ue4-general

[fringe rivet]

what

Aren’t the trees the forest

[tender mountain]

It's a saying. It's when you have so many details, you miss the big picture

[oblique flame]

@tender mountain, Pretty much what happens is that when I click either gunner or bruiser, it runs this. Somewhere in here I need to figure out how to change the level while also carrying over which character I picked.

[fringe rivet]

Oh lol

[tender mountain]

Something staring you in the face but you can't see it because you are full of all this other stuff

[fringe rivet]

@oblique flame broooo

You use a Shadow PC too?

[oblique flame]

yer sir

[fringe rivet]

less goo

I thought it was uncommon

[oblique flame]

Shadow pc is awesome, using a 100$ shitty laptop and runs like a charm

good stuff

[brisk bridge]

Is it possible to use Blendspaces in a Sequencer?

[fringe rivet]

ye

[fringe rivet]

Clarifying, I have zero idea what that is, I was responding to the message before this

@tender mountain it didn’t work -_-

Same problem

[tender mountain]

Do some tests on a new blank project. Just have like a button that sets your game instance character variable to Gunner. Then change level. Then in the next level, spawn an cube character if game instance character variable is gunner. That way you isolate the part you are testing and making sure it works. If that works, then you have something else messing it up.

You can also have a double print string test with will print both variables of any branches to see if you are getting the right values.

Both of these are my fav debugging techniques.

To clarify, new Project

Not a new map.

[late stag]

8hrs of my life just to have written 2,105 lines of code 😭

[fringe rivet]

Why did this happen

Why did I enable VOIP

My project’s officially broken

[late stag]

rip

[fringe rivet]

Months of work..

UE4 has few bugs, but when you get them, they’re devastating

[tender mountain]

Try removing the part of your project that is linked to VOIP

[meager marlin]

How would I approach a method to save a game layout that heavily uses the spawn actor script? Say user spawns actors around a map and saves the game. Upon loading the game, the actors should show up in their saved location and rotation. Note these aren't actors placed directly from the editor but rather dynamically placed in-game.

So uh, any insight or solutions?

[tender mountain]

The broken part. But make sure you have the whole project backed up.

[drowsy snow]

The more obvious way is to serialize the actors. But that's a bit finicky to setup.

[tender mountain]

The individual modules should work fine so you can just copy and paste them into a new project

Does a new project work?

[grim ore]

why would one put in months of work and not put in 10 minutes to back up the work...

[late stag]

8hrs of work feels so little

yet the editor can Load project templates for game projects

creatnew game projects

[meager marlin]

😩

[late stag]

Load game projects

add and remove scenes with a undo-redo system

[grim ore]

@meager marlinI can say whenever I approached this issue I had either a base class that was used that I could track for saving, or you could use an interface or tag to indicate that info. Then you can get them all and save out the data you need to recreate it on load

[late stag]

add game entitys and components to those entitys

and a log

all within 2,000 lines of code

crazy

[meager marlin]

Whenever I execute the spawn actor script, add another execute that adds that actor's coordinates and ID to an array?

[fringe rivet]

It’s not about backing it up, I have a backup

It’s the engine

The plugin I enabled was built in, it wasn’t even experimental

[tender mountain]

So the engine won't even load up a new project?

[grim ore]

@meager marlinsave game -> get all your entities in the world that you want to recreate and save out that important data (class, transform) to your save file. on loading, reverse.

its basic but it doesnt sound like you need advanced

[fringe rivet]

Not that one in particular

[grim ore]

you just need a class to spawn the actor, you said location and rotation so you store the transform or just loc and rot

[tender mountain]

So just your latest project version is not working?

[grim ore]

when you enable the plugin, its part of the project. disable the plugin in your project.

or turn off enabledbydefault in the engine plugin if you did that for some reason

[drowsy snow]

Create a new blank BP project, copy the Config and Content files.
If you have any C++ code, rename the .uproject file to match the old one, and copy the Source folder.

[oblique flame]

Oh wait hold on @tender mountain I got some good progress here

[grim ore]

again... if its just a plugin, disable the plugin

[tender mountain]

He can't access it and the project file doesn't list it.

[grim ore]

then the plugin isnt being used

the .uproject has all of your plugins you enabled

the engine isnt going to just turn on a plugin at random

[fringe rivet]

I can’t disable it

That’s my problem

[tender mountain]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Although the project files may be trying to access the plugin that's not there..

[fringe rivet]

It’s nowhere to be seen in the files

[grim ore]

and again if for some reason the engine plugin is enabled for some reason and you didnt do it for some reason then disable it in the engine folder

[drowsy snow]

Try this @fringe rivet

[oblique flame]

wrong video

my bad

[meager marlin]

So when spawning actors, also attach an executable that stores said actor's location, rotation, and type of actor? Like in an array? So when the game is saved, that array is saved with that savegame object no? So when loading the game, I iterate through my array, using the spawn actor script and using the array's actor, location, and rotation per index? That's the way I think of it.

[fringe rivet]

Wouldn’t this break my project?

[grim ore]

@meager marlindo you have any reason to care about the information you are saving before you save?

[fringe rivet]

Wiping content would wipe all of my assets

[drowsy snow]

No, as long as you copy all the correct folders: Config, Content

[grim ore]

@fringe rivet so your .uproject file has nothing in it?

[fringe rivet]

It does

Just nothing for the plugin

[oblique flame]

@tender mountain Ok i was able to make it so it changes level, and I made a player start so it spawns there, but i cant move and the view is messed up, any ideas, progress!

[fringe rivet]

Oh, move it to a new project?

[grim ore]

then how do you know this plugin is causing an issue?

[drowsy snow]

Yeah, though copy it just for safety reasons.

[tender mountain]

Also if it's 1 specific asset, then just copying over 1 at a time and seeing which breaks it is a good idea. Might take an hour or 2 but most of the project saved.

[drowsy snow]

I won't try do that for individual asset due to asset references.

[fringe rivet]

This would be almost impossible, there are thousands and thousands of assets

[meager marlin]

I'm making a sort of map editor for a school project. The map is empty at first. We let the user spawn actors to populate the map such as crates and boxes. The user can then save the layout (the types of boxes and where they are) to a save slot. User can later load their layout if they need to.

[tender mountain]

You have to get your player controller to posses the character in the new level.

[grim ore]

@meager marlinyes, so you only care about it when you save. so again. you find the items you want when you hit save, save out that info, and reverse it when your loading

how you ID what you need to save depends on your classes

which plugin did you enable @fringe rivet ?

[tender mountain]

Do chunks then first. First 50%, then the next. Which one breaks it? Then another 50%. Until you narrow it down.

[fringe rivet]

VoiceChat

[grim ore]

well theres no "voice chat"

theres EOS voice chat, there is voice chat interface,

[analog dew]

!stream

[fringe rivet]

Wdym

[tender mountain]

Oh Mathew you're the WTF is video guy right?

[meager marlin]

How to fetch the items I want? Like a... get all actors function in blueprint?

[fringe rivet]

OHH

No wonder he was familiar

[drowsy snow]

Message @buoyant granite directly, not in the text channels.

[analog dew]

really sorry

[grim ore]

so I can say... I enabled all 3 voice chat plugins, and got the error, and my .uproject has the plugin like expected.

@meager marlinyes, get all actors if they are a base class you can use or something like get by tag if you tag them after spawning or use interfaces. there are plenty of ways

[fringe rivet]

Where did you find that section???

I didn’t even see that plugin

[grim ore]

in my .uproject, where its supposed to be

[drowsy snow]

We told you hours ago, it's in the .uproject file

[grim ore]

and disabling it lets it load like expected

[fringe rivet]

Yes, I know

I was in it

[grim ore]

are you sure your in the right project then

[fringe rivet]

I looked up “voice” and didn’t see it

Positive

[grim ore]

dunno, but this is how UE4 works

the only other way might be if you actually copied the plugins into your project but even then.. not likely

[meager marlin]

Ok I like the idea of the tags. There's a function in blueprints for setting a tag to a fresh newly spawned actor I'm assuming?

[grim ore]

@meager marlinyou can get or set tags on actors at runtime, yes

[drowsy snow]

I would be surpised if you haven't even tried making a new project and copying all your stuff to there at this point.

[fringe rivet]

No, I just got out of a meeting

[grim ore]

theres no reason to start over tho. your project is saying load this plugin, if you tell it not to do that then... it wont do it lol

[tender mountain]

Yeah that's what I'd be doing. Maybe 1 asset is corrupt.

[grim ore]

the plugin is "Voice Chat Interface" btw for the full name

[fringe rivet]

No, it’s not telling me to load it, it just doesn’t open

There’s not even any trace of the plugin in the files, I don’t know why it’s saying there is

[fringe rivet]

I’ll try searching again

[drowsy snow]

And it's barely taking any time to copy the folders, and creating new projects. There's little chance for the engine to recompile shaders.

[fringe rivet]

If it doesn’t work, I’ll do this

[grim ore]

you shouldnt need to search.. how long can your uproject be?

[fringe rivet]

Very

very long

[grim ore]

like paste it here even if needed

[drowsy snow]

You said not even your text editor's search function yields any result. You're not lying, or mistyping?

[grim ore]

maybe your text editor is doing exact matching not partial

[fringe rivet]

Why would I lie

That benefits no one

Meh, I’ll just migrate the files

[grim ore]

paste your .uproject to pastebin for curiousities sake, I am curious how it could be very long

[fringe rivet]

alright

oh no

..

I’m super dumb

It was Engine I spent an hour looking through

He, and no, I wasn’t trolling

[drowsy snow]

If you're afraid of breaking NDA, I'll post mine.

[fringe rivet]

I see the plugin in the right file -_-

Thanks for the help, sorry for wasting lots of time

[grim ore]

looking at Engine what?

[fringe rivet]

I don't know how I made this mistake

again, really sorry for wasting your time

[tender mountain]

Your videos rock. Thank you for them

[fringe rivet]

Yeah, you helped me understand casting and object spawning

[drowsy snow]

We told you to look at the .uproject file, not the .ini file...

Maybe it's my bad I didn't mention about not opening .ini file, but those files are not even related with plugins.

[grim ore]

they dont have file extensions enabled

which I realize is going to be an issue for most people since its off by default lol

and well.. people who dont know what extensions are since windows and macos hides them so well

so all around, learning experience. windows sucks!

ugh

[tender mountain]

First thing I do on a reinstall of windows.

[grim ore]

super learning experience, I just realized I always turn them on by default and showing people how .uproject files work isnt going to make sense for some people

@plush yew yeah I was watching some content on how newer generations just search, no need to organize

[fringe rivet]

newer generations

is that a self insult

[drowsy snow]

We have this kind of unwritten rule that showing file extension is a must for anyone working with making software.

[tender mountain]

Well have fun all 😄 L8rs

[fringe rivet]

Bye

[grim ore]

@fringe rivetheh, no insult intended to anyone it's just the way operating systems have changed in the last decade to hide the stupid stuff and let you get to what you want easier.

[fringe rivet]

Yeah, I was wondering why I couldn't see the ".blank" part, I was able to do so a few years back

[grim ore]

its the same way we dont dial phone numbers anymore lol, we just pick a person now

[fringe rivet]

What?? You don't dial phone numbers?

[grim ore]

the bad part about this is I just realized that this might be a good reason to have a wide and diverse group of people evaluating learning content

well not bad, insightful

[fringe rivet]

Like a cool kids group

[grim ore]

well I try and get my kids to do it but its boring work to them lol

[nimble moat]

Can someone point me in the right direction, ive been trying to make something where my cursor slides an object but only along 1 axis and responsive (user has to actually slide the block) but there is no tutorials on that at all and im not even sure where to start with it

[grim ore]

so click and hold mouse, move mouse to the right, block moves on the X axis ?

[nimble moat]

Yes!

I tried physics way but it seemed way to intense performance wise

[grim ore]

thats basically how you do it then. use mouse input and track the mouse location each frame and as it moves you add that to just one axis on the item

you need some way to know when its down, you could use just a normal input even for pressed and released. You could then use the tick when your event is now true to move the item.

or you could use a mouse input axis which checks each frame and on down move it instead of using a tick

[nimble moat]

I already have most the mechanic down everything works fine its just been finding the correct/best way to do the sliding mechanic

I see what you mean though, on mouse down update location of block

And only use the X or Y strut

[grim ore]

theres a few ways, just have to pick one. basically identify when the mouse is down and then check the mouse position this frame compared to the last frame and you can move the item on just one axis that much

needs some tweaking such as maybe adjusting that move amount based on frame rate (delta seconds for this)

and if you want it smooth you could do things like lerping over time or clamping your amount per frame to move

[nimble moat]

Yeah, thanks for your advice. I wouldnt class myself as beginner more intermediate but this one stumped me for awhile

[grim ore]

its not a simple easy thing to do well but break it down and thentweak it

so this code is like the minimum needed

store if the mouse is down, inputaxisturn is just mouse X (set up in template, im lazy), and if the mouse is down im just adding positive or negative to the Y axis to a cube in the world

its not frame rate independent and it has no cap if you move your mouse really fast, but its a start

[drowsy snow]

❓ BTW is there any drawbacks to store USF shaders directly in project level (Project\Shaders\), versus storing them in plugin level (Project\Plugin\ShaderPlugin\Shaders\)? Aside from reusability, that is.

[zinc shore]

how can i make a aim assist wher if your using a controller it will auto aim if close to a target and turn it off when using a mouse

do they show a way to make it only happen when the controller is rotating the camera not the mouse

[drowsy snow]

Just check if the mouse gives any input or not at any time.

[weak gale]

So I just ended up reformatting my hardrives, and all the free monthly content I downloaded seems to be gone from my epic account. Does anyone know if there is a way to get these back?

There was a blockout plugin I used quite a bit that I particularly miss

[drowsy snow]

Log back in to your Epic Games account, and download them again. As far as ownership goes, they're yours forever once you claim it.

[weak gale]

They don't show up in my library despite being on my epic account which is whats confusing me

I'm checking my order history and they don't seem to come up. Could this be due to just clicking the install button instead of adding to cart and checking out first?

[plush yew]

sorry Im learning unreal and clicked the wrong thing, I reopened my project and the sequencer is empty?

[fringe rivet]

Did it save

[plush yew]

I believe so, although I could be wrong, shouldn't I be able to see add to track per object regardless?

Ah nevermind, I just had to right click to edit it, sorry hundreds of buttons to learn.

[weak gale]

ok all of my free for the month content is just gone from my account

everything else is there, just not that stuff specifically

I just replaced most of my computer with new parts, but I don't know why the monthly content wouldn't be saved the same way as everything else

[drowsy snow]

The Launcher is the one to blame, not your account.

I dare to swear they're yours forever once you claim them.

[weak gale]

Ill relaunch and see what happens

[drowsy snow]

Also, magic bullet: restart

[weak gale]

Ok so I did some poking around and I somehow have 2 accounts?

[drowsy snow]

If you're trying to achieve something specific with Niagara, currently there's no tutorials for specific things you're looking for.

Though there's quite a few on the basics of Niagara system.

[peak oxide]

2 Questions I'd like to understand better, shown in this video. Import position and lightmap settings. Thanks.

@ 8 secs I drop in the models, they snap to existing objects, I overwhelmingly want to drop these at the [0,0,0] postion - is there an option for that?

@ 27 secs I'm tweaking the mesh settings. See my Source Lightmap Index resets back to 0 each time I set it, the 2nd time it sets the index as I requested. I also set the resolution in 2 areas, the Lod build and the general settings. What should I be doing instead?

Shouldn't the Source Lightmap Index generally always be the Destination Lightmap index? UV2?

Thanks for the advice!

[drowsy snow]

For the first question, just reset the location vector value.

[grim ore]

@peak oxidesource is the UV it will use when making a lightmap uv when in the engine, destination is the uv channel that lightmap will be created for (notice this is the build section). down farther is the section where you specify which actual uv to use for your lightmap

so setting it 1 and 1 isnt effective

thats why its normally 0 and 1, 0 for the main UV and 1 is the lightmap uv that the importer created

as for the lightmap resolution, build again is when its generating a lightmap in the engine. general would be for the mesh itself that it would actually use (notice the build says min resolution again for building the UV lightmap)

[lunar hollow]

Anyone know what kind of math formula I would need to keep all of my values within the blue box?

[grim ore]

generally ABS (absolute) which makes sure your values end up positive only

but it depends on what you are doing

[lunar hollow]

Im trying to randomly generate values, but only within that blue box

[noble forge]

Very noob to the software here...
How would you guys go into making a patch of dirt in UE4? I only need a patch, that fades into transparent, So that it serves as a ground for my sword prop (which is stuck to the ground)

[grim ore]

oh, so not just positive but limiting the values

[lunar hollow]

Yeah. I originally thought min and max would work, but that would only work if the box was perfectly straight.

[grim ore]

yep which is where I cant help past lol, my maths are 😦

[lunar hollow]

LOL YEP SAME

[bleak zodiac]

@grim ore saw your unreal tutorial on creating main menu 🙂

[grim ore]

@lunar hollowthe bummer part is there is random point in a box, I just dont now how you would rotate it

[drowsy snow]

If you're talking about mesh blending to landscape, generally runtime virtual texture is deployed.

[noble forge]

oh, i got some tutorials for that. I wanted to know if theres a way to create the dirt patch itself, kinda like an environment inside ue4. (I could model it and texture outside then just import but i wanted to explore the program itself)

[lunar hollow]

imma go find a math nerds discord and see if I get lucky

[grim ore]

oh.... @lunar hollow so this post has some info which... might make sense https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/lu5od/how_can_i_check_if_a_point_is_inside_a_nonaxis/

[drowsy snow]

I guess decals would be one way? But I don't prefer decals due to how finicky it is to get right.

[lunar hollow]

DANG YOU ARE GOOD

[prime willow]

Yeah matheww is scary good at unreal

i hope to eventually reach his level of expertises

[grim ore]

i thnk if you look for the math for point in non axis aligned box, or obb, you might get someone who has the actual math

[noble forge]

I was thinking about creating a landscape with the dirt texture and a transparent material and merge them both with vertex paint, maybe?

[drowsy snow]

I guess that could work, but I'd expct some seams.

[grim ore]

vertex paint would work if your resolution was high enough, but decal sounds like an easy solution if you just have a simple dirt texture, but if you have one why not make a custom texture with the dirt if its possible

or slap a mesh in there to simulate some chunky dirt and make it easy!

[drowsy snow]

He's one of the tutors at Unreal Online Learning after all ;)

[grim ore]

the scary part is im not even close to as skilled at UE4 as most of the others that work there

[prime willow]

o.o

[prime willow]

how close to the guys working there do i have to be to be able to finish and publish my game?

i honestly cant imagine being as well arounded about unreal as you are within the next year or two..

most of your solutions make me feel like im retarded for not seeing how clear it was xD

[drowsy snow]

Took me around 4 years for me to be decently knowledgeable with UE, so yeah.

[prime willow]

ive been doing this for nearly 3 years probably and i feel like i dont get anything at all xD

like im accidently just stumbling onto each step of my games progress lol

[drowsy snow]

Back then there wad not even Unreal Online Learning in the earlier days, so YouTube tutorials were all I got.
Though granted I did have some modding background, so I kinda knew reverse engineering stuff

[prime willow]

i mostly use youtube tutorials from unreal engine or other youtubers

to try and figure out why a function does what it does and how it tinkers

[peak oxide]

Thanks, is that what I did? Zero'ing out the values manually afterwards or is that something else?

[drowsy snow]

Yeah, just zeroing out the location vector, or clicking the teeny yellow sideways U-turn arrow beside the input fields.

[peak oxide]

Source is the UV it will use when making the lightmap - So I set it to the unwrapped channel 1 no overlaps in that - I don't understand why I'd generate on 1 uvmap but apply the mapping on a different channel - won't the mapping be screwed or will it transpose the uv coords between different maps - but again, why not generate and use the same flattened unwrap?

[peak oxide]

I'm putting everything at [0,0,0] too bad I can't just hold alt and drop it to the origin... I'm thinking that there is a way to do this.

[grim ore]

@peak oxidethe lightmap uv's are used for lightmapping only, so it doesmt mess up the texture mapping. its just for lightmap baking

and that section is only for auto generated ones. if you want you can make uv0 your texture map, then make uv1 your lightmap. both can be hand made in your DCC program and when you import just tell it not to generate a new lightmap uv and to use yours

[drowsy snow]

And I thought the method I mentioned was dead simple enough...

[grim ore]

@prime willowchances are you wont need to be near anyone, epic has started testing self publishing on the epic store and steam still allows it

[prime willow]

o.o

[grim ore]

if you want to cheat and do the 0,0,0 move your viewport to that point so you can see it then change your grid snapping to like 1000 lol

it should default to snapping to the only valid spot at 0,00

or roll up an editor utility to do that for you 🙂

[prime willow]

thats good i guess x3

@drowsy snow my ledge grab still broken lol

the issue only half went away

[drowsy snow]

Though self publishing also come at a huge risk as well.

[prime willow]

now i dont teleport all over the map during ledging or mantle

but i still wapr around after or mid ledge grabbing/mantle

[grim ore]

finding a publisher comes at a huge risk as well, theres no good answer 😦

well I mean, bank of grandma is always good!

[prime willow]

yeah i looked into publishing and im most likely going to do it myself the long hard way and hopefully build up genuine admiration and repitore wwth gamers

once my game is at a point that sharing it seems doable

[peak oxide]

I'll read some documentation etc - thanks!
https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/157427/source-lightmap-index-vs-destination-lightmap-inde.html

[drowsy snow]

wdym by wrapping around?

[prime willow]

you rmember the warping around that floops the camera around

that still happens but i no longer teleport around the map

[slow quest]

Can someone tell me where my hardware is lacking? I'm using UE 25.4 but the free pack i got off the market place has taken over 30 minutes to open (still waiting). Just wanna know if I should add to the build and what basically.

[prime willow]

CPU or gpu maybe?

[grim ore]

check your task manager, is it using near 100%?

loading projects is going to be 100% cpu/memory

[drowsy snow]

If something stuck, check the task manager.

[slow quest]

Alright

[drowsy snow]

I always have Task Manager open 24/7 lol

[slow quest]

But the specs seem alright? I know it's not the best build

[grim ore]

8/16 with 3.5ghz as the max. its "ok" but we dont know what pack you have,or if anything is causing issues with your shader compiles

you could also be running a 5400rpm spinner for a drive

[drowsy snow]

Well, guess you would have to find the one that affect the camera.

[prime willow]

my mesh makes the camera move

but my ledging is causing character to stutter terribly lol

[drowsy snow]

Do you see it in slomo?

[prime willow]

my ledge grab doesnt hold anymore and instantly translates into mantle or quick mantle

yes

[peak oxide]

It is, but I've moved so many things to the origin in different programs. I'll run some script:
'''
for o in selection do o.pos = [0,0,0]
'''
I've figure what the python version would be and how to hotkey it...

[drowsy snow]

I guess do yourself a favour and make an Editor Utility Widget.

BUT

Don't expect hotkey miracle.

[peak oxide]

Oh no? You can't set a shortcut key to a script?

[slow quest]

@grim ore Found the problem.

[drowsy snow]

Editor Utility Widget and Editor Python commands cannot be assigned to hotkeys.

At least not without some hardcore engine code modifications AFAIK, because the lists were hard defined in Editor Preferences.

[slow quest]

It's the GHz

[drowsy snow]

That's a good sign.

[slow quest]

Also means a trip to the store lol

[peak oxide]

Thanks for the heads up - I'll start by trying some very basic steps, print "Hello" then print selection.name and see if I can get that far.

[drowsy snow]

Coolio.
Though I'd prefer making blutility / Editor Utility Widgets, not only because it's easier to setup, but also I hate Python.

[grim ore]

well 3ghz on 16 threads isnt horrible, but we dont know what you are opening so it might not be enough. and its also the first time only that it would take this time

and there is a way to get shortcuts for editor utility widgets, someone has a plugin for it

[slow quest]

It's the Park Environment pack

[drowsy snow]

Also you could increase ShaderCompileWorker processes's priorities to High, to speed things up a bit.

[slow quest]

got it a while ago actually

I'll keep that in mind, but I'm assuming it has to open first to set those right?

[drowsy snow]

Basically when Shader compile happens. The process won't exist if there's no shader compilation needed.

[grim ore]

the park environment is heavy so yeah it could take some time. IF you go to processess and you see shader compiler worker running 16 times with high cpu use then your gonna have to wait

[slow quest]

Alright. I'll check it out

Thanks again

[tulip spire]

I wanna enable Deferred Shading on mobile
the Docs say :

is this how it should be

[peak oxide]

I know what you mean now, that lil 'undo to default' arrow. That's actually a great improvement from what I've been doing, smh, thanks.

[worldly hedge]

Guys, not sure if this the right place to ask, but is there something wrong with the FPS character controller in UE? The rotation pivot is infront of the player instead in the middle of the camera. Is this normal? It feels very strange to me

[chilly glade]

Hey all, I'm a fairly jaded unity dev planning to make a switch to unreal. Are UE4 and 5 similar enough that I can start learning in UE4 and then bring my skills to the full, stable ver of UE5 next year?

Or am I better off learning in early access UE5 despite the instability

[drowsy snow]

You'd better off stick with UE4 in the meantime. You don't need the fancy exclusive features UE5 has offer just to get started.

[chilly glade]

Gotcha, so I take it the layout & basic features are virtually identical between 4 and 5?

Like aside from certain graphics/nanite/lumen workflows, the way I build projects will still be fundamentally the same?

[drowsy snow]

Yeah, large part of the stuff that beginners will overcome would be the same across versions.

[modest trench]

Yes, they are almost identical feature wise

Ue5 has new features (with more on the way) but the fundamentals are pretty much the same

[chilly glade]

Excellent, thanks for the advice

[modest trench]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-US/Basics/UnrealEngineForUnityDevs/
https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/onlinelearning-courses/making-the-switch-from-unity-to-unreal-engine?sessionInvalidated=true

[chilly glade]

Oooh, tyvm

[mint raptor]

Why is this a thing and how did I do this? https://gyazo.com/b687bcc5230f95cf7648542856b11e46

Child not moving with parent

[golden niche]

There's no way around this Afaik, the rotation pivot is alwaysat the middle of the character

I would put the camera in the middle instead of the character mesh

[spare kernel]

@mint raptor did you change its location or make it static?

http://thegames.dev/snaps/Discord_SoexpO7YE9.png

you set it Absolute Location

[runic fern]

Hello guys how can i make the 3d widget block the light ?
because its not too much clear when spawn it in world

[worldly hedge]

Yep, i moved the camera and it works much better now. I just wonder why they set it up like that for the first place

[golden niche]

Because you are rotating the character not the camera

[hollow magnet]

Hii

What do you think about Unreal Engine

[exotic thicket]

What kind of answer do you expect from a community focused on UE? :D

[amber shuttle]

ask in unity discord to get a honest review 😄

[plush yew]

hey

thats why i said ue4 was a bad idea !

wrong scal and distance

[raven estuary]

Does anyone know a good way to do wires other then just bringing in static meshes from something like blender?

[amber shuttle]

cable component?

if you manage to do collisions properly

[raven estuary]

What is cable component? Im making an artistic render so im not too worried about collisions

[amber shuttle]

i saw a perfect plugin, or was it just asset, just perfect for you

[neon magnet]

I think I'm the only one who really doesn't like these 'remastered' GTAs coming

[raven estuary]

Oh am i dumb is this a plugin built in

[amber shuttle]

this one is withough plugins

but idk its not perfect

[raven estuary]

Awesome thank you

[keen sierra]

very stupid question but i hvaent been able to fix this with any solutions i found, but i wanted to fix this extreme glossiness in my project

im entirely new to unreal but i think thats obvious haha

[raven estuary]

Off the top of my head (also noob so i may be totally wrong) but i think its your materials

[keen sierra]

im aware its the materials just unsure what rhe issue is?

one of the textures for reference

ive tried some of the solutions (linear color, turn of srgb, etc) but that doesnt work it just waters down the color

but keeps it just as shiny

[raven estuary]

Ummmmm i think you need to flip your roughness it looks like its supposed to be 100% rough (due to the black) but its reading it as 100% gloss

[keen sierra]

ah yeah i vaguely read smthn abt unreal swapping that around or something?

how would i do that if you dont mind me asking?

[raven estuary]

Now that is over my paygrade

Im not sure

[amber shuttle]

do you know about material instance?

[keen sierra]

ah alright, thanks anyway:)

and i dont think i do no

my school isnt too great so we are mostly teaching ourselves rn

[amber shuttle]

thats my material

[keen sierra]

oh wow

[amber shuttle]

and yea your problem is in roughness

atleast do that

[keen sierra]

id guessed so as well, but was not sure how to fix it

[raven estuary]

So thats like a master material

[amber shuttle]

lower the roughness abit

multiply it by 0.5 or smth

[raven estuary]

Basically what you do is use the master and then customize it from there

[keen sierra]

alright thanks i'll try that!!:)

[raven estuary]

So to explain this picture to my best knowledge whats happening with those nodes is the white is pure rough or gloss and then that going into the multiply which is affected by the roughness param giving you a roughness slider essentially

[amber shuttle]

not a slider but yea

[raven estuary]

Yeah its a 0 to 1 sorry

[amber shuttle]

that my material instance

[keen sierra]

i cant find the roughness parem however?

[amber shuttle]

no you can do over 9000 if you want

[raven estuary]

Jesus Christ haha

[amber shuttle]

thats the material instance

[raven estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-vegeta-crush-scouter-over9000-gif-4896810

[raven estuary]

You have to make it

[amber shuttle]

everyting that you set as a parameter in master material

you can change in mat instance

[raven estuary]

So take your roughness put it into a multiply and then create a param name it roughness

[amber shuttle]

yea right click it

[keen sierra]

yeah id guessed so but was moreso unsure which param?

ah wait

[amber shuttle]

there will be an option

then go to your material in content browser

right click it

create material instance

then assign that material instance to your mesh or whatever

open it and tweak

[raven estuary]

Is there a place to find a mastermaterial

[amber shuttle]

you make it yourself

if it has mat instances

[keen sierra]

ok sorry if im missing smthn rn

[amber shuttle]

its automaticly master

[keen sierra]

but how did you get that second param again?

[amber shuttle]

hold "1"

and click somwhere

you get "0" node

[keen sierra]

oh yeah!

[amber shuttle]

right click it

and make to param

[keen sierra]

yep

[amber shuttle]

now make mat instance

from that material

[raven estuary]

Sorry i meant was there a lazy persons master material that i can download but i can just not be lazy and make one

[keen sierra]

yp got that

[amber shuttle]

assign mat instance to your mesh

open mat instance

change properties

and watch it in real time

😄

[keen sierra]

thank you give me a second!!:)

i do think ive messed up along the way since mine is just blank

[manic urchin]

evening gentlemen, i want to ask about repnotify, what is that exacly? how its work? and in what case we use it

[raven estuary]

Screenshot

[keen sierra]

nvm nvm got it

i forgot to save TGBFRHDEJKSWL

embarrassing

AYEEE it worked tysm

no more slippery bed

[amber shuttle]

more advanced shit would be to assign that master material to ALL of your meshes

because you can make texture a parameter too

then all of your meshes will have same roughness if you want to

[keen sierra]

oh thatd be cool to learn! though its not too much work to do this rn i think

im rushing a bit cause i have to put this project up haha

god this was really great help i couldnt fid the solution anywhere

[reef lotus]

anyone have reccomendations for promiting/advertising a steam game?

[warm salmon]

Tried Google ads before?

[reef lotus]

nope

I'll take a look at it

[warm salmon]

Yep

[manic urchin]

try to post it on all of ur gaming community in discord or social media

[drowsy snow]

Or "bribe" some influencers that mainly plays indie games

[reef lotus]

yeah I contacted a few youtubers they all asked me for money, regardless if they liked the look of the game or not

i guess it's fair tho they have time constraints

just like anybody else

[drowsy snow]

Of course they would. They had to spend some time playing, recording, reacting to the game, editing the video, and stuff.

Just reduce the global time dilation in BP, I guess?

[reef lotus]

yeah i get that but it just seemed like they would pretend to like the game if I paid them to do it, idk it gave me a bit of a bad vibe

[drowsy snow]

If you want a prebaked fluid sim, then alembic cache data ought to do it.
Or you may use niagara and create 2D metaball of sort.

[obsidian nimbus]

@reef lotus this is kind of the whole point of commercials

a lot of pro sporters only pretend to drink that crappy redbull/ monster

[reef lotus]

well yeah but isn't that kind of setting a bad precedent?

idk

like if all of society is dishonest does that mean its ok to be dishonest

whatever im a weirdo idealist

[stable path]

I mean, I don't see anything dishonest in them asking for money

That's why they started the channel in the first place

[reef lotus]

i dont eiher, I just don't want to pay someone who isn't actually interested in the game

[stable path]

You're looking at the Youtubers as your customers

They aren't

They're essentially a marketing tool

The people who will watch those youtubers play your game are your potential customers

If many people watch your game, some of them are bound to get interested

[reef lotus]

yeah i understand that, idk 1 guy asked me for 1000$ for a short mention

it's just like it sucks that my game can't succeed on it's merit, i have to bribe someone to play it

[obsidian nimbus]

i read a post with stats from some1 that spend 500$ on a few diffrent marketing campains

[drowsy snow]

Advertisement cost can be more expensive than that.

[reef lotus]

yes im aware

[obsidian nimbus]

turnout out he was gettin pretty good results from adult sites when his game wasnt that at all

facebook was getting verry few hits from the money spend

[drowsy snow]

I mean, in many cases, more than 50% of AAA games's budget don't even go to development cost, but on marketing.

[reef lotus]

i know

that's kind of nuts to me, but i guess it's just how the market plays out

[stable path]

Yeah, It sucks. But unfortunately that's how it is

[reef lotus]

ye

[obsidian nimbus]

AAA spend their entire marketin budged for preorders cuz they know their game wil get burned to the ground on release 😛

[stable path]

I'm pretty sure there are a few games which were good but didn't earn well because nobody knew about them

[obsidian nimbus]

pre release date is where most sales are and those sell for full price

[reef lotus]

i just released a game and the only major complain is that there aren't enough people playing it

so i'm trying to find someway to get it out to a lot of people

[obsidian nimbus]

no use to run a campain to get ppl to pick it up from the bargain bin when part 6 is about to release in a few months

ow its MP with too few ppl?

[reef lotus]

yeah, i made the tough decision of going pay 2 play for right now

[keen sierra]

stupid question but, how do i export a webgl?

[reef lotus]

transition to f2p in a few months

[obsidian nimbus]

if its MP you want ppl to tell their friends anything that gets them to do that

[reef lotus]

yeah we've been doing tik tok some, but we had a spike on it before release and the hype died down cuz it still wasn't released

but it got like 2 million views on the tag

[obsidian nimbus]

dunno how effective friend referral bonusses are

[reef lotus]

i got a bunch of emails for steam curators to review it and some companies to promote it

but idk if it's a legit method or not

like it seems kind of sketchy they emails

[obsidian nimbus]

so what game is it?

[reef lotus]

it's called Pro Soccer Online on steam

[obsidian nimbus]

ahh looks kinda fun, and congrats on the release

[reef lotus]

thanks

[obsidian nimbus]

ur target audience is ppkl that like soccer but hate EA

[reef lotus]

lol yeah but fifa players don't like it

fifa players mostly like the ultimate team mode

and this doesn't offer anything like that

[obsidian nimbus]

well a lot of ppl hate ultimate team cuz its pay to win

[reef lotus]

yeah that's why i made the game really

i saw a hole in the market

but yeah getting a lot of people to play it is hard

anytime I try to share it, i give off salesman vibes and people get turned off

[drowsy snow]

You can't. Unreal Engine already stopped supporting HTML5 native as a platform, instead you get Pixel Streaming.

The older versions used to have HTML5 export, but they're based on old Emscripten web assembler, and they're unreliable as heck,

It's that unreliable that Epic just gave up and have Pixel Streaming (basically the same as cloud gaming) as an alternative to HTML5 export.

[keen sierra]

ah i need to be able to upload my game on my portfolio, preferably playable, is there any way to do that?

[drowsy snow]

Why not a YouTube link for preview and download link for the Windows excutable?

[keen sierra]

cause its for my portfolio, so people arent gonna take the time to go to youtube, then download and only then be able to play it

[drowsy snow]

Nah, often times YouTube video of the gameplay is enough to convince recruiters. The real deal would be in the interview where you'd have to basically do a game jam, according to their requests.

[keen sierra]

its partially cause i myself kinda suck at the gameplay so the video guaranteed isnt going to turn out well haha

its pretty minor, and a full game but moreso being able to walk around the environment yourself so thats kinda ruined if i cant host it

[drowsy snow]

You could ask your gamer friend to record it. Not the end of the world.

[keen sierra]

but i found a video about pixel streaming that could possibly host it

yeah no not the end, but still very frustrating nonetheless haha

[drowsy snow]

FWIW, Pixel Streaming is mainly for a functional product, not portfolios. You have to somehow host the application 24/7.

[keen sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnNenOajk5U&ab_channel=Obvioos

this seems to work fine?

[drowsy snow]

Again, Pixel Streaming is practically do-it-yourself cloud gaming. Unreal will provide some comms protocol, but not the server.

[drowsy snow]

This.

[keen sierra]

oh no i know, but that video seems to have a host where i can put the game up as well

i'll give it a try and if its a bust, i'll see if someone can do a couple or test runs for me

[plush yew]

can someone give me a dummy simple yes or no, if im using raytraced reflections do i need reflection captures

[drowsy snow]

No.

[plush yew]

thanks

[exotic thicket]

think you need some beefy HW to run the pixel streaming thing

pretty expensive at least on EC2, I did some testing for fun lol

although I guess everything is relative, so depends on what you need it for :P

[plush yew]

is there a way to use a skylight without lighting interiors that have no lights

im using rtxgi

but still have the skylight going through roofs

[trim mantle]

I think skylight is to light everything

Especially since it does not have direction xD

[plush yew]

nope

skylight is needed even when using raytraced lighting for certain things

a good example is water reflections and lod things

i know you CAN use skylight without it brightening interiors i just dont remember how I did it

iirc you can set a skylight to raytracing

theres some console commands for this but i dont remember how to activate these

can i make mesh move like it's a grass or tree? like make door shake like a tree or a book shelve, window etc... like distort the object, use wind force on it etc..

changing shape of it and distorting the visuals

but in the easiest way possible without going too deep into

mhm

more like when it's moving on it's own

like when tree is shaking

back and forth

more of a horror vibe

a bit of slow motion

and weird distortion to it

kinda psychedelic

when it all blurs

and goes weird

something in style of layers of fear

or this thing moving left and right

just like the pendulum inside of it

[ashen mantle]

hi guys. I can't get my character movement component to work past Silly Speed
I set Max Speed 100... it walks
500-1000 it runs
5000+ it... doesn't seem to do anything else but run, not faster.
10000ish?... it almost freezes.

this is driven by an AI controller btw

so it looks like the AI needs so much time to accelerate... for proper speed... that it cannot even start

I messed with accel too

I set accel to 10000 and max walk speed 10000

it barely moves

oh and the AI movement is just this

[keen sierra]

sorry to be a bother but i dont usually use unreal and

does anyone have a fucking clue whats going on

[plush yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8JrVtnpdCg&ab_channel=CharlatanWonder

37-45 sec

that effect

seems like the whole game just uses visual distortion at those horror times and not the room design, material change itself so much

that's why it all goes back to normal in game so fast

[mint raptor]

I actually was not aware of that behavior, thanks

[ashen mantle]

anywya, nvm about my question, found the issue. breaking deceleration set to high values

[plush yew]

thx

now I need to figure how to make blueprints for that

when you walk in box trigger the settings of material change

what's the name of blueprint for that?

[hollow moat]

My capsule is rotating down instead of my camera on my character how can I fix this?

This is when I look up and down

[spare kernel]

show code

[hollow moat]

@spare kernel

InputComponent->BindAxis(LookXAxis, this, &APlayerController::AddYawInput);
InputComponent->BindAxis(LookYAxis, this, &APlayerController::AddPitchInput);

This is the only looking code really, the rest is handled by the character system in unreal

[spare kernel]

aight

did you by chance

tick Use Control Pitch

in yoru character bp?

http://thegames.dev/snaps/UE4Editor-Win64-DebugGame_G9SwXNVfb1.png

[hollow moat]

Yup 😦

Fixed thanks

I don't remember checking that

[iron frigate]

hi guys, any leads on baking out models from blender with animated modifier into unreal?

[drowsy snow]

Shape Keys/Morph Target would be your best bet, though the mesh has to be skeletal/weighted to armature (at least have one bone)

[plush yew]

dumb question, how does one attach a widget to a VR controller, make it appear on button Y press, and make widget interact with line trace channel from right controller? lol

[scenic fox]

how can i load level with specific gamemode?

im really curious on how this is possible

[warm salmon]

Wot exactly do u want to do?

[scenic fox]

Load a game with a selected gamemode

like

For example i want a map with two different game modes but i don't want to duplicate the map and change the game mode

if it isn't possible that's fine too

[fallen stratus]

Hello stupid question, but is there a way to rotate an object relative to camera and not relative to axis?

in the editor

[grim ore]

@scenic foxyou would use a console command with a parameter to do it https://unrealpossibilities.blogspot.com/2020/09/unreal-engine-tutorial-setting-custom.html

[plush ibex]

does anyone know of a way of packaging a ue4 game to be playable on a website

in 4.26

[vocal flume]

Is it possible to switch smoothly between the character camera and a camera that belongs to a different BP?

[scenic fox]

omg thank you

[grim ore]

Set View Target with Blend @vocal flume

[vocal flume]

Thank you @grim ore

[autumn latch]

what is the difference between them?

and

local and not local

[sterile lichen]

1st is common, 2nd for split-screen use
https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.26/en-US/BlueprintAPI/UserInterface/Viewport/AddtoPlayerScreen/

[autumn latch]

split-screen, ow thanks to u

[sterile lichen]

most of it you can find in UE docs

about Players/ PlayerControllers/ Pawns etc

[tiny valley]

Whats the best way to make a morph target between two similar meshes but which have different polygon counts, like maybe a zbrush script which can shape mesh 1 into mesh 2 thanks

[near dirge]

Is there an optimal way of working with Unreal Engine remotely? I mean something better than Microsoft's Remote Desktop that has minimal image quality reduction and interfaces with the software as directly as possible.

(Similar to how one would export a display variable in Linux or something).

[mellow turret]

if my packaged game freezes, is there a way to get a log of the thing that caused it to freeze?

[daring cedar]

I saw in a tutorial the guy adding rock material here but I don't know how to do it

He just typed Rocks and the mountain texture changed

I just renamed my rock material to "Rock" and typed it in the none box and it didn't change

[uneven torrent]

Hi guys, I am currenty working on Oculus project using ES31 Vulkan shaders. I have the editor set to preview the level in ES31 while I am working on it and when attempting to do a simple level transition/load from main menu to game level the editor crashes with this error message - Assertion failed: !bShaderMapComplete [File:D:/Build/++UE4/Sync/Engine/Source/Runtime/Engine/Private/Materials/MaterialShared.cpp] [Line: 2584]. When previewing the level in standard SM5 the transition works fine?

[daring cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbj1qgPOl3E
4:24

Is he doing something different?

oh ok thanks

[dense knoll]

UE4 likes s to die whenever using DX12, mostly the e engine saying along the lines of "Driver Hung", I would switch to DX11 but sometimes the editor just t blinds me e by turning the scenes lighting up WAYY too much h

[autumn flame]

Sounds like Eye Adaptation / Auto Exposure

[daring cedar]

any idea why my rock material looks repeated like this?

Is there a way to make it look better or is it a bad material for it?

[autumn flame]

They will always repeat with no work done on them, simplest you could do for now is make them bigger if too small, can alleviate some of the repeating pattern by... having less

[obsidian nimbus]

UV tiling

[kindred iris]

Not sure what channel to put this in but is there a way to scale/rotate the collision area more precisely?

[gusty apex]

For such a simple object you could set 'use complex collision as simple, no?

[kindred iris]

Yeah I tried doing that, but I get this weird infinite falling glitch whenever walking on the mesh

I can record it rq it's hard to explain

[rancid jay]

Stupid question, if a struct's array is declared in header, how to make it visible in BP?
UPROPERTY(BlueprintReadWrite, EditAnywhere) does not show it in BP's variable list

[gusty apex]

There is a property for indicating that the player can walk on the mesh

[ocean sparrow]

aaaaaah

eso que eh

[kindred iris]

it's weird bc the complex collision was just working last night

[gusty apex]

@rancid jay bluprinttype in uproperty

[rancid jay]

already. Do i need to Promote as new variable and set it's variable type in BP too?

USTRUCT(BlueprintType)

i was expecting it to show up in BP's variable list

i guess it is not suppose to do that?

[gusty apex]

@rancid jay it should

[rancid jay]

it shows up in variable type's dropdown list

but not as "Set" Variable

[gusty apex]

@rancid jay what do you mean?
Can you make one?

[rancid jay]

i can

btw i am a noob C++, please assume i dont know anything

[wooden rock]

I am building a proof of tech FPS and I am trying to make a "true" first person char. I am following the UE4 docs for animation blends, which has you make the hip rifle blends. Question is (and I think I know the answer) whether I use just arms or whole person mesh, the other players (multiplay) will be shown as full meshes, so will I need blend animation for all 40+ positions? Blend for iron sights, blend for pistol, blend for pistol hip, blend for crouch walking and aiming, etc ??

[gusty apex]

@kindred iris I just had to delete a mesh because no matter what I did the collision wouldn't appear in game. Even though I could see it in the editor. Reloading the mesh didn't work either. In the end i had to import it again and suddenly everything was fine

[rancid jay]

https://imgur.com/a/iBj7JXM

i am talking about showing up in the list at "Variables"

it is not suppose to do that?

[gusty apex]

No

Not unless you make one

The variables are instances of the types

[rancid jay]

hmm.. i always thought declaring in C++ header automatically makes one

[gusty apex]

No

[rancid jay]

weird programming

[gusty apex]

Your c++ thing makes a type

You can now make instances of that type

[rancid jay]

i see

so, in order to make it show up in the list, only BP can do it?

in C++ has no such thing?

just curious

learning

[gusty apex]

Generally no.
But as you are a beginner I have to qualify that by saying there are some times when it does sort of happen like you thought

But not for those variables

[rancid jay]

i see.

strange one indeed with C++

[manic dew]

PLEASE some1 help

[rancid jay]

thanks btw!

[manic dew]

i accidentally hit launch on my project

and now its stuck

the entire thing

wht do i do

[rancid jay]

close and re-open

the safe way, is you launch standalone mode next time, so you close safely

[gusty apex]

@rancid jay unreal c++ takes a bit of getting used to.
It is NOT like regular c++, there are unreal conventions you have to stick to

[rancid jay]

or try press Esc see if it works

[rancid jay]

i see. I struggled on C++ repeatedly. I actually left long ago and now i am back at it again. Still hard to learn

you mean to say it is best to make the variable in BP? (after declaring the struct in C++ header)

[gusty apex]

@rancid jay no, it's like saying, if you are able to use c++ you don't need to worry as much about blueprints

Anything blueprints can do, c++ can do.

The reverse is not true however

[obsidian nimbus]

you can make the variable in c++ it wont show in that list but it wil show up in the search

[broken socket]

so i copy and pasted blueprints from 4.27 to 4.25 and compiled everything, no errors but it simply wont work

[obsidian nimbus]

variables in that list wont show up in c++ tho

[broken socket]

how do i fix this

[rancid jay]

i see.

my goal is to make it show up in the BP's variable list

[rancid jay]

^

[gusty apex]

For ANYTHING c++ to be visible in bp you have to add the macros UPROPERTY for variables, or UFUNCTION for functions

[rancid jay]

https://imgur.com/a/iBj7JXM

[gusty apex]

With the appropriate specifiers

[rancid jay]

this list in Variables

[obsidian nimbus]

well for the sake of organizing its a goal, but id let that idea go if i was u 😛

[rancid jay]

USTRUCT(BlueprintType)
then
UPROPERTY(BlueprintReadWrite, EditAnywhere) already

[rancid jay]

uh i see

[obsidian nimbus]

if this was in any way easy epic would have done it allready

[rancid jay]

i thought it would be nice to have the "SET" variable so i connect instead of making another 1

[gusty apex]

Set is not a variable

It's a function to set the value of a property

[obsidian nimbus]

uhhhh

[rancid jay]

but it shows up as a struct instead of array. (I think i fail programming at this one). Currently i "SET" the new variable as the actor's array

i mean struct indeed gives the array option

[gusty apex]

The reason you can't have variables from c++ in that bp list is simple:
The bp variables list is editable, and inherited variables are not. They belong to the parent class, and you can't delete them

[rancid jay]

I see. Thanks for the explanation

[obsidian nimbus]

you can change the value of parent variables

[gusty apex]

In bp code, yes, if they have been marked with the right uproprty specifiers

But they won't appear in that variable list

And technically those are NOT variables, they are properties

That's the distinction

[rancid jay]

my bad for calling it "SET" variable

[true ridge]

Is it possible to attach a component to an actor which doesn't inherit rotation? Have the location and scale affected by the parent actor, but not the rotation?

[gusty apex]

No bad. These are the terms you have to get used to @rancid jay

[obsidian nimbus]

well they are also variables 😛

[rancid jay]

what is the correct terms then?

property variable?

[obsidian nimbus]

doesnt matter

[gusty apex]

@obsidian nimbus that's part of the problem. The term variables is kinda different in relation to c++ vs bp

[rancid jay]

i mean it gives confusion when asking questions

[obsidian nimbus]

google wil like variable better

[gusty apex]

@rancid jay a c++ 'value' exposed to bp, is a property

You can't expose variables to bp

[true ridge]

Wow, that was an easy fix. Thank you!

[gusty apex]

Think of it this way, to get a property to show up in bp you mark it with UPROPERTY

There is no UVARIABLE. Thankfully

[rancid jay]

"UPROPERTY" makes sense now

[gusty apex]

Exactly

All hall epic!

[obsidian nimbus]

and you can still add a variable to BP 🙂

i mark this problem as solved

[gusty apex]

That's the thing I'm saying, unreal c++ isn't even 'normal' c++

Try to add an abstract class

You can't

[rancid jay]

the thing is, i am worried it might cause issue. Like somehow enum in BP, the C++ won't know about it

[gusty apex]

Unless you do it the epic way

[obsidian nimbus]

if u run into that u delete the BP enum and make a new1 in c++

[gusty apex]

@rancid jay do you have any programming experience in general before coming to unreal?

[rancid jay]

that's what i am trying to avoid

[rancid jay]

nope

[gaunt abyss]

You are reallyyyyy nitpicking unimportant details here 😐

[rancid jay]

i learned python and some randoms

[gusty apex]

@gaunt abyss not true. Trying to give a clear view of what is going on re bp and c++.

If someone thinks c++ variables are the same as bp variables, that's not going to help them

[gaunt abyss]

Also no such thing as "unreal C++“

Epic didn't invent a new language

[gusty apex]

Yes. They basically did@gaunt abyss

[gaunt abyss]

Nowhere close to being true

[obsidian nimbus]

lot of boilerplate

[gusty apex]

Then you can use 100% of the c++ language features?

NO YOU CAN'T

[gaunt abyss]

Yes you can

[obsidian nimbus]

yup

[gusty apex]

multiple inheritance? No

[gaunt abyss]

Yep

[gusty apex]

Abstract classes. No

[gaunt abyss]

Yep

[obsidian nimbus]

look at 3rd party stuff

[gusty apex]

Of course not, but that's not unreal code

[rotund scroll]

all code is unreal because all code is virtual 😔 epic owns us all

[gusty apex]

Your vanilla c++ code has to tak to unreal at some point. And in those places you have to tow the epic line and use their system

[sterile lichen]

why not?

you free to use regular c++ as long as you not in blueprint compatbility space

[gaunt abyss]

I mean if you really wanted you could write yourself what UHT automatically generates for you, it's C++, nothing special about it

[sterile lichen]

🔥

[gaunt abyss]

Would take you about a day for each class but still...

[obsidian nimbus]

ill just compile my shaders by hand now

[sterile lichen]

but that is a sigh you making bad architecture

[gusty apex]

I personally use my own sqlite c++ code and it's great. ... but there is always be stuff you need to do with unreal objects

[sterile lichen]

ok

not used to this keyboard yet

[gaunt abyss]

Don't forget to write your material graph in C++ as well, graphs, not hlsl

[sterile lichen]

why c++, just shader bytecode

[rotund scroll]

isnt this just the argument that you should write everything in binary

[sterile lichen]

just with butterfly input emacs

[dawn meteor]

Is it a known issue that eyelash grooms is not imported for some metahumans?
I am comparing to the sample project and those have the grooms in slots nicely, when I import mine, it simply isn't there for eyelashes
seems like import is not working correctly for some metas

[obsidian nimbus]

#metahumans

if u search there for eyelash something might pop up

[buoyant granite]

:clock2: PuffiestFish#4853 was muted for 1 minute.

[dawn meteor]

ty

[obsidian nimbus]

np

[gaunt abyss]

@plush yew Can you stop with random gifs and images, I muted you for a reason
Keep the memes and that stuff in #lounge and don't spam it

[plush yew]

mean

[drowsy snow]

Screw it, go back to your 486 assembler.

[muted imp]

anyone know how to convert a Blueprint character to a mesh? I got a character but I just want the mesh so I can put it into mixamo and get animations

[drowsy snow]

Just find the skeletal mesh and export it.

[muted imp]

@drowsy snow When I open the bp character I see the mesh but i cant export it. The skeletal mesh isnt there in the content browser

[grim ore]

you want to turn the skeletal mesh into a static mesh?

or you need like other stuff attached to it

[muted imp]

@grim ore I just need to export it to mixamo so I can use animations with it in sequencer

[grim ore]

then it needs to be a skeletal mesh, not static mesh

[muted imp]

right now its a bp char. with a camera attached to it and everything idk how to export a skeletal mesh

[grim ore]

you need to find the source asset and then you can export it out

[muted imp]

@grim ore there isnt a skeletal mesh already though. Its not there in the asset pack folder. The only skeletal mesh is another soldier. Every piece of the soldier is modular and can be switched

[drowsy snow]

In your character BP's skelmesh component:

[grim ore]

^^

[muted imp]

k let me take a look..

ue5 still got to load up give me a sec. I believe the skeletal mesh is a completely different soldier tho. does it matter? Its a modular pack so the only skeletal mesh that they gave me has a different outfit and gear on

[grim ore]

you would have to see how its designed. it sounds like perhaps its one skeletal mesh with a different material on it

if its modular then its separate meshes and at that point getting that into mixamo is going to be an issue

[sturdy smelt]

i readed that somewhere but i also want wo know this like no Skylight in interiors..

[drowsy snow]

If the skeleton adheres to UE4 standard (no, UE5 is no different), you'd only need the Mannequin for reference, as you can hard retarget and duplicate the anims for the modular characters's skeleton

[muted imp]

its using ue4 mannequin, so i just export the skeletal mesh from mixamo?

[drowsy snow]

Yes, that should be enough, and don't use Mixamo's auto rigger.

[muted imp]

this is the only complete soldier

Its got a different skin than I want but is it ok? @drowsy snow

[drowsy snow]

the skeleton it tied to matters more.

If it's the same skeleton, then should be less hard retarget work

[muted imp]

@drowsy snow

export the mannequin?

[sterile lichen]

😄

[ruby folio]

Please tell me im not the only one who sits waiting for ages to compile 2000+ shaders before being able to do any work

[valid fog]

QUestion: How do I lock an object so I cannot accidentally move it without unlocking it?

[sterile lichen]

make a coffie, open twitch or yt and wait.

[grim ore]

I had ~15k earlier when compiling the latest 5.0 branch lol, so no you arent the only one

[sterile lichen]

compiling 15-20k shaders of big project

a lot of free time

[grim ore]

incentive to buy a faster cpu 🙂

[valid fog]

Nvm found out how

[ruby folio]

@sterile lichen @grim ore 2000+ on a blank new project!

[grim ore]

@muted impit looks like by being modular its not really modular and the basic skeleton with the other parts attached. you might want to see how the characters are "pieced" together in the blueprint. 1 SKM with socketed addons or multiple SKM's linked together. With that said, if the default manny skeleton is being used you should be good to just target the animations to that one yes

[manic owl]

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/onlinelearning-courses

@hallow shell @dusky scarab

[prime willow]

@grim ore do you have 30 seconds to point me in the right direction?

ive been troubleshooting this function for 2 weeks now xD

[grim ore]

if its related to the ledge grabby system, probably not. I've seen the issues but have no real ideas 😦

[prime willow]

yeah its definitely that lmao

https://gyazo.com/788d08dbfe74aefd4ba3a92f0c378ba5

no idea why this a constant ;-;

[neon bough]

because you screwed up big

the movement system is so complex, it's hard to assist there

[prime willow]

i hope not

lol

welp yeah

[neon bough]

that's the point where you have to get independent

lil'snowie has to become a dev

[prime willow]

yeah ive really been beating my hea dinto the wall here no clue where its wrong after dismantling and re doin git from scratch over and over lol

yeah custom code is the worst XD

its amazing but can fluff up in a thousand ways adsfghj

[neon bough]

trust me, i'm an idiot too, and i spent weeks on Foot IK... but in the end i got it working and i have the feeling that i understand it

[prime willow]

that happened to me too

learned the painful way to disable all ik stuff related to twist bones

Daz iks and twist bones are fight each other violently

[ruby folio]

Can I justify a new rig and still use a GTX1070

[prime willow]

hopefully

[neon bough]

probably

1070 isn't that bad

[ruby folio]

Its not no.
But I'm thinking, get myself a new rig, give the missus this one

Compile MoAR shad0rz

[grim ore]

Ooof.. don't name your project the same name as a plugin you use in your project lol. It runs fine, just wont package

[plush yew]

do you know you can use this? https://github.com/dyanikoglu/ALS-Community

[prime willow]

no no i dont touch als its way to complicated for what i want to do and its super unfinished

[spare kernel]

ALS is really bad :/

i dislike its concepts

[prime willow]

it ha ssome nice stuff but its really messy and daz models fight violently against daz models

or you bet i would of considered it

[spare kernel]

and daz models... eek

[plush yew]

do some weight paint and create yours

[prime willow]

lemme alone kaos they do more than i need for the job i have in mind D:

[spare kernel]

hehe

[prime willow]

https://tenor.com/view/akame-crying-akame-cry-akame-cry-anime-gif-21400744

[spare kernel]

only messing, i am no 3d modeler, couldn't even make a cube...

[plush yew]

does anyone knows what is the purpose of having to re-open every time you make a bone modification inside UE animation editor?

i mean, if i rotate some bone, playing some other animation keeps what i modified

more a curiosity of why this workflow exists;

does it comes from maya or other modelling tool that is older than blender 2.8?

[neon bough]

however ALS is a good way to learn about motion systems

because you have to understand it and redo it from scratch if you want something that isn't exactly ALS 😄

[prime willow]

very true o.o

[prime willow]

its ok i know i know much luff ❤️

[drowsy snow]

'Sup.

[drowsy snow]

I'd rather do in-editor animating with Control Rig.

Though I never did any sort of anim modifications in the persona editor, so...

[prime willow]

hiiiiiii

[drowsy snow]

Still struggling with the ledge thingie?

[dire parcel]

does the unreal learning hub offer courses on how to add weapons and stuff to the character or I’ll have to search somewhere else for that?

[prime willow]

yush :3

its mechanical

[dire parcel]

I’ve been learning the level blockout and stuff and animation will be today

[prime willow]

not animation

the fucntional

error wise

i disconnected any animations and it still stutters during the raising and lowering

so closer to fix than before

[drowsy snow]

Well, your system is kinda complex and wasn't well managed :<
At least ALS has some clear notes that I can understand.

[prime willow]

ive been making notes!

granted im going to try a completely different ledge grab system and see what happens lol

[drowsy snow]

Yeah, except that is fully C++ version of ALS

I praise C++ for its performance, but holy shit, the BP version is already so difficult to get right across all characters, let alone the C++ version.

[plush yew]

but they expose the core with bp there

[drowsy snow]

Not to mention quadruped is literally got defenestration treatment

And I need muh dragons to be as good as the bipeds goddamnit

[drowsy snow]

Yeah nah, I already put that repo as super last resort, if I can't recreate my own system that put quadrupeds into account.

Cats and dragons need the same love as humans, you know.

[plush yew]

guinea pigs maybe

cats eat

meat

all i could find on internet if reference of them walking

but a turn in place feels hard

[drowsy snow]

I guess you didn't know you can play as a cat in GTA 5.

[plush yew]

nah

hm, are the animations there good?

[drowsy snow]

Pretty decent, though I'm sure Stray will "defenestrate" GTA 5's out of the window.

[dire parcel]

ALS was very hard for me to learn

That’s basically the first thing I tried to do without Tutorials or anything

[drowsy snow]

That's a grave mistake, though back then ALS was paid, so I managed to avoid diving into it too early.

[dire parcel]

yup a terrible mistake almost made me quit until somebody had to tell me that is was difficult, even for some people who know how to use bps and stuff

so I stayed away from it I jsut like that it had the animations on the character already, but now imma just learn it myself and start with the UE4 mannequin and go from there

[prime willow]

is there a way to change the system in unreal engine

so that things are calculated based on mesh size and shape instead of capsule size and shape? @drowsy snow

or is it possible to bend the capsule to take the mesh shape?

[drowsy snow]

No.
Even AAA games still use capsule based characters.

[prime willow]

:/ gay

can i make the capsule change size and shape based on meshes at least

[drowsy snow]

Size, yes. But not sure what you mean by "shape".

[prime willow]

like can i make it be as small as the mesh

and if the mesh changes shape or size itll expand or shrink with it?

[bright sigil]

are you not talking about object bounds?

[prime willow]

well i noticed that my meshes position and stance and all is being completely ignored and only the capsule is being taken into account

so i can stand in mid air

or cant crouch as low as id like or stand at certain heights

or the calculations for when stuff happens ignores mesh positions and uses the capsules angle

[bright sigil]

so you want complex collision ie per-poly collision?

[prime willow]

that kind of thing

where the mesh is being taken into acount for calculations instead of where the capsule is

[bright sigil]

and this mesh is a character i assume?

[prime willow]

i plan on having teen characters but the capsule doesnt change with my morph target

yes

https://gyazo.com/35f2fff37a4af9fe95897804d6b2b25b

^ this is what it looks like atm

[bright sigil]

mm, i dont think mesh changes (vertex offsets) update collision unless that's changed

[prime willow]

yup

thats what im saying

i dont think capsule changes with my mesh and i want to somehow fix if possible xD

[bright sigil]

you'd need to define the capsule dimension based on the skeletal mesh type you are using

[prime willow]

so i can tie the mesh to the capsules size

o-o

[bright sigil]

well

you say that if it is of type adult, then the dimensions are as such

maybe controlled with an enum

does your character change in age or sometihng?

thinking on it, a dictionary could work name|dimensions

[prime willow]

well the morph target will shrink the character to child size and change the body shape and face structure too

id like the capsule to adjust with it long term

[bright sigil]

sounds like you have logic to decide when the morph target changes

you would just add the dimensions differences there

[prime willow]

ah okie

okie that makes sense

[drowsy snow]

Per poly collision for skelmeshes is going to be stupid expensive anyway.

[prime willow]

o-o

[bright sigil]

had no clue what they were after, and was before i knew it was a character

[prime willow]

thank you thank you

ill go back to working on my ledge system now

[bright sigil]

yeah, sounds like you're just changing the capsule

gl

[prime willow]

pretty much that

or if possible calculate based on the mesh instead xD

[bright sigil]

well now...

we're talking about the physics asset

[prime willow]

ah

thank you ill look into it ❤️

[dire parcel]

very curious, so i am watching "the first hour with animation" in the unreal learning hub. I don't have my character model made yet so if I use the UE4 mannequin, and i get my 3D model done how does that work? i would have to do the same process i did with the default character with my new one?

so like the idle, walking/running animations and stuff like that.

[neon bough]

you can retarget animations to another skeleton/mesh. How well that works depends on your skeleton/mesh