lounge

[night grove]

Everything I draw looks like "potato people" with deformed proportions

[deep copper]

can you make it good?

[night grove]

This is actually kind of the idea behind matte painting

[deep copper]

never heard of it but i guess I will look into it now

[night grove]

You layer multiple cut up images in photo shop

Then paint over them

[deep copper]

as long as body parts are connected to what they should be

[night grove]

With midjourney you could make a half dozen or so source imaged in an hour or so. Then layer, paint, profit.

[deep copper]

ah, cool

[night grove]

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/169786/scythe

The artist that made the bulk of the artwork for this game used matte painting

He was kind of crucified when the public found out because it was heavily implied to be all original work.

[broken sigil]

now anyone wanna see my collection of ancient robots inspired by shadow of the colossus 😅

[deep copper]

if it looks original, it's good

[night grove]

But a lot of concept artists use matte painting to iterate quickly

[deep copper]

yup i have seen similar methods employed a lot

no one has enough time

and we aren't mj to do this in 60 sec

[night grove]

Then you have drama like this: https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2021/03/mtg-wotc-suspends-work-with-artist-after-crux-of-fate-scandal.html

With outright plagiarism using matte painting.

[deep copper]

poor guys

i wonder how well mj would handle plahedjso

plagiarism*

[night grove]

I want to see it!

[deep copper]

i want to see you..

jk

[broken sigil]

Doesn't matter you will see it anyways
||because I have an addiction||

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/i-highly-doubt-that-alex-moffat-saturday-night-live-doubt-that-doubt-it-gif-21648148

[night grove]

It's contagious!

[broken sigil]

Yep 😅

[night grove]

I'm about 90% certain to get a sub because of you

You should be an affiliate / evangelist

[broken sigil]

Hope it comes with some extra fast hours lol

[night grove]

Oh wow. That's in like a week right?

[broken sigil]

yep 😅

[night grove]

I burned through my trial in like 3 minutes

But I did accidentally click on variations on someone else's image because the newbie thread was getting spammed

[broken sigil]

as I said I'm totally not ||(yes I am)|| addicted

[deep copper]

that's so cool, and shady!

[broken sigil]

Yeah if you subscribe you can generate stuff in DMs so it's much better to work with

[night grove]

I assume anyone serious is going to do it this way

Then they can iterate and share only the good stuff

[deep copper]

manny can generate some text in dms too, like outlook good

[night grove]

My images were only with a couple iterations because the trial is so short

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-you-you-pointing-gif-9478893

[broken sigil]

I usually do like 50 variations and upscales before I get what I want lol
That's why I think the only real plan is the 30$ one, the basic ones is too short

[night grove]

I knew it! The stuff you show is too good to be off just a few tries

[deep copper]

you are hardcore

[night grove]

Anything worth doing is going to take time

Which is ironic considering most people think AI generated = effortless work

[deep copper]

it's still faster than a human

[night grove]

It's also why I know NFT won't ever take off

[deep copper]

and you end up waiting mostly, or planning what to do next (that's if you arent making the ai ofc)

[night grove]

"Randomly generated" video game content has been the holy grail for how many years?

[deep copper]

i only know rng dungeons are a thing

[broken sigil]

That's why I still consider it art, it's still not that easy to get exactly what you want
It requires a bit of "word manipulation", setting weights for parts of the prompt, etc.. to get what you want

[night grove]

It requires careful tuning, curation, and other work by the dev.

[steel summit]

Downloading "The Crew 2". It's on a free 5 day trial starting now. Any good?

[deep copper]

and also making it avoid weird generations, quite irritating work

[night grove]

Yeah "roguelikes" are a great genre (the only I've played recently) but there are a lot of failed runs because "bad seeds" (or poor skill)

[deep copper]

seeds.. reminds me of eggs 🤔

[regal pecan]

seed could have a lot to do with the outcome, though the only true roguelike I've tried playing was stonesoup

[night grove]

I've been playing a little Slay the Spire this week. REALLY bad idea. I didn't realize how game deprived I was until I stayed up until 4am trying for an achievement.

[broken sigil]

mechs is 1850s are turning out great 👀
Gonna share it once they are fully baked 😅

[night grove]

https://tenor.com/view/detective-pokemon-gif-14437525

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/im-addicted-per-fredrik-asly-pellek-addict-im-an-addict-gif-19088721

[night grove]

I'm going to have to get over the finish line on my current feature lineup before I start on that addiction

[broken sigil]

If I had to choose I would rather be addicted to AI than cigarettes or alcohol

[night grove]

Ah yeah thats a good choice

I don't get the alcohol thing. Grew up very naive / oppressed religiously so only had alcohol for the first time last year. Maybe it makes more sense in a social situation.

I AM addicted to coffee though. Even though it tastes terrible and I hate it.

[broken sigil]

I never got drunk and don't plan on doing it, I just don't get the point of it
I'm not against consuming alcohol in normal amounts, a beer every once in a while is fine

But drinking to the point where you end up laying in a bush... I don't see the point of it
Then again I'm not fun at parties and I hate them so... lol

[night grove]

Yeah I'm no fun at parties either, maybe that's why I didn't "get it" (alcohol)

[deep glen]

i recently realized I should have been drunk more, and stoned less.

just dont overdrink

[broken sigil]

I think I first need a group of friends for that action to be possible 😅

Yeah it's addiction
But I'm more referring to people like a group that I used to hang out with that planned a whole weekend just to get drunk to the point they don't even remember what happened

I was always their babysitter

[deep glen]

gf didnt have a group of friends either (to go to festivals) so she joined a local festival-goer group on facebook, and now she has a steady group of people she can hang out with when she goes to a festival. takes a bit of effort, but did pay off.

[steel summit]

Never be the only stoned person at a party full of drinkers and never be the only drinker in a room full of stoners.

It's just weird.

But I'd gladly partake in both given the opportunity 😄

[broken sigil]

I like to (over) calculate everything and I don't like the idea of not having full control over my actions or not thinking through them like I usually would 😅

[steel summit]

That's fine, to each their own. Screw anyone who says you have to try this drug or chug this beer.

[broken sigil]

I sound like a really fun person, I know 😅
||that's sarcasm||

[deep glen]

you sound exactly like me

XD

[broken sigil]

I sometimes feel like I'm a younger version of you, some stories and life experiences are so similar to mine 😅

[deep glen]

well take it from old fart you then, to do small things out of your comfort zone, and keep adding more steps :)

then again, perhaps you need to be my age to understand XD

[pearl elk]

Hi my name is Mons and Im a technoholic

[steel summit]

If you stop and think about it, its kind of crazy how vastly different people's life experiences are. All of us are so accustomed to working on computers and yet there's still people out there who refuse to even touch anything to do with modern day technology.

[deep glen]

@steel summit gf's mom had a 3-week long panic attack because we had to replace the tv remote she had with another one

day in day out calls with "cant turn on tv"

but she's techno-blind or whatever its called

[steel summit]

Random home tech support phone calls are THE WORST!

[deep glen]

just -100% understanding technology

[foggy path]

I think it's a problem that somehow people don't learn things like "button"

[steel summit]

I've had to "fix" the printer so many times ....

[night grove]

no I will not fix your computer shirt.png

[foggy path]

so instead of "button" they see a bunch of mumbojumbo

and the idea that people say things like "i'm too dumb to understand it" etc. which seems somewhat prevalent

is probably a partial cause because they can just hide behind that

[night grove]

Too lazy is the real answer

They know you can come in and save them

[foggy path]

pretty much I guess

[deep glen]

depends on the person, but there are some of those yea

[night grove]

Though I'm that way about a lot of home repair stuff

But that's also based on being terribly clumsy and a firm believe I should not touch any tool I could use to remove fingers

Technophobes don't have that excuse!

[pearl elk]

presses the mumbojumbo button

[foggy path]

If you give a technophobe guy a power tool they will know how to work it even if it's different from their old power tools :P

Same principle.

The tools have the same affordances that they've learned to identify so even if it's a different color and in a different place they can figure it out

But they lack the "vocabulary" for tech so they can't

[steel summit]

I wonder how long it will be until one day I'm just sitting there in my isolation chamber pod being mocked by a group of teenagers in the metaverse for not understanding why the dynamic antigravity crystals I bought don't work with the energy inverter my Dad left for me.

[night grove]

And yet they can't find the off button on the TV remote...

[deep glen]

im having a brainfart
in rpg's (especially ye olde ones) there is an overworld, whats the opposite called? (when you enter dungeons and towns)

[foggy path]

Are they called something 🤔

[night grove]

I wonder about this some times too. Will I become the old fart that can't use tech?

[night grove]

Underworld!

[foggy path]

I thought overworld was the "map screen" and if you go into a town it's just a town

[deep glen]

there is a group-name of environments that are not overworld, but i forgot

[night grove]

I'm not sure there is a singular word tbh. In MMOs dungeons are often called instances.

But that's more a hold over to the type of tech than an RPG term

[deep glen]

its a bit more sophisticated than instances.

its only an instance if its generated for you and your group/guild

else its not an instance.

[night grove]

Right

[foggy path]

Hmm 🤔

[deep glen]

at least, it was when I was working on an mmorpg way back in the early 2000's

[night grove]

Is it a word used in tabletop RPGs as well?

[deep glen]

iunnoanymore

[night grove]

I vaguely remember something synonymous with "missions" but now that you ask I can't think of it.

[foggy path]

levels, dungeons, maps, no idea tbh, I don't think I've ever heard a general purpose term for it or I forgot

[deep glen]

subworlds, sub locations, something like that

[foggy path]

they might have like a game specific lingo for it like "area" or something

[pearl elk]

not shards right cuz thats not locational

[deep glen]

fook it, imma call it sub-locations

[steel summit]

In racing games they're called "tracks", not worlds, not levels, not maps.

[deep glen]

(its for some internal doc)

[foggy path]

Racing games rarely have overworlds though :D

[pearl elk]

isnt that where you get sub sandwiches 😛

[deep glen]

hnng sub

master locations and sub locations

[night grove]

Only thing I can find is dungeon as in dungeon crawl: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DungeonCrawling

[steel summit]

I just find it funny how there's so many words for pretty much the same thing. No wonder why ESL people find English so difficult to learn at first.

[deep glen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/filmeditor-christmas-movies-1994-l0ErD3ZBW6vQgYCgE

[pearl elk]

sublevel is also like a basement

[night grove]

And yet there aren't enough words to describe things adequately in most forms of engineering

[deep glen]

wow, /giphy "whip" is spicey

[trail wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/castlevania-whipit-whip-gif-6563382

[steel summit]

My download for racing game The Crew 2 is done! I'm gonna go drive around in the ... track? world? level? map? instance? arena?

[night grove]

Racecourse

[deep glen]

vroomvroomzones

[pearl elk]

subverse

[night grove]

Did you find the term you were looking for? I've only heard of a term for "dungeons / underworld" where the players go to fight and loot. Then a separate term for "town / hub" where the players go to rest, get quests, and shop.

[deep glen]

i gave up looking for it as its 1-am-ish and still need to write more for an internal doc thingy

so went with overworld, locations, sub-locations

[pearl elk]

sublevel, trust me Im a professional

[night grove]

Burning the late night candle... Good luck!

[broken sigil]

Yeah I need to wake up 😐

[deep glen]

sublevel would work, but with other things already having the world level in it, i better avoid it

[pearl elk]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sublevel

its the correct architectural term 😛

blame all those other uses of level for being wrong

[deep glen]

in that case, the overworld has levels, and those levels have sublevels

[pearl elk]

there are levels to my levels

https://tenor.com/view/hornbach-macher-projekt-diy-renovieren-gif-18448973

[deep glen]

but what if those levels have a basement?

sublevel sublevel?

[pearl elk]

sublevels are actually between levels

[deep glen]

yo bro, i put a sublevel in your sublevel so you can sublevel while you sublevel

"let me level with you"

[pearl elk]

youre in your element

[deep glen]

aaaand now the world "level" means nothing to me anymore

it lost its power

[pearl elk]

english is like that

[night grove]

Level can also refer to character levels, sound levels, and others

[deep glen]

not sure wake up is the right word.
more like, unstuck yourself.

[deep glen]

hence

[pearl elk]

yeah cuz wake up is for when you go wake boarding

bit like surfs up

[deep glen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/7Ebk8dHTxEmvTWW20z

smurfs up

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/jolted-awake-lazy-smurf-the-smurfs-woke-up-abruptly-alarm-gif-23803110

lol they even use the term level for tree data structures

The level of a node is the number of edges along the unique path between it and the root node.[2]```

[foggy path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHKeIXnCpMc&list=PLqAev07EI8kqqXQ0kzxVmU1_jaViYKrnX

[deep glen]

oh god, we had those in dutch as well

[foggy path]

hell yeah

and yeah finnish as well

:P

[pearl elk]

it better be smurfs doing gabba

sounds almost like minions

[foggy path]

lol gabbasmurf sounds like a legit character

[deep glen]

ravesmurf

mellowsmurf

[broken sigil]

here have some mechs from 1850s

[deep glen]

@broken sigil you can submit images to generate on top of right?

[broken sigil]

You can give it image prompts
Basically doesn't exactly copy the image you provide, it takes it as inspiration

[deep glen]

hmm

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C3mvRm0aOY

[deep glen]

im looking for an image id like it to draw on top of, but cant fricking find it

[deep glen]

sweet btw

[broken sigil]

Have some dogs too, supposed to be holding a ban hammer 😅

[pearl elk]

that ban hammer looks delicious

[deep glen]

haha awww

@broken sigil is there a suggested resolution for reference images?

[broken sigil]

there is not, can be any resolution pretty sure

[deep glen]

can I puppy-eye you one more time?

no clue for tags though XD

"rpg battle scene" ?

[broken sigil]

Sure 😅

[deep glen]

I also decided to splurge some money that way so I can generate stuff myself, next month

[broken sigil]

It's amazing, 30$ is well worth it

[broken sigil]

lol

This is what I mean, it takes it more as inspiration

[deep glen]

like the middle 4, and on the 3rd the top right one.

but thanks, that gives me an understanding of how it deals with it

hugs

[broken sigil]

🫂

upscaling them

[deep glen]

I like how MJ seems to wanna play with lighting a lot

i like how they kinda feel like something or someone is rioting against knight overlords

[broken sigil]

Yeah haha

this was the prompt I used RPG battle scene::5 cinematic, dramatic, epic lighting::3 photo, photorealistic, unreal engine, octane render

and I gave it that image you sent as reference

[deep glen]

whats with the scene::5 and lighting::3 things?

[broken sigil]

RPG battle scene has the weight of 5 and cinematic, dramatic, epic lighting has the weight of 3
It's basically a way to give parts of the prompt different priority

[deep glen]

ahhhh

[night grove]

I wonder how it generates lighting. Surely it can't be using any lighting or spatial models.

[broken sigil]

the interesting thing is it can generate accurate reflections which is pretty nuts when you think about it

[night grove]

Woah

That's crazy

Must be voodoo

[deep glen]

imma be catching some zz's now. thanks for en-light-ening me Blueman.
badumtsss

[broken sigil]

at this point I'm convinced it is running on black magic

[broken sigil]

Good night 💤

[night grove]

For real

[deep glen]

for every image generated, it sacrifices one kitten

[broken sigil]

😅

[deep glen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-cute-kittens-40Fpxgn6Yq640

https://giphy.com/gifs/theoffice-season-1-the-office-tv-0VwKnH9W96meBS9NAv

[night grove]

That got dark fast

[broken sigil]

Oh look free fast GPU hours

[night grove]

The 3rd one in here isn't just weird in the neck. There is also a nose in the chest.

Somehow the model must be some kind of "rubber stamp sample" conglomerate thingy

[broken sigil]

yeah, it something does weird things with wider aspect ratios, this was 9:16

[night grove]

Makes me wonder how they feed the data model

Maybe they identify different image sources to be used for different stages of the image composition

"These images are good for epic / dynamic lighting"

[broken sigil]

yeah I'm not too sure

[pearl elk]

so how many birds have been saved by kitten sacrifices

[graceful sequoia]

not to sound too much like ryobg, but should we add an AI generated art channel

(goes back to playing hfw)

[thorny dock]

Add dalle mini to manny lol

[graceful sequoia]

!8ball manny do you want to become an AI artist?

[turbid spindle]

@graceful sequoia, :8ball: Yes – definitely.

[thorny dock]

!GenerateImage "A Pre Unreal Engine 5 mannequin holding a coconut drink while painting a picture of a post apocalyptic city being viewed from a cliffside, Rembrant oil painting"

[graceful sequoia]

/imagine the consequences

[thorny dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/989268324884049960/994779892296204338/Slim_A_Unreal_engine_4_mannequin_holding_a_coconut_drink_4e32df63-d4c5-4b09-b073-7c557513151f.png

Just checked my email, got into the MJ testing discord lol

[broken sigil]

Some tests with reflective spheres

[thorny dock]

What do the weights go up to? In the docs they are using 1-1.75, and you are using up to 5?

[broken sigil]

pretty sure they can go up to 10000
But when you submit the command they are normalized into the 0-1 range

[plucky pagoda]

FYI, in case you guys missed it. https://www.midjourney.com/app/users/(discordID) will bring up anyone's gallery

[broken sigil]

Yep, pretty sure you can only view someone's gallery if you are in the beta

[plucky pagoda]

Yeah.

You have to have access to the site.

[quasi mantle]

Dragons in cyberpunk

[regal pecan]

that is clearly a kaiju

[quasi mantle]

Good idea, player summoning them in the middle of the city and get to control them for limited time

[regal pecan]

Shoggoth breeding simulator

[broken sigil]

try using --uplight at the end of the prompt 😉

it's light upscaling, makes smoother images without adding too much noise

[pearl elk]

cookie monster ate elmo 😮

[plucky pagoda]

Elmo as a fried chicken dinner

[quasi mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/966491171142631444/994798210889568316/Ichinose_medieval_fantasy_woman_standing_on_cyberpunk_streets_a_1f2fff0d-ea0b-4e1b-bc45-bf6186491503.png

Imagining a "time warp" where someone from a medieval time ended up in a cyberpunk ish city (maybe I should try Blade Runner aesthetic)

||or is it?||

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smile-smirk-gif-18775562

[quasi mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/966491171142631444/994803953747374111/Ichinose_medieval_fantasy_woman_in_cyberpunk_streets_unreal_eng_5260f1e3-844d-48ea-8ff6-73c7a7207c84.png

[thorny dock]

would be willing to donate to a kickstarter buying manny a corporate plan for this server, when they eventually release bot integration lol

that would be fun, set the bot to always use the relax gpu time

[deep copper]

pfist had to stop !gameidea to work in the server so it would be spammed less

so i really don't think adding such addicting commands is a good idea

[queen tide]

hey there, i needed a bit of help with handling a circular dependency, can anyone come on VC?

[cursive crypt]

#ue5-general #ue4-general or whatever is the topic about.

[ancient ingot]

morning twerps

@cursive crypt how you doing mr ?

[cursive crypt]

With first letter uppercase, like that - Mr.

... or you mean merge requests?

[ancient ingot]

ok .. Mr 😛

our heatwave starts today :/

[quasi mantle]

mraz

[cursive crypt]

That kinda the opposite.

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-freezing-cold-shivering-glace-gif-5390133

[ancient ingot]

I prefer the cold

[severe hedge]

@stone saddle I finished the course that you told me to do and I did part one of pbr materials, should I go to part two which is advanced pbr materials?

[ancient ingot]

PBR is such fun

[severe hedge]

ye

[deep copper]

best part, pbr material knowledge can be transferred to other softwares

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/watermelon-bunny-rabbit-eating-gif-14492419

[ancient ingot]

♥️

[proud jay]

is this for the rabbit or for @deep copper

[ancient ingot]

neither, for the watermelon lol

[fleet tangle]

I'm sure the watermelon appreciates it.

[ancient ingot]

i hope so 😛

[deep copper]

i already got a thumb

from them

[proud jay]

I got two thumbs

from my parents

[deep copper]

your parents gave you thumbs ? 🤔

[proud jay]

yes

they created me

including my thumbs

[deep copper]

ah, maked sense

s*

[proud jay]

yes they also made my senses

[cursive crypt]

watermelons are da best

[deep copper]

also rip shinzo abe

[quasi mantle]

He's pronounced dead after that incident?

[deep copper]

yeah

[quasi mantle]

I mean, it's a fatal shot, but damn...

[deep copper]

2 shots, I don't know which body parts those are but yeah

[proud jay]

who

[timber viper]

first shot wasnt hit

[deep copper]

i guess "right side of his neck" sounds fatal too, but there's also a left clavicle"

[deep copper]

former PM of japan

[quasi mantle]

Japan's former prime minister

[proud jay]

oh

oh it's elections sunday

[deep copper]

july 10 was some election day it seems

41 yo shooter said "wasn't satisfied with him"

abe was 67 it seems

[proud jay]

yes

wild to kill him when he's not even active anymore

I mean, killing him either way would've been wild

[deep copper]

china apparently has some places calling shooter the hero it seems

[proud jay]

but he's not even in power anymore

[deep copper]

odd

he was giving a campaign speech it seems

[timber viper]

Shinzo Abe supported bringing nuclear weapons to Japan from USA and was an active supporter of East Turkestan against China

[deep copper]

so he was doing something idk

[quasi mantle]

Also it's wild that the shooter possessed a gun at all, in Japan.

Like, a real gun, not a dud replica

[deep copper]

some source said he self made the gun and had some background idk

[proud jay]

people are speculating the gun was home made

[deep copper]

not sure how credible these sources are

[quasi mantle]

Well, buying premade actual firearms is nigh impossible in Japan, so yeah

[deep copper]

sorry but, is Tukestan related to Türkiye?

[quasi mantle]

Kinda make sense with homebrew gun speculations

[proud jay]

It's an area of turkish people, but not the country turkey, more like ethnically

[deep copper]

i didn't know we can make guns at home, but it just needs to throw something fast enough so makes sense

[proud jay]

its like kazachstan turkmenistan and uzbekistan

however you write those in english

[quasi mantle]

Homebrew guns are less alien than you might think

[timber viper]

Uygur Turks living in there

[deep copper]

ah so it's something, in there

[quasi mantle]

Countries where guns are heavily regulated, terrorists found a way to craft the firearms by themselves

[deep copper]

sounds, unique 🤔

[proud jay]

those are the people that china is trying to eradicate in their modern concentration camps

but like very subtely

[deep copper]

so it's not always terrorists who get it from opposition countries huh

[quasi mantle]

Yes, and I use that term widely. Even less organised ones.

[deep copper]

why is china always upto erasing someone's existence xD

[proud jay]

#justchinathings

[quasi mantle]

Communism, that's why.

[timber viper]

Yeah, there actually numerous Turkish people define theirselves differently, but language and culture are very similar. Uygur Turks and countries Dieter said most known ones

[proud jay]

why live with people you disagree with if you can murder them

[quasi mantle]

#echochambergoals

[deep copper]

ah
and i love how you didn't try spelling those countries as well

[timber viper]

Biggest reason is number of people living there, they hold their culture and language so they are not possible to assimilate easily without being harsh

[deep copper]

i wonder what's its future like

[proud jay]

if people of india and china joined in hate gang, every person would only have to kill 2 other people and they would have the world for themselves

easy win

[deep copper]

the world suddenly sounds so much smaller

[timber viper]

Depends on how much China will gain power, but I expect some difficult times for China in next few years in terms of Uygur Turks problem

[deep copper]

are the uygur turks strong enough to resist them?

[proud jay]

no

[quasi mantle]

Though I feel like mainland China had many genuine hardcore patriots, at least judging by Weibo toxicity (which I say is equivalent to western Twitter)

[proud jay]

https://www.facinghistory.org/educator-resources/current-events/targeting-uighur-muslims-china

[timber viper]

%70 of Uyghur Turks already locked up in prison camps

Only newborns and elders are roaming around villages

And cities are full of Chinese people

[proud jay]

and they're sterilizing them to make sure there's no new ones

[deep copper]

poor guys

[timber viper]

If you visit there you'll see dancing Chinese people a lot, some journalists say government hire them specifically to make city look happy and peaceful

Only in villages that are in poor conditions you'll see some Turks and they'll be old

[proud jay]

the chinese govt really does some weird shit for their international image

which is just obviously so fake

but no one does anything about it cause of economic dependency

[timber viper]

They dont need to convince anyone if you control the world trade and have gigantic amount of economic power

[proud jay]

having your people work for slave wages is very handy for international economy

[quasi mantle]

BTW I hate it everytime I have to mess with UMG curve editor

[proud jay]

real editors have curves

[quasi mantle]

That dreaded tab

[ancient ingot]

I'm sad now, Abe was really nice, at least from a U.K perspective. And for him to be shot, in Japan, that's just crazy too.

[deep copper]

yeah, i always thought he was a nice guy, he also looks loving

dunno how people really see him, though

[foggy path]

Japan has weird fringe elements

Who knows what motivated the guy who shot him

At least it wasn't another Aum Shinrikyo :P

[proud jay]

how the fuck did the flemish public newspaper write 4 articles on boris johnson today alone

pls

who has the time to read this

[foggy path]

did he get his buddy Murdoch to try and help him out?

[proud jay]

also already 3 articles on shinzo

all published in the span of 41 minutes

now this is the news I like to see /s

[foggy path]

lol

[proud jay]

F

[deep glen]

first time ever I had the number of lines correct

[proud jay]

imagine accidentally adding a few extra digits and destroying lounge entirely

[deep glen]

yea, i wouldnt dare

<_<

[quasi mantle]

How many digits?

10^nice-1

[deep glen]

its like the timeout command

its in milliseconds

I either add not enough zeroes, or too many

never exactly the amount i want

!timeout @proud jay 1

[proud jay]

😮

[deep glen]

oh, its actually gone

XD

[timber viper]

Multiple industry experts criticised some of my design choices in the tokens system I released recently, and I need to refactor too many things. I wonder if I should update completely refactored version of it and prove I'm unable to provide consistency from the beginning or just leave it be and never update again 😅

You dont hold a changelog either 🤔

Not publicly*

or am I blind

very public:

are release notes are a part of commit messages?

ohh

yeah

i see now

they dont call me git noob for no reason

[quasi mantle]

Git gud bruh

You need the Souls edition of Git

[proud jay]

why have you still not aliased git gud

[devout karma]

posting this again because it still makes me giggle and #cpp is not lounging atm

the red-cross branch is wild, man

[proud jay]

this is DOOM

engine

[devout karma]

oh right you weren't there yesterday

[proud jay]

wasn't it this morning?

am I tripping?

[devout karma]

my sleep schedule is 🙃

[quasi mantle]

As expected from a programmer

[proud jay]

you sleep schedule doesn't dictate when a day starts though

but it can depend on timezone so I forgive you

[devout karma]

well my day ends at 4:00 AM and starts at 7:00 AM

[timber viper]

earth is flat

[quasi mantle]

3 hrs of sleep?

[proud jay]

that's how he retains maximum toxicity levels

[devout karma]

see now you're getting it

[quasi mantle]

I wasn't even able to stay awake for 24 hours without emotional damage

[proud jay]

a 50 hour what

couldn't read whole message 😭

we had this charity thing of 24 hours of sporting in high school

[timber viper]

do you see how it's like now

[proud jay]

when I got home I was awake for 38 hours so I was like guess I should sleep

and I slept for like 2 hours and just continued with life lol

those were the days

[cursive crypt]

#cpp degenerates

Patreon for freshes and juices

Sleep lectures.

It is a pleasant smell ☣️

[proud jay]

👀
👃
👄

[timber viper]

when async tasks become externally cancellable

[ancient ingot]

where is Hevedy

[proud jay]

@median wraith

[timber viper]

AsyncTask->Cancel(); // cancels the task without cooperation without causing any errors and dangers

[proud jay]

where is dragonHell

[ancient ingot]

where is god

[proud jay]

that's what I just said

[timber viper]

@dragonHell

[ancient ingot]

lol

[timber viper]

real question is do god use coroutines or not

[devout karma]

a few more highlights from actor.h

MF8_FRIGHTENING		= 0x00000001,	// for those moments when halloween just won't do

RF_INVISIBLE		= 0x8000,
RF_MAYBEINVISIBLE	= 0x02000000,

// Centaurs and ettins squeal when electrocuted, poisoned, or "holy"-ed
// Made a metadata property so no longer virtual
void Howl ();

// Make this actor hate the same things as another actor
void CopyFriendliness (AActor *other, bool changeTarget, bool resetHealth=true);

// Die. Now.
bool Massacre ();

int16_t PainChance;
int PainThreshold;

bool isFast();
bool isSlow();

[timber viper]

real questions is do dragonHell use coroutines or not

[timber viper]

// Die. Now.

why it returns bool with that amount of confidince

Die!! now!! if returns true

[cursive crypt]

This is funny the 1st time in your code. Then it becomes a pain.

[timber viper]

do dragonHell use arch btw

[quasi mantle]

What version is this?

[proud jay]

GZDoom

[devout karma]

no this is fulfilling the implement all of Doom 1 in AActor meme

[timber viper]

sounds like windows 11

or 7

[cursive crypt]

ATMs are on 7

[timber viper]

i thought you were implying 8 was also good

7 is ofc good

[devout karma]

the legacyness~~ extends to the scripting lang too, believe it or not. can't look for examples on mobile, but there's some interesting decisions there

[cursive crypt]

Win11 is too regular, he would be on 12

[devout karma]

did you know the ll in dragonHell actually stands for 11?

[ancient ingot]

😮 no way

[timber viper]

are you Miguel

[devout karma]

Migue1

[ancient ingot]

@sand oxide who are you?

[timber viper]

half of the god

[devout karma]

excuse you that's @1aura actually

[ancient ingot]

lol

[proud jay]

Microsoft CEC, chief executive cruncher

[quasi mantle]

Windows 7 is good because of the Aero glass

[proud jay]

should apply to MSFT just for the memes

[ancient ingot]

@deep glen hey you deleted my perfect analysis of Kim Kardashian!

[timber viper]

can you hire me to Microsoft?

I want to work on VS

I cant make it more terrible than it is

[quasi mantle]

Why not JetBrains? You'll double duty as their evangelist

[timber viper]

like its a setting in a .ini file

[quasi mantle]

Hell yeah

[timber viper]

they don't crunch, they are polite, peaceful and collaborative

[devout karma]

oh yeah, one more. fellas, you ever need bitflags?

[quasi mantle]

They paid their evangelist so well

[deep copper]

what if they are a spy of jetbrains sabotaging vs

[timber viper]

I rather struggle, pain and totalitarian regimes under mobbing and physicological torture

[quasi mantle]

To the point that they (allegedly) have Wikipedia editor focusing on JetBrains page

[devout karma]

oh God gif machine woke up run away

[timber viper]

Didn't surprise

I wonder if they (would) hire you will you close your account here since battletoad will doxx you know your identity

[deep copper]

isn't their identity already known as laura?

[timber viper]

make JB debugger great again

[timber viper]

a few days ago when VS failed to evaluate something JB was easily did

[devout karma]

God forbid we have to start signing with our discord handles

[timber viper]

#cpp message

[deep copper]

just an e-signature ?

"the person signing this contract is our employee"

[quasi mantle]

Imagine getting paid for manipulating Wikipedia pages

[deep copper]

does wiki has some , point system? like without enough points you can't edit high level pages

or something

[quasi mantle]

Yes, to some extent, with the contribution count

[deep copper]

so the more you add and get away with it, the more you can add

[timber viper]

When I was 10 years old I wrote tons of insults and bad words to wiki and it stayed for one year there, no one noticed

[deep copper]

.. and after an year?

[timber viper]

i realized it was gone

no idea when its exactly removed

but at least stayed 6 months

[deep copper]

which page did you edit btw xD

[timber viper]

Some historical person

that I can't recall

I wrote "if you dont like this guy go f# y# you m# p# o# s"

[deep copper]

probably why no one noticed xD

[ancient ingot]

According to a research paper published in Nature, astronomers detected a “really weird” object 4,000 lightyears distant from Earth. Every other minute, the object vanishes from view and produces a massive burst of radio waves three times an hour.
ALIENS!!!!!

[timber viper]

source?

[ancient ingot]

https://siamtoo.com/8095/

[quasi mantle]

Going to call BS on that one lmao

[timber viper]

BS
Marketing

[quasi mantle]

But yeah, I already have suspicions on JB with those kind of writing

[deep copper]

let's send something back and wait for 4000 years!!

[timber viper]

you go first

and let us know

[ancient ingot]

sure, ill just fire up my transmitter.............

[deep copper]

i would die not even halfway

[quasi mantle]

I guess it worked

[timber viper]

Corpo tactics

[quasi mantle]

Inb4 someone made oldskool propaganda poster for JetBrains

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-of-clans-hog-rider-minecraft-pig-hog-gif-18667885

[zinc matrix]

feels like everyone at the opensea is buying their own art to fake sales

and only the big sales make it

and reddit is full of bots and spammers

rip

😄

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-simpsons-spiderpig-whatever-does-gif-22373180

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/schwein-ferkel-kreislauf-pigs-running-run-around-gif-16588472

[ancient ingot]

no words...............

[slate drift]

You fasting today?

[quasi mantle]

I did

[slate drift]

Big man

I feel attacked looking at #food

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-ham-introduce-here-i-am-cartoon-spider-man-gif-12972026

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/ham-jambon-its-hamgiving-thanksgiving-gif-15681870

[amber reef]

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/07/video-game-industry-not-recession-proof-sales-set-to-fall-in-2022.html

gaming is over 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯

[proud jay]

I mean, pandemic boosted sales extremely

and now with inflation and shit people have less purchasing power in general

gaming is a luxury

[cursive crypt]

I wonder about ppl who have 100 unplayed games in their lib and still wondering what to play.

[proud jay]

that's me

[cursive crypt]

m2

Sounds like a good time to check out them. For whoever is playing.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/grand-theft-auto-grand-theft-auto-v-grand-theft-auto-online-gta-gta-v-gif-21853217

[deep copper]

reddit, or literally most self promotion platforms are the same for starters

[quasi mantle]

This would be a good painting for an oldskool prog rock album

[zinc matrix]

yeah, or some acid stuff

[deep copper]

are you also paying for midjourney?

[zinc matrix]

yeah

run out of fast hours, but won some more

[proud jay]

mdma pill lsd surreal

are you planning a trip

oh that first one is also lsd

[zinc matrix]

nah

[proud jay]

you seem to have an obsession

[zinc matrix]

i just use those tags

drug art is awesome

but drugs are bad

😛

[deep copper]

so drugs aren't nsfw or pg-13+ 🤔

[zinc matrix]

it's art

the pill design

[zinc matrix]

it can be candy and it looks like candy lol

[quasi mantle]

Let's be real, you won't get scolded just looking at drugs as a kid

[deep copper]

that does makes more sense

[quasi mantle]

Drugs are completely safe for work. Some would even enhance work

[ancient ingot]

lol

[noble plaza]

This chain reminds me I have some 2C-B 😄

[quasi mantle]

Stuff like caffeine, amphetamines, etc.

[deep copper]

and you !

[noble plaza]

LSD is wacky, writes off a day or two with a few hundred micrograms. Thank fuck it's not more toxic than it is, or imagine the OD potential

[deep copper]

chemicals are so weird

[quasi mantle]

Also cocaine Coca Cola

[noble plaza]

Cocaine and adderall are basically single-handedly responsible for us having chefs and doctors I swear

[deep copper]

chefs?

[zinc matrix]

kitchen problems

true

[noble plaza]

Most chefs I've known would spend like 60-100 hours a week at work, most of it not too sober... Apparently coke is very common among chefs for some reason

[proud jay]

yeah especially in the UK

[quasi mantle]

I used to have a daily dose of energy drink lol

[proud jay]

it's insane

only drugs I do is coffee and alcohol

[deep copper]

wait then doctors...?

[proud jay]

not together though

[noble plaza]

This isn't even in the UK 😐 I've heard it's like 5-10x more expensive here, so RIP rent

[quasi mantle]

Things like Red Bull, used to drink those every day back then

[noble plaza]

Adderall and the likes, super common study 'supplements'

At uni we had medicine and... aviation students that would always have spare ones on hand haha

[zinc matrix]

phenibut also

[deep copper]

is that why their places smell weird xD

[deep copper]

did you got wings?

[noble plaza]

Maybe, does impair your sense of smell. Though it may just be the uh, study from home material

[proud jay]

gordon ramsey even did a documentary on cocaine since it's so common for UK chefs

[quasi mantle]

Only got one half of it.

And a super long katana

[proud jay]

look at them actually making cocaine with battery acid https://youtu.be/0oXabRYcXhc

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-chef-its-raw-hells-kitchen-the-flavors-are-there-gif-15204016

[noble plaza]

When game dev goes wrong
https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/vtk73f/tifu_by_making_my_fiancé_second_guess_our/

[proud jay]

best part of this "she started saying she knew it"

imagine your fiance thinking you're gay

[noble plaza]

Pretty sure my partner's more into Pink than she'll ever be into me 😄

The story sounds like a lot of insecurity though

[quasi mantle]

Also Red Bull predecessor is named Krating Daeng

[noble plaza]

I've had it! Or at least the modern one, it's like Thai or Indo I think?

[quasi mantle]

Correct!

[proud jay]

your partner needs to go see a psychologist

[noble plaza]

Why? 😅
I mean she does, but not because of Pink

[proud jay]

how could you be more obsessed with a celebrity you'll never meet than with your partner you spend your days with

[deep copper]

they are probably not all too open with each other then ig

[deep copper]

all this time, thinking you both are talking about a color... xD

[noble plaza]

For the same reason people tend to travel far-away places more than their own country or broad region. I mean I'm not 100% serious either, but she's pretty into Pink. It's a different kind of 'infatuation' than a relationship would involve.

[devout karma]

good use of your and you're :)

no reason just felt like saying it

[proud jay]

thanks

[quasi mantle]

Being in parasocial relationship myself, well, I can't say anything tbh

[deep copper]

nice, now dieter made you more insecure about it xD

[quasi mantle]

I mean, it would be too hypocrite of me to talk about her and her obsession to Pink

[noble plaza]

Nah I'm 0% insecure about it. Perks of dating someone bi is you won against 100% more competition lol

Like every one she has her qualities and faults, and that goes down as a fault. It's a minor one relative to some of the other people I've dated...

[quasi mantle]

Unless you mean this pink

[noble plaza]

It's just... Most people grow out of their celebrity crushes, she never did. At least she's not psycho 🤷

[deep copper]

it might be admiration or something

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-cartoon-krang-krang-body-krang-robot-gif-23010103

[quasi mantle]

I wonder what a lesser "weeb" woman would think of me once I have a work space that is also an anime altar

[deep copper]

atleast they don't hide it from you or something, that's saying a lot

[noble plaza]

I don't know, I've never complained about it to her so I feel like it's unfair of me to complain about it too. It's not really a biggie, more a weird quirk

[noble plaza]

The opposite, she'll show me an Insta post by Pink and be like "she's like the hottest person ever", and I'm like uh yeah, sure lol

[proud jay]

inb4 she asks you to dress up like Pink in the bedroom

[quasi mantle]

Depends on who you ask

[deep copper]

yeah that sounds way healthier form of obsession

[quasi mantle]

Me? I think so.

I'm more on the higher tier

[proud jay]

implying a woman would ever enter your workspace

[deep copper]

knowing about it
watching it
watching a series and every followup of it
having wallpaper of anime
owning a poster
owning a statue
a pillow
etc

[noble plaza]

Tight spandex and long hair? Halfway there, and I'll look like an 80s metal artist. I'm in

[proud jay]

yourself doesn't count

[quasi mantle]

I haven't seen any good idolmaster pillow ngl
Most I can find is a 1:1 stand, which is very difficult to come across.

[proud jay]

pls

no pillow tier

[deep copper]

i have no idea what a 1:1 stand is

[proud jay]

don't take away your parents' last hope for grandchildren

[quasi mantle]

Maybe the nerdy stuff like computers, devkits, and anime merch dieter them?

[deep copper]

they might have nft children in the future with ai waifu!

[proud jay]

true

[quasi mantle]

Basically a cutout stand of the character, to scale.

[proud jay]

the character in question being danny devito?

[noble plaza]

Relationships are harder to find than hookups IMO, or at least nice relationships. Online dating can be rough

[deep copper]

those where you put your face in the hole to take a pic?

[quasi mantle]

e.g. a character is 159 cm tall, that'd be the height of the stand

[quasi mantle]

No.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/pillow-pad-gif-15952537

[quasi mantle]

It's just something to put upright.

[deep copper]

so just, like a cardboard stand cutout?

[proud jay]

those where you put your p*nis in the hole to take a pic?

[deep copper]

what kind of pic are we talking about here

[quasi mantle]

Something like this, yea
(Not my pic, but I do wish to have something like this as backdrop for my workspace)

[noble plaza]

Yikes

[proud jay]

very strange reply to a statue

[quasi mantle]

(spot Makoto and you win absolutely nothing)

[deep copper]

middle black hair!

[proud jay]

you just assume I know who makoto is

[deep copper]

the pfp of makoto is makoto

[proud jay]

one day I will play P5

when I have 300 hours to spare

[deep copper]

play it like a loan, 5 mins daily

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/shion-fumo-yorigami-shion-yorigami-beanie-gif-23589732

[quasi mantle]

I can name them from left to right:
Mami Futami
Yayoi Takatsuki (obscured by Mami)
Haruka Amami
Makoto Kikuchi
Takane Shijou
Miki Hoshii

[deep copper]

i was right!

[proud jay]

it's included with base ps+ which I have, so don't even need to buy it

[proud jay]

don't tell this to the women entering your workspace maybe

[quasi mantle]

What if I tell her anyway?

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/iisreset-iis-reset-qa-iisreset-gif-24086148

[deep copper]

"so what are these"
"i don't know, i have never seen them in my entire life"

[proud jay]

indeed

[quasi mantle]

"So what are these?"
proceeds to talk about idolmaster for 10 minutes straight

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/spidercat-spiderman-gif-18817671

[quasi mantle]

"I make games"

[deep copper]

atleast you have something to talk about then, and if they can handle it, you know they can handle you in the future

dieter had a long job name

[quasi mantle]

That's a good way to think about it

[deep copper]

just be prepared to handle whatever they are into as well

otherwise they will see you as a chore

[proud jay]

not really, just software engineer

on the backend for supply chain planning solution software though

[deep copper]

did you write that long thing just to confuse me !!!

[proud jay]

"I make software"

[deep copper]

well you succeeded

[quasi mantle]

If you don't love me at my weeb-ness, you don't deserve me at my kindness

[proud jay]

not sure what long thing you're talking about tbh

is it in my notes?

[foggy path]

NFT is an acronym of three words though 🤔

[deep copper]

it is

[proud jay]

so what was it

[deep copper]

dev of service for backend supply chain planning solutions

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-gnu-newlinuxsystem-debian-pisilinux-gif-25832929

[quasi mantle]

Nmulti Flevel Tmarketing

[proud jay]

well that is correct

[proud jay]

that's what I said

[quasi mantle]

Not to mention I play drums ocassionally

Of course I'd have a drum kit in my work space

[proud jay]

I have 2 drum sets that I haven't used in years

[deep copper]

if you can drum on those idol master cutouts (not hard, just like electronically or something so soft) that would be cool!

[deep copper]

yes, it's taking huge space in my notes

[quasi mantle]

Well, I can play several Idolmaster songs (sometimes with a twist of Phil Collins or Neil Peart thrown in)

[proud jay]

does your personality also have a non-weeb side or is this it?

[deep copper]

interesting:thinkingf

:*

[quasi mantle]

Probably 90% of me is my weeb side

[proud jay]

I always wondered how people became weebs

I get watching anime

but like that level of obsession

how do you reach it

[quasi mantle]

It snowballed from Naruto, back in early 2010s.

[proud jay]

when are you planning to move to japan

[quasi mantle]

Someday™️

[deep copper]

disliking irl people around you helps i think

[quasi mantle]

My visit destinations would be Akihabara and Shizuoka

[proud jay]

you forgot a waifu stop

you need to go pick up your bride

[deep copper]

i only know of kyoto and tokyo

[proud jay]

I know Osaka exists

and tsushima island

[deep copper]

actually i only knew tokyo, but kyoto was just a flip

[proud jay]

nagasaki

[deep copper]

hiroshima!

[quasi mantle]

Well... I mentioned Shizuoka for a reason

[proud jay]

Virgo

not for long after your visit 😏

oh no

the fact that you took 159cm as an example height for the statue...

[quasi mantle]

I'm 177cm

Fairly short for western standard

[proud jay]

makoto needs to eat some more man

[noble plaza]

Specifying boob dimensions for a 17 year old, even if fictional, is a bit...

[noble plaza]

That's below average in like 4 countries in the world m8, you good

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2aKtAW4fIqA

[proud jay]

are you gonna celebrate her birthday

[noble plaza]

Stay away from Netherlands and Australia I guess hah

[quasi mantle]

Well yes of course

[proud jay]

just below male average for belgium

[noble plaza]

Yeah but BeNeLux is pretty up there in average heights

[proud jay]

thanks

[quasi mantle]

||I did the same for my original game project||

[proud jay]

actually 13 countries with average male height above 177cm

the statistics are weirdly listed on wiki

it's more than that

ok this list is shit

[noble plaza]

I mean Montenegro, 'Dinaric Alps', Iceland, a few country-cities... Weird list

[proud jay]

this makes more sense https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-height-by-country

[noble plaza]

If you could list countries (considering Montenegro and Iceland), that list would be full of 180+ everywhere in European cities

[quasi mantle]

||The main character of my game, Nala, is 87-55-82||

[proud jay]

the important part is, I'm taller than the average belgian male

[noble plaza]

Gravity shall not be kind

[deep copper]

wasn't that done so figurine makers or other replacation stuff that needs size works?

[proud jay]

pls stop talking about underage boobs

[quasi mantle]

Yes, I programmed that.

[deep copper]

just move to a country where it's not underage!

[proud jay]

https://tenor.com/view/traffic-fbi-open-up-raid-gif-13450966

[deep copper]

i need to recheck what my height was

[proud jay]

was or is

[deep copper]

was, because I don't recall what it was

[noble plaza]

I'd like to not be detained in airports lol

[deep copper]

i don't want to remeasure it

[quasi mantle]

(actually it's just anim dynamics in anim BP to give jiggle physics - the problem is that it won't react to hands that well)

[proud jay]

pls

no putting hands on underage boob

are you making hentai

[quasi mantle]

No, just a title that I intend to have PEGI 18/ESRB Mature rating

[proud jay]

let me know when it releases so I can avoid it

jk I'll never see it, I have anime tag blocked on Steam

[quasi mantle]

No need to think about it.

[deep copper]

relax, if it's like those idol animes it probably doesn't have a dude in it

so it's probably their own hands!

[quasi mantle]

I know some would dietered to anime style, even if the story is quite mature (as in bringing up stuff like mental health) and gameplay is more serious

[topaz depot]

very interesting and high quality conversation y'all

[noble plaza]

#lounge-nsfw when

[deep copper]

as always!

[noble plaza]

Bonk all the anime peeps

[proud jay]

https://tenor.com/view/woman-of-culture-gif-20099443

[topaz depot]

unreal slackers never fail to impress

[quasi mantle]

Actually it'll be an action RPG, there'll be male characters, but since I can't write dating sim, I won't put much unscripted romance.

[proud jay]

if it makes you happy, you do you man

[deep copper]

dieter counts as cpp

[topaz depot]

mhm

[noble plaza]

Honestly the moment I see overly sexualised anime characters I check out. Feels like half of them are thirst traps with OK mechanics.

I'm sure I've missed some good games, but my backlog isn't getting any smaller.

[quasi mantle]

The romance will be as far as "here's two character, they're friends for long, they're going to date"

[proud jay]

||

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[quasi mantle]

Kinda like Final Fantasy 8 but with osananajimi twist

[proud jay]

of course

classic osananajimi

[noble plaza]

Ah yeah that classic thing

[proud jay]

can't have romance without jimmy

[quasi mantle]

幼なじみ

[deep copper]

yeah, and it all depends on how detailed the date scene is 🤔

[noble plaza]

Sounds like a football player - Jimmy Osanana

[deep copper]

osananajimi?

[proud jay]

makes sense

[quasi mantle]

I feel like it would be easier for me to just write scripted romance than unscripted. Unscripted romance would be difficult to follow up as well

[quasi mantle]

Childhood friend romance

[deep copper]

how can any romance be unscripted in a game 🤔

[quasi mantle]

Well, "unscripted" in a sense that players can date to characters they want

[proud jay]

clearly your game doesn't run a neural network on the web3.0 blockchain basing its behaviour on NFTs

[quasi mantle]

I just can't write dating sim without continuity issues

Maybe someday I'll write one, but not this time

[proud jay]

I just can't write dating sim without disappointing my parents

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-faden-control-video-game-gif-15652036

[quasi mantle]

Sell them for 10 bucks on steam, that'll make your parents proud

[proud jay]

sell my parents on steam?

[quasi mantle]

Though at the same time I feel like dating sims are basically visual novels and they're rather boring to play, especially for those with ADHD.

[topaz depot]

even if u write a dating sim as ur own dating history?

[quasi mantle]

I'm thinking of giving twist to it, maybe using PS1 RPG style.

To The Moon was a (pseudo) visual novel, but the RPG Maker mechanics gives me long play time.

[noble plaza]

Have to have dated first for that 😛

[proud jay]

ah yeah, the classic ps1 triangle boobs

[topaz depot]

😈

[quasi mantle]

[zinc matrix]

milf dating sim would be nice 😼

[quasi mantle]

Wasn't there one already? I forgot the title tho

[zinc matrix]

idk

[proud jay]

there's dating sims for everything

[zinc matrix]

most are anime

[proud jay]

pretty popular pigeon dating sim as well

[zinc matrix]

i played sakura santa last time

[quasi mantle]

The one that Devolver Digital published?

[proud jay]

yes

[quasi mantle]

Sakura VNs?

[zinc matrix]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/421700/Sakura_Santa/

Steam

Sakura Santa

Koji is feeling a bit down. This year is the first Christmas he's spending alone. After moving away from home to attend the University of his dreams, he found his college life to be rather lonely. Feeling distraught, he wanders to his local shrine to make an offering. His wish is a simple one:"I want to have someone to spend Christmas with this...

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[quasi mantle]

Ugh, that series.

I kinda not liking it

[proud jay]

not enough underage dating options for you?

[quasi mantle]

For different reason.
I'm somewhat picky when it comes to character writing

Like often times in dating sims the MC is either Gary Stu type or Mary Sue type, and the dates don't have much mental substance to it.

[proud jay]

they just don't get the complexity of dating someone intelligent like makoto

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

only 22 more minutes of pretending like I'm working

[quasi mantle]

Writing dating sim is easy

Writing dating sim that has more substance is anything but

The dates have to have a solid reason to date the MC, and have their own goals as well.

[noble plaza]

[H] UTC +10 [W] UTC +0.

Premier League is starting back up soon, RIP sleep schedule

[zinc matrix]

I gotta pretend like I’m working for another 2 hours 20 minutes so I can go home and actually do the fun part of my day which is making game

[quasi mantle]

"Why do I want to date this guy?" "What am I seeking for myself?" "How does my past influence my dating decisions?" "Who else I have a liking towards?"

I feel like those can add more substance to dating sim, compared to just "I want to date this guy just because the script told me to do so, no questions"

[proud jay]

"he's rich" "money" "I'm poor" "doctors"

[steel summit]

I once asked @turbid spindle for a game idea using !gameidea and it suggested I make a napkin simulator…. 😂

[zinc matrix]

That latter chunk is almost all dating games lol

[zinc matrix]

So toast but napkin

[proud jay]

sound interesting

[zinc matrix]

We don’t wanna know what’s going on with that napkin lol napkins aren’t just used for cleaning

[proud jay]

need to make gold digger sim

you clean your house with napkins?

[zinc matrix]

That’s just called California like 70 years ago

[zinc matrix]

No I clean my face

[quasi mantle]

Hence my unliking towards few dating sims, particularly those on Steam that just sell on the suggestive key artworks

[steel summit]

You ARE the napkin

[zinc matrix]

I don’t wanna be a napkin know what I use napkins for

[steel summit]

😆

[quasi mantle]

Though to be fair, writing dating sim with these questions in mind is not an easy task

[steel summit]

Funny thing is, I bet people would still buy that

[zinc matrix]

Yeah this is why I don’t play dating games other then the fact that I’m not that depressed and lonely lol

[carmine frigate]

that pidgeon dating sim was pretty big

[crisp rose]

humans have weird an irrational reasons to do things sometimes

[zinc matrix]

Including napkin simulator

[steel summit]

Also there’s a good sequel ready to be made “Paper Towel Simulator: No Spill is Too Big”

[zinc matrix]

That would make a awesome game jam

[noble plaza]

Especially Germans and their obsession with every simulation game

[quasi mantle]

Pidgeon dating sim is self aware humour, and published by Devolver of all companies.

[zinc matrix]

Making a simulator off random household objects

[carmine frigate]

i didnt play it myself, but i know its out there

[quasi mantle]

I'd appreciate sense of depth when digging through their reasoning, as opposed to blank slate with busty proportions

[zinc matrix]

I mean I won’t complain about the proportions XD

But that’s what the internet’s for

[quasi mantle]

As much as I'm perverted when it comes to writing and fictional taste, I'm still rather picky.

[crisp rose]

what i was trying to say is that it can be any reason, it will not make sense to everybody anyway (im not good with words lol)

[zinc matrix]

Same here

Anyways space games are pretty cool

[quasi mantle]

I should try No Man's Sky one day

[zinc matrix]

It’s really good

At launch it sucked but it really improved over time

[quasi mantle]

At the same time Starfield reeks

[fleet tangle]

Star Citizen is still a buggy POS

[zinc matrix]

Starfields gonna be fucking awesome

Then again I’m a sucker for space games and Bethesda games

[quasi mantle]

Pfft, Star Citizen is never complete, just sucking money

[zinc matrix]

Star citizens gonna be a choppy mess for ever lol

[steel summit]

Star Citizen is still a multi million buggy POS.
Fixed it for you.

[zinc matrix]

It’s such a good concept but so choppy

[fleet tangle]

Is starfield MP?

[quasi mantle]

Good concept with questionable business model

[zinc matrix]

Because some kid stole there moms credit card and bought the 1000 dollar starter kit

[zinc matrix]

Idk it would be cool if it was but I doubt it is

[quasi mantle]

Supposedly SP only

[zinc matrix]

Bethesda makes good single player games though

Let’s see

Elder scrolls

[fleet tangle]

Guess Bethesda is a 10/10, but only makes SP games.

[zinc matrix]

Fallout

Lmao

[zinc matrix]

Well there’s elder scrolls online

And doom eternal has a crappy multiplayer

[quasi mantle]

I feel like Starfield still didn't know where it wanted to go story wise

No, but one of ZeniMax studios

I think they used a different engine for ESO

[zinc matrix]

Thought it was Bethesda since elder scrolls is owned by betheseda

[zinc matrix]

So something not a buggy mess like Skyrim

[quasi mantle]

Well, what owned by Bethesda is in turn owned by ZeniMax

[zinc matrix]

Where with the help of a friend I got the ebony blade in my first 10 minutes on my switch run of Skyrim lol

[zinc matrix]

Ah ok

[quasi mantle]

Bethesda Game Studios (R&D) -> Bethesda Softworks (Publishing) -> ZeniMax (parent company, more like holding)

[zinc matrix]

Ah ok

[proud jay]

-> Microsoft

[zinc matrix]

Yeah

Tbh I’m still kinda ticked off over Microsoft buying Bethesda

[quasi mantle]

Kept forgetting ZeniMax owned by MS

[zinc matrix]

Just cause most games from them are gonna be Xbox and pc exclusives

[quasi mantle]

I'm ticked off more on ActiBlizz bought by MS

[zinc matrix]

And idk if I’ll have enough ram to play starfield lol

[proud jay]

it's not exclusive really if it's on 2 platforms

[zinc matrix]

Actiblizz needed it

Cods a mess

[zinc matrix]

It’s only on windows pcs

[proud jay]

everything is a mess

[zinc matrix]

Which is owned buy Microsoft

[quasi mantle]

Well, both Xbox and Windows owned by MS, so exclusive in that sense

[zinc matrix]

Cause I doubt star field is going to go on steam tbh

[proud jay]

but a lot of pc games are windows only

[zinc matrix]

Yeah cause Linux and mac aren’t great and nobody’s playing games on a rasberry pi

[quasi mantle]

Agree, native Linux port is still far and few in between

[proud jay]

makes sense

such low player base

[quasi mantle]

Linux is getting better these days tho

[proud jay]

so much diversity

so many bugs

[quasi mantle]

Particularly Steam Deck

[zinc matrix]

Yeah tho mac is gonna need a lot to be decent

[zinc matrix]

The perfect handheld

Even better then the switch

[proud jay]

than

[quasi mantle]

Gaming on Mac is kind of a joke

[zinc matrix]

Fax

So is gaming on a rasberry pi lol

[quasi mantle]

Better because you don't need to ask nintendo for SDK

[zinc matrix]

There’s actually Minecraft for the rasberry pi

[zinc matrix]

Fax

Nintendo games are definitely quality when good ones for there main franchises release

Like Pokémon mario and legend of Zelda

[quasi mantle]

RasPi is okay for native games and emulators, just not x86 games

[zinc matrix]

Fair

It’s prob better then mac lol

[quasi mantle]

I think the original Unreal still struggle through Box86 in Pi

[zinc matrix]

Speaking of old unreal I played a game based in unreal 1

It was so bad