fab

[tardy charm]

their servers are really suffering

we downgraded from Fab's error message to literally not even getting to that point

[pallid basalt]

sketchfab has been full of unlicensed IP and copyright infringing assets for years and now they've merged it into fab, they're gonna have to address it at some point lol

[faint nexus]

True, the main problem is the licenses that accompany these. They will have to address it sooner than later.

[lilac bramble]

On one of the devices I was able to login and when clicking Claim all Megascans getting:

CSRF Failed: Origin checking failed - https://www.fab.com does not match any trusted origins.

This is such a mess...

[odd badge]

I get the same CSRF error when clicking Claim All Megascans ^

[lilac bramble]

New lawsuit coming lol

[tardy charm]

something tells me the fab employees won't get to go home tonight

[drowsy plaza]

if they can get it fixed by thursday then hopefully tim gives them a 3 day weekend after the launch. its probably good they didnt launch on friday

[tardy charm]

ok, i managed to get around not being able to authenticate. I was logged in to FAB on my laptop since this morning so I just copied over the cookies from there

it seems like they fixed the problem where the website breaks if you log in, but now the problem is you cannot log in

[lilac bramble]

Ah, smort, I gotta do the same

[flat pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[tardy charm]

yeah if you F12 and go to the storage tab, you'll see 3 json fields, i just copied over all 3 of those values to my main pc

[lilac bramble]

Bless your soul

[gusty bison]

its probably getting absolutely hammered as more users check it out

[tardy charm]

Yep, the authentication is dead now, if you have logged in on another device or browser before, you can try and copy over the cookies

oh wow, very obvious AI content (literally says AI in the description) but the seller didn't mark it as AI

[trail heron]

report it.

[lilac bramble]

Which ones you got?

[tardy charm]

hold on

these 3 are what i copied, i don't know which one did it

[gusty bison]

so if you filter for UE Marketplace License, is that basically the assets that didnt do the fab migration yet? (ie the abandoned ones)

‼️ hey yall, whatever you do, do not post screenshots of the cookie values

[tardy charm]

these are not values

they are keys

[gusty bison]

i know

im trying to prevent it

[lilac bramble]

Thank you! That did the trick

[gusty bison]

tbf youd have to do a lot to manage to screenshot the whole thing but

[tardy charm]

currently, copying cookes is the only way to log into fab on another device lol, their auth servers are flooded or something

[gusty bison]

yep, ive been following along 🙂

[strong goblet]

I feel like we really need the plugin rn, Tim

[lilac bramble]

So I was able to login and claim Megascans assets, but looking at the library all of the free giveaway assets and plugins are gone...

[strong goblet]

everything is fine

[gusty bison]

it takes some time for them to show up

[tardy charm]

the library takes a while to sync

[gusty bison]

itll be there eventually

[lilac bramble]

Oh I'm sure it will

[tardy charm]

it took up to an hour for some people

[gusty bison]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-everybody-stay-calm-michael-scott-stay-calm-dont-panic-gif-17890664

[odd badge]

ayyyy works for me now too

[lilac bramble]

ayyyy

[undone valve]

Yes

[tardy charm]

seems like it still got that issue where if you scroll too fast, the list gets a seizure

[undone valve]

Now I known what not to buy

[undone valve]

Why though?

[tardy charm]

because they contain special tokens that might grant someone full access to your account

[flat island]

I use it in my game

[tardy charm]

Oh no

[undone valve]

Bruh fr? I thought that is safe (I shared them before but on some site I dont care about)

[undone valve]

There are plenty of these assets.

[tardy charm]

the keys are fine it's just a label but the values can contain sensitive info. So don't do that again

[flat island]

Red Cross 😬

more

[undone valve]

Bruh. That is all not allowed to be used

What is a "Smart Asset"?

[tardy charm]

they all got merged from sketchfab

someone needs to manually go through and filter them out

[trail heron]

lol u don't say xD

[flat island]

3d models

[trail heron]

sketchfab is notoriously filled with sketchy assets, copyright infringements, stolen assets.

[undone valve]

wdym

[tardy charm]

Yeah i still cant fathom why they included sketchfab in the merge

[trail heron]

which that its not allowed.

[trail heron]

because it saves epic alot of money

[undone valve]

Why are these Smart Assets them? Are they just blueprints or what?

[trail heron]

https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/smart-asset-plugin/1277910

[gusty bison]

what if I'm selling dumb blueprints

[trail heron]

then you just sell them as 3d models, environments or tools whichever is most appropriate.

[tardy charm]

damn they dont have dumb assets, how dare they

[trail heron]

yeh thats not pc bro.

[undone valve]

So they are just blueprints at the end of the day? Editor tools

[covert frigate]

I can't be the only one highly concerned about what just happened. $100k cap on revenue and $1000+ retroactive licenses? As a business owner making money in this industry I'm rethinking Unreal altogether at the moment.

[undone valve]

What are you talking about right there?

[covert frigate]

What do you mean? I'm talking about the fact that this Fab update might have just killed my profit margin and now I'm looking at other engines.

[trail heron]

you get the license that is applicable at the time of purchase, there is nothing retroactive. if your company grows only newly acquired assets will need to be purchased as pro.

[gusty bison]

uhh

yeah epic specifically pointed that out recently in some clarifications

[tame compass]

wanna ask if i want to make personal sales do i have to contact unreal marketplace team ?

[covert frigate]

I saw many people saying that if you make above $100k the you have to get the new license

[gusty bison]

no

[tame compass]

or its not possible ?

[gusty bison]

epic themselves said that's not required, only that you pick the right license when you buy something

[trail heron]

assets you acquired on a personal license and are using while below the 100k threshold don't have to be repurchased even if the project grows. if your company has grown to be above the 100k threshold and you start a new project you'd have to acquire the now appropriate license.

[undone valve]

Nope. You own both on products purchase on the UE marketplace

These people told you trash

[gusty bison]

new project? the fab licenses are per project? or do you just mean if you don't already own something

[undone valve]

What are "personal sales"?

[undone valve]

The fab licesnes are per seat, not per project

[gusty bison]

maybe out of store, but then give the person a redemption code? is that it?

[tardy charm]

wait.... no way... the order of these are inconsistent?

Why?

[undone valve]

Yep. Worst bug

[gusty bison]

a/b testing 😈

[undone valve]

I needed to do that on the UE marketplace at least.

[undone valve]

hahahaha

[flat island]

I have a strange feeling that sales will decline

[trail heron]

to really simplify it, you have to buy the license that is appropriate at the time of purchase. from then onward you can freely use them. if you at some point grow beyond the 100k threshold and you transition to >100k. the assets you purchased prior are still valid and licensed but NEW assets you will have to purchase the pro license.

[undone valve]

Still dont know what you mean by that btw 😄

[covert frigate]

Does $100k revenue mean $100k revenue just with Unreal. If I make $100k with CryEngine and $10k with Unreal that still counts as professional?

[wooden spruce]

so i'm hoping I'm missing something but I want to put a megascans material in an unreal scene. I used to just use bridge but now its redirecting me to fab, and giving me the option to download all the individual parts (bump, diffuse, etc) ? there's no longer a one click download / import solution?

[undone valve]

I also do. As the discoverability got way worse due to a flood of shady assets

[undone valve]

Currently there is not so it seems

[strong goblet]

you can get back the Bridge plugin

[flat island]

for the next 2 weeks I anticipate 0 sales or maybe 1

[strong goblet]

that's what I've done anyways

[wooden spruce]

wow

[trail heron]

i don't understand how you don't. they posted a bunch of copyrighted assets, you said its not allowed. i affirmed that statement by saying "you don't say" because i agree but also because its pretty egregious copyright infringement and its fairly obvious.

[gusty bison]

You are only eligible for a Personal - Reference Only tier or Personal tier if, at the time of the Transaction you, together with any controlling entity and other entities under common control with you, have not generated more than $100,000 USD in gross revenue from your commercial activity in the digital content industry in the last 12 months. For purposes of this calculation, revenue includes any advances received or other funds raised. If you complete a Transaction for a License Tier you were not eligible for at the time of purchase, you must, upon request, pay Epic the remainder of what you would have owed had you purchased a License Tier you were eligible for.

(FAB EULA)

[undone valve]

I will not buy anything. That is clear. I already heard people having products with there purchased products... They dont show up in their library and they cant access it and stuff

[gusty bison]

so yes it includes other engine revenue

[fervent hinge]

yeah I was just about to ask if anyone else was having trouble with things not appearing in their library/vault

[tardy charm]

it takes a while for it to load

[trail heron]

so.... make a small company. buy a shit load of assets. then get acquired by a big game dev 😄 profit.

[flat island]

I'll buy something next week

[tardy charm]

mine have already loaded

[wooden spruce]

surely they can't thought removing the importability of bridge in ue5 with manually downloading / importing from fab was a good idea

[fervent hinge]

oh okay interesting, hopefully it will appear for me soon

[undone valve]

Ahh okay. My bad. English isnt my native language. I dont think many people know that the red cross is copyrighted though

[trail heron]

thats temporary untill the fab integrated UE plugin is released.

[tardy charm]

apparently there's gonna be a fab plugin but currently it doesn't exist so at least it's not gonna be for long term

[gusty bison]

yeah but since it says controlling orgs etc, someone could only do this once and only if they don't have another business that would be included

[wooden spruce]

but theres no way to do it today?

[gusty bison]

well-- multiple times I guess as long as they sell it I dunno

[undone valve]

They also removed written reviews and questions so...

[strong goblet]

you can use the old Bridge plugin

[covert frigate]

I am not liking this roll out at all. I don't know if any of you are business owners, but this is objectively bad. It's unprofessional. I'm shifting resources away from Unreal regardless of what anyone thinks, this is bad. Alarm bells are going off and I have alternatives.

[fluid mountain]

is that even legal? I thought those models are own by Nintendo no?

[tame compass]

is fab team and unreal marketplace team the same ?

or fab team doesnt formed yet ?

or using unreal marketplace team instead ?

[trail heron]

if you are not legally connected to the acquiring company, yeah. its a niche loophole but a loophole nonetheless

[undone valve]

I think there are overlaps but it istn fully the same. The Fab team has 11-50 members: https://www.linkedin.com/company/fabofficial/

[last matrix]

yeah, I'm not hopefull at this time, there is just so much junk assets on the store now

[gusty bison]

not much is changing here, other than the fact that an asset MAY choose to have a different price for you to pay. Many assets have the same price for both tiers, or, confusingly, a smaller price for professional

[wooden spruce]

how do I downgrade my bridge plugin?

[strong goblet]

get it from github

[gusty bison]

true, thanks to sketch fab. filter for unreal formats and they mostly go away for now

[covert frigate]

The $100k cap compared against the prices they're charging annihilates profit margins. The entire point of Unreal was high profit margins and it just evaporated.

[gusty bison]

the prices that the asset authors are charging you mean

[candid rivet]

remove ai junk. replace with manmade junk.

[strong goblet]

but regardless we do really need this plugin, Tim ... 👀

[trail heron]

honestly seeing the terrible shit from sketchfab on FAB with all the copyright, stolen assets, poorly managed licenses, ripped assets. i have next to no trust to buy nearly anything on FAB without being worried.

[undone valve]

I would wait a bit and see how things develop. But if you have alternatives then go for it if you want 🙂

[gusty bison]

thankfully we have an AI filter now, so that's something

it's day 1 people, don't give yourselves high blood pressure

maybe start a zen garden or watch a funny movie

[covert frigate]

Like I said I'm shifting resources away. It's basic business sense. I went with Unreal because it seemed to enable developers with a high profit margin. This unprofessional rollout, with this terrible marketplace, with junk assets, ridiculously low cap... there's nothing good about this. At all. It's what professionals call regression, we just took a giant step backwards, including the people selling assets on the store.

[trail heron]

if you are basing your profit margins on fab prices you got bigger issues honestly. and probably are below the 100k threshold to begin with.

[covert frigate]

I'm basing it on an aggregate analysis of all the factors. Like I said, there's nothing good here. It's a regression. We didn't get value.

[undone valve]

But I mean where do you want to shift your resources to? Unity also got Profferional pricing. Godot has no marketplace? Cryengine also doesnt?

[covert frigate]

CryEngine

[strong goblet]

the value is a way to import assets directly into the engine, a merging of Sketchfab into said marketplace, a "no AI filter", more options I guess

[wooden spruce]

clowns at epic for updating the bridge app but not having a workaround readily available

[candid rivet]

it's day 3000 of the unreal marketplace, we see how awesome that is 😂

[trail heron]

if yo are over the 100k threshold and the prices are too high you should be developing them in house, or hire someone to do so. if that will cost you more than the price on fab... wellll the problem isn't the pricing of peoples products.

[tardy charm]

anyone find it a little stupid that you can't open an asset on a new tab or you know, copy the URL by r-clicking on the thumbnail. You HAVE to r-click on the name. Just a minor nitpick because I keep opening the images of stuff im interested on new tabs instead of the product itself

[undone valve]

I like CryEngine but where do you get assets from there?

[gusty bison]

asset flippers do be mad huh

[undone valve]

True 100% imo

[undone valve]

Yeah its annoying af

[gusty bison]

yes, take a chill out

[undone valve]

I dont want to be that guy but if you dont use many marketplace assets and you make over 100k a year. Why does it matter if you pay a couple bucks more for an asset?

[trail heron]

the value is one unified marketplace of what used to be multiple stores, with full integration into the engine. exposing more clients to more sellers. that is what the users of FAB get out of it. for UE devs its not much more than what the marketplace was and it isn't supposed to be.

[gusty bison]

||and someone had to say it||

[strong goblet]

^ and while it's funny to dunk on some of this, it's not exactly "ez af" to roll this kinda thing out

[undone valve]

True but its a billion dollar company

[gusty bison]

turns out paying a billion dollars of engineers does not make it billion percent better

weird

give it some time

[trail heron]

i'd recommend some anger management therapy if you get that worked up over things honestly. i don't even mean htat in a toxic or bad way. thats just terrible for your mental health.

[undone valve]

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-spongebob-squarepants-dreams-magic-gif-12725683

[gusty bison]

UM sucked pretty bad, the hope here is that well actually get feedback implemented since it's new

[trail heron]

ubisoft is still trying to crack that nut though.

[undone valve]

I need a Ubisoft asset store ngl

[candid rivet]

were you here when epic asked for feedback at the start of the store through filling out a form and then prompty did nothing about it? pepperidge farms remembers

[wooden spruce]

where the quixel bridge github

[trail heron]

lmao. you need AAAA assets for way too much money?

[wooden spruce]

just removed the plugin now have no way of reinstalling

[gusty bison]

that tracks-- they probably were like "yeah! great idea! let's go look at this codebase and... oh God"

[wooden spruce]

materials not working 😭

[trail heron]

that plugin will be deprecated, its being replaced with the fab one #soon

[undone valve]

Yep. Gotta pay a couple thousand dollars + a subscription + a asset (battle) pass for some buggy assets

An asset pass. that is what wee need

These are the creators of Fortnite

So...

An Asset Pass

[gusty bison]

the way I know the UM codebase was a complete disaster is because this is a hard cutover

[wooden spruce]

yea but in the meantime im in the middle of the workday, no way to get it back?

[gusty bison]

you don't do that unless there are serious complications to having them both open

[fervent hinge]

dont give them any ideas

[trail heron]

i wish ubisoft would just go back to what they used to do which was making epic looking environments with pretty decent gameplay.

[strong goblet]

UE source repo

[tardy charm]

https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/tree/release/Engine/Plugins/Bridge

in the source repo

[undone valve]

Bruh you making it worse 😭

[wooden spruce]

404 error

[candid rivet]

need to be logged into github

[wooden spruce]

yep just ruined a project file lol

[strong goblet]

its about to be 10x worse when he realises he needs to compile it 😭

[tardy charm]

you need your github linked with epic games

[wooden spruce]

lol

[trail heron]

you need to tie your github and epic account

[wooden spruce]

i'm in danger

[hardy solar]

Is it actually possible to use Fab from Epic Launcher, or do I have to go to website each time?

[trail heron]

thats been that way for like half a year now

[flat island]

Send me some interesting assets

[undone valve]

Website

[tardy charm]

yeah he gonna have to recompile this lol, there's no built files on here

just the source

[trail heron]

it will become an integrated plugin in the engine, and the page withing egs will get changed but both are still under development.

[undone valve]

Okay:

[flat island]

No

Normal asset

[tardy charm]

Mario Bros and there's only just Mario

[undone valve]

Environments, Plugins, ??

[flat island]

Plugin

Or BP

[undone valve]

Okay wait.

I got some good ones

[candid rivet]

they

[wooden spruce]

alright so who wants to make $25 in BTC walking my through this

[hearty swallow]

Nintendo reaction:

[wooden spruce]

DM me

[trail heron]

you want a naked low quality model of jennifer lawrence with shady copyright?

[undone valve]

There are so many Nintendo assets on the store it is crazy

[undone valve]

through what?

[undone valve]

hahahaha

[wooden spruce]

I need to add the previous version of quixel bridge back in

[trail heron]

go to your trash can and revert deleted files 😄

[flat island]

No 😅 normal good NEW Plugin

Really

[undone valve]

Ouh right. Uhm. I can send you the plugin for UE5.0 if you need it

[wooden spruce]

sounds easy enough

just take the keylogger out of it

[tardy charm]

I mean, I too have it installed but technically you shouldn't trust a random guy on the internet to send you files

[undone valve]

NEW ones? Not many new ones here

[drowsy plaza]

With sketchfab users ripping out assets from packaged commercial games, fab may have what you need

[flat island]

Or BP

[undone valve]

Wise.

[undone valve]

hahaha 😄

[undone valve]

But plugins for what? To help you developing, game mechanics, ?

[flat island]

I looked through FAB and didn't find anything interesting

[trail heron]

i install stuff from a dude named gaben all the time, kinda sketch but he kinda looks like a worn down santa so i give him a pass.

[flat island]

Game mechanic, performance

[candid rivet]

turbosquid+

[drowsy plaza]

Ngl a gamepass style thing for assets could be cool if creators of those assets are paid for it

[undone valve]

Yeah. I buy things called "CSGO cases"

[undone valve]

It would actually. Or an advent calendar

[tame compass]

marketplace team looks busy

[trail heron]

what marketplace team?

[undone valve]

Aight. Give me a couple of minutes. I went through the whole marketplace ones so i know a few

[trail heron]

the licensing on that doesn't really make any sense for game dev assets.

[tame compass]

i guess they still use marketplace team support

[undone valve]

Thats the autmatic message they always sent you

[trail heron]

lol is it really? thats fucked

[tame compass]

so which @ i must sent to apply personal sales ?

[trail heron]

wut?

[undone valve]

Dont know I always sent it to: [e-mail]

[drowsy plaza]

I don’t think you can do discounts on fab yet

[wooden spruce]

what directory are the quixel plugin files in ?

[fresh sphinx]

I recently tried requesting a sale for a few of my products on fab and this is the email I received back

[flat island]

It's a bit unfair that they put on the main page sellers who have been on the EU Marketplace for a long time

[tame compass]

oh

[drowsy plaza]

Support.fab.com is the irl though

[undone valve]

yeah you must wait 30 days anyways

[tame compass]

looks like no money for another month

[tame compass]

also this

[undone valve]

They had a head start as they already sold on UEFN

And they want to make money

[drowsy plaza]

Do you only make money during sales? Maybe adjust your pricing and SEO if that’s the case, you should be selling at full price several times a month

In my experience discounts are just extra sales

[undone valve]

I sell some assets at full price nearly daily

[tame compass]

sales mean product get highlight

[wooden spruce]

Bumping this up to $50 in BTC if anyone can help out ASAP

[undone valve]

But now there are algorithms showing your product wihtout sales

[drowsy plaza]

Use the freelance part of the discord for job postings. Also maybe use actual currency if you are gonna hire people

[trail heron]

shiiii, gotta be dogecoin though else i aint interested xD

[wooden spruce]

its 10 minutes of tech support not really "hiring"

[drowsy plaza]

Yep plus search seems to be better if the AI can pick up what your asset is about

[flat island]

What, for example

[tame compass]

selling scifi spaceship

[undone valve]

I dont find the assets anymore which I wanted to share.

[tame compass]

my specialty

[flat island]

Ok

[trail heron]

that mean the search sucks tbh 😛

[tame compass]

do people still buy 3d models

[undone valve]

True. On the marketplace i found everything

[undone valve]

https://www.fab.com/listings/c979e063-985b-4ea5-9fbb-bef1340b6a1c This sells very very well

[trail heron]

no.

[tame compass]

I guess smart asset

[undone valve]

Sometimes but only in rare cases. I recently bought a door bell model for example as i didnt have time to make it myself

[tame compass]

3d modeler seller wither 100 or go 0

😭

[undone valve]

Make full environments. Thats the deal. They are making bags

[drowsy plaza]

For environments or weapons yeah, for hero characters probably less likely since those are usually used in marketing

[trail heron]

the problem with single models is that if you buy a whole bunch from different sellers they often end up just not quite going together and stuff looks off.
asset packs, environments etc. are far more enticing

[wooden spruce]

$100 btc if anyone can asap tech support getting the quixel bridge plugin reinstalled, DM me

[undone valve]

Why is it that important to you ?

[wooden spruce]

cause i'm in the middle of the work day and my project isn't working since the plugin is removed

need to get this fixed for end of day renders

[trail heron]

which UE version?

[wooden spruce]

5.3.2

[trail heron]

ew

heres 5.4 xD

[strong goblet]

1. pull source
2. copy to Engine\Plugins
3. open UE5.sln
4. hit F5
5. open project

[wooden spruce]

dm me

[pulsar nova]

uff, already got someone spamming hundreds of articles for diffusion generated music with the checkmark saying it's not (almost all lofi since it's harder to tell)
https://www.fab.com/sellers/MOOB MUSIC

[undone valve]

Bruh. These AI kids always think they make bugs but no one buys this shit

[hearty olive]

Please check out my plugin 🙏 I am a fool

If you ever are making a stealth game you might really enjoy this!

[dire meteor]

Please check out the rules and delete your post?

[undone valve]

Not allowed

[hearty olive]

Oh fr fr ok!

[tardy charm]

oh, i found the asset someone was talking about with the mixed up license prices

[undone valve]

Many assets have that

[trail heron]

theres multiple.

[tardy charm]

oh damn

[trail heron]

nothing stops you from getting the pro license if you are below the 100k threshold tho

the other way around would be more problematic.

[trail heron]

i might also have the 5.3.2 files on my NAS but i'll doublecheck.

[wooden spruce]

dm me any relevant info

[trail heron]

well i already posted the full 5.4 plugin files from the engine plugin folder, you could try that.

[wooden spruce]

what directory should i put that in?

[trail heron]

C:\Program Files\Epic Games\UE_5.4\Engine\Plugins

in ur case 5.3.2 but not sure if its compatible.

i doubt it

[undone valve]

How do i remove assets from my libary. I accidentally added some creative commons ones and i dont want to get things mixed up

[trail heron]

u cant.

[undone valve]

bruh+

I cant even filter them out...

[undone valve]

bruh. Can you send me the link to that please

[candid rivet]

couple more q's. what is "Smart Assets"? is there a New tab/section?

[undone valve]

Blueprints basically

[candid rivet]

ah thanks

[wooden spruce]

failed to load

[trail heron]

got the 5.3 one from my nas

[undone valve]

Why are there no decals anymore?

Also, how do I see wheter I purchased the proffesional license or the personal one?

[strong goblet]

sorry I only have >5.4 binaries for it so you need to compile it yourself

[flat island]

You have both

[wooden spruce]

it worked you beautiful bastard! DM your BTC address

[strong goblet]

I did look tho

[trail heron]

i aint got a btc address what do i look like a cryptobro? xD

[undone valve]

I dont. Thats the think. I just got the personal one for free and the professional one costs

[tardy charm]

"decals" are one of the new categories so none of the assets have that tag

[undone valve]

But decals also exsted on the UE marketplace`?

[pulsar nova]

yea but it was a tag

they were under materials or textures

[tardy charm]

Yes but the Category did not exist, they were listed under materials or textures, so check there instead

yeah pretty much what Scaith and I said

[wooden spruce]

find a friend with a btc wallet you earned the bounty for your work

[undone valve]

So I just cant see whether I got the personal or the professional one?

[trail heron]

consider it a freebie 😛

its all good.

[trail heron]

doesn't matter, so long as what you purchased atthe time was correct.

[undone valve]

But when I eventually reach the 100k I need to know what I initially purchased. As if the professional price is cheaper than the personal one then I can purchase that or no? Or do i need to purchase the personal one?

[trail heron]

the license is indefinite, only your financial status at the time of purchase matters.

[undone valve]

But If I am below 100k and own the professional one, do i also need to own the personal one?

[trail heron]

if you grow beyond 100k revenue/year, but purchased a personal license when you were below it your license is still perfectly valid.

[undone valve]

No but what if I did it vise versa

And havent reached the 100k yet

[trail heron]

i don't know for absolute certain. but it shouldn't matter.

[undone valve]

I hope so

[trail heron]

if you can get it cheaper on the pro license that should still be valid for personal use normally.

in practice that never happens because pro licenses are always more cuz theyre targetted at businesses.

[drowsy plaza]

So will sales and reports go through the old publisher portal until they add the new one or are we without knowing sales on fab until end of the month?

[undone valve]

They should show on the old portal, especially if you already were a seller on there

[undone valve]

Can you send me a link to that please?

[trail heron]

https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/fab-list-of-known-issues-at-launch/2080070

[undone valve]

Thank you

@charred mica This might interest you. You said your product got stuck, right?

[charred mica]

I don't think it was the Latin issue, it's something else. Just got a mail that they found the issue and are fixing it but also, I found many people with the same issue : https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/unable-to-submit-update-draft/2072665/5

They said : Our devs are working to correct this issue as quickly as possible.

[undone valve]

Ahh okay. Good to know! Mine was also stuck a few days but eventually it just got uploaded

[trail heron]

btw if you still want to send that 100, feel free to send it here.
https://www.savethechildren.org/us/ways-to-help/ways-to-give/ways-to-help/cryptocurrency-donation

[patent tendon]

So, I am not sure I understand the wording on Megascans

After 2024 do we keep the Megascans we already claimed on Fab or do they go away? Basically they want us to download an insane amount of data to keep the assets?

[trail heron]

you keep the ones you've claimed

u can claim them all in 1 click on the fab homepage.

[patent tendon]

if we use the claim tool on fab, do we keep all the claimed assets into 2025 and beyond?

[trail heron]

yes.

[patent tendon]

Or do we have to actually download them now so we keep them in them in our storage spaces

[trail heron]

https://www.fab.com/megascans-free

read the faq

[patent tendon]

What i am confused about is this, if we use the claim tool. in 2025 will the option to download the stuff we claim now be gone? basically we have to download everything now

the faq is confusing me a lot on this because of the wording.

[tardy charm]

Claim Now -> Keep them in your account forever
Don't Claim -> Becomes paid after 2024 ends

The description is very confusing but if you scroll down, this question answers your concerns

Think of all the megascans assets right now as free for the month assets, except that they will be at 100% off until the end of 2024

that's the best I can explain it

[undone valve]

I created a Trello board for Fab. Anything to add?https://trello.com/b/wQTxckhe

[tardy charm]

Option to hide owned assets from the listing similar to how AI stuff can be hidden

Wishlist (though they're already working on this one)

[undone valve]

Will add that!

[undone valve]

Got that already!

This one too:

[tardy charm]

oh yeah that too

[untold bay]

• Restore publisher name in search results
• Restore middle/right click functionality on product thumbnails
• Restore zoom on screenshots
• Restore large clickable area for previous/next screenshot

[undone valve]

Thank you.

1. What do you mean by restore? Were we able to directly search for sellers on the UE marketplace?
2. Will add that
3. Will add that
4. Will add that

[gusty bison]

catching up on the chaos since I've been busy. I'm shocked people preferred to use UM in the absolutely acerbic webview that was the Epic launcher's implementation

[untold bay]

Seller names used to appear in search results. Now they don't

[gusty bison]

I stopped doing that a long long time ago

[undone valve]

Interesting. Okay, will add that too

Ahh these ones

Right okay. yeah

[tardy charm]

yeah, now you have to like hover on some tiny icon to see the seller name

which is pretty horrible if you're skimming through the list

[untold bay]

i didn't even notice that was there, and yeah, it's a bad experience

[tardy charm]

if you're on a specific seller's page, it won't show that icon, maybe that's why you didn't notice it. Then again, even in the normal listing, it is very small

[gusty bison]

nice idea @undone valve there's a lot of unruly feedback to smooth in here, the board is a good idea

[undone valve]

Yeah it was awful

[undone valve]

Thank you 😄 Now we just need to make people aware of the board to expand it. I will definitely sent this to the Fab team soon

[gusty bison]

wow what a day for this channel so far

[hearty sierra]

Which "license tier" applies after claiming Megascans assets? it just state "You will get the assets under the Fab Standard License" no info about license tier

[undone valve]

Its just the first day, yeah. Its incredible how active this channel was today and I followed along every conversation!

[gusty bison]

the license applies at the time of the transaction. Personal and Professional licenses have the exact same usage rights

So does it really matter considering Epic doesn't give you an option?

All of Megascans is free for both <$100k and over $100k until the end of the year

[final zinc]

I hope that includes content from the lists we already had

like many, I didn't even think to keep track of that just in case

[gusty bison]

and they seem to have noticed people automating purchases of Megascans content en masse prior to fab launch, since that's exactly what the Claim All is doing lol

[trail heron]

ability to sort by "recently updated" as well as filtering by products you have actually used/downloaded. and sorting by when you last downloaded them.

also a distincion in filtering out all NSFW content or just sexual NSFW content.

[gusty bison]

oh so they put violent stuff next to sexual NSFW? oof

[trail heron]

the license tier doesn't matter after acquisition, so long as you buy the appropriate tier for your financial situation at the time of purchase, for quixel content(while it is still free) there are no tiers and you will be allowed to use the assets without having to fall within any specific tier at any given point in time.

[gusty bison]

does fab remember what license level option you've picked prior? considering this is something that applies to all purchases, wouldn't it make more sense to have this be an account level thing, that they perhaps confirm on each purchase in case it's changed?

[undone valve]

Great, will add that

[undone valve]

This is also great

[gusty bison]

edited to be clearer in context

[trail heron]

that would be a nice feature tbh. not having to pick individually each time. but its a very minor feature imo.

[gusty bison]

yeah, just seems like it wouldve been baked if this license level thing was decided early

[undone valve]

Alright. I think I got nearly every bug & feature request from today now

[gusty bison]

guessing they had a lot of curveball changes on the way to launch

[undone valve]

I am going to sleep now. Feel free to ping me when someone has a good idea or a bug

[gusty bison]

somewhat disappointing that it seems the 3d preview options are picked by the publisher

i imagined something different, that you could click through the uassets and the ones that were models would just render for you -- not that a publisher can choice pick one or two models to be shown in the carousel

one of the biggest things that makes 3d models useless for a use case is that they are open backed-- limiting what you can do with them massively

https://www.fab.com/listings/57991a62-f98f-4c6a-9b94-a74ec12f242e like here, the bar preview model

see its open at the bottom

but if vendors can just pick a few choice closed models and show them

then its not useful as a purchaser

(tbf nowadays you can fix this directly in the UE modelling tools [though not convincingly in all cases] but thats another matter)

[next badge]

dang seems like few download path for version 5.3-5.4 of my assets were lost.. dang it ive deleted that version of my plugin due to storage capacity now i have to redo it again

😦

major QOL stuffs in there too like icons, thumbnail bugfixes

didnt realise i never back it up in any version control either

[astral finch]

did the liked product section from marketplace get removed in the fab?

[hearty sierra]

in fab faq "under which license ....", there is a link to fab eula doc, i read it, and get confused, haha, so i don't know if i can legally use it 😫

[untold bay]

• Sort "Supported engine versions" descending rather than ascending so 5.4 is at the top, not 4.0
• Allow searching for multiple categories simultaneously (because it's not obvious even to the creators how to categorize products)

[odd onyx]

All my favorites from Unreal marketplace are gone and Fab search sucks

[astral finch]

yes was looking if my favs were gone or not too aha

[trail heron]

the fab fuzzy search is definitely a bit erm... too fuzzy

[odd onyx]

I had so many for some diff projects that I'll never find again

Yesterday I was searching for metahumans so I typed in met and added the tag clothing and had the complete list. Now I type in meta and get it only for things with it in the title and there is no category for clothing so pages of 3d models and textures and sounds I don't wanna look at. Is so bad

I literally dunno how to find all those assets now. I'm not gonna go through 100+ pages of sound packs

[undone valve]

You can write to support. They will give you an pdf of your wishlist

[odd onyx]

Good idea. Thank you

[undone valve]

Great! Will add these tomorrow

[odd onyx]

Do yk their email?

nvm found it. For anyone else: https://support.fab.com/s/?ProductOrigin=FabSupport

[astral depot]

• Team/Organization access to an account… how this is not implemented while per seat pricing is is… insane.
• ability to actually pay per seat??? how can it be per seat and only a single purchase option -.-
• Account setting to set default seat type
• Add to library directly from card without going into details - it now takes a minimum of 25 clicks to add all 5 free for the month items.

• fix the eula since it currently says explicitly that all plugins can only be editor tools

[misty crag]

ok the new licencing options are.... bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw-7rSvAHnw

Click here and claim everything https://www.fab.com/megascans-free

[rigid girder]

Can you no longer update your listing without having to submit for review? Text, Images, etc. 🤔

[trail heron]

why do you think they are bad?

[dense drift]

I tried logging into FAB, but I after I do I receive this error. I've tried it in a private tab, cleared cookies and cache, turned off extensions, but nothing seems to be working

[tardy charm]

sometimes if the servers get overwhelmed it does this

it happened to me for like 5 hours this morning

seems like it's still good for me so I'm not affected this time

[drowsy plaza]

Why is there so much cynicism around fab, I am really liking the new change. Most the stuff I see people mad about either doesn’t really affect them or are really trivial things that don’t matter too much like wishlisting stuff you won’t buy for 12 months or reading that a UE4 plugin isn’t supported anymore in a review.

Search has been vastly improved for discovery, the new infinite scrolling is better than 500 pages, sellers have to worry less about 1 or 2 bad ratings tanking their sales, you can filter AI now, and the website has been faster than the marketplace one. Overall this seems like a really good step forward

[hollow zephyr]

huh guess it's still a lil rough https://support.fab.com/s/article/How-to-view-your-Sales-Monthly-Reports-and-Payouts

[misty crag]

if i made 100k... then suddenly everything in my library becomes illegal to use... and its a mad rush to figure out what.

[trail heron]

calling the fuzzy search an improvement is.... a statement.

[tardy charm]

It's mostly just like people on twitter and reddit. Those folks are always that way.

[misty crag]

sometimes i use just 1 vfx out of a pack of 100... but IF i knew i had to pay 100x that once i made 100k... i would not use it at all

[trail heron]

this is not true. the licenses remain perfectly valid. the only thing that matters is the financial status at the time of acquisition.

[misty crag]

it says for the last 12 months.

[drowsy plaza]

I have much better discovery now, a few months ago I needed some skyscraper assets and one search on fab pointed me exactly what I needed as where the marketplace gave me “no results found” or “here is this 300 dollar pack that isn’t really about skyscrapers”

[trail heron]

at the time of acquisition of the license. not at the time of using the asset

[drowsy plaza]

I’m seeing it on the forums but the unreal subreddit is really toxic right now. I’m very happy with the change

[misty crag]

i see.

well... this is why it is confusing

[trail heron]

if you have perchased something on a valid personal license and after the fact start to earn over 100k the license is still valid.

[misty crag]

in any case... anything i bought from the old marketplace.. is still bound by old marketplace TOS.

[drowsy plaza]

I ended up having to pay a 3d modeler because I couldn’t find what I needed in the marketplace but on fab I can now

[rigid girder]

How do you view purchases/payouts/etc in the new system?

[trail heron]

it really isn't. you just check your finances at the time of purchasing and then never again. if you are 100% certain you are below 100k, you buy the personal license and don't think about it anymore untill you pass 100k revenue upon which point you only need to worry about buying the pro license on things you buy AFTER that.

[ebon urchin]

Just realized that with Epic Games changing over to Fab, my Unreal Marketplace wishlist has been completely nuked. Is there any way to get it back to look the items up on Fab?
there was stuff I was super interested and I'm feeling sad that I might not find it again.

Also... does Fab not have a wishlist feature? I'm finding things I might want once I have income to support it, but can't find any way to follow a creator or to wishlist an item.
I also can't find any way to browse for full projects on Fab.

I'm already missing Quixel Bridge... I don't know how this is going to work for adding assets to projects / checking and filtering things. The profile is a nightmare.

Anyone else running into these issues or have advice? Is Epic taking feedback somewhere?

[trail heron]

you can send them an email to get your wishlist as a PDF

[misty crag]

have never released a UE game.. si at 0k right now 😄

[drowsy plaza]

The new fab search must be using AI or something because it recognizes normal language. You can type “lawn grass pack” and it will find assets to build a home lawn, on the marketplace it didn’t work that well for stuff like that

[tardy charm]

Most of the toxicity, at least on reddit, seems to be around the fact that the libraries take a while to load. People don't give it a few hours to let it sync and started acting like epic just took all their shit away

[drowsy plaza]

True

[trail heron]

as for bridge, i'd wait for the fab plugin to launch to pass judgement tbh.

[drowsy plaza]

It took until about noon for my library to load and even longer for the categories to work in the library.

[misty crag]

all my stuff shows up in the vault...

all the thousands of things

[drowsy plaza]

Yeah they were working in the vault, I meant in the fab website

[trail heron]

so, once you become a big shot dev making over 100k in the past 12 months you start buying pro licenses instead of personal ones. beyond that you don't have to worry about it.

[tardy charm]

funny you say that because it even knows if you made a typo. Actually I think you brought that up this morning

[misty crag]

yes all of MY things are showing up in the fab vault

[drowsy plaza]

My only gripe with fab is the library requiring you to hop between chrome and the launcher unguided

[tardy charm]

they did say it'll be integrated Soon™️

[drowsy plaza]

Yeah, I was searching for my products and I accidently did some typos and it still found them at the top which was awesome.

I think fab just uses SEO a lot more, so ranking works more like Google

[trail heron]

it uses both fuzzy search and algorithmic search through both title and description. its just not great when u are looking for something very specific because it will give a bunch of "not quite" results.

[misty crag]

so the only "Missing" feature is we can't grab them from the launcher right now?

[drowsy plaza]

Is “fuzzy search” a real technical term or are you making it up?

[trail heron]

the launcher and the UE integration are both still to be released, theres also another list of known issues pinned. and obviously a bunch of features people think should be added, some more valid then others

[trail heron]

that is a real term.

[drowsy plaza]

I have not had any issues finding specific assets I know the name of tbh. After typing in mine they all showed up, using keywords they showed up, and using description like “skyscraper pack” worked as well

[sick star]

yep, example is the Levenshtein algorithm

[drowsy plaza]

I think products that rely extensively on made up marketing mubojumbo will probably do worse on fab though, SEO seems to be key here

[echo egret]

I just updated the launcher and still nothing appears even after hitting the Refresh button. Then I checked opening a project for the FAB plugin from within and it doesn't appear listed. Is it installed by default and cannot be removed? How are we supposed to find a "download/install new asset from library" option from the editor? I really hope these questions are addressed soon, because the fact I cannot do anything at all is starting to effect my workflow badly.

[misty crag]

those 2 features are gone for now

have to download from fab website vault

[tardy charm]

The FAB plugin doesn't exist right now, they are working on it. It will come Soon™️

[trail heron]

the trust i have in buying assets on fab has gone down considerably with the merge of sketchfab though cuz sketchfab assets are as the name implies quite sketchy, lots of copyrighted works, shady practices, ripped/stolen assets, low quality material. andwhen i say copyrighted works i mean there is anything from copyrighted art, stock photos with not included and undisclosed licenses, IP violations against companies like nintendo.

so that definitely isn't great.

[echo egret]

I just saw the vault is now showing my stuff now, thanks. I'll try to see how it works now.

[misty crag]

yeah people selling "fan art" and "stolen assets" on sketchfab... always been sketchy

[trail heron]

theres also lots of copyrighted images and textures being used on 3d models, which means even if the model is unique its still a huge risk.

[tardy charm]

Just stick to packs I guess, don't risk downloading individual models unless they come from known publishers like megascans.

[trail heron]

thats pretty much what i would do. but it definitely hurts the credibillity of small creators imo.

[misty crag]

yeah marketplace content used to be properly vetted... now we just dont know who to trust

[tardy charm]

there's not much we can do for now. We can't even report it ourselves since I'm pretty sure it asks for more details, so we have to be the copyright holder of the models to be able to report these copyrighted stuff

[echo egret]

What an encouraging nickname! 😄 By the way, seriously speaking, you're right I expressed my concern about that during the waiting for the release. That's why i will only pick stuff from the Unreal Engine section of the store. What you pointed out definitely needs to be addressed. High quality must be guaranteed and I'm curious to khow how Epic will keep those standards high and if they are gonna still make a selection process when developers upload new UE-ready assets.

[trail heron]

yeah i mean tbf the quality on marketplace was often already hit or miss, but then it was "mostly" in the actual quality of the work, not the legality, aside from the occasional stolen or ripped assets etc. which you can never fully avoid happening in any reasonable capacity.

[tardy charm]

I feel like the sketchfab migration needed more moderation to avoid this issue entirely. I don' think SF assets get automatically migrated, someone needs to migrate them themselves so moderation really should've been tighter to avoid copyright. I feel like they should also leave sketchfab alone since it's just being used as a model junkyard at this point

[trail heron]

pretty sure the migration was automatic manual migration was possible to make full use of fabs features, like the tiered pricing. but if you did not manually migrate you just got migrated with default settings, which is what seems to have happened with alot of marketplace assets as well

[echo egret]

I don't mind the most basic stuff, sometimes there's something in there worth too. At the end of the day it's all about the developers and the project they are working at, if for a commercial game or just for learning purposes or even just pure hobby.

[final lily]

can anyone even access the website right now? been having issues all day but now its just not letting me in at all

[trail heron]

oh no i don't mind it existing at all, i mostly mind how difficult it was, and potentially still is. to tell the level ff quality of assets prior to purchasing.

[echo egret]

Oh well... that's a whole other story, a rabbit hole on its own!

I bought assets I found useless.

Another concern of mine... UE4 based characters and UE5-ready characters... i find annoying by now that even new characters are still built/rigged on the old UE4 skeleton... I really hope Epic will make sure we can know which character assets are UE5-Ready or just UE5-Compatible, which are two completely different stories!

[trail heron]

yeahhhhh..... sellers are often not super clear on that either, which... feels misleading, but i can get their perspective.

[tardy charm]

there's not much you can do other than waiting a few hours. I had the same problem this morning for like 5 hours

[trail heron]

if you could see more info on skeletal meshes, like bone structure that would be pretty cool.

[final lily]

only gotten in once today, not exactly a smooth launch

[tardy charm]

the servers are pretty overloaded from everyone getting on

[echo egret]

I get it too, I understand they might be more comfortable doing the rigging on UE4 but... damn... just be clear about that in description and put an icon on your images, like some already do luckily.

[tardy charm]

They probably didn't anticipate this number of people

Imagine if they did launch sales lol. The site's gonna be in even worse condition

[trail heron]

they probably did, but if you scale all your resources to expected peak usage at launch, you waste a shitload of money. while after a couple days it'll calm down by like... 80/90% on average and spread out significantly more.

[tardy charm]

fair enough

[echo egret]

Again... UE5-Ready and *** UE5-Compatible*** definitions should be an organic thing in defining UE assets.

[trail heron]

which would then promptly get misused 😛

[arctic plover]

I'm confused that some assets charge the same amount for personal or pro, so I'm unsure which to pick

[echo egret]

"Those little funny things..."

[tardy charm]

they probably don't want to participate in the whole 2 license thing. Which is weird that FAB doesn't provide the seller a way to opt out from it and have one license instead

[arctic plover]

It seems like getting the pro license makes more sense in that case, but then will it cause trouble if you buy personal licenses for other things?

Like it would make sense to cover potentially earning more if your game is a success, but not if it's gonna cause problems getting the personal licenses if it doesn't

[trail heron]

it actually does not matter if the price is the same, but you should buy the one appropriate for your financial situation (below or above 100k revenue)

[echo egret]

Oh well... in any case that still helps... at least you can classify those misusers as not reliable and never buy from them. Reputation is still an important defining thing.

[arctic plover]

Makes sense. And there's only a couple months left in the year, so unlikely I'll suddenly strike it rich

[trail heron]

this is a misunderstanding your license does not become invalid once you start earning above 100k. your income in the 12 months prior to PURCHASING is the only thing that is considered, how much you make after you already own the license does not matter.

[arctic plover]

Oh yeah, good point. Had a long day at work so I'm a little fuzzy I guess

[echo egret]

I hope you're right.

[trail heron]

i am certain.

[arctic plover]

It's in the faq

[echo egret]

I'm just a former mainstream Designer turned to "game development" only a couple years ago... very far from being able to release anything commercial aside new architecture/furniture assets which are also something it's too early for me to do for UE. A Personal License" is a natural choice for me.

[pulsar nova]

I read the whole license earlier, it's 100% correct

interesting part is

If you complete a Transaction for a License Tier you were not eligible for at the time of purchase, you must, upon request, pay Epic the remainder of what you would have owed had you purchased a License Tier you were eligible for.

[trail heron]

don't start confusing the people further xD

[pulsar nova]

I am certainly confused haha

is this supposed to mean if you buy the wrong license you contact epic to pay the remaining amount

upon whose request

[trail heron]

it means if you bought the <100ktier for 5 bucks while you earned over 100k, (and thus should have bought the pro license for say 10 bucks) you agree that when asked. you will pay the difference between the license you paid an the license you should have paid for. which would be an additional 5 bucks.

[arctic plover]

Now for the fun part. Some assets have the pro listed cheaper than the personal

So if you're a personal and you buy pro, then you could be required to pay the difference

[trail heron]

which means the same thing. you have to buy the license appropriate for you, if you buy the pro license because its cheaper but you should have bought the pro, you will be required, when asked. to pay the difference

[pulsar nova]

I'd expect that using something without an appropriate license is just straight up copyright infringement, so that just seems surprisingly chill

[trail heron]

therefor i'mma make an asset for 1000 bucks on personal, and 5 bucks on pro. and then make a good pile of cash going after people that bought the wrong one.

[pulsar nova]

then again I suppose that's the responsibility of the rights holder and not epic

[trail heron]

its not copyright infringement, technically its fraude.

the copyright infringement only happens when you use the assets in violation of the license

the fraudde hapens the moment you purchase the wrong license

[pulsar nova]

fair

[trail heron]

but if someone wants to pursue you legally for defrauding over like... 5 bucks... 99% of courts would instantly throw it out even in small claims court or the likes

[dusk kelp]

Any way to see my unity stuff on Fab?
My unreal & unity accounts are the same email, but fab doesn't show anything i own from unity

it shows all my epic assets, but not the unity ones 😮

[pulsar nova]

I don't see how or even why epic would provide unity assetstore assets

[dusk kelp]

Fab is a mix of unreal and unity assets

[pulsar nova]

I am actually curious how I can get my artstation purchases

[trail heron]

because conversion to UE. as well as making mney on unity customers.

[pulsar nova]

assets bought on the unity assetstore I mean

not just unity assets

[trail heron]

ohhh, that idk

[arctic plover]

A little more complicated than that probably. I think it comes down to misrepresenting your situation to get the cheaper license. Most software vendors are happy to let you pay more for a pro license even if you're indie

[dusk kelp]

See, this one is available for both stores, but I already own it in unity

Though it still asks me to purchase it

[pulsar nova]

if you buy a game on steam you aren't going to be able to download it for free from the epic games launcher either

[dusk kelp]

Like I assumes fab just combined both stores, so both platforms would purchase here

[pulsar nova]

the unity assetstore is owned by unity, you gave your money to them and they provide you with the assets you paid for

[trail heron]

yes, because normally those licenses include extra benefits you can pay for even if its not intended for you, there is no limitations in the pro licenses that state you have to earn a certain amount, but there is in the personal licenses stating you cant earn more than a certain amount. in tha case of fab each license is distinctly limited to specifically its own tier, and you can make below or above a certain amount.

[echo egret]

Alright... here an example that helps me describing what I talk about when it comes to defining prices and licenses... this awesome asset comes with two license {haven't found any yet with 3 or more licenses like happens in Artstation instead in which is a great thing about them for me compared to, for example, CG Trader which sucks when it comes to defining licenses} but, in my opinion, is a bit misleading. In this case in fact I believe not everybody who's done less than 100K is the same... that same category includes those who made 99k and those, like me, who made 0K {sad but true!}. I believe in this case we should have Personal, Indie/Professionals and Studio licenses.

[dusk kelp]

So fab doesn't have access to the unity store?
I guess people just uploaded their unity assets here manually?

[pulsar nova]

yep

[dusk kelp]

Ahh okay. I thought both stores combined officially

Like if epic and steam merged and just sold everything out of 1 store

[trail heron]

for anything cheaper than 170 bucks on an expensive license you'd only get a personal reference license, at a lower pricepoint it would not be worth selling for the author.

[dusk kelp]

Wow so that's really smart then. Basically allowing epic to sell assets from other engines lol.

[trail heron]

there is technically 4 licenses in fab, personal reference, personal, professional reference, professional.

[pulsar nova]

yep there's a personal reference only license but nobody seems to use it sadly

[echo egret]

I used the example as definition of a license, wasn't about the price, could be still 199, 799 and 1499 in case of 100K studios, that wasn't my point.

[pulsar nova]

as someone who buys assets with no intention to actually use them on the regular it'd be nice

[trail heron]

because its not very useful for most cases. just means you can look at it and use it as a reference.

[trail heron]

okay so then what is your problem with using the personal license?

[pulsar nova]

I bought over a hundred assets and I have only ever modified for use 4 of them

[arctic plover]

This will probably become more relevant once artstation merges because they have a lot of tutorials and art references

[trail heron]

that would certainly be cases where it makes more sense. the personal reference license lets you learn from the learnign material and use what you make, while the personal license lets you copy and use anything they provided within.

[echo egret]

Ain't a personal problem, aside the fact that a difference of price is relevant of course but in case of prices definitions I believe everything should depend on size, **complexity **and/or **quality **of the asset you/we sell.

[trail heron]

okay, but then i still don't get what the problem is or how a third "indie" tier would solve it

[echo egret]

Oh well, trust me, people with a particular attention to their own budgets can see the problem those licenses definitions would solve! 😏

[trail heron]

the price is whatever the seller wants to ask for it, you decide whether that price is worth it for what you get. the 2 tiers let you ask more money from people that will use your assets to generate more funds. all adding more tiers does is adding more granularity to how much each tier pays.

[echo egret]

That's of course the seller's choice, I didn't speak about that, I'm gonna sell asset myself so I talk in perspective.

[trail heron]

okay so what would a third indie license provide for you that the current tiers don't?

[echo egret]

Besides I actually believe Epic will add more licenses later on, they are already busy with the current complexity of their own task right now.

[echo egret]

to plan my investment based on a budget more efficiently and direct my attention to the better options.

I'm a newbie in game development {aside a decade of modding games} but I've got a 35+ years professional background, including project and studio management, so I can speak from that perspective and that's what I'm doing.

I'm to be considered as retired now {despite being just 51!}, I was fed with my professional world. Game Development and Arts projects are my only world now and going completely solo like I'm doing makes me very considered about budgets {low budgets, I'd say} and investments. Besides I know pretty well, I'm not the only case. I'm not a white fly, many are in my very same condition. so I just try to speak for them too. I'm not complaining, I'm just proposing solutions to what can be or become an issue for many.

[trail heron]

so you started as a professional at <16 years old?

[woven vector]

Anyone else unable to use fab due to server error?

As soon as I am logged in, I get a server error and can't use the website.

[pulsar nova]

I have a lot of complaints, but I was able to get the blender project file for an unreal environment I bought recently and that honestly makes up for everything lol

[trail heron]

keep in mind you're talking about 100k revenue, not a budget. or funds. if you make 100k as an indie with say 3 people, you have to deal with per seat licensing and you still have to deduct taxes and costs to get your actual income, split three way each person might only make 15K, in a full year of working on a project.
if you are solo working on a personal project you could earn only 50k and make significantly more money than an indie "studio" at 100k. and you only have to buy 1 license.

[pulsar nova]

(the 100k do include funds though)

funding, sorry

you just meant budget

I think I misunderstood

[trail heron]

not in the same sense i mentioned here. if you receive funding thats different than having 100k of funds from a project.

funds can be many things, funding is a specific thing.

[pulsar nova]

yep I misread

[trail heron]

while funding is included in your revenue you can't on a general license bases assume an indie making 100k revenue has 100k in funds. is basically what i am saying.

below 100k you are talking about tiny groups of people who are making things because they want to make things. above 100k you could say there is some money that can be (re)invested in some cases.

i don't see any signifficant benefit adding a third tier inbetween.

what could potentially make some sense is to add a higher tier for companies making over 1mil or a few mil. but honestly... the amount of companies at that scale of yearly revenue would be such an absolute tiny share of FAB sales that it is not worth the extra hassle, at those scales you are hiring artists and designers and commisioning work from freelancers. you're not searching through fab for per seat licensed assets.

[echo egret]

Yes, as Graphic Designer, alongside studying.

Signed my first solo project in 1989.

[echo egret]

I do consider all that as well, but one count are funds and one count is a personal budget, which is most likely personal savings for example. Your example, from my point of view, reinforces my statement. As a matter of fact I've put Indies and Professionals licenses together, as separated from a Personal license. Again. Artstation is pretty solid when it comes to defining licences. Just to be clear, Here is, most likely, what I'd consider appropriate:

PERSONAL

For an hobbyist or student or for individual creator {but might also be some no-profit association or cultural entity providing free courses and such} with no more than $25k of revenue or funding in the last 12 month.

INDIE/PROFESSIONALS

For a solo professional creator or a small team with no more than $100k of revenue or funding in the last 12 month.

STUDIO

For a professional team, studios o other entities with over $100k of revenue or funding in the past 12 month.

I hope my point makes more sense now.

.

***!GOOD NEWS! : ***

** Library/vault in the launcher is starting to repopulate after doing a refresh again!**

Slowly {just one asset only, so far} 😏 but it does. Edit: Alright, I would feel stupid now if it wasn't 6:23AM and I had some sleep, which I had not... my vault wasn't populating because no category was active so I couldn't see them. Dunno if happened to just me or... well... worth checking it for you, I guess, if you are having the same "issue". 😏 😅 Have fun, Soucers, and be creative!

[young copper]

so no wishlist huh?

[earnest moss]

Does anybody get mail, that content marked as mature?

I didn't have a problem like this on the marketplace and didn't have any after migration

[gusty bison]

well that's a channel that I read

people having been saying all day that it takes time for the library to populate when they first use fab, I feel like we need more pins here for this stuff

[gusty bison]

you mean epic telling you your content has been marked mature? based on what folks were posting today, it seems like they've put an AI on the task of finding mature content, and it's kind of dumb unfortunately

if your content isn't mature, you might want to let them know as such and see if they'll deign to have a human look upon it

[earnest moss]

They saying this is combination of AI and human xD if I understand correctly, it mature, because I have cigarettes in a scene

[gusty bison]

interesting

[earnest moss]

Looks like cigarettes trigger them. Because "regulated goods"

[gusty bison]

earlier there was content marked mature because it was called Touch Joystick soo

and obviously it was a touchscreen joystick component...

[earnest moss]

How it is mature

[gusty bison]

that's a good question, if that is a question

[split iron]

Hmm the search isn't very good, keeps omitting stuff from my library that should meet the criteria

[earnest moss]

Cigarettes could be regulated goods that makes scene mature?

[gusty bison]

"touch joystick" could also be considered a euphemism

an AI would easily make that mistake

[jaunty dagger]

Yeah I found even searching for certain key words I am left with things not exactly related too it seems. Shows stuff not even related to what I had typed in sometimes.

[split iron]

Yeah searching 'character' shows almost nothing but I have tons of characters lol

[wild hill]

So when I try to login into Fab it says oops something went wrong

[split iron]

I notice when I go back to an old tab the entire page just throbs and never loads (it had already loaded)

[pallid basalt]

sorry to the fab team, idk if there was a technical reason for this but not having questions and text reviews carry over or even exist at all is a massive loss. Might as well remove ratings entirely at this point.

[split iron]

I feel you, its hard for niche higher priced assets that struggle to get a large amount of reviews too
Just one or two bad eggs can really ruin the image

Lack of context is just not useful for buyers

I guess they just got sick of having to moderate reviews

[serene escarp]

So, just 1 click and all is done? No scripts, no clicking every item?

[jaunty dagger]

Yeah having some assets stuck at 5 star or w.e because they were forced to to access documentation kinda throws a lot of the reviews left out the window.

That and all new assets won't have reviews so?

I feel a system similar to steam would be best.

[wild hill]

https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/fab-list-of-known-issues-at-launch/2080070

[jaunty dagger]

Thumb up or thumb down method!

[serene escarp]

Can't select quality in megascans? I used low

[serene escarp]

Not really sure

All Megascans are free to everyone under Fab’s Standard License until the end of 2024, for all engines and tools. Claim them now and download them from the Quixel profile.

[narrow wave]

Yes, after clicking the button if you go into any of the Megascans it'll say you own it

[vestal sluice]

Is the old seller sales report page still relevant ?

https://publish.unrealengine.com/v3/reports/sales-reports

since I don’t see any seller report in fab, I am assuming the old UEM report link still works. I don’t know whether it’s working or not since it shows no sales occurred yesterday.

[serene escarp]

Looks like I claimed a small amount of assets - collections only. Everything other is From Free, I need to add into my library

Or not so sure - You own this item

[narrow wave]

Fab so far seems to have a hard time showing "owned" instead of the price when you're looking at search results. It'll show as owned when you open the asset's page though

Although I do have at least one asset (not a megascans) which says owned, but doesn't on the asset page

[proper dew]

Yeah the owned tag seems to be a bit buggy at the moment.

[serene escarp]

Where can I find the assets once claimed?
For now, you can download assets individually from the Quixel profile on Fab. We're working on a solution to add all Megascans to your Fab library and allow you to easily manage them. Stay tuned for more details.

So, one click fits all solution is coming

[proper dew]

Yes you can claim all quixel assets but they will not be added to your library for now. Theyll probably figure out something until the end of the year. But you should, theoretically, own all quixel assets once you click the button.

[serene escarp]

Why are some Megascans missing from Fab that were available in the Quixel library?
We’re working to bring those assets to Fab, and they’ll start appearing soon. However, some displacements and older assets from Quixel have been discontinued. They will no longer be available to download.
Any known examples?

[proper dew]

Havent really looked into it yet.

[silent mesa]

Fab should have preview, and early access hehe while we can still use the old one hehe

[serene escarp]

people say - a lot of stolen models came under CC BY license. I belive, sketchfab flooded fab with a low quality content.

[narrow wave]

Yeah, you can search for characters from games and have results of those characters. Same with real cars

Including sketchfab was a huge mistake

[serene escarp]

Haha, paid Pikachu (Pokemon) is avaible under Standard License. What Nintendo says?

[silent mesa]

Yeah i wanted a tab strictly for ue as even ue had tons of assets, flooding them with more assets from other sites makes it convoluted in my opinion. For now, i just use the filter ue content.

[bleak thorn]

why can i not sort my library alphabetically 😠 so far not impressed

[charred mica]

I do see the sales but i don’t know if it was before Fab Launched or after it.

[frozen quarry]

I absolutely do not understand why the favorites item was not integrated. I had things stored there that I would like to buy in the future. Now I don't even know which ones and how many there were because everything is gone. It was thus possible to monitor asset prices and their possible discounts.....simply incomprehensible. This so-called FAB had to be made by someone who had not even seen the marketplace from a speeding car.

[opal cave]

Is that me or prices on fab are much higher?

[spark harbor]

because of the added VAT, maybe

[fresh sphinx]

Seems like the old publisher portal is keeping track of FAB purchases as well

[past frigate]

Love this. Just like any other unregulated market, I have to sort through an endless flood of absolute garbage. And when I do find something, I can't be sure it's not stolen or some sort of copyright infringement. Great start for Fab.

[worldly flower]

I hope the content gets moderated afterwards..
Now they have Categories like "Decals", which is empty for Unreal Format... cause all Decals are inside "2D Assets"..

[slow kestrel]

Hi! Is there some analog of Quixel Bridge?

[fresh sphinx]

So from my understanding (Please someone correct me if I'm wrong), FAB can include licensed products, but its the buyers responsibility to not use them in their commercial project?

[silent mesa]

Same here i have marked a lot of assets and dont know what i need to buy.

I should have listed them.

[past frigate]

Technically, Fab cannot sell or license it to you either, but copyright law on the internet is the wild west and they can get away with it for as long as no lawyer of the copyright holder puts in the effort to have it taken down. You'll be on the hook for it in the same way, so I'd keep away from anything that seems sketchy for now.

[winter hollow]

fab is so broken lol. the short links created via share lead to page not found lol
the previews for embeds are broken too

[past frigate]

Though for that specific model I'm not sure, because it does not look like a real Nissan GTR, or the one used in NFS Most Wanted. Merely the brand logos on the tires and side decals are a definitive problem I think.

[fresh sphinx]

Yea their isn't any official branding on it, but just through browsing, I spotted a lot of licensed assets so wanted to know how that is all going to work

[uncut moat]

Does anyone else also has issues with the license being wrong? in the email it stated that the license for stuff bought from "Marketplace" would be UE Marketplace license, rather than the new system, but all my assets I bought from UE Marketplace now has a standard license suddenly.

[worldly flower]

You can click on the Personal License and select the already owned professional?

FAB currently lists Personal per default.. even you own Professional

[uncut moat]

Hmm, where would I change that? I only see the download button, and it says my license is standard? Maybe I am missing something though

[worldly flower]

In your library, select the item and you find the license dropdown in the details

OH - i see.. strange

When reloading:

After load has finished:

interesting..

[uncut moat]

Yeah, that is what confused me.

[worldly flower]

Maybe they overhaul this stuff right now..

[odd oxide]

Now that marketplace is no more, would UE still offer free assets but via fab now?

[worldly flower]

Or in the filters set price to "Free"

[hot rivet]

wow there is a minimum and maximum price?

[worldly flower]

yes - but it's buggy..

If you f.e. search for a mimimum of 1.00, it still lists 0.99, too..

maybe an internal rounding or something other strange..

[feral cobalt]

Anyone else have this. I own the assets and it's in my library but it still show a to buy button on the details page. Only happens on some assets.

[silent mesa]

is there another launcher for launching fab that is not webiste based? like the old one where we can check the library including the engine versions, and my projects?

or we can still use the old launcher as i can still open it?

How about future engine updates? where do we do that?

when we update assets like plugins, will it automatically update basing on the existing directory?

[brazen lintel]

do i need to add some models / textures to my Library via "Add to My library" even if it says "You own this item"?

[undone valve]

I created a Fab marketplace Trello board to keep track of things yesterday night. Let me know if I should add something: https://trello.com/b/wQTxckhe/unofficial-fab-trello-board

[worldly flower]

We only can use the Launcher - there currently is no FAB integration - only the external website.

Your Launcher "Vault" now is the FAB library.

[undone valve]

You can request your wishlist by writing to support. They will give you a pdf that contains all your wishlists

[analog oak]

How to download assets in the Source version of the engine? Before the appearance of the fab everything was ok, but now it’s not on the list. And I used legendary to download plugins, but the plugin from the fab did not appear there

[worldly flower]

The FAB plugin currently is not working -you need to load each Asset individually and add it to the Plugins Folder of your Project/Engine or the Content Folder

or via the launcher library

installing a "fake" UE version to install plugins.. and copy & paste them from the fake plugin folder to your source one

[analog oak]

How do I install it? One person told me to try legendary. I started using it. I write legendary list --include-ue but health system is not in the list

[worldly flower]

Is there any meta, for when the FAB Plugin will work?

[analog oak]

This program will have to be updated so that it takes the list of plugins from the fab But I don’t know when this will be since the latest version was released on December 8, 2023

[tame compass]

where to check payout in fab ?

[worldly flower]

via the legacy publishing portal - as with the marketplace

[analog oak]

What do you mean by "fake ue"? Because legendary is more of an epic games cli

[worldly flower]

You install a Launcher version of Unreal Engine via the Epic games launcher.. and install Plugins of the fab Library (previously named "Vault") to it..

The open the Engine's Plugins Folder and copy your plugins over to the Source version Engine

[tame compass]

thats weird

so if i have to check payout must go to legacy

😕

[analog oak]

Okay, I didn’t want to do this before because I didn’t have free disk space. But yesterday I installed a 3TB hdd, so I can afford it.

[worldly flower]

For now

[undone valve]

Great. Will also add these 🙂

[worldly flower]

Maybe stuff of my topic:
https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/fab-problems/2080581/9

[frozen quarry]

Well that's amazing. When all the users write to them there, they will go crazy.

[undone valve]

This is also great. Thank you. I will go through this and add these things to the board

[worldly flower]

i really hope, that the FAB plugin is not a 5.5 only thing.. cause of the 5.5 release in November..

Since many people can't directly switch to 5.5, cause of reaally slow Plugin updates..

[blissful quiver]

Hey guys. Anyone figured out how to see a sale report for Fab?
I publish products and I have no idea how to see sales on Fab

[woven vector]

How are you guys even able to use Fab? I just get an error message whenever I try to login

[thick sluice]

can't download anything i keep getting a MD-0011-0 error

[worldly flower]

via the publishing portal of marketplace - it also tracks FAB

[silent mesa]

It would have been cool if there was an exclusion filter, like i want to check everything under the UE engine, but exclude 2d assets and music, i feel there is no option atm.

[undone valve]

Good thing is that there is now the “I abandoned this product filter” using the UE marketplace license

[silent mesa]

ow so sales/discounts might only be available later next month. Thats why I cant find discounts, but i feel lots of creators want to do discounts regardless of epic events.

[fresh sphinx]

Oh yea for sure. I suppose we'll have to wait and see when sellers can request promotions for their own products again

[undone valve]

It’s a EU law. Only 30 days after a product released you can legally create a sale

[misty crag]

so how does steam launch sales work in EU or is that not allowed there?

[undone valve]

Good question you are asking there.

[fresh sphinx]

I think in this case though the reason isn't that. I think the email I received back would of explicitly stated that but instead they said they'll provide further information in the future regarding custom requested sales 🤷‍♂️

[misty crag]

seems like everyone does launch sales these days even epic store. beats the "I'll wait for a sale" mentality some players have

[undone valve]

I need to do some extra research. This would be illegal but maybe there is a clause that allows for launch sales in some cases

[silent mesa]

ow i guess ill have a fasting for buying UE assets then for 1 month hehe

[misty crag]

im holding out as well.

[undone valve]

I wouldn’t buy anything yet. Some people’s purchases don’t show up in their library…

[vale prawn]

Do you have a source on that?

[undone valve]

Ahh okay. So it is not an EU law but just a German one.

[worldly flower]

Even that.. not..
Or.. not that black/White

The Sales Law here clearly differs by fairness of sale

If you make a product 100€ and after a week with 100 Sales, you set it to 10€.. it's unfair and against the law

while a Release-Sale is clearly possible.. and a sale after a fair amount of time

[undone valve]

Yeah a release sale is also possible but a product must be set 30 days to that original price after the sale

Fair amount of time is 30 days.

[worldly flower]

As all german lawyers state everytime: "Das kommt auf den Einzelfall an" (It depends on the individual case)

[undone valve]

Das stimmt, das sagen die wirklich immer (that’s true)

[worldly flower]

❗❗❗Reminder:
Claim your Free 6 Months of Adobe Substance:
https://www.fab.com/adobe-promo
Worth around 260€.

[abstract shale]

Does anyone know if you can see recently published products like the new releases page on the old marketplace?

[worldly flower]

No - but you can go to the main Discover Page, Sort by newest below the Featured Sellers

Only problem right now - many ( i think all migrated assets) do have First release 18th, September

[tawny hinge]

substance is 200 bucks on steam, without subscription

[worldly flower]

yes - but only painter.. you need to pay each individual (Painter, modeler, Designer..)

and 6 Months for free.. is nice

(one does not need to subscribe after that)

[tawny hinge]

yea, it's not a bad deal. but once figured out if you like it i would get them on steam

without the subscription stuff

[worldly flower]

i currently go with ArmorPaint and ArmorLab ^^"

But for the free-Code i will do some substance in those 6 Months

[blissful quiver]

oh - interestigly any sales I had yesterday are showing up under "UE Marketplace" - I wonder if this means that I made no sales on Fab or that those were Fab sales

[worldly flower]

possible..

I think Epic currently is on fixing the FAB market and releasing the Plugin, then targeting the launcher.. and then the migrate the publisher portal to FAB, too

Would make sense in that order..

But.. Sense and Epic..

[silent mesa]

can you add the "questions"? it was important for me as i get to see valid questions (before the verify flooding questions) from people and replies from the creator without asking again, unless creators will add commonly asked questions or faqs.

Apart from written reviews, the questions helped me decide if i buy assets or not

[undone valve]

This means you made those sales on UE marketplace still.

[undone valve]

Sure 👍

[silent mesa]

Thanks.

[worldly flower]

Fab for Unreal needs some rework of the Categories, too..
It is really hard/impossible to filter for Blueprints, specific Plugin types and such.. Assets are scattered in all and every category, without a big sense. The "Smart Assets" Category currently is filled with models, code plugins.. even audio assets.. don't know what is "smart" on those..
Decals are in "2D Assets".. while "Decals" is empty..
"UI" also needs subcategories for "Widgets", "UI Kits" and "Full UI/UX Systems"
..and so on..

( i think this also belongs to the Unity Section, too.. but can't speak for those..)

[blissful quiver]

Oh - this can spell doom then as so far I've not made a single sale on fab while usually I get quite a fair bit on a daily basis
Now, obviously the marketplace just launched and it will take a bit of time for people to acclimate to it, but it could also mean that a lot of creators will be negatively impacted in the short term.

[undone valve]

Same goes for me. Not made a single sale on Fab but on the UE marketplace instead. But someone shared their Fab sales already so I know it says "Fab Listing Sale" or something when you sold something on Fab

[undone valve]

Yep. Gonna add that too

[fresh sphinx]

Not sure if this bug was just on my end, but also seems like if you change your seller name, your products won't display on your page anymore until you submit an update to them

[pliant forum]

Just verified an order for the first time on FAB, have to say it's very straight forward and pain free.
No bot or such that can automate it, but it takes about 20~ seconds per user so I have no complaint!

[vale prawn]

For those who care ( @sturdy hawk?) : Fab's API is fairly similar to the MP. The entry point I use for the Twitter bot is below.
https://www.fab.com/i/listings/search?channels=unreal-engine&currency=USD&sort_by=-createdAt
I haven't figured out the proper domain to use though (for the MP it was marketplace-website-node-launcher-prod.ol.epicgames.com)

[undone valve]

https://trello.com/c/stOOxbPy

Trello

Rework of Categories

Currently assets are completley cluttered all over the place.

• Decals are all in the “textures”, “2d assets” and “materials” category even though they should be in the “Decals” category
• You really cant find blueprints anymore. Searching the “Smart Assets” category results in absolute junk. You can find any type of asset there. From audio cue...

[sturdy hawk]

It's limited to 24 items though... I should test if a limit query key will work 🤔

[vale prawn]

They have cursors now, so you can use that

[sturdy hawk]

Yes but it still means more requests :/

Previously, I could retrieve items by batch of 100

[undone valve]

Glad to hear that! From where does your customer get the Order ID from? From the invoice`?

[pliant forum]

They find it in their initial purchase email. Second option is their Epic Game account page, under Transactions -> The item purchased, when pressed it expands the purchase information

[undone valve]

Thank you 😄

[silent mesa]

It would be a bummer that halloween is approaching and we wont have a fab halloween sale hehe

[undone valve]

ikr. October,November & December was always my best months

[blissful quiver]

I get t this feeling that we won't be eating much this christmas

[grizzled thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/brokenheart-sadboi-depressoexpresso-depressed-depression-gif-19960742

mood

[silent mesa]

I was expecting also FAB opening discount which would flock people buying stuff, but i guess the exp is different.hehe

[blissful quiver]

I haven't been "gifted" with a sale for 2 months and a half now

definitely hit my bottom line

while in may, june and july I had a sale going on

[silent mesa]

Sad to hear, just want developers to have a good income so that they can improve and maintain their products.

Im just a buyer so i always on the look for discounts if there is any, but yeah if i really need it, then i will buy ASAP

[blissful quiver]

yeah I just spent like $3k on a automaterial solution that I want to launch soon on Fab (going to beta test soon) and I have no idea if I will recoup the investment as it's become an unstable market all of a sudden

[exotic oriole]

guys
do you have issue with fab?
i bought a new plugin
and it isnt appearing in my vault

[undone oxide]

I find it worrying that so much feels rushed.

The amount of ripped or ip infringing assets in there is astounding, hard to feel confident for buyers when they have no idea if what they're buying is actually legally licensed or just a scam.

And things like wishlists from the marketplace just going poof, I had quite a few plugins in my wishlist that I was considering buying if there was a sale or simply to remember them later, but that's all gone now, and no wishlist feature exists in fab yet.

[tardy charm]

You can email fab support to get your wishlist items in a pdf i think

[exotic oriole]

or just screen shot it

[undone oxide]

That's good at least, but still, feels like it would be the very basics to include when migrating accounts to a new service.
Not that I think they didn't think of it, but rather that they were likely under heavy time pressure and had to cut such things

I'm more considering for people selling things, if all their potential customers wishlists now depend on said customers emailing support then they can pretty much be considered gone ^^

[exotic oriole]

this why epic sux, i quote cp red - we sona release it when its ready, epic new market place is a giant fuck up

[bold beacon]

Also the different license options are pretty confusing, at least for me as a buyer. I get that bigger studios get to pay more, but there are "reference" licenses and other stuff that makes it hard to figure out precisely what you can do. At least the unreal market had a clear one license

[exotic oriole]

guys
do you have issue with fab?
i bought a new plugin
and it isnt appearing in my vault

[bold beacon]

Try checking your unreal engine vault, contact support

[exotic oriole]

empty

[bold beacon]

Contact support then, they're slowly patching up the bugs but they need to know what's happening

[undone valve]

Just wait.

It is a current issue that it might take a few hours

[worldly flower]

is the refresh button in the "vault" working?

[undone valve]

Yes

[worldly flower]

hmmm

ok.. maybe i need to wait 1-2hours then.. added the Discord bridge 10 Minutes ago and it is not appearing..

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-sw3-gif-21070142

[undone valve]

Ima gonna call it. This month started out really really really good. I have the feeling that my products get way less exposure than before even if you directly search for the keywords with which they should show up. If this month ends bad and next month is also ass imma quit selling on the Fab marketplace.

[fresh sphinx]

What type of products do you sell, if you dont mind me asking

[worldly flower]

i think epic should've moved UE 5.5 more.. and focus on a good release of Fab..
But as always.. planning and working on 200 features, and finish each by 0.5% - Still gives 100% success..

[undone valve]

Sure: This is my page: https://www.fab.com/sellers/Kibibyte

@fresh sphinx

[worldly flower]

I'm still a Fan of your work! please don't quit

[undone valve]

It fully depends on my sales. Thank you for purchasing my products. I remember you leaving a question or review 😄

[undone valve]

yep. I feel like they are procrastinating a lot.

[worldly flower]

Multiple ^^"
All related to the Resolution of the Window Extension

[undone valve]

Thank you 😄

I saved all my questions and written reviews with screenshots. I also included some of the reviews in my product descriptions.

[vestal sluice]

That's a lot of plugin products you made. Really dedicated. Hopefully Fab stops its stupid shenanigans and act like a real store soon for us sellers.

[undone valve]

Yeah hopefully. There will also be many more products soon but now I got demotivated a bit :/

[bold beacon]

Fab shouldv'e really started with a storewide sale or some kind of legacy sale for migrating sellers. You're in there with all the new ones while the migration cut all of your store recognition

And because of the bugs less people are willing to buy right now, waiting for things to become stable, it's not fair for you guys

[undone valve]

Yeah. I think an optional sale for each seller would have been waaaay better.

[bold beacon]

Especially because it's not just the unreal market getting an update, it's a brand new store! It'll take a few weeks for customers to fully be back 🥲

[undone valve]

Yeah. Their algorithm also needs to adjust I think. Just sort for "Relevance" on Engine Tools for example. There is absolute junk on top. 😄

[bold beacon]

One thing I always hated with the UE marketplace is the lack of a "popularity" sorting order. I want to know what tools people use, not what is the less priced or the newer T-T

[undone oxide]

@undone valve looking at your store pages, did ratings not transfer for some of them?
Or were there many plugins where you had no ratings

[undone valve]

They didnt transfer for some of them. And for others I havent reached the 5 rating threshold yet.

[undone oxide]

Ah

[thorny vault]

Uh, how does one see how much they have sold and such now?

And I also noticed some of my products lost their ratings

... and where are the questions and comments/user reviews sections?

[bold beacon]

Written sections and Q&As are gone afaik

[thorny vault]

Well that's bad form 😦

[bold beacon]

If the products which lost their ratings had less than 5 ratings, it is intended behaviour: they are counted but not visible until you have 5 reviews on the product

If they had more reviews, it's probably part of the list of bugs the fab team needs to work on

[drowsy plaza]

I remember reading that those will be taken down from new sales after February if the seller doesn’t officially migrate

[undone valve]

Very interesting...

[undone valve]

On the UE Seller Portal

[drowsy plaza]

I hate the EU, taking us back to the Stone Age with their boomer regulations on tech. No AI, no screen mirroring, doxing startup creators, this. It’s getting to the point where I may stop selling my stuff in the EU if I have to

[thorny vault]

@undone valve Ah thanks, there was no link from Fab to there

Thought they'd move that over to the "Publish" tab in Fab or something

@drowsy plaza screen mirroring?

[vale prawn]

On that specific point, later in the discussion it came up that this wasn't an EU rule, and maybe somewhat sometimes potentially just a german rule.

[drowsy plaza]

Apple can’t release new tech there because of all the dumb regulations the dinosaurs running the EU are doing. Macs can’t screenshare with iPhone because the EU is trying to tell Apple their protocol needs to be open so Apple is just not releasing there like a chad

[thorny vault]

Pretty sure my product had way more than 5 reviews. Hope it comes back...

[drowsy plaza]

Still dumb that the whole world has to obey to European crap

[bold beacon]

Probably a bug then... let's wait a little

[bold beacon]

The EU is a big market, not a lot of big companies want to lose their customers there 👀

[drowsy plaza]

Most the products on fab were migrated but because regulators are stupid their rule doesn’t have exceptions for that because blanket regulations harm the individual

[thorny vault]

@drowsy plaza it's funny how regulations like that rarely even affect the corporations they're meant to affect. The corps kick downward and it's the end users who suffer in the end

[undone valve]

Yeah, they got some weird restrictions and regulations. But the 30 day thing I mentioned is not a EU law but a German law. But even here it is a gray zone

[drowsy plaza]

Yep, it’s always the individual little guy who gets screwed by blanket regulations

[bold beacon]

EU law is pretty good for the consummer / customer, it really brought forward a lot of protections. I understand your point for little sellers

ie GDPR is a fantastic thing we got

[vale prawn]

When you say it like that, I'm actually for the EU rule. Apple is just complaining because they don't want anyone touching their walled garden (same fight Epic is fighting BTW). They very much can do screen mirroring, they just don't want to do it in a way that would be helpful to customers. It's their choice, not the EU.

[undone valve]

I have to drink my Mc'Donalds Coke out of this because plastic straws are forbidden:

It is not enjoyable to drink out of that btw. It feels weird

[undone valve]

I am awaiting a response from the Fab team. I have this same problem

[drowsy plaza]

That’s awful, in America they put the McFlurrys in Chinese takeout boxes

[bold beacon]

They've got a lot on their plate, it's probably going to take a while

[undone valve]

hahahahah

[undone valve]

Yeah. They also dont answer half of their emails.

[bold beacon]

They're probably getting spammed by the amount of angry sellers and customers tbh 😅

They've not had the best launch they could hope for

[thorny vault]

@undone valve if you try that's bad to drink out of, try this new kind of lid. You can rip it off, but then there'll be a sharp plastic piece which digs into your lip instead.

https://preview.redd.it/hzptlznmwbxb1.jpg?width=577&auto=webp&s=14c652f9320be0f538b3553aaff24cc9a9491de6

[undone valve]

Yeah. I am from Germany so I also have all these EU regulations breathing down my neck. I always rip that thing off

[thorny vault]

Just because someone had to justify their job by cooking up the idea that people throw plastic lids in nature, so hey, lets make all lids impossible to take off

[undone valve]

I am just wondering about why the hell every launch of major software, service, or game is so bad these days

[thorny vault]

"we can fix it in post"

[bold beacon]

Because they have a lot of things to get right, and most of the time stuff breaks during the stress of launch

[undone valve]

"Its a small bug. We'll fix it next year"

[thorny vault]

early access, we'll fix it with patches down the road. here's a roadmap stretching to 2026 for when we'll fix the stuff

[undone valve]

"There are bugs? Not on my machine..."

[bold beacon]

It's not 3 guys in a room launching some software 10 people will try out, it's a multi million dollar project with a ton of people working on it and millions expecting it to work flawlessly from the get go, stuff is bound to break

[undone valve]

11-50 employees

Thats what their LinkedIn says

[bold beacon]

But I do get that it's infuriating, it is for me as a buyer, and it must be tenfold for you as a seller

[undone valve]

Yep.

I am a buyer and a seller. But buying is no option right now for me as it might take multiple hours for a product to be added to your library and I am not a patient person when it comes to stuff like this

[bold beacon]

That, and also integration plugins outright don't work, which is very annoying

We got out of a semi okay vault system to a default shopping website, for now

But again it's only been opened for a day, maybe things will improve quickly, maybe

[devout mountain]

Cannot locate how to wishlist a new product. Where is it?

[floral depot]

Wishlists aren't available yet see post: #fab message

[bold beacon]

I think they're referring to the message they replied to, the unrealsales.io wishlist

[undone valve]

If you want your UE marketplace wishlists you need to write to support. If you want to use Unrealsales.io. it seems like the website isnt responding anymore to requests. Maybe they shut it down. It worked yesterday

[devout mountain]

We need to write to support? Should they not port over the wishlist themselves?

[undone valve]

Nope. As there is no wishlist on Fab anymore

[floral depot]

They said it will be added in the future

[devout mountain]

Unrealsales.io is working but is this wishlist independant of original marketplace or does it import from there?

[floral depot]

Why they removed it in the first place is beyond me

[devout mountain]

They should have warned us, so we could have saved it

[undone valve]

They did and I saved it 😄

[devout mountain]

oops missed it

[undone valve]

I think it doesnt work anymore. I tried adding something to it and it didnt work

[vale prawn]

They did? I don't think so, unless you count "Epic is releasing a new website, so expect nothing to work anymore" as a warning.

[undone valve]

No. They said in some FAQ that it wont be supported at the start

[vale prawn]

To quote me from earlier 😄

Do you have a source on that?

[undone valve]

Sure but I dont know in which of these 500 FAQs it is. let me search it

[undone valve]

idk man I cant find it. Maybe they said that in a live stream. Anyways, I got it from somewhere as I then saved all my wishlist products.

[alpine peak]

Do I need to add megascan assets to my library to have them? I already claimed but I'm still not sure.

[granite moth]

hi ! does FAB takes a crazy time to load for you too ? thanks !

[undone valve]

Nope. If you claimed them you are all good

[alpine peak]

thanks!

[sleek imp]

I updated my asset pack and the review was successful. I selected to automatically publish once the review is done but it's stuck in this state and I can't do anything... any solutions other than contact support which will probably take several days?

[undone valve]

Nope?

[granite moth]

ok thkans 🙂

[undone valve]

For me it took a few hours to publish. If waiting doesnt help reach out to support. This is a known issue that they want to fix. If you use special characters in your file name then that is the reason for it to not work

[sleek imp]

Does this happen if you manually publish too?

[final lily]

day 2 and still seemingly unable to load the website, anyone else having this issue?

[lavish sky]

Hi ! Is there a licensing model on FAB that disallow for a product to be commercially used ?
I want to make a free version of a product, with the caveat of no commercial use

Or is it to the seller to tell it's not allowed

[undone valve]

Try a different browser

[undone valve]

Creative Commons I think?

[drowsy plaza]

I can get on, maybe restart your PC to clear any cache it has stored up

[lavish sky]

I looked it up, but it allows for commercial use, editing, sharing etc

[undone valve]

It does? Thats news to me

[undone valve]

Clear the cache and cookies

[lavish sky]

from the EULA

no mention of commercial use or not on the FAB eula, so I guess it's up to the seller

[final lily]

does not work

[undone valve]

try using firefox as it isnt chromium based

[undone valve]

weird

[final lily]

it worked using Edge, but for the love of everything holy how hard can it be to make a website work on Chrome these days 😅

[undone valve]

Idk. I mainly use Arc which is chromium based but always have Firefox too as sometimes things just dont work on Chrome

[final lily]

Can't even log into megascans to claim

I'm logged in, but when i try to claim any megascans pack, it prompts me to log in again. But when i click Sign it it just refreshed the page and don't actually take me to the login

[sullen sonnet]

I have tried on opera and edge and still cant login

[undone valve]

Last resort is firefox then

[sullen sonnet]

nope same thing

[honest blade]

Can confirm, also can't login, and was logged in before. So website seems to be having trouble.

[charred mica]

They are fixing it.

[slim rover]

Anyone else having an issue using "Add to My Library"?

I click it and it just cycles to the main discover page when I click on it

[hot rivet]

my is fine

[spark dove]

same idk how to fix it

[undone valve]

I can access it

[slim rover]

Is it me or is the Fab store just bugging out today? I try to sign in, it appears that I'm signed in. I can view my library but if I click my top right account icon it just brings me back to the discovery page. If I try to add something to my library it brings me back to discovery. I already claimed the quixel assets yet it says I didn't, it asks me to sign in then it just brings me back to the discovery page afterwards. Am I signed in or not? What the hell is going on

[undone valve]

Okay it seems like this happens to many people. For me the site just loads long until it appears but it appears