hardware

[zinc ingot]

this setup have 2x 16 GB ram :
Memory
Size of operational RAM
32 GB
Memory frequency
3,600 MHz
Memory type
DDR4
Number of RAM slots
4 piece(s)
Number of installed slots
2 piece(s)

So 2x 16 GB is better than the 1x 32 GB 1 slot ram? Can you tell me why? Thx

[frigid heath]

for one thing you still have 2 slots open in case you want 64

ow u def need 2 slots filled

dual channel memmory

[zinc ingot]

Is 32 GB of RAM not enough these days, for 1440p gaming? Others mentioned above too, to get 64 GB RAM for the 4090 build I linked here earlier. Is 64 GB that much better, and required nowadays?

[frigid heath]

those ppl are talking gamedev

c++ takes a lot

[zinc ingot]

I am not a developer. Roger.

[wind egret]

Most games won't even use 16GB, but your web browser will.

[frigid heath]

its unreal slackers tho... its for ppl that use unreal engine.. usually to make games

[zinc ingot]

I play few games that use UE4 like Chivalry 2 .... 🙂 I wish I could be a game developer. I am just a Discord member, tech noob, pc tech antitalent 🙂

So I am the only one here? 😦 hehe

[frigid heath]

its just... not the same

dunno there are a lot of terrible devs here aswell

[zinc ingot]

MegA lol 🙂

[frigid heath]

but yea, if you ask here for a pc build some ppl would recommend a 6000$ pc expecting you to use it for work

time spend compiling is time not making money

its just diffrent... you dont wunna get bothered with shit while u work on something

[median marsh]

75hz is fine for screen, you wont have 240Hz/fps in any game either 😄

[frigid heath]

no... 144

[median marsh]

ok

but anything above is a waste of money imho

and should rather be invested in a better 144Hz one

[frigid heath]

i can most def tell 75 from 144

and a lot of games run 144 if you dont max everything... and i rather have 144 than maxed everything

[mighty cosmos]

around 144Hz is the sweetspot while 175 is nice to have and anything beyond is not really worth it

[frigid heath]

175 also needs the card to push it or really tune down stuff

on 1440p

[fallen oasis]

I have 144 and never hit 144 with my 3090. 😦

[frigid heath]

dont really need 4k on my size monitor either its pretty close

[fallen oasis]

(at 1080p)

[frigid heath]

you messed shit up in ur build?

[mighty cosmos]

What are you playing that you aren't hitting 144 at 1080p
That doesn't sound right 😅

[fallen oasis]

Eh. It is what it is.

[frigid heath]

no

u bad

fuck up build

[fallen oasis]

I was playing hogwarts legacy and don't get over 80 fps even with everything on low at 1080p.

[frigid heath]

also u play shit games

[fallen oasis]

But I also get 70 fps with everything on full.

I've got a total of about 2 hours played in it. My friend bought me it. It's just the most graphically advacned game I've played recently.

[frigid heath]

80fps on 3090 1080p is not right man

thats raytrace stuff

[mighty cosmos]

Unless that game is really really heavy to run

[fallen oasis]

RTX was disabled.

Oh and DLSS was off.

Having it on made no difference.

[frigid heath]

this makes no sense

[mighty cosmos]

Found this video on YT, 1080p, ultra, 3090

[fallen oasis]

I do wonder if having a 6900 xt in there too makes any difference.

(it's not suing the 6900)

Or is it a 6800 xt? Soemthign like that .

Yeah, 6800.

[mighty cosmos]

Yeah I'm not sure but 80 fps doesn't sound right
That's more like what I would expect from the 6800

[fallen oasis]

You can choose the adapter you use in the game.

[frigid heath]

dunno ultra might be overkill... like i dunno what they do with those settings

[fallen oasis]

And I can see my 3090 is working and my 6800 isn't.

[zinc ingot]

Can you please tell me (sry I am noob) what is that program called that shows GPU and CPU temperatures, also FPS on this picture? Thx!

[frigid heath]

us l33t gamedevs use stat unit in unreal engine

[mighty cosmos]

MSI afterburner/rivatuner I believe

I think

[zinc ingot]

Thank you, it is free?

[mighty cosmos]

pretty sure it is

[zinc ingot]

And it only work with Nviadia cards?

[frigid heath]

dont burn ur pc messing with stats 😛

[mighty cosmos]

Unless the 2 GPUs are somehow slowing one another
But no clue

[mighty cosmos]

That... I'm not sure 😅

[frigid heath]

msi also has nvidia cards

[fallen oasis]

I think dx12 has some sort of "work together" thing going on.

It migth be that.

[zinc ingot]

You are all game developers?

[fallen oasis]

I am UE tools developer.

[frigid heath]

some are artists

i do concept art, look at my profile pic

i made that

also AI took my job

[frigid heath]

you have an nvid and amd card in ur pc?

[forest hound]

Does it make any fucking sense to ya'll that I have to register an account for Acer to get drivers and software for my PC?

[frigid heath]

thats just wild

[fallen oasis]

Yes

[forest hound]

Verify your email made me do it

[fallen oasis]

Heh

[frigid heath]

click drivers and manuals

he is gunna make his money back on youtube vids if he does that 😛

[forest hound]

It just throws me into the acer support window, did they remove my pc from the database or something? If I enter an incorrect snid it does nothing

[mighty cosmos]

Mainly UE tools developer but also doing ML

[zinc ingot]

What is ML? Before they ban me from here, for being too noob :p I want to know. 🙂

[frigid heath]

dunno, i dont have the id

[mighty cosmos]

Machine learning

[zinc ingot]

In movies, the CGI technology, is made by a special engine or software?

[frigid heath]

no

[zinc ingot]

I guess Unreal Engine is not part of it, or yes?

[frigid heath]

some have inhouse tech but a lot use the usual suspects

[forest hound]

"Get personalized support with Acer ID. Access Drivers, Updates, FAQs and other personalized content specific to your registered Acer products."

[frigid heath]

some movies series... its pretty new but gets traction

[frigid heath]

gimme the snid

[zinc ingot]

CGI is only used in movies, and not in video games, or video game developing tools, right? Or I am asking stupidity? I might remove later my questions... 🙂 I will look so dumb...lol.

[wind egret]

Computer Generated Imagery is how you're reading discord.

[forest hound]

2150004218

[frigid heath]

doesnt find results for this ID

[forest hound]

Wt

Well it definitely is my snid

I just confirmed it

[forest hound]

21500004218* @frigid heath

[fresh fog]

that explains it

[forest hound]

Wdym

Still not working

[frigid heath]

try dif browser and accept cookies

?

[forest hound]

Yeah that's it

[frigid heath]

didnt open on firefox but mayB cuz i didnt acept cookies

[forest hound]

Can you gimme the link?

[frigid heath]

https://www.acer.com/nl-nl/support/product-support/N50-640/DG.E2VEQ.00Y/downloads

its dutch

I open in edge and accept cookies

[forest hound]

Alright I'm downloading Tor

[frigid heath]

now i have acer cookies :/

[forest hound]

Rip

Still not working

Can someone with English PC do it

Ok I found it by searching for the actual model 💀

Trying to search for software and drivers with SNID

[wild hill]

rtx 4080 16GB vs rtx 3090 24GB, which is better for UE5, and for an indie developer?

[frank glade]

3090 for the vram?

[mellow galleon]

3080ti is plenty. even 1080 enought for coding, you do not need dozens gb of vram unless rendering

my office pc had gtx 680 and was still ok [had to up to 3070 for rtx]

pick whatever fits the budget, unless you have specific goal or use in mind that needs top gpu

[frank glade]

you do need a ton of vram else you won't be able to open bigger levels

forget about anything with nanite like the Epic samples, matrix city, caves, etc

[mellow galleon]

it works perfectly fine on 8gb vram

well, anyway it is down to budget

[frank glade]

try opening the megascans temple level

[devout pendant]

am wondering if 32 gb of ram will get filled with these free ue5 project

[proud galleon]

These good specs for UE5 I know the RAM is low but it seems everything else checks out

[wild hill]

That is true, as I'm just learning now, and will start with small indie game.

[proud galleon]

Also I'm not a graphics card guy I just go for the one with the biggest #

[wild hill]

Well, I guess better to choose a laptop with better cooling, though I will definitely go with PC desktop. @proud galleon

[proud galleon]

How do you know what the cooling is In don't see it?

The thing I don't have the space for a desktop which is why I'm looking for a laptop

[frank glade]

Perhaps space for an mitx?

[proud galleon]

It says 8 gb ram but I think I can easily upgrade it

[fresh fog]

Be careful. In some laptops that voids the warranty

[wild hill]

IDK but probably you could Google it to see people who already purchased that laptop and know if its cooling is good or bad.

[fresh fog]

But to answer your question, not that's not that good for ue

Only 512gb of storage too

And unless you plan on spending more money after you've dropped 1.1k on a laptop, you might as well just get an sff desktop

[fresh fog]

In fairness it's a laptop. The cooling will always be bad, especially for something that will force it under constant load like ue

[forest hound]

How can i install my ssd

I got no idea how I've never done it

[forest hound]

What do I do with the missing screw?

I don't get what to do there's no acrew there so I have to install one although it won't go down?

Yeah but I can't place it there if the ssd is in the way

I can't push it any further down the slot

Huh

So my ssd is not correctly plugged in?

Yeah but I still can't figure what side I install the ssd on

The FireCuda lgo on top is the only way I see how it fits in any way

Ok I got it in now we gotta find a screw

[median marsh]

yea you got the right side up, only thing missing is the screw

and push it in the slot correct...

[forest hound]

I don't have a screw for it, can I just tape it and hope it doesn't explode?

I got rubber tape

[median marsh]

do you use the wifi?

i would rather remove the wifi card, put some rubber tape around the antenna connectors (or the whole thing) and use the screw for the SSD

[fallen oasis]

Or just buy some screws.

[forest hound]

I have 2 screws in a bag I got with my oc

They are black tho

[fallen oasis]

And?

[forest hound]

I'm not sure do they fit if the other ones are silver

[fallen oasis]

If they fit in the hole, use them.

[forest hound]

Racially motivated ofc

[forest hound]

I do use wifi

I got tape that can handle 90c tho

What do you think? I can remove my primary ssd ( 512gb vs 2tb )

I have to order them and wait

Yes

I got a usb

Yeah and once I get the screws I can get my UE5 project back

But I have to find a thing I can screw it off with

[fallen oasis]

Just hold it in place as you copy the files over.

Totally safe.

[frank glade]

apparently windows adds a EFI system partition to one of your drives when you install windows, and you can't choose which one it is. now I can't remove my old ssd because that's the one with the partition, and without it there's no boot 😵‍💫

[fallen oasis]

Just reinstall windows.

[frank glade]

That's next 😔

[forest hound]

I had to remove my cpu fan but I still can't get my main ssd off of it's slot

I found a working screw in my old laptop so that's good news

I got my ssd off but it won't come off literally

It's stuck

[fallen oasis]

You got it off but it won't come off?

Is this like some sort of inception offness?

[forest hound]

I got the ssd off but it's still stuck

[frank glade]

You're aware it needs to be at an angle right? Both going in and out

[forest hound]

Why tf is my camera like that

There's some fur below it

Nahh

My cpu goes to 80 in gta

I can't, literallt stuck

Mission failed succesfully

Wtf is that

So should I be concerned? Should I remove it?

And transfer the old ssd onto the new slot with no thermal pad?

Yes but I found a screw that I can use to get my 2nd slot used

That way I can have 2.5tb

That was my original plan but things went south

[forest hound]

I just lost a screw inside my PC can I still use it?

I don't need the screw

[fallen oasis]

No. Find the screw.

If that shorts something your entire pc may die.

I find picking up the case and shaking it upside down is effective.

[forest hound]

I hear nothing when shaking it

Upside down or sideways, nothing

[fallen oasis]

Are sure you sure it's actually inside the case?

[forest hound]

Nope, might've hit the case and fell to the floor

You think I should risk it?

It fell on the floor but I heard metal sound

[fallen oasis]

Did you find it?

[forest hound]

So could it just be that it fell on the floor?

[forest hound]

Nope

Does warranty cover that?

[fallen oasis]

I'd suggest taking everything but the motherboard, cpu and psu out (basically the easy to get out stuff) and then try turning it on. If it doens't catch on fire, you're probably okay.

You mgiht even find the screw.

[forest hound]

My PC just sparked a bit when I plugged it in

[fallen oasis]

It's not uncommon to get a bit of that when you connect the lead to the PSU

[forest hound]

My pc is running

[fallen oasis]

No smoke?

[forest hound]

No smoke

[fallen oasis]

No smell of burning plastic?

[forest hound]

No

Not yet

I got no idea how that went so wrong but I still managed to do it

[forest hound]

My CPU is hitting 70 while idle

Umm yeah

I think you were right

But why did removing the CPU fan cause this?

Did I install it wrong or just fuck up the paste?

[normal cairn]

why did removing the fan cause temperatures to increase...?

[forest hound]

I added it back

[normal cairn]

after applying new thermal paste?

[forest hound]

No

Do I seriously need to reapply thermal paste?

[normal cairn]

Ah I see I see

[forest hound]

Tf is that

But anyways why would this happen?

Oh

[tawdry drum]

(That's sarcasm btw)

[normal cairn]

Thermal paste is going to degrade over time as it gets used. Why would you not apply fresh thermal paste when your cooling unit's already taken off??

[forest hound]

What the fuck can you just tell me how it is?

[forest hound]

Well why would the thermal paste disappear after removing the fan?

If I put it back on shouldn't it still be there?

[fallen oasis]

This just reminds me of that time when a guy said his newly built pc would turn on and then beep at him and turn off straight away. We were like "maybe it's overheating." He replied, "Well, I touched the cpu to see if it was hot after I turned it on and it wasn't that hot."

[forest hound]

oh

[tawdry drum]

I'm not following your journey. I'm just checking in from time to time while I wait for this thing to compile.

[forest hound]

The fan isn't sticking in the paste so wth does that happen

[tawdry drum]

But I don't need to follow it to recognize sarcasm

[normal cairn]

okay this got me to actually laugh out loud

[forest hound]

I didn't even touch the paste so I don't get why it does thjat

Okay thanks

[forest hound]

Is Arctic MX6 thermal paste good?

[median marsh]

any thermal paste will do...

even tooth paste is better than what you got now (no, dont apply tooth paste)

[fallen oasis]

But what if you suffer the pain of sensitive cpus?

[spice girder]

any that isn't made for office use heat loads

[fresh fog]

I just read the SSD saga and see you didn't follow my advice of ordering a standoff and screw because it doesn't come with one

[normal cairn]

I'm noticing a pattern lol

[forest hound]

Oh

What's standoff vs screw?

I got a screw now so it's enough

[fresh fog]

Me too

[forest hound]

It'll so but some got better temps, I can't use liquid metal tho

Wdym a pattern

[fresh fog]

Well thermal paste isn't liquid metal so yeah, you can't use it

[forest hound]

That's the pattern?

I'm thinking of doing 5 dots

[fresh fog]

No that's not the pattern

1 pea sized dot in the middle should be fine

Clean the old stuff off though, use some isopropyl alcohol

Otherwise you're still not achieving anything and will still have air and dust in the paste

[normal cairn]

The thing tea posted here
#hardware message

[normal cairn]

And make sure you clean it off the cpu AND the fan

[fresh fog]

^^^

[livid lance]

Would this be a good choice for a i9-13900k?

MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI

[livid lance]

Anyone have recommendations for a budget pc for UE5?

[edgy coral]

My UE is using a lot of my CPU but none of my GPU. why? Can I set up something so it uses my GPU too?

[edgy coral]

thats what Im doing

and all it does is make it crash and say texture streaming pool too much

and still uses 0% of my GPU

but it should use some of it? UE works better on my laptop that has no GPU

it should do that, yes.

but 0% dude. it would basically run the same if I rip out my GPU

ohh it's using all of ram not my cpu

my laptop has 12gb and it runs better than this

my PC has 24

why does it run at 5fps and say texture streaming pool over by this much

[forest hound]

Did I put the right amount of thermal paste?

[fresh fog]

I'd personally put a tiny bit more

But I mean tiny

[fallen oasis]

I'm pretty sure I always put on way too much.

And I've never had a problem.

[forest hound]

Same probably for me too

The wipes smelt like shit tho

I used arctic mx6 and it's so good

Do I need thermal paste for my side fan? My GPU reached 92c in game with auto fan

[fallen oasis]

"side fan"?

[forest hound]

Yeah there's a fan on the side of my pc above the gpu

It points to nothing it's just on the side

[fallen oasis]

So a case fan?

What would you even put thermal paste on in that case?

Onto the case itself?

[forest hound]

Idk man

I'm just tired

I think my pc was so hot because I was running Nitrosense to see if my CPU temps after using thermal paste but it also enabled the auto fan speed which is really shit for the app

I'm using 100% of my GPU in game while I had it on so maybe that's why I got 90c

[fallen oasis]

90 isn't a bad thing.

[forest hound]

It is when I normally have under 80

[fallen oasis]

Use open hardware monitor if you want sensor readings.

[forest hound]

I'm using MSI Afterburner & Rivatuner

[mighty cosmos]

Is it GPU temp or hotspot temp

If it's hotspot that's pretty ok, if it's the GPU temp then not so much

hotspot is usually 10-15C higher

[forest hound]

What's hotspot

GPU temp is what it says

[mighty cosmos]

Ok yeah that's a bit high

[forest hound]

It was afor a while because I used the shitty Nitrosense fan config

I switched to my MSI Afterburner auto fan and I got under 80

I hope it was because of the Nitrosense because I'm getting crashes but I didn't even touch my GPU fan so I think I'm fine

[forest hound]

My GPU fan needs to be on 78% when playing games to have under 80c is something wrong?

[fallen oasis]

So the fan that's designed specifically to cool your gpu is running at under its maximum capacity and is cooling your gpu sufficiently... and you think that's a problem?

Would it running at 20% be better and you having to pay an extra 100 bucks for a bigger fan be better?

[forest hound]

It used to be cooler with 20% less

[fallen oasis]

So what did you do?

[forest hound]

Continue playing

Lol

[fallen oasis]

I mean between it taking 78% and 58%?

[median marsh]

doesn't nvidia have hardware firmware based fancontrol?

or at least in their official driver

yea, just saying that extra software is usually useless

what should i say...

[mighty cosmos]

Mine is sitting at around 48C now, 0 rpm

This 4090 is the first card I didn't have to manually adjust the fan curve, on every single card I had before the default curve was not great

[median marsh]

idk when my card switches to 0%, probably only with less load (and im playing gta rn :D)

[mighty cosmos]

it's usually at around 50-55C
And it will spin back up at 60

Yeah I haven't seen mine go above 68-70C at full load, 450W
And I'm running without any limits, with a slight factory OC

[median marsh]

there's no oversized cooler 😄

larger cooler and more fans will most likely be more silent than a smol one

[fallen oasis]

The FE?

[forest hound]

What happens if I increase my page file up to 200gb

[fallen oasis]

What is the FE?

Oh

[frank glade]

used to have 55 idle because of lame case design with no breathing room (NZXT H200), now there's two fans under the card pulling air in

temps where even better with the case inverted, gpu on top

[frank glade]

Exhaust should be out the back of the slots blower style

[fresh fog]

I guess you could say that it really... blows

Hehe

[forest hound]

I have a drive with 2tb that's faster and a 500gb drive that's a bit slower which should I install Windows to?

I'm trying to have my projects on either one

It's a bit faster and I'm planning on having a tb of stuff in there

400gb so far

[frank glade]

Windows and projects on the same 2tb, onedrive to back it all up cheaply

[forest hound]

How about videos on 500gb drive?

It's useless at this point tbh

[frank glade]

And games

[forest hound]

What? Games take the most space on my drive

UE5 and stuff barely takes 50gb

[frank glade]

But like just the matrix city sample is almost 100gb?

[fallen oasis]

I remember when I got my first 6gb drive. I installed all the things and immediately ran out of disk space 😄

[fresh fog]

Hell, a source build is 250GB

[forest hound]

I love Windows, I restarted my PC so I could reset my PC using and USB

Windows doesn't find any drives

My Windows doesn't load anymore

I'm missing repair options

None of the repair options work

Even fucking CMD doesn't work

All because I restarted my PC

I can't do anything

[tall palm]

does a better GPU speed up lighting building?

i got a 2060 6 gb currently

about to upgrade to a 3070

will it speed up anything in building lighting and packaging

[frank glade]

Yes if you use GPU lightmass?

[obtuse rapids]

What's the core count needed for PACKAGED games for a machine. I have an i9 13900k I use for my main dev machine and the simulator I built we supply hardware for it, but I need to update my specs - and I don't know how to quantify potential bottlenecking of the CPU (the gpu is at least a 3090 TI) in regards to getting an i7 or an i5 of the 13th gen. If the speeds are similiar (other than enthusiant turboclock stuff) how much will it matter - how multithreaded is a modern unreal packaged build (like 5.2) ?

[round swallow]

So I've been directed here to get advice for building a new rig or upgrading my current one to meet the minimum requirements for game dev. I would appreciate any insight you guys might have to offer so please do feel free to chime in. My current PC Specs are as follows:

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60GHz 3.60 GHz

Installed RAM: 16 GB

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070

This rig is about 5 - 6 years old but I'd like to continue using it if possible so do let me know if there's anything I can replace to improve my PCs ability to use UE5.

[fallen oasis]

You can probalby just slap another couple of sticks of ram in there (16gb a piece) to get up to 48gb.

But if you upgrade in the future, you won't be able to use that ram in the latest systems.

[round swallow]

Why's that?

[fallen oasis]

New standards.

Or, well, it may be compatible, but just not upto scratch.

DDR3200 vs DDR6000 for example

[round swallow]

Huh I see, so if I wanted to "future proof" myself would you recommend just building an entirely new rig?

[fresh fog]

Future proofing doesn't really exist. You can't accurately guess what future applications will require.

[round swallow]

Sorry I guess that's kind of a dumb question to ask, it's kinda impossible to "future proof" anything with the constant changes and rapid advancement in tech plus with AI now in the mix, who knows what revolutionary changes lie around the corner.

[fresh fog]

Bingo :P

[round swallow]

Hrmm well I guess for now I'll just purchase additional RAM and see if that helps

[fresh fog]

Yeah try the cheapest method first

[round swallow]

Any particular RAM brands you guys recommend or will anyone do?

[fresh fog]

Match your current stuff as close as humanly possible

You never really want to mix and match ram

[fallen oasis]

You should never really mix and match ram. If you buy more, even if it's exactly the same type, brand and model, it can have issues if it's bought separately.

Even if bought together, there's a chance.

That's why you can buy matched pairs and quads.

[fresh fog]

Yeah the silicon lottery varies wildly with ram

[fallen oasis]

Just get as close as possible to what you currently have.

[fresh fog]

Your best case scenario is nothing happens and your new ram downclocks to match the older slower stuff.

The worst case is constant crashes and boot failure

[fallen oasis]

If it doesn't work, take out the old stuff.

[fresh fog]

^

[round swallow]

Oh I see, I believe I'm currently using 2 8GB Corsair RAM sticks though I've forgotten the model. Would it be possible to buy like 16GB sticks of the same brand and have them work with my current ones?

[fresh fog]

No guarantees

You're also limiting yourself on memory bandwidth there.

Personally I'd just replace the 8gb with the 2 16gb. You shouldn't need more than 32gb, and if you did, you'd also be getting a top of the range cpu and gpu

[round swallow]

Aight I'll try that then, thank you for the advice

[zinc ingot]

I have a question (yes me the tech noob sorry) so I just readed these leaks from new RTX 5000 series of GPUs coming in 2025 :

Kopite added that a potential flagship GPU from the next generation should utilize a 512-bit memory bus. This would be a major shift in NVIDIA gaming lineup, considering such configuration has not been used for a long time, like GTX 280 or some dual-GPU models. If NVIDIA were to use GDDR7 memory with the max speed of 32 Gbps on such a potential next-gen GPU, this would result in 2TB/s bandwidth, so double what RTX 4090 offers.

So my question is, based on these leaks, it is possible to tell, if the new GPUs coming in 2025 from Nvidia, will need more TDP or less TDP? Or it is not possible to tell? What other factors or technology must be known to be able to tell if the power requireement will be lower or bigger? Thx! Sorry for noob question! Also english isnt my mother language, sry in case if I made grammar mistakes.

I understand, there could be many variants with different specs too of these upcoming GPUs.

[wind egret]

The question is moot because Nvidia targets certain brackets for power consumption. E.g. They'll have a 150-190 W GPU, a 200-240W GPU, and a 250-300W GPU, etc. It's not feasible to predict where in those brackets a particular GPU will fall. If their GPUs for a year are unexpectedly power-hungry or unexpectedly efficient, they'll simply move their GPUs up or down a bracket to compensate.

Will Nvidia's 2025 GPUs need more TDP or less TDP? Yes.

[plush turret]

do extra fans on the hull of the case help or should i just keep it to 1?

[fresh fog]

extras can help

but you generally want to be aware of their orientation

like which are intake and exhaust

[plush turret]

i do have a 4090 and a 12th gen K i7

i have money and wanna go overkill

[median marsh]

well they are necessary for a air flow through the case

so i usually go with 2 intakes in the front and 1 exhaust (close to cpu/gpu)

[plush turret]

i also have the benefit of my entire houses AC unit is right next to my office so theres simple output and return vents i can duct to to help flow

[median marsh]

case fans aren't made for pushing air through pipes/tubes they don't produce enough air pressure

as long as your room temperature is controlled, its good enough to pipe fresh air through the pc

so that the hot air wont stay inside it

[plush turret]

oh i know, i have the hardware to create negative presure in the ducting

not a lot, but enough to pull light air and maybe some dust through it

the AC unit has to pull air from a 2,000 square foot house. its got really good power and i have enough duct fans from a demolition job to build a really cool unit, just need to get the heat out of the computer

how do i hook multiple fans up? isnt there like a physical limit to fan ports on a motherboard?

[frank glade]

there is, like one chassis fan. but a lot of fans come with a split cable to link them

or get a fan hub

[plush turret]

like this? https://www.amazon.com/ThreeBulls-Cooling-Splitter-Adapter-Computer/dp/B07M5P7VHG

im assuming i wont actually need to plug my CPU into it? given the MB has 3 fan ports already

1cpu and 2 for the case

[agile lodge]

if you want evangelion style there is ROG x Evangelion EVA-02 this time

[plush turret]

tbh im the only one who will see the pc and RGB is low on my list

only the RAM has RGB actually

[frank glade]

Yeah, or like the Noctua fan hub or corsair commander pro. Some you plug in the chassis header on the motherboard, others need sata power+usb header and you control them with their own software

Simpler to use the motherboard headers and bios to set the fan curves for them

[frank glade]

Cpu fans def needs to be in the cpu header or else you'll have problems

[plush turret]

i just need to setup my fans to blow air through, my external airflow is top notch

i mean the MB has a CPU fan port on top of a chasis fan port

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09KKYXXQB/

looks like it already has 4 fan slots

[frank glade]

Oh then problem solved lol

I only have one so I use a fan hub

Some have an aio pump header though

Not sure if rgb is also 4 pin

[plush turret]

i dont use rgb fans in the first place

i get my fill of RGB with the lighting in my office

[silent wyvern]

Hi

I want to buy external SSD for my base model Mac Mini 2

Which SSD brand do you recommend?

[plush turret]

ive always had good results from sandisk, use a 1TB SSD (extreme style) on my keychain as a backup

[plush turret]

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-2TB-Extreme-Portable-SDSSDE61-2T00-G25/dp/B08HN37XC1

this thing has been through a lot, dropped in water, mud, and even went through the washer once

still holds my data

[silent wyvern]

great

[agile lodge]

https://rog.asus.com/microsite/ROGxEVANGELION-02/ that if you want special eva-02 things

[plush turret]

looks expensive for a rig i will spend less time looking at than the screen

[agile lodge]

seems they have some regions only to get some other gear

[plush turret]

already gonna spend 2k on the GPU

im happy with my $80 chasis

the EVA case looks nice, but theres no price tag, feel like it would be a lot of money

[agile lodge]

look asus rog hyperion case what it is

[plush turret]

$439 for a case....

thats more than the CPU

hell thats the CPU, MB, and special fan combined

thats HALF my computers basic setup

you know what would be cool? for those that enjoy wireless mice, a QI enabled rechargable mouse

since any modern flagship phone and watch is rechargeable, might as well make a good mouse that can use the same charger

[fallen oasis]

There are mice that can wirelessly charge, but they require special mats. It's so retarded

Tbh, though, you don't need to charge your mouse that often...

That's make it hard to move it over the mousemat, I feel.

They have the Vision. Literally and figuratively.

[obtuse yew]

If you had to choose between
Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X DDR4
and
Asus PRIME Z690-P D4
which one would you choose?

[fallen oasis]

I think I have a gigabyte motherboard and it's a pos too

[plush turret]

i mean thats QI for you

[obtuse yew]

yes it is gray

Thanks a lot for clearing up the doubts ❤️

[plush turret]

i was about to ask for speakers when i realized my favorite speakers had a model number

[plush turret]

does MSI have it too?

is windows 11 better enough to be worth a fresh install?

over my existing win10 drive

[fresh fog]

im not gonna upgrade until EOL personally

i like windows 10 too much, and dislike win 11 ui too much

although tbh im just gonna download one of those apps that changes the style back

[plush turret]

hah

agreed idk why aside from more income they made a new windows so soon

tbh 10 is kinda the new XP. its lighter and more capable than the last 3 builds

[fresh fog]

it took me a while to get over the pain of losing win7, but 10 just feels way more intuitive now

[plush turret]

win 7 wasnt the best but it was vastly better than vista

helps when the previous version sucks shit

i mean 8 sucked so bad they skipped 9 to deliberately say "we wont be doing that soon"

[sudden stratus]

So, I've been working with a laptop with limited storage (500GB) and was looking at getting an External SSD. Would there be any issues as far as gaming/game dev with UE5 is concerned? Not sure if theres much of a performance difference between an internal and external SSD

[sinful thicket]

11 is superior to 10 in every way. And it also gets rid of the stupid start menu tiles.

[plush turret]

why not upgrade the laptop storage?

[sudden stratus]

Cuz Idk how.

Im not that tech savy when it comes to laptops

[plush turret]

im butter fingered and i could do it

[sudden stratus]

legion S7

[median marsh]

some ports also have a significant cpu usage overhead

[plush turret]

the big thing is swapping OS

[sudden stratus]

I want to upgrade the RAM, but like I said, not comfortable with tearing it apart.

Idk what im doing when it comes to laptops

[plush turret]

eh i just use geek squad to tear it apart so if something breaks they pay for the replacement

[sudden stratus]

Not sure, but legion s7 16iah7 is the full model

[median marsh]

2 slots for M.2 NVMe PCIe 4.0 x4 SSD (2280).

https://godgetreview.com/lenovo-legion-s7-16iah7-specs-and-details/

so your best bet is an internal 2nd NVMe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3tzg8oyQz4

heres also a good video showing how to install it

[sudden stratus]

Does slim matter? Because mine isnt a slim

I imagine its still the same process

[median marsh]

yea, i would suggest to order a nvme 2280 and then see if it fits

if it doesn't you can still get an external "case" for it

but honestly, i would invest in a 2TB one, and if it doesn't fit i would rather replace the original 500GB than messing with an external case

or 4TB if you can afford it

[sudden stratus]

I don't want to mess with transferring data and reinstalling windows though

No, I was just going to use it as additional storage

I keep having to uninstall and reinstall things because I don't have enough storage

Installing that NVMe doesnt seem to bad tbh. A lot easier than I was expecting

Not sure about RAM though

[fresh fog]

Hell ram is easier

Flick two clips and click it in

Just make sure you push down until both clips are fully seated

[sudden stratus]

Yeah, but in the video I was watching the guy couldn't figure out to access the RAM (keep in mind this is a laptop not desktop)

Or I could just attempt to build this over time https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QL9CmD (advice welcomed, never built a PC before)

[median marsh]

i'm not a fan of gskill memory

and the sata ssd is a waste of money if you have a board with nvme slots...

you get 4TB nvme for pretty much the same price

but it's at least 5 times faster

[sudden stratus]

The 4TB NVMe on part picker are like 200-400 dollars though

Might just fall back to 2TB anyways though. Can always add another 2TB later

I just don't understand the difference between these two. Their virtually identical.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nn2xFs Swapped out the memory and the Storage

[median marsh]

they use different controllers/flash chips probably and one might be faster than the other, but that's almost negligible

[fresh fog]

Ah. Laptops are harder yeah, typically they're in a little panel you have to unscrew, however sometimes it can be under other thinfs

For example my ram was below my HDD in my old laptop

And quite commonly you can void your warranty by changing laptop ram

Also make sure if you go the laptop route you buy the right memory

Laptop ram is typically in the sodimm format

Which is vastly different to the desktop ram you're probably used to seeing

Tbh the only laptops I've heard of using regular dimms are military

[sudden stratus]

Yeah, I might just do the SSD for this laptop and work towards a desktop build.

[frank glade]

https://ssupd.co/products/new-meshroom-d?variant=42245569872056

And matx!

[ruby belfry]

Hey yall
had a question that has been bugging me I have a dual 3090 with an amd threadripper setup and while work the comp gets quite warm borderline hot is that normal working in UE5

[silent wyvern]

is it stable?

[wild hill]

Hi, what is the equivalent RTX one to 7900xtx? Should I pick a AMD graphic card for UE5, I got lost for picking a graphic card recent days...

[frigid heath]

really doesnt matter much unless you want to do cuda or nvidia omniverse stuff

also some AI models work better on nvid or are harder to setup on amd

general dev stuff it doesnt matter much

[hardy marten]

I was eyeing a used 3080ti and it just sold out ugh

now I have to shell out extra $250+ to either buy a 6950XT or a 4070

which one do you think is better? primary use is to play Starfield and secondary use is UE5

[frank glade]

Hello there, I have a used 3080 Ti 😅

What was the asking price?

[median marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/pawn-pawn-star-20bucks-the-best-i-can-do-the-best-i-can-do-is20bucks-gif-15253458

[hardy marten]

it was $550

I am not from the US tho

[frank glade]

me neither, and I payed 1600 usd on mine lol

at the height of the gpu shortage

[hardy marten]

wow

[hardy marten]

my previous RX 580 died on me so I had to get ANOTHER RX 580 to survive

thankfully I found one for cheap

[wary elbow]

my current "learning set up" (the old aleienware sometimes is a osrs bot, just currently don't play osrs anymore, so not sure what imma do with it yet)

Hard to reach it. ( i thought for sure it would be to blury to notice thru a discord image, good eye)

[stray echo]

/strea,

[wild hill]

What, I think they said it is close to a 4080 =.=!

[wild hill]

Well, I'd would go 4080 or 4070ti, Nvidia

[sick cedar]

will those prices fall at some point ?

Like damm, at some point if keep rising will be hard choose to pick between a house or a gpu

[mighty cosmos]

in the defense of DLSS it's doing its job really well 😅

[sinful thicket]

Yup.

[fallen oasis]

Is this the equivalent of buying a cupboard and putting mirrors on teh walls?

[wary elbow]

I am newb, dont worry I learned to delete it today!

[wild hill]

Don't buy 980 Pro, it has 0E problem.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/x82mwe/samsung_ssd_smart_0e_issue/

yeah Samsung

[mighty cosmos]

Meanwhile I have all Samsung ssds with 0 issues for a couple of years now (tho most of them are sata)

[frank glade]

And my 970 failed after 2 weeks, got a new one in warranty

[median marsh]

you are aware that there is a firmware fix?

and that the majority in stores probably has that fix by now

[hardy marten]

wait what's wrong with samsung ssds

[wild hill]

My friend told me this issue, probably they have fixed it, idk. And I would go with 990 Pro or other brand, don't want to try it.

[median marsh]

nothing more than with other brands

[median marsh]

i think the 990 had the same bug so there goes your good advice...

[hardy marten]

ah okay then, i am considering buying one because of the insane speeds

(idk how fast my current ssd is lol)

lmao wow

vidya gaems

unrel ingine

i am gonna get a R9 lmao

[wild hill]

They say 990 pro use totally different controller and flash memory from 980 pro/970 evo plus.

[hardy marten]

never played a game with directstorage features

[median marsh]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-990-pro-firmware-update-released-ssd-health

they say no

so?

[hardy marten]

fair then

i mean why would they use an MS feature

[wild hill]

Oh! I would skip this series then.

[median marsh]

WHY

the problem is fixed with an firmware update

the "drives" are otherwise reliable

go grab some other company and try your luck there

i can send you my crucial paper weight

while others here have 0 problems with crucial drives

[hardy marten]

I'll monitor it the next time I launch battlefield 2042

only game that brings my PC to its knees

[wild hill]

But in the article, it said good news and bad news😆

[hardy marten]

WD is awesome

what happened now?

yk for some reason it never occurred to me

RPM class? heh?

and people will eat it up as usual

it's annoying

[median marsh]

90% of people dont care

they may not even know the difference between hdd and ssd

[hardy marten]

some of the shit people I know say...

makes me want to shoot myself

why can't I think of examples

[median marsh]

because you gave one 🥁

[hardy marten]

...I gave a drum? huh?

[wild hill]

Does now Windows needs virus protection software anymore? long time no use Windows.

[hardy marten]

the G502 hero is prone to faulty click switches, I'd suggest a G502 X: https://www.logitechg.com/en-in/products/gaming-mice/g502-x-wired-lightforce.910-006148.html

(used a hero, never used the X but the word is it's much better than hero)

defender is good, especially if it's pro

like win10/11 pro

[agile lodge]

seems alienware new aurora R product https://aw.gg/aurora-r16

[wild hill]

I used Logitech MX518 for 10 years and it had a restore version in 2018, and I also purchase this new one. It is very good for large hands.
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G-MX518-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B07M6RVW79

[fluid kernel]

4090 absolutely smashes fracturing operations. That is all.

[fallen oasis]

Smashes

I see what you did there.

[fresh fog]

Is it normal for overheating to cause graphical glitches? Was just on my work machine, noticed visual artifacts that became increasingly present. Felt the case and it was rather hot to the touch (no dust, all packaging removed, plenty of air) and then the screen went black and I had to hard restart

[fallen oasis]

Or it's on fire

Which, ironically, gets worse with added ventilation.

[fresh fog]

I mean it is a pretty bad case for ventilation.
It's a fractal pop air but they did away with all the mesh in favour of solid metal

Odd though, I've been running this thing daily for over a month and this is the first overheat

Definitely not on fire

[fallen oasis]

Take the side of the case off.

Replace it with some wire mesh.

Live the happy live.

[fresh fog]

A restart has fixed the overheating and graphical bugs for now. Guess I'll just have to keep an eye on it

Super strange. Although i wouldn't be surprised if faulty hardware is the cause

[fallen oasis]

Are you sure the gpu fan isn't full of dust?

[fresh fog]

Yeah

100%

I'm gonna bet it's faulty hardware, because the NIC seemed to have been damaged in transit too.

I'll keep an eye on things and give it a clean out anyway just in case it's some super rare invisible alien dust :P

I'll see what I can find when I have a clean of it. Reluctant to do too much since it's a work machine. Don't want them saying it was my fault :P

Yeah, that's why I'm betting on the damaged hardware.

[median marsh]

some CPU cooler notes also said that they should be dismounted for transport because their weight adds so much force on the mainboard PCB that it could damage it

https://faqs.noctua.at/support/solutions/articles/101000352396-should-i-take-off-the-cpu-cooler-before-transporting-my-system-#:~:text=As it is not possible,fan).

[fresh fog]

I can definitely believe that with something like the noctua nh-d15 lol

Fortunately mine is an aio

[timber cobalt]

Yeah, I agree. Speaking from experience :/

Also the thermal paste squeezed out by the vibrations.

[plush turret]

ok so if my PCU is rated for 350w and my rig says total 345w usage, im alright yeah?

[median marsh]

depends on the PSU and your components...

if you are going to buy an psu, just oversize a bit, it wont consume more power because of that

[plush turret]

alright was just curious if the PSU i pulled from my old computer rated for 350 might be worth temp using

is this enough wires for a 4090 & full sized MB

also whats the benefit of a modular PSU over one with all the cords?

[median marsh]

modular => you only attach the cables that you need, so you end up with less clutter in the case

[plush turret]

ah

[median marsh]

i prefer semi modular, the chances that you use the ATX connector is 100% 😄

[plush turret]

true

also theres a "refresh" button on my case... what does it do?

[median marsh]

🤷

[plush turret]

its got the circular arrow. im hoping its not a restart button

[median marsh]

is that case from wish.com?

[plush turret]

its a corsair

4000d

i cant seem to find the name for the button so google isnt as helpful

everything in this computer is top notch for a reasonable price

12th gen k class cpu, 64gb ram, and a 4090 are going into it (GPU is last cause expense)

any good 120mm fans?

like from what yall know about companies?

[plush turret]

Whats the difference between full and mid tower?

[plush turret]

I know not for the 4090

Im buying this in stages

But i own a 350 from an old build

Ah

I have lots of storage and im going through the old stuff to see what might be good to keep

I have a 1kw psu on my list

80 plus gold assuming that's good

Im assuming 80+ is efficiency, and gold is metal

In conducting? Its copper, gold, platinum

Ah

Yeah google says its second best

Whats better?

Platinum? And what?

Im on a hotspot and the image hasn't loaded yet

All i want is quiet, and to not guzzle my energy bill

I know the 4090 is a power hog

At least when i render

The case is at least a beast. Slots for 7 fans

Yeah and theres leeway in noise. Main thing is unless im rendering the trillion pixel image it shouldn't sound like its trying to go to warp

Yeah

I always have some movie or show playing on my media computer

Just shouldn't have to fight my movie

For sound. My desktop has a decent hum on its 2, 21 year old fans

Its cpu however has shit power still being an old dual core

Antec any good?

[median marsh]

never had problems with antec stuff (but my sample margin is quite smol)

[plush turret]

So would mine, just curious in case i want ultra airflow

I have HVAC training and have a major setup in my office

[spice girder]

The specific case is more important that the brand, any most brands more good and bad cases for air flow. The fans (that includes the case, GPU and CPU Cooler fans) take a part in how loud the pc underload gets.

[plush turret]

I have a corsair 4000d

[spice girder]

air flow or glass front?

[plush turret]

Flow. Brand new, bought it on the 2nd

Got it 12 hours ago

Oh it has one side of the case is glass. But 3 of the sides are simply screened with fans

*i think of front as the tall narrow bit opposite of the MB ports

[spice girder]

the front is the important one in that case.

The case should not could problems.
That the PC gets loader under load is normal.

[plush turret]

Oh im aware

Its more that ive had pcs that "go to warp" for just about everything

Granted it was a cheap POS from 2007

[glass mist]

Is 600w psu good for i9 10th gen and nvidia 3050 rtx ?

for UE development and games 🙏

[plush turret]

The gold 80?

Oh thats like 8 years old

I get everyones old rigs, and i keep the parts

[glass mist]

Ya 2TB nvme, 5 fans, rgb’s, 32gb RAM

[plush turret]

In the new? Im getting a dedicated fan

We talked about it like 2 weeks ago

Noctua u12s

The pcu is a corsair rm1000e

Oh ive just had some weird units given to me

One was a full tower on its side that hinged open like the hood on your car

It had its mb in the base and 3 SATA drives on the upper side

Question, uh im assuming the noctua doesn't sit like a classice cpu fan

The u12s

Nice

I still have so many questions about how that works, ill hunt down an explanation

#1 is how i mount that

I cant seem to find one

[glass mist]

Hi @iron zenith .. occt power test instantly restarts the pc .. so is psu the issue ?

while cpu stress test i left it 30 min, it worked fine and furmark too i tried , no restarts .. but in 1280*720 only though, will increase and test again in some time

[sleek stag]

What is a good medium range Nvidia GPU for Unreal?

[sleek stag]

yeah I seen a 3060-ti with 16gb but i guess they messed that up

i guess my only option is a 4070

oh my bad 4060ti

Yeah 600$ for it

[glass mist]

so GPU test with furmark also done, in QHD for 1 min, no shutdowns, worked fine and with OCCT, i ran RAM test too for default 30 min, temp is going 90+ but no shutdowns or weird things happened. i didn't want to start power test again and searching in google.. thanks for helping and can u maybe tell if any tools are available or something to narrow down the issue ?

[sleek stag]

a couple 3060 near me for 300$

Whats sad is I am using a 1080 that came out in 2016

ranked 53 on gpubenchmark and 3060 is 56

[glass mist]

ya but should i test with power test by swapping psu / gpu or ? because, other than power test, i don't have anything to test on as UE5 sometimes work well and sometimes crashes in random ..

[sleek stag]

I was thinking about getting the 13900k microcenter bundle

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006265/intel-i9-13900k,-asus-tuf-z790-plus-wifi,-gskill-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-combo

yeah I would add more

oh

so 2x 32?

hmm ok

then might be best to use my current mobo and buy the cpu and ram individually

will have to research that

[hardy marten]

should I choose an rtx 4070 or rx 6950xt? both cost almost the same and I'll be using it almost exclusively for gaming and game dev

will be working on some pretty heavy projects

the rx has more vram and all but the rtx has rt cores, tensor cores, dlss 3 and more

[sleek stag]

I read that nvidia cards are better with unreal. I think it was something to do with lighting but don't know if its true or not

[mighty cosmos]

Nothing specifically better, Lumen doesn't use RT cores in software mode and in HW mode it barely makes a difference since it's still heavily relies on its software parts
Only thing that might have some difference is GPU lightmass, have used the rx6900xt myself a while ago with UE5 just fine

I would consider 6950 for the VRAM

[frigid heath]

also you need to put em in matching slots to be able to utilize dual channel i believe

[hardy marten]

oh yeah I meant the 6950, my bad

I see

these choices are much harder than what was there 5 years ago lol

[plush turret]

they are

im building my own rig

and first time im using new gen parts

all 3 of my desktops are Frankenstein rigs cobbled from 3 dozen spare rigs

[sinful thicket]

If it's for Unreal Engine I recommend a 7950X. It performs better.

[plush turret]

ah microcenter, i really should stop by there next time i get paid

[median marsh]

so 3090TI is currently at $1300 for a new card here, is it worth it?

[wild hill]

Oh, 7950x beat 13900K in UE.

The prices looks they are not is the same level.

[sinful thicket]

The 7950X is actually cheaper than the 13900K on Amazon right now, but they're normally roughly the same price.

[wild hill]

I would go 4080 if this diagram is true. 4080 needs 280$ more than 7900xtx in my country.

[wild hill]

Yeah, it could be. However, 7950x is cheaper about 281$ than 13900k in my country 😁

[plush turret]

Isnt the 4070 same vram power for less cash?

[median marsh]

no, 3090TI has 24GB, 4070 has 12GB

[plush turret]

Ah

gets 4090, plays minecraft with it

[wild hill]

And 4080 has 16GB

[plush turret]

Doesn't the 4060ti have 16?

Its also only 500

[median marsh]

yea but not worth upgrading from 12GB to 16 imho

[plush turret]

The 8 is 400

• tax

[median marsh]

that would be a downgrade from my 3060 😄

[plush turret]

The 3060 has more than 8?

[median marsh]

yea, 12GB

[plush turret]

Weird

Is it the ti or stock?

[median marsh]

it's like getting 12GB on a 4070TI but 16GB on a 4060TI

guess stuff like that happens when you throw all your smart people into development rather than marketing

so those hybrid cards, are they better/worse than "pure" air/liquid cooled?

considering that one https://rog.asus.com/graphics-cards/graphics-cards/rog-strix/rog-strix-lc-rtx3090ti-24g-gaming-model/

[plush turret]

The 12gb 4070 is apparently canceled and hasn't yet been released

At least research into the 40 series yielded that info

[median marsh]

it's in stock at several dealers here

[plush turret]

Ah i misread the 12gb 4080

But isn't there usually a xx50 class gpu each series?

But comes out last?

[wild hill]

To understand what all those numbers means, takes me lots of time. Although, I'm still lost when which video card I should go.

[hardy marten]

the one im planning rn would be my second rig - i built my first one with futureproofing in mind but turns out teen me didn't know jackshit about the future

I have an R7 1700 + RX 580 rn

team red ftw (or so I thought)

I could go for an R9 5900X using the same mobo I'm using rn but I am scared I'll fry it

apparently the VRM of it isn't that good

if I were to buy a new mobo, might as well upgrade to AM5

wait why did I type all that lmfaoo

welp since i did type all that, that is my situation rn

AM4 or AM5? R9 5900X or 7900X? RX 6950XT or RTX 4070?

so many questions; so little answers

I just want to finish building it by the end of the month so I can play Starfield on time ;-;

[sleek stag]

I went and bought a 13900k and 4070 yesterday. I prefer intel over AMD and I went with 4070 for the VRAM since I don't play games.

[plush turret]

what all are you wanting to do with your rig?

[plush turret]

this is my second "bought rig" the first was a present i picked out from the old tiger direct store. way back in 2015. that computer is still chugging along to this day with a new 4TB HDD and holding all my movies

that one was a cheap POS when i got it, but it was honestly vastly better than anything else i had (windows XP home edition laptop with a 32gb IDE HDD

that stinking laptop had 256mb ram and i played games on it for 5 years. and i bought and upgraded it to SP3 using... of all things... 4 floppy disks

[hardy marten]

hah! my current (first) rig is from just 2 years later - 2017 (or was it 2016?) and I later chose to buy a couple SSDs because the HDDs were failing

I am honestly surprised that the idiot from 5-7 years ago actually managed to build something that would last for, well, the last 5-7 years

[hardy marten]

oh yeah, my very first PC (back in 2012, I think) was a pentium-something powered shit with 2-4 GB of RAM for sure

I played GTA:SA for a couple years at a stellar 20 fps until I tried to mod it and fried that PC

took me 4+ years to get a newer one lmao

[plush turret]

my first "gaming" computer, was an hp slim with windows vista and 2gm ram

it struggled to play minecraft in 2010

[hardy marten]

lmaooo

I win tho, a 2004 game that couldn't run on a 2010 pc

[plush turret]

ahaha

i win for oldest laptop that struggled to play an indie game from 2008 (the original sins of a solar empire)

the sucker had a 3.5 inch floppy drive built in

[hardy marten]

i only played SA for literally years

and still, somehow, never managed to even START the campaign

I have no idea about the plot

[hardy marten]

holy shit

[plush turret]

same, all games i wanted i had to buy and the cheap disk ones from the discount book store were all i had

even in 2016

[hardy marten]

I actually obtained a new copy for real cheap on amazon

back then

I found the manual that came with the disk a few days ago

[plush turret]

parents were never big on gaming stuff, though they probably would have gotten me something to play/play on if i really asked, i just never did

sins?

yeah ive been playing the series since it came out

[hardy marten]

pretty much the same but my dad got me san andreas and flash forward a decade

[hardy marten]

and here I am, talking about PCs on a server meant for a game engine support

[hardy marten]

yk something? the highest amount of time I have in a game is 200 hours

all these years

never crossed that

tells you about my attention span

[plush turret]

i played the original sins for hours every day after school because it was the ONLY game that laptop could play

[hardy marten]

you knew what steam was back then? I deffo didn't

[plush turret]

nope, id heard of it now and then

tbh sins rebellion was what got me off game disks into steam

[hardy marten]

how do you have 2k hours on it then damn

[plush turret]

i got it a week after it came out, when they were having a $10 discount if you proved you had a previous game by submitting a serial number

i got steam in 2012

but had been gaming for years since

*beforew

[hardy marten]

wow that sounds so... vintage? can't find the right word for it

[plush turret]

"retro"

[hardy marten]

I got my account in 2017, the same year I built the PC I'm on rn

[plush turret]

yeah and i bought sins 2 literally within an hour of its early access release

[hardy marten]

yeah that's it

[hardy marten]

big fan, huh?

[plush turret]

oh yeah. i probably know more about that games working than anyone but the dev team. i tore it apart for over a decade

[hardy marten]

did it have mod support and all that?

[plush turret]

not back then, all we could do was edit the maps and text based files

[hardy marten]

I only recently got to tear apart games lol

every Fallout game

console commands are my best friends

[sharp crescent]

Hey guys. Does anyone here uses laptop for UE5 and can recommend something thats not too overpriced? Im looking for something with i5, 32gb ram and RTX 4050 - would that be enough to run UE with decent performance in 1080p?

[plush turret]

well actually "running" UE5 is one thing, rendering and building for it is another

and a 4050 mobile wont be terrible for rendering, just slow and power hungry

i rendered my first game on an MX250

took 4 days

[sharp crescent]

I just need it for some basic prototyping - lets say, running something like the new RTS template

hmm it says 6gb

[plush turret]

my MX250 had 2

[sharp crescent]

i take it differs per model/manufacure

[plush turret]

and pretty low quality 2gb

still worked for my small arena game

doesnt the render power required go up with the complexity of the game?

[sharp crescent]

what about CPU? Is it ok to go with i5 vs i7?

[frigid heath]

i hate laptops, cuz the last time i wanted to repaste my cpu and gpu... those things often use like 1$ cooling paste or some shit... i really couldnt reach the chips

like stuff seemed to be glued together and shit

[plush turret]

i mean laptops arent really built to be upgradable?

[worldly lagoon]

I was able to find a tear down video before I purchased mine, to confirm it was possible to add another m2 SSD and service the chips. The thing does overheat like crazy. When I did replace the paste and pads with top quality replacements I found there was next to no thermal improvement.

Rebuilding a PC right now. I can't work seriously on maps with this laptop, texture streaming struggles too much.

[sharp crescent]

I tested UE5 on my girlfriend laptop and it was running fine with lumen on the basic vehicle scene (58fps at 1080p - without lumen 120fps)- the only issue it had is heating and disc space - it was also taking 11gb ram out of 16 so I'll probably go for 32gb version.

[worldly lagoon]

I've been doing a lot of work on this, but will help to go back to the big power sucking box.

[sharp crescent]

yeah desktop wins, but i often spend weekends in a hut away from home and taking the big box with me is a pain in the b.....

[plush turret]

yeah my lifestyle also sucked for rigs until recently

im building a 12th gen i7, 64gb ram, 4090 rig

with WIFI

im tempted to wait for the 4090ti to come out

to buy the GPU at least

[mighty cosmos]

It was cancelled apparently (according to leaks)

[plush turret]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-no-no-emote-emote-nooo-emote-gif-23071619

hawk wanted something really beefy for futureproofing

[mighty cosmos]

4090 is beyond overkill for gaming already

[plush turret]

game and dev

[mighty cosmos]

Also for the 4090 you want the latest high end cpu you can get

[fallen oasis]

Except star citizen, where it's well below min spec.

[crisp kernel]

I'm using it for my work station in the office and it runs electric dream only about 50fps😅
So I just wanna say stop dreaming about non-optimization for runtime performance and it is definitely no way just do all for free

[mighty cosmos]

Well you can make even the 4090 cry real quick if you wanted to 😅

[crisp kernel]

Yeah, I mean lots of new dev team that being misleaded with the promotion that lumen+nanite just save the world. That's not true.

[plush turret]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09FXNVDBJ/

[wind egret]

Top of the line 4090 with an almost-budget CPU?

[plush turret]

my MB ir rated for 12th gen only

there a better 12th gen CPU you suggest?

[crisp kernel]

You could try threadripper maybe😅

[plush turret]

speed isn't my only focus, id like to get a decent setup which should be good at building games for a while and playing them a while longer

[crisp kernel]

Epic is using them as the workstation CPUs

[mighty cosmos]

You can get the i9

[plush turret]

is it enough better?

for the price

i made this with an MX250: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1701760/Park_Rangers_of_The_Undead/?beta=0

Steam

Park Rangers of The Undead

Welcome To Brentwood National Park. You have been hired by The Company to rid the park of its wildlife, which just happen to be ZOMBIES. As a retired Mercenary you are qualified to use any and all means at your disposal to achieve victory.

Price

$0.99

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[wind egret]

Not sure how good an extra 4 E-cores and a ~5% clock boost is, on the i9.
It's just so strange to see that and a 4090 together in a build aimed at futureproofing.

[crisp kernel]

https://www.amd.com/en/case-studies/epic-games
Just FYI. If you are using Unreal engine, why not following Epic's hardware selection. Just my opinion. Nvidia CPU and AMD CPU.

[plush turret]

i already have the MB

gotta wait till september to buy more

tbh the 4090 can be pulled out and put into something newer unless someone wants to make an entirely new style of PCIe

im at a mix of "high power" and "budget" i know. but i get about $370 a month extra after bills from my disability checks

[wild hill]

Create games with UE5 as main purpose. And play games if I have space time.

[plush turret]

then the case study as joseph says might be your best bet

im going for "bang for buck" that doesnt require 3+ months to get the core of the computer

this is what im getting

[frank glade]

I think a lot of 12th gen motherboards can support 13th gen with a bios update

[plush turret]

690 chipset

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09KKYXXQB

[frank glade]

doesn't matter

but if you don't have a slot for usb bios update

then you need a 12th gen cpu to slot in to update

[mighty cosmos]

Ah I thought you were building a brand new system

Just saw your comment

[plush turret]

i am

im just buying it $370 at a time

[median marsh]

why

save up all the money, then buy it, hardware prices drop daily

[plush turret]

part of my problem is im an impulse micro spender, i drain my bank accounts like crazy when i have money, buying random shit i dont need, saving is insanely hard

so when i buy something big, i usually have to find someone i can trust to hold the cash while i save up, or like this, buy it in small bits and build it

[median marsh]

this is an good opportunity to practice saving

[plush turret]

ive tried for 9 years, doesnt work well for me, like i said i micro spend it, lunch with friends, a trinket, or something, usually just $20 or less, and over a few weeks can drain $300 out of my account

and i did buy what was on sale

the MB, and case were/are on sale

the MB is huge, bigger thgan the other ones i have in my scrappers

and the case is really nice, almost 100% metal

i mean my scrappers are metal inside but its all shit plastic outsides

and im buying monitors

[wild hill]

Cool, now I'm using my MBP M1 to learn UE5, it is a 3500$ build... but only offer me 35 FPS on my 4K monitor and sample project like City doesn't support Mac platform. That is why I want to purchase a PC.

[plush turret]

i see the problem apple product

[wild hill]

For SSD I would go 990 Pro, 980 Pro has 0E issue.

[plush turret]

yeah SSD is the last thing im getting, my old laptop SSD is compatible so once i get the PSU, CPU, and ram, ill have a working computer

[wild hill]

And maybe you could go i7 13700K, no big price difference with 12700K

Because you already buy the top 4090 video card.

[plush turret]

havent bought yet, but yeah 4090 is planned

[wild hill]

Yeah, the idea is throw money on GPU and CPU mainly I guess.

[plush turret]

ye

granted ill be gaming more than developing, but its nice to have a gpu that will be future proof for the next like 6-8 years as a good gaming computer

id use my "ultra" case if i didnt need it for my media desktop

32TB 2/3 filled with movies, tv, and songs

4 chained 8tb HDD's

is the ARC 750 any good as a $200 GPU?

[median marsh]

havent i told you the other day that the 990 is also affected by the firmware bug?

and that it's kinda nonsense to avoid them, now that the bug was fixed...

[plush turret]

any good 4tb SSD's? i like my big games

and my top 4 take up like 600gb just sitting there

does my RAM being RGB affect actual usage?

cause idk if the ram i picked is the best i can get

MB is DDR5 rated

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BJ7X9P1W

what i currently have (in my list)

whats the main aspect im looking for in my ram

i know i need both sticks to be same speed, and DDR5

whats else?

[median marsh]

i dont have good experience with g.skill

[plush turret]

i was curious cause there less and more expensive options

i know i want 2x32

what went wrong with gskill?

[median marsh]

2/6 sticks defect within a few years of usage

which might explain why they can offer them so cheap, probably using dram chips which other manufactors wouldn't consider to use

as there are different quality levels....

[plush turret]

teamgroup good?

or corsair?

[median marsh]

corsair might be okayish, idk their quality standards, only had 2 sticks of them

Samsung/SKHynx/Micron(Crucial) are the major brands

anyone else buys their dram from one of those and just puts their label on it