@plush yew in that case i would suggest you start out with this https://www.pluralsight.com/courses/cplusplus-fundamentals-c17
#ue4-general
chrome prism
proven oxide
i think they were trying to force server authority
chrome prism
it gets you up and running with modern c++
proven oxide
also lots of people now can program C++ and don't realise it
Arduino Sketches are C++
proven oxide
I just use http://www.safaribooksonline.com
chrome prism
it's a 60 hour slog
proven oxide
they have Video and books you can watch and learn from for FREE (if you get the trial)
plush yew
@chrome prism ty that book looks pretty neat at its from just a month ago
plush yew
damn, Im not sure how much time I'll need to allocate for learning to code on ue, to the point I cant start getting some jobs
unreal spoke
ok so DOF is working only on Cinematic quality in VR projects but it works as usual in non-VR projects? Do you guys know exactly what is different in the project configuration so I can configure the VR project as a regular project? And yes I know a VR game shoudln't have DOF, but still...
chrome prism
hard do say, but depending on your experience in c# it might not be too difficult
plush yew
I mean I've been mainly a 2d developer as of now, so I would have to start working with 3d movement math and that stuff
chrome prism
shouldn't matter too much
only issue is that unreal has a lot of quirks
and a lot of uncommented code
plush yew
what kind of quirks
chrome prism
you need to get deep in the mud with it until you have a grasp on how things are done
it has a lot of things that you might not think are important until your project breaks for no apparent reason
until you start getting the hang of it
after that it's business as usual
plush yew
ty,ty will give a check
proven oxide
you can also get some books in advance of publishing
pallid compass
If you don't know c++ don't start with ue4 c++
regal mulch
^
pallid compass
U will end up like me, totally clueless
regal mulch
You basically learn some generic stuff that most languages have, like conditions, loops, variables etc.
And then get spammed with macros that Epic created that make your life easier
And if you ever leave that bubble of macros, you find yourself in a mess
Cause you never learned native c++
next badger
thank god Epic is not using lambdas widely
cloud cobalt
I'm using more and more FWIW, it's pretty great in some cases
pallid compass
Lmfao if only
cloud cobalt
Stuff like sorting an array is way more readable as a lambda
pallid compass
That is true actually
next badger
looking at Slate
pallid compass
Ye don't look at slate ever
Irl hax
Says person who was looking at slate for about 8 hours yesterday
pallid compass
Dive in to custom editor slate with viewports and custom asset types it's very fun
next badger
plush yew
@cloud cobalt why not?
pallid compass
It really depends on what you need and how you structure your framework
What do you mean by hit
pallid compass
U gonna have try again
What do I mean by hit
Hit event?
Col event data handling
Your not being specific at all
We talking away to trigger the event?
thick herald
Afternoon folks. Hows life?
pallid compass
From a bit*
languid shard
hi
pallid compass
Hit
languid shard
I'm life
pallid compass
On phone and about to board a train
static viper
What was super gross???
pallid compass
Why would you do anything 100 times
static viper
did it look bad?
pallid compass
It's just an event hit
pallid compass
U mean u want the hit to be physical like a fight game
U talking damage for the skill
Okay so let's unreavel something
You got crossed wires
static viper
oh is a nintendo switch game ๐ฎ
pallid compass
Animstion, col and skill application should be totally unrelated
static viper
i never saw that market before
plush yew
@cloud cobalt okay if you just want to annoy me and stop me, please leave it
pallid compass
When u do an animation you can drive a col box
When a col box hits a thing you can try and apply a skill to the target
When u apply the skills you try and modify something
Separate the entities
It will make it easier
plush yew
Its not a talk channel @light lintel
pallid compass
This is also very dependent on your game framework
next badger
@light lintel when you hit you have a struct that you could pass...like damage, type of damage etc, anything
static viper
this channel is to crowded right now
pallid compass
Wtf u on bout scp it is
static viper
so better we go somewhere else.
pallid compass
Don't say struct just say skill for now
Don't want to overload
Trying to smooth it out for him
Skill can be any sort of data that is passed along
Well
Imagine u have a template for skills
Where u can create child classes
And fill the. Info out
next badger
@light lintel make a parent class, make one function...inherit...done
pallid compass
And function that lets you pass this data along on hits
He's not gonna get that alex
Got to explain properly
Slightly slow replies
next badger
ok, my bad
pallid compass
Not monster
Away to store skill data
Skill data should be totally separate
Nothing to do with monster
This way you can give monsters skills
Or assign them skilks
How ever u want to put it
Really first thing you want to think of is how u want to store skill dats
Data
A uobject is a good starting point really
Or object in BP
Imagine u have a object u can pass along on hits
That contains the information too apply
Or what should happen
U could then wrap skill data in another storage object
Skill info or something
That holds
Skill name
Skill icon
Skill data
Skill animation
Really pointing at data driven here
Making templates you can make children from
Where you just fill in the details
Make any sense
Trying to think of example in editor eer
Errr
Make object base class
Call it master skill data
Put damage float in there
Make children of it
Adjust dmg
Try and pass it along in a hit
Have function that processes it
Take DMG amount apply to target
Super bare bones starting point
Np
That be 400$ thx
Whole different can of worms
Same thing data driven prob
Dialog text system is way more complex than you would think
Normally away to mass store of dialog data and retrieve it through some sort of id
NOT DATA TABLES
Oh u mean a text display widget
When text called
Display widget load text
Pretty simple
Prob want a event dispatcher to tell it when it's done
Yeah YouTube is 90% shit
I don't hide it
Well there is actually
But not properly in BP
If you break all ref too it garbage collection will clean it maybe
maiden sundial
Which reference should i take, if i wanna have access to the vars of this class ?
strange sapphire
class reference? but i dont know thats just a wild guess
maiden sundial
I can't get vars with it, but maybe i'm trying it wrong
digital anchor
to the current values? Object reference
to the default values? class reference > class default object
maiden sundial
Alright, i'll try it
next badger
@maiden sundial object reference, if you're not looking for some "general" hardcoded variables
maiden sundial
I search for the default values in this case, and it works.
Thanks ๐
pallid compass
@light lintelwell that makes no sense because you need away to display dialog
fossil ore
Can someone help me out?
ร'm trying to make a turn-table camera that will allow me easily rotate 360 on the focused object.
But I don't know how to make sure that camera will be focused on X actor/object
digital anchor
You can attach a camera to a spring arm pointing to the opposite direction, doesnt matter the rotation of the spring arm the camera will aways point the center
or use Find look at rotation
languid shard
@fossil ore you can also use a Cine Camera Actor instead of the default camera
and edit the "Lookat Tracking" settings
fossil ore
...
languid shard
perfect for cinematics
fossil ore
I was using cine for 3hours
languid shard
you havent noticed ? :p
fossil ore
Didnt realize there is an option for that
languid shard
:p
fossil ore
Is it open for sequencer?
languid shard
sure is
fossil ore
Keyframe able?
fossil ore
๐
proven oxide
ok i am trying to understand how this is supposed to work but its confusing me
I have a data only BP called TeamPlayerStartBP
its parent class is Team Player Start
when i start the game i spawn at one of the starts, how does it do this, can i randomise which one and how is the player spawned?
wary wave
Game Mode classes have a number of functions related to player spawning logic
dig into those
proven oxide
GameMode and GameState they sound important how can i determine what they do
wary wave
standard practice (and default behaviour) is that the Game Mode looks for player starts and picks one for a player that has requested to spawn
Game Mode is the game rules
Game State manages game data for networking
proven oxide
is that BP or CPP
proven oxide
no idea i am looking at an open source project to learn from it
wary wave
then you're gonna have to dig :p
proven oxide
but the code and stuff isnt very good
there is a BP called GameModeDeathmatchBP
and MenuGameModeBP
graceful sky
I got GM_MainMenu, GM_Lobby and GM_World , if that makes more sense
For me it does ๐
since there's different "rules" and controllers etc in the different scenarios
wary wave
menu game modes and deathmatch game modes seems reasonable
proven oxide
Well the GameModeDeathmatchBP has nothing in it so how can i see how it works?
wary wave
naming conventions suck though
if that BP is empty it's probably just data and the native parent class has the implementation
pallid compass
If you want to dig, dig on the actual doc for what we of the basic stuff does then dig in example projects
If you want to dig, dig on the actual doc for what the basic stuff does then dig in example projects
proven oxide
I am trying to work out how this all works
i have an empty level
but when i run the level with play - it brings up the menu, i am like WTF how...
how can i also see the entry point into the game? where is that
how can i see in the editor where that is,
all the tutorials say create new project/game and its there
nothing explains how it is like that
pallid compass
Sounds like u need pick up some basics
Follow some shitth YouTube tuts
Mess about etc
Then go open project diving
proven oxide
well i am looking at the projerct settings, i see it as GameDefaultMap set to the MainMenu - but is that level or map
ok no map exists on that just a level
cloud cobalt
Level == map
I might have missed parts of that conversation @proven oxide but there are settings to control the default levels
abstract relic
Level == map == scene
cloud cobalt
Here is how it goes : you have a project settings entry that control which level (map) is loaded when the game starts
proven oxide
ok but the level is empty
cloud cobalt
In editor, when you launch, the current level is always loaded
And your menu is usually a level that does a menu, with a background, and enables loading of other levels
proven oxide
the playercontrollerclass has a MenuPlayerControllerBP assigned to it
abstract relic
Check the level bp. They usually load the hud through there
wary wave
that would be unusual
proven oxide
i cant see where the the empty level creates the menu
wary wave
it's more likely to come from the player controller
pallid compass
@proven oxide go do some random tuts and read wiki it will help a lot
Basics on setting game mode and level up
abstract relic
HUD, menu, you know what I mean
wary wave
honestly though, we don't have your project, so asking us is pretty pointless, the only way you're going to work this all out is by doing the digging yourself
we don't know what your predecessor has done
we're just guessing
proven oxide
MainMenuUIBP looks like the server browser page not the initial 2 buttons on the screen
abstract relic
Amber I call bs. Of course you can read minds
proven oxide
ok under the heirarchy it links into the server browser
and the buttons are not visible on the view
grim ore
Why learn the basics when you can ask for help to do everything until you give up because you can't figure it out?
proven oxide
and has the controls
abstract relic
If only there was a video series that can do that ๐
proven oxide
i would look if someone gave me a link
proven oxide
all the stuff i have seen never goes into this
pallid compass
Look on doc at game mode
grim ore
and if you have never seen this then you have not read enough to get to that point
"I never knew how to put in the gas in my car, the first 3 pages of the manual don't tell me how to do it. Nothing tells me how to do it I know everything about my car after 3 pages."
proven oxide
so i have to uninstall VS2017 enterprise and install VS2015 community edition ????
proven oxide
You should have a copy of Visual Studio 2015 for Desktop (Preferably Community or Professional Editions) installed before starting this tutorial.
grim ore
wait what I need to uninstall 2017 community edition
cloud cobalt
No you don't
cloud cobalt
2017 community is perfectly fine for UE4
abstract relic
A bit of vinegar today eh?
grim ore
little salty at people who can't even dedicate a bare minimum amount of time to learning before declaring the world is going to end
pallid compass
Even if you are I'd learn your way around the engine first
cloud cobalt
Can we stop with the personal attacks and saltyness ?
UE4 is hard
Don't help if you don't have the patience
pallid compass
What attacks 9_o
grim ore
tons of people have patience but if someone is not going to listen when asking for help then all bets are off on the saltyness
pallid compass
Are we reading the same convo?
proven oxide
I have been googling and trying stuff out now for 2 weeks
proven oxide
I found something on UMG UI designere and its like nothing and does nothing and is short saying learn here
abstract relic
(Couldnโt help it)
grim ore
did you read the official docs or the official tutorials?
pallid compass
L e a r n
S o m e
B a s I c s
Read the doc
Read the whole thing
Like not even joking
Your trying to skip steps
You need to acquire some foundation then everything will fall in to place
grim ore
I think the idea about learning what the game mode and other framework might be a good suggestion someone suggested earlier and https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Gameplay/Framework is the docs for that
and I think keeping in mind that different people do things different in the engine so finding the one way it is done is probably not going to happen. Learning how the basics work and then making it work for you is ๐
"damn when I hit play my dude spawns in as a purple blob" is easily answered if you know the flow of the game framework and where this might be happening.
cloud cobalt
@proven oxide Just like others said - you're talking about levels, UMG, server browsers at the same time, but each of these is really something that takes a lot of time
Don't attempt everything at once
static viper
you dont only need an inventory
thick herald
@grim ore I knew someone who turned into a purple blob once. It was tragic. He got arrested. Last time I saw him the cops pushed him in the cells saying "indigo"...
grim ore
is that the first dad joke of the day.... lol
static viper
i dont get it
thick herald
I feel the need to use a Firefly reference @grim ore Shepard Book "Never had kids".. lol
grim ore
well today just went to hell... https://www.allegorithmic.com/blog/allegorithmic-joining-adobe-family
grim ore
really a bummer, they were my go to company for referencing how licensing should be done. Always a good deal in my opinion
manic pawn
image above must be a photo of the person at allegorithmic who signed off this deal
vale silo
I see a new stream is happening tomorrow and yet again it's not about AI ๐ฆ
grim ore
it's on a good topic that people ask about atleast, tho I am worried about how much most people will get from it due to how Gameplay Abilities are actually implemented in the engine
I wonder if they take requests for streams? some more complex AI with animations would be neato for sure.
vale silo
they just keep saying "we'll see what we can do" since the times Alex was there 
maybe they feel that Mieszko has to be on the stream and since he is in Poland, it's hard to schedule.. But I think anyone at Epic with decent knowledge of AI (through BPs and BTs) and animation (or one person for AI and one person for anims) could do the stream.
grim ore
I agree but it seems hard to get these things scheduled lately due to people just simply being busy ๐ฆ
vale silo
๐ฆ
grim ore
the bad part is a generalist could do a lot of this but most of them seem to be tasked with helping other companies and such and any new ones end up doing the same lol
vale silo
do you have any near-future plans for AI tutorials @grim ore ?
grim ore
I think the tech devs at epic are in high demand out there
man I wish I could do more with AI but nothing on the plate. Like that animation one is a giant pain because it's animation ๐ฆ
but people really need a good explanation and design for making AI react and move well
vale silo
how about a tutorial where AI flanks player, circles around player while facing player (in both directions, switching at random) ?
no animation needed, can be just a pile of cubes doing that
BT + BP
(using Third Person Character template)
grim ore
gotcha. Yeah generic strategic AI might be doable then. The issue I keep running into is people want to then implement it into a real project and the animation is always wrong lol. but yeah maybe some more intermediate AI systems that are simply reliant on the BT and BP and less on the looking right.
it all goes back to the sensing and perception systems as well which I want to cover but they always seem to not work right or need C++ to work fully ๐ฆ
vale silo
well, AI Perception works without C++ unless you need to attach it to character's head so when character looks around, cone of vision follows.
grim ore
I think you also cant assign like good or bad to things in pure BP?
wait no it's teams you can't assign I think
vale silo
for the tutorial sake you could mention that and accept that for the tutorial sake cone of vision will turn with the controller or pawn (plus there won't be any head anyway)
perhaps, but you can make custom BP Task that decides on the team
grim ore
yep yep.
"in todays video we talk about this system that almost completely works you just have to do other stuff to work around the stuff that doesnt quite work because no one got around to finishing it" lol
bronze cedar
hi guys ๐ ๐ , i am downloading the latest version of UE4, because i want to check that, and my movement is not working in my old version, so i want to check that too haha
pallid compass
Not sure if that's a question or not
abstract relic
Good luck. Hope it doesnโt blow up ๐
bronze cedar
4.19.2 UE4 version, i cannot make my paddle move left and right, this is what i want to say , i have tried so many ways but i cannot move my paddle haha
so that's why i am going to the latest one for checking this movement thing, if it don't work in that version too, than i am doing something wrong
pallid compass
Probably something wrong
abstract relic
Guaranteed itโs something wrong
bronze cedar
but it's so easy in UE4 to make anything go left and right using keyboard
ember shadow
Hey guys im new ๐ , Where do i go if i have a problem with packaging my game?
ember shadow
AH ok thanks!
bronze cedar
what i am doing is , i put a cube, converted it into a mesh, than using pawn BP , and mesh component i was making my paddle go left or right, key binding is done, game mode is done, camera setup is done, what else do i need
abstract relic
Well, you need to have it processed by the player for one
bronze cedar
@abstract relic i did that lots of time, because i understand that repairing something is way better to start from new, time eating if we repair something, this is said when i use to make 3D models
you mean that camera setting, default player (player 0)
abstract relic
Give this a quick look. See if you missed a step https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Gameplay/Framework
bronze cedar
ok thanks , let me check because it might be that i have already seen it
yes i want to ask , is player controller necessary @abstract relic
abstract relic
Always
bronze cedar
omg , than i think i was the wrong person, haha
so i will try and try and try, until i get it working , haha ๐ ๐
thanks @abstract relic for the help, and yes that page is also kinda really good, lots of good information to read ๐ ๐
abstract relic
Read a page from the doc every night before bed. All the cool kids do it ๐
frank escarp
@vale silo literally nothing new in the AI systems for years
what are they going to comment? the BT system is still as its been for a while already
vale silo
@frank escarp well, they still can make proper AI stream that incorporates BTs, custom BP tasks, AI Perception and tying it to the animation. Just like they had that animation stream split into 5 or 6 parts, they should do the same for AI.
even if AI stuff hasn't changed
grim ore
All the cool kids read a page from the doc every night in a different language
proven oxide
๐ฆ
every time i try to play my game in 2 player it crashes the editor any ideas?
i dont understand the crash report
wary wave
it means you find rthat assert in the source code and see what happened
google probably won't help
pallid compass
I meant Google what an assert is
proven oxide
BaseGameMode.cpp
pallid compass
There's no way they can debug that amber
Did u leaned what game mode and game state is yet
proven oxide
problem is another dev runs it fine
proven oxide
meh
abstract relic
I was about to say ๐
pallid compass
Sounds like who ever set it up has set it up wrong
static viper
doesnt have to be mmo right away. maybe its coop
pallid compass
Or you have changed something
pallid compass
Are you using source control
proven oxide
yes
pallid compass
Sounds like the mp system has not been tested at all outside of editor space then
proven oxide
just waiting for VS to restart
there is no MP system, we are using UE4 networking on 7777
proven oxide
i mean wwe havnet programmed anything
pallid compass
With some sort of multiplayer system someone has built
Well mp does not work out the box
proven oxide
using basic listen server
pallid compass
With the exception of the character movement comp
proven oxide
thats what i did
proven oxide
i need to see if someone fiddled with the basegamemode file
pallid compass
To asset on game mode is really something
Either game mode is not setup or
It's full of shit that has problems
Most likely one of them
pallid compass
Well sounds like it might not be turned off properly
proven oxide
there is also this
grim ore
random shit causes random problems. I ran into an issue where a system environment variable on my machine caused visual studio installer to not run.... random shit man.. random shit
proven oxide
[2019.01.23-17.19.00:939][891]LogSpawn: Warning: SpawnActor failed because no class was specified
pallid compass
That's a warning
Not an error
But I can see already the system must be set up like a shit storm
grim ore
I think a good question might be if you are not doing multiplayer then why are you doing multiplayer?
pallid compass
Actor classes not being specified and no checking not good
proven oxide
at the end it just says this
bronze cedar
@abstract relic hahahahaha yes right
proven oxide
[2019.01.23-17.19.25:110][522]LogOutputDevice: Warning:
Script Stack (0 frames):
[2019.01.23-17.19.25:111][522]LogWindows: Windows GetLastError: The operation completed successfully. (0)
pallid compass
That's not the assert
static viper
why dont you just
post the entire log
instead of just chunks
XD
get a pastebin
grim ore
noooo... the spam...
static viper
i said pastebin
grim ore
yeah I was typing before that lol
static viper
i say log
vale silo
oooh, C++
pallid compass
That's not a log
abstract relic
Grab a whip. Find your programmer
proven oxide
thats the line that caused the error assert
static viper
post the log!!!!
vale silo
why not to use Blueprint for now ?
static viper
in a pastebin
grave nebula
Do it on GPU and readback the results if you ask me.
pallid compass
So your catching on a check
Which means MyDetailedMatchState is invalid
Or has some blank state it's sat on
pallid compass
Why is your programmer not helping
proven oxide
I am the programmer
static viper
you are not
proven oxide
the old one quit
proven oxide
can't do it was a toy out the pram situation
pallid compass
U best quit too then
In over your head
That's not meant to be nasty btw
Just from what I can gather you are way in over your head
proven oxide
but if iti was an assert why did the client crash
pallid compass
Because you don't know what an assert is
proven oxide
I mean rather than just the game shut down the whole editor crashed
pallid compass
That's the whole point
Who ever put that in there was smart
It caught an edge case
vale silo
that's why I stay away from C++ currently - if I have a programmer and (s)he quits, I can fix/add Blueprint code myself ๐
(unless existing BP code is from that Thumblr)
grim ore
C++ is the bestest. Its 100 million times faster than blueprints and it has all those cool semi colons
vale silo
that's definitely a strong side of it, but I have to compromise
grim ore
but the colons.... the colons.... you can't resist the semi colon!
man I really hope they push in the UMG -> Editor Utility stuff in 4.22
vale silo
there is a lot of hopes for 4.22, but 4.21.2 hotfix now needs hot-hot fix #2
pallid compass
Yup checks are good
proven oxide
hmmm there is one underlined line that was a change by the other guy
7 days ago
it was missing an include apparently
engine/World.h
nope still crashes, it goes into the game but doesnt spawn the player and then crashes
cloud cobalt
What's the call stack ?
proven oxide
there are load errors on the map missing textures apparently
pallid compass
Fam u are x100 in over Ur head
cloud cobalt
Unlikely to be the cause of a crash
proven oxide
and an error in a BP which i have solved multiple times (not using it anyway)
cloud cobalt
You need the call stack
In Visual, while debugging
If you're the programmer, this is your job
proven oxide
but also it just says Network Failure GameNetDriver[Failure Received] host closed connection
cloud cobalt
That's not really an error
pallid compass
Ignore everything after crash
proven oxide
<PCallStack>UE4Editor-Engine 0x00000000d8210000 + 14ed700 UE4Editor-Engine 0x00000000d8210000 + bb8470 UE4Editor-UnrealEd 0x00000000d63a0000 + 452085 UE4Editor-UnrealEd 0x00000000d63a0000 + d72346 UE4Editor 0x000000005dc40000 + 6225 UE4Editor 0x000000005dc40000 + 1596c UE4Editor 0x000000005dc40000 + 159ea UE4Editor 0x000000005dc40000 + 248da UE4Editor 0x000000005dc40000 + 2659a KERNEL32 0x0000000057d70000 + 17e94 ntdll 0x000000005a0b0000 + 6a251</PCallStack>
abstract relic
Noooooo
proven oxide
which log i did the whole crashxml
fierce tulip
and paste it into pastebin, if you spam that whole log here we might not be so nice :p
cloud cobalt
Yeah I did say pastebin, we don't want mods to start banning people
I mean, not all of them
Probably
cloud cobalt
No crash here @proven oxide
abstract relic
The best solution is to delete everything afterall
proven oxide
thats the file in the crash folder
cloud cobalt
This looks like the client log when the server crashed
proven oxide
only other thing i have is the minidump
cloud cobalt
Seriously though
Start the game in Visual
Wait for crash
Get the call stack ๐คท
This is the only way to work out crashes
If it's in your code you'll get the error down to the line
If not you'll at least know wtf happened
Debugging is as simple as a right click on your project in the solution, "set as startup project", F5
proven oxide
how do i get the call stack the editor just closes
cloud cobalt
Then press F5, or the green arrow in the VS toolbar
With the editor closed, since this will relaunch it from VS
You should install the "Editor symbols" package from the engine options in launcher, to get accurate data from engine crashes
It's a 10-20GB download but it's basically required
cloud cobalt
Might be a hot reload error
proven oxide
but i cant get them talking ot each other so thats another issue
but at least the editor is no longer crashing
it deleeted a load of old dlls and pdbs
pallid compass
Have fun stranger :p
cloud cobalt
Deleting DLLs and PDBs is normal - that's hot reload stuff
Most people would advise to not use it
It's safer to close editor, build, and relaunch
When you're just changing a .cpp it's usually safe, but it's not safe when touching UPROPRY() related stuff
And will usually crash or fuck Bluepritns up
proven oxide
anyway that worked thanks for at least stoping the editor from crashing
cloud cobalt
Just take it slow and patient
untold snow
Hey, does anybody have any material on getting started with using third party APIs? Im looking into making a location-based game like Pokemon Go and have located the APIs I needed, but I have no experience working with them before or have any idea to get them to work with the engine. I attempted to do my own research but have been unable to find any of the answers I am looking for. Thanks in advance!
true leaf
I just use vaRest to read and write to my own centralized rails api server
grim ore
^
gleaming narwhal
@@untold snow I believe most of these are exposed to blueprint as well https://api.unrealengine.com/INT/BlueprintAPI/Services/Mobile/Location/index.html
true leaf
Using GET and POST rest api
Super nice... Easy
New version of rails has an --api only mode
untold snow
Oh man I had no idea about these. Thank you!
glacial pecan
how do I get the import options window back on reimport?
fierce tulip
need to enable it in editor settings
very weird choice to add that option and set it to true as its standard config
glacial pecan
know the name? I'm searching for import but didn't see one that fit, and now I'm going through the list
fierce tulip
general misc "show import dialog"
glacial pecan
yes, found it just as you wrote it ๐
weird that search didn't pop it up
ohh, it did...
blame it on dyslexia
@fierce tulip thanks!
fierce tulip
np
tribal pebble
does anyone know about a Ue4 TPS Free Multiplayer template?
misty stone
there's a playlist of tutorials that I can link if that's helpful to you?
tribal pebble
i mean maybe , i found Unity5 has a new FPS free multiplayer working template ,its just i suck at unity
tribal pebble
@misty stone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDX_NBGJ2xM
lemme check
wait does the one u sent me work as a hero shooter? i don't intend to have characters switch weapon i intend to have the weapon be part of the mesh and animation of the character , like Knives or Scepters
@misty stone i'm trying to cut corners here , having weapon and character be separate is too much for me lol , i'd just rather have them be part of the same thing just have animation blending for upper bones and boom , shooting while walking
tribal pebble
fug
grim ore
the shooter game sample from the learn tab is shooter enough? Should be able to turn those into TPS characters without much issue and that is a good base
gleaming creek
Now I'm going to be sad every time I'm painting a model
tribal pebble
why? @gleaming creek
@grim ore learn tab?
the one from where ue4 starts?
it has no multiplayer >_>
gleaming creek
The earlier part about Substance Painter's Allegorithmic having sold their company off
ember shadow
Anyone wanna test my short game?
tribal pebble
sure? ๐
gleaming creek
That wasn't in relation to your question
Just in relation to reading 17 pages of negative responses on the Allegorithmic forums
tribal pebble
what happened D: ?
grim ore
you know you might be right @tribal pebble , I always assumed since it had bots and looked like it was set up for multiplayer it had support for it ๐ฆ
true leaf
I didn't even know what substance painter was now I'm sad lol
tribal pebble
ye i'm just tryina make something for fun , for me and my friends to make funny videos on lol @grim ore nothing serious ,so the Unity project would be great for me to add my characters ,its ,just everytime i see code ,i die inside a lil bit
unity is scary its like the monster under the bed for me lol
true leaf
But this is unreal. ๐
grim ore
It's scary but it's no worse than any other engine or language in the end
tribal pebble
true ,but admit blueprints are more approcheable
its like a grandma with a sweet cake
u know its gonna take a while to get those pounds off
grim ore
you might have to find a marketplace asset if you want a leg up
tribal pebble
but its good!
s'all so pricy and basic
i would go on a loss on doing an asset flip over there lol expecially since i don't even wanna sell
grim ore
well considering Unity didn't have a template like this until now, give Epic a few years to catch up ๐
tribal pebble
true that!
grim ore
now that I think about it, I wonder how many multiplayer ready examples epic actually has out
tribal pebble
wait can i see it?
true leaf
All because you buy assets doesn't mean you are asset flipping ... Just make really good gameplay ๐. Unreal has lots of small demos
The multiplayer one has two orange cowboys
It's in the launcher I think
grim ore
yeah it's not the best but I think it's the only MP one
ok now I am bummed out that the one I thought would be MP was not, the shooter game lol
tribal pebble
ye but why would i be spending money to make a meme game with models from a freetoplay game that bored us now but they can't stop making videos on it cuz its the thing that makes them money lol @true leaf
true leaf
Well you can either spend time or money
tribal pebble
i mean dass sad cuz multiplayer is pretty usefull to learn and have examples
true leaf
Or use free assets ! Lots of those around
grim ore
ok so there is a complete multiplayer learn series on YT but it has no gameplay soo.... there is that I guess lol
true leaf
You are trying to make something like GMod ?
tribal pebble
gmod?
i mean kinda
something like a Third/first person shooter meme game
where i just use characters from a game
that is not a shooter
and make it into a shooter LOL
true leaf
Gameplay is easy just write logic in a Game instance /Game state
tribal pebble
using their animations and abilities so no extra weapons
grim ore
multiplayer is the devil for trying to learn and teach... the literal devil from hell with the horns and all that stuff just poking at you making you suffer while you do it.
true leaf
Okay interesting . Yes that's true ^^
tribal pebble
LOL
grim ore
the bad part is UE4 makes it seem simple, I mean boom 3rd person template and you can hit play and people can all run around eachother but then you go "hey I want to make something happen" and you are dead on the floor bleeding in your office.
true leaf
Also open endedness is also the devil , define your scope. Doing a bullet Ray trace for multiplayer isn't too bad..... Basically when a client clicks their mouse it sends a 'Shoot request' custom event replicated to the server .. then the server does a Ray trace using that characters transform and changes stats of the actor that was hit... And that actor and it's stats are auto replicated
grim ore
'But all I wanted to do was shoot something in multiplayer" is how many people ended up in the crazy asylum
true leaf
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grim ore
then hell for fun toss in UI replication and you might as well just commit yourself if your family doesn't
true leaf
Yeah it's not easy but after you 'get it' it's like riding a bike
grim ore
and this isn't the hard stuff. yeah getting your head around replication and replication and even replication is what matters.
"make sure all the animations are in sync for everyone at all times"
and let's use IK for fun
grim ore
nah we just want to make sure you know it's not like a light switch where you turn it on and boom multiplayer. Networking is actual work to make it all work lol
and I would say most of the work is just learning how multiplayer works and should work
tribal pebble
well ye i've seen someone do it,its like u put some checks , like a node that checks for the value
grim ore
It mainly just depends on what it is and what you are doing and how you want to do it.... lol. like making the same thing the same thing on everyone's screen varies depending on the thing and who owns the thing and who is saying to change the thing heh
like a variable in the game mode? nope only server has access to that... uhm.. the color of a cube? sure who owns the cube and who is trying to change it and who should see the color changed? make code for all those possibilities!
next sierra
hello unreal dudes. I have a question about camera modifier. I have a custom modifier that offsets the location and rotation of the camera. it works well when I apply it to the CameraManager but I would like for it to blend in and out. I have set the "Alpha In Time" and "Alpha Out Time" in the class defaults but I can't figure out where it uses these options. I have tried adding/removing and also enabling/disabling the modifier via the manager. any tips?
dry moon
how are people enjoying speedtree 8.3?
rancid verge
Is there anyone in here to talk about unreal studio cad data imports
grim ore
so epic bought out 2 companies today and are collaborating with a mobile app firm. Can we guess what is next lol
safe rose
nothing because so far (over the past year/two), the companies they have bought out haven't produced anything
unreal spoke
How to get the screen position of a 3d location? I know I've done it before but cannot remember or find it.
found it, Project world location to widget position
crisp fable
anyone know why i'm getting global 'failed to reimport' messages across my project?
when reimporting static meshes
patent junco
@crisp fable did you happen to rename the part(s) that aren't reimporting?
crisp fable
nah
just tried it again with a box mesh
import, reimport
nothing in the log
ill check it out more later cause im doing this for a meeting in 2 hours ๐ฌ
i also found a bug which ill report later ๐
calling World->SetNewWorldOrigin in world settings PostLoad causes a crash because the worlds scene isnt initialized yet
what the flanders
i found it, the point cloud plugin is trying to reimport my mesh. i dont get it.
its not even april fools
upper iris
how?!?!?!
they use a spline for the road but the has a groove going through it
but the surrounding surface uses a single static mesh.. i literally dont get it...
theres are no seems... its like they built one big static mesh for the floor....
please anyone if you know how they did it ,could you please help me
crisp fable
what game
upper iris
days of war
crisp fable
yeah its 100% a mesh
and the seams are from baking the normals from adjacent meshes
not auto-calculating them
a cheap way is to just have them all pointing up
upper iris
i just cant seem to replicate it...
theres no static mesh running underneath the road either..
novel ember
Why would a velocity vector print string its value correctly but If nodes not work correctly?
I'm trying to check if the player's Z-velocity is negative / they're falling (I can't use IsFalling because a lot of my movement stuff is custom) and print stringing outputs negative values, but bool nodes aren't treating it like that
nvm
umbral tartan
Where is a project's "Default Engine" setting stored/set?
Checked DefaultEngine.ini and MyProject.uproject, but it doesn't look like any engine is specified in either.
manic pawn
baseengine.ini probably
umbral tartan
@manic pawn
Thx! So, if I have no baseengine.ini anywhere in the project folder, that'd be a problem, yeah?
manic pawn
it's in the engine folder
dim arch
@novel ember have you tried turning it on and off again
I got a few bugs with vars returning values in BP
If nodes usually work though..
umbral tartan
@manic pawn Interesting. So the engine's baseengine.ini specifies what project's launch with it?
Doesn't look like any project's names are specified in BaseEngine.ini. For me.
manic pawn
ehh what do you mean what project?
umbral tartan
Ah sorry, I mean "which projects launch with it".
I built a custom engine for 4.21. Uploaded a project to bb on a diff machine, but I forgot which engine I created it for.
Downloaded that project. Now I want to see which engine it was created for, to see if I need to convert it.
It doesnt look like "compatible projects" are listed in an engine's baseengine.ini.
manic pawn
the engine association is stored in the uproject file
for custom builds it'll be a guid
coral shoal
Is there an easy way to have a 3d widget in the world display in front of everything? Normally i would look into custom scene depth, but UI materials don't have a scene depth pin
next badger
the point of a 3d widget is being rendered in 3d
i.e. if it's in front of something and positioned somewhere in space behind any other element it makes no sense, especially in vr
steady owl
@grim ore shootergame IS most definitely multiplayer
Whoever told you it isnโt is very wrong
The whole point of it is a fully working multiplayer demo even with demo recordings
next badger
@coral shoal closest point in 3d space is camera near clipping plane, you could place widget there
next badger
@midnight wigeon read the pinned message there
coral shoal
The idea would be to have the 3d widget be in a position in the world with shear, skew and all the stuff that results (without having to do tons of math to reproduce it) but also sometimes appear through geometry
if that's not easy/possible understood, though
midnight wigeon
Quick question
coral shoal
Also alexey, there's actually a lot of VR stuff that does exactly that, but it uses an overlay/stereo layer to make sure the widget always appears in front
which is kind of something different
and not a thing for non-vr games
midnight wigeon
If you were dev , How much money would u want on the average for a job?
cursive dirge
depends totally on the job description and the location
more responsibilities, more pay, what's much in some countries can be something ridiculously low on other
next badger
@plush yew -90 ?
cursive dirge
can't you just.. try it out? ๐
next badger
looks like one of those questions on interview
next badger
@midnight wigeon for what? assets, level, logic?
next badger
is level made from scratch, or uses premade assets?
midnight wigeon
Scratch
next badger
what average poly budget, does assets had to have LODs?
what target platforms? what graphics style?
next badger
@midnight wigeon 80K? that's a good salary in many countries
midnight wigeon
LOL
next badger
annual i mean
midnight wigeon
Oofie
How would u even promote the game
To me the only way to promote through social media
But that really doesnt always work
next badger
social media is a good way, then comes influencers, like twitch streamers and youtubers
next badger
Epic also helping to promote games that are published on Epic Store
midnight wigeon
I would end up paying like 1,000 Dollars for all Devs Combined
Oofie
Gotta save up
:D
next badger
most people here are not paying money to "make game", they are requesting particular tasks
next badger
well, you could see the amount of request on #looking-for-talent
i'm taking jobs there from time to time
next badger
it's not a job, it's called Volunteering, i'd rather spend time on my own projects
midnight wigeon
Exactly
Unless u getting paid
holds hand up for high five
๐ค
Gets Denied
:(
plush yew
What would cause me to have to recompile all the shaders in my game?
next badger
@plush yew changing the shader model as example (SM5 to ES2 etc)
next badger
@plush yew use scene capture instead
plush yew
How? Project settings
plush yew
Should I just turn off planar reflections?
next badger
i recommend to...but you may ask on #graphics or #visual-fx
Screen Space Reflections (SSR) are much more efficient than Planar Reflections when it comes to rendering, but are also much less reliable.The image comparison below shows the limits of SSR versus Planar Reflections.
from https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Engine/Rendering/LightingAndShadows/PlanarReflections
ivory crag
having trouble with my gamemode blueprint. when i make one deriving from gamemodebase, i don't posses my char, when i derive from gamemode, i posses my char but can't move him
the playercontroller is properly receiving inputs
next badger
@ivory crag probably cause bStartPlayersAsSpectators in AGameModeBase is set to true
ivory crag
how do i change that in bp
i can't set it, i can only get it
@next badger
if you've got a sec i think you'd be able to fix this quickly if we hopped in a call and i screen shared
it's something with the gamestate or gamemode
quaint rune
Hey guys can I ask a question? I am developing an solo fun project that take place in italy during 1943-45.
In your opinion I have to take care about world fascism law or I can just put a 18+ on my game? (If I ever release it)
tall pendant
world fascism law? ๐ค
next badger
@ivory crag maybe the issue with movement component, you may ask on #blueprint
ivory crag
i did, nobody responded
and the character now just isn't spawning
i can place him in the world, or place a spawn point, and he just gets deleted @next badger
quaint rune
Yeah for example in Italy is against rule the reconstruction of fascist party etc etc but on videogames there arenโt any problem, as well in Germany with nazi symbol
But idk i was just asking
spare sun
country-specific
quaint rune
Oh so i can set the country where I want to release it?
next badger
yeah, i believe it's per country law...
ue4 has tools for localization
tall pendant
You can create Art which has a historical background tho. As long as it's not promoting facism to be something super awesome you don't have to worry about it.
even in Germany we are allowed to do it this way ..since recent law changes
next badger
yeah, in Russia swastika is also allowed (it was not for some time)
spare sun
wouldnt count on Russian segment being the primary source of income though
ivory crag
I have character placed in my world, when i start playing, my camera jumps to a random position and either destroys the character, or has him fall for a few seconds then destroys him
abstract relic
Check the basic first. Do you have your game mode, controller, etc set up. For the auto destruct, go to world setting and find z... something. Thereโs a set boundary that destroys pawns that touches it if youโve used the default startup.
ivory crag
yes to the first part, auto destruct fixed, thanks for the help
still not spawning where i want him though
novel spire
Is it possible to stop blueprint editor from displaying my variable "Apple_Pear" as "Apple Pear"?
dry moon
I'm just glad kanye is making video games
proven oxide
here is a question and a half, I have googled and looked at tutorials and i cannot see what i am looking for,.
i have a material with 2 textures, 1 which is a bullet hole (opacity channel) and the glowing metal from the emmisive channel,
how can i make the emissive fade over time? there is no tick available in the material so how should it be done?
@ivory crag have you placed a player start in the map?
proven oxide
on our one we have 2 different ones
the editor play uses one the actual game uses the other
dry moon
Its best to fade it through blueprints so you know when to delete the actor as well
proven oxide
we are using it as a decal
it dies after 30 seconds but we want the glow to go after 5
dry moon
Yeah decals do have a cost that you'd want to delete if you having bunch of players shooting them causing mass amount of them
proven oxide
gub, ok we have a player start instance which is used by the editor play when we play the level directly PIE
We also have a NetworkPlayerStart for when entering through the menu
glacial otter
@proven oxide You can use the "Time" node in the material editor.
dry moon
and when with blueprints, it'll be per instance of the decal. If you control it through material, it'll fade all of them at once unless you do some complex material
which just isn't worth it
proven oxide
its a bullet hole
dry moon
Yeah
proven oxide
I am also having problems with randomly selecting one of 4
i have a U and V offset either 0 or 1
but i cannot work out how to randomise it
you would have thought that they would have something in the system for this
dry moon
so when you shoot it, put it into a pool in the actor that shot it and use that actor to tick the timer to make it fade
dry moon
Yeah its best way to keep track of what caused what, and you have them all in one place to clean them all as well
dry moon
Well you won't need to, just use the parent actor that shot it (player) and use its tick for it
and then use the material instance float thingy (I'm tired so not remembering the name) to modify the value of the glow
proven oxide
but 2 decals
but nice idea limit the number of decals per player
so if they shoot 100 decals the 101st deletes the first one
dry moon
Yeah exactly that
dry moon
and its called Set Scalar Parameter Value node
proven oxide
thanks
dry moon
so you can have a scalar on the material scalled emissiveamount, 5 for instinace
ivory crag
@abstract relic you have saved me thank you so much the kill Z fixed it, you are the best thank you so much <3<3<3 i have been stuck for 2 days and now i feel dumb but thank you thank you thank you
dry moon
and then through blueprint, just use deltatime to slowly lower the value with a clamp of 0
Though you can just use a Timer event so it ticks far less to gain more performance instead of ticking it every frame
You'll just need to look into that
proven oxide
๐ฆ
i tried to watch a tutorial - video removed because user closed their account
how do you make animations keyed to opacity?
ok i have an animation but its not doing anything
how do i make the animation run in the BP?
and the tutorial menu looks nothing like the one i am seeing so i guess its for a prior engine version
Tutorials are so helpful all it says in the how to do animations tutorial is this In the widget Timeline, create an Events track with a Key, and an Animation
HOW!!!!!
i have an events track but how to add a bloomin key
i have my animation track with key already but i cant work out how to link it to the event
ok trying to trigger my animation crashed the editor
ok i am having problems recompiling
1>UnrealBuildTool : error : Unable to delete F:\Development\UnrealGhosts\Intermediate\Build\Win64\UE4Editor\Inc (Access to the path 'BaseCharacter.generated.h' is denied.)
fleet cedar
So I've been working on this vehicle movement component for way to long now and it's finally starting to come together
It's all done without simulating physics which I'm really happy with, I just need to add jumping and drifting and then squash the 1000 bugs I've got
proven oxide
yep for some reason i cant even clean the source
fleet cedar
@proven oxide did you say you've got a timeline in a widget?
fleet cedar
If I remember correctly, that's not allowed, at least in the blueprints of widgets
proven oxide
i had the animation in but the animation didnt trigger
fleet cedar
Or at least it doesn't pop up when you search for it
proven oxide
there is a playanimation func
and it created a sequence(0)
but then my editor crashed and I have lost it all
so i have just closed everything and am just loading up the VS and trying a clean solution
is there any details of the network data that UE4 sends or do i have to manually construct my packets if i want to interface with non UE4 server
cloud cobalt
If you want to interface a non-UE4 server you'll basically need to implement your own networking from scratch, starting from UDP
proven oxide
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cloud cobalt
It's not just about the protocol, UE4 networking works by having both server and clients run the same game entirely, including the level, physics, collision, etc
The server just doesn't display his game or process inputs
Other than that it's the full game
proven oxide
we just want it to be a level playing field and running inside docker - UE4 standalone server cannot do that as far as i know
cloud cobalt
Run inside Docker ?
proven oxide
yes so running on a linux box, when the auth/lobby server asks for a new instance it would spin up a docker instance to connect the clients to
keen frigate
Morning ladies and gents ๐
cloud cobalt
Doing this would require your own online stack too
You can't exactly plug yourself into the Steam online subsystem, for example, and detect someone needs a server
What you can do is have all of your game servers report their player counts every few seconds to some server, observe how many empty slots are available, and depending on that, start new servers
I don't see why you couldn't do that, Docket or not
It's also 100x easier than doing your own server engine
If all else fails, there are quite a few existing solutions too, like SpatialOS or that Gamesparks stuff
proven oxide
basically docker is lightweight VM that you can run an application in seconds
cloud cobalt
Yeah I know what Docker is, just not sure why you couldn't use it
proven oxide
doesnt UE4 only run on windows - i mean it compiles dlls
proven oxide
the only option i have is bake for windows
soft crescent
yeah you need to compile the game on those os's
proven oxide
i dont have a linux box to use it on
and i am not going to install it on an azure / AWS instance just to compile
cloud cobalt
UE4 can definitely be compiled for Linux
Look it up
The recommended process to build is on Windows though
proven oxide
Well i am gonna start a new project and just play around for a bit, work out what i am doing
next badger
UE4 even could be compiled for ARM Linux
proven oxide
ok first problem
I am trying to change the skydome but it will not let me edit the skysphereblueprint
how do i edit it?
next badger
isnt sky sphere bp called BP_Sky_Sphere?
proven oxide
yep but its in the engine and is uneditable and i cant work out how to replace it
World settings will not allow change
pearl idol
Hey guys! Anyone knows how is working Localized Assets?
next badger
@proven oxide world settings are not related to sky sphere...as for sky sphere bp, you should be able to edit it, maybe it's read only file or something...if you want to make other version you could make a child class, it will replace the existing bp to a new one
or you could copy the original BP and replace it in the scene
obsidian rain
anybody have any experience with projectile collisions on characters i've found a bunch of different approaches to the problem. I still don't want to jump into it until i know which ones best for me. I'm looking for something that lets me at least have headshots and a fairly accurate mesh shot rather then the basic capsule usually i just pickup something from the market place as i cut corners and learn but there was nothing of any value for this.
next badger
@obsidian rain you could get a hit result and then get a bone name from it, then judge based on that
obsidian rain
that actually sounds good saves me messing with hitboxes
trying to read about raytracing to see if i should scrap the projectile system and use that
dont think i'll start anything til tomorrow just wanna absorb as much on it as i can and make sure whatever i build i dont have to bin and start over haha
oblique sorrel
I'm writing my thesis on making games vith visual scripting languages, using BPs as an example.
Thing is, it's rather hard to fit screenshots of the graphs on an A4, width-wise. What do you think the best course of action would be? Cutting them into pieces? Scaling down and hoping noone will try to read them?
graceful sky
Cut into pieces usually works fine,as long as you cut on places that makes sense