blueprint

[pearl moth]

#blueprint message

[jolly cairn]

lmao you just posted a pic with "not working", at least describe your issue

[pearl moth]

On key pressed the widget doesn't show up

[jolly cairn]

yup, i had a right laugh when it popped up. i used to work in IT support and seeing "printers not working" and no description was funny but also mildly frustrating XD

you actually creating the widget?

[pearl moth]

Yes

[jolly cairn]

run with the BP and select your player for debug and see what fires

[pearl moth]

No

I mean

[jolly cairn]

or whack a few print strings in for your branches, like a "hey i'm meant to create the widget" log or something. that way you can test if it's the logic for opening it or actually displaying it that's the issue

[pearl moth]

I'm just thinking that is an issue with the blueprint

[jolly cairn]

and im telling you a way to see what part of the blueprint is failing

[pearl moth]

That's not what I meant

[fast finch]

Why not making a function to create the widget

always make a new widget when you press P

[pearl moth]

No?

[fast finch]

i mean you remove it anyways

once its removed

its gone

so you HAVE to make a new one

[pearl moth]

I made one.

[fast finch]

it doesnt work that way.

Widgets are recreated every time.

[pearl moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNkmF7u9V8g

[fast finch]

oh god

dont code that way XD

[pearl moth]

TS: 04:04

[fast finch]

just recreate the widget every time

make a proper function to create it

[pearl moth]

no

[fast finch]

and then a condition to check if its still there

[pearl moth]

the problem is

when i press the key, it doesn't do absolutely nothing

so it's not a problem of the blueprint nodes

[fast finch]

where is this code located

on what actor

[pearl moth]

All > Content > Game > Settings > IBlueprint

[fast finch]

what

[jolly cairn]

i suggested to put debug logs somewhere to find out what happens when you press P

[fast finch]

the actor name

[jolly cairn]

tried to say that earlier but they didn't want to know 😛

[fast finch]

if it isnt an actor that has input

then it wont work.

[pearl moth]

ok

[pearl moth]

don't care didn't ask 😛

[jolly cairn]

you asked for help and literally tried to help XD

[fast finch]

you have to be nicer vetlix

were trying to help you

[jolly cairn]

^^

[pearl moth]

No, it doesn't work

[fast finch]

If the print doesnt work that leads me back to my question

what is the actor

does it have input

[pearl moth]

no actors

[fast finch]

where is this code

in what class

[pearl moth]

wdym

[fast finch]

when you want to add nodes to that blueprint

what do you click in the content browser

show me

[pearl moth]

i said that

[fast finch]

you said folders

not the name of the thing

[fast finch]

ah

so its an actor

[pearl moth]

yes

[fast finch]

but not a player

this blueprint doesnt have input

thus

it wont receive any

the icon

the location

gives it away

this definitly is a case

whgere someone made a tutorial

in the wrong way

and now we pick up the pieces.

[faint pasture]

I am vindicated once again.

[pearl moth]

dies of cringe

[faint pasture]

Weird how that happens.

[short reef]

Any suggestions on how one would go about creating an Overwatch-style health bar with multiple types of 'health'? (Health, armor, shields, etc)

Well, yeah, a UMG widget, I know

[faint pasture]

Make a generic Bar widget with parameters for divisions and color etc, then add a couple instances of it to your HUD

[faint pasture]

Are you wondering how to do the UI or the actual layered HP mechanic?

because those are 2 different things

[faint pasture]

For instance this is an item card with many simple widgets we made. You want something like the segmented bar that you can parametrize.

[fast finch]

where is this from 😮

[short reef]

The UI part of it, I think I can do the actual HP mechanic on my own

[faint pasture]

Just start out by making one bar that can be parametrized with color etc. Then make a container that inspects your HP / Armor / Shields and populates with the 3 bars

[faint pasture]

The item card?

[fast finch]

yee

[faint pasture]

Game I'm working on

[fast finch]

"meteor"

[faint pasture]

twin stick looter shooter roguelike

[fast finch]

i see

[faint pasture]

Another one with actual mods

[fast finch]

ok

i have to ask.

[faint pasture]

And the whole thing collapses down for HUD and when not inspected

[fast finch]

How did you code the property system

[faint pasture]

Which part of it?

[fast finch]

where are the properties stored

what are they

and how do you calculate it

[faint pasture]

Items and character have base properties as structs, mods are just structs that get applied.
So Rusty might look like
(Reload, -0.1)
(Rate, -0.08)
(Damage, 0.2)
With Super and Super Duper indicating 2x and 3x mods

Super Duper Rusty would be Rusty Rusty Rusty ITEMNAME

[fast finch]

ok

so your calculation system always works the same?

just that some values are basicly default

if no add is given

and default values

are weapon values

[faint pasture]

Yeah. I don't recall the specifics but it's basically Final = ApplyMods(Default)

[elfin wolf]

going for a borderlands thing?

[fast finch]

very nice

[faint pasture]

Yeah something like that.

[fast finch]

can you show me the data table where these mods are stored?

like damage 28+

how is that made

these properties

can you show me a few structs too?

[faint pasture]

The final damage is 28, there's a + becuase it's positively modified from Base

Base is 20

[fast finch]

how does this modification happen

where is it defined that it is 8

[mental trellis]

Can I suggest another colour for the flavour text? People love flavour text, so it should stand out! Maybe the same as the highlight colour at the top? (I guess that differs per item type?)

[faint pasture]

There's a function that generates final values from base values + mods that touch those values.
Every time a mod is added or removed you recalculate like:

Stats.Clear()
ForeachMod -> Stats(Mod.Key) += Mod.Value

Then the final accumulation
Damage = BaseDamage(1+Stats(DamageMult))

Or something like that. I don't recall the specifics, it's still a WIP

[faint pasture]

Yeah it'll be workshopped a lot, I'm thinkin Italics or something.

[fast finch]

thx

[forest nimbus]

Worked yesterday, launched editor today, and it broke the pins and wont work now 🤔

The "minion pool" class array contains the parent BP and the child BP so they have the same functions etc

[flat coral]

Anyone have any idea why this collision event isn't firing, despite the other object impacting correctly recording a collision with that component AND recording that it has hit events=true?

[timid thunder]

What’s inside the function

[tepid tree]

why does my text boxes hint text look so weird? I get a's with borders somehow

[flat coral]

Doesn't matter, it works correctly in other circumstances, this isn't the only place it gets called. The breakpoint never gets hit

[timid thunder]

is this the only place you are calling the function or other places?

[flat coral]

Also calling it on Hit. The confusing part I've left out is that after the first hit, the static mesh that you impact (correctly) gets deleted. This is for breakable glass, after the first hit it's replaced with a destructible skeletal mesh

The first impact, on the static mesh, works correctly and all the "play on initial hit" stuff happens. The problem is that afterwards, when the static mesh is gone and the skeletal mesh is there, no more impacts get recorded even though the skeletal mesh should be just as collidable as the static mesh was

[timid thunder]

to get more accurate results you could use a line trace and uses the same outputs you are currently using

[flat coral]

That's what the initial implementation of this asset pack was, actually. Any object that could break the glass would need an ActorComponent applied to it which had the job of messaging that impact to the glass. And behind the scenes, it was constantly line tracing along its movement trajectory

[hybrid ether]

What could be best way to make it work? earth is sphere and I want navigation arrow only relative z

[flat coral]

There's a few big problems with that

1. I've got a lot of loose physics objects in my game, and constantly tracing from all of them would tank my performance.
2. Some of those objects are dynamically generated, or are parts of destructible objects themselves, and applying an actor component to each of those would be extremely difficult.

[timid thunder]

this video could help https://youtu.be/HfSf12rqMi0

[flat coral]

Nah, I don't actually need to restrict the event hit at all. Any hit should break the glass, I don't care if it's a pawn or a bullet or a shard of metal from a crate that blew up. The problem is that Event Hit isn't firing whatsoever on this component

[timid thunder]

Could you do a line trace on the player and then brake the glass

And make a custom collision

If it don’t collide with anything it’s not that performance heavy

[flat coral]

I'm already getting the collision event on the player, I could just use that to break the glass.... from the player. The problem though is how do I handle everything ELSE breaking the glass?

[timid thunder]

Glass shards make a lime trace collision is present you destroy the shard

[flat coral]

No no I mean like I would need every bullet fired, every piece of broken metal, every shard of an exploded meteor to ALL handle hitting the glass themselves

That's why I want to handle collision ON THE GLASS and not the impactor object. Because the impacting object could be anything

[faint pasture]

@flat coralDo you have simulation generates hit events turned on?

[flat coral]

Yeah, I'm even debug printing it on my player pawn just to be completely sure I'm hitting the component I think I am and it is turned on because honestly I was going a little nuts

Ignore the spaghetti, none of that is staying after I fix this shit

That prints A on the first collision with the static mesh (that works correctly) and B on the second collision which is NOT generating hit events on the glass

[plain pier]

hey! i'm currently makin a kill and respawn system and every time i destroy the actor i get a very large number of the same error
"Blueprint Runtime Error: "Attempted to access BP_ThirdPersonCharacter_C_0 via property character reference, but BP_ThirdPersonCharacter_C_0 is not valid (pending kill or garbage)". Node: Return Node Graph: GetPercent_0 Function: Get Percent 0 Blueprint: healt_widget"

can someone help me solve this

[drowsy pumice]

Quick question, for a Move To Location node in a controller, does the execution pin continue after starting or after finishing the move?

[ripe zephyr]

I'm trying to follow this tutorial as it's the only one that discusses my current problem, however it's pretty old and I think it's obsolete as the blueprint the tutorial uses, is from a template on top down, which the UE5 top down template doesn't have. I can't seem to find any other alternative tutorial. Does anyone have any advice? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvFEvxGQjug

[dawn gazelle]

If you're talking about the Simple Move To Location node, then it executes the next node immediately.

[burnt canyon]

Anyone got any examples of using Make Relative transform node? I think its a new bp mode

[dawn gazelle]

Your "healt_widget" widget no longer has a valid reference to the player character, more specifically in the GetPercent0 function.

[drowsy pumice]

Yes, thank you

I don't suppose there's a simple node to execute something once it completes the moveToLocation, eh?

[dawn gazelle]

It's not a new node... But something like below would make a transform rotated on Z by 90* relative to the input actor's transform.
Similarly, if you put an X value in for the location, the output would be relative to whatever location the actor is + the X value.

[burnt canyon]

Oh oki ty ty

[dawn gazelle]

Not with that node. There are others that can be used.

[drowsy pumice]

Oh, thank you very much. That saves me a lot of pointless collision detection

[plain pier]

i in oneway fixed it but a new error came up! my health bar in not working anymore, i mean that the health amount is no longer showing up

i could privately send you screenshots of my blueprint if you want to help

[candid geyser]

So, I have mantling k i n d a working, is just does a sphere trace from the players thighs to just above his head, with another trace to make sure we dont climb anything that's too tall

Problem is, mantling only works in some of the area

So if I wanna mantle something that's like, up to the players chest for example, i can do that and it works fine

But if we're mantling up something that's just above the players head, the player will only mantle about halfway up the wall

Any suggestions to make sure the player always ends up on top of whatever they're mantling?

[untold fossil]

What happened to the "with editor" node in 4.27?

Can't find it anywhere anymore. That was such an incredibly useful node

Why remove that? :/

[faint pasture]

Start with detecting where the "top" is

[candid geyser]

Usually I would do that with a line trace, but im having a hard time going about it

[misty pendant]

can someone help me? i tried different methods but they wont work

[faint badge]

With Editor is not a standard node in Unreal, if you had it before it was part of a plugin which you might not have installed in your current version. For example the Extended Standard Library plugin on the marketplace has a node like this I believe

[untold fossil]

Aaaaaah ok yeah I had Ext Library before in my previous project

I found another default node though called "Is packaged for distribution" which does roughly the same thing so I ended up using that. 🙂

[tight schooner]

Dunno. Maybe if the input is a variable and you want to "set by ref", which is the usual reason to pass by ref

But as far as just getting the data is concerned for the purposes of reading it, there shouldn't be a difference

[lucid ingot]

im having an issue with stopping an input from being pushed. ON the reload key pushed i have it set up to stop aim down sight from being active, but when I press ADS while reloading, it reloads and ads's. How can i stop an input while the reload is being played? In the video i am rapidly pressing the ADS key.

I dont understand why this does this.

[flat coral]

Is there a function to get a vector of the distance between two points (which are also vectors)?

NM it's GetUnitDirection. That actually saves me normalizing it too

[lucid ingot]

i was about to say vector + vector and normalize, but that makes more sense

lol

[rigid lodge]

Hi, I'm trying to make the sprite in my 2D top-down scene move with "simple move to location", I can see the nav mesh bounds volume as green in the area

But it doesn't move at all even though the sprite spawns

[lucid ingot]

figured it out if anyone ever has this issue. Intead of doing all this crazy logic just find out if the montage is active. If its true, then go back to normal, if not ads.

[strong halo]

hi! sorry for the stupid question, but how do I move navmesh down?

[livid ingot]

There's an offset setting for moving it down but i dont think you wanna do that

you're just looking at the visualization

is it not working or something

[strong halo]

my bad, the character mesh local location was a bit off 😅

the character appeared to be flying exactly on the navmesh, and I probably need some sleep

thanks anyway!

[balmy ledge]

Hi I'm working on a modular character set up using a package I bought off the market. For a non-clothed character there is a "top" mesh I would need to use which is upper torso, arms and head. I need to set up a "shirt" skeletal mesh on the character as well as "head" and "arms" and make so if "shirt" mesh is populated, "top" is cleared and "head" and "arms" gets populated.

Is there some way to automatically observe if the "shirt" skeletal mesh is a none or not and act if it changes or do I need to build all this logic? I have different ideas for how a shirt may be added/removed from the character so trying to figure out the best place to catch them all.

[icy dragon]

Just check if it's pointing to none

[balmy ledge]

Yea but when?

[icy dragon]

The moment you want to update the clothing, assuming you use events for that.

[earnest fog]

I’m trying to figure out how to force navmesh to rebuild at runtime. I see there’s an OnNavigationGenerationFinished but not one for when it starts. I need to be able to either know when it starts (maybe another event dispatcher?) or force it to start if it hasn’t (some other blueprint node).

I know it’s possible to intentionally move something around on navmesh and that will force an update, but I’d really like to find a programmatic solution without touching the world. I’m sure this is doable in C++ but I don’t know how to do that at multiple levels (how to program it, how to integrate that into BP, etc.)

Edit: in case anyone finds this at a later time, I finally found a solution which seems to work. Apparently there’s a console command “RebuildNavigation” which seems to work in 4.26 despite not showing up in autocomplete, commands lists, or hardly anywhere. The main thing I saw was someone saying it was no longer working in 4.20. But it does seem to work in 4.26 just fine

[balmy ledge]

I guess I was hoping to somehow tap into an event for when the mesh was changed. I'll keep poking at it, I think I just need to figure out how the clothing is getting changed because I'm using a survival game kit that's managing some of that.

[sacred canyon]

does anyone know a way I could have some kind of a line that shows the path that a launched object will take? so like if I’m aiming a physics object, it’ll show a curve to where it’s gonna land

[plucky plank]

Is there a way I can make traces collide with the back of geometry? To my knowledge, this doesn't trigger a contact event

[tawdry surge]

@sacred canyon "predict projectile path" or there's a ballistics plug in

[cyan bone]

Im looking for the cheapest in performance yet credible mannequin character. The original mannequin seems to be too complex, or am i wrong? I only need to see my character from the top at 20 meters altitude. Is there a cheaper more performant version of the mannequin ?

[plucky plank]

I'm not too knowledgeable but I believe that the complexity of the skeleton will automatically change with different LODs

[livid ingot]

What type of performance improvements are you looking for? CPU? GPU. Do you want to decrease the cost of rendering, or the cost of running an animation tree or a behavior tree

[cyan bone]

All if possible. I want it as simple as possible. for example:
https://rtw.heavengames.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2021/11/units_peasant.jpg
This is a unit from Rome 1 (game from 2004). And it looks great, i dont want it to look that good. See?
I need it to be a cheap as possible. What should i do? Perhaps make it from scratch? I looked for low poly and still they look too good. I dont know much about characters, or skeletal mesh, and the whole animation thing of the character is very hard.

[faint pasture]

If you don't know much about it, why are you worrying? Have you profiled it? Do you know how much of your CPU time is spent on the skeleton and animations?

[cyan bone]

I know because i made a game and it could barely handle 6 metahumans. So this is a no-no. I dont need fancy high detail 3d characters, all i need is for my game to work with as many units as possible.

so, should i make it from scratch? Or is there a place i can download more simplified cheaper 3d characters?

the mixamo characters look too complex too.

[cyan bone]

for example the character i posted in the image above. Looks very cheap and simple? Yet just as good, right? Should i go for that?

[tawdry surge]

Mixamo characters are way less high poly then meta humans

Lod 0 isn't even really meant for games
More for cinematics and renders

[cyan bone]

so if i go for LOD 5 will it be super cheap?

sorry i dont think i asked my question properly. so the original mannequin is cheap and optimized if i just make it LOD5+? Or you think i can remake it better?

[livid ingot]

how many characters on screen do you roughly expect to have?

[cyan bone]

500+, 1000+ at times

[livid ingot]

okay lol, are they expected to be animated?

[cyan bone]

is that too much? Yup like fighting me. In a mount and blade way. But thats just on one level. So it will happen rarely.

[livid ingot]

yeah that's a lot so you're gonna have to be clever on your approach, specially when setting up animation blueprints and enemy behavior

I think you might want to look at MassEntity (i don't really know much about it myself)

There's also some clever method for optimization animation blueprints so that you don't have 500 animation blueprints destroying your pc

maybe someone else knows about that? i forgot what its called

for the large number of agents maybe try asking in the #mass channel, there's this cool video to get you started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9q8A-9DvPo

oh and if you're really worried about rendering cost. Grab the 3d model you want, throw it on blender, and decimate it to reduce the numbers of tris on the mesh

[mental trellis]

That's the Mass... Effect.

[sullen needle]

So I have a bit of code here where I am trying to cast to the hud component yet the cast fails because of that get user widget object returns an unknown class. Anyone have any suggestions on how I should debug that unknown class reference? It worked before, I moved some bps around and had to fix some redirects yet now it no longer works? https://blueprintue.com/render/9m5opc0s/

[cyan bone]

awesome. but this seems to be work arounds because of high quality characters, right? What i need is something very low poly.
But by the way, is these mass technique better than the niagara technique of simulating large crowds??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqXKSyAPWZY

[livid ingot]

Oh yeah this is what I was thinking! and i can't say for sure i don't really know the ins and outs of either of these approaches

[cyan bone]

it seems the one you posted is more recent and UE5. The niagara technique is super complicated, and i've been postponning it.

[cyan bone]

So does that mean mixamo character is cheaper and less poly than the original mannequin?

[livid ingot]

What's the unknown class that's it's returning. I usually debug these kind of things by printing out the different class i am trying to cast from first to make sure it's compatible with what im casting to

[livid ingot]

well you got a complicated problem my friend haha, handling large number of NPCs on a screen is a complex challenge

[sullen needle]

So within the blueprint is a widget component (displaying a health bar) I am returning that component and getting the health bar ui bp at least thats the theory

[cyan bone]

yup and its the most important thing in the game im making. i think i will try the original mannequin with low resolution textures and low LOD.

[sullen needle]

That is what status bar widget and status widget component are respectively. The status bar exists within the component which is why I have the get user widget object

[livid ingot]

you're gonna be limited in the number of AI you can have on screen if you use a regular animationblueprint + movemement component + behavior tree

your computer will likely crawl, each of those systems are quite heavy

having more than a few ai characters on screen won't be good

[cyan bone]

even if they are low poly? should i just go full Doom and use sprites?

[sullen needle]

@cyan bone the second reply is very helpful for what youre probably trying to accomplish https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/how-many-ai-characters-can-be-supported-on-screen-at-once-rts-possibilities/79919

[livid ingot]

Okay got it, but the cast is failing. Hmm can you start out by making sure that StatusWidgetComponent is valid? start by ruling some things out

[spark steppe]

but that was 5years ago

i think there have been some improvements made in UE since then

like async physics, etc.

[cyan bone]

I see. The first answer is very demoralizing though. He went through all that effort and can only do 400 units.
Makes me want to go Doom sprites, and just forget about it.
The 2nd answer mentions that the original mannequin is not bad, he says 200-300 units. So maybe i could use the original mannequin for just the close combat units. And the rest are Doom sprites.

[sullen needle]

Interestingly enough the statuswidget is returned as itself as expected its the get user widget object that is not. So for some reason the component lost the widget 😮

[livid ingot]

Are you destroying it somewhere?

[sullen needle]

It also looks like having a custom movement component will help. From what I remember its really over designed and youd be able to streamline it for many units

[livid ingot]

Yeah a lot of posts I've read of people doing large amounts of agents at once, have just rolled our their own movement component

[livid ingot]

I don't know the exact syntax for what you need but check if there's like a getParent or something like that instead of get user widget object

[faint pasture]

It's not the graphics or the polys, its the raw CPU time to process it. Several thousand agents is the type of problem where you wouldn't even be asking how it's done if you're tackling it.

[sullen needle]

I found it! Apparently the reference in the component got removed at some point when I was moving around files 😠

Shouldve checked there to begin with! 😛

[faint pasture]

You are way outside of CMC territory when talking about several thousand agents.

[livid ingot]

Haha nice!

[eternal flax]

Is there a way for a component to generate overlap event while stopped? as far as i know it generates that event only when it's in motion

[cyan bone]

and @livid ingot . Look at this game done with sprites vs models. It looks quite similar. Maybe i could do that and have loads of units. Or not so fast?
But honestly the model looks better. The sprite looks a bit bizarre, but this game is bizarre itself so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb-hPYOIwMw

[livid ingot]

The complexity of the models won't be your big concern it'll be things like getting your agents to move and traverse the environment. Those are very costly computations. I recommend looking into using the Niagara simulation for large crowds or better yet, the Mass approach

[past comet]

How do I fix this spiral in my skybox?

[faint pasture]

That's not a long/lat texture but you probably have long/lat UVs on your skybox

[past comet]

Its a square texture

[faint pasture]

Yes, and your sphere is probably UV'd like a map

You're basically doing the Mercator projection

Do you see the problem?

[past comet]

I'll take a guess, there's shrinkage converting a square to sphere?

so should i use a cube as my skybox instead of a sphere?

[faint pasture]

You can use a sphere, just need to have a texture that expects that sort of projection

[past comet]

So is there a easy way to modify my texture in Unreal?

[faint pasture]

Not sure, but for a naive mapping to a sphere the way you have yours, your source texture needs to be distorted like so

There's probably some node to do the UV conversion for you, ask in #graphics

[tight schooner]

Yeah maybe there's some triplanar mapping node in the material graph, but fundamentally it's a graphics question

[mellow folio]

I believe you skipped a step in the skybox implementation. I think the simplest solution is to change the settings in the texture itself

I’m not by my computer

But the website you got that skybox from should have a step that solves that

[past comet]

@mellow folio I don't see anything

I created a spherical uv projection

but I can't figure out how to apply it in the material

[cyan bone]

The mannequin uses a whole texture for the whole static mesh. I find that very confusing to replicate or alter. is there a tutorial that teaches how to do a new texture for the mannequin? all i found are tutorials that teach how to do one from scratch using blender and or mixamo.

[lapis ridge]

1. Player script 2. Rig

[open wren]

Hey guys, how do i save the direction the camera is facing in an fps game? I can save the transform but it only saves the location not the direction you were facing. Any help on this?

[livid ingot]

Yeah, get the forwardVector() of the camera

[open wren]

ohhh alright i’ll try that out thanks

[spark steppe]

substance painter or texture painting in blender works

so a application that lets you draw on the 3D mesh

you wont make a new texture with any 2D graphics program, thats for sure

[cyan bone]

got it. thank you

[lapis ridge]

Hey everyone, I'm attempting to get a blueprint interface working with a control rig, sending it transforms for a full body IK. However the rig doesn't seem to receive the variables. What am I doing wrong?

[open wren]

what variable do i use to save it in? do i just use a normal vector and save it in there?

[livid ingot]

just drag off of the output and save it the same way you're doing for your transform, which i assume is just setting it to a variable?

[livid ingot]

i haven't worked with rigs but is that class implementing the interface?

[lapis ridge]

The control rig is implementing the interface, and the player pawn is messaging three transforms

[open wren]

yup! now when i load the game do i use set actor transform and add the vector inside it? or do i use a different node to load the direction

[livid ingot]

where are you saving this information? Is it on a game instance or are you using the saveload system

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-US/InteractiveExperiences/SaveGame/

[open wren]

save load system

[livid ingot]

hmmm, you verified that information is getting sent through correct?

adding the interface to the receiving end should be all you need...

[lapis ridge]

1st is Player, 2nd is Control rig

[livid ingot]

yeah that looks all correct to me

for sanity check, could you try and just implement that same interface in a different class and make sure that's working as well

[lapis ridge]

Okay, 1 sec

[livid ingot]

haha i had actually forgotten what your original problem was. So you're saying setting the transform and then resetting it to the actor isn't actually loading the rotation?

is this a first person, third person game?

If it's third person you might need to also save the transform of the camera itself and then re-assign it? Give that a go

[lapis ridge]

here's what I tried, still false so it's most likely the interface

(New blank actor)

[livid ingot]

this ue5 right?

odd

[lapis ridge]

Yeah

[livid ingot]

let me try it

[lapis ridge]

I'm trying to think of any setting I changed in the interface, don't think so

[livid ingot]

yeah i don't think i usually change anything either unless something has changed which i very much doubt

[open wren]

yeah when i save my player transform and load into the game it doesn’t save the rotation/where my camera was facing

[lapis ridge]

Might there be something that's setting the transform elsewhere? Like another script that's setting it?

Maybe check the variable's references to make sure

[open wren]

should i be using get actor transform or get world transform?

i’m using get actor transform

[lapis ridge]

Not sure, I guess you can try using world instead and see if that works?

World transform is offset from the center of the map, actor transform is offset from the actor

Worth a try

[livid ingot]

it's not working for me either

[open wren]

i tried world transformation and that didn’t seem to work

same results as actor transform

[fast tree]

Hello can I ask for help? I'm not sure which wildcard to link to the switchcharacter blueprint to bypass the error.

[lapis ridge]

An actor

The cast checks if an actor is the same class as whatever actor it's casting, so it needs an actor to check

[livid ingot]

are you passing the 'rig' to the 'target' input in your interface function

that's the part i was missing

[lapis ridge]

It's definetely hackjob but I just threw this together

[livid ingot]

is ControlRig valid?

[fast tree]

what do i search for in the search bar? I can't seem to find this

[lapis ridge]

I'm not sure what you mean by searchbar, but you need an Actor variable in the graph, plugged into the node

Here's an example

[fast tree]

Yeah I just don't know which to get theres so many to choose

[lapis ridge]

Well, walk me through what the blueprint does

It looks like when EndChat occurs, you swap characters

So you're checking if X is a switchcharacter, and if it is and it's male, then etc.

If there isn't anything to check it might be that casting isn't what you want to do?

[lapis ridge]

Yep, checked with breakpoints

[livid ingot]

i tried to replicate yoursetup but i haven't touched control rigs lol

i see you have an animation blueprint and get control rig off of that. Do i have to create a control rig for my animation blueprint?

[lapis ridge]

The control rig is passed after the state machines to add IK afterwards.

It's a very basic animbp. The control rig just moves the skeleton in accordance with the transforms it SHOULD be getting from the interface

I guess control rigs can't take interfaces for some reason

[livid ingot]

so wait

the control rig is that little node

are you making a class for that control rig?

[lapis ridge]

The control rig is the asset type, the Full Body IK is a node within the control rig

[livid ingot]

okay got it

[lapis ridge]

I tried implementing the interface in the animation blueprint and then the animation blueprint sends the values to the control rig in the animgraph but it was strangely still empty

[livid ingot]

so it got as far as the animBP?

was the data empty at the animBP level or after it went to the controlRig

[lapis ridge]

Empty at the animBP, similar to the control rig 😦

[wild zodiac]

Heya! I have an annoying issue, I'm trying to make a door anim blueprint that opens and closes based off a bool value. In the anim blueprint it smoothly transitions depending on the current position of the anim (can open and close very quickly and will close based off wherever the open position was). But in the actual game it just snaps the the start of the animation when I swap the bool!

Any ideas what might be causing it? 😦

Got me stumped I've made plenty of anim trees for characters... could it perhaps be that this is an actor blueprint in the world not a pawn?

Nothing fancy in the actor blueprint besides a skeletal mesh with a bool

and this is my anim BP graph

[livid ingot]

I'm stumped here too

[lapis ridge]

I'm trying a different strategy, hopefully it works

[wild zodiac]

Neverminds... Turns out it worked fine when the bool was controlled in-game via in-game code, and didn't like when i was ejected pressing the bool manually on the actor, a little annoying but at least it works!

[rough warren]

Question, I have a function that I want some objects to call but they are of different classes. I'm wonderring how I might cast to said objects no matter what type they are

[fast tree]

Hi I'm kinda stuck rn. I can't get the false branch to work

[cyan bone]

I imported a character from Mixamo. How do i reduce its triangles like in the LOD of the original mannequin?

oh i found it. Its in the max triangles in skeletal mesh.

[trim matrix]

The first thing you do is CastToPrototypeMale. If the OtherActor is of the type ProtypeManiquinMale male, then continue, if the OtherActor isnt of the type ProtypeManiquinMale , the CastFailed execution will trigger, meaning your code will do nothing.

[fast tree]

Okay so how do I fix this?

Been staring at the blueprint for hours lmao

[trim matrix]

I am not sure why you need this boolean check for IsMale also

pretty sure that will work as well.

[brittle wedge]

hey, is there any reason the delta rotator node would start acting up if in tolerance of a certain world axis? (-x)

[fast tree]

well i'll be

wow

i'm dumb dumb

Dude

THANK YOU

[trim matrix]

I would reccomend placing that function inside of a blueprint interface. Then implement that interface inside of each class.

[maiden wadi]

Your likely issue is that Control Rotation is overriding your set rotation. If you're using UseControlRotation on a camera or Pawn, setting it directly won't have any effect as control rotation overwrites it shortly after. So when loading, you'll need to also set the pawn's controller's control rotation.

[rough warren]

well, the thing is I'd like to call back to that specific item and call a method inside of it

[trim matrix]

Well there is no sort of universal CastTo node. Your two options are A: Blueprint Interfaces. Or B, have each class inherit from a shared parent class. then have that parent class hold the function that needs to be shared among all its children.

[rough warren]

So currently I have a pickup & drop item system, I would like to be able create different items and have different things they do. So for example, if I press left click from the player, it then sends that event to the item of which the place is holding.

[lapis ridge]

After hours, I've concluded the problem is that for some godforsaken reason the variables are just being read as 0 after going through the interface, even though they can afterwards be printed out and show something different.

[rough warren]

I'm just not sure how to incorporate a different items

[brittle wedge]

interfaces and names

[trim matrix]

Both options I stated will allow you to do just that.

[rough warren]

So if I have a blueprint interface how might that work?

[trim matrix]

You may need to look up how things like interfaces work and it will become apperent when you do.

[rough warren]

okay thanks

[trim matrix]

You might also want to look into the idea of Class Inhertence.

You can define functionality on a Parent class. Then each children automaticly get said functionality. The thing is tho that the children are allowed to modify the functionality given to them as well.

So the functionality defined on the ParentClass could be a function called UseItem. Then each child could modify what exactly UseItem does.

[lapis ridge]

Might anyone know why transform variables will read as 0 0 0 in blueprints but then when printed in blueprints read as their actual position?

I am about to uninstall windows and live a peaceful life in the mountains

[livid ingot]

That's wild

Is it only transforms

[lapis ridge]

No actually, it's also floats

[trim matrix]

Ive never heard of a problem like that. Im sure it is just a simple bug with the code.

[livid ingot]

Or is it to do with using interfaces with the animation systems

[rough warren]

Would you know if there might be a way to just set a variable to the specific items blueprint class similar to setting a variable to an actor object

[lapis ridge]

Right now my player is sending its transform to its animation blueprint. At least that's the goal

Even in the player's blueprint alone it still reads as 000

[trim matrix]

Are you talking about changing the defualt values of a given Blueprint class? But for all instances of that class?

[rough warren]

More like a setting a variable to the specific items blueprint (if that makes sense)

[lapis ridge]

Blueprint Interfaces sounds like what you want here

[trim matrix]

I dont know what your exactly asking. To me it sounds like you are asking, can I change the value of a variable on a specific blueprint during runtime? Cause yes there is a ton of ways to do that.

Normaly you just get a reference to the blueprint and directly set the value.

[rough warren]

That's exactly what i mean

How could I get a reference to the specific items blueprint?

[trim matrix]

but each blueprint is a different type?

[rough warren]

yes

Ima go look up some stuff on blueprint interfaces because I feel like i'm over complicating this haha

[trim matrix]

Like i said, you must either get a reference to the parent class, or use an interface.

[lapis ridge]

Blueprint Interfaces are basically a group of functions that can be used on multiple blueprints.

They're very nifty

[livid ingot]

Try reducing the tick rate of your actor and see if you still get all 000s

Dumb question

Nvm

[lapis ridge]

I'll still try it, anything at this point

Do you mean tick interval

[livid ingot]

Yeah

[lapis ridge]

Argh didn't work, thanks for the suggestion tho

[rough warren]

Ok, so I'm taking a look at blueprint interfaces and I'm not sure how I could do a click detection in the player that then gets info from a directed item

[livid ingot]

I'm going to bed but let me know if you figure it out

[lapis ridge]

I'm going to burn my computer and live an honest life in the mountains of Scandinavia, goodbye everyone

[livid ingot]

Haha

[brittle wedge]

try exposing the transforms in the control rig node and plug em in that way, also maybe try putting the transforms into an output only BPI function and then call that BPI message off tick

all i could think of

[trim matrix]

Create a function in the interface called, Retreive{Whatever}Infromation. Make this function return {WhateverInformation}. In the item, implement the interface then implement this function as well. Code the function to return the correct information.

[rough warren]

My issue is directing the retreive from the specific item

All I have is a actor object of the item

this is in the player

[trim matrix]

When you click the item, the OnClick event should give you a reference to the Actor that was clicked. Take that reference and from it, call Retrieve{Whatever}Information.

[trim matrix]

Im not sure what that varialbe is needed for or what it represents. Its obvoiusly an item, but what item?

[rough warren]

So this is my item, when there is a collision it then executes a function inside the player

This is the function, where it executes a method that attaches the item

Then this is where I attach the object

[rough warren]

I'm just not sure how to get to the point of getting reference to what is being clicked

[trim matrix]

Thank you, code is helpfull.

[rough warren]

No worries, I should've started off with that

[trim matrix]

I dont see any ClickingEvents happening in this code.

Are you talking about a OnClickEvent?

or litterly just clikcing the varialbe in the editor or something?

[rough warren]

Where should I have the on-click event?

In the player right?

[trim matrix]

None is needed.

I assumed you were talking about OnClickEvents

[rough warren]

How do you mean?

[trim matrix]

Oh do you mean, like the LeftClickEvent???

The input action?

[open wren]

how do i do that?

[rough warren]

Here I'll say what I plan to do
--Have multiple pick-upable items, such as tools or weapons
--When I left click it then executes what it needs too, so if it's a weapon it'll do damage and for tools I can decide what I want to do

Aboviously I'm far from this but I'm just trying to create a way to decide what to do with different items

[cursive grove]

I have a problem i need help with
On Component Begin Overlap will never trigger the BP_component that is attached on my mesh. How can I do this?
I want to have meshes that interact with the character, and I want this 'interaction' to be on a BP component, so I can add it to whatever actor I want

[trim matrix]

Ok yes so the input action for a left click.

Its actualy called LeftMouseButton.

[rough warren]

And currently, I have a way to figure out what actor the player is holding and attaching it to a bone.

I'm just not sure how to go from a Left click >> Interface >> item >> interface

I just don't know how to call the interface thing to a certain item

[trim matrix]

Litterly just get the varialbe item and drag off it. Then type the name of the interface function.

no casting or anything is required.

[rough warren]

don't mind the item_base stuff but I only see cast to

[trim matrix]

what is the name of the interface function?

In your interface?

what is its name?

[rough warren]

item_bp_interface

OH WAIT

nvm

i swear i'm stupid

[trim matrix]

did that do it for you?

[rough warren]

I think so atm, just gonna work on making it actually have info

[trim matrix]

And wait what? So you have an ItemBase actor??

This ItemBase actor will be the parent for every item????

[rough warren]

oh no, that's just the name

[trim matrix]

Why dont you make it the parent? That is litterly what you are supposed to do. Have a parent class called ItemBase, each children then modiftys the ItemBase to do differnet things.

Using interfaces in this situation isnt even the best option.

[rough warren]

because i'm not too sure how to work with the child

[trim matrix]

Right click ItemBase in the editor, and click CreateChildBlueprintClass

On the parent (ItemBase), add any varialbes and functions that need to exist on every item.

[rough warren]

hm k

[trim matrix]

This probably includes things like UseItem function, ItemID variable, etc

For now just add the UseItem function

The function can do litterly nothing.

You can leave it blank in the parent class (ItemBase)

This is because each child will override the UseItem function to change what it does.

[rough warren]

I'm just super confused on how I can execute the function inside of the item

[trim matrix]

Lets take this to DM, no reason to clog this chat.

[rough warren]

alright

[timid thunder]

Would anyone know how to rotate arrow component asked on the mouse y axis with some sort of speed variable?

[neat stream]

Guys how would calculate the number of byte in a string?

[maiden wadi]

Just call SetControlRotation on the Pawn's Player controller locally where you're setting the pawn's location.

[prisma tree]

Anyone knows why my landscape looks like this in the horizon? seems like the flatter the landscape is and the closer the camera is to the ground the worse it looks

This is when I zoom out really far

It´s similar if I just start a new clean large open world project and map as well.

[trim matrix]

How do i save the Volume slider change?

[gentle urchin]

Manually?

In a separate variable

Either directly in a savefile, or via temp in the owning widget

[jagged stone]

Is there a way to open level with all cameras completely disabled (so you just see a black screen until a view target is set)?

[undone surge]

does the image bind function on widgets work on tick ? like will it be checking for update every tick ? if i wana change it in real time

[maiden wadi]

Not exactly. But you can set an immediate Fadeout on the player's CameraManager. It has a StartCameraFade. You can specify black with alpha1. From and To 1.0, and Durration 0.0. and HoldWhenFinished=True. Will lead to the screen displaying as black immediately. Called early enough, the player will never see anything but that. When you're done with it, you can just call the same, but with ToAlpha as 0.

[trim matrix]

ah ye i didnt think about that

[jagged stone]

What are all these "REINST SKEL" object types, how can I get rid of them?

[icy dragon]

Is BP Lobby Controller inheriting from C++ class?

[jagged stone]

I'm using Blueprints only. The BP Lobby Controller has an BP_GloballyController as it's parent

Then the BP_GlobalController is parented to the default controller class

[undone surge]

what would be the best way to change the thumbnail of an equipped weapon based on which weapon is equipped ? i made an array with the images and setting the output of the image bind to each element of the array according to some branched but its giving an error

[trim matrix]

This is the code for the volume slider

[jagged stone]

These "REINST SKEL" object types seem to come and go, sometimes there are like 100s in the list, then sometimes it's only a few

[spark steppe]

they are from the BP compiler and probably shouldn't show up at all?!

[jagged stone]

So it's a bug or something?

[spark steppe]

idk

all i know is, you shouldn't use them for anything

[earnest tangle]

Are you hotreloading

[spark steppe]

he doesn't use c++ at all

[earnest tangle]

Ah

[jagged stone]

But i'm just wondering if this going to be problem later (like if they keep accumulating)

[earnest tangle]

Yeah I've randomly seen those when weird shit happens :P

[spark steppe]

i'm pretty sure that the bp compiler generates those

so for some kind of internal "hotreload"

[jagged stone]

I'm not sure what hotreloading is, i'm just using PIE new window to preview player

[spark steppe]

can you try to restart the editor and see if they still show up?

the engine may purge them at some point

otherwise maybe delete your intermediate folder (if you don't mind compiling your projects shaders again)

that should get rid of them for sure

[jagged stone]

I can safely delete the "Intermediate" folder completely?

[spark steppe]

yes

it only contains generated data

[jagged stone]

Also i'm on linux so...seems like there's quite a lot of weird issues

[spark steppe]

which branch are you using? ue-5,0? (5.0.2 version)

or ue5-main?

[jagged stone]

5.0.2

Just compiled the latest version like 3 days ago

[spark steppe]

but i'm on linux too, i've never noticed sooo many SKEL references

[jagged stone]

After restart it's back down to 1, but every time i make a new variable it seems to add another REINST SKEL to the list...oh well i'll just ignore it

[sacred canyon]

ah nice thanks

[spark steppe]

i guess it's a bug which eventually got fixed in 5.1

[gritty plover]

Is there a way to have a variable in a parent class BP and set a different value for it for each child BP?

[spark steppe]

yes

you can edit the variable in the class defaults of the childs

[gritty plover]

Oooh. Thank you!

[spark steppe]

but guess you have to set them as instance editable in the class where you define them (but don't take that for 100% granted)

[tight schooner]

I think instance editable is only for the level editor and not class inheritance

I don't have UE open but there might be some flag to protect variables from being changed in child classes

If you want that

[patent ermine]

I'm trying to rotate the camera to the normal of the face of an object that is clicked on. On mouse click, I cast a ray from mouse cursor into the world, I get the point of intersection. From here, I take my pawn actors location along with the hit location and try to find a look at rotation, which I use to rotate the pawn so that it faces the normal of the hit point. In other words, the camera should face the point of intersection dead on. Here is a snipped of blueprint. Any help is appreciated. https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/yvaufjb3/

[tight schooner]

@patent ermine I'm confused. You're setting the pawn's location to the hit location?

"find look at" seems pointless if you're also changing the location of the pawn (camera?)

I was expecting something where you just find look at rotation from camera location to target location, and then set camera rotation using the result

without changing the location of anything

[patent ermine]

@tight schooner Here is a video illustration https://streamable.com/0bysmu

I would like it so that the pawn rotates to the normal of the face that it intersects.

As well as move to that location with a given distance. The move seem to be fine, however rotation is clearly not.

[tight schooner]

Oic, is your camera on a spaced out springarm?

If you're talking about the surface normal, it'll be one of the other pins... Maybe "impact normal"

on the hit result

Try using that to find rotation

[patent ermine]

Hmm

https://streamable.com/6rbswe

Ive tried using impact normal as the target in finding look at rotation. Still not the correct result. Ideally, if i click on a face on this cube, the camera should be looking at that face dead on.

https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/9qwpr0bn/

Updated blueprint

[tight schooner]

Use start location of 0,0,0

on the find look at node

Normals are vectors with a length of 1. They aren't in themselves locations

They just point in a direction

If it doesn't work, then switch the start/end pins lol

Cuz surface normals point away from the surface rather than toward iirc

[patent ermine]

@tight schooner Thanks for the help, that did the trick. Here is the correct result with the above suggested adjustment. https://streamable.com/3ly39w

[naive stag]

How can I move down all indexes of the array after I remove one index from array

[maiden wadi]

You usually don't need to. Removing an index will shrink the array for you.

[dreamy yacht]

Hi

[naive stag]

Right well I’m getting this weird bug that I can’t explain, I thought that was a reason

[dreamy yacht]

I develop an arcade racing game

[glass stump]

Been trying to figure out what's wrong with it but no mature what I do it just doesn't seem to save. Or maybe the loading is the problem.

[dreamy yacht]

and I need to create a widget over every car, that adapts it's size

depending on the distance, that player camera has from that car actor

and the name widget has to be visible all the time - so it has to ignore the mist

etc

[zealous moth]

you have to load the save game from slot and then add values and then save

@glass stump

[zealous moth]

this sounds more like a material property you want where you use custom depth rendering and set it to a specific distance from the camera

[zealous moth]

probably make a function when you input an array and an array object and do a for each loop to add all the items except the object to remove into a new local array and output that

[jolly cairn]

hey sorry for the ping but thought i'd say it's all sorted now, turns out it was because it was toggled to build nanite when importing, thanks for your help yesterday 🙂

[wanton galleon]

Hi, does someone know if it is possible to listen to an input event from blueprint with the enhanced ?

[glass stump]

Ah, thank you, I'll try it out! :)

[lethal briar]

Does anyone know the best way to find a specific object in an array? I'm trying to get the transient skeletal mesh from the USD stage to set morph target

[left fulcrum]

Hi, so UE4's save game object saves everything as a SAV file, would there be any way of changing this so that its saved as a text file. Its not a huge deal but text files are editable where sav files are not and I would like the option of being able to edit them.

[thin panther]

No

The point of savs is that they cant be edited easily, y.k cheating and all that

[mental trellis]

You could save stuff via json or something.

I'm sure there are uobject to json converters out there.

[left fulcrum]

a JSON is actually what I meant, but I think I need to go about it differently anyway. I wanted the admins to be able to edit values using commands but that probably shouldnt be done in the file like that anyway now that im thinking about it

cause yeah, cheating

[silk hinge]

hello guys,
I would like to a open an asset during the game (a media player) with blueprint by pressing a button is there anyway to open an asset during the game to access it ?

To be more clear What I want to do is

Open this page while I'm playing the game to access the settings into it. https://prnt.sc/LQnuVrKz1jJ5

[thorny rover]

Hi! Is it possible to convert whole data table as .json and store it as a string value inside unreal?

[prisma delta]

does anyone know how to create this "real" variable type. i don't have it as an option.

it looks like a float. same colour coding.

[marble tusk]

Float

They renamed it

[tight schooner]

Real Engine coming soon

[prisma delta]

so real is just a label. thanks

[marble tusk]

They named it Real at one point to distinguish that it's higher precision than UE4's Float, but the rename was just confusing so they changed it back

[prisma delta]

ok . cool. thanks for that. was scratching my head for a bit.

[naive stag]

How can I optimise the spawn of multiple objects. When I spawn 100 of actors my game lags, is there a way to optimise that?

[tight schooner]

Spawn them gradually over time, or spawn them in advance but hidden and use them when the time comes

[livid ingot]

Look into object pooling

[naive stag]

What’s that

[tight schooner]

It's the name for the technique of spawning them in advance and/or reusing actors instead of destroying and respawning

[livid ingot]

It's a design pattern widely used for handling the creation/manipulation of large amounts of objects

it's not too hard to implement, im sure there's some unreal tutorial about it

[dawn gazelle]

Don't quote me on this, but I think the limit for strings is up in the 2 billion characters (Effectively, around 2GB). So as long as your data doesn't hit that, then you should be able to use it.

[thorny rover]

Cool, no issue with size. But my question is how to do that. I have DataTable and i know i can export it as Json to external source, but i don't know how to convert the DataTable to json inside the engine and store it as a string value inside some blueprint for example..

[livid ingot]

Do you have to do this at runtime? or in the editor

[thorny rover]

runtime

[livid ingot]

if it's in the editor, there might be some blutitilies that expose that export to json functionality through blueprints or python

ahh at runtime i don't know but i'd also be interested in knowing if that's expose

[thorny rover]

there is option to get the column as string, but not the whole datatable as string.. :D

[dawn gazelle]

There's nothing built-in with blueprints that will convert anything to JSON for you. There is JSON conversion functions available within C++, or there are other plugins you can get that can assist that provide nodes that can be used to generate JSON.

[livid ingot]

I've heavily used those json plugins for unreal. I thought they now come in as part of the engine in the latest version though, no?

[livid ingot]

I think there might be two options here.

1. Go through engine code and figure out how to expose the dataTable -> export json and try and make that work for your runtime usage
2. Maybe work with that column/row as string approach you mentioned, and write your own conversion layer to json

[past comet]

I have this super annoying issue I'm trying to solve. When I run in client mode I get the following log:

Server logged in
Play in editor total start time 0.028 seconds.
Client logged in
Play in editor total start time 0.07 seconds.
Blueprint Runtime Error: "Accessed None trying to read property CallFunc_Create_ReturnValue". Node:  Add to Viewport Graph:  EventGraph Function:  Execute Ubergraph Login Controller Blueprint:  LoginController

My blueprint looks like this.

The error occurs at the part where we Add to Viewport

But there's nothing in the subsequent viewport's BP that seems to address the issue.

[hot lotus]

#multiplayer but I guess the client mode (in 5.0) is spawning a dedicated server in the background. A dedicated server connot have widgets

[past comet]

But I set replicates to false already

This code is in PlayerController ^

[hot lotus]

I don't know what you want to do but I would add a branch with is not dedicated server

[livid ingot]

your Create Login Widget needs an owning player i think

[past comet]

that solved it I love you!

is the change incase anyone was interested

[thorn gazelle]

Hello there, I'm having issues with my data assets getting reset every time I restart the editor (4.27). I've found what I think is similar in the bug tracker (UE-103849
), but this seems to be fixed in 5.x only.
I've had this issue in the beginning of my project after migrating a framework, but it went away after I made a new folder to store the Data Assets in. And now suddenly, it's back. It only applies to Data Assets of 1 parent, all the rest are unaffected.
In the screenshot you can see how it looks after a restart of the engine, while only 1 minute before it was filled with 5 finger requirements and a hand requirement

[thorny rover]

@dawn gazelle @livid ingot Hmm, okay, thanks! Too bad that technically unreal has the functionality out there to read/create and export the json, sadly not integrated to receive the result inside runtime, at least understanding from your response. I haven't coded much so i'm just using blueprints, perhaps indeed to work with the column/row approach with a json generating plugin.

[hot lotus]

Did you build your project before restarting? Or are you using hot reload?

[cursive grove]

is there another way to pull objects towards the player? Add force/radial force is in a radius and does not work from a specific transform location.

[thorn gazelle]

I'm using just the launcher to start the project, not starting from code, so I'm guessing that's just hot reload?

[cursive grove]

If I set radial force's radius to something less than 500 it does not pull stuff

[faint pasture]

Are the objects simulating physics?

[cursive grove]

yes

[faint pasture]

Do you know what the units of force in Unreal are? They're tiny

[hot lotus]

You are using blueprint only? Or did you make the data asset in c++?

[faint pasture]

@cursive grove What mechanic are you trying to make?

[cursive grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYWQuyCMUmM&ab_channel=LazarosInep

I want to pull stuff to my vacuum, when they collide with the transparent mesh

but instead the radial force applies the force around the point.

[thorn gazelle]

I'm using blueprint only, just used visual studio to add a plugin (Oculus lip sync). So the data asset is made in Blueprint, the parent might've been made in C++, that is part of the framework

[hot lotus]

Is it possible to have negative radial force? Never tried this before

[cursive grove]

yea 😄

[faint pasture]

Assuming you already have your collision set up right
Tick -> get overlapping actors -> add force

[hot lotus]

I don't know then sorry, you can try to rebuild the project in visual studio to see if it solves it

[cursive grove]

trying to refrain from ticks, I got interface

[faint pasture]

How you calculate the force is up to you. I'd start by just doing
SomeNumber x (ItemLocation - VacuumNozzleLocation)

[faint pasture]

You don't understand them then. You want to do something every frame, but NOT use tick?

[thorn gazelle]

I've deleted all intermediate files and then I had to rebuild .sln and start project from Visual Studio first time, but I didn't rebuild specifically, Ill try that...

[cursive grove]

I'm calling this while left mouse button is pressed

[faint pasture]

Yeah, how? Either tick or a timeline (which is basically a temporary tick)

There might be some fancy stuff you can do with fields in UE5 but a vacuum effect will be a force added on tick to the objects in the collider.

[cursive grove]

Checks if the weapon has slots, then if it can be sucked into the vacuum with the interface and then if it collides with the weapon collision mesh. I'm manually setting a boolean if the mouse is pressed

[faint pasture]

Show where you apply the force

[gentle urchin]

Vacuum is included in epics content examples

-ish atleast

With the UFO and the cows

[cursive grove]

My problem is that even if the stuff are not in the collision mesh, are getting pulled towards the player in RADIUS, I want a specific pyramid cone

[faint pasture]

You are giving those objects a 1 frame bump, that's it.

Do like I said

On tick -> Get overlapping components (Stuff in the cone) -> Filter however you want -> apply force

[high ocean]

Provided I know that a widget will always include the exact same two child widgets , is there a way to have a function reference them even though they don't exist? Case:
I have a widget blueprint holding various helper/utility functions which set a bunch of variables. I have a set of widgets inheriting from that. Since I can't mess with the parent's widget hierarchy, the parent is empty. I know it will always contain at least the same two children: A & B. I want to make functions that would refer A and B (which don't exist on the parent) and tell them to do some stuff since all widgets inheriting from this one will always contain the two. Any ideas?

[gentle urchin]

Make a function

For fetching the child widget

Override in child class with the correct child widget ref ?

[high ocean]

@gentle urchinIt's what I did.

I want MOAR automated behavior 😂

was just wondering if there's any way of doing it

I'm sticking this in every child now 😐

But...wait... Have it ready and called in the parent and override it 🤔

wouldn't that be virtually the same (I need to repeat the operation and provide the proper refs)?

[gentle urchin]

This is not the same 😄

Atleast not what i ment

But perhaps its not that easy, sorta depends on the usecase

Youd need an array of child widgets I think, for making it truly automated(?)

[high ocean]

So chilld !could contain some other stuff, but these two are set in stone. But since it could contain other stuff, I can't nest the two in the parent & mess with the hierarchy in the children.

Damn, it's so functionally limiting that you can't at least add to the widget hierarchy in children 😐

[high ocean]

But what do I feed in it? the parent doesn't know there will be the two widgets in there. Also thought about getting the variable "by name". Turns out that isn't so easy either, not for classes in any case

or wait...

an array of widgets would allow me to feed it the classes. I'll actually try that (won't probably work but yea). Actually they're different classes so nvm 🤦‍♂️

Anyway, it's "luxury" stuff, so I'll just manually do the 5 widgets 🤣

thanks tho @gentle urchin! 🙂

[gentle urchin]

Well you'd need to get them generalized i suppose , in one way or another

The parent would return nothing

[dapper marsh]

is there any way to know where my inputs are being consumed? I'm trying to do something with MouseWheelUp but I think the input is being consumed somewhere else...

[cobalt gulch]

How can I slow a players movement gradually over time if they are in an area of effect (collision) and make their movement go back to what it was after leaving over time

[cobalt gulch]

My question is kind of about multiplayer players but it works for both i think

[high ocean]

@cobalt gulchBeginOverlap -> get overlapping actor, if player, call a function on the player that sets it's movement speed to desired speed. End overlap, call the function again with default values.

[cobalt gulch]

Is there a way to do this with a timeline?

[high ocean]

@cobalt gulchyea, call an event that starts a timeline which reaches the desired speed over time 🤷‍♂️

so an event instead of a function (so it can contain a timeline)

[cobalt gulch]

Is there any way to check if a boolean is true false, but condense them all into a smaller function

[high ocean]

you implement it on the player. I recommend using a normalized value and do some math instead on the max movement speed on the player since maybe you'll want values to differ between volume types

[high ocean]

I don't understand the question.

[cobalt gulch]

Branches take up a lot of space, and i use the same code a lot

Any way to condense that ?

But still check a branch

[high ocean]

yes, by generalizing your code lol. Other than that, no, not really xD

[cobalt gulch]

Huh?

[high ocean]

if you use the same copies of code in many places, you are doing something wrong and not generalizing design enough

[faint pasture]

In multiplayer that's a very tough thing to get perfect vs singleplayer

[short reef]

So I added a blueprint as a child of another blueprint, but I can't access any of its functions from the parent blueprint

[high ocean]

🤔 actualy right... Didn't think of that. Then again I suck at MP 😂

[cobalt gulch]

Thats why I need to know how to condense the code so i can use it elsewhere without remaking it all

[high ocean]

but this depends on design and comes with experience both in developing overall and project-specific. There is no "way" of doing it.

[cobalt gulch]

Cus i tried a function which technically is working but it doesnt check through the branches

[high ocean]

From inheritance to function/macro libraries, exposing vars on spawn/as pins on functions/events/event dispatchers/interfaces, sky is the limit...

depends on specifics...

[cobalt gulch]

i need something which can check through branches

[candid geyser]

How would I go about finding the top something?

Like say I wanted to find out where the top of a wall is, so that the game can determine if it's too tall to mantle or not

[zealous moth]

use get bounds i'd say

[candid geyser]

I was thinking about that node but I wasnt sure what it did

[zealous moth]

but typically mantling uses the player character and a series of tracing

[tawdry surge]

You can do that but it's not guaranteed to be accurate

[zealous moth]

yeah scaling messes it up usually

[tawdry surge]

You might be better tracing up-ish and if the trace hits then the wall is too tall

[zealous moth]

lemme get you a drawin

[candid geyser]

Well right now I have a trace determining if the wall is too tall to mantle or not

[candid geyser]

I see what you mean, but I also want the player to be able to mantle things that are also just above their head

[zealous moth]

yeah, so trace there

[cobalt gulch]

guys?

[candid geyser]

Wait actually I m i g h t see what's happening here

[zealous moth]

what's up?

[candid geyser]

The arrow pointing to the box, would that be a vertical trace, and then the hit would determine where the top is at?

Because that's what im seeing

[zealous moth]

well, let's break it down with what you want and what mantling is

you want to check:

• there is an obstacle in front
• there is space on top to mantle
• there is a surface to mantle on

so you do 3 trace checks

[candid geyser]

Yeah

[zealous moth]

if you want to climb up, what should you check for?

and right now this is 2D, so if you ever want to do it 3D, you will need more checks depending on the logic

[tawdry surge]

@cobalt gulch you can use an AND operator to cut down on branches
You could put them in a function or macro and just pass anything else you need as an input
You could restructure your code with enums and rely on switches
Etc..
Lotta things you can do, just depends on your specific needs

[candid geyser]

Well its a 3D area im working in

I was just thinking that I could possibly only have to do ONE vertical line trace to determine that

• The wall is climbable
• The wall has a top the player can reach

And the a Capsule Trace which makes sure

• The top has enough room to climb up

[candid geyser]

@zealous moth Do you think this could do the trick?

This is kind of my idea

[raw orbit]

having some weird issue with my anim montages turning to slow mo even though its not about the playrate. i put this code in and a print string always reports play rate is 0.8

any idea what could affect a montage's speed other than play rate?

[candid geyser]

One line trace that, if theres a hit, the hit will always be on top of the object, and then wherever the hit is, it draws a capsule trace just above it to make sure there's room to climb

[candid geyser]

If I remember correctly, .8 means that the montage is playing at 80% of its normal speed

[raw orbit]

yeah, it is. i made it play at 0.8 cause the default montage is too fast

thing is it goes into like super slo mo, like 0.2 speed randomly.

its not consistent

[candid geyser]

Hmmm

[raw orbit]

sometimes it plays at intended speed sometimes not

[candid geyser]

Hmmm..

[raw orbit]

dont have this strange issue with some other montages, like attack montages, just the dodge ones

a real mystery lols

[candid geyser]

Are you sure it isnt to do with the actual montage itself?

[raw orbit]

it might but im not sure what setting might be making it move at different speeds randomly. or maybe the animation

[candid geyser]

Okay so I forgot how to make something trace straight ahead

[raw orbit]

a line trace? a box trace?

[candid geyser]

Line or Sphere

Right now im doing a sphere but a line trace would be better

Problem is I tried a few methods and the line wont show up :'D

Wait I think I got it

Fuck man it just refuses to draw the line trace

I dont even know if it's doing it

GOT IT

ITS TRACING

Now I just need to figure out exactly to offset the start of the trace a little so it's a bit in front of the player

Anyone have any suggestions?

Actually I have an idea again

[tawdry surge]

Same way you offset the end
World location + (direction * offset distance)

[raw orbit]

are you building an 'interactor' of some sorts so the player can detect objects in front of em?

[candid geyser]

Nah, it's just a system so that the player can mantle up objects that are short enough

[raw orbit]

oh okay well my interactor codes looks like this but maybe its not what youre looknig for

a bit messy maybe, im going to move it to cpp eventually once i understand how to odi t there

[candid geyser]

Im not sure what the multi sphere trace does

I assume it just tracks multiple hit locations

[raw orbit]

yeah

[candid geyser]

But I tried it once and I only tracked one at a time still

[tawdry surge]

It returns an array of all hits

[candid geyser]

Will it visually show all hits or just the most recent?

[tawdry surge]

You need to loop through to interact with all of them

[candid geyser]

Oh

[raw orbit]

i dont remember why i didi t like this anymore, maybe its not necessary.

[candid geyser]

That makes sense I suppose

Alright it's looking good so far B)

[zealous moth]

what is T2???

[sleek kite]

Hey, any idea on how I could query an API from URL to get the data?

Example - Would like to be able to get this to engine and convert each entry to string

https://tarkov-time.adam.id.au/api

[candid geyser]

Capsule Trace

[frail meadow]

is there a way to see the user's graphics card with blueprints?

[zealous moth]

you could do a capsule trace, I used a regular line trace

[candid geyser]

Ooooo okay

I just wanna do a capsule trace to make it easier to fit the dimensions

[zealous moth]

try to keep it to simple shapes 😉 box is another good alternative

[candid geyser]

Im gonna do a quick drawing of what the trace looks like so far

Does that make sense?

The first one making sure we're touching the wall and the second making sure it isnt too tall

Actually

The horizontal trace can probably go

Since the second one would confirm both that we're on a wall as well as that we're on top of it

[faint pasture]

Yeah just do a vertical one from MaxMantleHeight to MinMantleHeight

[candid geyser]

Would it be possible to put a capsule trace on the hit location?

To confirm that the player has enough space to actually be able to climb up without falling down

[faint pasture]

You just trace from an upper limit to a lower limit.
If the trace time is 0, it's too tall.
If it's 1, it's too short
if it's somewhere in between, the character will fit and you can mantle there

[candid geyser]

Is that what Out Hit Time is for?

[faint pasture]

It's for whatever you want but yes it tells you the percentage along the trace the hit was at

[raw orbit]

omg i think i found what has been randomly slowing my dodge anim montages

wow

[zealous moth]

you need 1 more to make sure the height is good

[candid geyser]

Cause I wont lie, when splitting the struct for a trace, I dont know what 35% of them mean

[raw orbit]

apparently my partner ididnt tell me he was experimenting with some 'bullet time' feature and time dilation

communication is key

[candid geyser]

Ohhhh so if the hit was say, 20% down the line itself, what would the float value be? 0.2?

[candid geyser]

On it!

[faint pasture]

ye something like that

[candid geyser]

Huh, that's neat! But im not sure as that would work for this scenario

Because I wanna make sure the area above the trace is what has enough room for the player to fit

[faint pasture]

Sure it would, you're trying to detect when you're in a mantleable scenario

[faint pasture]

Capsule trace

if the capsule fits at a time > 0, then by definition, they'll fit

[candid geyser]

Yup that was the plan! I was a little confused for a short second haha

Well the line trace doesn't go from the players feet to the top of his head

It starts just above his head and ends right below the waist

I was thinking about making it so that the capsule is made just above where the hit occurs

Wait wait wait wait wait

If the line trace is completely inside of a wall, it wont detect a trace anyways will it?

[faint pasture]

@candid geyserDo a capsule trace

[candid geyser]

Yeah I mean for getting the top of the object

[candid geyser]

For here

[faint pasture]

A line trace won't detect if it starts inside of something I'm pretty sure.

Not 100% sure on that though, and it'll depend on what the thing is maybe

[candid geyser]

I guess ill find out when I get ready to test it all out

Hmmm

[faint pasture]

I would just start by doing a capsule trace on tick with debug on to see how it's behaving. Later you can only do the traces when needed.

[candid geyser]

Oh I have it so that it does a persistent trace whenever the action key is pressed

[faint pasture]

Yeah that can work.

[candid geyser]

I can see what's going on so far and I can thankfully confirm that so far, it's doing what I want it to do

So this is whats happening so far

No capsule trace yet

The blue line is simply because at that point, the player would have to fully extend their arms to climb up

[mental trellis]

I would have used a box trace myself, so you can check the width too

[candid geyser]

What do you mean?

The width of what's being climbed isn't necessary in this case haha

[desert juniper]

This might be an interesting watch if you have some time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uikbLyi-cug

[mental trellis]

Yes, but if you're mantling, you need a hole of a certain size.

[desert juniper]

they talk about their climbing mechanics, and the checks they did to test if the player has enough height above them, in front of them, etc

[candid geyser]

Oh it's not parkour based haha, definitely has some similar mechanics though

[mental trellis]

If anything is triggering inside that red box, you're not gonna mantle.

[candid geyser]

Oooh I get what you mean now

[mental trellis]

The green one can probably be a forwards line trace

To detect walls

[candid geyser]

That way you can not only mantle on TOP of stuff, but through them as well

[mental trellis]

No, you do a secondary check at the end to see if there's a floor.

If there is, you stand up, if not, you drop down

[desert juniper]

yeah, though they're talking about parkour, a large section of the video is just about climbing/mounting mechanics
It's kinda just a general tech talk overview though, but may help get some ideas flowing

[candid geyser]

How wait is that an actual Unreal Engine video?

This game is third person by the way haha

[desert juniper]

i don't know actually, but doesn't matter

and doesn't matter that it's 3rd person. the mechanics should all still be the same

[candid geyser]

Oh that video is talking specifically about Dying Light

[candid geyser]

Wait so what exactly is this meant to be for?

[zealous moth]

does checking for class type not take into account if it is a child of the same class?

[desert juniper]

yes, explaining how they did it. like i mentioned, you should be able to pick up on some tricks

[mental trellis]

Mantling up to a surface and then either dropping down afterwards (vaulting) or standing on top (ledge grab etc)

[tight schooner]

I actually don't know via "get class", but I know a cast-to parent class will work

[desert juniper]

a simple cast is the way to go

just cast to the parent class

[candid geyser]

I would hope so! Im getting better at using Unreal Engine, but im still learning haha

[desert juniper]

ah okay, yeah it's just a general overview tech talk. nothing specific, and not a tutorial.
while nice to watch, agree that it may not be super helpful if you don't yet know the engine tools.
Still reccomend a watch when you have some free time and learn more
Once you learn more of unreal's tools, you'll be able to determine how to build these mechanics on your own without specific tutorials

[candid geyser]

So im assuming the top trace would be a hang, the middle would be the mantle, and then the bottom one would be to drop down, to hang down.

[candid geyser]

I still think the video would be useful in terms of learning how certain things were done

That way you at least have an idea for how to go about it if you wanted to replicate it in Unreal

[mental trellis]

In colours, dark blue could be a hang or an "I have to lower my head" animation (fit through the gap). Red would be a "Can I get through this gap?" Green is "Is there something to vault over?" Light blue would be "Is there something to stand on when I've finished vaulting? Do I have to stand up on top of something (like a box) or drop down to the floor again?"

[zealous moth]

that worked

ty

[candid geyser]

Damn, I thought I was close

[mental trellis]

To be honest, depending on your animation, the dark blue should be as long as the red one, so you head never goes through a potential ceiling.

And if dark blue and light blue are both triggered, you need to end in a crouch.

[candid geyser]

I honestly dont have many animations at all, and what animations I DO have are currently just assets

Im not good enough at animating to create anything decent looking

[mental trellis]

Then you don't need a long blue animation, just don't let somebody vault through a low gap.

[quasi steppe]

I'm trying to make a chunk system like in minecraft, but I don't know where to start, how can I do it. Is there a channel or documentation you can recommend?

[mental trellis]

1. learn cpp 2) profit

If you want to create something like Minecraft, it's gonna be a challenge in BP.

[candid geyser]

Well, when it comes to low gaps, the player will essentially have a feature where if you're crouching, and approach a gap that is too low to crouch under, but low enough to crawl, then the player will automatically enter a crawling state to fit that gap. And of course once there's room to crouch again, the player will stop crawling.

[mental trellis]

What I meant is, low gaps when vaulting.

[candid geyser]

But you very much brought the issue to my attention where you wouldnt be able to crawl THROUGH a hole

[mental trellis]

E.g. a small space above a box that you could squeeze through if you did gym for 20 years.

[candid geyser]

Not crawl, mantle*

[candid geyser]

Yeah

Thanks for showing me that issue haha

[mental trellis]

No worries.

[candid geyser]

I didn't even think about potentially having to go through a hole

[flat coral]

I've got a physics-based pawn that's supposed to enforce a max speed by gradually zeroing-out forward thrust as it approaches maximum speed, and applying a gentle backward force if it exceeds max speed.

The problem is, rather than gently slowing to maintain max speed, the moment it would apply backwards thrust it instead suddenly stops dead. Like the velocity becomes 0,0,0. I don't understand how it's even POSSIBLE to achieve full zeros by using AddForce, let alone by accident. Why is my pawn suddenly stopping?

Here's logs of the thrust and velocity, plus the length of both of those vectors (which is clearer I think). You can see how the thrust gradually decreases as we approach max speed, then SUDDENLY the velocity hits 0.

thrust=X=0.857 Y=-31.600 Z=0.462,    vel=X=-1.946 Y=-612.086 Z=43.451,     tlength=31.615,     vlength=613.629
thrust=X=0.779 Y=-28.701 Z=0.420,    vel=X=-1.917 Y=-613.139 Z=43.466,     tlength=28.715,     vlength=614.681
thrust=X=0.710 Y=-26.171 Z=0.383,    vel=X=-1.891 Y=-614.094 Z=43.480,     tlength=26.184,     vlength=615.635
thrust=X=0.643 Y=-23.709 Z=0.347,    vel=X=-1.868 Y=-614.967 Z=43.493,     tlength=23.72,         vlength=616.506
thrust=X=0.585 Y=-21.569 Z=0.316,    vel=X=-1.846 Y=-615.756 Z=43.504,     tlength=21.579,     vlength=617.294
thrust=X=0.532 Y=-19.596 Z=0.287,    vel=X=-1.827 Y=-616.475 Z=43.515,     tlength=19.606,     vlength=618.011
thrust=X=13.555 Y=-499.561 Z=7.310,    vel=X= 0.000 Y=0.000 Z=0.000,         tlength=499.798,     vlength=0
thrust=X=12.997 Y=-479.016 Z=7.010,    vel=X= 0.452 Y=-16.645 Z=0.244,     tlength=479.243,     vlength=16.653
thrust=X=12.525 Y=-461.597 Z=6.755,    vel=X= 0.885 Y=-32.611 Z=0.477,     tlength=461.816,     vlength=32.626
thrust=X=12.132 Y=-447.144 Z=6.543,    vel=X= 1.302 Y=-47.995 Z=0.702,     tlength=447.356,     vlength=48.018
thrust=X=11.794 Y=-434.679 Z=6.361,    vel=X= 1.707 Y=-62.900 Z=0.920,     tlength=434.886,     vlength=62.93

[candid geyser]

holy shit

thats a lot of words

[flat coral]

I know how to party.

[candid geyser]

with words?

[flat coral]

sure.

[copper bison]

felt like a glitterbomb went off :p

[candid geyser]

Im gonna be honest im too afraid of C++ to even try learning how to use it

[flat coral]

Also I like to think I'm generally pretty okay at unreal, especially blueprints, and what that means is by the time I gotta come here for help I have a whole fucking chain of debugging I've already done

[mental trellis]

Are you using AddForce in tick?

[candid geyser]

Despite having plenty of knowledge in JavaScript and even some in Lua haha

[flat coral]

Yeah

[candid geyser]

C++ still just looks scary to me, I would have no idea where to begin with it

[mental trellis]

Definitely not AddImpulse?

[flat coral]

You can see the AddForce in that BP screenshot

[mental trellis]

And just try reducing the force applied

Even make it zero, se what happens.

[flat coral]

Lol I legit just crashed unreal somehow. Be back in a minute!

[desert juniper]

https://www.learncpp.com/

CPP and any other oop language is going to my muuuuch different than JS
It's going to basically feel like learning to program all over again

I wouldn't personally recommend learning CPP as your first OOP/statically typed language right away

[candid geyser]

I mean I know that most coding languages have some similarities that you'll be familiar with quickly

Like opening and closing brackets and basic stuff

But C++ is just

S c a r y

[mental trellis]

c++ isn't scary.

[desert juniper]

that's like saying other languages are easy to learn because words in other language have capital letters too

lol

[mental trellis]

c++ isn't hard, if you pay attention!

[candid geyser]

I just find it intimidating because there's so much happening from my point of view

[mental trellis]

Algorithms are hard, unreal is hard.

But that's true in any language.

c++ just has a few extra features that you mostly don't need to care about for the first 5 years you're using it.

[candid geyser]

Looking at C++ code for the first time, even if it's just a few lines of code to make one instruction, I usually just get slightly overwhelmed

[mental trellis]

(okay, it has a few features you need to learn about right away too, but still)

So start with the basics. Do some tutorials on learncpp.com and find out what it all means.

[candid geyser]

Probably because I've been learning programming for 3 years now, and I hate when I look at code and cant at least have a good idea as to what's going on

[mental trellis]

The difference between . and -> What a pointer is. What a class is. Etc.

[candid geyser]

Unreal is hard? As in like, Blueprints?

Cause that's how I've been using it so far

[desert juniper]

what do you need C++ for?
Are you working on a large game with a team?

or running into performance issues?

[mental trellis]

Making any game in UE is hard. It's hard in any engine. It takes a lot of work and perseverance.

[candid geyser]

Nope, not at all, I just like expanding my skills in things

Im working alone haha

[desert juniper]

C++ in unreal is best used if it's your game base, and your blueprints derive from it

[candid geyser]

Yeahhh..

[desert juniper]

not so much to just add in and randomly sprinkle here & there

[mental trellis]

At least you aren't making an MMO or trying to create landscapes in blueprint.

[desert juniper]

id you don't feel like restarting your entire project, I'd recommend just sticking with BP

[candid geyser]

Other than just wanting to get more skilled, I also have been told that there's certain things in C++ that are easier to do than if you're using Blueprints

[desert juniper]

'easier'

math sure is. algos can be as well

but everything else is easier in BP imho

[candid geyser]

Yeahhh maybe ill just start a side project someday using some C++ haha

[mental trellis]

Being able to use predicates/function pointer is fantastic.

[desert juniper]

oh and multiplayer is 'better' done in C++ than in BP imo

[candid geyser]

But so far Blueprints have come off as overall better to work with

To me, I dont see many reasons to write an Unreal Engine game all in C++

[mental trellis]

Shouldn't do it all in cpp.

[candid geyser]

Blueprints are just generally faster, and easier if you ask me

[mental trellis]

cpp should do the heavy lifting, bp should do the decoration.

[candid geyser]

Honestly my #1 concern is definitely performance

I wanna make sure the game is as nicely optimized as possible

[mental trellis]

If your game has any kind of graphics beyond a text adventure, it's highly unlikely that cpp will make things better for you.

[desert juniper]

Reasons for CPP in my biased opinion:
Working on a game that requires performance highly performant code?
Working on a large game?
Working on a game that's gonna have a large focus on multiplayer?
Working on your second/third + game?
Working on a professional project?
Working on a game with a small+ sized team?
Working on a game with intricate game mechanics?

[mental trellis]

Unless you BPs are really bad or your levels/actor count is massive

[candid geyser]

But I know that optimization is more something to worry about much later in development

[candid geyser]

Uhhh do you have an example for what a really bad Blueprint looks like haha

Cause im pretty confident mine is messy

[mental trellis]

@toxic jay got that division screenshot handy? 😛

[candid geyser]

Not like a total disaster, but im pretty sure it could be cleaned up