blueprint

[zealous moth]

yeah

sleep?

where is that? phys mat?

[spark steppe]

in the physics asset or on the mesh component settings

[faint pasture]

The root of it is that your input adds a torque or force to the ball. There's nothing TRYING to stop it from spinning when you're not adding input

[spark steppe]

or in the material

[upper cove]

this is the logic

[faint pasture]

So do this instead.
Input drives Desired rotation velocity
The delta between DesiredRotationVelocity and CurrentRitationVelocity drives your applied torque

No input = I don't want to rotate. Rolling is rotating, so it'll apply a torque to counter it (holding on a slope)

[spark steppe]

but you need to know the force on it, to apply the torque in the right direction!?

[zealous moth]

hm, wouldn't there be a more physics based solution such as increasing the resting friction or decel?

[upper cove]

that dispatcher is referencing to this inside the umg @faint pasture

[zealous moth]

yeah that's the other issue, math-wise this seems overly complex to get an at-rest stability

[spark steppe]

you could maybe check the velocity when you release any input key, and if it's below a threshold you put the body manually to sleep until a key is pressed again

[zealous moth]

that actually sounds better. Could do either a lerp or delay for that

[faint pasture]

Depends on what you're after. At-Rest stability is impossible unless you're using constraints or some fancy spring/damper stuff. I've done a lot of this making my vehicle tire model

Here's what I'd do to keep it dynamic but have at-rest stability

Inputs add forces

no input locks rotation

so the ball will still be simulating, but it can't rotate (it'll slide if it's steep enough)

[zealous moth]

ohh nice one

lemme try

[faint pasture]

Lock Rotation = just enable the rotation constraints on the body (it's a setting on the collider

You think this is fun, try to make a well-behaved tire that doesn't use hacks like locking position or sleeping.

[spark steppe]

wouldn't raising the friction when releasing input also archive something similar?

[faint pasture]

@upper coveGo even more general.
"I want to change an actors color when I press a button"
or whatever

[zealous moth]

what is that called in BP?

[faint pasture]

Friction is between the ball and the ground. It'll still roll, just with a lot of grip. Rubber ball vs shiny plastic ball

[spark steppe]

i see

how about angular damping?

[zealous moth]

yeah friction is not absolute

[upper cove]

yep i want to change the opacity of a mesh when i press a button @faint pasture

[zealous moth]

hm

[faint pasture]

Cranking angular damping up could stop it

[zealous moth]

lemme try

[faint pasture]

So why not have the actor you're trying to modify show the widget?

[zealous moth]

hm.... how to determine if at rest, it has no movement component

i can get velocity...

[faint pasture]

Get physics velocity or maybe even get velocity

[upper cove]

couse then i'll need to add more of those actor on the scene and each of those needs to reference to different buttons of the same interface

e.g. button 1 make the opacity change on bp_Actor1, button 2 make the opacity change on bp_Actor2, button 3 make the opacity change on bp_Actor3

they are 3 in total @faint pasture

so i would need to create the widget 3 times one on top of each other

[static timber]

an idea ?

[upper cove]

and thats not clean

[faint pasture]

The actor should, on begin play, notify the HUD

or playercontroller

whatever is owning the widgets.

Then the hud takes it from there, and later when buttons are pressed etc, tells the actor

no level BP BS, level BP is a trap

[upper cove]

do you mean whatever is creating the widget?

[zealous moth]

the linear damping did the trick

[faint pasture]

Yes and that should NOT be level bp

HUD is the best place

[spark steppe]

linear or angular damping?

linear would reduce sliding?!

[faint pasture]

Whichever one you want. Do you want it to not ROLL or not MOVE?

[upper cove]

do you mean the widget bp itself?

[zealous moth]

I want it to NOT

[spark steppe]

yea, i'm surprised that he succeeded with increased linear damping

[faint pasture]

no, Playercontroller owns HUD which can own and reference Widgets

[faint pasture]

He stopped translation, not rotation, which accomplished the same thing (not moving)

[upper cove]

where i find this HUD?

so i can open it and create the widget inside it

[faint pasture]

GameMode is where you choose your hud class, but any actor can get the hud from anywhere

You prolly don't have a custom one right now

You can do the same thing from PlayerController, just HUD is the "correct" place.

[upper cove]

would game mode do the job also?

[faint pasture]

Moral of the story.
Actor tells HUD "Hey I'm here", Hud does a thing
When actor dies, it tells Hud "Hey i'm about to die", hud does its thing
When button is pressed, widget or hud tells actor "Hey, change your color"

[faint pasture]

I mean maybe technically but that's gross

[silk roost]

Hi, i have question about changing level, i have scenario where i enter in one point then change level, then back to same level in diffrent place, how i can change player spawn location ?

[spark steppe]

ok, but i would just do it in the pressed/released events

rather than updating it every tick

[faint pasture]

@zealous mothI would personally do rotational only AND lerp torwards it. That way you don't stop in midair, just stop ROTATING and slide when you land.

[faint pasture]

Save it in GameInstance

[zealous moth]

working on it

[spark steppe]

i wouldn't mess with linear damping if its not necessary

[zealous moth]

finally the ball movement makes sense

[spark steppe]

that feels like you would get slow fall if you stop input midair (but that's just a guess)

[silk roost]

that would work for 1 location, but what if i enter one location, and let say i can exit level using 3 diffrent locations?

[faint pasture]

When you are about to exit, write to GameInstance.PlayerCharacterLocation
When the pawn is getting spawned in the new level, read from GameInstance.PlayerCharacterLocation and spawn them there or at the closest PlayerSTart to that or whatever.

Or use a savegame, you'll want that anyways presumably.

[silk roost]

yeah but those are 2 diffrent levels so locations wont fit at all

[faint pasture]

Personally I would set a float variable TargetDamping on tick based on input.
Then later in tick, finterp towards TargetDamping and set it.
That way it's not instant, but has some application time.
I would also do rotation only but it's up to you.

[faint pasture]

In that case, use an int or an enum or whatever

some way to say what exit you're going through

[upper cove]

i would do it in player controller but i have no idea how to open it

[faint pasture]

Do you have a custom PlayerController yet? show your gamemode classes, where you choose the pawn and all that

[silk roost]

enum or int for what? selecting player start ?

[faint pasture]

If you made an enum with Main and Secret as values
On exit
PlayerLocation = Main

On entry, when you choose the playerstart
ChoosePlayerStart(PlayerLocation)
then select whichever one applies

[faint pasture]

You just need to save some info that can be used to choose the player start on the next level.
They can be ints (1,2,3,4), enums (Main, Secret, megasecret, gigasecret), vectors, whatever you want

@upper coveYeah so you have a custom PlayerController. Set it up in there

It'll be dirty but it'll work

[upper cove]

ok

like so

now what am i suppose to do?

inside my actor bp--> get player controller?

[faint pasture]

Yup

Get it, cast it to your custom PC class -> call event on it

Don't create the widget at begin play unless you really need it.

Do you want 1 widget per actor or a single widget with multiple rows in it or something

[upper cove]

single widget with 3 buttons basically, each button of the same widget controls a different actor

what here so?

[faint pasture]

Oh shit, this exists

Just use that

Actor Begin Play -> Get widget of class -> tell the widget the actor is here

Then you can do all the logic in the widget and not touch the PC

[upper cove]

so i can delete this?

the logic inside PC?

[faint pasture]

Are you understanding this or just following along? This will be very long and drawn out if you're not getting it.

[upper cove]

im understanding like 50%, like i donnow whats the event "actor begin play" never heard about
Also im not understanding where should i put the logic you are telling me to

[upper cove]

this

[faint pasture]

Honestly if you've never messed with Begin Play before you really oughta back up a bit and learn the basics.

[upper cove]

so event begin play you mean?

you wrote "actor begin play"

oh you meant the event begin play inside the actor bp

thats it?

[faint pasture]

Anyway, this is the shape of what you want to do. Start with only doing 1 actor, it gets more complicated to handle multiple.

In your actor
Begin Play -> create the widget, add to viewport, tell the widget about the actor (either setting a reference or calling an event)

In the widget
Actor tells the widget it is here -> widget sets some reference (if you did the event style)

On Button Press -> tell the actor to do something (change color or whatever)

Get that working before worrying about handling 3 of them

[orchid garden]

so... my brain fog this morning doesn't want to cooperate....
landscape size it the combine resolution scale of the landscapes on the level
landscape scale is the scale of the landscape(s)
landscape position is the corner most position of the landscape(s).

Anyone see a way to simplfy the math here?

[faint pasture]

for 3 of them, you'll want a widget with 3 widgets inside of it etc.

[faint pasture]

Ya, do it all in vectors

What's the general idea, convert world position into some scaled position relative to the landscape?

[orchid garden]

0 to 100 value based on actor position to the overall world size in the level yes

[faint pasture]

OK so one corner is 0,0 and the other is 100,100?

[orchid garden]

well 0.00 to 100 value 😉

[faint pasture]

But the final output is a float 2 vector right?

[orchid garden]

no world scale can be anywhere from 0 to 126500 etc.

[faint pasture]

If i'm standing on the furthest corner in the landscape, what is my GPS position?

[orchid garden]

er size not scale

[upper cove]

wouldnt be easier to do it with thw player controller workflow as you were talking first?
I'd just need to know how to call the reference of that widget i spawned in the PC logic inside my actor i guess, thats where im stuck rn

[orchid garden]

yep exactly 'whats my gps location'. that example works fine, was just looking to see if i could simplfy it.

[faint pasture]

None of this will be easy if you don't have the basics down. Implement what I last posted and then worry about making it more robust and complicated.

[faint pasture]

I mean what would the value be? 100,100 as an int or float vector or what?

[orchid garden]

0.00, 0.00 to 100,100

[faint pasture]

so floats

[upper cove]

im not a programmer im a 3d artist trying to do my best, i have no programming foundation

[orchid garden]

yep floats, gps is float based.

[faint pasture]

@orchid gardenRemapRange is your friend

[upper cove]

thanks for the info anyway, i'll try..

[orchid garden]

k i'll take a gander @faint pasture, ty.

[faint pasture]

For X and Y
RemapRange(PlayerX, LandscapeMinX, LandscapeMaxX, 0, 100)

Are all your landscapes different sizes?

[orchid garden]

its primarily if its world comp map or just a regular map with a single landscape.
maprange clamped seems to do the trick to simplfy the routine 🙂

ty again @faint pasture

[devout dove]

I want to make a mobile game, how do I test it on my phone? Do I need to use USB or can I use Wifi?

[limber parcel]

umm im having problem with my AI, they can see through actors that i spawned after launching the game, how to fix?

https://tenor.com/view/send-help-help-help-me-help-me-im-poor-bad-situation-gif-15097358

[manic geode]

I have a question. There are tutorials about how to make a base building system in UE5. But there are apparently no tutorials about how to make a spaceship building system in UE5.

Is space ship building system works similar to base building?

I dont know hot to make an array of blocks fly

[limber parcel]

it works however you want it to work

[manic geode]

lul...

[limber parcel]

make new object, that contains an array of blocks

and then move that

[cyan bone]

yup the thing is they are fake armies. so it works. everything has limits. so i will have to draw limits on what will be possible.
I cannot have my armies of instances also be behave like an npc character that changes all body parts, armor etc... But i will test it. If it doesnt work, i can always just allow that to the elite batallions.
And leave the average militia, pikemen, archer, swordsman as static batallions.
The idea is to have something like an RTS, but where you can also change the weapons and the armour of certain units. And thats not that hard if they had skeletal meshes, but they are instance static meshes, so gg...

[frozen stratus]

Anybody got a second to help me figure out why my animations for character movement are being weird(Replicated)

My falling State isn't going back to regular locomotion state on Replicated Testing. In standalone everything works perfectly other than falling state animation doesn't loop when falling from greater heights.

[icy dragon]

Look into programming with ECS.

If you're in UE5 you can also use Mass, which is a built in ECS.

Goes without saying that you need to know C++ to incorporate your own ECS.

[lost heart]

Is it possible to use a properly typed blueprint function as a delegate? I can't seem to pass the function to a node that accepts a delegate of its type (the function was originally a custom event made by dragging out said delegate pin which was then converted to a function)

[static timber]

pls, i have a boolean get by my other bp, i can't do it, i just want checking my boolean, true or false and i have true or false, if true = make that, if false = make that, its so hard

[kindred chasm]

Hey everyone, I'm having what appears to be a very regular problem, but one I haven't found a solution to yet.
I'm trying to make a lever mechanism using lookat, but using only one axis, so when the lever passes the vertical mark, the lookat function assumes it has been rotated 180 degrees in the x so it starts decreasing y instead of increasing it. I have spent days now trying different solutions. I've been told quaternions are the solution, but as far as i can tell that involves c++, so I'm really hoping someone here has a workaround I could use

[manic geode]

Does UE5 have voxels by default? Like if I want to make a block or world voxel destructable

Can i do it inside stock UE5 or I will neet to buy a plugin

[paper galleon]

Plugin. There's the Voxel plugin on the marketplace with a free and paid version.
The paid version is about $200 (I think) but it has a lot of convenient features

[plucky yoke]

How does one access parent events? I'm trying to create a component for handling generic physics collision sounds, which I could just add and configure case by case, but how do I get access to Event Hit of a parent? I'm kind of expecting there would be some "Add dependency" button somewhere, where I could add parent collision as dependency and then have access to collision events of a parent. (and get warning or error, if I try to add this component to something which doesn't have collision)

No idea if stuff like this is even possible without also manipulating parent blueprint. I know UE isn't always the most component friendly system, but this seems pretty basic thing

[drifting steeple]

Hi guys, I want to add crouching animations to the 3rd person Template. I already got the State machine set up but I dont know how I can set the Boean Variable of is crouching to true in the event graph. can anyone please help me with that?

[zealous sundial]

Hum, simple ask : why i've got this added in my combobox ?

[quaint geyser]

Create the same event in the child. Right click the node and then click “add parent event” or something like that.

[quaint geyser]

Can’t you just use the character movement component to see if they’re crouching?

[zealous moth]

@faint pasture @spark steppe

[faint pasture]

That's still gonna be instant

FinterpTo is what i was talking about

[plucky yoke]

@quaint geyser Ok, seems I need to rephrase that one. I don't mean parent component as in "component inherited from", but "component to which actor component has been added to", so I guess in Unreal terms it's Owner

[zealous moth]

hm not sure how i'd do that...

[quaint geyser]

Manually call it in the parent

Create a new event in the component

And on the parent event call it

[plucky yoke]

I was hoping I don't need to call anything in parent, that kind of defies the "slap the component to anything" approach

[quaint geyser]

Or just bind the event

As in get the actor it’s attached to

Cast it to whatever you need it to be

And bind to that event

[winged thicket]

how do i make the player go with the magnet, like its a moving platform
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/225448446956404738/987451552774115338/unknown.png

[faint pasture]

Move it

[winged thicket]

the magnet has projectile movement and physics
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/225448446956404738/987451807833935892/unknown.png

[faint pasture]

Why do you have both projectile movement component AND physic?

[winged thicket]

i meant by physics this

[faint pasture]

Yes. Don't do that. Either simulate physics OR use a projectile movement component.

You have 2 things moving the magnet

[winged thicket]

ok

removed projectile movement

[winged thicket]

but how do i do this

[plucky yoke]

@quaint geyser ah yes, this is it. I already tried this once, but decided to give it another go and figured out UE was trying to be too smart with it's context sensitive list of actions, so I didn't realize this is possible :P

[zealous moth]

that's interesting however very finicky.
If the speed is set to 1, the rev is SUPER slow. and I mean super slow.
However, the damping increase is almost instantaneous

[faint pasture]

Tune it

tune the speed and damping value

[amber hill]

Is there a way to get a contains any in a blueprint?

For example this only ones when orginal is selected not any

[quaint geyser]

Switch the forloop to a for loop with break and break out of it once it is found.

Also probably not the best idea to do that on tick

[amber hill]

Will try that thank you

[amber hill]

Do you have a better recommendation?

[quaint geyser]

A timer or eventbased would be preferable

[amber hill]

I can move it to when a unit is selected

Sweet event based it is

[real notch]

What do I multiply a value per frame by to get it for a second? I need a velocity, but I only have distance traveled since last frame.

[quaint geyser]

Use delta time

As fps can vary

[limber parcel]

why is my behavior tree not going past ROOT ?

[real notch]

But I need velocity, deltatime would only make the value smaller

This is already the distance traveled in 1 frame. I want to convert that to a velocity

[faint pasture]

multiply by deltatime

er

divide by deltatime

velocity = distance / time

you have distance, and you have time

[limber parcel]

its literally just never getting past the first selector, even though its just a normal selector

[real notch]

Thaaaat's the one, thank you! ❤️

[amber hill]

I have done that on a parent controller but none of the button are functional, Do I need to add them to view port?

[limber parcel]

just added a breakpoint and it never reaches it, wtf is this?

i guess unreal engine 5 just isnt in a usable state?

[serene pike]

Some mechanics using timers (All shown are using event tick) seem to show 'client' and 'server' when printing the numbers, despite none of the code (Shown below) having it at all. This only happens when playing in editor without switching to the main menu level first. This is just a group's single player game, is this a symptom of a larger problem or is it just a print issue?

[real notch]

I don't understand

You mean that the printed string includes the text "client" and "server"?

[serene pike]

Every time the timer is printed it'll say server or client, which hasn't happened until this code had been added

[faint pasture]

Assuming breakpoints are a thing in behavior trees, are you sure the tree is being ran?

[limber parcel]

well i have an npc that should use it

[faint pasture]

Double check that it is

[limber parcel]

it worked until i added this sequence

[faint pasture]

ask in #gameplay-ai

[limber parcel]

i have but i guess the guys there are as puzzled as i am

[serene pike]

Yes, I'm not sure what on earth my friend did, but there have been various new issues like this and a cmd prompt looking window displaying the ue logs whenever I run it in standalone

[limber parcel]

when i move my service into the selector it works

but when i move it in my initialize node, it just never gets past root

which makes no fkin sense at all

is it the condition?

or is it my service?

[faint pasture]

You're asking in the wrong channel my man

[south merlin]

I'm doing a line trace and then in the results doing a "Actor Has Tag" and using that in a branch. I'm getting an error that it's accessing none on an actor that does not have that tag. Shouldn't that just be a false?

[zealous moth]

show

[limber parcel]

apparently the issue was running a service without any tasks behind it, adding a wait fixed it...

[lost heart]

is there an easy way to test an invalid delegate via blueprint?

(ie something where !IsBound but also not equal to the value from the default-constructor for a delegate of that type) - I want to check that some C++ code is actually valid

[young carbon]

I have a blueprint that suddenly started making unreal crash when I would edit it, so I decided to remake it from scratch to see where the issue was. For some reason, when I connect that Get Class to the Spawn Actor node and hit compile, Unreal locks up and I have to force stop the process. Does anyone have an idea why that might be? the blueprint is very simple.

[manic geode]

wtf

ban

[tawdry surge]

<@&213101288538374145>

[torn kettle]

:no_entry_sign: Ares9323#5595 was banned.

[manic geode]

scam

oh thx

NEVER EVER CLICK ON THESE LINKS

they are ALWAYS FAKE and YOU WILL LOSE YOUR DISCORD ACCOUNT

[versed sun]

Maybe try assigning the Class on begin play. it might be trying to get the class of something being deleted

[manic geode]

Also 80% of these scams are hacked account, they are just guys who clicked on THAT link a moment ago

[young carbon]

That works great, thanks for your help!

[versed sun]

wow, I pulled that out of my ass, glad it worked

[junior hedge]

ui canvas goes back to 720p after switching to 1080p

[wraith eagle]

Hi guys!
Im new to blueprints and Im trying to make an elevator... it only goes up, then it stays and I cant figure out how to make it go down again..

lol nvm, I made it event tick and it worked, dont know why tho

[junior hedge]

goes back to 720p when I leave

nvm I fixed it I just had to do it a very stupid way (extend black background beyond the canvas)

[slim grove]

im trying to setup my player controller but i keep getting an error
Blueprint Runtime Error: "Accessed None trying to read property CallFunc_GetPlayerCharacter_ReturnValue". Node: Stop Jumping Graph: EventGraph Function: Execute Ubergraph Default Player Controller Blueprint: DefaultPlayerController
and my blueprint is the screenshot

[devout geyser]

@slim grove If the target is character you don't need the get player character node, try deleting the node and trying again ^_^

[slim grove]

that gives a BP compile error

[devout geyser]

try putting the node

get player controller maybe?

[quaint geyser]

You should do that in the player character blueprint

As it can be invalid from the controller

[devout geyser]

ye nvm with the controler

[slim grove]

ah well the tutorial i used told me to use the controller i guess it isnt a good one

[devout geyser]

I made an ai that starts when battery reaches 100% and stops when the battery runs out, so proud of this little guy 😊

[junior hedge]

this should make it so my character goes to the Z(180) but it doesnt

[sudden nimbus]

are you intending it to be relative to the direction* they are facing before this runs?

[quaint geyser]

I believe it might be a control rotation issue

Try disabling control rotation then doing that

[sudden nimbus]

good call

[gentle shoal]

I'm trying to get this enemy AI character's health into a widget healthbar, but I can't figure out what to put in the object path of the Cast To node

[junior hedge]

as in like the mouse controlling the mouse input?

tried disabling it still didnt work

[gentle shoal]

for my player character I just used Get Player Character there but I don't think thats gonna work here

[junior hedge]

the X and Y don't matter so I keep them to what they were before but I want the Z to be reset to 180

[sudden nimbus]

180 world rotation on Z. Do check the CMC "Use Controller Rotation" setting

[gentle shoal]

ah, it's still giving me an error though

oh wait

[junior hedge]

I dont get what you mean by that

[faint badge]

Sorry I didn't see, you're in a widget and not an anim instance like I assumed from you using animation nodes.

For widgets you'd either need what ever makes your widget to pass you a reference to the actor to care about or you'd need to find the actor you care about some other way

Those nodes are for animation blueprints which have an actor that owns them, widgets do not

[junior hedge]

wait

i will set as world rotation

that might be it

[sudden nimbus]

its two things.

1. That will be 180 degrees in world rotation. If you are trying to turn your character from its present rotation* to be facing 180 degrees from that present rotation*, then you should take the current Z rotation and add 180 degrees to it.
2. But that might not be your problem-- if you have the "Use Controller Rotation" setting on the Character Movement Component (CMC) set to enabled, then the controller that has possessed the pawn will override any Z changes you make

[gentle shoal]

thanks, I'll try something like that

[sudden nimbus]

discord this is why we cant have nice things lol

[junior hedge]

i dont think so

[sudden nimbus]

its not a node its a setting

just make sure the Yaw is unticked at least

[junior hedge]

it was on for yaw

but I unchecked and still didnt work

[sudden nimbus]

Is it not changing it at all or not changing it to the rotation you want

[junior hedge]

not changing the rotation at all when executing the script

new script I am using

[sudden nimbus]

oh oops

theres an actor one, but thats only used if CMC isnt in command

these are on Character Movement component

[junior hedge]

i dont see those details

[sudden nimbus]

ignore all the other crap i have on this one

[junior hedge]

oh i see it

[sudden nimbus]

that has its own settings

[fickle dune]

Anyone know how to make it so I can press E and my widget code will work? Just switching from Overlap Trigger Box to E on the trigger box so I can access my widget.

[junior hedge]

they were both disabled

[sudden nimbus]

are you already facing 180 on Z

[junior hedge]

only when the game starts but I use my mouse to move the rotation

[spark robin]

Can I create a variable that doesnt show up in the "My blueprint" panel? I simply need to keep track of an index thats only relevant in a very small section of the code

[sudden nimbus]

you can make a Local Variable that is scoped to the current Function

[spark robin]

Can I do that in the event graph too? :3

[sudden nimbus]

nope 😕

if you dont need latent actions (ie delays etc) then make it a function

[junior hedge]

@sudden nimbus

do you think I can screenshare

[sudden nimbus]

im not really up for that level of 1-on-1 at the moment

[junior hedge]

allg

[solar sequoia]

Are you asking about changing the event from an overlap to an input event?

[junior hedge]

how can I reduce the "sensitivity" on my first person character

aka slower turning

[solar sequoia]

Add a float as a coefficient on your set rotation event and modify the float

[quaint geyser]

Multiply base turn rate by sensitivity

Or just hardcode the turn rate

[fickle dune]

Yes!!

[solar sequoia]

you can add an input binding in project settings, or you can just search for the name of the key/modify an existing input event. The first one is best practice, the second one is hard coded, either one works fine for testing. You should probably do any long-term input in the controller or the pawn

[hybrid horizon]

"Get Owning Player Pawn" is an available node in widgets

[prisma stag]

Hello, I have a placement system that is third person where on tick, an actor will use SetActorLocation (Using SnapToGrid) to show the player where it will be placed. When the player wants to place the actor, I want to call the function GetAllOverlappingActors, to see if the array has any overlapping actors, if so, the actor can't be placed.

However, whenever I go to place an actor that is "inside" another actor, it still can be placed. Here is the code for when the player is moving the cursor around trying to find a location.

I have checked the classes to also make sure that generate overlap events is turned on.

[tawdry surge]

If you mean a child actor component, don't use those.
They randomly fail, lose references, and generally suck

[prisma stag]

No, this is just checking for another actor of the same class. You are placing shelves (Store Manager) and I want to make sure the shelves aren't overlapping.

[tawdry surge]

Oh tick sweep and use the sweep hit result

[silver acorn]

anyone have any ideas why I could be running into this issue

wait nvm

found the issue

I am using the C++ class and not the BP for the cast

[prisma stag]

I tried this however the print string never runs.

[tawdry surge]

Do they have collision?

[prisma stag]

Yep

[tawdry surge]

Do the shelf meshes have a collision, or is there a collision volume on the bp?

[prisma stag]

The shelf mesh does have a collision and the complexity is just set to simple collision as complex.

[tawdry surge]

Ok. Run the print string off a branch instead of the cast, and use the blocking hit pin as the condition

[prisma stag]

hm. Nothing

[junior hedge]

anyway I can make the light not bleed like this?

(epic settings)

[lapis ridge]

Hey guys, I'm making a pawn player and I'm not sure how to get movement working.

I'd use a character but it doesn't work well with VR

[devout geyser]

you might wanna use a pre built template?

[lapis ridge]

Maybe

The problem is that I'm not sure how well it'd work with full body VR IK, which is what my current pawn is built for

[lapis ridge]

What sort of template are you thinking?

[zealous moth]

How would you apply a gyroscope effect to the physics ball rolling?

So that eventually it always ends up rotated back to normal

[mental trellis]

Always apply a small force when it's not the right way up?

[zealous moth]

Force?

I mean you know the morph ball from metroid prime?

[mental trellis]

No

[zealous moth]

It rolls physically....

Oh

I am so sorry

pats

[mental trellis]

In UE, things roll physically when forces are applied to physics bodies

[tawdry surge]

Weebles wobble but they don't fall down

[unkempt valley]

Hey everyone, what would be a basic way to have a characters material change once killed

[zealous moth]

@unkempt valley make an instance and apply it

[unkempt valley]

So far I have this off the top of my head. Not very good with these things

[zealous moth]

Alternatively use a lerp or if statement and change a parameter value

@mental trellis lemme find a vid

[mental trellis]

You want it to be self righting, right?

[zealous moth]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=igy0eorg7hs

Ignore commentary

Yeah like a gyro

[mental trellis]

Do you know why those balls self-right? It's because the centre of mass is not in the centre of the ball. Well, I'm not sure about gyroscopic effects, but that's how a regular ball would achieve that.

You can apply a small force to simulate that.

[unkempt valley]

could you explain a bit more please im a bit slow honestly @zealous moth

[lapis ridge]

Hey guys, my animBP works with a pawn but not a character. Is there any reason that might be?

[mental trellis]

I think for gyros it's about being in a lower energy and more stable state if the spinning is aligned with the direction of movement

Slightly harder to simulate.

[zealous moth]

@mental trellis that is interesting concept.

Yeah but the enter of mass....

Hmm...

[mental trellis]

You don't need an actual offset centre of mass, you can just fake it by applying a force

The more it is rotated from vertical, the bigger the force

[zealous moth]

@unkempt valley it's a material thing. You might wanna practice making a material that flashes and then making your material. I gave you all the keywords

[mental trellis]

(the peak being at 90 degree rotation)

[zealous moth]

@mental trellis by force you mean torque?

[mental trellis]

Torque is a force?! 😛

[zealous moth]

Or centripetal?

[mental trellis]

Well, a force multiplied by a distance

[zealous moth]

Yeah isn't it?

[mental trellis]

It's not strictly a force, but force is a component of torque

Physics

[zealous moth]

In physics and mechanics, torque is the rotational equivalent of linear force. It is also referred to as the moment, moment of force, rotational force or turning effect, depending on the field of study. It represents the capability of a force to produce change in the rotational motion of the body. Wikipedia

I knew I wasn't nuts

[mental trellis]

Yeah.

[zealous moth]

Hmm but I am using a physics object for movement using torque

[mental trellis]

So you could apply a torque, yes.

[zealous moth]

Wouldn't that interfere

[mental trellis]

Only if the torque you apply is big

It depends how drastic you want the effect to be

Normally gravity far outweighs any kind of self-correcting torque you'd apply.

[zealous moth]

Which would make the center of mass a better solution

But...

Hm

Maybe a weight that is on the diameter of the sphere?

[junior hedge]

is there a way I can set an animation for my player character bp?

[mental trellis]

That would force it to self-right, correct

[junior hedge]

i tried doing it on playerstart but it didnt work

[mental trellis]

Set the animation class

or anim instance class

I forget the exact var name

[junior hedge]

Sequence animation*

[mental trellis]

Maybe?!

[junior hedge]

no im saying I want sequence animation

[mental trellis]

You want to play an animation via sequencer?

[junior hedge]

yes

[mental trellis]

I see.

[junior hedge]

No way?

[mental trellis]

Have you tried using the actor sequence plugin ?

[junior hedge]

Nope

Could you send please

[mental trellis]

Enable it and off you go!

[junior hedge]

how

[mental trellis]

It comes with unreal

Go to your plugin settings.

[junior hedge]

says its enabled?

dont know how to use it though

do I need to drag the actor onto the world? because idk if that will work

because I think the player character spawns another in the world

[mental trellis]

Add an actor sequence component to your character

Other than that, I haven't really used it.

[junior hedge]

idk how

ive just been opening sequence and pressing track

[mental trellis]

I may be sending you down the wrong path, tbh.

[junior hedge]

and then I would track transform

its fine

im just trying to learn

[mental trellis]

You're changing the transform of the player start?

That won't effect the player.

[junior hedge]

yeah ik now

[mental trellis]

You need something in the level.

[junior hedge]

I could drag a player in but idk if it will work

[devout geyser]

maybe ^_^

[junior hedge]

bc how player start works

[mental trellis]

idk

[junior hedge]

alright

there an easier way I can just animate the camera?

i just want it to do a 90 degree turn

I was trying to do earlier but wasnt working

[devout geyser]

You can use timeline @junior hedge i think if that's what you are looking for

[lapis ridge]

I'm trying to make a physics-based VR character, the template is teleport-based sorry

[devout geyser]

oh ok

[junior hedge]

tried this didnt work

[devout geyser]

Instead of setting world rotation

try doing relative rotation

[junior hedge]

set?

[devout geyser]

Yeah set relative location

rotation***

and btw you might wanna check out timelines, with timelines you can achieve simple animation with the least effort possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTCLEg697z0

[junior hedge]

I accidently did location which worked (not how I wanted it ofc) but when I did rotation it didn't

so rest of script is right i think

[devout geyser]

imma try something for a sec

[junior hedge]

still the same in ue5?

[devout geyser]

hmm

not quite sure about that

[fierce birch]

how to reduce the snapping effect during character animation rotations in blend space, the interp time manipulation doesnt help

it happens when i press left and right arrow keys while moving

[junior hedge]

did that work?

[devout geyser]

Working fine for me @junior hedge

[junior hedge]

maybe I need to cast camera only?

im doing it from diff script

[devout geyser]

You cast to the parent of the camera

if that's the player's

from there you get the camera object, promote it to a variable if necessary

then you can do what ever you desire to with that object

[junior hedge]

can you try doing the script i did

(without the casting)

just in the main player script

[devout geyser]

is is the player's blueprint

it is*

[junior hedge]

is there a keybind to create a custom event?

[devout geyser]

You can make an event by a keyboard bind by right clicking on the blueprint and typing and key you wish to use

[junior hedge]

just spent 2 mins trying to figure out why i cant make an event because I accidently clicked onto a function 😭

[devout geyser]

and you can also make a custom event that will be called after you press a specific key bind

[junior hedge]

I did this in my player controller

but I cannot call to it from my ui (because idk how)

^Ui script

@devout geyser

[devout geyser]

you want in the cast to call get player character not controller

that's 1 thing

second thing is

In your custom event you wanna make sure to do that:

[junior hedge]

the custom event works now but still wont turn

[devout geyser]

just make sure the cast is fine

you need to cast to the player

[junior hedge]

i dont really want to copy what you wrote down though because then it will do 90 degree turns

but i dont want to face wall

i just want to do 1 turn

[devout geyser]

you don't wanna do a 90 degree turn just 1 turn? what do you mean by than

that*

listen just fix the custom event call

I will just show you how to write it properly if you didn't understand what's written feel free to ask

i will explain in the image the details

[junior hedge]

in this vid you did multiple 90 degree turns

i just want it to be a one time thing

[devout geyser]

because i pressed

multiply time

times*

I spammed press 1 so you could see the rotation in action

[devout geyser]

Fix this image

[junior hedge]

alr

[devout geyser]

you are getting the relative rotation of the actor

not the camera

[junior hedge]

doesnt work

[carmine sail]

Hey guys does anyone know how to implement coldstorage for custom dynamic mesh blueprints? been trying to get this to work for a custom class I expanded upon, which I originally got by following a tutorial by buildGamesWithJon. I created a forum post with more detail here https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/implementing-coldstorage-for-custom-dynamic-mesh-blueprints/584049

[junior hedge]

@devout geyser

oh ic now

this doesnt work but it prints this

[devout geyser]

Get relative location

Its relative cause its not an object on its own its part of the character

[junior hedge]

rotation?

[devout geyser]

I did my best to try and explain my code as visually as possible

[devout geyser]

Yes damn me getting confused again

rotation location sounds the damn same

[junior hedge]

right

still doesnt work

maybe I can screenshare?

[devout geyser]

From where do you call the event?

[junior hedge]

from the ui but I just replaced with an input bind and it still doesnt work

[devout geyser]

can you share the blueprint of the ui

[devout geyser]

Instead of on hovered change is to on clicked

[junior hedge]

?

[devout geyser]

You see the event you are calling

you have on hovered

[junior hedge]

intentional

[devout geyser]

change it to on clicked

oh ok

[junior hedge]

i changed it to input bind

still doesnt work

[devout geyser]

because

[junior hedge]

it is printing the turnleft thing but thats it

[devout geyser]

you can't control from the ui

[junior hedge]

thats not the ui bp

thats the player

[devout geyser]

oh ok

so wait

[junior hedge]

ill brb

[devout geyser]

Ok

I didn't see you were using first person camera

So the deal is you can't control the rotation of the camera because its using this:

Unless you disable it but I wouldn't recommend it cause you can't really look up and down with that

[junior hedge]

for my camera or what

[junior hedge]

thats fine

[devout geyser]

I will try make a code that will try somethign

[junior hedge]

you want me to?

[devout geyser]

So basically

if you disable the option you should be fine

[junior hedge]

for camera?

or entire character

[devout geyser]

Its in the camera options

[devout geyser]

once you disable that

it should work

[junior hedge]

its also in character options

k that worked

[devout geyser]

nice

Sorry if i confused you with me over explaining stuff just didn't see its first person camera

[junior hedge]

i think i should just do animations though beacuse the way it just instantly changes is not very "polished"

are you able to control camera rotations with animations?

[devout geyser]

Yes!

[junior hedge]

what type should I look into learning

[devout geyser]

Maybe i said it like 200 times but look what i did when I used a simple normal timeline

[junior hedge]

?

the video you went earlier?

[devout geyser]

This ^

Animated movemtn

movement

quite easy

[junior hedge]

yeah thats exactly what i need

[devout geyser]

multiply great tutorials

just timelines in youtube you should be fine

Good luck ^^

[junior hedge]

thx

[zealous moth]

hopefully not everyone is asleep

I added the UE4 ball to my pawn and when i enter morphball mode, i get the torque controls to work

however, the ball kinda just wanders off...

is my hierarchy at fault?

[junior hedge]

@devout geyser

thanks man

works perfectly

[trim matrix]

Hey im trying to make a team system where someone can create their own team and invite other players to their team but im not sure how i would go about it, anyone have any advice?

i suppose i just need a way to store infomation in a spreadsheet and change it ingame

[devout geyser]

@trim matrix check multiplayer tutorials maybe? not sure

[junior hedge]

@devout geyser actually there is one problem

i cannot rotate to the right side

only the left

[trim matrix]

iv been looking and only thing i can find it examples of like

teams which are preset before the game starts

like team deathmatch sort of thing

which isnt what im trying to do

[junior hedge]

it would be hard to show you the code screenshotting cus its alot can I just screenshare?

[devout geyser]

Try doing a - instead of a + on a new event

[junior hedge]

for value?

[devout geyser]

ye

[junior hedge]

now its completely broken

[devout geyser]

E pressed -> Z(YAW) -90

[junior hedge]

instead of doing 90 degree turn it does spazzes now

[devout geyser]

share a screenshot if you mind

[junior hedge]

it just spazzes

timeline is (0,0) (3,-1)

[thin panther]

an alpha in a lerp should only go form 0 to 1

think of it like a percentage

where 0 is all value A, 1 is all value B, and 0.5 is halfway between them @junior hedge

[devout geyser]

@junior hedge You again didn't do the +90 on the Z

you just set the rotation to 90

I would also suggest you making like a 2 different rotations

and a lerp between the 2

[thin panther]

yes

[junior hedge]

it worked on the turn left tho

[thin panther]

you need to store them in a variable

otherwise it will just, get, lerp a frame, get, lerp a frame

exponentially

[junior hedge]

this one works

it goes to left side

[devout geyser]

Ohh i thought you meant something like that with out the timeline

but yeah

just store the rotations

into varibales

variables

And you should be fine

I think you need a seperate timeline to right side not sure about that

[junior hedge]

this is turn right

doesnt work still

0,0 3,-1 are still the timeline stamps

[devout geyser]

You see the track is called

Turn left

maybe because of that?

maybe you need to create a new track

for the right side

And you don't set world rotation its relative rotation, try to remember its important

unless it works then w\e 😄

[junior hedge]

it says turn right?

oh

[devout geyser]

The track it self

ye

[junior hedge]

where did you see that

nvm

it still doesnt work tho

[devout geyser]

wait

lemme try somethign

dumb question

did you try changing to relative rotation?

[junior hedge]

i did not

i can try

but dont see how that would change anything

it does the same thing

[devout geyser]

lemme try something

wait couple of minutes

[junior hedge]

k

[last pond]

Hi all, hopefully a straightforward question but how do you cast to a blueprint that isnt the player or something like that?

Basically i have a blueprint with a collision box in it that checks to see if a specific enemy is on the map (Boss) and to set a boolean accordingly. If true the timer text turns red and if false the timer turns white.

Everywhere i look they are always talking about casting to the player and i know how to do that but not for just basic blueprints

[devout geyser]

@last pond Yes!

I was about to upload screenshots that explains casting

I knew it was a good topic to go through

there you go

[trim matrix]

u need to plug in reference to what ur casting too here

[devout geyser]

@last pond In the screenshots there is explaining how to get that reference @trim matrix was talking about if you have any issue @ me anytime

[trim matrix]

@devout geyserdo you know anything about sqlite?

[junior hedge]

@devout geyser

[devout geyser]

That's gonna be a no sorry 😦

[junior hedge]

what about the timeline

[devout geyser]

@junior hedge still working on it

[junior hedge]

alr

[last pond]

You're a legend thanks 🙂

made sure to save the image so i dont forget XD

[devout geyser]

@last pond Your warmest welcome

[trim matrix]

my ball needs to have different angles come off of different actors hit but there is only one "event hit". Is there any way I can make this happen? I've tried a lot but kinda stumped. I got the angles just need to figure this part out.

[thin panther]

I know very basic sqlite3

[trim matrix]

im trying to make a clan system like what ark or minecraft factions has and i think sqlite is probably the best way to go about it

do have any idea of how i would do this with blueprints?

[desert juniper]

There's SQLite plugins in the marketplace.
If you want an easier start, maybe you can just look into flatfile storage like CSV or JSON

[devout geyser]

@trim matrix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqqPawFjsFA&ab_channel=LongplayCentral

maybe that's what you are looking for?

[trim matrix]

maybe let me peak it

[devout geyser]

its 1 hour a peak would not be enough ^_^

[trim matrix]

lul true

[desert juniper]

that is part 1

[trim matrix]

thats rough

[desert juniper]

#blueprint message

[trim matrix]

if it lets me work with sqlite easily tho its probably worthwhile

[trim matrix]

ill look into it

[desert juniper]

just have a DT that is loaded/saved periodically

[trim matrix]

id much prefer not to work with database shit yet if i dont need to cuz i kinda thought it would be down the line

[desert juniper]

well, it kinda depends on where you want to store the data

do you want to store the data on the host's local machine?

or on a server somewhere online that you control?

[devout geyser]

@trim matrix If you are planning on multiplayer steam services will make your life easy i think

But i don't know how it works with blueprint tho

never messed with multiplayer

[trim matrix]

the game is multiplayer on dedicated server so it either needs to be on the server or on a database that interfaces with it

right now i think having it on the server would be easier than database and i can always change it later

just need something workable to build off

[desert juniper]

then store the data on the server that's running it. you can do it any way you want, and all have pros/cons

[trim matrix]

i thought data tables can only be edited in editor?

or am i thinking of something else

[desert juniper]

Flatfile: easypz but can get corrupted (if you're not careful about writing); not robust

database: robust, but has a learning curve

[trim matrix]

it might be worth just putting in time to learn USQLite Database plugin

cuz it will make it easier in longterm

[desert juniper]

I'd see if there are options to use any databases

my personal preference is something like PostgresQL

and there may be libraries that allow you to talk to all datbases with their query specific language

this will also help against SQL injection attacks

[devout geyser]

@junior hedge Umm I can't figure out how to make it keep animating towards the rotation

so i will try something hold on 2 min

[junior hedge]

it will go to the rotation

it will just go the wrong way

like it will go to the right side but it will go from it from the left turn

[desert juniper]

I don't know if there is one after a few mins on google

[trim matrix]

there is a plugin for PostgresQL blueprints

i think

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/postgresql-integration

its cheap aswell

[quaint geyser]

I would recommend having a proper web server and doing POST/GET requests for data.

Assuming the data isn’t super time sensitive

[trim matrix]

things might change quickly

[desert juniper]

yeah, but if they don't need a centralized database then flat files & local databases would work just fine

actually that's a really good question

[quaint geyser]

But how often does it need to be updated in the database?

[devout geyser]

@junior hedge let me show you want i mean

[trim matrix]

it is time sensitive for my applications i think

[desert juniper]

@trim matrix Do you need to control the database?

[quaint geyser]

What are you saving?

[junior hedge]

vc?

[desert juniper]

or is it fine if players control it via their own servers?

[trim matrix]

im trying to make faction/clan system

[desert juniper]

(is this like minecraft where people have their own dedicated servers, or like COD where you want to track player information and have full control of it)

[quaint geyser]

Yeah, so store it locally in memory

And save it periodically on the server

[trim matrix]

both i suppose

[junior hedge]

brb

[trim matrix]

have an official server cluster

and unofficial for people hosting their own things

[quaint geyser]

Use local database then

[desert juniper]

in that case, dont use SQLIte for a centalized database

[trim matrix]

like CSGO where u got the main valve servers and server browser

[quaint geyser]

JSON or SQLite

[desert juniper]

JSON is not a good solution for this

[quaint geyser]

Is there leveling up or other features that you want to prevent community servers from having?

[desert juniper]

it can lead to data corruption

[quaint geyser]

Why not? Minecraft uses it.

[desert juniper]

because writing/reading can cause file corruption if not handled correctly. you can't write to a file while it's being streamed, or while another process is writing to it

it's perfectly fine for certain applications, and for retrieval, but flat file storage is super prone to corruption if treated like a database

[quaint geyser]

That’s why you save to memory then periodically save

[trim matrix]

Basically there will be an official server cluster made of of numerous servers which all need to have access to data related to official cluster, and if people want to host their own servers that would be something seperate

[desert juniper]

SQLite is a better solution for a local database

[quaint geyser]

Yeah, so you something like MongoDB for official servers

[junior hedge]

I am in Feedback & Support

[quaint geyser]

Or even better use a web server

And for local use SQLite/JSON

[desert juniper]

please don't use MongoDB. such a terrible idea

[quaint geyser]

How?

I used mongodb in my game

[desert juniper]

it has like 3 real world use cases. a proper relatiomal db is better in every other case

[quaint geyser]

I had 0 issue with it in my game

And had a few million total players

[desert juniper]

0 issues doesn't mean it's the right solution

[quaint geyser]

A lot easier to just use Nosql than have to worry about migrating and using proper keys, especially for a game where features can change

Also most mobile games use firebase

Which is essentially the same thing

[junior hedge]

@devout geyser

I figured it out

forget it

[devout geyser]

@junior hedge What did you do?

[desert juniper]

I might be persuaded to change my mind on this
but NoSQL has issues with relating data. at some point you're either trying to relate documents to another (something that it wasn't designed to do), or you're duplicating data, and having to make sure it's updated in multiple places at once

[devout geyser]

@junior hedge hmm ok

[quaint geyser]

Yeah, but for a game it won’t be that complex

[devout geyser]

glad to hear that

[quaint geyser]

Obviously for social media or a complex website it’s easier to use SQL for relational data

[junior hedge]

can you not do an integer branch?

[devout geyser]

you can

by making an interger statement

Equal \ greater than \ less than

[desert juniper]

i guess it depends on how much data you're actually storing.
I don't see it being easier, but I'd love to see some use cases where it makes sense

[junior hedge]

thx

[quaint geyser]

Well almost every mobile game I’ve seen uses firebase, which is nosql

And the “MMO” project I worked on used mongodb and only needed to reference 1 other document (their faction)

[desert juniper]

yeah I can see that. makes it easier if you don't need to make your own backend server
I would think an MMO would need to store a ton of data in different tables, and be able to retrieve them quickly without copious amount of unecesary data

[quaint geyser]

True, but in my use case we just loaded the entire player entry on join

And stored it in memory

And saved it periodically as well as on important events

[desert juniper]

ah okay, yeah that makes sense

[trim matrix]

I will probably need to store data in different tables and retrieve them fast without retrieving all irrelevant data at once

[quaint geyser]

So we just had inventory, team uuid, health, points, level, and a few other things.

[desert juniper]

storing even large amount of data is relatively cheap in memory

yeah and those all just need to be loaded once

[quaint geyser]

And it’s all relevant so was just loaded into Unreal on join

[trim matrix]

it dosnt make sense to retrieve data relating to your kills and deaths when your trying to kick someone out of your clan

Actually maybe not

[desert juniper]

okay that makes sense.

[quaint geyser]

You wouldn’t need to

[desert juniper]

thanks for the examples

quick side note, you can store JSON (NoSQL) data in PostgreSQL if you'd like to go that way. It's insanely fast

[quaint geyser]

Yeah but that defeats the purpose of using relational databases(unless it’s only for certain values)

[trim matrix]

so mongoDB is best for mmo type game?

[quaint geyser]

If I had to rewrite it today I would use Prisma on a web server

[desert juniper]

Yeah, though you can relate.
for instance something like ecommerce
I might opt to store the customer info in a traditional relational table, and store the actual transaction information in a JSON table

[quaint geyser]

Depends how many references to other object types you need

[quaint geyser]

Of course

So dumping json into something that way you don’t have to worry about formatting certain values

And having proper setup for more important keys

[desert juniper]

yup yup

[trim matrix]

I simply need a way to have clan data be saved/recalled and be consistent over all servers

things like stats also would be on database but only need to be updated every 15 minutes or so

[quaint geyser]

Well you can use anything for that

Could just send GET/POST requests to a web server

And use redis/memcache for frequently accessed data across servers where you wouldn’t have persistent memory.

The mmo I worked for has had 60k concurrent players

And uses mongodb and redis

[trim matrix]

does mongodb have a plugin for blueprint integration or would it all be in c++?

oh it does

[thin panther]

If yiu are building an mmo you should already uave advanced c++ knowledge

[trim matrix]

under normal circumstances ye

[quaint geyser]

I would recommend using a web server

[thin panther]

What are these extraordinary circumstances

[quaint geyser]

And not making calls to the database directly from the engine

[thin panther]

Cuz if you dont have a team or even funding then an mmo is not a project you want to undertake

[fair magnet]

Can someone help me? it seems the custom event is loosing the reference or smth...

[trim matrix]

if i can get a semi substantial proof of concept then ill have the means to acquire funding and a team

[devout geyser]

@thin panther Don't underestimate him bro, as long as he is confident that's the key

[trim matrix]

which is what im workin on right now

[trim matrix]

real

[thin panther]

Thats all well and good but hopes and dreams dont get ya the near millions mecessary to build an mmo

[devout geyser]

I mean there were an amazing indie mmo's

back in the day

[trim matrix]

one of most successful MMOs was built by 6 people in 6 months

[thin panther]

Thats like saying a game is gonna earn millions because phasmaphobia did

Im not just hear to piss in your cheerios

But if you dont have c++ knowledge even then stay far away from projects like that

[trim matrix]

be a magician

[devout geyser]

damn you going too hardcode, i am here washing cars

[trim matrix]

I know my situation and i know how big the undertaking what im trying to do is

[thin panther]

Well investors you typucally approach a publisher with a pitch, if they like it they help dictate your games development

[devout geyser]

@thin panther If they can't make something they wont, if they can the WILL.

and they will succeed

[trim matrix]

@quaint geyserwhat game are u making?

[devout geyser]

@quaint geyser 100k wishlists you got my intrest i wonder what is it actually

[quaint geyser]

Coop horror game

[thin panther]

Again not strictly true people can make products all the time and fail, and the point is they CANT at their current skill level

[quaint geyser]

I don’t want to say what it is yet

[trim matrix]

can you just tell me the name so i can go look at it on steam

[devout geyser]

@quaint geyser you already have a customer just saying ❤️

[thin panther]

Massive multiplayer online is the most complex thing you can possibly make

[quaint geyser]

Since then people won’t help me here with my stupid questions 😄

[trim matrix]

ah

i see

[quaint geyser]

Yeah lol

[thin panther]

To even ship the mmo youre looking at millions in backend, server hosting, staff wages

[devout geyser]

looking for it now @quaint geyser

@quaint geyser I mean EA, and ubisoft got no clue what to do with their games now and they are still rich so yeah win win

[thin panther]

Its still expensive af

No matter which way you spin it

[quaint geyser]

But for a small mmo you can do a budget version with self hosted servers or something like firebase

[thin panther]

Its hard

[quaint geyser]

Up to like 1k concurrent players

Maybe a bit less

[thin panther]

Small mmo is kind of a contradiction

[fair magnet]

Then it's a mo

[thin panther]

Lmaooo

[devout geyser]

@thin panther Just be supportive in our community developers it wont hurt you being supportive. Even if they are not BLIZZARD its ok showing kindness around here

[thin panther]

Im being kind by directing them away from all of the downsides

[devout geyser]

No need for that

[quaint geyser]

Yeah but 1k concurrent players is a lot

[thin panther]

Theres no point being a yes man

[devout geyser]

There is a point being a YES man

[quaint geyser]

Obviously not in comparison to AAA

[devout geyser]

supporting

[thin panther]

No there isnt

[fair magnet]

btw bump

[thin panther]

Yes men are harmful

[devout geyser]

bro you just being a brat rn so yeah, not worth my time

[thin panther]

Theres a reason very few of the big players touch mmos

Lmao a brat

Ok

Cause i wont be a yes man to a beginner mmo project

[devout geyser]

Who says he is a begginer?

[quaint geyser]

Is the event sent to run on owning client?

Also if the object isn’t owned by the player

[fair magnet]

Nothing the like standard event

[quaint geyser]

That event won’t work

And you need to use a multicast from the server

[fair magnet]

why?

[quaint geyser]

Why not?

[fair magnet]

I'm not doing something multiplayer related :o

[thin panther]

The fact that theyre trying to make a complex mmo system without the use of c++

[thin panther]

Because its cruel

[quaint geyser]

Depends how complex

Just load data from a web server on login

[trim matrix]

oh alright

[quaint geyser]

Cache it in redis

[trim matrix]

i guess ill just make solitaire clone then

[devout geyser]

Ignore this guy, just believe in your self, even if it wasn't a success which is hard to believe its still a progress you made as a game dev

[quaint geyser]

And then load it when joining other servers

Until you have millions of players and need to use sharding and it he r optimizations

Then ur fine

[trim matrix]

Ignoring him would be braindead cuz hes right if your thinking in terms of something like world of warcraft or runescape

[thin panther]

No one said you had to clone an idea, but its always good to scale your ideas in

[trim matrix]

so hes right to a degree

[quaint geyser]

You’re right

[thin panther]

If you dont mean an mmo in the traditional sense

[quaint geyser]

I never finished games

[trim matrix]

but im not trying to clone world of warcraft

[thin panther]

Then go for it

[quaint geyser]

Until I made smaller ones

[devout geyser]

I get what he is saying, i watch like failure pre alpha builds of games

[quaint geyser]

If you think a game will take 3 months, in reality it’ll take a year.

[devout geyser]

where the devs were too ambitious with their projects

i get it

[thin panther]

Defo

[trim matrix]

have any of you played ark on official servers?

[thin panther]

Even the simple stuff aint simple lol

[thin panther]

Tried it once, never again

[trim matrix]

then u know what kind of "MMO" im talkin about

definitely not traditional

[thin panther]

Definitely more doable for a prototype for investors for sure

Still extremely difficult

But not give up on your dreams hard ig

[trim matrix]

the only complex database server shit ark has is that u can move items and characters from server to server

the rest of it basic blueprint mechanics

[quaint geyser]

That’s not an mmo

Just load inventory on join

[thin panther]

Yeah that aint an mmo

[quaint geyser]

And “that’s it”

(even though the edge cases for that will take a while to figure out)

[trim matrix]

ark is definitely an MMO atleast in terms of how people play it on official

on a technical level they just allow u to put data into the cloud and download it on other servers

this is essentially what i want to replicate

[quaint geyser]

Yeah, so setup a normal inventory system

[thin panther]

Oh yeah for sure defo a several year project

[quaint geyser]

And save it on player leave and periodically

And then load it into memory on join

[trim matrix]

yeah

the only substantial difference is that i want to make groups uniform and update live across all servers in the cluster

which is what im trying to do now

cuz if i work that out everything else should be doable

[quaint geyser]

Real-time updates are tricky

You could just use polling

But if you have a lot of clans

You’d be loading then all into memory

Which would be expensive on memory

You could fire a GET request from the client

In the same way that websites do for auto completion