lounge

[red pewter]

just imagine

[median wraith]

if you go further 10 years ago you had this

https://youtu.be/3fOpHRrOBJQ?t=83

what basically had this tool and realtime GI

so must be UE5

[verbal junco]

this is just yesterday's conversation at this point

[median wraith]

YOU ARE CORRECT

[red pewter]

I wasn't there man

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/water-sea-waves-gif-10693670

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[median wraith]

I want to test that new water things

from Niagara

but someone told me are super costly

[red pewter]

yeah, here she is

[verbal junco]

yep that's water

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-sonic-wink-hedgehog-gif-12711169

[median wraith]

@red pewter that engine was my change back in the days to make a shooter

too bad the AI and everything was hardcoded

[red pewter]

10 year old me had no chance of doing anything, I just thought it was cool to shoot a machine gun in the computer

[verbal junco]

this is the exact image I had in my head when I posted that

[median wraith]

I mean 14 years ago the only engines were those

and id tech ones

[red pewter]

Torque!!!

[median wraith]

meh torque

I had issues with it tbh

[red pewter]

don't you dare disrespect the OG trashy indie game engine

[verbal junco]

can we talk about ogre3d and other failed engines too?

[proud jay]

that's how you break your computer

[verbal junco]

is godot technically a failed engine at this point?

[deep copper]

godot is tiny in size btw

[verbal junco]

... is unity?

[median wraith]

Is made in spanish so have drama releasing the 4

[red pewter]

meh, people who use it seem to be enjoying the workflow for small 2d games

[timber viper]

Godot seems nice but source code almost unreadable

[median wraith]

well Godot have more features than those old ones

[verbal junco]

just like unreal

[median wraith]

the editor isn't made for artists sadly

[timber viper]

Godot is was seeming more documented compared to UE though 😄

[red pewter]

I kinda feel bad for new 3d engines these days, like

how do you compete with UE being essentially free

[deep copper]

maybe less crash and low size

[red pewter]

absolutely

[timber viper]

I guess an RTS engine could do a some tricks around the market

[red pewter]

Spring RTS gang...

[timber viper]

Since only option is Spring engine 😄

[median wraith]

yet still the projects released with Unity on steam are more complex than the indie UE4 ones

[red pewter]

lol Spring is so ancient at this point

[verbal junco]

you don't or find a niche. studios holding onto their legacy engines though because of propriety

[median wraith]

jesus that was the one with the zombies demo ?

[timber viper]

I didnt saw anything related with zombies for Spring yet

[median wraith]

I do remember some 3D engine with a zombies scene like a texas scene with zombies in 3D

[red pewter]

most big AAA studios are doing fancier stuff than UE internally anyways

at least from a gameplay code perspective I can say for sure

[median wraith]

Back in the days I was using those open source even the doom/id tech engine

dropped it because the license

[red pewter]

after zenimax got them?

[verbal junco]

fancier how? most big engines are heavily specialized rather than being generalist like UE

[median wraith]

and today with all the tools and resources I'm out of ideas

[verbal junco]

also full of tech debt and outdated workflows

[red pewter]

well, that's true. but I'm thinking of multithreaded gameplay code being default etc

[median wraith]

@red pewter technically these was GPL always

except Cube 2

[deep copper]

was there a cube 1

[median wraith]

I came from cod engine so id tech was kinda familiar

[red pewter]

Cube 2 is a cube with 7 sides

more content

[median wraith]

yes sir

[proud jay]

Cube 3 is cube cubed, Cube³

[verbal junco]

fair, from a code perspective perhaps. but more often than not every other discipline suffers from obtuse workflows

[red pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/tesseract-dimension-gif-11731956

[median wraith]

check cube and AssaultCube @deep copper

[deep copper]

they can definitely do something with that once it's out

[verbal junco]

obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGDCE6Nrz0

[red pewter]

yeah I can hardly imagine the insanely awful tooling most big studios have

[median wraith]

at this point this is the same conversation from yesterday

[proud jay]

this makes me think of this https://youtu.be/wO61D9x6lNY

[deep copper]

"by funnymovieinternet"

it's a meme now?

[red pewter]

seems so

[timber viper]

I see some Id Engine fanboy here

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/tesseract-dimension-gif-11731962

[verbal junco]

well if you're going to copypasta I might as well follow

[red pewter]

not really unique to them, Destiny 2, TLOU2 etc lean heavily into a threading solution that actually does stuff

[deep copper]

"history repeats itself"

[red pewter]

lots of presentations on it

[timber viper]

I'd appreciate some multithreading in UE too by default

[median wraith]

I'm technical artist, so I can do whatever I want that's the green card

[red pewter]

well we are using an engine with architecture from 1998 or something with incredible tooling and features

you gotta sacrifice something I guess

[timber viper]

Lets sacrifice Tim

[deep copper]

who is tim

rather, which tim

[timber viper]

dragonHell

[red pewter]

I spent so long making this I'm posting it again

[median wraith]

wait for the engine migration to other language once the computers aren't compatible with quantum

[deep copper]

ah idk

[deep copper]

oh right, your fav game

[median wraith]

@zinc matrix impressive speed skills to find the emoji words

[deep copper]

the incredible machine in gif search brings up hulk

[median wraith]

Who said yesterday the physics wasn't that important in games?

[deep copper]

there's also the incredibles

phyCEcs

[cursive crypt]

I know that one too. I think I covered almost all levels of it 🤔

If you can tell me how the hell to enable World Partition. I think they change it each other commit.

[median wraith]

So we are in WW3 already ?

Elizabeth II will complete the trilogy

[cursive crypt]

😩

[median wraith]

WW3 is trend on Twitter it seems as well

good times

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-ryan-reynolds-shocked-shocking-omg-gif-13199849

[median wraith]

what does that ?

[cursive crypt]

I will try and report. My PC might explode.

[median wraith]

I don't feel like catching issues as did back in the days

is bad for my health

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, interesting. Landscape got converted to WP. It had to be default for new ones, but... /shrug

[knotty skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/370032252643573760/946271810897457212/yay.mp4

[cursive crypt]

naaaah, the export is still as tiles

[deep copper]

that message goes well with the ww3 one lol

[cursive crypt]

lool, the ctrl+space is captured by the controls - it does not work if you have clicked a checkbox e.g.

It creates quests, npcs and puts down some free trees.

[deep copper]

can't be as bad as waiting for 4 hours right

[median wraith]

So if you have a big empty world

isn't still better to have a huge landscape scaled 1000x1000 with 10m density ?

I did for the airplanes game

[deep copper]

you are the technical artist, you are free to do whatever, right?

[cursive crypt]

Better in what sense? Better than what?

[median wraith]

oh man, strike in the chest

[median wraith]

than world partition cost

[cursive crypt]

Ah, you mean with WP and without? I don't think there are downsides you should care about.

Tho... if you don't go near the ground, just use a mesh?

[deep copper]

just have the ground in hdri or something?

or is that not a thing now?

[median wraith]

well I did on the game but isn't like you need detail on the landscape but needed a lot of mountains so ended with that

less density and more scale deal with less loads times

[median wraith]

that's only for the background man

[deep copper]

ah okay, i thought you would not be getting too close to it

[median wraith]

https://twitter.com/danhett/status/1496566147541577739

dan hett (@danhett)

absolutely lost it at this texture someone found in Cyberpunk https://t.co/P95svTn5iZ

Likes

8288

Retweets

976

Twitter · Feb 23, 2022, 7:22 PM

[cursive crypt]

What about movie?

[timber viper]

lol

[verbal junco]

I remember a similar article for a game that I worked on years back. it was fantastically hilarious

[placid thistle]

Did you say "idTech" ?! 🔥 🥲

[median wraith]

oh no is motorsep

where you was all this time

we will retire soon man, we are old

[placid thistle]

You woke me up from the deep slumber chanting "idTech" 😂

BTW, we fixed vehicles in Storm Engine 2

Now it's "production ready" 😅

[quasi mantle]

I still dislike the skin shading in this game...

[median wraith]

well you want to reduce cost somewhere

also the main error there are the shadows and no the shader of the skin

[verbal junco]

tbh I hope someone cosplays this

is that a gnome

[proud jay]

I think by rent but one time pay, you mean buy

of course buying real estate is a foreign concept for young people these days 😭

[verbal junco]

cryptocurrency is the real estate of the future

[proud jay]

maybe the whole of cyberpunk exists in a 1 month time span or something

[placid thistle]

I think if someone could replace Flash UI with SVG, engine would be more usable @median wraith

[torpid star]

step 1: gain currency
step 2: buy property

[mossy nexus]

it's still a repeating amount of cash you have to pay for the properties, it's just you no longer know when the next one will be. Wouldn't surprise me if that's what they did, just a stupidly long time in between rent payments 😄

[torpid star]

step 3: leverage property for credit
step 4: buy more property

step 5: default

[proud jay]

`murica fuck yeah

[torpid star]

step 6: go bankrupt
step 7: ????
step 8: profit

[proud jay]

step1: marry rich
step2: profit

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/i-declare-bakruptcy-bankrupt-yelling-announce-declare-gif-15663557

[proud jay]

https://tenor.com/view/i-do-declare-michael-scott-the-office-there-has-been-a-murder-declare-gif-12099988

I liked that declaration more

[mossy nexus]

Step 0: Sublime into the higher dimensions and forget about this pitiful plane of existance.

[proud jay]

step -1: suicide before birth

is it a sin to kill yourself if you haven't been born yet 🤔

I need a priest to give me some input on this

[median wraith]

fooking flash man

[proud jay]

FooKing or BarKing?

[median wraith]

wrong cage

need to be bigger

like Nicolas

[proud jay]

https://tenor.com/view/community-abed-nicholas-cage-nic-cage-nicolas-cage-gif-15971200

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-pudi-cool-community-abed-gif-8698973

[mossy nexus]

killing is a sin , as if you killed you 'antequam nascerentur', then you killed you and you a dumbass.

[torpid star]

Abed gifs <3

this is one the best community episodes, Dan Harmon best

[verbal junco]

I tried to think of my favorite but in truth I've forgotten most of them. I guess the office and to some extent parks and rec were more memorable for me 😭

[torpid star]

for sure, but that's actually good! You can re-watch Community now, as if it were your first time.

[verbal junco]

I'm not sure I'd like the humor as much

I dunno, I remember the pillow fort episode

and that's about it?

[torpid star]

you and I are enemies now

[proud jay]

they think this is a joke

[verbal junco]

either it is, or they are

[fleet tangle]

Community was awesome.

They got their 6 seasons and a movie in the works.

[proud jay]

they're making a movie?

[fleet tangle]

Apparently.

[cursive crypt]

nier will also get movie, drama queens

anime in fact

https://nierautomata-anime.com/

[verbal junco]

where is the parks and rec movie 😢

[cursive crypt]

At least echi.

I remember they got that achievement, looking under the skirt 🤔

[fleet tangle]

Ron crushed it with his moustache.

[cursive crypt]

At least for ps4 game, it was not bad. However, all that drama made me roll eyes all the time.

It looks blue.

Should be fine.

[proud jay]

needs more gnome

https://tenor.com/view/gnomed-gnome-youve-been-gnomed-gif-16782193

[median wraith]

can't look in detail but looks okays ?

also why are you doing thsty

[mossy nexus]

Gnome²

[median wraith]

isn't nanite a thing ?

[cursive crypt]

Nanignome?

It is just ponkkis has old gpu, needs to sell some gnomes for better one.

[tulip orbit]

No need for AA, just apply a blur filter in photoshop and set the strength to 100

[median wraith]

https://youtu.be/c8ph4alOItw?t=44

Put the theme on the trailer once you finish

this was the technical artist of their age

[tulip orbit]

https://c.tenor.com/Z3enIiLUnzgAAAAM/hangy-hungry.gif

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-crying-gif-19112518

[tulip orbit]

I just worked night shift, my options seem to be more cereal, cereal, or cook a big meal with meat that is frozen solid

[deep copper]

eat me

jk

[cursive crypt]

uugh... I'm so bored of cereal.

[fleet tangle]

Meat is always the best option.

[cursive crypt]

You joke, but I know such ppl.

[tulip orbit]

oh, thanks for reminding me. I have lots of junk food too, but it'll all just upset my stomach

I dont wanna cook. just eat.

[deep copper]

am i the only one who prefers convenient food like cereal? i guess that's mainly because I don't want to cook

[cursive crypt]

Try steamed/boiled veggies with potatoes. With a bit of spices and olive - it really calms down the stomach. I tried few times.

[tulip orbit]

I had cereal twice yesterday, and will have before tonights shift

[deep copper]

one or two won't hurt

on that note, how was the night shift ?

did the snow get in the way?

[tulip orbit]

hm. I do have frozen veggies that are easy enough to microwave

not enough snow to cause issue. Night was fine. Easy nights cause we didnt get any trucks 😐

[cursive crypt]

As solo past few years, I got really good in choosing frozen foods. Easy and there are some healthy choices. Especially during the winter.

[tulip orbit]

i've got a bunch of frozen meats, but they all require some defrosting ahead of time, and therefore a bit of planning...

[cursive crypt]

Nah... too hard.

[deep copper]

that seems, decent

[fleet tangle]

Microwaved cereals can be good.

[cursive crypt]

Amen

[deep copper]

i am an adult no idea what will happen to me down the line

[tulip orbit]

I have to watch my carbs, cause most carbs turn to sugar, and have to watch my sugars 😦

[cursive crypt]

Oh... hmm...

[tulip orbit]

most ppl would call me an adult, but... bah

[fleet tangle]

There's bacon toothpaste.

[tulip orbit]

1. preheat oven to 400F, 2. insert pizza. 3. wait 24min. 4. remove pizza and eat.

[fleet tangle]

The trouble is, people don't read instructions.

[deep copper]

how do you even think of doing that

[fleet tangle]

And you clearly missed the step about removing the packaging, you're going to have melted plastic on your pizza.

[tulip orbit]

eh, it is... but not so much that it becomes an issue

[fleet tangle]

Have you ever tried heating up muesli or rusk type cereals? They're so much better.

I'm not talking cornflakes.

[cursive crypt]

Hummus is another healthy, easy and suitable low-carb thingie you can eat.

[fleet tangle]

There's a great (I think healthy) recipe about using muesli type cereals combined with yoghurt and kept in the fridge overnight.

[cursive crypt]

I think oat flakes are overrated.

I can get only a small amout or I'm going to blow up the sofa later the same night.

[deep copper]

i think i tried something like those, but it makes me sad that it goes poof after so much effort -_-, it doesn't stays, it gets eaten, perhaps once i am quick at it I won't feel so bad because it took less time and it actually tastes good or something

[cursive crypt]

Some muesli are slow-sugar. Say with a bit of apples and other dry fruits.

[fleet tangle]

I use powdered sweeteners on cereal these days and avoid sugary ones. Probably just as bad, but in other ways.

[deep copper]

wha

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, definitely not so good. Truth is, less sugar, the better. sigh

[deep copper]

i guess it's worth a shot

[fleet tangle]

They go sort of solid.

Microwaved baked potatoes are pretty bad.

[deep copper]

hmm, alright, i gotta do it someday anyway. .

[fleet tangle]

No way you can cook a potato in the microwave in 5 minutes.

Definitely not in a university dorm kitchen.

[deep copper]

wait microwave and oven are different?

i guess i have to understand what i got first

[fleet tangle]

Microwave -> cooks food with microwaves. Ovens -> cook food with heat.

[tulip orbit]

they're easy. wrap in tinfoil, microwave for 4min. 😄

[deep copper]

that looks oddly simple

[fleet tangle]

@tulip orbit it's not about easy, it's about quality of the end product!

[deep copper]

the article says 5 mins, but it varies depending on potato size

[tulip orbit]

bah, just gotta provide sustenance to the meatbag so I can do other things

[fleet tangle]

If you're microwaving a potato in 4 minutes, it's a tiny arse potato.

[deep copper]

can't i cut it first and then microwave? that should do it in 30 sec then

[mossy nexus]

Did you know you can easily make plasma using 2 grapes? 🙂

[tulip orbit]

the tinfoil is important, cause without the sparks it doesnt cook properly 😉

[deep copper]

thanks but... that doesn't sounds edible

[deep copper]

so you are eating a tinfoil potato tody?

today*

[mossy nexus]

warm grapes are a by product of the cool light display.. 😄

[tulip orbit]

no, had some pre-cooked potatoes from previous meal. and some veggies, good enough for today

[mossy nexus]

2 grapes side by side in the microwave, 1 inch in diameter I think is the right size.

[cursive crypt]

Was that intentional trial?

I got hungry too btw

[tulip orbit]

I'm still hungry 😦

[verbal junco]

takes notes

[tulip orbit]

my notes! I need those!

[verbal junco]

woah just saw that russia did a full scale invasion

madness

[cursive crypt]

TIL: Ctrl+L 🧠

[clear cape]

kinda

[fleet tangle]

For anyone in Ukraine (and Russia for that matter) hope you're all okay.

[timber viper]

I'm really worried for you man, I also have a friend around there. I wish you guys will be fine

[clear cape]

dunno, where I am seems fine, occasionally hear some explosions in distance

not like 2014 when rebels were shelling city and military guys running around with full equip

[cursive crypt]

It is a DLC

[timber viper]

Western people know how to reveal theirselves tbh 😄

[deep copper]

sorry i am not sure if you are serious or joking... 😅

[deep copper]

sounds decent

[timber viper]

Good morning m8

[deep copper]

how do you know what baked apple tastes like?

[mossy nexus]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=grape+in+microwave&sp=CAI%253D

[cursive crypt]

Friends <3

[verbal junco]

how close is the relationship between turkey and russia? you think if there's an invasion of russia that turkey might participate?

[timber viper]

It's ultimately unlikely Turkey will fight against Russia

[verbal junco]

I meant on the side of russia

[timber viper]

It's even more unlikely

[verbal junco]

I think the turkish control of the bosphorous is going to be critical if a war breaks out and possibly for the next decade regardless

russia has no non-arctic ports apart from now crimea

[timber viper]

Yeah, many retired generals and some elite people (related with army/government) is anxious about that issue, and they are talking about this issue on TV all the day

[verbal junco]

wait I just heard a turkish ship got hit by a missile in the black sea

is this true?

[timber viper]

True, but only ship is damaged

[verbal junco]

ah okay, no worries then

THE WAR IS OVER GUYS

[timber viper]

It's a civilian ship btw

Its their fault they were there (they were closer to fight zone than Ukranian navy somehow)

[verbal junco]

poe's law

[deep copper]

... oh

..... o h

no wonder it's a burning tank

[deep copper]

i have only ever seen tanks being destroyed so my image of them is quite fragile

[verbal junco]

so in essence: grapes are plasma bullets

[deep copper]

essenCE

[deep copper]

that actually does looks tasty

actually it just looks like a water ball

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-young-question-marks-what-excuse-me-huh-gif-4486363

[deep copper]

lukewarm water ball

[verbal junco]

looks like liquid fire and you're like "mmm tasty"

[deep copper]

you don't want to lick it?

[verbal junco]

I want to make a gun that can use it as ammunition

[deep copper]

preparing for war?

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/principal-skinner-yes-seymour-skinner-the-simpsons-enthusiastic-yes-gif-15806751

[timber viper]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-ian-mc-kellen-gandalf-prepare-for-battle-prepare-gif-4879285

[mossy nexus]

What kind of tank, though? Fish tank? Air tank? Water tank? Sewage tank? This is important ya know...

[deep copper]

i don't even have that knowledge...

[timber viper]

It's a modularized tank for sure

[verbal junco]

I didn't become a designer/engineer for nothing

[deep copper]

i want it to be a fish tank

[timber viper]

I'm proud of that tbh

If you dont make your problems your problems there wont be a problem

[mossy nexus]

I didn't become a designer / engineer. Period. I win? 😄

[deep copper]

as long as you can survive in forests etc

[verbal junco]

I bet all those people who bought elon musk flamethrowers are happy and preparing for war

[mossy nexus]

actually, I did become a designer and an engineer. Damn it.

[verbal junco]

only if you get through the war in one piece

[deep copper]

what

elon made those now?

[verbal junco]

are you going to pick up on the legacy of the white death?

[mossy nexus]

Which piece?

[deep copper]

gnomes can survive anywhere i think

[deep copper]

one piece, the rubber anime

[verbal junco]

well you're close to russia and russia wants war apparently...

[deep copper]

when you can't even use the stove you already have properly

yes, the one where they uh i forgot the plot

[unreal ether]

You have inspired me to make a grape launcher in my next game

Shamelssly stolen

[verbal junco]

it's gonna be interesting. russia waited for spring. I bet if they are expecting a counter invasion it'll be in winter

but it's a question if their winter tactics will work the same way they have done before

or if putin is just gonna use the doomsday machine

[unreal ether]

Just use hairdryers... melt the snow

[deep copper]

the soldier need social distancing

they can't stay warm in winter while distancing

[verbal junco]

the irony would be that the war is set on hold because people get sick from corona

[deep copper]

it's a bio war then

[mossy nexus]

President Vladimir Putin threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

[unreal ether]

Please dont tell me that means nukes

[deep copper]

it means bears

[verbal junco]

I mean putin has a deadman's switch equivalent for an entire country

[unreal ether]

But what if theyve faces bears

[unreal ether]

The crazy man has the big red boom button and i dont like it

[deep copper]

what does it do

[verbal junco]

"NO ONE INTERFERE WITH US OR CONSEQUENCES"

no one interferes
covid happens
invasion cancelled

[mossy nexus]

I don't particularly like there being a Big Red Button anywhere

[deep copper]

CE pfp like

[unreal ether]

I mean theyre good in some cases.

[verbal junco]

I'm sure you can let your imagination work that out

[deep copper]

nukes?

[unreal ether]

He has the MOAB
Mother of all Bears

[deep copper]

bear hugs?

[mossy nexus]

or biological or chemical or any other kind of indiscriminate weapons

[deep copper]

maybe covid is-

[verbal junco]

is now a good time to mention that russia has some of the most advanced icbm warheads? 😅

[timber viper]

Any modern country has those weapons in this decade tbh

[unreal ether]

Is it the time to mention they have a lot of them too

[deep copper]

is it time to ask what icbm means?

[unreal ether]

Intercontinetal ballistic missile

[deep copper]

nvm i will look it up, chrome is open

[verbal junco]

I believe a certain website can help you with taht

[unreal ether]

We had to write about their embedded systems for computer science GCSE

Was weird

[mossy nexus]

don't forget the hypersonic missiles

[unreal ether]

They launch blue hedgehogs?

[timber viper]

Only missile can not be interrupted after fired, yet

[verbal junco]

it wouldn't even matter, the warheads are all MIRV scattering

[quasi mantle]

Bing

[unreal ether]

They wanted a definition not build instructions

[mossy nexus]

Although if it turns out to be the Putin has equipped all his dudes with laser guns and jet packs... that would be interesting

[verbal junco]

it's something like every missile can hit 3 separate targets several hundred kilometers apart

[deep copper]

is that a code word for missle

[timber viper]

Looks like it's going to be a depressive era for both Europe and the world

[deep copper]

missile

[quasi mantle]

It's granny

[deep copper]

you look different today

[unreal ether]

Its the new disguise to annoy the guy from yesterday lol

[deep copper]

it shows up scarf in google,

[quasi mantle]

80s jazz fusion girl band mode on

[deep copper]

surprisingly, bing shows that

[quasi mantle]

Or one of Kate Bush's song

[unreal ether]

Why cant russia just bond over a universal love of pretzels

[verbal junco]

first a modern rendition of the black plague and now this?

[deep copper]

ah wait google shows that too now, weird

[quasi mantle]

all yours, babushka babushka babushkiyaya~

[deep copper]

people said 2022 might be better than 2020 and 2021

[unreal ether]

People be lyin

[quasi mantle]

False optimism

[quasi mantle]

Probably
Though he seem to unblock me now

Btw it's rendered with Unreal Engine 4

[deep copper]

again onto some blocking unblocking huh?

[deep copper]

what is?

[unreal ether]

Ah a change of heart

[cursive crypt]

https://i.redd.it/12mqplka8sj81.jpg

🤔

[unreal ether]

Clearly they were

Theres only one way they didnt notice that

[quasi mantle]

My profile picture

[unreal ether]

And it begins with m and rhymes with meth

[cursive crypt]

Melatonin

[deep copper]

that's quite cool 😮

[unreal ether]

Ngl thought you meant 2022

[deep copper]

Macbeth

[unreal ether]

You got it!

[deep copper]

muppet and meth also go well

[unreal ether]

Now theres a show i would watch

Muppets on Meth

Kermit is already a fever dream

[deep copper]

i haven't seen it so idk what's it about

the memes are all so dark about it

no idea what to expect

[unreal ether]

Rip to that message

[deep copper]

so they act out different stories each time?

[quasi mantle]

For the full image
I actually repurposed MetaHuman Lighting scenes and add some light probes
Loosely inspired by jazz band photos

[timber viper]

People get used to it one way or another

[deep copper]

that's awesome mako!

[unreal ether]

No they that was a movie, never watched the show

[deep copper]

ah

[verbal junco]

only because modern medicine wasn't a thing

how do you compare it?

[deep copper]

a tank cares about people's lives?

[quasi mantle]

He's probably one of them Boys und Panzer

[deep copper]

i wonder if tank is looking for a driver

[timber viper]

Some can also argue the era that virus spread people was uneducated and goverments was not efficient as todays to prevent spreading

Also post Ww1 era

[quasi mantle]

I thought for the longest time that Girls und Panzer was an anime about moe-fied sentient tanks, in the vein of Kantai Collection with the battleship girls

[deep copper]

i haven't seen it but have heard some things about it

[median wraith]

By the way the difference between the modern virus and the black plague is the black plague was way worst so it destroyed itself as kill the carriers, and the modern one isn't that bad and can spread everywhere without many notice

[deep copper]

you have seen it?

i will keep that in mind

[quasi mantle]

Same tbh
The moefied combat vehicles (or in Girls Frontline, guns) anime didn't stick to me

[deep copper]

read the summary just now, not that for sure 😅

[deep copper]

moefied anything is a bit too much

[quasi mantle]

It wasn't my jam, or I just can't comprehend it.

I'd rather see characters inspired by the mighty combat vehicles, while still having their own characteristics as a human being.

[deep copper]

that would be a lot fun yeah

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/earthbound-inspired-indie-rpg-about-depression-retardation-omori-genshin-impact-gif-23482555

[cursive crypt]

Plague or something was called a game where the best was just pump up spreading while lowering the danger. Then you just pump up the danger. Ultimate move.

[deep copper]

another reason i can't enjoy those, because they need me to know about things beforehand a bit too much as well at times

[verbal junco]

girls und panzer?

[quasi mantle]

Yes.

[deep copper]

have you seen it ce?

[verbal junco]

I think so yeah

it was ok?

some sort of tank tournament

where the underdog wins

kind of like an 80s light comedy movie

[deep copper]

that's unexpected

[lunar crane]

can i ask something here related to #graphics

?

[verbal junco]

why aren't you asking in #graphics ?

[lunar crane]

i asked

[verbal junco]

then wait

[quasi mantle]

#graphics question asked on #graphics

[quasi mantle]

#rules no. 2

[verbal junco]

woah dude, that's controversial

[deep copper]

no cross posting is usually appreciated more

[quasi mantle]

Reminds me of #graphics.com being 19,742 bytes long

[verbal junco]

I mean most #graphics questions are asked in #level-design at this point

[timber viper]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[foggy path]

Level design is just graphics your character moves through so seems legit to me

[timber viper]

And most #lounge stuff is in #cpp

[quasi mantle]

(Btw this is an obscure YouTuber reference)

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/thonk-thinking-sun-thonk-sun-thinking-sun-gif-14999983

[deep copper]

i mean, what even is level design? anything desinged that's remotely related to some level right?

[verbal junco]

systemic game design applied uniquely through gameplay in a level

[signal citrus]

The matrix

[verbal junco]

imagine you have a system like inventory and items that fit into an inventory. that is a system. it does not exist in world. level design would populate items to be used with the inventory in world

[unreal ether]

Level design is a load of crap, everyone knows you make it up, as you make the assets

[deep copper]

so abstract things not really in the world?

[verbal junco]

these items would be populated differently (or uniquely) per level. you may get wood from a tree, but trees are positioned differently in every level

[deep copper]

so level generation as well?

[verbal junco]

level design is only concerned with placement in the level/world

so imagine you can have flexible systems, like physics

you can make unique setups with physics that work in a level

but that has no bearing on the systemic elements of a physics system

e.g. a wood plank would have the same physics no matter which level it is used in

but because it has those properties, you can use it to setup a bridge to cross in a level between two rocks, for instance

[deep copper]

that's part of level design right? or that's just asset and making the bridge is only level design?

[verbal junco]

the asset making isn't part of level design

the puzzle making is

[cursive crypt]

#level-design tutoring

[verbal junco]

when people reference game design

they usually talk about systems

so when you create an interaction system (for instance, buttons that open doors), that is game design

but level design determines where that door and button is placed in relation to each other

[cursive crypt]

It is about how you level up your design.

Killing mobs, dual classing, etc.

[deep copper]

ah, that makes a lot more sense

[deep copper]

so it's just this, nothing more nothing less

[cursive crypt]

Sinusoidal levels are the best.

[verbal junco]

puzzle design, encounter design, architecture of spaces etc.

[deep copper]

it's more about, planning the positions?

[verbal junco]

yes

you have a door you have to open

find the key

[deep copper]

tbh i would have not asked anything in level design because it feels vague

[verbal junco]

I'm genuinely amazed about how few people actually know what level design is

[deep copper]

i would rather #ue4-general it or blame myself for coming up with a game i can't even design levels for

but it seems like a fair question for games

[verbal junco]

the best way of thinking about it is: systems versus levels

a door interaction is systemic

it can be used anywhere

but where you place it matters for how the gameplay is going to be

[cursive crypt]

One of the reasons I left that #level-design is all the same explanations over and over and over again.

[verbal junco]

you can leave #level-design but #level-design never really leaves you

[cursive crypt]

So apocryphal knowledge. Maybe we need in general some kind of game dev process explanations.

[verbal junco]

I've been working on these for many years

a lot of design knowledge is tacit

[deep copper]

yeah that helps a lot in understanding it, thanks 😁

[cursive crypt]

Like too few ppl talk about that and all the green game devs got wrong impressions.

Shoo... HR was not bad. Just... same issue, nobody knew how it works actually.

[verbal junco]

at least there's some entertainment when people try to do truly whacky things in #cpp

cough landscapes on tick

[deep copper]

so basically, if i spend enough time in #level-design i will see a repeating trend?

ignoring invalid questions ofc

[verbal junco]

this is true for any channel

[cursive crypt]

Few of them are kinda notable. One went to oblivion, thou shall not be named.

[deep copper]

#lounge as well in a way, as it's practically #cpp sometimes

[verbal junco]

lounge repeated itself today with yesterday's conversation

[cursive crypt]

They are hard to contain.

[deep copper]

choke me h- nvm

[cursive crypt]

I just remembered. What happened with that Verse/Skooma language? 🤔 Don't remember seeing it in UE5.

[timber viper]

It will appear one day

[deep copper]

like swag?

[cursive crypt]

Hmm... yeah, maybe it is low prio as of now.

There are still ton of things to fix for the spring release.

[deep copper]

there are always things to fix

[cursive crypt]

Aye, but at least get comparable level of stability to 4.x

ponkkis, you know of ctrl + L ?

[deep copper]

that's just sad.. but yeah it's not final release yet, hope hope

[cursive crypt]

pfuu... I guess, I'm the only one oblivious.

[verbal junco]

it took years for UE4 to be good enough

I think around 4.4 it started to turn

[deep copper]

i used 4.10 idk the previous stuff

[cursive crypt]

They are over 200k commits btw... that was kinda nice line.

[deep copper]

then i used something later and it crashed everytime, probably somewhere near 4.18-4.23

[verbal junco]

4.23 was cursed

[deep copper]

then i probably use that

used*

i then switched to 4.26 maybe and that was quite nice i think, or 4.25 idr

[cursive crypt]

4.27.2 is pretty cool. Feels safe.

[deep copper]

i really liked 4.10 tbh, it was also faster on my potato back then

4.12 was really slow on that no idea why, again I didn't even know what i was doing so

[fathom wadi]

4.19 was the best

[deep copper]

i think we should have a rating or ranking system so people know which versions are best to use

again, there will have to be different categories for that, sounds painful

[verbal junco]

same. 4.25 was much better than 4.23

transitioned a project from 23 to 25 and gained like 20 fps

[deep copper]

as a bp user i am happy ahaahahahhhha

[verbal junco]

it was a BP only project

it cost me nothing

[cursive crypt]

Y'all dinosaurs. Have a life.

[deep copper]

projECt

[verbal junco]

careful you don't hurt yourself with a stretch like that

[deep copper]

i am stretching you

i am gentle dw

you will never see C and E far away

[deep copper]

tis doesn't count

this*

[torpid star]

O Brother, Where Art Thou?

[deep copper]

does brother 1 count? i am here

sorry for bad ancient English

[torpid star]

Hi (sorry for bad english)

[deep copper]

Wassup homie (sorry for whatever this is)

[deep copper]

😔

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/dug-up-coneofshame-sad-ashamed-gif-15843603

[torpid star]

well don't (sorry for bad english)

[deep copper]

well i am not (bad for sorry english)

they feel adorable 😁 , good work gnome

[torpid star]

did you photogrammetry that in?

[zinc matrix]

i love unreal engine

it's so dope

but i hate it

[deep copper]

i thought ponk photogramed themselves 😓

[deep copper]

same

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[zinc matrix]

im kidding, i hate i cant learn faster 🤪

[deep copper]

i mean, nanite is a thing so why go lower anymore right

[verbal junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hat9nCTlMw nice relaxing mood after a stressful day

[deep copper]

i am not, I don't have rtx or other flashy stuff that can run such huge files nicely

[cursive crypt]

It definitely does not.

[torpid star]

your skinning this thing? that's nightmare fuel I'm sorry

[cursive crypt]

Skinning gnomes...

Yep.

[verbal junco]

it's either them or you

choose wisely

[torpid star]

if that thing moves you are guaranteeing nightmares

[deep copper]

i have seen that gnome static for so long, I don't think that moving would be, good

well if it's a horror game

[zinc matrix]

me neither i have 1050ti

4gigaflups

[deep copper]

i forgot what i had

i will check next time i open it

i don't think it was 4 digit tho

[verbal junco]

the horror is that random gnomes show up in your garden and every time you get rid of them another one shows up

[deep copper]

how do you get "rid of them"?

i am not touching that

if it appears

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-danntanner-danny-tanner-coffee-gif-13063298

[deep copper]

on its own

[deep copper]

is skinning them the only way?

[verbal junco]

.

[deep copper]

...why do you look happy about that

[verbal junco]

.

[deep copper]

this looks hilarious to me out of context

[wooden sapphire]

show me the footage

[deep copper]

of what?

[wooden sapphire]

7 years of sex

its recorded somewhere

[deep copper]

i don't think i have heard of anything like that

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-im-out-of-here-leaving-done-ok-gif-12376221

[deep copper]

hacker voice i am in

[zinc matrix]

no heck me pls i jus wan make cool art

[unreal cedar]

it was almost 4am for me when you said that lol
Cubegrid is awesome. It's good enough to replace most of my greyboxing workflow. It's still a destructive workflow so there are definitely situations where you can screw up a mesh, but it's about as good as it's going to get until epic gives us something truly non-destructive (lol, like that'll ever happen...).
Currently my biggest annoyance is that there's no good tools to recombine faces if you accidentally cut them apart with cubegrid (you can add and then remove a cube to cut a face which is neat... but there's no good way to undo that). Not a huge deal for prototype geometry but it can make texturing mildly annoying.

Also it isn't good for more complex shapes. You can make some simple ramps and curves and stuff by editing corners (which is a great feature) but it's not good enough to make something actually rounded, for example. And the other tools that can are horrible if you're trying to stick to a grid.

lol

And now for my rant: I don't know how half the mesh tools don't have something as simple as grid snapping. It's seemingly random whether an individual tool supports grid snapping. Want to cut a face? Too bad, you're freehanding it. Want to move some vertices around? Depending on which tool you're using you're freehanding it or snapping to the wrong grid 🙃

[median wraith]

I have seen that before on a game I paid and never were able to reach that level due a bug

no

[cursive crypt]

Achievement unlocked

[median wraith]

https://youtu.be/nWexJBeuEho?t=985

Don't buy that game, but use it as inspiration

[deep copper]

please no horror gnome, please no horror gnome

[cursive crypt]

ffs, I'm triggered by that frantic movement. I'm inspired not to do that.

I really didn't got the idea, is it like packman?

Hmm... so, you should keep them all in your sight.

Therefore the labyrinth with sprinkle of traps.

[median wraith]

so then nobody likes horror games here

what you like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfwJqQOjek&ab_channel=Nintendo

[deep copper]

how do you even make horror games without being scared? you can't even work on it at night

[median wraith]

well you make horror games and you repeat the same part 50 times

[carmine frigate]

i liked FEAR2 project origin

[cursive crypt]

Peppa the pig. Now, that is creativity.

[carmine frigate]

and deadspace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roQige_9Ylc

[deep copper]

yeah i am definitely not watching anything horror...

[median wraith]

COD Ghost and COD MW Remastered edition share the same bot AI and that's underrated

[carmine frigate]

also resident evil 4 is cool

[deep copper]

you are cool <3

[verbal junco]

I do recommend wrangling blender to your will eventually

sounds like cubegrid still has a little way to go

[deep copper]

there there, it will be alright eventually

[verbal junco]

oh I'm not sad about it, I use blender

but I do want cubegrid to get better

[unreal cedar]

using blender would defeat the entire purpose of having a greyboxing workflow in-editor

BSP died for this ;_;

and that rant wasn't about cubegrid

cubegrid is one of the few tools that has grid snapping implemented well lol

[verbal junco]

true... but the pipeline tool makes up for it. instant export to unreal with a single button press

ah fair enough

[unreal cedar]

the point being that many of the in-editor mesh tools are basically useless to me if I'm trying to do anything aligned to a grid

[verbal junco]

also I don't know if cubegrid has an extrude based workflow?

[unreal cedar]

it does

[verbal junco]

exciting

[unreal cedar]

it's basically just a fancy extrusion tool

[verbal junco]

very well

I'll look forward to trying it in 5.4

[unreal cedar]

lol

[deep copper]

as long as you are happy

[verbal junco]

welllllll

I'm content

[cursive crypt]

I think it is convenient to have basic geo support, LD stuff. Then anything a bit more complex, Blender ❤️

[unreal cedar]

As I said, cubegrid itself is great. Pretty much all my complaints are due to the rest of the mesh tools lacking features that cover what cubegrid itself isn't designed to do.

[verbal junco]

I do agree

[verbal junco]

yeah I see that. I do think there's a chance that epic end up not finishing the tools completely

[unreal cedar]

Also a lack of a non-destructive workflow. But that wouldn't be part of the mesh tools anyway.

[verbal junco]

which is always my worry with inhouse tools

[cursive crypt]

Wasn't there a live link 🤔

[median wraith]

like what

[deep copper]

if it helps do simpler tasks for which i am too lazy to open blender, it has done its job

[unreal cedar]

I mentioned some stuff earlier - lack of good tools to recombine faces after cutting them, lack of grid snapping on multiple mesh tools.

[verbal junco]

yeah that's a good point

although I do have blender and UE open side by side almostalways

[cursive crypt]

Anything more complex than the basics... and I would prefer just Blender 🤔

[deep copper]

blender is lightweight anyway

[median wraith]

I had an almost live link from Radiant to Blender to UE4 on one click still a pain in the ass

[cursive crypt]

Non-destructive, face rotation, you name it.

[unreal cedar]

There's an annoying "bug" where if you add a material without any faces assigned to it you'll end up with "empty mesh section" warnings that you can't actually fix with the in-editor tools 🙃

[median wraith]

the Blender live link is horrible

[cursive crypt]

Awww...

Too bad, then. Wasn't an Epic staff work?

Or that was send2ue

[deep copper]

i think i tried live link and datasmith for blender to ue as well, it was all just not so great

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-futurama-dont-see-problem-gif-11483776

[cosmic dove]

Oh god, don't bring back the nightmares!

[median wraith]

Isn't hot reload removed on UE5 ?

[unreal cedar]

My problem with blender (or any DCC tool) is that it's still an objectively worse workflow than something entirely in editor for basic level geo. What if the geo I'm working on needs to be based on actors already placed in the level? Do I need to export placeholders for them to blender just to figure out all the correct measurements?

[deep copper]

oh yeah, send to ue

it's not that good iirc

[cursive crypt]

Its benefit is, DCC. Its cons, it is DCC.

[median wraith]

Yeah technically is kinda bad, last versions have an alike tool to that one by the way

[unreal cedar]

If I'm building an entirely standalone model then blender/maya/etc is fine. But for level geo the source 2 way is simply better.

[verbal junco]

blender sucks in vanilla mode. but you need like 2 plugins to make it workable

that's why I did say wrangling

[median wraith]

adn Radiant still better than Source 1 and 2, change my mind

[unreal cedar]

w/e floats your boat lol

BSP-style workflows are better regardless

I also want source 2's hotspot materials lol

[signal citrus]

I honestly think all us people who prefer bsp are behind on the times now

[median wraith]

then get the marketplace plugin tbh @unreal cedar

[verbal junco]

I still want us as an industry to move away from UV unwrapping

[signal citrus]

Like I prefer brush work too

[unreal cedar]

Yeah I know about it but I need better in-editor modeling tools first lol

[verbal junco]

and more towards painting materials

[signal citrus]

But modular models really seem just a mater of fact these days

[median wraith]

we are old Pat

[verbal junco]

BSP was my first love too 😢

[unreal cedar]

My problem with maya (which I'm more familiar with than blender) is that while it is non-destructive the super generic node-based workflow for that stuff is so complex that it's just ass to use to adjust simple things, compared to just moving some bsp volumes around.

[cursive crypt]

I'm fine w/o them, maybe because I basically never used them so much 🤔

[verbal junco]

yeah all I need is shift dragging edges with axis locking

and blender does it worse than 3DSM, but at least it does it

[cursive crypt]

Estimate your time. Like, don't bother for small things, you said it too.

[signal citrus]

I really like vis portals and stuff, but yeah when it comes to subtractive bsp or additive with leaks, I tend to think avoiding bsp is just the right way to do things now

But I am not a fan of the frame late occlusion testing

[verbal junco]

although I say this, but stuff like insetting faces, connecting edges, merging vertices is still super handy

[signal citrus]

But am a fan of the performance

[unreal cedar]

source 2 shows that you don't need to choose though

it has a bsp-style workflow but it bakes down to real meshes

[deep copper]

i have been reading that as pot and now i feel stupid :/

[signal citrus]

It still uses vis portals

[unreal cedar]

it doesn't have to though - it's not inherent to the workflow itself

I don't care what the engine does under the hood, I only care about how easy it is to edit things.

[verbal junco]

valve are real Gs when it comes to workflows

[signal citrus]

Can see it here

[unreal cedar]

and it's like no one else even wants to try

the unreal mesh tools are a step in the right direction but aside from cubegrid have an entirely different purpose in mind.

[verbal junco]

sad but true. I don't know why people hate good workflows. it's like people just stick with maya and are OK with the insanely obtuse workflows

then again naughty dog uses LISP for scripting so I guess there's an element of masochism present in the industry

[unreal cedar]

it's because most AAAs including epic themselves largely do that work in DCC tools so they just don't have a reason to care about in-editor stuff.

[median wraith]

oh man how the hell you find that posts lol

[verbal junco]

except for the poor LDs 😢

[unreal cedar]

it's what AAA has naturally gravitated towards. Which isn't objectively better as valve has shown, but it's the most common way to work right now.

[median wraith]

also will they ever put the engine public ?

[signal citrus]

I just remember stuff

[unreal cedar]

what, source 2? it'll happen on valve time ™️

as is tradition

[signal citrus]

They don’t usually put the engine source public though

It’s usually just the client and server dll

[unreal cedar]

eh, as public as source 1 modding was

they haven't even done that yet

My guess is that they weren't focused on separating the engine from the game modules like source 1 games were, so it's not as simple for them to release a full SDK.

[median wraith]

Alien Swarm had a lot of sources

but wasn't complete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMjXx-KweIo&ab_channel=KristjanSkutta

[unreal cedar]

alien swarm was source 1 though

[median wraith]

ye

[cursive crypt]

Gatta spend 10 minutes digging deep into complex theories just to find out a disconnected node.

[verbal junco]

do you have a lot of nostalgia for old engines?

[median wraith]

No but is from where I came from

[verbal junco]

here I thought you were born like a regular human bean

[median wraith]

Na I came from far away

from the binary spaces

[verbal junco]

I started with goldsource and worldcraft

those were the times

[median wraith]

I came later in COD4 times

prior to that web editing and such learn

[verbal junco]

COD4 was 2007?

[ocean parcel]

hihi!!

[median wraith]

yes sir

I started in videogames mods etc in 2007

and 2005 in web and things learning with my first computer

came late to the party

[verbal junco]

fair enough

https://www.adeptsoftware.com/jetpack/ this was the first game I got where you could make levels, it was awesome

basically mario maker before its time

[cursive crypt]

WarCraft and then StarCraft-er here. Made campaigns.

No clue which year was that.

[verbal junco]

I did fool around with WC3 when it came out

but I got lost in the sauce

[cursive crypt]

WC2 to me.

Lol, ppl were mad about the 3d.

Me too.

[verbal junco]

I remember people were mad hype about WC2, but I was more about RA1 around that time

even if there was no way to make the cool levels at the time in RA1

no scripting capabilities in the editor that shipped with the game

so you could only make MP levels

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, that was very disappointing. The campaigns rocked. Even my dad enjoyed them.

[verbal junco]

yeah it's still one of my favorite games (from that time)

the basebuilding was so enjoyable

much later I found the real editor where you could actually make singleplayer content

it was pretty awesome

[median wraith]

oh yeah I do remember to make levels before at top down RTS games haha

https://youtu.be/Bg6e5iR50NM?t=34

[left granite]

😋

[verbal junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7hOpT0lPGI

[quasi mantle]

sup

[ocean parcel]

hello there, friend! how are you doing?

[ocean parcel]

Is there a TLDR?

[left granite]

[ocean parcel]

Why is this man saying we should be worried about nuclear war if not the obvious?

[quasi mantle]

Pretty okay, I assume

[ocean parcel]

You see, I fear the mutations.

Who knows what the heck could happen.

[ocean parcel]

You assume you're okay?

[quasi mantle]

I hope so.

[ocean parcel]

I hope so too. :)

[verbal junco]

not really. it's a pretty short video

[ocean parcel]

yeah i'm watching it now xD

[quasi mantle]

Though I do wish I move away again, across cities this time.

[verbal junco]

perhaps it's worth moving to a smaller city with let's say, less than 100k people living there and no worthwhile industry

[quasi mantle]

Nah, I don't care about population or that kind of shit, I just want to reduce obligation to visit "hometown" on longer holidays

[verbal junco]

I was saying that in reference cough

[quasi mantle]

It flew over my head.

[verbal junco]

I'd recommend the video

[quasi mantle]

What?

[verbal junco]

.

[quasi mantle]

Nah, I'm not in the mood for watching that kind of stuff

No thanks, maybe in later time when I absolutely have nothing good to do or no radio drama/audiobook to sleep into.

[left granite]

lol

[ocean parcel]

Maan, a nuclear attack sure sounds bad!

Wow! These things are expensive!

[verbal junco]

the duality of man

[ocean parcel]

LOL I knew someone was gonna screenshot that.

For real though, I ain't paying that just to crush seeds!

[verbal junco]

13 quid is expensive?

[ocean parcel]

I only need to use it once.

[verbal junco]

I recommend the seeds be thrown away and forgotten about

[ocean parcel]

Maybe I'll just get pliers instead.

[ocean parcel]

Hmmmm. 🤔

You're smart.

[verbal junco]

why sit and have anxiety over seeds

when you can have anxiety over nuclear holocaust instead

[ocean parcel]

Well, that's why I need the seeds!

[verbal junco]

anyway it's not likely to happen

[ocean parcel]

I hope not. I heard what happened in Japan.

[verbal junco]

yeah I mean

I think the talk itself explains well why it's an issue for everyone, no matter where you are

but again that's why nobody really would like to do it

you'll freeze to death all the same 😎 perhaps sooner! speedrun any%

[ocean parcel]

Oh yeah, I'm just saying I heard what happened in Japan, it sounded really bad. I don't know if I can describe it on here.

[quasi mantle]

The entire antarctica melt from the nuclear bomb

[oblique cloak]

Sounds weird but i have an idea for my game.. instead of having all the maps modern day maps from the exact time of the games standard time , what if i did maps from different era, like ww2, vietnam, iraq war.. Is this stupid?

[ocean parcel]

Is the Irag war some alien thing. The Iragians.

[oblique cloak]

LOL

[ocean parcel]

Form outer space invade.

[quasi mantle]

Not stupid.

[verbal junco]

is it stupid? no. is it many times more time consuming? probably, yes

[oblique cloak]

typing in darkness my friend xD

[ocean parcel]

Reminds me not really but kind of of TimeSplitters.

[quasi mantle]

But it's easier to do it in linear maps

[oblique cloak]

I got lots of ideas from playing cod waw with old friends, damn this was a amazing game.

[verbal junco]

they're full of iRage, the newest sensation from apple

[ocean parcel]

haha

[ocean parcel]

Oh I love that game! Very spooky though.

[quasi mantle]

The game that came to mind with time travel concept is FF13-2

And that game is a linear JRPG

Also FF8

[oblique cloak]

i just dont like modernday stuff everything is newish...

[verbal junco]

curious. I'm the opposite, ww2 is boring and old

[oblique cloak]

for example leningrad.

bam amazing map

[verbal junco]

but perhaps it's the fact that there's been a million ww2 games and they're all done to death

[oblique cloak]

LOL

hahah

[quasi mantle]

WW2 shooters are getting oversaturated again. Especially after BF5 and COD Vanguard spitting on it

[verbal junco]

😔

[oblique cloak]

depends on how they are done, remember when MOH tried to make a comback?

oh that was rough xD

[verbal junco]

but it's the last time the US had a decisive victory!!!11 we must celebrate it again

by releasing a game

why not go really old school, US independence war

[oblique cloak]

lol

[quasi mantle]

I'd prefer a fictionalised version of past wars.

Early Resistance games come to mind

[ocean parcel]

assassin's creed 3

[oblique cloak]

If the weapons and animations existed for sale and where not 1,000 i would make that game for sure.

[ocean parcel]

I liked that game even if people didn't.

[verbal junco]

you're not really playing as a soldier on the frontline there though

[ocean parcel]

true

I used to play some kind of mod of the american war of indepdence though

I think it was a counter strike mod or something

[quasi mantle]

Resistance 1 had 1950s soldiers fighting against alien force

[ocean parcel]

OH I remember that!

It was an alternate WW2

I think

[verbal junco]

at least that's an interesting spin

[ocean parcel]

I liked how hard that game was, if you died you got sent WAAAAY back, made it actually feel like there was a punishment to dying unlike COD.

[verbal junco]

yes it's very enjoyable to repeat sections you've already completed

[quasi mantle]

Well, it was 2005 game design

[verbal junco]

it's my favorite pastime

[quasi mantle]

Can't get any better than that once COD 4 came out

[verbal junco]

poe's law is gonna bite me in the behind

[ocean parcel]

eh, i just feel like there's no skill with COD.

[verbal junco]

you say that but control released in 2019 and it had the same issues

[ocean parcel]

Oh by the way, while we're speaking of this stuff, did you guys hear Russia invaded Ukraine!?

[verbal junco]

nah

[ocean parcel]

That reminded me of COD MW.

[verbal junco]

totally not why I posted that video about nukes

no relation

[quasi mantle]

It's been going since like 2015

[ocean parcel]

yeah i thought it was a funny coincidence.

[verbal junco]

very funny huh

too conspicuous

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-hide-shy-gif-10738562

[ocean parcel]

I've been thinking about this stuff a lot too

only a couple of days ago i wrote a letter saying about how everything is turning to not good.

[quasi mantle]

Feel Good Inc. no longer operates.

[verbal junco]

tbh the worst part of the invasion is that wheat prices are gonna go up

ukraine supplies something like 13% of the world's wheat

[ocean parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-right-you-know-morgan-freeman-he-is-right-gif-9789067

[verbal junco]

... fair point.

I don't think it's come to that just yet though. unless you'd consider the military on either side innocent

but I may be ignorant

[quasi mantle]

Certified Evil

[verbal junco]

that's what the E stands for, right guys?!

damn I get ninja'd even for puns on my own name

[quasi mantle]

I was a Blueprint Ninja graduate, and I don't get the swag yet

[ocean parcel]

Hey guys hlep me pick.

That one or

That one?

[oblique cloak]

Man, it's got to be scary to live in the Ukraine. I feel awful because of this. watching the videos. Why cant the world just be peaceful 😦

[quasi mantle]

This one

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-pam-beesly-theyre-the-same-picture-the-same-picture-they-are-the-same-picture-gif-20830121

[quasi mantle]

Because it looks like kinder joy in hindsight

[ocean parcel]

kinder joy?

Is that a s$x toy?

[verbal junco]

I believe kind-er is a brand

[quasi mantle]

I wish, but no, it's an overpriced kids cake

[ocean parcel]

It's Porcelain

does that break easily?

[verbal junco]

depends on how you use it

[quasi mantle]

No, porcelains are quite tough

[verbal junco]

if you chuck at a wall then yeah

if you use it to crush seeds it'll be fine

[ocean parcel]

Ahh good thank you :)

I hope my seeds will stay in.

https://tenor.com/view/cadbury-creme-egg-creme-egg-easter-chocolate-food-gif-17706798

https://tenor.com/view/kinder-kinderino-yeah-dude-ferrero-gif-16276448

[verbal junco]

looks like a cheaper version of the kinder surprise

[oblique cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/illusion-train-optical-illusion-change-direction-direction-gif-20945809

[quasi mantle]

And I found it overpriced in my local stores.

At least compared to more substantial cakes

[ocean parcel]

yeah that's true

[verbal junco]

wait... it isn't?

[ocean parcel]

piers morgan always points out that you can't buy a kinder egg but you can buy a gun

tbh i'd rather buy a gun than a kinder egg

[verbal junco]

I'd rather have a kinder egg than a cadbury creme egg

but I'd rather have neither tbh

[quasi mantle]

Also, should I pick Zildjian, or Paiste?

[verbal junco]

I don't know what those are

[ocean parcel]

why

[verbal junco]

because cadbury creme eggs are horrible

[quasi mantle]

Cymbals

[verbal junco]

I don't understand why people would like them

they're way too sweet

[ocean parcel]

I like them I had some the other day

[verbal junco]

bordering on indian levels of sweets

actually you know what's a good chocolate egg? reese's

[verbal junco]

I don't know anything about cymbals. but perhaps worth doing a review search to see which ones give better sound?

[ocean parcel]

man, pliers are expensive....

[quasi mantle]

Both are equally good IMO, but it seems like most jazz drummers use Zildjian's more than Paiste's

[ocean parcel]

Hey do you guys think these pliers would be good for crushing seeds?

'Steel 5" FLAT NOSE PLIERS General Multi Purpose Jewellery Making Bead Findings'

[oblique cloak]

ur weird.