@wicked radish basically what you do is you look up the member function you want to call, GetOwner() for example. then you google that and you find the https://api.unrealengine.com/INT/API/Runtime/Engine/GameFramework/AActor/index.html api reference and see it needs GameFramework/Actor.h
#ue4-general
plush yew
wary wave
eh, I'm on an i7-4790k, it's not exactly slow
wicked radish
Yeah gothic its included and then will reparse but still gives me fake errors
plush yew
i had the 4790k. was a good cost optimized buy when i bought it. im on a 5960x now 😛i sort of wish i had the 1950x. and i am strongly considering parting out my machine for that soon.
wicked radish
OpenDoor is a c++ component I made and gave to a door btw. But regardless of completed parsing I then get the Cannot initialize object parameter of type 'const UActorComponent' with an expression of type 'const UOpenDoor' error once it finishes parsing. regardless of the fact it can still compile
sorry im reiterating myself im just praying I can describe an error someone understands and have a magic fix lmao. a man can dream...
I get that on GetOwner() btw
plush yew
@wicked radish are you using the udemy course by ben? because he goes thru the IWYU pipeline there. also if you try to post the detail of the error in #cpp then you might get some feedback. if i were you i would keep at it. don't give up unreal dev because of this issue
wicked radish
Yes I am!
One of the reasons I dont want to give up is because of this interaction right here btw, a community very willing to help
thanks so much ill go post more about the issue there.
high stone
I have plans. Plans muwhahaha.
plush yew
did you import your multi faceted objects into UE yet without an issue?
stoic dew
quick question. how do I add collision to a model in my level?
high stone
I'm rendering another project atm. Should be done this week.
stoic dew
i added a sphere collider and the ship from the flying example flies right thorugh it
high stone
There should be a toggle in the UE engine. YT should show where it is in the level editor.
stoic dew
does simulate physics have to be checked?
plush yew
@stoic dew you add collision after importing your FBX into unreal or by creating the UCX collision mesh in an external program like 3ds max and then import everything as one FBX into UE in addition here is a link https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Engine/Content/Types/StaticMeshes/HowTo/SettingCollision that menu is on the collision tab in the static mesh asset in UE in the image . for custom collision, use Dean Asphords tut at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxVFChB3oxY . once you have created the collision you want to set the collision type in the details -> collision -> collision type : to block all overlap all or nocollision as some main examples. block is to prevent passage, overlap is usually used for events like powerups or on actor overlap for weapons like missiles, and nocollision is when you dont want any interaction with any object and things pass through it.
high stone
Yep, there it is.
stoic dew
@plush yew Alright i will give this a look now. I was trying to do this by adding components to the object after it was in level editor view. thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
Yep that did it
Thanks a lot!
bleak copper
@wary wave Have you set the Intellisense editor to use precompiled headers? Helped me a lot.
(re: Intellisense slow in C++)
wary wave
yeah, still slow though
earnest pawn
Hey can someone explain something to me
Does the server send updates to the client every tick?
bleak copper
Nope.
earnest pawn
So can you like 60 ‘fps’ on the server but make it only send updates to the client at 30hz?
If so where do I change it?
last loom
where should we talk about the GameJam? Don't wanna spam but I got started with mine 😄
maiden swift
@last loom #game-jam-chat
last loom
thanks!
bleak copper
Heh. I haven't participated in one in a while. Last one I submitted something for was the first megajam. It was about a jar of jelly. I called it my Game Jam Game, Jam Game.
earnest pawn
@bleak copper I don’t really know how to explain this so I will tell you what I’m trying to do
bleak copper
@earnest pawn I've actually been using another engine for a while so my memory's foggy... best to address it to everyone. Not just me.
(Helping another project that's using a different engine.)
earnest pawn
Ok
I’m have bullets with travel time and instead of using projectiles, I’m using line traces since my bullets are really fast moving and sometimes the collision doesn’t work properly
So when I fire, I add the bullet to a TArray which tracks each players bullets
So each tick I check how far each bullet should have travelled using the delta time in the tick and how much bullet drop there should be
I have really high speeds
Collision doesn’t work properly sometimes and I have bullet penetration which uses Ray cast so I thought might as well use ray cast for all of it
wispy plume
excuse me, im having troubles identifying where i should plug a "concavity" texture map i got sent for a 3d model material. I dont think ive heard that term before
is that another way to call the roughness?
it had a normal map correctly named, so i imagine it isnt that one
grim sinew
It's a map for when you're editing textures, not something that has a regular use.
wispy plume
the files are: base color, AO, normal, smoothness, specular, and concavity
i got it from sketchfab
grim sinew
Wrong PBR model, it won't work in Unreal.
Smoothness/specular is Spec/Gloss PBR
Not Metal/Rough PBR
Specular is, let me guess, full color instead of greyscale?
grim sinew
Not what I asked, the picture itself outside of Unreal, what is it
If it's still full grey outside of Unreal, you lucked out, you can just invert smoothness to get roughness
earnest pawn
@limpid star does projectiles using tick to do physics as well?
wispy plume
this is the folder outside
grim sinew
Okay, this is easy then. Invert the smoothness in photoshop or whatever to get roughness, ignore specular and concavity, and plug in the rest.
earnest pawn
At 800 m/s
That’s why I was using raycast cause someone said it would perform better than projectiles as welll, otherwise I have to implement object pooling
With the method I’m using. It’s working fine now since Its only a small distance each time
And bullet penetration is really difficult with just using projectiles because I have lag compensation as well
Anyway, continuing about the issue I need help with
Basically the delta time determines how far the ‘bullet’ travels each tick
So let’s say I had 1fps right, then after a second I would have just one straight line that shows where the bullet ended up when it was affected by gravity
But if I had a FPS of 60 then that line would be broken into 60 segments and it would be more like a curve, which still shows the projectile trajectory but it would be more accurate
Continuous collision detection right?
And it only helps with blocking hits
worthy jungle
hey gang, got a bit of newb question. whats up with pivots? specifically, when i use this system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1h5mMviSKs&t=8s i can set pivots fine in editor. i can get them to 'stay' etc. but when i then animate that object in Cinema or BP, it rotates from center of bounding box and ignores my pivot. Any help/clues greatly appreciated!
earnest pawn
Even then when I have 2 hit boxes around the same position, it ignores the one behind the first one
worthy jungle
@limpid star okay, that was my drop-back-and-punt solution thanks
earnest pawn
So I just gave up after trying for like a week
worthy jungle
i did go back to DCC and tried taht but still no love. its like it insists on animating from center of bounding box
earnest pawn
Ok but how do I know how far the projectile should have travelled?
In my game people can shoot through wood and really thin walls
So if the projectile hits the wall, how do I know how far I should do my in trace for?
Linetrace*
plush yew
i usually have the end hit for line traces very far for test hits
then if the hit has been detected -> do some action
preserving hit location etc
ah yeah if you are doing ballistics stuff you gotta add in some math for that, true
there's a nice MP plugin for ballistics by the way Chaos.. friend of mine made it
bullet projectiles etc. won't give the name, but it's on there.
earnest pawn
I can’t explain this properly, tomorrow morning I’ll send draw a diagram and send it
earnest pawn
Btw I tried one of those plugins that said bullet penetration
plush yew
kind of why we're alive as humans really. to try new things every day.
earnest pawn
But the bullets would go in complete different angles sometimes
Don’t know if it was meant to used with multiplayer or I didn’t set up something properly
plush yew
i know the one i referred to was multi ready with repped code
let me DM you the link, hold on.
steady hinge
Does anyone have an idea why my sphere trace returns a 'hit' with everything except the npcs that are walking around my scene?
I am sure I just forgot to change one setting somewhere...
earnest pawn
Btw back my first question, how do I set the tick rate on the server (FPS) and the MAX server send tick rate
plush yew
@steady hinge you might have forgotten to tag the NPC blueprint actors if you are hitting based on tags?
earnest pawn
Yeah but I still want to try it but I don’t want the sever to send data to client at like 60 HZ
steady hinge
I'm just doing sphere trace by channel.
I have the 'draw debug' on so I can see when it gives me a hit or not.
stoic dew
So I have a small little scene in space that I want to make astroids fly through. Is this something I can do by messing around with gravity settings or do I need to do some coding for it?
steady hinge
It picks up and other overlap besides the characters that are moving.
I personally would make the asteroids a simple blueprint.
plush yew
@steady hinge might want to look at this area of the collision for the static meshes - make sure the trace is enabled
stoic dew
What would be the method name to add the force to them? In unity you get AddForce which takes a vector3 of the force you want to apply to said object.
steady hinge
Projectile Movement Component
stoic dew
Thank you
steady hinge
Probably a lot of other things that you can do as well, that's just the first one that popped into my head.
stoic dew
Seems to be a pretty good suggestion . So what I did was is I selected my astroid model in the world outiner, then clicked the add blueprint in the details window it opened up the blueprint editor and I added the projectiled movement component adjusted the settings and compiled the blueprint, did I miss anything or is that all I got to do? Have not used them yet.
steady hinge
Hit play and see if they move.
stoic dew
Yeah it is working for the most part just have to play with the settings some cause it stops moving after some time.
strange sapphire
I'm just going to use the vehicle preset, change the car mesh to a chair, make a new map and share my game with others
steady hinge
Every time I talk to this NPC he catches on fire.
grim sinew
That sounds like a feature
wicked radish
Hey just wanted to thank @wary wave and @plush yew for the help earlier. Switching to CLion on Mac (trial version) has good auto complete!
vivid girder
You guys ever use Vertex painting?
grim sinew
All the time.
vivid girder
Get errors a lot?
grim sinew
Not once
plush yew
@wicked radish stick with your journey!
steady hinge
I've been using vertex painting since Unreal 3...
grim sinew
Oh at LOD levels. You need to make manual LODs or just not use LODs to avoid that.
grim sinew
Yeah those are just warnings. Don't LOD vertex painted stuff.
Nope
Manual lods, so you have verts where you need it.
vivid girder
oh noooooo
wary wave
kinda makes sense when you think about it, hehe
grim sinew
Otherwise, how can it keep the consistent look?
steady hinge
I realized that my sphere trace wasn't picking up the npc, because the npc is using an invisible capsule collision box, and I was doing 'trace by visibility'.
grim sinew
^Yep
So if you need to vertex paint a mesh with LODs, you manually make the lower LOD levels to preserve key points on the mesh where you used the paint, or you just don't use LODs at all on that mesh.
vivid girder
So we can paint on each LOD to avoid that issue?
wary wave
no, each LOD has the same geometry where you're painting, or you don't use LODs
grim sinew
No, it'll project the paint for you, you just need to manually build the LOD meshes.
vivid girder
cause manual lod's probably will be too much of a workflow change
vivid girder
or we just keep the warnings?
plush yew
Who was alive when UT 99 came out
steady hinge
Every person on here.
wary wave
probably not everyone
plush yew
you think so?
wary wave
I reckon there are quite a few people on here who are 18 or younger D:
grim sinew
You can keep the warnings, but there will be a visible pop between LODs since it just doesn't have enough data for it.
steady hinge
If I was a betting man I would put my money on everyone.
grim sinew
It'll make the LOD transition even more ugly than usual
vivid girder
I'm curious why painting on each LOD doesn't fix it?
plush yew
what would you say is median age on here
vivid girder
didn't understand the explanation
wary wave
median age is probably mid 20s
vivid girder
Wouldn't they have vertices specific to their LOD level
plush yew
you'd think so
steady hinge
Should I put out the fire that is killing my npc, or just leave it?
plush yew
and the high range?
wary wave
upper limit is harder to say, I think one or two people are in their 50s
plush yew
oh
steady hinge
I remember Unreal Tournament 1899...
Anyways, do you think I should use a behavior tree for my npcs?
Right now I just want them to walk around and stop walking when I talk to them.
wary wave
behaviour trees would work fine for that
steady hinge
Best thing to do in the long run?
wary wave
unless you need very high volumes of NPCs or particularly complex behaviours, you're probably fine with trees
steady hinge
Ok, I'll just go with that.
steady hinge
These will eventually become the people living in the town. I am going to be giving them paths to walk around and do their daily activities.
Then when the player talks to them through a sphere trace and a blueprint interface, it will pull up a dialogue widget and you can progress through the dialogue tree.
Then once the player is done with the dialogue widget, the npc just goes back to doing the previous activity.
steady hinge
The camera and movement is based off the third person template.
plush yew
Can you make them like in DeusEx 98' , where if you shoot at them they get scared and run away, and hide behind crates with some natural ratalizatoin of what is happening to them
"I don't want to get shit and die"
steady hinge
There is no shooting or fighting or jumping or health component to the character however.
plush yew
"What would I run towards the person shooting bullets at me"
steady hinge
There is a catapult in my game however, and I might want to make the npcs react to different things that get throw at or near them.
Like if a swarm of bees comes flying their way.
plush yew
Just got an email back from Epic's legal dept. Turns out you guys were right, a patreon isn't affected by the royalty unless it has in-game benefits or allows access to the game itself
wary wave
good information
crystal lotus
Question guys, I'm wondering when I complete a level how can I show the results to players?
Than when I press 'NEXT' it'll go back to the main story page
Like this
grim ore
There should be a few ways but the basics would be to just track the info while playing and use a UMG widget to show that screen and set the values. It's a simple UI setup as it's just displaying data on a fairly static screen.
plush yew
speaking of UMG, I need to really figure out how to a: set up draggable windows in my game and b: make the terminal something that isn't a 10x1-character display by default
plush yew
The rational part of a teen's brain isn't fully developed and won't be until age 25 or so. In fact, recent research has found that adult and teen brains work differently. Adults think with the prefrontal cortex, the brain's rational part.
leaden dust
discord server new message icon has exactly the same or almost exactly the same color as unreal comment heading
tawdry raptor
I have made my own animations in cinema 4d and exported them as FBX, when I import into unreal everything imports but I dont get to see all the animations when I go make a blend space
plush yew
nice bro photon keep doing it
i sometimes get weird feelings that i will never finish my game
tawdry raptor
well my game is almost fdone
its not going to be much
but Im going to need at least 6 months of blueprint training before I can figure stuff out
why cant we rename bones in unreal engone
tawdry raptor
well yeah
I cant believe unreal cant rename a bone, after exporting 30 animations I have to rename them all the have the same root bone
or else my animations wont work\
or at least I think thats why
barren coyote
Hey, I am trying to use github desktop to cloen the UE4 engien source, but I cant login past this:
I think maybe 2FA is the problme
any one got an idea or knows the solution?
honest vale
have you linked your epic account to your github account?
barren coyote
yea mate, it's not that
I can clone it on my github page with out problems, but not with github-desktop
cloud cobalt
Use another source control client
Not even sure GitHub's can even handle something like UE4
plush yew
what is source control? @cloud cobalt
cloud cobalt
Versioning software, like Git, Perforce, SVN
plush yew
what it does
cloud cobalt
Stores every change you ever made on your project for as long as you need, often on a remote server
You need it if you plan on spending more than a week on anything
cloud cobalt
Every time you've fixed a bug or added a new feature or changed a texture, you submit changes to source control, and you have a full history of every change
It's not even about backups, it's about tracking down a change 6 months later and reverting it
cloud cobalt
It's basically mandatory if you work as a team, but any software project of any kind really needs it
worn granite
that's odd, github-desktop worked just fine for me
@plush yew yeah, source control is really neat - get something like this when looking for changes
plush yew
Wow xd
worn granite
and you get that comparison between any two changes - and for the entire history of the repo
So, you can go back years trying to track down something that's led to a bug
its less useful for BP though
but you should still look at it
cloud cobalt
Simple, instant, engine-independent, mobile-friendly viewing of changes is why I mostly do C++ and not Blueprint
plush yew
do you need ue then if u dont use bp?
cloud cobalt
Uh, yeah
plush yew
theres always good time smurfie
worn granite
not using BP does not require that I throw away UE4
plush yew
what makes you stay? @worn granite
plush yew
what convinced u
worn granite
There are other reasons why I use UE4
get outta here, what with your personal opinion
dire storm
I forgot all my C++ over the summer semester so now I gotta go relearn everything. I'm bouncing all over the place trying to take it all in. There's soooo much to learn!!!
worn granite
lmao
funny you're pressing me, but I'll play.
Actually it was the fact that I have access to go and change anything I want about the engine, in its guts.
If I really wanted to, I could potentially (and am currently doing) alter how BP works.
That's what drew my attention.
And its not just that aspect, I could do so with anything in UE4.
dire storm
Anyone ever use https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfGuIVzE_Os&list=PLlrATfBNZ98dudnM48yfGUldqGD0S4FFb&index=5 . I found him pretty helpful as a crash course in C++. What pisses me off about taking weeks and weeks learning from the books (even current ones) is that none of that syntax is even freaking used anymore.
worn granite
So yeah, between that and all the other stuff you get out of the box - ue4's got plenty to offer - even if they didn't have BP.
Also, I think BP typically gets a good rep.
dire storm
I read through and did some of the projects in Principles and Practices using C++ and another C++ book. Its incredibly lengthy and it does do a really good job explaining things. But as soon as you go to engine code nothing is named the same, completely different format and I don't remember half of what I read in the book lmao...
snow quiver
https://academy.unrealengine.com
Thanks, Epic.
worn granite
Ah, @dire storm yeah, std C++ and ue4++ are two different beasts
dire storm
Why is everyone excited about the academy page? Its literally the exact same videos that were already available but not its more frustrating to navigate. You get a progress bar though now lol
worn granite
UE4 basically has its own std lib, most C++ resources use the std lib
plush yew
@worn granite you enjoy being pressed?
worn granite
not enough to stay up past my bedtime.
whole quarry
progress bars are the things we live for
plush yew
thanks for telling me why u like ue @worn granite
just made a progress bar for my minibosses 😃
I appreciate
dire storm
You could have just point them to the "old" learn page where everything was. I'm not hating on it, its just that it was already there and easily navigable.
plush yew
i m not ecited for academy page because I hate videos lol
its a motivation killer for me
dire storm
Now my OCD is going to make me go back and do all the damn videos over so I can get all the progress bars complete.
plush yew
but they are everywhere in gamedev industry
worn granite
I like the new thing, it means they were commited enough to clone Udemy
worn granite
What with their past partnerships with Udemy courses, I think its a sign of things to come.
plush yew
yeah i love how easy progress bars are to do with widgets in UE. just had to make the widget and add in a widget component. done 😃
dire storm
I mean if they really wanted to make an academy they woulda cloned KhanAcademy. That woulda made me clap.
plush yew
as stones
whole quarry
would be awesome if you could choose between video or transcript, but the video tutorials make actually more sense than text
worn granite
I can live with that
worn granite
That's nice
plush yew
that i didnt have
especially if someone is foreigner, its painful to listen to their voices sometimes
whole quarry
i'm curious about your tutorials
worn granite
I've already said I'd read them
worn granite
no need for any more advertising
plush yew
@plush yew if you want to customize the default progress bar, all you have to do is set progress bar -> style -> fill image as i do in my hud progress bars for shield and energy
then it isn't as plain
ye thanks
will try this
cloud cobalt
@plush yew From a non-Blueprint point-of-view, UE4 still has a great C++ framework (basically same as BP), including one of the few decent UI tools
Also a really really great material editor
worn granite
slate/umg is cool - and yes you can do umg with no BP
cloud cobalt
C++ UI library that powers the editor and game UI
grim sinew
Precursor to UMG, the UE4 UI runs off of slate
plush yew
Oh
cloud cobalt
It's the layer right beneath UMG
plush yew
do you guys think people will forget you shit graphics if you upgrade them later
or its all "first impression"
cloud cobalt
They will like the upgrade, though shit graphics won't get you many people to start with
Don't release your game if you think the graphics are shit
plush yew
what about unturned
whole quarry
definitely don't release it with placeholder stuff
whole quarry
not ugly, you just dont like its art style
plush yew
1080p HD
whole quarry
can you do better?
leaden dust
I am sick of unreal throwing damn glitches at me in game jams
I might just switch over to unity now if this shit continues
whole quarry
are you sure you dont make the glitches
whole quarry
sure
plush yew
are you running from discussion
leaden dust
this is all there is in this mat
whole quarry
in the detail panel there is more, but okay
whole quarry
cube with bad uv
leaden dust
this is default cube
everything in starter content works
except if I make any material it is screwed over like this on the z
I made custom uvs for my meshes also
but no
unreal HAS to screw stuff up
whole quarry
well, you do, that screen shows it 😕
leaden dust
and most issues happen in game jams
which is annoying
same mat
new project everything fine
Now I have to migrate everything over
cloud cobalt
@plush yew There's a difference between art style and quality. Minecraft is/was pretty high quality for its style, for example - it's consistent, readable, it can be quite cute to look at
@leaden dust Open the mat and check the errors
cloud cobalt
Okay, so it's the cube that's a problem
Sure it's the same one ?
Use the UV overlay to confirm in the mesh editor
Pretty sure it's not actually the same
plush yew
@cloud cobalt minecraft was solid looking yes
but sometimes its not different style its just bad graphics
leaden dust
@cloud cobalt I dragged it out from the basic panel
It works fine with starter content mats
but anything i import wont work
whole quarry
@plush yew so anything less than 1000s poly is 'bad'?
cloud cobalt
@leaden dust Create a new material with another texture, apply it to the cube, to confirm if the cube or the material has an issue
plush yew
leaden dust
@cloud cobalt I tried 6 different textures in like 10 different types of uv tiling but no
it is always like that
don't worry now
I am migrating now anyways
leaden dust
@whole quarry he is asking CAN it burn it down not he
why would he want to burn his HDD
whole quarry
so it uses less disk
cloud cobalt
@leaden dust Well, trying to help find your issue here
leaden dust
@cloud cobalt you don't need to I just tried everything AGAIN and it fixed itslef
unreal is amazing
plush yew
@whole quarry i heard its not bad if its on 100%
leaden dust
@cloud cobalt how do I move a blueprint from one project to another?
plush yew
game devs must be one of hardest industries
and the competition is sick and full of AAA titles
and you compete with whole world - not with just companeis from your neighbourhood
whole quarry
i don't think its much different than any sector
whole quarry
right mouse button -> migrate ?
whole quarry
it brings its folder structure with it iirc
leaden dust
the folder structure starts from 'Games"
I mean
'Game'
which is like the first folder of the project
whole quarry
you have first Content and then Game ?
whole quarry
you renamed the Content folder ?
plush yew
i asked question here yesterday and someone answered but i forgot 😦
storm venture
can someone explain how the InvertRotator works?
plush yew
did you try wiki
storm venture
yeah, doesnt say anything helpful
plush yew
tyler bro
whole quarry
Negate a rotator Target is Kismet Math Library
leaden dust
IT IS DOING IT AGAIN
whole quarry
plush yew
cool_da_noob share your project
leaden dust
I AM SO DAMN FED UP WITH UNREAL DAMMIT
whole quarry
calm down, grab a glass of water and take a seat
storm venture
ive already visited both of those links and neither said anything useful
plush yew
@leaden dust whats your issue i can help
whole quarry
it inverts the rotator values
storm venture
so multiplies each one by -1?
whole quarry
from what i understand, yes
leaden dust
I would't have cared if it WASN'T a jam
whole quarry
72 hours
leaden dust
5 days
plush yew
nice
whole quarry
even longer
leaden dust
ue4 summer jam
plush yew
Nice
whole quarry
i wish i had time for jams
whole quarry
fun to do, script in most hacky ways just to get it working
just slamming pieces together, great joys
plush yew
i will teach my kid to be hacker when i get older
whole quarry
can you hack?
plush yew
no
whole quarry
lol
leaden dust
sclupting ain't ez
leaden dust
especially when urs using a 1$ mouse to do it
leaden dust
my mouse costs like 1$ here
plush yew
good buy it for 1 and sell for 10
leaden dust
10$ lol
plush yew
i dont get it i saved character blueprint now copied it and its default without my changes
:((
wheres my blueprints
leaden dust
I would be surprised if I could sell it for 10 cents
whole quarry
Im using a 15 euro mouse
whole quarry
1 euro for the mechanics, 14 for the blue led >.>
plush yew
@sudden agate hows that game called
whole quarry
Is that tomb raider?
sudden agate
Yes <3
leaden dust
what about now?
whole quarry
Mixed feelings
sudden agate
read an anatomy book
plush yew
guys I need your help.
I have blueprint that has its changed that I made in one project. But when I copy it to second project its DEFAULT ! wihtout my changes
i dont get it
leaden dust
@sudden agate who is karol
cloud cobalt
@leaden dust Human characters are the hardest thing to do in 3D, our brain has had millennia of evolution on recognizing humans - it's really hard to trick the brain on that.
If you're new into 3D, don't even attempt it imho
leaden dust
@cloud cobalt who will make characters for jam then??
plush yew
pioneer in game dev
cloud cobalt
Don't have human characters in your game if you don't have a char artist on the team
basically
Or use marketplace assets
sudden agate
or go for stylized humans. They are less likely to fall into the uncanny valley
leaden dust
hmmm
I got an internet artist on the team
who downloads stuff from the internet and sends it to me lol
cloud cobalt
@plush yew Did you change the defaults in the Blueprint, or in the level ?
leaden dust
can someone help me
I want to make like a laser tesla paticlae effect (like in jetpack joyride obstacle)
how do I go about it
cloud cobalt
Particle system with beam : https://wiki.unrealengine.com/Beam_Particle_(Tutorial)
plush yew
@cloud cobalt i modified thirspersoncharacter blueprint in one project, but whenever i import it to other project it has just default blueprint
without my changes
cloud cobalt
@plush yew Did you change the defaults in the Blueprint, or in the level ?
cloud cobalt
Did you do your changes in the Blueprint editor window, or in the detail window in the level editor ?
whole quarry
changes made in a bp are ofcourse saved in that bp
plush yew
in the blueprint editor
cloud cobalt
Then the changes should be there
plush yew
maybe its cached
cloud cobalt
Blueprint has three levels of data - the parent class (needs to be the same in new project), the defaults (stuff you change in the Blueprint editor), and per-instance data (level editor)
whole quarry
lol
plush yew
seems it loaded wrong file
before
because they had the same name
how do I replace the first one with the next one (the one with K in name is the one i want to use) without breaking project https://i.imgur.com/gOSu7LQ.jpg
but i still launched them from different path before so that mustve been a bug
cloud cobalt
New rule : if you don't know how to do something in UE4, you don't have the right to use the word "bug"
Because it's very likely that it's not a bug and you're doing it wrong
No offense
whole quarry
@plush yew change the Default Pawn in the Gamemode
whole quarry
doubt
plush yew
been on this discord for few months already
cloud cobalt
Engine bugs in daily use are just not that common at all
plush yew
its not daily use, it was first time
cloud cobalt
There's a super unhealthy attitude in beginners where you assume that something weird is a bug. The correct attitude is to assume that everything that doesn't work is your doing
Because it usually is, even after a decade of experience
whole quarry
giving something else the blame for a error is easier though
plush yew
yea but that was bug
cloud cobalt
Not it fucking wasn't
plush yew
it was, it launched different file
i retried few times and it did the same.. i could easily reproduce that bug
cloud cobalt
If it was a bug, then great - record it in video, report it to the UE4 dev team, have it fixed in the next release
"Editor doesn't open the file I double-clicked on" sounds like an easy one
plush yew
it opened wrong file
cloud cobalt
Look, I love helping people here. But like I said - you should assume it's never a bug
cloud cobalt
Okay, show me the video then
whole quarry
I highly doubt that ue4 would open the wrong file
whole quarry
we're waiting, i want to see it too
cloud cobalt
🤷
whole quarry
OBS, record it, throw it on youtube, doesn't need to take longer than 10 minutes
plush yew
Chill
cloud cobalt
I don't even care about the video, tbh - you're just never going to progress if you're blaming your tools. Maybe you found the one case where UE4 opens the wrong file, and the entire Fortnite team doesn't saw it
whole quarry
make it already 😄
cloud cobalt
It's not even about you specifically either, it's a common traits to anyone learning new things - this is broken, this shouldn't be like that, etc. Sometimes that's valuable insight from outside perspectives. Most of the time though it's just not getting it.
plush yew
yeah its noobish trait
but i aint one
moving files in ue between projects is disaster
empty berry
Just migrate stuff? I have never had a problem moving files
plush yew
y i migrated
whole quarry
migrating is ezpz
dire storm
Unreal really needs to step up its game. I'm not getting any threatening emails and I feel discriminated against. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRD7MC3jKnM
dire storm
TLDR Unity Pro's marketing team was mass emailing indie devs and hobbyists without any data about financials or content created that they were in violation of the EULA and that if they didn't upgrade to Unity Pro they were going to be investigated.... omegalul
plush yew
really
cloud cobalt
That's basically it
plush yew
so they sent this email to their whole indian email list?
oh you mean indies
my fault xd
dire storm
It did. But it still happened! 😃
dire storm
I'm largely turned off by automated upgrade emails of this sort. I know they are common but you spamming me about my linked in account and saying I may be in violation of your EULA even on mistake is gonna make me reconsider using your product.
cloud cobalt
Sure - just pointing out these emails were actually mistakes
dire storm
I assumed that and gathered that from the video... I'm just laughing at the situation. mainly after reading through the comments. Kinda burned out on learning C++ so I needed a laugh
cloud cobalt
Epic has had its own licensing issues, the whole PUBG debacle sounds like a worse problem to me than auto-emailing problems. Knowing your engine provider might use your royalty money to bury you with a competing title isn't great
Though I prefer the royalty model with UE4 to Unity's approach
dire storm
Look at the bright side... more UE4 improvements! 😃
whole quarry
Unity has no bugs though (😁)
cloud cobalt
The bright side is that UE4 is a great engine with a great business model
Business is a cold thing though - no matter which engine
If you think the Unity email sounds threatening, you've gotta love tax services emails
cloud cobalt
It doesn't work like that
cloud cobalt
sigh
whole quarry
lol
whole quarry
copied pubg, lmao
dire storm
unity has some really big titles. massive titles like hearthstone and good ones like city skylines. Can't really compare revenues on user base without actual raw data.
plush yew
and rust
cloud cobalt
@plush yew It doesn't work like that because UE4 makes money on game units sold, while Unity makes money on engine licenses sold
plush yew
oh
dire storm
just because 100 million people use something doesn't mean you're making more money. The vast majority never get the pro upgrade. Sure, just like any free program, the more you have the greater the likelyhood of people upgrading.
cloud cobalt
I'm pretty sure UE4 makes more money than Unity
plush yew
but they have 10 times less users
whole quarry
where do you base that claim on @plush yew ?
plush yew
which one
cloud cobalt
Fortnite makes more in a month than Unity makes in a year, too
whole quarry
letmebeyourfriendvandaag om 11:39 yeah ue has better licensing then i think but still much less users
where did you get the user base statistics from?
plush yew
because in total there are 10 times more search queries realted to unity than to unreal
so unity has as much search queries in google as unreal x 10
whole quarry
that says nothing
cloud cobalt
The point is that UE4 makes money on units sold
plush yew
Yes
cloud cobalt
While Unity makes money on developers using Unity
whole quarry
if 1 person, searches 10 queries on unity, and 10 persons search 1 query on unreal, you would say its the same amount of people
cloud cobalt
There are more gamers than developers
whole quarry
¯_(ツ)_/¯
cloud cobalt
It doesn't matter if there are 100 times more Unity devs than UE4 devs
It takes one UE4 dev to make more money for Epic than all of the 100 Unity dev licenses
cloud cobalt
Hugely successful Unity titles don't bring crazy money for them
They could have provided the engine for PUBG and made $10 000 on it
Unity's business model is to have everyone working on game dev - doesn't matter one bit if the games sell
cedar snow
unity is selling the shovels
unreal is selling the gold truck
plush yew
lol
cloud cobalt
Anyway, different philosophies in licensing and in tech for both engines
plush yew
another day at the desk trying to figure out how to get YPos for my reticle in my game. woohoo
nota fan of trig but i use it when ihave to 😛
(3d reticle, so it is based on where the player is aiming if he looks away from camera)
i imagine you did some of the same with your game Stranger, if you coded any of the reticle stuff.
😛
i love the fact u can make money
with ue4
but dont pay royalty
below certain amount
of money
dire storm
that amount is 3k which is like... nothing at all. If you make any kind of financial success you will be paying Unreal a well deserved royalty.
unless its changed recently
dire storm
3k is a quarter. Which if you're trying to make a living, pay rent, feed yo kids... is nothing.
in not is
plush yew
i dont have kids
cloud cobalt
That's 1k a month on gross revenue
So if it's on Steam, you get ~55% of it
Then you have taxes
I think we make something like 25% of gross revenue
polar hawk
whole quarry
55%? Steam only takes 30?
cloud cobalt
Yes, but Steam collects VAT, too
20% in Europe
5%-ish in the US
Dunno about the rest of the world much
plush yew
in poland
1000 USD per month
is about 3500 PLN +
even after taxes its more than average earner xd
i disagree
cloud cobalt
I think it was 55% of gross revenue including UE4 royalties
cloud cobalt
RIP your sales
plush yew
i have my ways
cloud cobalt
I checked and I can confirm 58% of gross revenue here paid by Steam
Before UE4 royalties (and company taxes)
whole quarry
so 30% steam, 5% epic, 21% tax, ewww
plush yew
why
whole quarry
it gives you carrots
cloud cobalt
People don't want to buy a game that's not on Steam, really
Steam gives them a nice library, cloud saves, refunds, friends, etc
Not to mention reviews
Few thousands
Hoping to boost that after Early Access 😃
plush yew
yea some steam manics
maniacs
can want in on steam
so they can add it to their load of games
you sold few thousands?
nice ;
;o
i think people love steam
i mean players
cloud cobalt
Nope smurfies
plush yew
steam for players is something like iphones for teens
plush yew
is it possible to create mesh from actor blueprint ?
for foliage
i have trees in form of actors, not meshes
😐
sudden agate
Right Click on your Actor -> Convert to Static Mesh
whole quarry
@plush yew isnt there a mesh in that actor?
plush yew
it's there. select the object in the viewport. can be a blueprint, or just a dropped in mesh.
weird
whole quarry
@plush yew did you make the savegame system yet?
plush yew
why, you want to help me?
whole quarry
Just keeping track of your progress
leaden dust
can someone tell me how to make like a lightning tesla between 2 points?
plush yew
look at the youtube hit on Intro to Cascade: Creating a Beam Emitter
whole quarry
First result should be a tutorial
plush yew
@whole quarry hey you good at vectors?
whole quarry
No :d
plush yew
how to get angle between two forward vectors?
plush yew
i c
investigating
yep dot product
calculate DOT product. Dot product is cosinus of those vectors.
Calculate arcus cos of that value.```trying to do a crosshair rn
I love my game idea
its totally
seducing
you know these games you cant stop playing? its one of them
i couldn't stop playing diablo 1
is it diablo 1?
Karol?? 😛
where has he gone
whole quarry
Playing his game
sudden agate
@plush yew trump, is that you?
sudden agate
Get All Widgets of Class, iterate over them, identify them somehow -> delete
fair violet
@plush yew if you create a reference to your widget when creating it, it is then very easy to delete just that widget.
Get all of class is usually wasteful unless you really need it
fair violet
Like a variable- you store a reference to that widget- if you drag out the blue pin after creating the widget you can promote it
Then you have a direct link back to that widget you can use to call stuff on it or destroy it
plush yew
yea thanks. i didnt need to promote it @fair violet
i just used remove from parrent
but yeah promoting could be helpful as well
in certain cases
whole quarry
deja vu
plush yew
guys
would be better to keep buildings levels as variables or in struct?
for example u can upgrade building to level 2
fierce tulip
my kidneys for a way to organize the vault
plush yew
guys how to create struct
grim sinew
grim sinew
Do you? Do you really?
plush yew
Can I use a string table as a way to store a list of fortunes that I can select and display at random using a random number generator in blueprint?
trying to recreate the Linux fortune command in my game
i have really tough times with structs, basically creating your own struct where you can choose what variable it is and what value it holds - anyone did that? (basically i want to create list of various variables that contain various data)
I don't want to localize the string table, just use it to store a list of fortunes
i know its possible because i had it in the past but i forgot 😦
@plush yew that's simple - right click in the content browser, "Blueprint -> Structure"
yeah it was that @plush yew you are amazing bro 😃 ❤
no problem
I usually just create my structs in C++ though :P
im not into c++ honestly, especially not if there are blueprints to use
learning ue is tough so no need to add more work with learning c++ 😄
fierce tulip
good neighbors are good.
calling me from the yard to tell me they are going to do some construction related work and itll be loud, so if I was recording stuff I could pause it.
whole quarry
@plush yew I'm 110% sure this is another deja vu, anyways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-tCCtkX1sk
plush yew
oh ye thanks remco but i alraedy have what I wanted : )
anyway, how can I select a random string from a string table in BP?
I do not need localization for this specific table
whole quarry
did you gave the row names a number?
plush yew
The way I'm doing it is I'm trying to get the array of keys in the table, and generate a random number between 0 and the array length
then selecting that key, and grabbing the source text
issue is the array ain't coming back.
whole quarry
array.length-1 i hope?
plush yew
this is my BP
the string table has 3 strings in it so far but the array is coming back empty.
whole quarry
do length minus 1
because if index 0 has value, the length will be 1, but array index 1 isnt valid but it is on index 0
plush yew
ahhh well I figured it was like C#'s RNG where the value never equals the maximum
it's always less than the maximum
anyway, even then, my array's still empty. :P
placid garnet
hey guys i have a problem with packaging my android game.
it would be awesome if someone could help me.
Error Log: https://pastebin.com/BZ6LSWYy
leaden dust
hey
I need immediate help if possible
I want to create an array of references to childs of one of my blueprint
but when I create an array variable of that parent it doesn't allow me to change the default value inside the editor
fierce tulip
try #blueprint and ask politely 😃
leaden dust
@fierce tulip no offense but what was impolite in that so I don't do that next time
fierce tulip
it wasnt impolite, no worries hehe
grim sinew
@placid garnet I don't know what hastebin is, but that is one really fishy looking URL
grim sinew
Also if you have packaging problems, #packaging will probably have people that know
elfin jacinth
Morning ya'll!
wary wave
o/
plush yew
What would be the best kind of object to hold information about an NPC?
like, in my game, the player can hack into an NPC "computer" and control it in certain ways
I'd like the player to have the same class as an NPC just with player-specific functions added on such as missions and save system
I'm not sure if I should just make all NPCs a pawn class or just regular actors
or even just structs or UObjects that get managed by a game state class
and if I make them all pawns, if I should "possess" the pawn when the player hacks into the NPC
effectively turning it in to the player pawn
inland seal
Npcs can be actors unless you are able to control them, then a pawn might be applicable
plush yew
Could I make the player pawn inherit an NPC actor and tack on that additional functionality?
inland seal
You could posses the pawn using the player controller
worn granite
Have you thought about a component based design?
And to be honest, given your game, I'm not sure possession makes the most sense anyway.
worn granite
Nope! UActorComponent
inland seal
That sounds like c++ magic :p
plush yew
Well, I'm not entirely sure
inland seal
@plush yew what is it are you trying to do exactly
worn granite
And if you're not moving around a physical world at all (thinking like event[0]), you don't even really need actors or components.
plush yew
let me explain the best I can without textwalling
worn granite
Its really a matter of what you're comfortable with.
plush yew
basically in my game, you're in a unix-like environment. Entire game is controlled through a UI, with a desktop environment, terminal, etc.
Core gameplay involves hacking other NPCs/players in the game world through this unix environment to gain access to their systems, spread malware, find loot in their filesystems, etc.
Every single NPC has a hostname and an IP address, an XP and skill level value, a "Government Alert" value which is sort of like the wanted level in Grand Theft Auto
a Reputation value which defines how other characters in the world interact with the player/NPC
a filesystem, where files and directories can be stored, read, navigated, etc
and they're all procedurally generated (well, NPCs).
There are different types of NPCs though - some are full-blown PCs that have a desktop environment and can be controlled through either SSH or VNC/remote desktop
some are just email servers, which you can hack into and read people's emails etc
some are just regular old database servers
some are just file storage servers
cedar snow
so a larger version of exapunks?
cedar snow
it's less about being like the real thing and more about optimizing solutions with limited resources
very limited resources
inland seal
Sounds like you should just use a spreadsheet to hold attribute data that you compare with the players?
plush yew
Given that each and every computer in the game, player or NPC, has a hostname, IP address, skill level/XP, filesystem and government alert, I want to have some sort of common class that controls that stuff that every character in the world inherits from
but I also want different subclasses for things like file servers, desktop PCs, etc
but uhhh my game definitely ain't larger than exapunks
cedar snow
well, your description makes it sound like it has 10 times the functionality of exapunks
plush yew
well, who knows
plush yew
anyway I guess my main issue is figuring out how to properly design the structure and handling of NPC data (both general data like the IP address and specific data for each NPC), and how to decide how the player can hack a target based on what type of target they are
I know for things like npc loot tables, that's easy. Miscellanious -> Data Table
and adding actual terminal commands and programs, that's done.
cedar snow
i'd separate npc from machine
plush yew
as in?
plush yew
makes sense
cedar snow
also for simplicity server/desktop could be the same
maybe start only with one
a machine can be a group of services
like filesystem, network
inland seal
You gonna be using tables and arrays for your data. I'm telling you that now
plush yew
I already know that.
inland seal
That's where most of your handling is gonna be
plush yew
Now, in that case, would things like government alert be handled within an NPC/player's Tick event or from within a shared game state class?
inland seal
So you can store the playrers info in one table and when you enter another computer tempersrily overwrite the players knfo
I don't see why you couldnt have a timer in the npc class if it's only for when you are in that npc
plush yew
or I could have the player pawn have like a "Connected Machine ID" that points at their system and when Ithey connect to an npc, point it at that.
plush yew
hell, make it an array if I want multiple connections at once
plush yew
So.
Machine is an object, containing gvt. alert, ip address/hostname, other general metadata.
Machine contains array of Services, which are Hackables that provide the Machine with functionality such as a desktop environment, a filesystem, etc.
Character (not to be confused with the ue4 character class) is an object that has an "Owned Machines" array, pointing to that person's owned machines
inland seal
Sounds good so far
plush yew
actually, character will hold gvt. alert, skill level, stuff like that. that's more logical.
NPC is just a character that isn't a player. Duh, "NPC" = "Non-Player Character."
Player is a character that is an actual pawn, and deals with letting the actual player control the game.
inland seal
Yes. Though of I'm not mistaken you don't actually need a pawn. You San have the player control an actor etc. But you on the right track
worn granite
Input is kinda weird - you can actually (but shouldn't) have the level itself handle the controls.
plush yew
I let the pawn listen to input actions
such as CTRL+T which is a universal "Open Terminal on Current System" hotkey
but I've noticed a bug
when Terminal spawns, it sets the input mode to UI only
which stops CTRL+T from working
I mean, I only need UI input, not game input. You only see the UI, you never actually see the level.
and even if you could eject yourself from the UI, all you'd see is infinite black void
worn granite
that's not a bug
plush yew
I need that universal hotkey but I also need mouse scrolling in the terminal which doesn't work in Input Mode Game and UI.
worn granite
You can use Game and UI, where UI takes precedence but if the event isn't handled in the UI, you can handle it with the game code.
Ah.
Sounds like you get to have a lot of fun with low level input stuff or dirty workarounds
plush yew
you obviously haven't seen the bash blueprint.
my friend Trey has.
he sorta works on the game with me but doesn't use BP at all
and even he thinks my bash BP is the visual definition of spaghetti code
"to be fair it is" he just said lol
worn granite
BP is super easy to get spaghettified
pallid compass
All bp is a sin
worn granite
Yeah that's definitely the case.
plush yew
but, C++ is way more friendly when creating custom UMG widgets that do their own rendering stuff
worn granite
There's a few things I'd rather do in BP than in C++. Somebody's gonna print this message out and frame it on their wall.
plush yew
no, someone's going to open up their game in UE4 and stick that message in their Fortunes string database
worn granite
plush yew
I wasn't joking.
also fun fact: i have literally never used the Nodes or World Outline panels
or the Details panel in the main UE4 editor UI
I literally just have Content Browser to the left and a big massive viewport taking up the rest of the space.
Nodes panel? MODES panel, ya drunky me.
worn granite
/r/me_irl
inland seal
I love BP. It's how the company I'm with allowed a bunch of artists to be able to make big strides in the game we are making
worn granite
Ever use the palette window?
BP is the big bad, but if you don't ever use it you'll be the big sad.
plush yew
the hell is the palette window
pallid compass
omg
worn granite
tfw trying way too hard to have a second entry in the fortunes datatable
plush yew
tfw recompiling my game just to start the editor to put that IN to the fortune database
worn granite
In a BP (umg or otherwise) open the palette window. You've now got a vertically split pane where you can filter by class or by function name - then drag nodes onto the graph.
inland seal
Same in materials
worn granite
Actually I think it might be any node graph
plush yew
I just use the context-sensitive palette you get when you right-click or drag off a pin
inland seal
Fun fun
worn granite
And favorites are pinned to the top by default
I use both, context sensitivity is pretty OP
plush yew
half the time I literally only have the graph on screen because magnifier
don't see any of the UI that surrounds it
worn granite
Ah, fair.
narrow socket
dm?
inland seal
Tables... Lots of em. And just comparing and contrasting in BP lol
worn granite
comparing tables in BP 🤢
inland seal
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