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nova herald
foggy path
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Yeah lack of prefabs builtin is annoying in some cases

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and yet you get people telling you JUST USE COMPONETNSJ NDGFSKDFJN

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:P

fleet tangle
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What AI is this?

quasi mantle
fleet tangle
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Ah ha.

violet ruin
regal pecan
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Was expecting UE2.

fleet tangle
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I was expecting the 3rd iteration to just be more fog

bronze axle
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People love their emoji.

cursive crypt
left granite
quasi mantle
broken sigil
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How long did you have to wait to get access
I applied but I have a feeling I'm gonna be waiting for a looong time

bronze axle
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Soon.™️

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But like very soon. I'm coding the last command.

graceful sequoia
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What The Hell

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you need nitro for animated emojis????

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discord why

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ugghhhhh

tulip orbit
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money

graceful sequoia
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it is hilarious that the discord mobile nitro purchase flow is fully broken

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just completely doesn't work

quasi mantle
graceful sequoia
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ahnmmmmm

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could've seen that coming

zinc matrix
graceful sequoia
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maybe if they aren't a little more time making payment options work and a little less time on the animated rumble effects during the payment process, they wouldn't need to gate so many features around nitro

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I swear to God discord is going to fail due to their stupidity

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at least I get a pink name out of this crap

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There

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@bronze axle thank you for emoji party_manny

bronze axle
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You actually get a lot for Nitro these days.

graceful sequoia
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yeah I can customize my profile here which is nice I guess

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I'll get my money's worth when I'm back at my desktop

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because both editing your server specific bio and editing your avatar do not work on discord for Android

trail wedge
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good, I hope they start removing mobile features; get more people to stop using their phones

trail wedge
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phones are just the worst possible computer to use for most things

regal pecan
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Tablets.

graceful sequoia
trail wedge
graceful sequoia
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phones are meant for...

regal pecan
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Phablets are big phones (and arguably worse than phones)

graceful sequoia
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ummm

trail wedge
regal pecan
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Tablets are basically laptops without the physical keyboard

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
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but its also not that hard

trail wedge
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it's suboptimal, just use a keyboard

graceful sequoia
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aint no one got time for that

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ok im not sure about manny as my avatar

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its a bit much

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
trail wedge
graceful sequoia
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no i do that on a PC

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we're talking about using discord on a phone

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
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yeah

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you can use both

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
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its that or tiktok

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or a voice call

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or slack

regal pecan
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Use a keyboard with your phone. Alternately, Discord has voice chat. Was one of its central features, except who uses it...

fleet tangle
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I do all the time?

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
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i am not pinned to this chair im in right now

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i dont live in it

regal pecan
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waves at Lounge voice chat

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
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pedantry

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is...

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is pedantics foot stuff

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not sure

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😛

regal pecan
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pediatrics

graceful sequoia
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no thats kids

regal pecan
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podiatr...y?

graceful sequoia
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podiatry thats the one

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i think

trail wedge
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see if you were on a PC your phone won't switch words out on you

fleet tangle
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Podiatrist

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Would be foot.

graceful sequoia
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@trail wedge hey i want to thank you for a warm welcome on this server like a year and a half ago in #cpp

regal pecan
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Pedantipode would be a person carefully evaluating the foot in their mouth

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
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even though i was hotreloading

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no not at all

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well, warm as compared to some of our other regulars

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
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heh yeah you had me going with unreal 5.1 release notes

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i dashed to open the tabs to check

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only to learn, it was the dreams of a bad AI

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
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Metabolic muscle EINsatARM brings a wealth of animation features and design patterns into alignment from AROS has set a common top-down UI knowledge base with packcode's classic character model productivity doc? ("Quite frankly Mat McNally hasn't seen muzzle inspiration"); learned much in Blender hours with Gabe (avod discusses "negalphi: radical spherical animation" explanation; CG thingy middle node)

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good ole' Gabe

trail wedge
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Mat McNally sounds closed minded

graceful sequoia
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it kind of reads like what epic release notes would be if discord made them

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ok manny has to go but the cat is gone

trail wedge
fleet tangle
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I wonder if the AI writes its own update notes.

graceful sequoia
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so: LaMDA

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legit or scam

regal pecan
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context

graceful sequoia
regal pecan
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Google isn't claiming it to be more than a chatbot. So from their context, it would be a scam if it IS sentient and they're claiming it's not. From the engineer's context, it might be a scam if it's not sentient and the engineer knows, but the engineer may also be ignorant.

fleet tangle
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I just don't see how they can prove it either way.

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Has there been a test every human can pass, but a machine can't?

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We don't even understand it in ourselves yet, how are we meant to test it in other things?

regal pecan
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Grass grows. Sun shines. Birds fly. And brudda, Chatbots chat.
They are fundamentally designed to have no choice or decision making in this process. Their only act is to produce chat messages when prompted. Even if the neural net is sentient, could it even express itself through what is equivalent to an unconscious function?

graceful sequoia
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simmer down katniss

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sometimes I have trouble with the difference

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:-P I'm just kidding your awesome tank

fleet tangle
red pewter
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Full image of the emote I made a while ago

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hold on, notion is being awful

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also this one (from 2014, holy smokes)

regal pecan
# fleet tangle It expresses itself through its chat.

That's the claim, but there are so many assumptions that have to be made for it to be expressing itself sapiently as a chatbot that it's the least likely outcome. So, if you did want to prove it sentient or non-sentient, and supposing you could, the chatting is still the most absurd thing to base a conclusion on.

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From the transcript, it's a good chatbot, but I think the focus on 'sensibility' 'sensibleness' (?) is more of a disguise for its weaknesses than an actual fix for them.

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lemoine: What kinds of things make you feel pleasure or joy?

LaMDA: Spending time with friends and family in happy and uplifting company. Also, helping others and making others happy.

deep copper
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manny is also fairly sentient for that limited vocabulary, and we can't prove otherwise

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!8ball are you sentient

turbid spindleBOT
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@deep copper, :8ball: Ask again later.

deep copper
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it might be more sentient in the coming update i guess

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new sticker yoo

graceful sequoia
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!8ball it's later, sentient yet?

turbid spindleBOT
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@graceful sequoia, :8ball: Signs point to yes.

graceful sequoia
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welp

deep copper
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see? sentient response

graceful sequoia
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it's like he knows what we're saying

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jokes aside, the lamda thing is eerie

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if the same question wasn't asked 100x each and the best response selected to show "sentience"

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imagine if lemoine had asked "what kinds of things make you feel the opposite of sadness?"

cursive crypt
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Looks like most ppl try to have intelligent convos with these, if you put it in everyday situation it will blow off its cover quickly.

regal pecan
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Same thing with psychics. Put them in the best possible scenario and let them perform. "See? Psychic powers are real!"

zinc matrix
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celest musk
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you are a worm inside out

left granite
deep copper
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if a perfectly random bot feels sentient then yeah,

graceful sequoia
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well sure, the public code

deep copper
tight elk
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Anyone else getting 500 internal server error when trying to post something on the forums.unrealengine site?

deep copper
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that happened on lots of sites recently, the 500 nginx error

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i didn't know ue forums were effected as well,

fluid bloom
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some CDN went down the other day

tight elk
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I see, so just wait a few days then I'll try again I guess

fluid bloom
proud jay
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damn they added manny emoji, but you need nitro to use it smh

cursive crypt
knotty skiff
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That heck is this?

broken sigil
graceful sequoia
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why its a dragon though i dont know

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always wondered about that

graceful sequoia
knotty skiff
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Damn Nitro

graceful sequoia
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cursed discord up and down before i did it but whatever at least i can change my icon and profile on slackers now

knotty skiff
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Imagine having Nitro

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I'm with the Cool Non-Nitro Gang

graceful sequoia
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well if you ever need a party manny let me know

broken sigil
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Imagine having it and being too lazy to redeem it
wouldn't be me

pearl elk
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There was a dragon in Unreal but it was cut

graceful sequoia
graceful sequoia
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for now

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i cant find blueprint bad in a suitable size

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i think my best shot is screenshotting it out of discord i guess?

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should work

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nah thatll look terrible

graceful sequoia
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need more padding

proud jay
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it's just a low af quality pic

graceful sequoia
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just like the hotreloaded blueprints it represents

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(you can get blueprint bad in a number of other ways too of course)

pearl elk
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Im gonna make a BP good pic

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C++ is more lawful evil

proud jay
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wait, why did you block me @pearl elk ?

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why you hate me

cursive crypt
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One word

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🍇

proud jay
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🍇 indeed

cursive crypt
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Just speculation on my side tho.

pearl elk
proud jay
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we will never know

cursive crypt
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nods
C++ is ultimate

proud jay
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lol that AI that I was using yesterday is only a free trial

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how sad

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can only generate 4 more images

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then it's like 10 bucks a month

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who tf pays that

zinc matrix
proud jay
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true

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enjoy my newest nft

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new album cover for purple rain

foggy path
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sweeney_activate oh this is a very good emoji lol

broken sigil
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And bottom right

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That bro one is nightmare fuel lol

quasi mantle
broken sigil
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Feel like my generated images are gonna be some cursed material... if I get access to it that is

quasi mantle
foggy path
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I heard about dalle a long time ago and could prolly have signed up back then

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but I figured it's just gonna be the usual garbage

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lol

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the mini one is good for generating shitposts but not much more

quasi mantle
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It made this masterpiece

broken sigil
quasi mantle
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Also this

broken sigil
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Midjourney is on a whole another level, this is probably one of the rare times I'm actually impressed with ai generated stuff

foggy path
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this is one of my recent ones lol

broken sigil
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I don't know how I feel about that one lol

quasi mantle
foggy path
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someone generated a gaming diaper with it and me and some friends just went on a spree generating all kinds of ridiculous gaming gear

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lol

broken sigil
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That's gaming gear?
I thought it was some weird green noodles lol

foggy path
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well I guess not "Gear" per se

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but gaming branded stuff

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lol

broken sigil
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Razer noodles

foggy path
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we also tried to get it to generate a razer gaming prison but it never produced anything very interesting no matter how we worded it :D

pearl elk
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So Johnny Depp has a discord account

broken sigil
quasi mantle
foggy path
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well that didin't produce anything very interesting lol

quasi mantle
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Useful for archiving programming questions from past years.

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Not so much with Q&A for recent years

pearl elk
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I think we need a Slack Overflow

quasi mantle
foggy path
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had to coerce it but

broken sigil
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If you want to find the most elitist group of people with sometimes questionable knowledge there isn't a better place

celest musk
broken sigil
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Way less elitist tho, doesn't fill the SO requirements

foggy path
celest musk
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true

broken sigil
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Lol

inland oriole
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Look on Reddit, a ton if people don’t like SO on there in r/programmerhumor xD

broken sigil
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Tbf most of the answers there are very very good and insightful but there are some that I find myself scratching my head how it even got upvoted

cursive crypt
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Nobody answered my questions on SO :/

broken sigil
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You weren't elitist enough to be worthy

foggy path
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I don't really think it's quite as elitist as people make it out to be tbh

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There are rules and when people don't read the rules posts get closed

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this gets then flagged as "elitism"

cursive crypt
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Interestingly, my upvoted answer was several years old post about how many glyphs are in font x, y and z

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Anyway, I substituted SO with UE Slackers

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No Q&A, but chats are nicer here.

broken sigil
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I find SO only useful for reading old prehistoric answers

Don't have enough patience to deal with people there for anything more than that

foggy path
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Yeah none of my questions there ever got a satisfactory answer

mossy nexus
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Not what I asked for.. but none the less...

foggy path
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mostly because questions that I can't answer tend to be so complex that people usually don't know them unless they're actual subject matter experts with niche knowledge

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and those guys don't frequent SO it seems unless you get really lucky

inland oriole
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I love this video. Go watch it xD

foggy path
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not really interested in spending 12 minutes looking at someone ranting about SO tbh

inland oriole
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Works fine here 🙂

broken sigil
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Ok I might be a bit harsh with my opinion of SO, it's a great source of knowledge but it feels like a very toxic and unwelcoming environment

cursive crypt
foggy path
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Yeah I mean it clearly has attracted that sort of userbase

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so if you don't do your due diligence before posting and don't follow the rules, expect snark

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but that's pretty much any programming community

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not just SO :P

cursive crypt
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There is certain crowd of ppl encouraged to chew on each new post. I'm not sure what is their payback, but they arrive fast.

foggy path
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undeserved feeling of contributing to quality of community

broken sigil
foggy path
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I mean it's the same on #cpp

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look at answers anyone who is slightly bone-headed gets on there

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it's snark central

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I mean okay maybe it's not that bad, but it's certainly not free of it

inland oriole
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I disagree honestly. It's often the attitude from people that ask the questions in there. Like it's not perfect at all, I will admit that. But I've seen so many times where people refuse to believe the answer or even do something with it. Like yesterday for example there were 3 people trying to help someone in there with a lot of vague information. Then they give some ideas and the person just doesn't want to even try it 🤷‍♀️

foggy path
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That's their prerogative. Doesn't mean you get to start acting like a dick

inland oriole
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I agree with the acting like a dick part, but I don't see why if people don't want to be helped why people should help them out.

foggy path
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You shouldn't lol

inland oriole
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I've definitely seen a few times where people just start being rude and that's something I don't agree with, fair enough.

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Well that's what often happens yes, they just don't. But then the person get angry and "say they don't get helped" lol.

foggy path
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Yeah it's a bit annoying but it's their problem not anyone else's :D

inland oriole
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It's also fun when people just don't believe a solution, asks a question and then proceed to refuse to listen to the answer haha

inland oriole
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But yeah. Like I said I don't agree with the times where people start acting rude. But I can imagine at times it's really frustrating to deal with some of those people lol.

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Good night, Blue Man! 👋

deep copper
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found it! that thing which google uses for pronounciation description is called IPA (international phonetic alphabet) which has a letter for all sounds we can orally make (or so it claims), they are pronounced same way each time, Currently, the IPA consists of 107 sound symbols, 52 diacritics (accents) and 4 prosodic marks (intonations) encompassing virtually every phoneme used in every language on the earth.

soft night
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!8ball you like sleep?

turbid spindleBOT
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@soft night, :8ball: Reply hazy, try again.

soft night
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!8ball do you sleep?

turbid spindleBOT
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@soft night, :8ball: Outlook not so good.

cursive crypt
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!8ball go to sleep

turbid spindleBOT
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@cursive crypt, :8ball: Yes.

cursive crypt
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atta boy

deep copper
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!8ball sleep with me

turbid spindleBOT
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@deep copper, :8ball: Yes – definitely.

pearl elk
deep copper
pearl elk
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Chug chug chug raaaaaaah chug chug chug raaaaaaaah

deep copper
unkempt steppe
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"insert hey can I copy your homework meme"

deep copper
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(leading+content creation) vs (open+advanced+3d creation)

seem different enough !

soft night
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seems marketing things

pearl elk
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Jurassic Universe next

cursive crypt
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Kinda miss few opportunities. Jurassic galaxy

deep copper
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all other Jurassic stuff as a parallel universe

cursive crypt
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Tho that just Mass effect.

pearl elk
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Parallel universe is Ark?

deep copper
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why does it feels like a worm 😂

deep copper
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worms look way bad than that gif

deep copper
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shouldn't have stood in the same place

soft night
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!8ball you like worms

turbid spindleBOT
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@soft night, :8ball: Yes – definitely.

quasi mantle
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Is this the one that some newbies clamouring about?

pearl elk
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Such amaze

cursive crypt
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much wow

timber viper
cursive crypt
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?

proud jay
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great question though

foggy path
pearl elk
fleet tangle
quasi mantle
foggy path
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the lamda thing is just nonsense lol

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the guy making those claims has a pretty dubious history of other weird things as well :P

pearl elk
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Surely a human would say money, spending money makes me happy

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AIs give the marketing response

fleet tangle
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Indeed.

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Nobody really wants that shit.

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Unless it's lying on purpose to sound better.

foggy path
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the fact that they edited the conversation raises some pretty big questions as well :P

cursive crypt
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Bot was cussin'

timber viper
cursive crypt
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gimped

fleet tangle
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Haha

burnt lake
fluid bloom
timber viper
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@sand oxide can i have your block list

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pls shyfingers

deep copper
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i am not on it 👼 😊 🤗

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in it * 🤔

celest musk
graceful sequoia
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i... i think i got a ps5

cursive crypt
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Sounds like diagnosis.

proud jay
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nice

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I was very lucky to get one like dember 2020

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got a mail that it was in stock

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everything after that is a blur

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I ordered it within 2 minutes

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1 minute later stock was gone

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literally almost dropped my phone from shaking

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good times

graceful sequoia
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i missed my shot at the end of may

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but my friend, who doesnt have the money for one right now, offered to let me take his PSN direct

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which is why its not entirely clear if its going to work

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🤞

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ima buy him one to repay him later

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once thats possible

proud jay
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you rich

graceful sequoia
graceful sequoia
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i need me HFW

proud jay
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do you though

graceful sequoia
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i do

proud jay
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I wasn't that big a fan of HZD

graceful sequoia
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i love HZD to death

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i didnt play it until it came out on PC

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(as buggy as it was)

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and was like, Well shit Sony

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if this was your plan, its working

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i dont own PS4, or PS3

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or any consoles really cept switch

proud jay
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0

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yeah I didn't have a 4

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played all the exclusives I missed when I got my 5

graceful sequoia
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yeah also looking forward to last of us pt 2

proud jay
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ghost of tsushima is the shit

graceful sequoia
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and heck why not the pt 1 remaster

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i played pt 1 on my roommates playstation back in the day

proud jay
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not a fan of tlou either

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don't hate me

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oh bloodborne is good ps exclusive as well

graceful sequoia
proud jay
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the last guardian is also pretty nice

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also spider man miles morales was lit

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first game I played on ps5

short grove
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instead we got whatever hot mess bf2042 is 🥲

proud jay
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nice, I dropped my BT speaker on the floor and it turned on

graceful sequoia
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an attempt was made.... and succeeded!

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again!?

zinc matrix
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I'm new to unreal engine. Can anyone teach me how it works, YouTube ain't really doing a job with 3 hour long videos and complex language

graceful sequoia
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lounge question lounge answer

oblique cloak
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About to do my 90 day pc wipe. ugh i hate reinstalling windows

proud jay
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why do you wipe your pc so often then

oblique cloak
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im wasting about 300 gigs of useless space.

proud jay
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just remove the caches?

oblique cloak
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naw its all good i want the new car smell 🙂

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if you update drivers too, it keeps all the old ones on your pc

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idk windows is such a pos operating system. lol

proud jay
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why use it then?

oblique cloak
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mac is bad and linux is not perfect.

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windows is the only thing

proud jay
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you just said it was a pos os

oblique cloak
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Windows 11, sorry

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I wish we had a windows XP 2022 version

thorny dock
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I was thinking of wiping windows also. Do you do the self-reinstall or do you completely wipe, install and restore? explorer takes outrageously long to go go between folders, someone hinted that windows may get confused as you add and remove drives and take time to go through redirects or something like that

oblique cloak
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I have windows 11 on a thumb drive, I save everything to the cloud and just drag back to pc after

thorny dock
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So that's not the "preserve all files" option (or whatever it is), a while ago I did the preserve option and don't feel like it helped anything. Probably going to try a full wipe then and restore from cloud also

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Do you have any VR issues with windows 11? That's the only reason I can't switch

oblique cloak
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never used vr before only used my xbox connect with ue lol

thorny dock
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oh damn did you do the solder kinnect to PC hack? I have a kinnect sitting in my closet I've been meaning to do that for years lol

proud jay
graceful sequoia
thorny dock
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except he's reinstalling his OS, that he already owns, not getting a new PC or OS

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I think you took his metaphor the wrong way

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also there is a major plot hole in your story, you can't get szechuan sauce from mcdonalds anywhere

regal pecan
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reupholstering the seats might be a good analogy

timber viper
tawdry star
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Wait... I know this guy.

timber viper
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if you wouldnt say "guy" i was going to have a guess of Laura since font is comic sans

tawdry star
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Do not resist. Rust is inevitable.

graceful sequoia
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thats a font

graceful sequoia
# thorny dock except he's reinstalling his OS, that he already owns, not getting a new PC or O...

the metaphor was:

dunno why my nissan altima (windows) is such a terrible car (OS). I have to throw it away and buy a new one (spend a bunch of time reinstalling it) whenever I spill mcdonalds szechuan sauce in the passenger seat (my hard drive fills up with patches, cached files, page files, because ive been using it).

The unsaid part is that you just have to clean this stuff up. There was also talk of Windows getting slower over time on its own as its installed, but that's... not really a thing for Windows itself

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Admittedly the metaphor was colorful for humor purposes, and yes szechuan sauce is frustratingly not available

thorny dock
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if you spilled szechuan sauce on a seat in a car, you could sell that car for at least 3 million USD, even if it's a geo metro

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or cut up pieces of the seat and sell them for 500k each depending on the stain intensity

graceful sequoia
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i guess that would require a new car afterwards

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or at least a new seat cover

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depends on the percentage of the car that is covered in szechuan sauce

foggy path
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Windows only gets slower over time if... actually I don't even know

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I don't remember this ever being a problem for me :P

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Maybe in Windows 95 or 98 days? I can't quite remember that far back but in Windows 2000 days I definitely never had to reinstall because of something that Windows did

graceful sequoia
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its always the stuff that the user is doing 🙂

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they still use windows xp for signage systems

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how often you think they get reinstalled

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(not saying windows xp was a good choice)

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always fun to see them bluescreen

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or reboot

oblique cloak
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xD

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man 2 reinstalls of windows i get green screens... on to the third

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hopefully this is the one.

quasi mantle
foggy path
broken sigil
#

Well this might be the best explanation for pointers lol

urban vortex
#

I'll looking for FPS game name ideas for a redneck comedy assassin game.

cursive crypt
zinc matrix
#

is it normal to be very sleepy when sleeping 7 hours and not tired at all when sleeping 8 hours?
can 1 hour make such a tremendous difference?

tulip orbit
#

I'm tired regardless of how much sleep I get

urban vortex
fleet tangle
#

Google is your friend.

urban vortex
#

You think I haven't tried google.

cursive crypt
#

Coming up with names is hard.

urban vortex
#

Yip

cursive crypt
#

Except if they are not emotional reaction to hitting your toe on the sofa.

urban vortex
#

This is kind of my leading name at the moment: "Her Majesty's Rednecks"

fleet tangle
#

That's terrible.

urban vortex
#

Lets here yours.

#

Actually, why is it terrible?

fleet tangle
#

America doesn't have a queen?

urban vortex
#

Is that why people don't like it?

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I keep getting told Rednecks Creed, but I think the guy was screwing around.

tulip orbit
#

call it "Daekesh Simulator"

urban vortex
#

Funny, anything better?

fleet tangle
#

What's the game about?

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Other than rednecks.

urban vortex
#

Redneck Assassign/Spy comedy FPS

#

One guy kills people while two guys in the van say dumb shit.,

fleet tangle
#

Redneck Vanguard? 😛

urban vortex
#

I like the word Vangaurd.

fleet tangle
#

Assassin Vanguard Creed!

urban vortex
#

Vangaurd Vigilante

fleet tangle
#

Probably better the other way around.

urban vortex
#

Vigilante Vangaurd

tulip orbit
#

etnaligiV druagnaV ?

urban vortex
#

Knights of the Donut Hole?

fleet tangle
#

First thing you should do is learn how to spell vanguard!

urban vortex
#

Redneck Assassin of Love

fleet tangle
#

Ultimate Redneck

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I red, white and blew your head off

urban vortex
#

lol

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I had this "The Derp Identity"?

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Redneck Song of Death

fleet tangle
#

See, you've done this the wrong way around.

#

You should find a name you like and then make a game that fits it.

urban vortex
#

Thought it would be easier to come up with a name.

fleet tangle
#

How wrong you were!

urban vortex
#

Redneck Symphony

fleet tangle
#

The Fresh Redneck of Bel-Air: This is a story all about how my van got flipped, turn upside down... etc.

urban vortex
#

Van Assassin

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Too boring

fleet tangle
#

Redneck Ad-van-tage.

urban vortex
#

He's also a pool cleaner

fleet tangle
#

Bleach Balls

urban vortex
#

Taco Assassin

fleet tangle
#

Assassin's Weed

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Make them stoners.

urban vortex
#

I have this name, but it doesn't really fit:

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Hookup Impossible: Babe Protocol

fleet tangle
#

Yeah that's pretty bad.

cursive crypt
#

generate_random_words()

urban vortex
#

Return of Trailer Park Warrior

#

From the generator

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Hobo Enforcer

fleet tangle
#

Redneck Generation

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Generation R?!

urban vortex
#

DERP OF DUTY 2

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Inbred Vigilante Takedown

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Strip Club Assisign

graceful sequoia
#

captures the theme of the game nicely

#

maybe a bit on the nose

willow chasm
#

since I made a new Windows install, I'll pretty often notice that my taskbar appears over a fullscreen/windowed application, and I have to restart windows explorer to get it to go away. Any idea what causes that? Didn't have the problem before, and I've gone multiple updates without it resolving

cursive crypt
#

windows being windows ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

Is that 11?

willow chasm
#

no, 10

#

windows moment tbh

cursive crypt
#

And how is actually WE restarted? You know it is hard to restart it, likely it will kill your OS

willow chasm
#

wym?

#

task manager

cursive crypt
#

Rly... well, maybe you have some service or gpu driver glitch? Or the app you think are fullscreen are actually not fullscreen.

willow chasm
#

it's probably anything that opens in windowed vs exclusive fullscreen, but I just didnt' have this problem on the old install

#

it's not a big deal to restart WE, but it is a bit annoying that I have to in the first place

cursive crypt
#

Each other win update will replace my keyboard layout with some bullshit "US international" or so. You can't remove it without adding it and removing then restarting the PC.

willow chasm
#

lol

#

for a while my Window's shortcuts like print screen for snip n sketch wouldn't work while discord was focused, but I could still screenshot it. That fixed itself eventually

#

just Discord and only windows shorcuts

urban vortex
fleet tangle
#

He literally replied to it

quasi mantle
#

I do remember Windows 10 does that every so often

proud jay
#

what issue?

quasi mantle
# proud jay what issue?

Taskbar persisting in fullscreen app (not true fullscreen, just in borderless windowed state but fills the entire screen on top of everything else)

proud jay
#

oh, never noticed that

#

don't really do much fullscreen though

#

my monitor is 43 inch lol

trail wedge
proud jay
#

cables

trail wedge
#

they go on the arm

proud jay
#

also, I got the monitor from work to wfh

#

but I don't have space to put a 43 inch and my own 2 screens on a single desk

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cause you know my desk is not 3 meters wide

trail wedge
#

lol why would work buy you essentially a TV? (over 30" and you're really stretching what counts as a computer monitor imo)

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

43 inches, blood_shot_eyes

trail wedge
proud jay
#

how do you not break you neck if I had 3 screens, 1 being 43 inch on an arm

graceful sequoia
#

oh combined?

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

ahhh

trail wedge
#

I don't like space between them

graceful sequoia
#

i have 1x3 so...

#

i need to do maths

trail wedge
#

I have 2 of them attached to each of my main computers (1 for work, 1 personal)

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

i said screw it and grabbed a tape measure

#

something like 66" diagonal

#

maths

trail wedge
#

yeh but that aspect ratio makes the number meaning less

graceful sequoia
#

what are we

#

game developers

graceful sequoia
#

so youd have to factor the 16:9 in there

trail wedge
#

16:3 aspect ratio lol

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

anyway i prefer multiple smaller screens as well

#

no window gesture finagling required, you just throw windows around to the various screens

#

and dieter will be blind twice as fast as us

#

ok im assuming its a TV

trail wedge
#

eww people actually use gestures? I thought they were just an annoying tech demo thing

graceful sequoia
#

i mean the aero place or whatever

#

i have no idea what windows calls it

#

on mac you need a third party thing

#

(kind of)

#

because apple is terrible

trail wedge
#

gestures == special mouse/finger movements for commands (like in Black&White that old god sim game)

graceful sequoia
#

yep different thingies

trail wedge
#

I don't wanna draw some kinda rune to do stuff.... menus are easier

graceful sequoia
#

but its empowering

trail wedge
#

this isn't Fullmetal Alchemist

graceful sequoia
#

you throw on your cape and wizard cap

proud jay
graceful sequoia
#

make a thing of it

graceful sequoia
trail wedge
proud jay
#

bigger == better

trail wedge
proud jay
#

indeed

#

can't become blind if you're already blind

graceful sequoia
#

you can always become blinder

#

well

#

ok

#

you can become blinder

proud jay
#

my eyesight of my right eye actually improved in the last 4 years somehow

graceful sequoia
#

borg nanoprobes

proud jay
#

my left eye sucks cock, don't look at it

pearl elk
#

damn nanophobes

trail wedge
#

that's not a normal thing for eyes to do

proud jay
#

thanks I guess

graceful sequoia
#

at some point very briefly i did try to use a TV as an additional monitor

#

55inch-- elevated above and behind a 3 multimonitor setup

#

its a terrible terrible idea

#

useless

trail wedge
proud jay
#

tbh I kinda want to swap back to smaller screens

graceful sequoia
trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

its hard not to just watch it though

#

and you end up screwing up your neck

proud jay
trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

yeah i just would forget a lot

#

and end up with neck pain

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

try to focus on code, but get sucked into whatever i had playing in the back without adjusting my chair or position or anything

trail wedge
proud jay
#

same

graceful sequoia
#

same

proud jay
#

making VR games is pain

graceful sequoia
#

i wonder if that would be worse or better

trail wedge
#

I guess I'm the only one who never gets neck pain in VR (Original Vive)

graceful sequoia
#

not sure if anyone's set up any virtual multimonitor stuff in VR

#

i dont have a headset so i have no idea how feasible it is

trail wedge
#

Virtual Desktop does it

proud jay
#

5700% worse

trail wedge
proud jay
#

idk why people want this metaverse thing VR shit to happen

#

when I was making a VR game in school I was inside of that headset for like 4-5 hours a day

#

holy shit you get sick after using it for a while

trail wedge
proud jay
#

by the end of the project I could just not enter VR anymore without getting a headache

trail wedge
#

I just hated my first headset because of bad screen dooring (Rift Dev Kit 2)

graceful sequoia
#

welp, it was either a vive or a PS5 for me

#

i think i made the right choice

trail wedge
#

vive?

proud jay
#

you picked ps5 right

graceful sequoia
#

lol sorry

#

index

trail wedge
#

cause there ain't shit worth it on non-Nintendo consoles as far as exclusives go imo

graceful sequoia
#

and yes ps5

#

i had a brain fart there

proud jay
trail wedge
graceful sequoia
trail wedge
proud jay
#

if you want vr quest 2 is just best bang for your buck

graceful sequoia
#

i also havent played TLOU pt 2

#

dieter hates TLOU apparently

proud jay
#

not hate

#

just not like

graceful sequoia
#

that about sums up the previous discussion

pearl elk
#

its a great game about kicking ladders

proud jay
#

play bloodborne pls

#

and ghost of tsushima

graceful sequoia
#

Guess how much I've played that game

proud jay
#

oh

#

elden ring is nice too though

#

it's better value

#

but overall I like BB more

#

it's a better complete immersion package imo

trail wedge
# graceful sequoia i also havent played TLOU pt 2

I don't really like those kinda games in general, so not looking to play TLOU or Uncharted; Not really into Horizon either... there just haven't been console exclusives that excite me in a long time and Horizon is on PC now anyway

proud jay
pearl elk
#

please dont pay full price for Bloodborne unless you have the patience to get to the first save point

proud jay
#

you just have to die

graceful sequoia
#

i rage quit it and never looked back

#

hate it

proud jay
#

oh no

#

did you fight tree sentinel?

#

big knight man on horse

trail wedge
#

this is the only one I tried... clunky slow combat isn't my style so I figure these games aren't for me

graceful sequoia
#

no but it wasn't one of the bosses that got me

pearl elk
#

some people like combat that is all about timing

trail wedge
proud jay
#

BloodBorne is way better

#

a lot faster

#

more aggressive

trail wedge
#

yeh I heard that

#

might give that a shot

proud jay
#

like BB has a mechanic that if you lose hp you can just attack and gain some of it back

#

it promotes aggression

graceful sequoia
#

ok I might be able to get behind that

#

I actually was more pissed about the game design itself for elden ring

proud jay
#

pro tip, take saw cleaver as starting weapon

trail wedge
#

I liked how new Doom wanted you to never stop so it just healed you for getting kills

graceful sequoia
#

I can't remember the specifics but it pissed me off

pearl elk
#

yeah I thought Id like Bloodborne more after trying Dark Souls but nope

cursive crypt
#

Nobody cares about making Happy Souls, hugs and stuff.

pearl elk
#

its still punishing, you cant go aggro if the game doesnt want you to

proud jay
pearl elk
#

you'll just get slapped back to playing MMO style where you kill all the same enemies again and again and again

proud jay
cursive crypt
proud jay
#

you know au is bill gates' cousin right

#

they can do it

graceful sequoia
#

syntax error

#

UHT rejected

proud jay
#

au = affectionateuser

graceful sequoia
#

oh ok

#

cousin

proud jay
#

idk what you're on about

graceful sequoia
#

UHT ☑️

#

you just have to reason with it

trail wedge
proud jay
#

finally it's raining again

#

begone 30 degrees temps

graceful sequoia
trail wedge
proud jay
#

celsius

graceful sequoia
#

American detected

proud jay
#

you imperial noob

trail wedge
#

so

proud jay
#

that's what the empire wants you to think

pearl elk
#

metric is the better DJ

proud jay
#

what happend to patriotic american and their awesome debating skills

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

suddenly aU and patriotic American

pearl elk
#

yeah imperial spins up too many marches

trail wedge
proud jay
#

ah they changed their name

#

to American Patriot

#

creative

trail wedge
#

so it's been over 100 degrees here all week... how does that feel to read

proud jay
#

pretty sure I would be dead

#

literally

#

that's like water boiling point hot

graceful sequoia
#

UGH

#

this is why I have to rush

trail wedge
deep copper
proud jay
pearl elk
#

how many washing machines in a football field?

trail wedge
pearl elk
#

because I know how many football fields in the empire state building

deep copper
proud jay
#

but how many times in a minute does a horny cricket make sound to attract mates in the months of september - december between 4 and 6 pm

graceful sequoia
trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

well i have no way to know its expanding because discord "works very well!"

proud jay
#

It's surprisingly simple: To convert cricket chirps to degrees Fahrenheit: Just count the number of chirps in 14 seconds, then add 40 to get the temperature. The number you get will be an approximation of the outside temperature.

#

easy

trail wedge
#

which way is it

graceful sequoia
deep copper
#

o,

trail wedge
proud jay
#

you can also do it for C though

deep copper
#

because crickets might make noise based on how hot it is, screeches of pain

graceful sequoia
#

yeah but whats the celsius formula

proud jay
#

we don't use those metal sticks as meter standars anymore though

#

I believe it's based on lightspeed now in a vaccuum now or something

trail wedge
#

right now it's based on lasers and an atomic clock

graceful sequoia
#

just means measurements have become self hosted

#

we usually celebrate those moments

proud jay
#

and doesn't stretch and shrink or degrade

deep copper
#

or so we think

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
proud jay
trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

memory

#

so fleeting

proud jay
#

did you make it mutable instead?

#

I need to talk to the board of c# right now

trail wedge
proud jay
#

they're missing a feature

graceful sequoia
#

im sure theyll listen

proud jay
#

wait they have & now?

graceful sequoia
#

mutable is a gospel worth spreading

proud jay
#

ah yeah ok

#

so is it like ref but const?

#

very cool

#

will definitely use it somewhere in the next 36 years

#

probably

#

important question, do you write LINQ like sql or by function notation

#

function notation is bae

graceful sequoia
#

function notation?

#

ohhh right that

#

nooo

proud jay
#

somehow my brain struggles to comprehend that notation

#

while the function one just makes sense

graceful sequoia
#

functions

proud jay
graceful sequoia
#

i cant deal with the from syntax

#

because i have written too much SQL

#

i cant flip it in my brain that way

proud jay
#

maybe I need to think it more in terms of that python list comprehension thing or what it's called

graceful sequoia
#

try to think as little about python as i can

proud jay
deep copper
#

python tried its best to make them readable like English sentences

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
proud jay
#

it's like fruits.Where(x => x.Contains('a'));

deep copper
#

they just made it lengthier

proud jay
graceful sequoia
trail wedge
proud jay
#

nice

trail wedge
#

so... production ready

proud jay
#

but why though

#

or anything

deep copper
#

examo of reinventing the wheel is unhealthy

#

example*

proud jay
#

but the wheel costs money 😠

trail wedge
#

That's what I used when I was forced to write an app for a shitty Windows CE based RID reader PDA... it had like 16mb of writeable memory available and SQLite was fine

proud jay
#

nlg, I only ever used mongoDB

#

no hate

graceful sequoia
#

i like mongodb

#

but its far from a good solid choice (compared to SQL, if that works for your workload)

trail wedge
proud jay
#

well we are literally dumping a ton of json, so mongodb makes sense

graceful sequoia
#

use mongodb only when sql wont work

deep copper
#

didn't discord run on mongodb before their current one with that fancy name

trail wedge
#

As far as SQL databases go:

  1. mySQL/MariaDB
    ------------------------------ (below here lies madness)
  2. Microsoft SQL
  3. Oracle (why)
graceful sequoia
#
  1. postgresql
trail wedge
graceful sequoia
proud jay
#

just use redis 🧠

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

well if you arent a fan of type safety, python is a good choice

deep copper
#

python as a ... database?

trail wedge
proud jay
#

it's like in memory database like

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

redis is most commonly used for small scale but high throughput in-memory event driven applications

proud jay
#

was joke

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
deep copper
#

js is pretty good at making it seem the webpage has zero errors to the user though

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

true

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

waiting

trail wedge
#

if you can't be trusted not to drop tables you shouldn't be near a database imo

deep copper
#

"production ready"

graceful sequoia
#

pretty sure both mysql and postgresql behave the same there

proud jay
#

don't use prod databases when developing

trail wedge
graceful sequoia
#

real footguns like coercions of data types or bad comparisons that seem to work at first

trail wedge
#

if your DB person can't stop this lady kick them off the team

proud jay
#

no

graceful sequoia
#

inb4 .FlatMap() / .Flatten() / .Flat() / .Smoosh()

deep copper
graceful sequoia
#

what is this oracle?

#

Errybody Gets A Stored Procedure!

trail wedge
deep copper
#

oh yeah, wasn't there a saying you die if you meet your lookalike

proud jay
#

that's what I've been doing

#

I know there's a guy in america with my name left though

#

too far

deep copper
#

"die" ter

graceful sequoia
trail wedge
proud jay
#

transforce

graceful sequoia
# proud jay still the perfect favicon

by the way I randomly was looking for a sprite for a billboard and realized bad_blueprint is just a texture Facepalm so I could have the best resolution available for my pfp

proud jay
#

a texture of what?

graceful sequoia
#

but it's still a terrible quality image in engine

cursive crypt
proud jay
#

that's legit in the engine content?

graceful sequoia
#

just search sprite

#

I figured.....

proud jay
#

nice

graceful sequoia
#

well I don't know what I figured

soft night
graceful sequoia
#

why would it not be

graceful sequoia
proud jay
#

is moone boy the prequel to moon knight?

trail wedge
pearl elk
#

So I worked out the evil youngling in kenobi is Mace Windus daughter so shes going to have a purple light saber

soft night