ue4-general

[tawdry python]

the game I'm working on right now (in Unty tho) starts struggling with about 200k tris

[desert verge]

i think i had a unity project with well over a million lol

i'm coming from unity, been learning that for a year1

🙂

[sterile tulip]

Where can I download the new UE5 project demo

[ornate forge]

The C++ project code in UE5 is very similar to UE4

[sterile tulip]

Thanks very much 🙂 😊

[ornate forge]

MetaHuman is still not available for me 😦

[wet pond]

Is there like a specific term for like when your weapon doesn’t move synchronously with your screen when you turn, like it glides towards the direction youre facing when you turn

[trim bough]

?????

[inner cloak]

Any of you streaming UE5 projects ?

[half panther]

is learn.unrealengine.com also down for you?

[twilit hill]

world composition < - > world partition

[sterile tulip]

What are the pc specs for the sample project? 🙂

Ok the minimum pc requirements are 8 GB of VRAM and 32 GB of system RAM. NVIDIA GTX 1080.

100GB of Space 😄

[rare agate]

Official documentation for 5.

[runic iron]

I actually don't understand the difference so far 😄

[rare agate]

The docs are online, and they list limitations.

[sterile tulip]

Can you send me the link ? @rare agate

[rare agate]

Give me a few..

[half panther]

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/unreal-engine-5

scroll down

its in the faq

[warm hornet]

Anyone have Launcher crash on launch? How did you resolve?

[rare agate]

Thanks for hitting that. I jumped on mobile.

The exact doc link is:
https://docs.unrealengine.com/5.0/en-US/

[twilit hill]

quixel assets are nice and all but ... drag and drop a rock into your game and bang, 15gb bigger

[sterile tulip]

Thank you very much ❤️ 😊 😊 ☺️

The nice thing is, is now that its 1 file per asset @twilit hill

[rare agate]

Drag and drop many, many rocks, and it's even better. 🙃

[fringe rivet]

UE5 Hooray

[sterile tulip]

You dont need to download a whole pack of 30 assets now to get a specific asset or material anymore

[gray kindle]

does nanite work with foliage?

[rare agate]

Sorta

It doesn't like the overdraw.

And no wind effects either.

[twilit hill]

oof

[gray kindle]

but for stills it could be decent

[rare agate]

They state in the docs to use it for the trunk and branches.

[twilit hill]

my trunk and branches also move

[rare agate]

Not anymore. 😆

[twilit hill]

id assume its usefull for the base layer of the map

go wild, spam assets

[rare agate]

Aye. Also, the file size of a 1 mil mesh is smaller than a 4K texture normal.

[sterile tulip]

Its usefull for anything not moving probably

[rare agate]

Things can move, just not deform.

[sterile tulip]

Its fine, you can have nanite for anything still and for the foliage you can have lods probably

[twilit hill]

yeah good to know

ive already hyper-optimized my foliage anyway

[sterile tulip]

The project files are gonna get big 😄

With nanite

[tacit moon]

I'm wanting to make a game that is built mostly around clouds and strong cloud esthetics. Is Unreal the best choice over Unity?

[sterile tulip]

There is a plugin for volumetric clouds in UE4 I believe

[tacit moon]

The youtube videos of the built in cloud tools seem superior to any plugins I've found for Unity.

But I've been toying with a raytracing alogrithm of my own, but it is ridiculously slow.

[sterile tulip]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APU59eYA7E

[twilit hill]

volumetric coulds are heavy on performance tho

[feral sierra]

no ancient giant fight scene unfortunately

[void barn]

anyone having this issue? i choose my external HDD with 2TB but somehow it keeps creating file at my c drive

[twilit hill]

gotcha

[fierce tulip]

@void barn
Under Settings in the Launcher
You may need to edit your vault cache location

[sterile tulip]

Have they increased the max. map size for multiplayer in UE5?

[twilit hill]

wdym

[runic iron]

Try this #ue5-general message

[twilit hill]

you could have an endless world with world composition

ages ago

[sterile tulip]

Thats for singleplayer projects

[runic iron]

Or this #ue5-general message

[twilit hill]

world composition is the map, that has nothing to do with multiplayer

do you just mean connected players?

[void barn]

tq

its working

[sterile tulip]

I have read that it doesnt work and if you are doing multiplayer projects 20x20km is the highest you can make

[tacit moon]

@sterile tulip That looks incredible. Think there's anyway that could run on high end mobile devices?

Is raytracing even possible on mobile with any fidelity?

[twilit hill]

well you have read the limitations of what i assume is a single map segment, ... without world composition?

i did a 32x32km map by splitting it up

and replication definitely works outside of 20x20km bounds

[sterile tulip]

for mobile devices you might want to add some cloud shaped static meshed and make them move in the sky @tacit moon

No world composition doesnt work for multiplayer because of how the position is calculated

[tacit moon]

@sterile tulip The game doesn't work without high fidelity clouds.

[sterile tulip]

In singleplayer the position always recalculates meaning you can go anywhere

but if more players start to join the calculations of the position of the player doesnt recalculate anymore

[twilit hill]

ive never heard of anything like that

got a link?

[sterile tulip]

yea its in the unreal engine forums

https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/maximum-multiplayer-map-size-tests/33564/6

[glad loom]

Hello, so with ue5 early access released, is ue4 going to get updates until they fully release it and then stop the updates for ue4 and start them for ue5?

[sterile tulip]

you can read into what world composition does and that it reaches its unlimited map sizes by recalculating the player position once it moves but that it doesnt work when there are more players

I´ve had this researched a while back ago

[twilit hill]

that is a post from 6 years ago, weird

i didnt encounter any precision problems

[sterile tulip]

did you try this out with multiplayer having bigger map sized than 20x20km? @twilit hill

[twilit hill]

yes

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.26/en-US/BuildingWorlds/LevelStreaming/WorldBrowser/#bigworldsandmultiplayer

However if you disable world origin, shifting you can run a tiled world with a dedicated server. Dedicated servers will load all distance dependent levels, and each connected client will work as usual loading only level that satisfy streaming distance settings. A server holds a list of visible levels for each client and filters Actor replication by this list.

[past stag]

ooh. I have been waiting for this. ue5

[sterile tulip]

The link you sent is saying origin shifting is not supported in multiplayer

[past stag]

doesn't ue5 have double precision?

and is it a setting?

[twilit hill]

i dunno, it worked on a 32x32km mapset of mine which were just imported plain heightmaps (grey)

i could load about half before the engine crashed

world partition might be worth a look ... mhhh

[sterile tulip]

hmm I dont know, maybe there are some workarounds but I dont know about them

[past stag]

I think its pretty good time to learn unreal engine now that the 5 is out on EA

[tacit moon]

@sterile tulip Why don't people just rebase to the origin?

[past stag]

thats not going to work in multiplayer unless you implement your own solution

[ornate forge]

The default vehicle physics in Unreal 5 seems to be much better

The car no longer flips on every bump

[past stag]

Has ue5 got rid of physX?

atleast from what I understood, they now have their own chaos physics because they need the 64 bit floating point support

which physx doesnt support

when the ue5 is fully released it might be time for me to do another compilation of it with clang

[chrome beacon]

Hello everybody. I wonder if I can ask some suggestion here about some hardware {hard drive in this case} to get in order to speed up the use of the engine and my workflow

[past stag]

ssd

[hardy cedar]

is it just me or is the website hugged to death due to UE5 EA? Can't login to the learning hub in neither Chrome nor Firefox 🤔

[chrome beacon]

I know in general what would be best but I'm on a tight budget and choosing models is quite hard... I spent the last 2 days trying to figure out what to get

[past stag]

yeah https://learn.unrealengine.com seems to be down

not completely down but lagging

[ornate forge]

Samsung SSDs are the best

[tawdry python]

my condolences

[past stag]

kingston ssds are cheap

[hardy cedar]

Ah yes, now I'm beginning to get 500er. That's a clear sign after 10min of trying to login in vain. 👍

[past stag]

240gb 37€ where I live

[karmic shard]

It's taking so long to "verify" rn

[rough knoll]

hmm

i can't seem to find tessellation in the material settings like i did in ue4

[past stag]

maybe there is so much ppl using it

and btw the new gui looks amazing

[karmic shard]

i havent clicked anything that will show ue5 i wanna see it for myself

lol

[rough knoll]

its nice just some things are missing

[past stag]

I have seen one pic

[rough knoll]

such as tessellation haha

[past stag]

might be hidden somewhere through

[rough knoll]

im looking around for it

[icy cargo]

Unity

[past stag]

6gb remaining 🧐

[rough knoll]

am i just blind?

i don't see anything mentioning tessellation or displacement

[karmic shard]

weird

ive never used tessellation so i wont be able to help

[sturdy smelt]

@rough knoll because Tesselation and Displacment are depcreated, and will work something in Nanite

[rough knoll]

interesting

[sturdy smelt]

i readed it somewhere, where Devs said, The Workflow is gonna changed, and Displacment like we know it will deprecated

[rough knoll]

is there any documentation on nanite that shows how to use displacement maps in ue5?

[past stag]

Maybe look at this if here is something https://docs.unrealengine.com/5.0/en-US/RenderingFeatures/Nanite/

idk if it has

but maybe worth a look

[long thicket]

quick question

are nanite and lumen turned on by default?

[past stag]

I think its not "Nanite can be enabled on supported geometry in the following ways: on import; by opening the individual mesh editors; and through batch selection in the Content Browser. "

atleast for nanite

idk through

[long thicket]

thanks for the info

[karmic shard]

i love how variables look in the blueprint editor now

[past stag]

"Newly-created projects in Unreal Engine 5 have Lumen Global Illumination and Reflections enabled by default"

[rough knoll]

i wonder if it's able to be used in landscapes. displacement on landscape materials is a must for me

[long thicket]

i think it can

from what im reading it can be used for kilometers large terrains

[upbeat rampart]

damn ue5 is the real thing

[past stag]

and physics

better physics

atleast for 3d

[drowsy snow]

If you can do it in UE4, you can do it in UE5

[long thicket]

batch selection did it yeah

[rough knoll]

hm. nanite docs say nothing about landscapes

[thin knoll]

Guys, what you think of my awsome theme for Unreal Engine 5???

[long thicket]

now need to look into lumen

[rough knoll]

they also don't say anything about displacement maps

[long thicket]

LSD unreal engine

[thin knoll]

In editor preferences you can edit theme like Blender.

[past stag]

just try it

the recommended specs aren't always right

[karmic shard]

you dont need a 3070 and r9

not even close

pretty sure those specs are for the 100gb demo project

[upbeat rampart]

i think now were gona see games that exceed those 175gb of warzone

prepare for cinematic immersion

people excited for cyberpunk and got a broken garbage

here is the real thing

no promises no marketing

but the real thing

[karmic shard]

for some reason my projectiles are floating in front of me in mid air

but only sometimes

[past stag]

me with intel i5 2400 and radeon 5500 xt 4gb

[karmic shard]

and I keep getting runtime errors with a "switchOnECollisionChannel" node

[long thicket]

@swift basin I have a 1060 and nanite runs incredibly well

scene went from 2 fps to 20 fps

[upbeat rampart]

guys

how do i fix this

cant see anything

[past stag]

I am waiting for fortnite to get upgraded :D "we will migrate Fortnite to UE5 in mid-2021"

[long thicket]

it will probably get slower the more you add for sure, but i have atleast 6 assets in my scene that are over a million polys

assets from quixel too

[upbeat rampart]

pls can someone say? i cant work

[dusk nebula]

Does it seem like most UE4 guides are applicable to UE5?

[upbeat rampart]

i just closed a thing

nothing more

it shuld be a way to reopen

[fallen schooner]

Can someone tell me how to download UE5 preview? My library tab in Epic Launcher only lists Unreal 4 versions.

[long thicket]

you can, youll have to pay royalties i think, and make sure the assets youre using are licensed or made by you by licenced software

[upbeat rampart]

im pretty sure you can make assets with blender

and sell the game

[solemn cloud]

You can^^

[long thicket]

it is

[past stag]

f it. I am going to compile ue5 from source rn

and leave it for night :D

[tacit moon]

Can you add hooks into mutiplayer updates? Like if you want to offset transforms?

Like Player A's transform is at 10000,0,10000 but has been offset by -10000,0,-10000. That offset needs to be translated to other players over multiplayer.

[grim ore]

in theory? if that transform offset variable is replicated and used as part of the calculation then yes?

[tacit moon]

@grim ore So there are multiplayer update hooks you could use to inject there offsets.

[proud prism]

Do distance fields have to be on for nanite to work?

[tacit moon]

@grim ore But every player would need their own offset variable. So that they all stay close enough to origin to not have floating point errors.

[somber stump]

Just wanna say that this right here, the splash telling us what its actually loading is pretty awesome. The time's I've sat wondering why I'm stuck at 45% or 79% for long periods has worried me. This is cool thanks

[upbeat rampart]

how big is UE5?

[somber stump]

about 12GB

[upbeat rampart]

isnt ue4 like 45~?

[somber stump]

yea

[upbeat rampart]

i guess ue5 uses alot of ue4

[somber stump]

ok just checking internal folders now

it's 36GB

[hoary pike]

does someone know how to disable foliage animation/movement? its really downgrading the performance

[somber stump]

it downloaded 12GB but maybe it transferred files from ue4 I don't know

isn't the foliage movement thing a particle system? or is it a dynamic material you have set up?

[true falcon]

yes

[hoary pike]

oh god, I have no idea, cause im pretty new to unreal, where can i find that out?

like it has material instances and such

[somber stump]

I mean there's quite a few ways to do moving foliage. See if you have any blueprints in your content browser that reference foliage somewhere

you might have a simple animation set up

[hoary pike]

ok lemme look, thx

[plush yew]

lets say i have 10 meshes i wanna apply one material to it. but the meshes have different sizes.
do i really have to create 10 material instances?

[grim ore]

depends on the material and what you want it to do

if its supposed to fit the size, then the material can be created to fit

[lusty jay]

Hey, Everytime i do "#include "PhysicsEngine/PhysicsConstraintComponent.h"" or do class UPhysicsConstraintComponent in the header file my game crashes and everytime i try to open the project again it crashes on startup and i always have to go back to an older commit

is this a bug?

is there any other way to get arounf this?

[grim ore]

do you get an error on that line?

[plush yew]

Yo guys, idk if someone else asked already, but were the geometry brushes removed in UE5? Can't seem to find them

[lusty jay]

no theres no error

[grim ore]

but you get those errors on the other lines?

it sounds like your include line is bad, or you put it in the wrong spot?

show your code

[abstract geyser]

@plush yew Brush Editing is still in the editor, cant find them but you should still have them

[lusty jay]

ok

[abstract geyser]

@plush yew Press Alt - P

then it comes up with this

[plush yew]

Yes! Thank you!

[tacit moon]

So with nanite can you just make as big of terrains as you can fit in ram and nanite will handle LOD issues?

And what's this open world streaming? How does that work?

[fierce tulip]

check some of the merged meshes

[broken heath]

Is it ok to create collision using unreal engine “add box simplified collision” ? For an asset that i would sell

Or i better make the same boxes outside of unreal (blender)

[grim ore]

@broken heathif thats the correct collision for it I dont see why not

[broken heath]

@grim ore thanks

[dusk nebula]

And most systems are the same, too?

[tacit knoll]

Hi, I'm having this oddly specific bug and it's extremely concerning because I can't progress the project without solving it.
Basically, after a recent update, the team members noticed that the project would no longer load, it would crash every single time the project starts up. I was able to get it back to loading by reverting my recent changes to the base AI actor, one of which included spawning an actor that is used for loot drops. I found that adding that code node back in specifically causes the crash. It's a simple "Spawn Actor from Class" node.
Over the day I've found a few things, firstly it isn't just the base AI, I was able to replicate it on the playable character actor too. It also isn't all actors, I added a Spawn Actor From Class to the loot drop itself and it was fine. Lastly, I have tried removing the C++ classes that were added semi-recently (possibly within the timescale of the bug, but unlikely) and it didn't make a difference.
The immediate crash log doesn't give much insight, unfortunately, mostly spamming "UE4Editor_CoreUObject" but ending with "kernel32" and "ntdll".
Any help or theories would be greatly appreciated.
Crash Log (Some info censored): https://pastebin.com/Cx2JBfm2

[dry fossil]

is there any course (preferably free on yt but I'd be fine with paying up to 20 euros) that teaches the basics on how unreal handles the concept of pawns, character controllers, player controllers and such? it's so confusing :(

[grizzled bluff]

oh boy do I have a course for you

its 8 videos long in which one of them she explains this in such a simple manner

im not sure in which one she talks about it so ill just send you the first one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTwxuahe5B4

best tutorial series out there imo @dry fossil

[trim bough]

I have a problem with my includes on the ue5 main branch, my includes are not found, and "CoreMinimal.h" is not found either

[ancient lotus]

@dry fossil if you like c++ heres my beginner series, if you want to skip the outside UE4 stuff skip to video #11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UaQ4ZztT9U&list=PLnHeglBaPYu9FFgnYww2UC1g3F7fYWkaT

[dry fossil]

thanks a bunch :)

[dry fossil]

c++ gives me existential anxiety and triggers my impostor syndrome

(thanks anyway, really appreciate it and I may still get a grasp of some important things anyway)

[warm delta]

UE C++ is not exactly C++

its has a lot of features that makes kind of C# such as GC etc (afaik)

UE 4 development will continue? or 4.27 will be the last version?

[drowsy snow]

Probably 4.28 is going to be the last version of UE4
UE5 has its own "master" branch. (Or rather "main" due to stuff)

[grizzled bluff]

i dont get why you would bother learning c++ when everything can be done in ue's visual scripting

or am i wrong here

[grim ore]

you arent wrong or right

[drowsy snow]

You're in the wrong, because Blueprints can be Expanded And Enhanced with C++

[tacit knoll]

Plus a big reason is to diversify a CV, for work with other engines.

[grizzled bluff]

fair point

[grim ore]

yep learning C++ and UE4 works great on the CV for a Unity job 😛

[grizzled bluff]

just starting out on gamedev, learning how to code is gonna be a huge roadblock for me

Since ue just makes it so simple

[desert jackal]

Trying to make this key variable appear on another BP

So I can set it.

But it won't show up.

[grim ore]

just stick to learning UE4 and using Blueprints with it, you can learn c++ later if you want

[drowsy snow]

Using C++ is not obliged, but if you want to do game engineering, consider expanding BP with C++ later on

[grim ore]

@desert jackal what do you mean appear on another BP?

[grizzled bluff]

Yeah would be a solid idea

thanks

[desert jackal]

So, I wanted to do a "can't open this door without this pickup"

[long thicket]

is there a way to check if lumen is on, i just cant seem to find that out

[desert jackal]

I have a variable for a key on the door BP, but it won't show up on the Key BP.

I have to get / set the variable right?

[grim ore]

so where is this variable supposed to be stored? who tracks it

like i assume something somewhere says "you have/do not have the key"

[desert jackal]

Oh, not in text no. I'm sorry, a bit new to this haha.

For a key and a door to work, you need to share a variable between them right?

[grim ore]

chances are your "player" should have this variable, and when you pick up the key it tells the player to make it true and when you get to the door it asks the player who overlapped it if its true

[urban iris]

anyone else getting very low framerate in UE5 editor?

[desert jackal]

I'll give this a try, thank you.

[vestal turret]

🤪

[buoyant granite]

:triangular_flag_on_post: SirWanThePink#1165 received strike 1. As a result, they were muted for 10 minutes.

[drowsy snow]

Ever since UE5 came out of early access, Manny seem to strike on more people than ever.

[fierce tulip]

need to keep people in check a little hehe

[drowsy snow]

Considering the influx of members from the early access lol

[viral lagoon]

Honestly I have no idea what could be the issue. From which event are you calling Spawn Actor from Class? I wonder if it is a dependencies problem. Do you have Blueprint nativization enabled for those Blueprints?

[last dune]

UE5 Vs UE4 vs UDK

[drowsy snow]

UDK is the ugliest of em tbh

[long thicket]

@last dune did you manage to find settings for lumen?

[last dune]

yup

[long thicket]

enlighten me daddy

show me the way

[last dune]

first: eneble this

[long thicket]

do i need an RTX card for it?

because i cant seem to find that setting

[last dune]

i dont no but update the drivers

[long thicket]

alright

i think ive found it

[last dune]

remember is on project settings

[long thicket]

in post process volume

i found some settings for GIU

GI*

it was switched to lumen

[last dune]

and remember to set to directx 12

[long thicket]

alright

thanks for the help

[long thicket]

okay i found the setting

i was on editor pref thats why i couldnt find it

project settings is the right tab

[vast tartan]

Man the UI is sooooooooo much cleaner. It "feels" so much more professional. Super clean, super tidy.

[last dune]

yes

[last dune]

yea i love the new UI

[tacit knoll]

Not sure about nativization, but it's the event that's called when the NPC is killed by the player. So it shouldn't touch anything like the construction script.

[grizzled bluff]

when changing levels, do variables of a character, or any blueprint, reset?

I basically want my character to have upgradable abilities in a game with multiple levels

[blazing niche]

Well. I don`t know what is that. But i think i should wait until UE5 become more stable.
I hope that I don't have to buy a new graphics card at current prices so I can to start using it.

[urban iris]

they get re-initalized. you need to put the variables in a persistent object such as gameInstance

[grizzled bluff]

gonna have to dig into that, thanks :)

[river cradle]

yep, weird dips all over the place as well

[urban iris]

i'm getting consistently low framerates (10-20 region)

[river cradle]

damn, thats shit

what are your specs?

[urban iris]

but only in editor's viewport, when i run the project in new PIE or standalone its much higher

6700k and 1060 6gb

even a newly created empty project is the same

might be a driver issue?

[river cradle]

possible

[grim ore]

check out the #ue5-general channels, they have info on performance and other stuff that might help you out

[urban iris]

not only the viewport, the BP editor is also very low framerate

[grim sphinx]

Now that UE5 is here...

RIP Unity.

[regal marsh]

Did anybody got to setup Nanites + Lumen already?

I could not find much about Nanites

[thick herald]

try asking in #ue5-general 🙂

[grim ore]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanorobotics

[cold condor]

Imagine if Unreal Engine kill Unity

[thick herald]

or rather #lumen or #nanite

[regal marsh]

ahhhh, makes sense!

[cold condor]

Also is UE5 easier to use than 4?

[vestal turret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuHjuLWXcwA

[vestal turret]

I love the interface so far, feel a bit like Darker Nodes plugin

[strong summit]

Even without nanite enabled. Did you find if there's a way to import meshes from maya etc. flagged with nanite meshing to avoid those performance drops?

Well to avoid while you go to the content browser and flag it manually :v

[broken heath]

I am new to creating collisions why unreal messed up the collisions i created in blender?

[vestal turret]

did not check for Maya, just Blender

[strong summit]

My question was, I'm out of the engine atm, so I didn't check this. But when you click import, is there a check for convert to nanite mesh? Because if that's the case there shouldn't be any issue importing any mesh regardless of the massive polygon count. That's how the megascans works with drag and drop if not mistaken, it's seamless and there's no hickups whatsoever

[ember raven]

can i play unreal engine 5 demo ? can id ownload

[vestal turret]

it's not a demo but a full working early access version, just open your Epic Launcher

[vestal turret]

I did not notice any check for that

[ember raven]

i mean this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psI6yPLj1vE

[vestal turret]

yes, just scowl down under UE5 tab

[ember raven]

ahh niice

[feral sierra]

Anyone knows how to convert landscape mesh into NANITE?

[vestal turret]

100G of download... 🤪

[ember raven]

not nice i have 20gb left!!

[strong summit]

Here 🙂

[narrow mauve]

Not supported atm

[ember raven]

and 1080 TI will not work on it right

[feral sierra]

so it's better to bake the terrain into a static mesh and set it as Nanite no?

[strong summit]

Actually not sure if it's better. I'm going to try to create something on world creator and export it as a mesh. If that works with nanite without issues , it would be great. Although you lose landscape tools and you can't deform the terrain (if you have any mechanics like that you can't use nanite that way). I still think it's not worth, but I want to test as well

[vestal turret]

good catch!

[strong summit]

Yea so I believe that if you import it as a nanite mesh, your performance won't tank and it should help with crashes when importing large stuff.

[feral sierra]

sure, very curious about how it goes. Regarding the issue you highlight, you can still keep the original terrain if you need to make some changed to it, and reimport it

[feral sierra]

why it wouldn't be worth?

[vestal turret]

I just realized that nanite was NOT automatically tick when I did my import

[feral sierra]

I'm dumb, I forgot about the landscape material and stuff

😆

definitely not worth

[potent edge]

so i tried booting up ue5 and uh. had to abort lol

[ancient lotus]

@broken heath your collision mesh looks concave, instead make the collision mesh 3 parts (3 separate collisions)

[broken heath]

Alright thanks @ancient lotus

[strong summit]

You didn't notice the 10 fps ? 😄 You can right click the mesh after anyways

[strong summit]

Yea but for example with landscapes you usually want to iterate a lot, reimporting at every change isn't feasible. You can technically blockout and then do your process. But then if you wish to make changes after it's a mess once again. But then again, they added those new tools to edit meshes directly in UE5, I'm pretty sure that could work, although the landscape tools are really cool imo

[vestal turret]

that make a HUGE difference to tick nanite haha🤪

[feral sierra]

yeah you're right

[strong summit]

I thought the triangle count would stay the same? it would only render less? I'm quite confused why it changed the polycount o.o

[feral sierra]

it changed to be able to work in the editor without performance issues

[bitter ether]

sorry guys, if I want to clear vault cache I need to delete the folders in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Epic Games\Launcher\VaultCache", right?

[tacit moon]

Wait, unreal now runs on macs?

[strong summit]

yea but that's no the in editor polycount, that's the mesh polycount. It actually did something to the mesh. It's interesting tbh, didn't think it would mess with the geometry.

[tacit moon]

Can you actually use Unreal to make games on a mac?

[brittle tundra]

Ofc

[feral sierra]

we'll see, maybe it says 6000 but when you press play and zoom on the mesh, the polycount "raises"

[vestal turret]

yeah me too, but the look is the same in runtime, no visual difference

[tacit moon]

What is the Unreal IDE called? I want to research if MacOS has full support for dev work.

[desert ocean]

How can i rotate an actor to the direction its moving(Velocity)?

[strong summit]

So the content browser shows the polycount in the viewport instead of the original? Well good to know 🙂

[jolly steppe]

It seems UE5 doesn't like my hair, LMAO

[late stag]

Does anyone know any good paid ue4 fps courses?

[strong summit]

that happens when you use low screen res as well but to everything in the scene, in the sample map anything less than 50 screen percentage would do that over the entire character

[jolly steppe]

I don't think I set the screen percentage low. Did UE5 make the default lower?

trying to remember how to set post process volume to global. haha.

found it!

yeah so I forced the screen percentage at 200 and that still happens

[strong summit]

I meant, it might give you some insight on why it's happening. I'm not sure how they handled the hair on their character tbh

[slate vessel]

Anyone else disappointed with the recommended specs for 30fps with nanite and lumen 😆

[ancient lotus]

what was the specs it suggested

[slate vessel]

12 core cpu 64gb ram gtx 2080

[ancient lotus]

idk why on the ram, i only saw 17gb used

[jolly steppe]

ahh, well I use to use the hair option in "shading model" but something doesn't seem to be working now. I'm not too worried about atm. I just though it was funny. My hair turned into space 😆

[strong summit]

Im not, they said it was running poorly beforehand and that they were targeting 60 fps for official release (which I think it's a lot of optimization, not sure they'll be able to pull that off)

[ancient lotus]

need a 6800xt/3080 for 60fps it seems

[plush yew]

where can I ask general development questions? Stuff like, why does the color I set via my code for the InstancedStaticMeshComponent doesn't take effect 😄 ?

[ancient lotus]

c++ in #cpp blueprint in #blueprint

[plush yew]

funny if one uses F# 😹

Well I use a plugin called UnrealCLR which exposes the API to .NET languages, that's why I'm a bit lost 😄

However I'll try my luck then in #cpp

[tacit moon]

Anyone know if Unreal runs on the Mac M1 chip?

[jolly steppe]

Is that UE5 demo they showed at E3 available for download?

or do I have to make a build of it

[remote parrot]

it requires 100 GB so.. 😆

[jolly steppe]

oh my

well...

uhh....

screw it. I'm a masachist

rip my SSD LMAO

[remote parrot]

I'm on laptop so downloading it you be a suicide mission

i'll try ue5 tho

[jolly steppe]

I really like the new interface

also lumen is super nice!!!!

[remote parrot]

yes it's amazing

[ionic tide]

Not sure how to share it but I made a UE5 Animated Wallpaper (4k) in Wallpaper Engine heh 😄

[jolly steppe]

lumen tracing : )

don't mind me. Just playing with balls <_<

[potent bridge]

Is there a method within UE4 to make While Loops only execute every [x time]?

Sorry, I meant for loops

[drowsy snow]

You mean limiting how the node executed in a session?

[potent bridge]

no I mean it has a timed delay between each execution

for example 0.1 seconds, execute, 0.1 seconds, execute

thing wont let me put a delay node here

[coarse turtle]

WHere to download the UE5 dmeo sample project?

[drowsy snow]

It's in the launcher

[coarse turtle]

Thanks

[fervent maple]

Hello, i am using on my game the steam leaderborder stats, it was working fine, activating the achievements and counting the stats, but suddenly this is not working anymore. I dont have changed the programming and i even created another project and put the same programming. In the other project the achievements worked. Anyone know what can be the issue?

[cedar wave]

@grim ore You had access this whole time? Why you little....

Mathew is doing the sneaky sneak

[true falcon]

😮

ketchup time

[drowsy snow]

🙊

[robust spoke]

Hiho someone know the VA Rest Login Plugin?

I have a little Problem with the Register and Login Button.

[sly ember]

Are collisions broken on cable components? I can't generate an overlap event for the life of me

[autumn grail]

Hello. where is the "run dedicated server" checkbox in 4.26 and 4.27? please

[astral rapids]

ue4 cant build lighting at all on my pc, doesnt matter what project
reinstalling and clearing vault cache didnt help
could someone help me out?
[Interface:OpenJob] Error: The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it.
^ from swarmagent log

[patent cedar]

Hello my friends

[plush yew]

hey guys

how to clear baked light in ue5 ?

[patent cedar]

whats a good way to have a single large face with a repeated 16x16 texture across it. I tried this method but it made the texture extremely blurry

[autumn grail]

there is no "force no precomputed lighting" option in world settings?

[serene birch]

use a texture sampler that does no filtering

[patent cedar]

could you elaborate on a texture sampler that doesn't filter

[serene birch]

usually you set that in the texture settings itself, then the engine will automatically use a sampler that matches what you configured in the texture

though the worldaligned node might do tricking things to manage it's triplanar mapping

[clever marsh]

bro I havent saved in a while and my pc just crashed 😳

oh god

[drowsy snow]

Always save and use source control

[clever marsh]

I saved like 30m ago but since then I have done a lot of work

[muted hazel]

Hey everyone 🙂

Im having this problem when i open UE5 now

"Pure virtual function being called while application was running (GIsRunning == 1)."

Had it running today but now it just crashes 😦

[river crypt]

does anyone know if UE5 brings performance boost to mobile games?

[drowsy snow]

Not yet.

[river crypt]

ah ok, thank you for the fast reply

[drowsy snow]

Stick with UE4 until mobile manufacturers get their arse off of improving selfie cameras only.

[marsh forge]

can anyone explain me how the tech behind "virtual geometry" in Unreal 5 works ? What is it based on ? How it can render (stream) these millions triangles ?

[warped osprey]

does anyone know the system requirement for ue5

[drowsy snow]

Pretty much the same as UE4.

[modest trench]

(assuming you set it up the same way)

Lumen is fairly costly

[coarse turtle]

"Nanite intelligently streams and processes only the detail you can perceive, largely removing poly count and draw call constraints, and eliminating time-consuming work like baking details to normal maps and manually authoring LODs, freeing you up to concentrate on creativity."

[warped osprey]

Guys that's what I thought. No, My PC won't be able to run the sample games that you can download and play with.

Plus I don't have the HDD space.

[lament plaza]

Slightly off-topic, but they're no other sub-forum dedicated to the launcher. Anyone know what happened to the chat in the Unreal Launcher - maybe once it became the Epic Launcher ... I can't reach fellow devs anymore.

[plush yew]

Lumen is Software based Raytracing. You dont require an RTX card for it or even Direct X12. Im using windows 7 DirectX 11 currently and have full use of ALL UE5 features.

[dire lantern]

How do I fix this guys?

[dusk nebula]

Best way to display text over an actor's head? Bonus points if I can do things like a progress bar or an image

[zinc cave]

Hey all--curious if anyone knows off the top of their head why my dark areas of the foliage mesh is showing up white like this in UE5? Within the Post Processing Volume is where the culprit is--it happens when I turn on GI using the Lumen method. Most of it goes away when I activate Reflections (lumens), but some of it at the darkest areas still remain white. Thanks in advance! Loving UE5!

And you can see here that it only happens close to camera, as farther away things don't have this effect. You can see the bottom of the image below it starts to happen.

[grim ore]

@dire lanternmaybe remove the + from the file name

[heavy egret]

ive been wanting to try out unreal engine for a while now and was planning on starting soon, now ue5 early access came out. Should I jsut learn unreal engine 4 now and do stuff in that or try learning ue5 while it's sitll in early access.

[worn anvil]

UE4 and UE5 work the same really so start with UE4 and get ur feet wet

Anyone know if making a full game in blueprint is good idea? I’m not a beginner in the Unreal space but C++ is still very daunting to me lol, I’ve just been making smaller experimental projects

[warm prism]

You cannot do everything with blueprints, there are limitations. Which C++ does not have.

[worn anvil]

Would things like gameplay work fine? I don’t mean anything advanced like procedural terrain or things like that

How much harder is C++ compared to C# anyway thats the only programming experience i have

[heavy egret]

umm there are more things you have to deal with in c++ that are easier to do in c#

[cedar wave]

Raw C++? A bit more difficult. Unreal C++? Not so much honestly. Just more verbose and not as high level as C#. So it is missing some niceties.

[vocal marlin]

Think of C++ and BP as something that complement eachother instead of a choice that overrides the other one

To start getting your feet wet, BP is very good. It can take a bit of the headache of starting learning the logic behind programming before starting using C++

After you have gotten the point of learning C++ you will find more easily exactly the best purpose if each

[worn anvil]

I have another question, can Unreal perform as good as Unity on lower end PCs?

Also thanks for ur messages

[paper sphinx]

Hey guys im trying to render a cinematic with movie render queue. It was working fine up until this after noon when i started another render and after about 20 seconds it crashes and comes up with an error mesage saying "gpu crashed or d3d device removed"

please i need help

[worn anvil]

and by perform i mean like actual build

[vocal marlin]

C++ for flexibility and power, BP for iteration speed

[vocal marlin]

The editor, no idea, I think Unreal is more prone to be slower. Release build might have chance to be faster tho I don't have actual benchmark to support the theory

[worn granite]

shipping?

Yeah, you definitely can beat Unity if you know what you're doing.

You can outperform Unity on Mobile if you know what you're doing and have the time.

The editor? Oh gosh, no not really.

[worn anvil]

Yes I dont think Unitys editor will get beat performance wise lol

But they also have like 100x less features so

[worn granite]

I bet it could be, but you'd want to start from scratch

And by the time you have all the features, you'd have to be very skilled to still have better perf all around

But, you can try; that's what drew me to UE in the first place. You can just go do things in the source code

[vocal marlin]

Not gonna lie, if both Unity and Unreal editors where as performant as Godot I would be a very happy man.

[cedar wave]

Won't happen. Unreal offers way more than Godot.

[worn granite]

Godot feels pretty lightweight and snappy, even to build from source

[worn granite]

I would start with 4.26 - not really a ton in UE5 that a newb could leverage. Plus, any instability would make it more frustrating.

[pastel ginkgo]

Does anyone know what a "map" texture is for? I'm trying to link textures and I'm not sure where it goes. There's also an additional "diff" texture. The one with the black around the green leaf.

[vocal marlin]

Realistically, the best Unreal can get is close to Unity.

[worn granite]

My universal recommendation is to define enums and structs in C++, at least. If you don't want to do anything else in C++, the rest can be BP.

Best case is to have game-specific Game Framework stuff start off in C++, with BP subclasses.

[vocal marlin]

Unity, may actually become as lightweight as Godot if it the modularization that is having actually ends in something tangible

But it can turn it into a weird engine where you installed by pieces

[heavy egret]

Ok thanks for your advice!

[worn granite]

that can depend on what is encoded; you might have specular in the red channel with metallic in the green - that probably isn't a real scheme but there is no reason it could not exist

One could have opacity baked in with other map textures...

R - Opacity
G - Specular
B - Metallic
A - Roughness

is possible for instance

#graphics might be the better spot to ask

[noble wedge]

I told UE5 to install on the D drive. And I told the sample to install to the D drive. Yet it's checking space on the C drive.

[dire lantern]

Sadly it doesn't work 😦

[brave niche]

When I first built the engine from source it was really quick to load

but now it's slow.

I find it odd.

[violet zenith]

Hey just trying to load an old project from ue4 4.25 its loading the minimal default level? all the assets are there in the content folder but the project isn't loading them

anyone know why this would happen? did i somehow delete only the level data or something?

[cloud pilot]

Best thing I’ve seen today, well maybe 2nd best, UE5!

[thin tendon]

lmao

[vocal marlin]

A classic

[winter rain]

Hey guys, I created a mesh in blender that I'd like to import to UE4. Problem is, it has 6.5 million polygons. What polygon limit should I be looking to not exceed for a UE4 import? My last import attempt crashed the program

[grim juniper]

When you download assets it saves a local copy to your asset vault. It looks like your asset vault is on the C drive

You can change the asset vault cache location in the launcher settings

[autumn flame]

Look into Decimate tool

[winter rain]

Right, that's how you lower the poly, but is there a number I should be shooting for?

[autumn flame]

Depends on what really

Small mesh, what it is, etc etc

[lusty dew]

should I use UE3 or UE4?

cause I feel like my laptop can't run UE4

[fervent maple]

Hey guys, I'm having a issue with steam achievements, the node cache achievements always fail. Does anyone knows how I can solve this?

[grim ore]

@lusty dewif your laptop can't run 4, then try something else. using UE3 at this point is not a winning idea

[lusty dew]

UE2 it is then

[old nimbus]

Lol

[warped sluice]

fps is maxed at 60 even when i set it to 120 in UE5, is this a known issue?

[wet pond]

what is the best way to learn ue4? Is there a really good tutorial series on youtube or something

[plush yew]

can anyone tell me how can i export a project to another computer

[grim ore]

@wet pondread the pinned messages in here

@plush yewyou can just copy the entire project folder to another computer. the project is all in the folder. If you need to you can compress/zip up the folder then send the 1 file

[fervent prairie]

coming over from unity, and confused by the terminology of "map" and "level" - are these two words for the same thing (Unity "scene") ?

[grim ore]

yes* with some exceptions

if your just learning you can associate them, you might want to check out the unity -> UE4 docs and course for some quick start tips

[fervent prairie]

thanks

[grim ore]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.26/en-US/Basics/UnrealEngineForUnityDevs/

[old nimbus]

Hey, check out pins, there's a lot of material in there!

Basically, this is what I started from.

[warped sluice]

Bridge also doesnt seem to import assets into my ue5 projects

[maiden swift]

Definitely been a long day but I managed to install UE5 on the laptop before leaving. I just made my first MetaSound. 😄

Not gonna get a ton of time with it until next week, but I at least got to experiment a bit tonight.

MetaSounds are insane.

It's like the material editor but for sound design. I can build a synthesizer in the engine procedurally.

Fully programmable audio pipeline. ❤️

I'm off to bed folks. Have fun, I'll return tomorrow. 👋

[remote parrot]

were you guys able to open a previous c++ project on ue4?

it made a copy of a bp project i had, but for the c++ it couldn't generate some files 😦

[marsh shore]

Ok. Building ue5. And looking at prices of SSDs 👀

[true sail]

How would I get a headless server build of a multiplayer game into the cloud using a server provider such as AWS or Azure? What are the requirements of doing so and are there any resources I can look at for more specific detail on how I would do it?

[upbeat rampart]

guys

is this normal

[true sail]

yep

[upbeat rampart]

2.5k shaders?

[true sail]

yeah

[upbeat rampart]

how to speed it up

[true sail]

get a better computer

[upbeat rampart]

jesus

[true sail]

ikr

kinda a pain

[upbeat rampart]

u mean better CPU

[true sail]

well cpu is just one part

ram is another important aspect

hard drive, graphics card, etc.

[upbeat rampart]

i have 16g ram

[true sail]

That's probably enough

What's your CPU?

[upbeat rampart]

for packaging i think cpu is the thing

its bad

[true sail]

Well if you get a better cpu, it might speed things up, but there's the chance that it wont

have you heard of bottlenecking?

[upbeat rampart]

AMD A8-9600 RADEON R7, 10 COMPUTE CORES 4C+6G 3.10 GHz

[true sail]

Oh 3.1 GHz not too bad

[upbeat rampart]

its on ssd aswell

[brave niche]

Real quick question, which VS option should I choose for a client to have console access?

Test Client?

I'd assume

[upbeat rampart]

it will compile all those shaders no matter the size of the project right?

cus this project is pretty much the default rolling ball one

[void matrix]

A8-9600 looks fairly low end on the benchmarks - might be worth seeing if you can upgrade.

you can reduce shades to compile, to some extent. there's a lot of project settings and material settings that relate to this, and you can designate some master materials as well as disable cook/package editor content.

[upbeat rampart]

yeah ive been told its quite low end

but its an old pc anyway

will upgrade

espetially for UE5

maybe will build a custom pc for that

[drowsy snow]

Does anyone having issues when saving maps with Landmass' Blueprint Brushes? I get this error which prevents me from saving my maps that uses it.

[sly glade]

Hello all,
Is there a good thirdperson project available somewhere with :

• the regular male mannequin (of course)
• the weapons starter animation pack, implemented in the character controller
• basic weapon templates working with the animations (probably using Paragon weapon models)
• and a decent thirdperson shooter controller ? with basic expected controls (shooting, aim down sight, and so on)

[drowsy snow]

Not exactly having all the features you mentioned, but the ALS should get you started with more features.

[sly glade]

Ha, that's probably true yeah, I suppose that injecting the weapons anims shouldn't be too hard, especially with ALS3

somehow didn't think of that !

[drowsy snow]

Nevermind this. I actually solved it by moving the Brush Manager to the landscape map.

[undone sinew]

Anyone know how to fix this Unreal viewport grid display issue? I've set the grid size to 2.54 aka 1 inch.

In 3D, it looks fine, 2D is the issue.

[rugged oxide]

dude

its so weird seeing a 5 here

like surreal

it doesn't feel real

i guess you could say it feels

unreal

[plush yew]

is ue5 slower than ue4

[harsh oak]

ue5 starts faster for me than ue4 lol

also, why is quixel bridge not a thing for 4.26? I mean you dont need to use the highres assets.. the drag and drop is just so crazy good

[plush yew]

i usually get above 100 fps in first person shooter template and 20 fps in ue5

[drowsy snow]

Yes, for now.

[drowsy snow]

Try backporting the UE5 Bridge. If you have success with it, please make pull request for 4.27

[grizzled hazel]

why does my ue have to compile shaders everytime i load into my project?

[drowsy snow]

You either swapping RHI every so often, messing with plugins, switching rendering features, or wiping your Derived Data Cache folder.

[grizzled hazel]

i see

[plush yew]

Guys how to enable tessellation in a material? in UE5

[drowsy snow]

You don't use tessellation in UE5.

[plush yew]

what's the other way to make the height map work?

[honest vale]

tessellate stuff in your 3d modeling program

[drowsy snow]

Or rather "subdivide"

[honest vale]

tessellate works too

verb
decorate or cover (a surface) with a pattern of repeated shapes, especially polygons, that fit together closely without gaps or overlapping.

okay enough procrastinating ->

[harsh oak]

okay guys.. I have some thoughts about making 24-30fps games playable

I thought the only problem with fps like this, especially in FPS games or so, is that it feels sluggish.

[modest trench]

make them turn based?

[harsh oak]

VR has fixed this problem in a different way how normal games work

because in VR you feel every little latency

its called Asynchronous Spacewarp

[modest trench]

I feel like with enough drugs/sleep deprivation you could maybe convince me to pretend to play an action game at 24fps

I just realized 144hz is only 6.94ms

[harsh oak]

anyone know how that works? so the frame renders but the input is taken once more right before the frame renders and then the image gets distorted to match the input if it changed late

could that make extremely low fps not sluggish if it were used for normal games? 😄

[modest trench]

I love the BP nativization being gone

Just "lol, optimize somewhere lse dude"

there has to be something else

[harsh oak]

if you get the input first and render an image at 24 fps.. it takes 40ms to get on the screen.. of course that feels sluggish as hell

but if you get the input right before it renders it should feel like 60fps

[minor pine]

It never worked without an error for me

[modest trench]

yeah, it was never really stable

[harsh oak]

headmovement = input

[modest trench]

I can't blame htem

[minor pine]

Nooo

[modest trench]

they actually might

[minor pine]

Or you mean old hot reload (not live coding)?

Ah, ok, it doesn't work too

[modest trench]

live coding is getting an upgrade https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/a2237e050de4abad4b06219ede2d866ccb81ebb7#diff-38d347058e4175d449cb773918cf16fd7921e98dcad62c64aeafe5b5caa434ac

I'm honestly not really sure what any of that commit means exactly

honestly the improved startup times in 4.24 were a huge help as well

yeah, still seems fairly cursed

[minor pine]

Awesome. Interesting how it works, "reinstancing" sounds like it replaces actual data, but there can be old callbacks referencing old data structure, and how does it know how to copy old data structure into new

[potent bridge]

Question, is it possible to get how far the destination is from the player on a nav mesh? Example I have a tile system and the maximum movement is 7 tiles, that calculation starts to have issues if we’re stepping up or down.

So I want to disable the tiles that are not within 150*7 walking distance of the player

[honest vale]

the path finding query should return the path along with its length

at least on C++ side it's easily done

[potent bridge]

Ah, never done C++

I know theres a node thats Get path distance, but theres little documentation on it

[drowsy mesa]

My shadow is just being weird I need help

[honest vale]

the mesh is probably one sided

[drowsy mesa]

Yes the mesh is one sided

Should I make it as two sided?

[minor pine]

You can add 2-poly roof facing up so that it makes shadow

[honest vale]

yes, otherwise it won't cast shadows

[drowsy mesa]

2 poly roof? Sorry I m not sure about the meaning

[drowsy snow]

They all mean two sided shadows

You can make the material Two Sided (which means both side of the faces using the material have textured that will block light) or have the mesh cast two sided shadows, which make the light pretends that the mesh is double faced when it's not.

[drowsy mesa]

Ok thanks

[minor pine]

Yeah, I think there is also two sided shadows option in mesh actor/component settings somewhere in light mass category

But I meant, add special polygons in the mesh at back side for them to cast shadows. That would be a tiny bit faster

[clever solstice]

Anyone having issues with shadows when using nanite ?

[drowsy snow]

#nanite

[drowsy mesa]

Two sided material has worked but do I need to turn on every single of materials?

[deft sky]

Hi i got a lightmass problem where the building light all ways fails. I tried to use swarm. But that dos not fix it.

[honest vale]

if you make single sided geometry and you want it to cast shadows on both sides, then yes

[drowsy snow]

Yes, but you can use material instances.

[drowsy mesa]

Thanks

But the plane in ue4 just works while my plane needs to turn on two sided material

Plane in ue4 just casts shadow normally without two sided material

[honest vale]

are you sure?

maybe the plane has a face on both sides

[drowsy mesa]

I just tested

Hmmm

[serene birch]

isn't there a material flag that basically says "casts shadows as double sided"?

or is that some other engine 😄

[drowsy snow]

Not in material, no.
It's per mesh basis

It's named "Shadow Two Sided" in 4.26

[serene birch]

hmm, ok why not

[long thicket]

Thanks for letting me know, I've done some testing as well, and youre right

[potent bridge]

so get path length seems to hate negative values for whatever reason.

[restive yarrow]

Is the early access version of UE5 a 64 bit engine? if it is then the world bounding should be more than 20 sq km right?

[serene birch]

I'm pretty sure the Unreal Editor has been 64bit only for years

[restive yarrow]

many people have told me its a 32 bit engine

[serene birch]

you must mean that it uses float32 types and not float64

[restive yarrow]

but what i am asking is that UE5's world bounding limit should be more extended than UE4's right

[serene birch]

people spotted some support for using doubles in UE5 but I don't think it's finished yet

[restive yarrow]

doubles as in floats?

[serene birch]

double as a 64 bit float

float is a 32 bit float

[restive yarrow]

tell me about the world bounding limit in UE5

[serene birch]

yes, double are a lot more expensive than float

[restive yarrow]

will the world bounding remain the same as 20 sq km?

[drowsy snow]

Isn't the world composition bounding in UE4 is 400 km² already?

I counted that every edge is 20km long.

[restive yarrow]

No, even if it is, then its not for multiplayer

[serene birch]

I think 20 sq km doesn't mean 20 km² but "a square of side 20km" 😛

anyway, UE5 seems to have a new method for world composition/offsets too

supposedly it should handle big worlds ?

[upbeat tendon]

hi I am trying to enable RVT, in the tutorial i am watching i see copy rotation and bounds for the RuntimeVirtualTextureVolume, however on my screen i don't have these buttons, do i need to enable something else to get this functionality?

[restive yarrow]

thats what i want to know

[serene birch]

ask in t he ue5 channels

[restive yarrow]

if you can make levels larger than 20sqkm

[drowsy snow]

Do you rely on old test methodology? Because even in local MP test it worked across 20 km long (not area, long)

[worldly lynx]

can anyone help me , why Animation morph work on editor but it dont work in game?

[drowsy snow]

It might not help because I'm not developing an MMORPG, but I still rely on replication for replays.

[potent bridge]

Am I doing something wrong here? It seems to be very inconsistent, one moment its 1700 units from destination and then its 1100

[iron frigate]

heyy

so does someone have knoiwledge of the slice procedual mesh node?

[potent bridge]

a few inconsistent changes of about 400 rn

[iron frigate]

its working like a charm but my mesh can now be cut into infitie independent meshes and thats causing my project to to crash. would anyone know how to put a limit on that ? theres a boolean called "create other half" but im not sure how to control it

[drowsy snow]

Man, this Landmass plugin is a bitch to work with.
Guess another sanity check.

[feral sierra]

anyone knows what is this one? And how important it is for graphics?

[drowsy snow]

Basically Temporal Upsampling

[feral sierra]

it is worth the 3.5 ms? for a stylized game maybe I don't need it?

[drowsy snow]

You'll definitely need it regardless of stylised or not.

I mean, my UE4 game has anime style, and still uses plethora of UE4 features, Temporal Upsampling included.

[grim juniper]

Yes, the answer is yes.

[drowsy snow]

For one thing, it'll scale up small render resolution with less blur than normal linear upscaling.

[hushed kraken]

Why wouldnt you enable temporal upscaling? It allows using your game at much higher resolutions

[hushed kraken]

"less"... bro theres no comparing an interpolation algorithm to temporal upscaling lol

[drowsy snow]

Nah, I still notice some blur in Temporal Upsampling, but not as severe as linear upscaling.

[hushed kraken]

Thats most likely motion blur

Temporal Upscaling is designed to get around blurring

Unless youre trying to upscale like 10x

in which case, basically any upscaler will fail there

[feral sierra]

because w're very short in ms budget, but if it does this, it might be worth it

[hushed kraken]

Then perhaps try toning down the effects...

like... youve got like everything enabled there

or it could just be your hardware

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[feral sierra]

maybe, I have a crap GPU (1060)

[hushed kraken]

yeah.. pre-20 series likely arent going to do so well with next gen game engines

Mine is starting to get expired aswell as stuff gets crazier (I have an RTX 2070 Super)

slowly but surely Its getting outdated

[serene birch]

it wouldn't be that bad if there was reasonably priced 30xx cards to buy 😛

[feral sierra]

yeah, I cannot play properly with the UE5 project sample. That's a huge gap in performance needed, still very performant regarding the number of polygons

[hushed kraken]

There are, theres just a shortage in material, so its more expensive

My 300$ 2070 Super is now 500$ in nvidias store

it can go up to 2000$ on ebay and amazon

[serene birch]

reasonably priced

[hushed kraken]

well

its a GPU

there is no "reasonably priced"

if you want a powerful GPU, youve gotta invest in it

take a bite out of your wallet

[potent bridge]

Does anyone know why "Get Path Length" is extremely inconsistent at telling me how far two points are away on the navigation mesh?

[hushed kraken]

how is it inconsistent?

like, what exactly is happening

[potent bridge]

even in a straight line, I get massive jumps of about 300 units.

to explain my goal, I'm trying to get tiles within 7 walking units (each units 150 UE4 units) to turn red.

I'll get some images of my issue though

[plush yew]

Anyone else have the creation of the project of ue5 (ancient) stuck?

Its around 1 hour stuck on creating project..

[restive yarrow]

and how big exactly can you tell me?

[grim juniper]

#ue5-general message

[drowsy snow]

He asked for exact number though :3
Down to centimetres if possible.

[potent bridge]

Code for turning tiles

what it actually does

I mean yes I can detect if tiles are within standard distance but that raises the issue of these ledges

[drowsy snow]

I hope this quench your curiousity thirst.

https://youtu.be/-HBR8Z7gslg

[potent bridge]

the hoodie guy, sorry to bother you, but would you know whats up with the grid system? theres no way all those red squares are within 750 walking distance

[drowsy snow]

No idea, sorry.

[potent bridge]

np

[drowsy snow]

Maybe Datura or someone else has some insights they can give over on #blueprint

[restive yarrow]

it didnt because ive tried some multiplayer functions that stop working after 25 km from the world origin

functions as in pickup and drop and equip items

respawn

[drowsy snow]

Fine. I raised my hands off then.

[gloomy ginkgo]

Guys help
I have a computer actor that has 3d widget component but I can't interact with buttons that are inside of a vertical or a horizontal box, any help?

also I have hardware input enabled and I can interact with buttons that are not inside any kind of panel

[upbeat tendon]

with UE5 coming, will UE4 development stop?

[drowsy snow]

Not for a couple of years, and devs will still use UE4 until 2024 or later.

[upbeat tendon]

I was thinking that UE4 development was going to end as soon as 5 comes out

i am guessing the code won't be portable

[gloomy ginkgo]

#ue5-general

[upbeat tendon]

oh hey a new room, didn't see it

[gloomy ginkgo]

👍

[drowsy snow]

Seems like the Grass Maps rebuilding everytime is what actually stalls my Blueprint Brushes. Before I go try looking for it, is there a way to temporarily disable Landscape Grass Maps?

[sterile tulip]

Hello guys how are you, I hope you are all doing fine 🙂 ☺️ 😊

[visual drum]

Hi.
Can someone help with python for ue? How can I import asset to plugin folder with python?
With '/Game/*' work fine. If I try to use any other folder then game I get critical error.

[drowsy snow]

Python? Try ask around in #editor-scripting

[visual drum]

Thanks

[old marlin]

https://gist.github.com/unwave/e5250cba73c43bd1f6da51b5e35fdb25 Export from Unreal with textures for static meshes with python. Export python.

[potent bridge]

i figured that out by now, but ty

Would you happen to know how to get all actors this multibox trace hit though (and is it possible to append them to another array?)

[old marlin]

No.

[severe warren]

hello

[steel gull]

Hello

[severe warren]

i tried creating actors which have an instanced mesh as a component and create an instance of that in construction script. Another actor creates these actors in a grid fashion but nothing seems to spawn

anyone help?

[steel gull]

I am a noob 🥲

[regal mulch]

Show your code, properly visible and organized and then someone can probably help you

Without that, all my crystal ball says is that you did something wrong.

[steel gull]

Point

[severe warren]

this is the room construction script

this is the generating script which creates the rooms

[regal mulch]

I would start by giving your room a normal mesh component, like a box

[autumn grail]

Hello , i have troubles for spawning and possessing a character on the server. what is wrong ?

[regal mulch]

And see if stuff shows up

[regal mulch]

Because if it does, then there might be something fishy with hte AddInstance call

If not, then there is probably an issue with your grid code?

[regal mulch]

I would say multiple thing

[severe warren]

this is the create grid function

and this is the display grid function

[regal mulch]

For one, what is "BP_GAME_MANAGER"?
Then, you are calling a ClientRPC in that Actor. You don't want to spawn the Actor on the Client.

[severe warren]

tried it

[severe warren]

nothing shows up

[autumn grail]

Game manager , is my master class managing all the things concerning the whole game like sounds musics etc

[steady bramble]

hi, how can i get output image data from composition layer to screen? Is there a way to get realtime data from the composition to monitor, led wall, projector etc? Thank you

[regal mulch]

Okay, and is that an Actor? Component? Where does it exist? Who spawns it? Is it replicated? Lots and lots of questions.
But also, you are spawning on Client, or at least trying with that ClientRPC, which is wrong to begin with

[severe warren]

i don't see what might be wrong though

[regal mulch]

I would further suggest putting PrintString nodes into the ConstructionScript of the Grid thingy, or place break points and check if your TMap called GridArray is actually looking like you expect it to.

[autumn grail]

Game manager , is an actor placed in world , it is not replicated each client has his , i don't know if this is the right way , but i ml currently converting a solo game in multiplayer

[regal mulch]

What triggers the spawning of your Players?

Usually the GameMode should handle the Spawning of the Players

So you are making it additionaly hard for yourself using an additional actor in the scene

There is no real reason for the existance of such an actor

GameMode and GameState, together with Components if needed, should be able to fully take care of your game

[autumn grail]

so i can just copy paste all is in the game manager to the game mode?

[regal mulch]

In the GameMode you receive events for Players Joining as well as existing functions that call to spawn pawns for your characters

Idk how much you have in that Manager, so can't answer that

I would do it step by step

[autumn grail]

ok , But just for trying , if i pass the event "run on server" it would work?

[severe warren]

the first time that i compiled the code after adding print node in the rooms actor(construction script) printed it about 5 times but i saw nothing and no matter what i do, i didn't see any more prints

[regal mulch]

No, it's not that simple

Server and Client RPCs require that the Actor is replicated and owned by a specific client

The last thing is called Ownership and your Level Placed Actor isn't owned by Clients

If you know you are on the Server you don't need RPCs

Idk what triggers the spawning of your players

[regal mulch]

Check the log and see if what you print makes sense

[autumn grail]

When the button "multiplayer" is clicked it call "open level 127.0.0.1" and the begin play event redirect to that event "start Multiplayer " you have seen

My custom game instance rememebr with a boolean this is the multiplayer mode

so the begin play call the start multiplayer

[regal mulch]

open level 127.0.0.1 makes no sense

[severe warren]

i just printed hello to see if the construction script runs at all

[regal mulch]

Either you call open 127.0.0.1 to connect or open level?listen to host

[severe warren]

rip

[regal mulch]

But yeah, you should probably move spawning code to the GameMode

[regal mulch]

And given the lack of knowledge about this, I would suggest you don't port Singleplayer Games to Multiplayer and read up on Multiplayer a bit more. No offense, but you don't do yourself a favor.

That's not a mapname though

Not sure if it works the same, but usally you would use the ConsoleCommand node in BPs

with open <ip>

[autumn grail]

ok , i learn a lot

[timid turret]

Is there anywhere in the documentation someone can point me to that talks about the amount of player movement comprises data packets and updates from the server of player positions?

[autumn grail]

like that

?

i try

I'm not porting a single player to multi , i do a game with a single mode and a multi mode

sorry

[severe warren]

@regal mulch i think it's rather better for me to try and ask how to achieve what i wanna do(cause i've been struggling to do this and debug it and stuff never seems to work perfectly)

maybe someone can suggest me the proper way to do stuff

[regal mulch]

Yeah, but that's not the issue you were talking about. I would suggest you get rid of that manager and move the code step by step to the appropriate classes in UE4.

[autumn grail]

Sure i will do

Someone here tald me to make a game manager , bad idea

[timid turret]

My experience in tech support told me to ask multiple colleagues the same question to see how different the answers they give for that reason 😂

[regal mulch]

Was just about to say that

Ask multiple people

The first answer doesn't have to be good or bad, or wrong or right, but it doesn't hurt checking with multiple people

[autumn grail]

ok

[timid turret]

Trust but verify approach

[regal mulch]

I do this sh'te for a living for the past few years and I'm still learning every day. So even if I say something it doesn't have to be the best solution. :D

[severe warren]

i want to create a dungeon generator(i have meshes for the 4 types of connections that rooms and paths can have)
i want to

1. spawn random rooms
   2)generate paths with a* algorithm and eventually make it a bit more complicated and better at making paths
2. Read and make the appropriate meshes from the 16 types(rotations) of possibilities of each(rooms and paths)

[autumn grail]

The open 127.0.0.1 dosent open the map

console command

[regal mulch]

No, that's for connecting of course

If you want to open a map you have to use OpenLevel with the Map Name and then listen as option (if you want to host)

[severe warren]

i've went as far as writing all the cases within a single switch statement without branches

[regal mulch]

Also @autumn grail you can move this to #multiplayer

[autumn grail]

ok

[severe warren]

but it ended up not working exactly as i wanted it generated weird artifacts

[timid turret]

Oh did anyone have an answer to my question regarding how much of player movement comprises the data packets for replication?

Or where in the documentation I can see that

[wary wave]

I would just run tests and see for yourself

[drowsy snow]

#multiplayer
Also Unreal has network insight tools. I forgot what it's called or if it's even built in to the Unreal Insights.

[timid turret]

I suppose my question implies a follow-up that I would like to be able to edit said composition.

As different games require different amount of updates. I'm looking to build from the ground up network optimization to fit as many players on screen as possible.

That's why I need a direct answer on documentation. I already know how to run a perfstat on datapackets. But that doesn't tell me the composition of that data.

[severe warren]

I guess no one knows answer to my dilemma

[drowsy snow]

hold the phone, I'm scrolling up.

[severe warren]

^

there i replied it so you can find it easier

[hybrid eagle]

new UI in UE5 works more slowly? Or is it just me...

[regal mulch]

#ue5-general

[drowsy snow]

I'm not particularly good at doing procedural dungeons with more than 4 direction paths. (It's not like I have purpose to create one - and I use external software to generate dungeons)

Though generally you want to have the room assembled with static meshes, and generate the the transforms. My idea would be to have one central point to calculate the transform for the walls and stuff, and then determine which side of the wall should have entrance.

[severe warren]

it is 4 direction paths but the thing is i don't have custom entrances it's a mesh for each direction opening

[olive oriole]

how do i use the megascans texture blending feature in ue5? is there a new button, because the megascans tab is gone

[drowsy snow]

#ue5-general

[olive oriole]

they arent answering

[drowsy snow]

Rule #2:

Be patient when asking for help. This isn't an official Epic Games support channel so we can't guarantee a response. Don't ping people unless you're replying to them. If someone can help, they will. If not, come back in a few hours and consider rephrasing your question or adding more details.

Also consider experimenting yourself while waiting for answers.

[fierce tulip]

I just copied that rule as well :p

[olive oriole]

:) sorry

[dry fossil]

is it a bad idea to use the third person project to get the headbobbing on a first person controller by attaching the tp camera to the head?

feels like it is

[severe warren]

ok i'll also share my previous code maybe people can suggest/ figure out the issue with that code. it executes something like this

as you can see there's a path that leads to nothing in the bottom right(an artifact that idk how or why it get's constructed)

the algorithm is kinda messy so excuse my organisation

[vast pawn]

So I've been working on my own game project in UE4, would it be wise to jump to UE5 and continue my project from there?

[grim ore]

no

[grim ore]

and if you read the thingy when you downloaded UE5 it told you that

[cedar wave]

UE5 isn't "released" per say. It is in early access. It still has about a year before it is "released".

And that's assuming that it doesn't get delayed again.

[severe warren]

i'll help explain if you get confused

this also happened where the top paths aren't connected rn as i compiled to save and close the project for the day

[dry fossil]

real life spaghetti code

[severe warren]

i'm sorry

😅

[dry fossil]

not your fault :D

[severe warren]

but idk really how to organise them

[dry fossil]

you can add comments with C (I think?)

literally the C key, not the C language

:D

[severe warren]

cause i am using the min max value almost everywhere in that function i guess i can make local variables but i thought it'll be better to save space

[drowsy snow]

Also collapsing nodes into one node.

[severe warren]

i didn't know that was a thing

doesn't it just create a macro?

[drowsy snow]

It's not a macro, but nodes inside a node.

[drowsy snow]

While you can have such functionality with macro, you can collapse nodes into one node even for the sake of blueprint navigability, and execute input is not mandatory.

@night crystal Just to get my point across - this is Unreal Engine 4.26, and the whole sky system is assembled in less than a day.

Oh shoot, I guess discord didn't have player for M4V 🙄
Should've renamed it to MP4 for convenience

Well, sorry to have you download a video file.

[night crystal]

Yeah, looks pretty amazing - but then, unless I'm using hdrp in unity, ue4 just looks better by default 😛

[severe warren]

welp either way i'm gonna try to change the whole path making algorithm into a* soon

[night crystal]

but I find using hdrp in unity makes it fatter than ue4

[severe warren]

so i'm not gonna trouble myself with trying to fix this

[drowsy snow]

In case you're wondering - my settings are pretty much in Medium and very low screen percentage.

It helped that I crank up the TAA and Post FX to Epic, which is very minimal on performance.

[drowsy snow]

Also I doubt Unity has superb temporal upsampling out of the box 😛
Temporal upsampling is a godsend for lowspecers.

[night crystal]

there's about three or four months of work on this environment, terrain, and ui - I realize ue4 would have done most of it for me, and probably better - but tbh, I don't know how in ue, unity my home 😛