lounge

[cursive crypt]

On side note: I like morning shopping, few people, full rafts.

[last matrix]

that is one way. Another could be post process. I assume whether = rain/snow since that's most common. Combining particle and pp is also possible. Though you would want to sync up the skydome if it's outside

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTYJJad6aJQ

what is this madness

[quasi mantle]

Lots of things come into play

[cursive crypt]

Hey, your one-button-game was already made

[quasi mantle]

Desert Bus

[zinc matrix]

GTA V tracks done right

...

i never was able to get into trackmania

i like the concept of futuristic tracks but they take it too far, some are difficult even to know which path you should drive

[cursive crypt]

TIL

[deep copper]

pompom pompom pompom
tomAtoes ?!

[zinc matrix]

Hello

Welcome to the video for

what is the "get all actors of class 🧐 "

[quasi mantle]

File name supports Unicode, but not whitespaces

[thick belfry]

Observation, half the posts on /r/gamedesign are "whats the technical name of highly specific feature that has no name" and the other half is "please design my game"

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedesign/comments/uf07bu/technical_term_for_the_following/

[deep copper]

people need help and such platforms give a simple route to those people, that's probably why you see them more there 🙃

[tired dust]

Hey

[cursive crypt]

Aww
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/uep767/we_are_game_designers_john_romero_wolfenstein_3d

[robust shale]

Yeah saw that 🙂 Super cool, though I'd wanted more from less leveldesigners. Gimme some levelord and Sandy Petersen

[cursive crypt]

That kinda dope
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/first-person-shooter-the-definitive-fps-doc#/

[cursive crypt]

Aye, that would be cool too.

[robust shale]

The whole story about how Robert Duffy started fixing IDs editor as a pet project and then got hired is pretty legendary too

So many editors...

Always felt lame that I used WC (that became hammer) instead of BSP or QuakeEd as all the cool kids

[cursive crypt]

UT remake? "Not while Epic is making BANK from Fortnite" :/ so true

[robust shale]

We have a UT remake, It's called Apex Legends 🙂

[timber viper]

Non-BR version pls

I'd sacrifice my soul for non-BR Apex Legends

[robust shale]

Law Breakers (and Diabotical) pretty much proved that kinda gameplay isnt viable any more at AAA studio level

I'd center it around CTF or Freeze Tag. Much more spectator friendly

[timber viper]

I just want CoD but not developed by Activision

Fast-paced action, basic rules, no movement fuckery

Apex Legends has some crazy movement schema but its tolerable, because it doesnt outlaw regular FPS players

[fleet tangle]

Quake 1 and 3 had great movement.

[robust shale]

I just want Rjumping as a game mechanic and Rocket based gameplay and no railgun 🙂

Four weapons should be enough for anyone

[timber viper]

Only if Quake Champions would be cool as Q3

[fleet tangle]

What happened to Quake Live? That was a cool model for a game.

Don't think I've ever seen a non-mmo-ish fps game go f2p in a web client like that... and still be good.

[robust shale]

Poor support from more and more incompetent Bethesda driven management

[fleet tangle]

Oh. That was a Bethesda thing?

Ah I guess they did buy iD.

[robust shale]

Yeah, and employees started leaving one by one, almost no one left now

[fleet tangle]

From Bethesda as a whole or just the iD staff that got bought?

[robust shale]

From ID, god knows what goes on at Bethesda actual 🙂

[fleet tangle]

Murdering babies probably.

[robust shale]

Need those for work

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/2022new-year-wishes-gif-24330578

[cursive crypt]

... five months later

[slow imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm0nLJuRNbw

[deep copper]

how was your birthday? had fun?

[slow imp]

It was good! thank you :3

[fathom wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/grilled-cheese-cake-dip-eat-eating-gif-9645671

[pearl elk]

Didnt EA release a game called Rocket Arena?

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-hungry-yummy-nom-nom-hangry-gif-17624677

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-mr-bean-funny-gif-24701394

[quasi mantle]

Ironically CoD started off as id Tech 3 game

[timber viper]

I cant even imagine the tech debt it has

[pearl elk]

Best way to solve technical debt is to release more sequels

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/simo-humala-vappu-spede-vesku-gif-11757006

[pearl elk]

Weapon charms keep the bugs away you see

[soft night]

almost a mayday as its mayday eve

[fathom wadi]

I wonder who was the bright spark who invented the "keychain on a gun" cosmetic for games. I mean.... kudos for creating something completely irrelevant but it becomes a staple of gaming.

[deep copper]

how else will you carry it easily

[cursive crypt]

Can you guess when UE is focused by looking at this GPU graph? Peaks at 100 degC

https://tenor.com/view/ashlabeth-eyes-magnifying-glass-gif-13320152

[quasi mantle]

Apparently Unreal Engine crashes if you leave it overnight

[pearl elk]

it got lonely and bored

so it went to sleep

[timber viper]

I'm curious of crash log

[quasi mantle]

It happens in my installed build with debug symbols removed lol

Interestingly enough the source build still survives

[timber viper]

Hmm, crash log still able to gather callstack and return it as a log though, thats why UE lags too much when you run it with non-debug mode in IDE

[quasi mantle]

So the crash log exploded to 2 GB lol

[timber viper]

woah

[quasi mantle]

So much so that all of my text editors refuse to open it lmao

[pearl elk]

try VS

[quasi mantle]

I'm gonna try Rider, somehow I have stray installation of it

[deep copper]

i wonder what's the size limitation of say, notepad

[quasi mantle]

2048 MB I think

[deep copper]

so 2047 allowed?

[quasi mantle]

Yes, I had output log full of Compiling Shader, almost hitting 2 GB and it opens on Notepad

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-huh-stupid-idiot-gif-5042504

[quasi mantle]

Imagine Rider's last hurrah on my computer is to try open 2 GB of log file
Then I'll ceremoniously uninstall it for good

[pearl elk]

whats notepad?

is that like sublimetext only shit

[cursive crypt]

Discord glitched, was going to complain about stupid UE, unable to export PNGs in year 2022

[deep copper]

it's "not e pad" without spaces

[pearl elk]

so it could be an i pad

[quasi mantle]

Nevermind

Rider says my licence had expired

[deep copper]

aw

[quasi mantle]

He overstayed my welcome anyway :)

Now I can say "Get the fuck out of my computer, Rider"

For good, for real this time.

[deep copper]

un ride my computer

[pearl elk]

it was a good ride while i t lasted

[quasi mantle]

Or not
I had a bumpy ride with it

[deep copper]

you can be a better one <e

3*

[pearl elk]

I always ride it like I stole it

[quasi mantle]

VS2022 in 64-bit doesn't eat as much memory as Rider even in idle

It's like Rider doesn't have some kind of fuel saving feature

[verbal junco]

maybe you are no longer kid

[timber viper]

Either some ambigious error or memory issue

I had that before

[quasi mantle]

Not even VS can open it lol

[deep copper]

try coroutines

[timber viper]

Your poor CPU doesnt wanna read 2gb of lines

[quasi mantle]

At least it reminds me to uninstall Rider

[pearl elk]

that log file, it wasnt filling up a drive completely was it?

[quasi mantle]

Nope

[deep copper]

man it sounds like a nightmare, to dev with ue

[pearl elk]

nah this stuff is brilliant compared to working with government computers 😛

[deep copper]

i can understand i suppose xD

[pearl elk]

imagine having your fingers cut off and told to code

[quasi mantle]

*third world government computers

[timber viper]

Its limit is 2gb afaik

Thats why its 2gb

[fathom wadi]

I remember doing a networking course, using Novell netware on Windows NT 4.0, then taking a government job and having to work in a legacy system entirely in dos.

[deep copper]

should have set to 1.99 and opened with , something

[quasi mantle]

I was asleep when it reached 2 GB lol

[timber viper]

Imagine applying a job in a bank or a hospital in US, you end up writing COBOL

[fathom wadi]

COBOLLOCKS more like

[deep copper]

ah, but like, why is it not less than 2GB by default xD

[quasi mantle]

Or applying job in Indonesian government and had to use self made software with terrible UI

[pearl elk]

I love having my own PC I can setup the way I like even if I cant do exactly what I want it could be alot worse. Futures looking grim for people who want to control their own hardware though

[deep copper]

the future is looking grim in general ig

[quasi mantle]

Government computers have worse spec and software than my phone lol

And I'm not sure about the software but I'm willing to think they were made with Visual Basic

Since VB books were more common than C++

[pearl elk]

I saw the future and it looks like Death Stranding

[quasi mantle]

And I'm sure as hell they don't use C#/.NET

[deep copper]

reminds me, i got the c++ primer book pdf, it's, uh, 1k pages

[pearl elk]

Ive been storing my number 1s n 2s for ammo already

[deep copper]

i wish i got that reference 😢

[pearl elk]

you need to play some games, less riding 😛

[quasi mantle]

There's barely any C#/.NET job vacancy for local government IT dept lol

[fathom wadi]

it's ok. only 25 pages need referencing, the rest are pointers :p

[deep copper]

i haven't started reading it so i don't get that yet xD

[quasi mantle]

What drum pattern should I play for this?

[fathom wadi]

dammit. That was a quality joke too

[deep copper]

dw ! i will get back to it, in a few months...

[fathom wadi]

if I may suggest C++ for Dummies. It's not an insult, it's actually a really good book to get started with

[deep copper]

thanks! i will keep that one in mind, i am only reading this because of a deal with lorash 🙃

[fathom wadi]

cool. It never hurts to know some C++

it just hurts to know it all :p

[quasi mantle]

graphic imagery warning
||and yes, it's 2021.1.1 because it's a stray install I forgot to get rid of||

[pearl elk]

put some feedback

[deep copper]

"rider for kid"

[pearl elk]

shoulda seen the feedback I gave google when I uninstalled Chrome 😛

[deep copper]

"too fat"

[quasi mantle]

I don't want to trash talk about memory usage lol

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/ren-and-stimpy-memories-gif-20083366

[deep copper]

just write something like "sorry but i didn't use it really, please don't feel bad 🫂 "

[quasi mantle]

Also pls don't summon battletoad, it's NSFL

[pearl elk]

"fix ya shit" is a typical one of mine

[deep copper]

haha aggressive,

[pearl elk]

nah, just blunt

[deep copper]

there's no gif related to blunt, weird

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/what-you-need-is-a-fatty-boom-batty-blunt-smoke-blunt-joint-gif-16887148

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-wolf-of-wall-street-boom-shaka-laka-leonardo-dicaprio-gif-14207634

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hulk-out-hulka-mania-gif-8108493

oh wow, yeah Rider might not be that great for large projects

this cache processing is gonna take ages

[deep copper]

are you also a rider?

rider user*

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/ruff-ryders-rough-riders-screaming-yelling-scream-out-gif-18240485

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/ryder-brick-stonks-brick-stonks-fortnite-gif-24352144

[timber viper]

Poor BattleToad always have to read and decide if its worthy to reply when he is searching for R1der keywords in this server

No one uses R1der

First time hearing about it

My dreams..

[deep copper]

the blog got released ?

[slow imp]

I used rider a lot with untiy/c#

[quasi mantle]

I tried my best to mark the image spoiler, it's too NSFL

[quasi mantle]

Have this playing in the background
https://youtu.be/p8BCVVUSmWo

[deep copper]

xD

nice

[quasi mantle]

BTW Rider users:
Does arrow ligature works in Rider? It doesn't work in VS2022 but other ligatures do work

[pearl elk]

you'll have to install it to find out 😛

[quasi mantle]

Fuck no

Rider has overstayed my welcome

Or maybe the other way around

[pearl elk]

your welcome has overstayed my rider? 😛

[verbal junco]

you have overstayed rider's welcome?

[quasi mantle]

Yes, probably

Given that my extended free trial from preview has busted

[verbal junco]

the correct terming would be rider has overstayed its welcome

it is no longer welcome

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/hackers-hacking-math-coding-dade-gif-17658385

[deep copper]

your over riding welcome has stay

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I3NGAm3j_4

this is pretty interesting

[deep copper]

you are more

[quasi mantle]

I guess you failed flirting on me so you flirt on others

[verbal junco]

well at least they're honest

[timber viper]

LD: "So how tf you want me to prevent player from swimming in an area dedicated for swimming?
Animator: "..."

[quasi mantle]

Makes more sense than Tommy Vercetti

[timber viper]

What is LBA2

Another game that is older than me 😦

lmao, thats awesome

It looks interesting ngl

There is even proper shadowing

And specular

Oh no 😂

Its not realtime right

Lighting

is not realtime

Or should I say dynamic

1997s had dynamic lighting tech huh

I thought it became thing after 2000s

Not bad

[verbal junco]

yesterday I met a graphics programmer who works in the industry who was born in the year 2k

[timber viper]

Especially you two

Auntie Lorash and uncle CE

[verbal junco]

can't wait to achieve warren spector status at some point during the next decade or two

[timber viper]

Like being dead?

[verbal junco]

I had to double check Warren's wiki page after that, why you playing with me like that

[timber viper]

I dont even know who Warren is

[verbal junco]

I wanna link this with that video presentation I posted a while ago on how civilization slowly is forgetting stuff because knowledge isn't being passed on

cake? lie? what means?

[verbal junco]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Spector

[timber viper]

Hey I've played that

Wouldnt miss something like that

[verbal junco]

that's a good point, though there's probably a fine line between what knowledge is worth passing on and what is obsolete

[timber viper]

Your great/grandparents probably fought in WW1 or 2

WW2 then

WW1 horror stories are rare

[verbal junco]

mine did, grandpa got captured by the russians

[timber viper]

For how long?

[verbal junco]

until the end of war, probably some 3-4 years

[timber viper]

Should be a very difficult thing to live

[verbal junco]

well considering gulags were a thing

[timber viper]

Did you ever listen him by yourself while explaining those things?

[verbal junco]

never had the chance

he was gone by the time I was of an age where I could have understood it

[timber viper]

Gulags look less horrible than Auschwitz

But still horrible

[timber viper]

At least from a country culture that didn't intervene in WW2, dont mind my ignorance

[verbal junco]

I mean they were prison camps, not death camps

in concentration camps you were almost guaranteed death, in gulag there was just a very high chance

[timber viper]

"a very high chance" is almost equal to "guaranteed death" though 😅

[verbal junco]

yeah there was a point other than death with gulags

[timber viper]

Gulags look like WW2 version of what's happening in East Turkestan but less media attention and lack of UN

[timber viper]

Cute and deadly anime girl theme catches my attention easily but they rarely keep up with the first immersion they show

Generally they are being shy and pointless making me stop watching them

Aaaandd I assume shakugan no shana is also something like that?

On which ep are you

Whats your rate? ?/10

That's a "not bad" rate

4.8/10 for me

I really wonder how did you guessed the correct name for the anime name when I asked even while you didnt watch it

lmao

"cute blonde anime girl with glasses"

Yea I know you did an image research just

Tell me best anime thing you've ever watched

[slow imp]

cory in the house

[pearl elk]

warren spector is an anime character

[timber viper]

CE is also a Dark Souls NPC

Yeah, just anything

Why not

[pearl elk]

Maniac Cop, def the best movie ever made

[timber viper]

I know this feeling

So I'm alone at home and it's raining outside

[pearl elk]

scifi is such a liar, wheres my flying car

[timber viper]

I'll just watch it now

[pearl elk]

lol theyre too young to be able to unplug

do you want them to die 😛

[timber viper]

Does it have some scariness? Even a thriller? I'm not usually alone at home and I dont wanna stay sleepless 😂

[regal pecan]

A.I. is a masterpiece of storytelling through motion, but in a cookie sandwich of "I'm 14 and this is deep".

[timber viper]

Eh fuck it, it should be worth it

[pearl elk]

Kubrick wanted the David character to be a CG character

[regal pecan]

Good thing he didn't get his way.

[scarlet cedar]

can really figure out which channel this belongs to so ill just ask it here. i have a door implementation in blueprint which works fine, however it doesnt work after ive networked it. the original implementation has 4 states for the door (open, opening, closed, closing) and the animation is driven by a timeline. im curious if i actually need all 4 states or if i can just have open and closed. if i mark it as open and the animation is still actually opening the door, the door isnt really open, at least not fully which is why opening exists and same for closing. i guess what im asking is how do normal people implement doors which arent instantly open or closed?

hm

i guess theres no issue with doing that. my brain thought of problems that arent really problems

[quasi mantle]

Nice rhyme bro

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-angry-happy-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-21570286

anyone seen Brainscan?

[deep copper]

i haven't given up! i am looking for opportunities

[pearl elk]

is that all I am to you... an opportunity 💔

[deep copper]

if you show enough opportunities, you evolve into a deal

i am yet to see what that evolves to

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/evolution-excited-thrilled-passionate-jim-carrey-gif-20646605

[deep copper]

so uhm, let's 🫂

[pearl elk]

that emoji isnt dark enough though

[deep copper]

there might be a gif that's dark enough!

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/hehehehehe-nigga-hehehehehe-black-laugh-dark-laugh-in-the-dark-gif-17513267

[tulip orbit]

Was just looking at the dev spam channel on my own discord, my project looked pretty good... hmmm

Kinda makes me wanna resurrect it, in ue5

Especially since my current project is kinda.. stalled

[pearl elk]

resurrect all the projects

Im just stealing all Epics stuff and making it look like I did something 😛

[tulip orbit]

I'm just playing satisfactory 😦

[pearl elk]

trying to move your factory in time for the map update?

[tulip orbit]

naw, I started a new game recently, so I havent built in that area

main base in NW corner, but I built a train to the SE corner for my oil

west coast oil is power

starting a new train to bring quartz/silica over to where my computers are being made in prep for next tier

[pearl elk]

I get lazy as soon as it comes to starting up multiple larger locations

they need teleporters

[tulip orbit]

yeah, that'd be awesome

[pearl elk]

hypertubes are cool but they cost so much to setup and theyre still kinda slow

riding higher level conveyors is probably fastest way to travel

[tulip orbit]

specially since I died twice in the south while building the train from falling off the platforms. had to walk to my car, then drive to my corpse, then dissasemble the car to bring it back via train

I build a vehicle highway everywhere, use the buggy to drive

except I only have a train going to the south right now

[pearl elk]

yeah Ive not built roads yet

reminds me abit of Death Stranding

just need the big packages on the back

[tulip orbit]

a main road is pretty much one of the first things I do once I get enough power to make enough mats for foundations, so usually right after coal power

[pearl elk]

I always get stuck at manufacturers and trying to keep everything organised

can produce the stuff I need but its just too slow, I keep looking for the >>> button to speed up time 😛

[tulip orbit]

yup

my base becomes a horrible mess at the start of aluminum

I get things just barely automated, then wander off and watch a movie or something while it produces enough to make something

[pearl elk]

I tend to always be short on plastics

[tulip orbit]

I'm gonna switch my circuit boards over to the alt recipe that uses silica so I can avoid that problem

[pearl elk]

if you knew the tech tree well enough you could stock certain parts in the early game ready for later

never works that way for me though, I just build what I need at the time

[tulip orbit]

I have everything being stocked in fairly large amounts, and overproducing everything I can

machine -> storage -> machine -> storage... etc

computers and HMFs arent being made very fast right now tho. but I just made enough to get them going

[pearl elk]

theyre gonna change the way the overclocking works so that'll be good

the power usage is going to be linear with %

[tulip orbit]

yeah that'll be helpful

might start OCing factories a bit

[pearl elk]

once you get the batteries the energy flow issues tend to be minimal anyway

so the extra power draw from overclocking isnt as bad as it used to be

[tulip orbit]

once I get fuel power I'm good for power for a while...

producing 6450MW, currently consuming 2450... max consumption of 4920

still got plenty of room for more fuel gens 😄

and it shouldnt be tooo long before I have nuclear power

[pearl elk]

Ive never made it to nuclear yet, like I said I get lazy once you need multiple larger bases 😛

[zinc matrix]

I've only played factorio

[tulip orbit]

aluminum always throws me off, its always a mess

[zinc matrix]

but not satisfactory yet

it does have some nasty spiders though doesn't it?

[tulip orbit]

yeah, but I rarely encounter them

[pearl elk]

you can turn them off, they are only in the caves

[tulip orbit]

and some forests

[pearl elk]

yeah, you do tend to have to go through some sort of obstacle to explore

[tulip orbit]

and in your boots

I build way above ground, so I only see them if I'm going to ground to set up a miner, or loot a drop pod

[pearl elk]

yeah I did that last play through, built a huge floating platform over the valley

felt like cheatng though

[cursive crypt]

Masters of planets talking ^

[tulip orbit]

my whole base is floating 😄 touches down at my starting point, and thats pretty much it

[pearl elk]

meanwhile in NMS Im building caverns to keep out of the acid 😛

[tulip orbit]

they do have columns and stuff you can add to make things look supported

[pearl elk]

yeah I bought a few of those at the awesome shop

[tulip orbit]

that shop is pretty great eh?

its almost, awesome

[unreal ether]

is satisfactory good?

ive been debating buying iy

[tulip orbit]

I think its pretty great

[pearl elk]

Its definitely better than it was, but also worse 😛

[tulip orbit]

I've probably got several hundred hours in it... over almost a dozen playthrus

worse?

[pearl elk]

my first play through I didnt even find any caterium, it wasnt until Ambershee said something to me and I was like wtf

you couldnt go very high tier back then though, they didnt have the spacey components

[tulip orbit]

I think when I first played coal power was the highest tier... I spent a lot more time on the ground back in those days

[pearl elk]

smart splitters arnt that smart tbh

[unreal ether]

Playthroughs? Does it have a story?

[tulip orbit]

no story yet

[pearl elk]

its a huge map and it does have a theme which is pretty interesting

[tulip orbit]

I start a new game with every update, and every now and then

brb 🚬

[pearl elk]

after a few times going through you start to ignore the implications and just factory all the things

[tulip orbit]

I just build my factories 🙂

[pearl elk]

factories should make it all smoggy make acid rain which destroys your stuff 😛

I was looking at mods for it last week, there are so many there

theres one where you can breed the doggos and have a whole puppy factory

[tulip orbit]

lol nice

[cursive crypt]

Behold, freaking Windows silently installed for Nth time an UK keyboard layout. \ became # for example.

Worst is, it is not visible in the Layout Settings window...

[ionic siren]

Does anyone know of any chrome plugin or trick or something to allow speeding up the tutorial videos on dev.epicgames.com?

I tend to watch in 3x to 4x depending on how fast and clear the speaker is, so a limit on 2x feels excruciatingly slow when it's a 1 hour tutorial

Nevermind, found one that works on all html5 videos 😄

[ionic siren]

@brisk ether It's an ugly link but here:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-speed-controller/nffaoalbilbmmfgbnbgppjihopabppdk/

[deep copper]

that's the one i use as well, one for all !

[tulip orbit]

wtf is with the security captcha?!

select all elephants drawn with leaves? wtf

[cursive crypt]

So, you are a bot?

[tulip orbit]

apparently

[deep copper]

do you want to drink some oil? 🛢️

[tulip orbit]

Thinking more about going for some sleep. Attempting an update of an old project to 5.0, has a marketplace plugin in the project, so its going as well as you'd expect 😐

[deep copper]

ow

sleep well !

[tulip orbit]

no!

😄

[deep copper]

while you sleep the plugin might get updated! chance chance!

[tulip orbit]

it has been from the looks of the forums, but I gotta update the local files

[deep copper]

sleep early, wake early, do early!

[tulip orbit]

hm. added to engine... not to project... hrmm.... thought I put it in the project originally... I need sleep obviously

[deep copper]

well, if you think you should do it rn, goodluck

[tulip orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-trauma-traumatized-panic-attack-panic-gif-7210516

🚬 than sleep. 'night 🙂

[deep copper]

night night!

[ionic siren]

What music do you guys listen to when you want to shut out the world and concentrate? I think I've exhausted all the Chillstep playlists on youtube. 😛

There are a lot of games with good soundtracks but it's hard to remember/discover the ones that aren't super popular. Whenever I search for game soundtracks I get the usual suspects of skyrim, zelda, doom, bastion etc.

[verbal junco]

I generally listen to the same song for hours until I get tired of it

[ionic siren]

lol, I get tired of the same song after 2-3 repeats

[verbal junco]

I mean once you're in the zone you pay less attention to the music really

it just sort of creates a baseline rhythm

[ionic siren]

yeah but it starts to grate on you subconsciously, so then you're pulled out of the zone by "oh no not this part again"

[verbal junco]

well then find music where you like all parts

[ionic siren]

Easier said than done xD

[timber viper]

My scale is more like "weeks" rather than hours but yeah

[timber viper]

Avenged Sevenfold

[verbal junco]

yeah I mean I can go on for longer than just a day

[timber viper]

I don't stop the music even in the meetings

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/tupac-sad-sigh-gif-13059499

Casually chasing Editor bugs for few hours...

[tulip orbit]

something done fucked up my old project from 4.25. Usually when I try to open with a new engine version it asks if I want to make a copy, or convert in place. It didnt this time and so now I cant get the project to run, or compile....

its still trying to build from 4.25 error MSB3073: The command "F:\UE4\UE_4.25\Engine\Build\BatchFiles\Build.bat'

[quasi mantle]

Game music
Prog rock
Jazz fusion

Anime music too

[cursive crypt]

Lucky you, my level now has some phantom WorldDataLayer object which gets reported each time by the map checks/builds for duplication.

[tulip orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-anger-pixar-inside-out-aaah-gif-5628546

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/table-flip-mad-angry-furious-rage-gif-3962583

[tulip orbit]

It compiled, but it compiled in fucking 4.25. I clicked "switch engine versions" several fucking times

at this point I'm probably better off starting from fucking scratch again

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/may-day-happy1st-day-of-may-celebrate-spring-colorful-celebrating-gif-17073446

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-ok-gif-23395164

[tulip orbit]

ok, no errors now after re-enabling plugin and restarting. Or they went away while I was outside

[deep copper]

does it work now?

[tulip orbit]

course not

[deep copper]

😢

[tulip orbit]

but only one error on a widget when I hit play

[deep copper]

that sounds frustrating

your all motivation to work on it probably went poof

[tulip orbit]

I think I did make modifications to the plugin... by the looks of the error

[deep copper]

so it's a custom plugin ?

[tulip orbit]

marketplace plugin, but it looks like I added a "Speaker" variable to the dialogue nodes (Dialogue plugin)

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-sign-of-the-cross-best-luck-gif-15229225

[tulip orbit]

it ran, my sword is missing tho so I cant attack.. or open doors...

[deep copper]

looks like your sword ran away with it

anyway, that's quite some progress !

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-beckett-fuck-off-sword-gif-12617660

[tulip orbit]

what I've faced so far has been nothing. I'm now looking at my code 😱

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/dogecoin-doge-corndoge-corn-dog-milgatetyler-gif-23803253

[deep copper]

did you sleep btw?

and thanks for reminding me to not get into coding seriously, ever

[tulip orbit]

meant my BP code, but, yeah. its messy, but theres lots of stuff going on, so I just need to re-learn what the hell I was doing

got a bit of sleep, not as much as I wanted 😄

the project content is probably a mess too

but it runs, which is awesome

[deep copper]

...what are your thoughts on remaking?

[tulip orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-flip-desk-freak-out-mad-gif-15503485

[deep copper]

you will probably have to clean up a lot 🫂

[tulip orbit]

Yeah

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/v-appu-husky-jussi-gif-21377243

[deep copper]

look a cute dog !

[deep copper]

adorable kitty ! look it also has errors !!!

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ham-overload-cant-compute-error-gif-7957305

[left granite]

i

[deep copper]

L

[left granite]

o

[unreal ether]

S

[deep copper]

t

[left granite]

m

[unreal ether]

Y

[left granite]

h

[unreal ether]

E

[left granite]

a

[unreal ether]

R

[deep copper]

t

[left granite]

😭

[unreal ether]

Sad that we went for heart instead of helicopter

[deep copper]

you can still add a H and make it hearth

[unreal ether]

No its perfect and sad as is

[deep copper]

also, hea, could've used D for head

[unreal ether]

Or p for heap

[deep copper]

or t for

well, nvm, this is perfect for representing lounge

[left granite]

or heal

[tulip orbit]

or you couldve used the letter n, o, b, c and a, to spell bacon

[unreal ether]

Or a for heaaaaaa

[left granite]

or we couldve used u r a q t

[tulip orbit]

whats a traug?

[unreal ether]

Or f, i, t, e, n, s, g, a, m, r, p, c for fitness gram pacer test

Hate it when i lose that

[tulip orbit]

I have no idea how the attacks in my game are being done 🤔

[deep copper]

make it, hug to kill

[left granite]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-bruh-bearr-bearrrr-gif-22701476

[tulip orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/animal-vs-human-animal-attack-bear-gif-14527012

[deep copper]

animals are scary

[tulip orbit]

[deep copper]

but you are not

[tulip orbit]

yes I am

[deep copper]

i want to find out

[tulip orbit]

boo!

see?

scary.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-sitting-down-park-bench-waiting-patient-gif-16359379

see that bear just want some food

[tulip orbit]

he's waiting for some service

[deep copper]

i am not afraid yet! try harder<3

[tulip orbit]

too tired to try harder

[deep copper]

then, let me help you relax

[deep copper]

this looks so tame compared to that above

[pearl elk]

Programmers dont relax

We decompile

[deep copper]

then, can i decompile you?

[pearl elk]

Nope you need to learn how to recompile first

[deep copper]

teach me <3

i want to know every, single, step, involved.

[tulip orbit]

do I not look relaxed? https://c.tenor.com/eqV9dt7xykMAAAAd/donald-duck-insane.gif

[pearl elk]

I cant teach you the double cone icream technique, its a secret

[deep copper]

you look, like you are having a good time atleast

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-cream-cone-sweets-gif-12376485

[tulip orbit]

i'm fine. https://i.imgur.com/ImvEVzi.gif

[deep copper]

you clearly need sleep 😭 📉

[pearl elk]

I like how this kids cartoon character has been smoking

[deep copper]

it's just paper rolls

and such

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-gif-18629308

Actor iterator returning twice the same object.

[deep copper]

😔

[pearl elk]

Are you sure its the same object and not your ghost

[cursive crypt]

Its his quantum bro according to UE

[pearl elk]

Check which data layer each is on

[cursive crypt]

Its really the same obj, same memory address.

Quantum entanglement.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-movie2-dr-robotnik-tea-sipping-tea-sips-tea-gif-25258202

[deep copper]

maybe it has schizophrenia

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-my-tails-gif-22231352

[pearl elk]

Gah why would the iterator do such a thing

[deep copper]

maybe the iterator stored reference to it twice because it was feeling lonely

[cursive crypt]

I dunno, could be the world/level is screwed?

[pearl elk]

Pretty sure the way the iterator works you cant directly access its internal list so nothing can modify it from the outside

Dupe checks are surely done on actor spawn

[cursive crypt]

It is as simple as FActorIterator iter (world);

And then going on. The Editor also uses the same code and reports a duplication.

[pearl elk]

Did you try deleting it and making a new copy of that actor?

Maybe, rename the dupe you got access to and create a dummy with the same name and delete that

And dont forget to force a GC

[cursive crypt]

That an ass-special object, WorldDataLayer, cant be touched.

Same object sits on position 3 and 4 in the actor array inside the world... huh.

[pearl elk]

Ahh what a pain, youve obviously encountered a bug with the data layers.

Ive had similar with sub levels but I was able to fix it by creating a new copy of that actor and deleting it. Sometimes you'd get actors like hanging references, it wants the actor to be there but its not

[cursive crypt]

Not sure what to do... The level took some time to setup... should I recreate it, just in case. Or it is a damn bug which just adds twice that weird class.

[pearl elk]

Dangling reference thats the term I was after

Do you get any errors when you open that level?

[cursive crypt]

Just the map check (or whatever level build) complains each time that there is an actor with duplicated GUID.

Maybe there are some random crashes when building the hlod, and now I pressed Edit on the level and it crashed with memory leak 🙂

[pearl elk]

Yup dangling reference is memory corruption

[cursive crypt]

Its the same obj added twice... wtf really

[pearl elk]

It could be two different objects, one was removed but the reference remained then points to the newly created object whic was created after

[cursive crypt]

The same two pointers, there is something else which duplicates that.

Kinda wonder whether I can move all actors to a new level as they are 🤔 Or at least selected.

*world

[pearl elk]

Might be the only way to go unless you want to dig into the engine

[hollow star]

High, new here

[pearl elk]

Does concern me though that this bug exists, hopefully its rare

[cursive crypt]

Me too... Not sure how to move the actors tho.. hmm.

[pearl elk]

Open two editors, copy/paster

[cursive crypt]

This means new Project?

[pearl elk]

Nah open same project different level

[cursive crypt]

hmm... gonna try.

[pearl elk]

Its not a load on open project level is it, maybe change that if it is. You dont want that corruption loading in at all

[cursive crypt]

huh? Why does it matter, it needs to be saved. I mean the map should be abandoned, apart from the landscape as I believe is connected to the datalayer obj in question.

[pearl elk]

If you load the corrupt level GC wont be able to clean the dangling reference when changing levels

[cursive crypt]

That object lives in the map. I wont migrate the map.

Just the actors, but will do - being superstitious now.

[pearl elk]

Yeah I wouldnt take any chances, serious bug

[deep copper]

deadly

[cursive crypt]

... and in the beginning it was darkness

[pearl elk]

is that the bug

[deep copper]

blood red bug

[pearl elk]

cant kill it with fire, need an ice weapon

[cursive crypt]

huh, shit... cant move the heightmap

[mossy nexus]

export it instead, first.

[cursive crypt]

It does not want to import.

You thought it will be easy, huh

[deep copper]

have you turned it off and on again?

[fleet tangle]

One does not simply import into Unreal. Tim Boromir

[deep copper]

boromir reminds me of a dude in lotr

he died tho i think

or not idk

[pearl elk]

lol wtf

https://tenor.com/view/boromir-gift-lord-of-the-rings-it-is-a-gift-sean-bean-gif-13955891

[deep copper]

oh wait

how did i forget this one xD

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-got-eddard-stark-sean-bean-chuckles-gif-13516194

[fleet tangle]

Sigh.

Many sighs!

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-the-hobbit-sigh-really-again-gif-19898644

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/one-does-not-simply-facepalm-mordor-gif-14797008

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/one-and-done-just-one-one-time-thing-just-once-one-time-is-enough-for-me-gif-15328805

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/one-does-not-simply-vcs-version-control-gif-24220935

[pearl elk]

why do these environment tuts never talk about gameplay

[deep copper]

games are for children, but talking about environment is not

[pearl elk]

cant wait for all these interactive films to be released on UE5 😛

[deep copper]

there interactive films for ue5 now?

[pearl elk]

well there arnt many games hehe

[deep copper]

xD

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/nasa-nasa-gifs-orion-engines-test-engine-gif-9398126

[echo stag]

is this the main lobby?

[soft night]

this is lounge

[cursive crypt]

kicks

[soft night]

when someone say is this "main lobby"

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-tails-sega-gaming-annoyed-gif-17575567

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/gunshot-shooting-firing-gun-fire-guns-gif-5640798

[fleet tangle]

Is that Miles from Sonic? Or another random fox?

[echo stag]

Should i delete Unity and get Unreal 5?

[soft night]

Tails @fleet tangle

[fleet tangle]

Oh.

[cursive crypt]

To Mile or to Tail, never knew.

[fleet tangle]

Tails is Miles.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-x-tails-happy-tails-miles-prower-sonic-x-tails-wagging-miles-wagging-tails-gif-21762858

[fleet tangle]

His name is Miles Prower. Miles Per Hour. Lol.

[cursive crypt]

Proudly named.

[fleet tangle]

That was just bad.

[echo stag]

@or\

is that a user

[turbid spindle]

@zinc matrix, :8ball: Ask again later.

[solid hull]

!8ball is C# better?

[turbid spindle]

@solid hull, :8ball: Without a doubt.

[zinc matrix]

Is that a Utah test site for the emergency abort system for a rocket? My friend actually worked on

My friend actually worked on that

[echo stag]

@solid hull im not into coding

Wheres a good channel on here for new users

[fleet tangle]

#food

Damn it.

[deep copper]

i mean #more-resources

so, #more-resources man

[deep copper]

does anyone know what's the difference between "perticular" and "particular" ? google isn't being very helpful, perticular is (particular) while particular is (obsolete) pertaining only to a part of something; partial. are they the same? does particular mean obsolete? is particular obsolete? is perticular showing "is" as in existence?

[echo stag]

@deep copper thanks

[modest bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKEIHfFeTWQ

Looks like he played around with Unity

[pearl elk]

Particular as in relating to particles, perticular as in relating to percolators

[deep copper]

😵‍💫

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-power-up-db-gif-11211679

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-walking-away-money-raining-money-explosions-gif-16685519

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-tony-stark-iron-man-avengers-the-avengers-gif-9135063

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-explosion-gif-21768412

[verbal junco]

nice, but not as impressive as: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Og5Tg_Jyo

[oblique cloak]

I spent 2 days learning how to pack uvs correctly >_< man o man, no wonder why people dont do this type of stuff for free

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-k9-spin-fourth-doctor-robot-dog-gif-22054166

[quasi mantle]

Definately.

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/yamero-stop-it-stop-glitch-bird-gif-15552622

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/let-there-be-light-austin-evans1-light-up-switch-on-the-light-lights-on-gif-17352933

~4h later

[deep copper]

ah, thanks a lot !

[verbal junco]

nice! seems like you're ready for your first #graphics question in #level-design

[cursive crypt]

I'm not returning back there.

[verbal junco]

good call

[cursive crypt]

Several months free from addiction.

[echo stag]

where is mentor channel

[pearl elk]

Its right here

I do free mentoring for those wanting to get into lounge sales

[quasi mantle]

Or making pump and dump cryptocoins

[echo stag]

I want to go the self taugh route

I have an interest in UI, 3D, and motion design

i dont know where to begin

[pearl elk]

You need a pencil and a piece of paper

[echo stag]

go it

[deep copper]

https://learn.unrealengine.com/ i only know of this site, it's also there in pinned messages in #ue4-general

and probably pinned in a few other channels also at this point

[quasi mantle]

You need a pencil and paper, and start doodling UI designs.

No joke, that's how I got started getting into graphic design stuff. Doodling imaginary game UI in a paper as a kid

[deep copper]

i mean, that's probably how you note down graphical stuff anyway

[pearl elk]

I found my 3d modelling got so much better after I learnt to draw better

[deep copper]

there's probably no other fast enough method

[quasi mantle]

And certainly not something you get instantly proficient at overnight

[echo stag]

I know

i been drawing for years

but im no digital concept artist

[pearl elk]

Then you probably want to learn UMG

[echo stag]

Universal Music Group?

[deep copper]

#umg

[echo stag]

alright uninstalled halo infinite going to download unreal

unreal 5

for windows

[slow imp]

what whiteboard programs do ya'll use?

trello, etc

or any other tools for productivity

[primal summit]

sharpie on desk

[echo stag]

sharpie on white board lol

[primal summit]

dry erase on desk works too

[echo stag]

Unreal enging 5 is 32 gigabytes

Engine*

[honest sapphire]

Like with all things code designing this quest system has been the bane of my existance for the last 72 hours

but you gotta step outside your comfort zone sometime right?

[echo stag]

I dont like coding

[timber viper]

Check FlowGraph

Dont reinvent the wheel

[verbal junco]

@timber viper it's not the collapse of civilization, but it's an interesting insight into neuroscience and neuroaesthetics (this time not just considering human beans): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvg242U2YfQ

[timber viper]

Will watch this night

[verbal junco]

if you're not at least reinventing 2 wheels concurrently are you even programming?

[timber viper]

Why you are so right

[verbal junco]

because it's what I do for a living 😎

[timber viper]

I was almost going to think you were a level designer, then

[verbal junco]

I meant I am being right for a living 😎 level designing is just how I show it

[timber viper]

You beat me

[verbal junco]

also the dude from that video does electronic music, this nodal setup as a loop for sounds looks amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1BzGaz62PE

[timber viper]

Dogs love us while we sound that ugly

That's something respectable

[verbal junco]

I thought the same thing until I realized that there is a general rule that lower pitches make you feel safer while higher pitches make you feel unsafe. at least in human psychology. but perhaps it's the same for dogs

[timber viper]

I can't focus because of cuteness of the animals

[verbal junco]

it does make it harder true

that's true

I have no answers

I'm still a newbie scholar in dog neuropsychology

[timber viper]

I had a friend who recorded his dog while he is showing two different face emotions

They pat attention to mimics more than voice

[unreal ether]

Wait dogs are mimics

https://tenor.com/view/mimic-animation-gif-22142580

[timber viper]

Or was he recorded his voice 🤔

[unreal ether]

I also saw a video like that

Tone matters a lot to dogs

[timber viper]

It's voice then, he saw one of the popular vids similar to this and tried on his own

[verbal junco]

coincidentally, I watched a video earlier that showed some examples of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4tcZAduiVk

[timber viper]

Tom Scott plus?

Didnt know he had a plus

I love the titles he making tough 😂

[verbal junco]

it was randomly recommended to me

I didn't manage to watch it all the way through, but the whole command behavior thing that the dog is doing is very interesting

[oblique cloak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e6zvJqVqlA

such a pain.

[proven rivet]

Silliex - Just tried my game on steam deck and having issues with vc runtime - what did you do to resolve?

[unreal cedar]

ah yeah, I had to do some hacky stuff to fix that

first thing to do is push the UE prerequisites installer to the deck

and then you need to run it under proton. I don't actually know how you'd run an arbitrary executable under proton so I put the prereqs installer in the game directory, pushed it over and set the executable for the game to the prereqs installer

run that once, go through the installer, change the executable back to the game, done.

I might have had to run the prereqs installer in desktop mode too but i don't remember

[proven rivet]

kk thanks - the game is deployed on steam and I can run it from there - but the prereqs confused me

[unreal cedar]

Yeah normally you'd have the prereqs installer run as part of the steam setup.

which I don't know how to configure off the top of my head

When I was experimenting with the deck I was using the devkit functionality that lets you add arbitrary folders as games so I didn't do things the "proper" way

[verbal junco]

I do wonder how anyone can pick anything but Mulan here

[proven rivet]

Finally got it to work - didnt realize I could "run" the prereq installer ( thought it was windows so wouldnt work. but I clicked install and it worked!

[verbal junco]

more so than Elsa, apparently

"honorary" disney princess is like a "honorary" degree from full sail

[unreal cedar]

Ye when I was in desktop mode it didn't let me just run the prereqs installer so I went through the hacky method of adding it as a game. If it did for you them maybe a recent update added that.

I'm sure there's a way to run something via proton on the command line too, I just don't know the command.

[verbal junco]

yes only real topics pls

[proven rivet]

lol

[dusky oxide]

Because this is literally the only active server I’m in, and because its game related, should I make a parliament type game or a built your own aviation industry game

[quasi mantle]

Like one of those Koei's management type of games?

[verbal junco]

welp, my game is screwed then

[dusky oxide]

Never knew those games ever existed, but I mean you make a company like boeing

[verbal junco]

boeing? more like boring

[dusky oxide]

Oh shush

[quasi mantle]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobiz

[verbal junco]

I was waiting for someone to make that connection 🙏

Dependable Lorash™️

complaint
cornplain
coroutine

[quasi mantle]

heavy Indian accent
This is Alex from Microsoft technical support, what can I help you?

[verbal junco]

I chuckled at vindaloop

I shouldn't though

[scarlet cedar]

soooooooooooooo ive spent the last 2 days running ethernet through my house and now i cant ping one of the devices connected. pretty sure its the network card in it though but i will probably die if i have to run a new cable

[pearl elk]

you dont have a cable tester?

[scarlet cedar]

nope

[pearl elk]

yeah you do, grab a device that does work and plug it into that end

[scarlet cedar]

ye true

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/IY1s3/056af5f831.jpg

[night grove]

I was noticing just today my keyboard is really loud if I don't have noise cancellation turned on on my headphones

I need to try more switches. I just went with whatever was popular

I think I have MX browns. Aren't the best for gaming, but w/e

I don't have the energy / time to test out a bunch of keyboards rn

I would like something better for gaming, but I don't spend a lot of time gaming. When I do game it is fairly casual.

Aside from Fortnite, I think most the games I've played in the past year have been on a controller / in VR

I kinda like the sound of mechanical keyboards now

Used to hate it

Squishy keyboards feel cheap now

[zinc matrix]

they always were

just bought new tires

for my vehicle

and damn

that sh*ts getting expensive

$200/tire

we did not in fact

im just mentioning it

[pearl elk]

unreal grip are the best tyres

[oblique cloak]

must be nice to have nice unwrapped uvs >_<

Wow maya 2023 really does it automatically.

[zinc matrix]

Tires*

There is no y in tires

[unreal ether]

ik ur obnoxiously patrotic and all but there is a y in tyres outside of america

[zinc matrix]

Tires are round not shaped like tree branches

I suppose the next thing you're going to tell me is it color spelled with a u

Or that you call a vacation a holiday

And you go to University instead of going to a university

Pssssh!

[unreal ether]

i mean we invented the language ya gits!

at least our pronunciation of the word aluminium isnt based off a misspelling

[oblique cloak]

3 days of learning!! i finally understand unwrapping! YAYYY!!!

[unreal ether]

lies

furiously googled uv wrapping images

[oblique cloak]

Wait til you see the berretta 😮

[unreal ether]

but srlsy nice one :)

[oblique cloak]

understanding the complexity of texel density's and unwrapping is just such a weird process..

[quasi mantle]

Virtual machine?

[oblique cloak]

naw elgato on second pc

[zinc matrix]

It is not a natural formation....

[oblique cloak]

i use my main pc for games and gamedev and second pc for discord and videos and movies

[zinc matrix]

Did you guys know there are only two types of countries in this world?? Those that have been to the moon and those that use metric. Bwahahaha

[unreal ether]

surely a second monitor is much cheaper

[oblique cloak]

i have 6 lol

[zinc matrix]

Oof.

[oblique cloak]

my girl thinks i secretly work for nasa..

xD

[zinc matrix]

Ha

[oblique cloak]

man im so happy, but i dont feel like deving no more

whats everyone up too

[zinc matrix]

just loaded up Halo about to pound some nudes

Noobs*

[oblique cloak]

wtf LOL

[zinc matrix]

I've actually been investigating a PC all afternoon so I got off work

[oblique cloak]

whats the issue?

[zinc matrix]

Ipc

Not a pc lok

Lol

I've also been a little anxious about work I'm worried about getting fired

Fun times

[oblique cloak]

i feel that

i called osha the other day on my job

my supervisor is pissed at me 🙂

[zinc matrix]

I'll give you an a for a****** jk lol

[oblique cloak]

hahah wel i mean if they dont fix things, and people want to finish the job, and we ask them 900 times to fix it i mean what else can you do?

[quasi mantle]

Man, I'd rather have VM, with Linux host

[oblique cloak]

why? i can stream playing in 240 from pc to pc on 1080 p and no suffer from using 2 different inputs, mic on both pcs and sound with a mixer

[quasi mantle]

The Linux host would serve as local remote git repo, before routing it to server

[quasi mantle]

Sure, but at least VM had better disaster recovery

[oblique cloak]

i guess lol i always used a 2 pc combo. i cant switch xD

[quasi mantle]

I guess easier maintenance factor too, as I'd only concerned about one set of hardware

Though I do consider a build server.

[oblique cloak]

i have a sevrer in my basement, but there really is no use for it

idk just money i had and spent when i had it

[slow imp]

I just have an old PC which I turned into a VMware server

4590/970 on it

Just have a few different linux distros on it

[quasi mantle]

I use Arch(vile) btw

Though I don't know if FreeBSD can be used for compile server

[foggy path]

the paper2d channel is so dead that people post self promo and stuff in there and don't get warned lol

[oblique cloak]

https://www.twitch.tv/valorant <--- watching these professionals play.... it reminds me of my lobbies....

the apex legends finals where today too, that was fun to watch

[cursive crypt]

No man's land

[dry basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlE86Xxsc_0&t=23s

Some IGN facts..

[cursive crypt]

Good I haven't believed IGN.

[pearl elk]

I never give any game a perfect score, just to leave room for my game to be released... I mean for something better to come along 😛

[fathom wadi]

I'd give Path of Exile a perfect score. But there are few games that come close.

[cursive crypt]

Was that the Diablo-like? I think it was more recently made.

[fathom wadi]

it got it's release in 2012 I believe. I played it in closed beta tho from 2011 or so

2013 was the version 1.0 release but it was public beta for a while too

It was inspired by Diablo 2, but everything they have done with the game has made Diablo 2 look like a barebones game. It's fairly complex in terms of how many builds you can make, the crafting is insanely good and the currency all means something. They add content every 3 months and I still play it when new leagues start. Can't fault it.

[open fog]

Thanks to another guy on this server who actually fixed my lag issue with his advice which was crippling development for weeks

[fathom wadi]

he's not here so I'm taking the credit. you're welcome

[cursive crypt]

Send beer.

But, yeah, I heard that Path of Exile is good. Know a dude who played it a lot.

[oblique cloak]

I loved the game until end game, it got bad lol

have not played in about 3 years tho, things might of changed

[fathom wadi]

end game is where the game starts

[oblique cloak]

i loved grinding those dungeons tho 😮 was so much fun

well the end game with the maps and stuff

[fathom wadi]

they have redone the atlas a lot, there are more choices for end game content now too. Its not just maps, you do play maps but in the maps there are multiple new ways to run it.

[oblique cloak]

oh wow i might give it a change agian then

i spent like 300 dollars on it lol

[fathom wadi]

there is a new atlas passive tree too. It's like the skill tree but purely for maps. So you can juice them how you want to play. If you want to do Expeditions, you can skill it for that, delirium, etc. Play it your way

[oblique cloak]

did they ever add the option to fill?

always was just friends only

[fathom wadi]

fill?

[oblique cloak]

yeah all lobbys where invite only

[fathom wadi]

@zinc matrix I play builds that cost less than one exalt to build and can do end game. If you go meta builds for the league, thats when it costs because everyone wants the same gear

yeah if you don't know how to play, you won't last in red maps

that being said, if you take one of the staple builds, like a bleed bow gladiator or a totem build, its faceroll in red maps too

One thing that bugs me about POE is the Maven Fight. I get that it's an end boss, but I simply don't want to run that fight. I used to think Sirus was bad with it's colourblind nightmare and offscreen one shots, but Maven is just too long a fight with really annoying mechanics with the memory game and all

I saw a billion dps build this last league. Legit too, not some path of building exploit for numbers

they made the last two bosses too easy this time around. Which I kind of liked because it felt like I wanted to farm them, but they weren't much harder than Conquerors which suprised me

yeah when he goes ape with the fireballs it made you feel like you had to do something in the fight instead of just run away from his one shot and then come back and dps

the other dude with the sticky swamp sucked balls tho

I wish they would do another infinite dungeon that isn't Delve. I used to love it but eventually it feels like there is better content to play. I also don't like how it forces you into specific builds because of the exponential depth damage.

plus you never actually delve. You just keep running

often yeah. Especially when they bring in a new difficult boss fight, but if you just want to half arse a generalist mapper build, you can pretty much use anything. Only thing I really tend to focus a meta build on is targetting Delirium. Everything else I can use a semi-decent build and still do the content. Maybe because I've played the builds dozens of times over the years. But like I said, I don't like to go meta because if you don't make 20exalt in the first week, you are always chasing the prices on gear

I remember trying to buy a bleed bow, everytime I got another exalt I would go check prices and they rose 2 ex or more. Eventually crafted one I had that much currency

yeah I've toyed with SSF, I do prefer it. You don't end up running out of juice in the league 2 weeks in. Past few leagues I've completed everything I need within that time

Probably a good thing though because I need to work :p

I used to do a partial SSF where the only thing I would buy is a bow for a Ranger, because when you play ranger, you never find the bows you need and it pissed me off. So I would buy a Lioneye's Glare for a chaos and run with it

trade is like a full time job. It was a lot worse before the shop stash tabs tho.

anyway. time to get back to work. The coffee is complete and I need to use the effects :p

[zinc matrix]

poor soul

beginner friendly does not describe much of the engine 😁

But hey, it works

[quasi mantle]

Scaring away the beginners means securing the job I guess

I think Unity is more beginner friendly and proven on mobile, but holy smokes does the job spaces do get (too) plentiful

[verbal junco]

damn Embracer bought Square Enix Montreal, Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montreal. that's an industry shift

[quasi mantle]

So that means Eidos as a whole will no longer fully owned by Square Enix?

[verbal junco]

possibly? I know that Square likes to keep a small amount of shares in companies they sell off, but I don't have the details

[verbal junco]

I don't agree with unity being more beginner friendly. Unity has huge issues with UX and UI. until pro tools came about there was no level editor for unity. all the programming is in c#, not visual etc.

[quasi mantle]

Can't argue with that, it's pretty much the same issues since Unity 5.

[verbal junco]

learn to love the spaghet

[quasi mantle]

Which is why nobody in my local game dev circle talked about level design 😔

All of the talk were mostly monetisation and business model, if not sometimes storywriting

[verbal junco]

might as well try to write a book and monetize that instead

[quasi mantle]

Most of the time I looked at non mobile local made games that aren't borderline visual novel, I can't help but thinking, "man, the levels in this game is kinda shit"

Especially early on, I remember how awful Dreadout's level design was. Tried to put together visual riddle like Resident Evil, ended up lost for hours with inconsistently triggering audio cues.

I don't know if not improving much on that regard for about 7 years is an achievement, but I'm sure that makes local devs now ended up making borderline visual novels, where level design is next to no importance. (If it's not a mobile title)

[verbal junco]

I think #blueprint got its first meme today. or I don't know, maybe not its first, but definitely another one

delay 0.0 is always the optimal solution for anything timer based

[timber viper]

Dont forget to use interfaces for everything ✅

[verbal junco]

I love that they also mentioned working in a studio and using those same solutions for studio work 😅

[quasi mantle]

Ugh, they're discussing gacha implementations in the game design channel... Fricking hell, I kinda hate local gamedev circle.

[subtle hatch]

https://fxtwitter.com/Wario64/status/1521010532655923200

[timber viper]

I've been in one of those "studios" once

[subtle hatch]

$300m for those IPs and the studios is an absolute steal

Damm

[quasi mantle]

Also just realised Embracer is THQ Nordic rebranded

[verbal junco]

I mean BP limits the kind of true buggery you can do with cpp, so I imagine the memes aren't going to be as out there

I'd hate to see how a smol 32gb data table would perform in BP

[verbal junco]

yes and no. on the value sheet, yeah. but they're probably not making money 😔

[torpid star]

🇵 is just a rip-off 🅱️

[verbal junco]

controversial

[torpid star]

You're the Fortnite to my PUBG

[verbal junco]

TT🅱️ doesn't have the same ring to it

meta🅱️erse

[foggy path]

Open 🅱️ 🅱️D

[deep glen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/therokuchannel-roku-the-channel-50-states-of-fright-FQBFlcKd5pMPh1LWgT

[cursive crypt]

🇼 hat is going on here?

[quasi mantle]

That failed spectacularly

[deep glen]

well, they celebrate it

[cursive crypt]

I want baklava too 🍴

[quasi mantle]

🅱️ 🇷 🇺 🇭 🟦 🇼 🇭 🇾 🟦 🇳 🇴 🇹 🟦 🇬 🇴 🟦 🇦 🇱 🇱 🟦 🇴 🇺 🇹 ❓

[deep glen]

<_<

[quasi mantle]

You too, brother.

[cursive crypt]

took u time

Typewritter effect please.

[quasi mantle]

Not consistent in dark mode

[verbal junco]

I for one wish everyone Eid Mubarak, even to people who aren't Muslim

[quasi mantle]

Okay, pls no hate again

[verbal junco]

@timber viperI'm still watching that guy stream that vampire game. he's actually hella entertaining

[timber viper]

The guy or the game?

[verbal junco]

well... both?

the same video

game looks interesting and the way the dude talks as if he's a middle aged teenager is hilarious

[timber viper]

Didn't watch that much to pay attention

[verbal junco]

it's ok I forgive you

[timber viper]

@verbal junco what did you like most about the game - what do you find entertaining

[verbal junco]

the way he just slips in "poggers" in a sentence where he seems completely serious is top humor

[verbal junco]

I really liked that xp is tied to the blue crystal stuff, it creates interesting incentive to get blue crystals even as you're walking around. the weapons are sort of interesting and have cool evolutions

level design could use some work

[timber viper]

https://youtu.be/id2FfoIF5KE?t=280

[verbal junco]

the chest music is surprisingly upbeat and fitting more of a game show aesthetics, but it somehow works

the stream is from sometime in january so I hope not

then again I've never heard of this game before or after that date

[timber viper]

I think damage impulse could be more utilized in the game

[verbal junco]

also listen to the shark repellant anecdote

[cursive crypt]

Talking music, was just on this - providence has spoke.

[verbal junco]

I'd say ensure that there's an end goal

I don't feel like infinite games are as great as finite games

one of the reasons I think frostpunk works so well is because it has objectives that you have to fulfill, regardless if the game can be played endlessly after the fact

[timber viper]

That's why I gave up from survival wave based design idea ~6 months ago

[quasi mantle]

I swear discord mobile app is weird in limited connection smh

Sending messages again without consent
Can't it just be "okay, the message is already sent, stop posting it"

[verbal junco]

that would be too easy

[timber viper]

I tried so hard to find a way to entertain player without a main objective and just trying to survive but couldnt

[verbal junco]

read up on game theory

[timber viper]

Is it related with game design or literally "game theory"?

Killing Floor 2 is fun to play though 😦

[verbal junco]

well it's called game theory, and it's been used in other aspects as well. it isn't about game design though

[cursive crypt]

Dark souls trend still alive tho, maybe Zelda

[quasi mantle]

Game theory? Did you mean Five Nights at Freddy's fanfiction?

[cursive crypt]

It is math

[verbal junco]

you're not wrong

but like

[timber viper]

I gave up trying to learn game theory when I was 15 too

[verbal junco]

you gotta understand what an infinite game vs a finite game is

and when who is playing what

the whole "everyone else is playing checkers but I am playing chess" thing

[timber viper]

In the end, does it prove survival design is bad?

[verbal junco]

survival design is an infinite game

the problem with infinite games is that you're subjected to the same thing over and over again (because that's the only way an infinite game can continue), so eventually it becomes boring because you have it figured out

[timber viper]

Rogue-like solves this I guess

[cursive crypt]

MMO would have a word.

[verbal junco]

so the only interesting thing becomes "at what point have you mastered the initial buildup until you can continue infinitely"

[verbal junco]

nobody plays MMOs for the gameplay

fite me

[timber viper]

Its not infinite though

[quasi mantle]

It won't be out of place if Discord paywall that kind of failsafe behind Nitro

[verbal junco]

ahem #lounge message

[timber viper]

but but but #lounge message

[cursive crypt]

Well... I'm not sure I want to fight.

[verbal junco]

I like this, I think we should just throw quotes at each other instead of repeating ourselves