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modern perch Jul 31, 2018, 2:12 PM

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Luxembourg, I think

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would need to check

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yeah, Luxembourg

robust vector Jul 31, 2018, 2:13 PM

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I only meant that the person responding to your emails is likely to read a phrase like "healtcare/rent support" as "bizarre foreign stuff" if you don't explain it very thoroughly. I know because I'm an American and that's what it looks like to me. 😛

elfin plinth Jul 31, 2018, 2:17 PM

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you don't have to deal with the VAT as seller as you are never given that money that includes it

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also Epic overcharges you for that depending on the country you sell into

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I did the math in the past and the Epics cut (which was 30% at that time) could have gotten well over 40% on countries like switcherland

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I'm pretty sure they are vague about all this so people wouldn't question it

delicate dove Jul 31, 2018, 2:19 PM

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asking my finances guy to explain in depth to me what it will mean, what I can do to improve the situation and will inform the mp-team what kind of situation it might cause after he send me an email about it. Amanda was so kind to inform me that if I really do get negative numbers they'll work with me to try and ease that situation. which I humbly appreciate

elfin plinth Jul 31, 2018, 2:20 PM

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the idea is that Epic store charges all EU customers the same, but these countries have different VAT percentage

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and the sellers get same dollar fee per asset regardless where it's sold

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which is pretty funky way to deal with this

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you can do the math and it will not add up

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in addition, EU prices are way higher than currency conversion + VAT

idle arch Jul 31, 2018, 2:21 PM

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Ultimately our goal in this whole thing was to do a good deed. There are many factors that go into something like this, it is rather unique water. The last thing we want to do is impact someone in a negative way, the opposite is true. We want to be able to celebrate this with everyone. There will be bumps in the road, but we'll get over them.

elfin plinth Jul 31, 2018, 2:22 PM

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I don't really get why you don't just pay the amount of asset that customer paid minus the buyers VAT minus Epics cut

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instead you pay flat fee set by seller for the asset

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I don't know the exact figure but amount of extra on EU prices used to be something like 25-30%

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then if you sell in countries that have super low VAT, like 8%, epic's share gets way bigger

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I'm guessing you guys tried to keep this simple but you shouldn't say it's some percentage Epic takes if it's not

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do note that I'm not a seller, I dunno if actual asset providers are pissed off about this 😄

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it's just an observation from time when I tried to figure out how your VAT system works as a buyer

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(as you guys refused to write a receipt which has exact VAT amount on purchase)

idle arch Jul 31, 2018, 2:26 PM

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I don't understand tax, hell I have trouble understanding money (ask my wife). I avoid that stuff like I avoid my check engine light

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I have to run to a meeting, bbiab

delicate dove Jul 31, 2018, 2:29 PM

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every time I think I understand it a little better I understand that I know even less about it than I thought hehe

wooden falcon Jul 31, 2018, 2:52 PM

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lol, was looking though other people's packs (OPP) and saw this comment: "May i please get a refund i'm not good with UE4 and done with game development. kind regards... thank you."

robust vector Jul 31, 2018, 2:52 PM

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@delicate dove That's how I feel about what causes blueprints to corrupt

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@wooden falcon At least that guy is honest

wooden falcon Jul 31, 2018, 2:57 PM

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yah, and polite

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I'd imagine that's probably the #1 reason people want a refund: "oops, game making is hard"

robust vector Jul 31, 2018, 2:58 PM

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Pro Tip: You're more likely to get a refund by being honest and nice than you are by lying about the product you bought, but you still aren't entitled to one either way.

elfin plinth Jul 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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pro tip: don't get third party assets so you don't have to try refund them kappa

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besides, if you need to buy a blueprint script to move an elevator, you may want to reconsider the career path already

vapid tundra Jul 31, 2018, 4:57 PM

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I'd actually welcome a limit of refunds possible.

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even learning a lesson should have its price.

robust vector Jul 31, 2018, 5:00 PM

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Nah, we'd have better games if bigger studios would use more stock assets

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Imagine what all the money AAA studios have spent on modelling wooden crates could have otherwise gone to

delicate dove Jul 31, 2018, 5:10 PM

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considering dropping my mp-items about 5 dollars each since that would still net me more gains due to the 12%

tiny heron Jul 31, 2018, 5:19 PM

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I think it’s 18%

delicate dove Jul 31, 2018, 5:22 PM

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yea I keep mixing the two

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in a non-alcoholic mixing way

idle arch Jul 31, 2018, 8:21 PM

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Aww, that is cool Luos.

wooden falcon Jul 31, 2018, 8:44 PM

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cool, maybe I can finally afford your cave pack! 😃

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not that it was too expensive to begin with

delicate dove Jul 31, 2018, 11:00 PM

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XD
@idle arch
https://i.gyazo.com/aa99d545d490415cd02aec41913b6d6c.png

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gee, I wonder what that second email adres could be

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lostinspacewithoutshoes@

lone mountain Jul 31, 2018, 11:04 PM

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I was about to ask why you had 3 *

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But I am assuming it's LuosArts

delicate dove Jul 31, 2018, 11:04 PM

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no, just luos

lone mountain Jul 31, 2018, 11:04 PM

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what

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why 3

delicate dove Jul 31, 2018, 11:05 PM

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automatically replaces the center with ***

sullen lion Jul 31, 2018, 11:05 PM

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to mask the length

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same as why its 3 for longer emails

lone mountain Jul 31, 2018, 11:05 PM

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i see

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I guess it tricked me, so it did its job

delicate dove Jul 31, 2018, 11:05 PM

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hehe

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i do have a few other @silk ruin stuffs, but none end with s besides luos

sullen lion Jul 31, 2018, 11:06 PM

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nice

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you should add lostinspacewithoutshoes@

delicate dove Jul 31, 2018, 11:06 PM

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oddly it also had the email adress I deleted from the launcher like half a year ago

sullen lion Jul 31, 2018, 11:06 PM

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can be an in joke or w/e

delicate dove Jul 31, 2018, 11:06 PM

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i should

weary orchid Aug 1, 2018, 3:55 PM

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https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/ultimate-fps-weapons-pack-vr-ready

Ultimate FPS Weapons Pack (VR ready) by ChamferZone in Weapons - U...

22 triple A quality weapon models and textures for your Unreal project.

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anyone know if there is anyway to still buy these?

robust vector Aug 1, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Individually from his CG Trader?

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I actually just got the flare gun and revolver for my project a couple of days ago

weary orchid Aug 1, 2018, 4:17 PM

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duh my bad

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https://chamferzone.com/3d-shop/

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just ordered directly from the seller

robust vector Aug 1, 2018, 4:18 PM

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Didn't know they had their own site

weary orchid Aug 1, 2018, 4:19 PM

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robust vector Aug 1, 2018, 4:20 PM

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The UE4 version of his pack probably got killed by Epic's decision to make up their own copyright rules

oak fiber Aug 1, 2018, 6:46 PM

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Lol. Make up? Interesting spin

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I think if you replace the word makeup with the word enforce you might have an argument

robust vector Aug 1, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Enforcing rules they made on their own that aren't part of copyright law and were completely different than their previous policy

oak fiber Aug 1, 2018, 9:27 PM

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And because case law is still open-ish around the idea of digital replicas vs physical, you want them to stick out their neck in case some Smith and Wesson asshole company wants to sue them because, why not, they got fortnite money now?

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I am pretty sure, just because there is no "LAW" doesnt mean you need to pick the least ethical choice out there to satisfy your greedy pocket

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that is the choice they seem to have made, I congradulate them.

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also, not to harp, but:

were completely different than their previous policy

is non-sensical. The policy is the policy is the policy. It is subject to change, at will, as its literally, their policy. There is no arguement to say "you used to do it like this!!!" -- loller, and?

worn oyster Aug 1, 2018, 10:22 PM

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is this the ban on 3d printed weapons thing? 😛

robust vector Aug 1, 2018, 10:22 PM

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🤷 Not sure what you mean by "least ethical"

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It didn't really impact me as a seller because I barely sell weapons, but it sucks for sellers like IronBelly that specifically consulted with Epic on the products they made, only for Epic to change their terms, remove their products, and kill their revenue.

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As a buyer its inconvenient because I have to go elsewhere for weapon models.

oak fiber Aug 2, 2018, 2:05 AM

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least ethical being teh choice of doing things you know are not really ok, like using someone's designs, regardless of case-law around it, for a profit

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instead of being original, with original design, you are shady in your ethics of where you "source" your designs

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ethics isnt just a 6 letter word

robust vector Aug 2, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Yeah, nobody should be allowed to replicate real life objects in fiction

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Or even mention them for that matter

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Take a picture with a wall in the background? Better pay royalties to Sherwin Williams. That's a proprietary taupe .

oak fiber Aug 2, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Didnt say that, but, common sense is a thing as well.

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You can, of course, like I said, be the person who wants to make case law

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or, you can do like Epic, and leave that for someone else's lawyers

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but, yes, I do agree, to a large extent, that ideas, while fungible, can be tangible as well

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Guns are a physical item; copying their likeness is just that.

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If you want a "new" gun, that is unique in design, dont copy someone elses.

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Seems, like I said, common sense like.

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the analogy you used is a little off the mark, btw. One is a color (taupe) versus a physically made item with actual assmelby plans and other patented parts, along with the assembly line process

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you could argue the paint chemcial compound is IP, and the process to make it, and even the end product BRAND OF paint, but the actual color, no.

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just like this 🔫

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is not a copywritten image.

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again, common sense.

robust vector Aug 2, 2018, 4:47 AM

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Did you miss the part on the forums where they said that you can't have a silhouette that resembles the real thing? Nobody was putting copyrighted markings or brand names on the weapons. They've forbidden design elements that aren't even still held as IP by the manufacturers.

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https://forums.unrealengine.com/filedata/fetch?id=1410169&d=1515490562

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I don't know if you can view that, but its basically an image with everything different about one of PanAtoman's models circling every detail that is different from a G17 Glock, but Epic still said it looked too much like the real thing because the silhouette was similar.

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IRL, you can't copyright functional elements of the design to begin with.

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Basically, that emoji you used is too close to a Ruger Redhawk by their standards

elfin plinth Aug 2, 2018, 7:24 AM

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that does look like colt revolver tho

lilac heath Aug 2, 2018, 1:03 PM

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What keeps being over looked in the whole copyright debacle.
Pattent is a process, concept or Mechanical systems that can be documented and sighned by a lawyer.
What were really discussing is the intellectual property which does include things like colour , design,layout, information, trademark. All come under copyright
So if your weapon has the same outline as another gun but you changed some minor components, your desighn would/ could be in breach of the intellectual property asighned to that weapon, the only hard fast way of confirming there is no breach is have a copyright layer get involved.
I do agree with this blanket approach it is epic taking it is definitely protecting developers that are using the marketplace with out foundation or knowledge of copyright, IP and trademarks. It's not perfict but it's an excellent start.

oak fiber Aug 2, 2018, 7:34 PM

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The silhouette of a gun is a design element. The very fact that you are a little ignorant of copyright law shows in fact why epic did exactly what they did

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And exactly in line with what purple dolphin outlined in his last paragraph

robust vector Aug 2, 2018, 8:47 PM

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The laws are correct and just the way they are. No reason to make your own rules up. Especially not when you can't even offer an explanation of what the rules actually are.

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Its not really protecting anyone when you're just pushing people to buy from other sites.

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"One is a color (taupe) versus a physically made item with actual assmelby plans and other patented parts, along with the assembly line process"

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Replace "One is a color" with "One is a set of vertex data matched with a set of pixel data" and you've made a perfect metaphor for 3d models of guns vs irl guns.

brave kettle Aug 2, 2018, 9:09 PM

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In other news I'm completely pumped for the holidays this year. I'm gonna have enough spare change to buy a ton of assets I've been wanting forever to play with in the UE4. Can't waittttt!!!

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I love all the hand painted texture kinda stuff. I wants it all 😃

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To me UE4 is basically adult legos/ minecraft. I have alot of fun playing around and learning

north stirrup Aug 2, 2018, 9:11 PM

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You're not the only one 😛

brave kettle Aug 2, 2018, 9:13 PM

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I give UE4 full permission to use my slogan "UE4, welcome to adult legos"... but there's the whole copyright issues and then people thinking "adult" means porn/sex related... which I guess if you look hard enough on the marketplace you could probably find some stripper animations so.... it wouldn't be wrong I suppose

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I maxed out my shopping cart on ue4.... I has a sad now.. can't stuff all the other stuff I want. I tried looking for the buy all button but to no avail

patent ginkgo Aug 3, 2018, 8:02 AM

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Yeah 20E GWfroggyBlobThonk

robust vector Aug 3, 2018, 8:43 AM

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If you want to add variety to NPCs, or need a starting point for a character customizer, Proportionalizer is a good choice.

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https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/proportionalizer-easy-character-model-proportion-adjustments

Proportionalizer: Easy Character Model Proportion Adjustments by B...

Proportionalizer makes proportion adjustments to character models easy, extending their customization and useability.

oak fiber Aug 3, 2018, 3:48 PM

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@brave kettle the issue you have with what you said has nothing to do with the word adult but with the word Lego

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You would get sued by Lego over the use of their literal word Lego

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As for replacing colors with Vertex or whatever again go talk to a copyright lawyer instead of trying to play one on the internet

agile crest Aug 3, 2018, 11:39 PM

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Wasn't sure if this question goes here or unreal chat. I am just curious, would I be able to make money by creating something in ue4 or even making assets then importing them into a blank project and selling it on the marketplace?

vapid tundra Aug 4, 2018, 8:04 AM

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depends on what exactly you want to offer i guess

lunar fractal Aug 4, 2018, 8:14 AM

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yeah and your expectations with "making money"

zealous ibex Aug 4, 2018, 8:25 AM

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^ All of the above - and I'd say a lot comes down to Marketing, and how much people want/need what you're creating

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Also - importing them into a blank project and selling isn't really something I'd reccomend - I'd make sure everything (yes, even art) works really well with UE4, and that you try and create something like an example with what you're selling

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For art that could be A. the required overview map, and depending on what you're creating, B. a small sample level using the assets you've created. For a plugin it could be an example project showcasing what your plugin can do, and for Blueprints you can do roughly the same as the plugin

lunar fractal Aug 4, 2018, 8:29 AM

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Very true and be prepared to support your products quite some time (bugs/feature request/engine updates etc)

zealous ibex Aug 4, 2018, 11:30 AM

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^ And (not sure how this is for art, but for Plugins/BP I'd 10000% say this is a must) docs are really important

oak fiber Aug 4, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Oh man you mean I actually have to do work? I can't just sell empty templates as product? #dreamkillers

robust vector Aug 5, 2018, 1:53 AM

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TBH, you'll probably make more money selling empty templates

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From character bundles to meat chainsaws, I've got a selection of good things on sale at the moment if anyone would like to take a peak. https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Black+Fang+Technologies

ebon leaf Aug 6, 2018, 2:49 AM

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:/ If someome pays $50 for a http plugin in ue4 deserves it. And if anyone uses a http call in a tick function and wonders why it crashes shouldn't make a game for while 🤐

granite bay Aug 6, 2018, 3:16 AM

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https://prazon.itch.io/smash-kit a pretty good project

itch.io

Smash Kit by Prazon

Smash Kit in Unreal Engine 4

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in progress if interested check it out

ebon leaf Aug 6, 2018, 4:11 AM

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I like the style

ebon leaf Aug 6, 2018, 8:38 AM

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guys, is it just me or got everything on the marketplace got cheaper?

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about 20% cheaper

zealous ibex Aug 6, 2018, 8:49 AM

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Where do you reside?

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Pretty sure they're still the same here, but don't quote me on that

vapid tundra Aug 6, 2018, 8:51 AM

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some are even more expensive 😛

zealous ibex Aug 6, 2018, 8:52 AM

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Maybe a VAT change or something like that? 🤔

ebon leaf Aug 6, 2018, 8:57 AM

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yeah 20% would be around what the VAT is

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i live in germany

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lol it went up again, but its still not the same price as yesterday

vapid tundra Aug 6, 2018, 8:58 AM

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perhaps a glitch in the system hehe

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prices are almost the same as yesterday here (also Germany)

zealous ibex Aug 6, 2018, 11:31 AM

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Wait....there isn't a way to filter results based on type/category? 😮

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Please tell me I'm missing something lol

robust vector Aug 7, 2018, 10:37 AM

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https://imgur.com/TvCr0M5

Imgur

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https://imgur.com/A1IhD57

Imgur

hexed wadi Aug 7, 2018, 1:37 PM

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Guys, I'm getting a weird error packaging my plugin in version 4.20

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I get this error in the log:

<>c.<PrintExceptionInfo>b__4_1: ==============================================================================
<>c.<PrintExceptionInfo>b__4_0: ERROR: UBT ERROR: Failed to produce item: C:\Users\berio\Desktop\TweenMaker20\TweenMaker\HostProject\Plugins\TweenMaker\Binaries\Win64\UE4Editor-TweenMaker.dll
<>c.<PrintExceptionInfo>b__4_0:        (see D:\Development\Epic Games\UE_4.20\Engine\Programs\AutomationTool\Saved\Logs\UBT-UE4Editor-Win64-Development.txt for full exception trace)
<>c.<PrintExceptionInfo>b__4_1: 
<>c.<PrintExceptionInfo>b__4_1: BuildException: UBT ERROR: Failed to produce item: C:\Users\berio\Desktop\TweenMaker20\TweenMaker\HostProject\Plugins\TweenMaker\Binaries\Win64\UE4Editor-TweenMaker.dll
<>c.<PrintExceptionInfo>b__4_1:    at UnrealBuildTool.ActionGraph.ExecuteActions(BuildConfiguration BuildConfiguration, List`1 ActionsToExecute, Boolean bIsRemoteCompile, String& ExecutorName, String TargetInfoForTelemetry, EHotReload HotReload) in D:\Development\Epic Games\UE_4.20\Engine\Source\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\System\ActionGraph.cs:line 570
<>c.<PrintExceptionInfo>b__4_1:    at UnrealBuildTool.UnrealBuildTool.RunUBT(BuildConfiguration BuildConfiguration, String[] Arguments, FileReference ProjectFile, Boolean bCatchExceptions) in D:\Development\Epic Games\UE_4.20\Engine\Source\Programs\UnrealBuildTool\UnrealBuildTool.cs:line 1673
<>c.<PrintExceptionInfo>b__4_1: ==============================================================================

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Everything was fine in version 4.19...

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Did this happen to anyone else?

idle arch Aug 7, 2018, 3:50 PM

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@hexed wadi Can you send your full log to: marketplace-support@unrealengine.com

hexed wadi Aug 7, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Actually solved it a few minutes ago 😃 there was a problem with some headers. It's weird, since it did compile and only showed the errors when packaging

zealous ibex Aug 7, 2018, 4:53 PM

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Yeah - there was a change with 4.20 with how public includes work, anyway, glad you managed to get it to work 😃

robust vector Aug 7, 2018, 9:13 PM

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4.20 made a lot of changes that only show up when trying to package and don't effect compilation

robust vector Aug 7, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Nearly ready to submit this one

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https://imgur.com/wzJzlCk

Imgur

pliant forum Aug 7, 2018, 10:43 PM

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Looking good!
https://gyazo.com/16f86506a7c8942e10403077d9133345
This though, looks like he is in a lot of pain

Gyazo

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Knee -> Foot rotation

robust vector Aug 7, 2018, 10:59 PM

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That animation probably looks better in motion, so I won't begrudge Frank's Fighting Game Motions too much

robust vector Aug 7, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Here's a front/back/side

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https://imgur.com/k2YbNfH

Imgur

lone mountain Aug 8, 2018, 12:47 AM

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So he shoots out nerf bullets

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Op

robust vector Aug 8, 2018, 1:10 AM

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😛

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He shoots out bad compression on imgur bullets mostly

wooden falcon Aug 8, 2018, 2:08 PM

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I like the way this looks: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/dungeon-areas

Dungeon Areas by Laali Unit in Environments - UE4 Marketplace

Modular Environment Pack for the Creation of Dungeon Areas.

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reminds me of Dungeon Keeper a bit

robust vector Aug 8, 2018, 2:33 PM

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Krisper (marginally) Koga image https://imgur.com/rMOViW6

Imgur

wooden falcon Aug 9, 2018, 1:35 AM

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https://twitter.com/joewintergreen/status/1027366981140283392

Joe Wintergreen (@joewintergreen)

@MichaelAllar @TimSweeneyEpic @EpicGames every time i start to think about submitting something to the marketplace again something iffy happens with it tbh

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concerning

fleet garnet Aug 9, 2018, 1:49 AM

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wait why wouldn't we be able to disclose our revenue information 🤔

wooden falcon Aug 9, 2018, 1:50 AM

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dunno, it's never been an issue before

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hell, there are threads where many of us have revealed numbers

fleet garnet Aug 9, 2018, 1:52 AM

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it's seems like it got added by mistake 🤷

(actually nevermind this part)

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gaunt flicker Aug 9, 2018, 2:15 AM

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Stop reading my twitter

sullen lion Aug 9, 2018, 2:26 AM

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no u

wooden falcon Aug 9, 2018, 1:26 PM

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hmmm...something's not right with that message...what if I replace "that" with...omg..."We think we can eliminate Allar shortly"

robust vector Aug 9, 2018, 1:28 PM

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Actually, I think it was "We think we can eliminate Black Fang Technologies' revenue shortly."

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JK

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Message would have been written in May to make that make sense

wooden falcon Aug 9, 2018, 1:59 PM

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😃

fleet garnet Aug 9, 2018, 2:08 PM

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my sales dropped a lot since the summer started, anyone else in the same boat as me?

fair kernel Aug 9, 2018, 2:23 PM

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Anyone here Own Platformer Animset?

zealous ibex Aug 9, 2018, 2:29 PM

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I'd say mine have dropped a bit, but are still at a point where I'd consider it reasonable

robust vector Aug 9, 2018, 3:55 PM

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For me, plugin sales dropped, but by a margin I would expect for the Summer. Character sales were totally eradicated when the Paragon dump happened.

wicked pebble Aug 9, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Hey, is anyone in the epic staff able to help out with some payment-related issues?

robust vector Aug 9, 2018, 7:10 PM

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Jeeze. I can't even move units on a discounted 3-character pack for a price less than I used to sell one of the characters in the pack for not half a year ago

wicked pebble Aug 9, 2018, 7:42 PM

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Which hone?

ebon leaf Aug 9, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Hello, can someone advice me a good Plugin to create multiple Planets (not procedurally, I don't need it) as Landscapes? So have something like 4-5 handmade landscapes that are Planets

zealous ibex Aug 9, 2018, 8:43 PM

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Not heard of one - but would you want them as meshes, more as an object, and which scale? ie. should they be true-scale, or can they be small(er).

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(true-scale would require some insane loading and unloading 😂 Planets tend to be pretty huge)

robust vector Aug 9, 2018, 10:07 PM

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https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/mechanoid-soldiers-bft-character-bundle

Mechanoid Soldiers: BFT Character Bundle 01 by Black Fang Technolo...

This bundle pack contains three of our top-selling characters, all themed around being mechanically enhanced, power-armor wearing, super soldiers. The pack contains Cyberneticist Zeke, SciFi Destroyer Xander, and SciFi Enforcer Rick.

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Zeke was a fairly hot seller in his own right during Winter and early Spring

rustic siren Aug 10, 2018, 12:24 AM

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/09/germany-lifts-ban-nazi-symbols-video-games/
New surge of MP content incoming alex alex alex alex

The Telegraph

Germany lifts ban on Nazi symbols in video games

Computer and video games can include swastikas and other Nazi symbols, a German industry body said Thursday, after a heated debate over the "Wolfenstein" franchise in which gamers battle Third Reich forces.

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^ https://im.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-1-171356475f.gif

robust vector Aug 10, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Its nice to get a piece of good news with regards to free expression for once

glass gale Aug 10, 2018, 6:38 AM

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w3studios

pliant forum Aug 10, 2018, 1:26 PM

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Where do I apply for my product to enter the Featured Products pool? That and making it go on a "sale" is something I've tried to finding out without success

zealous ibex Aug 10, 2018, 2:35 PM

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For sales you need to email marketplace-support, and they send a form of every so often for you to enter the featured content pool (they haven't sent one out for quite a while)

pliant forum Aug 10, 2018, 3:03 PM

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I see, thanks for the information, now I don't have to keep looking. Couldn't find anything about it online or on the sellers page

last mango Aug 12, 2018, 11:02 PM

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@blazing harbor and @robust vector Please read the #old-rules, this is not a platform for you to promote your own products.

lone mountain Aug 12, 2018, 11:58 PM

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??

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Since when has that been a rule in #fab

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@last mango

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It's been happening since the beginning of the channel

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And there's nothing bad about it from a consumer's viewpoint

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If anything, maybe limiting it is better than outright banning it

sullen lion Aug 13, 2018, 12:00 AM

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and the rule says slackers aren't your customers, but this is the one area where they probabaly are.

lone mountain Aug 13, 2018, 12:01 AM

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Yeah, better than just random bitches, moans, and complaints

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about MP rules, staff, procedures

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(although other than wait times, I have seen a massive decrease in them as of late, doesn't hurt they gave out free $$)

last mango Aug 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

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Rule 6 is pretty clear, rule 9 is also pretty clear. No where have we ever stated that it is ok to promote your assets here.

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We do not want #fab to be spammed by people posting links to their assets. End of story.

robust vector Aug 13, 2018, 12:24 AM

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@last mango Which channel is the correct channel for discovery of marketplace products?

last mango Aug 13, 2018, 12:37 AM

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This Server is not an catalog for Marketplace products. Promotion for the means of attracting customers of any product is against the rules.

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You are free to discuss marketplace practices, strategies and the like. But promoting your assets in the hopes of gaining sales (which was clearly your goal) is in direct violation of the rules and no where has it ever been allowed.

blazing harbor Aug 13, 2018, 2:06 AM

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ive seen it done a million times here and never seen a warning. thats literally the first time ive ever linked one of my assets. lol. lucky me

broken heron Aug 13, 2018, 2:24 AM

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I've seen people post their products in here so many times. I thought that's what this channel was for. I would open this channel to see new assets people were making available.

last mango Aug 13, 2018, 2:51 AM

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To be fully honest with you guys, i rarely look into this channel 😃 I apologies for the seemingly double standards but i will do my best to be more consistent in the future.

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As it stands i firmly believe that promoting your own assets is against the rules and you shouldnt be doing it.

lone mountain Aug 13, 2018, 3:10 AM

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@last mango Just curious, has anyone actually complained about people "marketing" their marketplace assets in this channel ever in the past however long that this channel has been open for?

I, as a consumer would love to know if someone has something good to sell (especially if it's a new release), but even more so if it's something at a good discount. Rather than banning all marketing, perhaps there could just be a set limit as to how many times someone can market their stuff per week? I mean, that's even if there's a need to even limit them, as again, I've never heard anyone complain about it.

It's one thing about people promoting their games (which should totally still be allowed in #work-in-progress no?), we already allow marketing of ones-self in #looking-for-work , with people "spamming" that thing every week/two weeks.

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(also, I don't troll around the epic launcher, and by extension the marketplace, I usually open my project via P4V, so when I do glance in this channel and someone's promoting something new, could be of interest to me)

last mango Aug 13, 2018, 4:00 AM

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@lone mountain Yes they have, which prompted my reaction to delete them.

We will discuss it further internally and see what we can work out.

robust vector Aug 13, 2018, 4:26 AM

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I slipped and dropped a link to a channel where anybody can promote an asset if they wish

zealous spire Aug 13, 2018, 4:52 AM

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@robust vector We also don't allow links to other Discord servers. Please, read the rules.

robust vector Aug 13, 2018, 4:55 AM

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Actually, your rules say you don't allow links of any kind outside of the WIP channel, but best I can tell, that has never been enforced.

zealous spire Aug 13, 2018, 5:00 AM

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You're quoting the rule titled "Strictly no advertising." The rule refers to links that are advertising your projects.

robust vector Aug 13, 2018, 5:03 AM

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Which rule were you referencing about discord links?

leaden root Aug 13, 2018, 5:04 AM

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While it is against the rules, I've never seen anyone here really abuse it. Majority that frequent this channel seem fine with it

zealous spire Aug 13, 2018, 5:05 AM

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@robust vector The same rule.

leaden root Aug 13, 2018, 5:05 AM

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A nice compromise would be like a #fab-promotion channel, since alot of us have been using this channel for years to find out about new products

robust vector Aug 13, 2018, 5:05 AM

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Yeah, I didn't write those, so its not really my fault if its not clear what the rules mean

zealous spire Aug 13, 2018, 5:05 AM

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@leaden root Yeah I understand. As DevilsD said, we'll discuss it again to figure out if we're off base and come up with a new solution if need be.

leaden root Aug 13, 2018, 5:06 AM

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<3

robust vector Aug 13, 2018, 5:06 AM

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Rule says no links + I see links everywhere = I don't really understand what the rule was intended to mean

zealous spire Aug 13, 2018, 5:07 AM

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It should be obvious that everything in that rule is related to advertising.

robust vector Aug 13, 2018, 5:08 AM

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Its not obvious what you count as advertising

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You have a rule that says absolutely no advertising + a channel dedicated to advertising available jobs + a channel dedicated to advertising job skills and availability for hire

zealous spire Aug 13, 2018, 5:10 AM

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And that's explicitly called out in the rule.

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Please read it carefully.

last mango Aug 13, 2018, 5:10 AM

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How do you misunderstand this • No Discord Server or other community group invites.

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?

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Pretty obvious mate.

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Like come on.

zealous spire Aug 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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It's a fair criticism that the list of items we consider advertising isn't 100% consistent in terms of formatting, I'll give you that. Maybe we can improve there.

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But the job board channels are explicitly referenced in the rule text.

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If you have any more questions or concerns about the rules, please bring it up in #server-feedback.

robust vector Aug 13, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Can you give an example of this channel's intended use?

last mango Aug 13, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Continue the discussion in #server-feedback please mate.

worn oyster Aug 13, 2018, 1:48 PM

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im gunna have to side with victor, if ppl dont promote here its basically the most salty place ever 😛

wooden falcon Aug 13, 2018, 1:52 PM

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no promotion in a channel called marketplace is like no beer in a pub :/

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the only promotion I feel is inappropriate is non-ue4 related promotion

pliant forum Aug 13, 2018, 2:01 PM

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There needs to be a limit/restrictions to it though. Unless we want a spam fest, the exposure would be minimal either way if everyone started posting their assets here

wooden falcon Aug 13, 2018, 2:01 PM

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yah, I think it would die down when they realize it results in no additional sales 😃

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as for something more related to the channel, ouch: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/country-house

Country House by Gabro Media in Environments - UE4 Marketplace

Small country cottage

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looks like a really nice pack

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but someone gave it a 1 star and a bad review :/

pliant forum Aug 13, 2018, 2:03 PM

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There would be more sense in creating a #AssetPromotion or a promotional channel of sort, were people who are interested in posting their assets, and people who wanna see people post their asset, can hang around

oak fiber Aug 13, 2018, 2:04 PM

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@last mango got to be honest man you say you never look in this Channel and that's got to be true because all you have to do is look back a couple days and you can see assets being posted.

Don't think I've ever come in here for a week and not seen assets posted.

Obtuse is an ugly color.

zealous ibex Aug 13, 2018, 2:53 PM

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I personally stopped posting when the rules changed - so I guess enforcing them is fair for the more cautious crowd that doesn't want to break any rules, but I do think that there should be a restricted and/or seperate channel way of sharing content

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If I'm not mistaken one of the big unity servers had a really nice way of doing it including something like asset of the day or something, I'm not 100% sure as I recently left due to not really using Unity (anymore) 🤔

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(Just for the record - I never complained to any mods about people advertising. I don't really mind it that much, it's just that I didn't do it myself)

lone mountain Aug 13, 2018, 2:57 PM

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wtf

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POS discord and their screenshot filter

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sigh

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📎 unknown.png

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not sure why that got flagged, had to crop it out a bit more

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@wooden falcon I mean, this is the reason

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Not modular. It's a one-time use house

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Someone's college project

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Which TBH, is a great idea to try to put up there and sell afterwards

zealous ibex Aug 13, 2018, 3:05 PM

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That pack looks pretty awesome, but I guess parts of the description can be misinterpreted by the customer. I don't get why the response (of the guy who created it) was downvoted though 🤔 And I guess it isn't fully modular (the props do appear to be), but I guess if you wanted a fully modular house of that standard you'd be paying way more

wooden falcon Aug 13, 2018, 3:16 PM

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sometimes a pack is just a house 😃

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as long as he didn't misrepresent it as modular

thorn gust Aug 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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If someone needs assets I have over 100GB assets ready for UE and sell it for good prices 😃

zealous ibex Aug 13, 2018, 5:27 PM

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Are you talking about publishing assets on the UE4 marketplace, or do you have assets (from the marketplace) that you're reselling for a (better) price?

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If you're selling (and you want don't want to publish on the UE4 marketplace) you can consider gumroad/itch/sellfy/a few others by the way - that looks way less shady ^^

wooden falcon Aug 13, 2018, 5:35 PM

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yah, from you statement, I feel like these assets fell off the back of a truck

sullen lion Aug 13, 2018, 5:43 PM

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Yeah I definitely get the vibe you "collected" these off forum projects and are selling them as if you had distribution rights

thorn gust Aug 13, 2018, 6:49 PM

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Lol noo I spend over 25.000$ in the last years.
And something someone needs only small parts and don’t want to buy an full pack. But if this is not aloud to promote so let me know then I will delete this 😃

zealous ibex Aug 13, 2018, 7:04 PM

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Nice 😮

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@thorn gust Are you aware of the fact you're not allowed to redistribute or sell the stuff on the marketplace (in a source // non-cooked form)? Just for the record: I don't work for the marketplace, and do not claim the above information as correct in any form. You should refer to the official Unreal Engine 4 (Marketplace) EULA.

timber fjord Aug 13, 2018, 7:12 PM

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copyright strike

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FBI Open up

gleaming lance Aug 13, 2018, 7:45 PM

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the main problem , to promote our asset as a publisher on intenet become more harder every days , before selling assets and work as a freelance composer / sound designer i was on Marketing for Agency consulting . internet early 2000/2010 it was a free ride : using reddit/r , AMA , CMR on twitter or FB worked pretty fine . Now all those reddit/r or FB groupe no permit any advertasing for asset , but we can still promote game , devlog , work in progress .
So the fun fact on commons place on internet we can easely promote anything but if its an asset : no sorry sir xD .. i can't imagine indie dev looking for something cool but can't find anything because we're now not allowed anymore to showcase our asset and how that can be usefull/helpfull for their project ..Oo

ebon leaf Aug 13, 2018, 7:50 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/2a8f85871f52fc718b1474636407e14a.gif

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any1 got a compatible with mannequin model that makes this gif more bad ass and not LESS bad ass than the default mannequin

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i want something thats like a zombie monster but from ut99 instead of some kind of gay thing thats not ut99

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even better if its a crazy skeleton or grim reaper

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type monster

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that looks like ut99

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instead of cartoons

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some thing like its from the metal music's album's cover's

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is what i want for it

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📎 Megadeth-RustInPeace.png

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if any1 has this guy from this album cover as a guy i can buy for money u just got a sell

zealous ibex Aug 13, 2018, 8:04 PM

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Just a PSA for the marketplace creators: the latest featured content rotation email just came in (for me) with a deadline that's really soon (aug the 16th). It went into my promotions tab on GMail, so if you're a creator....please make sure you don't miss this round :)

(NOTE to Epic staff: If any of the information contained within this message is not allowed to be shared, then please let me know and I'll edit/change this message, my apologies in advance should this be the case)

ebon leaf Aug 13, 2018, 8:05 PM

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📎 fb33c2af7ff527ea1017193fff7c0457.png

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or some thing like this

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📎 5684e7d1032e840e281ea0b5-640x640.png

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want this as a guy in my game anyone selling it

wooden falcon Aug 13, 2018, 8:19 PM

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I think necturus has some skeleton characters

ebon leaf Aug 13, 2018, 8:19 PM

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is sullen secret the guy

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when i do @nec thats what it suggests

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@nect

wooden falcon Aug 13, 2018, 8:20 PM

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I don't know if he frequents this discord

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here's his profile: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/mr.Necturus

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hope that doesn't run afoul of any discord rules...I'm not promoting myself :/

ebon leaf Aug 13, 2018, 8:22 PM

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dam if having a marketplace channel where u cant link to ur marketplace when people ask for a specific thing is a rule then thats insane lol

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maybe need 2 seperate marketplace channels 1 where links are allowed (if its a response to ppl specifically asking for a thing) and this one where they arent

wooden falcon Aug 13, 2018, 8:23 PM

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I'm pretty sure it's ok...just not self promotion

ebon leaf Aug 13, 2018, 8:32 PM

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yea i want like a bazaar channel

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wehre i can do where i just did

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wehre potential customers go like hey

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hey i want a fuking skeleton

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and selleers can self promote but only in RESPONSE to requests

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that would be a handy channel to have

oak fiber Aug 13, 2018, 8:33 PM

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Pretty sure it's okay to post a link to your Marketplace item but don't post a link to your Marketplace item, to your Discord, tell people that you're the greatest company on the earth and direct them to your website.

Common sense ain't so common

ebon leaf Aug 13, 2018, 8:33 PM

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it would result in

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it would result in :

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sells

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and 2. people getting the stuff they want

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at the cost of : agghhh

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one extra channel to mute if u dont like it

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i propose

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if ur allowed to do that here then im just gonna start doing that here

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@wooden falcon that guy has some ok skeletons but i bet theres more skeletons

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i need more to compare before i make-my-decision about which skeletons im sending money to

wooden falcon Aug 13, 2018, 8:41 PM

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yah, I think there are more skeletons, but I'm not sure about rigged characters

ebon leaf Aug 13, 2018, 9:30 PM

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ha skeletons has 2 meanings in this chat

wind latch Aug 14, 2018, 5:51 AM

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Hi, I downloaded and built the editor from source (following a guide for making dedicated servers) on windows. But how can I use marketplace stuff with my source built engine? the epic launcher does not recognize it as an available engine

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Same for plugins like ARTv1

leaden root Aug 14, 2018, 6:06 AM

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You gotta download the launcher equivalent version of your engine, and then download the plugins to that engine

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Then just copy them over

wind latch Aug 14, 2018, 6:10 AM

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oik, I did that but was hoping for a more user friendly solution, never mind 😃

zealous ibex Aug 14, 2018, 9:09 AM

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Though this is 100% at your own risk, you can try Allar's tool too: https://github.com/Allar/ue4-mp-downloader

GitHub

Allar/ue4-mp-downloader

ue4-mp-downloader - Shell utility to download owned assets from the UE4 marketplace.

wooden falcon Aug 14, 2018, 1:00 PM

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I wonder if Allar's tool secretly mines Dallars?

zealous ibex Aug 14, 2018, 1:08 PM

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😂

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Also - would anyone who lives in Europe (/the Netherlands) and receives their payments as a bank transfer be able to give me a rough idea of the fees that come along with it?

wooden falcon Aug 14, 2018, 1:14 PM

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https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/wild-west-ghost-town-of-fogmourn#&gid=1&pid=1

Wild West Ghost Town of Fogmourn by YuryVorobiev in Environments -...

Wild west city pack, Includes props, vegetation, different materials. Based on concept by Igor Kirdeika

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https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/fogmourn-ghost-city#&gid=1&pid=1

Ghost City by FabioGuedes in Environments - UE4 Marketplace

Ghost wild west city

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that's two separate packs, by two different people

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:/

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apparently based off the same concept (they apparently did them as Artstation competition entries)

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both look really nice, but that's a bit...odd

delicate dove Aug 14, 2018, 1:15 PM

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@zealous ibex my bank ABN just takes 7 euro afaik, not sure for bigger loots though

zealous ibex Aug 14, 2018, 1:15 PM

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Hm, that's not as bad as I thought then 🤔 Thanks 👍

wooden falcon Aug 14, 2018, 1:16 PM

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I wonder what the policy is on reproducing a concept art piece and then selling it? :/

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seems a little morally wrong

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taking inspiration, fine, but taking a piece and trying to get it as accurate as possible, then putting it on the MP?

lunar fractal Aug 14, 2018, 1:17 PM

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@zealous ibex I let them transfer to my paypal and then transfer it myself

wooden falcon Aug 14, 2018, 1:17 PM

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granted, I haven't looked at the concept piece in this case to see if that is, in fact, the case

zealous ibex Aug 14, 2018, 1:18 PM

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That's what I'm currently doing too - but I'm considering changing that up 🤔

wooden falcon Aug 14, 2018, 1:18 PM

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https://www.artstation.com/artwork/WObqy, yah, that's the case

delicate dove Aug 14, 2018, 1:19 PM

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oh, 9 euro

lunar fractal Aug 14, 2018, 1:19 PM

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Recently created a Knab bank account, will see if I can transfer it there

delicate dove Aug 14, 2018, 1:20 PM

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oh shit, its more than expected hehe (the amount recieved)

lunar fractal Aug 14, 2018, 1:21 PM

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💰

zealous ibex Aug 14, 2018, 1:27 PM

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Nice

wooden falcon Aug 14, 2018, 1:43 PM

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I had gone back and calculated what I was getting, so no surprise here 😃

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thought it was gonna be on the 15th, though, so sort of a surprise

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you know, this week would have probably been good to put some stuff on sale, given that some people have extra cash :/

robust vector Aug 14, 2018, 1:50 PM

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I cannot link and I must proclaim I have a sale running currently

wooden falcon Aug 14, 2018, 1:50 PM

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let us know if it does better than expected

robust vector Aug 14, 2018, 1:52 PM

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With how little units I moved in last week's sale, the math to do a comparison will be easy

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#deadinside #lolatmyproblems

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I like to think my assets come with a certain degree of exclusivity

wooden falcon Aug 14, 2018, 2:18 PM

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mine as well 😃

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only 2 people own my latest pack

gleaming lance Aug 14, 2018, 3:58 PM

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last monday,i start a new way to promote my assets pack on the market , .. a one week campaign : let's what happens untils 1 september ,if i get more sale or not ..Oo

north stirrup Aug 14, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Make ads on YT targeting the "UE4" search 😁

zealous ibex Aug 14, 2018, 6:40 PM

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I'd say the lack of analytics on the marketplace'd make that a pretty huge pain to analyse / check if it's a viable option

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Wait...marketplace payout reports are purged // only go back like a year? 😮 I should 100% have downloaded them 🤦

wooden falcon Aug 14, 2018, 6:49 PM

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The Purge: Marketplace

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😃

sullen lion Aug 14, 2018, 6:53 PM

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Are you sure that's not just the maximum range you can view?

zealous ibex Aug 14, 2018, 7:20 PM

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That's the case for sale reports, the payout report is per month and only goes back to Jun 2017, while I started selling about Dec 2016 in my case (no ability to scroll/whatever as far as I can tell)

lilac heath Aug 15, 2018, 12:00 AM

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Quick question to the MP sellers -did epic take a 12% from the retroactive payout, looking at my calculations and the amount received makes me wonder. If they took 12% or if I realy suck at counting ( most probably the latter)

north stirrup Aug 15, 2018, 12:03 AM

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You need to multiply what you got by 18/70 I think

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Should tell you what they will give you

lilac heath Aug 15, 2018, 12:11 AM

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I have lnown the 18 percent from a while but now I have received it it appears to be 12 % is less than calculated .will check again when it's not early in the AM.

idle arch Aug 15, 2018, 12:39 AM

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Your payout should have been 18% of retroactive, I did not hear anything about us taking 12% of the 100% of the 18% (if that makes sense).

last mango Aug 15, 2018, 12:42 AM

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Im just happy i got money back lol

zinc kestrel Aug 15, 2018, 1:00 AM

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i got like almost twice what i expected

last mango Aug 15, 2018, 1:03 AM

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Yeah i got way more than i thought.

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But i never really kept track of sales so it didnt really matter.

north stirrup Aug 15, 2018, 1:04 AM

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lol

fleet garnet Aug 15, 2018, 1:21 AM

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ok so I'm not crazy, I received way more than I calculated earlier 🤔
Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly OK with that 👌

robust vector Aug 15, 2018, 5:09 AM

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The seller portal seems to have an arbitrary limit on how long ago we can look at reports. Thus, we cannot verify the accuracy of the payout unless we were keeping our own local copies.

lilac heath Aug 15, 2018, 6:19 AM

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@idle arch thanks for the confirmation, it's probably just my math. And I have to say it was more curiosity, I'm still impressed and very happy with the refund regardless, it will make a big difference to alot of the marketplace sellers.

wooden falcon Aug 15, 2018, 1:10 PM

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the online sales report goes back all the way to the beginning, but only allows you to query 18 months at a time...when it was announced about the retroactive payment, I tallied what I was gonna get, and was pretty close 😃

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I WISH I calculated wrong and had a pleasant surprise 😃

robust vector Aug 15, 2018, 1:30 PM

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Ahh, ok. So I just need to break it into ranges and then copy pasta

zealous ibex Aug 15, 2018, 3:39 PM

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Thinks this could easily be automated with a python script, but then realizes he is way too lazy to actually create it 😂

wooden falcon Aug 15, 2018, 3:41 PM

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lol

zealous ibex Aug 15, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Is it just me - or did the EULA change recently prompting a need for you to re-accept it when downloading a marketplace asset?

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We also can't participate in class action lawsuits against Epic 😭 😂 #TheInterestingStuffInEULAs (If my scan/read of the EULA interpreted that section correctly, that is)

north stirrup Aug 15, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Rhooo

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I wanted to spend all my money on lawyers

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Too bad

robust vector Aug 15, 2018, 5:40 PM

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Wonder how binding that would be if they actually did something worthy of a class action case

wooden falcon Aug 15, 2018, 6:07 PM

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hmm, I seem to remember something from an business law class back in college that certain limitations on your legal options weren't binding, but I'd have to look into that

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probably also depends on the state

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just a cursory google shows that these have been contested successfully before, but it's very situational

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as the kids like to say, though, IANAL, YOLO?

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man, the I Am Not a Lawyer acronym looks sort of bad when read out loud

zealous ibex Aug 15, 2018, 6:14 PM

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(For anyone interested in reading the section in question - it's the Class Action Waiver // Section 19; And just for the record - I'm not trying to criticize Epic in any way, I just thought it was interesting/funny)

idle arch Aug 15, 2018, 8:18 PM

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Ya, that acronym is not good

fleet garnet Aug 15, 2018, 8:23 PM

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😐

ebon leaf Aug 16, 2018, 2:06 AM

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Has anyone actually sold their assets ?

leaden root Aug 16, 2018, 3:05 AM

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No

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There has never been a purchase on the marketplace

sullen lion Aug 16, 2018, 3:10 AM

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All of the reviews are from people who got the stuff for free

ivory trench Aug 16, 2018, 3:24 AM

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I've spent a couple grand... musta been in the simulation I guess

brave kettle Aug 16, 2018, 5:33 AM

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I bought the hex grid pluggin to learn from. I'm rather enjoying seeing how it works.

quaint cedar Aug 16, 2018, 9:08 AM

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@late radish Quick question, the UETOPIA Plugin, is that a Subsystem replacing plugin or can, e.g., Steam be used at the same time?

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 11:23 AM

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https://i.gyazo.com/46e4608acb219a76ff837e9b6292e062.png

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!!

north stirrup Aug 16, 2018, 11:29 AM

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!!!

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 11:29 AM

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still a bit beta/buggy as it eats your imputs when it tries to suggest a tag.
@idle arch

vapid tundra Aug 16, 2018, 11:29 AM

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!V

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 11:30 AM

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V

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cant wait until people add all the tags possible

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"low poly rocks"
tags: trees, effects, sound, music, water, sky, epic, aaa, etc

zealous ibex Aug 16, 2018, 11:37 AM

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#hype

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You can't use ue4 in tags 🤔 They're actually implementing this stuff thinking things through 👍

vapid tundra Aug 16, 2018, 11:50 AM

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it will be just like on steam

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tag abuse ftw

north stirrup Aug 16, 2018, 11:58 AM

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Tags: "Awesome"

lunar fractal Aug 16, 2018, 11:58 AM

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Dibs on "TheBest"

vapid tundra Aug 16, 2018, 12:07 PM

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"AAA"

north stirrup Aug 16, 2018, 12:18 PM

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Why in #fab though @junior smelt

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lol

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Now I look dumb

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NEVER

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 12:58 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwwgV_VHPlA

YouTube

Yoeri -Luos- Vleer

[UE4] Marketplace package price overhaul

Changing the prices of my marketplace packages! check them out here: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Luos

▶ Play video

north stirrup Aug 16, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Nice scratching effect!

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 1:02 PM

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XD

lunar fractal Aug 16, 2018, 1:02 PM

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Kudos for taking care of yourself 👍

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 1:02 PM

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thanks 😃

wooden falcon Aug 16, 2018, 1:03 PM

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well, least I know what tags to use on my rock pack now 😃

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 1:03 PM

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lol

north stirrup Aug 16, 2018, 1:04 PM

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lol

leaden root Aug 16, 2018, 1:13 PM

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Holy thats Luos?

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What a beefcake

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 1:13 PM

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rofl

wooden falcon Aug 16, 2018, 1:15 PM

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more like 100% bull 😃

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j/k

idle arch Aug 16, 2018, 1:16 PM

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There is now a post up about something new in the creators hub 😃

wooden falcon Aug 16, 2018, 1:17 PM

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so do the tags actually do something right now? 😃

idle arch Aug 16, 2018, 1:17 PM

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The short answer is yes

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But the functionality is not made public atm

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We wanted to give sellers time to populate tags

wooden falcon Aug 16, 2018, 1:18 PM

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cool

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here's mine: Luos, Allar

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 1:19 PM

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FPS

high siren Aug 16, 2018, 1:19 PM

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I added "FPS" like an hour ago XD

idle arch Aug 16, 2018, 1:19 PM

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Luos

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There is a limit on the # of tags

wooden falcon Aug 16, 2018, 1:20 PM

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lol, me trying to figure out tags for my rock pack: rocks...uhhh...

lunar fractal Aug 16, 2018, 1:20 PM

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nature 😉

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low poly? realistic?

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 1:21 PM

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there is? how many?

idle arch Aug 16, 2018, 1:21 PM

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I want to say 15 atm

wooden falcon Aug 16, 2018, 1:21 PM

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thanks GracesGames! 😃

idle arch Aug 16, 2018, 1:21 PM

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But we're always adjusting it

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 1:22 PM

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15 is a bit much, could span quite some catagories with that hehe

idle arch Aug 16, 2018, 1:22 PM

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If it starts to get to that much we'll adjust

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 1:22 PM

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but yea, over time that might change

gaunt flicker Aug 16, 2018, 1:27 PM

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im going to tag all my assets

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"ass"

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 1:28 PM

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@idle arch any chance to add a filter to the reports to see it per pack?

idle arch Aug 16, 2018, 1:29 PM

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I don't know atm

gaunt flicker Aug 16, 2018, 1:48 PM

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Who wants to find out if the 20 character tag limit is purely browser client side

delicate dove Aug 16, 2018, 1:49 PM

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hehe

gaunt flicker Aug 16, 2018, 2:08 PM

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So, yes, it validates it client side, but, it also correctly validates it on the backend too

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So

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You can't do dumb things

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Well, not things longer than 20 characters at least

zealous ibex Aug 16, 2018, 3:13 PM

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@idle arch An email about that came in too.....it just ended up in promotions. May I suggest the marketplace team consider looking in to a public/promotional email address, and keeps marketplace-support seperate for support-related matters. Maybe the damage has already been done, or this isn't the cause....but having promotional emails being sent out using the same email as the primary support email just doesn't quite sound right to me 🤔

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(I personally tend to spot the emails - but in cases like featured content rotation it may cause some people to miss the email as a whole, which'd suck for the people concerned)

fleet garnet Aug 16, 2018, 3:20 PM

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^^this
Already missed a sale invite once because it was in promotions

idle arch Aug 16, 2018, 3:29 PM

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Thank you for that suggestion @zealous ibex

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Very reasonable.

zealous ibex Aug 16, 2018, 3:29 PM

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No problemo - I fully understand if this is just how it is, but the thought came up in me so I thought there was no harm in suggesting it. Glad to see new features being implemented 😃

idle arch Aug 16, 2018, 3:30 PM

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We're all very excited to start rolling stuff out.

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It took time, and we really appreciate the patience everyone has shown.

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I also completely understand the frustrations people had. But we're here now! And there is more to come.

gleaming lance Aug 16, 2018, 6:52 PM

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i notice a bug on the marketplace page , i check this for my asset ( music asset ) and asset of my friend ( plugin ) : when we want to use the research tool on main content browser , we can easely find the good name for assets ( keys words work fine ) , but if we valid the research , nothing .. steel stuck on the main page content browser .. and even we're on specific filter / categoty page , after entry the goods name on the research tools , we' re back again on the main content browser page ..:(
@idle arch i've a vid. on those points , werer's the best post to repport the bug ..? on foum with details + link vid. or per mail ..?

hasty nexus Aug 16, 2018, 7:04 PM

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i think that's because of new tags

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it returns the products that contains those keywords as tags as well

robust vector Aug 16, 2018, 10:12 PM

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https://imgur.com/rMOViW6
"After careful consideration and review by our legal team, the decision was
made that you will need to remove/modify the texture for the face and
eyes so that the patterns no longer resemble that of the punisher logo."

Imgur

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Right....

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Good ol one step forward one step back Epic

tiny heron Aug 16, 2018, 10:16 PM

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Does kinda look like punisher on the left there

modern perch Aug 16, 2018, 10:16 PM

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not really

robust vector Aug 16, 2018, 10:17 PM

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last time I checked the punisher logo was a full skull with elongated teeth

modern perch Aug 16, 2018, 10:17 PM

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https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1729/8573/products/The-Punisher-02.png?v=1519394547

robust vector Aug 16, 2018, 10:18 PM

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I like how remove the texture entirely was listed as an option, implying they would prefer an untextured model

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Surprised I didn't get "Your shotgun shells look like shotgun shells from Call of Duty 4"

gleaming lance Aug 16, 2018, 10:26 PM

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may be Epic afraid by lega lissue with Marvel's , since 1 year now all on net there's one more news every month about Marvel's seeking action against company/website using Punisher logo 😦

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an with the new marvel's plateform VOD ...oO

robust vector Aug 16, 2018, 10:27 PM

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Well, I'm not going to touch it unless they can be a lot more specific with what changes they want. Guess I'll put out a Unity version in the meantime

idle arch Aug 16, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Make sure you respond to the email and ask them to be more specific.

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I am assuming that remove the texture completely is to say, use something entirely different as opposed to modifying the one you have there to make it look less like the one currently used.

leaden root Aug 16, 2018, 10:43 PM

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I can see why they would be cautious, getting sued by disney would suck ass

craggy zinc Aug 16, 2018, 10:51 PM

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Also the rifle almost looks like something that is real, cant have that either =>

robust vector Aug 16, 2018, 10:52 PM

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I'm selling a character, not a rifle

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But yeah, you can't get that rifle on the marketplace anymore

craggy zinc Aug 16, 2018, 10:52 PM

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yea i know.. Some are still there tho

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Browsed thru a few days ago

feral pivot Aug 16, 2018, 11:00 PM

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@robust vector I don't think it's so similar but who am I anyway? Still, something that caught my eye and you might want to evaluate (since you'll be at it anyway) is the logo on the arm, which is a bit similar to the Arkham Knight's insignia. It's a very cool model nonetheless!

ebon leaf Aug 17, 2018, 2:46 AM

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anyone know the best mannequin animset for some1 thats blatantly making a "dark souls" clone and it has all the stuff that "dark souls" would have

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for the player-character of "dark souls the game"

sullen lion Aug 17, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Iunno about best, but I can definitely tell you some that are definitely in the right direction

brave kettle Aug 17, 2018, 4:45 AM

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At what point will everything be copyrighted? I mean can't someone just use one of the machine learning algorithms to basically derive every possible combination of gun / texture / body type / armor set and copyright everything? There's only so many possible combinations to establish brands of?

ebon leaf Aug 17, 2018, 5:09 AM

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@sullen lion wheres them

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yea the copyright-laws were written for before ultra-robots not after them

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copyright law are to make walt disney the ugy rich

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no walt disney the guy so if they make a crazy robot and try to stop it by saying copyright law the robot will go and kill all the copyright guys

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u try to enforce copyright laws vs the robot and the robot says fuck u and does whatever it wants anywa

elfin plinth Aug 17, 2018, 6:02 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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for the head tho, I got more darksiders 2 vibes from that

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📎 darksiders-2-death.png

novel badger Aug 17, 2018, 11:14 AM

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Is there any decent footstep packs ?

robust vector Aug 17, 2018, 11:19 AM

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Yes

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I'll look up the one I'm using....

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Take a look at this pack https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/footsteps-sounds-pack

Footsteps Sounds Pack by Cafofo Music in Sound FX - UE4 Marketplace

Cafofo's Footstep Sounds Pack comes with 650 high-quality sound effects, divided into more than 13 surfaces, along with monsters, robotic and classic retro sounds! Most of them come with walking and running variations.

novel badger Aug 17, 2018, 3:02 PM

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@robust vector Does it have metal, grass, concrete, wood etc?

slow kelp Aug 17, 2018, 7:30 PM

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@novel badger it shows every file in the description which briefly describes each

split iron Aug 18, 2018, 3:11 AM

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There's a plugin on the MP that doesn't do what it says it does. I've tried ELI5'ing it to the author repeatedly who by his own admission doesn't know UE4 well, seems adamant on not understanding. I've asked him to fix his MP description because it misleads buyers but doesn't seem keen on that. Is there some way to report it to epic for investigation?

wind matrix Aug 18, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Hey, guys!! I was wondering if I could get a recommendation for a UI HUD pack. I bought this Pro Hud Pack, and it works great, and I was hoping to expand on that with things like buttons, dialogue screens, etc. Does anyone know of a good pack? For reference, here is the Pro Hud Pack I am using

📎 03Examples-1920x1080-a3b8777a9394afa1fb58d86ae03c5b7b.png

zealous ibex Aug 18, 2018, 7:18 AM

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@split iron I guess one could try contacting marketplace-support@unrealengine.com, but are you sure you've explained it well to the seller? The way you phrased it may not be 100% clear // leave something up to interpretation, thus causing the confusion

split iron Aug 18, 2018, 7:19 AM

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I'm very sure, thanks I'll try it

zealous ibex Aug 18, 2018, 7:21 AM

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(Or at least - I'm pretty sure buyers should use that email too - I've seen plenty of people say to buyers they should do that, so my apologies if it was somehow the wrong email)

split iron Aug 18, 2018, 8:04 AM

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I'm sure they'll forward it if it's wrong

blazing harbor Aug 18, 2018, 8:18 AM

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so is the marketplace search just completely destroyed now since the tags stuff? the auto text comes up with the asset i expect but then when you hit enter you just end up with 80+ pages of unrelated stuff. couldnt find and buy an asset right now even if I knew the exact name of it, it seems.

zealous ibex Aug 18, 2018, 10:02 AM

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Hm, I think something is going on there, I can barely find my products on there 🤔

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Maybe they just need to work on sorting, because I'd say, my asset, with the name Inventory System should be on top when I search for Inventory System, or at least on the first page.....for sure not under something like Attack Animal: Boar 🤔

lunar fractal Aug 18, 2018, 10:17 AM

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Yeah, name matches should rank higher than tag matches

lunar fractal Aug 18, 2018, 11:53 AM

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@ebon leaf I think this would now be better suited in #released

delicate dove Aug 18, 2018, 2:25 PM

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https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/megascans-desert-pack this still cracks me up XD

Megascans Desert Pack by Quixel in Environments - UE4 Marketplace

A high-quality collection of surfaces and assets including sand, soil, gravel, stones, boulders, rock formations, stumps, and branches created from real-world scan data to recreate a harsh and unforgiving desert landscape.

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"Access to this collection has been temporarily paused. We are working with Epic Games to resolve concerns related to the EULA. Thank you for your patience."
"2018-05-09 5:32 pm"

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guess that didnt work out

lilac heath Aug 18, 2018, 2:31 PM

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The new market place search just seemes t o bring back every thing . But just in different orders :(

robust vector Aug 18, 2018, 6:46 PM

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all letters of the alphabet count as individual tags lol

zealous ibex Aug 18, 2018, 7:16 PM

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It's probably searching for the words seperately, and then just throwing them out in a "random" order (not looking at the whole thing....I think)

rare lynx Aug 19, 2018, 6:01 PM

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Yeah search is broken, hopefully it gets fixed this week. That is one of the few ways to find content with the limited discovery tools atm.

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:06 PM

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@idle arch Any chance sellers could get a "Force Refund" button? I think I've got another "I bought a product from you, therefore I'm entitled to having you make my project for me," brewing and I think I would rather refund this guy and lock him out of rating than have him hold my product rating as ransom to get me to do free work for him.

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Probably not a great idea in actuality, but it really sucks that this has become such a widespread problem on the marketplace.

zealous ibex Aug 19, 2018, 7:09 PM

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I'd say having an overhauled rating system (which is on the books if I recall correctly) would solve this (kind of) problem the best - and potentially a way for sellers to dispute ratings like that, but that'd also make sure creators know where they can improve their assets/etc.

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Nothing sucks more than getting a bad rating while A. not hearing anything at all, or B. having something like what you described. A force-refund would probably not be the best idea - especially considering when people can integrate a product into their project/etc.

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:10 PM

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Idk

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I wish Epic would stand by marketplace creators more instead of "Customers are entitle to rate purchased products however they like."

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In cases where its clearly being used to try to leverage free work and you can hand over emails to prove it, they should remove such ratings

zealous ibex Aug 19, 2018, 7:11 PM

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I don't hate a bad rating by definition, sure, it is never fun to get a bad rating, but if I could at the very least know why they don't like my product that'd be a great way to improve the product

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:12 PM

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Downvote all you want as long as its a legitimate opinion on the product

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"Game dev is hard work, therefore give me my money back"

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lol

high siren Aug 19, 2018, 7:23 PM

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I think splitting the comment section into 3 parts would solve a lot of these issues..
1 tab for reviews (tied to the ratings)
1 tab for random questions (that are clearly answered on the store page but still)
1 for random chat (i.e. support tab or something)

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:24 PM

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I would rather just direct people into my discord for support than have to keep checking the product pages, but it would be nice to split reviews from questions. (Would also be nice to have negative ratings require reviews.)

high siren Aug 19, 2018, 7:26 PM

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discord, e-mail, forum link, all there.. and yet the comment section is being treated as a support hotline or something XD not that it's a huge problem, but it makes it more difficult for people to find a review for an asset

zealous ibex Aug 19, 2018, 7:27 PM

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^ I personally prefer email, but I guess an overhauled rating system with A. notifications, B. potentially more privacy (in cases where the user may share stuff that they don't want exposed to the public), and C. way more options for composing replies including the ability to add images, and way longer messages could work too 🤔

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:27 PM

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"I am unwilling to setup IK in my animation blueprint. I am also unhappy the feet do not align to the floor."

high siren Aug 19, 2018, 7:28 PM

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so splitting them would be a nice change in my opinion, as for the ratings in general, make it so that it shows how many gave what rating (somewhat similar to how amazon shows their ratings)

zealous ibex Aug 19, 2018, 7:28 PM

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But a big (fat) Get Support button would probably be nice too

high siren Aug 19, 2018, 7:30 PM

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yeah

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:30 PM

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"How dare you not take responsibility for how these animations made by a third party play on your model"

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He's gonna get far in this industry rofl

idle arch Aug 19, 2018, 7:33 PM

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ECommerce is always a challenge

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Striking the right balance between the buyers and the sellers is, in my mind, akin to balancing a fighting game

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:35 PM

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I don't think it should be that difficult to figure out how a customer holding a product rating hostage to try to get you to work on their project should be handled, but that's just my opinion.

fleet garnet Aug 19, 2018, 7:35 PM

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a comment should be required with a rating, on all my products I usually get 4 or 5 stars and someone just randomly decides to give me 1 star to bring the whole rating down, a comment as a requirement for ratings would be a good idea

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:36 PM

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The star system is kinda stupid tbh

idle arch Aug 19, 2018, 7:36 PM

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I am not implying your situation is that.

high siren Aug 19, 2018, 7:36 PM

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@fleet garnet I agree

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:36 PM

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People unhappy just one-star because they 'feel' the average deserves to be lower

idle arch Aug 19, 2018, 7:36 PM

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I can understand where ya'll are coming from.

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:37 PM

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Would be better to just be positive neutral and negative

idle arch Aug 19, 2018, 7:37 PM

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The last game I worked on, RiME, was one that people needed to finish to understand the story.

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People would get an hour or two into the game and call it shallow and without meaning.

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When I would ask them if they beat it, it would always be the same answer, that no, they did not beat it (there was also an achievement for it).

high siren Aug 19, 2018, 7:40 PM

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yeah but at least you got an aswer from them, even if it's "no, I did not finish it", but here it's like a "just because" situation without any explanation, reason or review given.. it's hard to fix the issue when it's impossible to tell what the issue is..

idle arch Aug 19, 2018, 7:40 PM

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That is fair.

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I'll make the recommendation to the MP team that a comment is required for a rating.

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Or, they send you 50 emails, 4 phone calls, 2 voicemails, 8 texts, and then accuse you of harassment

high siren Aug 19, 2018, 7:41 PM

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thank you

idle arch Aug 19, 2018, 7:41 PM

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Of course.

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:41 PM

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Only happened to me once so far though

sullen lion Aug 19, 2018, 7:41 PM

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jeez

idle arch Aug 19, 2018, 7:41 PM

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If that is happening Blackfang, that is a bigger issue.

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We obviously want sellers to feel like they can conduct their business without being harassed.

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:42 PM

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Marketplace support does not share that concern

idle arch Aug 19, 2018, 7:42 PM

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Sorry you feel that way.

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:42 PM

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https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/cyber-ninja-wolf-deadly-robotic-assassin

Cyber Ninja Wolf: Deadly Robotic Assassin by Black Fang Technologi...

Cyber Ninja Wolf is a high quality, PBR, character model. The stunning leader of a pack of mechanized killers, he hunts without fail.

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please don't ban me for posting a link pretty please

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I asked marketplace support to remove the rating and comment after showing them the email portion of the exchange, but they would not so instead I just had to make the exchange public

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Ooh

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This is a spicy one

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""Standard practice"? I'm not a noob. Stop pretending you know more about UE4 that I do. OTHER ASSETS WORK FINE -- THIS IS ON YOU. Don't give me that IK bullshit. Flat ground NEVER requires IK. Your product sucks and you won't support your screw-ups. Noted. We're done here."

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I want "Flat ground never requires IK" to be a meme

north stirrup Aug 19, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Isn't that true?

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:53 PM

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lol no

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Not when you're playing a kneeling animation

sullen lion Aug 19, 2018, 7:54 PM

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even if it were true, by the sound of this dude he'd put the model too low in the character BP and have the feet clip.

vapid tundra Aug 19, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Oh boy. Such "customer" experiences really making me feel confident about releasing stuff on the marketplace 😄 I took a look at the convo with that one guy...

sullen lion Aug 19, 2018, 7:55 PM

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wonder if this was the same guy trying to get a refund because a landscape was a deformed plane just floating in space

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 7:56 PM

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The proportions of hip to knee and hip to ankle will affect how high the foot ends up when its behind the character in a kneeling position. Kinda an ideal example of what IK is used for. I would have helped him set up IK in his ABP but he's decidedly anti-IK for reasons beyond my comprehension.

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"This character is just a series of triangles being drawn between vertices in space and having a series of textures projected onto the surface based on a set of unwrapped coordinates and I'm upset about it."

sullen lion Aug 19, 2018, 7:58 PM

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WHERE IS ALL THE ORGANS

north stirrup Aug 19, 2018, 7:59 PM

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This model isn't unlimited details

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Plz refund

sullen lion Aug 19, 2018, 8:00 PM

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thankfully I haven't yet had that.

north stirrup Aug 19, 2018, 8:00 PM

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btw I gave up

sullen lion Aug 19, 2018, 8:00 PM

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I fully expect the next thing I put on the MP to suffer those kind of things.

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You gave up on your thing?

vapid tundra Aug 19, 2018, 8:01 PM

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I dont know what a texture is = refund please, good sir.

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 8:02 PM

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That guy also wanted me to make a custom version of the material for him.

north stirrup Aug 19, 2018, 8:02 PM

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DO IT

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I mean he paid you around 10€ right

sullen lion Aug 19, 2018, 8:03 PM

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So did the emails continue after you publicized some of it?

north stirrup Aug 19, 2018, 8:03 PM

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Worth at least 10h of work

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 8:03 PM

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Never heard from that guy who bought the ninja model after that

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Never had any other sales on that model wither though

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This one I might send him a custom material made out of Nicholas Cage faces if he still contacts me

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Oh, look at this spicy boy

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https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/cyber-mutant-xell-genetically-modified-hunter-stalker

Cyber Mutant Xell: Genetically Modified Hunter Stalker by Black Fa...

Cyber Mutant Xell is a pbr character made by retopologization and projection of a high-poly sculpture. Xell is a lean cybernetic hunter, an apex predator of any ecosystem.

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This is the image he sent me. https://imgur.com/tvGf1X3

Imgur

sullen lion Aug 19, 2018, 8:07 PM

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oh, I thought it was the opposite - in the ground

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 8:08 PM

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Definitely deserved a 1-star rating because he was unwilling to use IK with his animations

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Left foot is in the ground a bit, IK would fix that

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Alright.. now how did I manage to get my email thread into a google doc when I did it before....?

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 8:34 PM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pko-UVLMzZVT2R0RmvA5bSSjmGs3I_HpchTP9hGEhMI/edit

Google Docs

DavidKaplan_Xell

Black Fang Asset inquiry 14 messages David Kaplan Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 1:00 PM To: xbl.black.fang@gmail.com Hi! I am interested in the Xel model. I wanted to check and make sure I can replace your skeleton with the Epic sk...

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I'm not the one in the wrong here, am I?

delicate dove Aug 19, 2018, 8:40 PM

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he cannot request material changes thats for sure

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as for the IK, depending on the time it costs I miiiight make a video tutorial on how to potential solve it if many people ask about it but if this is the only one and takes a lot of time, imho its on them

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(if I knew about IK that is XD)

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 8:42 PM

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I include an ABP. I would include IK in the ABP if Epic didn't forget IK animation on their third person template anims

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They also refuse to fix that when I bring it up to them

delicate dove Aug 19, 2018, 8:42 PM

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or well, he cannot demand material changes, he can ask but should understand its not really part of the deal

robust vector Aug 19, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Then it leads to bad practices with people not understanding how to properly use IK

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All in all, I choose to blame Epic

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😛

mighty yacht Aug 19, 2018, 9:56 PM

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@robust vector A bit unclear here, was it You, or your customer exposing private comms like that ?

zealous ibex Aug 19, 2018, 10:11 PM

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^ especially with GDPR you should be careful, and nothing personal but sharing stuff like this isn't the most professional thing you can do ^^

vapid tundra Aug 19, 2018, 10:16 PM

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The GDPR only shackles EU citizens tho.

lilac heath Aug 19, 2018, 10:19 PM

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not quite, it is the not just the information from the EU but to the EU as well, so if you display information that is from say an American client on this forum and as this forum is accessible from Europe the data would be in breach.
GDPR is not a shackle, it ensures that companies treat the users data with the respect and understanding that is required to minimise the misuse of data, ( all be it nothing will ever be perfect)
Due to the complexitys of GDPR i maybe mistaken in my understanding of the legislation as i am not a lawyer.

north stirrup Aug 19, 2018, 10:32 PM

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You might be a lawyer though, even if you're not a layer

tame wasp Aug 19, 2018, 10:41 PM

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I have a suggestion for a marketplace item. It would be cool to have a Pokemon style battle system. So a player triggers a battle scenario and take turns attacking each other (maybe also even capturing the opponent or gaining some type of reward). I think this would sell on the marketplace, there's lot of game types that could use this sort of thing.

lilac heath Aug 19, 2018, 10:44 PM

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@north stirrup i did not spell check 😦 my bad

north stirrup Aug 19, 2018, 10:44 PM

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😅

blazing harbor Aug 19, 2018, 11:26 PM

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@lilac heath GDPR would be more the other way around. GDPR exists to protect EU citizens personal data and regulates the collection, use and sharing of that data. If an american's pii was shared and accessible to someone in the EU, it wouldn't really apply. But if an EU citizen's pii was shared on an american chat server, it would apply there. In some cases depending on the info it can even go as far as using an american based system and storing personal info, like a CRM (salesforce, service now) could be in violation if its stored in non EU servers in the SaaS's back-end etc.

@robust vector He's wrong to ask about getting a custom material. It wasnt stated in the desc that you do custom materials, nor that it came with that specific one. That said, sometimes its worth the few mins to make the customer happy. They generally accept a "no" on the next request if you've helped them once and the request doesnt make the asset globally better. But I dont think this person would have just gone away happy even if you did though so.

I don't know how your chars work in the engine. I havent tried any myself. But if as an example if he creates a base TPS template and then adds kubol anims to it. Then deleted the UE4 default skeleton (instead of yours). And then applied the kubold skeleton and all the anims to the UE4 TPS default and it works. Then I'd say you're in the wrong on that one. If the same process done on the UE4 default gives a different result then when done on your character. You can't claim it works exactly the same with no changes needed.

I didn't verify that example is the case, but it sounds like it is from the chat.

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@idle arch When you have time can you get the MP search looked at. Its a pretty big deal for sales. I'd imagine everyone other than the lucky few and the new content on the first page will have zero to little sales since Thursday night. Doesn't matter what you search for, you cant find anything. Unless its just me.. but if not, thats a pretty big thing to put live without testing first

idle arch Aug 19, 2018, 11:40 PM

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We're always working towards improving the search functionality of the MP.

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The new tag system is in place, and is currently being populated by our MP sellers. We should be releasing the search functionality soon

blazing harbor Aug 19, 2018, 11:42 PM

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so regular searching we had before tags is just disabled? im not understanding. If i type the exact name of a product in mp search. i get 80 pages of results that arent related

fringe ridge Aug 19, 2018, 11:42 PM

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It seams the search isn't working at all at the moment, If I search for my packs exact name it isn't anywhere to be seen

blazing harbor Aug 19, 2018, 11:42 PM

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exactly

fringe ridge Aug 19, 2018, 11:44 PM

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@idle arch For example https://gyazo.com/2217b7f64c6cec8ba94e24e08a26ed9c

Gyazo

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thats a search for realistic trees

elfin plinth Aug 20, 2018, 1:16 AM

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they had to write to that gun model it's textured as it doesn't look like it has anything but a normal map? 😄

modern perch Aug 20, 2018, 1:19 AM

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a normal map is a texture xD

idle arch Aug 20, 2018, 2:33 AM

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So I've been looking into this more

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The teams are investigating the search functionality

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I misread your initial statement to me.

blazing harbor Aug 20, 2018, 3:52 AM

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@idle arch cool. thx

delicate dove Aug 20, 2018, 11:00 AM

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since search is useless atm, are there actually any rpg-esque top down tilesets?

lilac heath Aug 20, 2018, 11:57 AM

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@fringe ridge if you search for "realistic trees" it will return both the tags on the same asset.
Where if you do realistic trees with out the "" it will return for each individually

fringe ridge Aug 20, 2018, 11:59 AM

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@lilac heath It seams to be working now

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last night it wasn't

lilac heath Aug 20, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Your right it is working very differently today with out the "" works well.
Let's hope people can now find our assets :)

idle arch Aug 20, 2018, 1:16 PM

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Hey all

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Can you guys try out search and let me know if it is functioning as expected

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We think we found/fixed the bug, but want to verify

robust vector Aug 20, 2018, 1:17 PM

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Seems to be ignoring tags completely and only going by product name now

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Was that intended?

pliant forum Aug 20, 2018, 1:18 PM

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All my tags I use matches, the name by itself also matches the results @idle arch +1 from me I guess

robust vector Aug 20, 2018, 1:19 PM

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wait

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Are you only allowed to search one tag at a time?

pliant forum Aug 20, 2018, 1:20 PM

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Yeah I think so

idle arch Aug 20, 2018, 1:20 PM

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Tag search is not enabled yet

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Or, at least, it should not be 😃

pliant forum Aug 20, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Well, searching for my tags gives me hits on my product

robust vector Aug 20, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Seems like it is, but with the restriction of one tag

idle arch Aug 20, 2018, 1:21 PM

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hrm

robust vector Aug 20, 2018, 1:21 PM

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'alien' doesn't appear in Xell's title or description, but it shows up

idle arch Aug 20, 2018, 1:22 PM

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Hmm

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Can you toss me a link

robust vector Aug 20, 2018, 1:22 PM

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To what?

idle arch Aug 20, 2018, 1:22 PM

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Xell

robust vector Aug 20, 2018, 1:22 PM

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I'll cross my fingers and hope the mods don't ban me

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https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/cyber-mutant-xell-genetically-modified-hunter-stalker

Cyber Mutant Xell: Genetically Modified Hunter Stalker by Black Fa...

Cyber Mutant Xell is a pbr character made by retopologization and projection of a high-poly sculpture. Xell is a lean cybernetic hunter, an apex predator of any ecosystem.

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Oh wait...

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Maybe it is picking it up from my attempt to manually add tags in the description

idle arch Aug 20, 2018, 1:24 PM

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That is what I am thinking here.

robust vector Aug 20, 2018, 1:24 PM

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don't know why "alien scifi" would stop it from showing up though

gleaming lance Aug 20, 2018, 1:27 PM

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that's work fine for me , try to find my pack both méthod , 2 keys words or write the full name , its give the proper page with my asset ,

tame wasp Aug 20, 2018, 2:11 PM

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Anyone think this sort of 2D isometric illustrations would do well on the marketplace? Maybe it's to stylised?

📎 imabyss-concept-art-header-01.jpg

robust vector Aug 20, 2018, 8:37 PM

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The more generic something is, the better it will sell. (To a point) So, it depends on what you mean by 'well'

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Your art is good, but its also niche, so you have to factor that into your expectations

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The only guarantee I can give is that you won't make less sales if you upload to the marketplace than if you don't sell it at all. So, if you already have stuff nearly ready to sell, there's no reason not to try it.

delicate dove Aug 20, 2018, 10:37 PM

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hehe

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https://giphy.com/gifs/thor-lightning-the-dark-world-Ch1zCx8tu6DQY

Giphy

north stirrup Aug 20, 2018, 10:37 PM

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NOOOOOOOOOOO

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lol dolphin

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Poor @keen widget

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I bet he gets mentioned quite often

delicate dove Aug 20, 2018, 10:38 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/O3DHIA5.gif

Imgur

Thor drops the BANHAMMER!

▶ Play video

lilac heath Aug 20, 2018, 10:38 PM

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@zealous spire - please can you look this this

north stirrup Aug 20, 2018, 10:38 PM

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Too late

lilac heath Aug 20, 2018, 10:38 PM

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wow its gone fast lol

zealous spire Aug 20, 2018, 10:38 PM

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think360

delicate dove Aug 20, 2018, 10:39 PM

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i already banhammered him

north stirrup Aug 20, 2018, 10:39 PM

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Hi pfist 😃

zealous spire Aug 20, 2018, 10:39 PM

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Oh wow. Must've been quick.

delicate dove Aug 20, 2018, 10:39 PM

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yea, guy was offering all mp packs for a few bucks

lilac heath Aug 20, 2018, 10:39 PM

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ahh sorry boss did not see ou wer one of the all powerfull ones 😉

delicate dove Aug 20, 2018, 10:39 PM

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http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/thor-banhammer-gif-10.gif

merry field Aug 21, 2018, 10:51 AM

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I submitted a product to the Marketplace, and it got rejected because I'd forgotten to include the .uproject file (had missed that I needed one for an asset-only submission)

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But now I'm in this weird state where I've fixed the problems, but the submission is in the "rejected" state and I can't actually resubmit it

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I did email back the Marketplace support asking how to re-submit on Friday, but haven't heard back from them

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Seems I have to copy-and-paste out all the details into a new submission and then delete the old one, made even more awkward because the text fields on the rejected submission are all disabled and I need to use browser dev tools to re-enable them to allow me to select the text in there to copy

delicate dove Aug 21, 2018, 10:55 AM

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next time follow the submission guidelines a bit more accurate, as for the problems.. you might want to ask @idle arch once he gets to the office 😃

merry field Aug 21, 2018, 10:57 AM

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Yeah, should have read more carefully. The information is kind of scattered around the Marketplace FAQ, I wish there was a step-by-step guide

delicate dove Aug 21, 2018, 11:06 AM

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true, though do double read 2.7

merry field Aug 21, 2018, 11:18 AM

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Yes, I've read through that now after missing parts of it the first time. I guess what I missed was that for asset-only, you need to make a new, blank project for your submission so you get nice clean and minimal .uproject and config files, which you then need to include. I should probably write up a short guide myself, assuming I've done everything properly this time

robust vector Aug 21, 2018, 11:59 AM

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It should have gone into changes needed rather than rejected though...

zealous ibex Aug 21, 2018, 12:04 PM

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And you may need an overview level of all your assets, don't quote me on that though

delicate dove Aug 21, 2018, 12:06 PM

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you should

zealous ibex Aug 21, 2018, 12:09 PM

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(And yeah, even if it isn't a requirement anymore, I would definitely recommend it :))

merry field Aug 21, 2018, 12:10 PM

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Hmm, it's primarily blueprint content, but it does include some examples, so I guess it would do no harm to add a demonstration map

zealous ibex Aug 21, 2018, 12:27 PM

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Yeah - especially if it's blueprint you'll want to add a level that essentially tells the user how your blueprint (system) works // what it can do. For example: if you're building a jetpack, you may want some instructions about it's (default) controls on the wall, and then a small level where the user can fly around // use your jetpack in a fun way.

merry field Aug 21, 2018, 1:17 PM

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Thanks for the advice

idle arch Aug 21, 2018, 2:40 PM

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@merry field

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I'll ping someone on marketplace for you

merry field Aug 21, 2018, 2:41 PM

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Ah, no need now - I just copied it all over to a new submission

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Wasn't that much work in the end, but still seems like it might be a bug in the marketplace that I had to do that

idle arch Aug 21, 2018, 2:42 PM

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Oh okay

topaz quest Aug 22, 2018, 8:37 AM

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humm

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does anyone know if I need to do something in the publisher portal if I update my marketplace package

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I suspect I have to, but can't really find a reasonable button 😉

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oh, submit file update

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maybe this

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nope

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do I actually have to change my file URL for changes to get picked up

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keke

lunar fractal Aug 22, 2018, 8:41 AM

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The package (project files) can be changed with the file update yes

oak thistle Aug 22, 2018, 8:41 AM

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You shouldn't have to change the url, no. I don't when I update plugins.

topaz quest Aug 22, 2018, 8:42 AM

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just clicking on submit file update didn't let me press submit though

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I suppose unless I change an entry

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but as mentioned, only the file on the other side of the link is changed ^^

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what do you end up doing @oak thistle ?

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I was about to reply to my publisher email chain

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but if there is some more streamlined way, I should probably do that

oak thistle Aug 22, 2018, 8:44 AM

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Trying (and failing) to remember...

topaz quest Aug 22, 2018, 8:44 AM

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hehe

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its ok

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Ill just ask in my email chain

oak thistle Aug 22, 2018, 8:45 AM

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Maybe something is broken. I had a feeling previously I maybe just added an arbitrary entry to the Version Notes column to force it to accept it, but when I try to do that now, it doesn't even let me add a note.

topaz quest Aug 22, 2018, 8:45 AM

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hmm

oak thistle Aug 22, 2018, 8:47 AM

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Links aren't even editable for me. Something seems broken.

topaz quest Aug 22, 2018, 8:48 AM

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oh well

oak thistle Aug 22, 2018, 8:49 AM

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I reloaded the page and it lets me change stuff...

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And yeah, adjusting the version note is enough to let you submit.

topaz quest Aug 22, 2018, 8:53 AM

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ah

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a bit hackish

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but what I half-expected I suppose

oak thistle Aug 22, 2018, 8:55 AM

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Yeah. Expecting MP stuff to work smoothly is asking for disappointment 😉

topaz quest Aug 22, 2018, 9:20 AM

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:<

ebon leaf Aug 22, 2018, 9:21 AM

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expect the end of the world and everyday is paradise

lucid osprey Aug 22, 2018, 11:19 AM

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yee

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wish i could do reviews of assets

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but i hasnt the money

robust vector Aug 22, 2018, 5:44 PM

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@idle arch Anything in regards to analytics being worked on currently? Even something as simple as a line graph of users logged in per day would be a big help towards deciding whether or not to release products.

idle arch Aug 22, 2018, 6:13 PM

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I know those are something on the board to be done, I just don't know where they fall.

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The current plan, as it stands now, is to roll out the tags to the public next week - then move on from there

tiny stag Aug 22, 2018, 7:56 PM

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Someone know why we cant set Blueprints price to Free?

north stirrup Aug 22, 2018, 8:16 PM

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Only code plugins can be free @tiny stag

tiny stag Aug 22, 2018, 8:20 PM

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But why?

delicate dove Aug 22, 2018, 8:39 PM

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else people might use the mp as a glorified random crap upload thing?

north stirrup Aug 22, 2018, 8:41 PM

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bandwidth costs

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Code plugins are often quite small

robust vector Aug 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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If you aren't selling, there are plenty of other places to host files

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I think you are only allowed to sell things that depend on plugins if the plugin is free, thus the justification for free plugins (this may have changed, everything related to the marketplace has been changing rapidly the last year or so)

delicate dove Aug 22, 2018, 11:54 PM

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gumroad is a good place to host free content, and then a forum post + spamming social media about it

merry field Aug 23, 2018, 12:06 AM

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I think it's because everything on the Marketplace is vetted by Epic staff, and if they also had to look at every piece of free content being uploaded, it would be too much work for them (plus, they wouldn't even make any money out of that work)

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Would be nice if there was a less-vetted secondary Marketplace-like site for free stuff, with the same launcher intergration, though

idle arch Aug 23, 2018, 3:03 AM

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it is not really a concern about us making a profit on something like that.

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It really becomes a question of the content, the functionality, the quality, the number of assets that come in, etc etc.

tiny stag Aug 23, 2018, 3:26 AM

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Ok i get it, thanks for the explanation = )

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Gumroad and other places is not really good place cause it not directly pointing to Unreal Engine, i hope one day they will let me do some free stuff for the community)

hasty nexus Aug 23, 2018, 8:53 AM

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if you want to find or post free content, there's also https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/free

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already integrated with launcher

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😄

zealous ibex Aug 23, 2018, 9:07 AM

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That isn't open for all types of free content though, only plugins or hand-picked//invite-only things (I believe), and I once considered building a Launcher-like application for (free) Gumroad/Itch assets, but then realized that it'd probably be a huge flop + they didn't actually expose the proper APIs to retrieve the content (to my knowledge)

hasty nexus Aug 23, 2018, 9:12 AM

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then it's better if they allow free for other categories of content rather than having another system.

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but probably there was not much interest because people post content to make money out of it. Free is only demanded on customer side 😄

lunar fractal Aug 23, 2018, 9:19 AM

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It's more to not flood the marketplace imo and trying to keep the quality at a specific level

lucid osprey Aug 23, 2018, 9:20 AM

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quality flood

vapid tundra Aug 23, 2018, 9:22 AM

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question would be what specific level? or how low that level actually is.

lucid osprey Aug 23, 2018, 9:23 AM

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all the assets i bought have errors

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but usually its that you cant match all styles or designs

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i hate it when people get sloppy tho

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and from 30 sound files only 10 are good quality and working

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or naming done wrong...

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i found weird stuff

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i usually need to clean assets before using

lunar fractal Aug 23, 2018, 9:24 AM

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I'm not commenting on the quality of the assets just guessing the reasoning for not allowing free content 😉

lucid osprey Aug 23, 2018, 9:25 AM

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oh the reason for that is obv

hasty nexus Aug 23, 2018, 9:27 AM

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on cleaning assets, that's subjective, everyone has a coding conduit that developed with experience or inexperience. what's clean code for me might look dirty for you and vice-versa

vapid tundra Aug 23, 2018, 9:27 AM

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I particularly had a look at some of the FX stuff. And tbh if you can only deliver an lazy ass and sloppy job on flip books ... at least provide working cutouts. It's baffling to see such amateur level of work being sold for real money.

lucid osprey Aug 23, 2018, 9:28 AM

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i wish people would name things obvious

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and keep modular

hasty nexus Aug 23, 2018, 9:29 AM

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naming convention should be followed for sure

lucid osprey Aug 23, 2018, 9:29 AM

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i see things different

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mostly because i can do so much alone

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and one day i will hire luos...

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😛

hasty nexus Aug 23, 2018, 9:30 AM

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well, whatever suits you buddy

lucid osprey Aug 23, 2018, 9:30 AM

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yee

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so you cant really make it work for everyone

delicate dove Aug 23, 2018, 9:51 AM

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Ive been saying that mp curators should focus more on naming conventions and what not but well

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lucid osprey Aug 23, 2018, 9:51 AM

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your packs will always be beautiful ❤

delicate dove Aug 23, 2018, 9:51 AM

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im already happy some more control for sellers is on the far far horizon

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hehe, well ive looked at some of my first..

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shrudder

merry field Aug 23, 2018, 11:54 AM

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Are there guides for those naming conventions?

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As for free assets, there used to be this thread, doesn't appear to have been updated lately though: https://forums.unrealengine.com/community/community-content-tools-and-tutorials/51392-free-community-assets

Unreal Engine Forums

This is the place to show, share, and link to your stuff!

delicate dove Aug 23, 2018, 11:56 AM

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we tend to use https://github.com/Allar/ue4-style-guide

GitHub

Allar/ue4-style-guide

ue4-style-guide - An attempt to make Unreal Engine 4 projects more consistent

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but you can deviate from it if its not too drastic

lunar fractal Aug 23, 2018, 11:57 AM

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Yeah and there is the official one (could be extended imo): https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-us/Programming/Development/CodingStandard

merry field Aug 23, 2018, 12:05 PM

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Ah. I haven't used asset prefixes anywhere, guess that's bad

delicate dove Aug 23, 2018, 12:05 PM

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yuuuup hehe

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prefixes and suffixes are life

lunar fractal Aug 23, 2018, 12:06 PM

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Well, let's say it's not perfect yet 😛

merry field Aug 23, 2018, 12:06 PM

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The way I see it, they're already in folders by content type

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But I should probably do it for things I'm trying to put on the Marketplace at least :)

lunar fractal Aug 23, 2018, 12:07 PM

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Yeah, also helps with the search during asset selection

merry field Aug 23, 2018, 12:07 PM

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The engine usually filters to only show relevant types anyway?

delicate dove Aug 23, 2018, 12:08 PM

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"How to get coders angry with one simple trick, and you wont believe how easy it is"

merry field Aug 23, 2018, 12:09 PM

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Use spaces instead of tabs or tabs instead of spaces, depending on coder

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Works every time

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Though using a random mix of both should work on all coders

delicate dove Aug 23, 2018, 12:09 PM

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anyways, I do suggest to start using them, especially when you start doing it professionally you will get a stern warning for not adding pre/suffixes

rustic belfry Aug 23, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Hey guys, looking for some guidance here - If a company buys assets from the MP - do they have to buy a copy of the asset "per seat" or can they just buy 1 copy and use it within the company as they please? I read the MP agreement but cant find anything there related to this https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/marketplace-distribution-agreement

Marketing Distribution Agreement

modern perch Aug 23, 2018, 2:21 PM

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1 copy

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per seat would get complicated, and expensive, haha

rustic belfry Aug 23, 2018, 2:28 PM

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Thanks for the response @modern perch!

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Had a company approach me about buying a MP asset - that helps 😃

north stirrup Aug 23, 2018, 2:30 PM

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Nice

zealous ibex Aug 23, 2018, 2:30 PM

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Plugins are tricky buisness though, I'm not 100% sure about those (and please do note that most of us don't represent Epic, and aren't lawyers)

rustic belfry Aug 23, 2018, 2:31 PM

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Thanks @north stirrup ! In my case, its a BP project, so I think I can avoid any of the complex source code distribution stuff I think

zealous ibex Aug 23, 2018, 2:31 PM

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But likely 1(A)(c/d) of https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/eula is what you're looking for

c.  Distributions to employees and contractors - You also may Distribute Content (other than Paid Plug-ins) to an Engine Licensee who is your employee or your contractor who does not have rights under their license to the same Content, but only to permit that Engine Licensee to utilize that Content in good faith to develop a Product on your behalf for Distribution by you under the License, and not for the purpose of Content pooling or any other Distribution or sublicensing of Content that is not permitted under this Agreement.  Recipients of such a Distribution have a limited license to use, reproduce, display, perform, and modify that Content to develop your Product as outlined above, and for no other purpose.  

         d.  Distribution of Paid Plug-ins - You may Distribute Paid Plug-ins to each of your Paid Plug-in Users so that they may use those Paid Plug-ins on your behalf under the License.

north stirrup Aug 23, 2018, 2:32 PM

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Always assumed one license per team was enough

zealous ibex Aug 23, 2018, 2:32 PM

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(That plugins clause is.....interesting...."on your behalf" could mean pretty much anything, and "Paid Plug-in Users"? 🤔 I guess that could mean users of the plugin, which just so happens to be priced at a price other that $0 (ie free) )

rustic belfry Aug 23, 2018, 2:35 PM

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Thanks for the link @zealous ibex - this is what I was looking for. From my non-lawyer understanding, a team can buy 1 copy of an asset and use it in "good faith" among other employees for creating a product...so as Ambershee mentioned - 1 copy per team / company is enough

zealous ibex Aug 23, 2018, 2:36 PM

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But yeah - what 1Ac pretty much tells you is that a company (or the owner of said company) can buy a single copy of your blueprint asset, which s/he can then distribute to his/her employees for usage on projects that are going to be released by the company (so employees can't just take them home and use them for their own projects they release for themselves)....but again, I AM NOT A LAWYER, so take it as you want

north stirrup Aug 23, 2018, 2:36 PM

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In the end it's your product, so if you're ok with that then 👌

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Hehe

zealous ibex Aug 23, 2018, 2:37 PM

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I always kind of wish there was some way to distinguish between huge corperations and small indies, but then I guess that does make things unfair + way more complicated ¯_(ツ)_/¯

north stirrup Aug 23, 2018, 2:40 PM

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Well yes

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Make them pay more 💰

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Would be nice

rustic belfry Aug 23, 2018, 2:41 PM

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Haha yeah, now that I think about it - it makes sense since it would get complicated if it was per seat. But yeah, like @zealous ibex said, it feels a bit weird that I pay X for an asset for my hobby / indie game and then Blue Hole pays the same for said asset and makes millions of dollars lol

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But it is what it is 😃

viscid trellis Aug 23, 2018, 3:36 PM

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Hey everyone, I'll be releasing my first marketplace content soon and I have a question. What do you think is the best way to direct users to my documentation if the documentation is a .pdf file? Should I just include the .pdf file in the project folder or is there a better way?

zealous ibex Aug 23, 2018, 3:48 PM

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I guess in part it depends on the type of content - but I'd say that doing that (be sure to double-check the rules about where you are and aren't allowed to put it), and potentially posting it online (in google drive, dropbox, or something like that), and then adding a link to the bottom of your product's page should work.

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If it's a plugin then you can also add it to the .uplugin file, though I'm pretty sure you'll need it hosted then too (you may be able to use a relative path, but I'm not 100% sure about that), which will in turn add it to the plugin browser as the documentation link

viscid trellis Aug 23, 2018, 3:51 PM

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Yeah, good idea about just directing people to an online version. That will be much easier to update as well

zealous ibex Aug 23, 2018, 4:03 PM

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I've personally just used a google docs document + exported a pdf every time there was a major change, but if you're already working with another system, you may very well be better off just mirroring the PDF on a (free) file hosting website

harsh coral Aug 23, 2018, 4:29 PM

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@tiny stag just lower the price of your MP pack, put the link to the free version in the description and state that the purchase is an optional donation... best of both worlds.

tiny stag Aug 23, 2018, 4:30 PM

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@harsh coral Thats what i already did = )

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@harsh coral Thanks for tip anyway

harsh coral Aug 23, 2018, 4:30 PM

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👍🏼

robust vector Aug 23, 2018, 5:54 PM

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You aren't allowed to have links like that as far as I am aware

delicate dove Aug 23, 2018, 6:04 PM

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regular website/docs etc are preferred

grim stratus Aug 23, 2018, 10:11 PM

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has anyone elses marketplace sales fallen flat the past 2 months

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talked to another content creator and he said his did as well. just curious what the general feel is. I am guessing it is because end of summer and sales will start back up again after school starts?

robust vector Aug 23, 2018, 10:24 PM

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I hope so

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Sales fell off the edge of the Earth about Mid-April for me

fleet garnet Aug 23, 2018, 10:36 PM

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I haven't had a sale for weeks, I was getting multiple per day and it just suddenly stopped

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as far as I can remember the sales last summer were also really bad

pliant forum Aug 23, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Tbh, I'm sad and happy at the same time. I'm happy to know it's a trend and not just my stuff that has had next to no sales during this summer (counting from after summer sale ended)

robust vector Aug 23, 2018, 11:17 PM

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There's also that free Paragon content dump to consider

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I'm sure that didn't help anyone's character model sales

wooden falcon Aug 24, 2018, 2:04 AM

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I've just come to accept that the only time I'll sell is during a holiday sale now :/

north stirrup Aug 24, 2018, 2:07 AM

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😢

zealous kelp Aug 24, 2018, 6:55 AM

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ive made alot of marketplace purchases over the years but it seems now my card gets blocked if i purchase, i assumed this happens now due to fortnite and people purchasing vbucks or whatever they are with stolen cards now...pretty annoying having to reactivate my card everytime I purchase from MP now.........

vapid tundra Aug 24, 2018, 8:04 AM

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Isn't it great?! 😄

ripe matrix Aug 24, 2018, 11:37 AM

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Hello guys!
There is someone who bought https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/ballistics-fx that assets pack?
I want buy it, but can't find enough info about assets and their count

Ballistics FX by Cubit Studios in FX - UE4 Marketplace

A weapon FX library starting with 93 impact particles (small/med/large impact FX for 31 materials) with more to come. There are also ricochet FX, destruction fragment FX and a grenade launcher with shrapnel.

oak thistle Aug 24, 2018, 11:56 AM

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@ripe matrix Did you email the creator? You get contact details by clicking the creator's name.

ripe matrix Aug 24, 2018, 11:57 AM

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@oak thistle yes, I emailed him and left comment under his product. No reaction

oak thistle Aug 24, 2018, 11:58 AM

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Okay, I know him and he's been busy lately. I'll ping him for you in case he's missed it.

ripe matrix Aug 24, 2018, 11:59 AM

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@oak thistle thank you sir 😊

delicate dove Aug 24, 2018, 12:09 PM

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yea he has been really busy with his game. its a great pack though

ripe matrix Aug 24, 2018, 12:15 PM

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@delicate dove do you have it? Can you call 'tree' command at cmd and send me screenshot?

delicate dove Aug 24, 2018, 12:16 PM

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I dont have it myself, a previous client used it loads but I no longer have accessto the project

oak thistle Aug 24, 2018, 12:16 PM

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He said he's found your email (went to spam folder) so you should hear from him soon.

ripe matrix Aug 24, 2018, 12:17 PM

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@oak thistle got it, thanks again

oak thistle Aug 24, 2018, 12:18 PM

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No problem

grim stratus Aug 24, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Wait so something changed in the checkout process that caused the sales to drop or is it just because it end of summer?

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What do you mean reactivate your card?

wooden falcon Aug 24, 2018, 4:42 PM

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I'd imagine his bank deactivates it automatically when he makes a MP purchase, thinking it is fraud

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use paypal instead?

zealous ibex Aug 24, 2018, 7:22 PM

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I don't think the checkout would have too big an influence on the sales - but I'm pretty sure that this season of the year always yields pretty bad sales. I'm not an expert on this though, and there were a few other bugs (like search not properly working) that lasted for a few days I guess, as well as that paragon "dump", but that'd likely not affect my sales significantly 🤔

zealous kelp Aug 24, 2018, 7:57 PM

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@grim stratus the bank now flags a purchase from unreal engine as possible fraud and blocks any further internet purchases until I ring them and unblock...its never happened before since the MP opened

pseudo sundial Aug 24, 2018, 8:48 PM

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yeah it might be from Fortnite and an increase in fraud from that. can your bank whitelist them, like don't flag it anymore so you don't have to call them up everytime?

zealous kelp Aug 24, 2018, 8:56 PM

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I think ill just have to put up with it as whitelisting could also be dangerous because something must have significantly changed with the amount of fraud(probably the popularity of fortnite)....before the MP had a shopping cart i used to buy sometimes over 5 items in a sale one after another and the bank never flagged a thing

merry field Aug 25, 2018, 1:25 AM

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I hear there's a lot of people trying to hack into "Unreal Engine" accounts, too (aka, Epic accounts, including of people who only use them for UE4)

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Since Fortnite became so popular

ebon leaf Aug 25, 2018, 2:07 AM

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Definitely not surprised

delicate dove Aug 25, 2018, 1:02 PM

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lowering the prices of my packs seems to have worked a bit.

robust vector Aug 25, 2018, 9:04 PM

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Does anyone have any feedback for sound they would like to buy, but can't find on the marketplace currently?

merry field Aug 25, 2018, 10:00 PM

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What do people usually do to spread news about their new marketplace releases?

robust vector Aug 25, 2018, 10:26 PM

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Scream at nobody on twitter mostly

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Just shout into the void

merry field Aug 25, 2018, 11:36 PM

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Ah, so open the window and shout into the street?

fleet garnet Aug 26, 2018, 1:24 AM

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my marketing is mostly me posting on twitter to mostly bots because I have maybe 2 real followers and other 100 are probably bots

and trying to get the attention of people that already bought something from me

north stirrup Aug 26, 2018, 1:25 AM

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bots ftw

wheat sky Aug 26, 2018, 6:52 AM

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delicate dove Aug 26, 2018, 9:07 AM

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for 250 euro we can get a banner at the local snackbar for a month. I am so tempted to put something stupid on there

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"for all your ue4 marketplace.."
i bet nobody in the near vicinity will know what its about.

north stirrup Aug 26, 2018, 9:08 AM

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Damn you really got that much money from those additional 18%? 😛

delicate dove Aug 26, 2018, 9:13 AM

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nah non-related, ever saw the banner there saying you can get that thing for a month I wanted to put something silly on it

modern perch Aug 26, 2018, 9:43 AM

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make up some kind of 'Christians against X' dumb lobby group 😄

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e.g. the classic 'Christians against Seedless Watermelons'

delicate dove Aug 26, 2018, 9:49 AM

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XD

vapid tundra Aug 26, 2018, 9:54 AM

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for more attention exchange Christians with Muslims

north stirrup Aug 26, 2018, 9:55 AM

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lol

modern perch Aug 26, 2018, 1:53 PM

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...what?

leaden root Aug 26, 2018, 2:12 PM

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I think he means directional weapon combat

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Instead of generic attack swings

rustic belfry Aug 26, 2018, 3:57 PM

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There's my upcoming project - The Animal Behavior Kit https://youtu.be/GGFDcMkQ4C8

YouTube

Coqui Games

Animal Behavior Kit - Circle Of Life

Hey guys, Just a silly video where I showcase the general cycle of the AI with the new custom animations. There is also a brand new update - can you spot it?...

▶ Play video

zealous ibex Aug 27, 2018, 8:17 AM

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Nice 👍

delicate dove Aug 27, 2018, 9:42 AM

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@ebon leaf be a bit more kind, not to mention you where very unclear in your wording.

delicate dove Aug 27, 2018, 9:59 AM

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quite full of yourself arent we?

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#old-rules among other things

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there we go

lean venture Aug 27, 2018, 10:01 AM

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You interrupted my reading :/

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I was almost done absorbing the drama.

delicate dove Aug 27, 2018, 10:01 AM

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dude, i snorted coffee out of my nose

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hot coffee

lean venture Aug 27, 2018, 10:02 AM

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✅

vapid tundra Aug 27, 2018, 10:02 AM

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i was also reading the blocked messages 😄

delicate dove Aug 27, 2018, 10:06 AM

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those messages wherent for you @vapid tundra

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but for me, he was clearly talking to me

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therefore they wherent for you

vapid tundra Aug 27, 2018, 10:06 AM

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aww 😄

delicate dove Aug 27, 2018, 10:06 AM

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<_<

ebon leaf Aug 27, 2018, 12:21 PM

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anyone know a good sword and melee weapons animation set that has cough 4 directions of attacking and blocking and they look realistic and simple not overdone

fleet garnet Aug 27, 2018, 1:05 PM

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what did I miss 😐

zealous ibex Aug 27, 2018, 1:07 PM

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Everything 😉

fleet garnet Aug 27, 2018, 1:17 PM

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I always miss the interesting stuff

wooden falcon Aug 27, 2018, 3:47 PM

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I think Luos was just talking to himself :/

delicate dove Aug 27, 2018, 3:48 PM

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hehe

hexed wadi Aug 27, 2018, 5:54 PM

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Just released my first plugin 😃

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https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/tweenmaker

TweenMaker by FrancescoDesogus in Code Plugins - UE4 Marketplace

Create animations in a matter of seconds for your Actors, SceneComponents, Materials, UMG widgets or pretty much anything you like, either in Blueprints or C++.

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An animation system to create simple tweens on the fly

delicate dove Aug 27, 2018, 5:57 PM

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quite a nice showcase

hexed wadi Aug 27, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Thank you sir! 😃

zealous ibex Aug 27, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Congrats @hexed wadi 😃

hasty nexus Aug 27, 2018, 9:00 PM

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one of you talented guys should put in place a plugin that rigs a skeleton to a mesh

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i'd buy that

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doing the skin weight automatically somehow and just be needing some fine tuning

oak fiber Aug 27, 2018, 9:07 PM

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Its not an easy do. Maya, Max, Modo, LW, XSI, c4D......? esp the first 4 have tools/process since ever that still requires a full TD to help setup

hasty nexus Aug 27, 2018, 9:13 PM

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you could set the mannequin as a reference, get the proportions and adapt it

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this would be the help

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hard, but valuable

oak fiber Aug 27, 2018, 9:20 PM

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you could even have a pre-weighted couple of versions

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but, most lilkely, you want a Rig TD and a Pipe TD (or both in one person).

robust vector Aug 28, 2018, 12:10 AM

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I don't see any way you could ever get good results out of an automatic tool.

polar schooner Aug 28, 2018, 8:05 AM

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@rustic belfry the animal stops very fast, increase the delay in the blendspace. Good pack!

rustic belfry Aug 28, 2018, 1:31 PM

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Thanks for the suggestion @polar schooner ! Will definitely look into it before release 😃

sullen cradle Aug 28, 2018, 1:48 PM

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dammit it's paid

wooden falcon Aug 28, 2018, 2:34 PM

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so is the tag system live now?

lunar fractal Aug 28, 2018, 2:39 PM

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Forum said it was delayed

idle arch Aug 28, 2018, 2:40 PM

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It is delayed for now

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We are aiming at next week.

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We discovered some UX issues we want to address.

craggy acorn Aug 28, 2018, 2:45 PM

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📎 ElvinBowPromo.jpg

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📎 ElvinSpearPromo.jpg

delicate dove Aug 28, 2018, 2:45 PM

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@craggy acorn this isnt really a wip-channel

craggy acorn Aug 28, 2018, 2:45 PM

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not a work in progress tho xD , its a weapons kit im putting on the market place

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Elven Weapon Kit

delicate dove Aug 28, 2018, 2:46 PM

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hence the b2m/similar software env?