#lounge
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yeah I get people trying to add me for DMs or ping me in the channels unprompted
and I'm not about enabling either behavior
i guess that's why you guys have lasted so long in this
setting the perfect distance
i am admire anyone that can even try to help in every channel
the only reason i dislike DMs is that others can't read and learn from it
and sadly it's mostly #blueprint or #ue4-general beginners that start a DM convo
in some circles yt = why-t = white
i dislike it because they follow up there and ask more
yea right, that too
it's never ending, you practically build the full thing
yeah it's about teaching people to fish or giving them fish
they come back after a month "hey bro... need help"
don't enable bad behavior or it'll come back to bite you
yes no!
I'm a "no" first kinda person
well not like i help anyone rn so lol
there are people looking for entertainers here?
well I've gotten job offers that way too even with needing to be frands first
everyone has a way of no here i guess, CE is just straight up no, tank can block or ignore after that, ponkiss deters it naturally
it's very inclusive
what kind of job offers ? "we pay you after it's released" type or "we hire you with payment" or "free"?
discord will reprimand you for trying to click on a blocked reply as well
yeah blocking isn't as bad here
"we will pay you cash money every month in perpetuity"
ah yes, the princes
I just blocked Strivvy and some man with naked picture
that's neat
I mean I already have a job
pro tip: block all the orange guys
not red?
almost too nice
and they won't dm to ask for help usually i think
but they could have jobs
to offer
yeah
some of them are friends of friends so I do try not to piss them off π
the industry is a small place
well not like they have any bad attitude either
no but I do 
i don't think they would get mad at you either, i mean, most of them should have seen you loosing brain cells in #blueprint
just look, even your pfp is sad
The real CE is at #level-design
I mean that's what I do π
just that people don't usually ask me questions about that
Audio, level design and physics has single persons answering almost all the questions
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you did say you loved level design, atleast you are, spreading the love for it
if they didn't, the channel wouldn't exist i think
Animation still exists π€·ββοΈ
if it did, it would mostly be a place to vent
i wonder if #editor-scripting is just that
#level-design wouldn't be dead, it'd be full of people asking #graphics questions
π
hurr durr how material apply
ah, the amount of misled people
people don't like that
the unofficial redirecting mod CE
more like the official pointer
haha
which is weird, considering people are supposedly seeking information. They dont like to be told anything other than what they want to hear. π
CE: wrong channel strike
I dont think he would use strikes that much but some natural selection would happen for sure around the channels π
such confirmation bias
at least people would catch on fast
not like they appear here enough to get all 3 strikes
...unless it's one question in all channels
I wouldn't dare police #cpp in either case
I consider it a technocracy worthy of its own governing body
poliCE
I mean they're not wrong
but again I don't think #cpp is the channel that really needs policing
me in lounge only familiar with Luos - Yoeri Vleer or Kaos taking out nitro scams
anything really wrong would get murdered before the mods reach it
aww how sweet
i am going off
hi guys
ah, you're canadian?
what are they
i just realised valentines day is in 3 days
ooooooooooowwwwwwwoooooooooo
i hope you all have plans and are socially well adjusted, unlike me. π
rather consumerism than isolationsim. π
isn't the 13 for the dude with a chainsaw ?
are you canadian
Hello all, quick questions about discord here, this is my first discord account so I am getting used to the layout. I have used slack before so there are some similarities.
How do I actually turn on spellcheck? All I get is a line underneath the incorrect word but when I go to see the suggestions, there are none. Does discord only show you that there is a mistake and doesn't suggest a correction? (I mainly use slack and this is my first discord)
i wanted to get it from the mounted horses mouth though.
I dont think Discord has a feature like that
ah
I see, so it just lets you know there is a misspelled word?
Yeah, but does not provide any suggestions
How so?
I look at suggestions and it only has a listing for stickers lol
same
you don't watch spongebob!??!?!!??!!!??!?!?
it's what a sponge does when you put it in water.
It is the spelling suggestions, duh!
I just thought it was someone with jaundice
who is?! π
I think Tank blocked Spongebob
But I dunno because I'm blind rn
Who is this spongebob?
oh it's some sort of anime
He sounds like a pretty cool guy
π€£
Actually I agree
Kinda
You have to be in the mood to watch Spongebob
I like to poke fun with spongebob because it is so bad
I couldn't get into OnePiece
Maybe because dubs?
I don't really understand the target audience for OnePiece
It seems like it is targeted towards a younger audience, but it uses pretty strong language IRC
At least with the dubs
isn't it for people who are afraid of letting go? since it never ends π
I dunno. I've seen MAYBE 2 episodes
I've never actually watched it
I read the synopsis and thought it offensive for my mental health
but then that's most animes
How about Bleach?
is it play to earn?
I watched a few seasons that were good
But hit a wall with filler fest
Weren't they seasons?
Maybe "Story arc" is a better term?
The first story arc was good, but then it got anime stilly
My sword is bigger than your sword! I will train for days so I can cut your sword in half with my new powers!
sounds like dagronballs
I think the animes I've watched that I've enjoyed have mostly been ghibli movies or single season things
I started watching it last night
although kuroko's basketball was baller
Well yeah, Ghibli films are the gold standard
I don't want to say I enjoyed every ghibli movie though
You capture the essence of Ghibli and you print money
But even they have been faltering lately since the director is older
I meant is it crypto based
fair enough
anyway everyone should watch kuroko's basketball
Do I dare click?
woah, spoiler alert
The Netflix live action Cowboy Bebop was so disappointing
I was so excited b/c the original was so good
That was great too
i didn't know the original, so the netflix thing was kinda entertaining
I think the casting was off
The characters didn't quite have the same punch as the anime
I don't know about that, but it was Avatar the Last Airbender live action bad
I haven't watched any DragonBall
same
They reveal the entire cowboy bebop plot in the first episode
it seems pointless to me
Of the live action
as in, dragon ball
I didn't grow up with anime
well except moomins
that stuff scarred me for life
I remember something named Bakugan from my childhood
I didn't really get to watch anime until I was an adult
It was video games and Magic: The Gathering for me
I used to play a lot of mtg as well
good times until they decided to go dragonball with it
Yeah great times
Until the power creep
And it became obvious whoever spent stupid amounts of money would win
really killed the game
Rather than the most clever decks
yep
still, ravnica is a place I hold dear. one of the best created virtual cities IMO
crying out for a thief style game
Evening, chat.
Oh yeah, so much of the magic lore was killer
maybe I should see riot and ask them if they are interested in a thief style game in their world π€
I love the world building Riot builds
But I can't stand the company or the toxicity of their community
I had my account hacked b/c of their shitty security
Then they wanted me to PAY to change the name that was chosen by the Russian hacker
I think it was a russian hacker
don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of anything they've done really, but I did like the world they were building in the first episode of their netflix series
the characters were super average though
Groke was so fucking scary as a kid :(
literal nightmares
Taistelevat Muumit was the best
Sadly it seems there's no videos about that on YT :D
Basically it was a really bad moomin fighting game lol
It was the 90s, so why not
I guess
actually i have exactly that bug in UE5 right now nvm, my build from today fixed it
where depth check in previews acts like this
Can anybody help me find the right person that can get me to Epic's higher ups of a issue i have?
Your best option is to catch some Epic staff around cpp, niagara, datasmith, eos channels but they are acting as community members not Epic representative
forget epic's higher ups, just call the US president immediately
obviously it can't wait
Better than nothing π
I wonder what the issue is π€
if they had licensing issues they'd have a direct line to a license manager I'm sure
if they would care about licenses their yt account wouldn't be canceled because of IP violation π
...mit licencing issues?
yeah wasn't sure if using crusade was insensitive
thank you
are people gonna ban you for mentioning the crusades now?
Oh I dunno
I've been in trouble for much less
Someone had to go see the higher ups because I hurt their sensibilities!
IRL
GPL
do they train you to see the world through other people's point of view and encourage you to consider that; therefore making you offend less people accidently?
no that's too much effort
lol obviously
I thought that was COBOL these days
they keep you in the closet with the old mainfraime... neither of you are allowed to die or quit
This is what I've been doing wrong
lol in all seriousness there's apparently a demand for COBOL programmers to maintain old bank stuff
ikr
Yeah I've heard you can make bank with COBOL
apparently we're as old as COBOL just by knowing it exists
I don't know COBOL, but my parents knew it at one point
you had me panicking for a second
I'd hope so... that's getting into actually old territory
but, same
Did you study punch cards?
I had to learn COBOL in HS for an independent research thing with prime numbers.... needed really big ints (It was ancient already by then)
.... maybe I need to study punch cards
I've heard stories of poor college kids dropping their punch cards on the due date of their project
lol what in the early 80s
"the dog ate my punchcard"
Yeah I dunno. Before my time. Just stories from my parents.
dog... cosmic-ray... memory errors, am I right?
lol
just call the dog a random number generator
Squirrel!
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wait wait what I just see, are you giving hearts to others when I'm not present here ?!
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nooooooooo
now that you post that
π¬
man I wish he retweet it the next day lol
I mean is the account from the actor π€·π»ββοΈ
im glad the english and the dutch stopped the french and spain from world domination π
that would have sucked
let me explain the joke because is kind of complex
Sam Valentin cuz is the day 14 is kinda equal to San Valentin
Sam - va - lentin
Sam - goes/walks- slow
because in the film always go after frodo
this joke is horrible
π
I still dont get it. But then again, you are very small
very small?
good thing i laugh at my own jokes
coughsthatswhatshesaid
there are more native spanish speakers than english actually
the only culture I've got is bacteria
their food makes my butt hurt
english is often a 2nd tho
there are more spanish speaking english than english speaking spanish
Nice chart, they spelled japanese wrong
that 14 most spoken languages chart I mean... it actually says "japanese person" :P
199 juta, lumayan.
I saw you question but forgot to reply, didn't mean to ignore it π
The thing I fixed was for some property pins not copying/assigning the value correctly
If you had an FTransform pin on some nodes and you connect something to one of its sub pins (Location, Rotation), it wouldn't copy/update the value, it stored the property path like it is accessing an array instead of a struct property
Considering Indonesia's population is around 250 million, not that surprised the numbers were high enough to made it into the chart.
have no idea where they speak bengali or how it sounds π
JUST IN - Americans in #Ukraine should leave the country "in the next 24-48 hours," the White House says.
1202
3889
This is it
happy end of the world day
bah, we need a meteor
i speak a lil russian so ill be a fine collaborator
Call of Duty: World War 3
with all the lotr stuff I thought another one of the cast had died
naw, gotta get the humans too!
...that chart doesn't have a date on it (though is obvously old) and doesn't normalize for time.
you know when they said that when humanity gets a common enemy there will be peace on earth
boy were they wrong! π
pretty sure I saw the chart mid last year, so yeah the numbers are a little off
A little off? Doesn't it say that the death toll is only 4.7k?
That's orders of magnitude off
at least that attempts to quantify how long they lasted but man that thing is horrible to read
thats the worst chart i ever seen
yeah that's absolutely horrible
sad chart is sad
whats it called, a starwars scrolling text chart?
Also... we're in the middle of a pandemic so it's hard to compare against previous occurrences when we don't know how much longer this will go on. It's why you compare transmissibility and death rates rather than exact numbers.
Why can't it be both?
err, not a hoax but also people exploiting it
well, I guess that's what you're saying
there's always going to be someone trying to take advantage of a bad situation. Those bad actors existing isn't proof that something is a hoax
nah there hasn't been enough insanity there yet
I haven't had to repeat myself 5 times
I am hungry though. Maybe I should eat something before trying to get into politics
wow, googling for a "distraction" gif certainly gives some interesting results. ||https://i.imgur.com/7BIoYTz.gif||
When the only way to explain a country is a meme
π
the trump era was sort of the cherry on top
well it's easy if you stop funding education because nobody will be smart enough to question you
Thats what happened in here lmao
says the person with free hong kong in their personal bio
because it's more money for the right wing, and the right wing believes that money == power
the left in the US is still very right wing
it's not so much left and right as it is right wing and right wingest
that would imply they are right, but we know they aren't

anyway all of this is pretty standard. we're in the last 50 or so years before the collapse of the US empire
so we're bound to see some wacky stuff
It's getting really hard to make a long lasting Empire. May have something to do with a lack of emperors.
republican and democrat are 2 words i hear really often and i never bothered to look up what they really mean
the emperors are there, but they know better than to become public officials 
like i dont care at all
you can't be an emperor if you're not a public official
one likes killing babies and the other likes guns
says who? I'm pretty sure the emperor of anything can do anything they want 
except head a democracy
actually that's untrue
it describes a despot, not an emperor
I dunno, I think if either elected official is open to being paid by the highest bidder the whole democracy thing doesn't seem like a massive obstacle?
you'd just have to legalize bribery and give it a fancy name
maybe something like... lobbyism?
initial examples of democracy limited the 'people' to landowners and self-declared citizens
be proud, you've started a movement π
so arguably, a 'democracy' could be ruled by a group of people whose democratic function is to pay off their rulers... maybe?
sounds a lot like what corporations do when they answer to a board
someone should do a cartoon with a corporation that literally has a ouija board as their board
By popular demand, and just in time for Halloween, it's another Yahoo! Answers video. Twitch is finally ready for action, video with full details to come later today or tomorrow.
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lol that vid
A sample of the vast selection of totally useful and not at all pointless how-to guides that can be found on WikiHow.
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I thought wikipedia was interesting because it was, conceptually, a form of government where the rulers are those who do the most work. Ironically there isn't a term for that. Could call it a wikiocracy.
this channel is gold
a technocracy?
robocracy?
contribucracy?
effortocracy?
only if it's pronounced effort-o-cracy
Toys-o-cracy
Hotpotatocracy: Government by individuals least able to avoid being put in a leadership position.
So it is controlled by the org that can afford to hire the most writers to write history they want it?
pronounced "hotpotat-o-cracy"
there's power struggles on every pages afaik
and yet, like a fool, I've now donated to wikipedia twice
π
sad
I like to refer to Wikipedia for info much more than stack overflow or other sources.
I know the church cult I grew up in pays people to scrub Wikipedia
neil degrasse tyson changed his stance on religion from "atheist" to "agnostic" and the people moderating the page changed it back π
LDS?
Wow you guessed that fast
LSD?
it's probably the most common one lol
Ha I wish
yeah I mean
there's only so many well known places like that
it's either that or the church that pickets funerals
that I can't remember the name of
does scientology have religious status though?
welp
I like being agnostic
So you're not convinced Unity exists?
It is difficult to define when a blueprint becomes spaghetti versus when it is not, but I know spaghetti when I see it.
Can't choose the belief structure you are born into. At least I don't think you get to.
yeah but this spaghet is of our own creation
Could you imagine facing the character creator for your own birth?
a crude effigy of a lost god
Teeth: crooked
!%*@##&(
Why do all the faces look constipated?!
question is, what age does the character creator show, or does it have to show your whole lifetime in 4D?
well if you eat the spaghet it becomes part of you
Does it reflect that horrific accident you had as a teenager?
someone completed dark souls using only one button
I dunno, any decent red? maybe italian?
bathe in lumen
this is where my "constipated faces" comment comes from: https://youtu.be/v4O9rMQ-TlU?t=118
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spaghet is our body, C++ is our blood
i mean, they're the ones making more spaghet
does that mean that #cpp will host dionysian parties?
does it then become udon π€
but when it flattens it becomes linguine
oops, I picked the wrong country
unless we go by the idea that spaghet has different names in different countries
this is the way. I shall retire like this
mmmmm ramen
bukkake udon? 
nagashi somen might be fun to try because of the weird way they serve that
looks interesting
I'm generally a fan of noodles so I'd try it
controversial opinion: non fried noodles are better than fried noodles
elaborate
which noodles must be fried
What do you guys do when you are not working
Other than watching animes
I'm bored af
Charity work and international espionage
Second one looks fun
arguing on discord
Something inside of me tempting me to try Dark Souls challenge
surely a relaxing experience
I've been doing some dirt rally 2, it also serves as exercise lol
at least when you have an expensive wheel that has enough strength to hurt you
lol
I have also been watching a lot of really, really bad movies lately
those are fun if you have some friends to laugh at them with you
we watched some german extremely low budget film called Violent Shit the other night... that was an experience
we also watched this movie called Terminator 2
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098321/
Terminator II: Directed by Bruno Mattei. With Christopher Ahrens, Haven Tyler, Geretta Geretta, Fausto Lombardi. In a polluted future Venice researchers work to improve the situation. One day, unknown forces start killing them. A team of soldiers and a couple of civilians is sent to investigate. Soon, they encounter strange murderous creatures.
I'm never buying Gigabyte mobo again π¨
What did they do now
Sometimes it can't wake up the monitor and/or keyboard. This time it even auto-reset its BIOS.
I've had the former change from windows updates, but the latter is ominous.
I was having an issue similar to this due to a bad NVidia driver
Computer wouldn't wake from sleep
But after updating that problem went away
Not the BIOS thing though. That sounds terrifying
Aah, yea, windows update - another enemy. Yes, I think it was yesterday it didn't woke up after MS batch of fresh fixes.
Gladly, they auto-disable that after failure.
The auto update thing is so BS
yep, I'm also on AMD card and it is the latest. Can't say how much it is related π€·ββοΈ
Ah, yeah, I can add also and missing features supporting some CPU functionalities - at least their support was honest and told me "never we will add these".
Yeah I run a few different windows boxes and didn't want to buy pro for all of them
I'm still running 1608
Happy man π
how's your omi?
enjoy these 2 days brother !
what exactly is that? on the back of that truck, chicken like
Headcrab
facehugger
#ahs #americanhorrorstories #ryanmurphy #bradfalchuk #fx
yeah
@brisk ether the music isnt correct the music video is from 2 unlimited
Byte Records
Listen, like and love this song on Spotify
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Kinda annoying to see street lamps still on during the day.
good song
Nice
It's a shame that I never actually bought battle pass lol
The sun is a bit south you know.
I think, extremes should be more rare.
After few months of snow and ice, something warmer is really welcome.
So, you must be on my south. We got some sun last 2-3 days.
we've had a warm spell, very unseasonable. Then of course it dipped below zero the day I had to go out
wow
what part of the globe you on again?
You can see ponkkis freezing on his pic.
this pic?
North EU is kinda late in many seasonal things.
normally this is the coldest month, -10 to -30c averages. We were above zero all week
Ooh... interesting.
Freezing to death sounds so... unpleasant
Colder than here. Feb it starts to get warmer, but there are sudden drops.
and then like I said, cold the one day I go out. hands were freezing by the end of the day
and the wind or something knocked two trees down on my sis's farm road, broinlaw had to go and buy a chainsaw
What trees? Last time a friend got to fix such case, they were 6 people working from the morning to late night.
That for one tree.
were they giant trees or something? these were only a foot/foot and a half thick. With a new chainsaw chain, it only took about 20min to clear the road
Ah, they totally recycled the tree. I mean, heaters and so. Plus wild honey, heard it was god's food.
ah, we just cut it into small enough chunks to move. Later we'll cut it into firewood
The tree was old willow btw.
These kinda grow huge and the get empty from inside. Weird.
So, they just break and fall like that.
yah thats a bit tougher to cut down
rip π« π³
did ponkis gnome always had glasses?
trailer for a new Noggin video greeting ' Gnome your friends'
Okay I'm done
Put HL2E2 gnome somewhere.
Plot Twist: this was made in Gmod
But it will take some time to render :(((
that's an adorable gnome
Someone in Discord linked to this tweet and I figured I'd take a stab at singing it in my totally not awful fake accent: https://twitter.com/bhilburn/status/971019559095427075/photo/1
Download:
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This is high quality trolling. It must be banned.
that singer is pretty decent
"Hey Ron, can we crosspost this to #cpp?"
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it's the same game?
"VAT reference - 4,000 Adams at 90 Frames Per Second"
How many Manny performance have this ?
!8ball How many Manny performance have this ?
@deep copper, :8ball: Most likely.
haha that was an unexpected change lol
i guess i can say, did you always have a wolf/dog hanging on you?
..does it bite?
the music video in ur video is not from the song in the video π
the forbidden foootage
ponki feels a lot warmer now
fake internet points yay
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Could be a 4chan user.
"was born at a very young age"
oh man the marketplace blueprints
why would you ever go there
4 joy
that face lol
yes, it's awesome
roof
@verbal junco wrong
well CE is above me here
up is the opposite of down.
now it's sky of japan
I think it was more to make a point
Just cause at that point the person prob felt useless in the sense that they couldnβt do anything
most probably
Hi, Everyone.
hi
Are you working on a game?
no
π
Just started watching Demon Slayer anime season 2.
is it to your liking so far?
that's nice, have fun
CE the red cat of death
@quasi mantle are your pronouns she/her or he/him?
hey guys, is there any channel in this server where i can self promote my music ? fit for video games
The released channel maybe?
i saw someone blocking this type of music post
maybe you can use your music into Unreal projects and then post here
like a interactive MIDI device for making jams!
so noobs do not need to bother on how to compose counterpoint!!
and make music!!!
YOU CANT RESPOND TO YOURSELF
I'm doing a floorplan of the barn conversion I'll be doing this summer
I JUST DID!!!!
got me there
I'M DADDY NOW.
Hi daddy
stop pressuring me! cries
Lounge on steroids again
I have such a vision for my next project I'm so happy. I haven't had a vision for a game in a very long time. The best part is not some grandiose vision like Star wars. It's just a incremental improvement with all the features I want that would be fun on classic video games
π
write it down!
I never write down enough of the idea and I forget it 2hrs into development
I get bored after a week of dev
is a keyboard with anti ghost important for games? all my life and I never noticed that for FPS such as quake, a lot of the time you are pressing right + up + jump and that's already 3 keys and most keyboards fail when the 4th key is pressed
It was more important with older games when both hands were on the keyboard and you could be pressing directional keys and several combos at once. Or games where two players would control a character from each side of the keyboard.
Now controllers are popular and mice with extra buttons are commonplace, there's a lot less necessity for it, but occasionally there might be a badly built keyboard where Ctrl+Shift+Alt+X is broken.
I'm not sure Quake's even demanding in that respect. Whereas I remember in HL2 deathmatch you would crouch, jump, sprint, and mash the switch weapon key all at the same time while moving. That was the most extreme case I remember.
That's also a thing to think about. Many keyboards will expect you to use certain key combinations, and plan the ghostable maps around it, so using WADS and the option keys is safe, but if you're on a non-standard config like ESDF you can still easily run into ghosting.
i had a mouse that would freak out if i held 5 buttons down at a time
I am.
No...
You're not my son.
the BP still has compile errors
So I'm not Luke Skywalker then
Ah, a toy story reference! xD
True story, everyone expected the actual Spanish Inquisition. They sent you a notice like a month in advance.
is true that i should use Event Tick for all my BP logic?
i mean, fire a custom event with Tick and then use the signal to update my functions
is not 0.02 better because it is a square number and it is more efficiently?
but i read on docs that textures should follow this standardβ¦
kekeke
i wish i was an expert to elaborate a better joke
there is a better way to get a loop from tick divided or i should use custom timers every-time for this thing
noted 
and a ground Node for lightning protection
i hear you can create a empty event for that
starting the name with 0 or alphabets first letters are better captured, right?
you read as not understanding a bit of Blueprints logic
have you took a look at engine source?
or are you these trolls that use Unity with Macbooks and troll c++ people on lounge?
lol
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there is no more reactions to comments here?
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hmm, apparently i can not react to comments of Tuesday Tank
ahh fair enough
π i have enemies
!8ball are you too?
@zinc matrix, :8ball: Most likely.
i used to play as anti-tank on battlefield 1942
just be careful here and you be fine
i highly doubt about
tanks usually have more wheels than normal vehicles, so from start you are in advantage
and they are good cages for not sending bluetooth signals to other people parked near by
just idleβ¦
imagine playing games at all
imagine imagining
apparently there's an amazon tribe whose language is structured in such way that they have no words for things that are not visible
not being visible for them is the same as not existing
I don't get the joke
that pretty revolutionary regarding religious and spiritual beliefs
I'd say regressive but potato tomato
why?
imagine playing peekaboo
is not a great deal of war on humans history for beliefs in sobre natural stuff?
i personally think it is a shame we do not adhere much stuff of american indians
45 million killed on the whole America
what's that got to do with the amazon π€
amazon is on america, right?
and one of the few places that hold tribes that had no contact with civilization
or significant ones
american indians is usually used as a term for north america
but generally none of them are indians
so it's a misnomer all the same
or first nations
for me America is a continent that hold Central, North and South
idk why north americans wanted to create miles, inches, feet and america
might actually be pre colombian
Couldn't you say most of europe has no words for things that are asexual?
yeah, i was being more specific about a region
???
Romance languages.
yes, what about romance languages?
german?
I still don't understand the premise we're discussing
something about european languages aren't asexual?
Languages structured in such a way that every noun is gendered could, from a perspective of ignorance, mean that they have no words for things that are asexual.
is hindi gendered?
I have no idea.
because most of the european language roots come directly from sanskrit
welp
I was right the first time around
so sanskrit has genders
Point is that amazonian language may not be revolutionary or regressive, if the trait no more defining than the gendering in a romance language.
so it probably just took off on the back of those
but it was about language grammar?
i though it was a concept of no discussing invisible things, rather than naming them
it's regressive because of having no past or future, not because you have gendered language or not π
there is a fundamental gap in cognition at that point
as in, object permanence doesn't exist for them
Seems implausible to me. Smash someone's thumb, then ask them why they're angry.
that's something that babies don't understand, but come to understand over time as they develop
so yeah I do think that's regressive
yeah the "asexual" part of that threw me off
but would be nice not having gender defined words in a language
It doesn't necessarily impair cognition to lack a neutral gender pronoun, though.
idk if that would help prejudice with related stuff
you mean like english? 
I vaguely recall there being a fungus with 11 sexes. (Not genders. I can only imagine how complicated that would get.)
oh i was not clear, my mind was into a universal language that everyone speaks
no but lack of object permanence would certain be attributed to a lack of cognition
Lack of need to express object permanence in language is different from lacking it in cognition.
language evolves around thought, not the other way around
if a language isolate suggests lack of object permanence it's probably because the people lack object permanence
or they would have expressed it
but how about the indians in question? they do not talk about invisible things!!!
for them anything that's not visible doesn't exist
did not they encountered other cultures that talked about invisible things?
they kept their philosophy over these encounters?
That reminds me of the idea that a language with more words for a particular thing means that thing is important to that culture. E.g. the (apparent myth) that "eskimos" have many words for snow.
if so, feels like a good example to be
So fundamentally I would approach with caution any idea that a language having certain traits leads to sweeping statements about cognition.
you're conflating things
someone can link the information here?
you can't readily compare something as multiple words for the same thing to an entire concept that babies lack
because if they decided to not talk about invisible things as a cognitive conclusion, CE is deadly wrong
it's not a decision lmao
It would be good to know more about how the language works, because CE has stated it's related to invisible things, then about temporality (present/past tense) and now about object permanence.
actually lack of cognition is a very broad idea
I said that their language does not possess object permanence. which is basically understanding that objects exist beyond the current visible area that the speaker is currently looking at
it's why you can play peekaboo with babies
because they don't understand object permanence yet
the mental action or process of acquiring knowledge and understanding through thought, experience, and the senses.
so a baby actually has cognition to play perkaboo
just it does not do right
or the way you want
the baby doesn't know what peekaboo is
the baby is having fun because something phases in and out of existence
it's not like you're asking the baby "would you like to play a round of peekaboo?"
does it disqualify it as enjoying it cognitively?
no but you're fundamentally misunderstanding the concept
i think we are just disagreeing
nah
plus right and wrong on subjective experiences are very hard to conclude
object permanence is a concept, and that concept exists whether you have knowledge of it or not
this has nothing to do with the current subject
But does a concept really exist?
yes
so why are you saying their are regressive as a language by denying discussion of not able to sense things?
indians and their culture are way back ourselves in 2022
This conclusion doesn't seem right to me. Language evolves at a much faster rate than human evolution which suggest that language is not directly linked to cognitive abilities because otherwise it would change at similar rates
and no mater you like science, there is no right and wrong about how a group of people lives in this context
because their language (at least, if not the people speaking the language) lack a fundamental part of cognition that we only otherwise see in babies, and that babies learn over time
English has no word for gezelligheid (a Dutch word comparable but different from cosy or fun) does that mean only the dutch experience gezelligheid?
yes
No ofcourse not, it's just that dutch appersntly evolved to easily describe that
If a person was never taught the words to describe object permanence, they would still have it.
but again, this is on a different level to trying to describe a feeling or what have you
They still know a box is behind the curtain if you put a curtain in front of the box
Counterpoint: Any exclusive english-speaker cannot experience gezelligheid while attempting to pronounce "gezelligheid".
probably
Ayahuasca is the greatest revenge on foreign people ever lmao
jus temporarily, that is why they are revolutionary
Come to our shaman to feel terrible for 4 days and puke your stomach out
Bet you'll feel enriched after that
we were never discussing right or wrong. the tribe exists, they live their lives. their language being regressive has no bearing on this. you're again conflating things that have no relevance to the discussion
If someone is never taught any language they would still possess object permance though
you typed they lack cognition because they decided to not talk about invisible things
for me that is a ballpark of stoicism that i never saw in a culture
yes. doesn't mean they can't survive.
but i never studied it much
it has nothing to do with stoicism lmao
like you still think this is a "philosophy"
oh yeah? so try to not discuss about religion till you die
Correct. This is parapsychology.
I'm just gonna block you, nothing you say makes sense
i am cognitive imparted
RIP. I have become that personβ’οΈ
Explain to me how they've evolved their language around it π
Bees have object permanence and communicate it.
Which is pretty impressive considering how bees seem entirely unthinking.
insectoid brain is a interesting feat regarding number of functions and size of neural network
You should watch this documentary
Bee movie
like arm vs x86
Object impermanence would be nice so I can forget Bee Movie.
I dunno, I don't think bees are not being cognitive in some sense. I think most animals are being driven by instinct, sure, but does this prevent them from thinking? are bees inherently fatalistic?
I mean bees even have language
I think it was another one, I can't entirely remember it. the one I've been looking at is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PirahΓ£_people
but I may be wrong
as in, it may not be that tribe
"None of this implies that such mappings are beyond the cognitive capacities of the people," Professor Sinha explained. "It's just that it doesn't happen in everyday life."
"and they lost interest in Jesus when they discovered that Everett had never seen him. "
That feels like a burn.
"I accept no second-hand apostles!"
joke's on you, I'm already at peak levels π
Now you get the Amondawa, who can't describe time in the abstract, to explain to the Piraha, who don't care about anything that can't be presently experienced, why you'd need a time machine to see Jesus.
actually doctors conclusions on ancient tribes that exist nowadays are very fatalistic
Good luck setting a date for them to meet
it is like removing the right of some indias thinking that octaves intervals are totally different notes
idk why you study culture to compare with yours
maybe they do not have too much fantastic stuff to show or suggest to scientific research as not using time in their language
as it is darn interesting how indias produce ayuasca, a drug from 2 different plants that should be cooked for some hours to get the active principles of the drug
not even mentioning possible medicine from other plants
The difference between chefs and alchemists is how often their experiments kill you.
and they live on a region that has the most diversity in whole Earth
but it is already cooked all recipes, they can not compete with science
so the sushi chef who prepared 4 poisonous fish livers for a famous patron who requested it was actually an alchemist?
Actually I give up. Chefs will cook just about anything. So will alchemists.
but i think we can cut some paths on considering their empirical knowledge
Alchemists want to create gold.
Chefs will settle for what's in your pocket.
I'm pretty sure alchemists were trying to make gold
We haven't cooked everything.
till we categorize and analyze all empirical knowledge lying out there
Plus we can always breed new varieties of plants and animals to make new recipes with.
there is a problem on rural places here in brazil about young people not being interested in tradition cultural things
i wonder how much small stuff we would to reinvent or research extensively to get at the same level
edible gold sucks. I watched a few videos on "the most expensive <food>" and pretty much all of them were expensive because they had edible gold on them. f that
(not saying they didn't have some things that merited a higher price, but the edible gold just put it over the top for no reason)
That might be a sad case of what happens when you murder a generation and then there's a gap where the youngest generation doesn't get raised with the culture of their parents.
i mean regarding plant knowledge, which for some conclusions of them, some stuff are probably outdated, placebo etc. but still, on indians? there are thousands of years of them living and experimenting⦠culture wise, they are very rude and primitive
like, choosing your wife at young age
wtf
or having to go alone in the jungle to suffer because you are now a teenager
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Love is a notoriously bad predictor of future relationship success, though.
you are a tank kid!
normal humans with lights hand modeling on blender would suffer on eating psychodelics frogs and dancing naked on rivers
We have you trained you to survive in the jungle your entire life kid, and now you will actually use all of those skills! Why are you crying. Did you think this was for a reality TV show?
wasn't that every rite of passage of yore
And sometimes criminal charges.
ugh! are you still stuck with non trustable toxic people?
i heard there is good girls on lounge hanging out
And of course we strategically don't prepare our kids for that, because learning to cope with the fallout of unexpected trauma is the real learning.
I think in europe it's more common to go traveling around the world once you hit that age and finish high school
whats the talk here today?
π€£
I read some of love, relationships. and legal papers
lot of things going on here, even people ordering online
a new film of rambo
Times change man so idk all I read here is kind of random
almost as if it's a channel for random ramblings of insular people
I just unfollowed 5 dudes on instagram cuz they converted to the nf*
you know as a study said the reason because you are single is because you don't sell nf*
and maybe is true since all these are married or have gf.
nf* corn is the next step I think
what is nf*?
lmao why
Our San Valentine too
No Fu Today's
but like why can't you say NFTs?
cuz the FBY
the facebook yahoo?
what
today i went invisible on godot off topic because i showed my tongue with a photo
rich kids have to invest their moneys on something afterall
they banned me
i heard that discord will fall into a better society
with decentralized groups of people first filtered by giant servers
You sure about that?
Not discord, we have to deal with tiktok first
i never took my lucky there
and then discord
and then IRC
We have to deal the people who are MENACE TO THE HUMAN CIVILIZATION
yeah!
violent game developers go first into the thin line
and then
this little pricks here
eating all the grass of the world in a silent domination
by domestication of its owners
Those DEGENERATES! They belong to the Cross!