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buoyant cradle
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If you buy the Crazy Insane Low Poly Stylized Tree in the next hour, you will get that same s<3tty tree with a 3 time subdivided Icosphere

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So you can put your low Poly to the next level

wooden falcon
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ooo...Hi-poly Low Poly

buoyant cradle
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Let's not get ridiculous, this is "next gen low poly" and you will be 1 step ahead of your competitors

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For only nein, neinty nein

ebon leaf
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next gen low poly? when it gets even LOWER poly than now? So it's jsut a square? SOLD! XD

wooden falcon
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low poly 2D :/

white osprey
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Yep, I fixed that badges issue. Just let me know if that happens to anyone else

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STEPH IS GOING TO GDC SO YOU CAN MEET HER IN PERSON. DON'T TELL HER I SAID THIS SHE'LL KILL ME.

sleek egret
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ALEX ๐Ÿ˜ 

abstract hatch
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EVERYONE SAY HI TO STEPHANIE AT GDC AND TELL HER A REALLY FUNNY JOKE

white osprey
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Also hugs, give her many hugs. Don't even ask permission

zealous ibex
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lol

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Wonder how many staff are still there when I first go to GDC kappa if I ever even go

wooden falcon
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Someone needs to walk up to Stephanie at GDC and go "Hi! I sent an update request like, 3 weeks ago, and haven't heard anything..."

abstract hatch
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@wooden falcon Or not ๐Ÿ˜›

wooden falcon
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

sleek egret
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เฒ _เฒ 

oak fiber
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typo frontpage?

heady moth
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Yeah noticed it too

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But am on vacation so can't change it

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I was aware of the issue and I'm very sure i fixed it before i left but I might've just not sent the update

elfin plinth
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Drag & Derp

gaunt flicker
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DRAG AND DERP

modern perch
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hahaha, I too read it as 'drag and derp'

oak fiber
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@heady moth congrats on vacation ๐Ÿ˜„

half mist
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wtf O.o

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Why do I need to pay $100 to get my game on steam?

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Dont they not take % from poeple that buy the games?

elfin plinth
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@half mist if you worry about 90โ‚ฌ / $100, you probably shouldn't consider doing business in steam

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fee was introduced for one reason alone, to prevent people from submitting all the joke games/garbage, although history has taught us that it doesn't really work that well

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also, this isn't really a topic for #fab as this channel is about ue's own marketplace

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also, since you didn't read the page description, Valve doesn't even take the fee for themselves, they give all of it to charity

half mist
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I was just taking a look to see how this works so I know what to do when my game is finished

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And yea I guess thats a good reason

flat schooner
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Morning

half mist
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Morning

flat schooner
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Christmas sale is over I wonder how the rest of feb will be.

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I mean if I sale at least one item :)

strange yacht
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As a note, I do believe you only need to pay it once

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And that's it

elfin plinth
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yeah, it's only once per account

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unless you break the terms

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then you pretty much just lose your money

flat schooner
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If u want to put your game on steam and you don't want to pay 100$ you are cheap bastard

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Yes I said it!

brazen forum
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That $100 is the least of your worries too if you are planning on forming a company to protect your assets in the case you are sued...

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I'm curious about that, do most people here have an LLC or some company they publish under? (Probably more of a discussion for general sorry I thought I was in that room)

flat schooner
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Got question

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*Good

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@zealous oasis shipped a game recently, do u have company?

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I mean LLC

brazen forum
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LLC might just be a US thing I'm not sure though.

flat schooner
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Yes it is but the concept of it works in every capitalist country

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When I say lcc i mean legal company

modern perch
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I have a limited company that handles my stuff

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it's not entirely indistinct from an LLC

half mist
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@elfin plinth You need to pay for it every month?

brazen forum
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@half mist I think the Steam Greenlight fee is a one time deal

elfin plinth
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LLC is typical

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you can form limited liability companies around the world, it's not something that just US people do (although they use the term LLC there)

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and greenlight is fee you pay only once for your steam account

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you can then put as many games up to greenlight with that account as you want (as long as you don't break their terms)

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but yeah, that fee should be least of your worries

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you don't have to have LLC to sell on steam but pretty sure you need to have a company still

brazen forum
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@elfin plinth do you know if you can post as many games as you want if you have an early access account or is that just for greenlight? (Or do you have to go through the whole process for each game)

elfin plinth
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and running one will cost way more

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๐Ÿ˜„

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@brazen forum not sure about how they deal that once you've published already one game on steam

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but you can put as many greenlight projects there as you want with that fee

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although, if your game is VR game, it's possible to bypass the greenlight process altogether by showing your game directly to valve

snow ember
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always good practice to form a limited liability company if you're serious about building a business

half mist
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@elfin plinth LLC? And what do you mean I have to have a company?

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I'm developing the game and I have someone else thats helping me with models and animations

snow ember
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depends where you live but usually the overheads of a limited company are pretty low

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in the UK you can set one up in 10 minutes online with 10 pounds capital

elfin plinth
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pretty sure steam requires you to have a company if you sell a game on steam, unless you can find a publisher for the game that lets you operate without one

half mist
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A limited company? lol I'm just a person that made a game for fun and maybe a bit of money if I will decide to not put it for free

strange yacht
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I would highly suggest looking up what the local regs are

elfin plinth
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I haven't published on steam though, that's just what I've heard

strange yacht
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It's always a good idea to be prepared if money's involved, amiko

elfin plinth
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well, if you don't want to run business, steam is probably not the best platform for you

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@half mist ^

strange yacht
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Itch.io and Humble Store offer listings

half mist
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This game for example is just a fun project that someone did and decided to post

elfin plinth
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You do not need to form a company, but many developers have found it to be beneficial. It will depend on where you do business and what kind of laws are applicable there. Once your game has been Greenlit, you will need a single individual or entity that will be paid for sales of your product. We cannot split payments to multiple individuals or members of a partnership.```
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they must have changed that

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they used to require it in past

half mist
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Ok then I guess I will do some reading now

elfin plinth
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they used to have some age limit too in past but I can't find it

flat schooner
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Fun fact: LLC in Polish is ZOO ๐Ÿ˜„

strange yacht
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Djien dobre, friend! Thus exhausts my Polish

flat schooner
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ almost, but it was very nice: Dzieล„ dobry to you ๐Ÿ˜„

heady moth
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Yes you can drag & derp

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@modern perch @elfin plinth @gaunt flicker

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It's the new drag & drop

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See it as 2.0

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜›

flat schooner
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hey

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I got this idea for a marketplace

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asset

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Sound of every buildin from strategic game

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like: wooden workshop, temple, shipyard, market, farm, etc

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Like it was in first two parts of warcraft

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what dou you think?

flat schooner
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Great ๐Ÿ˜ƒ I need your help then. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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I made a GDD with all the sounds that should be in this pack

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Feel free to comment what do u think should be there ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Thank you for your help ๐Ÿ˜ƒ I will get back to you

lean venture
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Or the entire MapVote template

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If interested, how much would you think it's worth?

lime glen
ebon leaf
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Anyone else getting double ups in messages on discord atm?

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Anyone else getting double ups in messages on discord atm?

zealous kelp
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no

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no

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no

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no

ebon leaf
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not sure if joking or not ๐Ÿ˜›

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not sure if joking or not ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous kelp
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was but got double msg

ebon leaf
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haha

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seems to have just fixed... hopefully

zealous ibex
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Yeah discord is buggy ๐Ÿ˜›

wooden falcon
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maybe it was just an echo :/

zealous ibex
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Nah it's a discord bug

ebon leaf
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#BringBackSlack

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#NotReally

zealous ibex
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I mean slack had message starring which I really miss, but other than that, discord is just fine

ebon leaf
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I didn't relal ylike slack much haha. But I was already using discord before I tried slack shrugs

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I just wonder what happened to Nick ๐Ÿ˜› He got the dev grant, slack never got upgraded to the paid community, then we moved to discord which is still free, and now he's never around ๐Ÿ˜› Moved to Rio perhaps? XD

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜› He's back on twitter tho

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And for slack it's like 8 or something/mo/member

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So do the math with 4k members ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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Oh I'm not really saying he should have put it there ๐Ÿ˜› just thought it's funny that he pretty much went AWOL after the devgrant haha. Not really sure WHY he got the grant in the first place, it was never something that needed money thrown at it IMO shrugs but that was Epic's call I guess

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜›

scarlet wave
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@ebon leaf oh you donkey! of course it's epic's call! now when you get your dev grant, because I ahve been so SUPPORTIVE of you.... I'm thinking 40%? should be coming my way!

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lmao

ebon leaf
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pfft, good luck finding me. I'll be in Rio too ๐Ÿ˜›

heady moth
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Not here @ebon leaf

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Not here @ebon leaf

ebon leaf
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bit late for that ๐Ÿ˜›

heady moth
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oh

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oh

ebon leaf
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inb4 mods kick your for spamming ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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lol
lol

delicate dove
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hey guys, the double post stuff has been solved already!

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hey guys, the double post stuff has been solved already!

plush pond
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(continuing discussion)

elfin plinth
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basically one huge issue is that regular users are not even aware they can vote for community pick

plush pond
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some marketplace asset might 1 5 star review

elfin plinth
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if @gaunt flicker wouldn't have been asking for people to vote for Linter I wouldn't have even known where the voting page was

delicate dove
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allar spend 1 day asking for votes and he won :p

elfin plinth
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well, as positive side, at least now I know how the voting works

delicate dove
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that also kind of shows how many people care about wanting to vote

elfin plinth
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but doesn't mean I accept the system

delicate dove
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i hate it, i hope they remove it asap

ebon leaf
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the comment adam made in the creators hub seems to indicate that they think it's a big success and it's not going anywhere

plush pond
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I hope they add a Vote this for the community pick! button to the marketplace asset page that appears once you buy it

elfin plinth
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well, if they want to keep it, they really need to make people aware how the voting even works

ebon leaf
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I don't think the voting thing is really beneficial... it's only for new packs, which already have plenty of exposure simply by being new... and on top of that a the packs getting voted for, just by virtue of being new, either haven't been used, or have had very short term use at most. It seems like a pointless system that just serves to further add more exposure to assets that aren't suffering from the discoverability issue.

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that's my addition to a conversation that I wasn't following at all ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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crocks where also a big success, and not many people agree with that too

ebon leaf
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lol @delicate dove

plush pond
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yea maybe they just should remove it and make Epic pick instead

elfin plinth
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^

plush pond
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that isn't for just new assets

elfin plinth
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but

delicate dove
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i rather just have a random highlight that randomized every refresh

elfin plinth
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tbh, I wouldn't trust marketplace staff picks either

ebon leaf
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There was a heap of suggestions other than community pick... not sure that the community pick really had anyone behind it... but that was what they went with haha

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@delicate dove ding ding ding we have a winner.

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I personally think a "recently updated" would be good, BUT it would need curation to make sure they were meaning ful updates, not just version upgrades or little bug fixes to avoid abuse... which atm, adding more manual work to the marketplace team isn't ideal lol

elfin plinth
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they could make top sellers etc lists so people would see what kind of things attract the customers

ebon leaf
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that aside, random highlighting is the best imo

elfin plinth
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of course, that would make well selling assets sell even more

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which isn't necessarily a bad thing as crap products don't sell that well anyway

delicate dove
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not to mention how well the community picks have been taken care of, having month old ones still high up

ebon leaf
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yeah

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tbh, i'd rather just go back to the extra featured new items and have them focus on automation if this is the way it's gonna be with featured changes haha

delicate dove
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well, no use suggesting stuff anyways :p
/me looks at the awesome wish list

ebon leaf
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yeah... Adam mentioned that there were a few big things planned for 2017... hopefully that turns out to be true but at this stage I'm honestly not hopeful. It's very clear that Epic, outside of the marketplace team, don't consider the marketplace a priority lol

delicate dove
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flashback to 2015

ebon leaf
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what happened then? I only started in feb 2016 ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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that there were a few big things planned for 2016... hopefully that turns out to be true but at this stage I'm honestly not hopeful. It's very clear that Epic, outside of the marketplace team, don't consider the marketplace a priority lol

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:p

ebon leaf
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lol ouch ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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that said

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the new sale-stuff is a great addition

ebon leaf
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hey man... we can update our version compatibility ๐Ÿ˜› that's a big deal haha

delicate dove
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cyber monday, that kind of stuff

ebon leaf
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yeah definitely.

delicate dove
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good that you told me, totes forgot if i added 4.14 compat. :p

ebon leaf
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haha ๐Ÿ˜›

plush pond
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I wonder how epic profits from the sales, they still have to pay 70% of the base price to the asset maker

zealous ibex
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Tim said the MP wasen't profiting enough to allocate a lot of time (or atleast that's what I heard)

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But then again, I should think 30% of all sales sums up to quite something

ebon leaf
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yeah... but it's a chicken and egg. Atm they have to pay way more pepole than they should to manage the marketplace stuff, which could largely be automated lol

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then it becomes more profitable, as well as more well oiled to promote more positive change, to then result in hopefully more sales, so it's even more profitable lol

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but... what do we know ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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they are making millions, im sure

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but thas pocketchange for companies like epic

zealous ibex
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Doubt millions

delicate dove
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all im saying is that just one guy made a few 100k last year

plush pond
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who?

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ no way

plush pond
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Allar? ๐Ÿ˜„

delicate dove
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not allowed to say unless he/she goes "me"

zealous ibex
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"me" kappa

ebon leaf
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yeah... i mean, there's a lot of sellers that don't make a lot, but there's a lot as well that make a decent living off it haha. And there is a LOT of assets there now ๐Ÿ˜›

plush pond
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ok I really need to finish my replay system

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lol

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๐Ÿค‘ ๐Ÿค‘ ๐Ÿค‘ ๐Ÿค‘ ๐Ÿค‘

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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lol

zealous ibex
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@plush pond 100k isn't easy, but I mean I got like nearly 150 on a suuuuper saturated market ๐Ÿ˜›

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And I havent seen any replay stuff recently ๐Ÿ˜‰

ebon leaf
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pretty sure someone said in this very channle the other day that their december was ~$28k

zealous ibex
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Holy $hit ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

plush pond
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woah

ebon leaf
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If you can get the right things out there, and things that aren't already there are definitely the right hting if you do a good job, you can make a bit

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that said... most people make a little from what I can tell ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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Time to make a new asset kappa

ebon leaf
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I recommend a "make game now" button. That seems to be what a lot of people want/ask for ๐Ÿ˜›

plush pond
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yeah

zealous ibex
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xD

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I guess templates is a saturated market ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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make that a "Make MMO" button and you'll be in the money

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though I think there is literally already one of those on the forums

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@zealous ibex templates aren't worth the work. Trust me on this ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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xD

plush pond
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probably more than free donation based indie games still

ebon leaf
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template = LOTS of "why doesn't the make game button work?" emails/questions... the other two packs I have - the support emails for them are great though haha

plush pond
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We made about 150USD from the highschool101

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which was played by multiple million subscriber youtube channels

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including jacksepticeye

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130k downloads or something

ebon leaf
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donations are never a good way to make money in my experience lol

plush pond
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yeah

delicate dove
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unless you make porn videos with game characters

plush pond
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people at itch.io don't even know how to unzip games and refund their 1 dollar donation for that reason

ebon leaf
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@delicate dove lol... I still feel like that probably doesn't get a lot of donations?

delicate dove
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thousands and thousands of dollars

ebon leaf
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lol dafuq

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i'm in the wrong part of the industry XD

plush pond
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You've experience?

delicate dove
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i wish i could do that hehe

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i think one of the overwatch porn creators makes about 12k/month trough donations

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or per video

ebon leaf
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people with money make me sad lol

buoyant cradle
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Overwatch porn creator? I thought it was a 1 time job, people still want that? :3

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Jesus, stop making me depressed ๐Ÿ˜„

delicate dove
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there is one who does fallout-esque adult stuff, uses models from other games. i.e. Ellie from the last of us

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guy makes 7.5k an episode

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and its basically the same pelvic thrust every timeXD

ebon leaf
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...isn't ellie meant to be like 13 =/

delicate dove
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patreon is fine with that apprently

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already reported it

ebon leaf
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wow... okay. blah

delicate dove
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suddenly im getting 20+ pm's for a link

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you pervs!

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XD

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just kidding

ebon leaf
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lol

delicate dove
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anyways enough offtopic

zealous ibex
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Anyone else have the issue when you go to your marketplace pack in the morning and you just get redirected to a signing out page?

ebon leaf
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yeah. It's been reported int he creators hub and Epic are aware of it

zealous ibex
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sry never seen the creators hub LMAO

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But ty for confirming it wasent only me ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

ebon leaf
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you would have only gotten access to it assince you got that new badge ๐Ÿ˜‰

zealous ibex
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Where do I find it doe? ๐Ÿ˜‰

humble stag
ebon leaf
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@zealous ibex oh shit lol, I wasn't watchign this channel. But yeah, what @humble stag said haha

zealous ibex
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aha, ty <3!

gaunt flicker
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@plush pond Definitely not me

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Art assets have far more potential in making money imo

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Unless you go full mmo

plush pond
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Generic shooter is super popular

gaunt flicker
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But there are sellers who have a huge set of assets that are well made and highly priced

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Which will definitely overshadow my single asset's sales

buoyant cradle
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Art more valueable than code ๐Ÿค” Must be marketplace exclusive

brazen forum
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@buoyant cradle If you write your own code the art is definitely very valuable ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

buoyant cradle
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But what if I make art, by programming, visual stuff that already has an implementation? That is rare on the marketplace, right?

ebon leaf
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with art you can also transfer it from marketplace to marketplace I think with less overhead (could be completely wrong though)

buoyant cradle
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^yeah, pretty sure that is right

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you can export to everything

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wish Visual Studio had such a function: convert Unreal c++ to Unity c#

elfin plinth
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"Depends"

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Ue4 art can still have special ue4 material

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like, you do environment art and have foliage, people want wind effect

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or other animations

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or.. you do characters

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animations are a whole another thing

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if you do just the trivial "lets export individual textures for everything" + static meshes, it's a lot easier

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which many sellers do

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because it's easier

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(not always better)

buoyant cradle
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guess gamedev rules apply, you never know what your customer wants

delicate dove
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we cant see an overview of every month of the last year anymore right?

modern perch
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just one month at a time

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has anyone had a payout recently, btw?

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we didn't get one the whole of December, and haven't now for nearly 8 weeks

delicate dove
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imho after the report changes its been one clusterfuck

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I need to send my laywer proof of loss of income (cuncussion), but due to the massive delays of the reports, along with how ffed up uncomrehencible it is for the average dutch person that will be involved in checking the situation out.

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I will need to add at least a few pages explaining how it all works

zealous ibex
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8 weeks does seem more than 45 days

modern perch
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yeah, it has been more than 45 days

delicate dove
flat schooner
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hey

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where are submition guidlines for plugins?

quartz acorn
plush pond
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Can these be chanced in a later update? Technical Specifications:

Number of Blueprints
Input Mappings (If any input is included in your Complete Project, please include which methods of input are preconfigured (Gamepad, Keyboard, Mouse... etc.))
Network Replicated (Yes/No)
List of Features (Please include a full, comprehensive list of the features of your Blueprint)
Intended Platforms
Platforms Tested
Documentation Included (Yes/No)
Important/Additional Notes

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for example if I later on decide to add network support

abstract hatch
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@plush pond Yes

plush pond
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ok, thanks

zealous ibex
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Oh $hit

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I forgot to update the number of blueprints in my later releases ๐Ÿ˜›

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I've easily added 5 blueprints ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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@zealous ibex wow... reporting you to epic right this second. CONSIDER YOUR CAREER OVER ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜›

gaunt flicker
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If you send an email to a seller asking a question... how long do you wait before getting angry?

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If you haven't gotten a reply

ebon leaf
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3 seconds. ๐Ÿ˜›

gaunt flicker
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Aye

ebon leaf
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in my experience, if they are going to get angry they already are in the first place haha. That's as a seller though, so same as your experience I assume ๐Ÿ˜›

gaunt flicker
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I got 3 emails within a 3 hour span

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Someone is super angry and 'its not ethical for me not to respond'

ebon leaf
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lol yeah... you had no hope of making that person happy methinks

gaunt flicker
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I figure 3 business days is a good response time, /shrug

ebon leaf
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yeah, I'd say that's fair.

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3 hours is definitely expecting a bit much, particularly in a community made up of people from all different time zones ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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I generally respond within 24 hours ๐Ÿ˜›

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But 3 buisness days seems fair

ebon leaf
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Same. Generally even if I can't respond, I send a "thanks for the email, busy atm but will get back to you soon" from my phone ๐Ÿ˜›

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but regardless, getting agro after 3 hours is nuts

zealous ibex
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Yeah

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Yeah

delicate dove
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I just replied yesterday to an email i totes missed a few months back XD

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normally i reply fast though, just missed it entirely

ebon leaf
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lol ouch ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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ouch

rustic siren
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oh wow, I was rushing to respond within few hours each time

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silly me

delicate dove
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hehe

zealous ibex
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rip @rustic siren

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At least you'll have an A for speed on your customer service ๐Ÿ˜‰

rustic siren
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bastards still don't bother leaving a rating on the asset

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starting to think I need to reply with "don't forget to rate the thingy"

ebon leaf
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probably get 1/5 stars for being 'annoying' then lol

zealous ibex
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Hey I guess that's better than people who don't properly view the level and leave a 1 star review

ebon leaf
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Don't ratings work like golf scores anyway? The lower the better? ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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("When I pick all the pickups up I have no items in my inventory")
YEAH, SEEN THE -, that's for removing the items ^^^

delicate dove
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@rustic siren EVERY time i read your name, my head goes "slap anus"
which is dutch for weak anus

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ sowwy

rustic siren
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if its any consolation, you're not the only one

delicate dove
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thank god

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still, just hadto get it out of my system

jovial thunder
#

Ugh... People always downvote positive comments on my marketpace packs...

zealous ibex
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@delicate dove thank's for now giving me that association ๐Ÿคฆ

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And that sucks @jovial thunder

jolly roost
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i hate that i dont get notifications from when people comment on my stuff

idle token
#

@gaunt flicker Depends a lot on the asset price and such and on the asset. E.g. if it is cheap or mentions no support. Otherwise, especially if support is used as a selling point, <24h response time is exceptional, 1 business day is good, up to 3 business days is okay, anything more and it quickly becomes pointless, because there may as well be no support. Again, depends on complexity of asset and question.

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But yeah 3 emails in 3 hours is bogus. If it's critical, I might ping again the next day if I got no response, but I see a lot of really basic questions on the marketplace comments, so I guess if you get spammed with those I'd understand if it takes 3 or more days to answer them... if you do at all.

quaint cedar
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ร–hm, since when can we add C++ code to our marketplace projects?

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I thought only BP only or C++ plugin?

lone mountain
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@quaint cedar old news

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The first one was that Shooter C++ project

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I think that was over the summer, maybe even spring last year.

quaint cedar
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Coolio

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Didn't know

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My last information was, BP only projects and C++ Plugins

lone mountain
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TBH, I didn't even know there were more out there?

quaint cedar
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Well i had discussions about PRs that allow me to use stuff in Blueprints WITH marketplace folks

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no one told me i can just use c++

lone mountain
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Ah

quaint cedar
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/flip

lone mountain
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The problem that I see now, is we can't find C++ projects

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I don't even know where that C++ Shooter project went to

quaint cedar
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They are listed under Blueprints, yes

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But they have C++ in them

lone mountain
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Yeah, that makes no sense

quaint cedar
lone mountain
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Ah, that's another one

quaint cedar
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Yeah idk about more, as they got linked to me

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Got asked if my Crafting system is supporting C++

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Well.. of course not as I thought BP only

lone mountain
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Haha

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But now you know

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You could do it now, and then just expose everything to BP

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and viola

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C++/BP project

quaint cedar
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Na, i will make 2 versions

lone mountain
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Ah

quaint cedar
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As there are enough people who don't want c++ in their projects

lone mountain
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true true

quaint cedar
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Will still have a talk with Steph and Adam on monday

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Wanna know what's that all about

lone mountain
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There it is

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I wish I could get the link to the website version from launcher

gaunt flicker
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#SundayMorning

jolly roost
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lol

elfin plinth
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@lone mountain you sure that's not a plugin though?

ebon leaf
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The shooter kit is a cpp project. That was the first one that epic was "trialling". AFAIK there were not any after that though I haven't looked into the other links he gave

jolly smelt
elfin plinth
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So, this happened

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As marketplace is so slow in including new version of the plugins, allegorithmic now provides binaries themself too

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I really think marketplace staff should reconsider update policies for existing assets so they could be pushed through asap

ashen sun
#

it's apparently memory injection validation but it looks like a HUGE pain to sit and make sure all your important bits are encrypted

lone mountain
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@elfin plinth 3 months late

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They didn't have one up there for 4.14 at all?

elfin plinth
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they had

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that's another release

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@lone mountain

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hmmm

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they haven't updated the lates one to their github

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they have two 4.14 releases from Nov

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oh right

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Due to the issues surrounding Github, we will be phasing this out of our release process. All current versions will remain but new releases will no longer be added.

lone mountain
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Hmm, I see. TBH it is good they are committing to release builds/updates as needed.

strange yacht
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Good lord, there's some seriously overpriced stuff in Marketplace-but not as bad as Unity.

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Given there's high-quality free tools for making VNs that are way more flexible than that, 50$ is way too much.

modern perch
#

$50 doesn't seem that bad if you want to use UE4 and it saves you 3+ hours of work..

zealous kelp
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yeah sensible marketplace purchases can save you alot of time, especially during the sales with some items at 97 percent off lol

ebon leaf
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yeah... $50 for somethign that essentially does all the hard work for you making a visual novel isn't at all fair to complain about. If there are other tools that are free, go use them for sure... but if you specifically wantt o make one in UE and you either don't have the skill, desire or time to make the framwork, $50 is a score, especially given the way those things sell on steam and such.

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btw @modern perch , I dunno if anyone responded the other day - I forgot to. I got my payment in december so if oyu haven't already, I'd follow it up with Epic (I hope I am remembering correctly that it was you asking about that haha)

modern perch
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It was me, yeah cheers for that. We didn't get a payout in December :(

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Time to chase people up I guess

ebon leaf
#

they missed a payment of mine back in october... never got a reason why, but they fixed it up in less than a week.

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Which was a big long IMO but still better than "wait til next month" I guess ๐Ÿ˜›

modern perch
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Sounds like they do payouts by hand then :|

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That should really, really be automated

ebon leaf
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lol... are you surprised at all?

modern perch
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Sadly not, but really?

ebon leaf
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lol I dunno. Not much automation at all it seems in the marketplace system. Hopefully 2017 is the year of the robots ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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Lol

proven lily
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Hey @modern perch, can you send a message to Stephanie about this?

modern perch
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Will do

wooden falcon
#

blah, this month is on track to suck worse than December

ebon leaf
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yeah... sales kill the following month ๐Ÿ˜› happens everytime lol (well, all three I've participated in lol)

wooden falcon
#

that'll teach me to not put all my packs on sale when they have one of those

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I was all like "hmmm, but I want to be able to put this one on sale in Jan, and it was already on sale on Cyber Monday...better not put it on the Holiday sale"

ebon leaf
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I think you would get bad sales anyways, as it's more about people having already blown a heap of money, more than having already bought your gear. I dunno though.

wooden falcon
#

pools getting crowded ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

ebon leaf
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lol

zealous ibex
#

Are event sales counted towards your days of sales? (atleast I thought you could only have your asset on sale for something like 60 days or something)

ebon leaf
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Nope. Adam covered that in the sales guideline thread ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

zealous ibex
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sry ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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Nah it's all good - just realised you wouldn't have been able to see that when it was new haha

zealous ibex
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I'm still pretty new ^^

ebon leaf
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Creator's Hub only XD

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so are the sales guidelines tbh ๐Ÿ˜› I wasn't meaning anything by it - just letting you know that there was a thread to reference if you wanted.

zealous ibex
#

Wait

minimum of 2 weeks prior to the sale date
``` But I got to hear 1 week in an email
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Which one is it? ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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I'd say go by the 2 weeks rule lol. Then you'll always be safe.

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It used to be that you could put it on sale as long as you got someone early enough, which was usually about 3-7 days in advance haha

zealous ibex
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Then I'd better start writing an email :p

ebon leaf
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lol yerp

wooden falcon
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it's two weeks, and they're enforcing it now ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

zealous ibex
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I never knew this rule, so sent a rale request and they said 1 week there kappa

shell jacinth
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what's a rale request ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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lol

zealous ibex
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Yeah a rale request, you red that right @shell jacinth ๐Ÿ˜›

flat schooner
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Hey I was making building sounds mp asset and I ask you for some help, here is first Video WIP

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at the same time you can learn some polish words ๐Ÿ˜„

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OMG I am sooooo funny

zealous ibex
#

Probably added a way too long entry @flat schooner ๐Ÿ˜›

quasi breach
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@modern perch @ebon leaf even if they do payouts by hand its better than Slooh. Had them as a client for my company and the payments were handled by the President's 70-ish year old grandmother. She was consistently late. For the millions they made they sure are an archaic company.

zealous ibex
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Lol

limpid pilot
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Hahaha WTF๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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Gangsta grandma xD

quasi breach
#

Did you actually watch his whining @delicate dove ? Its his third video complaining about mean people and Mixamo in the last few days. I couldn't get more than a few minutes into the first one.

delicate dove
#

i actually buy popcorn

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not kidding

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its like a comedy show with some insane conspiracy person

quasi breach
#

That is an impressive popcorn cup for your home.

delicate dove
#

we tend to watch movies

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and truebones XD

quasi breach
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Are you the one who did the Luo's caves btw?

delicate dove
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some say I might, others say I didnt
All i know is, you are the stig

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(yes)

quasi breach
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I don't get the joke about the stig, but nice work. Bought that thing like a year ago for a VR project that I never ended up finishing. Which...is so far true of all things I"ve bought off the Market.

delicate dove
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me neither, was a poor attempt at a joke

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glad you liked the package :)
sad the project didnt pull trough

quasi breach
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Heh, its alright. Always my fault since I'm apparently bad at literally everything still haha.

delicate dove
#

i rather say "im still improving myself" over "i am bad at something"

quasi breach
#

I'm still improving myself in everything from being bad. ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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oh, @honest quail truebones considers you a terrorist thief

quasi breach
#

Do they really say TERRORIST thief?

delicate dove
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hehe good point @quasi breach

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yes hehe

quasi breach
#

That is some epic drama llama right there.

delicate dove
#

i sometimes think its actually really good acting

quasi breach
#

That would be nice, but considering the likes of indie groups such as Digital Homicide, there are a damn lot of people that don't know proper business etiquette.

delicate dove
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he is still ranting about antidamage, hesus christ

wicked pebble
delicate dove
#

it was about the marketplace though, minus my last (now deleted) post

wicked pebble
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Oh, is it? Didn't know o-o

#

truebones or w/e is related to mp?

delicate dove
#

yea, he was basically saying a whole bunch of us where terrorists, thiefs, drug dealers.

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focussing at ue4 marketplace sellers

wooden falcon
#

has anti even posted here in recent history?

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been awhile since I've seen him

delicate dove
#

last time was when he and me had a falling out i think, at least that was the last time we spoke

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and that was months ago

quaint cedar
#

Second time I read truebones today

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Can we all forget about that person?

delicate dove
#

but its comedy gold hehe

quaint cedar
#

Not if you have to moderate the forums with him being in or trying to get in

delicate dove
#

yea, he tried in the video even

quaint cedar
#

Na, it's something else. As you know, first posts are moderated :P

#

Haven't checked recently, how long is the wait time on response for fresh submissions?

lone mountain
#

Interesting guy

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I am surprised he's not on here

#

Actually, for some off reason, I am pretty sure he must be

modern perch
#

I don't think he is, and if he were, he wouldn't last long

gaunt flicker
#

I am him

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Thats why you never see us both at the same time

zealous ibex
#

lol @delicate dove same, tho I don't get popcorn, I just enjoy laughing at his rants ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
#

oh new trubones? Sweeeeeet. As long as you have an adblocker installed so he doesn't get coin it's fine ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
#

๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
#

oh god its a 42 minute one... I'm not sure I'm that interested haha

ebon leaf
#

hey... You guys that trubones talk about apparently get paid hush money? How can I get in on that deal ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
#

ikr

modern perch
#

all of his videos are 40 minutes plus, generally

delicate dove
#

i think if he was in this chat, he'd be recording us already

#

if he find a random website where the words true and bones are next to eachother he already record it and rants about mixamo conspiracies for about an hour

ebon leaf
#

@modern perch you say that... but if I remember correctly, you were one of the lie-fuelled conspirators so I don't think I can trust you, and seeing as YouTube corroborates your story, that also means they are in on it! 0.o

modern perch
#

I'm also apparently a woman and work for Epic

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

ebon leaf
#

well... amber"she"e makes that clear enough

delicate dove
#

i had a male ant as a hero in an lbp story named Amber, and everyone was "but isnt amber a womans name"

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hehe

ebon leaf
#

lol

zealous ibex
#

@delicate dove *you

#

You are like a star in one of his rant vids ;P

#

@modern perch yeah lol like mod role is epic staff ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
#

he made another one about me, but it was borderline doxxing, so i asked YT to take it down and they did

zealous ibex
#

Aww I didn't watch it yet ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
#

HA! More proof that YouTube are involved!

#

I'm starting to see triangles everywhere 0.o lol

strange yacht
#

#illuminaticonfirmed

wooden falcon
#

how far does the rabbit hole go?

wooden falcon
#

lol, TrueBones references Mr.Necturus....

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so how does it feel to "represent Unreal" @delicate dove ?

delicate dove
#

not the first time :p

#

feels awesome though to be an official crack dealing representative

wooden falcon
#

crime ring is how he said it, I think ๐Ÿ˜‰

delicate dove
#

hehe

wooden falcon
#

wow, this guy is wacko

#

does this guy realize that not everyone who posts on the forums is from Epic or represents Epic?

delicate dove
#

you should see the one about one of the unity marketplace people

#

he is making discusting sexual remarks about her

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well.. dont watchit actually, its beyond funny cringy

#

its just blatent fubar

wooden falcon
#

and he thinks you're using the royal "we" in your post or something

delicate dove
#

he also didnt see the original thread

#

we gave the guy proper advice, polite even

#

all he did was rage at us

wooden falcon
#

yah, I remember that post

#

mr.nec was being irrational

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which at the time reminded me of Truebones...

delicate dove
#

hehe

proven lily
#

Hey everyone! We are aware of the Truebones situation. We can't and won't try to tell anyone what to do in this regard, but we do advise simply leaving him be. Engaging him only encourages his behavior.

zealous ibex
#

wow I just realized I have overriden my pack's logo by a microsoft paint crop I made of it ๐Ÿคฆ

wooden falcon
#

how do I get in on this "chrime syndicate/ring"? It sounds fun

#

ok, this pack is on sale again, and is compatible only up to 4.10...

#

all he has to do is click the freaking check box!

#

I doubt it has anything that needs to be updated for 4.13

modern perch
#

I don't think you should be allowed to put things on sale if they're not up to date with engine versions

heady moth
#

I don't think it should still be listed, there's a clear one month rule

#

I'm sure any of us would get a mail for being late, but 4 engine versions?

lone mountain
#

To the Hangman...

proven lily
#

Hey everyone, in these cases please send us a message on marketplace-support@unrealengine.com so we are aware and can take appropriate actions to get the engine version updated or take other action as necessary.

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I'll get this one taken care of though. Thanks for bringing it up, @wooden falcon!

wooden falcon
#

np ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

buoyant cradle
#

Great, now I also watched this video about truebonez, can we delete it, so other people don't get cancer like me for watching this crap? ๐Ÿ˜„

wooden falcon
#

it really is sort of disturbing

zealous ibex
#

Just out of curiosity, anyone know who owns this twitter handle? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ https://twitter.com/UEMarketplace

The latest Tweets from UE4 Marketplace (@UEMarketplace). Unofficial Twitter account to help promote Marketplace seller content. Tweet marketplace-relevant content to us, or use #UEMarketplace for retweets. United States

ebon leaf
#

I believe @jovial thunder and @rare lynx

jovial thunder
#

@zealous ibex ๐Ÿ–

zealous ibex
#

Well to any of you, ty for da retweet โค

jovial thunder
#

๐Ÿ‘

zealous ibex
#

wow you are emoji addicted ๐Ÿ˜›

#

Even more so than me ^^

ebon leaf
#

Bonus follower ๐Ÿ˜› I knew being helpful would pay off eventually XD

zealous ibex
#

I went over the the twitter handles following ๐Ÿ˜›

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Followed all of them, I'm supprised how many I didn't follow

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@jovial thunder You man see that I followed you again, I accidentally unfollowed when following everyone ^^

ebon leaf
#

aww I'm not special ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
#

You are, You are

#

Most dino's don't smoke you know, your special as you do kappaross

ebon leaf
#

haha

silver moat
#

๐Ÿšธ

#

I'm getting some random emails from users these days.

#

Like they say something is wrong and when I ask for more information they disappear.

ebon leaf
#

In my experience that usually means they resolved it themself lol

shell jacinth
#

or that they were user errors instead of your content pack's errors

silver moat
#

It's good to see the last package isn't pirated yet.

#

Not sure if marketplace is preventing it or Mr.Pirates didn't like to spend $150 on it lol.

delicate dove
#

more expensive packs often take longer to pirate, as they throw money together and buy it

#

but tbh, im done checking if stuff is pirated, it just gets annoying

zealous ibex
#

What is the best way to check for pirated copies? (so you can DMCA them)

delicate dove
#

not allowed to mention that publically hehe

#

but google helps

zealous ibex
#

Hm

#

Hm

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I dont wanna crack shit, I'm just scared someone bought my asset for like 10 bucks during the sale and put it online ๐Ÿ˜›

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I dont wanna crack shit, I'm just scared someone bought my asset for like 10 bucks during the sale and put it online ๐Ÿ˜›

#

I dont wanna crack shit, I'm just scared someone bought my asset for like 10 bucks during the sale and put it online ๐Ÿ˜›

#

woooooooow discord

#

tripple send bug?

ebon leaf
#

?? I'm not getting it.

#

?? I'm not getting it.

#

?? I'm not getting it.

zealous ibex
#

๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
#

XD

zealous ibex
#

Anyhow, does anyone know what time GMT your sales reports get updated? (aka which time I can be dissapointed that I had no sales again :P)

ebon leaf
#

I think it updates in roughly 4 hours. Not sure though

zealous ibex
#

ty, it's always like when does it update as I don't live in the US ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
#

same. That's why I'm not sure when it happens ๐Ÿ˜› I have just noticed it somewhere around there I think

glad ice
#

question, is this weeks payout for november sales or decemebers sales? i forget.

ebon leaf
#

This one will be for november sales.

glad ice
#

thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

ebon leaf
#

No worries ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

silver moat
#

@zealous ibex Just add a "Free Download" to your package name and google it.

#

You will see if your package is pirated or not.

zealous ibex
#

Tried that

#

Think it hasn't been cracked yet (yay)

silver moat
#

Crack?

#

There is no lock to crack it. ๐Ÿ˜›

#

In my experience if you sell something on gumroad it gets pirated way faster.

#

That's why I didn't release Affordable Landscapes 2 on gumroad.

#

And that's why it's still not pirated.

ebon leaf
#

@zealous ibex i will crack ur asset mang ๐Ÿ‘Œ

strange yacht
#

I think the best anti-piracy measure I've seen was for Video Game Tycoon.

#

The creater created a torrent of his own game with one small difference:

#

The game at some point becomes impossible to progress with due to piracy

#

It was actually well-recieved as it showed the damage that piracy can actually cause in a way that makes sense for the game.

delicate dove
#

you mean gamedev tycoon, and yea that was hilarious

#

especially when pirates began asking on the forum how to counter the piracy

sick spear
#

hello, I dont wanna work, I just wanna make a million trillion dollars from selling 1 texture on the Unreal market place

scarlet wave
#

your plan won't work, there is not a million trillion dollars in the world

ebon leaf
#

to be fair, s/he did say s/he wanted to MAKE that money, not acquire it ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
#

lol

tall helm
#

yaay, cyber monday sale payouts ๐Ÿ˜„

zealous ibex
#

wow a 45 day payout term is a long time ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

tall helm
#

aye

zealous ibex
#

Means I'll get my first payout sometime next month ^^

tall helm
#

not so bad since it's monthly

zealous ibex
#

Yeah but for your first payout, there is a wait ๐Ÿ˜›

sick spear
#

so then I can go around saying ITS UNREAL how much money i've made in the UNREAL store ๐Ÿ˜„

tall helm
#

yeah

sick spear
#

sorry I set you guys up for the pun.

#

I gotta get this level building kit, right out the door! ๐Ÿ˜„

#

many people building Sci Fi games?>

zealous ibex
#

Quite some I think, atleast seeing how many scifi prop packs there are on the MP

wooden falcon
#

"You're in a tank, you've got a bunch of sharks and wolves...barking and swimming around you" - Truebones, describing the Marketplace

#

lol

#

Somebody needs to hook this guy up with a seat in the Trump administration

sick spear
#

good I wanna eat those sharks

zealous ibex
#

wait truebones said something about the marketplace

#

I really need to watch his video, just delaying watching it over and over again in favor of actually working on my asset

wooden falcon
#

you're better off that way ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

#

it's sad witnessing mental derangement

zealous ibex
#

If someone wants an equip system, that is like armor equip right?

wooden falcon
#

hmm, what sort of game?

zealous ibex
#

It's an inventory system

#

And that is now the no.1 requested feature

wooden falcon
#

well, depending on the game, the inv system could be vastly different

zealous ibex
#

Just not sure what they really mean by it ๐Ÿ˜›

wooden falcon
#

in a fps, you might just have weapons mods

zealous ibex
#

Sigh how are they thinking I can make this generic? ๐Ÿ˜›

wooden falcon
#

lol

#

it amazes me that someone pays < $100 and expects one on one development

#

I think feedback is great, but some people seem to think the developer should cater to them

zealous ibex
#

๐Ÿ˜›

#

My asset is 20 bucks / 10 on sale ๐Ÿ˜› But I'm feeling generous

wooden falcon
#

blueprints look like more trouble than they're worth for a Marketplace pack developer

#

omg, lol: "utilizing the metaphor of a city with a drug dealer on every corner, but poor Mr. Necturus doesn't sell drugs, he sells apples and oranges to feed his family" the drug dealers in that "metaphor" are all other marketplace developers

sleek egret
#

Who's selling drugs?

#

Don't sell drugs on the Marketplace

wooden falcon
#

there goes my next pack idea

sleek egret
#

I'm 51% sure we have something in the EULA about that

zealous ibex
#

51% sure, that's pretty exact @sleek egret

sleek egret
#

That's definitely not my non-committal percentage ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
#

ue4 eula or marketplace eula? You just made me curious ๐Ÿ˜›

sleek egret
#

Marketplace? Either way, don't sell drugs on the internet.

delicate dove
#

only buy

#

<_<

zealous ibex
#

Cant find anything

wooden falcon
#

Necro's Totally Not Drugs Pack (51% sure)

zealous ibex
#

But I have crappy search habits :p

ebon leaf
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I think you are telling us to go out and sell drugs on the street @sleek egret ? ๐Ÿ˜›

sleek egret
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Don't do the thing.

ebon leaf
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lol... very high level of comittment there ๐Ÿ˜›

proven lily
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Please don't make us have to update our policy to specifically include "no drugs" ;_;

wooden falcon
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what about legal drugs? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

ebon leaf
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hey... as long as those blueprint noodles don't cross and the materials are PBR, I don't see why we can't sell drugs on the marketplace ๐Ÿ˜›

wooden falcon
zealous ibex
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@proven lily LMAO

ebon leaf
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nah, Quake 1 BSP was still more versatile :p

wooden falcon
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lol

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except for the hours of compiling

ebon leaf
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to be fair, if you were doing that compiling on a PC these days it probably wouldn't be that bad ๐Ÿ˜›

wooden falcon
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probably not

ebon leaf
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but yeah... I remember leaving a quake 3 arena level of mine compiling for 34 hours straight... only to realise I had put one light in the wrong place -.- lol

wooden falcon
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haha

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yah, Unreal was a revelation for me, with the quick compile times

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but the Visual Basic Unrealed made up for it by taking around 5 minutes to start for me ๐Ÿ˜‰

ebon leaf
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haha

wooden falcon
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still my all time favorite editor

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cause someone must have been high :/

ebon leaf
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lol

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those materials could do with a bit of work. But $5 is nuts lol

wooden falcon
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those edges are so sharp you could cut yourself

ebon leaf
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that's for when you are coming down I guess ๐Ÿ˜›

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I'm guessing someone forgot a link?

zealous ibex
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Wait now your all loving these boxes?

wooden falcon
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I love that there's a message that the shots were photoshopped

ebon leaf
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wait no... nvm. Says in the description "The asset also contain 5 other crates (240 to 768 tris - 1k textures) as a free sample."... how is it a free sample when it's included in a pack you pay for....

zealous ibex
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A month ago or something, you where all hating this set of crates ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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@zealous ibex I just said $5 is stupid low ๐Ÿ˜› that's all.

wooden falcon
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I dunno what you're talking about, they're the best ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

bright owl
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Quick question about marketplace, its main aim is to sell game development stuff to users of the ue4 engine, correct? not to sell software to end users?

ebon leaf
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not neccesarily just gamedev stuff

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archviz stuff too

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anything you would use ue4 for

delicate dove
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only to users of ue4 engine yes, so not i.e. sell quixel suite etc on it

flint snow
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first plugin, now time to do an editor plugin ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

zealous ibex
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Cool ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

plush pond
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What?

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Nooo

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I gotta submit mine really soon

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๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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I was trying to remember who it was talking about a replay system lol.

flint snow
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ it is something i've been working on for awhile over a year, but only since 4.13 has the internal replay system has gotten really reliable from my testing. (probably from paragon fixes ๐Ÿ˜„ ) Then i decided to turn it into a plugin finally and release it.

plush pond
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Yeah, mine is really different than yours since mine doesn't use demorec

golden musk
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just a question, if the replay system is implemented, what does the plugin add. just curious

plush pond
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mine isn't automatic - more control, could be extended to a gameplay element, for example a puzzle game or a racing game ghost car

golden musk
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ooh. okay

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i see the difference

flint snow
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yeah, mine used the replaystreamers, so it captures it all very much the same as paragon replays. I see yours can be actor specific for gameplay which makes it different in use ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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There is a memorystreamer in the engine that can be used for specific actors to "replay" a kill shot in game. Its something on my roadmap as an option or separate thing or something.

little mantle
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Wish : SteamVR_ExternalCamera support plugin

elfin plinth
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@plush pond it should be easy to setup though as otherwise there's not much value in it

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system like that basically just stores snapshots of the transforms and then plays them back by lerping between the snapshots

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although if you do store animations properly then it's a whole another deal

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was just thinking of the racing game thing (which is more trivial to implement)

fallow plinth
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Anyone from the staff is on?

ebon leaf
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P:retty sure it's the wee hours of the morning for them so probably not ๐Ÿ˜›

fallow plinth
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yeah I imagined

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:)

modern perch
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Racing games use deterministic physics and store the controller inputs.

elfin plinth
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ah, we were talking about the replay system only ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

modern perch
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Well, someone mentioned racing games - that's how they do it! Hehe

elfin plinth
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yeah, that's ideal case anyway ๐Ÿ˜„

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wish all racing games did that

shell jacinth
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@modern perch: talking about racing games? do you mean the "ghost" car or what?

modern perch
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Any kind of replay system, yeah

elfin plinth
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I'd just store the snapshots in racing game tbh

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it's accurate enough

modern perch
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Ghost car is a good example, bit replay AI too since AI will use simulated inputs, more or less

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You get weird results using snapshots

elfin plinth
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like?

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oh you mean like in corners

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yeah, I get what you mean

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you could do some math to fix that though

modern perch
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Best case vehicle movement doesn't feel right, worst case things like collisions and spinning out can go pretty wrong

elfin plinth
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to make them follow a spline shape for example

modern perch
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If you have a replay with multiple vehicles, rather than strictly a ghost car, snapshots won't really work at all

elfin plinth
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why?

modern perch
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They won't capture physical interaction between vehicles

elfin plinth
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you could store the snapshots more often to help with it

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I think that's what codemasters games do

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they write a HUGE file on disk while you play it

modern perch
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You'd need absurd snapshot resolution to get.it to behave correctly

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Honestly, it's just not a great solution to the problem

elfin plinth
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yeah, I can't really comment on that yet, but I'll sure try it myself at some point

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doing the physics sim again isn't fool-proof either but I guess one could combine two

modern perch
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It's okayish for a single ghost car, and the less simulationy the better

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Deterministic physics and stored inputs results in fairly lightweight replay files and it is more or less foolproof

elfin plinth
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if you could guarantee the physics sim is fully deterministic and same with your data, then it should work fine

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but if you do sim grade physics, I'm pretty sure you'd have to have some failsafes around in case players computers don't keep up and you need do things less optimal way, breaking the determinism

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hybrid solution would correct those anyway, like if you stored snapshots (with physics sim values) but not as often

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I might try that if the snapshot route isn't good enough

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and, now I'm doing offtopic in #fab, today is not a good day ๐Ÿ˜„

modern perch
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AI in heavier Sims isn't as difficult as you think to be fair. You can store different input streams from players of differing ability, and defer only to a looser AI in special cases (overtaking, collisions etc). Most of them won't even bother with overtaking AI which is why games like Forza have such seemingly aggressive opponents.

elfin plinth
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AI?

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I don't know how AI got into this? ๐Ÿ˜„

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but I do know that physics engines has that fail safe to protect from deadlocks and my own physics sims have them too

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while it's unlikely that you have to use them, it's possible

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unless you dev on a specific platform like ps4 etc where you can guarantee the hw stays somewhat the same

plush pond
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@elfin plinth yeah I made it as easy to use as possible, and you can do animation in 2 different ways; Either record every single bone transform (Wich is not very good if you're saving the replays, 10 secs of 2 ue4 mannequins at 20FPS took 7mb) or duplicate the anim BPs and make them fit for the replayed actors. Here is the planned wip description for the marketplace asset https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HsBkQtfz7aisEXrXAgtIR5QdZu9TsqrMYzzErWmH4z0

Google Docs

Description Video: X With this versatile blueprint replay implementation, you can easily create all kinds of replays for your game. For example, in a racing game, you could have 3 different replays: after you crash, after finishing the race and even a high score ghost car, when you race! Contro...

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ‘ awesome featurelist

plush pond
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Thanks!

zealous ibex
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"If it works on you, please let me know!" on should be for @plush pond ๐Ÿ˜‰

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And if you say platforms intended, mobile, console, pc, you should probably consider testing atleast mobile ๐Ÿ˜‰

elfin plinth
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@plush pond nice ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

plush pond
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Console is the only one that I can't test

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well I have ps3 ๐Ÿ˜„

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thats all

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and ps2

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But I'll test it on mac, windows and android

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ‘ that's why I understood console

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You need all special devstuff etc

plush pond
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but intended platforms doesn't mean it will work right? ๐Ÿ˜„

ebon leaf
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Intended =/= tested

zealous ibex
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True

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But you should if possible have it tested, or someone will buy it thinking, oh this is intended for mobile

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And the UI ends up not scaling or something

ebon leaf
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definitely agree with that

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And I wouldn't list it as a supported platform unless you can test it

zealous ibex
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What about consoles tho?

plush pond
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supported != intended

ebon leaf
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correct @plush pond

zealous ibex
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If you test it compatible with a console controller on windows, would that be enough as it should work?

ebon leaf
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I would never list a pack of mine as suppoted for console... but I might list it as intended

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But without being able to test and trouble shoot myself with a console, then I don't understand how I'm supposed to be able to even begin supporting it lol

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This is just my feelings/policy... no idea what the official word is

zealous ibex
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I never bough a console ๐Ÿ˜›

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#pc4life

ebon leaf
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they are good for some exclusives ๐Ÿ˜› but I don't have one atm either lol

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that new mario game looks sick though

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not paying the price for the switch though ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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The easy approach to console exclusives: Just don't game ^^

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But we are going off topic ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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lol yeah... don't wnt the popo jumping in here ๐Ÿ˜›

plush pond
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I also made a clever name for it; Advanced Replay Creator, in short A.R.C.

zealous ibex
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Nice

oak fiber
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so is Unreal goign to host a stream that is AFK all day? or?

delicate dove
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hmm maybe @white osprey can look into multihosting or so. show 4 at the same time and let viewer pick whichever might be more interesting.

plucky helm
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can you report conent packs that cause issues in some way? i bought a content pack that makes it so i cant cook my game. If i remove the pack it cooks fine. Ive had issues witht hese pack authors not bothering to respond to me. if i dont get a response just curious what my options are.

delicate dove
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if they dont respond, email the marketplace peeps

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hmm their email should be pined.. /me looks @ebon leaf & @sleek egret

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whoever can do that

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then they will probably tell the creator to look at their project and fix it

ebon leaf
delicate dove
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whoo

plucky helm
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Thanks I will give them a few days.

lone mountain
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@oak fiber who is AFK?

oak fiber
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you are like 5 hours behind. cheers.

zealous ibex
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@plucky helm How are you contacting them? Be sure to use the support email and not the comment section, as sometimes it's easy to miss something in the comment section ๐Ÿ˜‰

ebon leaf
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@plucky helm how long has it been since you contacted the seller?

plucky helm
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One has been 2 weeks. I emailed him and commented. The other that is causing the compile error responded this morning and apparently has this issue with a few of his packs

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the one that has been 2 weeks isnt critical and likely stuck with what it is but the cooking one is critical and at least that guy got back to me today.

tall helm
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@sleek egret I have a question! A marketplace asset I helped out on was developed on 4.11, but 4.14 was the latest version at the time of submission/release. We were thinking it should be possible to offer versions of the asset for 4.11-4.13 as well... how would that work? Do we submit a separate 4.11 version (which is compatible with 4.11-4.13), or is there a different process for it?

ebon leaf
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That's what I've done in the passed with that scenario

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well no, sorry, just re-read

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I submitted multiple files

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in one submission

delicate dove
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@tall helm thats what I had to do after a mess-up with the cavepacks. send older versions and make sure to iterate in the email they should not overwrite the newer ones.

tall helm
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yeah that's what I have for my packs too, but asking how it is with newly released packs and adding compatibility for earlier UE versions

flat schooner
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HERE IS MY FACE!!!

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But not the face matters here ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

wooden falcon
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looks cold over there

flat schooner
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it was chilly ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

delicate dove
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are any of the animation sellers here?

oak thistle
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@flat schooner Your work looks so much more interesting than mine.. ๐Ÿ˜‰

flat schooner
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@oak thistle but it cost me a lot to move outside and it is overrated, FPS is high and stable, graphics is cool but gameplay sucks when u don't have a lot of gold and there are noobs everywhere

west tide
delicate dove
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neat man

zealous ibex
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Cool

sleek egret
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@tall helm Basically you'll give use the 4.11 version and let us know it works through 4.13 and just send us the 4.14 version along with it. We'll list both.

tall helm
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ok, thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ that's what I figured. I'll pass it on to my client!

elfin plinth
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@west tide if you can make that generate msdf + sdf from the SVG, I'd buy it, now just SVG to texture conversion has zero value for me even if it's in engine

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that app has crappy SVG importer and it would be superb to have the generator in engine

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there is a (grayscale) SDF in engine but it's only to generate the bitmap from font file

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with DF images, we can get crisp UI images even the texture sizes stay minimal

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which is my main interest on it but I could see it useful on some game props too if you need sharp details that don't eat all your GPU ram

white osprey
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@delicate dove Twitch hosting features are driving me crazy. I wish I could do a multi-host like that and also have "host override" so it would automatically kick off low-priority streamers. Snake Pass' or Proletariat's streams, for examples, should be hosted over basic content (or offered as an option via a multi-host)

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It's limited in many ways

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So if you are in a host list and start streaming first, it doesn't matter if you are the bottom of the list, you will still overtake anyone who comes later

delicate dove
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hmm maybe write a tool to refresh every hour or so?
shouldnt be too hard right?

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at least, im saying that from a non-coder/scripter pov

gaunt flicker
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@delicate dove @white osprey Can definitely write a script to manage it, but Twitch also rate limits your hosting commands

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Although I'm sure UnrealEngine can get around that

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Normal people I think can only do 2 hosting commands an hour?

ebon leaf
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I think three, because whenever I manually switch hosting it says two remaining

gaunt flicker
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Aye

delicate dove
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well, there you go. hehe

manic jasper
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We now have a discord channel for all our customers and supporters to join in and be a part of our community. https://discord.gg/WeGDkuu

zealous ibex
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@white osprey wait the ue4 account autohosts? ๐Ÿ˜›

west tide
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@elfin plinth as what kind of asset would the sdf be saved?

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Would you want a new font for every imported svg?

elfin plinth
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@west tide just new texture, with DF in it

west tide
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And how would you use that in the UI?

elfin plinth
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don't mind the issues with the setup, basically you'd get 64x64 DF into 16kb

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shader to "decode" it simple too

west tide
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Sweet, didn't know that ๐Ÿ˜Š

elfin plinth
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you can then just put UI material on UMG to display that

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unreal uses similar tech for fons

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but it's single channel

delicate dove
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@west tide check graphics channel for a sec when you haz time

west tide
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@elfin plinth thx I will look into it, but no promises. That msdfgen project uses a lot of code that I would need to integrate.

elfin plinth
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if you do, drop me a note if you need betatester or additional info ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

white osprey
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@zealous ibex Yeah, I've been adding #ue4 streamers to it

zealous ibex
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You added me too kappa? But cool

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Never knew autostreaming was a thing

white osprey
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@gaunt flicker If you're volunteering, then go for it

gaunt flicker
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#OnlyIfPaid

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Just agreeing that it is possible

zealous ibex
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#OnlyIfICanHave1BillionYearsToCodeTheShit

white osprey
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Also, here's a script idea for you: a scraper that checks out new public trademarks made by developers so you can leak titles before anyone has heard of them

zealous ibex
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LMAO

white osprey
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Then game devs will have to file multiple TMs just to throw off people watching the bot's output

gaunt flicker
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Pretty sure thats already a thing

white osprey
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awww

rose trench
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Lol thats funny

white osprey
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Of course that's a thing already

gaunt flicker
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Thats how people knew Alphabet was a thing before Google announced it

zealous ibex
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LMAO

flat schooner
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Hey @white osprey is Dave from Epic here?

sleek egret
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Dave Allison?

flat schooner
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I don't know his last name

sleek egret
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Marketplace staff or somewhere else in Epic?

flat schooner
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yes, marketplace staff

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He reply to my mail, but it wasn't clear to me

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I was wondering if he is here, so I could ask some aditional questions

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but no rush I already send reply email

sleek egret
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He's not here in discord but he's sitting across from me right now. If it's urgent I can give him a heads up

jovial thunder
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@sleek egret I have old comments on some of my marketplace packs that aren't inappropriate/spam, but simply irrelevant now. I'd rather have comments that matter be seen. Is there anything I can do about those irrelevant comments?

shy bloom
#

Why they're not answering to support request emails ? I sent an email from 13-Jan but there is no response, I got just a received message!

lone mountain
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Not even one real business day elapsed?

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Not sure if they worked on MLK

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But you sent something on a Friday, expecting a response when?

shy bloom
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Monday ๐Ÿ˜„

oak fiber
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MLK day is a federal holiday in the US.

jovial thunder
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@shy bloom Don't always expect a reply even the next business day. They can take several days to respond in many cases

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Anyone else receive a refund yesterday? I have a refund on one of the products I sold for a discounted price during the event sale, but was never contacted about it. Wondering if fraudulent purchases occured (Refunded on 1/16/2017)

ebon leaf
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None here. Last fraudulent purchase refund that happened for me I got an email about it lol

jovial thunder
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Alright, I'll get in contact with the marketplace team then :p

rare lynx
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@jovial thunder emails regarding fraudulent purchases usually go out a day after the refund shows on your account. You'll likely get something today or tomorrow.

jovial thunder
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We'll see ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

rare lynx
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It wouldn't hurt to get in contact with them though. ๐Ÿ˜›

sleek egret
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@jovial thunder Flag them, I'll be able to remove them

jovial thunder
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@sleek egret Alright, thanks. Just wanted to make sure they could be removed for that reason ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

novel badger
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Big props to @empty urchin for resolving my issue

thorny zenith
sly wyvern
#

Extended Facebook Online Subsystem now available for all platforms! ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ’ช

More info: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?113521-Extended-Facebook-Online-Subsystem&p=650834&viewfull=1#post650834

jovial thunder
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@thorny zenith I was very strongly thinking about making a cover system, but had no animations to provide with it ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

ebon leaf
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same here haha ๐Ÿ˜› animation is such an annoying limitation haha

jovial thunder
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@sleek egret Are self-employed sellers on the marketplace (Located in the United States) sent 1099 forms for tax purposes?

sleek egret
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Yep

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You should get it in the mail

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If you don't get it by February let me know

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But they should go out by the deadline on the 31st

jovial thunder
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Ok. I need to change my tax information, do I just email the support email? Or is there a specific domain for handling such a thing?

gaunt flicker
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@sleek egret I sent a ticket to change my seller info (my address) but no response. Was it lost forever?

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I bet some other guy is getting my tax info

sleek egret
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You can change it from the portal I have have to unlock it for you

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Allar, let me check what e-mail did you send it under?

gaunt flicker
sleek egret
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Okay cool let me check that for you
@jovial thunder You're unlocked now

jovial thunder
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@sleek egret Thanks! Will it re-lock once I submit?

sleek egret
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Yep

jovial thunder
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Great!

gaunt flicker
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I had to drive 30 minutes today to pick up my Epic winter swag due to wrong address on file xD

zealous ibex
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@sleek egret is the deadline for submitting a sale request 2 weeks before inclusive or exclusive? (so the day sent + 2 weeks and then the day after or the day sent+2weeks)

sleek egret
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@gaunt flicker I do not see your ticket, send it in again and cc me so I can find out where it's going

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@zealous ibex Day sent + 2

zealous ibex
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Pfhew

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THat means I can still submit my request for 1st of feb tomorrow right?