f gc
#lounge
cursive crypt
Aha... so, when they gotta be cleaned up?
Never?
I see.
Hard ref, as ownership of the UObject or as just a field property?
Guess, the latter 🤔
vestal violet
Basically anything thats not a raw ptr or WeakPtr
cursive crypt
I think there is so much refs everywhere that it will be a pain. And yeah, maybe ustructs and objects not accessible through UProps will be still not thought of as hard refs.
vestal violet
Rip any games that use subsystems referencing every actor
cursive crypt
The problem is not so much of that, as much that you need a chain of "managed" refs to be considered a hard ref.
Well, if you add to root.
My fresh example is from the Gameplay stuff. There is a ASC actor info struct which is just shared ptr. Guess, you can't add an uobject prop there.
Can't be exposed.
It is UE, not me.
It is all salad... casual uprops, tobjectptr, tweakptrs, tstrongptrs...
Just make your mind dammit
Ppl have invented good systems already since ages.
Anyway, rant over.
My favourite recent stuff, was running GC each frame not actually GCing a dangling ref. It just took its time and went numb.
Of course, it was not invalidated, just random memory. Fancy crashes.
GC are too finicky, you have barely some control and just stuck to figuring out how the author designed it to behave. Hard to debug too.
vestal violet
I chose C++ because I had full control over lifetimes tbh
cursive crypt
Well, I suppose decided to go with that as it was "hype" back then and kind of lowers the entry level for programmers. However, trying to hide everything sometimes is bad idea. Also, make programmers dumbly relying on magic.
Duh... I said rant over. Started to again.
quasi mantle
Just realised Control Rig nodes are Fast Path 😮
cursive crypt
Fast, fast... how fast are they?
You are 6 years Unity free, time not to fall for these marketing tricks.
graceful sequoia
ok ok @ionic flame i only glanced here. Are you saying components holding actor references would delay destruction?
otherwise im not clear how thats going to be different
graceful sequoia
Just realised Control Rig nodes are Fast Path 😮
someones been reading #cpp
well yeah
oh
well.... yeah 😦
i was reading a bit more in #cpp
are you saying that the component of an actor holding a reference to the actor will prevent freeing the memory
because i think thats broken
fluid parcel
Hey everyone, how’s it going?
vestal violet
are you saying that the component _of an actor_ holding a reference _to the acto...
I think they'd have to do some tracking wrt to subobject refs
graceful sequoia
Hey everyone, how’s it going?
very well! happy saturday or whatever off by one it is
fluid parcel
Sunday morning now, but I’m a night person so it’s technically my Saturday
Anyone playing anything or doing anything fun tonight?
cursive crypt
Playing c++
graceful sequoia
I think they'd have to do some tracking wrt to subobject refs
right... i guess i was thinking of the final instance rather than the CDO referencing
but wait- is there an individual actor-instance specific instance of a component added in the CDO?
cursive crypt
monke noises
cursive crypt
Its fine.
I have to go search in sunday someone to glue my tire. Blew it off this midnight.
graceful sequoia
welp thats either lounge-question-lounge-answer, or im sorry to hear that
fluid parcel
I have to confess, I came to this channel with an ulterior motive but I didn’t wanna just dump a question on y’all and run lmao.
Here goes: what’s the best 3D platformer you’ve ever played or seen, from an art style perspective? Like, what game had an art style that just made it perfect?
cursive crypt
omg... secret agenda
graceful sequoia
I have to confess, I came to this channel with an ulterior motive but I didn’t w...
thats a question for #.... oh yeah i guess its fine
cursive crypt
#art
graceful sequoia
404 not found
cursive crypt
There is VC #vc-artist-alley btw
Not sure what is going on there.
Guess streets are empty now.
graceful sequoia
i thought the #vc channels were archived
cause discord has that voice chat text channel feature
cursive crypt
Saw the other day, Discord adding chats per VC? Or something.
cursive crypt
Not sure how this works, maybe there is default chat now for each VC
graceful sequoia
there is yeah
vestal violet
I have to confess, I came to this channel with an ulterior motive but I didn’t w...
I'd say the first Jak & Daxter for pure art style alone even if its a bit aged
fluid parcel
God I miss that series
fluid parcel
Talk about a classic in need of some love, if you’re the type to love remakes or reboots anyways
cursive crypt
why cant we link to voice channels
Cause you can't find the icon on your keyboard
graceful sequoia
Cause you can't find the icon on your keyboard
clipping is an art
cursive crypt
Definitely not, as you can see.
vestal violet
Everything about that series was great I'm so glad they didn't make a racing game out of it
cursive crypt
Just brute forced rect crop.
fluid parcel
I think along the same vein as J&D, you gotta mention Ratchet & Clank and it’s predecessor, Spyro. Just great games with really fun visuals.
fluid parcel
Forgot about that game
vestal violet
same, different era 😥
graceful sequoia
on that same lineage mario 64 transformed the notion of how 3d player movement gameplay mechanics could work
vestal violet
definitely didn't transform camera mechanics though lul
still a great game though
I think it's time to fire up the n64 again, been too long
graceful sequoia
definitely didn't transform camera mechanics though lul
well it did, just not in a good way
vestal violet
lol tru
graceful sequoia
although i dunno
no one had ever grappled with a camera clipping through walls before
the choices they made worked ok for that game, the industry has evolved the concept radically since then
cursive crypt
Commander Keen was the last platformer I played. And it is the best.
graceful sequoia
Commander Keen was the last platformer I played. And it is the best.
sheesh you switching to idtech9000 on us?
carmine frigate
the zelda games ha good 3d platforming.. but it wasnt the main thing
graceful sequoia
the zelda games ha good 3d platforming.. but it wasnt the main thing
if you think about it, the fact that the first 3d zelda followed right after nintendo revolutionized platforming with mario 64, a game about jumping. And they opted to have no jumping in Ocarina
carmine frigate
they did but it was auto
graceful sequoia
well, automatic jumping yeah
vestal violet
https://tenor.com/view/im-in-my-prime-funny-ironic-age-old-gif-11480659
I feel attacked
cursive crypt
I feel attacked
It was a compliment, you oldie
carmine frigate
mario 64 had double jump right?
graceful sequoia
goes to show they were willing to forego successful tactics to make a different game
cursive crypt
fallout tactics btw
graceful sequoia
mario 64 had double jump right?
yes amongs other things
carmine frigate
so yea a bit odd zelda had no jump button... but it worked well
the shield was cool for platforming too ... and the torches u had to carry
little link with the big shield on his back was super dope
vestal violet
I thought the use of looking for targets on walls as part of the puzzling was a cool for the time
they used the 3d space pretty well for such an early design around it
carmine frigate
yea dungeons and bosses were super dope
graceful sequoia
they used the 3d space pretty well for such an early design around it
are there earlier examples of targetting systems in platformer games?
there might be, but its definitely a seminal example
vestal violet
I don't think so? At least not in platformers, there was earlier lock-on styled stuff like fallout a year before OOT
graceful sequoia
thats interesting i hadnt thought about the fallout aspect of that
a different genre, but presumably an influence at least
vestal violet
Tangentially tvtropes taught me a new term; "Ur-Example" meaning the earliest known example of something (they also list OOT as the trope maker for lockon fwiw)
Well, Wing Commander from 1990 had lockon as well, thats probably as far back as I can dig lol
graceful sequoia
lockon itself wasnt uninvented
even star fox on the SNES had lock on
so nintendo themselves had already used it
and im sure there are earlier examples, like probably 3d tank games
but for a 3d platformer
vestal violet
S64 was my first jump into completionism, still undecided if it was worth it
vestal violet
🐸
timber viper
soft night
cursive crypt
pearl elk
Ive decided
Im gonna get a face lift to look like one of the most common metahumans settings
then Im gonna sue everyone for using my likeness
cursive crypt
On first read, I understood metal humans, got impressed.
cursive crypt
Definitely not my kink.
pearl elk
damnnit, it had to be one of these beat games
cursive crypt
Beat who? In most games there is beating.
pearl elk
its beating to the beats
pearl elk
music is decent but gah I didnt want a rhythm game
cursive crypt
What about... no rhythm? Just beats.
pearl elk
yeah like Doom
pearl elk
Did I miss Goat Simulator 2?
zinc matrix
never knew there was one
pearl elk
I wonder if thats a poke at Valve 😛
zinc matrix
lmao there isn't
cursive crypt
What is even that?
pearl elk
Its not odd
soft night
!8ball does it just works like Bethesda boss say?
turbid spindleBOT
@soft night, :8ball: Cannot predict now.
oblique cloak
cant wait to see whats bethesda has been up too!
hopefully not all starfield stuff >_<
fathom wadi
Dont think Todd Howard is going anywhere. Kotick will stick around as long as he can pay the right people off.
you know what I hate, these gamer panels. All trying to be all happy and excited about every single game. It's faker than a ho's hairweave. I'd rather they had some depressed people saying things like "Yeah it looks ok but I bet it's pay to win" or "I would be excited about this sequel but the last game was absolute garbage".
cursive crypt
Gamer panel?
soft night
!8ball are there pay to win?
turbid spindleBOT
@soft night, :8ball: As I see it, yes.
soft night
!8ball are you VI?
turbid spindleBOT
@soft night, :8ball: It is certain.
cursive crypt
!8ball is the Virtual Assistant from Mass effect your bro/sis?
turbid spindleBOT
@cursive crypt, :8ball: Better not tell you now.
cursive crypt
:/
soft night
!8ball you like avina?
turbid spindleBOT
@soft night, :8ball: Yes.
cursive crypt
aww
soft night
not the blood sucking fortnite like?
carmine frigate
lol disney is making mariokart
disney speedstorm
i dont blame em, its bound to be profiable
pearl elk
you know what I hate, these gamer panels. All trying to be all happy and excited...
Thats what we're for though, you'll never get the truth from the marketing crew... Dont you guys have phones
fathom wadi
Still, someone should do a panel with real gamers and not marketing influencers. It would be nice to get real opinions
pearl elk
Seen the user score?
fathom wadi
if we criticise games realistically, perhaps we dont end up with shit games that are all graphics no gameplay
pearl elk
Should be bout the worst on metacritic bout now 😜
carmine frigate
every1s a critic..
fathom wadi
Forza Motorsport selling Time Of Day like it's a new tech. Cmon now.
pearl elk
Dont be so mean, rich twitchers are gamers too
carmine frigate
Still, someone should do a panel with real gamers and not marketing influencers....
you should make ur own panel about panels
than sell out
night grove
if we criticise games realistically, perhaps we dont end up with shit games that...
The problem is that games have become mainstream, and with that the industry has been invaded by parasitic suits that can prey on new "gamers" that are happy with a shadow of what gaming has / could be.
fathom wadi
They say they offer raytracing but I have an Xbox series X and they only do RTX at 30fps. It looks shit.
pearl elk
Call it the Real Panel, where the Unreal meets Reality
!8ball would there be any games rated over 55%?
turbid spindleBOT
@pearl elk, :8ball: Outlook not so good.
fathom wadi
Elden Ring would be
We should have a panel that reviews other gamer panels.
"Personally I think this fanboy was way off. Obviously paid up in free skins for the game"
same
pearl elk
Can I sell an NFT of my panel slot?
fathom wadi
What would make flight simulator really cool is if you could drive around. Screw flying.
fathom wadi
"Blizzard Entertainment presents....... "
You must purchase a token to see this content.
carmine frigate
ahh i 4got about the transform thing
night grove
What panel are you watching?
fathom wadi
Epic are saving up to buy a movie studio 😉
pearl elk
Someone should buy EA and shut it down in the name of all the studios they did the same to
pearl elk
Fast forward to the bit where the industrys crashed and we go back to full priced game releases
proud jay
wait that was overwatch?
I joined mid trailer
didn't look like it
wild that they're already promoting blizz stuff before the merger is official
fathom wadi
overwatch 2 is more like a single player game now with some multiplayer attached
proud jay
I think that was the whole point of ow2
upgraded graphics + some hero reworks + single player
and of course full price tag
new bugthesda games
idk f2p but at least with ow1 you can play against people on ow2
wait I thought they killed ESO years ago
fathom wadi
they did what all fails do, rebuilt a few things and sold it as better
pearl elk
Elden Scrolls
proud jay
people still play FO67
fathom wadi
somewhat yeah although I still think that game is lame
proud jay
why did I think all bethesda games were dead lol
where is the 17th skyrim remake though
pearl elk
Whens the new Skynet game Dethesderr
cursive crypt
Some companies should just accept their single-player destiny.
proud jay
everyone wants that live service money
pearl elk
Live service monkey
carmine frigate
was on the phone with some1 for work
proud jay
pump out garbage, get money for preorders, either patch the game after a year or give up on it and run with the money
ez
fathom wadi
The best thing that ever happened for me in FO76 was when my wife said "I hate multiplayer, people just grief me" and I said "there's hardly anyone playing this game anyway". 5 minutes later 2 guys invaded her hideout and started teabagging her whilst she was sleeping.
pearl elk
Why even release a game though, just perpetual seasons of early access
carmine frigate
the guy on the phone went full rage kid mode on his wife.. it was super awwkward
pearl elk
Preorder bonuses endless
proud jay
are they going to show interesting games today as well?
pearl elk
Forza Skyrimzon
proud jay
the elder rides
fathom wadi
Forza 76, all the cars are knackered and constantly in the garage
pearl elk
Thats how I scroll
proud jay
sony did a state of play, so they have to compete
cursive crypt
Hey... I don't mind ES6 or something. Just a sane scripting language, if possible.
proud jay
I think e3 is just dead anyway
pearl elk
E3 is a lie, bow to the god Geoff
proud jay
is this jurrassic parc
proud jay
or S.P.O.R.E 2
cursive crypt
forza dragon? 🤔
pearl elk
We should call it G3 in honour of our god
proud jay
jurrassic p ARK
fathom wadi
Vin Diesel in Chronicles of Forza
pearl elk
Familia
fathom wadi
What is this Unreal thing they keep promoting? Is it just pay to win service?
pearl elk
Doo Maternal
oblique cloak
is every single game on game pass that is crazy tho
pearl elk
Unreal 1 woop woop
proud jay
that's their game pass marketing yeah
oblique cloak
ahh makes sense
proud jay
If I had time to play all games I would definitely take game pass
pearl elk
Everyone rushin to resub
proud jay
good value
pearl elk
They should raise the price for 48 hours hehe
fathom wadi
another Independent Female Mage who don't need no Mana game yay
proud jay
minecraft dungeons 2
fathom wadi
Forza Minecraft
proud jay
mining scrolls
cursive crypt
crypto scrolls
proud jay
MMMORPG where the first M stands for minecraft
cursive crypt
That will do.
cursive crypt
Maybe he talks about the owning of a rent in decimal sense. Like .0001 parts of an apartment.
proud jay
every man's sky?
pearl elk
I played a kart racing game which had car park rental which you could pay for with real money
pearl elk
There is such a thing as crypto farming
proud jay
pls
pearl elk
As opposed to crypto mining where you dig holes in your processor
proud jay
what is this, dungeon defenders 4
fathom wadi
"roguelite action". In other words, not a roguelike
cursive crypt
So... If, I make an weapon for a game, I can nft it and lend it for exchange in crypto coins 🤔
fathom wadi
Bognor Regis Noire
cursive crypt
Kagebunshin Scrolls
proud jay
🥐
proud jay
this is just the housing market all over again
select people will buy all the land and raise prices so no one can pay
is this a game or a slideshow?
pearl elk
So... If, I make an weapon for a game, I can nft it and lend it for exchange in ...
How you get it into the game?
pearl elk
I knew a guy that had 2500hrs in ME3 a year after launch
proud jay
oh no, NetEase, skip this
pearl elk
Skip tokens will cost you
proud jay
wow, Flanders mentioned in a game
wile
I feel validated
wild that obsidian made this
another obsidian game?
this reminds me of it takes two
10 million players?
and I never heard of it
wild
shadow tactics 3d?
wai that's not what I'm thinking of
nvm
too bad I already have a ps5
although most game pass things are pc as well
anyone played V rising btw?
looks kinda cool
cursive crypt
Unreal V?
proud jay
wait that was diablo 4?
wtf that looked so much worse than previous trailers
just a new class
who cares
cursive crypt
Can you nft a random gen item from diablo 5?
proud jay
tbh the diablo 4 reveal trailer kinda hyped me
fleet tangle
<https://store.steampowered.com/app/1604030/V_Rising/>
It's really good.
proud jay
but then diablo immortal destroyed the whole legacy
proud jay
I need diablo but with a lot more horror and gore
sometimes I just want to shit myself ok (of being scared)
remember when gta put an actual casino in their games
good times
solid aurora
good
proud jay
so like diablo with servers
solid aurora
maybe more steady streamy of conent
proud jay
like WoW
top down WoW
the question is, could I convince my gf to ever play this with me
solid aurora
it was dead after first expansion
proud jay
the answer is probably no
proud jay
she was enjoying BotW untill the first bokoblin (or what they're called) and then she was scared of it and quit lol
solid aurora
baseless assumptions
cursive crypt
The year of meteorites
proud jay
more SoT
solid aurora
actually
they are showing in on xbox
which means
Microsoft will have final say
[;
proud jay
well msft did buy them
solid aurora
the takeover is almost over
solid aurora
no but they wont do anything which will make xbox looks bad
proud jay
I am
proud jay
blizzard?
pearl elk
Bleh Diablows
proud jay
but blizzard's rep right now is worse than a literal piece of shit on your face
pearl elk
Rip Blizzard North, may you rest in an endless winter
cursive crypt
So, MS owns EA, Activision and Blizzard.
proud jay
wait, they didn't buy EA did they?
cursive crypt
Ah, yeah, Bethesda.
I don't know, just guessing. They buy everything.
If not they, Sony.
fathom wadi
omg I just saw Path of Diablo 4. What a travesty
cursive crypt
If you are selling, they are buying.
cursive crypt
I think they needed the IP of the Bethesda's Papyrus, the ultimate scripting language.
proud jay
even better than SkookumScript?
cursive crypt
SkoomaScript, yes
pearl elk
BoomerScript
solid aurora
KoomaScript
cursive crypt
They have wares.
proud jay
CoomerScript
pearl elk
ShroomerScript
proud jay
at least they know they have weeb audience
fathom wadi
Team Ninja are my favourite game studio. They never mess it up
Nioh 2 was an absolute masterpiece
proud jay
persona bundle?
apparently persona5 is really good, but I don't want to invest the 300 hours to find out
cursive crypt
What kinda of persona is that?
fathom wadi
I'd like to play Persona but im not a weeb so it makes it difficult
cursive crypt
Does she cook?
fathom wadi
wow
proud jay
hideo bae
cursive crypt
r/unpopularopinion
proud jay
bruh, did he just say nothing?
solid aurora
but i give him credit for creative gameplay ; d
proud jay
ah right he was a sony guy
fathom wadi
nice one Kojima san for that announcement of a future announcement
proud jay
it's like having meetings to plan meetings
cursive crypt
Average management
fathom wadi
Im so happy Scorn pulled it off. I saw the initial announcement years back and knew it could be a piece of art
proud jay
why does he leave 30 hour pauses between sentences
fathom wadi
He's reading a prompt and forgot his glasses
cursive crypt
dx12 minesweeper when?
proud jay
yt only goes up to x2 unfortunately
solid aurora
just dont watch stream
fathom wadi
its just a field of stars
proud jay
but then how do I shittalk in chat
solid aurora
proud jay
wow that was a useless trailer
fathom wadi
"We can travel the stars but we still use microphones from 1982"
proud jay
but will it have skyrim
solid aurora
"We can travel the stars but we still use microphones from 1982"
it's called retro sci fi : D
fathom wadi
wow what a good first look.
proud jay
the shit needs to be in sync
fathom wadi
spoilers. they are ruining the start of the game
solid aurora
that music does so 90% of job
proud jay
so, skyrim in space
fathom wadi
bloody abandoned research facilities. Why do they never take them with them when they leave. That's worth loads on ebay
proud jay
is this no man's sky with saturation turned down
cursive crypt
before Star Citizen
How old you gonna be?
fathom wadi
"It would appear that pirates of the Crimson Fleet are using the facility".
"Ok I will just take them all on by myself because I'm hard AF"
proud jay
at least not fully releasedd
oblique cloak
a lot of people fo rthis game lol
solid aurora
pff im still hyped
proud jay
wow those lock picks were really challenging
cursive crypt
No Citizen Sky
oblique cloak
bro look at the destiny UI
fathom wadi
*opens crate"
- Bobby pin
"oh shit, here we go again"
oblique cloak
over the AI's head
proud jay
this looks so bland to me
cursive crypt
... year 2124, bobby pinning doors
solid aurora
ok
cursive crypt
- reshader
solid aurora
Oblivion
cursive crypt
Have you seen minecreaft trees?
proud jay
so many options lol
solid aurora
uhm well Minecraft trees look better 😄
proud jay
I see they still suck at facial animation
cursive crypt
so many options lol
Not an expert, but this look like rigged survey.
fathom wadi
"Welcome to Constipation. No wait... sorry there's no fibre cereal out here"
proud jay
definitely no man's skyrim
oblique cloak
just remember guys. all you are is a camera riggged to look at the center of the screen. nothing else.
skyrim hair
i cant with it...
fathom wadi
Wait... it's my story? Does it include the abuse and bullying?
proud jay
how have they refined the art of unrealistic facial animation so well
pearl elk
Unannounced Kojima Games are always the best
fathom wadi
whoever made the menu system liked Nier Automata a bit too much
proud jay
can't wait for Life Stranding
pearl elk
PT2
proud jay
PT Pt.2
fathom wadi
well its exactly what I wanted it to be. Fallout in space.
pearl elk
Loud Mountains
cursive crypt
I don't think there is fallout in space
oblique cloak
this game is literally 100+ games merged into one
cursive crypt
I mean, falling where?
oblique cloak
looks decnt tho ill give it a shot
pearl elk
Didnt I play Outer Worlds
oblique cloak
Actually where is the gameplay for outerworlds 2??
proud jay
ok this part is actually a little bit cool
pearl elk
No Mangs Pie
oblique cloak
_<
night grove
proud jay
what happened to todd?
night grove
Oh the stream.. Sorry I turned it off so I could work on the last little bit of the net code for my destruction system.
proud jay
he hasn't tried to sell me skyrim yet
cursive crypt
Definitely not into Space stuff... I mean, where are the dragons?
pearl elk
Sure this will get a Ubisoft graphics upgrade for launch
proud jay
Definitely not into Space stuff... I mean, where are the dragons?
dragonHell?
cursive crypt
Don't mention their name w/o reason
proud jay
ok no way this is going to be a good game now that they said 1000 planets
pearl elk
I like the space P90 and the space double barrel shotgun
cursive crypt
srand() % 1000
oblique cloak
most planets are just dust and rocks
solid aurora
good
pearl elk
"Space" + thing
solid aurora
i want lots of big planets !
cursive crypt
Thinking about it, the space is full with dinosaurs.
oblique cloak
it would be cool is there was an advanced ai system that created structures on those planets.
pearl elk
I want a proper space toilet
cursive crypt
I mean, everyone puts dinosaurs in space.
oblique cloak
every game would be different.
proud jay
oh wow it has same release date as diablo4
pearl elk
I wonder if the still use toilet paper
cursive crypt
Need a recipe for that.
fathom wadi
"Coming 2023". Me too, me too.
pearl elk
Its probably currency
fathom wadi
yeah
zinc matrix
imagine marrying your metahuman
pearl elk
Only in 2023
proud jay
there's people marrying buildings
pearl elk
Can I marry my nft?
cursive crypt
If you have crypto, you can have nft wife.
pearl elk
Crypto life, nft wife
cursive crypt
Thanks for watching... They need to pay for that.
oblique cloak
at least i seen no competitive fps's in there except shitalorant. muhahaha my game will succeed.
proud jay
neither did the rest of the game
pearl elk
I like Scorn, probably the only one since theyre trying to force me to be sociable in Diablo
proud jay
but you need the bugthesda game engine for the extra bugability
craggy kayak
yea lol
cursive crypt
theyarethesamepic.jpg to me
cursive crypt
!8ball wanna star in a game?
turbid spindleBOT
@cursive crypt, :8ball: Signs point to yes.
proud jay
that bottom left is MKBHD's brother
cursive crypt
Manny is the best human
pearl elk
cursive crypt
Does Yoda munch on macaroni? wtf
proud jay
macaron != macaroni
pearl elk
They should make a Homelander game, then I can just go homicidal on puny humans
cursive crypt
Goat Exterminator 2
pearl elk
The Goatinator
zinc matrix
wraith harbor
macaron != macaroni
dieter its 5pm time for your daily pasta
hope you like kismet 
🍝
cursive crypt
I accept crypto.
limpid jewel
yes
cursive crypt
meh
limpid jewel
when I start the game
pearl elk
Hit the turbo button
limpid jewel
sorry XD which is the turbo button
fleet tangle
Windows wouldn't even start if that were the case
cursive crypt
I think it slows down everything.
cursive crypt
Well, maybe if you run 65 ops per second per bazillion cores.
limpid jewel
it shows me 2 screens
pearl elk
Turbo button is next to the reset button
fleet tangle
It didn't run windows 10 though
cursive crypt
Is that Tube?
ah, oh, I see
That pretty impressive
Ah, yeah, the good ole times
cursive crypt
Pipelines clocking on each X front
pearl elk
I think I might be getting too old for gaming 😱
proud jay
never too old
pearl elk
Then why do most the games look like theyre for teens?
pearl elk
Maybe the ageism was always there I was just too young to notice
proud jay
you can play games for teens if you enjoy them though
cursive crypt
Like movies, they are full of stupid stuff, but you suspend your disbelief.
proud jay
you just have to not oversaturate yourself
pearl elk
Maybe I should start betting on horse racing like a respectable adult
cursive crypt
My last hurdle was, all this over-present - you are so unique character, gods smiled on you, rare gifted, so you gotta save the planet, the world and the universe.
wraith harbor
I think I might be getting too old for gaming 😱
🅱️oomer
pearl elk
Def not one of those
pearl elk
Oldest Millennial
cursive crypt
I suppose soon, we gotta see same attitude towards Millenials.
Millenial, eww... so ancient
proud jay
bro give me some time to live first
cursive crypt
2010 was 23 years ago
pearl elk
Im so old we used to be called something before Millennial came along
Best game released in the last decade go
cursive crypt
pearl elk
Thats not released in the past decade
But atleast the movie was better than Assassins Fassbender
pearl elk
I think I gotta go with The Last of Us 2
cursive crypt
Who is US btw?
pearl elk
But that game made me feel things that no other has, sure it pissed me off, it dragged on abit but it was deep.
cursive crypt
Hmm... well, that the important. To me was Hellblade.
pearl elk
Well The Walking Dead games did but that was awhile ago
Hellblade was really great yeah, bit short and easy
cursive crypt
Ah, yeah, as a game... hmm... it is not MMO
pearl elk
That said I felt like God of War was too long and difficult, cant win lol
cursive crypt
Not really into superheroes.
pearl elk
He's def less superheroish in this one compared to the past. Beat em ups changed abit, I miss the old hulking pick up lamp posts and beat people with em till they fly and knock into cars which flash and disappear
I tried getting into mobile gaming, played EA Star Wars, Mutants and NFS but kept hitting paywalls
cursive crypt
Mobile gaming to me is for when you have nothing else to do. Like, you are not home and travelling or something.
Also fries the CPU
pearl elk
Theres actually glimpses of good games there, just spoilt by grind
night grove
Then why do most the games look like theyre for teens?
It's not just games. A sizable chunk if not most media seems to be aimed towards teens / 20s.
pearl elk
Speaking of grind, NMS... jeebus
night grove
The messaging almost seems like life just suddenly ends after your 20s. Or at least it doesn't matter anymore.
pearl elk
When I was a teen we used to watch adult stuff cuz thats what alot of it was aimed towards
Still had teen stuff but there def seems to be more now
Could be whats allowed for streaming too, probably want to keep as much to the PG-M rating as much as possible
soft night
PC gaming show 2022 have some preshow going
pearl elk
Politically Correct Gaming Show
soft night
pearl elk
I always use bolt cutters to build my PCs
Wow glad I have such a good gpu for these amazing PC games
deep copper
you are way more amazing than them <3
quick nexus
Based MW5 gif
thorny dock
this lamda thing is getting really nuts
broken sigil
Weird thing to see when checking the automod 😅
fathom wadi
because most gameplay is dull in those types of games. We have done it to death
they made fallout in space. I can get with that because I had fun with Fallout 4. As long as the story and progression is good I dont mind repeat gameplay
solar bough
YAY I GOT MY NEW PC :3
fathom wadi
not that long ago I dont think. Perhaps 2 years
hmm where TF is my life going
I miss years at a time
this is a side effect of living in Unreal Engine
I only know when versions are released. Like my last birthday was 4.27
solar bough
Lmao
fathom wadi
its the old adage with gaming though. New gameplay doesn't happen very often. The last time we got anything unique was when VR was released.
tulip orbit
Hmm. start/continue/?? throwing together buildings for my RTS, or look for tutorials for blender to help make the buildings not look like ass
quasi mantle
Am I watching Starfield, or No Man's Sky 2?
open fog
Creativity is so undervalued. I lost the sense of direction my game is headed even though I feel like I can code anything.
tulip orbit
yeah I'm feeling lost in my project a bit too
open fog
Thats true and I think why collaboration is probably important. I used to be very creative but forced myself to be more technical minded to overcome challenges. But staring at code harms creativity.
tulip orbit
the vision I had sorta floated away, didnt have it written down enough clearly
open fog
I realise why I'm struggling is I just lack clarity mostly
WHenever I have a clear goal I can usually overcome any technical difficulties.
tulip orbit
I usually can. But one of my goals was material related and that failed miserably
open fog
Material?
tulip orbit
well, mostly failed. I kinda got it working
ue5 materials? the textures? wanted some neat fade in on my meshes, and it doesnt look as good as I'd like it to
open fog
Hmm yeah I should probably take back what I said. In terms of graphics there are some things I'm not capable of. I just learn when to compromise and settle for simpler effects.
tulip orbit
Yeah i made it passable, and itll do for now
open fog
My problem is I'm trying to do a game with controllable insects, and I want them to have different movesets, but in nature they are all actually really similar animals
And I've made my game fairly realistic in some respects
But at the same time I want them all to feel very different to play. Like different starcraft units or something
tulip orbit
The army ants could be slower but tougher
open fog
It's like, I'm too boring to create anything with a scifi/fantasy element and just end up creating something too realistic, which doesnt lend itself to my style of game
They are all types of wasp and bee
Some wasps can spit venom and some can't which I used to differentiate one unit
They have different passive stats
But I want them to feel more different
Like at least one unique active ability per unit
tulip orbit
Id love to help but im on a similar issue with my game, and im completely lost
regal pecan
Movesets, like a fighting game? Even subtle differences are significant in that context. I don't know how those games are balanced, outside of thousands of hours of "testing".
tulip orbit
Ive got a vague idea of what my game/army will be, but cant pinpoint unit ideas
celest musk
well, give them different buffs, e.g. one type is slower but can sprint for a while which makes him better in some circumstances
tulip orbit
fleet tangle
Lol
tulip orbit
🤷
celest musk
but what kind of game is that overall? Arcade? Strategy?
regal pecan
Wasps and bees makes me think flight sim
open fog
Also my other problem is, the game will have hundreds of units, I need to make the player controlled unit really OP to make it feel impactful
celest musk
like, there's a bee game already, but never really looked into it
open fog
there area few
well its like a rts, but you can possess individual units as well: there are two modes, deployment and combat
celest musk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73flbJSprCc that looks pretty cool tho
open fog
yeah i saw that, i started my game before that released, haven't played it
i was stoked to see the idea was successful.
fleet tangle
That's not really an AAA game, though. (It's BeeBeeBee!)
open fog
I believe that has pollen collection as a mechanic?
fleet tangle
Wonder if they had a bee-ta?!
celest musk
stop now 😄
fleet tangle
The puns will never end, you better bee-lieve.
open fog
i do have some issues when I get a gazillion AI but I think I will find ways round it, like simplifying the AI massively when long range
open fog
also I have really scientific names of units
fleet tangle
That's a terrible pun.
open fog
like have you ever heard of a vespa tropica
regal pecan
They couldn't have gone with sugar rush? e.g. dextro
celest musk
sbeed boost would be better, heh?
fleet tangle
That's pretty good.
open fog
Well I hope that did well anyway
fleet tangle
I give that pun a bee+
celest musk
@open fog i hereby grant you permission to use the term sbeed boost
open fog
for the wasps too?
celest musk
no
open fog
I got bumblebees and honey bees
celest musk
wasp speed instead of warp speed, but thats not really good
regal pecan
Maximum vibe
celest musk
bee puns work better
fleet tangle
Do they have weapons? Perhaps stinger missiles?
open fog
This community is also underappreciated imo
regal pecan
it needs more buzz
quasi mantle
Jazz.
celest musk
https://youtu.be/iJxZn5aVx0Q?t=2728 spoiler: boss fight
the more i watch this video, the more i want to play the game
fleet tangle
Terrilbe voice overs and quick time events makes you want to play it?
regal pecan
So the boss fight is... is that a form of QTE?
fleet tangle
Sort of? Idk?
regal pecan
Not sure if it's disrespectful to compare it to a hobbled guitar hero.
fleet tangle
Guitar Hero event.
regal pecan
Should I give credit to Dance Dance Revolution instead?
celest musk
yea, maybe because ive never played something similar
fleet tangle
That is one of the worst games I've ever seen.
celest musk
like i want to know how those game mechanics feel, i thought the QTE thing isn't a bad idea for some things
regal pecan
Trying to think of anything that would fit in that category of some things.
celest musk
also it kind of has good ratings, probably because it filled a niche
regal pecan
"This babysat my toddler for hours longer than expected. Most pleased!"
graceful sequoia
I dunno the gameplay reveal for starfield looks pretty rad. Todd gets my money again.
regal pecan
So according to this game, leaving out rotten apples will get bees sick and they go back to their hive to recuperate.
The art is far more decent than the game mechanics.
night grove
That is one of the worst games I've ever seen.
With that glowing review... I had to see it for myself
Yeah it's terrible
regal pecan
terribeele
regal pecan
NSFT = Not Safe For Twitch
oblique cloak
NSFT = Not Safe For Twitch
But amaranth is...
regal pecan
Starfield feels like someone wanted to answer Destiny by combining No Man's Sky with The Division.
tulip orbit
wait. what I was I doing? I think I spaced out for a bit there
and by a bit, a half hour.... wtf
regal pecan
Creating a gameplay vertical slice for TheStruggleIsReal, clearly
tulip orbit
noooo..... I need to do that for my game...
hearty iris
Hi is there any channel where i can ask for help?
tulip orbit
points to channel list
hearty iris
having problems with lighting on ue4 i don't want to post in the wrong place
left granite
just a kind reminder Lain , if you do get banned we wont be taking any responsibility 😉
quasi mantle
I guess it would be part of the serial experiment.
tulip orbit
cereal?
cursive crypt
Oat makes you fart, remember that.
tulip orbit
everything makes me fart
cursive crypt
Sounds like superhero ability.
tulip orbit
look out! Its Gasman!
pearl elk
Wheres the games about farts?
cursive crypt
Fartsim 2022
tulip orbit
Wheres the games about farts?
tulip orbit
was free on epic a little while ago. I havent gotten around to trying it yet
pearl elk
Oh its a cartoon
zinc matrix
weird
feels like 2000's game
but cover art/thumbnail game is strong
atleast got my attention
😄
this looks like mario kart
lol
regal pecan
Pretty sure that just made automod break out into hives. Spammus deleetus!
proud jay
was it free nitro again?
regal pecan
Just an @everyone spam for a discord channel
proud jay
nice
regal pecan
In every channel
regal pecan
Doesn't stop a bot from trying. And doing it in every channel, which seems excessive, but that wouldn't stop a bot either.
cursive crypt
It does not cost any effort to spawn a bot.
rare sparrow
Just an \@everyone spam for a discord channel
How'd you @ everyone like that without it being highlighted blue? 🤔
regal pecan
Using backslash as an escape character
proud jay
@rare sparrow like this
wait lol
it automatically changed to the number lol
@rare sparrow
regal pecan
What did you even do
rare sparrow
It still works too
proud jay
nice
regal pecan
heh
proud jay
@proud jay
regal pecan
`\```
proud jay
regal pecan
\
cursive crypt
\
proud jay
\
regal pecan
_ _
cursive crypt
I want too T.T
cursive crypt
` `
proud jay
embrace the void
regal pecan
×
rare sparrow
proud jay
I see you're a big crab rave fan
what partnered server do you own?
official crab rave party?
cursive crypt
** ** <
regal pecan
proud jay
> <
rare sparrow
No, just a community ran server for a game franchise
regal pecan
I forget the difference between > and >>>
cursive crypt
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proud jay
I think the triple is for block quotes
cursive crypt
There is even next level
proud jay
ur mom
cursive crypt
vs
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cursive crypt
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proud jay
** **
vs
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is that that random zero width character
cursive crypt
Empty space
proud jay
or is it || ||
proud jay
but how
cursive crypt
No, on two rows
cursive crypt
yes
proud jay
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rare sparrow
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proud jay
**
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cursive crypt
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proud jay
ah works with ** ** over multiple lines too
proud jay
ah not it still shows character if you select over multiple message
s
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|| is superior
regal pecan
|| ||
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cursive crypt
Ultimate
regal pecan
That's a bit long.
proud jay
that's what she said
cursive crypt
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proud jay
discord life hacks
cursive crypt
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regal pecan
||\ || looks weirder in edit mode
zinc matrix
cursive crypt
hmm
Anyway
proud jay
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regal pecan
spoiler doesn't work over multiple lines for me
regal pecan
|| pretty
sure this will just be plain font ||
...That defied expectation.
Hm, just doesn't match what happens in edit mode.