fab

[unreal stratus]

I miss the old Marketplace

https://www.fab.com/listings/fbaf6d81-561e-47d2-ba35-18a1fb9e9f4d

[undone valve]

Bruh what is that

[vernal frigate]

Fab does not send an email to my inbox. It is also not in my junk folder.

[trail heron]

crowdfunding in your asset store 😄

[undone valve]

Servers are alright: https://status.epicgames.com/

[undone valve]

hahaha 😄 I wonder if someone actually purchased that

[trail heron]

could also be (tax) fraud someone buying that from a corporate account, feeding it into someone's personal account, writing it off as business expenses.

with fabs 0% commission/100%rev share it would be one of the cheapest possible ways to transfer funds in that manner.

[undone valve]

true

[tight sigil]

anyone ever found this mysterious "Fab UE Plugin" somewhere, that they mention here? I could really do without "epic games launcher" (especially being on Linux, but either way really =)

[undone valve]

Not released yet

[trail heron]

its not out yet

[tight sigil]

ack =)

[potent depot]

Mmm, just bought something in FAB, and while it show ups in the Vault, when adding to a project the progress bar just shows a second and then nothing is downloaded or added.
Beyond frustration tbh.

[drowsy plaza]

A beggar, epic should make a rule that assets need to be for actual use

[drowsy plaza]

Maybe fully close the launcher and retry but for sure report that bug to fab support. It’s likely gonna take a few weeks for them to iron out all of the bugs that appeared

[sleek nymph]

Is the Fab plugin going to support MetaHumans? Right now, if you install UE fresh it does not include the Bridge plugin so there's no way to import MetaHumans unless you have an old copy of the Bridge plugin.

as far as I can tell, the only recourse is to download the UE source from github and compile it, since the source still includes Bridge.

[drowsy plaza]

Probably, it will likely come within the next 2-4 weeks.

[sleek nymph]

That's incredibly short-sighted of them.. smh

[tame compass]

fab sent me this

😭😭

[celest escarp]

Bridge desktop app

[sleek nymph]

The page to download it was replaced with the Fab redirect

Note: I still have the bridge plugin. I am just trying to find answers for people who keep asking about it in our UE related discord.

It was removed from the vault, too, so you can't find it searching for Bridge there either.

[drowsy plaza]

I just hope the fab plugin for UE is fast and not choppy. The alpha plugin for UEFN was very choppy

[pliant forum]

I can't imagine how the FAB team isn't able to hastily create functional systems for this new marketplace, when individual users create the features in sub 24h.
Someone has already created a decent looking Wishlist system https://github.com/Crezetique/WishlistForFab

[potent depot]

What I don't get is this kind of hard launching with clearly no proper QA, scaling or bug testing internally

[drowsy plaza]

discounts will likely be announced/allowed next month

[potent depot]

Why not to keep Marketplaces in parallel for a month?

Until ironing all the bugs and smoothing frustration

[uneven dome]

Nice, hoping for a firefox one too

[drowsy plaza]

same reason modders can add stuff in 24 hours while it takes a game studio longer, modifying an existing code base is much faster and easier than building a robust tool designed with everything else in mind.

[uneven dome]

The license that can do that is called CC-BY-NC. NC standing for non-commercial. But it doesn't seem fab supports that since it's for commercial devs. If your product is a 3d model you can put it on sketchfab with CC-BY-NC license for free, then link it on your fab page I guess.

for non-model products too you can just release them anywhere you want, say on your personal website or blog, with CC-BY-NC license, and then link that in your fab page.

[tired ocean]

Hi everyone, it seems like 17000 megascan assets are ported to Fab and will be available to download after quixel store closes down. Is this correct? Do I need to download them from quixel or fab before the end of the year?

[sleek nymph]

You have it correct

They said generically "over 17000"

[tame compass]

thats a lot

[tired ocean]

Nice. So all I need to do is figure out what the 2k difference is and download those from quixel?

[sleek nymph]

If you dig into it, about 1000 of them were either too similar to other assets or too low quality. Fab also has 10 asset packs from quixel that are not in MegaScans.

[tired ocean]

Based on thier clear as mud communication, no such list exists haha

[tired ocean]

Ah interesting. Do you have a link or have you done your own comparing?

[sleek nymph]

Just things that were said in the FAQs or by Frak on the forums

[tired ocean]

I might spend some time making a web scraper that gets a list from both sites and compares them to get the difference

Even if they are similar they are still different, and when it comes to assets then it's always useful to have options

[sleek nymph]

*Flak, not frak, my bad
https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/fab-list-of-known-issues-at-launch/2080070

[tired ocean]

"Low quality" doesn't matter when it's a rock taking up 1 pixel in a rendered image

[drowsy plaza]

this is an asset flippers wet dream, now steam can have more asset flips more often

[tired ocean]

Haha

Yeah they have basically created a gaping hole in the market for a premium, curated marketplace

[tribal niche]

How the heck did they not add a wishlist feature to FAB?

[sleek nymph]

I also think removing the Samples section from the launcher was a bad move.

[sleek nymph]

confirming

[tired ocean]

Oh wow

So basically there's no unreal license anymore?

That's crazy

Very cool

I'm.just worried they might hit delete

But seems like they won't?

[drowsy plaza]

It’s just on fab now under the education and learning category

[worldly flower]

Any News of how to fix installation Error MD-0011-0 when trying to install a Plugin?

[tawny hinge]

they most likely could... no idea what drove their decision to not do it

after all it's most likely one property on the user data or a separate table/db if you wish

[spark dove]

I contacted Epic support for the "MD-0011-0" and they said it's typically an issue with their backend and they will have a specalist email me in a few hours

[jaunty dagger]

Some assets creators had that problem. They pushed versions to FAB, and the launcher choose one at random for all engine versions.

[undone valve]

I sent the Trello board to the Fab team now. I will add some of your suggestions soon that are still missing. If you have any more suggestions, then ping me 😄

https://trello.com/b/wQTxckhe

[undone oxide]

So, I tried reporting two different assets that depict characters from famous IPs, but I guess because it's copyright infringement rather than any other rule breaking both tickets got closed as "after thorough investigation, no rules were broken".
One of the models even openly admits to being ripped straight from a game.
Maybe all that slop will stay until the individual rights owning companies gets aware of it and submits infringement claims, feels messy to me.

[sleek nymph]

I didn't see anything about MetaHumans on there. If we can't access them via fab, could they at least post the quixel bridge plugin for download?

[arctic plover]

I added a couple suggestions on the feedback section in the Epic for Indies discord group

One was better organization of categories in launcher (and moving a lot of the new categories to sub categories)

The other was fixing launcher so it understands which assets are migrated so that you don't have to reinstall all plugins and content in order to get updates (right now it will happily let you install duplicate fab content and plugins alongside the marketplace versions of the same)

[split iron]

I want clicking this link to do the same as clicking "Add to Project"

Also, I can't filter for characters in my library... lol
Even typing 'character' in the search doesn't work right

And it ain't sorted by purchase date, so I'm gonna be here forever

[charred mica]

Does anyone see it? https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/fabs-integrations-for-unreal-engine-5-and-uefn-are-live/2083702

[split iron]

Middle click thumbnail = doesn't open link

I hope the foundation is good, then its just a matter of time until they fix these high level issues

[undone valve]

Thai is great! Gonna add that tomorrow

[tardy charm]

Oh that is awesome. I managed to get it working on firefox too
for some reason firefox doesn't have a plugin that does both css and js scripts. Had to use 2 extensions

[undone valve]

Didn’t even know that. Will also add that soon!

[undone valve]

This is also good stuff! Gonna add that too

[tardy charm]

Characters are smart assets apparently

[charred mica]

For anyone else, plugin is in Library : https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/is-there-a-fab-plugin-for-ue5/2080362/24

[gusty bison]

well the epic launcher Fab Library area is currently showing a subset of my library (it consistently did that back with UM Vault too so I think they have not fixed that), and theres no Fab UE Plugin in there, even with reload 🙂 some things never change

[split iron]

That wasn't very smart
Surely they can have multiple tags that we can filter by...

[drowsy plaza]

Characters almost always come with animation blueprints. Smart assets are assets that have some form of code/functionality attached to them

[split iron]

Yup which is fine, but I still want a Character tag separate from that category type

[gusty bison]

https://www.fab.com/category/3d-model/characters-creatures

theres subcategories inside each category

[gusty bison]

ah, you mean in library

[split iron]

Yeah

I think this will just be part of their process to finalize it

So long as the foundation is good, then whatever, it'll come with time

[gusty bison]

oh-- i had a category filter set in the launcher.... its terrible that it doesnt look visually different when this is set [but thats also not new]

[worldly flower]

oh nice.. the FAB Plugin forces EOS Subsystem Plugin and/or EOS Shared Plugin to be activated - Which the Redpoint EOS SDK does not like 😅

[meager dust]

why on earth would they do that

they'll make a plugin but not a direct download button?

[worldly flower]

They add a "View in Launcher" Button, that opens the Launcher Vault.. right.. but does not open the Plugin one wanted to be shown.. 😂

[meager dust]

looks like it only depends on EOSShared

not the full shebang

and EOSShared just loads the SDK in a predictable way

[worldly flower]

Yepp.. but conflicts with the Redpoint Plugin 😅
Alread opened a ticket at Redpoint - hope they can fix it fast.. or call a solution

[meager dust]

and as expected, the EOS SDK is used for auth

[worldly flower]

And it seems like it not even saves the auth over session.. in my test project i need to authenticate every time i open the FAB Window 😅

[flat island]

They don't verify these assets?

These are new assets... I also saw an iPhone

[arctic plover]

They were supposed to just take the fab part of sketchfab, not the sketch part. 🤦

[terse trench]

so

Looks like the Fab plugin is now live in the vault which can be used while in editor as outlined by the documentation. My hope was this plugin was going to make things better by actually allowing me access to assets not showing up in my vault but the reality is that it made the entire process way more cumbersome and confusing. Assets that are UE licenses available in my vault prompt me to buy them again when I navigate to them via the fab plugin window and the items I have fab licenses for simply point me back to my vault which doesn't list the asset.

[spark dove]

So Epic emailed me back asking for a screenshot of the error, I tried to reply with one and my email got blocked with:

"Hi there! The address you're emailing is unsupported and not monitored for replies. To reach out to Epic Games Player Support, please visit our website: https://help.epicgames.com"

so had to open up a 3rd ticket to tell them I couldn't respond to the escalated ticket, wild...

[terse trench]

There is no "drag the asset into the scene" option at all from what I can see.
As outlined in the docs
The "add to project" button only shows from the vault items and 1/4th of my fab items are still missing from my vault

[drowsy plaza]

They said that’s coming

[flat island]

Send me what you bought recently on FAB

😅

[terse trench]

1/4th of my assets simply are not there.

[lapis isle]

is the new master material bugged? AO doesnt seem to work.

[meager dust]

I'm not sure why you'd be super particular with using database terms here

[gusty bison]

I got burned by realizing I had filters enabled on the launcher vault area-- they don't have any visible indication until you click filters and make sure All is active and everythings checked. just in case you haven't checked for that yet. This isn't new with fab, but also unfortunately not fixed with the fab changes either

oops should've been in reply to the 1/4 of assets not being there message

[terse trench]

Yeah they are trickling in slowly and it appears it’s primarily “full project” types but yeah it’s not a filter issue

I own thousands of assets

Looks like they brought the api down for a minute then brought it back up so likely I got caught in all that

[odd onyx]

Does anyone know the popular AI plugin with tree branch decision making? I can't find it on Fab

I forgot the name but it has pink colored marketing ._ .

nvm I found it: https://www.fab.com/listings/5ce80372-680e-43a3-8ab3-f0e74945a21c

[pulsar nova]

right

[glossy idol]

Hey peeps,
In case you didn't know, as there still isn't a sales reports page yet on fab, you can still use the unrealengine.com website to access your sales reports and it does update with FAB sales. If you have the issue where you try to login to your account and it redirects you to Fabs website, here is the direct link to the sales reports page just in case. Hope this helps peeps out 🙂
https://publish.unrealengine.com/v3/reports/sales-reports

[fossil dune]

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[tepid niche]

is there no sales on fab?

also do we already have the fab plugin? ^^

[undone estuary]

there are sales, and yes the plugin is now in your library if you refresh it

[terse trench]

Thank you

[lapis isle]

the one thing i wanted out of fab was to be able to filter to the things in my library that need to be updated. ugh

[hollow zephyr]

*and wishlists (again)

[tepid niche]

Because searching for on sale, no results are found

[rigid girder]

How do I access sale numbers in Fab?

[fiery leaf]

is "Free for the month" Gone as a section on fab? It used to be on the marketplace tab
or is there still a way to pull it up?

[tepid niche]

How do I add the fab plugin to a existing project?

[hollow zephyr]

Its still there on the fab homepage, smth like featured free content

[undone estuary]

@tepid nichethere are sales yes, there just might not be any right now

[tepid niche]

ok cool 🙂

and I'm seeing the Fab Library in the epic games launcher but not in the editor I don't see a fab plugin like quixel

[undone estuary]

refresh your library in the launcher and it should show up

[tepid niche]

ohh cool thanks!

and I'm probably blind but where in the editor do I find it?

ohh nvm in the content browser 🙂

[undone estuary]

it should be full, it should be similar to the one in your launcher

[tepid niche]

Yea just realized that I was not authorized in the plugin, now it works fine 🙂

[fiery leaf]

ok looks like thats the only place they have it now

[honest blade]

Does anyone know where you can find any info on sales, etc on things you have uploaded on FAB?

[fiery leaf]

I found a link that leads you to the featured free page

https://www.fab.com/blade/7c8a9479-b008-4d52-8a15-a880a118327f?context=homepage

[honest blade]

Does anyone else have the issue where you technically own something, but you can't add it to your library? Download tells me to add to to my library, but I can't.

[pulsar nova]

I don't want a plugin for fab, but I guess it beats having to use the launcher. I wish they'd just let us download the files normally

[pastel kindle]

Best option would be to allow people the choice to either use the plugin or download the file directly

[silent mesa]

fab links to assets doesnt also show their rightful thumbnails and names of the asset here on discord like this
https://www.fab.com/listings/58a21054-ca60-427d-a12c-c070f17395a8

[brittle helm]

How can I access the assets that are missing on Fab????!

Like this one!!!
https://orbital-market.com/product/military-weapons-silver

I am following a tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Q57Yso9mM

I am already worried that I may have trouble following many tutorials because of this new Fab coming out.

[lapis locust]

I have the same problem. Only that in my case it is my own asset which I cannot add to my library. Actually, my own assets should automatically appear in the library. Very strange. I have already informed support about this.

[honest blade]

It's also my own asset actually. So we're in the same boat. lol

[lapis locust]

Was your asset automatically released when the FAB marketplace was released or did you publish it manually? I published it manually. All my other assets were published automatically and are also in my library, as they should be.

It looks like it has something to do with it...

So the search function is still poor...I hope it will be improved considerably. I can't even find my own asset even though I enter the complete name...ouch.

[stoic field]

Fab says an asset is in my vault - but it isn’t and it wont let me download it - because it is in my vault…

[lapis locust]

What I find even stranger is that the release date of my asset has been changed from the original 22nd to October 23rd....why 😂

[compact venture]

Hello all
Does anyone know how to submit file updates to your approved listing on Fab?

[lapis locust]

It was impossible for me...I think you can't

Only after publication...also strange.

[compact venture]

So we can't submit bug fixes or new features to a published product? 😱

[lapis locust]

You can....But not for the 'Approved' list...at the moment

[compact venture]

Hmm
Ours are on the "Live" list, does that make any difference?

[undone valve]

What the hell has Fab to do with EOS? Epic be dreaming stuff

[gusty bison]

its used for the epic login apparently

[charred mica]

They broke all EOS Plugins 😦

[worldly flower]

The FAB Plugin uses the EOS Shared Systems for authenticating you with the Library..

Nice Job of Epic to just drop this without giving the EOS Plugin Creators a chance to update their stuff BEFORE FAB Plugin release 😅

I yesterday posted an issue to Redpoint Games for their EOS Online Subsystem..
Hope June can update that plugin quickly..

[worldly flower]

UH - found an Asset that uses the 3D Preview 🙂
https://www.fab.com/listings/8e84ab51-fb2c-4806-86d6-183e21e6197b

[gusty bison]

a lot of the quixel ones do

and a lot of (all of?) the sketchfab ones do too

[worldly flower]

nice

[gusty bison]

apparently not all the sketchfab ones, this looks like its from sketchfab: https://www.fab.com/listings/6b3b82cb-a88d-456f-9816-19c2fb9ea884

[worldly flower]

(I'm not that into Quixel and SketchFab)

[gusty bison]

this bag of doritos has it https://www.fab.com/listings/d6c38ab4-0d81-4992-a8d1-c82df5acfe44

huh, the doritos appear to have a two sided material, the inside is rendered

we'll be generous and say its a two sided material and not double the vertices for no reason

[digital agate]

I think there may be a few bugs in the renderer, one of my models is not displaying well at all

[gusty bison]

I did notice on mobile, after a bit of zooming the whole model just stops rendering even if you zoom back out

[worldly flower]

And, again, we have Assets definitely created with AI.. but not tagged as such.. nice..

[gusty bison]

oh, it doesn't break if I fullscreen it first

but then the control buttons fade out and can never come back so there's that

[worldly flower]

An addition to your trello:

Rightlicking a Thumbnail only gives the options to open the Image.. but not the link to the asset page.. Would be nice to have the Thumbnail being part of the Asset-Object, too.. not only the Asset Name.

[vale prawn]

FYI: sorting by "Newest" on Fab is a lie. It sorts by "kinda new-ish, in whatever ordre we decide it to be".

[worldly flower]

Sorting and Filtering currently is a Lie.. 😅

[vale wraith]

Guys, Shouldn't the content that has an AI generated image in the icon preview be tagged as Generated with AI?

[worldly flower]

#fab message

The Assets are not moderated.. there are so many creators just ignoring the rules of tagging..

And no one can tell me, that a serious Artist sells 2500 icons for 7$

Including stuff like 20 icons of the same visual, just arranged or shaded differently..

we need a "Report AI shit, not tagged as AI shit" button..

[mental comet]

Hey mates, does anybody know if reviews and/or questions will be returned to Fab?

[worldly flower]

Hopefully

But more important is, to fix the installation of Plugins and adding the Wishlist..

[wild hill]

So im guessing they will add a way to add all the claimed quixel to your library?

[worldly flower]

Already exists

[wild hill]

are you talking about claiming all?

[worldly flower]

yes

after hitting the Claim all.. the Quixel stuff is added to your library

[arctic plover]

It's not actually

[worldly flower]

you mabe just need to refresh the launcher Vault

[arctic plover]

the quixel stuff only shows a subset

[wild hill]

yeah but I am talking about adding it from there to your library

its not added to library, just claimed in the quixel profile, i believe

[worldly flower]

they are not directly added to the FAB library on the website.. since that would mean, your library get littered with 18K+ Assets

You need to get them via
https://www.fab.com/sellers/Quixel

And don't get confused if some (nearly all) of the Assets on the Store Page are not marked as "Owned".
If you claimed them, you can download them/Add individual to your library

[arctic plover]

Yeah, they need a better system for handling the quixel stuff

[arctic plover]

Are they really claimed though if they aren't shown as owned?

My understanding was that they're all free until EOY

[worldly flower]

yes..

As Example from my Lib - Some are marked as "Owned".. the others not.. but even the others, since i claimed them, are owned.. just not tagged as..

Bug of the Fab page

[arctic plover]

Oh, so they've said it's a known bug then?

[worldly flower]

See Medieval banquet:

[arctic plover]

Okay, thanks

[worldly flower]

"megascans claimed" is mentioned on the right... i can download and add.. but on the Store page, it is not tagged as "Owned"

I think that will get fixed soon.. Maybe they missed to compare the Libary with the actual loaded Store Acrticles..

[narrow wave]

Fab seems to have trouble showing stuff as owned on search pages, but you do own them

[arctic plover]

Thing I want to see them fix first is the launcher problems honestly

it's impossible to sort with all the new categories, and it lets you add plugins / content twice if you already had marketplace versions

[wild hill]

Yeah I just dont want them to pull some legel trickery in Jan 2025 and be like oopsie guess its not really yours since you didnt do this one thing

[arctic plover]

If it shows owned on the item page, you are good

[worldly flower]

The launcher is a whole other Task..
In my opinion: They need to overhaul the whole thing.. from scratch..

It is slow, memory heavy and not accessible enough to work well with it..

[wild hill]

see when i added it to my library, now is shows as owned in the quixel profile

[worldly flower]

All they've done during the past years was, put more load on the launcher, without fixing the basement..

[arctic plover]

Agreed. I absolutely love the 10 minute wait on first launch of the launcher

[wild hill]

so it makes it seem like it only gets "owned" once in library, otherwise it has free status which may change later

[worldly flower]

no

[worldly flower]

If you claimed it, you are good

[arctic plover]

I think they intended for claim all to actually claim everything. If the individual items show owned, you're good. That's a bug that should get fixed. Anyway, I wouldn't go crazy adding all the quixel stuff unless they still haven't fixed it in December

[worldly flower]

Currently, don't rely on the "Owned" tag

[wild hill]

watch us sitting for 12 hours adding everything manually in december

[worldly flower]

Would be a bit stupid to have to download multible TB of Assets, just to add an owned Tag, that is simply missing cause of a Bug ^^"

[arctic plover]

Well TBF, that's how the old quixel bridge worked 😆

You wanna know who spent a week downloading every Quixel asset on bridge? This sucker 😂

[wild hill]

oh jesus christ

[worldly flower]

All 18.871 pieces? o.O

[arctic plover]

Yeah, kicking myself for wasting time on that. They come with standard license now, so you can actually use them outside Unreal Engine. I hope they add a replacement or new version of bridge for the quixel stuff. I really don't want it all mixed with the regular fab stuff. That was one annoyance on the old system. Those megascans packs cluttering the vault.

[arctic plover]

Yes sir.

[worldly flower]

Epic will also add a way to Add all Quixel stuff at once to your library.. i really hope that they will stay in a separate library tab.. so the normal Plugins/BP/Assets stuff is not littered with 18K+ megascans

Right now.. epic has 2 Months ultimatum to fix that 🙂

[vapid crow]

fab u lous

[arctic plover]

Yeah, really really *really * hope they keep them separate. Library will be totally unusable otherwise

[restive tiger]

They should have a one click download button to a local drive with bridge too see assets

[undone valve]

Bruh

[undone valve]

Great 👍 Thank you

[echo egret]

Has the engine version filter been removed!??? C'mon Epic... can't be...

[white rune]

When is Sale starting on FAB?

[echo egret]

That's gonna be a long wait... there's too much to still get fixed.

I think.

[white rune]

ahh so no buying till then?

[raven quarry]

the more I use fab, the more I miss the MP

by use I mean browse

[echo egret]

I suspect the Free For The Month has also changed... they are labelled as Featured Free Content now, which I'm not sure if it's meant to change anything in how it works.

[raven quarry]

maybe there won't be montly refreshes anymore?

[echo egret]

Or once gone free they remain free.

I really dunno.

[raven quarry]

like the permanently free stuff

I think excluding sketchfab as a whole would've helped fab so much better

[echo egret]

basically, a mix of the two things, and each month they list 5 as Wfeatured". It's just an assumption, mine, nothing more than that. We'll have to wait and see.

[raven quarry]

it looks like the whole thing is full of junk

[echo egret]

I agree on that, I expressed my concern about that a lot before FAB was released.

[raven quarry]

plus i wonder why epic didn't move to fab gradually (from the customer's perspective, I mean)

[echo egret]

low quality, copyrighted content from games and other rip-offs...

[raven quarry]

well at least you can filter it out

so yay

[echo egret]

yeah, at least that

[raven quarry]

wish they take it out or deal with it some other way

[echo egret]

but still it does make the whole system slower anyway so ain't a win-win...

[raven quarry]

it does say october free content

[echo egret]

What I'm annoyed by the way is the fact we cannot see the assets on the launcher and we are forced to run the browser, which slows my CPU tremendously despite all tabs merging extensions and the CPU/GPU controls {I Use Opera GX}. Unless i have to watch tutorials on YouTube I want to keep my browser shut down.

[vestal sluice]

Hey so can someone clarify this one thing about about the licenses work ? If someone buys an asset using a personal license for 20$, and the dev's game became a hit making a lot of money, does the dev need to buy another fresh pro license at full price ? If a pro license in this case is 50$ here, do we pay the whole 50$ again or just need to pay the remainder 30$ that adds up with the 20$ from personal ?

[echo egret]

Yeah, maybe that won't change at all, I mean... that feature was what made Epic marketplace special.

[raven quarry]

i don't think we'll need to buy another license for what we already have

just my thoughts tho

the fact that we can't sort A-Z pisses me off so much

[echo egret]

I believe, from wt someone explained yesterday, it doesn't matter the income generated by the project/game we made using those licensed assets but the income generated up to 12months before the purchae. I might have understood wrong by the way.

[worldly flower]

The sortings will come.

But currently, even sort by newest/oldest is not working properly.. especially since nearly all migrated assets do have Release Date 18-Sep-2024

and it sorts by that 🙂

[echo egret]

👆 😏

[worldly flower]

i guess there will be some sort of "Upgrade License" in the future... But for now.. Epic has to deal with more important Fab problems 😉

[echo egret]

I'm more concerned the UE version filter has gone

Just like that one 👆

[raven quarry]

heh, I noticed that lol

[vestal sluice]

Yeah I think that's the case. But hypotethically, if someone did make more than 100k$ in the last 12 months, its not clear if the dev needs to purchase pro versions of the assets again rather than some sort of license upgrade taking into account existing purchased standard license.

I guess it's not something worth thinking about now considering fab's current state

[worldly flower]

not really..
I think.. more Important is to get rid of the installation Error in the launcher (MD-DL-001-0)
Adding the Wishlist back
A Solution to add all Quixel Assets at once to a separated Tab of the Library
Fixing the Categories of Assets.. since they are confusing and not even used correctly
Blacklisting of deprecated Assets
Moderating all Assets to fix the wrong Tags (like missing AI tag for AI things)

[raven quarry]

and letting us filter sketchfab nonsense

[echo egret]

All of that indeed. Specially this one > Error in the launcher (MD-DL-001-0)

[vestal sluice]

I wish they gave us an option to remove the per seat license limit on code plugins

[raven quarry]

oh crap does this mean I need to buy a license for every single member of my (potential) team?

[echo egret]

exactly

[worldly flower]

Currently.. yes

[raven quarry]

;-;

[echo egret]

I'm runnng Solo so I'm not concerned but yeah... kinda annoying, I guess.

[raven quarry]

does this apply for plugins bought on the MP too or only on fab?

[cursive chasm]

Get rid of this “professional” crap license and give us per seat pricing. Ffs

[worldly flower]

Only Exception - When the Seller states in a document shipped with the Asset/Plugin, that one buy is usable by the whole team

[raven quarry]

well at least a lot of us won't be needing to buy professional for a loooong while

maybe even forever

[worldly flower]

But i think, this is a thing the Seller itself needs to clarify.. either by stating with an own license shipped.. or by reducing the price per seat to fit the new terms

[worldly flower]

Since of the migration.. there is no more MP licensing.. only FAB

[vestal sluice]

So the seller has the rights to override Epic's per-seat limit by stating it in the document or a readme inside the plugin ?

[raven quarry]

but I bought them before fab was even a thing :((

[worldly flower]

The Seller ALWAYS has the rights.. since of the copyright

[vestal sluice]

I guess i'll just do that

[vale prawn]

Are you sure about that? I don't think they can alter the EULA just by saying it. Otherwise they could just say "Hey, you need to give me 1 billion dollars to open this file, kthxbye"

[worldly flower]

Epic cannot forbid the owner who created the Asset to sell it how he wants to - Specially for EU law.. the owner has the right above the market.

[echo egret]

I saw a developer's assets selling the personal license for several hundred Dollars and the Studio liencse for over 1 thousands dollars... it does make ense when it comes to studio licenses but, on personal licenses that 's discouraging from buying. At that point s a seller's choice in targeting the customer they are interested into.

[vale prawn]

Yes, the owner can sell it however they want... elsewhere. But on Fab, they have to follow the store EULA.

[worldly flower]

Since posting an Asset to FAB does not assign ownership rights to epic games.. and since you pay with revenue for the FAB place.. it still is your right to deal with Seats and company sales as you please

[vestal sluice]

I think i'll mail fab support to clarify whether it's doable

[vale prawn]

It does not transfer ownership, but it does mean that the seller and buyer abide by the store EULA. You can't workaround that, otherwise the EULA wouldn't mean anything and wouldn't exist.

[echo egret]

Anyway... lunchtime for me folks... enough for me with wrapping my head for what' needs to be clarified or fixed... . Take care.

[worldly flower]

in my opinion.. the license system of FAB is too
inaccurate and restrictive.. there are multiple license types missing that really should be there. As many say - a per X-Seat Discount option would help..

like to define:
You buy 20 Seats and get 20% Discount on Prof license.. would already be a better solution than the restrictive ones we now got

The profiler?
https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/profiler-tool-reference

[vale prawn]

I mean you can't actually buy multiple seats or manage them, so if you want to follow that rule, you actually can't. It's just so stupid. They added it last minute (first version of the EULA didn't have it), and added NO support/tooling around it.

[worldly flower]

exactly

In the current State of FAB.. i question myself, why they announced it for mid october.. instead of delaying the release for some months..

Maybe some "bigger" money-people wanted this to be released for Profit reasons.. or Stock..

[vestal sluice]

Yes, it would've been significantly better if they gave more licensing options. Even the personal license could've had a friendly fixed 5 seat limit and pro license being 20 seat would've balanced it for both sellers and buyers. It's not even hard to add something like that.

A lot of UE indie projects aren't solo, there would be around 2-5 people involved. Even if a project has only 3 people, they still need to buy certain plugins 3 times which can quite uncomfortable for many.

[vale prawn]

One of the most annoying thing about that is that Epic implemented a way to check that you have the valid licence for a plugin (PluginWarden), but didn't implement a way to purchase multiple licences! That's just... why?!

[worldly flower]

That's epic 🙂

Implement new Stuff.. but only finished halfway thru

And then.. to showcase the new stuff.. cover the problems and bugs with workarounds and more work, instead of finishing the Feature 😅

[icy basalt]

man

Fab is really cool-

if it wasn't for the masses, the WAVES the absolute OCEANS of ai slop that are shitposted onto the platform, making it impossible to actually find quality work

like... stop...

same with icons or hdri... why tf would i buy an ai generated hdri. Or random ai generated "magic icons" that i can generate myself within 10 seconds

Turns out AI doesn't steal jobs by being better than humans, it steals jobs by just burying human work under an ocean of literal garbage.

[tardy charm]

You can filter out AI stuff. What you sent are music packs with AI thumbnails. I dont think the tracks themselves are AI

[icy basalt]

i listened to a few of them - there is absolutely 0 chance they are not ai generated
Unless there's suddenly some dude who manages to machinegun create music that sounds so samey and so nothing-like, in completely different genres.

[tardy charm]

Lol I didn't even know we had the tech to generate AI music

[icy basalt]

well... """""""music""""""

how can i filter out ai stuff? I'd love to get some flatdesign ui packs for rpgs because they're a pain to svg myself...
But good luck finding icon packs right now lmao

[tardy charm]

if you go to a category like unreal engine products for example, there is a little toggle on where the filters are

[icy basalt]

oooh neat! thank you!

[tardy charm]

note that this thing turns itself back off if you do any search so you need to apply it again

[icy basalt]

fug. Should be turned on by default...

[worldly flower]

The problem with the AI Stuff:

Theoretically, epic needs to moderate ALL Assets again and add the AI-Tag to all AI Shit.
Since many Sellers of AI stuff do not Tag their Assets with the correct tags, to either hide that it is made with AI (to fraud you), simply don't know it exists or don't undertsand that this is the rule of the market.

And we are talking about thousands of Assets from ALL marketplaces migrated to FAB... Way to many to be handled by epic..

THEORETICALLY - The community should get a "Report missing AI tag" Button to help epic out.. even this may gets abused by Trolls..

We now have the "Hide products created with AI". But when only 300 of 1000 Assets do tag their shit correctly.. you still get 700 shown to you..

[tardy charm]

A few things might slip through because some sellers don't flag their AI stuff as AI

[icy basalt]

Like - i have nothing against ai. It's here to stay, and it's a tool.
And there's ways to make really really awesome stuff with ai - if you put effort in it.

I'd have nothing against someone making an hdri with ai - if it were actually useful

If they went through the effort of for example isolating the clouds, making nice normalmaps, so i can use it for more than just "a bad lighting setup"
or if they made 10 hdris with the same clouds, at different lighting conditions or times of day...

the problem is that

people who put effort into their work don't use ai, and people who use ai, don't put effort in

[tardy charm]

Are AI HDRIs even real HDRIs? Aren't they like just normal images?

[icy basalt]

they are, but there's shitty tools that kinda "make it hdri"

they don't work. Not even close

they kinda just expose the fug out of the image, save it as hdri, and badabing badaboom

there should either be a 10€ fee to upload anything onto fab-
Which would instantaneously kill 99% of ai content-

Or people who don't tag their shit as ai - even though it obviously is, should have their entire account permabanned

[tardy charm]

This is why steam has a $100 charge to get a game page. Without it, it'd be another itch.io

It's the only way to filter out most of the really bad stuff

[misty crag]

so maybe charge like $50 for creators to open a seller's account?

weeds out those to are just trying to sell boxes or AI crap... and maybe means something when people who constantly try to sell illegal copyrighted stuff lose their accounts.

[muted creek]

we can sell our own music on Fab too, right?

[compact venture]

Was anyone able to submit updates to products that are already live? Having trouble figuring out how to do this for Blueprint projects

[worldly flower]

yes - but the approval process can take some time..

[mental comet]

😞

[hushed zealot]

Is there sales report page for fab or i use the old portal

[untold bay]

old portal. my fab sales are showing up there

looks like this

[hushed zealot]

Ooo, second question will they add the reviews i got to fab? It says no rating yet on my products although i had many

[untold bay]

Reviews aren't coming back
It sounds like products with under 5 review willl have ratings hidden
Ratings should otherwise remain though many report they are missing

That last condition may? be temporary

[compact venture]

How did you do it please? I can't find the "Submit File Update" button on Fab (like there used to be on the old marketplace)

[hushed zealot]

Thank you

[silent mesa]

i keep right clicking the thumbnail of assets, and missing the name of the asset and it just shows the picture, i was hoping it was also a link to the asset.

[worldly flower]

Below the Thumbnail, you see "Included Files"

You then select the Engine you want to update the Files for.
There you find the Plugin/Asset versions and the Create new version button

[worldly flower]

yes.. i think Nikolas already put that in his trello, which he submits to epic 🙂

[compact venture]

But what if you already have a version which you just want to update?

Or do you need to delete the old version and create a new one

[worldly flower]

Yes 🙂

Don't worry.. if you delete the version in the publisher portal, the asset is still available. it only gets processed after approval

[compact venture]

Thank you so much..
The delete listing button wasn't showing up because there was only one version, so I had to add a temporary one with a different engine version, delete the old, then fix the new one

[astral finch]

any way to retrieve favourites from the old marketplace?

[worldly flower]

#fab message

[craggy quarry]

Is Fab UE plugin supports as well to a lower version of Unreal like 4.27?

Or is it only available to version 5.1 above?

[unreal stratus]

5.3 and above only

[silent fjord]

Is it me or is the fab store worse in terms of value. Everything seems to have more license restrictions

[ebon urchin]

Do you know which email address to send to?

[tardy charm]

This is amazing

[fresh sphinx]

My question is how does that get submitted and approved

[worldly flower]

via AI moderator?

[fresh sphinx]

I thought fab would still have the same system in place for asset approvals as UEM. Which as far as I know, was all manually approved by somebody

But I suppose that wouldn't be possible now with the overwhelming amount of assets that probably get submitted

[dusk kelp]

Sooooooo, do reviews/questions no longer exist in fab?

[worldly flower]

Currently... No

[dusk kelp]

Oof

[worldly flower]

But, as the wishlist, i think they will add it again

[honest blade]

I published a new thing, it's my first thing on the marketplace. Same as you

[raven quarry]

it's total garbage compared to the MP

all they had to do was remove the stupid ai generated image spam and maybe add the 3d viewer

that would've made it 100x better

[tardy charm]

this likely got merged from sketchfab and if we know anything about moderation when it comes to those merges, we certaintly know there's next to none considering the amount of copyrighted content on here

[worldly flower]

I wouldn't be that harsh here..
Sure.. complaining is ok.. but the amount of migration from 3 stores is immense.
On Top comes (maybe) pressure from people in higher positions..

If epic now finds the correct to solve issues.. first starting with the 2 major problems (installing error of plugins and Qixel add to library).. this could get a well made store

[tardy charm]

Oh no, don't get me wrong, I'm not being harsh at the moderation team for lacking moderation. The main issue here is that reporting an asset has very limited options. You can't even report very clearly copyrighted assets unless you're the copyright holder themselves. Like for example, nintendo themselves would have to report a mario asset in the library, no one else can.

[worldly flower]

And (for me personal and maybe other users of EOS Plugins) epic needs to work together with creators of EOS Plugins (like Redpoint Games), to fix the issue where the FAB Plugin kills those other Plugins EOS integration 😅

[worldly flower]

I guess, in early 2025.. when a good portion of bugs got fixed.. epic will moderate the stuff..
Simply cause they get part of revenue then from the Authors sells.. which would makes epic being part of the copyright fraud 🙂

Currently, sellers get 100% revenue..
Which only exists until 31th December.. after that, Epic would get partial guilty when taking their share

[tribal wave]

Apparently the fab plugin is out now, for any interested parties

[worldly flower]

Unusable for me.. and others that work with EOS plugins.. since the FAB Plugin's EOS Shared usage kills those Tools 🙂

Here the Announcement from Redpoint Games (EOS Online Subsystem Plugin):

[trail heron]

so... good thing that we can FINALLY.... have more than 4 products per row. but it also lags like hell when you make the window bigger xD

[charred mica]

I would have assumed they would have updated atleast the devs about this or given a workaround, but they are least interested in it. I assume they won't provide support too saying to do workarounds as they won't be going back and making it again.

[trail heron]

guess the quixel assets on fab at least work the same as they used to.

and you can still drag and drop directly from the fab plugin into UE

the UI's responsiveness is absolutely abysmal though.

[worldly flower]

I mean.. it's absolutely stupid to have a plugin where you need to authenticate yourself via an Online Subsystem of Unreal.. instead of the simple login via Epic Games account..

[tribal wave]

I mean, having to login 50x times a month wasn’t great either but yeah

[worldly flower]

Sure.. but it didn't kill all the EOS Multiplayer SDK Plugins. That don't rely on the current UE release version internal SDK

The quickest solution would be, that the FAB Plugin only relies on the UE internal EOS SDK, when no other Plugin ships its own..

And you also need to think about companies, that also use their own SDK implementation.. which is also f###ed now 🙂

But.. one can simply deactive FAB as Plugin right now to continue developing..
The reason i stated this on a lower Fix-This Prio than the Installation error in the Launcher and the a way to add all Megascans to the library at once..

[raven quarry]

wait what happened to the categories in the vault

wtf is airports? why is animation on it thrice?

[vale prawn]

I think Fab's category are hierarchical, but they're presented flat on the launcher

[raven quarry]

ahh I see

[raven quarry]

nah, don't think that's the case

even if I select all three of the animation categories, i still can't see all the animations that I have

[vale prawn]

You mean that some products might not be properly tagged and sorted? Well now, that would never happen on Fab!

[raven quarry]

right, I forgot it'll still apply on the vault

the whole transition could've been handled better

MUCH better

absolutely

[vale prawn]

Understatement of the year right here 😄

[raven quarry]

why are "airports" and "animations" in the same category LMAOOO

[raven quarry]

wanted to put it gently, that's all

[worldly flower]

And all would be so easy..
When committing a Tag in the Publishing Portal.. they just need to make All Text uppercase and replace - and _ with a space.. and disallow enything other than Letters, space and - or _

Or only allow predefined tags..

[raven quarry]

just use the existing marketplace system

if I wanted to see all animations, all I needed to click was the animations category

now there's 3 of them and they still don't show all of the animations

[atomic mason]

I would say this launch is a prime example of how not to launch something. Another point on the long lust of u finished and untested stuff Epic released in the last years.

[raven quarry]

still wondering why they chose to outright replace the MP instead of slowly transitioning

like phasing out gradually

[trail heron]

that is definitely not worse lol.
login issues and problems getting into games on launch is really common, and not that serious. from a gamee devs perspective it doesn't make too much sense to scale everything to handle potential peak loads at launch when just hours or a day later usage drops off by 80%

[raven quarry]

ye server issues on launch is acceptable

don't think the problem we have with fab is the server stability

[fossil dune]

Fab has been “coming out” for 2 years now…. i guess this was thier idea of phasing out….
its not that bad though. i feel like Dec/Jan it will be fine

Wonder if their announcement that took place 2 years back was just a way to gather feedback on the idea but the project wasnt even started yet… smart but deceiving, but still smart…
why build something nobody wants

The 1 year delay is normal?

[raven quarry]

as an end-user, I only saw fab yesterday (or was it the day before that?)

[trail heron]

yes.

[fossil dune]

okay

[fossil dune]

You don’t remember the delayed announcement?

last year ish

it was supposed to be out in 2023 i believe

[raven quarry]

I know the announcement, yeah

[fossil dune]

before the delay announcement there was another 1… the official “fab is coming”

personally i see nothing wrong with it now, especially since they make their updates snappy compared to UE marketplace which rarely received updates

I believe it will be stable by Jan1st with features that most people are asking for

[raven quarry]

i can spot many mistakes, see this ^^

[raven quarry]

yeah, I get it

what im saying is that i wonder why they didn't phase it out gradually

like until fab is feature-rich

[fossil dune]

They spent 2 years trying to phase it out. that would mean 3 years

[raven quarry]

cuz it's clearly lacking a lot of MP's features

[fossil dune]

not a good look

[fossil dune]

agreed

[raven quarry]

let me word it this way: why couldn't they run them in parallel until fab was ready?

[fossil dune]

they had to release it as is… and improve as time goes

[raven quarry]

not with UEFN, with UE

[fossil dune]

they would have to tap into the same database. that would be a mess for webmasters

[raven quarry]

ahh that makes sense

[fossil dune]

trust me, you don’t want two applications (websites) editing and reading from the same database

if one is editing , the other can just read without editing (i believe thats why fab sales reports are showing in ue marketplace now) its not writing just reading…. i believe from yesterday onwards only fab has write permissions

[raven quarry]

yeah I get that

[dawn mist]

FREE Character
https://www.fab.com/listings/11d20d01-b764-4936-8163-cb20d05c369e

[raven quarry]

is that yours?

[echo egret]

Alright, just installed the plugin, the editor is restarting... I read we have to login once we open the interface... did I read that correctly? I really hope is not the case... I hated the fact I needed to login anytime I opened Quixel... I really hope they will just consier the launch and login into the launcher as the only login we need!

[echo egret]

I'd rather ask "is that you!??" 😄

[raven quarry]

oh lol I didn't notice the PFP

man just modeled himself and giving it away for free

[raven quarry]

probably to verify your account for the first time

[echo egret]

Rigged on Skeleton 5.. awesome! I'm so pissed when i see new characters released and they are still rigged to the old one... it has a glorious legendary past but it is past now! Welcome Skeleton 5! PS: Very nice quality btw, visually speaking.

[echo egret]

Well, that's ok of course I did and all seems pretty cool, I'll start using it and see how it goes.

[raven quarry]

i hate logging it all the time too and I use 2FA

need to grab my phone and bring it everytime i need to use bridge lol

let me know if it's no longer the case, I'm curious

[echo egret]

Now all I can hope is they add a filter to avoid 2Ds and music/sounds assets take us over.

[dawn mist]

Ohhh, thank you, I tried to do well, Enjoy!!!

[echo egret]

You're welcome Andrei, thanks! I wonder... are you considering the idea of releasing bald male/female base bodies bundle with no hair and no outfits that we can dress up just buying hairstyles and clothes separately? I saw you're selling clothes and accessories that way so I guess it's really what you're gonna do. That would be awesome. Thanks again for the free character indeed!

I'm adding him to my current project to test both FAB's plugin and your character and things so far look smooth downloading and adding into the editor on the fly.

Great! Both the plugin and the character worked as a charm. And all that took...

...just less than 10 minutes

Not bad

At all!

Dinnertime for me... enjoy folks, be creative!

[honest blade]

Does FAB have a support page? When searching on google, the support page doesn't exist. The link is there, but leads to a 404 basically. And clicking support on the bottom of FAB takes me to the community page.

[vale prawn]

https://support.fab.com/s/?ProductOrigin=FabSupport

[honest blade]

Thank you! How do you normally navigate to it?

[velvet sequoia]

Can I self promote a new fab plugin here?

[vale prawn]

And clicking support on the bottom of FAB takes me to the community page
From said community page, the last option points to the link I shared

[vale prawn]

No, this goes to #1054845218723209226

[velvet sequoia]

K ty

[dawn mist]

I'd love it if you could give me some feedback. It will help me in my development.

[velvet sequoia]

I was really hoping discoverability would improve from the unreal marketplace when switching to Fab, but it seems even worse?
You can't really do keyword searches, listings can't do much with the 15 tags you are able to assign to it, based on presets.

I think the plugin I made is rather unique since I spent hours looking for something that did what mine does before I made it, and found nothing. I can't even find my own plugin, knowing exactly what to type to possibly hit something in my description and it never comes up. Buried in a sea of things completely unrelated.

Is it intentionally designed to be impossible to find things?

[vale prawn]

Search is very bad at the moment, the team is working on it

[velvet sequoia]

Alright good to know.

[vale prawn]

(source: https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/updated-10-23-24-fab-list-of-known-issues-at-launch/2080070)

[velvet sequoia]

Thanks for that link. I'll keep myself updated

Tho, considering the launch and how unreal marketplace was, I'm not sure I wanna expect anything lol

[muted phoenix]

is fab website down?

[vale prawn]

Epic: makes the most advanced and complex 3D engine ever
Also Epic: *how do I sort products by dates? I guess it's just not possible 🤷 *

[velvet sequoia]

Fr

It's amazing the things they decide aren't important

Like, they have so much font support for every aspect of the program like UMG and rich text and avalanche, but they don't have an option to change the font you see in the editor???

[steel patio]

Has anyone had problems trying to download their recently published assets on FAB (either in the browser or inside the editor)?

[echo egret]

Tags I'd love to see coming asap ...

[deep gulch]

having the same problem

[tardy charm]

why do you need 2D no AI when you can look at the 2D category with the Hide AI toggle

also, blueprints are now spread across Game Systems, Game Templates and Smart Assets it seems

I do wish you can filter multiple tags at once though

or maybe have negative tags

[meager dust]

I wish the hide AI toggle persisted

[digital agate]

separating Audio into "Music" and "SFX" would be useful

[untold bay]

smart assets is just too big a category IMO. that's absolutely massive

[vale prawn]

Isn't it the case?

[echo egret]

I'm starting to feel my concerns about a prices' raise with FAB are having a confirmation... I hope I'm wrong but you folks can expect to see an increase of prices between 20 and 40%, if not 50%, on environments and, even most likely, in characters. I'm already seeing that tendency taking place right now, among the majority of characters creators, with, surprisingly to me, one only particular name going contrary to that tendency so far. I hope I'm wrong. I won't make mystery of the fact I never had enough budget for purchasing characters at full price but only took the chance during the 70% OFF sale when i could bring home a character for 20-25€ each time. Now I'm seeing some of those prices raising in a way the same character I could have paid with a 70% OFF discount will cost me as they were their previous full price. The same happened in my Country when the new coin EURO, became official, prices rose from 50%, in the best case, up to 100% the prices when the Italian Lira was the official national coin. I'm one of those people who perfectly understands the value of an artist's work so I'm not complaining saying is unfair {I can always focus on creating my own characters with Metahuman and become able to have them looking exactly the way I need}, all I'm saying is I would expect more flexibility now that different licenses are available and that I just hope my words can help starting a common dialogue on this subject, outside personal interests and rather in terms of community interest.

[meager dust]

Kinda needs an in-between Indie tier or something

Prices are set by the creators though

If something doesn't sell, you will probably see prices adjust as a result

[gusty bison]

its going to take time for it all to stabilize

[echo egret]

Yesterday I made an example of what could be reasonable to me, in terms of licenses and prices:

PERSONAL

For an hobbist or student or for individual creator with no more than $25k of revenue or funding in the last 12 month.

INDIE/PROFESSIONALS

For a solo professional creator or a small team with no more than $100k of revenue or funding in the last 12 month.

STUDIO

For a professional team, studios o other entities with over $100k of revenue or funding in the past 12 month.

[untold mantle]

This will level out for eventually. Some of it is due to the merge of the other asset stores. I expect it will balance over time. If anything the 100% revenue on Fab should get sellers to drop their prices through the end of the year. If I sold items, i'd be dropping them right now as you don't have to worry about the split.

[meager dust]

100k is kinda peanuts even for indie

And it's gross, not net

[untold bay]

I also think the 100k tier should be a little higher, closer to 200/300k.

I think there's no universe where this causes prices to increase for the lower tier. It lets sellers capture more of the economic surplus of their assets, which in turn lets them justify more investment in bigger/better assets

It's just plain better for everyone involved

[echo egret]

Let's not forget not all the indies, specially solo developers, hit the jackpot with their game or project... how many successful among, let's say, 100 of them? Ain't all flowers out there...

[untold bay]

If the logistics of it were possible (and they're super-duper-not), ideally for everyone assets would be priced on (flat price + % of revenue generated)

This isn't feasible. Two tiers are still an improvement over one tier.

[untold bay]

that games are hit driven is exactly why asset pricing is a problem. If an asset powers a hit game, it's worth like 100x to the developer than it is to a hobbyist

so there's no one price where the creator can capture a reasonable share of both; you can only choose which side you get hosed on

[echo egret]

And it's a whole new revolution at its own start so yeah, I do expect things to improve over time.

[meager dust]

And I'm sure if there's ever a middle tier it'll need sign-off from like 20 different lawyers

[coral furnace]

im kinda mad at people being upset at asset creators selling their stuff under pro license in FAB lol

calling them greedy

[untold bay]

people like free stuff

and if not free, cheap

[coral furnace]

yes, and i can just as well call them stingy and spoiled

like they call the artists greedy

[untold bay]

notoriously rent-extracting artists

[meager dust]

Yeah I saw that post on reddit

Very eye rolling, equating it to Unity runtime fees

[coral furnace]

those people are really spoiled

[untold bay]

post got upvotes but my counterargument to it did too
in most domains there is a population that doesn't ship much and wants free stuff
and a population that ships and understands basic economics

[coral furnace]

"oh no, now i cant easily afford those 50 assets i wanted to buy to put into my game that i want to maximaly profit on, how dare they to want to profit maximaly as well"

[untold bay]

you see this in SAAS where consistently the most demanding customers are the ones on the free tier

[coral furnace]

not everything revolves around solo indie developers

[untold bay]

competence correlates with buying power

[coral furnace]

and not ever solo indie developer is cheap

[timber mica]

How do i verify fab orders as seller?

[coral furnace]

im paying almost 3.000€ per year for my software

and im solo dev

[meager dust]

I have to remember the majority of people on gamedev subreddits are literally amateurs

[timber mica]

I checked lookup tool thing but couldnt find anything

[digital agate]

I was meaning the search tags along the top (which would be really good if you could just remove tags with an "X" button.

[drowsy plaza]

I hope fab works on the features they promised before adding Minecraft and Roblox support

[undone valve]

Will add that to my Trello list!

[subtle plover]

Most people building stuff and enjoying life don't have the time, energy nor mindset to complain on online forums

[digital agate]

simple rule-of-thumb - "would I say that to their face?"

[drowsy plaza]

What do you mean amatuer? They tell me all the time how much of an artist they are and how the world is better because their Roblox Unity game is played by 3 people

There was one guy on Reddit who wrote this heartfelt letter about how he is okay people pirate his game he spent years making because “touching one’s heart with my art is worth more than any finite dollar”

His game looked awful too

[coral furnace]

Thats why the indie gamedev statistic looks bad but it shouldnt be discouraging

Same with art

[mellow vigil]

has anyone seen a sharp fall in sales since fab's release?

[drowsy plaza]

I haven’t sold anything in the 2 days despite selling most days on the marketplace but it’s only been 2 days so idk if it’s a fluke or something more serious

[mellow vigil]

Same here, Im thinking it might be down to positioning of the product in search results vs on the old marketplace

[drowsy plaza]

Yeah I’m not sure, a friend of mine told me to expect a transition period where sales are low as users migrate to fab and get used to it. Hopefully things will pick up

[mellow vigil]

Fair, hopefully they start doing sale invitations too. Its been a good 4 months of no sale invitations

[drowsy plaza]

It’s only been 2 days, last month I didn’t sell anything from the 22nd to 23rd either

I’m gonna wait until Sunday to check again

[mellow vigil]

Yeah, true. Best to wait till end of month at minimum

Pretty sure most people getting paid either tomorrow or day after

[drowsy plaza]

I was in the publisher sale in September or October but yeah the general sales have been a while. Given fab team is saying “we will announce sale details soon” my guess is they will do a store wide sale next month or introduce the self service discount tool the guy on Reddit mentioned

[drowsy plaza]

I get paid on either the 31st or the 1st but I don’t think many will be paid out for fab this month since it launched late in the month and you need to make 100 dollars to be paid out

[drowsy plaza]

Yeah, I forgot to add last month in that message. Last month I didn’t sell anything on the 22nd to 23rd even on the marketplace, same with prior month. Usually my sales are good for 3 out of the 4 weeks in a month. I guess around the end of the month bills like phone, internet, rent, etc. become due so people stop spending for a week or two

I’m releasing a sister product to procedural NPC Crowds V2 that was free for the month last year but for vehicle traffic so I’m hoping that sells well because before free for the month crowds was my biggest seller

[pliant shard]

Where is the fap publish page?

for daily sales stuff

[digital agate]

It's still on your original publishing portal

[pliant shard]

Hope they'r gonna bring back new releases&special discount pages

or we have to see every 1 usd 2 usd 3D models.

Still samestings on main page

Main Page is biggest problem right nowi

[untold bay]

New Releases should be a front-page option for sure, but I use this bookmark https://www.fab.com/channels/unreal-engine?sort_by=-createdAt&is_ai_generated=0

[drowsy plaza]

I think they will, my guess is with everything be considered a “new release” and discounts not being out yet they probably just hid it for the time being

[round haven]

I am impressed that they managed to have an even worse store to navigate. Takes real effort

[pliant shard]

Newest doesn't work.Main page doesn't have new releases stuff.When i write fps animations on the search bar shows me first horse anim kit and dance anims.tags are going crazy.

[gusty bison]

hmm-- you get different results?

oh horse starter kit is indeed on there though

which is more of a third person animation i suppose

[pliant shard]

i get horse stuff kit btw third line

tags issue

[gusty bison]

the search isnt purely based on tags anymore

[pliant shard]

Still beta

i think

[silent mesa]

for the sellers, what was the exp of having discounts regularly? does it significantly increase your overall income?

As a buyer, personally i dont mind how small or large the discount is, i mean its just a reflex for me to buy something that is discounted.

I do hope they prioritize the discount

[rigid girder]

How do you see the "sales report" from the old marketplace as a seller in Fab? I can't find anything that shows payouts, outstanding payouts, sales, etc

[drowsy plaza]

I do discounts every month and they helped, I’d say it was a 20-30% boost but during epic sales where they all were on discount for like 70% off it was a 500% boost.

I don’t know how well they will help on fab though, I didn’t sell anything the first two days sadly

[rigid girder]

How do you know? Where do you see sales reports now?!

[drowsy plaza]

Same place it’s always been the publisher portal

[rigid girder]

This no longer exists

There is only listing, there is no reports in Fab

[pliant forum]

Very much still there, verified 10 seconds ago

[rigid girder]

The screen exists but the product page isn't aligned with fab anymore. Are you sure it's still updated? Even the image for my asset is old and not what is on Fab.

[drowsy plaza]

The reports tab still works

Don’t worry about the other tabs

[untold bay]

Sort by "Newest" only seems to discriminate at a per-day resolution, so even if you keep refreshing "Sort by Newest" new assets will appear after older assets from the same day

[digital agate]

and probably set to US local time rather than for time zones

[regal ruin]

which blue button do you think i should choose

[pliant shard]

Get a cash

[drowsy plaza]

What is this from?

[regal ruin]

logging into Quixel, I accumulated around 2,400 P via subscription which had been unused so I was given the option to convert points

[drowsy plaza]

Dang 547 dollars worth is a lot

[pulsar nova]

I mean, easy enough, depends solely on if you plan to spend 657 bucks on Epic's stuff

[regal ruin]

hyperwallet is processing the wire, but yeah I took a good look at the store and I couldn't justify an almost 700$ spend

[drowsy plaza]

Think about how many skins and emotes you can buy in Fortnite with that

Interesting so according to itch analytics since fab released my products have had more traffic go their link in description

I really hope epic adds fab store analytics like impression, visits, conversion, etc. before a lot of the other stuff because it’s hard to improve without knowing the data

Also has anyone had any experience getting itch.io to allow files over 1gb? Most my demos tend to have high quality assets in them so they end up being a little over 1 gig

[edgy rain]

did they remove the simple import of quixel assets? Like do you have to import FBX and then setup the pbr mat manually now?

[loud dome]

How are people pricing their products in terms of standard/pro?

I did a $25/$60 split. Reasonable for individuals. And also reasonable for indies making $100k+. I didn't really think of those with millions in revenue when setting price.
First sale on fab was actually a pro license 😄

I like that the split is at $100k and not $1 mill. The split needs to have a certain amount of potential buyers on each side, otherwise the pro license is just wasted. If it was set at $1 mill then I would need to price the pro for those very few. And probably never sell a pro license...

But what's up with the per-seat stealth change?
It used to be 1 purchase per company. And I was fine with that. In fact I don't even want to offer per-seat as it makes no sense for my plugin.

e. Plugins. Code plugins that are being offered on the Epic Marketplace, including Unreal Engine Plugins and Unity Plugins ("Plugins"), are offered to you on a per-seat basis and may only be used by the number of users that you have purchased licenses for.

[cursive chasm]

None of FAB's pricing model(s) make sense. Just do a per seat license and no "Pro" license.

[vale prawn]

FYI this doesn't sort by newest, it's bugged. It sorts by... I don't know, I haven't figured it out yet. But it's definitely not by newest.

[loud dome]

But that doesn't make sense for my plugin again. It would lock a 20 person studio into 20 licenses for something that essentially only runs on the build server.

The new split actually makes very much sense. The per-seat does not, to the point where I feel I had to clarify on my support discord.

Since MeshPack runs at build time I consider that to be only one seat. You never have to purchase more than one license. You can quote me on this 😊

"only be used by the number of users that you have purchased licenses for"
Like what does that mean when the plugin runs in the background for everyone. 0 licenses? N licenses? Is it up to me to decide how many seats a company needs to pay for?

If CD Project Red buys a plugin on Fab. Even just a small editor utility for like $10. They now are on the hook for $10 times all their UE editor users? That sounds insane.

[cursive chasm]

Your plugin can have a written statement on the sales page. "One one license is needed per team/company/enterprise" That's perfectly fine.

But in the case of a the majority of plugins I see the per seat being extremely reasonable because of the value that plugin brings to the table.

If you purchase a plugin/asset/etc you as the purchaser company or otherwise will purchase as many seats as you see the value in.

The plugin might only be worth $10 but actually save 20 hours of developer time to recreate.

You can do some math there that after 10 seats purchased that negates the 20 hours of developer time but still. That value is there.

[loud dome]

That's true. But the whole ecosystem is currently based around 1 license per purchase. And there is no system in place to enforce/encourage this.

If it was a robust built in system for plugins. Then I would gladly adjust the price down to $5 to give cheaper for individuals.

[cursive chasm]

I agree with you. I do, yeah there won't ever be a perfect system for drm of assets. 😦

Riot Games could purchase 100 seats of an asset plugin and just buy the Personal License. 0 consequences.

100 seats or 1 seat 😄

[fossil dune]

How is it insane? CD Project can afford it

or they can write their own. its going to cost them a lot more than $10*N

[cursive chasm]

AAA studio money VS indie/small team money are vastly different.

[loud dome]

It's still money. And an AAA studio would never buy a plugin if it will cost them "$10 to $10k based on how we read the license". A per-seat license needs clearly defined per-seat terms.

[cursive chasm]

Yes.

[loud dome]

With proper integration and per-seat terms it would be really cool to offer utility plugins.
Could price them cheaply knowning most teams would buy a couple of licenses.

[cursive chasm]

I see where UE's "professional" background is ruining its chances of a platform like Fab being successful compared Unity's asset store.

UE Plugin developers expect big money for what Indies/small teams expect for $40 - $80 from the unity asset store.

I look at the two stores and its kinda wild to see the professionalism/customer service difference.

[loud dome]

Yeah. I think the $100k threshold is fine. But it need to stabilize on that first. And not people using pro as a "whale" price.

[undone valve]

Also will add that soon

Thank you

[pastel kindle]

Yeah I noticed that, realy hope that gets fixed soon

[digital agate]

I was surprised at that too, I had thought that it would be an unlimited seat license with the Pro.
I've kind of gone out on a limb and added a statement to each of my products that the Pro license gives them unlimited seats, I really can't see Epic minding, but will see. I've tried to phrase it that it's not the standard way to try and avoid confusion.

[worldly flower]

It sorts by Newest - BUT.. All migrated or auto-moved Assets and Plugins are set to Release Date 18th Sep '24, so all have the same date.. so there is no newest.. and so the sorting is not working on them..

So sad, cannot switch to 5.5. in November...

With all the FAB Problems right now, epic will need much more time to moderate all new Plugin updates for 5.5. support... I think I can switch earliest in Jan '25...

[undone valve]

My opinion about the personal and professional pricing after a few days: I really like the change and I also don’t think the 100k revenue a year is too little. I just think that some people price their products like way too high for what it actually is.

[summer jacinth]

Idk, someone who makes $100k vs $100m shouldnt be paying the same for a license

[worldly flower]

same
it gives the chance for sellers to make a fair price for Indies, individual for Pros

I just wish to have a SpinBox to enter a Seat Amount to buy Pro Licenses for..

[flat island]

Whose earnings have decreased? Because they decreased for me, today I earned 0 😢

[last matrix]

my last sale happened on the 22 the day Fab launched, so whos to say if that happened right before the switch over or not. It's only been a couple days so, gotta give it a bit more time to really know where this is gonna trend

I will apreceate it if the added price tier brings in a bit more money. But gotta give it a couple months to see if that actually works

I also am working on another new asset pack for my store, and even if sales behavior is the same as before, the best way to increase sales is to make more asset packs.

Though coming up with good ideas for usefull asset packs can be a challenge sometimes. Gotta give it time.

[undone valve]

If it was before the switch then there is the “UE Marketplace” instead of “Fab Listings Sale”

[summer jacinth]

Yeah, sales report looks like this

[last matrix]

oh

in that case then it's before the switch

I have yet to make a fab sale

[dusk ibex]

Where is the free for the month in fab marketplace?

[last matrix]

well, I would say I would be way more worried at the future of the asset store platform if you were somehow not making any sales on it lol

someday I will get my skill set to a point that I can churn out content at the level of quality you consistantly hit.

back to the grindstone

[worldly flower]

On the Main Discover Page -> Featured Free Assets

I'm curious.. there now is also Unity support.. Will there be free Unity Assets in addition to Unreal ones, too?

[vale prawn]

It sorts by when the listing was created. So if a product takes more than a few days to publish your listing, it'll never appear on the Newest sorting.

[serene escarp]

With the Fab plugin launcher is unnecessary now - right?

[worldly flower]

wrong.. cause the Plugin cannot install Code Plugins from a running engine

[vale prawn]

To sort by publish date, this is the URL
https://www.fab.com/channels/unreal-engine?sort_by=-publishedAt

[serene escarp]

Is there a workaround?

[worldly flower]

no

plugins have to be installed via the launcher

[serene escarp]

Plugins is just the same files copying to UE dir

[worldly flower]

some work.. some throw the Error MD-DL-001-0

[worldly flower]

And then compiling the whole editor and Engine to run the plugins, yes.. but when the engine is running, you can only live build the project code.. not the editor.. so it won't work.

I would like it, when one can download a Code Plugin from the website and just copy&Paste the content to the engine.. but no.. we have to deal with the launcher instead.. again..

[serene escarp]

No need to compile the engine. The plugin can also contain compiled libs, especially in non-Windows versions

[serene escarp]

You can download Quixel Bridge plugin this way

[worldly flower]

Sure, but the editor hat no live build to recognize them on the fly.. or better said.. not right now.. maybe epic will come up with a solution t this..
But there are other problems way more high up the priority ladder, than this..

[serene escarp]

Actually, I installed some plugins like Vitruvio just copying them into UE /plugins dir. It was recognized by the editor. Anyway, the plugin was broken because it supported only Windows and I use Linux

[worldly flower]

1st on prio list should be the MD-DL-001-0 Error, when trying to install Plugins via launcher.. cause this is of a false manifest loading.

2nd should be to add all megascans to the library at once.. instead of indiviually clicking to death..

3rd should be the problem, that the FAB Plugin kills Third-Party EOS SDK plugins

And then.. maybe.. after fixing Sorting and Listing of FAB Content in the browser.. they should add more features like Code Plugin install via the Plugin

[serene escarp]

At least, code plugins from the marketplace is a rare thing: maybe just some specific integrations like ads, controllers or NFT. Most of the stuff should be as a source code/blueprints and it has simply copying mechanism. The guys who intentionally trying to overcompex obfuscating their code making a plugin while it's unnecessary - I don't like them.

[worldly flower]

Why should Code Plugins being rare?

all Editor Extensions are Code Plugins..

i'd say there are multiple thousands

[serene escarp]

Actually, didn't use Editor exts. I mean stuff like C++ code projects like city builders etc.

Possible, some editor plugins can support next minor version of UE

But wait, USD support I installed without a launcher as well as Quixel Bridge - does it count?

[worldly flower]

Quixel bride is an unreal native plugin.. it is directly linked to unreal and does not need to install.
Same for USD

you just activate them

Installing means to download, link, refresh project Files and then update the editor to recognize the changed files.. sometimes by rebuilding new integrations..
And this.. is not supported on a live basis right now

and it never was

The FAB Plugin currently only supports to have Drag & Drop of Assets (not plugins!) into Scenes and Contents

But not install whole systems or Extensions

[serene escarp]

Diversion version control was installed from outside. But yes, it doesn't require to update your project

but if we talk about like new brushes to paint a forest - maybe it's more complex

[worldly flower]

It would be nice if Epic lets us download the Zip File of a Plugin, so we can copy & paste it directly by ourselves, via the Website.. instead of the "available in Epic games launcher" shit..

Would workaround the Install Error in the launcher for now..

[pulsar nova]

the fact that we absolutely need a plugin or the launcher with an asset cache and the risk of unwanted overwriting of things like config files instead of just letting us download files normally is absurd

[fossil dune]

1000% agreed. They know this but won't do it. Which would have been fine if they provided a reason instead of being mum

[fossil dune]

Right?? if at the very least they would provide a "Why??". But we're just peasants who are not privy to that...

Like if a plugin is for 4.27 it doesn't mean it won't work in 5.5... , now i have to download the entire 4.27 engine just to get it?

[undone valve]

Wasn’t able to work the last few days. Can we install engine plugins directly from the Fab plugin and does it also support older versions like 4.26?

[pulsar nova]

no and no

[undone valve]

Bruh

[silver nacelle]

Just a heads up for everyone. The FAB plugin crashes out packaging. You have to disable it to be able to package your project 🙄

[worldly flower]

An epic games classic 😂

[torn panther]

Bug or feature?

[silver nacelle]

100% a huge selling point feature

[vapid crow]

i wonder why fab even needs a plugin

[serene escarp]

Actually, there'are 2 available launcher alternatives on Github, I use it because there's no Epics support for Linux. So, they could download extensions, I believe but didn't check

[narrow wave]

It'll let you drag and drop assets into your scene like the Bridge plugin did, but I think I heard that's not available just yet

[worldly flower]

it is available.. but sometimes buggy ^^

[serene escarp]

You can try to change the version in plugin's config and launch it. Also it may be possible to convert - UE has batch files to convert versions inside

[vapid crow]

but its an editor only plugin right

[narrow wave]

The drag and drop functionality?

[worldly flower]

yes

[narrow wave]

Ah cool

[worldly flower]

But only works for assets

and i don't know if it works like:
You own an Asset that was not updated since 4.2.. if you still can add it to your 5.4/5.5 project.. since in the past, this only worked by switching "also show unsupported engine versions" to be true.. even it just was texture or a mesh..

Epic again missed to add a "Support all Engine versions" to the list.. since.. Audio files for Example are not "supportable"... it does not matter if UE4 or UE5.. or any subversion.. its just an Audio File.. But the Author/seller has to select ALL Engine versions that are available individually in the list.. instead of 1 Omni-"All"

[fossil dune]

… Yeah thats kind of a workaround. Cumbersome.
My question is WHY? does epic feel the need to force us to use workarounds.
Direct Download links are the simplest thing to do for a webmaster compared to a launcher….
are they trying to prevent users sharing DDL to others? if yes, they can set them to expire… OR tie them to the IP that initiated the download, OR Tie them to the account

[serene escarp]

Anyway, you can share your plugin folder if you want some piracy

[fossil dune]

OR even if tied to the launcher , why does the launcher check if you have the specific engine version… why doesn’t the launcher have a “ download anyway” button

[fossil dune]

exactly

[worldly flower]

cause sometimes.. a code plugin my does not contain the source.. and so is not editable..and isn't compatible with newer Code API of the engine..

[fossil dune]

huh?

[worldly flower]

but thats a thing where epic simply could add this "Support all Engine Version" in the publisher portal.. to give Sellers of ASSETS.. not code related.. a way to make it available for all Engine versions at once..

[worldly flower]

Plugins like Dungeon Architect or Substance do not have an open sourc eavailable.. if the Engine API changes drastically.. which happened from UE4 to UE5.. you won't be able to use the UE4 version in UE5.. and since not open source.. it won#t be editable for you..

[fossil dune]

I don’t follow… my question is why not have a “download anyway” button…. you could give a warning

but give a DDL anyway.
i believe those are special scenarios. most plugins have the source

[worldly flower]

you don#t need a "Downloa danyway"

[fossil dune]

what do i need?

[worldly flower]

HERE.. in this dropdown.. at the Top.. epic should add a "ALL" option

so the Plugin Seller can decide.. if the plugin should be available to ALL engine versions at once..

right now.. the seller has to select ALL engine versions individually of the list.. and the list closes every time an item gets selected..

It's just stupid for not code related Assets, to have this..

while for code related assets.. it's needed, to not break by the Engine API

[fossil dune]

Lets say this :
Im a plugin dev.
I abandoned a plugin at around 4.24
The plugin is still very useful and would build in 5.5 fine or i would make 1 or 2 line changes.
Why do i have to download Unreal Engine 4.24 just to get the plugin??

its crazy

[worldly flower]

Would still not need a force download button..
More a Select download from list of UE versions

[fossil dune]

i still don’t follow fam

what’s the problem with what im suggesting?

whats a better alternative?

i don’t get it

[worldly flower]

if you add just a button to load an asset/blueprint/code plugin directly.. how should FAB know what version you wanna load..?

You need a List in the Download Window, to select the engine version you wanna load the Article for

kinda like in the old marketplace vault, when you switch "Show uninstalled Engine versions" to true

[pliant shard]

fab is now a disappointment.Still waiting uptades

hope it's gonna be better

[worldly flower]

Like:

[Download latest] Button

Scrollbox
   [Download 5.4]
   [Download 5.3]
   [Download 5.2]
   [Download 5.4]
   [Download 5.0]
   [Download 4.2]
   [Download 4.1]
   ...etc

[serene escarp]

Actually, with a direct download you still can't solve the source code issue and recompile the plugin

[worldly flower]

and this.. not only on Fab.com (to download the corresponding zip) - But also in the Launcher Vault

[serene escarp]

So, I'm just trying to not to use such proprietary closed things.

[fossil dune]

I think me and you agree you just don’t see it.

My point is we need a DDL and thats what you’re saying too

[worldly flower]

yes - just give the error-safe recommendation of how it should be done

[fossil dune]

Yeah!

[worldly flower]

a single button.. cannot work..
One needs a list as stated here #fab message

And this is not complicated.. since the Zip Files are located on Fab.. just need to link the individual file with the supported Engine version.. and generate a list of buttons for a Scrollbox...
And place this Scrollbox below the Included Formats:

They still can leave the "Open in launcher" there.. but should give us a list of all Engine version zips to chose a direct download from

Maybe this is coming later on..
Cause to still rely on the (for years now) outdated launcher.. is a really bad decision

I think epic should take a look on blendermarket.. cause they do it exacly that way.. list all versions of an item as download..
I even can load AddOns for blender 2..

[pulsar nova]

I'm curious when we'll see the first sale

we didn't have any in forever with exception of a few specific sellers

[worldly flower]

here an example of how Blendermarket is doing it (for those not knowing blendermarket):

just as this.. in a Scrollable Box..

no launcher.. no bullshit.. just the plugin/asset/file in a Zip.. done..

and maybe with the Frontend Name in the Button as:
[Download for <Engineversion>]

[viral zinc]

yep I wish myself there was another option to download plugins I had to install old versions just to port a thing purchased

itch for example allows zips and special versions to work with the launcher, then you target the one in the launcher

could be something like that

[misty crag]

for plugins at least its somewhat understandable since code can break on version changes.... BUT why do I need to download an old engine version just to grab a few of my art assets, or animations or music? this is rediculous... even if they have updated for newer engines it's probably just a resubmit with no changes.

[pulsar nova]

you can add non plugin content to newer versions tho

[undone valve]

I don’t even know why they support such old versions. Like there is no reason to create a new project in something under 4.16

[worldly flower]

God damnit..
Those AI Asset Creators do not have a single bit of sense for any category or tag.. right?

New AI Shit Icon packages in the UI Section.. instead of 2D Assets 🙄

And lot of new AI Stuff not even tagged as AI stuff..

By Tyr - i hope epic will get better moderators or a better report system running..

[vestal sluice]

If fab provides a permanent seller block functionality, that might partially help us avoid AI flippers. Some AI flippers are notorious for having dozens of AI art listings in a single account.

[worldly flower]

Wouldn't be a problem..if those tag their shit correctly and put it into the correct asset category..

There is..
Giving us "Report untagged AI" Button, that on click chrcks if the tag really does not exist.. if it doesn't, send a report to the support.

And in the normal Report system, adding a "Product is not categorized correctly" Radio Option.

That's a thing a moderator should handle.

But.. obviously.. seeling 1000 icons as pack for 6$ is really suspicious..

I also found many packs that stated in the description to have used midjourney.. but not added the tag

And with many.. i mean maaaaaany

And categories:
The "UI" section should belong to Widgets, Full UI/UX Kits and UI Extensions

And all Texture-only based is a "2D Asset"..

Simple as that..

Seing 3 new Iconpacks submitted to UI, instead of 2D Assets.. is making it obvious that there is 0 moderation behind the system

Not even talking about the more than confusing
3D Model, Game System, or Smart Asset.. what belongs to characters. blueprints and any other something..

They definitely try to make a uniform system for all (Unity, UE and UEFN).. but that is not working..

[cedar bone]

looks they made the thumbnails clickable
yay
at least they seem to listen a little

[unborn flame]

I have a few problems with Quixelassets over fab plugin.

1. You now get ORM instead of ord textures --> easy over the engine accessible displacement information for materials = nope
2. Textures have now weird code names --> easy to search texture by name = nope
3. Mastermaterial with orm support --> Scaling or rotating textures or using a few other functionalities having been there in the old mastermaterial = nope

Is there anything known whether this will be fixed or changed?

[undone valve]

OMG YES IT WORKS

[cedar bone]

but i must mention, it did work from the start but only on the title

[undone valve]

But clicking on a big thumbnail is way more convenient than clicking on a small text

THEY ARE FIXING EVERYTHING

[untold bay]

it's a little improvement but feels great and it's a good sign if they can make the little QOL changes

[undone valve]

Its a weird order but it doesnt start with 4.x versions anymore:

[untold bay]

because as bad as this launch has been, the edit distance to a good place just isn't that far

[undone valve]

Yes!

This just gives me hope that it all wiill be good at the end

[undone valve]

Seems like this doesnt apply to all products though

[untold bay]

part of my hope for fab was for the ability to make any improvements since they were paralyzed on marketplace by having its successor in-progress-but-not-done. cursed position for product development

[undone valve]

Yep. But I think they will now be rolling out updates very often. Its always like that also for my products. After you release it and get feedback you get hyped about it again.

[untold bay]

yes, and it's so much easier to orient and have confidence when you're already live

vs having 2 years of work unreleased

[undone valve]

Its slow. The website is fast af but the plugin is slow

[hollow basin]

I have a quick question about c++ projects on fab. It's my current understanding if you sold a project that was initially marked as blueprint-only that you couldn't later add c++ to the project. Is that the case and would the c++ have to be sold as a plug-in or is there a way to just have it in a content folder? I am very familiar selling blueprints, but first time getting into c++

[coral vault]

Where is free for the month

in fab

?

nvm, its right there xD

Just called Free content now

[split iron]

Is this a bug lol
Different currency perhaps?

I did notice fab doesn't print currency
Just have to assume its local when purchasing
That said, I haven't completed any purchases, maybe it specifies at the checkout

[worldly flower]

i love my Logitech Mouse here.. just give the mouse wheel velocity and you scroll waaaaaay down the quixel library.. since the Store does not save the current Scrollpos for Refreshing..

And my most loved bug...

Already seeing double..

[undone valve]

Yep. Thats a common issue

[worldly flower]

i think i currently added around 2K to my library xD

[undone valve]

Are you actually adding all of them to the library?

Why not wait until Epic delivers their solution to this?

[worldly flower]

Wanted to check how long it took @arctic plover to add that 😅

[arctic plover]

Something like a week to a week and a half, in my spare time when I wasn't working.

After doing that, I am definitely waiting for them to fix the claimed functionality for Quixel assets.

[worldly flower]

YEAH - The launcher does not scan for already installed Plugins.. so one can install them again.. wooop woop

[arctic plover]

Yeah, I already brought that up. I believe Nikolas added it to the roadmap thing

The thing that they shared with the dev team

[worldly flower]

Currenrly.. i am really annoyed..
I think i will play some satisfactory to calm down...

[arctic plover]

Yeah, I guess I'm more patient. But I will be very annoyed if they don't fix syncing fab products to the old marketplace versions in launcher. No way in hell do I want to have to wipe my vault cache and redownload it, and reinstall plugins just to be able to have them updated again.

[worldly flower]

But what really kills me is the Library now..
Whithout type filter... Or having the megascans in a sub-library.. it's the mother of all mess

[arctic plover]

Oh yeah, and they removed the code plugins category

[crimson geode]

Who do we badger to get comments back? I was using those.

[arctic plover]

literally the most useful category from vault is gone

[drowsy plaza]

They just renamed it to tools and plugins

[fluid mountain]

i got fab plugin but i can't find fab in UE5

am i missing something?

nvm i found it

[arctic plover]

Oh nice, so you just have to doom scroll to the bottom of the categories mess to find it now, instead of it being somewhere more usefull, at the top 😂

[tepid niche]

do we know when sales are coming to fab?

[drowsy plaza]

I don’t know what you are talking about, the categories are at the top. There is no scrolling to click on categories

[tame compass]

fail to save the scene axios error

what

3d model setting

[split iron]

Nope, publishers have not been told anything

[tepid niche]

I hope they come soon! Was always exciting to check them out.

[split iron]

I suspect most sellers would agree with you since its royalty free until end of year

[tepid niche]

hopefully they bring them soon then! 😄

[arctic plover]

In launcher, you have to scroll through all the categories

And there is no division like primary and secondary categories to make things easier

Previously code plugins was one of the categories at the top in launcher, and there were far fewer categories you had to scroll through

[undone valve]

I think this is gonna be the biggest sale ever

[drowsy plaza]

95% off

[undone valve]

haha

Hopefully, the sale entering system is better than the old one

[drowsy plaza]

Some guy who works at epic on Reddit said they are planning to do a self service tool

[undone valve]

Hopefully. That'd be amazing

[drowsy plaza]

The technical docs said they wanted you to email them but I’m guessing with how many support tickets they got on launch they probably were like “nah bruh we ain’t do this forever”

[stray sluice]

Could someone please explain how to download an asset from fab and use it? Its much more complicated than Quixel

[undone valve]

via the Epic Games Launcher

[tawny hinge]

https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/commit/15cfc2217c338d87e2747fd0c464399d58e74f0a
[Fab] Submit plugin version 0.0.1 for source users

source engine users can now use the plugin probably (haven't tested it myself yet)

[drowsy plaza]

Anyone can use the fab plugin, it’s downloadable via the launcher

[tawny hinge]

didn't knew that this works with source builds

[meager dust]

well it includes the source

so you could just copy and paste over a source build

[stray sluice]

Where can I find that? Is it official?

I'll be able to import assets?

[last pine]

Library

on the launcher

click Library at top, click Fab Library refresh icon, then use the search bar for "fab" and you should see it

[stray sluice]

Then I'll be able to import assets from FAB like I did from quixel?

[tawny hinge]

so that plugin just links to the vault in EGS?!

ffs epic, you had ONE job

[last pine]

No?

[tawny hinge]

that's not a plugin tho

but yea you are right, for "normal" content it works apparently

[last pine]

what do you consider not normal content?

[tawny hinge]

plugins, stuff which comes with source code

and view in vault wants to open EGS for me

[echo egret]

Hello Sourcers.... small question... any rumor about if and when assets purchased on ArtStation in the past will be available in our Library?

[meager dust]

Ah so it's assets only. I need to see if my Legendary guide still works

[drowsy plaza]

I don’t think you can install a plugin while a project is open, that’s likely why plugins have always been installed before you open the project

[tawny hinge]

i don't see why this wouldn't work (unless it has to be compiled first, but that's another topic....)

[drowsy plaza]

They have never allowed plugins to be added to engine installations while the engine is in use, likely because of read write stuff in windows. I know if you have a program open and try to modify the program windows will give an error

[meager dust]

Well that kinda not how it works anyway

[drowsy plaza]

That is how it works on windows

[meager dust]

You're not modifying the UnrealEditor.exe executable

[drowsy plaza]

If you try to delete or modify a program while it’s running you will get file access errors

[meager dust]

It's dynamically linked

[tawny hinge]

plugins don't modify the engine code/executable

[drowsy plaza]

Unreal is more than its exe file

[meager dust]

Yes? I've been working with Unreal for a while

[drowsy plaza]

Anyways I’m not gonna argue with yall, if it was easy and possible epic would have added that functionality years ago

[tawny hinge]

i think they couldn't care less

[meager dust]

They still don't care about source builds

[spring glade]

hello! I'm wondering if I'm allowed to use an official plugin on a marketplace asset I'm working on

Skeletal Merging plugin ^

[untold bay]

On Marketplace, your asset projects could not enable any plugins, but could require a plugin to be enabled (and you can tell users to enable it)

I do not know if that has changed on Fab

[spring glade]

thanks for the info!

[lavish steppe]

is there not a wishlist/like button anymore?

[mellow vigil]

Yea different currency

[hollow zephyr]

no wishlists...again

at least the old seller reports updates

[drowsy plaza]

I hope I make a sale soon, I’m getting a bit nervous because I was selling everyday or every other day on the marketplace this month but since fab launched I have not sold anything

[hollow zephyr]

visibility took a huge hit

sadly 😔

[drowsy plaza]

What’s weird is my itch and YouTube links are up from fab but yeah idk

[hollow zephyr]

well I hope the search and asset organization gets better

[drowsy plaza]

Yeah, someone on Reddit said he bought something and it didn’t show up in his vault for hours.

He also said he is gonna wait several weeks before buying on fab again due to the bugs

https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/updated-10-25-24-fab-list-of-known-issues-at-launch/2080070

This forums post says they updated search today

I’m wondering how much of an impact fab not displaying local currencies correctly is having on sales, when my games were free to play I did that and it impacted sales negatively

They said that it does that because of the localization setting a user selects/defaults to but I guess it defaults to English America for everyone. That’s probably something they should prioritize fixing. If someone is in the UK it should show the price in pounds not USD

[tardy ivy]

Where do I find the Metahumans in the Fab plugin?

[flat pollen]

Pasting this here for anyone that searches the error... Fab plugin causes build errors when packaging with 5.5

UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: Assertion failed: CurrentApplication.IsValid() [File:D:\build\++UE5\Sync\LocalInstall\Engine\Source\Runtime\Slate\Public\Framework\Application\SlateApplication.h] [Line: 307]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x000001903d8d2fe4 UnrealEditor-Fab.dll!FSlateApplication::Get() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\LocalInstall\Engine\Source\Runtime\Slate\Public\Framework\Application\SlateApplication.h:307]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x000001903d8e9d2d UnrealEditor-Fab.dll!FFabBrowser::RegisterSlateStyle() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\LocalBuilds\Fab\0.0.1\HostProject\Plugins\Fab\Source\Fab\Private\FabBrowser.cpp:98]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x000001903d8df08d UnrealEditor-Fab.dll!FFabBrowser::Init() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\LocalBuilds\Fab\0.0.1\HostProject\Plugins\Fab\Source\Fab\Private\FabBrowser.cpp:68]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x000001903d8762ed UnrealEditor-Fab.dll!FFabModule::StartupModule() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\LocalBuilds\Fab\0.0.1\HostProject\Plugins\Fab\Source\Fab\Private\FabModule.cpp:36]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffa9443f719 UnrealEditor-Core.dll!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffb142da234 UnrealEditor-Projects.dll!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffb142f5f64 UnrealEditor-Projects.dll!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffb142d9ab9 UnrealEditor-Projects.dll!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff700bda882 UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff700bddd25 UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff700bd5796 UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff700bd5a7a UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff700bd9274 UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff700bebc14 UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff700bee31a UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!UnknownFunction []
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffb55157374 KERNEL32.DLL!UnknownFunction []```

To fix, turn off Fab plugin temporarily... also see #fab message

Also in 5.4.4

UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x000001692c2b48a4 UnrealEditor-Fab.dll!FSlateApplication::Get() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\LocalInstall\Engine\Source\Runtime\Slate\Public\Framework\Application\SlateApplication.h:256]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x000001692c2cdb4d UnrealEditor-Fab.dll!FFabBrowser::RegisterSlateStyle() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\LocalBuilds\Fab\0.0.1\HostProject\Plugins\Fab\Source\Fab\Private\FabBrowser.cpp:98]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x000001692c2c2e8d UnrealEditor-Fab.dll!FFabBrowser::Init() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\LocalBuilds\Fab\0.0.1\HostProject\Plugins\Fab\Source\Fab\Private\FabBrowser.cpp:68]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x000001692c2d889d UnrealEditor-Fab.dll!FFabModule::StartupModule() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\LocalBuilds\Fab\0.0.1\HostProject\Plugins\Fab\Source\Fab\Private\FabModule.cpp:36]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffa9447e42b UnrealEditor-Core.dll!FModuleManager::LoadModuleWithFailureReason() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Core\Private\Modules\ModuleManager.cpp:674]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffb3032a944 UnrealEditor-Projects.dll!FModuleDescriptor::LoadModulesForPhase() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Projects\Private\ModuleDescriptor.cpp:696]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffb30346ec1 UnrealEditor-Projects.dll!FPluginManager::TryLoadModulesForPlugin() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Projects\Private\PluginManager.cpp:2766]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffb3032a1fe UnrealEditor-Projects.dll!FPluginManager::LoadModulesForEnabledPlugins() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Projects\Private\PluginManager.cpp:2903]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff71b0d34e2 UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!FEngineLoop::LoadStartupModules() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Launch\Private\LaunchEngineLoop.cpp:4745]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff71b0d7079 UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!FEngineLoop::PreInitPostStartupScreen() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Launch\Private\LaunchEngineLoop.cpp:4000]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff71b0ce146 UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!GuardedMain() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Launch\Private\Launch.cpp:136]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff71b0ce42a UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!GuardedMainWrapper() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Launch\Private\Windows\LaunchWindows.cpp:118]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff71b0d18a4 UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!LaunchWindowsStartup() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Launch\Private\Windows\LaunchWindows.cpp:258]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff71b0e70c4 UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!WinMain() [D:\build\++UE5\Sync\Engine\Source\Runtime\Launch\Private\Windows\LaunchWindows.cpp:298]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ff71b0e96e6 UnrealEditor-Cmd.exe!__scrt_common_main_seh() [D:\a\_work\1\s\src\vctools\crt\vcstartup\src\startup\exe_common.inl:288]
UATHelper: Packaging (Windows): LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffb55157374 KERNEL32.DLL!UnknownFunction []```

[split iron]

I sold 2 copies within days of launch. It's a high priced asset that isn't new so pretty good

[last matrix]

Yeah, I am seeing this change on my end too. At least it looks like some of my packs are more noticable now if you keyword search

I hope that means something for my sales...

but searching via tags for the same keyword gives different results :/

[pulsar nova]

I can deal with prices in dollars but the prices also do not include tax it seems which makes it extra difficult to guess how much it'll actually cost on checkout

[tepid niche]

btw do we know, if the professional and personal license are the same which one to choose?

also why is there some items listed twice when i sort by relevance

[silent mesa]

Fab might be the most talked about thing about UE these days hehe

[hollow zephyr]

same here, results are quite good on search

[last matrix]

Ok, I got 1 sale for Oct 25. One of my $19.99 packs. So only about 2 day gap between my last sale made on the old platform to now after Fab has launched

well that bodes well

[vapid echo]

guys how can i see my product reviews i don't understand anything in this FAB?

purchases history is still on marketplace? or i can see them on FAB too?

[earnest moss]

So how is your selling experience so far ? Does fab increase/decrease you selling?

[worldly flower]

Still on Marketplace.

Reviews are not available yet.. only Rating.
But will come soon or later.. better soon..

[worldly flower]

No change right now.. but depends on the niche of the product

[vapid echo]

Ok thank you

[undone valve]

Hey. So I want to buy a 3d model but I really don’t trust 3d models on Fab due to the high amount of absolute copyrighted garbage 🗑️ absolute trash 🚮 of IP stealing ass. So therefore the question. Does anyone know if this sellers 3d models are okay to use? I want to buy these bells: https://fab.com/s/1fa385f641df

[worldly flower]

good question.. didn't found anything "bad" via google..

Seems like he does Photogrammetry and polish the Meshes before selling..

Currently, seems legit

For models.. i think Fab should have the rule of needing to enter a Polygon Count..
I miss this from platforms like Turbosquid.. which gives a good indicator if the model is polished or just Scan to Sell..

[tepid niche]

Can I return things on fab?

[worldly flower]

I think you need to ask the Marketplace/FAB support for this

[tepid niche]

thanks

[glossy idol]

Hey peeps,
What does this license type mean? Just saw it in my sales report and I don't understand what type it is. All my stuff is listed as standard license with either personal or professional prices.

[undone valve]

I think it is a UEFN sale?

[glossy idol]

Maybe? I don't know XD

[loud dome]

Love that "You have unanswered questions" email I get daily now 😄

[undone valve]

Figured it may be like so I quickly answers the one question that was left with a dot 🙂 But I will add that to the Trello list

[hollow zephyr]

i have this too for a non-uefn asset, but also, isn't reference without the source anyway

[hasty kraken]

no halloween discounts? 😦

[lean breach]

fab plugin makes fail building HLOD and minimap ,
It's failing during packaging and cooking too
disabling it and it went through.. it looks like the plugin is quite a rubbish at the moment 😦

[worldly flower]

It also kills EOS Plugins that use Third Party EOS SDK..
So..yes.. currently unusable for many people 🙂

[drowsy plaza]

Go to the settings tab on the publisher portal and disable that email alert

[silver nacelle]

Really getting fed up of scrolling through FAB in $ instead of £. If you're going to do this atleast give a language of English (UK) 😢

"Prices that you see on listing pages are set according to the language and locale from which you are viewing Fab (e.g., English would display listing prices in US Dollars). Once you have added a product to your cart, however, the price will display according to the billing country indicated on your Epic Games account. So for example, if the site is set to Spanish but you are located in the United Kingdom, the checkout flow will display prices in Great British Pounds."

[vestal sluice]

It still baffles me their launch is this bad -_-

[split iron]

I think it should have separate category for high and low poly too. High poly generally means they authored it themselves, plus it helps to know if you can bake your own maps and redo textures

[split iron]

No one has been notified of a sale. I think they didn't even finish the support for sales lol

As a publisher I've received no communication for that

[split iron]

I haven't been to the checkout yet but it bothers me that it doesn't display currency at the very least, it just a number

[vestal sluice]

I am guessing the next sale would be for black friday, which is the end of next month

[drowsy plaza]

Does it show the right amount though? Like UK pounds have different prices than USD, does it show up as the right amount just wrong symbol or wrong amount with wrong symbol?

[split iron]

So its just on the product page itself that its USD

Oh but it still doesn't bother applying the GST of 15%
It says taxes calculated at checkout but that includes the GST of 15% lol

Sloppy

I don't mind that I can see the original USD pricing though
It just needs to specifiy 99.99 USD, not listing any currency is silly and misleading for people not aware

[drowsy plaza]

anyone else encountering packaging errors with the fab plugin in 5.4.4?

[digital agate]

yeah it sounds very common - disabling it while packaging seems to work

[drowsy plaza]

good to know it wasnt just my project, hopefully they fix it soon

the fab team has a lot of work cut out for them over the next 1-3 months

[cedar bone]

Someone knows if they are planning more UX QoL and fixes?

Like will there be ability to add videos, left/right keyboard slide, fullscreen mode for gallery?

[drowsy plaza]

Make sure you leave that on the fab forums so a staff member sees it

I think priority for them right now should be the correct currency displaying, the scrolling bug where when you back out it goes to the top, and improving discovery/search

[cedar bone]

where is the link to that, wasnt it closed for others?

[drowsy plaza]

Just search “unreal engine forums” on Google

They have a fab section