fab

[tepid niche]

It's just excitement and curiosity I think and on top of it having some fun around it with some other poeple who are curious what it will be like.

[proper dew]

Yeah excitement, curiosity and especially the fact that it already got delayed for nearly a year. At least thats what I think.

[undone valve]

Try to click on the top right on the account symbol. I also had this issue but when I clicked on my account I got forwarded to the right place

[tepid niche]

did the ever announce a specific release time like now?

[undone valve]

It was mid October 100%

[tepid niche]

Yea no I meant in regards to the, 1 year delay part.

before that is was just vague right?

[undone valve]

It is my main source of income so yeah, I am worried how it will turn out. And any delay gives me cyberpunk launch vibes.

[undone valve]

They said in 2023 “This year” and later “Next year”.

And then October

And then mid October

I swear they said 15. October on their FAQ at some point but they removed that and no on else saw that so it seems.

[drowsy plaza]

as long as the marketplace customers are informed of the change I think sales will be fine, they might improve a little with the extra algorithimic recommendations fab will have

[trail heron]

cyberpunk would have been way better and had much better reception at launch had they delayed it for another year tho.

[drowsy plaza]

so make sure you announce to your users that the marketplace is shutting down and being replaced with fab

[undone valve]

Will definitely do that! + a new YouTube video announcing it

[undone valve]

That’s true

[viral zinc]

Na, talked with support still waiting to see what happen here :/

[undone valve]

I also had some issues. Support ignored me after one initial message and I fixed it myself at the end. Maybe they are working on fixing the issue I encountered and therefore take so long to release FAB 😄

[viral zinc]

Oh no, hope they end helping me

Problem is some data cannot be edited later

So need they support yes or yes, even the site claims to

I found myself many parts kinda confusing tbh

If you compare it with lets say the old system or even steam

So you don't know if is public area, private, what's for, only clear is the taxes area

Should be the first thing tbh

[proper dew]

I think it was december 2023, but im not sure tho

[trail heron]

hm, there is an inside unreal livestream in 2 hours apparently. though thats mostly targeted at their new community stuff from the looks of it, no mention of fab whatsoever.

[viral zinc]

Yeah I'm in a infinite loop talking with a machine that tells me over and over the same... Sad

Requested to edit my data and they tell me I have to reset the process but the website stare I have to contact them

Reply me the same with the same words

😿

[undone valve]

If you used the old system already it should automatically transfer your tax data and stuff

[undone valve]

True

[undone valve]

interesting

[viral zinc]

Wasn't for me for some reason

They canceled it maybe because pass many years without actual sell

[undone valve]

Is this also for you

[proper dew]

I hope the livestream includes a surprise fab announcement

[viral zinc]

I don't have that pokemon, just the 500

Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 500 ()

[vital island]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-breathing-staring-ryan-gosling-gif-18580192

Still waiting

[undone valve]

Gotta collect em all 😄

[undone valve]

I hope so too but I cant imagine that they will do this.

[still basin]

Which livestream?

Ah ok got it

[trail heron]

huh... there is someone of the FAB team on the livestream. 🤔

[proper dew]

Well i would say thats a good sign

[viral zinc]

where ? on twitch ?

[trail heron]

twitch and youtube

https://www.youtube.com/live/aBny4i6IKkU

[jaunty dagger]

Sam Bass killing it

[viral zinc]

Asked myself on the indie discord if they accept feedback for indies selling on the FAB but no replies so far

could be nice to have some tools or elements that feel missing for small sellers

[hollow basin]

They are talking about fab now on the livestream

They described release date as very very imminent but they don't want to say a date

[trail heron]

hmm... tina just spoke of the "fab launcher" on the livestream.
wonder if that was just a mistake, or a slip of the tongue.

[jaunty dagger]

So new launcher?

[trail heron]

now i'm curious if they're going to fully separate it from their games business and split out from the EGS

[jaunty dagger]

Lel

I swear in email it said something about being integrated into ue

[trail heron]

i would by no means draw any conclusions based on a single mention of it on the livestream.

but i am curious xD

[jaunty dagger]

That's how it starts

[tepid niche]

fab will be a plugin like quixel is, thats what they said at some point

[trail heron]

i was thus far assuming it would be tied into the engine like a plugin in the same way as quixel

[jaunty dagger]

Yeah

[trail heron]

allowing you to also drag assets into the engine directly

[tepid niche]

yea

[trail heron]

it was just odd to me that they called it the fab launcher

but i suppose that could also just be what the plugin will launch to

[jaunty dagger]

Maybe the plugin name

[drowsy plaza]

So I guess tomorrow or Monday

[undone valve]

They also work on Saturday & Sunday fyi

[drowsy plaza]

Really? I thought epic would be closed on the weekends for everything except support tickets

[undone valve]

They are reviewing my assets on the weekend at least. They also often release big things or updates on Fridays. So its probably tomorrow 😄

[drowsy plaza]

Yeah I would be shocked if it wasn’t tomorrow. I guess if they are willing to call in developers and support staff on saturdays or Sundays then releasing on a Friday won’t be a huge issue

[jaunty dagger]

Why did fab guy leave early then 😛

[undone valve]

In the live stream?

[jaunty dagger]

Yeah

[undone valve]

Probably because it isnt finished yet 😭 🤣

[jaunty dagger]

😢

Putting that work in

[undone valve]

okay wait. I rewatched the FAB section of the stream and it sounds promising. It also sound like it launches today or tomorrow morning: He says: "Very soon. So soon, it's crazy"

He also said you get a much larger audience than ever on the other stores. So way more impressions on your products.

Make sure to save your wishlists on UE via a screenshot somehow as they wont be transfered to fab

[jaunty dagger]

lol

[dusty hornet]

anyone know a good inventory plugin? I need a simple grid based inventory with a hotbar with items of different dimensions

[undone valve]

He also said: "We are very close to the launch. Very imminent! No sharable date just yet but I cannot express how close we are to the launch."

[trail heron]

thats what i always told my boss when he was breathing down my neck for a deadline but shit was still half broken

[tepid niche]

Yea, thats what I wonder, either they have everything ready and just preparing for launch or do they have to fix things for launch 😅

[undone valve]

hahahaha 😄

[trail heron]

from the way he seemed to talk about it i think they're still having some "unforseen issues" tbh

or some stuff thats just taking longer than anticipated

[tepid niche]

Yea it appeared to be that way

[trail heron]

either way i do believe them that it won't be too much longer

[tepid niche]

But I don't think that there is game breaking stuff missing, it probably is more like some organizational things

But I'm not sure if it is tomorrow, I mean the fortnite argument might be a thing, but besides that

[undone valve]

yeah

The guy is talking about an awesome and populated EDC channel. Where do I find that and what is EDC?

[trail heron]

EDC is the Epic Dev Community

[undone valve]

ahh okay. Never heard someone used EDC

[trail heron]

https://dev.epicgames.com/community/

[undone valve]

Thank you

[tame compass]

that means bigger competition

[mellow obsidian]

rip fab

[drowsy plaza]

Can you elaborate more on this? Does fab have more users than the unreal marketplace already?

[drowsy plaza]

That means it’s probably gonna be next week not tomorrow, if it was tomorrow he would of just said that

[drowsy plaza]

Not necessarily, in the realm of assets competition is relative to your product. A behavior tree plugin for Unity isn’t gonna be competing with a water buoyancy plugin for unreal. Engine agnostic assets will likely see a big boost in sales and reach like 3d models or animations.

[tepid niche]

I wonder, now especially looking at 2d assets or soudn effects, there is so much AI stuff right ...

Now it is kind of possible by the release date to judge if it is AI or not, but on FAB there is no way to know right?

It's one thing to say "I don't want AI", but on the other hand, some handcrafted sound or 2d assets, may be thought through where they are part of a set and compliment each other, but the ai things might just be generated and then all put in a folder with no coherence.

[undone valve]

It will have more users probably. But he meant that the algorithm is way better and exposes your product way more

[drowsy plaza]

Fab has a mandated AI tag you have to add to a product if it’s made by AI. It shows up next to the product name

[drowsy plaza]

That’s good, the marketplace has discounts, featured, new releases for like a day, and search as its discovery which isn’t great

[tepid niche]

thats awesome!

[dire meteor]

So does the current marketplace. People ignore it.

[mellow obsidian]

aint no way this thing dropping on a weekend bra

[cursive chasm]

Tomorrow or never. 🙂

[pulsar nova]

you won't see it unless you look for it (and even then I've missed it before until double checking) and you can only use it to search for generated content, not to filter it out

so it's practically useless

[dire meteor]

I agree it's pretty useless. 🙂

Doens't mean fab will have those options either. Believe it when I see it etc.

And even if it does, it doesn't mean people will tag their work as AI.

[pulsar nova]

yea I tried to report something untagged on artstation once (it was extremely obviously generated content), it didn't let me provide even a vague reason as to why I was reporting at all and the ticket just got got closed in 15 minutes

[dire meteor]

This will 100% be fixed by the fab merger. /s

[mellow obsidian]

epic hire me as a fab product expert so i can preach it and its not dead on arrival

[pulsar nova]

it does work decently there at least though, it makes that kinda content only appear occasionaly instead of being a significant portion of your search results with a simple checkbox

[pulsar nova]

sorry, where can I find the discord?

ah, finally found the announcements post

got it

[fossil dune]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-11625313334009911234

where fab

[proper dew]

Hopefully today

[thorny compass]

Quite the impatience lately, lol. Money will start to rain.

[warm knot]

Why did they chose to call it Fab? What does that even mean? 🤔

[pastel kindle]

Might be short for Fabricate would be my guess, so kind of like a factory. So it's like your buying things people have produced maybe?

[hollow basin]

For some reason I always thought of it being short for fabulous. Fabricate makes a lot more sense

[vale prawn]

It's just a rebrand of SketchFab

[pastel kindle]

I mean it could be that too, just fabricate is what entered my head

[proper dew]

I thought that as well

[viscid phoenix]

Fabian

[vestal sluice]

Personally I dislike the name Fab for the store name. It just doesn't sound intuitive at all, and feels a bit lazy. People are likely gonna call it the fab marketplace instead of just fab.

[pastel kindle]

Your not wrong, FAB is not a great name for it

[undone valve]

https://tenor.com/view/lilpotate-lil-potate-lilpotates-lil-potates-potato-gif-1555691742468449884

[worldly flower]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-for-help-waiting-skeleton-gif-16371559341767062897

[mellow obsidian]

you rlly gonna release this a mid sunday ?

how much they paid him ? https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/wu3yr/iam_jason_goldberg_ceo_of_fabcom_we_just_raised/

[meager dust]

I would guess the company went bust so probably nothing

It would've gone to whatever registrar had the parking page

[vale prawn]

They should have gone with fab.io

https://tenor.com/view/trophy-gif-24003171

[worldly flower]

The german metal band "Universum 25" wrote a song about waiting.. called "Wir warten" (We are waiting):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCrQsxK_nPA

Maybe they should add FAB to the waiting list..

[proper dew]

The fab Twitter Account reposts more and more posts from people who sell products on fab. Why does it take them so long to finally release it?

[viscid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/swiss001-waiting-im-waiting-gif-25689250

[glossy idol]

I wish they had done a release date for it rather than just saying October 2024. Even if it was at the end of the month, I'd rather know a specific date instead of the month.

[proper dew]

True

[undone valve]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-waiting-check-watch-gif-27333543

[drowsy plaza]

I really hope it releases today, it’s the end of the business week so unless they release on a weekend they will end up releasing next week

[drowsy plaza]

They have reposted like 5 different posts today and it’s only 8am. Maybe it launches today

[proper dew]

I sure hope so

[drowsy plaza]

I hope the sales either stay the same or get better because this month was pretty good on the marketplace. I sold something pretty much everyday

[proper dew]

It would be really weird if they released it next week. The staff on the forum already said this week and epic has been so vague about a release date for the last months, that the staff wouldnt tell us anything precise unless they are 100% sure.

[worldly flower]

buuut.. 21th ist the last 3rd of themonths.. so technically not the Mid ^^

[proper dew]

Lets just hope today is the day.

[next badge]

maybe Fab is the friend we make along the way

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-goku-gif-5183679

[mellow obsidian]

you sold something? damn happy 4 u

[drowsy plaza]

Yeah, this month has been good.

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-mark-meme-ireetable-gif-9511739422236118481

[silver nacelle]

But then it don't leave them room to delay it for last minute issues which is probably whats happened🤦🏼‍♂️

[tiny mason]

Do you know? Will we be able to install Fab PC app?

[earnest moss]

Is it fab? Where can I check it

[proper dew]

Not a single announcement today. Thats really sad.

[undone valve]

Uff. How many products do you have?

[undone valve]

There will be Fab.com the website and an engine plugin like Quixel so it seems. i wonder how that works for older versions like 4.27 then

Have we gotten any information about what will happen to Free For The Month?

[proper dew]

I think i read somewhere on the fab forum that it will continue in a similar fashion but with some changes.

[drowsy plaza]

Nope, I have feeling we will be waiting until next week

[hushed zealot]

COMING IN OCTOBER

[proper dew]

I really hope you are wrong. But its probably true.

[drowsy plaza]

Me too, I wish it was out now

[echo egret]

The announcement changed from Mid-October to a more generic October I see... at this point I hope ain't gonna be November. My concern anyway are prices and assets quality... in terms of pricing I'm concerned prices will generally arise basically like happened with prices getting doubled when in European Union back in 2002 the Euro became the only coin. the same "overprizing freedom" can extend to my second concern about quality... will Epic still manage applications like always happened or sellers will have more autonomy? I'm concerned about that because, specially thinking about marketplaces like SketchFab not all asset follow a high quality standards. I might be wrong... and I honestly hope I am, even if that might make my life harder when I start introducing my own products in.

[fossil dune]

https://tenor.com/view/patiently-waiting-gif-24386883

Hmm. maybe a weekend release isn’t so bad. After all, there will be less traffic going to servers and the servers won’t be overloaded on launch….

[undone valve]

My hopes are still that it launches today

[undone valve]

I think on weekends there is even more traffic as many hobbyist are only working on weekends in UE. And anyone who works with it as their job will check it out anyways.

[meager dust]

Launching on a Friday is almost always a terrible idea

[proper dew]

Its already 18:06 here in Germany so they better hurry up.

[undone valve]

This chat is full of Germans. I am too 😄

[undone valve]

They do that for nearly every Fortnite update...

[meager dust]

Well it ain't an update really

[hollow basin]

As a person that lives in the same timezone as epic games, they still have 5 more hours of the standard working day so there is still hope for today release

[fossil dune]

I don’t know, most of the sales i make are during the week. Rarely on sundays and a surge on Monday/Tuesdays.

But yeah im sure they have the traffic stats. you maybe right

[drowsy plaza]

I doubt they will do an evening launch, it will probably be next week

[mellow obsidian]

get prepared for sunday 4 am launch 🚀

[echo egret]

Something might be going on, the launcher is getting stuck any time I restart it. Just saying!

[proper dew]

Please dont give us hope. I feel like its not gonna release today.

[undone valve]

For me the launcher is fast as usual

[drowsy plaza]

I wish it would but it’s 3pm in epics offices right now so it probably won’t. Unless they are gonna do the meme and push to prod at 4:59pm

[vale prawn]

They announced Fab in march '23 to be released in late '23, and here we are. Their estimate was off by nearly 300% so far. By that standard, when they said "next week" last week, it probably meant early november.

As usual, kind reminder that the guy who made that initial widely unrealistic release schedule for Fab now leads the engine team.

[drowsy plaza]

Given fab is replacing the marketplace and sketchfab, I’m very happy he was bold enough to delay it when that was needed instead of rushing it out to meet a earlier promise

[mellow obsidian]

everyone set an alarm sunday 4am

[hollow basin]

If they release it tomorrow I am going to claim I am from the future and left you all a hint disguised as a joke

[drowsy plaza]

Please be from the future

[tame compass]

ergh when it release

😭

[proper dew]

Probably never

It was all a big prank

[drowsy plaza]

Given they took the banner down on the marketplace today, it might have been a giant troll

[untold bay]

My guess is they are discovering last-minute issues in staging, and fixing them, but discovering other such issues at the same time

so the release date becomes a moving target

this is not surprising given how many moving pieces there are, and given the high stakes of errors given that Fab deals with payments and purchasing

[drowsy plaza]

Hopefully they don’t make us wait for the Monday if it’s ready on Saturday or Sunday

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4374453

[untold bay]

would you launch, on friday afternoon, a product that proved to have a series of last minute issues every day up until then? i know i would wait until monday 😅

[drowsy plaza]

As a consumer I don’t care which day it launches

I’m just really excited

[untold bay]

same, i miss checking in on all the new releases every day

i geek out over cool assets and there have been only a trickle of releases lately

[drowsy plaza]

Yeah, I typically only buy stuff when I need it for something though. I’ve spent money before thinking I would use it and never did

[proper dew]

Wouldnt surprise me if they suddenly announced another one year delay next week.

fab probably never existed in the first place

Its like The Day Before. Exciting posts about it everywhere, delaying it a few times and a week before it finally releases they throw together a cheap product.

[dire meteor]

Sounds like half the AAA games these days.

[proper dew]

I would laugh about it if it wasnt so true.

[viscid phoenix]

Fab being an asset flip you said?

[proper dew]

Fab is probably ChatGPT generated

[drowsy plaza]

chatgpt dreams about being able to create something as good as fab

[mellow obsidian]

guys, lets make our own marketplace

is there a frontend dev here otherwise it will be chatgpt'd

[fossil dune]

https://tenor.com/view/tomorrow-liljames-gif-12747850

[mellow obsidian]

dw guys i will make a marketplace with better analytics and things for devs

[drowsy plaza]

You got like 3 days to make it and get people on it

[mellow obsidian]

yh sure

[warm knot]

It would be nice to have a type of freelancer option where a contractor and a buyer agree to a price for work to be done. The dev finishes his work and uploads to Fab. The buyer takes a look to see if the work was actually done as promised. Then after the dev and buyer click a button to finalize the transaction then the buyer can download the work and the dev gets paid.

Or does this option already exist? I feel like this could eliminate a large portion of fraud that I hear about online. Fraud where one or both of the parties scam each other.

[digital agate]

that's a good idea!

[still basin]

Maybe you describe something like Fiverr and unfortunately 90% od the bidders are bots or fraud

[warm knot]

Yeah, fuck Fiverr lol.

[still basin]

yeah most of them resell what on the marketplace already and you can get in trouble for using their "work"

its like those "highly talanted 3d artists" that spam every Discords and DM you to sell art 😛

[digital agate]

just for the handling of the finance side, Epic looked after the payment until both parties agreed the work was done.

[warm knot]

Well, I've never messaged anybody at Epic but if somebody could forward this idea to them then that'd be great.

[warm knot]

That is absolutely disgusting what those people do...

[undone valve]

Someone tried that. It failed miserably

[undone valve]

The goal of Fab is to unify marketplaces and not to create another Fiverr or Upwork

[drowsy plaza]

I remember that, he sent me an email trying to get on there.

[hollow basin]

Yep I got the invite to participate. Biggest problem was no hype for it. It had very few products, which led to very few customers. And since there were very few customers, very few creators joined it. Vicious cycle. You have to convince customers and creators to join at the same time in order for it to work. There wasn't enough to incentive to join

[drowsy plaza]

Yeah, usually companies like epic ,crytek, unity provide their own HQ content for a while to hopefully get their stores enough users to entice creators. Same things with games, steam and epic games store started as first party exclusive platforms

[warm knot]

Gonna have to wait for Max Comperator to make better one then. 😔

So who was it that already tried that and failed miserably?

[drowsy plaza]

Crytek failed on their asset store but I think that was more because their engine was hard and unreal was better than because the store was bad

[drowsy plaza]

I forgot its name, but some guy back in the summer emailed mid- high selling creators to join a new store he was making. It was kinda shady though because he just went on the marketplace and got sellers emails then cold called us out of the blue with no credibility behind him and his store.

[warm knot]

OK, but that's an obvious scammer. Anybody who fell for that one wasn't exercising discretion, if you ask me.

Now I wonder which platform already tried the idea and phailed miserably. There must have been some variables that the programmers didn't foresee which allowed scammers to come in. There's gotta something that they missed. I'd rather not say, "Well somebody already tried that and they failed, so that means we will too."

[tepid niche]

is there a place where i can get flipbook textures?

or what would i search for

[hollow basin]

In my opinion you would need three things in order to be successful in replacing the marketplace. A good reputation, hype, and a lot of money. A good reputation brings in creators to want to sell. Hype would offer customers something to be excited about like new features, better searchability, more/better products. And then a lot of money so that you can pay staff to run support tickets, payment processors, and all the other hidden costs (server storage, asset validation, etc.). No one person is likely to be able to start this successfully

[drowsy plaza]

Yeah if it happens it would be by a company like synty, kitbash, or other well established and respected companies that already have their own storefront for first party

I think fab was supposed to release today because the timer for the marketplace banner announcing fab stopped today.

[hollow basin]

There was a timer?

[drowsy plaza]

Yeah their editorial stuff works on a timer

They don’t manually add and remove it

Well I guess they manually set the dates for it

[hollow basin]

oh ok i understand what you mean, I thought you originally meant there was a countdown timer that was there. For a second I was wondering why we were guessing if there was a timer all along

[warm knot]

Epic already has all three of those things. 😋

But even if you do have those three things you can still fail. For example, Ubisoft has a good reputation, or at least used to, yet they're considering filing bankruptcy. Hype doesn't matter if the product sucks anyway and that reminds of Battle Bit: that game was hyped up quite a bit but I didn't fall for it because any moron could clearly see that game was a load of bool. And also money doesn't guarantee success either; look at Concord and you'll see that it took $400M to make and yet it sold only 20,000 copies. That game performed so poorly that Sony refunded everyone. 😆

But also let's be real here, do you really need billions of dollars to make the one feature that I was talking about? If you need that much money then I'd wager that the company in question is scamming the investors.

[hollow basin]

The three things I said before (reputation, hype, and money) is what I would say you would need at the minimum. There are other factors failure like poor leadership, bad workers, or even a bad economy. Those examples you gave would probably fit more in the poor leadership category mainly for Ubisoft and concord. Although I would say concord had very little hype as well. You are right that you don't need billions of dollars to make the one feature, but you do need a substantial amount to have everything leading up to that feature (assuming you are making your own system from scratch). The most successful thing that you may be implying is a system something like orbital marketplace. It builds off of unreal's marketplace and has some features that it does better. I am pretty sure the maker of Orbital is in this Discord somewhere, they might have some useful insight

[warm knot]

That'd be cool to see an Orbital spin-off just for the one feature if that's what it takes. And I agree that poor leadership and bad workers are a large part of the equation.

[loud dome]

I'm pretty sure they are dealing with last minute stuff in regards to fab.
The showcase rotation that should have ended at the 12th is still rolling. Meaning they didn't plan for a new showcase cycle before fab launch.

[wicked oasis]

fab where?

[digital agate]

fab near

[tepid niche]

I wanted to buys something on the marketplace, but thought I'll buy it on fab, now I wonder ... also what if they upped the price on fab?

[dire meteor]

What if they reduced it?

[tepid niche]

That would be awesome, then I would buy a one more ^^

[earnest moss]

Soooon ™

[earnest moss]

And separate on 3 different marketplaces ?

Hmmm

[dire meteor]

My point was that speculating on price is only going to paralyse you.

If you need something, buy it.

If you can wait for fab or the next sale, do that and see what happens.

(or just buy it anyway)

[tepid niche]

I just wanted to test fab out, but maybe not ^^

and the price thing, do you really think anybody made it cheaper?

I theory it should be because now you can accomodate better with the tierst

Also another "minor" concern, if you buy something now, and the seller won't migrate it to fab, you wont have it in your fab library ^^

so basically my point is: where is fab? 😅

[digital agate]

It will be here next week - I like the fact that rather than just rush it out they've not cir-cum to pressure and I respect that.
I also think most products will have the same indie tier price - and hopefully the more expensive products will have reduced prices for indie, but hard to say.
If vendors raise their prices they risk loosing sales

[dire meteor]

That's a valid concern for sure (@natchz)

[vale prawn]

Speaking of, I actually do need some things from the MP, except any purchase at my workplace needs at least a week to go through. So I've been seating here for a week, judging whether to try to get this through before Fab, or just wait until sometime, at which point my credit line may or may not have disappeared 🤷

[dire meteor]

Paralysis strikes again!

I wouldn't be surprised if this very issue has severely reduced MP sales in the last month.

(if not longer)

[digital agate]

anything that hasn't been migrated over by the vendors gets migrated by Epic, so all products will be there. Anything they have to Migrate looses out on the "no comission on indie sales for the rest of the year"

[digital agate]

yeah I'm on almost 1/2 my usual sales this month

[dire meteor]

Has that been happening for a while? Or just tihs month?

[digital agate]

just this month

[dire meteor]

Ah. Well hope it picks up again soon!

[tepid niche]

I'm always thinking when ppl say, at least the are not pushing out a half finished product.
They have to be finished already, it's such a big product, the announced mid october quite some time ago. I think it would be insane, if there is last minute bugs, that appeared and that's why they are delaying it.

It either is organizational things, like getting sellers to migrate or internal stuff, but the product, the store itself has to be done and ready.

[undone valve]

I stumbled across multiple bugs already which they then fixed

I also don’t think it’s about reviewing migrations. If you update a product now they basically review it instantly. So they don’t have a long queue

[tepid niche]

Yea but they can't have game breaking bugs in there system, after such a long development time in general and also the last month after announcing the launch.
If they did not manage to get at least the basic functionallity up and running, then there will be things after launch also

[tepid niche]

Yea I think it's something like that, so they get more time to review the migrations. Otherwise the store is half empty and every day give a few more migrated products

[undone valve]

I had pretty game breaking bugs. For example my changes didn’t save and I got random “this side wasn’t found errors” even though I went on my seller page and “no connection to service errors” and I wasn’t able to access my account.

[dire meteor]

Have you seen the launcher? What makes you think fab will be any better?

[tepid niche]

I was scrolling through the market place lately and thought, how is it possible, that even scrolling is so buggy there.

Then I thought, oh because they are not investing to much resources in there, because they are investing them into fab 😅

[tepid niche]

Hmmm 🤔

[undone valve]

But they fixed all those

[tepid niche]

tbh i don't really get why they are doing it this way. with no fixed release date "mid october" where i would say the 21. is not really mid anymore.
Why not just get it to a point where you can say ok we are ready and then announce it.

[tepid niche]

Yea but it's still a million dollar company developing for years.
But I guess some things you just figure out when it's used by the masses idk ... 😅

I just wanna see it ^^

[undone valve]

Yep definitely. It’s always the masses that find weird bugs

[digital agate]

yeah, there's no way you can account for every obscure way the masses will try and use the functions you've built. In my entire career I've only ever released one version of one product that worked 100% out-of-the-box

[dire meteor]

They've been investing a lot of resources into the launcher and it's still shit.

[analog oak]

Hello, how can I install non-Open Source plugins, models from the marketplace on UE 5.3 from source code.

[honest cypress]

just place the plugins in your project plugins folder for starters

if they require being true engine plugins then just put them in the engine plugins folder

[analog oak]

No, I mean how do I download them? I click the download or add to project button in the marketplace, but it says to me that there is no such engine or project. Only those with unreal

Only if you download from the Epic Games library? Or you can somehow avoid filling up space with a second unnecessary unreal engine

[dire meteor]

You can try one of the other marketplace apps. Orbital or something.

[honest cypress]

an insanely silly part of the launcher I hope we do away with when fab comes out

[cedar bone]

this is one of the things epic is criticised for, there is no official way, the only one is to have launcher engine installed and download for that, then copy to source version

there are some tools out there that allow u to workaround that and download without launcher engine installed, but i dont remember the names, just look on github

if u tinker with it its possible u can do a workaround on your own, like downloading the launcher engine and then deleting the biggest files manually, but not removing it from launcher so it takes very little space, but launcher thinks its still there

[mellow obsidian]

fab is just an abstract social construct

[proper dew]

a social experiment

[mellow obsidian]

i bet fab will be only available inside fortnite

[gritty granite]

I have source unreal engine 5.4 fully compiled, but marketplace is not recognizing this source engine. You cannot install this plugin as there is no compatible engine installed What is the solution ? How can I link my custom engine to Launcher. Should i have to install UE5.4 from launcher again. This is like the weakest and the most frustrating problem i have ever faced 😅

[cedar bone]

literally the same question lol #fab message

[gritty granite]

ideally they should give an option to link a custom engine which took 2 hours to "build" so that we can use the marketplace assets that we "purchased" instead of downloading the same engine just for this issue. This is the most basic issue and really should've been fixed by now.

[vestal sluice]

Ideally they should give us the option to download the plugin for any engine version manually, or install the plugin directly into any project with the appropriate engine version.

[vale prawn]

@analog oak @gritty granite Some of the tools that @cedar bone was talking about. Hopefully they won't be needed anymore in a few days.
https://assetmanager.studio/
https://github.com/AchetaGames/Epic-Asset-Manager
https://lutris.net/
https://github.com/derrod/legendary (https://swires.me/2023/07/using-legendary-for-unreal)

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https://tenor.com/view/staring-meme-bald-guy-staring-gif-16652283412331227052

losing my mind over fab

[hasty kraken]

what's up with fab anyways? shouldn't be it already out?

[drowsy plaza]

The theory is they ran into some last minute issues and couldn’t release it

[sleek imp]

You need to compile the plugin for your engine version

[trail heron]

thats what they said 1 year ago too 😛

[sturdy hawk]

Honestly, building a marketplace platform is really not that difficult. I made Orbital Market just for fun (and to increase visibility of my products), and with just a couple of weekends, I made a pretty cool search engine that a lot of you guys love using.

I'd say the three things that are (really) hard are:

• Make people come in to sell stuff
• Make people come in to buy stuff
• Build the financial system for international payment, tax support and wire transfer to sellers

But the platform itself, honestly, a single decent full stack engineer could handle it in 6-12 months.

[dire meteor]

There's the problem. "Single" and "decent".

There's probably far too many people invovled.

And there's no guarantee they're any good. 😛

[sturdy hawk]

100% agree. That's why there's always a few startup that manage to build better products with a team of 5 than big companies with a team of 500

[trail heron]

they're also not just creating a marketplace, they are merging and migrating from multiple different projects, which were each individually created by initially entirely separate companies.
as usual, its easier to create something clean from the ground up than to fix up all the shit from years of prior development.

[sturdy hawk]

That's true, but I wouldn't consider this something vastly more difficult. Just a bit more difficult. They're still building somehting from the ground up that should merge data from other places. But the data is fairly similar, and they don't even import written reviews and questions.

[trail heron]

getting an audience, both to sell from and to. is definitely by far the hardest though as you said. which is part of why it makes sense to migrate pre-existing marketplaces as you get to bring over a good percentage of existing clients.

just hope they don't utterly screw it up and make it an even more terrible experience xD

[sturdy hawk]

I believe it will be a lot better! Now, will it be any good in absolute terms, that's the question 😬

[drowsy plaza]

Didn’t you just build a generic search engine for an existing platform by using the existing APIs of that platform? This would be like claiming it’s easy to build YouTube if you make a site the takes the YouTube API and displays videos to people via a simple keyword search.

[trail heron]

maybe we'll actually get functional UI and usable search filters, that would be a big step up

[sturdy hawk]

I built like 10% of a real marketplace, I'm admitting it. But that marketplace slice is (I think) far better than their search slice.
Now, I think it's not that difficult to build a marketplace because I've got experience in web development on bigger projects.

[sturdy hawk]

It's already looking better, I truly hope we'll get an advanced search!

[drowsy plaza]

To be completely honest with you, I’ve tried orbital market and can’t find the products I need. One search in the marketplace and what I need shows up first or second page. I typed “spline” on both and the marketplace showed relevant stuff to spline tools, yours showed PCG alternatives, actor animators, roads, and other stuff not really related to the stuff people want spline tools for like spline meshes.

Technically roads are spline meshes but just showing spline meshes tools would be better

[sturdy hawk]

Hum, I'm perplex as the marketplace result will show anything with the spline keyword sorted randomly, whereas Orbital Market will sort it by relevance and popularity. But there may be something not working correctly 🤔.

[drowsy plaza]

How are you sorting beyond popularity? I had to scroll a while before I found spline mesh tools or stuff like Ism splines.

[trail heron]

whats gonna happen to orbital anyways? juust gonna turn into a relic of the past or?

[drowsy plaza]

I think the reason the stuff like actor animator showed up in search was because somewhere in the long description it mentioned the keyword spline. If you do a search update maybe put a counter on description keyword pickups so to sort top it needs to mention more than say 5 times.

[sturdy hawk]

Popularity is computed with the number of reviews, the mean rating and the release date of the product. Relevance is computed with the number of occurence of the word (or related words) on title and description.

[sturdy hawk]

Likely, it will depend on the search features of Fab. Best case scenario, it will only be used to see legacy reviews and questions. Worst case scenario, I'll scrap Fab to continue to make it work.

[cedar bone]

well i would not be so sure, they could do it already in launcher anyway, for years, and didn't
truth is fab has completely nothing to do with the launcher

its like ppl said, they should make it so u can download your assets, any version u like, any time u want, without the need to have any engine install at all as there are different needs

to be honest i dont understand why there such limit in the first place, it doesn't make any sense

but who knows, fab will be more universal, also for unity, and a proper asset only store, so i think they just cant keep this nonsense rule, that would be absurd

[trail heron]

talking about terrible UI xD i litterally just got this when opening the EGS

what fkin game epic????

please tell us what you think about "game"

its crap like this that makes me anxious about FAB lol

bruh it popped up a third... while i'm just on the store homepage and ranting on discord xD

[sturdy hawk]

(I notice that I might have sound a bit harsh about Fab, I'm truly hopping it would be as awesome as Epic says it will be. For now, I'm pretty convinced, but we saw so little... It's just that I'm a bit bitter after years of no change and unfulfilled promises of the current marketplace. Orbital Market is far from being perfect, it was just my take to make thing a little bit better.)

[undone valve]

Thank you for creating this masterpiece

[undone valve]

Personally, I always get way better results on Orbital Market and way more options to choose from. As some sellers do not tag or name their product very well.

[undone valve]

FAB is coming next week.

A fellow dev asked their team.

[trail heron]

source?

[undone valve]

#432949078373040140 message

Its a german UE server

[silver nacelle]

I mean, anyone could have said that tbf would be different if they could specify a launch day

[trail heron]

so, 1 person on a random discord said they talked to someone at epic who told them next week?

next week is a pretty safe bet at this point tbh but this is definitely not a trustworthy source of info imo

[meager dust]

my uncle who works at nintendo energy

[proper dew]

I dont trust any of those statements anymore tbh.

[undone valve]

He is completely and 100% trustworthy. I follow him for years already. He is a cool guy.

You can of course not believe him but I definitely do.

[trail heron]

yuhuh.

i mean... last week devs from epic themselves said next week...

[undone valve]

Last year they said October 2023...

[trail heron]

but now this random guy on discord is 100% trustworthy?

[undone valve]

Its not a random guy. That is the point

Well

For you he is

[proper dew]

Hes a well known youtuber in the german ue community

But i still dont trust any of that. As @trail heron said, epic staff themselves were wrong

[trail heron]

unless he actively works on FAB or can speak on their behalf, or has a valid verifyable source within either of those the information is nothing more than speculation

[undone valve]

To be fair, even if he works on FAB he could still be wrong.

[trail heron]

yup, but then the information would still be valid and trustworthy.

[undone valve]

Anyways, just wanted to share that. I found my peace now

[meager dust]

I still don't get the Fab hype

What problem is it actually solving?

[drowsy plaza]

It’s likely coming next week; they probably ran into some last minute bugs that needed fixing. They already shut down sales on the marketplace and have all the code made.

[drowsy plaza]

Its unifying and replacing sketchfab, marketplace, art station, and quixel into a single app/site with better discovery

Epic games was having to maintain 4 different platforms, now they can focus on one platform

[meager dust]

so not really solving a problem with marketplace specifically

but artstation is an absolute wreck

genAI slop, boobs, and genAI boobs

[trail heron]

my hope is that ir fixes the god awful UX of marketplace. functional search filters and UI for starters.

but none of that has really been clearly shown so....

we'll see

i'm skeptical but hopeful i guess xD

[meager dust]

I've been increasingly skeptical of Epic in general tbh, just hoping that UEFN doesn't lead to UE enshittification

[undone valve]

Why aren't they announcing anything btw? They do 0 public communication

[proper dew]

Because its epic games and they procrastinate the hell out of everything.

[proper dew]

Tim sweeney said they want to merge ue and uefn in ue6, lets see how that goes.

[meager dust]

Tim Sweeney is a professional distributor of hot air

[undone valve]

Please not

[subtle plover]

I don't feel like this myself tbh

Great strong features in the new releases with more potential (nanite, lumen, megalights, volumetrics, Niagara, world partitioning, PCG, etc), lots of people getting megagrants funding, frequent resourceful YouTube breakdowns, megascans, ...

[meager dust]

other than the Unreal Fest talks being uploaded, there's not much value in what they upload to YT

and there is a lot of skepticism in general for what they do outside of the engine that isn't FNBR

EGS being a big example of that

and even with the engine, you have to treat something with a lot of skepticism if Fortnite doesn't use it itself

[tepid niche]

FYI I love orbital market and I hope they took some parts for fab.

[pulsar nova]

oh?

[unreal stratus]

^ came here immediately to share that lol. They do Gumroad sales often, so could be that, but otherwise 🤞

[proper dew]

That would be crazy if they released fab tomorrow

[split iron]

Every now and then they release something truly good but it gets buried by the rubbish lol

I do wish epic would start something new, meaning not Fortnite

Something with multiplayer vehicles in particular lol, like UT... But not that community experiment

[meager dust]

If they made a new game it'd be an "experience" in Fortnite

[split iron]

Makes me sad

[flat island]

What would you buy without a second thought for $1?

(category blueprints)

[unreal stratus]

I wouldn't trust the quality of any blueprint asset selling for $1

[flat island]

😔

You wouldn't even risk it for $1?

[unreal stratus]

at that point make it free or sell it for $5 -- it's a psychological thing (at least in my case), $1 feels like the creator didn't have any confidence in their work

$1 is "AI generated texture spam" territory

[trail heron]

nothing.

theres plenty of free shit on the marketplace i wouldn't even try to mess with tbh

[flat island]

Ok

[trail heron]

good documentation and support from a reputable dev. then sure.

i'd pay for it,

the problem is that so much on the mp is just junk

[cursive chasm]

If you need to rely on the ue marketplace for support then you are better off just going to unity and buying off their marketplace.

[flat island]

Would you buy that for a dollar? https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/interactions-component-push-pull/questions

[unreal stratus]

I'd buy it for $14.99, I wouldn't even click if it was $1 -- that's what I mean by "it's psychological"

[flat island]

Out of curiosity, I would buy it for $1, but not for $15, I'd rather make it myself

[unreal stratus]

you'd also be opening yourself up to an audience of cheapskates imo and they are gonna be the most demanding in terms of support for some reason

[flat island]

This is 1 of the minuses

[drowsy plaza]

That’s a complete project, I would not buy that for any amount of money. Components should be made as plugins in c++ for easy use. Adding blueprints gets messy if you do it too much.

[unreal stratus]

100% agreed, didn't even notice that

[flat island]

Mabye something required project settings

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/survival-game-kit-v2

This for $1

?

You would 100% buy it, even out of curiosity

😅

[meager dust]

I wouldn't buy it because it's doing too much and it's 100% BP

and $1 would just have me dismiss it as low quality

[subtle plover]

Yeah at that point free assets are more enticing

[meager dust]

like yeah free assets have my curiosity because it's like a couple of clicks to claim it

no payment details or anything

[flat island]

In the case of this asset, I am surprised that even though the creator of this asset has been patching errors in this asset until now, it still receives only positive reviews.

[unreal stratus]

99% of those "reviews" are discord verification requests

[flat island]

So you wouldn't buy anything? Even just out of curiosity to learn something new?

[meager dust]

interesting way of gaming the system

[flat island]

$1 isn't really much😅

[cursive chasm]

I hope Epic added a "connect your discord" to FAB so as to pass that verification along once someone purchases. 😄 just to mess with those -ssholes. 🙂

[meager dust]

selling for $1 either means "I don't value my time" or "I didn't spend much time on this"

[flat island]

Maybe the approach, I will do something for fun, I will devote 1 month to it and I will sell it for $1

[digital agate]

So are all the ratings that are just verifications still going to be transferred over to FAB but without the comment so no-one can tell they're just cheats?
Also - what about those famous "hold as captive" 1 star ratings. I have one on a product, it clearly shows the solution the customer is asking for in the documentation, I answered in the rating the solution - but they never removed it - so do I get a 1 star rating without people being able to see it's a noob that can't read?

[drowsy plaza]

1 dollar isn’t even an option last I checked, minimum paid price is 5 dollars. Anytime you are asking for money of any amount there needs to be a value proposition that appeals to the consumer buying it, just being cheap isn’t enough proposition.

[trail heron]

correct 😄

cuz details are not important. -someone at epic

[flat island]

On Fab.com you can list for $1

[drowsy plaza]

We’ll see, but as long as you only have 1 or 2 people leaving 1 stars I think it’s reasonable for someone to chalk it up to a disgruntled customer. Usually when I see products with mostly good stars but a couple 1 stars I chalk it up to that

[drowsy plaza]

Oh I guess they changed it, interesting

[digital agate]

The rating system means nothing if those validation ratings are transferred - it's a joke

[charred mica]

And they won't have moderated for sure.

[pulsar nova]

I absolutely would, many assets in the three digit range are shoddily made and some of the most impressive code I've seen came from cheap and free ones

I feel like this might come from people making assets as a product vs someone building a system and deciding they might as well sell it for a few bucks

[hollow basin]

They did change it. They wouldn't even let you sell for free before fab (unless it was plugin)

[drowsy plaza]

What was their reasoning for not allowing free stuff that were not plugins?

Ive seen materials like that cel shader for free before, so I didn’t know they limited it

[mellow obsidian]

bro fab didnt drop yet? lmao

[digital agate]

yeah I'm pretty sure you could submit free non-plugin content - I checked once after an AI vendor trying stating that and there was a big option for "Free"

[hollow basin]

Other than they wouldn't make any money of the purchase, I don't know why. Maybe it could be done off special request, but no option for it through conventional methods. I had to make my own Google drive link and posted the asset I wanted for $5 since that was the lowest price but the link was there for the blueprint part only, the demo map and additional assets was accessed through actual purchases. Fab now allows it though, but I am pretty happy with how works so I am just going to continue the current method just on fab

[drowsy plaza]

its the weekend, they are not gonna drop it until some time next week during business days

hopefully its in the early part of the week and not later part

[eager jacinth]

Hi, do anyone knows when the FAB will be released?

[drowsy plaza]

I think they were supposed to launch on friday because thats when the marketplace banner went down, the license type showed up in the reports, and the substance banner popped up

[drowsy plaza]

nope, probably sometime next week

[trail heron]

Soon™

[drowsy plaza]

imagine tim sweeney comes out and says fab was all a ruse. that would be funny but sad

[trail heron]

just open UEFN and you can start using FAB right away 😛

[drowsy plaza]

its not the same sadly

thats the alpha and a lot changed

[trail heron]

you hope 🙂

[mellow obsidian]

maybe after elections

[meager dust]

Legit hoping this to happen with UEFN and Verse

[cursive chasm]

It’s weird they want to support blueprints and verse. Seems redundant.

And I think they said during the last opening session they’ll roll everything up into UE7 at some point in the future.

[hollow basin]

It's my understanding that verse is supposed to be faster to program, but I can't imagine it being faster than c++. I thought blueprints were a good way to learn because blueprints only allow you to physically plug in the correct types. Like I can't plug in a string into an int variable. Where as a c++ coder could accidentally do that. UE Blueprint was my first programming language when I was 13 and while I wasn't good at it, at least I didn't have a bunch or red error lines with an explanation paragraphs long. If anything I am guessing it's supposed to be easier to use on verse so that they can make money off of fortnite kids wanting to make maps through verse

[wicked oasis]

are we there yet?

[warm knot]

NO.

Are we there yet?

[fossil dune]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593

[split iron]

Why are people eager for it? I legitimately don't understand tbh

[worldly flower]

Sellers get 100% of the Revenue to the end of the year.

It maybe has much better sorting and filtering.

It may be faster than the Marketplace..

You don't need to huzzle between mutiple stores to get your assets into UE..

Just to name 4..

[hasty kraken]

why they are not any discounts on marketplace? 😄

FAB? 😄

[hot peak]

From what I understood, Tim said in Seattle that they are effectively looking at two paths in UE6. The "complex" one which is BP/C++ with new high-end rendering features. And the "easy" one, which is derived from what is now UEFN including (Visual)Verse/SceneGraph. I think that makes more sense than just replacing Blueprints entirely. But that is somewhat off-topic here. 😅

[thin ice]

HI, when are going to release fab?

[proper dew]

Yeah they are preparing for fab.

[proper dew]

Never. Fab never existed in the first place. Jokes aside: Its extremely unclear. Staff on the forum said this week but it didnt happen. A german UE youtuber asked epic and they supposedly said next week.

But nobody knows 100% tho. We are just hoping and speculating at this point.

[vapid crow]

hmmmm... could be awesome... could be disastrous

[drowsy plaza]

I just hope they keep c++ around, all my plugins require c++ and I don’t want to recode them in a new language

[tame compass]

is this mid october ?

😭

[thorny compass]

I don't understand either 🤷‍♂️

[dusty hornet]

can anyone recommend a good inventory plugin similar to resident evil or deus ex?

[unreal stratus]

Inventory System X

[subtle plover]

No way C++ ever disappears if you ask me

[proper dew]

Am i the only one who doesnt understand why epic created such a horrible looking language like verse instead of just adding something well known like lua?

[dire meteor]

For the metaverse!

[proper dew]

Miss me with that. This whole metaverse stuff is so ridiculous.

[dire meteor]

I dislike it.

[proper dew]

I just want a proper engine and good games, not some metaverse thing.

[dire meteor]

That's why we have UE as well as UEFN.

[proper dew]

You will not believe what i am about to tell you.

Have you already heard of tim sweeneys plans for ue6?

[dire meteor]

I've heard some rumours.

[proper dew]

https://x.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1743881571742945745?t=CF2hhGyp7iK8BEPhKk_qdw&s=19

Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic) on X

@WarforgeXP @MegaVSPrimus Not in 2024, but it’s coming. UE6 = UE5 + Verse + rough deployment parity into Fortnite and into standalone products + metaverse economy + standards + ?? magic TBD.

Twitter · Jan 7, 2024, 6:25 AM

[thorny compass]

It kinda different from Lua. Also the world is full of ugly langs, yet ppl use them.

Actually, I think it is an interesting project.

[dire meteor]

I've heard much more specific rumours, but I don't see anything in that tweet specifically that is worrying.

[drowsy plaza]

Someone on Reddit says it’s classless, so epic can make stuff and the creators of the islands can work with that stuff without changing too much or something. I think they called it functional programming, I could have butchered that explanation but that’s what I took away from it

[drowsy plaza]

Ngl I hope UE6 makes network replication much easier like how UEFN and Roblox do it, where the code automatically replicates to everyone

I’m just getting into network replication after doing singleplayer for 3 years, and it’s different for sure. Still trying to figure out some stuff like how to use multiple input bindings of the same key for different abilities

[dire meteor]

"the code"?

[proper dew]

Not sure what you mean by more specific. I only know that ue6 is supposed to be ue5 + uefn + (meta)verse. What worries me is just the fact that i dont like fortnite, i dont like the verse language, i dont like the idea of this metaverse (at least in the context of fortnite) and that ue will become more bloated than it already is. And this just adds on to the stuff that i dislike about ue5 currently.

[dire meteor]

UE will always continue to get more bloated. If you don't like that, go try Godot.

[proper dew]

Engines like godot or unity are not an option for me. I already have a lot of ue assets, i like the pricing style of ue and ue also has positive aspects like how beautiful the engine can look. If ue gets more bloated, i just hope they let us disable things we dont need. Then it would not be a problem for me.

Its like a double edged sword for me. Has a whole lot of awesome stuff as well as a whole lot of bad ones.

[drowsy plaza]

A lot of the stuff they add is done via plugins which you can disable

The file size for the engine will still be big though

[proper dew]

Thats true.

[subtle plover]

Related: https://gist.github.com/MilkyEngineer/a1e953f87509877adc4587cf8776c8a2

You can disable all engine plugins and get a way leaner ue version going

[real obsidian]

does anyone know if plugins update automatically for ue5.3 if there in your project?

if so how do I disable it?

[undone valve]

If you mean plugins you put into your "Plugins" folder then no. They dont update automatically.

[real obsidian]

Well, no I believe I made the plug-in into a project and am using it as the base for my game

[real obsidian]

and the plugin is in content not in plugins

[mellow obsidian]

fab only available in fortnite + you pay with vbucks and they deduct 30% for every sale, just like roblox

LMAo

[jaunty dagger]

Gross

[real obsidian]

can I move a plugin from content to plugins?

and should I ??

Im using it as a template for my base game so idk if that would make sense

[digital agate]

yeah, move it to your plugins folder - you can reference them with /MyPlugin/ rather than /Game/

[real obsidian]

can i ask what the benifits are other than organizing the project folders?

just curious

[digital agate]

That's the way Epic recommend - I've never tried having a plugin in the Content Folder - I would have thought it wouldn't find it and start it up - are you sure that you haven't got a copy in the Engine/Plugins folder that it's running?

[drowsy plaza]

Has anyone tried running ads for their assets with success before?

[still basin]

I want to start doing that but I wait to see how it goes with FAB, I hope we will be able to measure the effectivness of the ads

[hollow basin]

Other than youtube tutorials/demos, no. But those did help quite a bit. If I needed to look up something for a coding problem I always default to youtube so I wouldn't think other platforms would be that useful for me to advertise on. Maybe reddit? But I don't know. Also depends what you're selling I guess

[drowsy plaza]

Fab says that discounts can only be done 30 days after publishing, does that mean fab won’t have any discounts for a whole month

[digital agate]

that's from the time you first publish your product I think (the same applied to the MP)?

[hollow hatch]

How can I find characters like those in games like Love and Deepspace or inZOI?

[vale prawn]

https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/it-s-now-moving-into-late-october-2024-when-is-fab-going-to-be-launched-for-use/2075725/5

[proper dew]

So probably later this week or even next week. Great.

[undone valve]

If you have a “Plugin” in contents then it is not a plugin

[cursive chasm]

I really enjoy reading through the questions people have about the FAB launch on the epic forums. Abby is doing a great job about it. But she really threw me for a loop.

I’m unsure that our previously purchased plugins will be either Personal or Commercial licenses.

She also mentioned something about having to agree to a new FAB agreement upon the asset creator using a new file format. Whatever that means is beyond me.

I’m going to be pissed if all my previously purchased assets all of a sudden are locked for “personal” use only.

I kind of purchased these with the intention of using them commercially otherwise why did I buy them? Makes me think this two tiered system will shaft people then help anybody earn more money.

[undone valve]

The should have just done a proper per seat pricing and purchasing system and nothing else

[cursive chasm]

Agreed.

[sleek imp]

Personal license is for commercial use.

[quasi ether]

Okay, got more updates for all folks submitting their UE marketplace plugins to Fab 🙂

They said this:
For the output logic, there is no written rule about it. We commonly offer suggestions that can be seen as improvements to products that are undergoing reviews.

For the "doesn't function as intended" line, I mentioned two issues that could be easily fixed. For the issue regarding the output filename, an option that could be implemented would be adding the current time to the filename to ensure that all files would be unique and not just the same file being overwritten every time a new recording starts. The second issue is about better debug options to let users know what is happening, as stated in the PDF. Let me know if you need more information about this one.

But then I asked this: does Fab Technical Requirements have a specific rule that requires me to provide users with extra UI thingy or handle output logic in some special way i.e. auto generate output file names? If there such rule, can you provide me with a hyperlink?

They still didn't send me one 🙂

Probably good thing that they started to care about submissions to Fab marketplace but honestly this feedback "add this, add that" doesn't make sense. It is not like they can guarantee that resolving all above those issues is going to increase number of sales or smth like that lol

[meager dust]

from hearing from one of my ex-colleagues about publishing to UE marketplace, it seems that reviews tend to be rather arbitrary

so I doubt Fab is any different in that regard

[quasi ether]

Yeah, it is either an intern is trying to do their best lol or just a reviewer that is in "lets improve quality of Marketplace assets" movement

[cursive chasm]

Then what is a extended license for? Personal != Commercial license.

[dire meteor]

For people who make a lot of money with your product?

[sleek imp]

Personal license is basically indie license. If you make less than 100K gross per year. There is a post about it on the forums. Go check it out.

[undone valve]

I will go ahead and review all the paid plugins I purchased now so the creators have a good day

[dire meteor]

That 100k gross per year is worded so badly. It makes it sound like if you earn money in a completely unrelated job you need the bigger licence.

[proper dew]

Thats probably why they added the "digital content industry" part recently.

[vale prawn]

My legal team got back to me about that "digital content industry" and said "we have no idea what it means, there's no legal definition of this". So now we're trying to get in touch with Epic about that, because from my legal team perspective, that rule is is really poorly worded. That contrasts with Unreal's new EULA (i.e., with licence per seat), which had more or less the same idea in mind (i.e., pay more if you make more than X), except from a legal standpoint it was very clear.

[proper dew]

I dont earn over 100k, but it would still be interesting to know what exactly they mean. Please let us know when you find out more.

[undone valve]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-bored-gif-13620810

[next badge]

fab, the man the myth, the myth

https://tenor.com/view/rip-akira-gif-16936975290578584459

[proper dew]

fab = Fiction And Betrayal

[viscid phoenix]

still time to mid october, don't fear!

[silver nacelle]

April fools!

[drowsy plaza]

I need fab

[subtle plover]

Same

[hearty swallow]

This seller has some models that look similar i was also looking for some. or you could make your own with daz3d or metahuman. https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/profile/IdaFaber?count=20&sortBy=effectiveDate&sortDir=DESC&start=0

[tepid niche]

For all interested in the license tiers https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/how-do-the-license-tiers-work/2028455/12

[proper dew]

Where is the "Never existed" option?

[tepid niche]

I was not able to add more options, might be part of the conspiracy? 😅

[proper dew]

It definitely is haha

[undone valve]

I think you can replace the Monday option

[analog oak]

Can I somehow import Game Animation Sample into my ue 5.3 project? I just need these animations and in ue 5.4 all the textures looked like they were wet and I went back to ue 5.3. Even if this was fixed in 5.5, I don’t want to leave the computer for another 2-3 days to build an engine from resources. Because I have 6 cores and only 16 GB of RAM.

[tepid niche]

unlikely but still possible 😅

[untold bay]

You generally can not migrate assets backwards in version. As I understand, the animations are also unlikely to be useful without the motion matching database because they are much more granular than typical animations (eg. not designed to be selected via motion matching DB)

whatever this wet texture issue is, is likely solvable. it sounds like a source of roughness data isn't hooked up right and you're getting 0 roughness where you're expecting something closer to 1

[analog oak]

As I already said, I don’t have a very powerful computer and I don’t have the opportunity to constantly build an engine from resources to update to a new version and build a dedicated server. Or maybe there are some sites where you can download similar animations for free? But not mixammo because half of the animations are missing and they fit a little crookedly on my models

[pulsar nova]

I mean if you actually want animation sample animations you can export them from 5.4 and import in 5.3

[analog oak]

How?

[vale prawn]

Export to FBX, import as FBX

[analog oak]

And if without installing the 5.4 engine?

[hollow hatch]

I don't know how to do

[cursive chasm]

Oh joy, so to get the source code for a plugin I need to purchase the professional version.

From my limited knowledge a LOT of c++ plugins need rebuilt/recompiled for macos/linux/etc because the plugin developer doesn't have the platform I'd need it built on.

This is great, wonderful. Glorious. I love it. 😄

[split iron]

Since I've heard talk of optional plugins here before, and needed it for my own purposes, I figured out how to do it. I'm not overly happy with it because it feels a bit hacky. Here is the info for anyone else.
https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/get-a-define-in-code-if-plugin-is-loaded-and-build-into-project/371418/10?u=vaei

[proper dew]

But doesnt the personal tier also include the source asset? Or am i not understanding you correctly?

there is
personal reference only
personal reference + source
professional reference + source

[digital agate]

"personal reference" is as the name suggests - it's to give you the ability to see if the product will achieve what you want. It's the lowest tier.
The other two tiers aren't "reference", they are fully equipped, ready to go - including source code.

[undone valve]

Just out of curiosity. What happens if a seller has the same product on both the UE marketplace and sketchfab? Can these people somehow merge them?

[proper dew]

The important part is: the lowest tier doesnt include the source asset, the 2 higher tiers do.

[drowsy plaza]

You can export them all as fbx files then just reimport. It’s the .uasset file type that can’t be downgraded

[silver nacelle]

I thought personal reference was just fot UEFN

[proper dew]

Yeah reference assets are (currently) only possible in uefn. Maybe theyll add something similar in ue.

[sleek imp]

I think there is a plugin for downgrading assets. I haven't used it tho.

[tame compass]

is that free ?

[rugged wren]

Are collections of material functions something which can be listed on the marketplace/fab? If so, does anyone know if it would be better to submit these under the "Material & Textures" category or the "Tools & Plugins" category?

[dire meteor]

I'd go with Material and Textures myself.

If that's wrong, the marketplace team will tell you.

[rugged wren]

👍 thanks!

[sleek imp]

FAB IS LIVE

[next badge]

FAB LIVE

🥳

https://www.fab.com/megascans-free

damn just one button click to claim all megascans assets

thats neat

[vale prawn]

Well, I have my answer as to whether they migrated wishlishts : Fab doesn't have wishlists. This is starting well...

[hollow zephyr]

what??

[sleek imp]

can anyone find the analytics dashboard? 🧐

[next badge]

nvm lol only the ratings got migrated

[chilly escarp]

Anyone else lost reviews on their products? Seems inconsistent

[sleek imp]

yes

2 of my packs have 0

[chilly escarp]

Hopefully a temporary error while the migrate, but thats a bummer

no new analytics tools in the backend as well, damn

[sleek imp]

A moment of silence for the Marketplace 🪦

[hollow zephyr]

I searched for my packs by name and nothing

[steel patio]

Same, cant even find my own assets. This is very bad

[hollow zephyr]

it's very odd

[pliant forum]

I'm very happy that I took screenshots of all my Wishlist items. This sucks

[vestal sluice]

finally 🥳

[vestal sluice]

Odd because its working well for me. I tried many different combinations of my plugin and it seems to show up in the top 5 items.

May be related to how the tags are setup in publisher settings

It seems typing my seller name yields no results

[vale prawn]

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/fab-epics-new-unified-content-marketplace-launches-today

[chilly escarp]

Search works fine for me, product names, parts of of product names and seller name all show my stuff at the top

[vale prawn]

We’re aware of a few things that aren’t working as expected at launch. We’ve documented a list of known issues here and we’re currently working through each of these items.
There's no link 🤷

https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/fab-list-of-known-issues-at-launch/2080070

[steel patio]

Probably, will check this later. Thanks

[shell wolf]

how to use unitypackage asset to unreal? I downloaded one in the fab store

[chilly escarp]

It's weird that my 5 star rating with almost 20 Reviews doesn't show up still and it's not on the known issues list :/

[fossil dune]

THeres no sales report or analytics?

[thick sluice]

Unreal Engine files are available in your Vault in the Epic Games Launcher, or the Fab UE5 Plugin.

i dont see the fab plugin 👀

[pulsar nova]

you cannot just download the unreal assets, still gotta use the launcher at least I'll probably be able to just grab fbx for anims and meshes directly now

[glossy idol]

At least you got that many reviews. The most reviews one of my products has is like 3 reviews lol. Wish there was something EG implimented that would encourage people to leave ratings and reviews.

[chilly escarp]

Yeah just a reminder after adding it to a project after a week or something like that would be nice

[glossy idol]

Yeah just a little "What did you think of this product" pop-up and it gives you a quick option to rate and leave a small comment.

[sturdy hawk]

If you guys want to see legacy written reviews and questions, they are saved to Orbital Market: https://orbital-market.com/search

[raven quarry]

ohhh my goddddddddd

[chilly escarp]

How is orbital market still better than FAB after all this time😆

[steel patio]

Whats up with controlled copyright trademarks like this? Can i buy this asset and use it in my project now? 🤔

[glossy idol]

I take it orbital market just searchs all marketplaces and puts all the results into 1 place like what fab is trying to mimic?

[vestal sluice]

I've been trying to find it myself. Is there no sales and analytics page at all ?

[fossil dune]

Yeah this would be a disaster if it did not make it to the very first version.
Can't find it either. Maybe they will add it by tomorrow and not next month.
Sellers would just be expected to sell blindly not knowing how their products are performing...

[chilly escarp]

dont buy that lmao

[sturdy hawk]

No, it's just the Unreal Marketplace with advanced filters and sorting

[pliant forum]

I'm mostly curious about the supposedly new system to verify users whom have purchased your products

[fresh sphinx]

I would assume the original seller dashboard would still update previous sales made until the new dashboard is implemented

[fossil dune]

Yeah this is very much needed. i doubt they will add it though. they never respond to this query

[pliant forum]

Just let us see the "Order IDs" we've sold, so users can give us their ID's and bam, done

[chilly escarp]

So they saw that we misused the question to verify users and decided to just remove questions completely instead of offering a solution

[glossy idol]

is the fab website being slow for anyone else?

[chilly escarp]

this would be all we need

[fossil dune]

Right?? the same order ID they get sent to their email

[pliant forum]

Seems like a simple enough solution to me honestly

[vestal sluice]

This is seriously lame. It's the analytics and sales info I was looking forward to checking, and now they don't even show the sales data.

[proper dew]

Yeah

Hopefully its a good sign.

It changed

[fossil dune]

"here's your share, you've only made $20 from 1 sale this month"

Lol imagine end of month and sellers will start believing epic is ripping them off real quick

[proper dew]

It got updated!

FAB GOT RELEASED

[raven quarry]

welcome

the "My Library" tab busted for anyone else?

[chilly escarp]

It's just really slow atm

[tardy charm]

It's suffering from everyone trying to access it lol

[glossy idol]

Not busted, just slow loading at the moment. Give it a few mins

[proper dew]

Fab actually exists, im impressed to say the least.

[raven quarry]

fair enough

[proper dew]

And there is actually a button to claim all megascans. Awesome!

[loud brook]

Where's the sales report on Fab?

[chilly escarp]

doesn't exist

[fossil dune]

you just got to guess how much you made 🤣😅

[glossy idol]

Has anyone else checked their vault under the library tab in the Epic Games launcher. Mines only got 3 things in it now.

[raven quarry]

?!?!?

[chilly escarp]

Did you migrate your products?

[raven quarry]

no im a buyer

[chilly escarp]

Ah lol

my bad

[raven quarry]

as in I don't sell anything on the MP lmao

nah dw

[glossy idol]

Were you thinking of the publisher tab then? lol

[glossy idol]

My vault looks like this on the launcher....

[chilly escarp]

The servers are just dying at the moment, don't worry

[glossy idol]

I had loads of stuff before

[raven quarry]

looks like i have everything in the vault

[raven quarry]

check categories? JIC

[glossy idol]

I had way more than this before

[raven quarry]

i will literally give up on game dev if i lost everything not even lying lmao

[glossy idol]

I say I'm gonna give up on game dev daily regardless of what's going on. That's normal game dev life.

[raven quarry]

yes that is fair

okay fab flatlined

[vale prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-all-folks-ending-cartoons-looney-toons-gif-8344269

[chilly escarp]

The Library doesn't even show half of the products that I published myself, we'll just have to wait till they boot up enough servers

[raven quarry]

it doesn't work lol

[glossy idol]

Has anyone found a sales page yet on fab or do we have to stick with the old UE market one for now?

[raven quarry]

didn't think there were THAT many of us

[tardy charm]

That's actually just a problem with the epic launcher lol. I've been having this one for months

[glossy idol]

Game devs are everywhere. We just never know who each of us our cos none of us go outside lol

[pulsar nova]

I'm glad the mature content guidelines on fab seem to be more like artstation, the marketplace was crazy restrictive

[raven quarry]

😭

the outside is shit anyway

[glossy idol]

Feel called out? lol

[glossy hamlet]

Fab down?

[glossy idol]

Yeah

Most likely server re-boot

[glossy hamlet]

that's FABulous...

[glossy idol]

or we all crashed it

[loud brook]

This one setting might save Fab

[raven quarry]

exactly

[tardy charm]

Every dev and their extended families are trying to access fab, the servers are really dying rn

[raven quarry]

correct and i don't like that

[glossy hamlet]

That's like 10 people

[glossy idol]

I like how UE 5.5 came out today as well so now all my products are technically out of date lol

[raven quarry]

it did?

[fresh sphinx]

Not even an hour and we overloaded the site

[glossy idol]

Well preview did

[raven quarry]

yeah preview did

[chilly escarp]

hasn't it been out for a week or even longer?

[raven quarry]

was considering switching from 5.4 but i hate switching engines cuz plugins and etc break and it's a pain

[glossy idol]

Fab?

[chilly escarp]

5.5 preview

[glossy idol]

oh don't think so but then again I'm slow at noticing these kind of things

I'm still on 5.0 but thats cos I know some people still use versions between 5.0 and latest and having a few versions available for marketplace assets helps with sales.

[glossy idol]

Anyone else think that's fucking useless?

[loud brook]

From my experience, extremely few people care about older engine versions. Have had strong sales for more than a year and so far I've had maybe 4 people ask about older engine versions

[hasty kraken]

fuck it's super slow ;D can't even load the page

[glossy idol]

It's crashing for most peeps atm. Servers are overloaded

[hasty kraken]

did they port wishlist?

I had over 40 items in there

Don't remember them all 😄 kekw

[glossy idol]

I mostly do 3D stuff / UI stuff so 5.0 or 5.4 aint gonna make a difference for my products. Only difference is I tick and extra few boxes when publishing and that's it.

[loud brook]

Ah ok, that makes a lot more sense

[glossy idol]

If I knew how to code and was doing some crazy plugin stuff, then I'd only use the latest version lol

[chilly escarp]

From my experience most people are within 2 versions of the latest engine version 😄

Especially if it's just a hobby indie dev things take time to release

[long mortar]

By the time u start a project & a year passes you are 3-4 engine versions behind. We started a project last December & we haven’t ported cause it’s always a new version coming

In 5.1

[glossy idol]

Thing is there's this weird phenomenon known as sods law and it predicts that the minute I don't make something available for a slightly older version, the first comment on my product will be "Can you make this available for engine version x".

[long mortar]

Although my new projects use 5.4

[long mortar]

Lmfaooo.

[chilly escarp]

had someone ask for 4.26 support recently

[glossy idol]

Dafuq

[long mortar]

Ik a guy who won’t stop using 4.26

[tardy charm]

4.26-27 are commonly used versions for those sticking to UE4

I know a few people who refuse to budge from 4.26

[long mortar]

Yeah he thinks performance is better in ue4

[vestal sluice]

Most older engine use is just for VR as well

[glossy idol]

I was gonna say I do see a lot of stuff with VR only supporting old versions of the engine

[livid olive]

I'm desperate. I spent all of yesterday and the day before pre-selecting plugins and VFX to buy for my project. I planned to finish my selection today and buy everything together. But today, without warning (did I missed something ? ), everything disappeared.

I also had my wishlists ready to purchase, and now they're all gone. Honestly, I'm so frustrated. If anyone has a solution, please help.

Some of the plugins I wanted aren’t even available anymore on their crappy Fab store 😭

[glossy idol]

If the product is not available on the Fab store then the publisher has not migrated the products over from the epic games marketplace or they haven't been approved for publishing by epic games yet.

[livid olive]

I’m so upset that I didn’t buy them yesterday 😭 . They could have at least put up a message to warn about the change today. I would’ve at least taken a screenshot and placed my urgent order last night.

Thank you for your reply !

[chilly escarp]

If it makes you feel better they also don't communicate anything with the sellers on their marketplace 😄

[vestal sluice]

Now I wonder what is the percent of devs who don’t plan on migrating because they gave up

[chilly escarp]

true, it could be a bit of a clean up now

[glossy idol]

I do think this transfer over to fab was also a way for epic games to purge abandoned products from the marketplace as well.

[vestal sluice]

Very likely

[long mortar]

I read that products that didn’t get migrated epic will put up on sales page

But those products won’t be eligible for the 100% revenue until 2025

[arctic plover]

Seems like fab.com is getting hammered

[tulip dome]

Yeah was just going to ask if everyone else experiencing the same 😄

[arctic plover]

Oh great. So the claim all quixel thing doesn't work right. Have a feeling people are spamming getting the ones not covered by the claim all button

And if I look at my library on fab, looks like nothing has migrated

[glossy idol]

fab also keeps crashing lol

[unreal stratus]

I was just logged out of Fab, and when I logged back in, my Library was finally populated with my existing purchased assets

[tulip dome]

Even new stuff you add doesn't seem to show so I'm assuming the library isn't displaying correctly

[glossy idol]

My vault just re-populated also. Didn't need to log out for it either

[feral pivot]

what is a "smart asset"?

[unreal stratus]

the missing vault library has been happening for quite a long time -- but wanted to confirm that your existing Library does in fact exist on Fab as well

[glossy idol]

That motion scanner looks familiar lol

Someone changed the channel name. SOMEONE CHANGED THE CHANNEL NAME! I'M NOT READY FOR CHANGE! Aaaarggh! lol

[echo egret]

The waiting was killing me so I shut everything down for a few days... is it on!??

[fossil dune]

they've enabled "delete" listing... now.

Can someone report the missing sales report page

[arctic plover]

They should make another marketplace channel so people can talk about old assets if they want

[glossy idol]

Someone posted earlier that the sales report page won't be avialable for a few weeks.

[dim fable]

wheres the wishlist

[fossil dune]

i don’t think anyone posted that

[glossy idol]

#fab message

[raven quarry]

oh crap i forgot to back mine up

[fossil dune]

Thats a post from 14 Days ago.
The “ Next week” in the message means last week

if i understood it correctly

[raven quarry]

phew

[glossy idol]

Then no idea what's going on with the sale report page.

[arctic plover]

My library just populated. That's a relief

[vale prawn]

In the series "things that don't exist anymore", after wishlists, I give you embed cards. Very useful to guess what product lies behind that URL.
https://www.fab.com/listings/23639453-220c-4550-8436-2967be3dd82f

[floral depot]

My wishlist 😦

[arctic plover]

Quixel still hasn't populated right though

Only a subset shows claimed

[glossy idol]

I think its going to be another week or 2 before fab is "stable" with all things that are currently missing.

[arctic plover]

Hopefully sooner than that. Thankfully I still had a tab open with my wishlist

[shell wolf]

so you cant use unity assets in the unreal?

[chilly escarp]

how would that even work? Do you mean like models?

[coarse ore]

so im assuming once i hit download its supposed to appear in my vault...but nothing does

[echo egret]

I just saw there's an option to claim all Megascan, which I just did,... does that mean we don't need to download the entire library to fully own the assets?

[arctic plover]

That's how it's supposed to work, although it doesn't seem to be populating correctly yet

[coarse ore]

i hit download on this https://www.fab.com/listings/6a5ae8db-d80f-4b23-b276-87da390cfe56 and it says it will be in my vault...its not

[shell wolf]

its just icons, can I install unity and export the texture to unreal? Is it ok with the copyright of fab?

[chilly escarp]

this should be fine to do (I'm not a lawyer)

[wicked oasis]

everybody has characters under smart asset

[echo egret]

That's not a problem, will be fixed, the most important thigs is to know we are safe once made the claim. They didn't mention that option by the way, so it seems they are clearly keeping an eye and hear to the community concern and doubt. Thanks for the feedback!

[wicked oasis]

Should character model be under 3d assets or smart assets? I'm confused

[chilly escarp]

Smart Assets: Character & Creatures is on the front page, so I'd put it in there 😄

Not sure if they rotate that category selection

[astral lantern]

Agreed. Was surprised to see no button or anything to go to the seller site. The old one is still online it seems.
I hope this is added as soon as possible since it's really important for sellers.

[narrow wave]

I take it the Fab engine plugin isn't available yet?

[wicked oasis]

Smart assets category says 3d meshes with scripts for interactibility so having charcters under that makes sense to me

makes no*

[trail heron]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-question-mark-gif-15766501

[loud brook]

is anybody else noticing that the publish date on products is completely incorrect? Mine came out in 2023, now it says 2024

[unborn hare]

Does anyone know how it behaves with the licences? If I buy a "personal" licence now and in theorie the game gets some attention later that the 100k get breached, do you need to repurchase all the assets the used with the professional license or is it just the status which is current (last 12 months) that counts?

[past pond]

Phew, my vault in the launcher seems so have been restored. My life flashed before my eyes when it was only 10% filled.

[unborn hare]

my library is also completely blank now

[trail heron]

i'm having the same anxiety atm xD just giving it some time

[past pond]

I already made a backup of my vaultcache and added everything I needed to a project just to be sure. This saves me 600GB :X

[trail heron]

can't imagine they'd get away with just poofing thousands of dollars worth of assets in my library into thin air (granted most were free but there at least a couple hundred bucks of paid ones missing too)

[narrow wave]

So is there no wishlist or is it just hidden?

[past pond]

They already are by not porting the wishlist

Just not your dollars 🙂

[trail heron]

i never used the wishlist so thats honestly not a big deal to me, but i can imagine it affecting sellers, as well as just being a hassle

[vital island]

REleased? Oh wow

[past pond]

I saved my vault and wishlist as html so im good, but it seems some sellers are not on FAB

[dim fable]

is it just mean or can you not click on images to zoom anymore

[narrow wave]

Good thing I screenshot my wishlist thinking they would do something this dumb

[past pond]

Epic be Epic

[narrow wave]

epic

[past pond]

I'd just wish they added tagging to the library/vault so I can finally see everything I need to update for my project without having to scroll 5 miles

[trail heron]

lol every time i refresh the fab library in the launcher it gets a bit bigger... but on the website it still says i own nothing.

[past pond]

Rollout is probably going to take a few more hours with all the traffic the servers are getting

[chilly escarp]

Just wait a couple hours or a day and it will be fixed

US West Coast is just waking up and the server load will still be high for some time

[narrow wave]

I hope all 18000+ Quixel assets don't individually show up in the launcher's library

[trail heron]

that.... is a very concerning thought indeed

[chilly escarp]

That would break the launcher

So it will likely happen

[narrow wave]

That would require it to not already be broken

[tawny hinge]

we have to agree to the new EULA to get our old content? -_-

did anyone read through that already?

what are the twists, how many organs do they want?

[floral depot]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[chilly escarp]

Legally your DNA is now part of the Quixel Library

[past pond]

Electron Framework is very stable, I heard it from my brother. Very stable, the best framework in the world even. Fantastic.

[trail heron]

i didn't? i just opened the egs launcher and went to the library, some of the stuff was already there before i clicked or did anything else related to fab.

[tawny hinge]

ah, i want to check if can download plugins via browser now

[obtuse void]

are my wishlists nuked? Or will they come back eventually?

[unborn hare]

mine still empty where can I sign the EULA xD

[trail heron]

presume they are nuked, hope they come back.

[wicked oasis]

Wow not many people included the ability to inspect 3d models

[chilly escarp]

There is a huge button on the front page of fab to get the quixel megascans

[hearty swallow]

I believe they changed the publish dates on older assets to "modifed" or whenever it was migrated to fab.
Are the product page images supposed to be this big or is it just my PC. i have to scroll down for useful information. Its just huge like its a youtube video. i liked the way the old UE page had and unity does.

[trail heron]

yeah i do appreciate they made that a single button press.

[narrow wave]

In case anyone wasn't convinced there would be a Fab plugin

[undone valve]

Is it released?????

[drowsy plaza]

Yes

[undone valve]

WHAT ONG

[trail heron]

no

[chilly escarp]

That's by design, on my screen I see the first 3 lines of the description

[drowsy plaza]

Well fab looks good, a little bummed about it having roughly the same discovery as the marketplace but search seems to work better. I misspelt a product and it still showed up

[arctic plover]

Vault seems harder to navigate. There's like a million categories now. Hopefully the fab plugin is organized better

[trail heron]

huh.... it seems to also include anything new they release prior to 2025. which is neat

[chilly escarp]

in other words they will not release anything until January

[vale prawn]

But they didn't add the "filter by update available" option. Phew, for a moment I thought I would not have to play the "find the orange dot" game 🫠

[trail heron]

"some displacements and older assets from Quixel have been discontinued. They will no longer be available to download."
this does seem stupid imo. just add them to a legacy or archive category or the likes.

[drowsy plaza]

has anyone been able to find the sales reports page for fab yet?

[chilly escarp]

it's not live yet

[drowsy plaza]

does it go live tomorrow?

[fossil dune]

wondering what the plan is until they add it... for sellers to sell without any reports?
they can say soon, but with epic soon doesnt always mean soon

[chilly escarp]

No one knows

[narrow wave]

They don't specify which assets?

[chilly escarp]

We will see if the sales still get updated in the old publisher area

That one is still accesible

[trail heron]

not as far as i can currently tell. i'm sure people will figure out exactly which ones though even if epic doesn't disclose it directly.

[arctic plover]

They really need to add subcategories to the vault instead of lumping everything together

That is primary categories and then sub directories

Vault is practically unusable now. It's a scroll fest

[trail heron]

there is an "age rating" on assets now? xD we gonna have adult content on fab?

[sage igloo]

Maybe it's just a bug, but I'm trying to download this sample scene, and it tells me it's in my vault - which it isn't. Dunno if there exist more up to date spatial audio samples, but this is the only one I found.

[tawny hinge]

there already is some NSFW stuff

[trail heron]

ooh buddy xD

[tawny hinge]

all the fortnite kids get into puberty now, gotta keep them as customer 😄

[chilly escarp]

every marketplace eventually turns into porn

[trail heron]

there will be so much porn...

[tawny hinge]

well, with all the blood and gore assets around.... i prefer skin

yea looked through some assets, and most will probably lead to a shitton of shovelware half assed NSFW games

[arctic plover]

Can we at least filter out the pron so it's not crowding searches?

[fringe pollen]

Also why did custom tags or at least a broad list of tags just go missing. I used to like finding Gameplay Ability System Plugin related products. Everything is just marked gameplay

[trail heron]

reminds me of this video

https://www.reddit.com/r/perfectlycutscreams/comments/d3smn6/tumblr_ceo_learning_about_porn_on_tumblr/

[raven quarry]

oh how much I'd LOVE to have nudity and sex in my game dev marketplace

[trail heron]

read the #rules this is not the place to advertise your work.

[undone valve]

Where are my products. i have nothing in my library?

[tame wasp]

I just upgraded my launcher, the fab tab just redirects to my browser. Is it supposed to be used via browser now?

[trail heron]

give it some time.

[trail heron]

i imagine thats a temporary thing untill they finalize the UE plugin and the EGS page.

[tame wasp]

I really hope they fixed search lol

[tame compass]

is personal sales use different format ? and di i have to email unreal engine marketplace team for it ?

[proper dew]

ArtStation and sketchfab has mature content so it only makes sense.

[hot peak]

It seems not to be ready yet.

[trail heron]

i feel like there should be a distinction between sexual nsfw content and otherwise nsfw content, like gore, horror, "potentially disturbing" violence etc.

[proper dew]

Yeah. I just think its weird that so many assets, even quixel megascans, include bloody and gory stuff but things like nudity are suddenly an "illegal" topics. I just hope that fab will not turn into a cheap nsfw asset market.

[hollow zephyr]

See you next year fab

[worldly flower]

GOD BLESS THIS:

Finally a way to hide AI shit 😄

[tawny hinge]

it will, knowing other markets which allow NSFW, those will probably all try to make sales on Fab, too...

so there will be a shitton of stuff, wonder where Fab is going to draw the line

[tame wasp]

I can imagine working in a professional setting you would want gore visible but not nudity lol

[tawny hinge]

my guess is they allow nudity but not too explicit stuff

[proper dew]

Youre probably right.

[trail heron]

oh no i don't think it should be illegal at all. the nsfw game industry has a huge market share and some of the biggest and best games out there include some "tasteful" nsfw content.
but i am more concerned about the level of quality that type of stuff generally tends to have when made by indie creators.

[proper dew]

Thats what i hope.

[tame wasp]

don't worry there will be plenty of ai content for the quality

[proper dew]

I absolutely agree with you.

[worldly flower]

In Artstation are many nude posing references.. Hope they filter those out and only focus FAB on game related stuff.

[obtuse void]

they should just make a subdomain for all the nsfw stuff and keep it separate entirely, maybe even force you verify age or something

[tawny hinge]

same for gore please

[trail heron]

but that i can now easily hide with a simple toggle. nsfw content is very much a all or nothing type deal. so if i'm looking for gory disturbing monsters.... i now also have to scroll through loads of anime tiddies.

[hearty swallow]

there will be a filter. no chance Epic lets those low quality nsfw assets show up when someone is working in UE Fortnite

[tame wasp]

only thing that matters is can I search for the asset I want and find it. So annoying how many times I know an asset exists but try many keywords and never find it

[long mortar]

Idk if this has been brought up yet. But it seems the licensing is all commerical correct. That if you buy personal its for indies / team with less then 100k in funding. then professional is for over 100k. correct?

Personal is still for commerical?

[trail heron]

here's ur filter

[tardy charm]

The hide AI button is pretty nice, though it really depends on the author to mark their pack as AI so there's a few that slip through.
There's also a minor bug where if you do a search, even if the button is turned on, it will show AI stuff, you gotta turn it off an back on after you do your search to reapply the filter.

[proper dew]

NSFW content has its place if it is done properly, which is rarely the case with nudity content.

[tawny hinge]

my guess is that they will be reported and eventually removed from the marketplace?! 🤷

[tardy charm]

Seems like mature content flags are also incorrectly set for some assets. I don't think a plugin providing blueprint nodes for certain windows functions is mature content lol

[proper dew]

Yes

[worldly flower]

i like the new categories

UI and 2D Assets separated.
Decals as new Category
Materials and Single textures being separted from Atlases

What are Smart Assets.. or better.. how are the included assets related to "Smart"?

[frozen escarp]

it seems that you lose assets that sellers won't support unfortunately

[long mortar]

so what about models that arent for commerical use being sold?

[trail heron]

depends on how bad the spaghetti is.

[frozen escarp]

drop $300 just to lose it u.u

[long mortar]

I see models on there of celebs n shit being sold commerical licenses.

[queen kernel]

If this hasn't been asked, but does Epic have any plan to add the "Wish list/Favorite" button back to Fab? I had maybe 60~ assets that I lost the ability to price track.

[long mortar]

How are they allowed to sell a model of taylor swift for commerical usage for example.

[hearty swallow]

If you don't know, that means you're going to have to use Daz3D and spend money on their asset store. watch a tutorial on youtube. And there's a free plugin for Unreal you can use to convert all the assets for in your game.

[proper dew]

Not sure. If you are sure that they are not allowed to upload that, maybe report it or something.

[trail heron]

if you mean they dont show up in ur library yet you just need to wait a while, the libraries are still slowly getting populated.

[tame wasp]

that's actually Tyler swoft

[long mortar]

Its interesting cause If its a replacement to sketch its gon be full of models that would get you sued

So i dont see how they are selling certain shit commerical

[tawny hinge]

they most likely aren't (also noticed a bunch of car ripoffs)

[hearty swallow]

iirc it isnt until Feb 2025 they will remove all products that sellers didnt opt in.

I see assets that havent been updated in years on fab and in my vault

[trail heron]

they're not. welcome to sketchfab. as the name suggests.... pretty sketchy.

[long mortar]

when you click buy tho it sells you a commerical license

[frozen escarp]

hmm...its gone from my library in the ue laucher too. is that also to be expected?

[trail heron]

aye

[dim fable]

to be fair this is the fate of every marketplace, theres an unending supply of bootleg merch on amazon too

[long mortar]

Whos it gon fall on when a dev gets sued for a model they bought on fab.

[tame wasp]

I keep seeing sketchfab mentioned, is this actually related / linked to sketchfab?

[long mortar]

epic? you? the creator?

[tawny hinge]

you (most likely, may also depend on regional laws....)

[trail heron]

when i opened the egs launcher an hour ago or so i had 5 assets in there, by now there is like 40, and still going up slowly

[frozen escarp]

its uninstalled from my engine versions as well

boys its ggs

[trail heron]

legally its your responsibillity.

[dim fable]

Epic assumes you have license to sell what you list, the seller will be the one sued

[long mortar]

yeah this seems accurate

[loud brook]

Is anybody else not able to submit changes for review? I press the button and nothing happens

[frozen escarp]

the assest was mesh morpher if it matters. guess im gonna have to contact epic and pray

[hearty swallow]

in that scenario, the dev get a legal letter first asking you to remove the offending content

if the dev provides proof they brought it on the Unreal marketplace, there's no legal case. if they remove it, its done. only if they ignore the request would legal proceeds begin

[worldly flower]

Guys - Don't forget to redeem your free Adobe Substance code

[trail heron]

only if you sue the seller. however this does not remove or alter your liability. you are still liable.

[vapid saffron]

Is there a way to add assets to favourites/whislist? it seems this option is gone

[trail heron]

that is not how that works, and such letters are a courtesy, not a given.

[dim fable]

who is "you" here?

[tawny hinge]

where do i find the fab plugin in UE? i have it enabled but i have no idea how to open it nvm, looks like the plugin is empty for now and just a placeholder

[hasty kraken]

yeah my wishlist is gone 😄 😄