game-jam-chat

[velvet echo]

sure, i could always use advice

[tough birch]

@velvet echo MOBAs are just room based

[bitter pier]

^

You have a MMO server. Make full use of it

[velvet echo]

want moba with stats building, need authoritive

[tough birch]

the same foundation that you use for shooter room based games is used for MOBAs and some even use P2P for their own data in the topology

MMO servers are beyond MOBA servers

[bitter pier]

^

True

I am just saying that mobas are a "dead" genre when It comes to inovation

Try and inovate

[proven badge]

so is mmo really

[tough birch]

MOBA servers are made up of a lot of small shards mixed in with a few other servers for services, login, database, overflow, chat etc

[velvet echo]

hehe

[bitter pier]

Like the players can literally be creep for example or Make is statless

[velvet echo]

if MOBA and MMO are dead what is alive?

[tough birch]

@velvet echo mobile games with no real content but IAP

[bitter pier]

^

[velvet echo]

yuk

[bitter pier]

Yep sums up how i feel @velvet echo

[tough birch]

even all the AAA companies have jumped onto them realizing the amount of money you can get from making people play mundane contentless games with addictive features

[proven badge]

story based games

open world games

RPG games

[velvet echo]

it's not about making a MOBA for everyone to play, it is about understanding how to make them

[bitter pier]

ah ok

[tough birch]

@velvet echo go buy multiplayer game programming by joshua glazer and sanjay madhav

thank me later

[bitter pier]

^

Buy it good book

[proven badge]

its not that moba's and mmos are dead. its just that the ones in the market are nearly unbeatable because they had insane headstart and shit loads of conent, developed meta and communities

[tough birch]

its a fantastic book for a lot of people

[velvet echo]

i already made moba creeps and players, and added basic networking, but authoritive server for ue4 that isn't just a headless ue4 seems like something that should be possible

[proven badge]

whereas story games, even MP and SP are still a good money maker

[sharp berry]

Is anyone running here a SVN server?

[tough birch]

@proven badge black desert was a great game until the managment changed direction then i could never play it again

[proven badge]

never even heard of it

[tough birch]

black desert online was the only real innovative mmo in a long time

[proven badge]

so not much of a success even at its peak

[velvet echo]

@sharp berry running SVN at work.

[tough birch]

the rest were derived from WoW like a cpp class is

[sharp berry]

BSO has too many features, I dropped it because of the TOO MUCH IMPULSE

[velvet echo]

because work won't take my advice and switch to git

[tough birch]

@sharp berry did you have the chance to play it? the housing was fantastic, fishing, boats everything felt like we had an upgraded game from the 2000s again

like SWG had returned in a form

people will still opt for WoW though

[sharp berry]

I played it for 3 or 4 hours, I got mental because it told me: check this out, check that out, do this, do that, every 5min or so

[tough birch]

haha yeah it is a bit full on but thats how the asians like it but it becomes really relaxing

[velvet echo]

the number of survival games around that people still play

[tough birch]

its designed for letting you afk 24/7

[bitter pier]

@tough birch - Designed what?

[tough birch]

@velvet echo please no more dayz/minecraft/survival/zombies please god no

[sharp berry]

Why would anyone make a game that you play afk? o0

[velvet echo]

@tough birch i'm not

[bitter pier]

AFK Sim?

[tough birch]

@bitter pier in BDO they want people to go away from keyboard all night and such

[bitter pier]

Oh

[tough birch]

like for instance you can fish afk all night its designed

[bitter pier]

You worked on that?

[sharp berry]

I would love a MMO like Lineage 2 during the 4th expansion or so

[tough birch]

if I did i would be getting chased down by angry fans haha

[bitter pier]

D:

[tough birch]

Star Wars Galaxies was my inspiration for mmos

[bitter pier]

Sounds scary

[tough birch]

for networking

[bitter pier]

@tough birch - Yep I hear you

Galaxies 2 or riot

[tough birch]

then the likes of EQ2 came out, WoW... then the industry died due to copy paste behaviour

[bitter pier]

Yep

[sharp berry]

hmm... Aion xD

[velvet echo]

ewww

[tough birch]

remember people, innovation is not a safe bet, its the best bet

[bitter pier]

^

THAT!

[tough birch]

you can go on making minecraft clones, survival clones, clones of clones but people get bored and it damages the industry and your own business

[bitter pier]

Yep

I just want to make a Rouge Squadron or Crimsion Skies like MMO

Anyway

[tough birch]

to be honest, MMO servers are not that hard, its like making a game, not that hard but getting it right, as one piece with everything working bug checked etc is the hard part

[bitter pier]

@tough birch - Yep

[sharp berry]

I was working on a puzzle game, but after the megajam, I kind of figured: I suck at puzzles..

Now I feel like having a writers block

#killmenowplzkthx

[bitter pier]

Bang

😛

[tough birch]

i could build a basic mmo server within 24 hours but its just like when these careless developers like homocide, suicide whoever they were games brought their games out

[velvet echo]

if your MMO has multiple maps, and you are just running headless UE4, how does it handle this? do you need a server per map?

[tough birch]

quality takes time

[bitter pier]

😛 🔫

[tough birch]

@velvet echo the way i would do it, server per map, multiple servers per map

[sharp berry]

exactly

[bitter pier]

I am so morbid

[tough birch]

depending on the clients bandwidth you can actually slowly queue up data from all servers

[sharp berry]

I'm now waiting for the jam to get something on

[velvet echo]

so you have to switch server to switch map?

[tough birch]

you dont switch the servers map

you connect the client to a new server

if you have played many mmos such as FF11

youll find that at a lower bandwidth it takes time for players to load in

[bitter pier]

There is also Spatial OS. https://improbable.io/

[tough birch]

thats because they'll load based upon their hierarchy

@bitter pier that thing is the future of mmos i swear

[bitter pier]

@tough birch - I know right

It is coming to unreal

So yeah

[tough birch]

are you serious?

[bitter pier]

Yep

[tough birch]

if youre lying to me i will kill you

and everyone you have ever talked to

[bitter pier]

I talk with the devs.

[tough birch]

seen

heard

that is amazing news

[bitter pier]

Check their github

[pine fulcrum]

.

..

[bitter pier]

You might find something

[tough birch]

@pine fulcrum we woke the mythical beast

[bitter pier]

aaaaa

[proven badge]

with your mmo hype

[bitter pier]

HYPE

[tough birch]

spatialOS though, coming to unreal

it's...

its...

unreal

😉

[bitter pier]

https://github.com/improbable-public

there you go

https://github.com/improbable-public/unreal-top-down

ahem

[tough birch]

O.M.G. schoolgirl scream

[bitter pier]

Welcome

[tough birch]

maybe ill get around to developing a large scale multiplayer game after all

[bitter pier]

There is also some other stuff coming

from them

Much larger game worlds for example

[tough birch]

Unauthorized

Unfortunately you do not currently have permission to access SpatialOS.
Please apply for access at improbable.io

nooooo

haha time to apply

[bitter pier]

Yep

I applied have not heard back

yet

I do know the devs tho

anyway

[tough birch]

application sent, ill follow it up with a call to them with the hopes of being able to talk shop and get my application accepted

[bitter pier]

Sounds like a plan

[tough birch]

spatial OS is the future of all server systems, you heard it here people! 😛

[bitter pier]

https://www.reddit.com/r/spatialos

Interesting

[tough birch]

have they released any solid specs of data throughput by any chance

[bitter pier]

@tough birch - I am unsure

[tough birch]

it would be nice to see what they are currently working with

anyone in the procedural generation field will find themselves well sought after once this releases publiclly

[bitter pier]

Yep

I just want to work with that so bad

[tough birch]

@bitter pier ill make you a deal, if any of us get licensed for our company for a dev kit from them, we join each other so we can both play with it

[bitter pier]

@tough birch - Sure

Oh

They plan to release that sample to the Marketplace IIRC

Could be wrong

I would need to check chat

[tough birch]

No server boundaries, millions of persistent creatures or objects, and thousands of players in the same world, sharing the same

i want to check this claim out too

[bitter pier]

Yep same

Eat your heart out UNET 😛

[tough birch]

as well as if its tested the normal way, switching off AI and activity in areas not populated by players

[bitter pier]

@tough birch - They do it differntly

[tough birch]

if it was tested without switching off AI, that would be insanity

@timber dew didn't you say you spent 5 years in procedural generation?

[bitter pier]

All AI is there an active but the each server Is only aware of various bits of the world

That is if I remember properly

[tough birch]

so its basically a huge micro architecture?

[bitter pier]

Yep

[tough birch]

how do they handle the bottleneck from the services into primary server nodes

[bitter pier]

I do not know

[tough birch]

or do they split distrubution nodes up completely

[bitter pier]

They more than likely break it up

into different servers

[tough birch]

i havent had such an exciting talk in such a long time

[bitter pier]

Same

😄

[tough birch]

im not too good at the client side of development yet but server side

[bitter pier]

@tough birch - I am an artist so I might be of use 😉

[tough birch]

@bitter pier remember me when this gets released haha i would work for the rest of my life with spatialOS if i could

or until something better comes along

SpatialOS Quantum!

[bitter pier]

^

Same

Quantum Computers are not far away

Just saying

[tough birch]

they still warp my head, trying to understand the logic of a qbit

its like my partner

she is a qbit

yes no or both

could be any

[bitter pier]

I know google ordered some Quantum Computers

But yeah

NASA too

[tough birch]

i wonder how they will play a role on us lower level programmers

[bitter pier]

Yeah same

[tough birch]

will we get an assembly interface to work with qbits directly

or will they abstract it and let us use a simplified method

[bitter pier]

I think we will be using langs like RUST or whatever

[tough birch]

rust?

[bitter pier]

one sec

https://www.rust-lang.org/en-US/

[tough birch]

ill be telling bjarne about your insane ideas! itll be C++ 201 by then!

[bitter pier]

Made by mozilla

[tough birch]

dapowjnmdpoawnmdmp

this is insane

[bitter pier]

Check out GO lang

[tough birch]

do they have a low level API

[bitter pier]

Made for large concurancy and stuff too

Maintained by google

[tough birch]

this along with spatialOS...

[bitter pier]

Yep

AMAZE BALLS

😛

[tough birch]

threads without data races, no more need for mutexs or atomics

no abstraction

oh they allow C bindings ?

[bitter pier]

Yep

[tough birch]

someone get Epic on the phone

for god sake get them fast

[bitter pier]

Post it in the feedback section

But keep in mind that Rust is still very young

[tough birch]

i do all the time, they dont listen much 😛

Why Rust for Low-level Linux programming?

assuming that they have a standard API for Rust i would guess that if one is available for Linux then we should expect one already existing that allows low level Windows functionality

or one TBC

[bitter pier]

I think that Spatail OS is written in Scala?

But not sure

More a hunch really

[tough birch]

hmmm

Rust programming languages give both low level capabilities and high level

[bitter pier]

http://www.scala-lang.org/

[tough birch]

I would love to see some of these newer languages mature and be introduced to engines such as unreal

[bitter pier]

Yep same

[tough birch]

i wonder how they will change the development pipeline

[bitter pier]

https://storage.googleapis.com/improbable-static/spatialos.improbable.io/spatialos-engineers-640x500.mp4

Check that

Grabbed it from their website

[tough birch]

I've already gawked at that

its so beautiful

[bitter pier]

Yep

It is

Speaking of which

[tough birch]

the best thing about spatialOS is not just its sheer load capability

but finally we could get some good networking physics

[bitter pier]

@tough birch - https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?85084-The-Eden-Project

Page 2 is where it gets interesting

[tough birch]

what is this black magic

[pine fulcrum]

Yall crazy

[bitter pier]

@pine fulcrum - I know right

It takes a bit of crazy to make a MMO

[tough birch]

@pine fulcrum crazy enough for it to work brother

it could be worse "hey everyone im new how to make an mmo in unreal what languages should i learn? ive done hello world in visual basic before"

[pine fulcrum]

Also, #game-jam-chat

[bitter pier]

This is true

[tough birch]

sorry we have been spamming gamejams with irrelevant and interesting conversation we should be in #multiplayer

[pine fulcrum]

#ue-mmo

[proven badge]

Oh boiki

[tough birch]

@pine fulcrum we need that channel 😛

but invite only, requires a test prior to acceptance

[bitter pier]

^

wait

😛

[tough birch]

itll avoid the day 1 programmer from jumping into the fray

[pine fulcrum]

Aye, make it super private

[bitter pier]

I will poke someone about it

[tough birch]

oh please do 😛

[bitter pier]

@tough birch - DOne

Posted it in The suggestion box too

[tardy thicket]

d

[tepid light]

https://github.com/blog/2274-game-off-theme-announcement

Month long gamejam hosted by github has started

[rigid fog]

hmm

interesting theme

[tepid light]

I like it. For a month long jam, it allows to focus more on a solid product than on a gimick and a weird mechanic.

I was thinking about making a mobile game

in one month it would be possible to make something worth releasing

[small fern]

is that even a theme? 😄

well hacking is

modding is bit odd as it's super vague

like put weapon mods in game, done

[tepid light]

and now make a good game about it

[rigid fog]

tbh...

Just remake Deus Ex

[small fern]

sounds like a fallout game

[rigid fog]

Eh, not really fallout

[small fern]

it has computer hacking, weapon mods, skilltrees to improve yourself

[rigid fog]

But this is exactly Deus Ex

[small fern]

I still haven't played a single deus ex game

[rigid fog]

you missing out

[small fern]

I think I have the previous one though on steam

never just got around to play it

I mean, not the one that just released

but one before it

human revolution

[tepid light]

play human revoultion. it's very good

Yea, deus ex fits the theme 😃 but can you make it in a month?

[velvet echo]

no prizes?

just fame and glory?

[tepid light]

it appears so

[velvet echo]

2012 one gave away 5 ipads

2013 one gave away 5 ipad airs and $100 credit for github shop

[tepid light]

yea, based on that I hoped for some rewards

but there is no work about them this time

[stable kiln]

is it for team? 😛

[velvet echo]

"Unleash your creativity. You can work alone or with a team and build for any platform or device. The use of open source game engines and libraries is encouraged but not required."

i've looked at the code tree's for a few of the forks, haven't found any using UE4 yet.

[ember saffron]

is it me or in the Epic launcher when there is Pumking Hack pic as a game jam winner there is link to game opus

Please check it out

#channel

[glass fossil]

@ember saffron you are correct

it is a problem with how they've linked

they put the hash before the query params

which breaks hash linking functionality

they're doing some sort of web path tracking with the query params, so I'm guessing whoever linked forgot about that

[ember saffron]

@orchid surge @stray nest Could you do something about it? It's my friends game.

[orchid surge]

hey @ember saffron, for stuff like this, send a message to the "email us" button on help.epicgames.com.

[ember saffron]

ok

[glass fossil]

see if you strip out the query params and just load this https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?124973-Epic-MegaJam-Submission-Thread&p=608870&viewfull=1#post608870

you get the right post

[grizzled zenith]

I don't think anyone posted this here yet https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?127685-November-ue4jam-Nov-10-13th-THEME-TO-BE-ANNOUNCED!

update the info?

[glass fossil]

sure thing

November #ue4jam, November 10-13th. GO WITH THE FLOW!
https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?127685-November-ue4jam-Nov-10-13th-THEME-TO-BE-ANNOUNCED!

[small fern]

Theme is "I want to build a snowman"

Bit pissed off at myself for not getting all photosourcing done before the snow arrived

I'm sure it melts but still

[glass fossil]

Originally, I was thinking of skipping this one after the mega jam. But kinda hyped to just jump right back in and do another one since it's shorter 😃

[loud basalt]

too busy with black wool for this one, maybe do the next game jam or one after as a break once the prototype is done

[velvet echo]

if i was to participate i don't think i would do everything from scratch again.

just need a winner idea 😄

[rigid fog]

@velvet echo everyone has the potential of having a winner idea 😉

[velvet echo]

yes, but if too many other people have winner ideas, then mine is no longer a winner idea, cause it didn't win.

[rigid fog]

😉

[small fern]

yeah, I might skip this next one too

will see about it when they announce the theme though

[velvet echo]

i did start modelling a beast in zbrushcore. might even be able to use it in a future jam

[grizzled zenith]

haven't done a jam in a long time, defienetly going to participate in this one

maybe even going to team up

[grizzled zenith]

nuu Allar won't stream this jam 😞

[maiden loom]

WHAT

@pine fulcrum

I demand an explanation for this transgression.

[pine fulcrum]

Its been 2 years, eats up quite a bit of time, I've had a good run, other people are streaming now, time for others to be that guy

At first it was so that people making game jam entries could be sure that at least one person would play them

[maiden loom]

but now whose face will I sneak into every jam submission?

[pine fulcrum]

But now they're all getting pretty well played and stuff

My face can still go in them xD

But aye, probably @rigid fog

[dusky python]

@pine fulcrum
Will the last time was the last?

[pine fulcrum]

Probably

[dusky python]

@pine fulcrum Is that so.
Unfortunately.
There is no way.

Thank you for everything.

[grizzled zenith]

rip

[small fern]

Yeah

He never got to play my games, I so wanted to make hardest possible platformer for his enjoyment

But there were 3 pretty nice entries on that front on last megajam still

[sharp berry]

What!? @pine fulcrum stopped streaming jams? But he's like a massiah... his tips and critics are like words written in stone.. The burning bush you randomly find on this path of jam game developing. 💪

[grizzled zenith]

I have a feeling that he will just take a couple months break and get back to streaming after that

[sharp berry]

Jesus returned after 3 days, will @pine fulcrum return after 3 jams? 😛

[grizzled zenith]

let's hope so

[rigid fog]

Aye, didn't see this mention, but yeah, if @pine fulcrum is not doing the GameJams, someone should, for various reasons,at the very least to know that someone tried out their hardwork (as Allar mentioned). And I don't mind doing it, I've done them before, so I know how it goes, and I have enough freedom in my schedule to do so.

[stable kiln]

@grizzled zenith i might wunna join if u doin a team

did u try the new blender version btw? its rockin off sox

[grizzled zenith]

gotta try that out

[stable kiln]

try the bendy bones, its great fun 😛

[tepid light]

I just realized Dishonored 2 releases the day after game jam starts...

now this is a serious problem for me

[tough birch]

@rigid fog you're the perfect host to take his place to be fair

[rigid fog]

http://onehourgamejam.com/

As for perfect host? Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no comment

Those shoes are huge to fill imho

[small fern]

I vote he'd practise patience by finishing that note collector game!

While streaming of course

[rigid fog]

https://www.twitch.tv/victorburgos_

one hour game jam

[rigid fog]

well

That was an interesting game jam

short and sweet though

[ashen meadow]

@rigid fog doesnt seem to work?

i get lots of errors unzipping

[rigid fog]

?

[ashen meadow]

your 1 hour game jam game

i was going to check itout

but it doesnt seem to unzip right

nevermind

computer was using winrar

[rigid fog]

nothing special anyway

[ashen meadow]

not 7z

TIL winrar has trouble with 7z files

gg me

[rigid fog]

the other games though...pretty cool

[ashen meadow]

i won!

ha ha

i can barely open the engine in 1-hour

[rigid fog]

yeah, I should have put a little bit more thought about it, but I was already a bit late, worried about how to submit and stuff

[small fern]

yeah

7z is not a good format

I always use zip

it's bigger

but at least everyone can open it

[rigid fog]

7z has been out for so long

people just need to get with the program

[small fern]

well

all os can unzup

unzip

[rigid fog]

aye

what I hate...

.rar

like who the heck, other than burners use that

[small fern]

but 7z can unpack it...

but yeah

extra size is not issue nowadays

just zip everything

[grizzled zenith]

Me and @robust basalt are looking for other game jammers to team up for November ue4jam, msg us if interested 🙂

[stable kiln]

@grizzled zenith i can make some 3d stuff and animations 😛

[grizzled zenith]

@stable kiln you are banned from game jams, don't you remember? 😛

[stable kiln]

john cena unbanned me 😛

[grizzled zenith]

oh.. well no thanks still, your games are just too awesome... hope you understand

[stable kiln]

aww 😛

well ill just make my own game... with blackjack ... and hookers 😄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l3ipKcnYlQ

[grizzled zenith]

hahah perfect 😄

[stable kiln]

yea, it will be like theme park without the park and with a lot of hookers 😛

cant fail

[grizzled zenith]

Places still left! Join now!

(haven't got a single message after owninator) 😄

[small fern]

yeah, you guys sounded picky ;D

[rigid fog]

@grizzled zenith and @robust basalt interesting team combo

[stable kiln]

team blackjack and hookers still has 4 spots open and ''we'' aint picky at all

[sick forum]

team blackjack and hookers? lmao wat

[tall tendon]

Futurama ref. i'm suggesting..

[tepid light]

So, who wants to form a team?

I'm looking for people who can do graphics

[stable kiln]

@grizzled zenith is making a team, hes gunna be all serious and professional, and there is my team, im prolly just gunna get wasted and scream crazy stuff in my mic 😛

[grizzled zenith]

With blackjack and hookers

[stable kiln]

blackjack and bendy bones 😛

[glass fossil]

I think I'll continue my tradition of using half the time to try to learn something completely new for the jam.
This time around figuring out how to make basic characters in blender and making animations for them.

[stable kiln]

@glass fossil try the bendy bones they are fun for fast jammy anims

[glass fossil]

I'll take a look 😃

You always have really fun art in your entries~

[stable kiln]

this time ill prolly go mostly character and audio

havent done much good audio in my jams lately, allways short on time :p

who knows what i feel like doin when the time comes tho, might feel like singing and sing a little song 😛

[stable kiln]

@glass fossil ahh lol bbones are not supported in unreal yet, can only use em in blender atm

[glass fossil]

ah well, thats cool still to know about. If the theme allows I'll probably stick to animals with simple animations to make learning easier.

[stable kiln]

its pretty new so who knows 😃

[waxen island]

What's the game jam coming up?

[glass fossil]

November 10th

So this Thursday, probably with the theme announced during the stream

[waxen island]

How long do you have for submissions?

[glass fossil]

Midnight on Sunday

[waxen island]

Ah cool. And people start forming teams beforehand?

[glass fossil]

yep you can form a team whenever you'd like, or run solo. just can't start with the actual dev process until the theme is announced

[waxen island]

Cool. I've never done one so just learning

[stable kiln]

well u are allways free to learn new stuff b4 it begins 😛

[glass fossil]

for sure, and the forum thread will be updated when the theme is announced, so even if you miss the stream you can find the info there

[waxen island]

Awesome. I may participate then

[robust basalt]

https://media.giphy.com/media/jlAsuRz3J3cxW/giphy.gif

[stable kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFRbZJXjWIA

[waxen island]

Anyone need a 3D artist/level guy for your team?

https://www.artstation.com/artist/mcgillchris

[rigid fog]

And I'll be streaming all the submissions right after the deadline

[robust basalt]

I fully expect you to crunch 2 days without sleep

before you start the stream

just for additional entertainment value 😄

[pine fulcrum]

Doing that isn't fun man

Oh boy

[rigid fog]

Heh

I have class on Monday, so I am streaming until I have to leave

And then I'll finish it up when I get back

Or, I might not even make it to class on Monday. Who knows

[loud basalt]

somewhat considering doing this one just to take a breather from my current project

[robust basalt]

game jams are the best procrastination method around

[loud basalt]

maybe this time i'll bother some people i know and make a team

[rigid fog]

@loud basalt didn't you have a team?

[loud basalt]

depends how you define team, i had someone who did the sound

did the concept, coding, art, everything other than sound myself

[dusky python]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PkIdQVefDg

[keen plinth]

If anyone is looking to teamup for this jam let me know I can program in bp, I would like to do something with some AI

[noble mason]

Me and a friend want to make a game and we have no clue where to start. Help D:

[glass fossil]

which part would you like help with?

[noble mason]

Everything really

[velvet echo]

start with one of the templates. done

[small fern]

not sure if the game jam is the best place to learn everything from scratch

at least do something simple beforehand as 3.5 days is not much time..

[stable kiln]

soo, if any1 wunna join me in making something silly there are still 4 spots 😛

[small fern]

you could just make alt nick and sneak into @grizzled zenith 's team

[stable kiln]

ahh, yea thats a great idea!

u got a portofolio i can lend? 😄

ill be proninator, that sounds kinda professional 😛

ow w8 that has pr0n in it

[grizzled zenith]

We are full

[stable kiln]

ahh no room for owninator huh... well ill make my own game and its gunna make gamjam great again!

Id team up with @ashen meadow , but with those elections goin on im not sure the world can handle another dose of crazy 😛

[loud basalt]

if the theme inspires something i'll do this jam i think

[loud basalt]

but waitttt, allar not streaming it ;D

[robust basalt]

gg

[frosty raptor]

What time is the theme usually announced?

[glass fossil]

So hyped for tomorrow

it's announced at the end of the thursday streams

so we should know around 12 noon tomorrow in the PST timezone

[frosty raptor]

sweet, thanks 😃

[lapis lichen]

game jam HYYYYPPPPPEEEEEE

[tepid light]

HYPE!

[pale eagle]

Wonder what the dev grant surprise is.

[maiden loom]

probably that there's more money going into the pot?

[stable kiln]

surprize .. the money is gone 😃

[digital fern]

hehe

"it all went up into the tree's"

[stable kiln]

all the money goes to alex and chance for making a game about fighting off hordes of angry forum ppl 😃

[austere glade]

can this be the prize of the next game jam? http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=6002#ov

(over the intel NUC)

[glass fossil]

woot! woke up in time to catch the stream 😃

[glass fossil]

GO WITH THE FLOW

is the theme

[stable kiln]

hmm interesting

i couldnt get cataclysm working on my pc thats kind of a bummer 😛

[glass fossil]

Updated channel description

[stable kiln]

now, time to make something i guess

[loud basalt]

i got a gud idea

i'll be participating

good theme

[glass fossil]

yeah this one seems a bit more abstract than the last one, going to try to really think about it and not go with the first idea

[vocal elm]

My first idea is horrible.

like in... bad taste.

people falling off of a water fall and goal is to catch them... or watch them splat.

[loud basalt]

well, you could say the kickback was in bad taste going by that, but it was best entry imo 😛

[vocal elm]

^^

[stable kiln]

great progress so far

[loud basalt]

we've all lost i guess 😃

jk im gonna win

[digital fern]

any good modelers/animators around?

way over qualified hehe, (which is good)

you ok with me dm-ing?

[covert quartz]

yeah,

[digital fern]

aaand back looking for a decent modeler 😦

Tyr is awesome though, apparently had same employers hehe

its a small world afterall

[glass fossil]

Particularly in game dev, constantly running into people that left our company just walking around the same inner part of Seattle

[waxen island]

@digital fern I can do models semi decently

[digital fern]

stylized & a few cutesey critters is all i need

no need for ultra high end

[waxen island]

THOUGH I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON

I could probably swing that. Would enjoy trying something differnt

[digital fern]

i remmeber seeing some of your work, but ive seen so much work i cant put your work to your face

or whatever english proper sentence this not is

[loud basalt]

2 hours into the jam and i'm already fixing editor crashes, gg

now this is a good joke, these crashes are because i initially mistyped my BP_Player as BP_PLayer then renamed

and i had a fobjectfinder looking for it

[stable kiln]

save often 😛

[quiet thistle]

so anyone want to do the gamejam?

something simple

my idea is, trump is elected president and you gotta choose to go with the flow or riot and destory the white house lmfao

and riot

[carmine kindle]

You can already play that in real life.

[quiet thistle]

lol

[stable kiln]

im makin something, was planning on something silly, non political tho 😛

[quiet thistle]

man, you gotta do something political

they chose the theme for it lol

thats my impression at least

[carmine kindle]

A lot of people are itching to do something political now, probably.

[stable kiln]

think ill google all meanings of flow 😛

after i grab a drink

wow dictionary nr 5. to menstruate.

no owni dont

dont

stay clear

or should I...

[carmine kindle]

No.

[digital fern]

might need a sound person and an animator

[glass fossil]

Downloading elemental demo so I can see how they did river 😆

tried to find elemental demo but aparantly that is only for really old versions of engine, either that or I just don't know where to find it

[digital fern]

learning tab right?

also, i cant remember it having a river

[glass fossil]

ah what... I thought I looked ealier and didn't see

now its here!

you're a wizard

[digital fern]

luos potter

[glass fossil]

thanks!

[digital fern]

now if only i could maigcally spawn an animator and sound person

[glass fossil]

hoping that looking at lava flows is enough to give basic idea on making flowing material

[digital fern]

ff my writing today, all typos

wasnt that vertex animated? i think it was

the texture itself is just pannings

[glass fossil]

ah then I can probably just take the water example in the learn tab and pan it

Forum thread updated with theme for those that missed it:
https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?127685-November-ue4jam-Nov-10-13th-THEME-TO-BE-ANNOUNCED!

GO WITH THE FLOW

okay, time to start modeling some chickens

[digital fern]

aww

[digital fern]

k, only semi-worrying thing atm is animations

but we'll manage

well, that and my concussion behaving hehe

[glass fossil]

Speaking of animations, decided to start learning animations in blender since there will be no relying on MIxamo/Unreal Skeleton for these chickens 😆

[digital fern]

neat, i like that you are pushing yourself each jam

[glass fossil]

thanks, every jam I've been making sure it was focused on an area I know nothing about ❤ I want to accelerate my gamedev knowledge as much as possible so can't rest easy in familiar territory~

[slate salmon]

this is going to sound so cheesy and cliche considering the theme, but does anyone know how to make water like in terraria?

just some nice 2d flowing water physics

[digital fern]

thats way harder than you probably think.

good luck, as I dont have a clue either though

[carmine kindle]

Nvidia has some stuff for 3d liquids (which I assume you can just squeeze onto a 2d plane), but I'm not sure how easy it is to get working. https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?118127-NVIDIA-Cataclysm-Realtime-Liquid-Solver

[slate salmon]

Last time I checked, Nvidia 3d liquids arent supported on windows 7, which is what I'm using 😦

[glass fossil]

starting to use the hotkeys more and more exclusively in blender, getting a bit comfy

[small fern]

@glass fossil elemental lava will probably not help you, I think they used bone animation for is in a vay which isn't really easy to pull of unless you know the modeling tools inside and out

even using alembic would be easier but both ways are pita to get looping seamlessy

if you remember my september jam entry, I just used water textures from engine content and panned it twice at different speeds, both color texture and normal map

that's probably the easiest way to pull it off

[glass fossil]

thanks for the tip~
I'll definitely look at doing something like that so I don't get trapped going down some other long path 😃

[small fern]

I'm liking the theme

I like how they went away from those really tricky ones

this current one gives you plenty of room to go creative with

also, I wasn't going to try to do this but now I'm tempted on making some fluid sim stuff

(which is way too complicated for me to learn during the jam anyway)

[glass fossil]

for sure, definitely have to be careful on this one. much shorter time than last months

[waxen island]

Excited to be a past of my first jam

[glass fossil]

nice, look forward to your results, so far I've always found them very rewarding

[tough birch]

My first jam and im already regretting saying yes to a team member

[rigid fog]

@tough birch why?

[tough birch]

@rigid fog im trying to work and he is messaging me every minute haha

[rigid fog]

Good teammates do

[small fern]

make sure to have some beep beep sounds for every message

and flashing windows

[tough birch]

@small fern please no 😛

[small fern]

heh, someones had great timing for materplace featuring during the jam

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/

[ashen meadow]

@rigid fog are you using restream for beam and twitch?

how do i get the messages from one go to the other?

[rigid fog]

restream bot

click on it in settings

[ashen meadow]

that different than restream chat?

[rigid fog]

?

[ashen meadow]

i dont know. i have restream chat

is there a separate bot?

[rigid fog]

https://gyazo.com/4bcc86bf55abbfe0f098fd201c26aad1

I should stream my newb ass 2d learning

[ashen meadow]

yes

awesome

thank you

couldnt find that damn checkbox

knew it was in there somewhere

[stable kiln]

ahh nice right B4 i went to sleep i completely broke the physics of my character 😛

[glass fossil]

@small fern oh jeez, that water material pack

[stable kiln]

soo, am i gunna look for the checkbox that wil fix my physics or just redo it...

1.5 hours versus unknown time 😛

ill just redo it, looking for checkboxes in the morning not so cool

@ashen meadow u jammin too?

[small fern]

@glass fossil yeah, great timing

although not sure if people will buy it just for gamejam with that price point 😄

[frosty raptor]

theres a nice water shader in the community ocean project

[small fern]

it doesn't have shoreline interaction though

also

[frosty raptor]

for free, its really nice 😄

[small fern]

epics water planes isn't that bad once you tweak it a little bit

I don't really care if something is free or not (as long as it's affordable and properly made)

[frosty raptor]

😆

[stable kiln]

soo i want some free funky music i can use 😛

where do you ppl go? 😃

[small fern]

you mean, not Kevin?

what I've seen on past gamejams, all use the same dudes music 😄

[stable kiln]

hmm, from where?

I might want too edit it too

[frosty raptor]

Kevin Macleod

[small fern]

thats the guy

someone had some other links that had music too

was is @civic dock ?

[frosty raptor]

i put on his folk music sometimes 😄

[stable kiln]

ok, my char is allmost done, startin too look great 😃

no more spoilers tho

music has flow too

[civic dock]

@stable kiln You might want to try http://openmusicarchive.org/

Or http://www.purple-planet.com/home/4592632681

It's hard to find good music for free, but those resources are the only ones I've found that seem somewhat legit.

[stable kiln]

1st site doesnt stream?

2nd isnt free?

[indigo harbor]

@stable kiln check out music tab at the bottom https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18pzaMwluBreBKvMxsB22IgLGdxUTE54dkC3tMDn9W8g/edit#gid=1558952736

[civic dock]

@stable kiln What about Purple Planet isn't free?

[stable kiln]

it say 8$ for normal use

[civic dock]

Uhhh.

Are you talking about the License Purchase page?

That's only necessary if you can't credit them in your project or think you'll be asked by a third party for proof of license.

You can simply download any of the music on the site and credit Purple Planet Music somewhere in the project.

[stable kiln]

ow cool

[civic dock]

🙂

Details are on the Using Our Free Music page.

[stable kiln]

actually some good stuff on here

@civic dock whats ur fav music tool?

[civic dock]

Like for making music?

[stable kiln]

yea or crazy fx

[civic dock]

I use FL Studio with a lot of plugins and sample libraries.

[stable kiln]

ahh cool

they might as well ad a prize for best panner material 😛

@glass fossilk purple planet has great stuff 😃

oops

[small fern]

same happened to me too

discords tagging has still lots of room for improvement

[stable kiln]

poor guy 😛

[small fern]

I don't even get the logic it uses

like if word continues, you just don't go putting the messages to the first part

I'm guessing here it's to help doing things like @small fern's etc

but they could use it only for specific chars then

[stable kiln]

and another animation done 😃

[glass fossil]

on a roll 😄

[stable kiln]

still have no clue what ill do for gameplay tho

[tough birch]

dont you hate when you find out you're reinventing the wheel

I never even knew projectile components existed

dpoamwdopmawpodm

[stable kiln]

well if there wasnt a wheel allready u know u would be rich 😛

my character is kinda done, i named him slurpyderp

I can still join a team btw 😃

when slurpydurp smiles at me i know he can be president someday

[stable kiln]

well i basically got everything done i wanted to try out this jam

other than using bendy bones in unreal but guess that wil have to wait

[pale hatch]

anyone streaming their jam?

[tough birch]

http://i.imgur.com/c3q2MhM.png

Anyone seen smeagol?

[digital fern]

if you unwrap a fish, could you call the uv-islands filets?

[tough birch]

@digital fern hahaha

[stable kiln]

hmm , dunno what too make next

[tough birch]

@stable kiln my gamejam entry would be a good start

ill sit back while you make it

[stable kiln]

hmm my model is in a tad diffrent style tho 😛

i like the firefighter idea tho

[tough birch]

I'm repurposing everything here but a golden rule, it doesn't matter what the object is, if its too small for them to identify it can be used

so a waterfall effect is now my bubble effect

[stable kiln]

yea good use of premade stuff is hard to spot 😃

[tough birch]

http://i.imgur.com/axpfCNF.png

does it look bubbly?

[stable kiln]

its a tad hard to spot

[tough birch]

ill have to try coloring it up a bit more blue

[pale eagle]

Has anyone implemented a leaderboard system and have a preference for quick and dirty ones? I can set a robust one up on AWS but it'd probably take me all weekend to implement the SDK into the engine.

[stable kiln]

epic leaderboard plugin?

never used myself tho

[digital fern]

re: fish fillets
https://i.gyazo.com/dd2a02d92a5f7e290508bf7f1980bde4.gif

[pine fulcrum]

FISH FILLET

[digital fern]

on the BBQ~

[pale eagle]

Saw epic leaderboard, it may work for the Jam. I'll give it a shot.

Would definitely need to replace it afterwards.

[maiden loom]

Epic leaderboard?

[glass fossil]

Go with the flow

what kinds of games fall in to those categories ?

[tough birch]

@stable kiln http://i.imgur.com/KoClRbM.png

better?

[stable kiln]

yup. now im sure its not a dirty spot on my monitor 😛

[tough birch]

I made them more blue, now I'll get onto some AI

[stable kiln]

damn still no idea on gameplay 😛

[glass fossil]

monring all~
time for some more jammin

[stable kiln]

im havin a writes block 😛

*writers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_UDguQ420I

[digital fern]

why does weird shit always have to happen during a gamejam

ive made vertex animated meshes with 65k vertices all overlapping eachother, moving kilometers away

nothing failed

now its a frickin 200 polygon thing, and the vertex baker goes NOPE FFUUU

[digital fern]

https://i.gyazo.com/a393bb544b725054268625406ada7a73.gif

[glass fossil]

Eco vibes 😃

[digital fern]

please dont expect an ecco hehe

https://i.gyazo.com/4c1c24694f277a50b1d625661d05b62a.gif

[digital fern]

https://i.gyazo.com/ccd83b906f28c48271d8045e4b1fd321.png

[mint flint]

Whoo game loop done!

[digital fern]

Whoo!

[mint flint]

Game has no graphics but I got a game 😃 I could actually just piece together levels and call it done if I wanted and man that makes me happy. Only spent an hour on stream debugging a dumbass me problem too.. lol

[digital fern]

we still dont have a game, but we have a jumping fish!

and a semi-finished heron

and a cute critter

[mint flint]

well it looks like a game 😃

[digital fern]

https://i.gyazo.com/931a2b73f09695579fd943d2f737cc45.gif

[glass fossil]

nice~

[digital fern]

how you been doing today val?

[glass fossil]

Got a bit distracted with family stuff, but I fished the chicken a little bit ago and now have about 5 animations for it. (talking/dancing/pecking/lean left/lean right) so am about to finalize them and move onto making a game.

[digital fern]

nice 😃

[glass fossil]

have a pretty solid understanding of most of the hotkeys involved in very basic blender modeling and animations so that has already been a big gain

hardly need to go into the menu now

[digital fern]

meantime I have been lowpoly modelling, havent done that in a while so its good fun

brings me back to mah rootz

[glass fossil]

nice, that art style can really pay off from what I've seen if going for whimsical/casual/fun

[digital fern]

yea, sadly mine is the real oldskool stuff, not the awesome hipster stuff hehe

https://i.gyazo.com/4eaf3e99061bead403dc762af4c508bf.gif hehe

[glass fossil]

Good enough! Time to learn how anim blueprints work

http://i.giphy.com/3oriNXkWH6cVlYI5kk.gif

[waxen island]

All I have to say is that @digital fern is a slave driver

[rigid fog]

Going to be so many games with water

I hope I don't get bored

[waxen island]

How many submissions do you think there will be?

[glass fossil]

good question, it's certainly less than the 200+ mega jam entries, but not sure how much less

[mint flint]

My game will have 0 water!

[glass fossil]

Checked out what Blend Spaces are, going to use it to make the character lean in the right direction smoothly when avoiding obstacles.

http://i.giphy.com/l2JhpR01hkJNSQ2pa.gif

[waxen island]

Blendspaces are awesome

[robust basalt]

just to check with you guys

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20161113T00&p0=207&msg=July+Game+Jam+Deadline+Countdown

the official timer is off, right?

it says 26 hours left

[glass fossil]

we have way more than that

at least I thought we did

[robust basalt]

it should be night of sunday to monday, like it used to be`

?

[glass fossil]

yeah I think that is a mistake

[robust basalt]

well, then somebody fucked up the timer

k

[glass fossil]

https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?127685-November-ue4jam-Nov-10-13th-GO-WITH-THE-FLOW

midnight between the 13th/14th

[rigid fog]

I will start downloading them

probably sunday around 10pm my time

[pale eagle]

@rigid fog I'll have a Vive game for ya

[rigid fog]

Oh yeah buddy @pale eagle ?

It's been awhile since you've done one

(jam)

[pale eagle]

I think just one month. I missed October (getting married) and...I burned out my project in August

Was just kinda bleh in August. Sick, uninspired, bleh

Was kinda sad I missed October. I've been meaning to try a horror game and the week would have been enough, I think, to get something cool

But I got a wife out of missing it, so v0v

[rigid fog]

😉

Wife>VideoGames

[glass fossil]

Decided to check out kite demo to see if I could learn from their water... "WE HOPE YOU HAVE 24GB of RAM"

[rigid fog]

^

[glass fossil]

yep, 16GB is just dying, going to have to upgrade to 32

[brittle lintel]

its amazing

love me my 32 gb

on another note a 1tb sd card has been made

[elder hollow]

Hello everyone. I was wondering where do people recruit team mates to work on a project here on Unreal Slackers?

[glass fossil]

You could try #career-chat

or if you want to be more casual about it #ue4-general or #lounge

[elder hollow]

ok

cool, thanks

[small fern]

if I were to build a new comp now, I'd get 64GB ram straight away

it's overkill for regular gamedev

but photogrammetry for example eats all RAM I feed to it

[rigid fog]

oh snap

he answered here

heh

[stable kiln]

@glass fossil lol i just replaced my blenspaces with physical animations 😛

it actually works pretty decent, when one anim finished it slowly get pushed into the next

[glass fossil]

awwww shiiii! upping the game to the next level

[stable kiln]

and in the learn stream they said it wouldnt replace IK 😛

fancy stairs walking 😛

[rigid fog]

as long as you don't have 💩 cameras this time @stable kiln

[stable kiln]

Ur my designated motion sickness tester 😛

i did put 1 rotating camera in there, its not ratationg and moving this time thi

tho

prolly good for vieuws if u trow up tho 😄

[ashen meadow]

why isnt the fancy stairs picture a gif

this is an outrage

[glass fossil]

@stable kiln he'll get mad hits, but then the fame will depend on more and more outrageous vomit-inducing games

[ashen meadow]

this timeline sounds like the best timeline

[stable kiln]

@ashen meadow u jammin too?

@glass fossil i didnt even try last time, and it wasnt even VR so its possible 😄

[glass fossil]

it was at that moment victor realized he had screwed up taking on the mantle of jam streamer

[stable kiln]

serious, if he got like 5 of those camera games in a row he would have died

I never seen anything like it, its a good study case 😄

mayB i should make VR games for huantanamo bay?

wow a song on free music archive its 1:45:46 long all high pitch tone and in the end a lil rumble or something

[digital fern]

cracks the whip

[tough birch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/246150568425422849/246925208881987585/floscreen1.png

[sharp berry]

1,5 days left, 0 progress..

[rigid fog]

man

up for 24 hours

between work, gamejam, and schoolwork

tough weekend

THEN I still have to stream

[sharp berry]

I've 0 ideas for this jam, sigh

[rigid fog]

We got a decent one

[digital fern]

imagine casually stepping into https://i.gyazo.com/39eb8cc4846ec3e5abd7a297f5777aed.png

[stable kiln]

@sharp berry u can join my zero idea project 😛

[digital fern]

is that countdown ffed up or what?

[rigid fog]

yes

you have 41 hours to go

[digital fern]

good

thanks for clarifying

https://i.gyazo.com/80e71f892f10bfff5ce85a799ff7ebc5.gif

[digital fern]

@queen thistle

[stable kiln]

well i cant think of anything, prolly just put collect 10 things in there and call it done

[small fern]

too bad no @pine fulcrum stream, he really loved collector games last time :/

[rigid fog]

The new guy doesn't wnat boring shit like that either

But at least it isn't 100

[stable kiln]

ill try keep it short 😄

[dull basin]

first dog character ever XD time for slapunas to rig 😛

[compact cedar]

@digital fern this is really lovely potato

[proven badge]

Currently busy rigging this cheeky baah-stard

[compact cedar]

@proven badge haha, sheep-it! nau!

[rigid fog]

@proven badge @dull basin please don't disappoint! 😃

[tough birch]

http://i.imgur.com/2kaI4Zp.jpg

[stable kiln]

i like how the shader works on the truck

[digital fern]

sheeps and dogs ftw

really love the dog

[ashen meadow]

it looks alright but maybe you should ask owninator for some help in the art direction 😋

[proven badge]

Finally done riggin this bah-stard

[proven badge]

https://gfycat.com/GranularPleasantJanenschia
Ear Physics In 😄

[stable kiln]

weird my custom event wont stop looping

[mint flint]

omg that sheep

[pine fulcrum]

10/10 sheep

[mint flint]

I'm looking at all these pro models and textures and my game has no external assets.. lol

[glass fossil]

For sure 😃

[mint flint]

I'm going to add some sounds here in a bit but that's going to be all the external stuff. I don't know how to make sounds in editor only yet lol 😃

[digital fern]

wanna keep the waterfall + water I made a secret for now just for wow factor later

but it looks saweet

very windwaker/stylized

[proven badge]

no external assets here either

[rigid fog]

Music/sound @proven badge ?!

[proven badge]

yeah gonan record my own voice as usual

[rigid fog]

jaba jaba

[proven badge]

papa banana

[rigid fog]

https://clips.twitch.tv/awesomeallar/CleanMagpieRiPepperonis

^ must watch

[glass fossil]

wow, I saw his stream title earlier but didn't think he meant literally

[rigid fog]

@proven badge next time please: https://twitter.com/ImmersedGames/status/792153257665712129

https://gyazo.com/9b0173ea72622059abba1c23c8d061ec

Or a duck

[proven badge]

heck is that

[rigid fog]

Or Penguin...

I think that's a pigeon

But I don't know crap about bird

actually pigeons are gray usually

so no

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[proven badge]

no i mean why are you telling me this

[glass fossil]

Made a tree in blender, sappling tool is awesome, they fall in your path as you near them.

[mint flint]

Oh Cluck!

[bitter pier]

Oh Cluck!

[proven badge]

nice chicken

[glass fossil]

Three little chickens are going on an adventure, collide with objects and watch one go flying. Lost all 3 and the adventure comes to an end.

[proven badge]

https://gfycat.com/GargantuanColdHairstreakbutterfly
Say hi to these Baaaahstards!

[glass fossil]

lol

[proven badge]

damn making characters with physics is super fun

aaand fun is over, gonna go rig other character 😦

or screw it gonna pass out, cya tommorow guys

[glass fossil]

that way you'll have enough energy to power through tomorrow 😃

[proven badge]

ye planning to pull all nighter

oki going for real now 😄 cya

[digital fern]

that looks so awesome

pre-lighting pass: https://i.gyazo.com/a7c0e4ca2bf1b57d374024554b41b548.gif

[rigid fog]

Everyone bringing their A-Game this month...

Strange, because you should have last month ;0

[digital fern]

concussion

[rigid fog]

Ah true

You have to make up for it

[digital fern]

else ive been all up in that thing man

was so sad i couldnt

[rigid fog]

Well gl to you and everyone else, and I can't wait to play all your games tomorrow night

[digital fern]

yea, ive seen quite some awesome stuff

will be fun to watch it all

you recording your stream i hope

[glass fossil]

wah! that looks so good

love the water

[digital fern]

thanks

[pine fulcrum]

@glass fossil Literally literally.

[glass fossil]

Eh?

[pine fulcrum]

Nothing, nvm

[glass fossil]

Ah right, the shock stream 😃

[mint flint]

jesus so much art in this jam

[small fern]

yeah

good thing that I passed this one 😄

although art alone doesn't win gamejams

but there's been few winning entries that most likely wouldn'have gotten into top three without their art

[mint flint]

oh for sure and I am proof art doesn't win jams 😃 The Quality of the art I am seeing in this channel along tho is quite awesome

welp off to finish up the entry 😃 Still deciding if I should do some voice over for the intro

but that means I need to do an intro lol

[cedar spindle]

Hey, anyone know why my pawn collision isn't working? I have a pawn controlled by my player controller which has constant movement input and a block all dynamic collision mesh and collision box. I am trying to collide it with an instance from an instanced static mesh which is set to block all. Any thoughts?

https://i.gyazo.com/c026c6c823d03c7d3840c8c1559b7cd7.mp4

Example ^^

[glass fossil]

so it has both collision box and collision mesh?

[cedar spindle]

Well, I added the collision box after it wasn't working with the mesh.

[small fern]

@cedar spindle why you need ISM?

your issues could be related to that

[cedar spindle]

Hmm

[small fern]

also

are your boxes you hit simulating physics?

or let's start again

what do you want/expect to happen?

try to collide doesn't really tell if you expect the player to halt or the hit object to move

[cedar spindle]

I would like for my ship (player pawn with floatingpawnmovement component) to impact with objects in my environment

So it should stop the player from moving through it regardless of Movement Input

[small fern]

easiest way to make that all work would be to do all movement with physics forces

if you do it with movement component, I don't think they handle impacts properly

like.. you need to code it yourself when it happens

on both sides, to your pawn and the objects it hits

[cedar spindle]

Hmm. In the past when i've used character movement components it handled it fine

I guess I shouldn't have assumed that the floating pawn movement was hte same?

[small fern]

it probably has additional functionality to push things

CMC had option to toggle that on and off if I remember right

other movement components are more like shells for the things they describe

there's not much functionality in them

I'm not saying the thing is not there, but I kinda doubt it

you could fire impulses to the hit objects though

or if you overlap something

if you just need a quick solution

[cedar spindle]

Hmm

I'm worried about redoing it with forces since of the time constraints of the jam

[small fern]

yeah

I know

[cedar spindle]

I might just use overlaps and blow the ship up, but if you're moving slowly into something the player won't like blowing up

[small fern]

well, you can calculate the impact speed

kinda 😄

it's always hacky with these time constraints

[cedar spindle]

Yeahhhhh