ue4-general

[paper kernel]

totally forgot the lack of controllers

I guess there aren't many alternative options

update/manage a list of all pawn class actors

unless

[faint sphinx]

hey guys i need ur help, how to create a graph node in blueprint like this http://prntscr.com/j5vwxc

[paper kernel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr7q5Cfjj7c&index=8&list=PLfQ3pODBwOcaV1TdnqNWLTJ4wiUzEvXis

[faint sphinx]

thanks

[paper kernel]

video 11 goes indepth to event graph itself

[tepid karma]

Hey Everyone, Is there a smart way to bake lighting on parts for example a car spoiler and then whilst playing the game swop in different car spoilers that are also baked?

[crisp flower]

guys i have a problem with painting foliage. so it started as following

1. i painted some grass
2. erased it and changed some placement and painting options
3. tried painting again but i couldnt, thought it was just a bug so i restarted ue, but that didnt help
   any ideas what might be the issue ?

[oblique tangle]

are you sure you deleted the paint and not the foliage?

[crisp flower]

i deleted foliage from level to re apply it better

everything works fine but when i paint its blank

no grass generated

okay just tried with different mesh

and it works

for some reason my grass went through first time

but dosent want to go again

rocks go with no problem tho

okay just figured it out my selfe watch out with Height under Placement guys xd

[tranquil bone]

Just wondering does anyone know of ways of procedural generation to create floating islands and on these islands generate of actors e.g. resources like rock and trees

[faint sphinx]

Need more help, i use the starter kit animation and my player dont play the jump animation https://gyazo.com/c64fa04d6a52b55419c3b5b07201a666 (i use c++)

http://prntscr.com/j5w94a i think its bad

[sudden agate]

@faint sphinx You need to implement the logic yourself "WasJumping" is just a check for jumping itself to forbid more jumps than allowed.
I recommend using "IsFalling" from the CharacterMovementComponent to indicate the Character is jumping (not the best solution, but a starting point)

You also don't need to cast your Pawn again after successfully casting it

[faint sphinx]

ok ty

[lean gale]

Hello!
Is there any way to use highresshot or similar alternative to capture high res screenshots in a HTML5 build for the user to download?

[honest vale]

anyone know what the "Odin" project is that sometimes appears on github commits?

[opal coral]

why does the scale tool not follow the increments? no matter how small I make them, they don't follow the grid.
I would use BSP brushes, but they can't have custom collision settings ;/

[fierce tulip]

try putting that same sentence in the google search bar

[viral herald]

good point

[wary wave]

@opal coral - the scale tool scales by increments of scale

the grid is at fixed intervals

the two are not compatible concepts

if you're going to use brushed, resize them, don't scale them

[viral herald]

lol it was easier than most other problems XD

thanks @fierce tulip

[fierce tulip]

😃

[opal coral]

@wary wave they aren't BSP brushes, but static meshes. I'm just blocking out the level, but I can't use BSP because of collision presets

[wary wave]

right

[opal coral]

any workflow for this kind of stuff, besides making lots of separate converted static mesh actors? takes time to set up each one, instead of just duplicating one with the correct settings

[upbeat eagle]

I just noticed Brackeys started using UE4

[wary wave]

@opal coral - it would honestly depend on what you were doing

[lyric owl]

where I can ask math question?

[rocky portal]

How difficult is something like this to setup? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fWvIvcg5qM

[silver steppe]

Hello

[fierce tulip]

@rocky portal we cannot really answer that since it depends mainly on your skill level

if you have done it a million times, its easy af. if you never even booted up a computer it might be near impossible.

[rocky portal]

I've mostly messed with FPS stuff

never touched vehicles 😃

just thought it would be something interested to try to make

[fierce tulip]

i'd go with "hard af" then :p
and wish you good luck and let us know how it goes 😃

[devout gulch]

if you don't want to touch PhysX and C++

it's literally impossible

[rocky portal]

I know C++

i only use BP for prototyping stuff really

where does the PhysX part come in (I don't know this) as I thought Physics were not ideal for MP replication

but vehicles often use physics to allow for things like sliding i believe?

[devout gulch]

simulation of tracks and suspension

[rocky portal]

ah yeah those don't need to replicate

[devout gulch]

https://forums.unrealengine.com/community/work-in-progress/54936-assets-open-source-tanks-tracks-and-n-wheeled-vehicles

[languid shard]

@devout gulch https://forums.unrealengine.com/community/community-content-tools-and-tutorials/71452-open-source-machinery-modelling-toolkit?99605-OPEN-SOURCE-Machinery-Modelling-Toolkit=

first link is discontinued :p

[devout gulch]

ah well, didn't know :d

[quasi lake]

Is dot product in 4.19 not accurate?

[vale osprey]

That would brake half of the engine

[quasi lake]

I did normalized vectorA dot normalized -vectorA,it's -0.98

not -1

In 4.17 it should be -1

[livid haven]

I don't think it's got anything to do with engine version.

It is floating point math so... maybe you looked at it funny and therefore it decided to be different?

[surreal skiff]

does someone know how to make music like a composer or know someone that knows how to make music

[austere yacht]

Does following a video series creating something teach you as much as if you force yourself to create something?

[cloud cobalt]

@surreal skiff Hire a composer

They are quite a lot and they're generally quite forward

[livid haven]

@austere yacht That really depends on the video itself and also how you go about it.

[surreal skiff]

its for a game

horror related

[cloud cobalt]

Hire a composer 😃

[livid haven]

Like, if it's just instructional and telling you what to do to get a result, that's really not that helpful. You're not learning something you can apply. It's like learning a couple of phrases in a foreign language - you can't speak that language, you can just parrot back a few sounds/letters.

[surreal skiff]

where do i find one

[austere yacht]

So what kind of videos are the most helpful? Gut reaction says the official ue4 ones

[quasi lake]

My bad,my code is wrong

[livid haven]

I can't rightly say, I wouldn't know, but I would think the ones of the official YouTube channel are decent?

I'm sure some are much better than others.

Like, some probably are, unfortunately, largely just "Do X, then Y, and you get Z"

While other videos probably actually walk you through good habits and practices to build, not just getting an end result on the screen.

[austere yacht]

Ill just follow along one and see how it feels

It seems like you learn when you have an idea you want to make happen and then try to make it

[grim ore]

If you want an example of a "good" video that is helpful just look for any of the ones from Zak Parrish. His are a great example of a video that teaches you how and why stuff does stuff when you do stuff

[plush yew]

Hi, im having some big issues. I imported an FBX into my scene and now i keep getting this error throughout. Was working fine about an hour ago. http://puu.sh/A4o2o/a2186ee26a.png

Basically it won't let me save my level or anything in it as i "do not have permission"

"You do not have sufficient permission to save the following content to disk. Any changes you make to this content will only apply during the current editor session.

/Game/Level/Maps/TheDeathOnBrownStreetMain
"

Please mention me if you have a solution to my problem

[fierce tulip]

@plush yew seems like you dont have access to your version control, are locked out of the file, or the file is suddenly read only.

[plush yew]

Yeah, and i'm not sure what to do about solving this

[fierce tulip]

that really depends on which of the three things I mentioned

[plush yew]

I don't have version control setup i believe

[fierce tulip]

1. log into version control
2. tell collueague to push the file/revert it
3. find the file in your project folder > right click > properties > check to see if its read only, if it is, uncheck it

[grim ore]

also, and its weird, but make sure you don't accidentally have 2 copies of the project open

[plush yew]

Okay, i'm closing everything and i'll check to make sure it randomly hasnt gone to read only

Why would it change to read only if thats the case?

It was set to read only, however everytime i open it again it resets to read only

again

What the hell??? I restarted my computer and re-launched it up and it works fine with 0 issues...

[fierce tulip]

#justunreal and/or #justwindows10 things

[plush yew]

a headache for no reason. Thanks for your help regardless Luos. Appreciate it :)

[faint sphinx]

Hey guys i need help because i can not do it, i make jump c++ but he dont play my animation(i use animation starter kit) https://gyazo.com/e4d552360a3fdb64c4b0a96c5419a9d1

[languid kindle]

Anyone know how to set up Shadowplay in UE4? I've always had it work but I think a recent update broke it.

Found a few unanswered threads that seem to have the same problem

[cloud cobalt]

Use OBS instead, if all else fails

It can use the Shadowplay encoder and you have much more options

[languid kindle]

Ah alright, cheers

[finite sleet]

@livid haven Would you mind messaging someone to help me with my login issue, or get me an email?

[livid haven]

Did you ever link a Google account with your Epic account?

[finite sleet]

That I did not.

[livid haven]

I'm not really sure who I could direct you to, what was the deal again? Sorry, I vaguely recall you mentioning log in troubles.

[finite sleet]

Sure. I won't receive two factor authentication emails even though it displays the correct email when I try to log in. I can't access the support section of the website due to it needed me to log in. I tried going through an email support system I found, but I haven't received anything back over the past two weeks.

[livid haven]

Obligatory: Checked spam filters?

[finite sleet]

Did that.

[livid haven]

Huh. I'll see what I can do.

[finite sleet]

Thank you so much.

[livid haven]

DM me your e-mail address for the Epic Account, at least, so I can give them something to look at.

[finite sleet]

Sure.

[thorny cipher]

@livid haven I assume FN is on latest version of UE, are you guys getting issues with using stat commands and hitching?

[finite sleet]

Thanks

[thorny cipher]

I put in a bug report, but was wondering if anyone has talked about the issue

[livid haven]

Dunno, I've been in my hole working on camera stuff for a while.

[thorny cipher]

😄

[still pilot]

Morning

[finite sleet]

Morning.

[livid haven]

Sorry I don't have anything on that. There's a certain level of removal between being remote and being on UI.

[still pilot]

So what is everyone's stance on using Unreal Studio for making 3D Animated shows?

[livid haven]

"Stance"?

I know of at least that one 3d animated kids show, but I don't know that they're using Unreal Studio rather than plain old Unreal Engine.

[still pilot]

Well opinions I guess would be a better word

Well I mention that due to the fact that when you go to the Unreal Studio page they show customers and one of them is the people making the animated kids show.

[livid haven]

Ah, fair, then they probably are using the whole Data Smith thing then.

Worth asking, though I'm afraid you probably won't find anyone on here with experience in that particular use. Still very early days and I'm not sure how much overlap there is with this community.

Maybe #visual-fx or #animation?

[thorny cipher]

this crash still exists

[cinder iron]

D3D... The good ol crash back then when I used my previous computer to use UE

[thorny cipher]

😐

[digital anchor]

i though unreal studio was to capitalize on stuff that wont be sold, if you use studio for an animation you will just skip the 5% royalty?

[cinder iron]

Didnt have it again since I upgraded

[thorny cipher]

https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-42280

[still pilot]

For sure I will check there, most of our team knows unreal, we are looking for better tools that will help in rendering times, as of right now Redshift is what we planned on using but $500 per licence and costs for render farms is just a bit much for a team without a lot of funding. So we are looking at the unreal engine/studio to help cut a lot of those costs/time.

[thorny cipher]

Apparently fixed

lol

https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-51650

[livid haven]

@digital anchor No. Unreal Studio is basically UE4 + Data Smith, which is basically a toolset oriented more towards arch viz and such.

[dim merlin]

hey guys, just a quick question: i can only select static meshes that have no alpha

objects with a alpha below 1 cant be selected.. why?

[livid haven]

As for the pricing model, I don't know.

[thorny cipher]

@dim merlin

[still pilot]

Well I know in Nov it will be $49 a month which is not too bad really.

[tidal elbow]

Besides our usual uses for UE4, VR/AR interactive and other experiences for industrial... We've started using UE4 with a build of the VXGI version as a rendering replacement for Vray when making linear content. I'm curious if there is a specific section where this sort of use is best discussed. Maybe cinematics? Though there is a significant difference. Perhaps a section for high-quality linear animation might be useful?

The current visual fidelity, coupled with the upcoming raytracing capabilities have really pushed us to re-imagine our workflows. When you can render 4k frames out at less than 1 frame a second at impressive quality, with DOF, fog, etc... this is faster than we can run a comp frame from Nuke. It sort of changes the game in terms of whether we even need compositing in a pipeline, when you can change it in the final and render frames again that fast.

[lethal star]

bit off topic, but does anyone here have experience deploying on googles app engine?

[pallid compass]

app engine?

[lethal star]

google cloud, compute engine, etc. whatever name you might know it under

[still pilot]

@tidal elbow this is a big reason we are considering using the Unreal Engine/Studio for our animated series. We are using Redshift right now and the costs of rendering in redshift can get costly.

[tidal elbow]

@still pilot I would really consider it. There are some bumps in the road, but we've put our first all Unreal animation into production for a medical project, and so far, the client is totally happy with the look. There is minor exception with some of the artifacts in the circle dof. We are considering if there is a cleanup phase we can do in Nuke to get rid of the worst ones by rendering out

but our project is pretty shallow dof, so the artifacts are more pronounced than normal.

[still pilot]

Ya we are already thinking of ways to fix that as well, the only thing stopping us right now from completely moving to unreal is looking for a Rigger and Animator that can make the rigs for Unreal.

[tidal elbow]

Any normal rigger should be able to handle it. Just some rules they might not like.

[still pilot]

Ya lol always an issue with that, plus the main reason we want to use it is due to the fact we do not have any kind of funding, which would make the switch to unreal 100x better as we would not need software licenses for redshift or pay for a render farm.

[tidal elbow]

Same for animators. Also, you can use alembic as a transfer file so you can just bake the animation out to cached verts.

Yeah I'm looking at our current licensing costs and seeing that several Mayas can go to LT. While we may never truly remove Vray from our pipeline entirely... it could be reduced.

would #cinematics be the best place for conversations on linear media rendering?

[still pilot]

Most likely lol.

[quaint hull]

hey, anyone have/know any tutorial/guide on making interaction/adventure mechanics, like stuff you see in zelda dungeons, activating switches , pushing stones, bombs etc

I just want to experiment with the various mechanics we usually have in games before I make my own, so anything is welcome really

[silver crown]

Probably not 😛

[manic vault]

Ue4 retarget anim sucks

Doesn't work with uniform scale

Mobile autocorrect to retarded lmao

[thorny cipher]

Where can I find the size map? 😮 cant seem to find it

[maiden swift]

@thorny cipher In the content browser, right-click any selected asset or folder.

For assets it's under References; for folders it's under Bulk Operations.

[thorny cipher]

Just found it cheers!

[safe rose]

That's cool. Wonder when GameDev related Unreal Academy will begin.

[tidal elbow]

I think I'm going to go. Anyone else?

[mint umbra]

Hey guys, do you know how to scale a texture sample (i.e a noise mask) so it's huge per landscape size? I'm looking for methods to mask out my landscape to place random variation of material functions into.
A Noise node gives me what I need, but I have issues making it solid, i.e not a lot of dots on the landscape, but large areas. Get what I mean?
I want something like this: random variation, but I dont want a cell of that randomness everywhere I turn, so I need to add variation randomness to it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337290865326292992/435516836998676490/Brown-Patch-Advanced-Stages.png

I've tried multiplying the UV input of the texture sample with a scalar, to no effect. Using Tex Coords, etc.
This is what a Noise node gives me, but I don't want the noise to be covering everywhere; I need it to be way less frequent than grass.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337290865326292992/435517840808738828/unknown.png

[keen birch]

Multiply it by another larger scale noise texture with less white

(or more white depending on how you use it)

[pallid compass]

@mint umbra go look in the example landscape material pretty sure they have it setup with texture macro's

[faint sphinx]

anyone have a tutorial for making a multiplayer with steam ??

[copper fable]

why does it take so long to compile when i create a new C++ class

[mint umbra]

@keen birch That worked perfect in the first iteration, I can still play with the values

[copper fable]

compiling modules takes about 5 mins

[narrow pasture]

Is there a limitation with skeletal meshes and trigger volumes?

I can't get my simulated skeletal meshes to be detected.

[copper fable]

i am treying to set my UStaticMeshComponent to the root component

[rocky portal]

What is a PhysicsHandleComponent?

[copper fable]

but getting the error " a Value type "UStaticMeshComponent*" cannot be assigned to entity of type "USceneComponent*"

i am following a course

and they have set it up in this manner

[grim ore]

@narrow pasture assuming you mean a normal skeletal mesh it should be detected fine assuming your collision channels are paired. Out of the box it should work as far as I know. If your using a character then your collision is your capsule not the mesh itself

[narrow pasture]

Nah I'm using a blueprint with a skeletal mesh on it. Though I haven't heard about collision channels

It's not a character, it's something you pick up in VR.

[grim ore]

and physics are enabled i am assuming?

[narrow pasture]

Yeah

[grim ore]

then the next question might be are you using physics to move the item for the volume to detect it or are you moving it by changing location directly?

if physics are on and your using physics to move it, it should detect it and if not I am at a loss assuming collision is good

[narrow pasture]

I'm picking it up with the motion controller and dropping it into the volume. So I'm assuming he former would apply.

[grim ore]

yeah if your just dropping it and it's falling it should trigger

maybe turn all the channels to block on the volume and see if it blocks it so you can see if the volume is having a problem or not.

other than that double check collisions because they suck to debug 😦

[narrow pasture]

Hmm, well it is using the physics actor collision preset

[pallid compass]

Try using the pawn

by default it triggers on basically everything

[narrow pasture]

I tried that and block all

Neither worked

Maybe it's an issue elsewhere in my code

[grim ore]

maybe just hide the trigger volumen and drop a simple cube into the scene in the spot and see if it drops onto it and collides. If it still doesnt then yeah its got to be something funky on the collision on the item itself

[narrow pasture]

Alright I figured it out,I was casting wrong

[grim ore]

ah, good you figured it out.

[pallid compass]

Pro tip, put log ot text outputs on every cast fail

[patent siren]

oof wwise and 4.19 with vs 2017 are not liking each other

[pallid compass]

Works fine for me with source buile

Build

[patent siren]

we are too

i think we just need to update wwise

[swift hull]

how to get invite link here?

[solar eagle]

can someone help me pls?

[livid haven]

@swift hull See info in #more-resources

[solar eagle]

ok so im a total newbie at unreal
and I did my first game in less than a month
and I tried to use a plug in from c4d to UE4 (wich later I had to delete because I couldnt make it a hard obj)
but it doesnt matter. So, apparently I exported a "transparent file" wich now, when I try to compile my project, wont let me do it because it still has a path
that my project detects but it is deleted from EU4. And when I tried to delete it manually from the folders, I still have the same problem
I have prints btw

[upbeat eagle]

If i get an asset from the learn tab how do i import it to unreal engine 4

[hidden heart]

@upbeat eagle whatcha mean buddy? migrating the asset to your own project?

[upbeat eagle]

yes

@hidden heart

[hidden heart]

you right click on the asset you want and click migrate, then you navigate to the content folder of your project

it will transfer the asset and all its dependencies

[upbeat eagle]

Im going to try

can i do it from my cart

[hidden heart]

uhh

[upbeat eagle]

Oh

Im so sorry I didnt notice it said Add to project

Thank you so much though 😄

[hidden heart]

all good

we all are beginners at some point :)

[upbeat eagle]

Found out its also here

[hidden heart]

yup

[cerulean nova]

Can anyone show me a direction/guide/tutorial for Unreal Engine 4 Multiplayer like in Rainbow 6 Siege or GTA V ? Where players host lobbys but if the host leaves there is no "Host Migration" just someone else is hosting it? ^^

[hidden heart]

player hosted is called listen server for ue4

not sure if theres a specifix guide for what you want out there however,

[cerulean nova]

and is it a Standard nowdays that the host gets passed or will it be like in CoD / close connection

cause i think that even if u only play with friends and one of them is host and head to bed and the other ones want to continue their game should not be stopped because of that

[hidden heart]

not sure

dedicated would solve that, but thats not player hosted where one person is the client and server

[cerulean nova]

hmh 🤔

but that doubles the work right?

[white plume]

How do I load in foliage?

[hidden heart]

doing a dedicated server setup?

[white plume]

I downloaded some and it won't let me use it

[cerulean nova]

yeah cause im not realy expierenced in programming

[hidden heart]

it is more work

[cerulean nova]

hmmm 🤔

[hidden heart]

what level of experience

blueprints, c++ ?

[livid haven]

@Konners#1750 If a player is hosting, then you're going to have to deal with host migration - you're not going to get seamless host migration.

@Konners#1750 ... not sure why it didn't tag?

Okay, cool, Discord. Whatevs.

Some games just have dedicated servers, so there is no player host.

[white plume]

I imported the open world demo content and its not showing up in my content?

Rather my actual file. I loaded it into there and now its nowhere to be seen

[white plume]

Gonna try to reinstall it I guess? I have no idea why it doesn't work

[cerulean nova]

hmmm

i did not see all the other messages let me read a moment

@livid haven Try to tag me again should work now or ?

@hidden heart realy basic stuff lol i started reading a book about C++ but it was so basic that i could understand the stuff and their meaning and im pretty sure i could read some code if not to complex but i dont know how to nail it myself to make it work

[hidden heart]

well keep at it

[cerulean nova]

it was "The C++ Programming Language 4. Edition by Bjarne Stroustrup" wich i got recommended from a c++ discord

[upbeat eagle]

took 40 minutes to install the open world demo collection but it was worth it

[cerulean nova]

no wait

it was Programming Principles and Practice Using C++ Second Edition by Bjarne Stroustrup

[steel meadow]

hey do I really need to upgrade my Visual Studio to VS 2017 in order to used the latest versions of UE4 or is there other way around it?

[livid haven]

You don't need 2017.

[steel meadow]

I've tried running UE4 4.19 with VS2015 and i get errors

UE4 4.12 is fine with VS2015 tho

[cerulean nova]

maybe Framework?

[cursive dirge]

4.18 at least compiled without errors on vs2015

[hidden heart]

@cerulean nova thats a great book, you should take a few months to fully work through it

[livid haven]

@steel meadow Well, have you considered seeking help with the errors?

[cursive dirge]

would be easier to make educated guesses if we actually knew what errors it threw on you

[cerulean nova]

@hidden heart Months?!

[steel meadow]

in the ue4 docs says:

Unreal Engine Version Visual Studio Version
4.15 or Later VS2017
4.10 to 4.14 VS2015
4.2 to 4.9 VS2013

[cerulean nova]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Programming/Development/VisualStudioSetup

[cursive dirge]

those are defaults/recommended versions I assume

[livid haven]

Yep.

Promise you, still on 2015 and I work on Fortnite.

[steel meadow]

well the error was "Could not be compiled. Try rebuilding from source manually." when using 4.19 with VS2015

[livid haven]

Give us the whole error.

Copy paste the entire relevant bits of log.

[cursive dirge]

I think he means the plugin popup

[livid haven]

And exactly how you're trying to build.

[cursive dirge]

when you have to actually open just the sln in VS and build it

you know, the thing you get when you open your ue4 project that was built with older UE4 version before and binaries are outdated

if it fails to automatically build it, it could be just outdated plugins

as ue4 api has changed a lot since 4.12

you can't run the same c++ code as is with 4.12 and 4.19 unless you upgrade bits manually

@steel meadow ^

but it's impossible to tell what's going on with the info you've give so far

we can just make wild guesses like that

[hidden heart]

yes @cerulean nova assuming you dont have prior programming experience, learning c++ is def a challenge, if you did nothing but that everyday maybe a month but chances are you will burn out

[faint cedar]

Hey guys, quick question, mainly to the beginners and intermediates in here

(I know might be preaching to the choir here but it's worth a shot)

[cursive dirge]

@cerulean nova people use years to learn c++ and still don't fully grasp it

you can grasp the basics in short period of time but it will take longer to understand it properly

[steel meadow]

heres the log:

[faint cedar]

All too often do I see tutorials, asset packs and explanations for stuff in UE4 t hat works as a demo or as a prototype but isn't even remotely production ready - unoptimised, unscalable etc. I've been intending to do some livestreams of creating a game from scratch while enforcing good practices, proper asset setup and organisation etc. Question is - what kind of game would be the most fun for people to learn with? My original idea was a fast-paced doom-like shooter since it's relatively simple and straightforward.

[cursive dirge]

@steel meadow did you read the message?

it says you are missing VS2015 update 3

[faint cedar]

Would anyone even be interested in that sort of thing?

[livid haven]

@steel meadow There's a big message right smack dab in the middle.

[upbeat eagle]

is it possible to change the material of terrain without deleting it

[faint cedar]

yes

select it and change the material in the details panel just like any other mesh

[upbeat eagle]

..

Thank you

My life has never been easier

[cursive dirge]

@steel meadow ok, here's another tip, with UE4 errors, you don't look at the long list of all possible errors, you want to look at the first error it throws and fix that first, it might not be that intimidating once you realize there might not be all that much going wrong

[plush yew]

@faint cedar Rather than livestreams, I think well planned videos would be much more valuable

[steel meadow]

ok so my VS 2015 Enterprise says Update 1 ill try updating it

[cursive dirge]

update 3 has been requirement for a long time for VS2015 and UE4

[hidden heart]

yes, videos in a series where each is 5 - 15 minutes long are best imo,

[faint cedar]

I am not quite sure I agree, livestreams have the benefit of being able to go back and forth, do mistakes, show how it looks like "in real life" rather than a cut-and-dry "laboratory-condition" video.

also Q&A etc

Game dev is messy 😛

[plush yew]

There's nothing to say that you can't showcase the common mistakes in a video series

Livestreams are long as fuck and most people aren't going to watch the whole thing

[south ridge]

Live streams are superb if you can be bothered to do a little bit of two-way communication

[weary basalt]

Your assuming that people will make the same mistakes, even if its an edited video or live stream, people will have different issues with it, there is no way to compensate for that.

[plush yew]

If you split it into multiple parts with appropriate titles/sections, it's much easier to digest and is better for search

[hidden heart]

^
this

[faint cedar]

True on both points, but the problem with a video playlist is that it constraints you to "do A, then B then C" when in reality there's a lot more back and forth, it's just a lot more organic

[plush yew]

That's just where you have to plan it well

[cursive dirge]

no idea what the end goal here is but issue with all video based training, be it prerecorded or livestreams is that it gets outdated really quickly

[gray basin]

who enjoys animations

[cursive dirge]

it's easier to keep document style training up to date

@gray basin this channel is for "General discussion about Unreal Engine that doesn't fit in other channels."

[cerulean nova]

i mean i scripted abit before in SQF wich is a Horror in most Programmers eyes 😄

params [
 ["_ownerID",objNull,[objNull]],
 ["_uid","",[""]],
 ["_gangName","",[""]],
 ["_gangTag","",[""]]
];
_group = group _ownerID;
if (isNull _ownerID || _uid isEqualTo "" || _gangName isEqualTo "" || _gangTag isEqualTo "") exitWith {}; //Fail
_ownerID = owner _ownerID;
_gangName = [_gangName] call DB_fnc_mresString;
_gangTag = [_gangTag] call DB_fnc_mresString;
_query = format ["SELECT id FROM gangs WHERE (name='%1' or gangtag = '%2') AND active='1'",_gangName,_gangTag];
_queryResult = [_query,2] call DB_fnc_asyncCall;
//Check to see if the gang name already exists.
if (!(count _queryResult isEqualTo 0)) exitWith {
 [1,"There is already a gang created with that name or gang tag please pick another name or clantag."] remoteExecCall ["life_fnc_broadcast",_ownerID];
 life_action_gangInUse = nil;
 _ownerID publicVariableClient "life_action_gangInUse";
};````

Thats a little part of it

[hidden heart]

im not trying to dissuade or discourage you, just givng you an idea of whats realistic for most people

[cerulean nova]

the problem is i dont see me realy code in anything but a little in UE4

[hidden heart]

just as a hobby?

[cerulean nova]

but for what? ^^

[hidden heart]

just using UE4 style c++ as a hobby?

[cerulean nova]

whats the diffrence between c++ & UE4 Style c++

[livid haven]

Hmmm, phrasing it like that might be somewhat misleading.

C++ is the language, you can follow different coding standards/styles, which are more about trying to follow specific guidelines about what kind of language constructs you use, whitespace, how you name things etc.

When working with an existing code base, you tend to adopt their coding style, but you also use their code and they tend to have their own solutions/patterns for typical things.

So in you might use std::vector<int> if you're using plain old standard C++ libraries, but you'd use TArray<int32> when working with C++ in UE4.

Because UE4 has its owns pre-existing frameworks that it uses, instead of the optional standard ones.

One C++ programmer at one company might name something like class CSomeClass; and make instances of it like CSomeClasss instanceOfSomeClass;, where another might do it as class FSomeClass; and FSomeClass InstanceOfSomeClass;

[hidden heart]

and theres also the macros to expose things to the editor

[worn granite]

Yeah, and Super

[livid haven]

I'd consider all of those parts of the framework, pre-existing code you use.

Even the code generation stuff is just additional stuff in the UE4 build process.

[worn granite]

Still falls under UE4 C++ to me

unless we're strictly talking about the style

[livid haven]

They're UE4-specific APIs in C++, but UE4 is strictly written in C++ - Epic did not create their own compiler for a variant of C++.

Everything true of C++ is true of C++ code you write in UE4. Everything.

[hidden heart]

so it is indeed worth your time to learn c++

[livid haven]

Where UHT wants to throw an error at you because you tried to make a property that's a pointer to a struct is separate - I've seen people think that's impossible just because they can't make it a property, failing to understand that UHT was angry, but the code would compile just fine.

[candid cypress]

To the Unreal Employees, Is there a node anchor to be implemented to keep the node graphs better organized such as Nuke uses? And even the "postage stamp" nodes. Would be an amazing addition to help from stray connections

[grim sinew]

Just double click the line.

It's already a thing.

[grim ore]

you can also change the way the lines work to be straight all the time rather than curved in the settings

[hidden heart]

reroute nodes FTW

omg you can @grim ore ??m

[grim sinew]

Yep, for a while

[hidden heart]

WHOA.

[candid cypress]

oh dang... This has been driving me crazy haha, Thanks!

[hidden heart]

like, how long zero lol?

[grim sinew]

Long enough where I forgot when it was added

[hidden heart]

I must go try this

TO THE COMPUTERRRR

[grim ore]

there are a ton of settings for the graph editors added over time

hell remove the lines and add a kitten picture to the background ftw 😛

[candid cypress]

@grim ore where's the setting for setting the lines to straight?

[hidden heart]

Im gonna add a pepperoni pizza to mine, obviously

[grim sinew]

I think it's these, you can adjust the tangents and obviously make it have none.

[grim ore]

yep

[candid cypress]

finally my OCD can be helped with scripts

[copper fable]

how do i fix this?:

https://gyazo.com/fbde35020b7b087d503d46f5d422f29b

[gloomy pollen]

hey nice avatar 😃 what are you doing when that happens?

[copper fable]

hahah 😄

umm i think it has something to do with the fact i am opening it in VS2017

i jsut changed it

changed it back to 2015

and it works

[upbeat eagle]

are sun flares a built in thing or do you have to make that yourself

[night wigeon]

How does Complex collision works?

Because to me it fails more than Simple collision, guess it more depends on how far each vertex is

Correct me if I'm wrong

[south ridge]

@night wigeon simple collision uses (usually) shape vs * or convex mesh vs * collisions. Complex collision will use tri mesh vs * collisions, which are generally less nice.... what's the exact failure you're seeing? Also #legacy-physics

[night wigeon]

By failure i meant that certain spots of collision on imported mesh are like really large pits, pawn is going down once it reach them

I kinda just want to understand the technique of how unreal is making simple collision out of mesh without it (has only complex collision)

[upbeat eagle]

http://prntscr.com/j68yby

hecking detailed

[chilly gale]

Is there a way ro release a set of splines from aterrain please?

[south ridge]

@night wigeon simple mesh is made by trying to wrap up the model into a few convex meshes

But it's not very good

You should provide a proper collision mesh instead, built in your favorite 3d editor

[narrow pasture]

is there a way to disable a bone's ability to generate overlap events?

[narrow pasture]

i fixed the issue, disabled overlaps on the skeletalmesh and added a sphere

[kindred mountain]

@copper fable your startup project needs to be set to your game module

[livid haven]

Just the game project. You don't startup a module.

@narrow pasture Bones don't really generate overlaps, rigid bodies do, AFAIK. You can change those in PhAT, or whatever PhAT is these days.

[keen birch]

People, I love you for telling me about those tangets

That's going to make OCD a lot easier

[livid haven]

?

[keen birch]

Would be a nice per-BP thing though

[livid haven]

You talking about reroute nodes?

Oh, the tangent settings for the splines?

[keen birch]

So e.g. marketplace stuff doesn't suddenly look awful

The tangent settings controlling the graph editor (sp?)lines

[steel meadow]

ok so ive update my VS 2015 to Update 3 and i still got an error

[cloud cobalt]

So what happens if you open it in VS ?

[livid haven]

Yep. Tells you what's wrong right there

You're somehow trying to build both Test and Development, which are two different configurations entirely.

[steel meadow]

nevermind, its seems you only got this error if you named your project to "Test" looks like its reserved for Development purposes

[livid haven]

Yeah, don't name your project identically to any of the configuration names.

Naturally, those will collide and create an ambiguity on the commandline.

Hadn't noticed the project was named Test at first.

[steel meadow]

its worked now using a valid name project

it worked tho if Test2

[livid haven]

Makes sense.

[keen birch]

Never thought about that

That's both funny and good to know

I could've seen myself doing that as well

[livid haven]

A lot of getting better at troubleshooting issues with UE4 is not being afraid to read walls of text carefully.

It's not always super clear like that.

[cloud cobalt]

Yeah, Test sounds like something I could have done

[plush yew]

Can't open trees from Open World Demo. Always hangs up

[wary wave]

it's probably building distance field data etc

that would take some time

[plush yew]

already 10 minutes

oh man

It finished

so, what need? Better CPU, better GPu or more RAM?

[wary wave]

I believe it's all done on the CPU

so you're looking at CPU first, memory second depending on where the bottleneck is (likely CPU)

it's always slow though, that's just the way it is

[plush yew]

What is better AMD or Intel?

[wary wave]

fortunately you only have to do it once and the data should be cached

[plush yew]

oh, cached, nice

[wary wave]

generally speaking Intel are the better processors, but AMD can sometimes offer better performance/cost ratio

[paper kernel]

and intel has 6 cores now

[plush yew]

doesn UEeditor uses some CPU related code?

[paper kernel]

in consumer lineup that is

[plush yew]

I mean, Like IPP for intel

[wary wave]

it does have some optimisation for certain instruction sets

but it's hard to say just how much mileage you get out of those specific optimisations

[frank escarp]

if im correct, it should allow incremental lightmapping

like lightmapping only a few selected objects

[plush yew]

I'm trying this tutorial https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Engine/OpenWorldTools/ProceduralFoliage/QuickStart/3

And didn't expected such hi-res content

[wheat patrol]

Hi there guys!!

Im new to this, and im looking for a new engine

Oh so do you recommend it more tham UE4 to start with??

[paper rampart]

Loool

So troll

Use ue4.

😂

[wheat patrol]

xD, why??

[paper rampart]

Because its better in my opinion.

😂

[wheat patrol]

Keep in mind Im completely new to this

[livid haven]

That user has no post history here whatsoever.

[paper rampart]

Yeh

[livid haven]

So they're just showing up to be contrarian.

[paper rampart]

I was talking about the dude answering hon

Him

[livid haven]

I wasn't responding to what you said.

[paper rampart]

Oh

[wheat patrol]

So?

I´m lost xD

[paper rampart]

Everyone is so grumpy in this chat

[livid haven]

You joined Unreal Slackers.

[paper rampart]

Use ue4

Do it

[livid haven]

Which engine do you think the members of Unreal Slackers are going to recommend?

[paper rampart]

😂

Cry engine prob

No

[plush yew]

I've seen videos about cool dark games: Agony and Scorn

[paper rampart]

I wont. Im free to use them

If you dont like it. You can gladly leave

[wheat patrol]

Yeah I know ive joined Unreal Slackers, but Im looking for your experience

[plush yew]

Both UE

[paper rampart]

"🖕 "

[wheat patrol]

and recommendations

[paper rampart]

😂

[snow crown]

chill out folks

[plush yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldm5c4YfLe4

Game based on UE

[paper rampart]

Lmfao. Try to be positive in your life

[wheat patrol]

I agree UE4 is very good looking

[paper rampart]

Thst Will probably make you less grumpy

[plush yew]

I will pirated this game for sure

[wheat patrol]

And what I like is the blueprints

[paper rampart]

[wheat patrol]

Do you guys use blueprints? Or do you think is not as usefull as programming in C++

[paper rampart]

Both do the same thing

Just c++

Can do some extra things

Nothing to worry about for a begginner tho

Its actually best to learn both

[wheat patrol]

So would I be able to make a good game just with blueprints?

[paper rampart]

Yeah

[wheat patrol]

U know, a + or - decent game

[paper rampart]

C++i use for optimasation Only

"Cant spell that"

[wheat patrol]

Rlly?

Just 4 that?

[paper rampart]

Yep

Its really good at it

[wheat patrol]

Nice... that is mainly what it encourages me to use UE4

And how do I learn? What do u think about it?

[hidden heart]

learning BP first is a good idea to get your head around how things work

[paper rampart]

Agree

[plush yew]

I'm new to UE and I'm trying to create "interactive representation" for my C++ code

Will make one tutorial at day

[snow crown]

for what it's worth, I use blueprint and C++ in a 20/80 ratio

[paper rampart]

Most BP knowledge Will transfer over to c++

[livid haven]

^

[snow crown]

and I work with the engine professionally on multiple major projects

[paper rampart]

It did for me

[snow crown]

C++ is the primary way I write game code in UE

[livid haven]

If you have the engineering resources, you should definitely be leaning on them for all your "business logic" and relegate the simplest stuff to blueprints.

[paper rampart]

But you can confirm BP works.

[livid haven]

Well, of course it works. 😛

[paper rampart]

Yeh

[wheat patrol]

And how could I start learning deeply in UE4?

[paper rampart]

😂

[snow crown]

Blueprint is incredibly useful for game events as content

ie: a barrel that does something when shot

[paper rampart]

Yes it is

[snow crown]

but for something like an item system, doing that in bp would be generally a bad idea

[paper rampart]

Its hard too

😂

[snow crown]

and, the best way to learn for me (and it's probably not the best advice to give) is to just make a game using the engine

there is a gamejam coming up

[paper rampart]

Overly complex in bps

[livid haven]

Aye. If you find yourself building a system in BP, you probably need to bring that in to C++. Blueprints are not great for systemic complexity.

[snow crown]

just drum up a fun idea and dive in

it doesn't have to be perfect

[paper rampart]

I learned thst way

Roy

It works really good

[livid haven]

Or, well, really, any kind of complexity.

[snow crown]

and the game doesn't even have to be functional nor do you have to submit it

[paper rampart]

You see mistakes

And you can imprpve

[snow crown]

yeah

[paper rampart]

Improve

[snow crown]

ask questions as you try to figure things out

eventually you'll get good

or you give up 🤷🏽

[livid haven]

Ah, shit. Sitting here waiting for something to load and then I realize I'm sitting on a breakpoint from my last debugging session. -_-

[snow crown]

I did that the other day sion

[paper rampart]

Its all about investing time.

[snow crown]

i was wondering why everything was frozen

nope, just breakpoint i had set the week before and forgot about

[livid haven]

Womp womp.

[paper rampart]

If you dont have alot of time

[wheat patrol]

Oh i see

[paper rampart]

Game making Will be harder

[wheat patrol]

But if I have 0 knowledge?

Do I try also?

[paper rampart]

Yes

Everyone had 0 knowledge

Well

[hidden heart]

everyone starts at 0

[paper rampart]

Learn the engine

Get comtofrble

Then make a game

[snow crown]

everyone starts at 0

generally if you start just making a simple game

you can start to find pieces where you can learn

[paper rampart]

Be friends with the engine kinda

😂

[snow crown]

like, make pong and you start learning input

and physics

and how to respond to physics hits

[wheat patrol]

I see...

[paper rampart]

I made tetris

[snow crown]

yeah

do something simple

[paper rampart]

For my first.

[wheat patrol]

well thats maybe a bit more complex

no?

[paper rampart]

Not really.

Just calculation

[snow crown]

really, anything

[hidden heart]

its doable, break the problem down into manageable steps

[plush yew]

Hey, Is there any examples of "Correct code/BP" for UE?

[paper rampart]

Before you start.

[snow crown]

to be honest, I did my first game as a floating tank first person shooter

[paper rampart]

Note this.

[snow crown]

i dove real deep into the engine on my first outing

[paper rampart]

"Nothing" will be "easy it's a frustrating road

And you will go mad

😂

Game making mixes feelings.

[hidden heart]

i made a platformer with a weird vaccum gun that then spat the objexts out

[paper rampart]

One time you will cry of happiness. By solving a problem you sat upon for weeks

[hidden heart]

just make something you can manage at first, then build on it from there

[wheat patrol]

So thanks 4 the advice! I will be back soon

[paper rampart]

Then cry of sadness

When it breaks.

😂

[wheat patrol]

xd

[livid haven]

Ugh... disappointed at how this solution turned out.

Tried to use an actor's bounds to frame it in the camera, but the bounds are either a sphere or an AABB.

[hidden heart]

use a helper arrow?

[livid haven]

Prorgammatically.

[copper fable]

how do i set the game project in VS 2017

i have been using VS 2015 for my project and want to switch

[hidden heart]

no i mean, use the arrow as a reference?

[livid haven]

The sphere bounds are too big, the AAB is fine except... the AABB changes as the actor rotates.

[hidden heart]

ah

[livid haven]

Initially I figured since we only rotate on the Z axis, I could use the box's top and bottom bounds, but the sphere's radius - but that radius is still way too huge.

[hidden heart]

hmm

[snow crown]

@copper fable in your editor settings there is an option to change it

[copper fable]

i ahve changed it to vs 2017

but getting this error when trying to build it https://gyazo.com/fbde35020b7b087d503d46f5d422f29b

[tame stag]

wtf?, suddenly all my meshes showing up distorted, but only in orthographic vieww. They are completely normal in perspective...

[cursive dirge]

@wheat patrol if you come to UE4 discord asking for game engine, they will answer UE4, obviously

unity guys will say unity, godot guys say godot, cryengine guys say cryengine...

you get the idea

[plush yew]

@cursive dirge nope

They said Unity

[cursive dirge]

well, one guy said that to be fair

but majority would have said ue4 here if they cared to answer

[copper fable]

i was told to right click on the game solution and "Set as Startup Project" but there is no option : https://gyazo.com/c7625a46ce89bd19678085de40968666

[tame stag]

ok, i fixed it, it was showing the low LOD... under show->advanced i had to uncheck LOD Parenting^^

[plush yew]

@copper fable VS2017?

[copper fable]

yeah

[plush yew]

You should right-click at project, not folder

expand these folders

also, You have clicked at solution, not project files

[copper fable]

@plush yew do you mean , D:\Unreal Projects\StealthGame\Intermediate\ProjectFiles?

[plush yew]

no, I mean You have solution that has several projects

And one of them is Startup

To change it you should find solution "entry" in tree-view in VS

and assign it as startup

[livid haven]

Also, install UnrealVS to make this easier to change quickly with a better UI

Engine/Extras

[copper fable]

https://gyazo.com/062952841334054b16dee0b60e0bf6ec

now saying VS2015

[plush yew]

So, perhaps it was created in VS2015

[copper fable]

yeah it was

[plush yew]

You can convert it to 2017

Hm, it should ask you about convertation when you open it

maybe UE adds this?

[livid haven]

-2017 argument to Gen Proj Files script, I believe, will do it.

[plush yew]

Some old UE versions support VS2015

[copper fable]

@livid haven dont really know what you mean by that... sorry

[livid haven]

GenerateProjectFiles.bat

Pass -2017 as an argument to it.

[copper fable]

but is that the file i should make the start up

[livid haven]

That question makes no sense...

A batch file can not be a startup project.

It's a batch file, not a visual studio project.

[copper fable]

no sorry i meant the FPSGame(vs 2015) one

[livid haven]

What about it?

[copper fable]

will that be my start up project?

[livid haven]

If you select it to be, yes?

[plush yew]

@copper fable yeah, startup project has bold font

and you see, it has it now

[steel meadow]

has anyone tried the Paragon free content? my ue crashed every time i open the map level 😩

[livid haven]

Might take a lot of memory to open it. Do you have at least 8 GB? Maybe 16 GB?

8 is probably cutting it close in general.

[steel meadow]

i got 16gb ram and 3.5 Vram

[cursive dirge]

it should still swap to disk

it would just be super slow

[copper fable]

pressed generate VS project files...it said save FPSGame.sln... now it is all fucked:
https://gyazo.com/11002380ec9d6577f31f71604804e891

[plush yew]

What's wrong with "include"?

No such file?

[copper fable]

Cannot Open Source File

[plush yew]

Perhaps some directories are fucked up, so you should check project settings

ok, where it was before?

[copper fable]

im not really sure what u are trying to say mate

sorry

[plush yew]

"Cannot Open Source File" - does it even exist?

did it even exists?

I'm not sure, but I think there is some difference in "root directory" between 2017 and 2015

[copper fable]

when i generate projhect files the log said it cant detect the vs 2017 instalation

so i am gonna reinstall

see if that helps

[languid kindle]

What do you guys to record Unreal? Shadowplay doesnt work anymore as of late (Staight up says Unreal isn't compatible), and OBS starts lagging once I go Fullscreen (Editor still runs fine, OBS doesn't)

[steel meadow]

vlc capture

[manic pawn]

sharex can do it aswell

have to change the default settings first to record in non-garbage quality then it works pretty well

[languid kindle]

Do you guys also have the Shadowplay issue? It has always worked just fine for me but as of late it just says Unreal isn't recognized whatsoever

[manic pawn]

did you try using the desktop capture option in shadowplay

[languid kindle]

Don't have that option sadly enough

[manic pawn]

huh? pretty sure it was there

[languid kindle]

I think its rig dependant, I don't have it

[manic pawn]

but i haven't used it in like a year

it's somewhat hidden in privacy settings on the overlay or something like this

[languid kindle]

Yeah I know where its supposed to be my laptop just doesnt have it rip

[plush yew]

ok, finished procedural forest tutorial

and it's late

[dull wraith]

Hey everyone, just joined! I'm doing an assignment in my games development course to make my own game in UE4, and I'm making a turn based JRPG. I'm first focusing on how the battle system will work, so I'm wondering if the Paragon assets (specifically Kwang, Phase and Serath being a fighter, mage and cleric respectively) would be good for turn based combat?

[paper kernel]

probably enviromental assets

infinity blade probably has better assets for rpg game

like, spiders and monsters

[dull wraith]

By the way, forgot to mention I've only had 9 hours or so experience with Unreal Engine so I don't know some things.

[paper kernel]

well I can give you some key points for Turn based game

[dull wraith]

Yeah, I'm using the Infinity Blade adversaries and the 3 Paragon characters since they're more JRPG based rather than the rugged, fierce looks of the Infinity Blade warriors

[paper kernel]

yea focus on making a game where boxes can do damage to eachother taking turns, leave graphics for later date

[dull wraith]

I've got most of the structures and data tables sorted out but my teacher says to focus on the gameplay first and then specifics.

[waxen wedge]

the paragon minions might work for enemies

[paper kernel]

I'm more worried about the performance issues that come with high-quality assets

inf.blade assets are more manageable

[dull wraith]

Yeah, actually I might try and use some of the Infinity Blade warriors first, then maybe replace then with the Paragon assets once I understand them more

[paper kernel]

just make sure you have a working base game before trying to shove assets at it

[wary wave]

Paragon assets are bit limited, aren't they?

[waxen wedge]

if you don't have too many on screen at once I don't think it's an issue.

[dull wraith]

What do you mean by working base game? I've been told to first work on how the game works as it's better to actually have a game to play and not much info rather than a load of tables and structures and blueprints, but hardly any game

[waxen wedge]

build the mechanics of the game first

[paper kernel]

you're making an interactive software, not a showroom

build game mode that distributes turns, build AI controllers that can execute actions for you or for the Master AI

[dull wraith]

And yeah, it'll be 6 characters max (not sure if I should do it like Pokemon with 1v1 or 3v2 or 3v3) and there'll be random encounters rather than overworld sprites

[paper kernel]

do health and mana potions

[dull wraith]

Thanks!

[paper kernel]

there's 1001 things to do before figuring what the characters should look like

[plush yew]

Hello everyone

[dull wraith]

Yeah, I'll probably focus on the trigger boxes and random encounters. Not sure if I should focus on making stats or a leveling system, or even the structures and data tables first, or what in the battle system I should focus on.

And hey!

Would anyone suggest I follow the Behavior Tree Quick Start Guide for my turn based RPG?

[waxen wedge]

start with input imo

[analog pollen]

What system is the lowest you guys want your game to be played

[plush yew]

I'm new here, and I kinda suck at Unreal, so does anyone know how to create a basic environnent for a beach in Third person ?

[sudden agate]

@plush yew

1. get Beach Assets

2. Sculpt Landscape in UE to form the Beach

3. Place Beach Objects

4. Place Lights into Scene

5. Tweak Landscape
   5)Tweak Beach Objects
   6)Tweak Lights

Go To 5) if not satisfied with Result

Skill comes with practice

[plush yew]

Thanks

I guess it does

[next parcel]

hi everyone, UE4 noob looking for some advice. I'm making a super fast racing game, looking to possibly scale down the size of my actor relative to environment to effectively 'increase top speed'

I can reach 150+ m/s in 1:1 scale, was possibly going to scale down my actor to a tenth of the size to effectively make my top speed 1500 m/s. is this a clever idea or am I asking for trouble?

current scale if I increase my top speed or velocity I can bump into physics issues suchas clipping through meshes

[vale osprey]

if you scale environment in the same way then you will get the same 150m/s at the end

[next parcel]

but if I were to say for example, show the player the size of a human against the size of the vehicle, and for the vehicle to be in the view of the player.. would this not give the impression of 1500 m/s?

[wary wave]

probably not, to be fair

you'd need to diddle the camera otherwise perspective projection might look weird

[dull wraith]

Well, R.I.P me... It seems my project has somehow crashed and made my 64gb USB stick really slow. Might be due to adding the paragon assets but not sure. I'm alright with restarting though since I'll know everything I did, and I did spend about 3 weeks researching about everything I need to do (data tables, structures, what I'll include in the game, etc.) but still...

[vale osprey]

you can move object at 2 m/s but make impression of speed by scrolling environment, having unrealistic motion blur, altering FOV and etc

there is no speed perception without a reference

[dull wraith]

Actually, never mind. It works

[wary wave]

physics might also not behave as you expect if you arbitrarily scale things

environment less so than the player

[upbeat eagle]

morning

[copper fable]

so i have just set up VS 2017 for UE4 how do i make it so it opens the editor when i run it in VS?

[vale osprey]

ctrl+F5

[copper fable]

will it open the editor automatically?

[next parcel]

the intention was to have giant skyscapers and other landmarks fly past the view of the player, I will tinker around and see how I get along 😃

[vale osprey]

you can do it in either scale

it does make sense to scale everything down so that it fits into a single level without using world composition

but you have to be careful, as things get smaller, float precision can get more pronounced, especially on things like skeletal meshes

other potential issues are with rendering

[copper fable]

i think my build is set to the wrong thing

it is building in HTML5

is that normal

[upbeat eagle]

wait you can change what language u use in unreal engne?

[copper fable]

1>INFO:root: - ok
1>INFO:root:generating system library: libcxxabi.bc... (this will be cached in "D:\Program files\Epic Games\UE_4.19\Engine\Intermediate\Build\HTML5\EmscriptenCache\asmjs\libcxxabi.bc" for subsequent builds)
1>INFO:root: - ok
1>INFO:root:generating system library: gl.bc... (this will be cached in "D:\Program files\Epic Games\UE_4.19\Engine\Intermediate\Build\HTML5\EmscriptenCache\asmjs\gl.bc" for subsequent builds)
1>INFO:root: - ok
1>INFO:root:generating system library: dlmalloc.bc... (this will be cached in "D:\Program files\Epic Games\UE_4.19\Engine\Intermediate\Build\HTML5\EmscriptenCache\asmjs\dlmalloc.bc" for subsequent builds)
1>INFO:root: - ok
1>INFO:root:generating system library: libc.bc... (this will be cached in "D:\Program files\Epic Games\UE_4.19\Engine\Intermediate\Build\HTML5\EmscriptenCache\asmjs\libc.bc" for subsequent builds)

no haha

[upbeat eagle]

oh

[vale osprey]

@next parcel engine makes a number of assumptions in regards to the size of environment

[copper fable]

i just set up 2017 with it

and it is doing weird shit

[upbeat eagle]

hope it gets fixed

[next parcel]

@vale osprey thank you, I will keep this in mind

[copper fable]

probs to do with this :
https://gyazo.com/ed5e22967001ba7a5c07c76e08c4fd71

can i stop this build?

or will it fuck it up

[regal mulch]

You can stop that build

[vale osprey]

@next parcel I would approach this in reverse - not how fast you want to move but how fast you CAN move. Potential issues with very fast moving objects are following:

1. Collisions
2. Performance impact from need to "trace" and query larger areas
3. Ability to load/stream parts of the level fast enough
4. Impact on Navmesh for AI

all of it can be solved but not necessary in a trivial way

[dull wraith]

I don't know if anyone here is any good with Turn Based RPGs in Unreal Engine 4 but I was wondering where/what specifically I should focus on doing first? All I really need is a basic start, and I should be able to build from that on my own

[fierce tulip]

write down core mechanics, start with the basics. (i.e. move character a tile, etc)

[next parcel]

@vale osprey thanks for the advice. as a side note, if the physics based approach does not work. I was possibly going to approach this from the angle of a train cart on a track. so the vehicle will always follow the path of the spline
I would hope this would allow to reach higher speeds without worrying so much about physics issues, as in theory, it would just need to calculate how much further down the spline you would be and set actor position relative to this. these are all just ideas at the moment but will investigate that if this doesn't work out

[languid kindle]

You want to make something that handles who's turn it is, and a player template kind of thing that can handle abilities and such

[dull wraith]

Walking, Running, Jumping, Level up system, Class system, Turn Based Combat, Skills and Collecting Items are my core gameplay mechanics. The first 3 are already implemented in the third-person game startup. So I think the battle system is the most important, and yeah, I'll probably focus on handling turns.

[languid kindle]

How long do you have for your project? It sounds pretty big for your first experience

[dull wraith]

6 weeks. All I really need to do is make a turn based battle system similar to Pokemon, implement levels/stats/loot and basic items/skills. Then if I have time at the end, I can focus on how it looks, I just want to focus on how it plays first before graphics and audio

[fierce tulip]

things I dont like
selecting meshes in viewport, then wanting to move trough viewport with mouse, but it randomly decides to move the meshes instead

[regal mulch]

@dull wraith You want to think about what your game needs to be functional

[dull wraith]

This is what someone recommended me to do: "Start Simple. Make 1 player and 1 enemy, have 2 abilities to choose from (heavy attack and light attack), and get everything working. From there, you can start adding more ability, damage types, etc. I'd even hold off on animations and things like that until you can get the raw data working (health bars going down after choosing the attack options)."

[languid kindle]

That sounds like a good start yep

[upbeat eagle]

I have noticed in unreal if i stay at the ground for too long it gets brighter is there a way to disable that

[regal mulch]

1. Get the Battle setup in general. No Visuals, no Attacks yet. Make sure the whole Battle Cycle works: Start Battle, Switch Turns, End Battle.
2. Get the Turn setup in general. No visuals, no Attacks yet.Make sure the Turn starts and ends properly with either users being able to perform a simple print action.
3. Pokemon to the Battle, for now only Health.
4. Add Attacks to the Pokomen, integrate it to your already working Print String in Turns.
5. Update the "EndBattle" requirement to "All Pokemon dead".

[dull wraith]

What I'm thinking I might do is import an Infinity Blade warrior and adversary, create two abilities via structures/data tables, and then work on turn order. Or should i do turn order first (if so, where would I write blueprints to use the turn order

Nvm, thanks!

[languid kindle]

You can check #blueprint for help

[dull wraith]

Thank you!

[upbeat eagle]

http://prntscr.com/j6dpho am i doing lakes correctly

U get a water mesh place it on the ground and build small hills around it so you dont see the border of it

or should i make the entire map water and just build terrain over it

also is this outdated? https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Gameplay/HowTo/CharacterMovement/Blueprints/Setup_1

it says engine version 4.9 but from what i know im pretty sure that doesnt exist

wait there is but its old

[quasi lake]

Bros how to make it 60 frames per second in animation view?

It's 30fps now

[pallid compass]

Thats not how it works

your displaying 30 frames of animation

has nothing to do with playback fps

[quasi lake]

So how to display 60 frames a second in animation view

[pallid compass]

fps has nothing to do with ur frame count

[quasi lake]

I know,so what decides the frame counts persecond

[pallid compass]

the speed ofc?

and how many frames the animation is?

[quasi lake]

You mean in 3dmax?

[pallid compass]

in anything

i dont understand what ur trying to do

I dont think you understand how animation frames and fps works

[quasi lake]

I'm trying to do anything.I'm just wandering why the frames persecond in animation view will differ between different animations

in animation view not in real game play

[pallid compass]

because its the animation length?

its not fps

ur looking at FRAME COUNT

not FRAMES PER SECOND

[quasi lake]

I know so

So this animation has 450 frames in 0.85 second?

@pallid compass

[pallid compass]

to do with ur playrate export from ur animation software

[quasi lake]

3dsmax?

[pallid compass]

yes

or w/e u use

[quasi lake]

My animator says he did all animations the same way

[pallid compass]

u should use 30 fps playback tho

then he fucked up his export by the looks of it

[quasi lake]

Ok thanks

[analog pollen]

Getting some work done. Optimized the code by disabling the event tick when it's not necessary to use

[quasi lake]

Strange

I checked the max file,and it's in 1.0 play rate

Exported it normally,still 450 frames

[worthy fox]

Is there an easy way to find meshes within a project that doesn’t have a material assigned to it?

[pallid compass]

@quasi lake you need to check your playback options, its not rate its fps, so 30, 15, 60, 28 for pal i believe? etc

@worthy fox not really but

[quasi lake]

in 3dmax?

[pallid compass]

u could get the world grid material, and use the reference viewer

and PRAY

it tags mesh's with no materials

maybe?

yes 3ds max

[quasi lake]

Where is the playback button?

[pallid compass]

I havent used max in awhile im primarily Maya but

one of the bottom right settings i think?

[worthy fox]

Alright I will try that. I wish they could implement a feature to handle this. I have about 1000 meshes in my project now and it would be nice to filter them..

[pallid compass]

it gives you like fps options and shiz

Why do you have a 1000 meshes with no materials 😂

[quasi lake]

This one?

[pallid compass]

sounds like your project organisation is the issue i guess

i believe the frame rate setting corresponds to how many frames per second

so 30 fps setting, at 60 frames gives 2 seconds i believe?

dont quote me on this its been awhile

[worthy fox]

I imported my meshes from a Unity project I’m working on. In Unity they all use the same material, but when I import the meshes to Unreal a unique material is created for each mesh even though they should use the same... 😅

[pallid compass]

Delete all mesh's

reimport

disable import mesh

import material**

[quasi lake]

emmmm

Anyone familair with 3dmax animation?

[pallid compass]

ask in #animation

Also Myrath if u can use c++ i believe data validation system could help you check mesh's for materials maybe?

[worthy fox]

I’m not familiar with C++ yet.. 😎 So... I can “multi-assign” a material to multiple meshes at the same time? Bummer! 😂

[pallid compass]

I actually wrote a tutorial on it awhile ago, but u would have to override the function within engine source code, so u would need a git build

ahh

erm

Yes you can actually

Grab every object and use the property matrix editor

its like right click > another menu? forget the name > edit property matrix

it take awhile to gather 1000 meshs maybe

Asset action > properly matrix

[worthy fox]

Oh damn 😂😂😂 Thank you! Life owes me 4 hours of my “life” back.....

[pallid compass]

haha dw lmao

Migrating from 1 engine to another is never easy

suprised they all use the same material actually

If your doing that create a material instance of that material

and assign that too all of them

to save engine mat compile time

[worthy fox]

It’s a low poly game so the material only holds a texture with color information.. nothing too advanced 😎

[pallid compass]

yeah always good to optimise everywhere, increases platform reach

[silver steppe]

Can you import the 3rd pereon controller into an empty project?

[quasi lake]

I ask my TA friends and they checked my max file and said that frames or frames rate are all correct

But when some animations are exproted into ue4, frame counts just changed

The lengths are all right

[thorny cipher]

https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-57098

backlogged btw

wont be fixed for 20 versions btw

LUL

[pallid compass]

just tried it on 4.19

works fine

by sounds of it

who ever made that, there rig cant cope with logging

[regal mulch]

Reproduced in 4.19 and 4.20 while not affecting 4.18 doesn't sound like "rig can't cope the logging"

[pallid compass]

It happening to you?

i just tried it, i hitch for like half a second and thats it

but i remember it always being like that

[regal mulch]

Haven't tried.

[pallid compass]

profile logging has always been a big performance grab, eats tons of space, cpu, and a lil ram

[thorny cipher]

It happens to me

All stat commands hitch for me

Try stat startfile @pallid compass

[pallid compass]

works fine

[thorny cipher]

wtf

[pallid compass]

pause for like half a second

if that

[thorny cipher]

Keep it running for 30 seconds

see how many times it hitches

[pallid compass]

nothing

[thorny cipher]

specs?

it seems to be related to the 9xx range of GTX

[pallid compass]

6800k at 4.2ghz, ddr4 ram, m.2 / u,2 SSD's titan xp

[thorny cipher]

lol

[pallid compass]

its training my cpu tho

like fuck

draining*

[thorny cipher]

Yeah they've done something

https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/772734/419-stutter-and-thread-hitches.html

[pallid compass]

what cpu u got?

[thorny cipher]

Older gen, but still 4.17.2 runs perfectly

[pallid compass]

Profiling in general tends to be super performance draining in term's of cpu, as its basically like "do everything for game, also write EVERYTHING down"

[thorny cipher]

Yeah but it's a regression

It shouldn't be using that much CPU

That it causes hitching

[pallid compass]

the bigger ur game / complex the more it has to write

its a very intensive process dont forget

[thorny cipher]

It hitches in a blank project.

[pallid compass]

wtf lmao

[thorny cipher]

yeah..

[pallid compass]

sounds like ur rig then maybe?

what engine ver?

[thorny cipher]

4.19.1 source built

and launcher version both hitch

4.17.2 no hitching at all

[pallid compass]

4.15 to 4.19 iv been profiling and no issue

hmmm

thats odd

[thorny cipher]

yeah the fact it hitches in a blank project set off some alarm bells 😄

engine and the project is on SSD

[pallid compass]

looks like its very specific to people then, as this is the first iv heard of it

u would think it would be noticed by epic since they do alot of profiling constantly

[thorny cipher]

The hitch is just CPU stalls

When it hitches the CPU goes to 100%

[pallid compass]

yeah ur cpu is exploding wth

[thorny cipher]

in a blank project 😄

[pallid compass]

i wonder why

its only like 30% slower than mine

[thorny cipher]

yeah exactly and 4.17 works perfectly

https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/772734/419-stutter-and-thread-hitches.html

This guy is on similar hardware

Actually nvm he has 1080

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (8 CPUs), ~4.0GHz

Same processor range as me

He has the unlocked edition

So something with this range it seems

47xx

[pallid compass]

could be a driver thing maybe

no idea way out my scope tbh

[thorny cipher]

FML.

[pallid compass]

for now ur just gonna have to brain profile

[thorny cipher]

haha

i think my mobo is out of date to upgrade..

[pallid compass]

yeah it prob is

[thorny cipher]

what do cpus run for these days

[pallid compass]

thats old af

depends what u want, what range etc, do u wann future proof, blah blah

[thorny cipher]

latest probs

[pallid compass]

well i7 or i9 then

[thorny cipher]

latest i7

won't be able to buy i9

😄

what series are we up to

8700?

[pallid compass]

just get a decent motherboard with 8XXX i5 or i7

then u can upgrade later on

hard if u want

i believe last two gen's run on the same socket

[thorny cipher]

well an i5 latest gen would be better than my i7