#lounge
1 messages Β· Page 1006 of 1
Id devolver and EPIC
*croteam
but obviously the most epic is in the name π
classic doom was overrated, change my mind
oh sorry yeah croteam not devolver thats the publisher
devolver owns them (now) and publishes, but croteam is the actual studio that makes serious sam.
Not going to argue there, but the modding scene is strong.
Somehow Classic Doom become the gold standard of moddable games, even when id didn't release official modding tool until source code release in '98
god damn ue2004s music is godtier π
i remember sometimes was just sitting around listening to the music π
I guess it uses its own engine might help
I kept thinking about planning for mod/UGC support for my game, which uses UE4, but at the same time I don't want to go through the hassle modifying Unreal Editor to be the mod kit
Though at the same time I've seen amazing model swaps for Final Fantasy VII Remake on PC, and it seems they're using vanilla UE4.18.3
I guess I have to get in touch with the underground modding scene and ask on their workflow and what they expect for moddable UE4 games even without the editor
why even bother before you have a fanbase
i think you don't necessary have to modify the editor
i read it somewhere
there is a ugc sample plugin
You don't have to modify the editor whatsoever.
for real tho, unreal engine best game ever π
spending more time in it than any game
should need a counter ngl xD
time played xD
ok i say then "best entartainment" if it sounds better for you π the doubters up there π
there's no point in glorifying an engine
not glorifying it
just saying i enjoy fooling about in it and doing it more than games recently
ah, well if it works it works i guess, though it's weird
damn valorant is the most toxic game i have ever played... i swear... i do not know why every single player thinks they are gods in this game....
Deadly Premonition (Whistle Theme)
Download Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?ton2jtwz54n
Subscribe for upcoming catchy Songs :D
YAY
#37 - Top Favorites (this month(March 2010)) - Games
Welcome to every major competitive game.
Unreal Engine best "game"?
CS:GO, Valorant, League, Dota, etc
the point of some games is to make you feel special
games... toxic? naaah
valorant takes it to the next level tho... its a weird kid of toxic kids.
What about Fortnite?
You're just getting an unlucky streak if you're seeing more.
#career-toxic
||At least I'm lucky in Asian servers||
if you can't beat em, join em!
naw just uninstalled. not dealing with the kids in this game. you miss a shot, you hear it for 10 rounds.
slap
it's why I play fighting games instead. if people are toxic, they just look weak
*team-based competitive games bring out the worst of random internet strangers, you've just gotta have thick skin or only play with friends.
Or avoid them.
cs is worse, straight hard r's left and right xD
CSGO is kinda bad in Asian servers, though to be fair I was a F2P player, which Valve thought making CSGO free is a huge mistake
Valve learned their lesson
Rocket league might take the crown as the most toxic game I played (when you get to higher ranks) but Apex isn't far behind either
Tbf a bit of toxicity is a part of the "fun"... as long as some people don't take it too far
tho im so sad unreal got discontinued π¦
Nice Shot!
Halo and R6 is less toxic than other
Nice Shot!
I don't speak russian, I can only imagine it to be "something something cyka blyat"
people play games because they see there favorite streamer hit a rank higher than there's. then they strive to reach a higher rank, trying to make them selvs feel better.
RUSH B
GO GO GO
but like, spammed 4 times
i gave up on apex, to many agents... season 1 -2 was absolutely perfect π¦
Seeing a lot of Russians in CSGO is a sign of you are not in a good rank
After a point they dont show up or if they show up they are nice
I dunno, for me people claiming "mid" prepick in dota takes the cake
lol the salt in MOBA queues around lane picks
R6 is the best β€οΈ
suddenly, 3 people mid
Remember
I haven't played R6S at all tbh
another game that ruined there game with 900+ agents π¦ first few seasons where absolutely amazing.
You see bad playing people a lot but rarely toxic people
a friend of mine said it would be worth the grind to get to level 20. so I endured until then. then I realized that was the game. no thanks
I played it at the start when it came out, skipped a few seasons and came back like a year later
Don't play ranked if you wanna stay sane and actually have fun lol
Trying to get to Master each split but it's basically impossible with random teammates, stuck in D4/3
well, I guess the game being paid helped the less toxic people
is this why pure multi player gamers are so quick to jump to insults? it's a part of that community's behaviour?
I brought the game for 1β¬
again fighting games win out. if people are toxic, they rage quit on you = you win
blues got better aim than most!!! are you a aim assister? or kb/m? thats amazing tho, d3/4 is a great rank!
Well, competitive team based games tend to have that more
Unlike fighting games, which is PvP.
It's like a manly fight
Is it normal whenever I see π CE comes to my mind now lol
i learned to use this from CE
gamers ruined games

it's such a nice passionate kinda sad emote
π
kb/m π
idk i kind of miss MW2 trash talk days those lobbys where epic.
I would use this emoji instead if I had it π
my guy! dev, and a god! good for you π
Now it's the time to sell your soul to Discord Nitro scams 
scam? but eren got it...
I'm too much of a punk fr that
That's the joke (and the infuriating part with Discord Nitro system as a whole)
easy, just click the link i'll send now coughs blood
jk jk i get the implication
also dont forget to close your AV ^^
I just got invited to play the cycle frontier, is it any good?
if it's competitive multi no
I played it when it first came out
Close the AV so that my patent trojan Nitro injector shipped with it works
Wasnt bad, kinda boring over the time
meh
come play fighting games instead 
I was good at MK9 & MK11
<rant>
Today's malwares are boring, no groundbreaking payload that can make you poo your pants, just steal money in the background
</rant>
rank?
I do take competitive games pretty seriously π
When I used to play FN me and a friend almost qualified for world cup, we were very close to qualifying
This is from today's match lol
I cant link my xbox account to my apex account π¦ dang.... i had like 40,000 credits for stuff...
I was playing at playstation cafes so I dont have a rank
Since they use single account for everyone
playing with fire?!
Condoms exist
that's not what you use against fire
instructions unclear
Well, aside from being lab rat for my malware experimentation that is
wow 12 kills is very impressive with kb/m in that higher quality lobby. Are you low sens? high sens? I hate cross play so much when it comes down to compet these days, but if you just queue with kb/m you get ALL THE CHEATERS!
if the situation has enough heat, use it
Condoms are fireproof, right?
yeah firefighters use giant condoms to enter burning buildings
I'm on 800dpi and 1.8 in game so I would say it's on the higher end
Hard surface mouse pad tho so it feels really quick
There are a lot of cheaters
woah man I don't speak gamer lingo
exactly, but it's still not enough so it destroys itself and waters everything
if that makes sensw
it makes sensw, but it doesn't make sense
is that the next version up from sensw
then sensy and sensz
You guys using FQuat??
No they are using FThis and FThat
I would have gone for a senshomogenouscoordinate but fair
sensible enough
I thought it was illegal
senswble*
use "easier to apologise than ask for permission"
hey now don't use my words against me
THAT's illegal
I already gave you BSD-3-Clause, you ungrateful bastard.
/jk
i really hope this typo gets forgotten with time xD
What? You still want MIT licence?
Fine, but only this time, b-b-baka!
with time, it will become past tensw
ah yes doesnt know the clause
that's so long ! π΅
Not as long as GPL
that's ||what she said||
π
Richard Stallman went nuts when writing GPL licence
nonexistenceofculture.meme
I'm not sure what RMS has to do with trusting the license
Though I'm not sure if AGPL 3 is compatible with BSD-3
I think we need a #legalese channel
I've been looking into implementing ||DeepCreamPy|| into my C++ tool, which is under AGPL 3
good lord
Good grief
for the majority of the world's population it would be morning no?
For the Far East and Australia, yeah
about heif
how are you still awake
or are you just here for the daily 4:20 moment
Might wait a few more weeks for April 20th
do finns stay awake by copious amounts of coffee + SΓ€kkijΓ€rven polkka on repeat?
(the whisky was finished last night)
I've heard they sustain themselves on lakkopiip
that's what I tell myself every night
Or that odd chemical candy that I keep forgetting the name
Know Jesus, know eternal life: http://www.kolumbus.fi/luodes/Gospel.html
Tunne Jeesus, tunne ikuinen elΓ€mΓ€: http://sites.google.com/site/kristuksensotilas/tosiasioiden-kohtaamista
This video is a parody about Finnish socialist government seeking to ban licorice pipes because they would promote smoking, thus licorice pipe the hardest drug video,...
finnish language sounds magical
but it's your heritage!
to enjoy the finest lakupiipu
did you become a smoker?
Speaking of teaching kids how to smoke
Reminds me of one of those toys that looked like smoking pipe, and can actually omit smoke. I don't know the chemicals, and it seems like it vanished from the market (for good)
Though I've already seen middle schoolers smoke regularly, so
π
I quit smoking because I got dizzy for days when smoking unfiltered cigarettes lol
Indonesian loves their tobacco
Yeah, lots of older people here are heavy smokers.
I'd say it matters on the general country laws as well
I grew up in a country that didn't allow smoking in general
No health regulations there
Locally you can get cigarettes as easy as buying candies.
I was shocked when I moved to germany about how many people smoked
nicotine pouches can save you, but it's the same
you get a buzz and feel weird
without them you feel even more weirder
crave them like a mf
Personally I'd go with vaping, because it's less dizzy inducing
But at the same time vaping was intended for smokers' stop gap...
or - hear me out here, I know it's crazy - not having any kind of inhalatory drug
What's vaping like in Indonesia @quasi mantle
Nothing special, just less accessible than buying cigarettes
it's less about the war on drugs outside than it is the need for drugs on the inside π
Ironically vaping was (and still is) more costly than smoking cigarettes
In the UK smoking is a very expensive habit unless your source your tobacco through nefarious means
The tax on cigarettes is so high
My country had banned vaping for a bit
I guess it's because smoking cigarettes doesn't involve electronic parts, all you need is a pack of cigarettes and a match.
Because my government wants to collect more money from smokers so it's not about health
gasoline is pricey too though, so that lighter is gonna be a buck extra
Nah, lighters are pretty cheap here
One of my parents at one point used to work for Phillip Morris
$1 can get you around a half of cheap lighters (not Zippo ones)
saw this gem today
Sorry, I meant half a dozen
they're not wrong
also cigarettes in germany are more like $6 for a pack of 20 or something
UK government came up with a grand idea to discourage smoking.... make all the packets grey, with little colour
And they barely deter smokers.
Cigarettes in england can easily be Β£13.50 for a pack
too cheap
I think it's safe to say the nasty pics are just dismissed as decorative piece
Barely any effort to artificially raise the price
that sounds more like an australian thing to me
they have really high taxes on some things
alcohol, too iirc
well to be fair some states have the same tax in the US
One exception might be rationalising caffeine addiction 
I can easily imagine california having high tax on tobacco
energy drinks are also high taxed in aus
I think some people classified caffeine as drug substance
I had a friend being legit addicted to caffeine. it's not pretty
I drank a lot of espresso when I'm still working for event organiser company, considering constant crunch work I had. I guess that gave me caffeine addiction and sleep deprivations.
how did you know that you were addicted?
I don't really know, just guessing.
then it's probably not addiction
though I do drink coffee more since then
usually you get headaches when going cold turkey π
if you can stop without actually feeling physical symptoms
The day I didn't drink any coffee, I would get sleepy more and tend to lose focus
that's normal
but i'm also addicted to caffeine
if you were addicted you'd get headaches and cravings
cravings not that much (in my experience)
Usually headaches only come when I can't sleep at night, but tbf that doesn't saying much
I drink coffee every day, but I've always been trying to moderate it. I do 2 cups at most
and it hurts me on another level
because I love coffee
but I've switched to decaff for after 2 cups
and it works
even if decaff kind of sucks
As in those small cups, right?
normal size. but probably equivalent of 2 espressos
tea rubs me the wrong way
Then I get into the full size mug territory, but twice per day
i dont know, just because it's tea doesn't mean that its better
the best I can do is a matcha latte from starbucks, but I have those once in a blue moon
how much do you drink?
probably 1:10 or 1:8 is right
no milk or sugar though
I like it the color of void
just black
it's the best time
people go to shops still?
I haven't been outside my apartment for months 
Milk? Go raw or go home (literally)
like physically, you carry it?!
Often times coffee milk isn't going to cut it for me
Even though I enjoy coffee milk more, just that the effect isn't as strong as black coffee.
your cream management sucks apparently
description: no landscapes allowed
are you sure rider isn't a kid reference
Just another day at #career-chat I guess
well that wasn't helpful at all!
Ratio+didnβt ask+not funny
Looks like blue bird alumni
I had someone block me the other day for saying they need QA to solve a testing issue
that was in #ue4-general
I guess that might be toxic
Hi, everyone! I was wondering - would it be OK to ask here about trouble I'm having running a game which was built with UE? I'm a technical user myself (programmer by trade), so I've been digging through the docs and playing with settings for a while now, but I feel a bit stuck and need a nudge in the right direction by someone who knows UE well.
#ue4-general and state your issues right away
Aye, aye, captain! π
I've ran into a case of "it works perfectly but I have no bloody idea how"
"I HAVE TO SPEND MONEY FOR THE SOLUTION? NO THANKS"
I mean, they specifically asked about documentation for automated testing and you responded with a snarky comment unrelated to the solution.
Jokes are fun and all but that doesn't excuse being a dick to someone who had a simple question.
I didn't see the automated part of that
but equally if they were unhappy they could have restated that
You mean this?
#ue4-general message
This is #lounge sir
The conversation being discussed isn't from lounge.
I dunno, I felt like that convo just ends in limbo, no dramas
I tried to decline it
They kept taking my cookies
tfw you bake cookies and cook bacon 
Is this suitable for sacrifice to websites?
They keep asking me cookies and taking them even if I reject it
Looks like a nitro link
Huh, I'd expect something like this to be open source.
I guess they don't want the big guys to exactly remedy the extension
@unreal cedar also saw they asked for ways to have QA be more efficient, so it doesn't seem out of line what I said?
They mentioned automated testing specifically in that comment too.
yes, as a follow up
You can nitpick how they phrased things but it's pretty clear what they were asking. Blocking seems like a bit of an overreaction but making fun of them/talking about the convo behind their back because you ignored their actual question doesn't seem right to me.
I dunno, I don't feel I was in the wrong there, especially reading the comment back. automated testing or no.
π
I have a question
when your learning unreal you should learn both blueprints and the normal c++ coding right?
or should you only learn one
over the other
depends on your goal
wdym?
if you're primarily an artist or designer, C++ might not matter that much.
If you're learning from the perspective of a programmer/engineer, then you probably want to know both.
ahh ok thanks
I think I'm going to learn both, hopefully knowing a bit of c# will help learning c++
I learned a bit of c# and their pretty different
in a lot of ways
but
that's fine I can start from scratch
They are, but already understanding the basics of programming does help quite a bit.
they are also simmilar in a lot of ways
And syntax-wise C++/C# are at least very similar.
Even if language features are completely different.
like the if statements, switch statements, do while loop etc are all the same
but theres no console.readkey or console.writeline
and you put everything in an integer called main
Ehhh those are very superficial differences. And C# also has a main method that can optionally return an int.
The biggest difference is that C++ has you managing memory manually.
I dont know a ton about c# or evern c++ for that matter but im learning
yeah I want to avoid memory leaks
I recommend learning C++ separately from unreal. The language is very complicated and that's before having to learn it + all the stuff Unreal piles on top.
that's the plan so far
I do learn C++ basics prior to using Unreal Engine (or even Unity), so after 2 years of just BP, I'm not really lost with UE C++ basics
UE4 C#
haha
please can we get intercal support in unreal
It would be nice if there's a way to sideload C# programs without having it compiled into DLL separately π³
(as in compiling C# programs together with compiling Unreal C++ projects, not compiling it into DLL before putting it into Unreal)
so far so good
pancake stack
front end beer
shakespeare scripting when
I support this
Your cache can be sped up only to a 1000, by the lord Launcher's orders.
If 't be true health equals z'ro then playeth the death animation
I like it
Nice idea
isn't it like that already?
just that it's a component that you attach
which can even be closed source if im not wrong (unless it's sold on epic marketplace!?)
so if your 3rd party inventory component takes up all gpu resources you most likely got one with a cryptominer π
taps head
Does that affect all the Chrome-based browsers or only Chrome in particular?
Chrome based afaik. The issue is in the JS machine.
isn't even microsoft edge based on chromium these days?
I keep pressing Z to go full fps mode just like in Valve Hammer has, I keep pressing and pressing and I realized I'm in Unreal
I still use Firefox π’
Just wondering which channel would be best for questions about performance in my game? π
I found chrome to eat my ram more tbh π€
Maybe in #released so you can add a link to a survey? I have no idea
Er is there any channel that I could post a video of my issue to via a link?
Oh you are still developing? I thought you were looking for benchmarks and stuffs
If you can define what catagory its in, you can post links everywhere i think
Yup I've been working on my game, and although it gets around 60 FPS average on full settings it gets these tiny lag spikes every few seconds
Oh like here?
This is just like the coffee machine area π
Oh lol, I'll try the UE channel then, thanks for the help! π
Yeah I think i. #ue4-general is the most general channel
Minus hookers and blackjacks
Pff perfect
Well, you redirect it right
Quinn?
Ah gotya
Well that can be aranged
I think there is a sexy pole dance anim on Mixamo
Nah, I'll do some study and make it myself
π€ sounds like you need some assistance, is there grouo discount on stripclubs?
i need halp too, halp
also, lol Quinn
I hate when I get stuck on one single issue within something (for any type of project/activity) which causes everything to be put on hold until I resolve it, lol... always seems to happen to me :/
I usually just move on to another issue until I tackle it, and go back to the harder issue
that makes sense, although many times its after I had already done that and then I cycle back to get stuck again regardless
which im sorta at that point right now with the model, I think
i just realised, manny and quinn make mannequin
π€―
either that or sometimes (regarding unrelated stuff in the past) it actually is something thats required to progress. especially happens for blueprint/scripting related stuff, cause of how things are linked together lol
the manne and quinn the most mannequinn
Manne sounds like a Nordic name IMO
watch atleast 1 random unrelated tut daily, then by the time you get back you might see stuff from a different perspective, though random ue tuts are generally bad so idk how else you will take in unrelated info which can later come in handy
Also this weekend I do more C++ than usual
That's a record
!8ball you have quin inside you?
@soft night, :8ball: My sources say no.
!8ball are you inside quin?
@deep copper, :8ball: Better not tell you now.
Also surprisingly my C++ codes worked first time
Makoto well it is nordic name for some folks for sure
scary experience
where did the Quinn name come from anyway? cause I have never even heard that until I had joined this Discord lol
oh wait I just now got it...
its because Mannequin lol...
π
how metaphorical, deep and romantic or something
i have actually heard of people with that name
Harley Quinn
Quinn sounds like the name of someone who blogs on Tumblr all day π
Why am I laughing so hard on this lmao
She probably would tho
lulz
the guys behind her have mics and those ear plugs, they probably hear more voices rn
no pain no gain
do you want a different kind <3 ?
hairy humpty dumpty
I think those are feathers mate
took you a while π
!8ball is it possible to be as intelligent as you?
@zinc matrix, :8ball: It is decidedly so.
You are a hag in a wormhole. Armed only with a pie and your wits, you must save yourself.
feathery Humpty Dumpty
you have food and a place to stay, + you are intelligent, easy game
A game where the world is dominated by chimeras, and the last hope for humanity is a ufologist with a newspaper.
π
that story could work in a movie, too
each normie has its own nft
sure!
that's more like, scary and creepy than funny lol
if this pops up on my screen for 1 sec and goes away, i would be scared
keep this as a loading screen
how long you take to make a character like this?
2 years
yah, lol... originally for MMD that is
but it does way more stuff
4 score and 7 years
but atm now been converting to UE4 format
depends on the usage, and how important it is to the individual
Long enough that you missed a deadline 
i do not have a deadline
more than 2 weeks is too long
i took 2 months on this one
all fruits have rigs but from a topdown view it seems so skin
then i started filling it more (left corner at the bottom)
but that feels taking way much more time
what is the fruit rigged with, explosive, razor blades?
they look π
i think at the end of year my game will turn into a Lutriq aeroponic garden visualization
instead of a proper game
π²οΈ
as long as it's fun
oh super...
i think i will need to cut my character legs and grabbers
so i do not have to animate 4 more bones
sounds good
i should also mention that my model took 2 years to create, but without any other prior experience/knowledge before I had started
so thats a factor too
and you should also add it has many emotions and poses etc
they look very polished tho
yeah, a ton
also I should show a more proper pic heh
there ya go, a non-meme example :p
being a katana fighter with such a big boobs must be a pain
the belt helps probably
the FOV makes it look bigger here, funny enough
hm
maybe use it as equilibrium or stability volumes?
she has a boob size slider anyway, so theres that. for reducing or increasing
never thought as boobs weight as something like that actually
lmao
the sword must be equally heavy for this right
or slower movements?
to match attack inertia with boobs one
as long it is sharp enough
just imagine doing a 2 cm depth cut of a length of a katana on someone?
i would start crying
Take a look to the breasts just before you die
It's the last time you will
||ICYMI: lyrics of Metallica's For Whom The Bell Tolls||
i am not fan of boobs
i would probably look at the sky or something
That's just the original lyrics
well if they are big enough, there won't be a sky
actually i would transmute into a wooden log
then touch her back (by teletransporting into her back) and charm her
log boobs are the best
then we would do game dev. the rest of the day
It can be changed easily, the fov
ah and we would cut the katana into a smaller blade
fruits and vegetables are not that big on Earth
if you cut katana you have more katana to cut from
why a wooden log tho
that what i seem when i played Naruto on Xbox
i hated that game
everytime me and other 2 friends smoked weed we played that
Burrito > Naruto
i lost 98% of all the matches
unique experience i would say
i just played because one of the guys liked the bit
fighting games are so boring
for the noobies, i mean
they probably did because they won
yup, if you don't win, you lose incentive
the problem is when you do not know how to play and loose it everytime
i thknk only after some weeks playing that thing i started learning the mechanics
and very rarely i would enter in a state of trance that lead me to win
well you were drugged, no way you can figure it out
but that happened like minus than 5 times
not bad still
and i had fun pricking a friend using Noob on Mortal Kombat
atleast you enjoyed something i guess?
i begged them to play something like Castle Crashers or any other co-op
they didn't?
but our sessions did not last too long
were those your earlier friends you left or later ones with whom you went on mountains?
i did not had any friend on a mountain with me
or they are too afraid of the routes
or they are too lazy
well it's not for everyone so makes sense i suppose
i guess so
once we decided to go to a near park by bicycle
one of the guys almost fainted on a climb
we had to call its parents
because none taxi would accept a bicycle
that's kinda troublesome
high on the mountain or
mind
hi hungry i am me
he did not, but stopped cycling and lied on the floor
saying that he could not go any further
and that we should call a cab
feels tired
looked like a crying baby
hmm Naturo does look pretty tastey
did you hug them?
we are not the type of friends who hug each other
ofc, it is. I think, I have even one of the instant things... Which is nice for when you are tired already.
You know, these can be eaten even dry, afaik.
but anyway, i would not hug a sweat guy, lying on the asphalt
Truly lazy.
it seemed like a good opportunity ;^^
Or maybe a nap first... πͺ
it would felt so weird
you were high, so probably not
idk you, but getting high on weed when you used to smoke is not a big deal
i see, i have never used that before, but i imagine it's like getting drunk
I would but only if he had nice boobs
still weird
i think it is more introspective
there's some added softness though, so good resting place
Would you give a guy a foot massage?
give them massage with a foot or massage their foot?
so you've given this some thought π
i have done both under circumstances
i didn't get a Chance to check π’
are you blind?
not fully but kinda, was
ah it was dark
there's that too
but you can generally confirm during the day, however, clothes
and staring would get weird
where you was?
i can use my eye to navigate maps on cities even on a strong trip of lsd
that's nice, i get lost while sane so idk lol
i have heard people that drive/travel a lot generally have great mapping skills
it is not rocket science
i have seen drivers that can return back even if they have been in a maze like place once
it's crazy
if you have a straight line pointing towards the destination and a compass built-in
maybe not the most efficient route
still..
i suppose that's one way to not get lost
this looks ok but pho > ramen
a face
bad breakfast face
to cook mushrooms maybe
does your country have ramen
the ones you had to fix in the morning
I only cook mushrooms when its daylight savings
they grow better because of the extra hours of night you see
π no answering weird questions
their mushrooms were going bad
it's not weird
they said it may not survive the night
okay a better question: does your country have a noodle soup
too much of a fun guy
Ok, no soup. Smoked mackerel it will be.
i am not sure how much it narrows down anything, but doesn't every place now a days have it?
not as part of the national cuisine
france doesn't have a noodle soup in their cuisine
(but italy does)
i am not sure what that means but i can eat noodles if i want
They have onion soup tho π§ π
yes but there is no noodle in that soup
Put a baguette.
we are strictly talking about noodle soups
out of curiosity: what's everyone's prospect here on buying a house?
or an apartment
or some degree of housing
Not gonna happen π° π°
Prices now are even a bit higher than the "great crisis" ~2008
well yeah it dropped then it started rising
i live in a giant bucket.
do you own your giant bucket
fair enough. but also, finland
like a vehicle?
If you have a "good salary", say a sw dev. You need on average 100 months to buy an average apartment of 80 sq/m.
100 salaries I mean.
i would live happily on a vehicle
no. I rent from the lady in the shoe
100 salaries would get me a decent apartment
I live in the scrub under a tarp
If you save 1/3 of your salary. That like... 25 years? Without the bank interest.
weren't you moving next month
~17 years, w/o the interest. It is a tragedy. And I'm from 2nd world country.
That issue is getting global.
I think it would take me 1-2 years to get 10-15% equal to a down payment
assuming I started from 0
I really wish you good luck. Many people don't realise how good is to have a generational wealth (i.e. their own home).
at this rate it's not looking up lol
Yeah, I'm also from zero. Even from red. Middle-aged, it is basically my last train not to die on the street.
I have more money than before but money is now increasingly worthless
Yeah... π©
wait
having a house plus what else?
a vehicle, a lot of clothes etc.
you can get down to some few square meters of space, 2 cookpots and 6 clothes
You can move in the deep province, even cheaper. We are talking, I guess, for something more general, common? Like the current rent.
I have a 1m square of lawn I can use for my toilet
Gotta use the ceiling too.
If you are nomad? Or just young dude.
that if you are smart enough you can get away with some tweak of plants roots absorbing the stuff
for the bathroom i mean
just would take some days of effort into digging a hole
yeah! be young forever
and let the world be your oyster
either of the options are so much work
I twerk over my plants to encourage growth
and it works, they grow
hurt it
poke with a katana some stems and leaves
no wait
that is just too much for a small house
why do you want plants? they waste water
and space, + they die
and if you are sentient enough, nutrients
you can weld metal plates and make a house too
you can eat them in case of emergency though
that would probably cut the need of having a lightning protection
Yeah, just make one in Unreal BP
Instant π
then go live in a cheap country
like maybe... thailand
(thailand also has delicious food coincidentally)
katana plants are my favourite, bit bitey
sounds good, hopefully works
has a sharp taste and rich in iron
This should be done in your 20s, most early 30s. If you want to have a family, it will be hard.
or you can go to brazil and hug me
buy house, rent it out, and just stay nomadic
no, family is bad
Brazil looks too criminal.
no wonder your place is safe
Well, if you rely on your armor points...
well tbh I'm not sure if the whole family thing fits my lifestyle. work has forced me to move around a lot. now it's getting a bit better with the whole remote work thing, but still
Depends...? I mean, how old you are? Know, sometimes opinions change years later π
no one can beat me in a medieval style tourney
if your opinion doesn't changes after 30-38 it probably won't change
me + a bicycle + stem of a broom
i do not know if i even need a helmet
although i have a cycling one
that is why i am inviting CE
I have some pretty good example of exactly a change in that period, lol.
Sometimes, even a split from long term relationship, triggers.
almost old enough to be a parent for people in here π°
incidentally I'm still too immature to be a parent
i will stay quiet
plus men can have children way after (?) than 38 years old
Well, you know yourself. I was sharing from my experience and view of the social circle around.
so zomg has 3 accounts?
lol, if you think finding a partner is so easy. Especially, if you are ~40 years old, lol.
do not you think that?
if you have your life resolved, i think plenty of bits pop out of the blue
speak for yourself, I am a ||β||
nearly all people in their 30s have a change in ideals, perhaps because they are ready to settle down or something idk
Not at all. I know 2-3 good friends around 40... Have their own place, trying their luck. Maybe kinda poor. Naah, not happening.
I want someone to share my tarp and piece of lawn
oh.. maybe they are not hanging around too much
i lost time the amount of old ladies at their 40s on EDM places were single
I think the whole thing of settling down in your 30s is a bit archaic and or traditional/conservative. especially considering the economical issues people face in their youth these days
I have from both ends, the one is quite social, the other not so much.
EDM?
electronic dance music
Economical is good hint.
there's lots of single ladies yeah, but idk if they are the right one at that age, i mean, both would have health issues in that time
i think a pub can do it too
thats how it works, if you wanna get rich become an EDM DJ
Aah... well, maybe it is specific to your place and culture. These are rare breed around.
what do you mean?
i found one which was very wealth, 3 children older than me, looking for fun
the people who stay 20 years at one studio are outliers
and tbh, quickly become dinosaurs
i mean, people at 40s need family , not fun or something
idk
i think you are wrong
i am not old enough to speak about 40s
Depends.
I've seen some people staying single even in their 50s
As I said, specific to your own place. Even me, who is into EDM barely know such free ladies, even less who are not into relationship and definitely none who are willing to start a family.
if their ideals didn't change in the 30s, yes
i have 2 on my family over 40s, single that from time to time are always posting photos of socials etc.
given that most people stay on average in a studio for the length of a project, everyone uproots every 3-5 years
oh yeah, they are not frequent as adolescents or mild adults on places like that... still, you can find, it is not like it is a impossible quest that will take you 15 years
have you used Tinder?
Personally I'm just let things fold out.
If I somehow get married in my 30s, even with my ideals that some would deem ridiculous, then I'll take it.
If not, and I stayed single in my 50s, then so be it.
imagine having kids which use tinder
I'm against forced marriage.
Let's just conclude that you will have a better luck with something else. Our culture and place are very different as it seems.
or worse, kids on tiktok π
that is the mindset to find someone at some point; biology leads us to this type of thing
marriages hardly work out anyway now a days
let alone forced
my problem is that I've grown accustomed to being single now, after my last relationship
Who hasn't? lmao. And not only.
I think it's the same with me, given how badly my last relationship ended up.
and you did not managed to find someone?
I don't use Tinder at all lmao
why would I want to date a game dev eeww π
In my case, my ex turned out to be a serial manipulator, and I'm just lucky that I didn't get further. But holy shit the PTSD still last to this day
That's what she said
<_<
thats why I work for MI5
<_>
at least she wasn't a serial killer
or he
(no judgment here)
the problem with relationships is, you need to invest yourself into it to make it work, and so does the other, with how hectic life is in older adult stage, it's rather difficult i think, and not to mention unrealistic expectations etc + assumptions and other human pains
She may not be a serial killer, but I hope she's not serial killer for men's heart
not that much for interested people
but the point of wasting a ton of effort is the point no one wants
Last time she tries to manipulate me again long after the break up, I dodge the bullet by saying I'm attached to my waifu
even if there was time, I'd rather spend that time doing something I enjoy, rather than being forced to do something another person enjoys. I think that's what I realized in my last relationship too. and we even shared a lot of common interests
yes, if they are ready to invest themselves, it works
That actually saved me, because later I got reports that she manipulates her more recent boyfriend and now giving nude pics to strangers.
or maybe not, but you just know if you try
and who wants to waster effort after so much time alone?
or, "i am over 40s, it is too late"
yes, making the other feel special is vital, and it's the most difficult, + if they become used to it you are definitely not getting any time anymore
i met once a ladie doing volunteer, very hot italian retired philosophy teacher
you can find anything these days
Still, I dodged a bullet because of anime waifu still felt surreal to me
it's just not worth the time to put in tbh
there is too much people!!!
@deep copper see, that is the mindset of locked ppl
How A Fictional Idol Saved My Life From Certain Disaster
there's also this, rushing things because low time, and giving up because too hard to search and no time for this , basically demotivation is there too for some people i guess?
It is just sad. Sigh... So lonely and poor people.
idk, i am in the process of turning asexual and loving my blender models rather than girls
real people can be dangerous yeah, i have heard of year long relationships also not working out because of such issues that later develope
we can't all be blessed with a life partner that accepts every choice and cheap rent with a roof that tries to kill you for half a year
anyway, making a 2 year old friendship with frequent contact feels better than digging into the thing straight out of the box
but if she is like you, do not waste it, i think
(I assume winter and double winter account for 6 months of the year here, I might be wrong)
if you go nomad, you will no longer be able to see your models that much π’
i will just turn into nomad if i can power a computer to model >.>
i have also heard of divorce cases where you then give away half your income or something
Well, I still consider myself kinda lucky. Had I go further with that woman, I would've got myself into constant manipulation and things that will haunt me for years to come.
oh! what is the point giving society justification of partnership
oh yeah, marriage is an antiquated institution
just marry without paper
no no no, always have a contract
that sounds good but assumptions like "are they cheating" etc kill those
ok, in case some katana girl is reading
Especially now that cancel culture and sexual assault allegations run wild on the internet, I might get shot with one of those if I continue further with my ex and she found out about such tricks.
my first requirement is. no violence and low-poly
sounds good, go on a world tour!
i think there is more chances of me giving up than thriving
now you don't have to worry about that with waifus, win win
I think I might divorce windows
until you get AI waifus that will keep a log of everything you do 
she might already have been setting you up for it
AI is very good at reading legal documents
just block her of all social media
including Discord
even better! they can buy me cool presents with my own money!, ofc i will also buy them any random item they want
lol
game dev might go down this route
you could be your own waifu, just use a filter
next to nft games
I think you'll find that they'll use that information against you
and then divorce you for a hotter, younger AI husbando

atleat they won't put fake allegations against me, right? right?
the allegations won't have to be fake at that point 
oh yeah, there are gender switching filters
Well, when she and I were together, she claims to have mental breakdown (after unfortunate events actually hit her) and she texted me to get on the bed in premarital fashion. I actually refuse, but I was just play along with the texts, and doesn't actually do it (hotels were far away from where I live at that time).
if hotels were close you would've?
and mental breakdown is a simple but worthy trick
Maybe still not. I had discomfort when that happen
not sure if they really had it but whatever
Well, given that she loses her relatives at the time, it was more understandable. But still, I didn't comfortable with it.
I intended to play along just to comfort her, and let it all out from her.
Provided to YouTube by Epic/Legacy
Portrait of Tracy Β· Jaco Pastorius
Jaco Pastorius
β 1976 Epic Records, a division of Sony Music Entertainment
Released on: 2007-09-14
Producer: Bobby Colomby
Engineer: David Palmer
Assistant Engineer: Ted Hammond
Engineer: Don Puluse
Assistant Engineer: Ted Brosnan
Auto-generated by YouTube.
not your fault, but sometimes not getting what they want from a person, can force people to try manipulative tricks
I guess that really substitute as sexual assault (but initiated by woman), because I just felt discomfort all over when she sends those texts.
if you don't like it, let them know i think it can serve as evidence in court
At least now there's no strings attached, but the memory remains.
I don't think Twitter knows anything about court. Though she was reluctant to use Twitter at that time.
it's all in the past atleast, good learning experience perhaps π«
only works if you didn't use something where messages can be edited or deleted etc
i think
or you have unchanged screenshots idk how that works
just do not marry for most here
just do not
i mean, can not you just resolve things in a logical way?
not if someone frames you to be a bad person, it's usually trust issues etc
if the girls manipulates you in any form that you do not like, just ditch her
wtf
there is 3 billion of girls
and some of them are very hot under your taste
or boy
whatever
well, i don't think most people are as strong as you to score any
lol
I think the saving grace here is that she and I never actually texted to meet up on the designated hotel the next days
sounds good i guess
my longest is 0
ai waifu is the way to go
can we marry tonight?
why not now?
lol
this gonna be a better love story than twilight
are you mostly up at night?
i can still suck blood if you want <3
*be not
just be not?
yea i wish
i finally turned my sleep cycle to wake at 6am
6am your timezone?
existence in cringe y'all
Rendered with Unreal Engine
i am like this, discord allows you to block ppl
lets embrace the cringe then !
at least i can backup desperate people most of the time with terrific advice
ditch you manipulative girls
do not consume much violence
do not marry on paper
Now that I think about it, even if she's accusing me of sexual assault later on in revenge, the evidence would still be in my favour.
go out on EDM clubs and hit that hot ladie, she may be single
and i can't stress that enough, don't use complex collision as simple
why?
Hit on*