xt
Mostly i will use Substance, Marmoset and Unreal

[errant knoll]

You mean ai like stable diffusion etc. or Dlss / FSR?

[orchid iron]

if the price difference is that large between the 5070ti and 9070xt then the 9070xt looks much more promising

right now FSR and dlss are equals when they both work, you might encounter a bit more issues running fsr 4 than the latest dlss version, but overall it is no longer a major selling point

But if you wanted to generate AI art and whatnot, nvidia will offer better performance...Although with your local prices, I'm not sure it is all that interesting anymore

[errant knoll]

Just interesting to ask if someone uses 9070xt for baking in Marmoset or a similar program
Because i have rx 6700xt and from time to time i have GPU drivers crash
And don't know if new cards still have the same problems

[somber surge]

The 9070XT is definitely preferable to the 5070

Even without talking performances, those pitiful 12GB won't last long

[wise elbow]

if you can actually get one for 600 dollars it's probably preferred

AMDs CUDA equivalent still doesn't have as good of support as NVIDIA but it's getting there

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/IY5Ak33rPg8?si=XtrjUDlGJMux7zDr

[near gale]

I just picked up a 7900xt on Amazon for a bit shy of 600 as well and like it a lot so far.

[plush turret]

i mean it really depends on you ability to sit and wait too

i use my 3060 12gb for SD generation and its not terribly slow.

and the 3060 was the best gpu on a price for vram deal ever

waiting to see what the 60 series has before upgrading

[orchid iron]

still one of the best gpu per price, the 6060 will very likely only have 12gb too

[white horizon]

oof

my other drives are at 99%

they're 4tb though

somehow my game dev work drive has less writes than the OS drive

kinda figured I'd have more considered how much I download onto it daily

[plush turret]

yeah this thin... this poor poor drive

[plush turret]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-rookie-numbers-gif-20904132

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/YAz8vpO0LzI?si=n6Lcb916DHiiY1C1

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/qw4fDU18RcU?si=Ffs8Sfsf-X4eyIF8

Prewds went ham again

[plush turret]

why is he anti ai this time?

[orchid iron]

Not specifically anti-ai, just more anti-cloud AI in which you have no control over what happens on there

Also the first few minutes are absurdily unhinged and based

[tribal ruin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/dL_wkMoIQAU?si=7cnqe2Z0ejTGQpOI

[orchid iron]

How'd you find asmongold's pc?

[tribal ruin]

Don't know about that but tomorrow morning I'm cleaning my room. Fkkk rats

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8oOfvD98jk0

[orchid iron]

Spookay

[orchid iron]

https://hwbusters.com/news/u-s-and-china-agree-on-one-year-tariff-truce/

[sick cedar]

Are ram prices rising?

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/L7uysV5viP4?si=uc42xWrgF97Bp-2Z

Kinda funny how I felt bad about buying a 5950x in 2024 for 320€ and now it is 260€

Meanwhile the 128gb ddr4 that I got for 240€ just went to 600€

[wise elbow]

wow yeah lol the memory I bought at the start of the year is almost double now

[sick cedar]

So where are my low priced DDR6

[orchid iron]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806989214008.html

[sick cedar]

oh damm lol

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnnMh2YRJ70

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Aw4kkWlBO-U?si=LkswQzv9S8N7zcsF

[orchid iron]

Leatherbound could be used in many contexts

[tribal ruin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TN1UWf5yu1c?si=4Lc-R02rTuo-tv0q

[orchid iron]

At least Samsung had the balls to admit 5% adoption rate for their AI

Also I loved the apple intelligence text summaries, browsed that Reddit so much when it happened

[orchid iron]

Man, I can't wait for the AI crash of 2028
I'll be able to buy like 512gb of ECC ddr4 for around 500$

[tribal ruin]

Crash is coming for sure just like Crypto

[somber surge]

When they will start to charge what they actually need to charge to run those services, the crash will likely happen

Everyone knows it's nowhere near profitable with the current pricing model

[orchid iron]

A lot of the data centers and resources are allocated to actually set all the parameters in AI training

Kinda like those videos AI day 0 Vs AI day 100

The cost of running the AI after that initial upfront cost is actually quite fair and could theoretically be run in most local devices

[icy tree]

Hi everyone! I’m working on an MMORPG in Unreal Engine 5 and I’d like to know what kind of PC setup you’d recommend for this type of project. My current specs are a Ryzen 7 5700X3D, RTX 4070, and 32GB of RAM. Do you think upgrading any of these components, like the CPU, RAM, or storage, would noticeably improve compile times, level loading speed, or overall editor performance?

[orchid iron]

Depends the graphics of your game, ideally for an mmorpg, even old hardware should be able to run your game, so direct x11 support
Meaning potentially 2gb vram GPUs and 8gb ram system should be able to run it if you want as many players as possible

In that case your setup should be enough

And even if it isn't, you'll take quite a bit of time learning how to code and how to optimise that you'll be able to save up for some upgrades later if it is a requirement

[icy tree]

I was referring to the workflow inside the engine when working on an MMORPG with very large levels and lots of heavy assets. The game runs smoothly in the final build, I’m looking for a PC that can speed up my workflow when handling large-scale projects.

[orchid iron]

Anything "large scale" requires a lot of ram, a lot of VRAM and fast SSD storage

Those are the main ways to speed up your workflow

And after that comes computational power like powerful CPU and GPU

Unfortunately right now ram prices are skyrocketing, and SSD prices are also somewhat increasing

That's why I'm asking, what is your role in making that mmorpg? You solo everything or you only focus on specific tasks like level design?

[icy tree]

i'm from programming team

[orchid iron]

Nice, then you'll be able to get by with much less
In theory you don't need to view the levels very often since most of your work can be done in empty levels, just testing if your code works or not

I'd reccomend getting a 5950x and trying to increase your ram amount from 32gb to 64gb
If you are only using 2 dimm slots out of 4, then you can just by an extra kit to slot in

But if your motherboard only has 2 dimm slots, then you'd have to upgrade your motherboard too

[orchid iron]

Also, which CPU cooler do you have?

[icy tree]

this one, Air Cooler Redragon Tyr

SKADI*

[orchid iron]

alright, I'd also upgrading to a thermalright cpu cooler with dual towers like the thermaright phantom spirit evo 120

[tribal ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SmTH9JPjEh8

[orchid iron]

freaking loved that when I saw it, so good

[feral cypress]

Yall look at this deal at best buy

Elite pull ngl i tried building it in the microcenter pc builder with the 9800X3D deal and it was 1924 bucks so either way this is an elite best buy pull

[orchid iron]

Pretty good yeah

[tribal ruin]

Guys I was cleaning my House look what I found

All games for windows Live bs 😭

[orchid iron]

Nooooo 😭

[tribal ruin]

Assassin's creed code worked and also civilization, gta IV not gonna work it seems

[tribal ruin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/mOHbj7SKnhQ?si=0jmITyJDnIdVAcat

[orchid iron]

BANANA

[feral cypress]

This also comes with with windows 11 installed, 6 months of antivirus software, gamepass ultimate 1 month, and nitro 1 month

Also for monitor, what 27 inch monitor should i get for a budget? Rn i put an LG IPS FHD 120hz monitor with HDR10 for about 100 bucks. Is that good price to performancd? (Getting from bestbuy btw)

This is the monitor

And do yall think this desk is reliable for a setup on carpet?

[tough owl]

I bet that desk is small af

not sure why retailers try to overcompensate while photoshopping the product images

[mighty patrol]

I mean 42* wide would hold that monitor fine

[feral cypress]

And do you think it could fit a PC jn that lower compartment?

(im pretty sure mid sized tower its the one above)

[orchid iron]

all this stuff is basically free, it is products they are trying to get you into so that you continue your subscription with that

[feral cypress]

Makes sense

And i have confirmed the desk will not fit the PC and cannot support its weight

[orchid iron]

That's fine, it wasn't necessary in the first place

Not even that great, buy some wood and do your own desk is what I recommend xD

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MAJg3mWtRCI

[median marsh]

just dip your laptop in clear coat /s

[tough owl]

cool idea, but how does the coating handle heat

also screw laptops, do keyboards instead

those are the real water damage victims

[delicate crystal]

have a t630 gathering dust. Has 512gb of ram, two CPU's for 48 cores. Wondering what would be the best GPU's I could throw into this behemoth, or if I even can.

[orchid iron]

What do you wanna do?
AI ?

[delicate crystal]

Ai is one option for sure (also open to other usrs too)

[orchid iron]

Server hosting business?

[delicate crystal]

lol nah, did that yeas ago, ain't worth the headache

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/A0Hu7_mlQbU?si=0BWf0jrbavC00mU3

[tribal ruin]

Why epic launcher ongoing download feels dead most of the time then it writes something on storage, stop download install, download looks dead for long time before it writes on storage again?

[orchid iron]

Either server issues or the launcher gets visually bugged sometimes

Just let it sit there until it finishes

[tribal ruin]

No option in settings to re set the server or clear the cache or something??

for 12 gb download it took almost 8 hours to complete

Terrible experience

[orchid iron]

Maybe a VPN?

[orchid iron]

Ooooh, 5.7 just released, now it makes sense, your nearby servers may have been overwhelmed

In which case yeah, using a VPN to forcefully change server is better @tribal ruin

[tribal ruin]

good that i didnt put it on overnight download, waste of time and power, yeah i see the 5.7 out now

[orchid iron]

so I got a pretty funny situation:
-A friend gifted a phone that he can't use for his sim card
-he bought it from a dodgy ali express seller for super cheap
-claims it is an iphone i17 plus
-box says it is an iphone i17 plus
-UI looks apple-like
-operating system is android
-Has 22 gb of ram
-Has 2tb of storage
-booting screen says "welcome" instead of the usual apple things
-has no apple logo anywhere, even on the case

so...how can i put a custom rom on this? xD
I don't even know what is the original hardware

lmao
wtf is "google go" xD

I'm not trusting this thing at all lmao, not gonna plug it in my pc or connecting to internet

[agile lodge]

friend want new steam hardware?

[orchid iron]

in what way?

[wise elbow]

I think it's usually pretty difficult to install a custom OS to a phone and maintain full functionality unless it was built for that exact model

If you trust connecting it to your PC you could use the android dev console to figure out what it is and what hardware it has

I'm guessing it's probably got the clap though

Since it was so cheap

[orchid iron]

time to live on the edge!

[wise elbow]

I've heard reports of suspiciously cheap android and Linux machines being loaded with spyware or crypto miners

[feral cypress]

Lab turning into gothamchess

and he sacrifices… THE NEEEEEEEET

[orchid iron]

oh yeah, of course, that's why im going to look up how to avoid being spied on by installing a custom rom on top of the already custom rom install xD

[mighty cosmos]

there is also a very good chance the software is lying to you and it's not 22GB of ram

[wise elbow]

Assuredly lol

[orchid iron]

The iPhone 17plus specifications online (official ones) have 8gn ram and 256/500gb storage configurations

So I trust that 22gb of ram as much as "Google Go"

[tribal ruin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/L2WX0c4qH3s?si=CJjrIJ95IBKqOK8c

[orchid iron]

https://www.amazon.com/Deepbito-Unlocked-I16-Android-Display/dp/B0DGLV5P3H?crid=1UEV2XICOQRYY&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HBSXCn9qW1Zh259s79_d4_48tkuxGq6p0BjwZ0lpiOEj_WXbB6wv2oI2wc2I44rkifDXCnwfCgwx_fVS9qi4BzG5axhpeM71T9X85yP_cb6u0wweYG-ryyXBaJy56jF8uUoLVlcsKbEO8rvCLvbFvvTkABlLn6yspTmm3Fk0hFFe03yP036dRPYN07bHc7THWKP47lpYyc9OpVqpcplCtQ.FyjUiFqR0UB6yJ_TBTRiy-76Cq89UVsYc-TILkBkB0U&dib_tag=se&keywords=iphone+16&qid=1763031383&sprefix=iphone+1%2Cwireless%2C435&sr=8-8

Found the og lol

The scam phone I'm dealing with looks exactly like this

[orchid iron]

After some research, it seems way too annoying to install android on a phone like that, instead I'll just restore the stock firmware (hopefully)

[devout pendant]

Hey everyone! I’ve been experimenting with Unreal Engine 5 to explore next-level realism — using Lumen, Metahuman, Quixel Megascans, Chaos, Ray Tracing, and PBR materials.

The backend (network & server setup) is already running, so the foundation for a multiplayer or data-driven system exists.

I’d love to connect with others who are into UE5, graphics, or game systems, to exchange ideas, maybe build something cool together or share progress.

💬 Feel free to drop a comment if you’re into realistic UE5 projects — I’ll reach out!

[orchid iron]

What the heck is this cringy roleplay I'm reading in a text channel about #hardware

[wise elbow]

idk it reads like it's from an ai

[feral cypress]

It may perhaps be ai

[orchid iron]

update on the phone situation, it might be stolen, actually it is very likely it was stolen, which makes it really difficult to actually use since installing official apple firmware may actually lock it

[feral cypress]

Hm ok

[agile lodge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewDJpxQEGo4

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OMP8JvGWNY

[orchid iron]

Amazing!!!

[feral cypress]

Yall is a 9900x and 9070xt running unreal better than 9070xt and 9800x3d? I want to make a decently large game in Unreal and I have a choice between a 9900x and 9800x3d for it (I will be doing casual gaming in the longer term but i will mostly be running 1440p at the highest graphics settings). Which one between those two CPUS will be running Unreal faster? I would want to build a PC but i dont wanna take the risk of breaking it so im gonna try and get one of the Ibuypower prebuilts from bestbuy. The pricing is about the same, so i just wanna know which one will run unreal faster

[somber surge]

The 9900X will be faster for Unreal since it has more threads, and Unreal loves having a lot of threads. The 9800X3D will do very well too though, but if you aren't playing that much it's worth getting the faster CPU for UE

[orchid iron]

If it isn't a pre-built
You could get a 7950x instead if it is same price or close to a 9900x

Since difference between non-x3d models from 7000 and 9000 series is really low

4 extra cores, 8 extra threads

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/11uz4gQViQo?si=Yu9zLf2mk9knmW1i

[mighty patrol]

Gotta build nas quicker

[median marsh]

that was already announced a month ago?!

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Manufacturers-unprepared-server-hard-drives-sold-out-for-a-year-10650952.html

[mighty patrol]

Smh Zach

[orchid iron]

he said it would be 2 years now

[feral cypress]

Yeah its the ibuypower prebuilts

[orchid iron]

In that case I'd recommend the 9900x and in the future (probably around 3 years) replace the CPU with the one with 32 cores

[feral cypress]

Oh ok, thanks!

[feral cypress]

I think something that would be really funny is GabeCube vs Unreal engine 5

[orchid iron]

Funny enough, the computer I use for unreal engine 5.7 has worse specifications than the GabeCube

And I'm also on Linux

So I can already tell you, it is not a pleasant experience the moment you bring in high quality assets xD

[orchid iron]

https://x.com/PassMarkInc/status/1987286968313745488?t=zJjrDsyQprWhxjCdMoENUQ&s=19

PassMark Software (@PassMarkInc)

Some comments on the Ryzen 7 9700X3D CPU briefly listed on our site. For now this CPU doesn't exist and it might never exist. Our benchmarks are mostly community sourced, an average of real world performance for millions of machines. From time to time we see people trying to fake

X · Nov 8, 2025, 10:31 PM

https://youtube.com/shorts/uUqampQTrfk?si=m2KHqSzfWcbWpe3g

Who knew it would be that easy, brb gonna make a Ryzen 4070 benchmark real quick

[tribal ruin]

Are you effectively doing what your job requires to do with that Pc?

[orchid iron]

My main task is programming, so yes
But I also mostly use either simple text editors for programming or the engine to test if my code works
So I wouldn't use myself as a standard since I don't even use IDEs xD

[subtle rock]

well just goes to show i did a little 6th gen i5 shitbox build for a friend in need and used new win11 flybi util to remove all there crap and it runs like a champ even my 14th gen in bloat mode looks embarrassing compared

literally hits 0% usage most of the time

and i don't know why but some how this little china case is incredible efficient at disapating heat

windows in in its regular flavor compared to current flyby is like C180 Fully laden with like 50 tanks

Hang on we have disk a disk leecher at the last second!

guess who

Malicous removal software tool

wow M$ wont leave us alone

just trampling all over those resources now LOL

wow

yep ok we can see the issue flybi didnt see "delivery optimisation service" comming lol

they should just strip that also

oh and Modules installer worker

[wise elbow]

I would be shocked if you couldn't achieve similar results by just disabling most default crap in the OS

Might as well just Linux tbh

Lobotomizing windows that much causes random issues with the programs that you would explicitly use windows for

[orchid iron]

Ikr

Or use enterprise windows

[subtle rock]

not if it just needs to run 1 program

[orchid iron]

Your workflow combines unreal engine 4 & 5?
What the heck does that mean?
At least the text feels like it wasn't AI generated

[grave sundial]

If you combine UE 4 and 5, you arrive at UE 3.5. It makes perfect sense.

[orchid iron]

Oooh so that's how that works, I thought he had access to unreal engine 9 for a sec

[grave sundial]

Wait, 4+5 is not = 10?

👀

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/amazon-has-found-its-own-way-to-cool-down-nvidias-ai-graphics-cards/articleshow/122372598.cms

Amazon decided cooling solutions weren't good enough. They made their own.

Woo hoo!

[sick cedar]

Jesus...

I really needed one HDD

30€ difference already

[orchid iron]

A tracker that tracks Amazon? Yooo pretty cool, which one is it?

[sick cedar]

The Camelizer

[orchid iron]

Thank you very much

[orchid iron]

Bought two of these last year, price really skyrocketed

[subtle rock]

man ppl arn't joking when they say asus armoury crate is cancer

[orchid iron]

Oh you watched the video explaining how easy the exploit is to do?

[subtle rock]

oh no whats this now? 😄 ... I was morely refering to it just making a massive runway of pain just to have fan expert

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/xC8qfXxAhAw?si=WOlb4z28v4NH2Bnl

One of the easiest exploits to pull off I've seen

It has been patched of course...but the massive incompetence that made it in the first place is still there...
Plus they didn't even pay the guy who reported it, they just wrote his name somewhere in an obscure page on their website

Like what, this exploit is so easy and can get ring level -2 privileges from one user click

[subtle rock]

yeah leaving a RPC with that capability laying around like that isnt to clever

[subtle rock]

yeah thats really wild .. i just cant understand why who ever wrote the original code didnt test it givern what its exposing

[subtle rock]

man that is kind of also trippy was fiddling with some argb lighting trying to figure out why this cheap china controller unit didn't work.. so i traced it down to the cheapest sata connector available on the planet, so looking in my box of junk i found a little molex to fan header wire, so i depined the 5v side there.. and it fired right up... so then i decided to heatshrink the wires to make them safe, disconnected the molex (also cheapest molex connector on the planet).. and the next time i plugged it in, it some managed to plug in upside down which is a first time for me lol
😂 sufice to say the china controller left the chat

chinas cheapery killed it from conception .. i guess it deserved to die from a electronics perspective

[mighty patrol]

Imagine trusting Asus after this has happened how many times now.

[orchid iron]

Don't tell me, a friend of mine plans to buy an Asus pre-built

[subtle rock]

I remember when MSI was the ugly duckling of hardware seems like the tables have turned slightly

I've always been a gigabyte till i just had to take what i could afford 😄

[median marsh]

Asus makes good mainboards/gpu's...

a lot of stuff, is just to fill their portfolio, e.g.the whole screen/keyboard/mice stuff, something that came up when everyone started to make "gaming" hardware

[subtle rock]

well must say this AIMP might of killed winamp once and for all

prity smooth ride so far

and built off open source cant grumble

the combo of the VU+32band spectrum analyzer is a diabolically good touch for us audio engineers

[subtle rock]

back on those rpcs imagine if AI's get control of them

[orchid iron]

doubt it

[tough owl]

Windows will happily update your asus bios and install whatever without your consent

[subtle rock]

hopefully the will be locked away fore ever

[orchid iron]

yup

[subtle rock]

yeh windows might have to get deleted out the picture

only because its untrustworthy

no such rpc bullshitery in linux rpcs

literally i give you permision to use my rap 😄

with the terminator beat

[tough owl]

windows installing bios update that blocks rollback behind my back then fucks up my dualboot during update I didn't even need was enough for me to rip the bandaid and go full time linux

[subtle rock]

which exact bios did your board have?

[feral cypress]

What apps do you lose and gain going from windows to Linux?

[sacred steeple]

Hello. I am looking to get a new laptop for programming for UE5. Project scale: larger AA - smaller AAA game. I will be travelling a lot, working on the move, so looking for something that won't be overly hot & noisy as not to annoy other passengers.
Anyone got any experience (good or bad) with specific machines? Any recommendations?

[feral cypress]

I dont think thats possible based on what i know about laptops

AAA gamedev on a laptop is either gonna use a nuclear reactor for power or run with lag

[subtle rock]

this laptop will need 48gb of ram and beatly gpu basically

[feral cypress]

Not even counting battery life

[feral cypress]

What non-5090 GPU can do that?

(Laptop gpu)

[sacred steeple]

I will be mostly on trains, so plugged in. So luckily battery shouldn't be an issue.
I'm not necessarily looking for the most crisp experience, just something that won't sound like a turbine is running in the train.

[feral cypress]

Oh lol idk much about laptops

[subtle rock]

yep its a big ask for a lappy

[feral cypress]

I also dont know much about what can run UE5

Like whats the cheapest ryzen CPU that can run UE5 enough to not run at 5 fps

[feral cypress]

(Basically just meaning one that can handle it but doesnt have to rip through it like a 9950x)

[mighty patrol]

https://x.com/tradeit_gg/status/1990449859099529683?s=20

Tradeit (@tradeit_gg)

Imagine buying a mouse with close to 0 recoil 💀

X · Nov 17, 2025, 4:00 PM

[subtle rock]

i5 on gen 14 will least get that job done

can do some fancy stuff 😄

[orchid iron]

Business class or budget?

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/uspnbaTKFP0?si=psaWenPLfaZZraup

With business class, you might be able to use something like this

[tough owl]

really, people still do backpack pcs?

[orchid iron]

Mini PCs are also quite attractive for the price/performance since they don't have built in screen/keyboard/whatever else
Just a small box
Cough cough steam machine

[frank glade]

I do all my ue5 dev on a legion 5 and it's honestly great. 7745hx, 32gb of ram and 4060 8gb. Project with nanite and lumen. Everything works fine, but sometimes you run out of vram with multiple programs open

[orchid iron]

If he says "small AAA" I'm guessing 8gb of VRAM ain't gonna be enough, I might be wrong

[frank glade]

i dont know it depends. the laptop can open and editor use is fine for complex UE samples like matrix city

ofc it's no desktop

[wise elbow]

Get at least 32gb of memory, at least a Ryzen 7 or Intel 7, and a pretty good gpu

You can get by with a lot less than you would think...

[orchid iron]

Define "good GPU" xD

Would an Nvidia 360 be good?

[wise elbow]

Tbh anything modern

[mighty patrol]

2080 super

[wise elbow]

Even a 5060 would be fine

It's so easy to run anything at 1080p

The main thing is a lot of memory and a CPU or your iteration time is going to suck

[median marsh]

3060 12GB is pretty neat for unreal (imho) it's a really good budget card for content creation with the 12GB memory

[orchid iron]

I meant Nvidia 460 sorry for the typo

[median marsh]

oO

the 1GB card?

that can barely hold the editor textures 😛

[orchid iron]

Yup xD

[orchid iron]

Or unreal engine with no plugins xD

[subtle rock]

man the 16gb 5060ti isn't a bad little number

i can live with that for a little while

just would be good if unreal made it so when you create a new project, you can choose the setting for modern DLSS and let the engine apply what it thinks should be done

[orchid iron]

You can copy paste settings from project to project if you want

[wise elbow]

The 16gb cards are pretty solid

Even 12gb on those would have been more than sufficient

8gb is just right at the cusp of having issues in some current games with certain settings

[subtle rock]

yeah i believe lyra has the dlss setup all nice

but yep i just like the clean combat character base

[frank glade]

Better than my desktop 3080 ti 😭

[sleek grove]

Man, I was thinking of getting onto AM5 during black friday if the prices were right but now it seems like I'm gonna skip the entirety of DDR5

Or at least a GPU to a super model but idk at all now

Kinda depressing

of course the other parts are cheaper now since there is less demand

[orchid iron]

What's your current setup?

[sleek grove]

5950x + 64gb

7800xt

[orchid iron]

Oh man, you already got more than enough, maybe upgrade ram to 128gb before prices go really out of hand

And storage, since SSD prices gonna skyrocket one day too

[sleek grove]

It's kinda good but I know how much smoother compiling and restarting the editor is on faster cpus

I upgraded to it during tail end of am4 so I paid nowhere near the og retail

I already filled all slots with 16gb sticks so it's kind of hard to upgrade by now anyway

[orchid iron]

You aren't missing out much, zen6 and zen7 are going to be on am5, so you have no rush

You could even do the same as am4, wait until the tail end of am5
And get 32 cores, 256gb of ram for cheap, by then ram prices with have come crashing down

[sleek grove]

I remember the last time ram prices were high, because that's when i bought the first 32gb

one of the sticks was dud so I had to send them back and got another 32gb but by then prices were lower

that's how i ended up with 64

but yeah idk how long this price cycle will last

they say years

[orchid iron]

About 3-5 years, then the ai crash will also create an economical crash

So hardware prices will be back to normal or lower

And average salary will be also lower

[subtle rock]

does any one have a recommend for a pair of active pc book shelf speakers preferably with a 5" speaker, or at least that are full range

[subtle rock]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MEVOSTO-Active-Bookshelf-Speakers-36W/dp/B0DGXZVFNJ/

[subtle rock]

man i am so sick of searching i will just throw the china silicon dice on those

but atleast they are real wood

and bt 5.4

with 5inch driver

and supposed in built dsp / pc interface rikes lets see

[subtle rock]

one this that worrys the hell out of me if its one of these talking speakers

i hate all that shit

i dont mind if it talks one time for setup and never speaks again

[wise elbow]

I would personally only ever buy speakers from a company I trust

[subtle rock]

if wharfdale made fancy modern speakers 😄

but yep i am so tierd of not having a simple pair of speakers to do some tests with period i a probably being extremely over picky

cant work those sound bars either .. i need it to be 2.1 🙂

for unreal dev atleast we kind of do need a 2.1 setup with a sub

so if you do some sound stuff and make some low frequencey bombs and what not you know did it right lol

[wise elbow]

Maybe consider getting a set of studio monitors

[subtle rock]

i know but it will be all kind of bit messy i will have to get amp or something to make every thing happy

there is this compromise where you can have monitors all day long but then you need the little mini amp between it all

i swear its the future they just got to make it fully managed over ethernet or usb

and yeah fuk the talking voice off its not required excuse my french

[median marsh]

studio monitors aren't 2.1

2.1 is for 2 satellites + 1 sub

[wise elbow]

that's a relatively common monitor setup iirc

[subtle rock]

you can have .1 in some setups

but yeah movesto is killing them out right

wood box

5" driver

bt 5.4

24bit usb dsp's

[lapis pilot]

Hey all, got a question about ram compatibility... my gskill ddr4 3200 CL14 are eol and cant find a matching set to expand to 32GB... my motherboard QLV says it supports up to 3200, then lists 3600 OC, are they refering to the XMP profile?

[subtle rock]

if its intel i would of thought so

what else could they be reffering to ?

just the ram manufacturer saying hey look i go there..

xmp is just saying hey is the ram fast enough for this shiz

[subtle rock]

hence the p as in profile

[tribal ruin]

Your mobo supports 3200mhz on official website? Match everything like latency numbers, speed, brand before you invest money. Are you in urgent need?

[orchid iron]

So you have 16gb and you want to install 2 extra ram sticks to get to 32gb?

If you wanna do some unreal engine development I'd reccomend getting a bigger capacity kit to just replace it, like a 64gb kit (2x32gb) if you wanna upgrade to 128gb later
Or 2x16gb if you wanna upgrade to 4x16gb later
Because if you scale up your project, 4x8gb is quite small

[tribal ruin]

Also how do you calculate it's eol ??

[lapis pilot]

Gskill themselves

[tribal ruin]

end of life like 10 year warranty ?

[lapis pilot]

no they just dont sell anymore

[tribal ruin]

Ohh so they stopped selling that specific speed and latency Kit. got you now.

[celest zephyr]

i currently have a 3070 8GB. I wanted to upgrade to a new gpu and my choice was between the 9070XT and the 5080.
On one hand the 9070XT has CRAZY perf/$ ratio, on the other hand the 5080 has DLSS and CUDA which are superior.
9070XT being at 679€ and 5080 starting from 1100€.

What do you guys recommend? Are the 2 tech that better to justify the price?
Should i just wait for the new AMD cards?

[orchid iron]

Oh no, absolutely not, they are way too close in performance to justify such gap, wtf

And don't forget, while dlss and CUDA are on Nvidia products, it won't take that long for AMD to catch up, latest FSR is AI based like DLSS and is only lacking in game compatibility

Also, the ram shortage caused both Nvidia and AMD to be unsure when they'll release their GPU refresh with more VRAM

So whatever you pick, pick it now because prices are about to go crazy for 1-2 years

[median marsh]

they are already... so i would rather wait for the new super cards

[celest zephyr]

Yeah this shortage is gonna skyrocket everything

https://videocardz.com/newz/powercolor-representative-confirms-2026-gpu-price-hike-recommends-buying-next-week

even an AIB suggest buying before 2026

[median marsh]

i also very much suggest that you buy my pet rocks before 2026

the prices will sky rocket

trust me bro

[celest zephyr]

yeah there's also that lmao, of course they're gonna push into buying their products

[orchid iron]

Block chain!

[wise elbow]

depends on how fast of a card you want. a 9070xt is more comparable to a 5070ti

buy whatever is in your budget 🙃

I will say personally that for 4k it feels like a 5080 can run mostly anything very well but it's right at the line of having to back settings down

also for raytracing Nvidia is still far ahead IIRC

and dlss 4 is good enough looking that I usually try and force games to use it if they don't have support for it out of the box

a 9070xt for 600 or less is pretty hard to beat the the price but there are compromises with rt and upscaling if you care about that

[subtle rock]

i shiz the not.... I sold my 16gb of ddr5 in like 10 minutes flat on ebay yesterday.. and made my money back.

i was like damn i need more shit to sell!

[meager phoenix]

hello all,
long time lurker, newbie at UE5, have the usual curious question for a starter to mid-range build for a pc ...
in general, is graphics card more important or ram more important for working in UE5? it might be too board of a question perhaps...
thanks for your help!

[orchid iron]

In general your unreal engine 5 project would have lots of heavy assets, lots of polygons, 4k textures perhaps

To to even be able to render all that, the graphics card would affect most of your performance

But it isn't the only thing to consider, storage, ram, CPU for rendering shaders, etc

But overall, the 3 main factors that will affect your build will be

1. Your budget
2. Your project
3. Your skills

Why your skills? Well if you are learning you can scale down your project, focus on learning with low poly assets, then once you've learned plenty, just change the assets to match what you wanted, but in the meantime you can use lower end hardware

[meager phoenix]

thank you for the explanation! i appreciate it ... ill keep this in mind as i plan my pc ... im guessing ill focus on graphics card first, since i will have 2 x 2tb ssd for storage, that might be enuf for starter/mid level learning

[feral cypress]

You only really need 2 tb for now, improve your other parts right now and get more storage down the line

[wise elbow]

both is important but extra memory (at least used to be) is a cheap way to improve your dev experience a lot

I would always recommend at least 32gb, ideally more

you can get by with very little though as long as you aren't doing development on a scrappy pc

[mighty patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s8o_Sr9ypg

[tough owl]

just something nice to watch a pro with his workbench

[orchid iron]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_T_kz15npZY?si=0jCCe3p-G0ZLVn6c

[fallen oasis]

Those are some impressive bus speeds.

Shame the actual available sd cards don't really go over 250mb/s

[orchid iron]

The fact the price of the ram I bought last year is climbing so high that it may actually reach the same price as the 7900 xtx I bought is insanity

[mighty patrol]

Maybe ram will cost a 4090 or 5090 🤣

[orchid iron]

it might actually reach 4090 msrp in 2026

[mighty patrol]

I hope not.

Can't these companies make a new thing for ram and leave us normies prices alone.

[orchid iron]

Yeah, the companies are making HBM and Registered ECC ram for data centers and servers

The issue is, we normies basically have way less production lines than before

https://youtu.be/BORRBce5TGw?si=7hJpjSpz8dQcAKMm

If you want to blame someone for the ram spike, blame OpenAI

[mighty patrol]

Reeeee

Good thing I just bought my NAS

[median marsh]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-rumored-to-stop-bundling-memory-with-gpus-squeezing-smaller-board-partners xD

[grave sundial]

What does this mean for GPUs?

Should we expect more customised stuff, or cheaper stuff, or more expensive relics?

[median marsh]

i guess this primary affects smaller AIBs

i'm surprised that this was a thing in the first place, that nvidia sold them the memory, too. after all NVidia also just buys it from samsung and co

[grave sundial]

It is time to design memory chips with butter cookies.

[somber surge]

Just more expensive stuff across the board

Customised stuff -> Nvidia will never allow that
Cheaper stuff -> Nope, no AIB will likely have better contracts than Nvidia could have

[orchid iron]

wasn't nvidia also taking a cut off of selling vram?

[somber surge]

Surely, but it was very likely less than what AIBs can have with contracts made now

[orchid iron]

idk, those numbers are well hidden away, but I'm guessing the ram manufacturers are pretty happy

[wise elbow]

I'm not sure why they would do that apart from predicting a memory shortage but GPU surplus

imagine buying a gpu to manufacture into a card but not have enough memory, lol

[grave sundial]

Maybe the memory will be AI generated.

[mighty patrol]

Wonder if laptop memory will also take a hit

[orchid iron]

Oh yeah, the only memory that won't be affect that much is Sony's
They have a huge stock pile of them

[mighty patrol]

UGreen Nas didn't go up in price it seems

[somber surge]

It's different though, companies working with AMD had years to get good memory contracts while not in shortage. Nvidia is just telling all the AIBs "Hey it's a shortage, good luck getting memory" 🤣

Maybe they warned them a few weeks in advance, but good deals take a lot of time to get

[orchid iron]

Oh yeah true

[median marsh]

eh... i think most AIBs already have contracts/contacts with companies which happen to produce memory

Asus/etc/ very likely buy screen panels etc. from Samsung for their screen, and other chips

this will really only affect small AIBs who may get worse contracts 🤷 (all imho, not facts)

[mighty patrol]

It dropped, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfv0V1SxbNA

[orchid iron]

watched it, it was so awesome!

[mighty patrol]

Heck yeah the subtle Elon roast 😂

[median marsh]

that is so hilarious. Didn't expect that.

[orchid iron]

Linux (linux one) is so based everytime I see interviews of him

that "Nvidia, fu*k you" meme never got old

[median marsh]

yea, he seems very chilled now in the latest interviews with him

[feral cypress]

Yo the ram prices rn gotta be monopoly money

[orchid iron]

Fr, forget GPU shortage, soon game dev ram capacity will cost as much as the GPU

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/MrwJgDHJJoE?si=qmUXcmNcKel9WjBV

Liquid metal cooler sounds very safe to put on a 5090

The future is now:

Before (boring past/present), non conducting liquid used for thermal transfer

Now (actually cool future), highly electrical conductive and corrosive liquid

[orchid iron]

https://youtu.be/aCVGkaww51M?si=w-EeNqRx8_waWZbF

This video is like that meme where a girl is on the couch and 4 men are behind it, except less hardcore and more hardware

[subtle rock]

i swear some people with there brand names and buzzwords just wont learn!

[orchid iron]

AI

Turbo Prescription Boost Ultra Overdrive v3 feature for your cpu xD

what does it do? Make the cpu consume more power than the advertised tdp

[subtle rock]

yeh ha should of drawn some heat waves comming of the box

[orchid iron]

They did do that xD

[median marsh]

i think threadripper is a pretty cool name for what it is

[fallen oasis]

It's a pretty cool chip, too.

[wise elbow]

one could also a call a house cat that

[grave sundial]

This is the appropriate time to buy hundreds of hamsters and cycle wheels, and whatever components make up RAM.

We must have alternative, organic choices.

HAM! 🐹

[wise elbow]

Going to be cheaper to buy a ram truck than computer ram in a year

[orchid iron]

Ram manufacturers have estimated wait times of 2 years for production
This is going to be interesting

[tough owl]

only 2 years? I was expecting more like 5