blueprint

[frosty heron]

you are setting to null at begin play, so you are going to set the sprite to empty

click on the drop down to reffer to an asset

[lime crow]

o yeah, im still gettng that nul error though

[dark drum]

Make sure the actor is set to generate overlap events.

[frosty heron]

because what you are doing here have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with your Gunbase

which you never set to valid instance.

so long you never set Gunbase to valid instance, the error will persist.

[lime crow]

I think this is whats throwing me off, how exactly do i set a valid instance please, im not sure its a simple as using a set node because im dynamically picking up wepaons

[dark drum]

You would most likely need to set the ref when you pickup the weapon.

[lime crow]

i tried

[dark drum]

That ref isn't in the player though is it. Each actor has it's own set of references so because you set a ref in actor A, it doesn't mean actor B knows about it.

[lime crow]

it is not no

[dark drum]

You need to set the ref in the player as that is where you're trying to call the event from.

[lime crow]

from begin play? i get loads of errors

[dark drum]

Go to you're player character and look at your shoot event. You call a function on a var ref. This is the ref you need to set when you pickup you're gun.

[lime crow]

yeah i was trying this but i cant plug in that node

[dark drum]

It's the 'GunBase' ref you need to set.

[lofty rapids]

looks like shoot weapon doesn't have any inputs

other than target which is a default thing

[frosty heron]

his input work, he gets accessed none error on gun base because it is never set

[frank olive]

Okay so I got this in the event graph, and this in the transition rule, what do I trigger it with?

[frosty heron]

in here you get the local AimCheck (The aim check that is a member variable of the ABP)

so delete all of this

just type Get Aim Check

[frank olive]

oh, that's much easier

Thanks a lot

[lime crow]

i tried, same null error

[dark drum]

Show how you attempted to set it.

[frosty heron]

that's not setting

that's getting a reference to gun base and calling shoot weapon on the instance that is pointed by gunbase

but alas it was never set, so you are telling a non existance weapon to shoot. Hence the error message.

[dark drum]

Show you're logic for when you pickup the gun.

[frank olive]

I might be missing something becuase nothing is happening

[lime crow]

im about give up, my meta health is taking a battering over these shitty null refrences

[frosty heron]

we;'ve explained like 3 times why that doesn't do anything at best.

you are setting a reference to it self

if the reference is null, what would be the result of the set? Null

[lime crow]

i understand what is happening, i just dont have the knowwledge to appy a fix,

[frosty heron]

Lets start from the basic then, what is a reference?

Object reference specifically

[lime crow]

an object refrence is where you get a pointer to that object, so for instance you can place an object in the world and you can refrence i from another actor, via editor or run time?

[frosty heron]

object reference is the pointer

it's just a container that can point to a type you specify

Hence why this doesn't make a single sense

[dark drum]

Maybe this will help.

[frosty heron]

You want Gun base to point at an INSTANCE of GUn base that exist in the world.

[dark drum]

I can see you have a var called 'Equip' on the player character that you set to the gun that is being picked up in the pickup function. (on the gun) Swap the 'GunBase' ref for the 'Equip' ref.

[frank olive]

@frosty heron The animation is fully working now, thanks again for the help

[lime crow]

it wont go into the shoot function, i need to call that shoot function from the gunbase class

[lofty rapids]

why do you keep plugging itself into itself, thats not doing much

basically a null code, no point because it doesn't do anything

[lime crow]

yeah i thought that might set it, so it stores it, but yeah i get that its null now

[lofty rapids]

once you make a variable it's empty

[dark drum]

This is the gun base class as you're setting the ref inside the player character to self.

[lofty rapids]

you need to actually set its value

[lime crow]

yeah thats right, it gets the player sprite

[dark drum]

The bit I circled isn't. The bit I circled is you setting a var ref in the player character to the thing calling the logic. As this is in the gun base class, self is there for a gun base object.

[lime crow]

I appreciate all your help, i cant comprehend this, its me being dumb. Im going to call at a day

[dark drum]

Just swap the gun base var your using in your character to the equip on and it'll probably work lol.

[lime crow]

i need that refrence in the player though, beause the shoot function is inside the gunbase, so without it the player will nver be able to call it?

[lofty rapids]

when you make a variable just setting to the type doesn't automatically set the variable, you still need to put an actual item in the variable

so i'm guessing you picked the type assuming it would load that bp

[dark drum]

In your player character, drag the 'equip' var into the event graph and cast to the gun base class and then call the relevant function.

[lime crow]

the variable is set to an object refrence

[lofty rapids]

you have to actually set that reference

or how would it know to pick the proper one out of many ?

[dark drum]

He already sets the ref to 'equip' but because it's an actor ref, he made a new one called 'gunbase' that he doesn't set which has gotten him confused.

He just needs to use 'equip' var, cast and then call his function.

[olive sedge]

hi!

I have a widget and in that widget some keyboard events. those work but only in game mode game and game mode game and ui.. they don't work in UI only.. why?

[dark drum]

Are they enhanced input events?

[olive sedge]

idk what that means.. I just have this

[dark drum]

They only call on the 'Game' input. You need to override the various on key up/down events and check the key for UI only.

[olive sedge]

i see. what's the node for that?

do I have to do tick -> is key down?

[dark drum]

Its a function you override.

[olive sedge]

i see

thanks

[lime crow]

It does get rid of all the errors! no more nulls, but dosent spawn the projectile

[dark drum]

how is the weapon setup to spawn projectiles?

[lime crow]

i know this works, somehow i got object references working before and it managed to work, but i dont know this time

[dark drum]

It's probally not working because you don't se the player ref when it's picked up. This should be a simple as adding a set not to you're pickup function and setting it to the player character.

[olive sedge]

@dark drum my overriden OnKeyDown doesn't fire when I press a key

[dark drum]

The widget needs to be focused or in the focus path. In addition to this, you need to make sure the input isn't consumed/handled by another widget.

[olive sedge]

I get it now. my widget inherits from a C++ widget with NativeOnKeyDown

it seems I can't properly override that in the widget

I need to return Super::NativeOnKeyDown which fries my brain rn but ok..

[lime crow]

it works!!!! it all works man.

@dark drum @frosty heron Thank you very much to both of you! I would have never worked that out. The crap thing is ive done so many tutorials and watched so many videos on blueprint basics, yet i sill struggle so much, i guess i was in tutorial hell and never really learned anything.

[lofty rapids]

it's hard when you have a bunch of code and don't really understand what is going on, when an error pops up you have no clue where to look

it's nice to do things in steps and test along the way

so you know it was tested and worked, when you get an error it's way narrowed down

[dark drum]

Yea, tutorial hell can be a nightmare at times. Sometimes its best to try and find tutorials that explain 'why' they're doing something.

[lime crow]

Yeah definitley, i learn best when i can ask questions on things so it gels better, im really glad this is working, its a huge relief, im dreading the next part i enable weapon switching from the ui, but i guess it can be done with enough persistence! This system is probably the most complex part of my game, the scope is pretty small so going to try and keep it as simple as possible after this

[dark drum]

UI is always fun... 🥲

[lime crow]

😅

[maiden wadi]

I love UI. UI is easy. 😄

[potent vessel]

hello, is my first message here. I have a question, is there a way to use only mesh collision? I want to make a fightning game, but to make it better hitboxes I don't want to use the capsule component (I put the collision of the capsule component to ignore the character class) so only the mesh could collide. When I try to do that, the characters overlap each other...

[gentle urchin]

Hard to get good/nice imo 😅

[dark drum]

I'm with you on that one. lol.

[viscid panther]

quick question, I just found out data assets can change during runtime, but the issue is I dont want it being saved as well. Is there like a button i could press or do i just reset the values at event beginplay

[dark drum]

I'm working on sum UI stuff at the minute and I've gotten to what I'm happy with and realized I've missed the back button. 😭 Now I need to find a way to incorporate it with it looking like I've just plonked it in lol.

[gentle urchin]

Just put it right in there, last minute patch!

[dark drum]

The changes can only be saved via the editor so wouldn't affect a shipped build. I believe there is a function for reloading an asset but I'm not sure if it's specific to editor utility widgets.

[viscid panther]

ahhh i see, that makes sense

[marble badger]

What this does?

[north willow]

Hi there, does anyone know why my charakter rotates when i use the camera im using the third person template here is the code

[lilac hill]

Did you google it? It's like the first thing people wonder every time.
You're adding rotation to the controller, why are you doing that if you don't want it?

[granite nacelle]

hey could someone help with this got this issue in my project where my animation jitters a bit before equipping the axe, and when the player walks the walking axe animation plays for a while then it stops. here are the videos

[trim matrix]

If you can't help him, don't even bother answering

[rocky kelp]

I need some help making jumpscares for my game but every tutorial using a trigger box when I want it in the code for my enemy. I just want it to have a timer before a sound plays and the players head turns around. How can I do this?

[lilac hill]

Well i did help, and i expected a reply to the question. It's also called help to self help. If you have to think about why something is done, maybe you'll think about what you should do instead.

[acoustic mica]

I have a first person camera setup on my 3rd person. My issue is that when the player goes up against a wall he can see through the wall and I do have the "Do collision test" I also do have a spring arm attached but the distance is set to zero so the camera is attached to a bone and such and it is within the capsule borders just no idea why the player can still see through the wall when against the wall

[lilac hill]

Is it when you're running or walking? Tried moving the camera a bit back?

[acoustic mica]

i can be just standing there

its when i am up against the wall just standing there looking at it

if i move the camera back to much i start seeing inside my character

[lilac hill]

Seems like you're looking down, when you're not looking down can you still see through the wall?

[acoustic mica]

looking up or down or left or right

[lilac hill]

So when you add rotation to the camera, it goes outside the collision boundries

[acoustic mica]

well most people have rotations to their cameras for movements so how one would prevent a camera stop seeing through a wall

[lilac hill]

Not sure what the industry standard is, but i just move my camera a bit back and make the character invisible to self. A lot of games make the character invisible to self, but cast a shadow, and add fake arms in front. I want to add the body back in, but without the head, but still cast shadow.

[iron gale]

is it possible to open the oculus quest keyboard when trying to type on for example a editable text

[queen valley]

Extend the capsule, or add another collision, so player cannot get that close

[sweet frigate]

does Event Tick take too much resources?
I have a project, where I created a cannon and connect an event to event tick to update the rotation of my cannon to always look at player.

[acoustic mica]

it can depends on what you doing. I avoid it by using timers but there is one project I have that I have no choice because it need extreme precision where I only found event tick can provide but use it rarely

[sweet frigate]

So event tick runs on every frame right?
So using timer, I can limit it to maybe every 0.1s?

[acoustic mica]

there was one tutorial i saw where a guy was using event ticks for a lot of things and i was gringing lol

[lost hemlock]

How can I implement the Easy Building System with my inventory & crafting system???

The EBS has these two data tables, i wanna implement them with my own ingredients lists and stuff like that

and im looking to collect some of those thumbnails for my menus that this EBS thing has, perhaps ill put it in an empty level, then take a screenshot and remove BG and put it back again?

[acoustic mica]

right timers are better if you can get away with it

for example i have a project where when my crosshair changes to an eye when something is interactable I have a timer on it and set so low that the player does not see much of a delay I first used a tick for it as a tester to make sure it worked and the performence was better with the timer and tweaking the timer I saw no difference in the outcome except better performence

[queen valley]

You could also make a custom event and put a 0.1 delay and then make it call itself I think

[acoustic mica]

but on another project I made a flying system that syncs with the camera and i tried a timer and caused enough delay it was a problem and a tick was better for that system because I needed the precision compared to a timer

so it depends on what your needs are

[sweet frigate]

Yeah, made 0.01s timer and it works perfectly

[acoustic mica]

nice

yea in most cases timers and delay methods work better for performance in rare cases tick maybe the only option

[queen valley]

Even with nothing connected, if there is a tick node, and it is not gray, it takes performance, but I think in your use case its alright, won't be much. Remember, you can always use the profiler

[sweet frigate]

Yeah, I am new to it. Will check what profiler is later?

[acoustic mica]

yea when i start a new project or new blueprints i generally delete all placeholder nodes it gives you that is not connected to anything just to keep things clean

[queen valley]

Sure, I think a new way to do profiling, is to open unreal insights and then click record. Then launch your play in editor and stop it after a few seconds/minute, then you can see what is performance heavy

[queen valley]

Yea, but they start out gray, so it won't tick until you use it

[vernal willow]

I have a class of (the purple colored variable) in a blueprint that I created, connected to a node that is now deleted as I was no longer going to use it, and now I am left back at the start with the variable. I can do things with the variable but attempting to delete the variable crashes the editor with the crash logs not specifying what is still holding onto it.

Yes I have source control and could go back and grab the old version of the class, but I want to know why it is doing this.

[queen valley]

Maybe it tries to find all the times it was used or smth but fails

[acoustic mica]

oh i know lol I just hate having nodes in my blueprints that is not being used personally

just like in blender most people first thing they do is delete the default cube lol first thing i do is delete those grayed out nodes

[queen valley]

I delete them when I see them, but I don't go in every blueprint I made deleting nodes lol

[acoustic mica]

oh no I do not need to I just delete them as i open a new blueprint if i forget i do not stress on it just a habit kind of thing

[dark drum]

As any FYI, timers or delays with a time smaller than delta time do impact frames.

You can specify the frequency tick is called in the default settings for the BP. Unless you need to start/stop the timer, you'd be better of just setting the tick interval.

You'll fill however find that more often than not, movement stuff needs to be handled on tick or it'll look choppy.

[zealous moth]

having a brainfart, if I have 95% hit chance, how do I use random float in range to determine if my value is within range?

[gaunt stirrup]

hi there can someone please help
does anyone know why the animations will work on the metahuman on the left and not the right

[lusty birch]

screenshot for those who uncheck tick on everything

[lusty birch]

You can use random bool with weight for that?

[zealous moth]

oh?

nice

never knew of that node

thanks @lusty birch

[gentle urchin]

theres a setting which turns them off by default

which is what should've been default imo

[lusty birch]

I think It doesnt affect components, but I might be wrong

[gentle urchin]

wouldnt surprise me if it only affects actors

[gaunt stirrup]

is there an animation thread?

[gentle urchin]

channel? #animation

thread thread, sure yes it can be on its own thread

[lusty birch]

Also they said in 5.6 empty ticks will have 0 overhead

[final python]

Are both of these viable structures of an inventory? You store an array of ItemData struct, which includes icon, details, name, max stack size, InventoryObject reference, etc in your inventory component, OR you store an array of InventoryObject references in your inventory component, and each object holds an ItemData struct (minus the object reference obviously).

While the second option seems more straight forward, I would like the first option, since you can isolate inventory management away from the objects themselves. But idk if 1 is just straight better than the other or not.

[gentle urchin]

second is more flexible

[lusty birch]

but benchmark from Ari says it should have almost zero impact on game thread (empty ticks)

[gentle urchin]

almost zero > zero

I think it'd be nice to just be explicit about wanting to use tick

when people run around with thousands of actors, anything counts

Im usure what the ItemStruct itself is tho. Wouldnt that be something like a Data Asset? Static item info... And then some additional variables for instance data?

That's kinda how Lyra handles inventory with its definition (Data asset) and instance ( data asset + instance data)

[final python]

yea I figured, especially since it would be easier to add new item object children that do different stuff, but the only thing I think of is if for instance you make a crafting system that also uses the objects, then the crafting system doesn't rly need to know anything about the inventory (depending), or if you equip an item (assuming equipment management is separate from the inventory) and it goes into another array, then the object doesnt carry any inventory data with it.

[gentle urchin]

crafting would mostly care about the static data anyways

item name and possible some instance data like rarity

[final python]

I guess you could make another struct to hold CraftingData, and it reads the data from the inventory. Like I get why storing inventory data in the object is straight forward, but if its rly only the inventory that needs to know max stack size and those type of details, then you could easily make like a struct for the objects that just carries the name and stuff over for other systems.

[gentle urchin]

A Crafting recipe would just be some Map of <ItemDefitinition, int>

int for the amount

yeah nothing else cares about the stack size

if a recipe needs 30 of some item

it doesnt care if it comes from 1 or 30 slots

[dark drum]

Eri covers tick in his myth busting article. It's a complex story but if you need to use tick, you need to use tick. Swapping out for timers delays or what ever else you can think of, still isn't going to change much as it all boils down to what you're actually doing.

https://dev.epicgames.com/community/learning/tutorials/l3E0/myth-busting-best-practices-in-unreal-engine

[gentle urchin]

as long as they all exist

[rocky kelp]

^ still need help over here if anyone can

[short storm]

Does anyone know why the the timer part of my widget disappears? It's one widget with static text, and a binding to a timer in my character blueprint. When I "inhabit" the pawn, the widget stays up, but just the countdown disappears, and I can't figure out why only the binding disappears.

[gentle urchin]

triggerbox + timer ?

[rocky kelp]

I’m trying to avoid using a trigger box

[autumn pulsar]

Is there a real limit/downside to how many actor components you can attach? Or is it really just a matter of preference

[gentle urchin]

for what purpose

isn't it the perfect tool for the job?

you don't know how long time the player takes to get to X location

using a triggerbox means they can go whatever pace they want

[rocky kelp]

Since I want the jumpscares to a be a part of the code so it can be randomized instead of just happening when hitting a point

Unless I’m misunderstanding

[gentle urchin]

it can still be randomized

the spawning of the triggerbox can be randomized

so you'd setup your level with "spawnpoints" for both enemies and triggerboxes

[rocky kelp]

Oh ok I’ll go figure this out thank you

[gentle urchin]

limit is massive, dont worry

[final python]

which you could still pass necessary data anyways, like if you needed the amount, you could just retrieve the current amount stored. It's just there is a lot more other things I have in my ItemData that only the inventory needs, like rarity. I guess it just comes down to how robust of a system you want, and if you want to actually seperate everything out like I am trying to do.

[lusty birch]

Yes my screenshot is from this talk 😄

[gentle urchin]

I've gone for structs the last N times i've made an inventory

regret it every time 😄

usually means it's gonna be more rigid and project specific, meaning i can't resuse it as easily

Unless i structure everything the same, every time, but that's not a given

[final python]

Oh yea I'm definitely not designing for other projects.

[gentle urchin]

multiplayer ?

[final python]

no lol, not even attempting multiplayer, I've made a few little local projects to mess around with it, and learn, but def not doing anything serious multiplayer.

[gentle urchin]

then you're pretty much good to go!

I wouldnt worry much about separation tbh

I Inormally dont really consider crafting "outside" the scope of the inventory component (depends on complexity )

Usually they end up tied together anyways, so they may just be the very same thing imo

[lusty birch]

Yep you can make whole single player game in level blueprint if you want 💁

[gentle urchin]

Dont share such secrets

Its not to be known 😄

[autumn pulsar]

Seperation is just for sanity’s sake

[final python]

alright, then I will refactor this, I guess everything has a refactoring stage eventually haha. It was just in my mind making sense to store inventory objects in a struct with all the item data in the inventory component. I could still use a struct just so its 1 variable lol, but just store it in the object.
ty for the help.

[gaunt stirrup]

is there an animation channel

[gentle urchin]

I answered this

[autumn pulsar]

#animation

[gentle urchin]

just dont get stuck in refactor hell

It's an easy trap to get stuck in

https://tenor.com/view/loop-gif-9652528079824579829

[autumn pulsar]

It’s a bit down to preference. If you have a static inventory set you can get away with a simple system

[potent vessel]

is possible to do this?

[lusty birch]

Just make another project when you know weakness of your current test

[autumn pulsar]

For more complex things might be good to have an inventory object and a world object

Then the inventory object has a soft reference to the world object so it can spawn it

[gentle urchin]

overengineering is also a thing to watch out for

hah

[autumn pulsar]

Yeah, if you’re only going to have 3 items it’s not worth it to make something complex

[gentle urchin]

my quest system feels so flexible rn it's hard to even explain how it works or how its ment to be used

[autumn pulsar]

I think flexibility is good for long term solutions

[gentle urchin]

tried making it reusable for anything, with near 0 assumptions about what a quest means to your project

[autumn pulsar]

especially something like a quest system

[gentle urchin]

was 92% done before i found a glitch

now im stuck refactoring

[autumn pulsar]

Rip

[gentle urchin]

safe to say another project turned up in my library ;:D

[autumn pulsar]

I’ve done that

Thinking I had the hottest shit only to realize there was a nontrivial flaw

[gentle urchin]

hard lessons

[autumn pulsar]

Currently trying to make a weapon combo system and realizing I’m going to have to do like 3 other systems

[gentle urchin]

I'm doing something as dumb as a pickup atm

apparently not as easy as i first imagined

wondering if i just overcomplicate things tho

[autumn pulsar]

I did an interact system, where I got the closest objects and their interactions

I need to redo it to be smarter

[gentle urchin]

This is a top down grid based game

trying to integrate with DA, but I must admit it's not all that I expected it to be (so far)

[autumn pulsar]

Ahh

[lusty birch]

DoShit52Subsystem

[gaunt stirrup]

is there a reason my character cant change out of a t -pose?

can u pls help lol

[zealous moth]

has there been an easy framework to drop actors randomly in a level in editor?

other than using a manager or something

[autumn pulsar]

Drag and drop the blueprint?

Oh you mean find a random spot to spawn them?

[zealous moth]

yeah

like i got a huge scene, some places need it others don't, can be scattered

gotta make it as tedious as possible to make the 2h mark on steam you know 😉

[surreal peak]

You'll need to provide more information. T Pose Characters mean you have no AnimationBlueprint set up with proper Animations.

[surreal peak]

Probably your own little helper Blueprints for it. Nothing else is known to me.

[lusty birch]

Pcg💁

[zealous moth]

pcg?

[zealous moth]

but I don't wanna~

[surreal peak]

#pcg-framework

Procedural Content Generation

Can maybe be used for it, but not sure. Only really saw more static stuff with it being made

Like environments

[zealous moth]

it's part of the environment

good enough

[gaunt stirrup]

does anyone have any idea why one metahuman will change animationas but the other wont?

does it have to get with getskeletal mesh asset

[faint pasture]

its hard

well, not impossible

but the example code out there is an OOPy mess and they're slow as hell

[gentle urchin]

Sooo dont bother ?^^

Im already limited on time so wfc feels like a stretch

Im currently at the placement and triangulation steps of the pathing algo between rooms

Kinda forgot which algo i was gonna try tbh 🤔

[faint pasture]

You can take mine for a spin once I'm done with it

it's pretty fast

I think I still have some statistical problems, note how there seems to be too many blue pixels in the output vs the input

[gentle urchin]

Pretty dynamic results aswell

Hmm yeah they seem pretty dense now that you mention it

Still you're well on the way with it

The principle doesnt seem that complex

[faint pasture]

It's really not, I think I'm getting my perf from my approach. I'm ONLY doing the overlapping model and the "superposition" state that the output is in is actually in the data. Each pixel is a byte, with each bit being a color. 11111111 is "anything can go here", 10000000 is "This is collapsed to Red", etc.

so there's no keeping track of stacks of patterns, all the patterns get bitwise ORed together and stamped into the output. I think there's some speed gains there.

I want to make sure it's as correct as possible and all the statistics kinks are worked out, then I want to enable multilayer WFC (basically stacks of runs), then I'll release it. I'm only ever going to have it work on pixels, the translation from 2d pixel bitmap to 3d world geometry is up to the game. Basically "Lines of red = wall meshes" etc

The multilayer approach would be like if you wanted to generate a town. You'd have 1 run that places lots, roads, and open land, then within each "island", you'd have a separate run. Smaller runs are much faster than big ones and can run in parallel.

[inland crystal]

There's an official WaveFunctionCollapse plugin in unreal

[faint pasture]

It uses a totally different approach and is mostly for editor time work.

Here's the generation of a cave system with some enemy spawn locations

[gentle urchin]

Looks pretty dope

with seemingly much of the controllability i want 😄

[faint pasture]

I'll hook you up if you wanna be the guinea pig

I don't have a game for it right now so it'd be useful for us both

[gentle urchin]

Id be happy to !

[faint pasture]

pmd

[lost hemlock]

the problem is, i cant connect my own systems to EBS's system
Easy Building System for example here requires you ---> 100 wood to make the most simple small thing
Image
This is waaaaaaaaaay too much wood, where I wanna make smth like this with 1-2 wood only

@dawn gazelle do you know anything about this?

[marble badger]

how to get bounding box independent of rotation?

[lost hemlock]

This wood is not connected to my inventory system.
Im trynna implement this Easy Building System with my current Inventory & Crafting Menus.
(Sorry, I made it in one image so that it's easier to read 😂 )

Should I change these structs?

[hardy ice]

Hey there, I've been looking into the crouch system that comes with Character and stumbled across this value. Doesn't seem to do anything and I don't see it being used in any way inside the Character or Pawn implementations. Is there anything I'm missing?

[twin oxide]

Does the VaRest "Apply URL" node only expect an object as root ? Can it be an array of objects ? Or do i need to make it a root object in my API first ?

[dawn gazelle]

Learn the plugin first.
Figure out how the information flows from one place to another.
Figure out how information is input, and what you expect as output, and where these are handled within the plugin.
Slowly try to integrate parts of it to use your inventory system instead of its own systems.
Build anything else that may be necessary in order to get the results you want.

In the end, if you want the plugin to utilize your inventory system, you'll likely have to convert the majority of it to read from your item definitions (however you may have them set up, was it a data table?) and communicate with your inventory components rather than using what it has.

[maiden wadi]

It sets BaseEyeHeight in ACharacter::RecalculateBaseEyeHeight(). BaseEyeHeight is pulled from APawn::GetPawnViewLocation, which in turn is used in APawn::GetActorEyesViewPoint, some AI stuff for their control rotation as well as in APlayerCameraManager::UpdateViewTarget sometimes.

[hardy ice]

Wow thanks, that's very detailed

So it is used, I was just looking in the wrong places (I did find RecalculateBaseEyeHeight() and such, but not the camera manager one)

[lost hemlock]

but it's not a plugin

im not using plugin

[trim matrix]

unreal editor crashing bc PIE references a function whose name has been modified

yeah be careful with that so you don't get crashed like I did lol

[dawn gazelle]

"Easy Building System" can be considered a plugin.

[lost hemlock]

alright

[lost hemlock]

I wanna show you something

I replaced all these

with my own f_slot_struct

instead of the structure that they had <----

it was a structure that wasn't compatible

Also changed this

it's not a problem because this is just a duplicated project <---- if all fails, I can just go back to the previous one

@dawn gazelle so remember when I asked about this?

and I pointed to a problem here?

Because?? Because the materials weren't compatible

It was getting it's type of materials from an e_num

it was completelly different

kinda like trynna install a (DDR3) memory ram on a (DDR5) computer

as you can see here my inventory system is using F_SLOT_STRUCT <--- content array

[dawn gazelle]

Right... So if it's different than what you're using, but you still want to use it, you'll have to change whatever is using the plugin's way of doing things to match your inventory. I can't tell you everything you need to change to get it to work. You'll have to figure that out.

[lost hemlock]

yes and I did it

But there's a catch <----

I fixed ||***ALMOST ***|| everything

I guess I'll do the same thing as well?

My struct is a bit different, so this will never be compatible

[tribal gazelle]

My character goes under the ground during a sliding montage when I change the capsule height.. anyone know how I can fix or work around this?

[lost hemlock]

@dawn gazelle

[dawn gazelle]

Any place that you change out a structure, will require any place referencing that previous structure to also be changed to the new one.

[lost hemlock]

yes

but that means i need to replace the previous struct too

which will not be compatible

This is the BuildingObjectSettings < ----- I don't have anything close to it

[dawn gazelle]

You are trying to make this thing work with your system... If you can't connect it together, that means there is still more changes needed so it is adapted to yours.
You may well need to completely ignore anything to do with this building system's inventory and how it defines what is needed and how it defines its items, but that means you'd need to replace anything referencing what it normally uses with your own item and inventory system. It's likely not an easy task, it's likely a lot more work still, and it's not something that can be easily explained over Discord messages, especially by a party (myself) that doesn't fully understand either your inventory system or the building system.

You gave a great analogy earlier, but it's a little backwards.... You have a stick of DDR5 and you're trying to plug it into a DDR3 slot... You can't adapt the motherboard... You have to pull the motherboard out entirely and put in a new one, along with anything else that needs to be upgraded to facilitate the DDR5 memory... Like the CPU, maybe even the powersupply.

[lost hemlock]

Can you be more specific? What exactly about my inventory system or building system do you not understand, and I can get down to explaining it.

For example, here's how my structs work, and a little information about my Inventory System

Im barely even using the S_ItemData

Most of it it's FSlotStruct <---- that's the one also doing all the heavy-lifting inside of the building stuff too so far, at least based on all the structs I've replaced

[dawn gazelle]

Sorry, I don't have the time to learn the intricacies of both the plugin nor your inventory system. All I can do is make recommendations about very specific things you may be having trouble with, but I can't go over 500 different aspects of these systems to try and get it to work how you want. If you ask large vague overcomplicated questions, you're going to get vague answers in return.

If it doesn't connect, you can't use it. It's really as simple as that. What do you need to change it to? What you need it to do instead. What do you need it to do instead? You need to be able to answer that - if you can't then you're not at the level yet of understanding either the plugin or your own inventory system.

[lost hemlock]

Well I changed this struct which was connected to all the other things like this, it basically was an Enumeration that had 3 types of materials... Wood, Metal, Stone <---- Now this has been replaced by a simply Name ID. So now instead of the previous struct, I have a struct containing only Name ID and Quantity. This is what is used inside of my functions.

But that is why im having these issues here...

I don't have this Building_Requirements Data Table in my struct, and im asking your advice about how you would go about this?

These are literally all my Structs right here, I posted above

That's literally all the structs I have ^

So I guess, Building_Requirements can be the same as Building_Recipe <---- ????

This makes it similar to the crafting system <----- which I already have!!!!!

I already have a crafting system

[lost hemlock]

These are 3 Inventory structs

My crafting system only has one struct<----

This is also how the crafting system works

[pulsar osprey]

this is a lot of information for someone casually looking at a discord channel to inspect and help with in a short period of time

[lost hemlock]

true

[pulsar osprey]

if you are using two separate plugins made by different people, you need to make some sort of adaptor between the two, which requires YOU to understand how they both work at a decent level

i think you understanding it enough to make these commented images is a good start

[lost hemlock]

thank you

But they are not plugins lol

these are plugins xD

[lost hemlock]

this is a lot of information even for me, lol, human brains only have so much RAM. That's why I think it's more helpful to look at images like these that illustrate things to our homo sapiens brains in a more illustrious way

But this is probably the most complicated level my project will get, after this point I'll try to not add more complex developments lol because Im pushing my mental CPU to the limit, and I hope it doesnt overheat. I think I'm violating my brain's labor rights way too much that my neurons are drafting a resignation letter

if there was a button, where by pressing it I could give away 5 years from my life to add 5 IQ points to my brain CPU I would.

after all 5 years isn't that much

[pulsar osprey]

5 years is a lot

[lost hemlock]

True, but think of it this way: with 5 extra IQ points, you might finally figure out how to get those 5 years back <----

[dawn gazelle]

Here's the problem... I don't know enough. I have 0 clue, nor idea, what kind of impact changing anything within the plugin may have and what those changes could have on everything else within that system. I literally cannot tell you what is needed in order to get you to where you need to be and it would require far too much time investment from me that I am not willing to provide in order for me to fully understand what this building system does and what it needs to accommodate your current inventory system.

How would I approach this problem myself? I wouldn't even be trying to adapt a plugin to a youtube tutorial inventory system in the first place. I would've designed systems from the get go that can mesh together well and then build them in tandem, and adapt them later if need be, all the while gaining an understanding of what it is I'm building, and how it connects together, so that later on I may actually be able to rework it if I need to in case something isn't working as I need them.

If I was in your position where this was dropped on my lap to do, then I would start by learning how these systems work first, understand what my needed inputs are, and what my needed outputs are so that I can figure out how they can mesh together, and then change everything needed to do it. I can't really be more specific about your current issue as I don't understand enough about the systems.

And again... It is a code plugin, whether it's packaged in plugin form or not. You're using someone else code and trying to ....plug it in... to your own systems. What you're discovering here is a problem of using other people's code - you have to learn and understand how they did things and if you want to customize it, and you need to change whatever is necessary to get it to work with what you want, whatever that may be.

Like... It may honestly be easier to just... Dump your own inventory sytem and just use theirs... I really don't know if that's feasible or not for what you have planned with your inventory.

But guess what... That means readjusting all those widgets you made so it now works with their system instead...

Along with any other gameplay mechanics you may have created that utilize your inventory system.

[lost hemlock]

they dont have an inventory system, lol

[dawn gazelle]

If it's prompting you for certain amount of resources, they certainly do.

[lost hemlock]

just some function trackers of how many wood,metal,stones (meterial points?) you got.
But I guess that's also how my inventory system works? lol

[dawn gazelle]

It may not be called an inventory, but it is.

[lost hemlock]

true

but it's a little bit different

[dawn gazelle]

I think its a lot bit different.

[lost hemlock]

Like I tried to describe it here

hammer and axe are craftable items

and everything can be picked up

as an inventory system and added to your inventory system

getting all these now to somehow work with this other inventory system would totally feel really annoying

because it would be like I made all these for nothing, lol

[pulsar osprey]

welcome to iterative design

[dawn gazelle]

Do you think Leonardo DaVinci's first paintings were masterpieces?

Did we start making buildings by starting with skyscrapers?

[lost hemlock]

yes but for example....

[lost hemlock]

look at this coconut tree

this is more than just an inventory item

it has CODE inside of it

meaning you can plant this tree

it grows

you can harvest it

[pulsar osprey]

surely that can be reused in some capacity

[lost hemlock]

it will show you health widgets etc etc

[pulsar osprey]

none of that is tied to it being an item

[lost hemlock]

same for this coconut

[lost hemlock]

true

ok so that means i can just make items for the building system , as in for these things to be more compatible?

[dawn gazelle]

Sounds like a simple "resource" actor that you can define what resource it gives, and upon a successful "harvest" of the object, it would add something to your inventory. Once chopped down, over time using a timer or something, it can grow back.

[lost hemlock]

ok that isn't rly a problem lol

the actor just dies after you chop it lol

so you wanna know whats even crazier?

[craggy flicker]

yes

[lost hemlock]

the complexity of this project is probably not even done here, even if i solve all these problems with the EBS plugin lol

is that I even wanna do a farming system as well <----- to top this all off with even more blueprint craziness as a cherry on top

[craggy flicker]

It sounds like you need to abstractify and modulate the fuck out of your project

[craggy flicker]

Joking btw

[lost hemlock]

please elaborate

[pulsar osprey]

this

[craggy flicker]

Create base item templates and use data structures

For example

[lost hemlock]

someone told me to make it generalized, as in the code being able to be reused again and again, smth like that

or "generic"

is that what you mean?

[pulsar osprey]

farming and building and inventory and crafting are separate pieces. they have some interface, but otherwise should not communicate with eachother

[lost hemlock]

that's what this is, lol

[craggy flicker]

ItemStructure, a custom struct in u5

• ItemName string
• ItemType someEnum
• isInventory
• isMelee
• isConsumable
  Etc

Add this as a custom variable to your actor item and change accordingly

You can go further and create a spreadsheet of items

[craggy flicker]

not exactly

You could use a factory class design philosophy

[dawn gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-working-hard-disney-factory-sad-gif-20943170

[craggy flicker]

Just throwing some ideas

[craggy flicker]

Lmao I felt this

I’m encountering a similar design problem in my current game lol

[lost hemlock]

These are the structs im using for my inventory system, lol

i also have a crafting system, but only uses one struct 🤣

[craggy flicker]

Okay good, you can go further and create a BaseItem blueprint class that’ll directly load some models and textures from the folder tree.

Use interfaces maybe for custom logic that’ll apply to certain item types

Again just throwing ideas

Abstraction is your friend in these sort of games tho

[lost hemlock]

My game should come with a 'Dont try this at home' warning for other developers.

[craggy flicker]

It’s just an issue that appears when a game has a ton of interactive items

I’m doing something similar for this coffee shop game im making lol

[pulsar osprey]

imo inventory and crafting systems shouldn't have too much work put into them because they really arent the fun things in games usually. just a means to an end...
the more transparent and easy to use the better for most games

[lost hemlock]

for me this game is very crafting oriented <---- its literally a game that is supposed to be all about crafting

this game is 90% about crafting the next thing

like the game "Stranded Deep"

it's not really a recommendation or a suggestion, you literally have to craft the next thing to survive <---- thats how i love it

it's totally different from all those games that just slap some useless crafting&inventory mechanics just as a side quest

for me this is the main quest, there are no other quests

or Subnautica is kinda like this too.

maybe 80% of the game will be crafting

[frosty heron]

Ain't nothing innovative or special tbh

Just another survival game inventory

[jovial steeple]

To be honest, crafting can be super fun in games. I feel like it is silly to say a certain mechanic just shouldn't be explored as a generality. Subnautica was a perfect example as the crafting station defined a lot of the games goals. Unlocking new crafts felt amazing, the satisfying crafting animation/sound effects was such a dopamine rush, especially on the bigger crafts like the vehicle stations.

Super early on in that game, you had some crafting recipe, and it required some palm oil or something. But the only way to get the palm oil was from these huge glowing fruits in a dark seaweed forest. Just so happened that the forest was full of a bunch of terrifying sharks. I remember that lead to this awesome experience trying to rush in and collect the oils, getting lost in that forest, getting the shit scared out of you by these sharks.

Simple crafting benches can defiantly be used to lead the player towards fun gameplay experiences.

To many times although, the crafting benches just lead the player towards hours long of grinding copper ore or something equally painful and not fun...

Yea

[frosty heron]

It runs on the machine that have authority of the actor.

It runs on the server if the authority is the server

For locally spawned actor, it will run on the client that spawn the actor

So it's not always run on server

It depends

E.g. you are a client and you spawn an actor. You have the authority of that actor so the switch on authority will run on your machine even though you are not the server.

Switch has authority just filter between authority and remote

It doesn't mean, run this on server

The only way for client to communicate to server is with server rpc

Client wants to buy an item -> check if have money -> server rpc I want to buy this item.

The function on the server then gets called, checking if the player have money

If valid, server add an item to the replicated item or array of the player

Player on rep item -> broadcast on item added and you can do what you want with the event. E.g. updating UI or popping a msg that the item is purchased.

[jovial steeple]

For clarification, as a remote client, you will not have authority over your players character, even though it is "locally spawned". "Locally spawned" could be confusing wording.

[frosty heron]

Your characters IS NOT locally spawned.

They are spawned by the server hence you won't pass as the authority on the switch check.

[jovial steeple]

Yea yea ofc, but just the wording.

[frosty heron]

Locally spawned is very easy to understand

It's just an actor the client spawn.

Which means no one else would even know it exists, just your computer.

Because replication only work from server to client.

[jovial steeple]

Just saying cause it confused me when I had no idea.

[frosty heron]

Think about building placement system.

Where you want to have a ghost building.

You don't want other players to see it.

So you can just spawn that locally.

Spawn locally = spawn actor node executed by a client.

Replication only works from server to client

Setting a replicated variable as a client will only change the value in its own machine.

Marking a variable as replicated doesn't magically replicate it for everyone.

Replication is server to client.

So if client -> ask server to change the value with server rpc.

The variable will then be replicated to everyone.

If server, just change the value right away. It is the server. The value will be replicated to everyone.

[jovial steeple]

Yea there is absolutely nothing in unreal that "Replicates" REMOTE -> AUTH. Replication does not support REMOTE -> AUTH.

It only supports AUTH -> REMOTE.

Any REMOTE -> AUTH stuff is handled using a different system. RPCs

[frosty heron]

Biggest tip. Just remember that the only way for client to talk to the server is via server rpc.

Once you accept that, goint forward is much simpler.

And client don't directly talk to other client. Ue doesn't support P2P out of the box

It is using server to client model.

Which mean server is the truth and authority.

And replication is done from server to client.

Multiplayer is hard, replication is just the basic and it's taking quite a while for it to click.

[jovial steeple]

EX 1:

1. An AUTH client changes a variable that is tagged as replicated.
2. The AUTH client automaticly sends the new value of said variable to the proper REMOTE clients.

EX 2:

1. A REMOTE client changes a variable that is tagged as replicated.
2. Nothing happens. Nobody else is notified about the new value. Cause replication doesnt support REMOTE->AUTH.

for bonus, EX 3:

1. A REMOTE client runs a event tagged as an RPC.
2. The REMOTE client automaticity notifies the AUTH client that an RPC was ran. This is how you send info REMOTE->AUTH

[digital glacier]

think im starting to get it, thank you

[jovial steeple]

When I say, REMOTE client or AUTH client, I mean the actual net role of the connection (Is the connection literally the server or not). Not the net role of the specific actor, which can change like ColdSummer pointed out earlier.

EX 4:

1. A REMOTE client changes a variable that is tagged as replicated. This variable exists on a actor which has the NetRole Authority.
2. Even though this actor has the NetRole Authority, nothing happens. Nobody else is notified about the new value. This is still a REMOTE client.

I cant remember the actual names of the term that talks about an actors net role vs the games netrole. I think NetRole relates the actors, and NetMode relates to the actual games network status (dedicated server vs listen server)?

Ok yea it looks like it..

enum ENetMode
{
    /** Standalone: a game without networking, with one or more local players. Still considered a server because it has all server functionality. */
    NM_Standalone,

    /** Dedicated server: server with no local players. */
    NM_DedicatedServer,

    /** Listen server: a server that also has a local player who is hosting the game, available to other players on the network. */
    NM_ListenServer,

    /**
     * Network client: client connected to a remote server.
     * Note that every mode less than this value is a kind of server, so checking NetMode < NM_Client is always some variety of server.
     */
    NM_Client,

    NM_MAX,
};```

/** The network role of an actor on a local/remote network context */
UENUM()
enum ENetRole : int
{
    /** No role at all. */
    ROLE_None,
    /** Locally simulated proxy of this actor. */
    ROLE_SimulatedProxy,
    /** Locally autonomous proxy of this actor. */
    ROLE_AutonomousProxy,
    /** Authoritative control over the actor. */
    ROLE_Authority,
    ROLE_MAX,
};```

The HasAuthority node, checks an actors NetRole.

FORCEINLINE_DEBUGGABLE bool AActor::HasAuthority() const
{
    return (GetLocalRole() == ROLE_Authority);
}

Since it checks NetRole, this isn't a perfect indicator of if an actor can replicate variables or not. As support for variable replication is dicated by the games NetMode.

[frosty heron]

It's checking for local role 🐈

[gentle urchin]

Which may not be server

Ah lol i see it specified in there now ^^

[remote meteor]

Spawning actor locally also makes it having authority over it even on clients, just remember that with this, it is only most likely to be true if everything is spawned on server and replicated.

[maiden wadi]

Playing ESO makes me want to redo my attribute bar code to make the text display a setting. 🤔

[frosty heron]

Soo many things to learn and use

I might regret not getting into common ui, modular gameplay, fast serilization etc.

But will deffinitly refactor my savegame

[maiden wadi]

Modular gameplay is nice, but mostly just a stepping stone to Lyra's modularity. It's good for large and branching projects. But not always necessary for a lot of projects.

CommonUI, I personally wouldn't live without anymore. Gamepads aside, the rest of it's perks are too good to pass up, specially when you mix it with CommonGame stuff for the pushing menus to screen from anywhere without linkers, or needing to keep refs to them in something like HUD.

[gentle urchin]

ESO?

Eternal Space Odyssey?

[dry sleet]

Elder Scrolls Online

[dry sleet]

(Escargot Supreme Omelette)

[granite frost]

I want to change the point of axis of rotation/pivot of a mesh within a blueprint. How can I do that? So instead of rotating from middle. It rotates from one end

[frosty heron]

can you post a picture to visualize what you want?

write a test case and expected result

"combine the array numbers in the order they were set into a single 4 digit integer"
not sure I understand this. Just write a test case and expected output.

you can use for loop

the easier way is to just convert them to string and back

or you can multiply it and add if you want

wouldn't matter either way

you are not processing a big data

the last index would be the last index of the array

you can probably do this in a function

i'm bad at math

first index is the starting index, so 0

last index is the last index of the array

you want to loop through the entire array

probably can just do for each loop

instead of for loop

[crimson geyser]

Does anyone know why this Neighbor Offsets For Each Loop only loops once while I got 6 Array elements by default?

[jovial steeple]

Local Intiger TotalValue = 0;
Local Intiger AmountOfDigits = ArraySize;

ForEach (CurrentDigit in EnteredDigits)
{
    TotalValue = TotalValue+ (10^(AmountOfDigits - 1 - Index) * CurrentDigit);
}

return TotalValue;

I think this is the math.

This is just pseudo code for a function, hopefully you can translate it into bp.

I can if you really need

AmountOfDigits - 1 - Index

4 - 1 - 0 = 3

10 to the power of 3 is 1000

[shy matrix]

I'd save myself some headache and just append string then convert to int on complete

[main lake]

no math needed, create a local variable of type string, when your array has 4 elements, make a loop and append to that string local variable your element at index i, then use that string variable to do whatever you need to do 🙂

does it work ? 🤔

[frosty heron]

What is this for anyway, a pass code?

If you never need to do any math with it, just turn the variable to a string

Or just use an array of integer..

An array of integer will do.

You have a single int variable

Why do you have to combine them?

Why can't they just be a 4 digit single number?

Also you can just combine them to a string. Bypass all the math all together.

[dark drum]

So you want all the ints in the array to be converts into a string/text in the order they're in, in the array?

No, the return value on the array add node is the index the int was added, not the int itself.

[gentle urchin]

Id rather do the math than rely on string conversions personally

[gentle urchin]

Why this is stored in an array in the first place is beyond me ofc

What happens when entry 2 has 11 in it

[frosty heron]

I was thingking of a passcode machine where you can only enter 0 , 1 , 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,8, 9

can't tell if that's what OP wants though

[gentle urchin]

Id do the math preemtively

And not have the array

As in do the math on the input

Add the value directly to the final value ?

Unless amount of inputs can differ from combination amount

Eg 6 inputs on a 4 digit code..

At that point you know it failed anyways

So the math doesnt matter

[dark drum]

This issue with this is there could be multiple ways to get the same value meaning there could be different ways to get the same result which probably isn't desired.

[gentle urchin]

There would only be one way to get a given value

If this is a combination lock thing

[dark drum]

3 + 4 and 4 + 3 would give the same result but the order is different.

[gentle urchin]

It wouldnt

First digit is 4th integer place in a 4 digit code

So it has a different value

4000 vs 400

[dark drum]

Ohh, I get what you mean. So pre multiply then add to the final result.

[gentle urchin]

Yepp

[dark drum]

This would work as well based on Squize's suggestion.

[gentle urchin]

I would track it like "CurrentDigit" which would start at the total amount of digits in the solution

NewInput -> if CurrentDigit > 0 -> CalcValue(InputDigit) -> CurrentDigit--

[dark drum]

You could but that would add an extra step to calculate the exponent needed for the power node.

The the digit to add. It's an input on the function the logic is setup inside.

I just had it randomally add a digit for testing.

If you're using 5.5, this symbol means it's a function input var. 🙂 I'm so glad they added these. There's one for local vars too.

[gentle urchin]

But yiud have a quick out for chevking if the code can even be in the realm of correct

[dark drum]

You can go a step further and make a function for getting the number of digits in the passcode.

[gentle urchin]

Neat!

This works even if you have a change of heart (or dif#iculty)

[dark drum]

Not really but for the sake of a few extra nodes, it means if you change you're mind, you just change the passcode and it'll work out the rest.

I feel like we could get rid of the digit counter though. 🤔

An alternate version without the digit counter.

That looks like an issue with UE's input conversion thing. (That allows int inputs to be converts to floats and vis versa) Try disconnecting, recompile and try again.

if that doesn't work, you can manually convert the return float on the power not to an Int and connect that instead.

[severe pollen]

I thought that it is generally bad practice to reference your custom classes in a function library since this creates references to the custom class in every blueprint. Is that correct? And if so, is it also bad practice to set any input/output of functions to a custom class in a BP Interface?

[dark drum]

It's not advised as anything that (as you mentioned) uses either the function library or interface will load said classes. Bases classes that would most likely be loaded will probably be fine though.

[hardy elk]

Is it just me that thinks when you learn a lot in unreal you don't need much to make games so someone can do unreal for 10 years he knows blueprints everything can he then leave work for himself or there's more to it than that

Will learning unreal make me a game developer

[dark drum]

Making a game is what makes you a game developer. What tool you use to make said game doesn't matter. 🙂

[hardy elk]

Oh okay 😃

[trim matrix]

if you are making game, in any engine, you can acomplish this bro

[dark drum]

I've just realized, this wouldn't work with 0. o.O

Use the to Text node.

[severe pollen]

Good to know this will always load the classes. Does it also introduce circular reference quicker? I got issue with this in older versions of the engine but i am not sure it is still that big of an issue

[dark drum]

I'm not sure to be honest as I've never had any issues with circular dependencies. (I can only assume I don't tend to make them myself lol)

As an FYI, I've just realized that this method won't work with passcodes with 0's. So if you wanted a passcode of '0024' for example, it wouldn't work. If you're wanting this, you might have to use the array version to keep the digits separate.

[severe pollen]

Okay apparently it still exists in UE5 but measures have been taken against it to make it less likely. https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/is-circular-reference-dependency-still-a-problem-in-blueprint/1338618

[gentle urchin]

0 is just 0

Add nothibg but shift current integer

[dark drum]

Easier to just use the array version at this point, but yea.

[narrow sentinel]

Anyone remeber where the tick box is to allow physical mats to be returned through trace hit results ???

If i remeber right it's unticked by defualt

[gentle urchin]

Proper vs improper 😆

If input == 0 -> CurrentInteger--

[hardy elk]

What's the best way to do 3d assets

[frosty heron]

Such a broad question.

Maybe you want to start from looking at what DDC to use.

Then look for modelling technique. (Polygonal or box modeling)

Then work your way forward.

[narrow sentinel]

out of interest where would you do this, You have a UObject GlobalAudioManager would you construct this within the GameInstance so it runs through regardless what happens with the game or on the game mode so specifc one is loading along with Game Mode that loads with the level ?

[wide beacon]

hiya im really struggling getting this plank to this bp, i need it so i can toggle the visbilty onvce the left plank has been picked up

[lost hemlock]

So what ? When did I say my goal is to re-invent the wheel? This is just a base architecture, for a starters this is exactly why I didn't close down to any idea yet because I dont wanna limit my choices later on in what I wanna create. That would give me soooo many creative limitations. But first the only thing im trying to focus on is the base architecture, meaning a working blueprint inventory, crafting, building, farming systems that work, then I can turn it into anything I want. Which is why I tried to make it as generic as possible <--- this is by the way the advice that my unreal engine friends also gave me when starting out and had a lot of ideas. Because If I close down early on on any of these ideas I would really limit myself forward..

These are the hardest things inside of Unreal for me which is why I tried to get into them and learn the hard things head on. And I started game development around 5 months ago without any developer background or experience what so ever.

[frosty heron]

the comment was directed to the statement that "stranded deep" inventory is innovative.

[lost hemlock]

When did I or anyone say "stranded deep" inventory was innovative? Or that my goal is to make a game which inventory is innovative?

[pulsar osprey]

tbh it might need to be innovative or special if it's 90 percent of the game

[lost hemlock]

oh I see what you mean
well I don't know if it's gonna be 90 percent of the game, it's just an idea so far, but it's a good suggestion

[lime crow]

Hi all, im trying to create a hud, it shows on screen fine, but when i bind it in the designer it disapears from the viewport, i run over a weapon and it still dosent update. I think is it maybe somthing simple im missing?

[lost hemlock]

Im just trying different things, im not sure how the game is really gonna pan out, but Im not trying to really limit myself in terms of ideas because once I commit to some specific genre then I really have to give up all other things that I wanna do with it, 😄

[pulsar osprey]

it's when the actual hard game design begins 🙃

[gentle urchin]

Thats when new projects begins

😆

[frosty heron]

new project means new inventory system

because you will find better ways

[pulsar osprey]

sad truth

[gentle urchin]

And new crafting system

And new UI

New framework

[lost hemlock]

exactly 😂 and it hurts 😭 because the more you go on the more you have to commit to certain ideas and give up so many other incompatible ideas, it's very hurtful, and the more and more goes on it gets even harder

[gentle urchin]

New core plugin

[pulsar osprey]

at some point you just gotta make enough dogslop that it hits critical mass and resembles a gams

then you can polish whats needed

much like student loans, technical debt means nothing if you never have to pay it off

[lost hemlock]

at this point im just trying out everything, see what works, or what's easier. Kinda like making abstract art on a paper, and if this doodle ends up looking like a horse then im committing to drawing a horse.

Or say if I accidentally make a horse look like it's sleeping <---- then i pretend it's a sleeping horse, or if it looks like it's a running horse, then guess what, it's a running horse, it's not a bug it's a feature

for example I didn't know how to figure out the slot transfer system in the inventory

[pulsar osprey]

from experience, that's a easy way to waste a lot of paper on poorly drawn horses

[lost hemlock]

so I ended up just removing the whole function all together and decided, hey is it really that important in this case to be able to move around these slots?

so I just made it an inventory display system

[lost hemlock]

true

[languid hemlock]

Hello!
I am working on a Save and Load system for my inventory. When the server runs the Load function, it updates the "items" array for all players. Then server sends an RPC to the clients right after the update to make them update their widgets. However, sometimes the RPC is executed before the array is fully updated on the client side. How can I ensure the array is updated before the RPC is processed? Is there a better approach to handle this?

[pulsar osprey]

make the array a replicated property and call the update function in an OnRep

[languid hemlock]

but I also modify this array frequently except when I load it, so it doesn't only change during load. Doesn't this mean that the RepNotify event will run many times?

[pulsar osprey]

property replication is only considered at the end of a frame. so if you edit it 5 separate times in one update, it'll only replicate the new array once

thus only calling the onrep once

[lost hemlock]

I did make doodles but through all this non-sense create, remove, create, change mind, remove, create, remove, change my mind, create etc. I also learned how to use blueprint code. For example before committing to this inventory,crafting,thing, I barely even knew how widgets work<---- I learned how widgets work like around a month ago lol

[lost hemlock]

👍

[pulsar osprey]

actually unsure if that's how it works for a purely bp property. cpp and bp OnRep behaves differently

but I'd give it a go and just see how many times it executes

[frosty heron]

Why do you need server to send rpc to update client widget?

[languid hemlock]

Actually I didn't mean that. For example, when the player moves an item in their inventory, the RepNotify event will run, because the items array will be updated. Widget update event should only run after Load.

[frosty heron]

ClientOnRep-> Broadcast Array updated

and any listening object including widget can do their respective task

[languid hemlock]

I didnt use RepNotify in my system. Generally, clients send a request to the server, the server does the necessary calculations and sends a request to the client to reflect it on the widget. Is this the wrong way?
I don't want to use array repnotify for widget updates because I can't get the information of what has changed in the array, so I need to loop the whole array again and do widget update for each element.

[gentle urchin]

Include the index in there ans you're golden

RepNotify is the way. RPC is not

generally speaking

Statefull things should be RepNotify

RPCs might be missed for various relevancy reasons

[gentle urchin]

In c++ you can figure out what changed

[languid hemlock]

But if I use Repnotify, it will run when I move/drop/transfer/use/add/remove the item. I have to for loop all items array again and update all widgets. Isn't this a bad way?

[gentle urchin]

Annoying that that's not the case in bp... ...

[gentle urchin]

Even if, its still stateful, and important that it remains correct

[pulsar osprey]

also tbh unless you're updating hundreds of widgets id be surprised if the performance hit is meaningful

worst case would always be updating all widgets regardless of solution

[frosty heron]

what's wrong with looping through item array. You do have to do that anwyay. One way or another.

[oak hedge]

Hey guys, how do I make a static class in BP ? I'm trying to have a simple 'world debug screen' that any other class could print a string into without having to get its reference but somehow there's little resource online. Is it only possible in cpp ?

[pulsar osprey]

if you need state, subsystem. if you just need static functions, BP function library

subsystems require some c++ iirc

[frosty heron]

it does

[oak hedge]

What's state ?

[pulsar osprey]

like storing a value

like if you want to count the number of times the debug call is made.

[oak hedge]

It isn't what I'm looking for but I'll that in mind

[languid hemlock]

I may have hundreds of items in my inventory. So I'm hesitant to do that. I'm making a Tarkov-like inventory system where there's no limit to how many items you can have in your inventory.
But if it's the only way, I'll look into it. Thanks.

[frosty heron]

avoiding rep notify sounds insane as f

i would be suprised if you can have a working mp at all

If you are going to have a large item, look into fast array

but that's CPP

[pulsar osprey]

^^

[frosty heron]

bp multiplayer is limited so, better know your limit

[languid hemlock]

I'm not avoiding RepNotify, I'm avoiding updating the other 100 items with every item update. But I'm probably wrong. I will research more about this

[gentle urchin]

Some c++ solves this neatly 😄

[pulsar osprey]

if you have many slots but not many items, you're probably better off replicating an array of just the items with their positions.
in c++, you could diff the array every replication and only update the widgets that get changed. i believe this is impossible in bp

[dark drum]

From my understanding, you'd need to replicate all the items to begin with anyway. After that it'll just be the items that are modified.

[gentle urchin]

You can locally keep a copy of the array thon

And thus do a delta compare and trigger delegate with index that changed

[pulsar osprey]

durrr yeah you def can I am narrow minded

[gentle urchin]

While you still end up looping, you dont have to update all the unchanged widgets

[dark drum]

Yea, it's probably desirable to reduce network traffic for those that spam open/close their inventory.

[gentle urchin]

Heck even the slotnitself can track what it last displayed

The slot index doesnt really change, only its content

So it can do a delta check

Does itemid differ? Update everything...

Else..
Did amount change? Update amount

[pulsar osprey]

though if you really want it to be like tarkov, make it take up as much network traffic and CPU cycles as possible 😃

[languid hemlock]

It's very hard not to do that

[gentle urchin]

For the longest time i cleared all the inventory slot widgets and remade themb

Was pretty noticable

Both visually and framespikes

[dark drum]

I still do. 👀 (initial setup of course lol)

[gentle urchin]

(Thats the thing i guess, i stayed with initial setup untill i abandoned it for a new project 😂😂)

[dark drum]

I'm actually working on something that has different slots that need displaying. Doing it properly this time. (my 3rd iteration that I'm actually happy with)

[gentle urchin]

Still working on that 3rd edition quest system

[dark drum]

Hows it going? Have you made much progress?

[gentle urchin]

Lets talk about the weather instead

[dark drum]

Oh dear. lol

I need to do some more work on my version X of the quest system idea I had. Not needed for my current project though so it's been tossed to the bottom of the pile.

[narrow sentinel]

so what would make sense more, the In game menu widget be created and refed on the game instance or on the game mode ??

just thinking cause the game mode would only be their for when in the game like not main menu

as I'd have a specific Game Mode for when in Main menu

[frosty heron]

Not sure why game instance would come to this

game mode is fine imo

I have a game mode lobby

[narrow sentinel]

cause game instance is their from start to end of the duration game is well loaded

[dark drum]

I tend to have it spawned and created from the Player Controller. I wouldn't normally store a ref too it though as you wouldn't normally need to do anything to the in game menu unless you're in it.

[narrow sentinel]

well it's cause my options stuff in within the menu it's not seperate

[frosty heron]

ok? why should that spawn your main menu

[narrow sentinel]

it doesn't, I would have a main menu version and then an in game menu version. this is so visual and logic differences can happen and be done

[dark drum]

Options data shouldn't be stored in a widget. They should be stored somewhere else and the widget fetches the data to display it.

[narrow sentinel]

thats what I'm doing, but I still need to find a suitable place to spawn the widget so it's there and can be made visible or non visible depending when player wants it

[dark drum]

I have a widget stack manager on the HUD class that allows me to push and pull common ui widgets so I can do it from anywhere. Because they're activatable widgets I don't have to worry about it. Just push when I want it visible and deactivate when I don't. If the previous widget is still valid the widget stack will just display it again.

[narrow sentinel]

hmmm

[dark drum]

You have to remember that widgets can take up a lot of memory after all the various images are loaded so it can be good to not keep the around if you don't have to. (granted this is dependent on what images you're using an how many)

[narrow sentinel]

even if it's collapsed ?

what if I created it and removed and added it to viewport when needed would that still take up a lot of memory ?

[lime crow]

im trying to get the display name for a hud weapon, it should work because i have made a bind direct to the base gun class, and done a check to see if the player has a weapon. nothing is updating though

[dark drum]

Yes, collapsing just means it's not included in the layout pass so can be good for performance as it can skip it. The elements themselves would still be loaded though, ready for that moment you make them visible.

[narrow sentinel]

what about removing and adding to viewport

[dark drum]

If you remove it from the viewport, the widget will stay loaded if it's referenced anywhere. When it's not referenced, it can be garbage collected.

[narrow sentinel]

I think I might have the HUD spawn it actually just thinking cause I'd need to take in stuff from the widget to pass elsewhere and I feel HUD might be better place to do that

stuff like when audio slider is moved I'll need to pass new value back to where it needs to go so it can be saved etc and same other way round so getting the values

but then again if I do it on the HUD will it be initlised early enough

hmm actually HUD may be too late in the flow to init the Menu widget

well in game menu widget

[gentle urchin]

My instanced struct idea seeeeeem to be q good track tho!

[dark drum]

Good to know. I have mixed feeling with instanced structures. I just wish you could create instanced structs as an input without first having to use the make instance structure node.

[gentle urchin]

Cant you?

[dark drum]

I am currently using them for my interaction system in the current project I'm using. Most of the interactions are the same type of thing so opted to give instanced structs a try. Seems to work pretty well. I specify the interaction object I want to run when the player interacts and then pass the payload which is an instanced struct array.

[gentle urchin]

I didnt actually test the incoming struct, but was able to plug it directly atleast

[narrow sentinel]

@dark drum how would you do the widget init stuff if I created and destroyed it when I needed it and didn't ? Would you have widget call local functions on construction to grab the data or have the think creating the widget auto pass it through the details through a init function ??

[dark drum]

Yea, you can do this, but not ideal if you want an array of them. (ignore that this calls itself)

[dark drum]

Yea, on construction, I'd have the widget fetch the data it needs and update accordingly.

[narrow sentinel]

fairs

[gentle urchin]

Nono, i.made a vector struct that i passed inn

Which i hesr now makes no sense buut i did 🤣

[dark drum]

Can you show me an example? I'm not sure what you mean lol.

[gentle urchin]

on it

ugh

slowest 11 ever

Hmmmm weird, i was sure it was working 🥲

[dark drum]

I hate when that happens. Nothing worse when you think, 'I'll quickly load this old project to see how I did X' 30 minutes later. 🙄

[gentle urchin]

But you were right, it didnt workn

Without make instance

Atlesst not with my current setup

[dark drum]

I couldn't figure out how to do it without it. It's the only thing I don't like about using them. Granted, using them as vars works well though.

[gentle urchin]

Alternative would be some uobject thing but feels just ss troublesome

Third option would be a functiom for every base type

But thats also messy

[narrow sentinel]

so got a question if I have a Map and I need to set a specific value within it what best way to do it ??

[gentle urchin]

Add

Replaces existing value

[maiden wadi]

I had a crash course in Instanced Structs recently. I found them incredibly annoying to use in BP. The non pure helpers are kind of annoying. They make pure nodes out of shit returning arrays, and non pure nodes out of things that should be... But even past that, instanced structs don't currently support bundling. :/ Which is a massive downside.

IMO I wouldn't use them as anything more than a wildcard in something like a messenger at runtime.

[gentle urchin]

Thats what i need tho

A wildcard

As an input for updating/checking/probing the quest system

Atleast ... that was the idea

Thinking about it now...

Location quest would just get the owning pawn and use that

No need to feed it into the quest system directly

So i actually just need a new tasktype

Im on a quest to make my questsystem flexible

Capable of doing any quest

[maiden wadi]

What I mean is that I wouldn't put them in any form of static data like a data asset.

[gentle urchin]

Without me defining strict rules for what exactly that means

[maiden wadi]

If you're using data assets and you need a wildcard for data, you can always use instanced objects.

[gentle urchin]

Wouldnt that too be cumbersome to work with?

[maiden wadi]

How so?

[gentle urchin]

Create uobject of type -> set value?

Or is there a neat trick i dont know about? 😄

[gaunt stirrup]

any way to get this smoking animation from fab on my metahuman? its facing down as well

[dark drum]

does anyone know if there's a place to see all enums in UE and what the values are?

[maiden wadi]

Instanced objects work identical to instanced structs in this regard. If you have a property of one on the class and you populate it in the class, that object is automatically created along with the class and the instance. Can be somewhat useful for runtime stuff, but much more useful for static data in data asset.

For instance, take this code....

UCLASS(Blueprintable, DefaultToInstanced, EditInlineNew)
class USomeSubobject : public UObject
{
    GENERATED_BODY()
public:

    UPROPERTY(BlueprintReadWrite, EditAnywhere)
    int32 SomeIntegerThing = 32;
    UPROPERTY(BlueprintReadWrite, EditAnywhere)
    float SomeFloatThing = 33.f;
};

UCLASS()
class HOMESTEADGAMEPLAY_API USomeDataAsset : public UDataAsset
{
    GENERATED_BODY()
public:
    
    UPROPERTY(BlueprintReadOnly, EditDefaultsOnly)
    TObjectPtr<USomeSubobject> SomeSubobject = nullptr;
    UPROPERTY(BlueprintReadOnly, EditDefaultsOnly)
    TArray<TObjectPtr<USomeSubobject>> SomeSubobjects;
};```

This is a data asset with a default object and an array of default subobjects, you can do it either way. They're instanced because of the object's specifier, DefaultToInstanced. You can also explicitly mark the pointer instanced too if you want.

In a data asset, you can populate these same as an instanced struct.

I created a BP version of the subobject for example.

Has a new boolean in it.

[gentle urchin]

Ah yeah this is cool, im using this all over my quest setup

My wildcard was intended to be an input to the questsystem

Another alternative i can think of, if im sticking to a function call with wildcard input, is a custom union struct, with static functions for serializing typical data types, and deserialize once inside the QuestTask with another set of functions

So whats actually passed in is a custom struct that basically is just an array of bytes

[wide beacon]

Hello, ive been struggling all day trying to set a variable for a simnple task, ive been here for 2 days now could someone please help me. my project is due in less than a week i dont have time for this!!!

[dark drum]

Click where it says 'Branch' and show a screenshot of where it takes you.

[dark drum]

So the issue is that where this logic is, it doesn't know which 'plank' instance it should be using. Where do you set the ref to 'plank'?

[wide beacon]

in this one

[maiden wadi]

If Plank is null, and you set Plank from Plank, Plank is still null.

[wide beacon]

how do i go about setting it, this has caused way too much frustration

[maiden wadi]

I strongly recommend the BP communication video in the pins. It's a couple of hours that will make things like this a bit more clear.

[wide beacon]

okay ill have a look at that but, is there a way of doing this for now? i dont really have time to be watching relly long videos atm. thanks

[maiden wadi]

Unsure. Your logic is confusing. I'm unsure why the class Plank has a variable named Plank, that points to an instance of Plank. Why does one plank need to know about another plank?

The interface implies you intend to pick up a plank. But you're having plank pick up another plank. So I'm not sure what the intention here is. Do planks hold other planks somehow?

[wide beacon]

no, im trying to pick up the plank, which i want to "go into my inventory" which isn't a thing as its a simple point click adventure, si im just trying to destroy the actor and when the rapids is clicked it un hides the other plank on the rapids bp

[maiden wadi]

So one plank needs to know about another plank to unhide it?

[wide beacon]

yes

i really cant get it working

[maiden wadi]

Is the level hand made? Like you've preplaced planks in it?

[wide beacon]

so one plank is a blueprint, the other plank is just a mesh on top of the rapids that is hidden

[maiden wadi]

But is the level hand made with preplaced planks?

[wide beacon]

yes

well the blueprints are in the level if thats waht you mean

[maiden wadi]

Then you'd probably want to make Plank in the blueprint Instanced Editable(which you've already done). Delete your beginplay. Then you need to click on the first plank in the level and look at the Details panel where you can see the Plank variable.

You can then pick the next plank from a dropdown or with the dropper.

I'm assuming you've done these already since that is instance editable, or no?

[wide beacon]

i havent tried that, but i have the plank on the rapids hidden in game, so i can toggle the visbilty once the other plank has been picked up

[maiden wadi]

What does the interface do? Because i'm not sure it's necessary here.

You can simplify some of your stuff a bit.

[wide beacon]

i thought i need an interface to communicate between the blueprints

[maiden wadi]

Not really. In fact in my personal opinion an interface is one of the very last tools you should consider for it. You can cast generic references, or get a component from a generic reference. In your case everything is happening through this one class Plank here. So there's not even any need for casting or interfaces. You already have a casted reference set from the instance editable property.

[wide beacon]

oh okay thank you, that makes more sense. im going to try this now. thank you for your help!

[maiden wadi]

Hope it works out. 😄

[dark drum]

Personally I would say that until you understand more about how UE works and hierarchy, I would pretend they don't exist. 😅 Save you misusing them.

[wide beacon]

how do you make the green function, mine appears to be blue

[dark drum]

Make it a pure node in the details panel.

[wide beacon]

thank youi

[wide beacon]

it ahsnt worked out for me, been here still trying to get it to work

[frail oar]

Hello. I would like to author a conditions system where I can define a blueprint that has a function called "Condition" that returns true or false, then have subclasses of that object that can do "and" and "or" and stuff, and importantly author these entirely in a data table without having to make separate assets for them. is this possible?

[gentle urchin]

Some c++ and instanced uobjects would probably get you there

[frail oar]

hmm. last i tried i was unable to add a uobject to a data table

[gentle urchin]

Instanced ones should work fine

[frail oar]

oh that's good. what does instanced mean in this case

a UCLASS property or?

[gentle urchin]

Altho And/or easily gets complicated with ordering etc

Yesh its a uclass property

EditInlineNew is the marker if im not mistaken

[frail oar]

sorry i know a lot of C++ just not a lot of UE C++ 😅

[gentle urchin]

Havnt specifically tried it in a DT but cant see why it shouldnt work

Erh i think the uproperty must be set to Instanced

Let me check real quick

#blueprint message

[frail oar]

yea i tried another editinlinenew in my data table and wasn't able to get it to appear in the data table properties

[gentle urchin]

Really?

Weird if thats the case imo

[frail oar]

haven't tried that hard. let me see what i can cook up. so i need both DefaultToInstanced and EditInlineNew maybe?

[gentle urchin]

I think i marked the property instanced but they should do the same if inunderstood Authaer correcrly

Hmm if youd nest the condition with the and/or it could prob work

[frail oar]

which config is the one that runs when i double click the project file? so i dont have to build them all

"Development Editor" ?

[gentle urchin]

good question

i never recall xD

run from IDE anyways

[frail oar]

oh yea F5 true

hmm yea it does not appear in the data table

funny that it has a column but not a row in the row editor

[gentle urchin]

testing

well if all else fails, they definetly work in data assets 😄

[frail oar]

yea i was thinking that

in the meantime i'm trying a c++ struct instead of a blueprint struct so i can try the editinline specifier there

[gentle urchin]

thats what im testing aswell

[mortal coral]

is there a way to dynamically declare a new blueprint class at runtime?

[gentle urchin]

no dice

[frail oar]

dang

[gentle urchin]

Data Asset next ?

[frail oar]

yea i've never done those before so i was trying to avoid it 🥲

[gentle urchin]

they work splendid for nested stuff like this atleast

quest/task/condition are all instanced uobjects

Not extremely readable atm but with some meta specifiers this could be cleaned a tad

[frail oar]

i'll have to change my blueprint data table to a code data asset?

[gentle urchin]

If you want this sort of thing, yes

[surreal peak]

Gut feeling would say no

[gentle urchin]

Wouldnt expect it to be possible from blueprints

[dawn gazelle]

Construct Object "Blueprint".... But then how do you set up any properties within it? And then actually use it?

[gentle urchin]

this didnt get pretty 😄

[frail oar]

lol

my problem is i have a bunch of existing data tables that are from blueprint structs that reference other blueprint enumerations and structs and i would have to move everything to C++

[gentle urchin]

That is an advice i'd give you regardless of this

any structs should be declared in c++

bp structs bring some corruption risk with it

and it can get really nasty

[frail oar]

yea i've been careful but it's still been weird

[gentle urchin]

plenty of people have had crazy experiences with it , and some get along with it just fine

not a risk i would take ^^

[frail oar]

is there a better versioning situation when it's in C++

as in, when i load a save game that is a struct and it has V1 on the disk and i can convert it to V2 so i can load old save game formats, for example

[gentle urchin]

You got more options for converting them afaik

[surreal peak]

Also feels like a chicken egg situation cause who's gonna compile that BP and execute it

Some VM weaving lol

[pliant fossil]

So Using "get overlapping actors", I was really confused because sometimes it was getting the actors and sometimes it wasn't. Well I came to realize something.
Actor i'm wanting get overlapping actors - 'Box Detect'
Actor i'm wanting to get detected - 'Jeff'
If I make changes to 'Jeff' then it will stop detecting him, I then have to delete 'Box Detect' in the level and put down a new one in order for it to detect it. Any idea why?

[fiery swallow]

I think the closest you can get to that would be changing blueprint property values using the editor utility blueprint, and that only just recently got added. Probably not helpful information at all though 🤣

[sick sky]

you could set a flag on your struct, and have a manual convert function, and select it depending on the flag on both structs, like V1 to V2 or V1 to latest

[frail oar]

What kind of flag do you mean?

[dark drum]

Ai that can write, compile and run itself. O.o

[sacred canyon]

man, this looks perfect... anyone heard of anything like that for unreal https://youtu.be/JiLEkc4G_F0

or rather, any idea at all of how to start programming it

I dont even really know how to ask this in the first place

but heres the one I set up manually myself, and as you can see it doesnt work for 1x1s because it doesnt have every possible sprite made for that. and even if I did make all of those, theres no way in hell I could get the logic working on top of everything else already

[frosty heron]

@sacred canyon I don't know what's the video about but if you want to generate dungeons you can look at wave function collapse.

[sick sky]

A hidden int32 id or key

[sacred canyon]

its tilesets

not dungeon generation

[frosty heron]

@sacred canyon are you doing 2D? If you are why are you using unreal? 2D support is non existence / abandoned.

[sacred canyon]

oh my god

someones always gotta ask that

[frosty heron]

Yeah you will get that a lot if you are giving impression that you are doing 2d with unreal in blueprint.

[sacred canyon]

there are plenty of reasons to use unreal for 2d games

[frosty heron]

There are plenty of reasons to not use unreal for 2d games

But you do you

[sacred canyon]

yeah Im 3 years into this project and have only ever used exclusively unreal so thats not gonna change any time soon

[frosty heron]

My condolonces

Not saying it's not impossible. Ofc it's doable

Just not the best tool for the job

[sacred canyon]

I know, this is one of the many setbacks its given me

[gentle urchin]

Yeah the tilesets are rough imo

[uncut shale]

im curious if there is a better way of handling this?

I want to play an animation and then once its done, move on to the next animation

[gentle urchin]

Isnt there some delegate? OnAnimationComplete or BlendPut or smth?

[uncut shale]

I couldnt find anything similar to those phrases in the BP menu

[gentle urchin]

Might need to hook into the animInstance

If these are ment to play in order, couldnt they just be combinednin a single montage ?

[frosty heron]

if you are doing a combo, this is not the way

[frail oar]

make a montage and add an event at the end of the montage and listen for the event

[frosty heron]

also using play animation means you aer giving up your anim blueprint

[frail oar]

or just use the play montage blueprint node, which has an OnCompleted output

[frosty heron]

not post process, no physics, no Ik, yada2

just a pure raw playing anim

[uncut shale]

its a combo system that you would chain moves together, not really a set combo

[frosty heron]

then this is not the way, regardless

[uncut shale]

move 1 (H,M,L)> move 2 (H,M,L) is how I plan on having the combos. Most games have a combo system where each move is different

its hard to explain without examples

[frosty heron]

what is H M L?

high medium, low?

[uncut shale]

yeah

[frosty heron]

You want to look into input buffer

[uncut shale]

like DMC has single moves that you chain together

[frosty heron]

though the concep[t is simple

[uncut shale]

thats a different function

[frosty heron]

you store inputs within a window

what function?

[uncut shale]

this is literally just putting out the animations

[uncut shale]

theres a specific function that stores the next move

[frosty heron]

store inputs within a given window, have any logic you want

play the animation when your buffer is closed

simmiliar to tekken

or whutering waves

[uncut shale]

btw wdym by "window"?

[frosty heron]

means time

like in tekken you can do left down right arrow key, followed by a punch

[uncut shale]

oh yeah

[frosty heron]

the user are given a window to enter the inputs

When the window is open you can store the inputs, then you proccess it when the window is closed

[uncut shale]

this is pretty different to a standard fighting game

[frosty heron]

how "different"?

[uncut shale]

well its more of a turn based game

this is 1 of the combat systems

you input a combo, then the enemy does. During the enemy turn, you have to figure out how to parry their combo

[frosty heron]

putting the logic aside, start impriving your code by playing montage.

[uncut shale]

yeah, someone else suggested that on another server

[frosty heron]

and someone else did a few seconds ago

[autumn pulsar]

If I have actor components, is it better to use an interface to interact with them or access it directly?

[frosty heron]

refactor that first imo.

[autumn pulsar]

was reading through a marketplace addon's Blueprints and they use interfaces

[frosty heron]

don't use interface like that

damn that's horirble